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| ender_33 | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2002697/Little-Spinners-pole-dancing-classes-children-young-THREE.html | Jun 15 17:32 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Little Spinners pole dancing classes for children as young as THREE | Mail Online .::. Size~: 112.01 KB | Jun 15 17:32 |
| ender_33 | daily mail sure, but they don't make up news | Jun 15 17:33 |
| ender_33 | almost as bad as when brazil almost indoctrinated the youth into getting homosexual erections in public washrooms | Jun 15 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | ender_33: you'd be surprised | Jun 15 18:32 |
| schestowitz | re [17:33] <ender_33> daily mail sure, but they don't make up news | Jun 15 18:32 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: thanks for the advice on monitors | Jun 15 18:58 |
| schestowitz | I guess I'll keep trying to get the old monitor started | Jun 15 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Once it goes, it goes... provided the bulb is there. | Jun 15 18:59 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/76348877 | Jun 15 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jun-11 17:39:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Yes, but often a quality display will outlast a black hole of other upgrades. | Jun 15 18:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/81054982064975872 | Jun 15 18:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @davidgerard: @schestowitz only 2.5 months? open source can't possibly match the fit and finish of proprietary software. | Jun 15 18:59 |
| schestowitz | That's for a desktop session with 2GB of RAM and very heavy usage, few memory leaks | Jun 15 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Thanks a lot. Catching up after a downtime-ish.... | Jun 15 19:05 |
| schestowitz | BTW, in template it should be "Reader's Picks" where "Leftover" goes :-) | Jun 15 19:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: davidgerard is obviously referring to Windows... | Jun 15 19:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | fit and finish! | Jun 15 19:05 |
| *qu1j0t3 giggles | Jun 15 19:05 | |
| qu1j0t3 | misfit and finish last | Jun 15 19:05 |
| ender_33 | lol fit and finish | Jun 15 19:13 |
| ender_33 | windows is far from perfect | Jun 15 19:13 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: he uses ubuntu | Jun 15 19:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: he was being sarcastic then? | Jun 15 19:15 |
| schestowitz | it's david from wikipedia.. sometimes he's on the BBC and stuff. I don't always get his hunour... he comes from Asutralia :-) | Jun 15 19:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | weridos | Jun 15 19:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | weirdos* | Jun 15 19:15 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 15 19:21 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I think so | Jun 15 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I thought you might know him | Jun 15 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Eccentric fellow | Jun 15 19:22 |
| ender_33 | http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/47630-brad-kuhn-a-life-devoted-to-free-software | Jun 15 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @: | Jun 15 19:24 |
| ender_33 | remember the arianna huffington self-promotion | Jun 15 19:25 |
| ender_33 | same thing | Jun 15 19:25 |
| schestowitz | BTW, salesman at shop today thought I was Canadian | Jun 15 19:25 |
| schestowitz | Lots of people say that, no idea why.. | Jun 15 19:25 |
| schestowitz | More people say "Canadian" than "American" | Jun 15 19:26 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: she's all that | Jun 15 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Her whole site is named after her | Jun 15 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Pretending she's a paper | Jun 15 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Imagine the Murdoch Post | Jun 15 19:26 |
| ender_33 | yeah but look at Sam promoting Bkuhn | Jun 15 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Or the Branson Times | Jun 15 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Bkuhn comes across as rude | Jun 15 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Which Sam? | Jun 15 19:27 |
| ender_33 | from itwire | Jun 15 19:27 |
| ender_33 | varghese | Jun 15 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Oh, Carghese | Jun 15 19:27 |
| schestowitz | He does | Jun 15 19:27 |
| schestowitz | He's pro FSF | Jun 15 19:27 |
| schestowitz | And bkuhn promotes good causes | Jun 15 19:27 |
| ender_33 | Bkuhn is one of those extremists | Jun 15 19:28 |
| ender_33 | "Bradley Kuhn: a life devoted to Free Software" | Jun 15 19:39 |
| ender_33 | thats his job | Jun 15 19:39 |
| ender_33 | that would be like devoting an award to a garbage man for his 'life devoted to garbage disposal' | Jun 15 19:39 |
| ender_33 | For example, I'm often teased because of my obsession with old hardware, but I've never really considered the idea of switching to a new computer while the one I have still works. I buy all my computers used on the second-hand market; it just feels more "real" that way to me, like picking out a dog at the shelter. | Jun 15 19:42 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 15 19:42 |
| ender_33 | 'I've never really considered the idea of switching to a new computer while the one I have still works. | Jun 15 19:43 |
| ender_33 | I would still be running a pentium 2 if I followed his advice | Jun 15 19:43 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: What's the sky like there right now? | Jun 15 19:56 |
| sebsebseb | cloudy or? | Jun 15 19:56 |
| schestowitz | It's yucky all day today | Jun 15 20:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/81059379754967040 | Jun 15 20:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @davidgerard: @schestowitz I remember my annoyance when KDE 3.0.0 on FreeBSD required me to restart Kicker every few months :-) | Jun 15 20:17 |
| schestowitz | In this case I did need to recover some KDE processes throughout the 2.5 months :-) | Jun 15 20:17 |
| ender_33 | I had a smooth transition | Jun 15 20:18 |
| ender_33 | thanks to SUSE | Jun 15 20:18 |
| schestowitz | :/ | Jun 15 20:24 |
| ender_33 | when it was SUSE | Jun 15 20:25 |
| ender_33 | or should I say SuSE | Jun 15 20:25 |
| schestowitz | I used that too at the time | Jun 15 20:29 |
| schestowitz | At home and work too | Jun 15 20:29 |
| ender_33 | I liked YAST | Jun 15 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it's still quite goo | Jun 15 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Mandriva also has good admin tool | Jun 15 20:52 |
