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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75468562 | Jun 06 01:44 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: thanks | Jun 06 01:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jun-11 18:44:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @kevie By the way not that long ago in !TechRights #IRC I suggested that @openbytes and @schestowitz listen to !TuxJam :)! | Jun 06 01:44 |
| schestowitz | gn | Jun 06 01:44 |
| ender_33 | schestowitz there is a spammer | Jun 06 02:00 |
| sebsebseb | ender_33: I gone to #Freenode about it | Jun 06 02:00 |
| sebsebseb | ,but no reply | Jun 06 02:00 |
| sebsebseb | ender_33: and schestowitz is away | Jun 06 02:00 |
| sebsebseb | ender_33: looks like going to be spammed there the rest of the night | Jun 06 02:03 |
| ender_33 | fun | Jun 06 02:04 |
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| sebsebseb | ChrisTX4: I guess they are only bothering spamming the main channel | Jun 06 02:19 |
| ChrisTX4 | appears so | Jun 06 02:19 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah like I said in pm this one and #boycottnovell are ok | Jun 06 02:19 |
| ChrisTX4 | why are there even 3 chans? | Jun 06 02:19 |
| ChrisTX4 | I thought the previous ones were closed? | Jun 06 02:19 |
| sebsebseb | well it used to be Boycottnovell the old name | Jun 06 02:19 |
| sebsebseb | before Techrights | Jun 06 02:19 |
| sebsebseb | that's why | Jun 06 02:19 |
| sebsebseb | nope they are still used the previous channels, but it's #Techrights mainly | Jun 06 02:20 |
| sebsebseb | and then this one | Jun 06 02:20 |
| sebsebseb | and then #boycottnoevll | Jun 06 02:20 |
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| ChrisTX4 | ah ok | Jun 06 02:20 |
| sebsebseb | ChrisTX4: and maybe your the spammer person, controlling it, because uhmm look who just joined | Jun 06 02:21 |
| ChrisTX4 | what am I? | Jun 06 02:21 |
| sebsebseb | ChrisTX4: well maybe you are, but probaby not :d | Jun 06 02:21 |
| ChrisTX4 | how could I be chatting from two pcs? | Jun 06 02:21 |
| sebsebseb | ,but just after I say about it not being in here, and the other, it comes | Jun 06 02:21 |
| Shadowww | sebsebseb, he's unrelated to spam, just asked him to watch | Jun 06 02:21 |
| ChrisTX4 | http://forum.rev-crew.info/test.html | Jun 06 02:22 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: http://google.com .::. Size~: 0.05 KB | Jun 06 02:22 |
| Shadowww | o lol, its multithreaded idd | Jun 06 02:23 |
| sebsebseb | Hello Shadowww the troll | Jun 06 02:23 |
| Shadowww | Hello, I am ShadowwwShadowwwShadowww and I want to meet you | Jun 06 02:24 |
| ender_33 | lol ChrisTX4 is using Floe | Jun 06 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | Hello Shadowww the troll | Jun 06 02:24 |
| ender_33 | a C# irc client | Jun 06 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | ender_33: ChrisTX4 is invovled with the spamming? | Jun 06 02:24 |
| ChrisTX4 | wat | Jun 06 02:24 |
| ender_33 | hes apparently here to watch | Jun 06 02:24 |
| ChrisTX4 | ender_33, so? | Jun 06 02:24 |
| ChrisTX4 | is it bad to use C#? | Jun 06 02:24 |
| Shadowww | yeah, at least it has font subpixel rendering, unless all of those nerdy lunix clients | Jun 06 02:24 |
| Shadowww | i heard lunix has no fonts | Jun 06 02:24 |
| ChrisTX4 | http://forum.rev-crew.info/test.html | Jun 06 02:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | Jun 06 02:24 |
| ChrisTX4 | wat | Jun 06 02:25 |
| Shadowww | wat indeed | Jun 06 02:25 |
| ender_33 | there are client that dont require microsoft .net 4 technology | Jun 06 02:25 |
| ChrisTX4 | yeah, like what do you recommend? | Jun 06 02:26 |
| ChrisTX4 | also this doesnt require .net 4 | Jun 06 02:26 |
| ChrisTX4 | only 3.5.1 or so | Jun 06 02:26 |
| ender_33 | floe.codeplex.com says .NET 4 | Jun 06 02:26 |
| ender_33 | so pardon me for being wrong | Jun 06 02:26 |
| ChrisTX4 | Konversation? hmhm no | Jun 06 02:26 |
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| ender_33 | No lives of course | Jun 06 02:27 |
| ender_33 | They must be kids | Jun 06 02:28 |
| ender_33 | The person spamming us is Shadowww is ~sh@46.109.166.159 (lol wut) | Jun 06 02:29 |
| ender_33 | The person spamming us is Shadowww is ~sh@46.109.166.159 (lol wut) | Jun 06 02:29 |
| ender_33 | The person spamming us is Shadowww is ~sh@46.109.166.159 (lol wut) | Jun 06 02:30 |
| ender_33 | The person spamming us is Shadowww is ~sh@46.109.166.159 (lol wut) | Jun 06 02:30 |
