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| lee8oi | maybe they'll start working with wine or crossover office and try pushing thier programs more on other operating systems instead of fuggin up yet another windows version. | Jun 01 00:02 |
| lee8oi | one can dream anyways | Jun 01 00:02 |
| abeNd-org | ms will just keep making money off android | Jun 01 00:02 |
| abeNd-org | heck, they make more money off android than they do winmob7 anyways | Jun 01 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | at some point that will stop, Google will go after them | Jun 01 00:03 |
| lee8oi | lol wow | Jun 01 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its why MS does not dare sue Google directly | Jun 01 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | also notice since MS just came out of the antitrust watching, they immediately bought skype | Jun 01 00:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | a very anticompetitive move for a company just coming out of antitrust oversite | Jun 01 00:05 |
| lee8oi | I still think it would be wise for them to cooperate with wine and actually make another market for their programs. | Jun 01 00:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Jun 01 00:06 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but that gives up at least half their market | Jun 01 00:06 |
| lee8oi | maybe not. | Jun 01 00:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | windows, and then windows server | Jun 01 00:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | could MS Office live on for very long without Windows? | Jun 01 00:07 |
| lee8oi | ya I"m sure it could. Specially if it ran in other OS's. | Jun 01 00:07 |
| lee8oi | I think nobody stays at the top forever. either MS will soften up or they will go down in time. | Jun 01 00:08 |
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| lee8oi | It'll only be a matter of time before Other operating systems push a boundary that MS can't follow beyond. | Jun 01 00:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they already have | Jun 01 00:09 |
| lee8oi | there ya go | Jun 01 00:09 |
| lee8oi | so its already starting to happen. The inevitable downfall of Windows unless they can start coordinating with open source projects to ensure their software still has a future. | Jun 01 00:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but it makes little difference if you have NDA agreements with OEM's that windows only is to be installed | Jun 01 00:10 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | This is why I like Google ChromeOS and Android. Google might have enough influence, goodwill, and money to break the MS stanglehold on OEM's. | Jun 01 00:11 |
| lee8oi | Agreements for usage of the software, but I'm sure the companies reserve the right to make new choices for the best of the company. In recessions many sacrifices are made. | Jun 01 00:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | And that my friends is where we will see the real fast decline of MS | Jun 01 00:12 |
| lee8oi | ya. I believe it | Jun 01 00:12 |
| lee8oi | MS is showing its despration. But at least they have the xbox, and gaming market | Jun 01 00:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Vote! Who has your back? Which company should we add to our campaign: Dropbox or PayPal https://eff.org/r.15Y (or email activist@eff.org) | Jun 01 00:13 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | xbox, ugly consumer ripoff | Jun 01 00:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | rrod e74 scratched disks etc | Jun 01 00:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | 66% high failure rate at one point | Jun 01 00:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Even the former Soviet Union made better products | Jun 01 00:14 |
| lee8oi | lol | Jun 01 00:14 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | but it is the only thing they can point to that might make a few bucks outside of windows and office software. | Jun 01 00:15 |
| lee8oi | I'm running out of reasons to keep windows on my box. I'm using Mageia linux right now. With wine I was able to get most of the programs I couldn't get in linux. some I had to say farewell too. Like League of Legends. Can't run it in wine fer crap. | Jun 01 00:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] could someone talk to tis guy?! !qt is not deprecated; http://is.gd/v3Ks6Q real opensourceproject and used by !meego in future devel | Jun 01 00:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Free software is facing a monumental test | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 84.81 KB | Jun 01 00:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I have not run windows in a long time. Would put in virtualbox some, but last install of linux did not even bother with that. Those virtualbox installs, were there mostly to show windows users | Jun 01 00:18 |
| lee8oi | ya, Virtualbox uses a generic video card for guests. so half the time the games don't detect good enough video. | Jun 01 00:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Never really tried it for cutting edge games. | Jun 01 00:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | most people are not hard core gamers | Jun 01 00:19 |
| lee8oi | theres still a few really cool games that play good. Heroes of newerth is awsome alternative to League of Legends, and has a linux client. | Jun 01 00:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | used to like the sid meir games | Jun 01 00:20 |
| lee8oi | sid what games? | Jun 01 00:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Civilization mostly | Jun 01 00:21 |
| lee8oi | ah ok | Jun 01 00:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | we have Freeciv, which is good | Jun 01 00:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Civ 1 will play in dosbox | Jun 01 00:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Civ 2 will play in wine, but you need to safe very often as it locks up | Jun 01 00:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | At one time I had Civ 3 playing in crossover I think, but cannot get it to work now | Jun 01 00:23 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Civ4 works | Jun 01 00:23 |
| lee8oi | ever used playonlinux? | Jun 01 00:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I have installed it in the past | Jun 01 00:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Civ 3 is one of the harder ones to get working | Jun 01 00:25 |
| lee8oi | never tried it myself | Jun 01 00:25 |
| lee8oi | but ddo is a job to run in linux. can't even auto update. | Jun 01 00:26 |
| schestowitz | SOmeone from IBM won't be sleeping well tongith | Jun 01 00:27 |
| schestowitz | He blew it up tonight | Jun 01 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Was on the phoning calling from NY for like an hour | Jun 01 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Not letting me off the phone cause he's scared | Jun 01 00:27 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | ? | Jun 01 00:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Julian Assange interview: Why the US will stop at nothing to silence me . . http://is.gd/qjeHJx | Jun 01 00:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks Julian Assange interview: Why the US will stop at nothing to silence me . . . - Features, Life & Style - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk .::. Size~: 59.69 KB | Jun 01 00:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman’s Opinion On Dual Booting – “Defenestrate It” http://is.gd/C8qhI8 #dualboot #gnu #linux | Jun 01 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] PROTIP: have an account that isn't associated with an application (bcuz it was uninstalled, or not reinstalled after a restore) breaks email | Jun 01 00:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Richard Stallman’s Opinion On Dual Booting – “Defenestrate It” .::. Size~: 43.21 KB | Jun 01 00:31 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: you'll know soon | Jun 01 00:33 |
| schestowitz | I feel too bad for his family to do what I could... | Jun 01 00:33 |
| lee8oi | What. something is gonna hit the news about ibm soon? | Jun 01 00:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | outsourcing most likely | Jun 01 00:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/losnggeneration/status/75684183661494272 | Jun 01 00:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @losnggeneration: @schestowitz @michaellarabel Perhaps for general news. Linux for Devices seems to still be pretty strong for embedded devices coming out. | Jun 01 00:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Did someone sign this under my name again? I only signed this once: http://is.gd/Ys11sV had people fake me before in this site's petitions. | Jun 01 00:36 | |
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| schestowitz | iee you'll know | Jun 01 00:36 |
| schestowitz | lee8oi: no, not that | Jun 01 00:36 |
| lee8oi | oh | Jun 01 00:36 |
| schestowitz | But the guy I spoke to might have his job outsources | Jun 01 00:36 |
| schestowitz | *sed | Jun 01 00:36 |
| lee8oi | woop. sucks to be him huh. | Jun 01 00:37 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | One problem with dual booting windows with Linux is that if the windows system becomes infected, some malware can effectively overwrite the boot sector, which would mean reinstallation of grub. | Jun 01 00:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | So really Stallman is correct. | Jun 01 00:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The economy is much worst here than they tell people. | Jun 01 00:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/acer-microsoft-hardware-rules-very-troublesome/13089 | Jun 01 00:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Acer: Microsoft hardware rules 'very troublesome' | ZDNet .::. Size~: 119.94 KB | Jun 01 00:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ?They?re really controlling the whole thing, the whole process ? all feel it?s very troublesome.? | Jun 01 00:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "However, if the restrictions are designed to hobble tablets to prevent them cannibalizing Windows PC sales (something we?ve seen Microsoft do to netbooks), then that?s definitely not good for consumers." | Jun 01 00:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ask why Windows Tablets did not do well back in Gates day? They have been out for a long time. Could it be that Bill wanted them to run on a laptop that cost four times as much? Sure would make it easy to hide the price of windows on those. Fujitsu lifebooks were some of the old tablets or touch screen laptops | Jun 01 00:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS simply did not have any motive for tablets to replace the current model PC. Unless the price was more so they could raise the price of windows. | Jun 01 00:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | And we know how well those tablets sold | Jun 01 00:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It will be hard to hide the price of windows on a $200 computer | Jun 01 00:54 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | wow, looking at the first few comments at that article there is LoverockDavidson and Mr. Dee hard at work | Jun 01 00:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | both shameless M$ shills | Jun 01 00:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS hopes to control the hardware that is produced and therefore also what hardware that Android goes on as well. | Jun 01 00:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | This appears to be some sort of anticompetitive move by MS | Jun 01 01:00 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | the story where that came from: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-31/microsoft-hardware-rules-troublesome-for-makers-acer-says.html | Jun 01 01:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Hardware Rules ‘Troublesome’ for Makers, Acer Says - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 63.75 KB | Jun 01 01:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) is putting ?troublesome? restrictions on makers of processors used to run the coming Windows tablet-computer operating system, Acer Inc. (2353) Chairman and Chief Executive Officer J.T. Wang said." | Jun 01 01:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "?They?re really controlling the whole thing, the whole process,? Wang said at the Computex trade show in Taipei without identifying the restrictions. Chip suppliers and PC makers ?all feel it?s very troublesome,? he said." | Jun 01 01:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Microsoft is rushing to release a version of Windows compatible with chip technology from ARM Holdings Plc (ARM) so Windows-based tablet computers can compete with Apple?s iPad, which controls an estimated 64 percent of the tablet market." | Jun 01 01:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | notice the keyword here, rushing. MS is 'rushing' out windows 8 on an unwary public | Jun 01 01:09 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | but perhaps MS does it best work when they rush something out? After all they had 5 to 7 years to get Vista out the door, and it was still rushed. | Jun 01 01:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] did someone say #LCA2012 Call-for-miniconfs & Call-for-papers are coming out soon? better get those ideas together so you don't miss out! | Jun 01 01:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Retired #Republican senator goes to work for Goldman Sachs http://ur1.ca/4bfbf #terrorist | Jun 01 01:11 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | If they truely rush out a reused product like windows, they have less time to harm it | Jun 01 01:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Feds target top execs for health fraud http://ur1.ca/4bfbi #terrorists | Jun 01 01:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] US Supreme Court rules Ashcroft can't be held responsible in case of detention and abuse of innocent Muslim-American http://ur1.ca/4bfbl | Jun 01 01:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tunnel found under temple in Mexico http://ur1.ca/4bfbo !science | Jun 01 01:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] diablo-d3 Retired #Republican senator goes to work for Goldman Sachs http://ur1.ca/4bfbf #terrorist # <http://ff.im/EDDzJ> | Jun 01 01:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Canadian Music Industry Copyright Class Action Settled, fucks artists over badly http://ur1.ca/4bfbx | Jun 01 01:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Capturing Femtosecond Snapshots of Molecular Processes http://ur1.ca/4bfc7 !science | Jun 01 01:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Activists Destroy Scientific GMO Experiment http://ur1.ca/4bfcb | Jun 01 01:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tune In, Turn On, Drop Out – The Startup Genome Project http://ur1.ca/4bfcf | Jun 01 01:14 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://gizmodo.com/5807146/the-shape-of-windows-to-come | Jun 01 01:14 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "What people expect from tablets is completely different than what they expect from traditional PCs. No viruses, no OS reinstalls, no dead batteries, no bullshit, really. (I'm very obviously not talking about the Windows tablets of yore.) Say what you will about the iPad and its limitations, but at the same time, it has set a new kind of standard for what people should expect out from their personal computers in terms of | Jun 01 01:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maintenance and just being easy to use. If the new tablet Windows resembles old Windows more than Windows Phone or iOS in that regard, it's going to blow chunks. But I suspect, I hope, that Microsoft knows what it needs to do with tablet software." | Jun 01 01:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Dream on, its MS he is talking about | Jun 01 01:15 |
| ender2070 | nah its bad news to get people onto big brother tablets | Jun 01 01:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Green Crystal 'Rain' Discovered Near Infant Star http://ur1.ca/4bfci | Jun 01 01:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Time Lapse Sky Shows Earth Rotating Instead of Stars http://ur1.ca/4bfd3 | Jun 01 01:16 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "I also get the feeling Microsoft's going to try to launch the next Windows sooner than people suspect. Not supercrazy sooner. But earlier than has been implied." | Jun 01 01:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | On this I agree with him, been saying that MS needs it out in stores by Xmas | Jun 01 01:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | On this I agree with him, been saying that MS needs it out in stores by Xmas | Jun 01 01:17 |
| ender2070 | i dont | Jun 01 01:17 |
| ender2070 | we dont need more locked down hardware | Jun 01 01:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Peer To Patent: A Lawyers’ Solution to a Lawyers’ Problem http://is.gd/4b4wH4 #peertopatent #peer2patent #swpats #eu #ukipo | Jun 01 01:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Peer To Patent: A Lawyers’ Solution to a Lawyers’ Problem http://is.gd/4b4wH4 #europe #uk #monopoly #nyls !fsf !fsfe | Jun 01 01:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] There's no such thing as a jellyfish http://ur1.ca/4bfdg !science | Jun 01 01:18 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | so you fall into the camp of windows will come out next year? | Jun 01 01:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | you maybe right | Jun 01 01:18 |
| ender2070 | i dont honestly care | Jun 01 01:18 |
| ender2070 | i just dont want more big brother devices | Jun 01 01:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I only care from the point of view someone will ask me to fix windows | Jun 01 01:18 |
| ender2070 | I fix windows all the time | Jun 01 01:19 |
| ender2070 | its not hard | Jun 01 01:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, the 3 R's | Jun 01 01:19 |
| ender2070 | not with the bullshit reformatting | Jun 01 01:19 |
| ender2070 | only idiots do that | Jun 01 01:19 |
| ender2070 | which is why its the solution to most windows users problems | Jun 01 01:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | quicker sometimes than a heavily rootkitted infected machine | Jun 01 01:20 |
| ender2070 | it depends | Jun 01 01:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Have seen more machines that require days to clean up | Jun 01 01:20 |
| ender2070 | i never found myself getting that shit on my gaming partition | Jun 01 01:20 |
| ender2070 | days to clean up? | Jun 01 01:21 |
| ender2070 | noob | Jun 01 01:21 |
| ender2070 | 1 day for anything | Jun 01 01:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and I have come to the conclusion, its not worth days of my live to clean up windows | Jun 01 01:21 |
| ender2070 | if you're spending days then you might as well give up in IT | Jun 01 01:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and what do you use? | Jun 01 01:21 |
| gnufreex_ | Do you guys watch NBA finals? Dallas vs Miami, I am watching now. | Jun 01 01:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I use the free antivirus cd's available to scan with at first | Jun 01 01:22 |
| ender2070 | spybot search & destroy, SUPERantispyware, microsoft security essentials | Jun 01 01:22 |
| ender2070 | sometimes malwarebytes | Jun 01 01:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I don't use MSE | Jun 01 01:22 |
| ender2070 | then thats where you lose | Jun 01 01:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but the others and more | Jun 01 01:22 |
| ender2070 | ms has a lot of experience with malware | Jun 01 01:22 |
| ender2070 | ;) | Jun 01 01:22 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 01 01:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Acid oceans turn 'Finding Nemo' fish deaf http://ur1.ca/4bfer | Jun 01 01:23 | |
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| ender2070 | mse was #1 last year for a while as well, not anymore but at least its free and doesnt harass the user with ads | Jun 01 01:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, time must be passing me by, a MS product that is any good??? who would have thought that | Jun 01 01:24 |
| ender2070 | that list of programs are something I use when someone else is heavily infected | Jun 01 01:24 |
| ender2070 | I don't get viruses | Jun 01 01:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | niether do I | Jun 01 01:24 |
| ender2070 | I got one virus in my entire life, for DOS | Jun 01 01:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | at least when I still ran windows | Jun 01 01:24 |
| ender2070 | the junkie virus | Jun 01 01:24 |
| ender2070 | i've been doing malware removal on windows commercially forever | Jun 01 01:25 |
| ender2070 | $100 per removal $$$$$ | Jun 01 01:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Now if they bring me a windows machine to fix, I offer to install Linux for them | Jun 01 01:25 |
| ender2070 | why would a small business have an incentive to push Linux, it means they don't make money repairing computers | Jun 01 01:26 |
| ender2070 | Linux just works | Jun 01 01:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I am not a small business anymore, but I agree with you | Jun 01 01:26 |
| ender2070 | microsoft has created a job market for fixing its problems | Jun 01 01:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Moving ot Linux would put 85% of the small mom and pop computer stores out of business that depend on cleaning up windows malware | Jun 01 01:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, they all depend on that | Jun 01 01:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It would even hurt Best Buy's Geek Squad bottom line | Jun 01 01:28 |
| ender2070 | yeah geek squad and nerd squad do the same thing but charge 4-5-6x more | Jun 01 01:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Brandon, I have seen some incrediably infected windows machines in my day | Jun 01 01:29 |
| ender2070 | so have I | Jun 01 01:29 |
| ender2070 | when I first started doing it, yes there were cases where it took me more than one day | Jun 01 01:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I spent 3 on one | Jun 01 01:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | no more | Jun 01 01:30 |
| ender2070 | However after I found a pattern and made a rhythm I just mowed through them | Jun 01 01:30 |
| ender2070 | I would do four at once just running scans all day | Jun 01 01:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Have a friend here that also does this for a living. He says that Vista and Seven are more painful to clean up. | Jun 01 01:30 |
| ender2070 | I'd argue the opposite | Jun 01 01:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | You don't run the live cd antivirus scans first? | Jun 01 01:31 |
| ender2070 | The only painful ones I've ever seen were pirated and had half the system protection turned off for their cracks | Jun 01 01:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Most windows users pirate something | Jun 01 01:31 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jun 01 01:32 |
| ender2070 | based on my own experience i've never seen a windows user NOT pirate something | Jun 01 01:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I have a relative that came close to not pirating | Jun 01 01:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | anything | Jun 01 01:33 |
| ender2070 | what did she cave on | Jun 01 01:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS Office | Jun 01 01:33 |
| ender2070 | ahh silly | Jun 01 01:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | had to have it, not sure why | Jun 01 01:33 |
| ender2070 | I'd ALWAYS hated office | Jun 01 01:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | me too | Jun 01 01:34 |
| ender2070 | I wouldn't even use a licensed copy if someone gave it to me | Jun 01 01:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | a bad piece of spyware it is | Jun 01 01:34 |
| ender2070 | Ill use windows for games but have no use whatsoever for a crappy office suite | Jun 01 01:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | bloated badly left out in the sun, MS Office that is | Jun 01 01:34 |
| ender2070 | I'd rather use wordperfect | Jun 01 01:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not even for games | Jun 01 01:34 |
| ender2070 | wine & cedega are too slow | Jun 01 01:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | depends on the game | Jun 01 01:35 |
| ender2070 | yes but I want them all to run properly | Jun 01 01:35 |
| ender2070 | without filing tickets and paying bounties | Jun 01 01:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I want native games | Jun 01 01:35 |
| ender2070 | I want native games too | Jun 01 01:36 |
| ender2070 | it would be really cool to get world of warcraft on linux | Jun 01 01:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Now if our gov here in the states ever got its head out of the sand, and online poker became legal | Jun 01 01:37 |
| ender2070 | oh no | Jun 01 01:37 |
| ender2070 | not a good idea | Jun 01 01:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | oh yes | Jun 01 01:37 |
| ender2070 | thats where a lot of the spyware comes from | Jun 01 01:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | spyware comes from everywhere on windows | Jun 01 01:37 |
| ender2070 | yeah but the casino's in ontario are already bad enough | Jun 01 01:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the legit poker sites do not have malware on them | Jun 01 01:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | at least you Canadian's are still free enough that you have the right to be able to choose to play online if that is where you want to spend your money | Jun 01 01:39 |
| ender2070 | gambling isn't so great | Jun 01 01:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I did not say that | Jun 01 01:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | prohibition might also be good for us | Jun 01 01:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but not so great either | Jun 01 01:39 |
| ender2070 | I know someone who went to a casino, won, then went home and got pulled over by a cop who offered a choice of two tickets, one being a higher ticket for one thing and the other ticket being lower for something else | Jun 01 01:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its a question about freedom | Jun 01 01:40 |
| ender2070 | after that, when they went to pay the ticket: had to buy new stickers, get the car recertified environmentally, plus the ticket. | Jun 01 01:41 |
| ender2070 | added up higher than the casino winnings | Jun 01 01:41 |
| ender2070 | then they were told they didnt have proof that the ticket was paid for | Jun 01 01:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, cheaper to stay at home and play on the internet? Is this your point? | Jun 01 01:42 |
| ender2070 | no | Jun 01 01:42 |
| ender2070 | im pointing out collusion between the police and casino's | Jun 01 01:42 |
| ender2070 | you win at a casino and the system finds a way to get it back | Jun 01 01:42 |
| ender2070 | a number of people who won millions ended up losing it just as fast as they received it | Jun 01 01:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NBC News Produces Propaganda Video Highlighting NBC's Views On Domain Seizures http://is.gd/dJ00ME | Jun 01 01:43 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | when gambling opened in Colorado the cops setup along the roads to the casino. Even stopped people to check for drinking. One drink and they got you | Jun 01 01:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | as in roadblocks | Jun 01 01:43 |
| ender2070 | oh they checked for alcohol | Jun 01 01:43 |
| ender2070 | the cop was probably pissed | Jun 01 01:44 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but the casino's were not in colusion | Jun 01 01:44 |
| ender2070 | its a tollgating system | Jun 01 01:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Motorola Mobility, Inc. joined W3C - Motorola Mobility, Inc. joined as a new W3C Member. http://ow.ly/1cYDHX | Jun 01 01:46 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Now back to that article. | Jun 01 01:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "The next Windows on tablets very badly needs to not be stupid. It needs to be amazing. It needs to surprise people. I think that's what Microsoft is setting up. Maybe I'm mistaking hopes for educated suspicions, but Microsoft's got a lot more to lose on this wager than I do." | Jun 01 01:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I would say in order for MS to make Windows 8 for Arm malware free they will have to control how users install software. An approved scanned App market. | Jun 01 01:48 |
| ender2070 | Big Brother | Jun 01 01:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | So it will probably only be able to run NET apps | Jun 01 01:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Help Internet activists protect their #privacy and anonymity. Join @EFF & @Torproject in the #Torchallenge! https://eff.org/r.58x | Jun 01 01:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Huge WikiLeaks special in the Belfast Telegraph: http://is.gd/DjrtxD | Jun 01 01:49 | |
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| ender2070 | I hear i2p is the protocol to use for file sharing | Jun 01 01:50 |
| ender2070 | these days | Jun 01 01:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Can you see any other way for MS to compete in this market? | Jun 01 01:50 |
| ender2070 | ms should give up | Jun 01 01:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | greed does never give up | Jun 01 01:50 |
| ender2070 | just let the guys who make laptops turn one into a convertable tablet/laptop | Jun 01 01:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Was @fabsh saying "heehaw" near beginning of !lo 209 ? #ItsAWonderfulLife cc: @bkuhn | Jun 01 01:51 | |
| ender2070 | from a normal win8 desktop | Jun 01 01:51 |
| ender2070 | should be x86_64 | Jun 01 01:51 |
| ender2070 | that way linux can replace it | Jun 01 01:52 |
| ender2070 | any linux | Jun 01 01:52 |
| ender2070 | or even bsd or os/2 if you were nutty | Jun 01 01:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | still perhaps an improvement over windose | Jun 01 01:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | bsd for sure | Jun 01 01:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | OS/2 on a tablet would be interesting | Jun 01 01:54 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jun 01 01:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I once ran OS/2 Warp 3 on dialup for awhile, it screamed compared to windows | Jun 01 01:55 |
| ender2070 | I had it for a little while | Jun 01 01:55 |
| ender2070 | on floppy disk | Jun 01 01:55 |
| ender2070 | it was a brutal reinstall | Jun 01 01:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, but so were some of the windows versions as well | Jun 01 01:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | OS/2 used that double reboot and install thing | Jun 01 01:56 |
| ender2070 | dos was rather fast | Jun 01 01:56 |
| ender2070 | 3 floppies | Jun 01 01:56 |
| ender2070 | windows 3.11 on 7 or 8 | Jun 01 01:56 |
| ender2070 | os/2 had 30+ | Jun 01 01:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | there were too many disks to install on floppies for OS/2 | Jun 01 01:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I still have cd's somewhere | Jun 01 01:57 |
| ender2070 | the bonus pack was like 10 floppies | Jun 01 01:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | used to buy OS/2 Warp 3 at second hand stores, it was cheaper than buying new floppy disks | Jun 01 01:58 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 01 01:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | IBM wanted 3x the price of windows 95 | Jun 01 01:58 |
| ender2070 | yeah that was dumb | Jun 01 01:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and was not smart enough to discount the price and go after the home user | Jun 01 01:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | started with MSDos 3.21 | Jun 01 01:59 |
| ender2070 | how different the world would be | Jun 01 01:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Gates and Microsoft ‘Love’ Children in America http://is.gd/HscSd5 #Cablegate #wikileaks #ifwl #america #microsoft #windows | Jun 01 01:59 | |
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| ender2070 | my first dos was 6.22 | Jun 01 01:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but I had an old Victor machine with MSDOS 1.25 | Jun 01 01:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SEJeff/status/75720331049959424 | Jun 01 02:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @SEJeff: @schestowitz @phoronix lwn.net perhaps? I see the readers of @lwnnet a bit more seasoned overall than random @ubuntu joe reading p | Jun 01 02:00 |
| schestowitz | I like Phoronix more than LWN, which also uses paywalls (a shame IMHO) | Jun 01 02:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes the world would be different, although IBM has its own evil | Jun 01 02:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Gates and Microsoft ‘Love’ Children in America http://is.gd/HscSd5 #monopoly #school #education #canada #toronto #backdoor | Jun 01 02:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I can't believe I just let myself be #Asayroll ed | Jun 01 02:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] British Labels Propagandizing To Children http://is.gd/s52dJR #ShedRecords | Jun 01 02:01 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | But their operating system would be better, and more bug free | Jun 01 02:01 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75035399 | Jun 01 02:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jeremy D Acord (jdac)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 00:29:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Funny, Stallman and I have the same policy on dual-booting. #fsckthat | Jun 01 02:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] An insight into how Japan is coping with power shortfalls etc - http://ur1.ca/4bfnl | Jun 01 02:03 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | MS will release W8 for ARM in time for XMAS sale, IMO. W8 for INt | Jun 01 02:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Intel, maybe not | Jun 01 02:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @fontana pray tell what happened :-)? | Jun 01 02:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Fedora 16 to run Linux kernel 3.0. Nice. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=245650 | Jun 01 02:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #EMI Exec Thinks You Shouldn't Be Able To Listen To Your Own Music Without Paying Again http://is.gd/TNzAG8 | Jun 01 02:08 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | So the question is, When will Android 3.0 be fully open source released for ARM Tablet OEM's? | Jun 01 02:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Will MS be able to use the NET apps created for WP7 to work on Windows 8 Desktop for ARM? And how many of those apps will convert over and be useful on a different form factor? Google has already run into this with Android 3.0 | Jun 01 02:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | gn all | Jun 01 02:12 |
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| ender2070 | I suspect windows was designed on purpose to be easily infested by the unaware user | Jun 01 02:25 |
| ender2070 | That way the US can spy on its citizens while Microsoft can claim deniability | Jun 01 02:26 |
| ender2070 | The US can blame it on hackers | Jun 01 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Windows is defective mostly so they can spy on users in countries where they can't just get a (secret) court order to monitor everything they do | Jun 01 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | there's a few of those and they largely use pirated Microsoft software | Jun 01 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | but it also removes one obstacle to their spying that users in the US could control | Jun 01 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | whether their operating system would take orders from the police or not | Jun 01 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | Windows will | Jun 01 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | in act, even Windows disk encryption is designed with backdoors for the police | Jun 01 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | *fact | Jun 01 02:30 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Jun 01 02:30 |
| ender2070 | I remember | Jun 01 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2011/06/01/mandriva-2011-beta3/ | Jun 01 02:32 |
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| DaemonFC | "- from now on, the image contains non-free software for improved desktop experience, such as dkms drivers and non-free firmware for improved out-of-the-box functionality of peripheral devices" | Jun 01 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jun 01 02:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Sincere thanks to @rysiekpl and @neoeinstein - digital defenders who set up Tor nodes for the #TorChallenge . https://eff.org/r.58Z | Jun 01 02:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft is Distorting the Hardware Market to Harm #Linux Again http://is.gd/1PEF6A #acer #android #hardware #antitrust | Jun 01 02:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft is Distorting the Hardware Market to Harm !Lnux Again http://is.gd/1PEF6A #tablet #netbook #abuse #ricoact | Jun 01 02:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/31/house-gop-eyes-medicare-f_n_869468.html | Jun 01 02:41 |
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| DaemonFC | Everything is "on the table" (as long as it only affects the working poor. | Jun 01 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | Why don't they stop subsidizing reproduction and buying foreign cars? | Jun 01 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 02:42 |
