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*Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-socialJun 13 03:06
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/76081666Jun 13 08:49
TechrightsBot@oposit (oposit)'s status on Sunday, 12-Jun-11 17:13:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @oceanwatcher @schestowitz Also you can click on adrees bar to type sftp://user@www.domain.com ...Jun 13 08:49
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/76081763Jun 13 08:49
TechrightsBot@oposit (oposit)'s status on Sunday, 12-Jun-11 17:15:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @oceanwatcher ... and right click after a succesfull connection to add that address to dolphin placesJun 13 08:49
schestowitzThanks to the help of #KDE folks, I've migrated the last bits I depended on Konqueror for. Dolphin does it better.Jun 13 08:50
schestowitz;:Jun 13 08:50
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/76137439 https://identi.ca/notice/76137547Jun 13 09:55
TechrightsBot@Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Monday, 13-Jun-11 08:31:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Special place you should visit: http://is.gd/euPHWr Think you would find the discussion interesting, if a touch paranoid.Jun 13 09:55
TechrightsBot-> Title: Gypsies, tramps & thieves | Project PM .::. Size~: 23.65 KBJun 13 09:55
TechrightsBot@Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Monday, 13-Jun-11 08:32:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Gack. Police Verso FDEJun 13 09:55
schestowitzhttp://www.echelon2.org/threads/gypsies-tramps-thieves.17/ "PS: You also should talk to Dr. Roy over at Techrights about this as well. He has some of the same information, but a different search engine attached to it. Jun 13 09:56
TechrightsBotTitle: Gypsies, tramps & thieves | Project PM .::. Size~: 23.73 KBJun 13 09:57
schestowitzNice one..Jun 13 09:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EvolvingCitizen/status/80183639706574848Jun 13 09:57
TechrightsBot@EvolvingCitizen: @schestowitz Dear Roy @CommoningSchool invites u 2 our upcoming workshop #SpanishRevolution, and the Commons Here and Now @: on.fb.me/kpgP1wJun 13 09:57
schestowitz#SpanishRevolution,?Jun 13 09:57
schestowitz"is there a non-Facebook page for it? I find Facebook  objectionable as dangerous as a platform."Jun 13 09:58
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/76139415Jun 13 10:08
TechrightsBot@Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Monday, 13-Jun-11 08:59:43 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And for my next trick :)Jun 13 10:09
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MinceRnobody expects the #SpanishRevolution!Jun 13 14:08
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schestowitzMinceR: ಠ_ಠJun 13 17:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/brettglass/status/80288452180062209Jun 13 17:49
TechrightsBot@brettglass: @schestowitz Ad hominem means "to the man" - a personal attack. Exactly what you are doing when you claim ISPs are rich and evil.Jun 13 17:49
schestowitzI never said thatJun 13 17:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/brettglass/status/80290563311669248Jun 13 17:50
TechrightsBot@brettglass: @schestowitz If insulting and vilifying ISPs in an attempt to get free service is your strategy, no wonder you're frustrated.Jun 13 17:50
schestowitz"I targeted throttling and BT (and Phorm/DPI), you make false claims about my position"Jun 13 17:50
schestowitztelecom shillJun 13 17:50
schestowitzHe claims to be an ISPJun 13 17:51
schestowitzJust started trolling me for no reasonsJun 13 17:51
schestowitzಥ⌣ಥJun 13 17:53
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schestowitzHeh.. http://twitter.com/razvansandu/statuses/80255216917823488Jun 13 18:40
TechrightsBot@razvansandu: Dr. Roy Schestowitz http://lnkd.in/UWZZeKJun 13 18:40
TechrightsBot-> Title: LinkedIn - World's Largest Professional Network .::. Size~: 24.63 KBJun 13 18:40
schestowitzHow kind of him..Jun 13 18:40
schestowitz"Dr. Roy Schestowitz is now connected to Dan Iancu, Director at AGOL Business SRL"Jun 13 18:56
schestowitzHello!Jun 13 18:56
schestowitzGreat news: now you will see what a REAL Microsoft troll (Romanian variant) looks like... =)) =)) =))Jun 13 18:56