| ender_33 | The person spamming us is Shadowww is ~sh@46.109.166.159 (lol wut) | Jun 06 02:37 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-sc running phIRCe v0.53 | Jun 06 08:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 38.85 KB | Jun 06 08:40 |
| schestowitz | After the flood-attack on the channel we're actually stronger and resistant to future attacks. | Jun 06 08:43 |
| schestowitz | [08:37] <schestowitz> Use "/chanserv op #techrights [YOUR-USERNAME] " at any time. You can now get op also in #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social | Jun 06 08:43 |
| schestowitz | [08:39] <someone> hi schestowitz, thanks for that, was just on the phone to the Australian Communications Consumer Action Network (ACCAN) | Jun 06 08:43 |
| schestowitz | [08:40] <someone> I am not familiar with operator stuff but know some people in irc.fdfnet.net#groklaw who are operators and helpful if I need advice on banning spammers | Jun 06 08:43 |
| schestowitz | [08:41] <schestowitz> We've addressed the issue by updating the lists so that more people can gain ops. | Jun 06 08:43 |
| schestowitz | [08:42] <someone> good, I haven't been keeping up in the channel as much as I'd like, sometimes work gets in the way but I do like to follow what's happening | Jun 06 08:43 |
| schestowitz | Mono children still at it.. http://twitter.com/akshatj_96/statuses/77506308818993152 | Jun 06 08:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @akshatj_96: @gnomeuser YOU ARE MICROSOFT SHILL, I KNEW TECHRIGHTS WAS RIGHT! | Jun 06 08:49 |
| schestowitz | TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 50 – 04/06/11 – “Rusty’s return!” | Jun 06 09:39 |
| schestowitz | > One more tonight: | Jun 06 09:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 06 09:39 |
| schestowitz | > scotus-vs-freedom-labour_ES | Jun 06 09:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 06 09:39 |
| schestowitz | > I really hope Europe rejects SWPATS. Europe is the hope of the whole world! | Jun 06 09:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php?page=4 | Jun 06 10:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 06 10:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 34.74 KB | Jun 06 10:06 |
| schestowitz | # Why I Defend… | Jun 06 10:06 |
| schestowitz | # 07:22PM May 05/30/11, 2011 | Jun 06 10:06 |
| schestowitz | # [PJ: A lot of you ask why lawyers represent clients that you don't like. I stumbled across a lawyer's blog today, from a link someone recommended to a letter he wrote for the US holiday Memorial Day, to his dad, now deceased. He answers that question very well. He represents as his speciality members of the armed forces that get into some kind of trouble and need a lawyer to represent them in a court martial or before an | Jun 06 10:06 |
| schestowitz | administrative body. He gets the same question, from people, “How can you represent those people”? You might want to read the entire answer, but here is the heart of it:] | Jun 06 10:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 06 10:06 |
| schestowitz | Loads of this stuff defending the occupation of lawyers | Jun 06 10:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/77660424820109313 | Jun 06 10:07 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz You gotta understand that accusing people of "lying" is a rather significant accusation and in my case you have no basis for it | Jun 06 10:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/77660596958531584 | Jun 06 10:07 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz In particular, there's no "lying" about the ITC's claim construction order. I linked to it. Analyze those 88 pages yourself. | Jun 06 10:07 |
| schestowitz | was referring to earlier incidents | Jun 06 10:07 |
| schestowitz | Lots of pro-GOogle and pro-IBM (proprietary) stuff too... maybe the links there are not as good as they used to be.. e.g. http://blogs.forbes.com/bruceupbin/2011/05/25/ibms-watson-now-a-second-year-med-student/ | Jun 06 10:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: IBM’s Watson Now A Second-Year Med Student - Bruce Upbin - Tradigital - Forbes .::. Size~: 102.38 KB | Jun 06 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes she has good commentary, still | Jun 06 10:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nj3ma/status/77661924753551360 | Jun 06 10:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @nj3ma: @schestowitz Sign me up. | Jun 06 10:11 |
| schestowitz | for the wiki..? | Jun 06 10:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/77662087345750016 | Jun 06 10:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I have a clear conscience. Please tell me one or more earlier incidents of "lying" on my part from your point of view. | Jun 06 10:12 |
