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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY4LU8_7gQQ&feature=digest_fri,7-99:digestJun 29 02:25
TechrightsSocialTitle: YouTube         - ‪Accountability & Rape‬‏ .::. Size~: 126.53 KBJun 29 02:25
schestowitzreminds me of the Assange caseJun 29 02:25
qu1j0t3the assange persecutionJun 29 02:34
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schestowitzThe trolls came to YouTUbe.... "Good. Now you can work on the awful sound and the fact that you are boring. Troll Linux? Why? Nobody uses desktop Linux for videos. Most use Macs which is why our videos don't look and sound as awful as yours do. Now don't run out and buy a Mac because it won't make you interesting. 'Jun 29 08:24
schestowitz"The problem is the gear I use. I would not use an expensive cam, let alone a Mac."Jun 29 08:26
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/6zs4d.gifJun 29 08:44
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/gif typeJun 29 08:44
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/84751380543324160Jun 29 08:55
TechrightsSocial@rcweir: Little niece asks if I listen to "Bieber".    I say, yes, I love Heinrich Ignaz Franz von Biber, especially his Sonata Sancti PolycarpiJun 29 08:55
MinceRlolJun 29 09:09
*MinceR prefers Biber ZsoltJun 29 09:13
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/85781129927458816Jun 29 09:30
TechrightsSocial@migueldeicaza: Google builds a product I want now.   I need an invite to Google+, please ;-)Jun 29 09:30
MinceRwhoaJun 29 09:31
MinceRmiguel sees the m$ empire collapsing now and is rushing to the competition already?Jun 29 09:31
MinceRmaybe he's butthurt because he realized that silver lie has no future :>Jun 29 09:36
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/Gc456.gifJun 29 11:00
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/gif typeJun 29 11:00
schestowitzMinceR: :-)Jun 29 11:01
schestowitzEntryismJun 29 11:01
schestowitzNow they need to outlive.... by hijacking Facebook  Nokia, etc.Jun 29 11:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wood5y/status/86010366206812160Jun 29 11:17
TechrightsSocial@wood5y: a #Linux major distro updates RT @schestowitz #Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.2 is Released http://ur1.ca/4j8jzJun 29 11:17
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Debian -- News -- Updated Debian 6.0: 6.0.2 released .::. Size~: 33.93 KBJun 29 11:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/86012529641398272Jun 29 11:17
TechrightsSocial@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz any chance you use any honeycomb tab?Jun 29 11:17
schestowitzNot at this moment. Tried at the shop...Jun 29 11:17
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schestowitzdarn... server downJun 29 14:05
schestowitzI am working towards implementing some great stuff (server/network just gone down though, so I watch Geodesic Methods for Biomedical Image Segmentation), then should have ROC curves.Jun 29 14:05
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qu1j0t3MinceR: i love that we can use Miguel and butthurt in the same sentence at last.Jun 29 15:04
MinceR:>Jun 29 15:04
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sebsebsebhiJun 29 18:00
qu1j0t3sebsebseb:                                                                                               hiJun 29 18:18
sebsebsebqu1j0t3:  Jun 29 18:18
schestowitz0/Jun 29 19:00
sebsebsebqu1j0t3:                                                                                                             now I saw what you ddiJun 29 19:00
sebsebsebdidJun 29 19:00
schestowitzWas supposed to do some posts in the gymJun 29 19:01
schestowitzInstead stayed in the gym for 4 hoursJun 29 19:01
schestowitzSpoke to some Pilot from DeltaJun 29 19:02
schestowitzFor some reason I always get caught up with long conversations with them, about the economy and all... their kids' future is mortgagedJun 29 19:02
schestowitzI think msb__ is the only US resident hereJun 29 19:02
schestowitz> I love languages, so 2 weeks before our cruise I picked up some GreekJun 29 19:05
schestowitz> Pimsleur CD's from the library and they were very helpful. On our landJun 29 19:05
schestowitz> excursions I shocked a few taxi drivers and hotel clerks.Jun 29 19:05
schestowitz> Jun 29 19:05
schestowitz> However, my Italian was much better than my Greek and I am proud to say thatJun 29 19:05
schestowitz> at least 5 Italians asked if my heritage was Italian. Maybe it stems fromJun 29 19:05
