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schestowitzMono boosters galore: http://twitter.com/akshatj_96/statuses/77145657479147520Jun 05 08:11
TechrightsBot-sc@akshatj_96: @explodingwalrus @agentdero Techrights is not a credible source of information..Jun 05 08:11
schestowitzI thought they had left us aloneJun 05 08:11
schestowitzThey did for a whileJun 05 08:12
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/statuses/77139035809792001Jun 05 08:12
TechrightsBot-sc@explodingwalrus: @agentdero really? http://tinyurl.com/6cjsygsJun 05 08:12
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: OpenSUSE Can Be Steered With Microsoft Money | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.02 KBJun 05 08:12
schestowitzTrying to discourage this guyJun 05 08:12
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/razvansandu/status/77250067362349056Jun 05 08:13
TechrightsBot-sc@razvansandu: @ruiseabra Nothing to wonder about. As @schestowitz says, this is clearly #entrysmJun 05 08:13
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schestowitzTechBytes Episode 50: ASUS Back With GNU/Linux, YouTube Likes Creative CommonsJun 05 08:28
schestowitzArticleJun 05 08:28
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/06/05/creative-commons-and-asus/Jun 05 08:28
TechrightsBot-scTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » TechBytes Episode 50: ASUS Back With GNU/Linux, YouTube Likes Creative Commons .::. Size~: 36.3 KBJun 05 08:28
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sebsebsebhiJun 05 14:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: How long do you tend to sleep?Jun 05 14:26
schestowitz6 hoursJun 05 14:29
sebsebsebschestowitz: I been sleeping about five recently, but going to bed not feeling tired, and well waking up not realy feel tired or that tired, hmmJun 05 14:29
sebsebseb,but in the day as wellJun 05 14:29
sebsebseblast few days or soJun 05 14:29
schestowitzIt's a matter of inertiaJun 05 14:33
schestowitzThe body adjusts to accept a more dense sleep cycleJun 05 14:33
schestowitzOne week I manage to do about 3.5 per night with coffeeJun 05 14:34
schestowitzBut there was headache side-effect, nice experiment thoughJun 05 14:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: I was sleeping more normally for about three weeks, quite recently, but then back to this kind of thing hmmJun 05 14:34
sebsebsebstill the not going to bed tired thing, but I mean sleeping earlier at nightJun 05 14:34
sebsebsebthe bed not tired thing, aboveJun 05 14:35
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schestowitzI'm getting too tired right nowJun 05 15:10
schestowitzA friend ruined my sleeping patternJun 05 15:10
schestowitzAs he insisted on arranging something at 6amJun 05 15:10
schestowitzI usually go to sleep at 3amJun 05 15:10
sebsebsebschestowitz: ohJun 05 15:12
schestowitzsee comments in http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2011-06-02-015-41-OS-OOJun 05 15:14
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Linux Today - Wake up, Linux hippies: No one 'morally obligated' to give back .::. Size~: 69.12 KBJun 05 15:14
schestowitzCanonical's former COOJun 05 15:15
schestowitzNot so much likedJun 05 15:15
schestowitzhttp://itmanagement.earthweb.com/cnews/article.php/3935116/Tech-Comics-How-Do-You-When-Its-Really-Really-Really-Over.htmJun 05 15:29
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Tech Comics: "How Do You When It's Really, Really, Really Over?" — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 84.84 KBJun 05 15:29
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/75448044Jun 05 15:36
TechrightsBot-sc@Mohan P Ram (mohanpram)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jun-11 14:09:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz nice, but that's based on PalmOS though right?Jun 05 15:36
schestowitzMy PDA uses Palm OSJun 05 15:36
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/75448307Jun 05 15:37
TechrightsBot-sc@lnxwalt (lnxwalt140)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jun-11 14:13:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @mohanpram And #WebOS has a clear UI metaphor. #Android does not. Want to close app? flick card vs sequence of 'back' presses.Jun 05 15:37