| schestowitz | Ed Burnette has already done so | Jun 06 10:12 |
| schestowitz | "Eric Schmidt at #d9: If you care about security, you should use a Mac, not a PC. " | Jun 06 10:15 |
| schestowitz | That aristocrat dares not mention anything but Mac and PC? | Jun 06 10:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/77663325235838976 | Jun 06 10:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz He's an Android fanboi and his article referred mostly to what he quoted from Engadget, not what I had written. Also, (+) | Jun 06 10:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/77663576634040322 | Jun 06 10:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz cont: Burnette just attacked a strawman. I had not claimed that Oracle's code was shipped on devices, just in the repository. | Jun 06 10:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/77664348000092160 | Jun 06 10:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz In 8 weeks you'll see a Google motion for summary judgment dismissing the copyright infringement allegations. And it will fail. | Jun 06 10:34 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75530803 | Jun 06 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Moshe Njema (nj3ma)'s status on Monday, 06-Jun-11 09:33:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Yep for the wiki. Or alternatively to beat up, strangle, mutilate said abusers and bury their bodies in the desert. | Jun 06 10:53 |
| schestowitz | I see. Anyone can create a wiki account and contribute to the site, take pages elsewhere, etc. It's all very open and transparent. | Jun 06 10:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/229298/cloud_services_vs_desktop_apps_what_fits_your_needs.html | Jun 06 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Cloud Services vs. Desktop Apps: What Fits Your Needs? | PCWorld .::. Size~: 85.19 KB | Jun 06 11:05 |
| schestowitz | "In the old days, this would be easy: Microsoft Office. That's because no matter what tools were out there competing with any of the Office applications" | Jun 06 11:05 |
| schestowitz | It does no>> "But now the Open Document Format (ODF) is available, and even Office uses it, " | Jun 06 11:06 |
| schestowitz | *does not | Jun 06 11:06 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/73080459#notice-75532508 | Jun 06 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.65 KB | Jun 06 11:07 |
| schestowitz | I think it's because of the identica/twitter duality | Jun 06 11:07 |
| schestowitz | I'll invite him... "thanks for joining our community. We also coordinate activities on IRC http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ " | Jun 06 11:09 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75533679 | Jun 06 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Moshe Njema (nj3ma)'s status on Monday, 06-Jun-11 10:09:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Sure. Great work you do. It's an honour to serve with you,sir. Now to find an IRC client for my phone. | Jun 06 11:17 |
| schestowitz | Excellent! | Jun 06 11:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVnkb5RV3EU | Jun 06 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | my current research at the lab spans about 150 pages now | Jun 06 11:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9KlMWzKj4s | Jun 06 11:34 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQCkoBAd__g | Jun 06 11:43 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/77684016337272833 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/77684842178936832 | Jun 06 11:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @fcassia: @schestowitz beware of FOSS "Freedom fighters" who use anti-CLAs rethoric to kill commercial products l StarOffice http://ho.io/libreoffice | Jun 06 11:58 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | @fcassia: @schestowitz sorry, wrong link http://ho.io/anti-CLAs | Jun 06 11:58 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/77684842178936832 | Jun 06 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @fcassia: @schestowitz sorry, wrong link http://ho.io/anti-CLAs | Jun 06 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Mark Shuttleworth on companies and free software [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 236.48 KB | Jun 06 11:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/77683210682769408 | Jun 06 