schestowitz> all the TV Soprano episodes about the mafia that I love to watch.Jun 29 19:05
schestowitz> Jun 29 19:05
schestowitz> Spanish is really my second language as I am fully fluent and can read andJun 29 19:05
schestowitz> write whatever I wish.Jun 29 19:05
schestowitz> Jun 29 19:05
schestowitz> Our waiter aboard the ship was Filipino and a delightful man. Before servingJun 29 19:05
schestowitz> dinner he would use the pepper mill as a bogus mic and serenade us withJun 29 19:05
schestowitz> Sinatra and Dean Martin favorites. On the last night of the cruise, I askedJun 29 19:05
schestowitz> our Filipino room maid to translate to Tagalog..."We love our singingJun 29 19:05
schestowitz> waiter, Lazaro. We will miss you!"Jun 29 19:05
schestowitz> Jun 29 19:05
schestowitz> At dinner, Anita and I read the Tagalog words to him...he got all mistyJun 29 19:05
schestowitz> eyed.Jun 29 19:05
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Jun 29 19:06
schestowitz> Jun 29 19:06
schestowitz> http://www.google.com/webfonts/v2Jun 29 19:06
TechrightsSocialTitle: Google Web Fonts .::. Size~: 1.21 KBJun 29 19:06
schestowitzThat's nice, but required support from many devices.Jun 29 19:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wayneborean/status/86036858894688256Jun 29 19:31
TechrightsSocial@wayneborean: @schestowitz New Theory: Darwin does Free Software Or Why Free Software Will Evolve Faster Than Proprietary Software http://bit.ly/loRZjwJun 29 19:31
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Darwin does Free Software  |  SemiAccurate .::. Size~: 76.29 KBJun 29 19:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/86132561415385088Jun 29 19:33
TechrightsSocial@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz #Fox Thinks #Apple Is Religion, Bashes #Samsung #Galaxy #Tab http://bit.ly/iidQi5 @fox @ClaytonMorrisJun 29 19:33
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Fox Thinks Apple Is Religion, Bashes Samsung Galaxy Tab | Muktware .::. Size~: 38.77 KBJun 29 19:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86140758465323008Jun 29 19:44
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz cc: @zoobab I don't "boost" Maureen O'Gara. She was first to report this and I share information from a variety of sources.Jun 29 19:44
schestowitzLOLJun 29 19:44
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/77594684Jun 29 19:53
TechrightsSocial@noobsaibot's status on Wednesday, 29-Jun-11 10:50:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that's nice and all, i couldn't install it though, since GHNS complains that it's a webpage or something !kdeJun 29 19:53
qu1j0t3Florian clearly thinks that it's about the articles.Jun 29 20:07
qu1j0t3will deny till he's black and blue that there's an agendaJun 29 20:07
qu1j0t3since he is part of the same agenda...Jun 29 20:08
qu1j0t3does a fish know it's wet??Jun 29 20:08
schestowitzRead tghis http://techrights.org/2011/06/29/microsoft-lobbyists-for-swpats-eu/Jun 29 20:16
TechrightsSocialTitle: Microsoft Lobbyists Still Push for Software Patents in Europe | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.94 KBJun 29 20:16
schestowitzJust publishedJun 29 20:16
schestowitzSee bottom partJun 29 20:16
schestowitzI think he's one of those who manage never to say "yes" to the questionJun 29 20:16
schestowitzwhwther he's paud by MicrosoftJun 29 20:16
schestowitzHe never says no eitherJun 29 20:17
schestowitzhe evades the questipnJun 29 20:17
schestowitzAnd says he's complyign with EU lobbyists lawJun 29 20:17
qu1j0t3LOLJun 29 20:17
qu1j0t3"just following orders"Jun 29 20:17
schestowitzyeahJun 29 20:17
schestowitzhe has a long lobbying careerJun 29 20:17
qu1j0t3what a f****** a******Jun 29 20:17
schestowitzhe calls it \"CampaigningJun 29 20:17
schestowitzA rose by any other nameJun 29 20:17
qu1j0t3for clients.Jun 29 20:17
qu1j0t3campaigning for clients.Jun 29 20:17
qu1j0t3are we supposed to think he's a CHARITY?Jun 29 20:17
qu1j0t3of course he's paidJun 29 20:18
schestowitzHeheJun 29 20:18
schestowitzThanks, Florian, for defending usJun 29 20:18
qu1j0t3he insults our intelligence to imply that we should think he's notJun 29 20:18
schestowitz!google fosspatents  lodsyss "LOVES" his advise blogspotJun 29 20:18
TechrightsSocial[1] - Techmeme: Analysis of Apple's letter to Lodsys (Florian Mueller ... | http://www.techmeme.com/110523/p63Jun 29 20:18
TechrightsSocial[2] - Lobbyists Against GNU/Linux Increasingly Use Patents as Weapons ... | http://techrights.org/2011/06/20/lobbying-against-linux-with-swpats/Jun 29 20:18
