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| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social | Jun 13 03:06 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:19:56 2010 | Jun 13 03:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/76081666 | Jun 13 08:49 |
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| TechrightsBot | @oposit (oposit)'s status on Sunday, 12-Jun-11 17:13:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @oceanwatcher @schestowitz Also you can click on adrees bar to type sftp://user@www.domain.com ... | Jun 13 08:49 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/76081763 | Jun 13 08:49 |
| TechrightsBot | @oposit (oposit)'s status on Sunday, 12-Jun-11 17:15:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @oceanwatcher ... and right click after a succesfull connection to add that address to dolphin places | Jun 13 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Thanks to the help of #KDE folks, I've migrated the last bits I depended on Konqueror for. Dolphin does it better. | Jun 13 08:50 |
| schestowitz | ;: | Jun 13 08:50 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/76137439 https://identi.ca/notice/76137547 | Jun 13 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot | @Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Monday, 13-Jun-11 08:31:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Special place you should visit: http://is.gd/euPHWr Think you would find the discussion interesting, if a touch paranoid. | Jun 13 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: Gypsies, tramps & thieves | Project PM .::. Size~: 23.65 KB | Jun 13 09:55 |
| TechrightsBot | @Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Monday, 13-Jun-11 08:32:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Gack. Police Verso FDE | Jun 13 09:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.echelon2.org/threads/gypsies-tramps-thieves.17/ "PS: You also should talk to Dr. Roy over at Techrights about this as well. He has some of the same information, but a different search engine attached to it. | Jun 13 09:56 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Gypsies, tramps & thieves | Project PM .::. Size~: 23.73 KB | Jun 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | Nice one.. | Jun 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EvolvingCitizen/status/80183639706574848 | Jun 13 09:57 |
| TechrightsBot | @EvolvingCitizen: @schestowitz Dear Roy @CommoningSchool invites u 2 our upcoming workshop #SpanishRevolution, and the Commons Here and Now @: on.fb.me/kpgP1w | Jun 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | #SpanishRevolution,? | Jun 13 09:57 |
| schestowitz | "is there a non-Facebook page for it? I find Facebook objectionable as dangerous as a platform." | Jun 13 09:58 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/76139415 | Jun 13 10:08 |
| TechrightsBot | @Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Monday, 13-Jun-11 08:59:43 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And for my next trick :) | Jun 13 10:09 |
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| MinceR | nobody expects the #SpanishRevolution! | Jun 13 14:08 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: ಠ_ಠ | Jun 13 17:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/brettglass/status/80288452180062209 | Jun 13 17:49 |
| TechrightsBot | @brettglass: @schestowitz Ad hominem means "to the man" - a personal attack. Exactly what you are doing when you claim ISPs are rich and evil. | Jun 13 17:49 |
| schestowitz | I never said that | Jun 13 17:49 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/brettglass/status/80290563311669248 | Jun 13 17:50 |
| TechrightsBot | @brettglass: @schestowitz If insulting and vilifying ISPs in an attempt to get free service is your strategy, no wonder you're frustrated. | Jun 13 17:50 |
| schestowitz | "I targeted throttling and BT (and Phorm/DPI), you make false claims about my position" | Jun 13 17:50 |
| schestowitz | telecom shill | Jun 13 17:50 |
| schestowitz | He claims to be an ISP | Jun 13 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Just started trolling me for no reasons | Jun 13 17:51 |
| schestowitz | ಥ⌣ಥ | Jun 13 17:53 |
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| schestowitz | Heh.. http://twitter.com/razvansandu/statuses/80255216917823488 | Jun 13 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot | @razvansandu: Dr. Roy Schestowitz http://lnkd.in/UWZZeK | Jun 13 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: LinkedIn - World's Largest Professional Network .::. Size~: 24.63 KB | Jun 13 18:40 |
| schestowitz | How kind of him.. | Jun 13 18:40 |
| schestowitz | "Dr. Roy Schestowitz is now connected to Dan Iancu, Director at AGOL Business SRL" | Jun 13 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Hello! | Jun 13 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Great news: now you will see what a REAL Microsoft troll (Romanian variant) looks like... =)) =)) =)) | Jun 13 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Best regards, | Jun 13 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Răzvan | Jun 13 18:56 |