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @fcassia: @schestowitz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-licensing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contributor_License_Agreement | Jun 06 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Multi-licensing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 33.9 KB | Jun 06 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Contributor License Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 25.25 KB | Jun 06 11:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/77685271147200513 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/77685625603633153 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/77685670759501824 | Jun 06 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @fcassia: @schestowitz without CLAs what happens is you have to ask every single dev. for permission before shipping a FOSS-based product w a EULA | Jun 06 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @fcassia: @schestowitz CLAs are a trade-off, but it gives earnings to software firms and that gives an incentive 2 put more FOSS developers on payroll | Jun 06 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @fcassia: @schestowitz just my $0.02 :-) | Jun 06 11:59 |
| schestowitz | good points | Jun 06 12:00 |
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| MinceR | the bots really need some sort of flood limit built in | Jun 06 12:50 |
| MinceR | and preferably some filtering of input URLs too | Jun 06 12:51 |
| MinceR | (so it ignores the domains used by the trolls) | Jun 06 12:51 |
| oiaohm | I first thought like the winehq bot flood limit | Jun 06 12:52 |
| oiaohm | Ie rapidly send lines into winehq get auto kicked followed if you do it again with a autoban | Jun 06 12:52 |
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| MinceR | that's a distinct thing | Jun 06 12:59 |
| MinceR | the bot shouldn't flood; and we should kickban people for flooding (but the latter can be done manually) | Jun 06 12:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: bot has an advantage. No human to blame. | Jun 06 13:00 |
| MinceR | it also has a disadvantage: it might act when unneeded/unwanted | Jun 06 13:01 |
| MinceR | for example, it might be lagged for a while and then get messages in a burst and consider non-flood to be flood. | Jun 06 13:01 |
| oiaohm | Not if its working how wines one works. | Jun 06 13:03 |
| oiaohm | By irc server time stamps on messages. | Jun 06 13:04 |
| MinceR | this irc network doesn't timestamp messages, afaik | Jun 06 13:04 |
| MinceR | OTOH, the ircd or services probably has some sort of flood limit built in which we could use | Jun 06 13:04 |
| MinceR | especially if the bot would be limited to not get itself kicked. | Jun 06 13:04 |
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| schestowitz | > i think its morally wrong to turn a project which folks have contributed | Jun 06 17:56 |
| schestowitz | > with the spirit of copyleft into a project with a parasitic license | Jun 06 17:56 |
| schestowitz | > (apache 2.0) which can then give folks the chance to "commercially ship" | Jun 06 17:56 |
| schestowitz | > the product. | Jun 06 17:56 |
| schestowitz | > Dual licensing has traditionally been the way out there. Many famous | Jun 06 17:57 |
| schestowitz | > companies have used it to either bring in money or bring in | Jun 06 17:57 |
| schestowitz | > contributions. The Apache Foundation move by Oracle seems more like a | Jun 06 17:57 |
| schestowitz | > wooing of IBM by Oracle than anything else. At least that's the only | Jun 06 17:57 |
| schestowitz | > angle I can see it making any sense at all from. | Jun 06 17:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 06 17:57 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: seen that? | Jun 06 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Agreeing? | Jun 06 17:57 |
| schestowitz | I echoed your views the other day | Jun 06 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Phipps does too | Jun 06 17:57 |