TechrightsSocial[3] - IP Target: Leverage If You Are Threatened with Patent Infringement ... | http://iptarget.blogspot.com/2011/06/leverage-if-you-are-threatened-with.htmlJun 29 20:18
TechrightsSocial[4] - igoeIP Apple Patent Blog: May 2011 | http://www.applepatent.com/2011_05_01_archive.htmlJun 29 20:18
schestowitzSee [3]Jun 29 20:18
schestowitzThe trolls love FlorianJun 29 20:18
schestowitzHe tells peopel to pay the trollsJun 29 20:18
schestowitzWith patents from Microsoft's CTOJun 29 20:18
schestowitzWho is now the world's biggest patent trollJun 29 20:19
schestowitzFunded by GatesJun 29 20:19
schestowitzOne of his baest mates in life, tooJun 29 20:19
schestowitzSeen the article  posted a link to re Faceboom , lobbying?Jun 29 20:19
schestowitzAnd remember Facebook's astroturfJun 29 20:19
schestowitz!google facebook lobbyists attack googleJun 29 20:19
TechrightsSocial[1] - Google Spent More on Lobbyists in 2010 Than Yahoo, Facebook and ... | http://mashable.com/2011/01/31/google-lobbyists-2010/Jun 29 20:19
TechrightsSocial[2] - What Tech Spends On Lobbying: Google, Apple, Facebook Compared | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/22/tech-lobbying-2010_n_826528.htmlJun 29 20:19
TechrightsSocial[3] - Facebook Fights Social Networking Bill | http://www.techunlimitedusa.com/2011/05/18/facebook-fights-social-networking-bill/Jun 29 20:19
TechrightsSocial[4] - A List of What Lobbyists Snuck into the Budget Deal - Politics ... | http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/04/list-what-lobbyists-snuck-budget-deal/36639/Jun 29 20:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86154138072784897Jun 29 20:40
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I don't support Zuck's pro-patent positions either but he does his job while Red Hat et al. don't make much counterlobby effortJun 29 20:40
schestowitz"does his job"Jun 29 20:40
schestowitzLOLJun 29 20:40
schestowitzLike you do your job, i.e. lobbying for Microsoft?Jun 29 20:41
schestowitz"@FOSSpatents since you always avoid the question (over a dozen times), I will ask you again if Microsoft/partner pays you to lobby. "Jun 29 20:42
qu1j0t3job, exactly.Jun 29 20:44
schestowitzYou know ZUckJun 29 20:52
schestowitzWords cannot describe itJun 29 20:52
schestowitzThe guy is a failed actorJun 29 20:52
schestowitzLies for over 210 years against LinuxJun 29 20:52
schestowitzAND...Jun 29 20:52
schestowitzHe pretends to be the oppositionJun 29 20:52
schestowitzTo make himself effectiveJun 29 20:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/8615756481915699Jun 29 20:53
TechrightsSocialNot a tweet?Jun 29 20:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86157564819156992Jun 29 20:53
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That's not my job. Key thing is that you're too easily satisfied with failure to have serious impact by Red Hat, FFII, FSFE.Jun 29 20:53
schestowitz"You're still not answering my question. I asked whether Microsoft pays you, you evade the question AGAIN."Jun 29 20:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86158103044833281Jun 29 20:54
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz We've had that before and I won't answer differently than last year. The real topic is: abject failure of anti-swpat lobby.Jun 29 20:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86158308041441280Jun 29 20:55
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz and btw, the last name of the guy who created pseudo-anti-swpat non-solutions like OIN and PtP ends with a "k", not a "g".Jun 29 20:55
schestowitzHe jumps with OT stuffJun 29 20:55
schestowitzTo make me forget the question... LOLJun 29 20:55
qu1j0t3yes. it's usualJun 29 20:57
qu1j0t3politicians do thisJun 29 20:57
schestowitzI asked people to ask himJun 29 21:00
schestowitzAsk him tooJun 29 21:00
schestowitzIn TwitterJun 29 21:00
schestowitzIt'll pressure himJun 29 21:00
schestowitzStill avoiding the question, lobbyist.Jun 29 21:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86160809746640896Jun 29 21:05
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Are you the same broken conspiracy-theory record as last year or interested in discussing the actual issues?Jun 29 21:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86161640978001920Jun 29 21:06
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz You're not going to solve any of the problems facing Linux that way. You don't want to admit RHT etc. are not on your side.Jun 29 21:06
qu1j0t3lulzJun 29 21:09
qu1j0t3see, he only cares about being on the same side as a corporationJun 29 21:09
