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schestowitzThis is a nice show.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD0uLHR9A4YJun 26 18:27
TechrightsSocialTitle: YouTube         - ‪The "Whatever" Show - The Thinking Atheist Radio Podcast #23‬‏ .::. Size~: 113.15 KBJun 26 18:27
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/85030987288948736?iid=am-117706969213091079423104205&nid=4&uid=26603208Jun 26 18:48
TechrightsSocial@davidgerard: @schestowitz although WMF has fudged it on occasion, e.g. using Java a while before it was fully GPL, Solaris 10 image server *blush*Jun 26 18:48
schestowitzhttp://www.businessinsider.com/a-fair-and-balanced-examination-of-the-software-patent-debate-2011-6Jun 26 18:50
TechrightsSocialTitle: Intellectual Property: Fred Wilson Is Right, Software Patents Are Bunk .::. Size~: 110.38 KBJun 26 18:50
schestowitzsunny morning expected... http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9Jun 26 20:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: BBC Weather | Manchester .::. Size~: 61.39 KBJun 26 20:41
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sebsebseb Jun 26 21:26
schestowitzI small trademark issues (Google) http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~bron/research_bofs.htmlJun 26 21:43
TechrightsSocialTitle: Feature-based shape analysis .::. Size~: 8.51 KBJun 26 21:43
schestowitz"ShapeGoogle"Jun 26 21:44
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: you have a script or something that says " " when you join.Jun 26 21:52
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: Uhmm why?Jun 26 21:52
sebsebseband  bots tend to have seenJun 26 21:52
qu1j0t3                           #boycottnovell-social                                  â”^V              Jun 26 21:52
qu1j0t3[16:25:50]    sebsebseb |                                                         â”^V               Jun 26 21:52
qu1j0t3[16:43:41] @schestowitz | I small trademark issues (Google)                       â”^V              Jun 26 21:52
qu1j0t3blehJun 26 21:53
sebsebseba lot of them on the networkJun 26 21:53
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: re-read what i wrote.Jun 26 21:53
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: you have something in your client that's saying " " when you join.Jun 26 21:53
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: heh hehJun 26 21:53
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: maybe you can turn it off.Jun 26 21:53
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: heh hehJun 26 21:53
sebsebsebuhmmJun 26 21:53
sebsebsebwellJun 26 21:53
sebsebsebnot quiteJun 26 21:53
sebsebseb:DJun 26 21:53
qu1j0t3what do you mean?Jun 26 21:53
MinceRhe's the "something" that says thatJun 26 21:53
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: i seeJun 26 21:53
qu1j0t3well, maybe you can turn it off, anyway.Jun 26 21:53
MinceR Jun 26 21:54
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: what turn myself off, so I can't type that?  don't think I can without killing myselfJun 26 21:54
qu1j0t3no, there's a middle ground.Jun 26 21:54
sebsebsebfor exampleJun 26 21:54
sebsebsebMinceR:  Jun 26 21:54
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: this makes !seen features of bots useless, ntw.Jun 26 21:54
qu1j0t3btw*Jun 26 21:54
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: any decent 'seen' feature says "Oh gosh, he's IN THE CHANNEL NOW."Jun 26 21:55
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: uhmm had  a bot that was like thatJun 26 21:55
sebsebsebbeforeJun 26 21:55
sebsebsebin another channelJun 26 21:55
sebsebsebwell it would be like,  maybe you need glasses they are in here right nowJun 26 21:55
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: so, how about, short of killing yourself, you just don't do it? it's unclear what purpose it serves.Jun 26 21:55
sebsebsebMinceR: By the way what purpouse do you think it serves?Jun 26 21:55
qu1j0t3unless it's your freaky hello.Jun 26 21:56
qu1j0t3which is okay I suppose.Jun 26 21:56
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: I tend to say hi in channels when I come in :)Jun 26 21:56
sebsebseb,butJun 26 21:56
sebsebsebnot with these anymoreJun 26 21:56
qu1j0t3so...Jun 26 21:56
qu1j0t3why not?Jun 26 21:56
sebsebsebso this insteadJun 26 21:56
sebsebseb Jun 26 21:56
qu1j0t3if you hadn't explained it was your weird hello, then I assumed it was a client script or soemthing.Jun 26 21:56