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| dfsdfada | fuk ya | Jun 01 02:43 |
| dfsdfada | free speech | Jun 01 02:43 |
| dfsdfada | nigger nigger igger | Jun 01 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | go back to your cheesecake | Jun 01 02:44 |
| dfsdfada | i dont eat cheesecake | Jun 01 02:45 |
| dfsdfada | Daemon: are you against freedom of speech? | Jun 01 02:45 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75019647 | Jun 01 02:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 31-May-11 19:27:04 UTC - Identi.ca: "This is what usually happens to companies that "partner" or make deals with MS. Novell would be another example." ~M | Jun 01 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | dfsdfada: I think people should be free to say what they think if they're willing to live with the consequences. | Jun 01 02:45 |
| dfsdfada | what kind of consequences | Jun 01 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | freedom of speech only protects you from the government, in *some* cases | Jun 01 02:46 |
| ThistleWeb | troll alert | Jun 01 02:46 |
| schestowitz | dfsdfada: if you came here just to troll, this is a warning | Jun 01 02:46 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: yeah, noticed | Jun 01 02:46 |
| dfsdfada | nah | Jun 01 02:47 |
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| DaemonFC | according to his IP address, he is in Canada | Jun 01 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070 should stop by and say hi | Jun 01 02:48 |
| schestowitz | what IP does that translate to? | Jun 01 02:49 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 01 02:49 |
| schestowitz | oh, | Jun 01 02:49 |
| schestowitz | It's not mibbit | Jun 01 02:49 |
| schestowitz | So it's plain IP | Jun 01 02:49 |
| ender2070 | no idea | Jun 01 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | his ISP is Rogers | Jun 01 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | I understand that to be like the Canadian version of Comcast | Jun 01 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | only worse | Jun 01 02:49 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Jun 01 02:50 |
| ender2070 | true | Jun 01 02:50 |
| schestowitz | It's ***tastic | Jun 01 02:50 |
| ender2070 | they were first to throttle | Jun 01 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They sell you the 12 Mbps plan then they say it comes with "Powerboost", which in their 8 pages of EULA means that you only get that bandwidth for the first minute you're downloading something then it gets cut in half | Jun 01 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | it's there to make pages and videos load faster | Jun 01 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | but you go to download something like an ISO image and you get half the bandwidth they advertised | Jun 01 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast this is :) | Jun 01 02:52 |
| schestowitz | What does he say? http://tinyogg.com/watch/SImji/ | Jun 01 02:52 |
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| ender2070 | Bell is pretty bad too | Jun 01 02:52 |
| ender2070 | they're the shady telco | Jun 01 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | makes it look like they win the bandwidth number war with the phone company | Jun 01 02:52 |
| schestowitz | worst job ever | Jun 01 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | then you find out that not only is it not faster than DSL, it averages $17 a month more | Jun 01 02:52 |
| schestowitz | holding up a laptop like a mannequin in a suit | Jun 01 02:52 |
| ender2070 | Bell makes money off of everyone who uses DSL, even third party ISPs | Jun 01 02:53 |
| ender2070 | They've been fighting to allow themselves to raise the prices | Jun 01 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | right, in the US there's AT&T and Verizon, they each get exclusive areas given to them by the government so there's no competition | Jun 01 02:54 |
| ender2070 | at least with rogers if you move somewhere else you might get cogeco | Jun 01 02:54 |
| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/VzQE9/ | Jun 01 02:54 |
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| DaemonFC | then they basically sublease their DSL services out to dozens of smaller companies so it looks like you have choice | Jun 01 02:54 |
| ender2070 | yes | Jun 01 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | even though there's no way for them to be cheaper than AT&T | Jun 01 02:54 |
| ender2070 | its government mandated | Jun 01 02:54 |
| ender2070 | the tax payers built the network | Jun 01 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | I was looking at a local ISP that said they had ADSL services, turns out they go through AT&T and the same package is $7 a month more | Jun 01 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | what exactly are they doing? | Jun 01 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's AT&T with a different name on the bill, and it's more expensive | Jun 01 02:55 |
| ender2070 | lol | Jun 01 02:56 |
| ender2070 | our third party's are cheaper though | Jun 01 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | of course AT&T's customer support is such a nightmare that it would be nice to have some other company to call | Jun 01 02:56 |
| ender2070 | Bell wants to make them charge what Bell does | Jun 01 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | just so you don't get 12 listings for AT&T and end up calling the wrong AT&T | Jun 01 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | I've called Ohio, Florida, Oregon, and California by mistake trying to get in touch with customer support | Jun 01 02:57 |
| ender2070 | no country wide number? | Jun 01 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | then when you do get the right number, you're on hold forever | Jun 01 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | and it says you're not recognized as a customer | Jun 01 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | because you only have dry DSL and you don't get a phone number with that :) | Jun 01 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't accept your account number, I've tried | Jun 01 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | so you get to smack the keypad until it sends you to the wrong people | Jun 01 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | they put you on hold again | Jun 01 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | and if the system doesn't hang up on you.... | Jun 01 02:58 |
| ender2070 | they do t hat on purpose so you get the phone line too | Jun 01 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | you may get to the right person | Jun 01 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: What they don't tell you is if you call after hours it will send you to their overnight support center right away | Jun 01 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | and if it's a technical, not billing issue, you end up talking to someone in 5 minutes vs half an hour | Jun 01 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: I got shifted around for 3 hours before I got someone that could tell me the PPPoE settings for my modem | Jun 01 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | the rest asked me to use the Windows software on the welcome CD, which I didn't have because I bought my own modem | Jun 01 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | one of them asked if Linux was some kind of a Mac | Jun 01 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | finally I stopped being polite and told them if they gave me the login information for my account I could press a button and be on their network and not their problem anymore | Jun 01 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Jun 01 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | these ISPs are doing their damndest to make activating your modem something you can only do with Windows | Jun 01 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | I gave up arguing with Comcast after they swapped my modem for the 3rd time and just ran their "welcome" software in Wine and then deleted that Wine prefix | Jun 01 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | they like that software because it gives them a chance to hijack your browser and stuff toolbars in and run spyware in your Windows system tray | Jun 01 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | ISPs are the devil | Jun 01 03:05 |
| schestowitz | Daemon is the devil | Jun 01 03:06 |
| schestowitz | And Diablo-D3 | Jun 01 03:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 31/5/2011: Pardus 2011.1, Openoffice.org Petition http://is.gd/j8QG1E !techrights | Jun 01 03:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 31/5/2011: Pardus 2011.1, Openoffice.org Petition http://is.gd/j8QG1E #techrights | Jun 01 03:06 | |
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| schestowitz | and PR agents | Jun 01 03:06 |
| schestowitz | I confronted one today | Jun 01 03:06 |
| *DaemonFC gets schestowitz an appointment with a Mac Genius | Jun 01 03:06 | |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 01 03:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | what? | Jun 01 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Opera protects itself from Linux Mint now. It won't allow their hijacked broken Google search | Jun 01 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | the only search engines Opera accepts are the ones it came with or the ones the user added | Jun 01 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | speaking of browser hijacking :) | Jun 01 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | Linux Mint has been doing that for a while | Jun 01 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | it really is just the next best thing to Windows | Jun 01 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | they saved you the trouble of finding hijacker software and shipped Firefox that way | Jun 01 03:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: saying Mac genius is like saying Chiro healer :0-) | Jun 01 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's not that it comes that way that offends me, it's that they've done it in such a way that it makes it very hard to pry it out and get back the real Google with suggestions and images and maps and so on | Jun 01 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | they could have made it a package that can be removed or a Firefox extension that can be disabled | Jun 01 03:10 |
| schestowitz | so easy even a GOnad can use it | Jun 01 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | they chose to make it extremely hard to pry out and they ban users and silently remove posts when people ask how to fix it on their forum | Jun 01 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 03:10 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yo momma is so easy even a Gonad can do her | Jun 01 03:11 |
| *DaemonFC has Gonad's grandson try to rape schestowitz | Jun 01 03:12 | |
| DaemonFC | sure schestowitz will kick i=his ass probably, but it should be funny either way | Jun 01 03:12 |
| *DaemonFC gets popcorn | Jun 01 03:12 | |
| DaemonFC | *his | Jun 01 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Have you ever noticed that criminal behavior seems to just flow through some families, but you have other families that couldn't be more different than one another. | Jun 01 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | both are anecdotal | Jun 01 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | it makes the idea of a genetic link to behavior frustratingly believable and difficult to prove at the same time | Jun 01 03:14 |
| schestowitz | or indifferent | Jun 01 03:14 |
| ender2070 | some families breed for psychopathy | Jun 01 03:14 |
| schestowitz | respons expectation | Jun 01 03:14 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: some for greed | Jun 01 03:15 |
| schestowitz | scoring children by wealth | Jun 01 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: You mean, two scumbags get together and pass a double dose of scumbag on their offspring | Jun 01 03:15 |
| ender2070 | same trait | Jun 01 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | and so there's a good chance it will be a scumbag too | Jun 01 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jun 01 03:15 |
| ender2070 | thats why cops are such assholes today | Jun 01 03:15 |
| ender2070 | the problem increased exponentially | Jun 01 03:15 |
| ender2070 | police families | Jun 01 03:16 |
| schestowitz | whivch means threy would be willing to do unethical things to score by the parents | Jun 01 03:16 |
| ender2070 | I had to be a cop cause my dad was a cop | Jun 01 03:16 |
| ender2070 | and his dad was a cop | Jun 01 03:16 |
| schestowitz | wife beaters? | Jun 01 03:16 |
| schestowitz | and nepotism for joining | Jun 01 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Too many alpha males who aren't really all that bright, carrying high powered assault rifles, and claiming they have a right to uphold the law | Jun 01 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | and no it's not the Michigan Militia | Jun 01 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 03:16 |
| ender2070 | plus the police pump them up with steroids now | Jun 01 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | these people really are agents of the state | Jun 01 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | so their testicles are smaller targets for suspects? | Jun 01 03:17 |
| ender2070 | fighting terrorists who don't recycle their paper properly | Jun 01 03:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Congratulations to Ricky Elrod, aka CodeBlock, recipient of the 2011 !Fedora scholarship! http://2tu.us/3cnt | Jun 01 03:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: congrats to Ricky Elrod! | Ian Weller’s blog .::. Size~: 12.85 KB | Jun 01 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Pick up the newspaper..... | Jun 01 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | *bang* You all saw him, he had a newspaper! | Jun 01 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | an unrecycled newspaper! | Jun 01 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | that could have been 5% of a box of general mills cereal | Jun 01 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | you bastard! | Jun 01 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 01 03:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ♻ @fedora: Congratulations to Ricky Elrod, aka CodeBlock, recipient of the 2011 #Fedora scholarship! http://2tu.us/3cnt | Jun 01 03:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: congrats to Ricky Elrod! | Ian Weller’s blog .::. Size~: 12.85 KB | Jun 01 03:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I felt incredibly stupid at not being able to find my @CreateSpace estore until I saw the forum | Jun 01 03:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Debian.org website is licensed under #OPL ?! #Barbaric !disturbing !puzzling #Debian | Jun 01 03:28 | |
| schestowitz |  | Jun 01 03:31 |
| schestowitz | [03:16] <ender2070> plus the police pump them up with steroids now | Jun 01 03:31 |
| schestowitz | Got proof of that? | Jun 01 03:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Is the #OPL even #DFSG-compliant ? #Debian | Jun 01 03:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Massive Copyright Class Action Settlement Approved: Record Labels to Pay $50 Million http://is.gd/jmLZUu #copyright #cartel | Jun 01 03:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Patient abuse caught on film labelled 'torture' http://is.gd/FXkp6J | Jun 01 03:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 01 03:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Patient abuse caught on film labelled 'torture' .::. Size~: 69.36 KB | Jun 01 03:31 |
| schestowitz | I herad from a friend who was wit NATO that they gave them drugs | Jun 01 03:31 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/75625006616428544 | Jun 01 03:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rcweir: Disappointing to see so-called open source proponents desperately trying to squash an open source project. It must be Tuesday. | Jun 01 03:33 |
| schestowitz | Byfield? | Jun 01 03:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Teenage victim becomes a symbol for #Syria's revolution http://is.gd/P0k5mb | Jun 01 03:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Teenage victim becomes a symbol for Syria's revolution | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 96.48 KB | Jun 01 03:36 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/SEJeff/status/75739806566588416 | Jun 01 03:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @SEJeff: @schestowitz sure phronix is good, but the @lwnnet articles are much more in-depth and technical than "foo is faster than bar" | Jun 01 03:36 |
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| DaemonFC | Phoronix is unreliable | Jun 01 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | Steam is only on Linux if you use Wine, and even then it has problems | Jun 01 03:38 |
| schestowitz | LOL another publication calls RMS "linux creator" | Jun 01 03:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/05/31/3087948/linux-creator-cancels-israel-talks | Jun 01 03:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux creator cites PA pressure in nixing Israel talks | JTA - Jewish & Israel News .::. Size~: 33.96 KB | Jun 01 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | he's been saying there's a Linux port since 2007 | Jun 01 03:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "UPDATE: Sources tell me that Apache has decided to take on OpenOffice." http://is.gd/XO3cYP | Jun 01 03:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Washington moves to classify cyber-attacks as acts of war http://is.gd/8E5TFo - Does this include cyber- attacks carried out BY the US? | Jun 01 03:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What the heck is happening with OpenOffice? (UPDATE) | ZDNet .::. Size~: 138.95 KB | Jun 01 03:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Washington moves to classify cyber-attacks as acts of war | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 190.01 KB | Jun 01 03:43 |
| schestowitz | hope> ad hits | Jun 01 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They probably do have a private copy of a Linux client, but that could mean anything | Jun 01 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | maybe one of the developers has a private copy for himself that will never be released | Jun 01 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Steam statistics are probably skewed by Wine actually | Jun 01 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | Wine would say a user is running Windows XP probably | Jun 01 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | so it's counting Wine users as Windows XP users on their statistics site | Jun 01 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | you can probably get a decent idea of Wine users in the percentage of users with "unknown" graphics cards | Jun 01 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | because it can't successfully probe that in Wine | Jun 01 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | going by that 2-3% of Steam users are using Wine | Jun 01 03:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb Teenage victim becomes a symbol for #Syria's revolution http://is.gd/P0k5mb | Jun 01 03:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Teenage victim becomes a symbol for Syria's revolution | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 96.39 KB | Jun 01 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | is 2-3% more sales worth creating and having to support an entirely new client and problems customers are likely to have with the varying quality of video drivers for Linux? | Jun 01 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | among other things | Jun 01 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | I'd say they'd do better to just keep it running happily on Wine and not officially support doing that | Jun 01 03:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.securityweek.com/pbs-sites-hacked-attackers-publish-false-news-story-and-publish-login-data http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.pbs.org | Jun 01 03:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PBS Sites Hacked: Attackers Publish False News Story and Login Data | SecurityWeek.Com .::. Size~: 36.38 KB | Jun 01 03:56 |
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| DaemonFC | http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ | Jun 01 03:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steam Hardware & Software Survey .::. Size~: 127.13 KB | Jun 01 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jun 01 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | 63% of Steam users have Firefox as their default browser | Jun 01 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | 97% of them have Flash | Jun 01 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | 53% have Silverlight (probably through trojan install) | Jun 01 03:58 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Jun 01 03:59 |
| schestowitz | And Silver Lie is dying | Jun 01 03:59 |
| schestowitz | It's no longer even mentioned in the press | Jun 01 03:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Based on this http://is.gd/VhzdD0 (Cyber Combat: Act of War) the Pentagon admits being a "terrorist" | Jun 01 03:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | 20% of their users still run Windows XP, 23% for Vista, about half run Windows 7 | Jun 01 04:01 |
| abeNd-org | the local fire dept's emergency response software is built on silverlight | Jun 01 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | that doesn't jive with the hardware though | Jun 01 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | most of the hardware reported is inadequate to run Windows Vista or 7 | Jun 01 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | and if it does, I'd hate to try to game on it | Jun 01 04:02 |
| abeNd-org | that didnt stop hp/dell/etc from selling computers that said they could run vista | Jun 01 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | the high number of Windows 7 users can be explained by people gaming PCs | Jun 01 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | but the hardware stats don't back this up | Jun 01 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | most estimates have Windows XP with 50-60% of Windows users | Jun 01 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | people hesitate to upgrade because Windows is expensive and would likely not run at all without buying a new PC | Jun 01 04:05 |
| abeNd-org | here ya go, http://esosolutions.com/software/eso-pro-mobile/ your fire dept/ems probably uses that, so your life depends on silverlight ;) | Jun 01 04:05 |
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| DaemonFC | it's not something you just leap to the new version of :) | Jun 01 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | One does not simply walk into Vista7. | Jun 01 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | (They must be pushed) | Jun 01 04:06 |
| abeNd-org | most people move to whatever the next version of windows is when their old computer gets so gummed up & slow, that spending the money to fix it would be better spend getting newer/faster hardware | Jun 01 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | abeNd-org: ZOMG SPYWARE!!! dammit! now I have to buy a new Dell. | Jun 01 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | shit! | Jun 01 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 04:07 |
| abeNd-org | pretty much | Jun 01 04:07 |
| abeNd-org | since most people dont know how to clean it up themselves, they accidentally take it to geeksquad who charge them $300+ to "clean" it up | Jun 01 04:08 |
| abeNd-org | thats like charging $3000 for an oil change..the average consumer would rather trade their old car in & take the $3000 & put it towards a down payment on a new car | Jun 01 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | I gave away my old 8 GB Sansa View | Jun 01 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | no Ogg/FLAC support so I no longer have a use for it | Jun 01 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | the Fuze has those | Jun 01 04:17 |
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| DaemonFC | I finally finished re-ripping everything | Jun 01 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 01 04:18 |
| abeNd-org | i still have my little sansa clip, it does mp3/wma, which is what i need to listen to legally downloaded audiobooks from my local libraries | Jun 01 04:18 |
| abeNd-org | you didnt try rockbox on your sansa view? | Jun 01 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't support it | Jun 01 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | it has initial support for my Fuze but it breaks some things and it's not considered stable | Jun 01 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | so I still use the official firmware | Jun 01 04:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oscar Wilde was brilliant... still is, actually http://ur1.ca/4bgok via @encyclomundi | Jun 01 04:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb Washington moves to classify cyber-attacks as acts of war http://is.gd/8E5TFo - Does this include cyber- attacks carried ... | Jun 01 04:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Jösses Amalia, kan inte nog rekommendera "Bitar till kaffet"; ljuv chipmusik, ljuv Amigamusik, ljuv östgötska! http://ur1.ca/4bgqg #podcast | Jun 01 04:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Jun 01 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | abeNd-org: Turns out this Sansa is now supported | Jun 01 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | I just installed Rockbox on it | Jun 01 04:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Oh my, the theme for "International Karate" is even more brilliant than I remembered it. http://youtu.be/jzlK_JNuOGE #nerdgasm | Jun 01 04:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | one less piece of nonfree software | Jun 01 04:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Yes, I know. It 'dedicates' it to the !publicdomain which is absurd. Creators should be able to choose the disposition of our work. | Jun 01 04:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] In response to the haters on my recent choice of a !webos phone over android: http://ur1.ca/4bgt1 | Jun 01 04:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Oh damnit, ur1.ca, screw off. | Jun 01 04:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] In response to the haters on my recent choice of a @palm !webos phone over android: http://ur1.ca/4bgtn | Jun 01 04:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why I'm a Bad Freetard -- Or the Quest for a New Phone - rrix@TheStaff .::. Size~: 20.01 KB | Jun 01 04:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @rrix I'm having problems reaching the other end of that link. The suspense! | Jun 01 04:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke even without having a clue what you are talking about, that was funny. | Jun 01 04:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @clacke ur1.ca fuxed my link. I think I've bugged @support for that, previously but whatever. The latest tweet to the webos group has a link | Jun 01 04:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Oh, god, ryan's blagging, this can only mean angst and rage from everyone involved. | Jun 01 04:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Do you have a fantastic blog that showcases Ubuntu LoCo Team content? Let us know! http://is.gd/DoDlg4 #ubuntu #locoteams | Jun 01 05:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @zooko Spambots will be the first programs to pass the Turing Test. Then they'll be the first programs to take over the world and ens ... | Jun 01 05:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke if you have to "shhh" your socks, it's time to do laundry. | Jun 01 05:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @rrix Oh. The problem seems to be that my (#ipv6 native) proxy can't connect to your host. http://199.68.30.129/index.php/Badfreetard works. | Jun 01 05:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @clacke Oh. That reminds me, I need to fix my ipv6 dns :) | Jun 01 05:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @clacke Narrowed it down: your [ipv6]:80 refuses connections. Firefox native retries [ipv4]:80 and succeeds. Firefox+SOCKS can't do that. | Jun 01 05:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @rrix Ah. Well, that explains it all. :-) | Jun 01 05:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Note to self: next time I get "#Firefox is configured to use a proxy server that is refusing connections.", try *.sixxs.org and *.nyud.net . | Jun 01 05:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @rrix This having two parallel internets thing is really not making life easier. Hope the old one dies soon enough. | Jun 01 05:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] How much GNU is there in GNU/Linux? http://lwn.net/Articles/445454/rss | Jun 01 05:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I like how i can only run GNOME apps when I cd to /usr/share #false | Jun 01 05:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @rrix Hm. So where is the !webos !replicant? ∃ unlocked #android phones, ∃ Android code drops. Can't see how WebOS is more "open". | Jun 01 05:46 | |
| DaemonFC | KDE by itself is as much code as GNU | Jun 01 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | and the kernel itself is more code than GNU | Jun 01 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | shouldn't it be Linux/GNU at least? | Jun 01 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | since Linux is more code than GNU is? | Jun 01 05:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @clacke 1) Nothing is keeping a replicant-esque from being created. 2) there are unlocked webos devices 3) The code drops arne't much better | Jun 01 05:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @clacke than webos's. And my argument isn't that it's more open, it's that it's real linux underneath, and easier to toy with. | Jun 01 05:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @clacke It's also not an argument that webos is somehow "better", just that it's better for me. | Jun 01 05:49 | |
| DaemonFC | I've been considering an Android tablet | Jun 01 05:53 |
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| DaemonFC | there just aren't any decent tablet operating systems out there and Android is the one that seems the most capable | Jun 01 05:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @rrix 1) I admit I don't know WebOS enough to say. But "various [OSS] components used in webOS" doesn't sound like WebOS. http://ur1.ca/61rm | Jun 01 05:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | what else are you going to do? $700 Crapple walled garden or Windows Crapola Edition perhaps? | Jun 01 05:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @rrix The second half does, and I respect that. But the first half tries to point out the "open" argument, and it doesn't seem to succeed. | Jun 01 05:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Why does every city start with C? There's only one sure thing that I know, I've got to get out of Ohio. #electricsix #bedtimetunes | Jun 01 05:56 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Those Windows CE netbooks are no longer anywhere to be found. They were a complete disaster. | Jun 01 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | People found out they weren't really capable of running Windows software and were just dressed up to resemble Windows XP and started returning them | Jun 01 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | I had my concerns about a $98 netbook that was $98 AFTER the Windows license cost | Jun 01 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | you know that's not going to be quality hardware | Jun 01 05:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @clacke It's "hacker friendly" | Jun 01 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] On that note, I'm done with the identisphere tonight, gotta Get Shit Done for a while | Jun 01 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Except for GBV and DEVO, nothing seems to redeem ohio | Jun 01 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Got the studio all set up and loving it. :-) | Jun 01 06:03 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cnn.com/2011/LIVING/05/31/interesting.numbers.american.culture.mf/ | Jun 01 06:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 10 interesting numbers in U.S. - CNN.com .::. Size~: 69.63 KB | Jun 01 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana was one of the states that decided to issue speeders violating the federal 55 MPH law an "energy wasting" ticket. The cops didn't bother pulling people over for less than 70 because $10 wasn't really that much of a fine. | Jun 01 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | which was the entire point :) | Jun 01 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | As for the Dow Jones average, they prune the companies that are sinking it and toss in companies that are doing well (either really or due to a bubble) | Jun 01 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | it's not a benchmark of anything other than how they've stacked it lately | Jun 01 06:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Unity with a mouse and a keyboard on an external screen is way nicer than using a laptop with build in keyboard and trackpad. #ubuntu | Jun 01 06:11 | |
| DaemonFC | http://cmsstage.gdn.indystar.com/article/20110531/LOCAL18/105310338/Judge-tosses-out-Bisard-blood-test?odyssey=mod%7Cmostcom | Jun 01 06:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Judge tosses out Bisard blood test | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com .::. Size~: 117.95 KB | Jun 01 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | Cop struck and killed someone last year while driving drunk | Jun 01 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | now the judges are piling up to stand in the way of prosecuting him | Jun 01 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | if that wasn't a cop, they'd be throwing felonies at him left and right | Jun 01 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | the only charge he still faces is reckless homicide, which is roughly equal to involuntary manslaughter | Jun 01 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | the he'll be doing 3-5 if they convict him | Jun 01 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 06:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A way to take out spammers? 3 banks process 95% of spam transactions http://is.gd/4XPwRT | Jun 01 06:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | Someone was telling me the other day about 1930s in Chicago, the cops could just beat the crap out of you for no reason and you couldn't do anything about it. | Jun 01 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | Then I said "Unlike today where they can just taser you sadistically and laugh about it" | Jun 01 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | "The police protect us" | Jun 01 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | Just like they took that guy back for Jeffrey Dahmer to eat and laughed about it | Jun 01 06:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @patcito Google open sourcing voice and video engine for the web, p2p voip and video in Chrome and Firefox! http://ur1.ca/4bgxs #scre ... | Jun 01 06:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @laurelrusswurm: A creator has the right to set fire to their work, or cut it into pieces. But #copyright law prevents us from freeing it | Jun 01 06:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : I make a kick-ass argument. Mostly. http://bit.ly/lof20E #Chevenga #weblit #fantasy #reading | Jun 01 06:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @uvmchristine: Lawyers in Hell: the new book trailer -- available in July, everywhere. http://kerlakpublishing.com/lawyerhell.html | Jun 01 06:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Dangit, not possible to deploy @KolabSys 's zpush plugin without pulling in Horde? #sadness | Jun 01 06:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Reporter on radio 4 today programme "The !capitalist system has not worked in providing care for the elderly" (British private care scandal) | Jun 01 06:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I guess it's not Horde but one of Horde's bundled libraries (the important one that explains the XML format for Kolab data :) ) | Jun 01 06:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Happy birthday, Notch! | Jun 01 06:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Yeeeeehawwww! :D | Jun 01 06:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Why is it that I'm starting to hate the word Apps it sounds like a fucking disease. what happened with the words like Application & Software | Jun 01 06:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] installed that, and it doesnt work *shrug* #gonnareinstallthisweekanyways | Jun 01 06:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @rrix Yes, that's a good argument. I'm hoping that Nokia's MeeGo phone will have that same advantage. | Jun 01 06:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Deja Dup crashing backing up all but smallest directories. | Jun 01 06:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @rrix I wanted an N900 when they came out, but "unfortunately" my then-current phone was working well enough, no excuse for an upgrade. :-) | Jun 01 06:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @rrix For me the ubiquity of end-user apps *is* an argument. Would love to tinker, but I'd be deluding myself if I said I have the time. | Jun 01 06:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] oh! @bkuhn you probably remember. what was the first wm/de that came as default in debian, twm? | Jun 01 06:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] First cup of coffee for over a month..buzzing. | Jun 01 07:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to work! | Jun 01 07:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @clacke Where is that a quote from? | Jun 01 07:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: 4tiitoo at #Computex – Show off #WeTab and reference hardware http://mge.bz/bw #Linux #OpenSource #Intel #MeeGo | Jun 01 07:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: Lenovo's MeeGo Netbook: Hands On http://t.co/HN9Exwa via @pcmag | Jun 01 07:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: NICE! Intel #MeeGo tablet UX with #AppUp on showcase at #Computex http://yfrog.com/gyrzuvnwj via @geekonomics | Jun 01 07:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Linpus showing they can flex with meego as well http://yfrog.com/hssjsmewj #computex #meego #intel #speakfreely | Jun 01 07:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @clacke telepathic user interface and cancer cure will be in wp8. | Jun 01 07:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @clacke http://search.dilbert.com/comic/Telepathic | Jun 01 07:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Watching Endevor's last landing. In a few minutes, now. | Jun 01 07:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] http://www.livestream.com/spaceflightnow | Jun 01 07:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] catching up with episodes of Tech Liberation podcast, had about 8 that built up | Jun 01 07:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @benfell Will Greeks Defy Rape and Pillage By Barbarians Bankers? An E-Mail from Athens « naked capitalism http://n4rky.me/t8 | Jun 01 07:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] #EU #DigitalAgenda Assembly 16-17 June RT @osimod: all tweets about #daa11eu are collected here http://bit.ly/mNukQL | Jun 01 07:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @bethnoveck: RT @GovInTheLab: @epsiplatform European #opendata events at http://bit.ly/dLknso #opendata | Jun 01 07:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Endeavor has just landed for the last time !science | Jun 01 07:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] I ♥ the Internet. Watching a space shuttle (Endeavour) making it's last (and final) landing... live #WIN #NASA | Jun 01 07:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Is marriage an attempt to make permanent what is naturally in humans a 5 to 8 year cycle? #religion | Jun 01 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @satipera: Is marriage an attempt to make permanent what is naturally in humans a 5 to 8 year cycle? #religion | Jun 01 07:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Another good thing about unity's global menu: how the fudge do you get to it when your mouse's batteries ran over? | Jun 01 08:01 | |