| schestowitz | > "Wait. It seems that despite its grant to #ASF | Jun 06 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > <http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23ASF> #ORCL | Jun 06 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | > <http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23ORCL> keeps both the trademark and | Jun 06 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | > copyright on #openoffice <http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23openoffice> | Jun 06 17:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Search .::. Size~: 20.6 KB | Jun 06 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > code. Doh #FAIL <http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23FAIL> #WTF | Jun 06 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | > <http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WTF> #LibreOffice | Jun 06 17:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Search .::. Size~: 20.44 KB | Jun 06 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > <http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23LibreOffice>" | Jun 06 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | > OOo might not make it out of the ASF incubator stage, and even if it | Jun 06 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > does, it doesn't seem to have much excitement, compared w LO. Plus, as | Jun 06 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > David Neary wrote, OOo can't get any bounce from LO progress, due to | Jun 06 17:59 |
| schestowitz | > OOo's non-copyleft license at ASF. | Jun 06 17:59 |
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| schestowitz | hi, qu1j0t3 | Jun 06 18:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | ola | Jun 06 18:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | how are you? | Jun 06 18:04 |
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| schestowitz | I'm OK, too busy recently | Jun 06 18:13 |
| schestowitz | As in, too much to run TR properly | Jun 06 18:13 |
| ender_33 | David Neary is the one who wanted to split gnome off from gnu | Jun 06 18:41 |
| gnufreex_ | ender_33: Hmm.. I don't know about him | Jun 06 19:12 |
| gnufreex_ | ender_33: got link | Jun 06 19:13 |
| gnufreex_ | ? | Jun 06 19:13 |
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| ender_33 | !google david neary gnome gnu | Jun 06 19:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Safe as Milk » Blog Archive » GNOME Census | http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2010/07/28/gnome-census/ | Jun 06 19:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - Safe as Milk » Blog Archive » Has GNOME rejected Canonical help? | http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/03/07/has-gnome-rejected-canonical-help/ | Jun 06 19:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Dave Neary on the Gnome/KDE/Canonical Relationship | http://lxnews.org/2011/03/14/neary-on-the-gnome-kde-canonical/ | Jun 06 19:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Mini GNU Hackers Meeting at FOSDEM Brussels 2010 | http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2010/fosdem/ | Jun 06 19:36 |
| ender_33 | !google david neary gnome gnu split | Jun 06 19:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - GNOME To Split from GNU Project? | http://www.osnews.com/story/22610/GNOME_To_Split_from_GNU_Project_ | Jun 06 19:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - FLOSS Foundations at EuroOSCON 2005 | FLOSS Foundations | http://flossfoundations.org/node/11 | Jun 06 19:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - iTWire - Canonical must change copyright policy | http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/45747-canonical-must-change-copyright-policy | Jun 06 19:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Has GNOME Rejected Canonical Help? Shuttleworth Responds - Slashdot | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/03/10/1644208/Has-GNOME-Rejected-Canonical-Help-Shuttleworth-Responds | Jun 06 19:36 |
| ender_33 | here is a biased one | Jun 06 19:37 |
| ender_33 | http://www.osnews.com/story/22610/GNOME_To_Split_from_GNU_Project_ | Jun 06 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: GNOME To Split from GNU Project? .::. Size~: 34.1 KB | Jun 06 19:37 |
| gnufreex | ender_33: He didn't advocate for split. | Jun 06 19:37 |
| ender_33 | oh he most certainly did if you read the mailing list | Jun 06 19:37 |
| ender_33 | ohhhh nevermind | Jun 06 19:38 |
| ender_33 | he advocated against it | Jun 06 19:38 |
| ender_33 | it was Philip | Jun 06 19:38 |
| gnufreex | ender_33: Philip van Hoof did | Jun 06 19:38 |
| ender_33 | yeah | Jun 06 19:38 |
| gnufreex | ender_33: Neary was against it | Jun 06 19:38 |
| gnufreex | I read it | Jun 06 19:38 |
| schestowitz | [18:41] <ender_33> David Neary is the one who wanted to split gnome off from gnu | Jun 06 19:38 |
| ender_33 | yes yes | Jun 06 19:38 |
| schestowitz | No | Jun 06 19:38 |
| ender_33 | I had it mixed up | Jun 06 19:38 |
| ender_33 | that was a year ago | Jun 06 19:39 |