schestowitztrue..Jun 05 15:37
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/75448889Jun 05 15:38
TechrightsBot-sc@Mohan P Ram (mohanpram)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jun-11 14:21:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @lnxwalt140 @schestowitz yep the UI design is top notch, has the best notification system, looking forward to the TouchPad.Jun 05 15:38
schestowitzI prefer large-sized keyboardJun 05 15:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/77382497419268096Jun 05 15:39
TechrightsBot-sc@fcassia: @schestowitz I second that. They could still make money by charging OEMs for bugfixes and support, plus access to the "app store"Jun 05 15:39
schestowitzBzzzzzztt.. "App Store"... pay Mr. Jobs a fine for using the words he 'owns'Jun 05 15:39
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/75450051Jun 05 15:56
TechrightsBot-sc@Mohan P Ram (mohanpram)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jun-11 14:36:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I saw a few  people  on campus back when I was doing my BS with Palm PDA & keyboad docks, they were using it for note takingJun 05 15:56
schestowitzI did that too, way back in 2002 (also with Palm PDA). My keyboard is 8 years old, still works perfectly.Jun 05 15:56
schestowitzNow I found a new way to use my Palm and write posts from TraffordJun 05 16:01
schestowitzI can ride all the way to the docksJun 05 16:01
schestowitzIf it's funny, down the river...Jun 05 16:02
schestowitz"Jun 05 16:02
schestowitz> Revising, are you enjoying your bicycle experience, your bike is ace.Jun 05 16:02
schestowitzYes, I'll need to buy a rope for the bag-strapping. I found a good path from/to the gym that mostly avoids the high-traffic areas and also has parking area that is highly secured. I will show you next week, unless we ride all the way to Liverpool or something of that scale.Jun 05 16:02
schestowitz"Jun 05 16:02
schestowitzsebsebseb: do you ride a bike where you are?Jun 05 16:02
schestowitzI'm unaware of your hobbiesJun 05 16:02
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/fcassia/status/77386326223233024?iid=am-763719184&nid=4&uid=26603208Jun 05 16:03
TechrightsBot-sc@fcassia: @schestowitz hah hah. I was just thinking about possible business models. Have a WebOS app repository w admission fee for OEMs, 2 do ur ownJun 05 16:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/77386427016548352Jun 05 16:04
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I was first to say those trolls would also target Android, and a few days later that was proven right. Unfortunately.Jun 05 16:04
schestowitzAFAIK it was simultaneous as I had read it somewhere else. i<something> devs were first to speak out IIRC.Jun 05 16:04
sebsebsebschestowitz: well yeah I like cycleing, but haven't done so for uhmm I don't know, two or three years or somethingJun 05 16:10
sebsebsebdo have nice cycle trips that can go on here thoughJun 05 16:10
schestowitzIt's summer now... was a sale at the shop and also nice weather forecastJun 05 16:10
sebsebsebacstauly I been cycleing  last year, if we include the bike at the gym :DJun 05 16:11
sebsebsebthe cycle machine you  knowJun 05 16:11
schestowitzLOL: http://imgur.com/6LRWiJun 05 16:12
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Release the KRAKEN - Imgur .::. Size~: 20.62 KBJun 05 16:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gamingonlinux/status/77400681094455296Jun 05 16:51
TechrightsBot-sc@gamingonlinux: @schestowitz thanks for tweeting our news :)Jun 05 16:52
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/75454922Jun 05 16:59
TechrightsBot-sc@Mohan P Ram (mohanpram)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jun-11 15:45:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz now that's quality hardwareJun 05 16:59
ender_33[11:05] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: well yeah I like cycleing, but haven't done so for uhmm I don't know, two or three years or somethingJun 05 17:25
ender_33Is that because you can't find a freedom respecting bike?Jun 05 17:25
schestowitzactually, lots to like about bikesJun 05 17:26
schestowitzThe bad process if their manufacturingJun 05 17:26
ender_33im joking :)Jun 05 17:26