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| asdfas2wefw | The effect of the M$ takeover is kicking in: | Jun 01 08:10 |
| asdfas2wefw | http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/may/31/nokia-shares-dive-profit-warning | Jun 01 08:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia shares dive after sales warning | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 200.89 KB | Jun 01 08:10 |
| asdfas2wefw | Nokia shares dive after sales warning | Jun 01 08:10 |
| asdfas2wefw | The phones had become poor quality already before the takeover, now they are bad quality and unpopular | Jun 01 08:11 |
| asdfas2wefw | The boots are also over price and no longer good quality. | Jun 01 08:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @satipera: RT @benfell Will Greeks Defy Rape & Pillage By Barbarians Bankers? An E-Mail from Athens naked - capitalism http://n4rky.me/t8 | Jun 01 08:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Vryka: EC 493 A General approaches the wrong person. http://bit.ly/dzfcLV #weblit #webfic #Minis #fantasy #scifi #worthreading | Jun 01 08:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Gas #fracking being blamed for minor earthquakes in Britain. http://is.gd/c2NCH6 !green | Jun 01 08:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @HSM_Satan: Sin with a grin, all you damned, on July 15, 2011 when "Lawyers in Hell" (c) Janet Morris, becomes available everywhere! | Jun 01 08:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Groklaw covers the last Microsoft v Commission hearing, interviewed me, Tridge and @kgerloff http://is.gd/ICwEA6 | Jun 01 08:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Google open-sources WebRTC http://lwn.net/Articles/445499/rss | Jun 01 08:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] File-Sharer Sentenced To 3 Years Probation, Cognitive Therapy - http://bit.ly/jACK1f must make IFPI & BPI feel so proud #bullies | Jun 01 08:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Access to Scientific Information - http://bit.ly/iA1uKQ "open approaches lead to faster, more efficient, & more cost effective research" | Jun 01 08:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Science in the Open » Blog Archive » Evidence to the European Commission Hearing on Access to Scientific Information .::. Size~: 53.7 KB | Jun 01 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Austrian Police Seize Computers From #Tor Exit Node - http://bit.ly/j9T02t really bad precedent #austria | Jun 01 08:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Italy, #Spain take patent fight to court - http://bit.ly/kAdlkV lovely bit of infighting here... #patents #eu | Jun 01 08:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Austrian Police Seize Computers From Tor Exit Node | Techdirt .::. Size~: 319.28 KB | Jun 01 08:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Italy, Spain take patent fight to court | EurActiv .::. Size~: 122.35 KB | Jun 01 08:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk absolutely. !Nanowrimo makes a wonderful framework for focusing & writing. | Jun 01 08:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] German Rights Holders Go After 300,000 P2P Users Per Month - http://bit.ly/lpL5Tv if you're criminalising this many, you're doing it wrong | Jun 01 08:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pentagon: Hacking can count as an act of war - http://bit.ly/kDOcyh so that means #Iran is morally justified in retaliating against the #US? | Jun 01 08:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @carlopiana Groklaw covers the last Microsoft v Commission hearing, interviewed me, Tridge and @kgerloff http://is.gd/ICwEA6 | Jun 01 09:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Groklaw has full lowdown on latest Microsoft v EC hearing. Interview w/ @carlopiana, Tridge and myself at http://is.gd/ICwEA6 !fsfe | Jun 01 09:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody German Rights Holders Go After 300,000 P2P Users Per Month - http://bit.ly/lpL5Tv if you're criminalising this many, you'r ... | Jun 01 09:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lodsys sues 7 app developers in East Texas, disagrees with Apple; Android also targeted - http://bit.ly/kylGPO very pleasant #swpats | Jun 01 09:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk sorry... i thought I had | Jun 01 09:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk yes. !nanowrimo. yes ;) | Jun 01 09:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fabsh: they're certainly clueless | Jun 01 09:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FOSS Patents: Lodsys sues 7 app developers in East Texas, disagrees with Apple; Android also targeted .::. Size~: 71.13 KB | Jun 01 09:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] New !miners map uploaded. :) http://sixgun.org/map | Jun 01 09:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 01 09:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Private company running an abusive learning difficulties hospital exposed on Panorama had ignored reports of abuse by a whistle blower. | Jun 01 09:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Totally dig the Golden Gate bridge! :D http://sixgun.org/map/#/483/64/-262/-3 !miners | Jun 01 09:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Blackpool earthquake tremors may have been caused by gas drilling - http://bit.ly/k7DVCD gosh, who'd have thought? #fracking | Jun 01 09:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Blackpool earthquake tremors may have been caused by gas drilling | Environment | The Guardian .::. Size~: 91.93 KB | Jun 01 09:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU: 'One in ten government IT tenders illegally specify brands' - http://bit.ly/iCYelp I just can't think who they could possibly mean.... | Jun 01 09:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @gregkh Linux !kernel 2.6.38.8-rc1 now released for review. It will be the last .38-stable kernel. | Jun 01 09:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A guide to coalition government contracts : how to get all the data - http://bit.ly/j2CbzL interesting stuff (v @DirDigEng) #opendata | Jun 01 09:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A guide to coalition government contracts : how to get all the data | News | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 157.54 KB | Jun 01 09:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A new #Twitter user is revealing more celebrity gagging orders - http://tnw.co/iKtnh1 and so it goes on #uk | Jun 01 09:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A new Twitter user is revealing more celebrity gagging orders - Twitter .::. Size~: 74.38 KB | Jun 01 09:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Pirate Bay: Five Years After The Raid - http://bit.ly/mcO5W1 still going remarkably strongly | Jun 01 09:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Pirate Bay: Five Years After The Raid | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 29.08 KB | Jun 01 09:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "I don't even know how you download music legally" - http://bbc.in/l18zOU so how are those new music services coming along, then? #piracy | Jun 01 09:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC - Newsbeat - Label targets schools to combat illegal downloading .::. Size~: 47.78 KB | Jun 01 09:28 |
| MinceR | r4wr | Jun 01 09:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75837476895330304 | Jun 01 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz You are right: Webbink's Peer-to-Patent is a way to portray the patent system as having a strong self-healing capability. | Jun 01 09:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Two of the lads gracing !mynovel "acknowledgements" page [ http://ur1.ca/4birs ] have a chat here: http://ur1.ca/4biib /@doctorow @Glinner | Jun 01 09:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] data.gouv.fr to promote free public data - http://bit.ly/k9cII7 mais seulement un peu... #opendata #opengov #france | Jun 01 09:29 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Storythings Podcast – Graham Linehan and Cory Doctorow at The Story 2011 | Storythings .::. Size~: 36.57 KB | Jun 01 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: data.gouv.fr to promote free public data | Open Knowledge Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 53.68 KB | Jun 01 09:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody "I don't even know how you download music legally" - http://bbc.in/l18zOU so how are those new music services coming along ... | Jun 01 09:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody The Pirate Bay: Five Years After The Raid - http://bit.ly/mcO5W1 still going remarkably strongly | Jun 01 09:33 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Pirate Bay: Five Years After The Raid | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 29.08 KB | Jun 01 09:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Rain!!! | Jun 01 09:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Commission vs. #Microsoft – The On-going Saga - Updated - http://bit.ly/l3MBFd interesting post with important points | Jun 01 09:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night !identivers (the bird chorus is in full voice... they are hinting ;) | Jun 01 09:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] How can you tell it's a new month? Mailman reminders! :) | Jun 01 09:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @glynmoody European Commission vs. #Microsoft – The On-going Saga - Updated - http://bit.ly/l3MBFd interesting post with important points | Jun 01 09:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Red Hat actually makes more money from OSes than Apple. Amazing!! :D | Jun 01 09:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Up for review: #stable #kernel 2.6.39.1 http://bit.ly/jyjclf and 2.6.38.8 http://bit.ly/lWmXJe; with the latter 2.6.38 will likely reach EOL | Jun 01 09:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @andyc Looks like tinap #5 will possibly be the most surreal and disturbing episode yet when it eventually see the light of day. | Jun 01 09:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Swiss Parliamentarian: Schools should use open source to inspire students - http://bit.ly/kMvCvx now where I have I heard that before? #ch | Jun 01 09:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] time for !football fans the world over to boycott #FIFA sponsors, and letting them know why #corruption | Jun 01 10:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Microsoft has lost 3 Billion Dollars on their Internet division (Bing). Muwhahahahahahaha! Hahahaha! | Jun 01 10:03 | |
| DaemonFC | that's only a billion dollars for every 1% gain over MSN Search | Jun 01 10:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh maybe the name #Bing was chosen to resemble a fruit machine payout as it haemorrhages cash BING BING BING BING BING ;P | Jun 01 10:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh you mean they invested 3 Billion in /dev/null? ;-) | Jun 01 10:08 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Ironically Mesa gives a black screen when you try to play Half Life 2. (Black Mesa) | Jun 01 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | *grin* | Jun 01 10:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @manhack Vous piratez ? Confessez-vous sur http://pourquoijepirate.fr/ ! Parce qu'on n'est pas des voleurs... par @manudwarf >>super | Jun 01 10:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Would You Do For #Bitcoin? - http://bit.ly/lYDU2Y imminent site: microjobs for digital currency... (v @exmosis) | Jun 01 10:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "solutions committee made up of #FIFA insiders" #fail !football | Jun 01 10:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] World cup hosts will be chosen by entire national representative membership from now on #FIFA #business | Jun 01 10:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 192 million downloads on 2011-06-01 09:17 UTC | Jun 01 10:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] did #BernieMadhoff come up with the ticket selling terms for the #London2012 #Olympics? | Jun 01 10:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: ¿Por qué Europa debe Prepararse Para Aboler y Bloquear Todas las Patentes de Software? http://is.gd/Llh671 #swpats #epo #ukipo | Jun 01 10:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | Why does Chromium never make the security bug reports public knowledge? | Jun 01 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla discloses them after they've been patched | Jun 01 10:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Student Outreach: Graduate Students at University of Southern Denmark (SDU) take Home Dash for a Spin http://mozillalabs.com/conceptseries/2 | Jun 01 10:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] EU commission adopts legal package on standardisation. Opens doors for true Open Standards.#FTW http://ur1.ca/4bjsl | Jun 01 10:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CEOP announces 'record results' in child protection battle - http://bit.ly/j566sc "we will go into that future with our brand": brand??? | Jun 01 10:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Largest Telescope in the World to Rely on #Crowdsourced Computing Power - http://rww.to/jCcQNs interesting pairing #astronomy | Jun 01 10:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @jwildeboer: EU commission adopts legal package on standardisation. Opens doors for true Open Standards.#FTW http://ur1.ca/4bjsl | Jun 01 10:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Windows 8 Should Be Free - http://bit.ly/lTtM3t that John Dvorak is such a card... | Jun 01 11:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Microsoft killed Sidekick because only black and latinos use it http://ur1.ca/4bjvd #racist | Jun 01 11:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: #Windows 8 Should Be Free - http://bit.ly/lTtM3t that John Dvorak is such a card... | Jun 01 11:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wake up, Linux hippies: No one 'morally obligated' to give back - http://bit.ly/lsbvEf hey, I'm officially a hippie - er, old hippie... | Jun 01 11:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | when you argue for nonfree software you're arguing for centralized planning, controlled output, and no competition, which sounds a lot more like "communism" to me, the only reason nonfree software might not qualify is because the state usually doesn't run the company making it | Jun 01 11:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Green supporter John Bryson picked as USA Commerce Secretary. | Jun 01 11:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Germany: #Opensource in coalition agreement Badem-Wuerttemberg - http://bit.ly/mhPkEz it's starting to happen... | Jun 01 11:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | "If Win 8 only includes the superficial features that are predicted, then it's a tweak of Win 7, not a new OS, and we shouldn't have to pay for it." -John Dvorak | Jun 01 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | same could be said of Windows 7 | Jun 01 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | it's just superficial tweaks of Vista | Jun 01 11:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] European Court of Justice and Baroness Wilcox Could Learn From Spain, Italy http://is.gd/ZTELNf #swpats #microsoft #ukipo linux #foss | Jun 01 11:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] European Court of Justice and Baroness Wilcox Could Learn From Spain, Italy http://is.gd/ZTELNf #epo #eucommission #politics #spain #italy | Jun 01 11:18 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft is throwing a PDF reader in, ohhhh, exciting :P | Jun 01 11:18 |
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| DaemonFC | Windows is the only OS that still doesn't have one | Jun 01 11:18 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks for the quote | Jun 01 11:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "If Win 8 only includes the superficial features that are predicted, then it's a tweak of Win 7, not a new OS." -John Dvorak | Jun 01 11:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Report: 96% of Americans under 50 are on #Facebook - http://tnw.co/knKEWC e pluribus unum... eek | Jun 01 11:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've looked at the builds of Windows 8 so far, it's not really substantial | Jun 01 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | it has a PDF Reader, IE has a new name for full screen mode | Jun 01 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | there's a "store" where you can (effectively) rent applications | Jun 01 11:20 |
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| DaemonFC | they still won't go into detail what Portable Workspace means | Jun 01 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | with Linux you can carry the OS around files and all on a USB stick and boot any computer off of it | Jun 01 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | Windows will probably only let you use that stick in other PCs with Windows 8 | Jun 01 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | I can't imagine Microsoft letting you copy a functional subset of the OS onto a USB stick | Jun 01 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | AppX is an attempt to push Silverlight on the desktop which will largely fail | Jun 01 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has experimented with desktop widgets already, just not ones written in Silverlight | Jun 01 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | the Gadgets for the Windows Sidebar were awful and the sidebar sitting there with the stupid clock on it took 40 MB of RAM | Jun 01 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | I can see it happening all over again with AppX | Jun 01 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | the Silverlight desktop application platform is such a joke that no serious application could ever use it | Jun 01 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | the self extracting EXE installer will persevere :P | Jun 01 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | they want to market AppX right now as just click on it and it works | Jun 01 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | but once people get a whiff of its limitations they'll never bother with it again | Jun 01 11:26 |
| cubezzz | they'll be forced to by Microsoft + OEMs, unless they're smart | Jun 01 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | Instead of fixing their broken operating system, Microsoft tells programmers to avoid libc memcpy | Jun 01 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | among other hilarity | Jun 01 11:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/15/microsoft_banishes_memcpy/ | Jun 01 11:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nice photo. http://is.gd/6RC74c | Jun 01 11:33 | |
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| cubezzz | an OS with working voice recognition would be nice | Jun 01 11:33 |
| cubezzz | even just something simple like "run firefox" or "exit game" | Jun 01 11:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There is No Windows 8, It is Vista With New Tweaks http://is.gd/cHfXEi #windows #hype #hardware #linux | Jun 01 11:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] There is No Windows 8, It is Vista With New Tweaks http://is.gd/cHfXEi #vaporware #microsoft | Jun 01 11:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The purpose of announcing early like this is to freeze the market at the OEM and ISV level." ~Nathan Myhrvold, Microsoft (now patent troll) | Jun 01 11:34 | |
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| cubezzz | Acer's been preloading linplus lite | Jun 01 11:37 |
| cubezzz | so there are exceptions | Jun 01 11:37 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't know what it is with OEMs and picking out obscure distributions that nobody would ever choose themselves | Jun 01 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 11:38 |
| cubezzz | so Acer, ASUS and Dell are preloading Linux | Jun 01 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | Why can't they slap on Ubuntu or Fedora? | Jun 01 11:38 |
| cubezzz | Linpus is derived from Fedora | Jun 01 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | Why does it always have to be something I've never even heard of? | Jun 01 11:39 |
| schestowitz | "No, we're not briefing people at all -- that was my point. I merely was pointing you to publicly available information in case you didn't already see it (since you've already been following the issue) -- i.e. the press release and the injunction filed in the court." -PR agent from IBM | Jun 01 11:39 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jun 01 11:39 |
| schestowitz | Let me do a post about it | Jun 01 11:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff Want to join the LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich? Join the poll: http://www.doodle.com/i7pw9wubvdhdyzm4 !libo !tdf | Jun 01 11:39 | |
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| cubezzz | Lenevo was preloading SUSE for a while | Jun 01 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Right, but Fedora is something that's more likely to be supported for the life of the product they sold you | Jun 01 11:40 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, you can delete linpus and stick fedora xx on there but yeah it's more work | Jun 01 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | so it looks bad on them when they throw on some distro that's going to die off at some point and doesn't have a lot of support options out there | Jun 01 11:41 |
| cubezzz | at least no Microsoft tax | Jun 01 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jun 01 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jun 01 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, I wonder how those folks you bought MSI Wind systems feel about their Xandros right now? | Jun 01 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | I hope they know how to format the thing and install a real distro :P | Jun 01 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | *who bought | Jun 01 11:41 |
| cubezzz | I'm only seeing white box PCs in small computer stores with linux or blank | Jun 01 11:41 |
| cubezzz | other than online purchases | Jun 01 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | I'd buy one blank since only I know what I want to use on it | Jun 01 11:42 |
| cubezzz | but if you do that you could just buy the parts you like and assemble it | Jun 01 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | I thought we were talking netbook here :) | Jun 01 11:43 |
| cubezzz | no, Acer X3810 was a small tower | Jun 01 11:43 |
| cubezzz | one example | Jun 01 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | I've been considering a new portable something or other since I gave that ancient laptop to my brother :P | Jun 01 11:44 |
| cubezzz | I ran Fedora on it, and it worked well | Jun 01 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know if I'm going to get another laptop or one of those Android tablets | Jun 01 11:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff Did you check out the gratis LibreOffice templates by PresentationLoad yet? http://is.gd/A3DbG4 !libo !tdf | Jun 01 11:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google releases developer preview of WebRTC, its open real-time voice and video platform - http://tnw.co/l0S4sm not sure how useful this is | Jun 01 11:44 | |
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| cubezzz | the question is, can you buy _every_ model of Acer with linpus on it? | Jun 01 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | doubt it | Jun 01 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | they "recommend" Vista7 | Jun 01 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | because Microsoft probably recommended they do that or face licensing punishment | Jun 01 11:45 |
| cubezzz | I like to check tigerdirect.ca every once in a while | Jun 01 11:45 |
| cubezzz | ASUS has the EEE box thing | Jun 01 11:46 |
| cubezzz | tiger even has an linux PC section | Jun 01 11:47 |
| cubezzz | only has one computer in it :-/ | Jun 01 11:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #Linkedin is inching towards the piss-off zone. | Jun 01 11:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] If there is a hell, one spot should be reserved for those who have conceived PowerPoint, and for PowerPoint itself. Burn, Burn! | Jun 01 11:48 | |
| msb_ | Question: Does MS-Windows provide muliple desktops aka virtual workspaces, like KDE does? | Jun 01 11:51 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, I think Toshiba has some stuff with Ubuntu | Jun 01 11:53 |
| cubezzz | of course they recommend windows 7 too | Jun 01 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | msb_: No, but there are third party programs that can do that. Nvidia's driver bundle added virtual desktops to my Windows XP when I had it | Jun 01 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | if you want advanced compositing effects like desktop cube, you have to buy more software | Jun 01 11:54 |
| msb_ | DaemonFC: Thanks! That's what I thought. | Jun 01 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | same deal if you want to change your themes | Jun 01 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | by change, I mean more than just the color | Jun 01 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | or you can still apply a patch to uxtheme.dll | Jun 01 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | there's a system service you can install that will patch it in memory so you don't have to alter Windows system files | Jun 01 11:55 |
| cubezzz | or another nasty trick, OEMs who sell Linux machines but at higher prices than windows machines | Jun 01 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | (the need of this is ludicrous) | Jun 01 11:55 |
| cubezzz | so it's like paying a double microsoft tax | Jun 01 11:55 |
| msb_ | Without multiple workspaces, Windows cripples power-users. | Jun 01 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | msb_: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/cc817881.aspx | Jun 01 11:57 |
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| DaemonFC | there's that | Jun 01 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | it's unsupported | Jun 01 11:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] heise.de on #osmocom #tetra at #phneutral: http://bit.ly/iMlnYt | Jun 01 11:58 | |
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| cubezzz | DaemonFC, not sure how good the prices are, but there's http://www.system76.com | Jun 01 11:58 |
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| ThistleWeb | system76 are supposed to be very good, but not cheap | Jun 01 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | the prices aren't bad | Jun 01 12:00 |
| msb_ | DaemonFC: Wow, maximum 4 desktops, and severely limited functionality! Linux has had 20, fully functional, since KDE3. | Jun 01 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | they use Intel though, yuck | Jun 01 12:01 |
| ThistleWeb | well, it's a HUGE market for CPU's, there's a wide variety of vendors they could use | Jun 01 12:01 |
| msb_ | DaemonFC: Thanks! | Jun 01 12:02 |
| cubezzz | yeah and don't forget amiga :) | Jun 01 12:02 |
| cubezzz | you can still buy a 1200 if you hurry | Jun 01 12:02 |
| cubezzz | 68K ftw :) | Jun 01 12:02 |
| ThistleWeb | a choice so wide you could count them on the fingers of one hand twice over and still have a spare finger to cover the monopoly vote | Jun 01 12:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #uupc04 Syncany sounds interesting but there aren't any packages are there? | Jun 01 12:03 | |
| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, you can buy PPC though | Jun 01 12:03 |
| cubezzz | for lots of $$$ | Jun 01 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | I don't do Intel | Jun 01 12:03 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah, I can see a whopping number of OS's with PPC versions | Jun 01 12:03 |
| ThistleWeb | including windows <sarcasm> | Jun 01 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | I use AMD only, I won't buy Nvidia either | Jun 01 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | so my system is AMD everything | Jun 01 12:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] #EUCommission tables Standardisation reform http://j.mp/klA4te, aims at recognition, better use of ICT standards: #DigitalAgenda KeyAction 5 | Jun 01 12:04 | |
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| cubezzz | you're quite right to point out the lack of choices ThistleWeb | Jun 01 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | everything about Nvidia offends me | Jun 01 12:05 |
| cubezzz | unless you're into retro-computing of course | Jun 01 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 12:05 |
| ThistleWeb | you can vote against windows by wiping it and putting linux on, even fighting for a refund of a licence | Jun 01 12:06 |
| ThistleWeb | you can vote against various vendors of hardware, but stuff like cpu's you're very limited | Jun 01 12:06 |
| cubezzz | VIA's still in business yes? | Jun 01 12:06 |
| ThistleWeb | even graphics cards are limited too, albeit slightly bigger range as it includes nvidea | Jun 01 12:06 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm VERY wary of amd / ati supporting linux for a while, then it evapotaing, and being stuck unable to upgrade to a new distro | Jun 01 12:08 |
| ThistleWeb | at least intel stuff is in the kernel | Jun 01 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | ThistleWeb: Because free and open source kernel drivers do that all the time | Jun 01 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 01 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | the very worst thing that could happen if AMD fell off the face of the Earth right now is my GPU would mostly work OK with the free video driver | Jun 01 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | now if Nvidia fell off the planet, most Nvidia users would have to throw their card away | Jun 01 12:09 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm always wary of the newest cards too, on the basis that it often takes a little time to be supported in linux | Jun 01 12:10 |
| cubezzz | VIA Nano U2500 1.2 Ghz, TDP 6.8 watts, idle power 100 mWatt | Jun 01 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | we've seen this problem happen before when FOSS-hostile companies like Nvidia came and went and the whole time saying "trust us, we'll give you drivers, you don't need specs" | Jun 01 12:10 |
| DaemonFC | then there are schizophrenic companies like Via | Jun 01 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | we support Linux, you're on your own, now we totally support Linux again, now you're on your own | Jun 01 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | and you end up with 3 overlapping Via Unichrome drivers that all have different features, problems, and hardware support | Jun 01 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | Via is probably produces the worst chipsets to have right now | Jun 01 12:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IBM PR is ‘Shaping’ the News (and Asks to Remain Secret) http://is.gd/EUjWc2 #perceptionmanagement #antitrust #mainframe | Jun 01 12:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] IBM PR is ‘Shaping’ the News (and Asks to Remain Secret) http://is.gd/EUjWc2 #IBM #propaganda #spin #neon #eu #courtroom #linux | Jun 01 12:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #GordonBrown has something in common with #SeppBlatter, an "election" consisting of one candidate & none of the regular Joe's impressed | Jun 01 12:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | "Older printers may not work with Windows 7. Avoid the hassle and upgrade to a compatible printer today." -Dell | Jun 01 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | Older printers may not work with Windows 7. Avoid the hassle and forget about Windows 7." -Me | Jun 01 12:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @themoovida: RT @pietroblu: Gotta share! http://kurl.ws/3Eh | Jun 01 12:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft incentivizing chipmakers and tablet manufacturers to form 'sole alliances'? http://engt.co/lPW1MC « I'd call it bribery | Jun 01 12:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In my post I forgot to mention important quote: "if you blog about the end of this case, none of this information came from IBM, okay?" | Jun 01 12:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I'm aware that Microsoft boosters like @fosspatents will try to use this thing about #IBM for their agenda, but it's about PR, not antitrust | Jun 01 12:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] The power about #LED laptops is #geeks acutely gets out in the sun now and then. #android #twit.tv/aaa http://www.imgur.com/1rFPA.jpg | Jun 01 12:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #uupc04 @popey sounds a bit sore on Distrowatch stats... ;) | Jun 01 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #uupc#uupc04 @popey sounds a bit sore on Distrowatch stats... ;) | Jun 01 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] perhaps !football fans boycotting the #WorldCup games, so it's empty stadia + handful of corp seats = the TV footage would send a message | Jun 01 12:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] sponsors don't pay a fortune to be linked with events so unpopular it's empty stadia, #FIFA only listen to money / sponsors | Jun 01 12:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #uupc04 Camouflage cover for a Vulcan. ROFL! !OggCamp #WC | Jun 01 12:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Cold call from #Tele2. Me: "Sorry, I can't discussed this right now". They hung up w/o any civilities. #WTF -> blacklisted | Jun 01 12:36 | |
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| Nexus7 | salud | Jun 01 12:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] s/discussed/discuss in my previous dent. Dear #Tele2, next time choose better service providers, and now please go to hell. | Jun 01 12:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] s/discussed/discuss in my previous dent. Dear #Tele2, next time choose better service providers, and now please go to hell. | Jun 01 12:38 | |
| abeNd-org | DaemonFC: slick, ive not actually tried rockbox myself, with my sansa clip (yea, my first mp3 player, all else has been pda/smartphones, got tired of futzing with them & wanted something simple/dedicated...clip doesnt get much simpler) | Jun 01 12:42 |
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| DaemonFC | the rockbox firmware is free software, mind numbingly simple to install, and supports dozens of formats the Sansa firmware doesn't | Jun 01 12:43 |
| xjasonx | have you guys seen mac asay's latest blog post? | Jun 01 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | good enough for me :) | Jun 01 12:44 |