| schestowitz | > I get the feeling that the main groups involved in the ASF move are IBM | Jun 06 19:39 |
| schestowitz | > and, to a lesser extent, Oracle. Much of the community moved to | Jun 06 19:39 |
| schestowitz | > LibreOffice last year. | Jun 06 19:39 |
| gnufreex | ender_33: You probably confused him with David Nielsen troll | Jun 06 19:39 |
| ender_33 | nah | Jun 06 19:39 |
| gnufreex | That guy is pro MSFT | Jun 06 19:39 |
| schestowitz | > The dilemma here is Apache OOo i beleive will be better for ODF, for the | Jun 06 19:39 |
| schestowitz | > community, unless some miracle 'collabaration' occurs. horrible.. | Jun 06 19:39 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: pro-.NET | Jun 06 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Not sure about Microsoft | Jun 06 19:39 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: he loves MSFT | Jun 06 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Some people are indoctrinated uin some places for this junk | Jun 06 19:40 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: URL? | Jun 06 19:40 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Mosly Unbutu Forum posts | Jun 06 19:40 |
| schestowitz | You once told me people were censored or banned for linking to TR | Jun 06 19:40 |
| ender_33 | the name david neary stuck out in my mind because he had been against it | Jun 06 19:40 |
| schestowitz | This turned out not to be true, so I cannot take it at face value | Jun 06 19:40 |
| gnufreex | I was about to post about him on my blog, but forgot. Still have draft though. | Jun 06 19:40 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: which one/s? | Jun 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: Neary is kind of cool | Jun 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz | I most agree with him, even though I'm not a big GNOME fan | Jun 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz | TR linked to him dozens of times | Jun 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Today I realised something | Jun 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Monoculture is dead | Jun 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Mono culture | Jun 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Not just the team | Jun 06 19:42 |
| ender_33 | :) | Jun 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz | The "ecosystem" too | Jun 06 19:42 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: There is no way to prove censorship, because it is censored. | Jun 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz | They don't hecklle me | Jun 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Hardly do... today some 14 year old did | Jun 06 19:42 |
| ender_33 | the spammer? | Jun 06 19:42 |
| gnufreex | There are threads on UF where they all heckle you. schestowitz I think I gave you those links | Jun 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz | And it wasn't even vulgar. Xamarin has neither the capital of the media clout to make much out of it, I assume... and I don't know about the trademarks and copyrights, either... not seen any formal passage of these | Jun 06 19:43 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: no | Jun 06 19:43 |
| schestowitz | OMGTeens | Jun 06 19:43 |
| ender_33 | ohhh | Jun 06 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Discovering Ubuntu before they discover that thing called pubes :-) | Jun 06 19:43 |
| schestowitz | And already heckle people | Jun 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Because they are painted as "eenmy" | Jun 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz | I didn't even mention him, AFAIK, he just went along with the mono flock berating me | Jun 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Then Microsoft Florian joined him | Jun 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz | I'm ignoring Florian again, he is moving goalposts | Jun 06 19:45 |
| ender_33 | http://www.mail-archive.com/foundation-list@gnome.org/msg04067.html | Jun 06 19:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership .::. Size~: 9.34 KB | Jun 06 19:45 |
| schestowitz | That's a nicely made video.. (title is a joke) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP_iNCGH9kY | Jun 06 19:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - HITLER: THE ATHEIST (Quiz Show) .::. Size~: 125.69 KB | Jun 06 19:49 |
| ender_33 | ugh, godwin's law | Jun 06 19:50 |
| schestowitz | No | Jun 06 19:53 |
| schestowitz | If atheists were compared to Hitler.. then.. | Jun 06 19:53 |