ender_33I like bikesJun 05 17:26
schestowitzender_33: I knowJun 05 17:26
schestowitzBut in IRC it's hard to get acrossJun 05 17:26
ender_33no fuel or insurance requredJun 05 17:26
schestowitzDon't think people in Taiwan are well paid for itJun 05 17:27
ender_33you bypass both evil corporationsJun 05 17:27
schestowitzMaybe some Chinese billionaires pocket all the profitsJun 05 17:27
ender_33butJun 05 17:27
ender_33I think when they ban cars, bikes will require a license and insuranceJun 05 17:27
ender_33the EU is banning carsJun 05 17:28
ender_33in like 50 years or somethingJun 05 17:28
schestowitzLOL: spinner: http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/77403136142217216?iid=am-114042655&nid=4&uid=26603208Jun 05 17:31
TechrightsBot-sc@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Depends on what you mean. Of course devs spoke out first. But I was first to stay Android would be hit before *any* dev said soJun 05 17:31
schestowitzhe changed the questionJun 05 17:31
ender_33FOSSPatents is a shillJun 05 17:31
schestowitzender_33: thar would be OKJun 05 17:31
schestowitzSee, I only need the bike to ride nearby and have funJun 05 17:32
schestowitzPeople can work from  home increasinglyJun 05 17:32
schestowitzThe heavy duty jobs are not in EuropeJun 05 17:32
schestowitzGermany 'imports' Turks to build the carsJun 05 17:32
ender_33I can work from homeJun 05 17:32
ender_33I find working at home more distracting thoughJun 05 17:32
schestowitzAnd many just send the problems aborad, with people working twice the normal cap per dayJun 05 17:32
schestowitzLondon has public bike cachesJun 05 17:33
schestowitzYou pick them up, park them back..Jun 05 17:33
ender_33ahJun 05 17:33
ender_33we got bike racks on our busesJun 05 17:33
schestowitzSeen it some weeks ado and loled at the Barcley brandign on them allJun 05 17:33
schestowitzBanks for bikes :-)Jun 05 17:33
schestowitzWhile the Barcley execs fly their jetsJun 05 17:33
ender_33some brands are better than others though RoyJun 05 17:34
schestowitzHere is Rusty from techbytes (new host) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijYHVq7FTLIJun 05 17:34
TechrightsBot-scTitle: YouTube         - ‪The iWorld EP 024: Part 1 : 1984 to 1984? : Also know as How We Got Here From There!‬‏ .::. Size~: 114.28 KBJun 05 17:34
schestowitzender_33: what brands?Jun 05 17:34
ender_33im not sure im not into sportsJun 05 17:34
ender_33i know there are differences in qualityJun 05 17:35
ender_33most bikes are fine for normal ridersJun 05 17:35
ender_33i know the stunt bike people in my area had brand preferences, just cant remember names right nowJun 05 17:36
ender_33seeing how rollerblades are different in quality among brands, it would apply the same with most sports equipmentJun 05 17:36
ender_33some brands for stunts and tricks, some for long distanceJun 05 17:37
ender_33I stopped buying generic roller blades due to the shitty qualityJun 05 17:38
ender_33I found a good brand: K2Jun 05 17:38
ender_33however, i dont buy something just because of the nameJun 05 17:39
ender_33its quality im afterJun 05 17:39
schestowitz[17:36] <ender_33> seeing how rollerblades are different in quality among brands, it would apply the same with most sports equipmentJun 05 17:40
schestowitzThe components and materials varyJun 05 17:40
schestowitzI notice with my new bikeJun 05 17:40
ender_33thats what I meanJun 05 17:40
schestowitzMy older ones were crappily builtJun 05 17:41
ender_33the quality of the materials usedJun 05 17:41
schestowitzIt's really hard to scratch these and the chains don't need any grease, it's rust-proofJun 05 17:41
ender_33oh niceJun 05 17:41
schestowitzIt has hub gears and brakes build into the wheels, so no need fo adjust these eitherJun 05 17:41
schestowitz[17:39] <ender_33> however, i dont buy something just because of the nameJun 05 17:42
schestowitzTrue, but..Jun 05 17:42
ender_33I used to think a bike only needed two tires, a frame and a set of gearsJun 05 17:42
schestowitzYou need to check the parts, not the brandJun 05 17:42
schestowitzIf you buy a  Mac, check who made the hard-driveJun 05 17:42
schestowitzIf you buy a bike, check what it's made itJun 05 17:42
ender_33I like suspension, the quality of the seat and perhaps extra features like kilometer counters and suchJun 05 17:42