qu1j0t3that's what software is about, to him. lucrative alliancesJun 29 21:09
qu1j0t3that was a very revealing comment.Jun 29 21:12
qu1j0t3he's nobody if he doesn't stand on the right side of the biggest playerJun 29 21:12
qu1j0t3have their tacit endorsementJun 29 21:12
qu1j0t3that's what he's sayingJun 29 21:12
qu1j0t3and he expects you to feel the same, which is obviously ridiculousJun 29 21:13
qu1j0t3how childish that he uses the word 'conspiracy'Jun 29 21:15
qu1j0t3to prevent you revealing an ordinary business connectionJun 29 21:15
qu1j0t3cowardlyJun 29 21:15
qu1j0t3he'll do anythign to prevent that coming outJun 29 21:16
qu1j0t3because he'll earn less when it doesJun 29 21:16
qu1j0t3that's the funny thing about working for both sides at once..Jun 29 21:16
qu1j0t3or pretending to...Jun 29 21:16
qu1j0t3it's fine until they all find outJun 29 21:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86164017055412224Jun 29 21:19
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It's a distraction, not a serious question. Distr from the fact that your anti-swpat fighters are just IBM standards lobbyists.Jun 29 21:19
qu1j0t3wtf?Jun 29 21:20
qu1j0t3he's deranged...Jun 29 21:20
qu1j0t3see again:Jun 29 21:20
schestowitz"It's not a distraction. What you do now is reflection and does solidify the claims you are paid by Microsoft"Jun 29 21:20
qu1j0t3his assumption is that his detractors are ALSO being bribedJun 29 21:20
qu1j0t3he can't imagine another scenario, that they might be acting out of principle.Jun 29 21:20
qu1j0t3it's very revealing.Jun 29 21:20
qu1j0t3all criminals are like thisJun 29 21:20
qu1j0t3they think everyone else is motivated in the same way.Jun 29 21:20
schestowitzYeahJun 29 21:22
schestowitzSee my new tweets Jun 29 21:22
schestowitzFor background tooJun 29 21:22
schestowitzAnd see his next movesJun 29 21:22
schestowitzHe bombards me with tweetsJun 29 21:22
schestowitzAnd if pressured too much he threatens me via E-mailJun 29 21:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86167455285788672Jun 29 21:28
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It solidifies claims in the eyes of people who believe in conspiracy theories. Serious people care about the issues.Jun 29 21:28
schestowitzLOLJun 29 21:28
schestowitz"For a lobbyists *too*, you are not too bright, The more you speak out, the more exposed you make yourself. People are not stupid."Jun 29 21:29
MinceRsadly, people in general are stupidJun 29 21:30
schestowitz".@FOSSpatents mass-mailing journalists is not a real job, it's lobbying. You should get back to writing technical books,"Jun 29 21:32
schestowitzMinceR: politicians esp.Jun 29 21:32
schestowitzIf you wave some dollarsJun 29 21:32
MinceRvoters tend to be even stupider :>Jun 29 21:33
MinceRespecially in hungaristanJun 29 21:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86169906055352321Jun 29 21:36
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz People are smarter than you think and this chart shows it: http://t.co/Nc2ZvooJun 29 21:36
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Florian Mueller Twitter Stats - Twitter Counter .::. Size~: 23.32 KBJun 29 21:36
schestowitz"Don't send me charts and E-mail threats. These are just distractions. Answer the simple question."Jun 29 21:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86170933139750912Jun 29 21:37
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz By "doing his job" I don't defend his positions, which I said in the same tweet I disagree with. Cheap out-of-context quote.Jun 29 21:37
schestowitz'You said he was "doing his job" by pretending to be small business while being paid by Microsoft to push Microsoft's agendaJun 29 21:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86171703272669184Jun 29 21:39
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz The chart shows that your audience doesn't grow at all. Maybe you should try serious research, better analysis, less hypocrisyJun 29 21:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86171058335518720Jun 29 21:40
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz it's not about my opposition. I don't notice the FFII in any way as being a problem for what I do. it's about YOUR "allies".Jun 29 21:40
schestowitzAgain with the reflectionJun 29 21:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/86171980340015105Jun 29 21:42
TechrightsSocial@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz I will be sending question soon!Jun 29 21:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/86172153321492480Jun 29 21:42