| xjasonx | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/31/open_source_givers_and_takers/ | Jun 01 12:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wake up, Linux hippies: No one 'morally obligated' to give back • The Register .::. Size~: 26.69 KB | Jun 01 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Jun 01 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | the guy is a whore | Jun 01 12:44 |
| xjasonx | yea | Jun 01 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | jono's boss paid him for services rendered | Jun 01 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | time to move on though | Jun 01 12:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Is it 9am US east coast already? | Jun 01 12:44 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 01 12:44 |
| xjasonx | imho, it's just an excuse for his new company not contributing back | Jun 01 12:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #twit300 Sony blows up twice and TWiT just keeps talking about the fucking royal wedding. | Jun 01 12:48 | |
| MinceR | just like his favorite company | Jun 01 12:49 |
| MinceR | he's a crApple cultist | Jun 01 12:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] RT @gregkh: http://yfrog.com/gyzarxej the official Linux 3.0 whisky given to Linus today and finished off in one evening. #linuxcon | Jun 01 12:49 | |
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| xjasonx | yep | Jun 01 12:50 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Jun 01 12:50 |
| schestowitz | I wonder who rendered the headline | Jun 01 12:50 |
| schestowitz | I doubt he's write | Jun 01 12:50 |
| schestowitz | "Wake up, Linux hippies" | Jun 01 12:51 |
| schestowitz | I'll give him the bvenefit of the doubt | Jun 01 12:51 |
| schestowitz | Funny thing is that he worked for "Linux companies" | Jun 01 12:51 |
| schestowitz | BTW, haven't read it, won't click on his trolling | Jun 01 12:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @atownley The other thing is that BG and MS are patent happy: http://nyti.ms/jOa1BS and http://bit.ly/mHycZT and http://bit.ly/jWo3c3 | Jun 01 12:51 | |
| MinceR | no, he worked for a company that wanted to be crApple | Jun 01 12:51 |
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| MinceR | and still wants to be crApple | Jun 01 12:51 |
| schestowitz | He has a hastag in twitter that Red Hat people use, it's #asayroll (troll) | Jun 01 12:51 |
| schestowitz | when jono comes back we can ask him about the "Wake up, Linux hippies" part | Jun 01 12:52 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he knows his former bosses better | Jun 01 12:52 |
| schestowitz | One unity dev told me that Asay was "Charming". Don't know what's so charming about this stereotype-pushing of his... | Jun 01 12:53 |
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| MinceR | if the COO is a boss of the "Community Manager", that is... | Jun 01 12:54 |
| MinceR | i don't know what either of them are supposed to do | Jun 01 12:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@mjasay was it you who put in your headline "Wake up, Linux hippies"? Or was it El Reg editor/s? It makes Canonical look bad, either way. | Jun 01 12:54 | |
| schestowitz | Asay will hopefully let me know when I live in a basement | Jun 01 12:54 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 01 12:55 |
| schestowitz | Me goes back to doing computer vision research | Jun 01 12:57 |
| schestowitz | Pays well.. | Jun 01 12:57 |
| schestowitz | Benefits society, too | Jun 01 12:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Twitter spam seems to have increased a lot recently. (dummy accounts pushing dodgy links by highlighting actual @user names) | Jun 01 12:58 | |
| schestowitz | Free software, open access, no patents... | Jun 01 12:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: TBH, I don't know if Asay will even bother replying but he usually does. I just don't see how he can defend it, unless The Reg indeed modified/chose the headline (typical) | Jun 01 12:59 |
| schestowitz | He has liked me since around 2005 when he would mail me... but years later he got sort of dodgy by insulting RMS and then we had tensions. And I know he doesn't like you cause he was in this IRC channel after you had said what you think of him. | Jun 01 13:00 |
| MinceR | he defends it with delusion, as always | Jun 01 13:01 |
| asdfas2wefw | TheRegister could have chosen a better columnist to promote. :( | Jun 01 13:02 |
| MinceR | reg hates free software, so it's fitting | Jun 01 13:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "software patents should not exist." - http://bit.ly/kiFrG5 a leading #VC speaks out: "this cancer growing inside our economy" (v @putt1ck) | Jun 01 13:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Wake up you dirty hippy, let me take you to the cheap dollar store and buy you a bar of soap | Jun 01 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | then we can talk about migrating you to Windows 7 | Jun 01 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jun 01 13:05 |
| MinceR | thanks, but i prefer liquid soap | Jun 01 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | what is this anal fixation with wireless mice and keyboards | Jun 01 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | maybe if there was one that would last more than a few days on the same batteries and not go out in the middle of something with no warning... | Jun 01 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 01 13:12 |
| MinceR | the usual pointless hype | Jun 01 13:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] So Much Fuss Over A Photo That The Photographer Has No Problem With People Copying - http://bit.ly/kbN9Ew some unable to grasp #sharing | Jun 01 13:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: So Much Fuss Over A Photo That The Photographer Has No Problem With People Copying | Techdirt .::. Size~: 47.22 KB | Jun 01 13:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why I adopted a scorched earth policy, dismantled two blogs & jumped to Tumblr - http://tnw.co/ll6SEm brave move, but I'm not convinced | Jun 01 13:19 | |
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| schestowitz | [13:02] <asdfas2wefw> TheRegister could have chosen a better columnist to promote. :( | Jun 01 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Exactly | Jun 01 13:28 |
| schestowitz | That's what I call bias by selection | Jun 01 13:28 |
| schestowitz | When IDG for example selects WIndows book authors to be "writers", or selects a "Windows" section to have and no section for its competitors | Jun 01 13:28 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75078262 | Jun 01 13:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 12:06:13 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Patents by the kilo. | Jun 01 13:29 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75078832 | Jun 01 13:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @kronik's status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 12:14:38 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: Yes, the Twitter spam is increasing. How do you/we combat this twitter spam? | Jun 01 13:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Libya's Goldman Dalliance Ends in Losses http://is.gd/nywQPE Lambregts Says #EU #Debt Woes `Banking Crisis in Disguise' http://is.gd/o9SMrv | Jun 01 13:29 | |
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| schestowitz | I just assume anyone whom I don't know and merely drops a link to be a spammer. | Jun 01 13:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75900166053441536 | Jun 01 13:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I figured that IBM had sent you something on the NEON thing and I did realize the scope of what your criticism related to. | Jun 01 13:31 |
| schestowitz | The "Foss patents" persona (attacks FOSS with patents) is in no position to criticise this IBM practice because it too spams journalists | Jun 01 13:32 |
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| ender_33 | more of that forced volunteer work? | Jun 01 13:34 |
| schestowitz | what? IBM? | Jun 01 13:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Florian and IBM could really get along. They have things in common. http://is.gd/AnlNPQ http://is.gd/EUjWc2 | Jun 01 13:38 | |
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| ender_33 | nah | Jun 01 13:38 |
| ender_33 | the reg article | Jun 01 13:38 |
| ender_33 | nobody should be forced to contribute | Jun 01 13:38 |
| ender_33 | since you make a lot of use out of open source Roy, I demand you contribute lines of code to the linux foundation | Jun 01 13:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] more #Standards for Europe and faster - http://bit.ly/kSO1Tr yes yes yes, but will they be truly *open* (RF) standards? | Jun 01 13:39 | |
| ender_33 | damn it! | Jun 01 13:39 |
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| ender_33 | CAPITALIST! | Jun 01 13:39 |
| schestowitz | Simple Java API for ODF v0.6 released today, with new support for charts: http://bit.ly/hruQE0 #ODF #JAVA | Jun 01 13:40 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75902060763156480 | Jun 01 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz There are different definitions of "spam". At any rate, IBM has the right to explain its settlements to those who may report. | Jun 01 13:40 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: what are you talking about? | Jun 01 13:40 |
| schestowitz | We were talking about the insult in the headline | Jun 01 13:40 |
| ender_33 | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/31/open_source_givers_and_takers/ | Jun 01 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wake up, Linux hippies: No one 'morally obligated' to give back • The Register .::. Size~: 26.69 KB | Jun 01 13:40 |
| schestowitz | Where did I say anything about forced contribution? | Jun 01 13:40 |
| schestowitz | Pillock! | Jun 01 13:41 |
| ender_33 | the headline could be less insulting | Jun 01 13:41 |
| ender_33 | the content is still valid though | Jun 01 13:41 |
| ender_33 | but you know the mediea | Jun 01 13:41 |
| ender_33 | media | Jun 01 13:41 |
| ender_33 | the headline sells the story | Jun 01 13:41 |
| MinceR | the headline is not entirely distinct from the article | Jun 01 13:42 |
| ender_33 | theres nothing hippie about wanting to contribute in the community | Jun 01 13:42 |
| ender_33 | science | Jun 01 13:42 |
| MinceR | tell that to the crApple fanboy | Jun 01 13:42 |
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| ender_33 | theres lots of those these days | Jun 01 13:43 |
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| ender_33 | that's why the one device is called an iPad, it's for their vagina | Jun 01 13:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 01 13:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rcweir Simple Java API for ODF v0.6 released today, with new support for charts: http://bit.ly/hruQE0 #ODF #JAVA | Jun 01 13:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Chrome overtakes #firefox in #Brazil - http://bit.ly/mzs5HJ whoa, and that's a big, important market, too... | Jun 01 13:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Shanghai sees lowest levels of rainfall in 138 years - http://bit.ly/mboeYN probably just a touch of weather... #climatechange | Jun 01 13:44 | |
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| ender_33 | "waaaaaaaaaaaa! (L)users!!!!!1111!11" | Jun 01 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Shanghai sees lowest levels of rainfall in 138 years - People's Daily Online .::. Size~: 38.91 KB | Jun 01 13:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] That DoD propsal to make hackers war criminals totally has nothing to woth #Assange and #Wikileaks. I mean like totally. | Jun 01 13:46 | |
| ender_33 | Mincer - notice someone has been quiet since he stormed off? | Jun 01 13:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Goldman Sachs played in the run up to the 1930s Depression; not unlike its role in the current Great Recession. " http://is.gd/z0Rkwc | Jun 01 13:48 | |
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| MinceR | i'm not good at detecting particular people going quiet | Jun 01 13:48 |
| MinceR | who do you mean? | Jun 01 13:48 |
| ender_33 | the shape shifter | Jun 01 13:48 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75080549 | Jun 01 13:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 12:41:29 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz That IBM do not mention us series of releases was stupid. I suspect someone in their PR department is in hot water. | Jun 01 13:48 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: if you refer to me, I've been busy reading news | Jun 01 13:49 |
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| MinceR | i didn't follow that | Jun 01 13:49 |
| MinceR | the shifting, i mean | Jun 01 13:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@glynmoody re " #Chrome overtakes #firefox in #Brazil " - that's an overstatement given the way the numbers are collected by one 3rd party | Jun 01 13:49 | |
| ender_33 | shapeshifting reptilians | Jun 01 13:49 |
| ender_33 | is another hint | Jun 01 13:50 |
| ender_33 | mr nanothermite | Jun 01 13:50 |
| MinceR | i remember some of those discussions | Jun 01 13:51 |
| ender_33 | if I mention his name his alarm goes off | Jun 01 13:51 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 01 13:51 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 01 13:51 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't matter, we have more topical issues to cover here. Asayroll for example... | Jun 01 13:52 |
| schestowitz | His headline is bad for another reason | Jun 01 13:52 |
| schestowitz | It implies that only Linux users want "free stuff" | Jun 01 13:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Moody’s,S&P Caved In to Ratings Pressure From #Goldman , #UBS Over Mortgages http://is.gd/vfvXFd more Moody’s corruption http://is.gd/rSUEvp | Jun 01 13:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Moody’s, S&P Caved In to Ratings Pressure From Goldman, UBS Over Mortgages - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 72.16 KB | Jun 01 13:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting video/ogg type | Jun 01 13:53 |
| schestowitz | Reality is, it's Windows users who run after cheap, cheap, free, free.. | Jun 01 13:53 |
| schestowitz | Linux users are willing to pay more (e.g. for a computer) | Jun 01 13:53 |
| schestowitz | Or games... | Jun 01 13:53 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75080933 | Jun 01 13:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 12:48:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Not that true. But Orkut overtakes FB here (But FB is eating slowly Orkut's audience) | Jun 01 13:53 |
| schestowitz | mark said it best.. http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks | Jun 01 13:54 |
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| ender_33 | 08:49 < schestowitz> Linux users are willing to pay more (e.g. for a computer) | Jun 01 13:58 |
| ender_33 | I'm not sure about that one | Jun 01 13:58 |
| ender_33 | A lot of people use Linux so they can hang onto old shit | Jun 01 13:58 |
| ender_33 | Cubezzz isn't a minority | Jun 01 13:58 |
| ender_33 | speaking of which I need a new computer | Jun 01 13:59 |
| ender_33 | 4 cores and 4gb ram isn't enough anymore | Jun 01 13:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Interview mit Daniel Mathews http://alturl.com/he6qb | Jun 01 13:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I realise that this an invitation to take the Micky Bliss but that new Gaga album sounds pretty good with headphones on. #music | Jun 01 14:01 | |
| ender_33 | yum http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_64&item_id=035429 | Jun 01 14:01 |
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| ender_33 | I want that CPU | Jun 01 14:01 |
| ender_33 | or an i7 if I can get one around $200 | Jun 01 14:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How #palmoil jeopardises global efforts to reduce emissions - http://bit.ly/mdbrdD shameful foot-dragging by UK and EU politicians | Jun 01 14:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Why are patents anti-capitalist, after all? See my of-the-cuff comment on http://is.gd/q5y6DN | Jun 01 14:04 | |
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| schestowitz | v[13:58] <ender_33> A lot of people use Linux so they can hang onto old shit | Jun 01 14:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @carlopiana Why are patents anti-capitalist, after all? See my of-the-cuff comment on http://is.gd/q5y6DN | Jun 01 14:08 | |
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| schestowitz | Usually if they set that up for new Linux users like parents | Jun 01 14:08 |
| schestowitz | For themselves, Linux users (usually the more advanced computers users) get top gear | Jun 01 14:08 |
| schestowitz | People who use Windows want to get away\ from computing | Jun 01 14:08 |
| schestowitz | People are drawn into computing when they feel in control, e.g. with Linux | Jun 01 14:09 |
| schestowitz | When people use computer to look posh, they get some Macbook | Jun 01 14:09 |
| ender_33 | yeah I always wanted to find ways to make Linux run faster | Jun 01 14:09 |
| ender_33 | having the latest hardware benefits | Jun 01 14:09 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75081431 | Jun 01 14:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 12:55:06 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz That(and the fact Zucky stole the idea of FB from a brazilian, Eduardo Saverin), is making me quit FB | Jun 01 14:09 |
| ender_33 | multicore makes gcc a heck of a lot faster | Jun 01 14:09 |
| oiaohm | Really for me I run computers to death. I have not dumped one motherboard that works. | Jun 01 14:09 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: youcan use profiling s/w | Jun 01 14:10 |
| schestowitz | I do that all the time | Jun 01 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Finding out bottlenecks and removing them | Jun 01 14:10 |
| oiaohm | Mind you some of the ways the motherboards have died have been insane. | Jun 01 14:10 |
| oiaohm | Like being used as robot controllers. | Jun 01 14:10 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm runs on a motherboard | Jun 01 14:10 |
| oiaohm | I have cluster building. | Jun 01 14:11 |
| ender_33 | i've used profiling software before | Jun 01 14:11 |
| schestowitz | motherboard - the uterus of computers ;-) | Jun 01 14:11 |
| ender_33 | generally I already know where things can be improved, places where I went cheap to get the system faster | Jun 01 14:11 |
| schestowitz | Windows is the placenta of computing | Jun 01 14:11 |
| schestowitz | It just 'comes' with the computer | Jun 01 14:11 |
| oiaohm | I have done shoes with PCB from motherboard on bottom of them. | Jun 01 14:11 |
| ender_33 | i went cheap on ram with my quad core | Jun 01 14:11 |
| MinceR | it's not a placenta, it's a congenital parasite | Jun 01 14:12 |
| oiaohm | So yes I have run on segments of motherboards. | Jun 01 14:12 |
| ender_33 | i never bothered to buy ram when it was cheap either, now DDR2 went back up | Jun 01 14:12 |
| oiaohm | PCB makes a nice skid plates. | Jun 01 14:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: did you know the placenta is genetically identical to the baby? | Jun 01 14:12 |
| MinceR | i did | Jun 01 14:12 |
| MinceR | it develops from the egg | Jun 01 14:12 |
| MinceR | along with many other things | Jun 01 14:12 |
| schestowitz | Dawkins raises this point when the 'pro-life' (pro killing abortionists) people make their silly points | Jun 01 14:13 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: Lets say My youth was a little warped. | Jun 01 14:13 |
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| schestowitz | "Warp speed, Capitan!" :-) | Jun 01 14:14 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: you're really clever | Jun 01 14:14 |
| schestowitz | http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/05/oin-gave-salesforcecom-four-patents-to.html | Jun 01 14:15 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmm.. interesting if true | Jun 01 14:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Florian says "OIN gave Salesforce.com four patents to assert against Microsoft". Just shows you why #Microsoft Florian hates OIN. | Jun 01 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Building a scalable open government process by @lukefretwell | http://red.ht/iyEm6V #gov20 #opengov #transparency | Jun 01 14:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Florian has also just defended briefing re legal cases by PR people. So, how many times does Microsoft PR pass him 'dirt' to use? | Jun 01 14:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Building a scalable open government process | opensource.com .::. Size~: 41.37 KB | Jun 01 14:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft #PR : “I Have Spoken with Maureen O’Gara (Based on go Ahead from BrianV) and Planted the Story” http://is.gd/yVAv3R #linux #osdl | Jun 01 14:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Schmidt Says Google’s Social Networking Problem Is His Fault (AllThingsD): http://bit.ly/m2er8T | Jun 01 14:21 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/75906807192748032 | Jun 01 14:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @schestowitz maybe; but the trend is probably correct | Jun 01 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Sure, I'll give that away... :-) | Jun 01 14:22 |
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| AdmFubar_ | hello all | Jun 01 14:22 |
| AdmFubar_ | found this article, thought it would be worthwite to look into further.. http://www.cio.com/article/683190/Microsoft_Joins_Patent_Review_Group_to_Avoid_Costly_Litigation?source=rss_all&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cio%2Ffeed%2Farticles+%28CIO.com+Feed+-+Articles%29 | Jun 01 14:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Joins Patent Review Group to Avoid Costly Litigation CIO.com .::. Size~: 110.55 KB | Jun 01 14:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why you should pay for "free" software http://is.gd/jrQdwl Getting help with open source software http://is.gd/QyvcKf freedom=priceless? | Jun 01 14:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why you should pay for "free" software | opensource.com .::. Size~: 45.71 KB | Jun 01 14:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Getting help with open source software | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 53.15 KB | Jun 01 14:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/krONik/status/75904019909971968 | Jun 01 14:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @krONik: @schestowitz: But is there no REAL way to deal with Twitter spam? If it explodes the way email spam has ... | Jun 01 14:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75913723541340160 | Jun 01 14:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz If this were a viable strategy against software patents, I'd like them to give 4,000 patents to Salesforce. But it doesn't help | Jun 01 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Evades the point I was making. | Jun 01 14:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Is it a surprise that those who benefit most from the rules tend to be those who have the greatest influence in making the rules?" comment | Jun 01 14:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How AirBnB Became a Billion Dollar Company (Dave Gooden): http://bit.ly/kCQrRa (via @techmeme) | Jun 01 14:24 | |
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| AdmFubar_ | also there is the lastest post about ibm... try and find the book titled "Big Blue" ( i think that is the title) It is about the us governemnt's attemt to break up IBM in late 70's early 80's.. a worthwhile read | Jun 01 14:25 |
| oiaohm | Note their is difference between gave and allowed to use. | Jun 01 14:25 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jun 01 14:26 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.worldlabel.com/2011/foss-community-petitions-oracle-to-release-openoffice-org-assets.html | Jun 01 14:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FOSS community petitions Oracle to release Openoffice.org assets | Worldlabel Blog .::. Size~: 27.62 KB | Jun 01 14:27 |
| schestowitz | ooo is going to apache | Jun 01 14:27 |
| schestowitz | So odd... | Jun 01 14:27 |
| schestowitz | IBM very unhappy about it... | Jun 01 14:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: UCD to lead EU initiative for training cyber cops in France and Ireland #cybercrime #UCD #2Centre http://t.co/x9zN1sA... | Jun 01 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Wake up, Linux hippies: No one 'morally obligated' to give back (Register): http://bit.ly/kHADE3 | Jun 01 14:28 | |
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| AdmFubar_ | hhmm gotta find my edition of that book on ibm make sure i have the title right | Jun 01 14:28 |
| AdmFubar_ | laters all | Jun 01 14:29 |
| MinceR | is there tension between IBM and Apache? | Jun 01 14:29 |
| xjasonx | OOo is going to apache? or is just being licensed as Apache 2.0? | Jun 01 14:30 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Historically IBM has not liked the Apache license. | Jun 01 14:30 |
| xjasonx | oiaohm: why not? | Jun 01 14:30 |
| oiaohm | Because it allows thier competition to take their code and extend and not give back. xjasonx | Jun 01 14:30 |
| xjasonx | oh | Jun 01 14:30 |
| xjasonx | yea, makes sense | Jun 01 14:31 |
| oiaohm | xjasonx: IBM does not like thier code in a location that can be used against them. | Jun 01 14:31 |
| oiaohm | If apache picks up OOo Its going to be interesting. | Jun 01 14:31 |
| oiaohm | Now of course apache might double cross orcale. | Jun 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | It'll be announced today | Jun 01 14:32 |
| oiaohm | That is not past apache either. | Jun 01 14:32 |
| oiaohm | Allow OOo to be transfered to apache then transfer it on. | Jun 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | !google Oracle subpoena apache | Jun 01 14:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Oracle subpoenas Apache in search of Google smoking gun • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/05/oracle_subpoena_asf_android_harmony/ | Jun 01 14:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Oracle Subpoenas Apache in Google Android Lawsuit - Mobile and ... | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Oracle-Subpoenas-Apache-in-Google-Android-Lawsuit-412732/ | Jun 01 14:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Oracle subpoenas Apache Foundation in Google suit - JavaWorld | http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-05-2011/110504-oracle-subpoenas-apache.html | Jun 01 14:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Oracle subpoenas Apache in search of Google smoking gun « Android ... | http://androidwires.com/2011/05/05/oracle-subpoenas-apache-in-search-of-google-smoking-gun/ | Jun 01 14:32 |
| MinceR | obstacle deserves to be doublecrossed | Jun 01 14:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Any !miners on Reddit? Any chance for some love for stuff listed here: http://www.reddit.com/user/fabsh ? I'm dyin' here.... ;) | Jun 01 14:33 | |
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| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/KacI5.jpg | Jun 01 14:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jun 01 14:35 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jun 01 14:35 |
| oiaohm | I do suspect Oracle might have google on copyright breach. | Jun 01 14:36 |
| oiaohm | Result of Oracle winning could be a large section of android GPLv3 | Jun 01 14:36 |
| oiaohm | Not bad for everyone really. | Jun 01 14:36 |
| oiaohm | Result of Oracle losing also not that bad either. | Jun 01 14:36 |
| oiaohm | I don't see why some play the google Oracle case as anti foss | Jun 01 14:37 |
| oiaohm | It is really Foss vs Foss just two different ideas of it. | Jun 01 14:37 |
| MinceR | it seemed more like that result of obstacle winning would be the end of android | Jun 01 14:37 |
| oiaohm | Foss vs Foss always is project vs project. | Jun 01 14:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Beards and 'staches... [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/rcRp1.jpg | Jun 01 14:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jun 01 14:38 |
| MinceR | also, pretty much the end of java too | Jun 01 14:38 |
| MinceR | who would dare touch it with a ten-foot pole after that? | Jun 01 14:38 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Really not. | Jun 01 14:38 |
| oiaohm | icedrobot what is basically android core being done inline with GPL. | Jun 01 14:38 |
| oiaohm | Really java has not been that effected. | Jun 01 14:39 |
| MinceR | remember that obstacle refused to release the code necessary for testing compliance with the java standard as free software. | Jun 01 14:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HP redefines IT performance management (Network World): http://bit.ly/iJqY9T | Jun 01 14:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Acer to Launch Tablet Running Intel's MeeGo http://bit.ly/mGyAG7 | Jun 01 14:39 | |
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| oiaohm | If oracle was out to kill Android they would be suing the makers as well. | Jun 01 14:39 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: In fact that it depends on you define of free software. | Jun 01 14:40 |
| oiaohm | Oracle refused to release it cheep to non GPL java engines. | Jun 01 14:41 |
| oiaohm | People forget IBM and Redhat are approved to authorise their own and GPL based. | Jun 01 14:41 |
| oiaohm | Niether IBM or Redhat could approve apaches | Jun 01 14:42 |
| MinceR | so whoever is a friend of obstacle gets to play? | Jun 01 14:42 |
| MinceR | that's hardly in the spirit of free software. | Jun 01 14:42 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Its truly foss vs foss | Jun 01 14:42 |
| MinceR | i'm not convinced | Jun 01 14:42 |
| oiaohm | There are two basic groups in foss. | Jun 01 14:42 |
| shomon | rms and esr | Jun 01 14:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Five unique gnome shell themes for #fedora 15 http://is.gd/o0ibju 5 Stunning Plymouth Screen Themes for #Ubuntu 11.04 http://is.gd/B2I2Ki | Jun 01 14:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HP launches IT Executive Scorecard software (Network World): http://bit.ly/jivyWQ | Jun 01 14:43 | |
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| shomon | :) | Jun 01 14:43 |
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| oiaohm | Ones like IBM that if something is open source all alterations to it has to be released. | Jun 01 14:43 |
| MinceR | and this is not about them | Jun 01 14:43 |
| MinceR | this is obstacle stubbornly holding to all the power and control they can grab | Jun 01 14:43 |
| oiaohm | And the ones like the bsd camp where closed source embeding open source code is fine. | Jun 01 14:43 |
| MinceR | even if it means that the apache foundation doesn't get to contribute. | Jun 01 14:43 |
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| oiaohm | Oracle is in the camp of open source all alterations have to be released | Jun 01 14:44 |
| oiaohm | Google is in the camp of BSD classed stuff is ok. | Jun 01 14:44 |
| oiaohm | shomon: Yep the battle has been going on for years. | Jun 01 14:44 |
| MinceR | that doesn't explain all recent actions of obstacle. | Jun 01 14:44 |
| shomon | I guess now it's bsd vs gpl | Jun 01 14:44 |
| Urgent: The USPTO is soliciting public input on "streamlining" patents. People in Washington DC should go there and protest software patents. | Jun 01 14:45 | |
| http://www.uspto.gov/news/pr/2011/11-28.jsp | Jun 01 14:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Press Release, 11-28 .::. Size~: 23.01 KB | Jun 01 14:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Its like BSD screaming for GPL stuff to be released BSD. | Jun 01 14:45 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: apache issue was the same. | Jun 01 14:45 |
| schestowitz | USPTO is a disgrace of an instuitution | Jun 01 14:45 |
| schestowitz | It does not serve the American people | Jun 01 14:45 |
| schestowitz | TIme to turn it into a museum | Jun 01 14:45 |
| shomon | people's what office? | Jun 01 14:46 |
| schestowitz | From back in the days when real innovations were made, slowly | Jun 01 14:46 |
| shomon | trade? | Jun 01 14:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: by the way if someone wanted to make another GPL java engine they could get the TCK kit quite cheep. | Jun 01 14:46 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: it was not | Jun 01 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Now we innovate too quickly and build upon the work of others | Jun 01 14:46 |
| let them feel the heat in person | Jun 01 14:46 | |
| MinceR | cheap? | Jun 01 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Patents don't scale anymore | Jun 01 14:46 |
| MinceR | what does that mean? | Jun 01 14:46 |
| ->A public meeting will be held at USPTO Headquarters in Alexandria, Va., on June 1 at 1:30 p.m.... | Jun 01 14:46 | |
| The proposed changes include: standardizing the way information is presented in reexamination requests | Jun 01 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Dear @gotomeeting, you must be joking. Asking to download&run a .exe file to join a web meeting. How #fail is that? I'm about to throw up | Jun 01 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "United Nations report warns of dollar "collapse" | Economy |Axisoflogic.com" http://ur1.ca/4bmma #economics | Jun 01 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #antiX derivative still "Looking Good!" http://is.gd/sKaMXX #mepis #gnu #linux #kde | Jun 01 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Can #Linux on the desktop and DRM ever coexist? http://zd.net/jEiYNz | Jun 01 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Will Google's Chromebooks Play Well with #Linux? http://bit.ly/iHdMaO | Jun 01 14:46 | |
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| schestowitz | We have the Internet to learn ideas and check prior 'art' (works) | Jun 01 14:46 |
| shomon | whoopse, dollar collapse. time to cook up some bit coins | Jun 01 14:46 |
| MinceR | everyone who wanted to make their own java vm had to pay for a copy of the TCK they weren't allowed to share? | Jun 01 14:46 |
| schestowitz | USPTO should go into an ashtray somehwere | Jun 01 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Put that funding into NASA or something | Jun 01 14:47 |
| yeah, but Today you can give them a piece of your mind in person. | Jun 01 14:47 | |
| schestowitz | And tell NASA not to abuse public money by filing opatents | Jun 01 14:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: In fact no. | Jun 01 14:47 |
| schestowitz | !google nasa sells sofwtare patents | Jun 01 14:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Download abbyy finereader for mac, Abbyy finereader for mac buy ... | http://edtech.tamu.edu/moodle_EDTC/grade/grade.php%3FzeRS2bll | Jun 01 14:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - NASA to auction off software patents - Automating software ... | http://www.techeye.net/software/nasa-to-auction-off-software-patents | Jun 01 14:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - 1 The Basics: LaRC Technical Capabilities Overview Areas of ... | http://technologygateway.nasa.gov/docs/LaRCBasicsandFAQ.pdf | Jun 01 14:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Nasa to hold auction for software patents | Intellectual Property ... | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/intellectual-property/2010/10/27/nasa-to-hold-auction-for-software-patents-40090664/ | Jun 01 14:47 |
| MinceR | and you're arguing that this isn't completely against the spirit of free software? | Jun 01 14:47 |
| I don't think they expect a protest but they should | Jun 01 14:47 | |
| there's also been an important court ruling in the US. | Jun 01 14:47 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: better to do shame-'bombs' | Jun 01 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Naming and shaming those who support the bad patents | Jun 01 14:47 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: IBM and Redhat due to building GPL engines of Java were marked as development partners so get TCK for free. | Jun 01 14:47 |
| http://news.swpat.org/ | Jun 01 14:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 01 14:48 |
| schestowitz | I don't think protests in public and petitions help much | Jun 01 14:48 |
| schestowitz | it's best to show the culprits | Jun 01 14:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Wake up, #Linux hippies: No one 'morally obligated' to give back http://bit.ly/miIvSV | Jun 01 14:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Why I've been throwing Open Standards under the bus http://zd.net/m123GW | Jun 01 14:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wake up, Linux hippies: No one 'morally obligated' to give back • The Register .::. Size~: 26.69 KB | Jun 01 14:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why I've been throwing Open Standards under the bus | ZDNet .::. Size~: 117.1 KB | Jun 01 14:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Apache not producing a GPL java engine could not get TCK for free. | Jun 01 14:48 |
| schestowitz | Then they lose power and influence, rethink | Jun 01 14:48 |
| MinceR | 154405 < oiaohm> MinceR: IBM and Redhat due to building GPL engines of Java were marked as development partners so get TCK for free. | Jun 01 14:48 |
| MinceR | well, that must be great news for independent developers | Jun 01 14:48 |
| MinceR | forget about low barriers to entry | Jun 01 14:48 |
| Well, if I was in Washington, I might spend an hour or two of my day standing around with a picket sign to End Software Patents. | Jun 01 14:48 | |
| MinceR | if Law Suit Larry likes you, maybe he'll let you have the TCK gratis | Jun 01 14:49 |
| It's time people realized that software patents are an issue people care about. A protest would be hard to ignore. | Jun 01 14:49 | |