schestowitzIf you buy a browser, make sure it uses a good rendering engineJun 05 17:43
ender_33i dont buy prebuild computersJun 05 17:43
ender_33wait, except for laptopsJun 05 17:43
schestowitzIf you buy strawberries, check about pesticidesJun 05 17:43
schestowitzI like about fruit that there's no brandingJun 05 17:43
schestowitzOr hardly anyJun 05 17:43
ender_33strawberries = check for organic and for gmoJun 05 17:43
schestowitzExcept when a company tins them or processes them to make it an expensive equiv.Jun 05 17:44
ender_33I dunno sometimes I'd prefer someone else do something for meJun 05 17:44
ender_33out of time constraintsJun 05 17:44
schestowitzFish is fish (esp. ocean ones) and milk is milkJun 05 17:44
schestowitzUnless it has Monsanto BGHJun 05 17:44
schestowitz> cancerJun 05 17:44
ender_33I dont make my own lunch, I eat lunch at a restaurantJun 05 17:45
schestowitz[17:43] <ender_33> i dont buy prebuild computersJun 05 17:45
ender_33at work anywaysJun 05 17:45
schestowitzI saw your youtube channel about building boxesJun 05 17:45
ender_33??Jun 05 17:45
schestowitzwell, not per seJun 05 17:45
schestowitzender_33: restaurants I have mixed feelings aboutJun 05 17:46
schestowitzJustifying the employment of people who are underpaid to do dishes and serve food for showJun 05 17:46
ender_33thats because theres a mixed outputJun 05 17:46
schestowitzBut the best response I heard was from my mom, who argued that she cooked for others all the time so the restaurant was her option of being served for a changeJun 05 17:47
ender_33most restaurants pay a low wage but the person gets enough tips that they are paid more than IJun 05 17:47
schestowitzNot manyJun 05 17:47
schestowitzSomeJun 05 17:47
schestowitzI have a friend who works in the businessJun 05 17:47
schestowitzSome here pay 5 pounds an hourJun 05 17:47
schestowitzNo tipsJun 05 17:47
ender_33its different in each countryJun 05 17:47
schestowitzThe high-class ones pay betterJun 05 17:47
schestowitzBut still require travel, dressing up, etc.Jun 05 17:47
schestowitzIn the US tips were great he saidJun 05 17:48
schestowitzAnd they also treated waiters a lot better, with more respectJun 05 17:48
schestowitzIn the UK it's perceived as a between-job thingJun 05 17:48
ender_33most places receive tips where I amJun 05 17:48
schestowitz*jobsJun 05 17:48
ender_33unless its mcdonaldsJun 05 17:48
ender_33or fast foodJun 05 17:48
schestowitz"Fast"Jun 05 17:48
schestowitzLaw wageJun 05 17:48
schestowitz*LowJun 05 17:48
schestowitzFast buckJun 05 17:49
ender_33fast as in, you get the food shortly after payingJun 05 17:49
ender_33nobody brings it to youJun 05 17:49
schestowitzor junk foodJun 05 17:49
ender_33not alwaysJun 05 17:49
ender_33sub shops are pretty healthyJun 05 17:49
schestowitzWell, sandwiches are common in newsstands hereJun 05 17:49
schestowitzI don't see this elsewhere, not to the same degree with the same type of packagingJun 05 17:50
ender_33I eat at subway a lotJun 05 17:50
schestowitzAnd that's even faster food and can be freshJun 05 17:50
ender_33its usually more fresh than the stuff I can make at homeJun 05 17:50
ender_33unless I do groceries every dayJun 05 17:50
schestowitzProbably..Jun 05 17:50
ender_33they make the bread thereJun 05 17:50
ender_33LOL then theres places like Red Lobster - where lobster in the past used to be considered garbage and was thrown outJun 05 17:51
ender_33they used to feed it to convicts who would complainJun 05 17:51
ender_33LOLJun 05 17:51
ender_33now your paying $50 a plateJun 05 17:51
ender_33http://youtu.be/aRK9FugzB5oJun 05 18:08
TechrightsBot-scTitle: YouTube         - ‪Glen Kealey 1‬‏ .::. Size~: 101.13 KBJun 05 18:08
ender_33he used to be married to Shelly Ann Clar, NAFTA whistleblowerJun 05 18:16
ender_33ClarkJun 05 18:16
ender_33I gotta get my hands on "New World Order - Corruption in Canada"Jun 05 18:28
ender_33by Professor Robert O'DriscollJun 05 18:29
schestowitzseen itJun 05 18:46
schestowitzbriberyJun 05 18:46
ender_33you've seen the book or the videoJun 05 18:47
schestowitzcideoJun 05 18:48
ender_33lol in mississauga they purchased mail scanning machines for 100,000 dollars more than market priceJun 05 18:49
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