TechrightsSocial@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz I know I am asking too much. Wud you like to write guest column/editorials for Muktware?Jun 29 21:42
schestowitzI can cross-post sometimesJun 29 21:42
schestowitzhttp://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/06/28/gilligans-island.html+Jun 29 21:46
TechrightsSocialError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not FoundJun 29 21:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86173092212256768Jun 29 21:46
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz As you can see I'm neither cornered nor scared. It's you who doesn't really want to address real (non-conspiracy-theory) issuesJun 29 21:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86174750791057408Jun 29 22:03
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Interesting that you say now I don't lie. Anyway, you see that your focus on conspiracy theories is misguided and pointless.Jun 29 22:03
schestowitzI meant, you cannot lie about your clients. Your use plausible denial because the EU has laws re disclosure, You mentioned those.Jun 29 22:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86178999394512896Jun 29 22:11
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz My real concern is that you say again and again you are anti-swpat and just don't want to admit there's no serious movement.Jun 29 22:11
schestowitzme: You're changing the subject againJun 29 22:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86179343998525440Jun 29 22:29
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz You easily applaud FFII and FSFE. But what to they do to influence patent legislation vs. IBM-style work on "open standards"?Jun 29 22:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86180240363225089Jun 29 22:29
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz "Changing" the subject from your perspective. But I never started a conversation about conspiracy theories. Only about issues.Jun 29 22:29
schestowitzYou never answered the simple question. Jun 29 22:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mikec1972/status/86183686378237952Jun 29 22:30
TechrightsSocial@mikec1972: @schestowitz  Bridge and back tomorrow?  520 mile round trip for a 1 hour meeting in Colchester today, MP3 dies after 2nd k of 10...twastardJun 29 22:30
schestowitzWhat time? Lunch?Jun 29 22:31
schestowitzScary.. http://i.imgur.com/qpg3o.jpgJun 29 22:44
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeJun 29 22:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86185558090596352Jun 29 22:44
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Not answering it has a useful side effect. People have to look at what I say and do and draw hopefully reasonable conclusions.Jun 29 22:44
schestowitzYes, people who look at what you say and do and draw reasonable conclusions write stuff like http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20110122054409107Jun 29 22:45
TechrightsSocialTitle: Groklaw - How Not to Get Snookered by Claims of "Proof" of Copyright Infringement - Updated .::. Size~: 56.64 KBJun 29 22:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wayneborean/status/86187380431790081Jun 29 22:46
TechrightsSocial@wayneborean: @schestowitz Just ignore @FOSSpatents, whenever I write an article I never quote him. He never gets the details right.Jun 29 22:46
schestowitzMore people need to know who his lobbyist client isJun 29 22:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/86188868415664128Jun 29 22:54
TechrightsSocial@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz In August there'll be 1 or 2 summary judgment motions in ORCL v GOOG re copyright infringement. I'll be proven right then.Jun 29 22:54
schestowitzRiiight...  http://iptarget.blogspot.com/2011/06/leverage-if-you-are-threatened-with.htmlJun 29 22:55
TechrightsSocialTitle: IP Target: Leverage If You Are Threatened with Patent Infringement (and why you should ignore FOSSpatents) .::. Size~: 70.69 KBJun 29 22:55
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/77639461Jun 29 22:56
TechrightsSocial@Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jun-11 21:49:27 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @FOSSpatents works for Microsoft. Any idiot can tell that. So can the EU complaints people.Jun 29 22:56
schestowitzThe journalists whom he mass-mails to inject quotes are sometimes bamboozled, stillJun 29 22:56

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