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| schestowitz | neighborlee: how are you, my friend? | Jun 13 19:31 |
| neighborlee | im great..I still question the validity of linux though | Jun 13 19:31 |
| neighborlee | I still dont quite understand, why fedora maintains its use of gnome, given gnome still uses mono | Jun 13 19:32 |
| schestowitz | What do you think of Android? | Jun 13 19:32 |
| neighborlee | gnome3 is no different it seems | Jun 13 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you mean Linux desktop ATM | Jun 13 19:32 |
| neighborlee | I do | Jun 13 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Linux is a lot more than that | Jun 13 19:32 |
| neighborlee | fedora is the MOST free of mono, yet it embraces gnome, which embraces mono still | Jun 13 19:32 |
| neighborlee | disconnect ? ;) | Jun 13 19:32 |
| schestowitz | neighborlee: which apps in Fedora 15 use Mono? | Jun 13 19:33 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK it has gnote | Jun 13 19:33 |
| neighborlee | it does | Jun 13 19:33 |
| schestowitz | So where's the mono? | Jun 13 19:33 |
| neighborlee | I mean ,gnome as a whole..why embrace a desktop, that still uses mono | Jun 13 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I recently did a post about it | Jun 13 19:33 |
| neighborlee | tomboy and banshee | Jun 13 19:33 |
| schestowitz | After Forbes told me something about DistroWatch | Jun 13 19:33 |
| neighborlee | hm | Jun 13 19:33 |
| schestowitz | The Fedora community took note and responded | Jun 13 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Fedora COMES with Banshee? | Jun 13 19:33 |
| neighborlee | no.. | Jun 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz | OK, so... | Jun 13 19:34 |
| neighborlee | gnome still has it | Jun 13 19:34 |
| neighborlee | they 'embrace' it | Jun 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Where's the mono in Fedora/ | Jun 13 19:34 |
| neighborlee | faik its not | Jun 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz | No, they don't | Jun 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz | It's optional AFAIK | Jun 13 19:34 |
| neighborlee | are you sure | Jun 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz | It's Ubuntu that made this mistake | Jun 13 19:34 |
| neighborlee | yes | Jun 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Around Cambridge (release 10 IIRC) you and me celebrated the removal of some mono | Jun 13 19:34 |
| neighborlee | are you saying that gnome 3 contains no mono by default? | Jun 13 19:34 |
| schestowitz | 2009 | Jun 13 19:34 |
| neighborlee | yes we did | Jun 13 19:35 |
| neighborlee | I remember | Jun 13 19:35 |
| neighborlee | just making sure gnome3 is not using mono..their applicatoin page seems to indicate theyare | Jun 13 19:35 |
| neighborlee | http://www.gnome.org/applications/ < they brag tomboy and banshee. right there | Jun 13 19:35 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Applications | GNOME .::. Size~: 17.21 KB | Jun 13 19:35 |
| neighborlee | but yes of course..fedora is the one for no mono, short of using kde for desktop instead which has never <afaik> embraced mono | Jun 13 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Just noticed that running 'df' in one of the VOIp servers freezes the session. Minor peeve. ... very odd. | Jun 13 19:41 |
| schestowitz | neighborlee: banshee is not in healthy state | Jun 13 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Novell died | Jun 13 19:41 |
| schestowitz | The lead dev left | Jun 13 19:41 |
| schestowitz | ANyway, Feodra is the least of our problem | Jun 13 19:41 |
| neighborlee | yes I realize that | Jun 13 19:41 |
| schestowitz | TR (techrights) and GL (Groklaw) worry about Ubuntu | Jun 13 19:41 |
| neighborlee | they are easily in FRONT of this whole mono mess | Jun 13 19:42 |
| neighborlee | have been for several releases | Jun 13 19:42 |
| schestowitz | THey didn't used to be | Jun 13 19:42 |
| neighborlee | yup | Jun 13 19:42 |
| schestowitz | I believe all the pressure we put in 2006-2009 played a role | Jun 13 19:42 |
| schestowitz | It changed what people knew of the problem | Jun 13 19:42 |
| neighborlee | our voice DOES matter ;) | Jun 13 19:42 |
| schestowitz | But they won't ACK that public pressure was a factor in decision-making | Jun 13 19:42 |
| neighborlee | of course not | Jun 13 19:42 |
| neighborlee | groklaw played a bit part too | Jun 13 19:43 |
| neighborlee | .............big | Jun 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | neighborlee: why not be in #techrights where we speak the most about these issues? | Jun 13 19:43 |
| neighborlee | habit | Jun 13 19:43 |
| schestowitz | BTW, the Lins*** trolls made a return last week | Jun 13 19:43 |
| neighborlee | I forget its called somethig new is al | Jun 13 19:43 |
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| schestowitz | still trying to fix the broken debiabn vm | Jun 13 20:29 |
| schestowitz | gave up on it almost | Jun 13 20:29 |
| schestowitz | fscking while it's all mounted | Jun 13 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | hmmm... didn't know that Google had added keyboard navigation for search results (up/down arrows | Jun 13 21:22 |
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