schestowitzBest regards,Jun 13 18:56
schestowitzRăzvanJun 13 18:56
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schestowitzneighborlee: how are you, my friend?Jun 13 19:31
neighborleeim great..I still question the validity of linux thoughJun 13 19:31
neighborleeI still dont quite understand, why fedora maintains its use of gnome, given gnome still uses mono Jun 13 19:32
schestowitzWhat do you think of Android?Jun 13 19:32
neighborleegnome3 is no different it seemsJun 13 19:32
schestowitzMaybe you mean Linux desktop ATMJun 13 19:32
neighborleeI doJun 13 19:32
schestowitzLinux is a lot more than thatJun 13 19:32
neighborleefedora is the MOST free of mono, yet it embraces gnome, which embraces mono stillJun 13 19:32
neighborleedisconnect ? ;)Jun 13 19:32
schestowitzneighborlee: which apps in Fedora 15 use Mono?Jun 13 19:33
schestowitzAFAIK it has gnoteJun 13 19:33
neighborleeit doesJun 13 19:33
schestowitzSo where's the mono?Jun 13 19:33
neighborleeI mean ,gnome as a whole..why embrace a desktop, that still uses monoJun 13 19:33
schestowitzI recently did a post about itJun 13 19:33
neighborleetomboy and bansheeJun 13 19:33
schestowitzAfter Forbes told me something about DistroWatchJun 13 19:33
neighborleehmJun 13 19:33
schestowitzThe Fedora community took note and respondedJun 13 19:33
schestowitzFedora COMES with Banshee?Jun 13 19:33
neighborleeno..Jun 13 19:34
schestowitzOK, so...Jun 13 19:34
neighborleegnome still has itJun 13 19:34
neighborleethey 'embrace' itJun 13 19:34
schestowitzWhere's the mono in Fedora/Jun 13 19:34
neighborleefaik its notJun 13 19:34
schestowitzNo, they don'tJun 13 19:34
schestowitzIt's optional AFAIKJun 13 19:34
neighborleeare you sureJun 13 19:34
schestowitzIt's Ubuntu that made this mistakeJun 13 19:34
neighborleeyesJun 13 19:34
schestowitzAround Cambridge (release 10 IIRC) you and me celebrated the removal of some monoJun 13 19:34
neighborleeare you saying that gnome 3 contains no mono  by default?Jun 13 19:34
schestowitz2009Jun 13 19:34
neighborleeyes we didJun 13 19:35
neighborleeI rememberJun 13 19:35
neighborleejust making sure gnome3 is not using mono..their applicatoin page seems to indicate theyareJun 13 19:35
neighborleehttp://www.gnome.org/applications/ < they brag tomboy and banshee. right thereJun 13 19:35
TechrightsBotTitle: Applications | GNOME .::. Size~: 17.21 KBJun 13 19:35
neighborleebut yes of course..fedora is the one for no mono, short of using kde for desktop instead which has never <afaik> embraced monoJun 13 19:39
schestowitzJust noticed that running 'df' in  one of the VOIp servers freezes the session. Minor peeve. ... very odd.Jun 13 19:41
schestowitzneighborlee: banshee is not in healthy stateJun 13 19:41
schestowitzNovell diedJun 13 19:41
schestowitzThe lead dev leftJun 13 19:41
schestowitzANyway, Feodra is the least of our problemJun 13 19:41
neighborleeyes I realize thatJun 13 19:41
schestowitzTR (techrights) and GL (Groklaw) worry about UbuntuJun 13 19:41
neighborleethey are easily in FRONT of this whole mono messJun 13 19:42
neighborleehave been for several releasesJun 13 19:42
schestowitzTHey didn't used to beJun 13 19:42
neighborleeyupJun 13 19:42
schestowitzI believe all the pressure we put in 2006-2009 played a roleJun 13 19:42
schestowitzIt changed what people knew of the problemJun 13 19:42
neighborleeour voice DOES matter ;)Jun 13 19:42
schestowitzBut they won't ACK that public pressure was a factor in decision-makingJun 13 19:42
neighborleeof course notJun 13 19:42
neighborleegroklaw played a bit part tooJun 13 19:43
neighborlee.............bigJun 13 19:43
schestowitzneighborlee: why not be in #techrights where we speak the most about these issues?Jun 13 19:43
neighborleehabitJun 13 19:43
schestowitzBTW, the Lins*** trolls made a return last weekJun 13 19:43
neighborleeI forget its called somethig new is alJun 13 19:43
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schestowitzstill trying to fix the broken debiabn vmJun 13 20:29
schestowitzgave up on it almostJun 13 20:29
schestowitzfscking while it's all mountedJun 13 20:29
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schestowitzhmmm... didn't know that Google had added keyboard navigation for search results (up/down arrowsJun 13 21:22
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