| MinceR | and if Law Suit Larry likes whoever else would like to check whether you're telling the truth when you say that your alternative java VM is compliant, maybe he'll let them have the TCK gratis and check for themselves | Jun 01 14:50 |
| MinceR | or not | Jun 01 14:50 |
| schestowitz | you'd need stunt for mediua attention | Jun 01 14:50 |
| schestowitz | I say, let's go directly to the media | Jun 01 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Voicing truth | Jun 01 14:50 |
| shomon | these days you make up a hashtag and camp somewhere prominent | Jun 01 14:51 |
| People who go there can take their own pictures and movies, that's about as effective as "media" these days. | Jun 01 14:51 | |
| schestowitz | Esp. when tanks run you over | Jun 01 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Usually there's no "Event" to picture | Jun 01 14:52 |
| Rachel .... what's her last name? | Jun 01 14:52 | |
| schestowitz | Just posting the brochures you printer out as "posters"/photos | Jun 01 14:52 |
| schestowitz | twitter: I was thinking Egypt | Jun 01 14:52 |
| schestowitz | You think Bulldozers | Jun 01 14:52 |
| schestowitz | daedonFC's dad used to work for Caterpillar | Jun 01 14:53 |
| Yes, it was a bulldozer | Jun 01 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Mandriva Linux 2011 Beta 3 arrives for testing http://bit.ly/iQkBaE #linux | Jun 01 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Kororaa 14 - Linux Mint of Fedora? http://ostatic.com/blog/kororaa-14-linux-mint-of-fedora #linux | Jun 01 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Intel's 'Museum of Me' is Cool, Creepy Facebook Fun http://bit.ly/iYskj3 | Jun 01 14:53 | |
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| There's a ship or two named after her because her death was so shocking. | Jun 01 14:53 | |
| There's also the UK UN representative that was shot and several reporters, one of who filmed the man who took aim and shot him. | Jun 01 14:54 | |
| Oh well, that's what I have this morning. | Jun 01 14:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75084510 | Jun 01 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Claudio (claudiom)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 13:36:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz That is beautiful. :-D /me strokes his goatee... | Jun 01 14:55 |
| I hope that End Software Patents picks up on the public meeting to give the USPTO a taste of informed public opinion. | Jun 01 14:55 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe I'll grow one myself. Sort of started last week. It's blondish. | Jun 01 14:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: IBM and Redhat can issue to other GPL based without having to go back to Oracle. Both are also free to make thier own full forks away from java. As long as code remains under a GPL license.. | Jun 01 14:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75914290472820736 | Jun 01 14:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Instead of being obsessed with me, criticize the total absence/inactivity of an anti-swpat movement in the Lodsys situation. | Jun 01 14:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75914478348275712 | Jun 01 14:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Why aren't FSF, FSFE, FFII, Red Hat etc. trying to reach out to the app dev community to pursue a common cause? They don't care | Jun 01 14:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] New craze sweeping parents to be: Giving their unborn child a Facebook page http://bit.ly/lqVjod Ugh. | Jun 01 14:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New craze sweeping parents to be: Giving their unborn child a Facebook page | Mail Online .::. Size~: 106.44 KB | Jun 01 14:56 |
| schestowitz | Lie. You don't follow the mailing lists, do you? | Jun 01 14:56 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: basically a line was drawn in the sad. | Jun 01 14:56 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: free software is not about having a few privileged individuals or companies. | Jun 01 14:56 |
| schestowitz | ^ me to Florian | Jun 01 14:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75914975503323137 | Jun 01 14:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz It didn't evade but address the point. Your point was I don't like them for this. I explained I'd like it if it were useful. | Jun 01 14:57 |
| schestowitz | "Yet you leave out Microsoft, IV, and other pools that just 'happen' to align with your side" | Jun 01 14:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lenovo's MeeGo Netbook: Hands On http://is.gd/VUKF9o #Linux spreads rapidly, but they don't call it "Linux", That's fine. #LSB #MeeGo | Jun 01 14:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Test CyberLink PhotoDirector 2011 beta, get final code for free http://bit.ly/ltmJQj | Jun 01 14:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Getting help with open source software http://bit.ly/lEVJiA My take: http://bit.ly/9q6A2J #opensource | Jun 01 14:58 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Really this is the problem. What is free software. That is the core of the problem. | Jun 01 14:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lenovo's MeeGo Netbook: Hands On | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 97.33 KB | Jun 01 14:58 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: no, the core of the problem is Law Suit Larry | Jun 01 14:58 |
| MinceR | a greedy control freak | Jun 01 14:58 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: IBM Redhat and SUN one they made the java deal for gcc and others all are from the camp that BSD and MIT are not truly free. | Jun 01 14:58 |
| later | Jun 01 14:58 | |
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| MinceR | who bought an already free software-hostile company and made it even more hostile | Jun 01 14:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Really SUN would not give apache a deal either. | Jun 01 14:59 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and rejected apache over and over again. | Jun 01 14:59 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: who says that they are "not truly free"? not even the FSF says that. | Jun 01 14:59 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: remember I said the two camps. | Jun 01 14:59 |
| MinceR | those "two camps" do not exist in that form. | Jun 01 15:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the problem is they do. | Jun 01 15:00 |
| oiaohm | The forces between them have been their for a long time. | Jun 01 15:00 |
| MinceR | no, the problem is that you didn't review the definition of free software and the list of known free software licenses. :> | Jun 01 15:00 |
| schestowitz | [14:58] <MinceR> a greedy control freak | Jun 01 15:01 |
| schestowitz | So is his sixth wife, Steve | Jun 01 15:01 |
| MinceR | also, what obstacle does with the TCK and java-related licensing is not a way to resolve that conflict | Jun 01 15:01 |
| oiaohm | The cause of the divided tracks Microsoft infact. | Jun 01 15:01 |
| oiaohm | By taking BSD and MIT licensed parts and extending on them. | Jun 01 15:02 |
| oiaohm | So locking out competitors. | Jun 01 15:02 |
| MinceR | that can be fixed without stirring up a shitstorm like this. | Jun 01 15:02 |
| MinceR | for example, via trademark law | Jun 01 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Really SUN and Orcale both fear that someone would do what Google did. | Jun 01 15:02 |
| MinceR | also, you can still require adherence to the TCK even if you don't hoard it as a secret only a few friends can know. | Jun 01 15:02 |
| oiaohm | with the apache source base. | Jun 01 15:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kororaa 14 - Linux Mint of Fedora? http://is.gd/b4q7EV "Kororaa is a pretty desktop system that provides welcome convenience for users." | Jun 01 15:03 | |
| MinceR | in fact, it's a better way to ensure adherence to a standard if the standard isn't kept secret. | Jun 01 15:03 |
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| oiaohm | But google did not go as far as Sun feared. | Jun 01 15:03 |
| oiaohm | They feared that large sections of the new ABI would be closed. | Jun 01 15:03 |
| oiaohm | Just like MS did with small machine business networking they got from IBM. | Jun 01 15:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes Microsoft is the earliest case of a major divide. | Jun 01 15:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple is arrogant and promotes arrogance. The only company that puts "sent from <our product>" at bottom of E-Email. Distasteful IMHO. | Jun 01 15:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] What the heck is happening with OpenOffice? http://zd.net/jKGCTS | Jun 01 15:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What the heck is happening with OpenOffice? (UPDATE) | ZDNet .::. Size~: 136.55 KB | Jun 01 15:04 |
| oiaohm | Most before that would openly document what they had done to a protocal even if they did not give the source. MinceR | Jun 01 15:05 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: The divide has been in Foss for a long time. | Jun 01 15:05 |
| oiaohm | At some point the two sides had to get into a dispute majorally. | Jun 01 15:05 |
| MinceR | i don't see a dispute, i see a lawsuit. | Jun 01 15:05 |
| shomon | well the problem was that RMS came up with the gpl and gnu, and then linus came up with linux | Jun 01 15:06 |
| MinceR | i don't see a problem there | Jun 01 15:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] S. Jobs' mentality: "Motorola, we are losing to your #Linux devices, therefore I must sue you, will send legal papers. Sent from my iPhone." | Jun 01 15:06 | |
| shomon | and so everyone began trying to find a way for open source to be accepted | Jun 01 15:06 |
| oiaohm | You are aware that sections of android code base might turn out to be stolen GPL code. MinceR | Jun 01 15:06 |
| shomon | and ESR amongst them decided on the name "open source" | Jun 01 15:06 |
| shomon | instead of free software. Which is a tighter definition | Jun 01 15:06 |
| MinceR | shomon: i see | Jun 01 15:06 |
| shomon | so open source includes bsd | Jun 01 15:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: "might". so? | Jun 01 15:07 |
| shomon | but free software doesn't as far as I know | Jun 01 15:07 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: is there anything concrete about this? | Jun 01 15:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that is what started the mess. Was oracle seeing license abuse. | Jun 01 15:07 |
| MinceR | as far as i can tell, the lawsuit isn't about license abuse | Jun 01 15:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: O yes in Oracles first claims in the case. Google has not disproved it. | Jun 01 15:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: The case is copyright and patents. | Jun 01 15:07 |
| MinceR | what about the other claims? | Jun 01 15:07 |
| schestowitz | Not about licence abuse | Jun 01 15:08 |
| schestowitz | patents and copyrights (alleged) | Jun 01 15:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The "sent from my iPhone" thing and the shiny "Apple" logo on commodity hardware is a bit like shopping bags with brand/designer names on em | Jun 01 15:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Open Source Tools and the End of Price Gouging http://bit.ly/jYshKq #opensource | Jun 01 15:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Windows 8 Should Be Free http://bit.ly/kUK8Er | Jun 01 15:08 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows 8 Should Be Free | John C. Dvorak | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 93.07 KB | Jun 01 15:08 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the copyright claims were first. | Jun 01 15:08 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: you beat me to it | Jun 01 15:08 |
| MinceR | they might be a red herring. | Jun 01 15:08 |
| oiaohm | I don't think so. | Jun 01 15:08 |
| oiaohm | Google has admited to some quite suspect reverse enginering pracs. MinceR | Jun 01 15:09 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75086217 | Jun 01 15:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 14:02:22 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Too bad they didn't take away the winblow$ key in the keyboard... | Jun 01 15:09 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that have no case proven them as valid or invalid. | Jun 01 15:09 |
| MinceR | yes they did | Jun 01 15:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/popey/status/75925430552637440 | Jun 01 15:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @popey: @schestowitz No. It isn't. "sent from my blackberry", "sent from my htc" | Jun 01 15:09 |
| MinceR | not in relation to java, though | Jun 01 15:09 |
| schestowitz | I don't see this. Are these in by default? | Jun 01 15:09 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: In releation to androids engine to take parts from java they did admit it. | Jun 01 15:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Parts that where GPL covered and still might be. | Jun 01 15:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: If the court does not agree that Google method was valid. | Jun 01 15:10 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so yes android could be GPL tainted. | Jun 01 15:10 |
| oiaohm | In a big way. | Jun 01 15:10 |
| MinceR | yet the lawsuit is about patents. | Jun 01 15:11 |
| oiaohm | The lawsuit is about both. | Jun 01 15:11 |
| MinceR | amd there are all those cases of obstacle taking control away from others | Jun 01 15:11 |
| MinceR | and the TCK issue | Jun 01 15:11 |
| oiaohm | The first charges layed were over the copyright second was the patents covering those copyright sections. MinceR | Jun 01 15:11 |
| MinceR | i still have to ask who will dare to touch java with a ten-foot pole after all this. | Jun 01 15:12 |
| oiaohm | Infact Oracle has not used all the Patents they could either. | Jun 01 15:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I have no problem touching java from IBM Redhat or Oracle. | Jun 01 15:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: always has been legally safe. | Jun 01 15:12 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: well, obviously obstacle owns patents covering java and they keep an important part of their patent license secret and they attack people they don't like for using them. | Jun 01 15:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: remember IBM and Redhat is fully licensed to use any patent Oracle has on GPL stuff. | Jun 01 15:13 |
| MinceR | well, that's really great for them | Jun 01 15:13 |
| MinceR | but just to give an example, i'm not IBM nor Red Hat. | Jun 01 15:13 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75086813 | Jun 01 15:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Claudio (claudiom)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 14:08:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Sweet! Here's the one I've been sporting for some time now. http://ur1.ca/4bn0a | Jun 01 15:14 |
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| MinceR | yet Freedom 0 is supposed to cover me too. | Jun 01 15:14 |
| oiaohm | So as long as you are building a GPL project you can ask for cover from IBM or Redhat | Jun 01 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Oh, that would take months | Jun 01 15:14 |
| oiaohm | and never have to talk to Oracle. | Jun 01 15:14 |
| MinceR | i don't remember this whole "ask for cover" game from the FSD, somehow. | Jun 01 15:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Linux 3.0 Kernel Will... Reboot Better? http://is.gd/PHeqcF Rebooting http://is.gd/ul2lma interesting. | Jun 01 15:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: Advertising Discovery http://xkcd.com/906/ | Jun 01 15:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "3.0 will ship with this behaviour by default." Sounds so refreshing. 2.6 was eternal, almost synonymous with "Linux". | Jun 01 15:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I am not a number - http://bit.ly/jyDQrQ coincidentally, I've been watching "Danger Man" recently - wonderful stuff... #mcgoohan | Jun 01 15:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] The Linux 3.0 Kernel Will... Reboot Better? .::. Size~: 17.86 KB | Jun 01 15:14 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: Please not IBM and redhat is allowed to back date the cover. | Jun 01 15:15 |
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| oiaohm | Not/note | Jun 01 15:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Ie you start a GPL project Oracle attacks you. Talk to IBM or Redhat and problem of Oracle goes by by. | Jun 01 15:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] "Let's be real. This is not a new OS, and we shouldn't have to pay hundreds of dollars for it." John Dvorak on vi$ta8 http://bit.ly/kUK8Er | Jun 01 15:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows 8 Should Be Free | John C. Dvorak | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 93.07 KB | Jun 01 15:16 |
| oiaohm | Basically the only reason Google is in trouble is going out of thier way to use a license out side gpl. | Jun 01 15:16 |
| MinceR | so this is "free software, as long as at least one of the big guys happens to like you". very reassuring. | Jun 01 15:16 |
| schestowitz | !google groklaw sue the pants | Jun 01 15:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Groklaw - Why I Believe IBM is Free to Sue The Pants Off ... | http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php%3Fstory%3D20100408153953613 | Jun 01 15:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Updegrove's Groklaw article [LWN.net] | http://lwn.net/Articles/438222/ | Jun 01 15:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Hacker News | Groklaw filled a huge void. Done by someone who is a ... | http://news.ycombinator.com/item%3Fid%3D2428171 | Jun 01 15:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - In Defence of Groklaw | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/04/08/praise-of-groklaw/ | Jun 01 15:17 |
| oiaohm | Reason why Oracle called on apache in the court case was to prove the suspect sections did not exist in the apache java code base. | Jun 01 15:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: which is still bullshit | Jun 01 15:17 |
| MinceR | actually, apache started the "going out of their way to use a license outside gpl" | Jun 01 15:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | oracle is suing google to attack apache | Jun 01 15:17 |
| MinceR | also, there was supposedly a patent license around for such cases. | Jun 01 15:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont even give a fuck about android | Jun 01 15:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | they want to damage apache | Jun 01 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Didn't the European already kill most of them already? | Jun 01 15:18 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 01 15:18 |
| schestowitz | "Savages!" | Jun 01 15:18 |
| oiaohm | Diablo-D3: If they wantted to damage apache they still have the patents they could. | Jun 01 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Context: | Jun 01 15:18 |
| schestowitz | !google youtbe disney racism "Savages" | Jun 01 15:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - YouTube - Savages.wmv | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Df6rYWkyafZA | Jun 01 15:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - YouTube - Avatar 'Savages' | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUTlp7oZu438 | Jun 01 15:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - VPAB07 Racism in Disney | http://www.slideshare.net/CPAutsc/racism-in-disney | Jun 01 15:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Was Disney Racist?: Nine Offensive Characters from Disney Cartoons ... | http://www.suite101.com/content/was-disney-racist-a37069 | Jun 01 15:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Opening up data on the European parliament - http://bit.ly/lhi974 great stuff - amazing it's only being done now #opendata #eu | Jun 01 15:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] WhiteLies [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/ljVKr.jpg | Jun 01 15:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Opening up data on the European parliament | Open Knowledge Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 53.52 KB | Jun 01 15:20 |
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| oiaohm | Diablo-D3: also Oracle is not past give code to apache. | Jun 01 15:20 |
| oiaohm | Diablo-D3: Not an action of someone trying to kill the other one. | Jun 01 15:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | oracle cant be trusted | Jun 01 15:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | stop defending oracle, oiaohm | Jun 01 15:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @tradethecycles Can you say Dump Obama 2012? Yes you can! Yes you can! Yes you can! Yes you can! Yes you can! Yes you can! Yes you ca ... | Jun 01 15:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Máirín Duffy: !Fedora blogs retirement and how to migrate to WordPress.com http://goo.gl/3SiGN | Jun 01 15:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Adwaita !GNOME 3 theme for !Chromium http://goo.gl/4xPhc | Jun 01 15:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Be Nice, Free Snacks. http://goo.gl/L4aEF | Jun 01 15:21 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.businessinsider.com/larry-ellison-goes-postal-on-fortune-writer-2010-8 | Jun 01 15:22 |
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| schestowitz | "Adelyn Lee went to jail for a year for falsely accusing me of sexual harassment. Why did you leave that out of your story you scum bag? Let me guess … your job is telling half-truths. Fortune Magazine must be very proud of you." | Jun 01 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Diablo-D3: Historically Larry Ellison and Oracle is very predictable. If oracle does not like you they may not assist you. It is Unnatural for them to attack without some form of direct provication in the form of suspected wrong doing. | Jun 01 15:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] #EFF files petition against against AT&Tmobile (good!): https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/05/eff-files-petition-opposing-proposed-merger | Jun 01 15:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EFF Files Petition Opposing Proposed AT&T/T-Mobile Merger | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 18.36 KB | Jun 01 15:24 |
| oiaohm | Diablo-D3: the idea they cannot be trusted is kinda false. Action against google is exactly inside Oracle mode of operation from the time they were founded. | Jun 01 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Including only legally attacking the one they suspect of direct wrong doing. | Jun 01 15:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Thorsten Wilms: !Ubuntu Friendly Logo 1 http://goo.gl/t4FGK | Jun 01 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Philip Muskovac: Project Neon 2011-05 summary http://goo.gl/E2hBc !kubuntu | Jun 01 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Certifiably (Brendan Donegan's Ubuntu Blog): Working towards !Launchpad Bug Control http://goo.gl/BpVzv | Jun 01 15:26 | |
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| oiaohm | Diablo-D3: I don't think You have looked at Oracle history of cases and being just blinded by the current one. | Jun 01 15:27 |
| oiaohm | Diablo-D3: Now MS history of cases is a company not to be trusted. | Jun 01 15:27 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75087045 | Jun 01 15:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Ariel Vernaza (dsapandora)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 14:11:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I disagree a little, but is ok... what i think is that you can make a GNU/Linux without !GNU but you need !GNU to make it :p | Jun 01 15:27 |
| oiaohm | MS makes a deal with you to have access to your patents then they sell thier patents off to patent trolls who attack you while not appearing to be MS so MS has an advantage. | Jun 01 15:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Fair or not, Ubuntu reflects on the Linux community as a whole." http://is.gd/MkYxSS | Jun 01 15:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @johnsu01: #EFF files petition against against AT&Tmobile (good!): http://ur1.ca/4bn9c | Jun 01 15:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Wake up, Linux hippies" - new headline from till-recently Canonical COO. @mjasay - let me know when to leave the basement. Ta. | Jun 01 15:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @agentsmith: " This is not a new OS, and we shouldn't have to pay hundreds of dollars for it." John Dvorak on vi$ta8 http://bit.ly/kUK8Er | Jun 01 15:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: Lenovo's #MeeGo Netbook: Hands On http://is.gd/VUKF9o #Linux spreads rapidly, but they don't call it "Linux", That's fine. | Jun 01 15:29 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lenovo's MeeGo Netbook: Hands On | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 97.53 KB | Jun 01 15:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75925949086048256 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75926169278619649 | Jun 01 15:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I mention IV all the time in Lodsys context including last night's blog post (Seattle law firm context). | Jun 01 15:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Those mailing lists have the same problem as swpats: just ideas, hardly any execution. | Jun 01 15:30 |
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| schestowitz | me: "You've executed nothing. You're just sending fatwahs en masse to journalists, always against Linux-supporting companies" | Jun 01 15:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Estou sem água desde as 3h00 da madrugada! Existe Legislação para pedir desconto na próxima factura?! Se não há, deveria de haver! | Jun 01 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ovigia A cia de água é do governo ??? | Jun 01 15:31 | |
| schestowitz | Turns out that Blackberry stamps E-mails by default... https://twitter.com/popey/status/75926316511264769 | Jun 01 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @popey: @schestowitz Yes. | Jun 01 15:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/popey/status/75926487668232193 | Jun 01 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @popey: @schestowitz Google for either phrase and you'll see customers bitching about it just as much as apple customers (if not more) | Jun 01 15:31 |
| schestowitz | That's helpful to know | Jun 01 15:32 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nj3ma/status/75930814545793024 | Jun 01 15:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @nj3ma: @schestowitz I throw up in my mouth a little every time someone fawns over shiny Chinese aluminium,plastic and declare undying love.... | Jun 01 15:32 |
| schestowitz | hypePhone | Jun 01 15:33 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75088083 | Jun 01 15:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Moshe Njema (nj3ma)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 14:25:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ...for a corporate tyrant bent on taking away their freedoms. | Jun 01 15:33 |
| schestowitz | indeed. Mr. Jobs. | Jun 01 15:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The EFF is asking people to set up TOR relays http://bit.ly/lkgoTB | Jun 01 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RaspberryPi - Tiny Computer That Runs #Linux http://is.gd/QgUIRr "doubt that this processor is competitive with say, a Pentium III" | Jun 01 15:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Nokia: Android is Killing Us in China and Europe http://is.gd/HdDst2 #nokia #android #eu #china #software #mobile | Jun 01 15:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Android Leading in Smartphone Marketshare AND Data Usage http://is.gd/XJzYWt #android #software #mobile #microsoft #wp7 | Jun 01 15:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] VirtualBox 4 Builds a Clean and Easy Sandbox Inside Your Linux Desktop http://is.gd/0kvS4A #virtualbox #virtualization #gnu #linux | Jun 01 15:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux News: Reviews: VirtualBox 4 Builds a Clean and Easy Sandbox Inside Your Linux Desktop .::. Size~: 59.22 KB | Jun 01 15:46 |
| ender_33 | Virtualbox #Fails | Jun 01 15:48 |
| ender_33 | KVM > Vbox | Jun 01 15:48 |
| schestowitz | maybe in feodra | Jun 01 15:48 |
| schestowitz | vbox failed for me in fedora | Jun 01 15:49 |
| schestowitz | couldn't get it started | Jun 01 15:49 |
| schestowitz | kvm is red hat's so..... | Jun 01 15:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @JohnFMoore: Innovative #Gov20 – Turning it Upside Down http://bit.ly/kkjVE9 | Jun 01 15:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @zoso: FOMEI http://www.freshpainted.com/seductive-beautiful-girls-around-the-web/ | Jun 01 15:49 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: https://identi.ca/notice/75088568 | Jun 01 15:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Moshe Njema (nj3ma)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 14:31:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @mjasay actually had his lips off Jobs' rear long enough to utter something? Am proud! | Jun 01 15:50 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 01 15:50 |
| MinceR | nice burn | Jun 01 15:50 |
| schestowitz | and asay will see it | Jun 01 15:50 |
| schestowitz | Just a month or so ago Mac told me that his company was FOSS | Jun 01 15:52 |
| schestowitz | <Maybe like Apple.. | Jun 01 15:52 |
| schestowitz | or amazon for that matter | Jun 01 15:52 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75088728 | Jun 01 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Moshe Njema (nj3ma)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 14:34:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Will attempt to. Is said Chris on identi.ca. And how big is the guy? #kororaa | Jun 01 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Chris Smart is on identica | Jun 01 15:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] On Upgrading to #LinuxMint 11 http://is.gd/USgXlh I used 10 for a while, *really* good | Jun 01 15:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Why you should pay for "free" software http://is.gd/jrQdwl #gnu #linux #microsoft #software | Jun 01 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft makes more from Android than Windows on smartphones (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/kBqIOi | Jun 01 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] There is No Windows 8, It is Vista With New Tweaks http://is.gd/cHfXEi #microsoft #software #windows #win8 #vista | Jun 01 15:58 | |
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| ender_33 | There is no Ubuntu 11.04, its just 10.10 with tweaks and updated software | Jun 01 16:00 |
| MinceR | well, they don't charge Ubuntu 10.10 users for money to upgrade to 11.04, do they? :> | Jun 01 16:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Celebrating 20 Years of !Linux [IMG] http://is.gd/MeEH2J | Jun 01 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "Connect Follow Business Insider with your @Joab_Jackson account to interact with your followers and share content through your timeline." | Jun 01 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Object-oriented design patterns in the kernel, part 1 http://lwn.net/Articles/444910/rss | Jun 01 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #DOOM Ported to #JavaScript and HTML5 http://is.gd/41n0kJ first Angry Birds and now this? A universal, Linux-friendly gaming API. | Jun 01 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The News Article Is Breaking Up (BI): http://read.bi/mymzqq | Jun 01 16:01 | |
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| ender_33 | thats the only difference | Jun 01 16:01 |
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| ender_33 | the $$$ | Jun 01 16:01 |
| ender_33 | if ubuntu did charge, ppl might be pissed | Jun 01 16:01 |
| ender_33 | especially since ubuntu gets worse as time goes along ;) | Jun 01 16:02 |
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| MinceR | windows users don't seem to mind :> | Jun 01 16:02 |
| MinceR | not sure about macos | Jun 01 16:02 |
| ender_33 | windows users have a short attention span and a lack of knowledge | Jun 01 16:03 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 01 16:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Morning, folks, hows tricks today? | Jun 01 16:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Zenix 2.0http://is.gd/4WnlpY "The general goals of Zenix are: Buddhism within the Linux community" #gnu #linux #Buddhism | Jun 01 16:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Windows 8 ARM: Will its Launch be as Lame as Honeycomb and Windows Phone 7? http://is.gd/tJdfiD #windows #microsoft #software #mobile #win8 | Jun 01 16:03 | |
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| ender_33 | windows mojave proved ms could just rebrand one fail product into a good one | Jun 01 16:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: RT @RBLevin: RT @linuxkido: Skype Out - Pidgin In http://bit.ly/kWN32I #linux | Jun 01 16:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People who speak to sculptures are commonly assumed to be deranged. Religion exempts them from ridicule. | Jun 01 16:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Skype Out - Pidgin In | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 51.25 KB | Jun 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: just maybe | Jun 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Well, dome people speak to animals too. At least most animals at least have a sense of hearing. Also, religion can get people excepted when it comes to lawsuits, adherence to truth in advertising for example. | Jun 01 16:04 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: it was a closed experiment | Jun 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | Only Microsoft has the data | Jun 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | So it might as well be faked, too | Jun 01 16:05 |
| ender_33 | it works against them | Jun 01 16:05 |
| schestowitz | It's a marketing exercise, nonetheless one that's insulting to the buyers of Vista | Jun 01 16:05 |
| shomon | I speak to my sculpture. It's got an arduino in it though. | Jun 01 16:05 |
| ender_33 | I don't see whats wrong with speaking to sculptures if people can get away with hugging trees and talking to plants | Jun 01 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Unity interface makes Ubuntu worse. http://www.idreamoflinux.com/2011/05/unity-interface-makes-ubuntu-worse.html | Jun 01 16:07 |
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| schestowitz | shomon: :-> | Jun 01 16:07 |
| shomon | well, talking to plants can work apparently... not that I've ever tried it. | Jun 01 16:07 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: these people too should not get away with it, not without discouragement | Jun 01 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Talking to animals might be OK | Jun 01 16:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Skype Out - Pidgin In http://is.gd/1CF36b #skype #microsoft #voip #software #windows | Jun 01 16:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Scurgere de informaţii la #Motorola: tableta #Xoom 2, ceasul telefon #Tracy XL şi numeroase smartphone-uri noi! http://mbls.ro/kKdE6o #mobil | Jun 01 16:08 | |
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| schestowitz | The animals can make sense of voice | Jun 01 16:08 |
| schestowitz | I personally never practice presentations by reading them out loud/in my head | Jun 01 16:08 |
| schestowitz | I stare at the text | Jun 01 16:08 |
| schestowitz | shomon: can they sense the vibrations only? | Jun 01 16:08 |
| ender_33 | 11:04 < schestowitz> Talking to animals might be OK | Jun 01 16:09 |
| ender_33 | like reptiles? | Jun 01 16:09 |
| schestowitz | you're better off giving them light, they have better sensory reaction to it | Jun 01 16:09 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: yeah, well...I talk to you :-) ;-) | Jun 01 16:09 |
| shomon | my sculpture can sense emf frequencies, heat, light and moisture so if I can put that together in 3 months, I'm sure plants would have evolved some sense or other | Jun 01 16:09 |
| shomon | I saw a TED thing where they said most of the "brains" are in the roots though | Jun 01 16:10 |
| shomon | so you might be talking to the wrong end | Jun 01 16:10 |
| schestowitz | shomon: yeah | Jun 01 16:10 |
| schestowitz | That's where the plants get started | Jun 01 16:10 |
| schestowitz | And that's the most vital part of plants, except reproduction near fruit/seed/flower | Jun 01 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Babies start with massive brains | Jun 01 16:11 |
| shomon | interesting, I didn't know that | Jun 01 16:11 |
| schestowitz | And as the baby grows in the womb the body catches up with the head | Jun 01 16:11 |
| ender_33 | plans use quantum mechanics | Jun 01 16:11 |
| schestowitz | quantum mechanics! | Jun 01 16:11 |
| schestowitz | quantum mechanics! | Jun 01 16:11 |
| schestowitz | The magic of | Jun 01 16:11 |
| schestowitz | ... | Jun 01 16:11 |
| schestowitz | quantum mechanics! | Jun 01 16:11 |
| shomon | flowers are just modified leaves... any leaf should manage to turn into one if coaxed... | Jun 01 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Can't explain somehting? | Jun 01 16:11 |
| schestowitz | quantum mechanics! | Jun 01 16:11 |
| schestowitz | quantum mechanics causes happiness | Jun 01 16:12 |
| shomon | is that a song? | Jun 01 16:12 |
| ender_33 | http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-it-comes-to-photosynthesis-plants-perform-quantum-computation | Jun 01 16:12 |
| schestowitz | I feel negative energies in you today, ender_33 :-) :-) | Jun 01 16:12 |
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| schestowitz | Your water memory might be amiss :-) | Jun 01 16:12 |
| schestowitz | shomon: no | Jun 01 16:12 |