| ender_33 | no it doesn't | Jun 15 21:23 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 15 21:23 |
| schestowitz | > I saw your update article this morning and wanted to give you a progress | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > report. | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > The promised delivery date of next week sounds workable. I should be able to | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > look at the material three or four time before then, once or twice before now | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > and Saturday. That should give us enough back and forth to have some good | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > material ready next week. | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > My first passes were slow but now I'm making good progress. I've given the | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > stuff you sent me two or three passes and am starting to get more familiar with | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > the sources and characters. I'm making links to source material and | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > explanations that might be helpful. | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > That 2006 Common Dreams write up is really the bomb shell source. | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | That looks brilliant so far. I want you to have full editorial control over it. I will only help by continuing to work on other months (to avoid conflicting or duplicate work), the important thing is that this gets documented and organised. It sure makes a difference. | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | ^^^ woring on Gates Monitor | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | Revising it | Jun 15 21:24 |
| schestowitz | Cyrus gives me headlines today.. | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | > > Can you be a bit more specific about the issues you are seeing? In | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | > > particular: | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | > > | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | > > - what options did you pass into "configure"? | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | I did what the /doc suggested. it make no option recommendations AFAIK. | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | > > - which versions of net-snmp have you tried? and which one is the | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | > > default with the version of Ubuntu you are using? | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu does not appear to have it (10.04): | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | sudo apt-get install net-snmp | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | [sudo] password for roy: | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Reading package lists... Done | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Building dependency tree | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Reading state information... Done | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | E: Couldn't find package net-snmp | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | I did just find "snmp" and installed it. Prior to that I compiled | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | net-snmp-5.3.3 and net-snmp-5.6.1.1 | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~/Main/Misc/Projects/cyrus$ ls | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | cyrus-imapd-2.5 net-snmp-5.3.3.zip SNMP-OLD | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | net-snmp-5.3.3 net-snmp-5.6.1.1.zip | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | > > - can you supply some more context, such as the last 20 lines or so of | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | > > the output from make to help pinpoint the error? | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Sure. Here's what I get at the moment: | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | ### Making all in /home/roy/Main/Misc/Projects/cyrus/cyrus-imapd-2.5/man | Jun 15 21:51 |
| schestowitz | make[1]: Entering directory | Jun 15 21:51 |
| ender_33 | hostname roy ? | Jun 15 21:53 |
| ender_33 | :) | Jun 15 21:53 |
| schestowitz | yes | Jun 15 21:56 |
| schestowitz | what else? | Jun 15 21:56 |
| schestowitz | I have no big network at home | Jun 15 21:56 |
| schestowitz | and it's my main machine for sshing into workplaces too | Jun 15 21:57 |
| schestowitz | What's your box name? | Jun 15 21:57 |
| ender_33 | which one | Jun 15 21:58 |
| ender_33 | my fileserver is 'discovery' | Jun 15 21:58 |
| ender_33 | my desktop is 'enterprise' my laptop/netbook is 'excelsior' | Jun 15 21:59 |
| schestowitz | nice | Jun 15 21:59 |
| ender_33 | this vm is 'virtual-illuminatus' | Jun 15 22:01 |
| ender_33 | http://xkcd.com/910/ | Jun 15 22:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: xkcd: Permanence .::. Size~: 8.07 KB | Jun 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz | btw, why has erongly vanished? | Jun 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Heas he gone deeper into his dildo business? | Jun 15 22:02 |
| schestowitz | now that access fired him and FOSS people ostracised+ him? | Jun 15 22:03 |
| ender_33 | I don't know | Jun 15 22:03 |
| schestowitz | anyway, mono booters have been quiet | Jun 15 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Not just in their hostility towards ciritics | Jun 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Just in general... quiet, dead. | Jun 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Novell too | Jun 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | The company seems to have laid of PR | Jun 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | There is one one person who blogs for novell.com re PR and that too it rare | Jun 15 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Novell and Mono are sort of kaput | Jun 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | But software patents are the goal of elimination | Jun 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the USPTO will fall along with the US economy | Jun 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Just need to keep EU clean for now.. and Canada | Jun 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | i4i making a mess.. | Jun 15 22:08 |
| schestowitz | I covered other Canadian companies that do patent evil... but they piggyback the US system | Jun 15 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:02] <TechrightsBot-sc> Title: xkcd: Permanence .::. Size~: 8.07 KB | Jun 15 22:24 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure I get it | Jun 15 22:24 |
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