| schestowitz | This one does the opposite, it dispels this for those like Ben Stein who break Godwin's law | Jun 06 19:54 |
| ender_33 | Ben Stein rocks | Jun 06 20:01 |
| schestowitz | ^_^ | Jun 06 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Hotmail :-) | Jun 06 20:03 |
| schestowitz | I have a mate who's a surgeon with a hotmail account | Jun 06 20:03 |
| schestowitz | I found someone who can help with the site... | Jun 06 20:04 |
| schestowitz | >>> You had wanted me to review some documents last week but I never saw | Jun 06 20:04 |
| schestowitz | >>> them. Did you just get the work done yourself or did I miss something? | Jun 06 20:04 |
| schestowitz | >> | Jun 06 20:04 |
| schestowitz | >> Thanks a lot for the excellent links. I've been trying to mail you | Jun 06 20:04 |
| schestowitz | >> something, I'll retry. | Jun 06 20:04 |
| schestowitz | > I have received nothing further. If email does not work you can put it here | Jun 06 20:04 |
| schestowitz | > by sftp: | Jun 06 20:04 |
| schestowitz | > [...] | Jun 06 20:04 |
| schestowitz | > Feel free to look around but there's not much of interest on that box. | Jun 06 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Thank you. I will see how I can get better info-sharing going in the coming days. | Jun 06 20:04 |
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| schestowitz | Hmm... Someone I know wants a site for his restaurant, so we might have another client soon. | Jun 06 21:56 |
| ender_33 | eh? | Jun 06 22:03 |
| schestowitz | sometimes I build sites for people | Jun 06 22:21 |
| ender_33 | good stuff | Jun 06 22:29 |
| ender_33 | I linked this yesterday but now its embeded in my site along with being a playlist that goes through all 11 parts | Jun 06 22:29 |
| ender_33 | http://qubitarkhive.com/2011/06/05/glen-kealey-in-1996-exposing-corruption-in-canada/ | Jun 06 22:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Glen Kealey in 1996 exposing Corruption in Canada - Qubit ArkHive .::. Size~: 27.04 KB | Jun 06 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Corruption is everywhere | Jun 06 22:30 |
| schestowitz | In Canada probably less than avg. | Jun 06 22:30 |
| ender_33 | BBL | Jun 06 22:31 |
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| qu1j0t3 | but sure to increase under Der Harper | Jun 06 22:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's traditional where he comes from | Jun 06 22:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | & he's instituting a reign of secrecy | Jun 06 22:35 |
| schestowitz | To change perception of corruption|? | Jun 06 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Or to facilitate corruption? | Jun 06 22:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | facilitate | Jun 06 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Wish I knew Canadian politics better... | Jun 06 22:55 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i don't think it's been under such concerted attack by protofascists (neocons, Rovian strategists) before. | Jun 06 23:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's not holding up well at all. we just elected an unrepresentative government; i.e. it was hacked. | Jun 06 23:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: same as every other western democracy has been hacked in the past 15 yrs, i guess. | Jun 06 23:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | just a bit late to the party | Jun 06 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Well, you can try to fix it if you can shoot down the corporate media | Jun 06 23:20 |
| schestowitz | They have more influence than a million Canadian have | Jun 06 23:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah, that's usually the attack vector. | Jun 06 23:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | but it's a weird situation: | Jun 06 23:21 |
| schestowitz | They also help overthrow governments in the middle east now | Jun 06 23:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | corporate media is going to amplify the problem from here on | Jun 06 23:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | but there are few defences ehre | Jun 06 23:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | here | Jun 06 23:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | i think it's going to get much worse | Jun 06 23:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's not clear that we're not headed for USA Junior, here. | Jun 06 23:21 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't always.. | Jun 06 23:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's the ideology of the ruling party | Jun 06 23:21 |