| schestowitz | It's just a typical reaction | Jun 01 16:12 |
| ender_33 | negative energies | Jun 01 16:13 |
| schestowitz | When you talk to quacks | Jun 01 16:13 |
| shomon | well I already had to memorize photosynthesis at school. glad I didn't have to memorise any quantum mechanics. | Jun 01 16:13 |
| ender_33 | someone probably put a hex on me | Jun 01 16:13 |
| schestowitz | When they can't explain something they make it seem like their fantasy jargon makes sense | Jun 01 16:13 |
| shomon | that's what lands you in alternate universes | Jun 01 16:13 |
| schestowitz | Or that nature works in myseterious ways | Jun 01 16:13 |
| schestowitz | Appeal to quantum mechanics | Jun 01 16:13 |
| ender_33 | they used to say god worked in mysterious ways | Jun 01 16:13 |
| ender_33 | :> | Jun 01 16:14 |
| shomon | I work in mysterious ways --- wasting time on irc! ok back to work. | Jun 01 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Heh :-) | Jun 01 16:14 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 01 16:14 |
| schestowitz | negative energies | Jun 01 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes they misuse physics terms too | Jun 01 16:14 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube chopra dawkins | Jun 01 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - YouTube - Deepak Chopra Interview with Richard Dawkins | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DZ-FaXD_igv4 | Jun 01 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - YouTube - Richard Dawkins exposes charlatan Deepak Chopra | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DcdcB7FIrXXI | Jun 01 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - YouTube - Richard Dawkins finds himself in deep Chopra. But doesn ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D4U8p2slLKWY | Jun 01 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Nightline 'Faceoff' - Michael ... - Richard Dawkins | http://richarddawkins.net/articles/5306-the-nightline-39-faceoff-39 | Jun 01 16:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Five really unique Gnome shell themes for Fedora 15 http://is.gd/o0ibju #gnu #linux #fedora #redhat #microsoft #software #artwork #gnome | Jun 01 16:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @BBCWorld: Nokia shares see more steep falls http://bbc.in/lgJeyu #nokia #microsoft #fail #shares #mobile #bbc | Jun 01 16:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @schestowitz People who speak to sculptures are commonly assumed to be deranged. Religion exempts them from ridicule. | Jun 01 16:14 | |
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| schestowitz | [16:13] <ender_33> they used to say god worked in mysterious ways | Jun 01 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Well, you do work in mysterious ways | Jun 01 16:15 |
| ender_33 | I know ***I*** work in mysterious ways ;) | Jun 01 16:15 |
| schestowitz | [16:14] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: BBC News - Nokia shares sink further as investor doubts grow .::. Size~: 61.09 KB | Jun 01 16:15 |
| ender_33 | things like the desdemona code | Jun 01 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Way to put the word "grow" in the headline | Jun 01 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Gates-funded BBC | Jun 01 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft -run Nokia | Jun 01 16:16 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if the BBC will pretend WP7 will 'save' Nokia | Jun 01 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Or just be brutally frank | Jun 01 16:16 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 01 16:16 |
| schestowitz | And say Nokia is F**** because it got intruded | Jun 01 16:16 |
| schestowitz | WHich is the story everyone talks about. | Jun 01 16:16 |
| schestowitz | ... | Jun 01 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Except the press | Jun 01 16:16 |
| ender_33 | I read a business magazine yesterday with Elop on the cover | Jun 01 16:16 |
| ender_33 | suggesting he might help nokia | Jun 01 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Just shows how the press is disconnected from reality | Jun 01 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Elop the hero | Jun 01 16:17 |
| schestowitz | He has money | Jun 01 16:17 |
| schestowitz | He has suit | Jun 01 16:17 |
| schestowitz | He is... | Jun 01 16:17 |
| schestowitz | SUPERMAN! | Jun 01 16:17 |
| ender_33 | my coworkers believe it | Jun 01 16:17 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 01 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Brought to your by Forchan Magazin e! | Jun 01 16:17 |
| ender_33 | Elop can throw a chair at you without you knowing | Jun 01 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer can't throw a Elop | Jun 01 16:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "This Guy Has My MacBook" (JMK): http://bit.ly/jadTAV | Jun 01 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Check it out! IT Trends Romania on the Android Market! http://t.co/1w4XAVY #android #ittrends #romania #magazine #agora | Jun 01 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Incubation at Apache: What's it all about? (ASF): http://bit.ly/iMCohM | Jun 01 16:18 | |
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| schestowitz | Elop would have to diet down | Jun 01 16:18 |
| schestowitz | But he's short | Jun 01 16:18 |
| schestowitz | [16:18] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: This Guy Has My MacBook .::. Size~: 14.16 KB | Jun 01 16:19 |
| schestowitz | This guy has my Apple-tagged PC | Jun 01 16:19 |
| ender_33 | Elop is Pole backwards | Jun 01 16:20 |
| ender_33 | Microsoft inserted their Pole into Nokia | Jun 01 16:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] #OpenOffice.org code base submitted to #Apache Foundation http://ur1.ca/4bno2 !fsfe | Jun 01 16:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff Statement about Oracle's move to donate OpenOffice.org assets to the Apache Foundation: http://is.gd/JXLEYY !libo !tdf | Jun 01 16:21 | |
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| schestowitz | ender_33: hehe | Jun 01 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Good one | Jun 01 16:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @floeff Statement about Oracle's move to donate OpenOffice.org assets to the Apache Foundation: http://is.gd/JXLEYY !libo !tdf | Jun 01 16:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] MCSI: România este pregătită pentru a face faţă incidentelor informatice http://is.gd/7ouALy #mcsi #romania #cybersecurity #security | Jun 01 16:23 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75089906 | Jun 01 16:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Ariel Vernaza (dsapandora)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 14:54:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz even for android you need to compile his kernel with gnu tools... | Jun 01 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I was defending GNU | Jun 01 16:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Skype Out - !Pidgin In | Linux Journal By Johan Thelin http://ping.fm/Dw2xc | Jun 01 16:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ten days to #SELF 2011. http://is.gd/zI9hXD | Jun 01 16:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Opening up data on the European parliament - http://bit.ly/lhi974 great stuff - amazing it's only being done now #opendata #eu | Jun 01 16:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Skype Out - Pidgin In | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 50.04 KB | Jun 01 16:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft Said to Limit Device Makers’ Chip-Partner Choices - http://bloom.bg/mEOZHj shoots the Windows #tablet market in both feet #freedom | Jun 01 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Elop is Pole backwards. Microsoft inserted their Pole into Nokia" -Ender #nokia #elop #mole #entryism | Jun 01 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Nokia în picaj http://is.gd/vG2qL8 #nokia #microsoft #romania #software #mobile #wp7 | Jun 01 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Oracle proposals may open Java Community Process" and maybe a sign they're watching the refugees http://ping.fm/SVcjK | Jun 01 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wikipedia fundraising is so awkward http://imgur.com/IL76I #wikipedia #lol | Jun 01 16:26 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75932193343541249 | Jun 01 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I help app devs in many ways and my FAQ and other analysis was/is appreciated by many of them. | Jun 01 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Perfect Desktop - Linux Mint 11 • by Falko Timme http://ping.fm/0hYzO | Jun 01 16:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @FOSSpatents: The FFII has those too | Jun 01 16:28 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Mac responds: | Jun 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mjasay/status/75941134404292608 | Jun 01 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Perfect Desktop - Linux Mint 11 (Katya) | HowtoForge - Linux Howtos and Tutorials .::. Size~: 52.58 KB | Jun 01 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @mjasay: @nj3ma @schestowitz Do you read anything I write? I've been critical of Apple for a looonnnngggg time | Jun 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mjasay/status/75941200267444224 | Jun 01 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @mjasay: @schestowitz I don't write the headlines. Ta. | Jun 01 16:28 |
| MinceR | yeah, so critical | Jun 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz | me: "Ah, that's what I suspected. You shouldn't let Orlowski and the gang do this. They harm your reputation" | Jun 01 16:28 |
| MinceR | i didn't think that was possible :> | Jun 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz | The Reg is a troll | Jun 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz | A-holes | Jun 01 16:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Oracle donates Openoffice.org assets to Apache Foundation http://is.gd/JXLEYY #oracle #ooo #lo #apache #openoffice #libreoffice #software | Jun 01 16:29 | |
| schestowitz | Attributing stereotypes to Mac, too | Jun 01 16:29 |
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| MinceR | that's a stereotype he gets all by his own fault | Jun 01 16:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75945893106417664 https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75946071435644928 | Jun 01 16:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz What does the FFII have as well? Can't see what that reply related to. They certainly don't have a Lodsys FAQ like I do. | Jun 01 16:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz The FFII does so little that no one would even notice if it disappeared at this stage. It's already more than irrelevant. | Jun 01 16:30 |
| schestowitz | The FFII is a lot more relevant than some blog+mass-mailing operation pretending to be vs #swpats but actually for RAND | Jun 01 16:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Virtual Choir 2.0 Slowed to 61 mins - http://bit.ly/m8Hc5F amazing *re*-creation; kudos 2 @EricWhitacre - not just permitting, but promoting | Jun 01 16:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @FOSSpatents The FFII is a lot more relevant than some blog+mass-mailing operation pretending to be vs #swpats but actually for RAND | Jun 01 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mjasay: @schestowitz I don't write the headlines. Ta. << The Register trolled Linux again. To clarify, Asay did *not* write the headline. | Jun 01 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @bob_sutor: Ed Brill: "#OpenOffice moving to #Apache, good news for the desktop productivity market" http://bit.ly/mU1vGE | Jun 01 16:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Statements on #OpenOffice.org Contribution to #Apache - http://mwne.ws/ij8j23 I can't imagine a better home for it #oracle | Jun 01 16:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @FSecure: RT @jabolins: F-Secure warns " #Facebook Attack Spreading both Windows AND Mac malware" (also GeoIP aware) - http://is.gd/eGWcb3 | Jun 01 16:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME Shell Is Finally Available In The #Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot Repositories [Oneiric Updates] http://is.gd/rn0eht Serenity now? | Jun 01 16:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Microsoft Said to Limit Device Makers’ Chip-Partner Choices http://bloom.bg/mEOZHj shoots #Windows #tablet market in both feet | Jun 01 16:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Gentoo Picking up the pieces http://is.gd/tcqeHC | Jun 01 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An Invitation to #Apache #OpenOffice - http://bit.ly/lK0ueQ Rob Weir's thoughts on the move | Jun 01 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Webian Shell: A full screen web browser built on Chromeless http://is.gd/qlYxmK from #mozilla and not #chrome team | Jun 01 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] DE: Open source in coalition agreement Badem-Wuerttemberg http://is.gd/bV7aF3 #germany #freesoftware | Jun 01 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ZDNet: Motorola website redesign reveals Dick Tracy-inspired watchphone, Xoom 2 http://zd.net/lHeGm6 #motorola #xoom | Jun 01 16:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Picking up the pieces : Yet another open source blog ;-) .::. Size~: 63.46 KB | Jun 01 16:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Opening up data on the European parliament - http://bit.ly/lhi974 great stuff - amazing it's only being done now #opendata #eu | Jun 01 16:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #System76 quietly updates Starling #Linux #netbook with Atom N570 chip http://is.gd/yfid0m #desktop | Jun 01 16:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #Webian Shell: A full screen web browser built on Chromeless http://is.gd/qlYxmK from #mozilla and not #chrome team | Jun 01 16:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: An Invitation to #Apache #OpenOffice - http://bit.ly/lK0ueQ Rob Weir's thoughts on the move | Jun 01 16:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #Gentoo Picking up the pieces http://is.gd/tcqeHC | Jun 01 16:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Note to the world: Contrary to Google's indication, the !FSF office does *not* contain a free and open swimming pool. http://ur1.ca/4bnre | Jun 01 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Russian Pres Questions #G8 Support for Outdated #Copyright Laws http://ping.fm/FKfuo | Jun 01 16:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] U.N. special rapporteur calls upon States to protect anonymous speakers online https://eff.org/r.68a #privacy #netfreedom #fxinternet | Jun 01 16:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Opening up data on the European Parliament http://is.gd/LDN128 #eu #opendata #ep | Jun 01 16:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The mystery of Windows 8's new 'Protogon' file system (ZD): http://zd.net/lBE8Mp | Jun 01 16:49 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75946958396719104 | Jun 01 16:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Let's keep those issues separate because they are. I'm against swpats, but I do prefer FRAND over exclusionary use. | Jun 01 16:51 |
| schestowitz | zoobab_: https://twitter.com/dsapandora/status/75947250592911360 | Jun 01 16:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @dsapandora: @schestowitz :p lol sorry if i was rude, i was talking about the chart n.~ | Jun 01 16:52 |
| schestowitz | oobab_: https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/75947121181868032 | Jun 01 16:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz The FFII doesn't have any political influence anymore; it doesn't have any notable media presence; it's virtually non-existent. | Jun 01 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] In fact, there is no pool at all here. Not even in my office. To the chagrin of the two !FSF visitors who just showed up looking for one. | Jun 01 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Not through, but nice to see *something* from the IPS! - http://ur1.ca/4bnss #sgpolitics | Jun 01 16:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Jun 01 16:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Not thorough, but nice to see *something* from the IPS! - http://ur1.ca/4bnss #sgpolitics | Jun 01 17:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Document foundation: Statement about #Oracle’s move to donate OpenOffice.org assets to the #Apache Foundation - http://bit.ly/jRHvSF | Jun 01 17:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] It's Reputation, Not Privacy, That Really Matters to People - http://bit.ly/jluuNO really important distinction (v @manhack @PrivacyMemes) | Jun 01 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @SCMagazine: Power of many: Government and private sector alliance http://dlvr.it/Tkqg5 | Jun 01 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @EFF: U.N. special rapporteur calls upon States to protect anonymous speakers online https://eff.org/r.68a #privacy #netfreedom | Jun 01 17:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: It's Reputation, Not Privacy, That Really Matters to People - Alexis Madrigal - Technology - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 98.06 KB | Jun 01 17:04 |
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| schestowitz | > I think there are possibilities of IBM improprieties here with the | Jun 01 17:05 |
| schestowitz | > Apache Foundation and Oracle, just my instinct: | Jun 01 17:05 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/statements-on-openofficeorg-contribution-to-apache-nasdaq-orcl-1521400.htm | Jun 01 17:05 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 17:05 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.edbrill.com/ebrill/edbrill.nsf/dx/openoffice-moving-to-apache-good-news-for-the-desktop-productivity-market | Jun 01 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ed Brill - OpenOffice moving to Apache, good news for the desktop productivity market .::. Size~: 19.52 KB | Jun 01 17:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 17:05 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.sutor.com/c/2011/06/some-remarks-on-openoffice-going-to-apache/ | Jun 01 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Some remarks on OpenOffice going to Apache | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 50.75 KB | Jun 01 17:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 17:05 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/06/apache-openoffice.html | Jun 01 17:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] #noemail: Are technology's early adopters abandoning their email? | http://red.ht/iUT5JV #facebook #twitter | Jun 01 17:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 13% of All U.S. Internet Users Are On #Twitter, Pew Research Says - http://rww.to/ifF33m not so niche now... | Jun 01 17:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @rbanffy "Microsoft strikes deal to acquire Nokia’s phone business for $19B, insider claims" http://ig.com/66z | Jun 01 17:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copyright, fair use and education in the Chronicle of Higher Education - http://bit.ly/mOIieb (c) the *antithesis* of promoting knowledge | Jun 01 17:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Gwenell Doc: A Small and Fast ODF Text Editor http://is.gd/gt3Xpm #odf #gwenell #ooo #libreoffice | Jun 01 17:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @rbanffy "Microsoft strikes deal to acquire Nokia’s phone business for $19B, insider claims" http://ig.com/66z | Jun 01 17:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Simple Java API for ODF v0.6 released today, with new support for charts: http://bit.ly/hruQE0 #ODF #JAVA #api | Jun 01 17:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] #gnuradio packages on #debian seem to be in a really desperate state. | Jun 01 17:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #IBM Takes #ODF to Another Level http://is.gd/dt4gdO big company will take after it? http://is.gd/HGORdb | Jun 01 17:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] So Openoffice.org goes to the Apache Foundation. http://is.gd/JXLEYY Not exactly the outcome I have worked for, but close enough. | Jun 01 17:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] So Openoffice.org goes to the Apache Foundation. http://is.gd/JXLEYY Not exactly the outcome I have worked for, but close enough. | Jun 01 17:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/75961361057849344 | Jun 01 17:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jwildeboer: @schestowitz http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2011/06/oracle-gives-openoffice-to-apa.html | Jun 01 17:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Oracle gives OpenOffice to Apache - What a Terrible move. - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner .::. Size~: 116.68 KB | Jun 01 17:32 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/06/01/ibm-takes-odf-to-another-level/ | Jun 01 17:33 |
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| Will__ | More to the story about Microsoft placing limits on tablet makers: | Jun 01 17:34 |
| Will__ | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-01/microsoft-is-said-to-limit-computer-manufacturers-in-chip-partner-choices.html | Jun 01 17:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft To Limit Device Makers’ Chip Choices - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 73.3 KB | Jun 01 17:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer @schestowitz http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2011/06/oracle-gives-openoffice-to-apa.html | Jun 01 17:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] No debate da #ESOP sob normas abertas e software livre. Na audiência está pelo menos uma ave rara da Microsoft... | Jun 01 17:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] LIMUX - Linux în Administrația publică din #Munchen: cum au procedat nemții http://is.gd/g70d5u #limux #linux #opengovt #software #egovt | Jun 01 17:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I wrote a new article for O'Reilly Radar - The long road toward the Community Leadership Summit - http://is.gd/VmioWG #community #cls11 | Jun 01 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] OSCON folks should take a look at 'The long road toward the Community Leadership Summit' - http://is.gd/VmioWG #oscon #cls11 | Jun 01 17:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @chrisblizzard: More value from #HTML5 and #Firefox 6: accessible elements. (by @MarcoZehe) http://bit.ly/lQsVUU | Jun 01 17:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Oracle proposes donating OpenOffice.org to Apache Software Foundation http://lwn.net/Articles/445620/rss | Jun 01 17:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] @evan *burp* | Jun 01 17:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Six Months Of Rocking Ubuntu Events - http://is.gd/Cvr7UU #ubuntu #locoteams | Jun 01 17:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Just signed 49 welcome letters to new !FSF members. Glad to have you! | Jun 01 17:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] System76 quietly updates Starling Linux netbook with Atom N570 chip http://is.gd/yfid0m #gnu #linux #hardware #netbook #laptop #windows | Jun 01 17:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Intel: Atom's multiple OS feature an edge over ARM http://is.gd/RatYIv #intel #arm #hardware #atom | Jun 01 17:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] More #Microsoft Bribery (‘Incentives’) to Keep !Linux at Bay http://is.gd/QcM30k #android | Jun 01 17:59 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/warthurton/status/75966617539985408 | Jun 01 18:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @warthurton: @schestowitz That is not true. RIM does it, and Palm did, Microsoft 6.5 did for some devices. You could always check incredimail.com | Jun 01 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Yes, @popey corrected me on it | Jun 01 18:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ASUS O!Play Gallery, divertisment HD fără limite în sufragerie http://is.gd/64qAlm #asus #multimedia #playogg | Jun 01 18:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Many Cars Tone Deaf To Women's Voices (AOL): http://aol.it/l1YmA7 | Jun 01 18:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 24,000 Sarah Palin emails coming soon, but two years too late http://is.gd/I8lQGN | Jun 01 18:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] More Microsoft Bribery (‘Incentives’) to Keep Linux at Bay http://is.gd/QcM30k #microsoft #software #windows #corruption | Jun 01 18:04 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ch_s/status/75950472271364096 | Jun 01 18:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ch_s: @andyc : I think it's urgent we all work together on #ODF. It cannot be only one or two players. We need more. | Jun 01 18:06 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/chuckhollis/status/73072212042719232 | Jun 01 18:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @chuckhollis: RT @MezMerrett: If you prefer TWITTER over FB then please retweet, i'm trying to show @Jessmayporter how far one tweet can actually go < yep | Jun 01 18:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @rsandu More Microsoft Bribery (‘Incentives’) to Keep Linux at Bay http://is.gd/QcM30k #microsoft #software #windows #corruption | Jun 01 18:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @agentsmith: RT @rsandu More Microsoft Bribery (‘Incentives’) to Keep Linux at Bay http://is.gd/QcM30k #microsoft #software #corruption | Jun 01 18:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Great! A lot of new leaves is sprouting on my olive tree. Rejoice! :-) | Jun 01 18:08 | |
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| schestowitz | http://goo.gl/jmfF9 | Jun 01 18:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @ruiseabra: No debate da #ESOP sob normas abertas e software livre. Na audiência está pelo menos uma ave rara da Microsoft... | Jun 01 18:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: The Document foundation: Statement about #Oracle’s move to donate OOo assets to the #Apache Foundation - http://bit.ly/jRHvSF | Jun 01 18:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Watching with concern as IBM and Oracle between them try to shut down LibreOffice with help from Apache. | Jun 01 18:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Yes, I will most probably continue with !NaNoWriMo every year. The support & structural framework in which to write is invaluable | Jun 01 18:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google open-sources WebRTC. Interesting... | Jun 01 18:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: 24,000 Sarah Palin emails coming soon, but two years too late http://is.gd/I8lQGN | Jun 01 18:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Vizită regală la Medgidia http://is.gd/Eq95Yg #romania #monarchy #medgidia | Jun 01 18:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The US government does exactly what !wikileaks has been doing, but it's "OK" cause 'they' are doing it and controlling releases (censoring) | Jun 01 18:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff Help Internet activists protect their #privacy and anonymity. Join @EFF & @Torproject in the #Torchallenge! https://eff.org/r.58x | Jun 01 18:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Nokia Stuck in Limbo Waiting for Windows 7 Phones http://is.gd/BTn3VJ #nokia #microsoft #mobile #windows #wp7 | Jun 01 18:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @wikileaks: 24,000 Sarah Palin emails coming soon, but two years too late http://is.gd/I8lQGN | Jun 01 18:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I'll be one of your writing buddies :) | Jun 01 18:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz The US government does exactly what !wikileaks has been doing, but it's "OK" cause 'they' are doing it and controlling r ... | Jun 01 18:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Trademark Squatters 0001 – OutbackZack | Wayne Borean - In which the lawyer makes threats: http://bit.ly/kHQOhk #trademark #legal #lawyer | Jun 01 18:19 | |
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| schestowitz | So the rumour was not all false? | Jun 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | > http://ashtonkusher.com/2011/06/microsoft-strikes-deal-to-acquire-nokia%E2%80%99s-phone-business-for-19b-insider-claims/ | Jun 01 18:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft strikes deal to acquire Nokia’s phone business for $19B, insider claims | Ashton Kusher .::. Size~: 23.06 KB | Jun 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | > Is this Microsoft biggest mistake? | Jun 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | > I predict stock will go down if this will be true. Nightmare for | Jun 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft investors. | Jun 01 18:23 |
| GoForbes28 | One can hope | Jun 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | debt for the Vole | Jun 01 18:23 |
| schestowitz | maybe that's why elop is quitting | Jun 01 18:23 |
| GoForbes28 | The problem is, as you have put it before, is that the remnants left behind by Microsoft will still be harmful to the industry in general | Jun 01 18:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Reasons for growing my hair long again: "Black Lightning" by #TheCrown. http://ur1.ca/4bo6l !deathmetal #heavymetal | Jun 01 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Just so you know, my advice to writers is to outline first. For !NaNoWriMo you can do everything short of writing b4 Nov. 1st ... | Jun 01 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Netflix CEO: ‘We’re Finally Beating BitTorrent’ - http://bit.ly/mdJFoA great: so we can forget about #ACTA, right? | Jun 01 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @Suscov: RT @scribu: Front-end Editor: Version 2.1 http://goo.gl/fb/rMkFr #frontendeditor | Jun 01 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft strikes deal to acquire Nokia’s phone business for $19B, insider claims http://is.gd/JjkGR2 #nokia #elop #mole | Jun 01 18:24 | |
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| schestowitz | GoForbes28: to be fair, someone from Finland taught me this | Jun 01 18:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Elop entryism: Just going over to sell Nokia to his former employer, to die along with the patent troll named Microsoft? | Jun 01 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sigil, Open Source and Cross Platform WYSIWYG E-Book Editor - http://bit.ly/l3nH4H GPLv3, multiplatform #ebooks #opensource | Jun 01 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: Four Simple Ways to Install Enterprise Apps http://bit.ly/kba5A4 #linux #gnu #software | Jun 01 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] They want patents, to extorts Apple, Google. Microsoft's dream is a world where it doesn't need to sell OSes, just tax existing ones #swpats | Jun 01 18:26 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Any statistics around BitTorrent are immediately meaningless, a) because they don't taken into account secure connection/anonymity measures, and b) because they won't change behaviour with regards to MAFIAA | Jun 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | I used to celebrate the departure of Microsoft execs not yet thinking where they would go next | Jun 01 18:26 |
| GoForbes28 | yep, you can't change psychopaths | Jun 01 18:27 |
| GoForbes28 | Question, how exactly is IBM taking "ODF" to the next level? | Jun 01 18:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk The most important part of "thinking of something" is to *not* hold out for the greatest idea ever contemplated | Jun 01 18:28 | |
| GoForbes28 | Shouldn't it be OpenOffice.org? | Jun 01 18:28 |
| GoForbes28 | And secondly, does this mean that TDF and the OOo community will merge? | Jun 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | ODF is key to exiting office | Jun 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | IBM is strongly behind the ODF TC | Jun 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | 1.2 for example | Jun 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | in OASIS | Jun 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | They are necessary | Jun 01 18:29 |
| GoForbes28 | right, I understand that | Jun 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: maybe they will merge | Jun 01 18:29 |
| GoForbes28 | I meant in relation to the article | Jun 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | let me know if you see good articles on this | Jun 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | I collect them ATM | Jun 01 18:29 |
| GoForbes28 | It doesn't really have to do with ODF specifically | Jun 01 18:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft is already losing the OS wars and it knows it (many execs are leaving). It's now hell bent on extorting #HTC #Samsung ( &succeeds) | Jun 01 18:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Contact your politicians, ask them to kill software patents. All it does is provide welfare to dying monopolists and trolls. #swpats | Jun 01 18:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Start a list of everything that pops into your head, half baked/unformed ideas, no matter if silly. A line or a few words each. | Jun 01 18:29 | |
| GoForbes28 | ODF<>OpenOffice.org | Jun 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | OOo is a major ODF carrir | Jun 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | *rier | Jun 01 18:29 |
| GoForbes28 | definitely, but it shouldn't be the "standard" ODF office suite | Jun 01 18:30 |
| GoForbes28 | Because then you get generalizations | Jun 01 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75100464 | Jun 01 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Laurel L. Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 17:14:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz the censoring makes it less effective than !wikileaks, but worse, they are releasing emails ON PAPER #environmental #FAIL | Jun 01 18:30 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75100653 | Jun 01 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Laurel L. Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 17:17:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz "24,000 Sarah Palin emails - DIGITAL INFORMATION released ON PAPER - 5 boxes weighing 55 pounds ea - CRAZY http://ur1.ca/4bo6o | Jun 01 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Sarah Palin emails: Alaska to release 24,000 pages of Palin's emails from her time as governor. .::. Size~: 36.76 KB | Jun 01 18:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk when you have a couple of pages worth, mix & match the bits; my Frankenstein method for ideas of what to !write for !nanowrimo | Jun 01 18:31 | |
| GoForbes28 | Do we need any more evidence that she has problems that negate from functioning effectively in any sort of significant government or virtually any other organizational position, let alone as the US president? | Jun 01 18:31 |
| GoForbes28 | You can lift any dirt on her and it won't matter because the damage is done; she is worshipped by a majority of ignorant out there | Jun 01 18:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@laurelrusswurm Releasing w/o making them accessible is as good as those Caldera boxes, vanished along with evidence of Microsoft's crimes | Jun 01 18:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm "...Palin emails - DIGITAL INFORMATION released ON PAPER - 5 boxes weighing 55 pounds ea - CRAZY http://ur1.ca/4bo6o | Jun 01 18:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sarah Palin emails: Alaska to release 24,000 pages of Palin's emails from her time as governor. .::. Size~: 36.76 KB | Jun 01 18:33 |
| GoForbes28 | much like how ever new version of Windows and OS X brings oohs and ahs over eye-candy | Jun 01 18:33 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75101435 | Jun 01 18:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a dent? | Jun 01 18:33 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75101452 | Jun 01 18:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Timothy Redaelli (drizztbsd)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Jun-11 17:28:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I want to kill all the patents | Jun 01 18:33 |
| GoForbes28 | nothing there... | Jun 01 18:33 |
| schestowitz | We have to start somewhere doable. | Jun 01 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Software patents are rather recent | Jun 01 18:33 |
| schestowitz | So easier to kill them | Jun 01 18:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Since the 80s is recent? | Jun 01 18:34 |
| GoForbes28 | Well I guess | Jun 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz | [18:32] <GoForbes28> You can lift any dirt on her and it won't matter because the damage is done; she is worshipped by a majority of ignorant out there | Jun 01 18:34 |
| koolhead17 | hello all | Jun 01 18:34 |
| GoForbes28 | The patent system is much older by comparison | Jun 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's like SHeen | Jun 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Stupidity is a merit | Jun 01 18:34 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz GoForbes28 jono | Jun 01 18:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @glynmoody Netflix CEO: ‘We’re Finally Beating BitTorrent’ - http://bit.ly/mdJFoA great: so we can forget about #ACTA, right? | Jun 01 18:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Netflix CEO: ‘We’re Finally Beating BitTorrent’Online Video News .::. Size~: 64.77 KB | Jun 01 18:34 |
| GoForbes28 | It's like people who like obscure "art movies" like 2001 | Jun 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz | "Y'all, this Biden guys is all posh and stuff... now, Bush... he ain't smart... he ... he like me" | Jun 01 18:35 |