qu1j0t3now that's clarified.Jun 26 21:56
MinceRsebsebseb: i think you're overdoing it, tbh :>Jun 26 21:57
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: as for the seen, it can show the empty line as well, well tested  with a bot in other channelsJun 26 21:57
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: I am sure it can. that's my point.Jun 26 21:57
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: the whole SEEN business is irrelevant here. if anything, you make SEEN less useful this way.Jun 26 21:58
sebsebseband it woudn't make it useless, because seen is meant to really show, when  the last message wasJun 26 21:58
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: sighJun 26 21:58
sebsebsebI meant having the empty line showingJun 26 21:58
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: look, fine, i accept it's your "hello." Don't bother with the ridiculous SEEN stuff.Jun 26 21:58
sebsebsebit woudn't make seen uselessJun 26 21:58
qu1j0t3subject is over Jun 26 21:58
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: as for the seen stuff, we don't have a bot here, that can do thatJun 26 21:58
qu1j0t3trmanco's could be easily made to do it.Jun 26 21:59
sebsebseb!seen qu1j0t3Jun 26 21:59
sebsebsebtrmanco what? who what?  there's no nick called that hereJun 26 21:59
qu1j0t3sigh.Jun 26 21:59
sebsebsebMinceR:  Jun 26 21:59
sebsebsebMinceR:  can be  a bit stupidJun 26 21:59
sebsebsebMinceR:  Jun 26 21:59
sebsebsebMinceR: ,but also some fun at times :DJun 26 21:59
sebsebseb Jun 26 21:59
sebsebseb Jun 26 21:59
*schestowitz confusedJun 26 22:00
schestowitzsebsebseb: trmanco is Tony MancoJun 26 22:00
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/#!/Synt4x/status/85028675183050752Jun 26 22:00
TechrightsSocial@Synt4x: Interesting shell-based #irc client http://t.co/tQPEWFMJun 26 22:00
schestowitzHe was hanging out with us for a long timeJun 26 22:00
TechrightsSocial-> Title: sdegutis/irc.sh - GitHub .::. Size~: 29.7 KBJun 26 22:00
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: trmaanco wrote the bot which does this ^^Jun 26 22:00
schestowitzHe's also the one who pressured me to statrt denting in 2009Jun 26 22:00
schestowitzLater I opened a twitter account toJun 26 22:00
schestowitzAnd the rest is historyJun 26 22:00
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's only history till MS rewrites you!Jun 26 22:01
schestowitzNaaa..Jun 26 22:01
sebsebsebschestowitz: anyway maybe I can use my USB headset in Virtualbox :D well about to find outJun 26 22:01
schestowitzIn Stalinist Russia, EVETYTHING write YOUJun 26 22:01
sebsebsebschestowitz: in XP in virutalboxJun 26 22:01
sebsebsebmessing around trying to configure pulseaudio when not really knowing what  to do with it, oh yes that's not funJun 26 22:01
schestowitzOK, I didn't use it muchJun 26 22:01
schestowitzIn one lab they have many windows machines and on one I installed MintJun 26 22:02
schestowitzused it for an hour and discarded itJun 26 22:02
schestowitzIt was in the wrong language too (VB)Jun 26 22:02
schestowitzThen they gave me a dual-head KubuntuJun 26 22:02
schestowitzBut this guy at the lab was chewing an apple there, which distracted meJun 26 22:03
schestowitzI decided I'd just work from homeJun 26 22:03
schestowitzSSH is slower than 100MBit Ethernet, but at least I get other benefits Jun 26 22:03
schestowitzBut anyway, that's my most recent experience with VirtualBoxJun 26 22:04
schestowitzPrior to this I tried installed VB on Fedora to run another distroJun 26 22:04
schestowitzIt didn't go down wellJun 26 22:04
qu1j0t3rly?Jun 26 22:05
qu1j0t3what happened?Jun 26 22:05
schestowitzcan't recall exactlyJun 26 22:26
schestowitzBut I think I blogged about it a few timesJun 26 22:26
schestowitzI've just gone through several more papers (including one of the most recent one from IEEE journals, "Are MSER features really interesting?")Jun 26 22:27
schestowitzI don't just experiment  with distros at work nowJun 26 22:27
schestowitzI also put down some thoughts in pictures.Jun 26 22:28
schestowitzIt's a lot more funJun 26 22:28
schestowitzBut I then publish PDFs in bulk, not blogging :/Jun 26 22:28
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schestowitzI have over 200 pages of notes now...Jun 26 23:59
schestowitzI also put down some thoughts in picturesJun 26 23:59

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