| schestowitz | USA as in NY? | Jun 06 23:21 |
| schestowitz | Ofr michigan? | Jun 06 23:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Jun 06 23:22 |
| schestowitz | NY would not be bad | Jun 06 23:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | USA as in Broken. | Jun 06 23:22 |
| schestowitz | USA is not broken | Jun 06 23:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | NY is corrupt. | Jun 06 23:22 |
| schestowitz | You wanna see broken? | Jun 06 23:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes it is. | Jun 06 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Go to China, Uganda... | Jun 06 23:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | hahaha | Jun 06 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Even Syria or Israel.. | Jun 06 23:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: USA is most definitely broken. | Jun 06 23:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | and a contributor to all those other states' brokenness. | Jun 06 23:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | sponsor, in fact. | Jun 06 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Europe is less broken than the US IMGO | Jun 06 23:22 |
| schestowitz | *HO | Jun 06 23:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes, from what I see, you are still correct on that. | Jun 06 23:23 |
| schestowitz | The US likes to mock Europe | Jun 06 23:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | I know. | Jun 06 23:23 |
| schestowitz | Cause they actually stick to working hours | Jun 06 23:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | Canada has less and less grounds to mock US. | Jun 06 23:23 |
| schestowitz | And don't need two jobs to get a car they don't need | Jun 06 23:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | we're losing sovereignty daily. | Jun 06 23:23 |
| schestowitz | It's turning from Queen's to Trump's | Jun 06 23:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: did you see what Brigette DePape did? | Jun 06 23:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | Brendan won't approve. | Jun 06 23:24 |
| schestowitz | is that the wikileaks woman? | Jun 06 23:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | no. | Jun 06 23:25 |
| schestowitz | [I read about her twitter/doj thing yesterday] | Jun 06 23:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | wait till this evening, i'll give you a good link on it. it's important. | Jun 06 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Aside.. | Jun 06 23:25 |
| schestowitz | !google Brigette DePape | Jun 06 23:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Kelly McParland: Cancel the election results. Brigette DePape is ... | http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/06/05/kelly-mcparland-cancel-the-election-results-brigette-depape-is-not-happy/ | Jun 06 23:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - YouTube - TEDxYouthOttawa - Brigette dePape - 03/04/10 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DpRU5lIus-Zg | Jun 06 23:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Brigette DePape - True Canadian Patriot | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/pages/Brigette-DePape-True-Canadian-Patriot/220342141318948 | Jun 06 23:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Cancel the election results. Brigette DePape is not happy | http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2730223/posts | Jun 06 23:33 |
| schestowitz | TED LOL | Jun 06 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Father TED? | Jun 06 23:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | links 1 & 4 are presumably the acid conservative reaction. | Jun 06 23:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | look for links on rabble.ca | Jun 06 23:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | i tweeted a couple of good ones. | Jun 06 23:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | "Harper interrupts political statement by Brigette DePape" | Jun 06 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | I have a question and need for diagnosis as I've been having this going on for months. If I connect to an idle server with all cores available and on Ethernet and the connection is SSH with port forwarding, well... sometimes the graphics rendering is sort of delayed for days... later it's all snappy. Might the ISP be causing this somehow? | Jun 06 23:39 |
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