| GoForbes28 | they are fooled into thinking they are watching something brilliant, when in fact they are watching something that hasn't been written | Jun 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | "|He has faith" :-) | Jun 01 18:35 |
| GoForbes28 | And a lot of people think this is brilliant Roy | Jun 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Movies are the same too | Jun 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Patent wise | Jun 01 18:36 |
| schestowitz | They all are based on templates | Jun 01 18:36 |
| GoForbes28 | You can't patent a movie | Jun 01 18:36 |
| schestowitz | You could classify all films into about 20 groups | Jun 01 18:36 |
| GoForbes28 | Though it would be hilarious to see if they tried | Jun 01 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Based on their plot | Jun 01 18:36 |
| GoForbes28 | Which isn't bad | Jun 01 18:36 |
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| GoForbes28 | The problem is the corporatism that goes along for the ride | Jun 01 18:36 |
| schestowitz | !google hollywood edison ars technica | Jun 01 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Take Heed, Tech Giants: Edison's Failed Plot To Hijack Hollywood ... | http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/09/thomas-edisons-plot-to-hijack-the-movie-industry/ | Jun 01 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Thomas Edison's plot to hijack the movie industry - Ars Technica | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/09/thomas-edisons-plot-to-destroy-the-movies.ars/2 | Jun 01 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Hollywood, the World's Greatest Pirates | http://www.punkerslut.com/articles/hollywood_the_worlds_greatest_pirates.html | Jun 01 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Truth About Thomas Edison and New Species of Patent Trolls ... | http://techrights.org/2010/09/03/patent-office-icon-shamed/ | Jun 01 18:36 |
| schestowitz | techrights at 4 :-) | Jun 01 18:37 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: hi mate | Jun 01 18:37 |
| GoForbes28 | There are so many movies that eventually we would generate common plots and storylines and characters | Jun 01 18:37 |
| _Goblin | :) hi there! | Jun 01 18:37 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: BTW, _Goblin has been here for years | Jun 01 18:37 |
| GoForbes28 | I know that | Jun 01 18:37 |
| schestowitz | That's why he's so senior. You sometimes seem to be offended because you're not trusted as much as others who were here for 3 years | Jun 01 18:38 |
| GoForbes28 | I've read this back in the Boycott Novell days | Jun 01 18:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cetaceul din birou http://is.gd/jnx7NV #gnu #linux #microsoft #software #oracle #libreoffice #openoffice #lo #ooo | Jun 01 18:38 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: did you see the latest staretgy from the trolls? | Jun 01 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | THe same one they have used repeatedly in COLA | Jun 01 18:38 |
| _Goblin | Schestowitz, I may need ops later on if thats ok.....not yet though....I'm looking for something.... | Jun 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Sure | Jun 01 18:38 |
| GoForbes28 | though with sceptism because I didn't fully understand the subjects being discussed | Jun 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | The trolls did the same vs Homer | Jun 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Trying to divide people | Jun 01 18:38 |
| _Goblin | and re: strategy.....yes, very interesting..... | Jun 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Naming tensions that don't exist | Jun 01 18:38 |
| schestowitz | It's funny how hard they try to crash forums | Jun 01 18:38 |
| GoForbes28 | I was a simpleton who thought "What's really wrong with Mono?'". Then I read and learned, and said "Ah, that makes sense". | Jun 01 18:38 |
| _Goblin | you have to admire the determination | Jun 01 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Gary used fake names/sockpuppets to magnify this | Jun 01 18:39 |
| _Goblin | 16 years for one of them apparently | Jun 01 18:39 |
| GoForbes28 | This isn't really knew though | Jun 01 18:39 |
| schestowitz | It's actually quite a dangerous strategy, the govt. sometimes uses similar type of techniques to break unions | Jun 01 18:39 |
| GoForbes28 | Creating divisions has been a disruption strategy for years | Jun 01 18:39 |
| GoForbes28 | Even in a public school friend group it happens | Jun 01 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Or saying things like "linonut sucks up to roy" | Jun 01 18:39 |
| schestowitz | "Linonut is gay" etc. | Jun 01 18:40 |
| _Goblin | well..... | Jun 01 18:40 |
| schestowitz | They create rifts, or so they hope | Jun 01 18:40 |
| _Goblin | its been very productive.... | Jun 01 18:40 |
| GoForbes28 | Bullies on the school yard disrupt groups and raise FUD, same basic thing here to me. | Jun 01 18:40 |
| schestowitz | If you wrote a book on trolls, it would have a whole section, I bet... | Jun 01 18:40 |
| GoForbes28 | It's amazing that the corporate world can be viewed in the same light as a public school yard | Jun 01 18:41 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: they turned COLA into a forum for Linux activities... like some kind of water cooler. They help promote what they try to derail. | Jun 01 18:41 |
| GoForbes28 | but hey, the Gov't doesn't set high standards, so why should we be surprised? Corporate people aren't super-human | Jun 01 18:41 |
| schestowitz | A bit like when a story hits Digg's front page and all the comments go into Digg, not the cited post | Jun 01 18:41 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: those trolls are not schoolya<rd bullies though | Jun 01 18:42 |
| GoForbes28 | If regulation was actually enforced, there would be much less behaviour like this | Jun 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | They are probably those who had no friends at schools | Jun 01 18:42 |
| _Goblin | but then I think you sometimes make life easy for them....why post IRC logs? | Jun 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Thus they became anonymous socipaths | Jun 01 18:42 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Bullies often have no friends either | Jun 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Not wanting to show their faces and not minding bullying behind keyboards and oneypots | Jun 01 18:42 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Just a collection of manipulated allies | Jun 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Jun 01 18:43 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: A bully can be put in perspective when confronted | Jun 01 18:43 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: If it makes them obsessed, they have 2 options.. 3 even | Jun 01 18:43 |
| schestowitz | 1) ignore | Jun 01 18:43 |
| schestowitz | 2) mention | Jun 01 18:43 |
| schestowitz | 3) lie about the contents | Jun 01 18:43 |
| GoForbes28 | 4) revenge? | Jun 01 18:43 |
| schestowitz | They used to do 2 | Jun 01 18:43 |
| schestowitz | They got angry cause it had the opposite effect of (1) | Jun 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | Not they just do (3) | Jun 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | Rebuttals | Jun 01 18:44 |
| GoForbes28 | I say a combination of 1 and 3 | Jun 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | 1) address content | Jun 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | 2) ad hominem | Jun 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | 3) lie | Jun 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | Same in articles | Jun 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | And they lost (2) in COLA | Jun 01 18:44 |
| GoForbes28 | what is COLA? | Jun 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | So they started using the group to spread libel, even outside | Jun 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | comp.os.linux.advocacy | Jun 01 18:45 |
| GoForbes28 | ah | Jun 01 18:45 |
| GoForbes28 | a fake usergroup? | Jun 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | no | Jun 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | Not fake | Jun 01 18:45 |
| GoForbes28 | an infiltrated usergroup? | Jun 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | But fake posters in there tryint to ruin it | Jun 01 18:45 |
| GoForbes28 | ala Slashdot? | Jun 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | yes | Jun 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | Slashdot too, to that extent? | Jun 01 18:45 |
| GoForbes28 | understood | Jun 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | Slashdot is filled with PR agents | Jun 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | It's dead to me... | Jun 01 18:45 |
| GoForbes28 | A shame | Jun 01 18:45 |
| GoForbes28 | BTW, I think you'lll like this | Jun 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Malda didn't watch carefully enough | Jun 01 18:46 |
| GoForbes28 | !google cbc conservative wheat board | Jun 01 18:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Wheat Board monopoly to end in 2012: minister - Manitoba - CBC News | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2011/05/18/mb-wheat-board-demise.html | Jun 01 18:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Wheat Board monopoly to end in 2012: minister - Saskatchewan - CBC ... | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/story/2011/05/18/mb-wheat-board-demise.html | Jun 01 18:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Wheat Board monopoly to end in 2012: minister - Politics - CBC News | http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/05/18/mb-wheat-board-demise.html | Jun 01 18:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Expect Wheat Board changes: vote winners - Business - CBC News | http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2011/05/03/mb-wheat-board-conservativve-election.html | Jun 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | His real community left | Jun 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | After the PR agents took over | Jun 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | And now it's a shadow of its former self without any Linux news, or hardly any | Jun 01 18:46 |
| GoForbes28 | Essentially, the Harper Gov't want to neuter the wheat board because of the monopoly it has on farm output | Jun 01 18:47 |
| schestowitz | > Re: KDE QT in danger, more news | Jun 01 18:47 |
| schestowitz | > http://fudzilla.com/mobiles/item/22939-key-open-source-project-about-to-fail | Jun 01 18:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 01 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 01 18:47 |
| schestowitz | > http://fudzilla.com/home/item/22938-big-content-sued-for-not-paying-musicians | Jun 01 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 01 18:47 |
| GoForbes28 | Now this is a totally different type of monopoly from say, Microsoft struggles with | Jun 01 18:47 |
| GoForbes28 | but it leads to me ask. | Jun 01 18:47 |
| GoForbes28 | If they are so against monopolies, does this mean we will see action taken against Bell too? Or other telecom giants? | Jun 01 18:48 |
| GoForbes28 | Oh I see | Jun 01 18:48 |
| GoForbes28 | Monopolies are OK, if they are corporate and come with lots of money. | Jun 01 18:48 |
| GoForbes28 | Harper may have trained to be an economist, but he is nothing more than a narcissist psychopath. | Jun 01 18:49 |
| GoForbes28 | Oh, and more hilarity | Jun 01 18:49 |
| GoForbes28 | !google polls Canadian conservative mandate | Jun 01 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Canadian right wing expected to lose | The Daily Texan | http://www.dailytexanonline.com/world-and-nation/2011/05/03/canadian-right-wing-expected-lose | Jun 01 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Five Years On, Canada's Leader Seeks a Mandate - WSJ.com | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703280904576246603774426800.html | Jun 01 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Canadians Vote Monday as Harper Asks for Majority | The Daily ... | http://outlookafghanistan.net/news.php%3Fpost_id%3D382 | Jun 01 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Canadians vote Monday as Harper asks for majority - Associated Press | http://hosted2.ap.org/COGRA/APWorldNews/Article_2011-05-02-CN-Canada-Election/id-bd350da49c4646e3baecea928f97bee1 | Jun 01 18:49 |
| GoForbes28 | oops | Jun 01 18:49 |
| GoForbes28 | !google cbc poll Canadian conservative mandate | Jun 01 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Conservative lead dries up, poll suggests - Canada - CBC News | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2010/08/04/ekos-poll.html | Jun 01 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Conservatives and Liberals remain tied: poll - Canada - CBC News | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2010/02/17/ekos-poll.html | Jun 01 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Conservatives slipping, Liberals gaining: EKOS poll - Canada - CBC ... | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2009/04/16/ekos-poll-political-preference.html | Jun 01 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Canada | Save the News | http://www.savethenews.org/public-media/international-models/canada | Jun 01 18:50 |
| GoForbes28 | darn | Jun 01 18:50 |
| GoForbes28 | all old | Jun 01 18:50 |
| GoForbes28 | well, what I'm TRYING to link to is a recent poll showing that there is no majority of Canadian that agree with Conservative mandates, and essentially that this fact is meaningless because the Cons have a majority | Jun 01 18:50 |
| GoForbes28 | Well DUH | Jun 01 18:51 |
| GoForbes28 | Should have thought about that before the election | Jun 01 18:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Key open source project about to fail http://is.gd/M5FXzN #elop #mole #kde #qt #microsoft #entryism #CompetitionByDestruction #nokia | Jun 01 18:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 01 18:51 |
| GoForbes28 | What happened was one part stupid voting system, one part media sensation, and one part ignorant voters | Jun 01 18:51 |
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| GoForbes28 | I'm still waiting on Wayne for the IPv6 tutorial | Jun 01 18:52 |
| GoForbes28 | :S | Jun 01 18:52 |
| ender_33 | http://linuxfr.org/nodes/85904/comments/1230981 | Jun 01 18:52 |
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| GoForbes28 | I agree with a lot of what Linus says | Jun 01 18:53 |
| ender_33 | same here | Jun 01 18:53 |
| ender_33 | I think he nailed that one | Jun 01 18:53 |
| GoForbes28 | I also enjoyed his quasi autobiography | Jun 01 18:53 |
| ender_33 | "So the first and the very negative answer is that I absolutely despise the people who try to push the GPL as being about "ethics". | Jun 01 18:53 |
| ender_33 | I think that's absolute bullshit. Why? Because ethics are to me something private. Whenever you use it as an argument for why somebody_else should do something, you're no longer being ethical, you're just being a sanctimonious dick-heah." | Jun 01 18:53 |
| ender_33 | the whole forced sharing/volunteering thing | Jun 01 18:53 |
| GoForbes28 | I disagree with him somewhat there | Jun 01 18:54 |
| ender_33 | I think someone should be able to use crappy proprietary shit if they want to | Jun 01 18:54 |
| GoForbes28 | oh certainly | Jun 01 18:54 |
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| GoForbes28 | but I don't think that's what the FSF for example is doing | Jun 01 18:55 |
| GoForbes28 | they are trying to present their argument | Jun 01 18:55 |
| GoForbes28 | I agree there are some FSF supporters who just spout the talk in completely inappropriate circumstances, thus coming out like the sanctimonious dick-head | Jun 01 18:56 |
| GoForbes28 | that Tovalds is describing | Jun 01 18:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Take a look at the world’s oldest mathematical object (IO9): http://on.io9.com/ltfkOy | Jun 01 18:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me in a few mins for my live Ubuntu Q+A videocast at http://is.gd/vAp17e - bring your questions! #ubuntu | Jun 01 18:56 | |
| ender_33 | yes | Jun 01 18:56 |
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| ender_33 | thats what I was having trouble with regarding fsf | Jun 01 18:56 |
| GoForbes28 | on the other, that doesn't mean the argument of ethics and software liscensing has no merit like he is suggesting | Jun 01 18:56 |
| ender_33 | a lot of the fsf zealots are being unrealistic | Jun 01 18:56 |
| GoForbes28 | definitely | Jun 01 18:57 |
| ender_33 | nothing wrong with promotion either | Jun 01 18:57 |
| GoForbes28 | on the other hand, Tovalds does come off like an asshole too | Jun 01 18:57 |
| GoForbes28 | "Trying to push any particular license as "the ethical choice" just makes me mad. Really." | Jun 01 18:57 |
| ender_33 | I just dont want things turning into 'freedom the way we say' | Jun 01 18:57 |
| GoForbes28 | That isn't a counter-arguement, that's just him going "niya niya I don't care!" | Jun 01 18:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Underground Website Where You Can Buy Any Drug Imaginable (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/jfcRqj | Jun 01 18:58 | |
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| GoForbes28 | and frankly, his attitude of saying it's just for fun is naive at times because it ignores problems like patents | Jun 01 18:58 |
| ender_33 | he ignored patents himself | Jun 01 18:58 |
| GoForbes28 | yes, but that doesn't mean the issue goes away | Jun 01 18:58 |
| GoForbes28 | I can post things on YouTube just for fun, but that doesn't mean I can ignore stupid changes to copyright law | Jun 01 18:59 |
| schestowitz | true | Jun 01 18:59 |
| schestowitz | There's a lot to criticise about him | Jun 01 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Not that it would be productive | Jun 01 18:59 |
| calipz | dunno if this is the right place to be here but - anyone have information on the project that picked up some speed a while back -> piratedns ? there an irc channel on it or website? | Jun 01 18:59 |
| schestowitz | The FSF does not criticise him, either. No point to infighting. | Jun 01 18:59 |
| GoForbes28 | no | Jun 01 19:00 |
| schestowitz | It's over minor points on a relative scale anyway | Jun 01 19:00 |
| GoForbes28 | I think the flack the FSF gets is largely to affiliates rather than the foundation itself | Jun 01 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Not proprietary vs free | Jun 01 19:00 |
| schestowitz | just gplv2 vs golv3... | Jun 01 19:00 |
| GoForbes28 | their website has hundreds of well written essays | Jun 01 19:00 |
| schestowitz | *How* to abolish software patents | Jun 01 19:00 |
| GoForbes28 | their approach seems quite civilised | Jun 01 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Not whether they are good or bad | Jun 01 19:00 |
| schestowitz | It's the wrong fight to have | Jun 01 19:00 |
| GoForbes28 | yes | Jun 01 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Like religious sub-cults | Jun 01 19:01 |
| GoForbes28 | a bit | Jun 01 19:01 |
| GoForbes28 | reading Just for Fun, I get the impression though that Tovalds doesn't really understands RMS' position | Jun 01 19:01 |
| GoForbes28 | and really, he doesn't have to treat RMS without respect as he often does | Jun 01 19:02 |
| GoForbes28 | RMS at least has taken an effort to not demean people, he's a much better public speaker for example | Jun 01 19:02 |
| GoForbes28 | than he used to be | Jun 01 19:03 |
| ender_33 | when hes not eating toe jam | Jun 01 19:03 |
| schestowitz | yes, so they say.. anger management and all. | Jun 01 19:03 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: there go the anti-RMS junk | Jun 01 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Next you'll say its communism | Jun 01 19:03 |
| ender_33 | i dont think communism made him eat stuff off his foot | Jun 01 19:05 |
| GoForbes28 | ender_33: Ender, can you please reveal your personal quirks that have nothing to do with your argument? | Jun 01 19:05 |
| ender_33 | i can link the video - it did happen | Jun 01 19:05 |
| GoForbes28 | *arguments | Jun 01 19:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mageia 1 is here http://www.mageia.org/en/ #mandriva #gnu #linux #fork | Jun 01 19:06 | |
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| GoForbes28 | ender_33: If you pick your neither regions in public, it would be irrelevant to the content of what you saying and the points you are making | Jun 01 19:07 |
| ender_33 | goforbes28 - yet, in public ppl notice | Jun 01 19:07 |
| GoForbes28 | ender_33: Because they have problems focusing | Jun 01 19:07 |
| GoForbes28 | You have facial hair, therefore I will dismiss all you are saying on that alone. | Jun 01 19:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] RT @eff Help Internet activists protect their #privacy and anonymity. Join @EFF & @Torproject in the #Torchallenge! https://eff.org/r.58x | Jun 01 19:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Listening to The Ghost of Tom Joad and cooking dinner. | Jun 01 19:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Help support Internet #privacy and #anonymity with @EFF's Tor Challenge, https://www.eff.org/torchallenge #tor #eff | Jun 01 19:08 | |
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| GoForbes28 | I get distracted by your facial hair, and that is my defence. | Jun 01 19:08 |
| GoForbes28 | I notice your facial hair in public. | Jun 01 19:08 |
| GoForbes28 | I have a weird thing next to my eye. | Jun 01 19:08 |
| GoForbes28 | The answer to all of the above is who cares? | Jun 01 19:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110601 #sip_and_click | Jun 01 19:09 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Roy is big and strong, who cares? | Jun 01 19:09 |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin's avatar doesn't reveal his eyes, who cares? | Jun 01 19:10 |
| GoForbes28 | and so on. | Jun 01 19:10 |
| GoForbes28 | ThistleWeb has a Scottish accent, who cares? | Jun 01 19:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #Mageia 1 is here http://www.mageia.org/en/ #mandriva #gnu #linux #fork | Jun 01 19:11 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Aren't there enough Mandriva forks? | Jun 01 19:12 |
| GoForbes28 | We have PCLinuxOS, which itself was forked into Unity (which has many derivatives), and Mandriva itself was a fork of Red Hat. | Jun 01 19:12 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | Jun 01 19:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @mvalente: Olha: mudaram os sites do Ministerio da Justiça de Linux+Zope para "coisas" Microsoft. //Contribuinte paga! | Jun 01 19:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: #Microsoft strikes deal to acquire Nokia’s phone business for $19B, insider claims http://is.gd/JjkGR2 #nokia #elop #mole | Jun 01 19:13 | |
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| schestowitz | [19:05] <ender_33> i can link the video - it did happen | Jun 01 19:13 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather talk about his ideas | Jun 01 19:13 |
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| schestowitz | Not his beard and stuff | Jun 01 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Hypical Microsoft thing to do... | Jun 01 19:13 |
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| GoForbes28 | ender_33: You can start a career as a paparazzi, have fun | Jun 01 19:14 |
| schestowitz | [19:08] <GoForbes28> You have facial hair, therefore I will dismiss all you are saying on that alone. | Jun 01 19:14 |
| schestowitz | This is done in /. | Jun 01 19:14 |
| schestowitz | And Microsoft booser play this line too | Jun 01 19:14 |
| GoForbes28 | slashdot? | Jun 01 19:14 |
| GoForbes28 | oh yeah | Jun 01 19:14 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah, that was my point | Jun 01 19:14 |
| schestowitz | [19:12] <GoForbes28> Aren't there enough Mandriva forks? | Jun 01 19:15 |
| schestowitz | A new ALTLinux 6.0 too... just came out | Jun 01 19:15 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | Jun 01 19:15 |
| GoForbes28 | How's Netrunner doing? | Jun 01 19:15 |
| schestowitz | going way back to 2008 the /. thing | Jun 01 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Thwy discourage people from clicking | Jun 01 19:15 |
| schestowitz | SOmething like | Jun 01 19:15 |
| schestowitz | "Oh, it's some crazy hippy, don't waste your time reading anything he says"| | Jun 01 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft uses this tactic a lot | Jun 01 19:16 |
| schestowitz | In internal documents I've read from Microsoft leaks they routinely mention RMS | Jun 01 19:16 |
| schestowitz | They want to prevent his ideas from being successful | Jun 01 19:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mint 11 Screenshots http://is.gd/IPomx1 #linuxmint #gnu | Jun 01 19:18 | |
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| _Goblin | off topic here...but.... | Jun 01 19:19 |
| ender_33 | goforbes28 im not suggesting to disregard what he says, im just saying hes weird | Jun 01 19:19 |
| _Goblin | I must praise: | Jun 01 19:19 |
| _Goblin | http://www.radioplayer.co.uk/ | Jun 01 19:19 |
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| _Goblin | fantastic.... | Jun 01 19:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bennkler's The Penguin and the Leviathan - http://bit.ly/khnT3g "How Cooperation Triumphs over Self-Interest" (v @jmcesteves @FelixTreguer) | Jun 01 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Taconite, coke and limestone / fed my children and made my pay" | Jun 01 19:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Penguin and the Leviathan by Yochai Benkler - Book - eBook - Audiobook - Random House .::. Size~: 65.5 KB | Jun 01 19:19 |
| GoForbes28 | ender_33: and I'm saying that it has not relevance in the current conversation. You are weird as well. So what? | Jun 01 19:20 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm weird | Jun 01 19:20 |
| _Goblin | what is weird? | Jun 01 19:20 |
| _Goblin | incomprehensible? | Jun 01 19:20 |
| GoForbes28 | In fact, if we go by the model of an ideal citizen, Roy is the most normal | Jun 01 19:20 |
| _Goblin | unfathomable? | Jun 01 19:20 |
| GoForbes28 | Roy has a PHD, has acheived great academic success | Jun 01 19:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Now the yards just scrap and rubble / He said, 'Them big boys did what Hitler couldn't do'" | Jun 01 19:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] The Apache OpenOffice move, good for open standards, bad for free software? | Jun 01 19:21 | |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: Well it can't be that, because I can comprehend and fathom things considered weird | Jun 01 19:21 |
| _Goblin | so then what is weird? | Jun 01 19:22 |
| _Goblin | a set of lifestyle choices alien to your own? | Jun 01 19:22 |
| _Goblin | a display of behaviour which is unjustifiable? | Jun 01 19:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "When I die I don't want no part of heaven / I would not do heavens work well / I pray the devil comes and takes me" | Jun 01 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "To stand in the fiery furnaces of hell" | Jun 01 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk my brilliant son tried !nanowrimo and of course ignored my advice to outline (bet he does next time ;) | Jun 01 19:23 | |
| _Goblin | I would describe wierd as......... | Jun 01 19:23 |
| _Goblin | er | Jun 01 19:23 |
| _Goblin | ah.....yes... | Jun 01 19:23 |
| _Goblin | the Monolith from 2001. | Jun 01 19:23 |
| _Goblin | now that was weird and fit most of my previous criteria | Jun 01 19:23 |
| GoForbes28 | nah, as 2010 taught us, the monolith isn't that weird | Jun 01 19:24 |
| _Goblin | so what was it....keep in mind I read 3001 | Jun 01 19:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Senators Want To Put People In Jail For Embedding YouTube Videos - http://bit.ly/kKZatP these people just *hate* the Internet | Jun 01 19:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk That can work for short work, the only writer who could get away with it in novels was !Asimov (wonder why he wrote so few novels?) | Jun 01 19:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #PiTiVi 0.14 "No longer kills kittens" http://goo.gl/BhWgz | Jun 01 19:24 | |
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| _Goblin | and certainly in 2001 it was weird. | Jun 01 19:24 |
| GoForbes28 | whereas 2001 wasn't weird, it was just a void of anything useful | Jun 01 19:25 |
| GoForbes28 | The movie was that is | Jun 01 19:25 |
| _Goblin | but then that wasnt the case... | Jun 01 19:25 |
| GoForbes28 | I want to read the book which is said to be much better | Jun 01 19:25 |
| _Goblin | 2x4x6 | Jun 01 19:25 |
| _Goblin | 3001 explains what it was | Jun 01 19:25 |
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| GoForbes28 | damnit, you spoiled the story! | Jun 01 19:25 |
| _Goblin | 2060 (I think) was when they land on europa | Jun 01 19:25 |
| GoForbes28 | shhh | Jun 01 19:25 |
| GoForbes28 | shhh | Jun 01 19:25 |
| GoForbes28 | ! | Jun 01 19:25 |
| GoForbes28 | lalallalalla | Jun 01 19:25 |
| _Goblin | what? 2x4x6? | Jun 01 19:26 |
| GoForbes28 | Yeah, I know that from watching 2010 | Jun 01 19:26 |
| _Goblin | ah of course it goes far deeper than that the message..... | Jun 01 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk And although both Mr. King and Ms. Rice pat themselves on the back and claim they don't need to outline, I beg to differ :D | Jun 01 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Senators Want To Put People In Jail For Embedding YouTube Videos - http://bit.ly/kKZatP these people just *hate* the Internet | Jun 01 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] PunkThis: An Android and ARM PC Inside Your SATA Bay http://bit.ly/kEtmMR | Jun 01 19:26 | |
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| GoForbes28 | I can't remember if they mentioned that in 2001 the movie because it was a void that doesn't inspire long-term memories | Jun 01 19:26 |
| GoForbes28 | that and I fell asleep | Jun 01 19:26 |
| _Goblin | and the thing I liked about 2001 was that it highlighted that human arrogance thinks it can explain and group everything.....the monolith proved that they couldn't | Jun 01 19:27 |
| GoForbes28 | the book might of | Jun 01 19:27 |
| _Goblin | sort of like an ant watching a gameboy.....unable to comprehend. | Jun 01 19:27 |
| GoForbes28 | again, the book might of | Jun 01 19:27 |
| GoForbes28 | the movie was just anything you want it to be, which makes it nothing | Jun 01 19:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Official Twitter Add-on Brings Twitter Search to the Mozilla Firefox Awesome Bar on Desktop and Mobile http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2011/06/ | Jun 01 19:28 | |
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| GoForbes28 | I can make anything out of anything | Jun 01 19:28 |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: not really.... | Jun 01 19:28 |
| GoForbes28 | Certainly didn't require writing skill | Jun 01 19:28 |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: monolith found on moon.....space ship issues....Hal go wrong because of human error. | Jun 01 19:28 |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: really? I would debate that to the death | Jun 01 19:29 |
| GoForbes28 | exactly, you have just summarized the whole movie | Jun 01 19:29 |
| GoForbes28 | that is really all that happens | Jun 01 19:29 |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: yes and you can do that with 1001 other movies. | Jun 01 19:29 |
| GoForbes28 | only there is more going on in those movies | Jun 01 19:29 |
| GoForbes28 | have you watched ConfusedMatthew's 2001 review? | Jun 01 19:30 |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: because there was so much more...it was about exploring the human condition and realization that far from being at the pinacle of understanding everything, we've only scratched the surface. | Jun 01 19:30 |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: no... | Jun 01 19:30 |
| GoForbes28 | www.confusedmatthew.com | Jun 01 19:31 |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: if you want a dull movie.....>Avatar | Jun 01 19:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Felt my gun restin' 'neath my hand / we stood there starin' at each other / as off through the arroyo she ran" | Jun 01 19:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @webmink Watching with concern as IBM and Oracle between them try to shut down LibreOffice with help from Apache. | Jun 01 19:31 | |
| GoForbes28 | A movie can be dull/boring and still be a good movie | Jun 01 19:31 |
| GoForbes28 | Lawrence of Arabia | Jun 01 19:31 |
| _Goblin | Signs | Jun 01 19:32 |
| GoForbes28 | exactly | Jun 01 19:32 |
| _Goblin | dull/boring/bad | Jun 01 19:32 |
| GoForbes28 | Signs was good | Jun 01 19:32 |
| _Goblin | ? | Jun 01 19:32 |
| _Goblin | seriously? | Jun 01 19:32 |
| GoForbes28 | and I wouldn't say it was dull or boring, unless your definition of the term varies from the common application | Jun 01 19:32 |
| _Goblin | what was the point of the aliens? | Jun 01 19:33 |
| _Goblin | there was no point. | Jun 01 19:33 |
| _Goblin | it was not an alien film | Jun 01 19:33 |
| GoForbes28 | they were the antagonist | Jun 01 19:33 |
| _Goblin | it was a film about faith and religion | Jun 01 19:33 |
| GoForbes28 | yes, so? | Jun 01 19:33 |
| _Goblin | dying mother predicts son will kill alien with bat......Father priest restored in faith | Jun 01 19:33 |
| _Goblin | you could have made that movie with a rabid dog instead of aliens | Jun 01 19:33 |
| GoForbes28 | it's about the characters | Jun 01 19:33 |
| _Goblin | ah but thats not how they sold it was it? | Jun 01 19:34 |
| _Goblin | check the trailer..... | Jun 01 19:34 |
| GoForbes28 | I don't care how it was sold | Jun 01 19:34 |
| GoForbes28 | I don't really watch trailers anymore because they are misleading more often than not | Jun 01 19:34 |
| GoForbes28 | The new Star Trek movie for example | Jun 01 19:34 |
| _Goblin | it played on peoples attraction to aliens to dupe them into a covert religious theme | Jun 01 19:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reports: #Microsoft set to acquire #Nokia’s phone business for $19bn - http://tnw.co/izBQsm so handy that share price came tumbling down... | Jun 01 19:34 | |
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| GoForbes28 | No, you are thinking of "Knowing" | Jun 01 19:34 |
| _Goblin | I don't mind a moral film.....I just don't expect to be duped into watching it. | Jun 01 19:35 |
| _Goblin | No I am not.... | Jun 01 19:35 |
| _Goblin | Knowing had the adam and eve take at the end | Jun 01 19:35 |
| _Goblin | I'm talking signs. | Jun 01 19:35 |
| _Goblin | the priest who lost his faith | Jun 01 19:36 |
| GoForbes28 | but it matches completely what you are saying | Jun 01 19:36 |
| _Goblin | restored by a "sign" from his dying wife | Jun 01 19:36 |
| GoForbes28 | what you are accusing Signs of being is what Knowing was as well | Jun 01 19:36 |
| _Goblin | ah. but we were not talking about Knowing.... | Jun 01 19:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @RWW: Oracle Donates OpenOffice to the Apache Software Foundation http://rww.to/iJGvWu | Jun 01 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @uvmchristine: Hellions everywhere, for more hell than you can shake a pitchfork at, join us at http://www.facebook.com/lawyersinhell | Jun 01 19:36 | |
| _Goblin | BUT WE WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. | Jun 01 19:36 |
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| _Goblin | I agree the Knowing was crap. | Jun 01 19:36 |
| GoForbes28 | ALL CAPS DOES NOT A COUNTER-ARGUEMENT MAKE | Jun 01 19:36 |
| _Goblin | would you like me list off all the other religious moral films | Jun 01 19:36 |
| GoForbes28 | lol | Jun 01 19:36 |
| GoForbes28 | nah not really | Jun 01 19:37 |
| GoForbes28 | have you seen the Star Wreck film? | Jun 01 19:37 |
| _Goblin | and the caps were there because you accused me of confusing films then dragged another film into a discussion about signs | Jun 01 19:37 |
| _Goblin | yep | Jun 01 19:37 |
| GoForbes28 | or rather Star Wreck VI? | Jun 01 19:37 |
| _Goblin | bad.# | Jun 01 19:37 |
| GoForbes28 | good | Jun 01 19:37 |
| _Goblin | I see. | Jun 01 19:37 |
| GoForbes28 | I would say a much better effort than Star Trek | Jun 01 19:37 |
| GoForbes28 | For one thing, it was actually written with effort and thought | Jun 01 19:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @leapetra: The Internet: Where men are men, women are men, and children are the FBI. | Jun 01 19:38 | |
| _Goblin | So the entire Startrek universe gets re-written.....all the fans who followed the universe through life....and now we are told history is re-written and it all starts again? | Jun 01 19:38 |
| GoForbes28 | wait wait | Jun 01 19:38 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm talking about Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning | Jun 01 19:38 |
| GoForbes28 | not Star *Trek* XI | Jun 01 19:38 |
| _Goblin | ah | Jun 01 19:38 |
| _Goblin | I thought you were taking the mick out of the new startrek film | Jun 01 19:39 |
| GoForbes28 | the most successful CC feature length film | Jun 01 19:39 |
| _Goblin | in that case no. | Jun 01 19:39 |
| GoForbes28 | (Creative commons) | Jun 01 19:39 |
| _Goblin | Ive never seen it. | Jun 01 19:39 |
| GoForbes28 | you should | Jun 01 19:39 |
| GoForbes28 | it's a much better experience than Star Trek XI | Jun 01 19:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Argentina accuses world's largest grain traders of huge tax evasion - http://bit.ly/laPMWy nice: destroying the environment and this | Jun 01 19:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @uvmchristine: Alex III: In Lawyers in Hell, you & Aristotle & TE Lawrence try helping Lysicles. That's all I'm sayin''. It's hell. | Jun 01 19:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] On my to read list: "Act of Creation & Other Stories" http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/59111 - congrats @JAPak | Jun 01 19:39 | |
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| GoForbes28 | the FX is of lower quality due to rendering computer power, but there is more care in how they are implementede | Jun 01 19:40 |
| GoForbes28 | Unlike Star Trek where the theme seems to be "LOOK AT MY FX AND LENS FLARESS!!!111" | Jun 01 19:40 |
| GoForbes28 | http://www.starwreck.com | Jun 01 19:41 |
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| GoForbes28 | it's in finnish, but it's still enjoyable | Jun 01 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Submit a Talk for #Ohio #LinuxFest 2011 http://is.gd/MoreiY Ten days to SELF 2011 http://is.gd/zI9hXD Linux events show no signs of stopping | Jun 01 19:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @imslp: Interesting how popular Open Goldberg Project is - 13 RTs in a few minutes = hunger for non-copyright music. http://t.co/OUN2sGk | Jun 01 19:41 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Those Finnish are clever people | Jun 01 19:41 |
| GoForbes28 | anywho | Jun 01 19:42 |
| GoForbes28 | I find it odd that it wouldn't be known about here | Jun 01 19:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Brazil approves Belo Monte hydroelectric dam - http://bit.ly/jfYVB9 have they learnt nothing from the #threegorges - http://bit.ly/lGPEcG | Jun 01 19:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] @noyesk Right... I predicted Windows 8 would be free. I also predicted a Free Windows 8 would mean a Bankrupt Microsoft. Chapter 11 in 2014. | Jun 01 19:43 | |
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| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: After all, as the most popular CC movie of all time, it is a milestone for freedom | Jun 01 19:43 |
| GoForbes28 | though it was largely created with proprietary software | Jun 01 19:43 |
| schestowitz | [19:32] <GoForbes28> Signs was good << it was OK, watched it at the threate, wasn't too shabby | Jun 01 19:44 |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: evidently....not that popular...and I'm a startrek fan | Jun 01 19:44 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: shame on you. | Jun 01 19:44 |
| schestowitz | [19:33] <_Goblin> it was a film about faith and religion << well, it was an American film | Jun 01 19:44 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Surely you have heard of Star Wreck | Jun 01 19:45 |
| GoForbes28 | Even Michael Geist has heard of Star Wreck | Jun 01 19:45 |
| GoForbes28 | :O | Jun 01 19:45 |
| _Goblin | it was an insult to intelligence....with aliens as a side note that just so happened to vulnerable to water yet chose to invade a water rich planet. | Jun 01 19:45 |
| schestowitz | IIRC the directing was quite good | Jun 01 19:45 |
| schestowitz | That shalamassomething guy | Jun 01 19:45 |
| GoForbes28 | What a twist! | Jun 01 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Shamalyn.. | Jun 01 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Could look it up :-) | Jun 01 19:46 |
| GoForbes28 | he did the sixth sense too | Jun 01 19:46 |
| _Goblin | the twist was...you'd just wasted your money on what you thought was one thing and then it turned out to be another | Jun 01 19:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I love I, Robot (I love !Asimov) | Jun 01 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @schestowitz: #RaspberryPi - Tiny Computer That Runs #Linux http://is.gd/QgUIRr "is this processor competitive with a Pentium III?" | Jun 01 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @rsandu: Android Leading in Smartphone Marketshare AND Data Usage http://is.gd/XJzYWt #android #software #mobile #microsoft #wp7 | Jun 01 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @rsandu: Nokia: Android is Killing Us in China and Europe http://is.gd/HdDst2 #nokia #android #eu #china #software #mobile | Jun 01 19:46 | |
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| _Goblin | I like freedom of choice in movies....If I go and see one, I expect to be the genre or theme which I have chosen.....not some con misled by a trailer. | Jun 01 19:46 |
| GoForbes28 | it was a scary movie, and that's how it was marketed where I was | Jun 01 19:47 |
| _Goblin | scary? | Jun 01 19:47 |
| GoForbes28 | guess Europe was weird in this case | Jun 01 19:47 |
| _Goblin | what aliens vulnerable to water? | Jun 01 19:47 |
| _Goblin | ever heard of a waterpistol? | Jun 01 19:47 |
| _Goblin | thats about every house instantly armed against them | Jun 01 19:47 |
| _Goblin | nothing scary about that | Jun 01 19:47 |
| _Goblin | and for mass destruction - go for the hose pipe | Jun 01 19:47 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah, they didn't know that until later | Jun 01 19:47 |
| _Goblin | or water bomb | Jun 01 19:47 |
| GoForbes28 | that wasn't until the end | Jun 01 19:48 |
| _Goblin | or even the super soaker.... | Jun 01 19:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nokia: Android is Killing Us in China and Europe http://is.gd/HdDst2 << and Microsoft is killing you from the inside. Like "cancer" maybe. | Jun 01 19:48 | |
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| GoForbes28 | we had clues but nothing concrete | Jun 01 19:48 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah we get it | Jun 01 19:48 |
| _Goblin | I was responding though to scary...... | Jun 01 19:48 |
| _Goblin | regardless of the water...it was silly | Jun 01 19:48 |
| _Goblin | no encounter suits for a alien race vulnerable to water? | Jun 01 19:48 |
| _Goblin | as i say, insult to intelligence | Jun 01 19:49 |
| GoForbes28 | That's a fair point | Jun 01 19:49 |
| _Goblin | aliens that have developed tech to travel the stars, yet rely on a natural defense mechanism? | Jun 01 19:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux multitasking [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/Zsf1O.jpg | Jun 01 19:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jun 01 19:49 |
| _Goblin | but worse than that.... | Jun 01 19:50 |
| _Goblin | an apparent technologically advanced race that is taken out by a baseball bat and jug of water.... | Jun 01 19:50 |
| _Goblin | or was it a glass.... | Jun 01 19:50 |
| _Goblin | surely someone in the alien boardroom said "hang on.....should we really be prancing around on this planet?" | Jun 01 19:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @mvalente: E mesmo a tempo de... deixa cá ver... http://goo.gl/GoKiP Ah, antes das eleições, é isso. | Jun 01 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @wayneborean: somewhat more civilised, I think... | Jun 01 19:51 | |
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| _Goblin | Mind you if they were real...the UK would be safe, it does nothing here but rain | Jun 01 19:51 |
| GoForbes28 | Lol, the UK | Jun 01 19:54 |
| GoForbes28 | just kidding | Jun 01 19:54 |
| GoForbes28 | you have amazing architecture there | Jun 01 19:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @schestowitz: #Microsoft strikes deal to acquire Nokia’s phone business for $19B, insider claims http://is.gd/JjkGR2 #nokia #elop #mole | Jun 01 19:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Michael Meeks's thoughts on problems #ApacheOffice would be facing, a couple of days before it actually happened. http://ur1.ca/4bolo | Jun 01 19:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I liked the Will Smith movie, but the only thing in common with the book was the title. | Jun 01 19:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Wiki Wednesday: June 1, 2011 http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/06/wiki-wednesday-june-1-2011/ | Jun 01 19:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] More #Microsoft Bribery (‘Incentives’) to Keep Linux at Bay http://is.gd/QcM30k !linux !gnu | Jun 01 20:01 | |
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| _Goblin | GoForbes28: sorry afk.... | Jun 01 20:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Mark Sheppard on Warehouse 13! Makes me wanna watch that now. Mark Sheppard is awesome!!! | Jun 01 20:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WHO MOVED MY PORTAL??????? !Miners | Jun 01 20:06 | |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: re: architecture...yep we have some great stuff.....ever seen a 1960's housing estate? Heaven on earth! | Jun 01 20:06 |
| _Goblin | I jest of course. | Jun 01 20:06 |
| _Goblin | we have a saying in the UK | Jun 01 20:07 |
| _Goblin | "If its green.....build on it" | Jun 01 20:07 |
| _Goblin | and build high | Jun 01 20:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @windigo: @johnnynull They don't have sperm in #minecraft... yet... | Jun 01 20:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google releases real time audio and video chat source code (Network World): http://bit.ly/khzGvk | Jun 01 20:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle submits OpenOffice.org codebase to Apache (Network World): http://bit.ly/kHzrDK | Jun 01 20:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @andyc: @gomerx Idea for tinap - we need a CoC. | Jun 01 20:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #TINAP Code of Conduct & Knowledge (CoCK): "Do fucking well as you please! And have a pint while you're at it." | Jun 01 20:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Michael Hogan on Warehouse 13 too! Oo | Jun 01 20:13 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: "If its green.....smoke it...and get high" :-) | Jun 01 20:13 |
| _Goblin | btw - notice anyone missing tonight? | Jun 01 20:14 |
| schestowitz | What's up with this link? http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=151977 | Jun 01 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jun 01 20:15 |
| schestowitz | It gives me just an imag | Jun 01 20:15 |
| schestowitz | Odd... | Jun 01 20:15 |
| schestowitz | linking to just images in laxer now | Jun 01 20:15 |
| schestowitz | lxer links suck those days | Jun 01 20:15 |
| _Goblin | nice looking desktop....unique | Jun 01 20:15 |
| schestowitz | same people who submit stories, lots off topic | Jun 01 20:15 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: many... why? | Jun 01 20:16 |
| _Goblin | All will be revealed....one particular user has disapeared.... | Jun 01 20:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I'm not gonna sign Fedora's fucking cock! | Jun 01 20:16 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: probably not for the first time | Jun 01 20:16 |
| schestowitz | I thought PJ too was about to disappear | Jun 01 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Wait at the porch as she put it. But she is still posting articles in Groklaw... one today | Jun 01 20:17 |
| _Goblin | Im pleased she is still around. | Jun 01 20:17 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: was Gary the AstroTurfer here? | Jun 01 20:17 |
| _Goblin | Gary? | Jun 01 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Did you recognise which nym he uses? | Jun 01 20:17 |
| _Goblin | what ever gave you that idea | Jun 01 20:17 |
| _Goblin | ..... | Jun 01 20:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] As per the #TINAP CoCK I'm having a Nukie while editing. :D | Jun 01 20:18 | |
| schestowitz | I notice that the mute user, "judasphd", vanished | Jun 01 20:18 |
| _Goblin | I'm just making comment that one particular user is not here ;) | Jun 01 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Maybe that was a troll | Jun 01 20:18 |
| _Goblin | troll? | Jun 01 20:18 |
| _Goblin | nah | Jun 01 20:18 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: many are not here | Jun 01 20:18 |
| schestowitz | chips, lee, lots of others | Jun 01 20:18 |
| _Goblin | Im just messing.......I'll explain all pre-show | Jun 01 20:19 |
| schestowitz | OK. Oh, where's Rusty? | Jun 01 20:19 |
| schestowitz | He too was hanging out here. | Jun 01 20:19 |
| _Goblin | I spoke with him last night | Jun 01 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Cool. | Jun 01 20:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @andyc: 'We're #tinap. We do what we want'. As long as we check with our Mummies first. | Jun 01 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] lies, damn lines and statistics http://lwn.net/Articles/445646/ ♻ @lwnnet: How much GNU is there in GNU/Linux? | Jun 01 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @wayneborean: true... | Jun 01 20:19 | |
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| _Goblin | very keen to be part of the show | Jun 01 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Nice one | Jun 01 20:20 |
| _Goblin | Techbytes - The show with the most beard? | Jun 01 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Jun 01 20:20 |
| _Goblin | you are the odd one out..... | Jun 01 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Will have to grow one... | Jun 01 20:20 |
| _Goblin | you better get started.... | Jun 01 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Does Gordon have one? | Jun 01 20:20 |
| _Goblin | I want a stallman by august | Jun 01 20:20 |
| _Goblin | not sure..... | Jun 01 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Stallman trimmed his off | Jun 01 20:20 |
| _Goblin | never asked... | Jun 01 20:20 |
| schestowitz | he used to have it long | Jun 01 20:20 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: @andyc People tell you hosting is about "passing the ball". It's not, it's about grabbing it and keeping it :D | Jun 01 20:23 | |
| GoForbes28 | BTW, when's the next show? | Jun 01 20:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @MarleeMatlin Tornado Watch for NYC⇒If you know anyone deaf/hard of hearing or physically disabled, reach out/ensure they're in the loop | Jun 01 20:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Nation partners with WikiLeaks & Haiti Liberté http://is.gd/LNZkZ5 | Jun 01 20:24 | |
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| _Goblin | GoForbes28: I would guess on the weekend... | Jun 01 20:25 |
| _Goblin | Im off for 4 days.... | Jun 01 20:25 |
| _Goblin | until next wed | Jun 01 20:25 |
| GoForbes28 | crap, I won't be here :( | Jun 01 20:26 |
| schestowitz | You're set to be in it | Jun 01 20:26 |
| GoForbes28 | I guess we'll try for next weekend | Jun 01 20:26 |
| GoForbes28 | lol, I set myself to in it | Jun 01 20:26 |
| schestowitz | I need to come up with interview questions | Jun 01 20:26 |
| _Goblin | unless Roy you record it solo and then add to weekend show | Jun 01 20:26 |
| _Goblin | mind you, I now need to challenge goforbes about his Signs and 2001 opinions..... ;) | Jun 01 20:27 |
| _Goblin | maybe that can be a separate show.... | Jun 01 20:27 |
| GoForbes28 | yes, cause that has everything to do with Patents and corporate anti-behaviour | Jun 01 20:27 |
| _Goblin | well.... | Jun 01 20:27 |
| GoForbes28 | The Brit and the Fake Brit? | Jun 01 20:27 |
| _Goblin | the movie industry does | Jun 01 20:27 |
| GoForbes28 | there shouldn't be a movie "industry" in my mind | Jun 01 20:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh god. I think I might have to leave Fedora. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2011-March/010525.html | Jun 01 20:28 | |
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| _Goblin | if people will buy, they will make | Jun 01 20:28 |
| _Goblin | remove one the other falls away | Jun 01 20:28 |
| GoForbes28 | that would be the distribution industry | Jun 01 20:28 |
| GoForbes28 | movies and plays etc. will continue without an industry | Jun 01 20:28 |
| _Goblin | so how would one fund a CC movie with patrick stewart in it? | Jun 01 20:28 |
| _Goblin | donations? | Jun 01 20:28 |
| _Goblin | look at pioneer one....great show....hugely popular....they are nowhere near their targets | Jun 01 20:29 |
| GoForbes28 | What is Pioneer One? | Jun 01 20:29 |
| _Goblin | its a scifi series.....I've been pimping it on Techbytes..... CCC | Jun 01 20:29 |
| _Goblin | *CC | Jun 01 20:29 |
| GoForbes28 | ah | Jun 01 20:29 |
| GoForbes28 | ok, you missed my meaning | Jun 01 20:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Asus netbooks include #MeeGo model http://is.gd/Mz6elS #Microsoft hopes to derail such OEM efforts http://is.gd/QcM30k http://is.gd/AUWnZh | Jun 01 20:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Part of a not-so-secret plan to suck more? To quote Jayne: "This is disappointing as hell." | Jun 01 20:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 The Nation partners with WikiLeaks & Haiti Liberté http://is.gd/LNZkZ5 | Jun 01 20:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 Got to the beach, but i do can switch my friend placido, and now have far less temptation to feed the pigeons or get scared | Jun 01 20:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh You may wish to note I raised a gentle objection to the idea of a #click-thru #CoC acceptance http://ur1.ca/4boqz | Jun 01 20:29 | |
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| GoForbes28 | I meant the terminology alientates the artist part | Jun 01 20:30 |
| GoForbes28 | like "music industry" | Jun 01 20:30 |
| radioboy | this looks like FUD: http://www.techradar.com/news/software/free-software-is-facing-a-monumental-test-959108#ixzz1O19y97Zr | Jun 01 20:30 |
| _Goblin | thats true. | Jun 01 20:30 |
| GoForbes28 | manufactured music is a bad thing | Jun 01 20:30 |
| _Goblin | but then how would you group the artists as a whole | Jun 01 20:30 |
| _Goblin | in one medium? | Jun 01 20:30 |
| GoForbes28 | huh? | Jun 01 20:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 01 20:30 |
| schestowitz | radioboy: typical Graham Morrison pieces | Jun 01 20:31 |
| schestowitz | I think the headlines are not his, though | Jun 01 20:31 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm saying that equating making music with making WD-40 in assembly plants is wrong | Jun 01 20:31 |
| schestowitz | Always spreading doubts there | Jun 01 20:31 |
| _Goblin | Well if you have a musician who produces commercial material, how would you group him/her? | Jun 01 20:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] As @th3k4ty says: "If you implement something like a CoC you switch off comon sense and replace it with rules." So true. | Jun 01 20:31 | |
| _Goblin | what is he/she part of. | Jun 01 20:31 |
| _Goblin | I think thats what Im getting at | Jun 01 20:31 |
| radioboy | I see, but the content of the article seems quite far from reality | Jun 01 20:31 |
| GoForbes28 | a shallow musician | Jun 01 20:31 |
| _Goblin | fair play. | Jun 01 20:32 |
| GoForbes28 | a Phil Collins | Jun 01 20:32 |
| _Goblin | but maybe clever? | Jun 01 20:32 |
| _Goblin | I wouldn't mind being a few quid behind Collins | Jun 01 20:32 |
| GoForbes28 | though to be fair, I think Phil wasn't trying to be commericial, he just really liked the kind of music he made | Jun 01 20:32 |
| GoForbes28 | which happened to be poppy | Jun 01 20:32 |
| _Goblin | its very true though that humble beginnings usually have the better material...... | Jun 01 20:32 |
| _Goblin | look no further than GnR | Jun 01 20:33 |
| GoForbes28 | or Genesis | Jun 01 20:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana "Is there any particular reason we don't want to be heavy handed" I mean WTF, man!? What. The. FUCK!? | Jun 01 20:33 | |
| GoForbes28 | though Rush is the exception | Jun 01 20:33 |
| _Goblin | after Appetite, it all really fell appart in terms of classic tracks. | Jun 01 20:33 |
| _Goblin | Metalica.....another one | Jun 01 20:33 |
| _Goblin | The Levellers | Jun 01 20:33 |
| _Goblin | I'll stop there. | Jun 01 20:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Rush is an example of what happens when the industry is irrelevent | Jun 01 20:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Peter Gabriel is another | Jun 01 20:34 |
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| GoForbes28 | Rush will continue to be Rush forever | Jun 01 20:34 |
| _Goblin | ICP? | Jun 01 20:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Do you think they'd listen to me? I'm sure this is being implemented *because* of people like me. | Jun 01 20:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security updates for Wednesday http://lwn.net/Articles/445637/rss | Jun 01 20:34 | |
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| GoForbes28 | in-class problem? | Jun 01 20:34 |
| _Goblin | Insane Clown Posse | Jun 01 20:35 |
| GoForbes28 | ok... | Jun 01 20:35 |
| GoForbes28 | are you equating them with Rush? | Jun 01 20:35 |
| GoForbes28 | !google insane clown posse | Jun 01 20:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Insane Clown Posse Official Site | http://www.insaneclownposse.com/ | Jun 01 20:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Insane Clown Posse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insane_Clown_Posse | Jun 01 20:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - YouTube - Insane Clown Posse - Miracles | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D_-agl0pOQfs | Jun 01 20:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - HatchetGear.com - The Official Psychopathic Records Webstore | http://www.hatchetgear.com/ | Jun 01 20:36 |
| GoForbes28 | ok | Jun 01 20:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fedora: You just raised your sucking level twofold. Oo | Jun 01 20:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Back to the FUture much? [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/GuUwX.jpg | Jun 01 20:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh I assume it's being adopted because there are people far worse than you :-) | Jun 01 20:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wayneborean @glynmoody FYI - Trademark Squatters 0001 – OutbackZack | Wayne Borean - In which the lawyer makes threats: http://bit.l ... | Jun 01 20:36 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Arcade Fire is one more modern band that I think has the potential too | Jun 01 20:36 |
| GoForbes28 | Arcade Fire is the first modern music that I have found interesting | Jun 01 20:36 |
| GoForbes28 | Well maybe not the first, but at least the first modern original band | Jun 01 20:37 |
| _Goblin | I brought this up the other night... | Jun 01 20:38 |
| _Goblin | most original? | Jun 01 20:38 |
| _Goblin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnKQHNiQphU | Jun 01 20:38 |
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| GoForbes28 | no, I said Arcade Fire was the first original modern band (aka not Rush making new music) that I have found interesting | Jun 01 20:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Yeah? Who? I'd like to meet them. Maybe they are more sensible than that bunch.... | Jun 01 20:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh I take no responsibility for this, despite @bkuhn's apparent belief that I do or should :) | Jun 01 20:39 | |
| _Goblin | ah.... | Jun 01 20:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh In fairness I have no good idea what sort of people there are in the !Fedora community that prompted the desire to implement a #CoC | Jun 01 20:41 | |
| GoForbes28 | tisk tisk | Jun 01 20:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @aptidude: @gomerx @fabsh Maybe someone needs to fluff the CoC to make it more acceptable? | Jun 01 20:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Yeah, I know. You didn't strike me as a type. Totally agree with your response on the list. | Jun 01 20:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva 2011 Beta 3 Looks Awesome, Screenshot Tour http://is.gd/8eB0Xg new releases of derivatives have also just come out | Jun 01 20:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mageia 1 http://lwn.net/Articles/445661/rss | Jun 01 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh I have found @Crosbie to be BS free. He's just ahead of his time, so much of what he says requires serious consideration... | Jun 01 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh ... and an open mind, both of which can be very much in short supply in our modern world. | Jun 01 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana It's one of these ideas that sounds good for harmony-loving hippies that can't think critically, IMO. They thing it actually helps. | Jun 01 20:46 | |
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| GoForbes28 | I looked at the Mandriva screenshots and was underwhelmed | Jun 01 20:46 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: new Netrunner version http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=netrunner | Jun 01 20:48 |
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| GoForbes28 | better link: http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06708 | Jun 01 20:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 210 dents! | Jun 01 20:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jargon @jompa89 if a woman can't use !crunchbang,then she can't be my girlfriend. period! :P !linux | Jun 01 20:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Exploring social search with Twitter Address Bar Search http://mozillalabs.com/prospector/2011/06/01/exploring-social-search-with-twitter-ad | Jun 01 20:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: #Qt coding challenge on @QtDeveloppez - http://ht.ly/57rQZ #French | Jun 01 20:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @allaboutmeego: Acer Iconia M500 - MeeGo tablet shown at Computex http://dlvr.it/TjJyH #MeeGo | Jun 01 20:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @achipa: RT @meegofi: MeeGo Summer Party at Tampere! http://ping.fm/SOajD #MeeGo | Jun 01 20:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Engadget video and pics of Acer m500 tablet running MeeGo at Computex http://fb.me/NSVNfSJX #MeeGo | Jun 01 20:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: More pics and video of the MeeGo powered Acer m500 tablet including what appears to be AppUp http://fb.me/H7tmPllk #MeeGo | Jun 01 20:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @bkuhn I've blogged about !Oracle & !IBM's plan to !Apache -2.0 relicense !OpenOffice & its potential impact on !LibreOffice : http:/ ... | Jun 01 20:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I'm gonna sign the PUSSY! :D ♺ @vanden: @fabsh Please Undertake to Socially Sanitize Yourself | Jun 01 20:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Why can't weather websites fucking geolocate me like fucking Google? Enter zip code??? Total FAIL! | Jun 01 21:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @munkybone: @fabsh How about TITS? Totally Indentured Technical Slavery | Jun 01 21:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Oracle To Give OpenOffice.org To Apache Incubator http://bit.ly/mT4tne Wow. | Jun 01 21:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @lxoliva: sadly... | Jun 01 21:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is #Africa getting tough on #China? - http://buswk.co/jMlZwV interesting shift, if real... | Jun 01 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] As if Fedora didn't have real problems to worry about.... m( | Jun 01 21:09 | |
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| schestowitz | [20:46] <GoForbes28> I looked at the Mandriva screenshots and was underwhelmed | Jun 01 21:11 |
| schestowitz | Same here | Jun 01 21:11 |
| _Goblin | Im just taking a look at MiniNo | Jun 01 21:11 |
| schestowitz | the glory days for Mandriva are behind | Jun 01 21:11 |
| schestowitz | Sadly, Ubuntu ain't doing too well, either | Jun 01 21:11 |
| schestowitz | But mobility counts no | Jun 01 21:12 |
| schestowitz | *now | Jun 01 21:12 |
| GoForbes28 | mobility? | Jun 01 21:12 |
| schestowitz | MeeGo, Splashtop's new brand name, Android, etc. | Jun 01 21:12 |
| GoForbes28 | Is that like "cloud"? | Jun 01 21:12 |
| schestowitz | WebOS. | Jun 01 21:12 |
| GoForbes28 | ah | Jun 01 21:12 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: what is cloud? | Jun 01 21:12 |
| GoForbes28 | Hype | Jun 01 21:12 |
| GoForbes28 | water vapour | Jun 01 21:12 |
| schestowitz | It was cloudy all month here | Jun 01 21:12 |
| GoForbes28 | foggy too? | Jun 01 21:12 |
| schestowitz | I lost the tan I got in April | Jun 01 21:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hey! Let's all have a CoC party!!! | Jun 01 21:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @bkuhn I've blogged about !Oracle & !IBM's plan to !Apache -2.0 relicense !OpenOffice & its potential impact on !LibreOffice : http:/ ... | Jun 01 21:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ditching Copyleft to Compete with a Fork? - http://bit.ly/lSTF0t excellent analysis of licensing implications of OpenOffice moving to apache | Jun 01 21:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ditching Copyleft to Compete with a Fork? - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) .::. Size~: 25.69 KB | Jun 01 21:13 |
| GoForbes28 | you shouldn't tan! | Jun 01 21:13 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: wha's that? | Jun 01 21:13 |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: minino? | Jun 01 21:13 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: some vitamin d ain't too lethal | Jun 01 21:13 |
| schestowitz | was it D? | Jun 01 21:13 |
| schestowitz | can't recall | Jun 01 21:13 |
| GoForbes28 | yes | Jun 01 21:14 |
| _Goblin | its a debian derived lightweight distro | Jun 01 21:14 |
| GoForbes28 | I remember by Daylight | Jun 01 21:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Certainly you have a right to your own opinion. | Jun 01 21:14 | |
| GoForbes28 | !google debian minino | Jun 01 21:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Download GALPon MiniNo 1.2 for Linux - A lightweight, Debian-based ... | http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/GALPon-MiniNo-60668.shtml | Jun 01 21:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - minino - Debian Mailing Lists | http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/02/msg00694.html | Jun 01 21:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bug#614054: netcfg: Debian-Installer hangs searching network wired ... | http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/02/msg00695.html | Jun 01 21:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - YouTube - Galpol Minino.....Lenny in spanish... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DB5xC8XTDFXw | Jun 01 21:15 |
| GoForbes28 | ugh, pcmanfm | Jun 01 21:15 |
| GoForbes28 | though that can be fixed | Jun 01 21:15 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jun 01 21:16 |
| MinceR | hay | Jun 01 21:16 |
| GoForbes28 | is for horses | Jun 01 21:17 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Having survived a "common sense revolution" I find I value uncommon sense more highly. | Jun 01 21:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Common Sense = Family Feud TV show "The Survey says..." | Jun 01 21:18 | |
| _Goblin | hi sebsebseb | Jun 01 21:18 |
| MinceR | and for you! | Jun 01 21:18 |
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| GoForbes28 | lol, if I was starved and stranded in field I guess | Jun 01 21:19 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Have you tried Mepis lately? | Jun 01 21:20 |
| schestowitz | no, never have | Jun 01 21:21 |
| schestowitz | In believe _Goblin may have tried it | Jun 01 21:21 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: the big day is today.. | Jun 01 21:21 |
| _Goblin | yep...a while ago... | Jun 01 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Warren Woodsomething was the developer... | Jun 01 21:22 |
| schestowitz | Woodward? | Jun 01 21:22 |
| schestowitz | IIRC he had to start making money elsewhere | Jun 01 21:22 |
| schestowitz | Not enough donations or sales | Jun 01 21:22 |
| schestowitz | Then he chastised the GPL | Jun 01 21:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I've often come in contact and got to know techrights.org as being one of the top existing electronic publications in the IT field." Nice! | Jun 01 21:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Canada tries to hide Alberta tar sands carbon emissions - http://bit.ly/iS9hRj #canada plays dirty again... #tarsands | Jun 01 21:23 | |
| schestowitz | And distanced himself from some of the userbase that way | Jun 01 21:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canada tries to hide Alberta tar sands carbon emissions | Suzanne Goldenberg | Environment | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 189.91 KB | Jun 01 21:23 |
| schestowitz | And that's what I think of when I hear of MEPIS | Jun 01 21:23 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Can I have Ops back please? | Jun 01 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Sure | Jun 01 21:23 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Jun 01 21:24 | |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to _Goblin | Jun 01 21:24 | |
| _Goblin | merci | Jun 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | Bossing the channel | Jun 01 21:24 |
| _Goblin | lol... | Jun 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | I reckon Gary the psycho is here | Jun 01 21:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh No, but I am not a tech person, merely a tech user. I'm a fiction writer, and well aware of how !copyright can harm creators. | Jun 01 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Haiti: Let them live on /day http://is.gd/nBP58y | Jun 01 21:24 | |
| _Goblin | Oh you are so suspicious! | Jun 01 21:24 |
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| schestowitz | counting the pennies from Ballmer | Jun 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | And preparing the next cheap shots | Jun 01 21:25 |
| schestowitz | "Will shill for food... and mousepads" | Jun 01 21:25 |
| schestowitz | He needs to compete with people in poorer countries | Jun 01 21:25 |
| schestowitz | "Will shill for MVP title (no physical gift)" | Jun 01 21:25 |
| _Goblin | you get a plaque | Jun 01 21:26 |
| _Goblin | and a coin to stick in it every year you are branded | Jun 01 21:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh In my area of expertise, I judge @Crosbie to be about as far from quackerie as it is possible to get. But then, innovation is hard. | Jun 01 21:26 | |
| _Goblin | a little like tatooing cattle | Jun 01 21:26 |
| _Goblin | or their pieces of silver for a job well done | Jun 01 21:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks2 WikiLeaks Haiti: Let them live on /day http://is.gd/nBP58y | Jun 01 21:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [correct link - sorry] Is #Africa getting tough on #China? - http://bit.ly/kHBBhy interesting shift, if real... | Jun 01 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @glynmoody Canada tries to hide Alberta tar sands carbon emissions - http://ur1.ca/4bozn !canada plays dirty again... #tarsands !cdnpoli | Jun 01 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Haiti: The PetroCaribe files http://alturl.com/h6ugx | Jun 01 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Yet !copyright law applies to both. | Jun 01 21:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Android will eclipse in the next two years. It is just a matter of getting the devices into the market" http://is.gd/mHPwMD #linux | Jun 01 21:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh There was an excellent story called "The Marching Morons" written by Cyril M. Kornbluth in the 1950's that you should read | Jun 01 21:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 193 million downloads on 2011-06-01 20:27 UTC | Jun 01 21:33 | |
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| _Goblin | marvellous | Jun 01 21:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ("Dapper Drake") end of life http://lwn.net/Articles/445677/rss | Jun 01 21:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's the purpose or the relevance of the photo here http://is.gd/LlrKRL | Jun 01 21:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh !copyleft is a hack in response to !copyright | Jun 01 21:38 | |
| ender_33 | I lost our chat goforbes28 | Jun 01 21:38 |
| ender_33 | laurelrusswurm - even RMS needs copyright or the GPL has no teeth | Jun 01 21:38 |
| _Goblin | Well Im going to dump you lot....I'm a millionare....just got one of those emails: "I write to solicit your assistance in a fund transfer deal involving US$ 8.5M.This fund has been stashed out of the excess profit made last year by my branch office of the International Commercial Bank which I am the Manager." | Jun 01 21:39 |
| _Goblin | Its convinced me....must send bank details...... | Jun 01 21:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Asus shows Android-based phone/tablet combo and seven-inch 3D device http://is.gd/4bFZvz #ASUS has rediscovered that #ItsBetterWithLinux | Jun 01 21:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Asus shows Android-based phone/tablet combo and seven-inch 3D device - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.8 KB | Jun 01 21:39 |
| MinceR | eventually we might be able to do without those teeth | Jun 01 21:40 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: it's a TRAP! | Jun 01 21:40 |
| MinceR | but m$ and crApple need to die first | Jun 01 21:40 |
| MinceR | maybe others too | Jun 01 21:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @xoke: @fabsh: It's the CoC and cake party. Except we're all out of cake... | Jun 01 21:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh I have read the GPL, which is not the same as saying I understand it all, #IANAL either. It lives on a page in my serialization blog | Jun 01 21:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz Asus shows Android-based phone/tablet combo and seven-inch 3D device http://is.gd/4bFZvz #ASUS has rediscovered that #It ... | Jun 01 21:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Asus shows Android-based phone/tablet combo and seven-inch 3D device - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.8 KB | Jun 01 21:41 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: lol......nah...sounds very legit to me | Jun 01 21:43 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: because all bank managers use terminology like "stashed" | Jun 01 21:44 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jun 01 21:45 |
| _Goblin | I often reply to these with silly names just to waste their time | Jun 01 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Vista Phony 7 with 1% of less market share in slaes | Jun 01 21:45 |
| schestowitz | So one or less in 100 phones is from Microsoft | Jun 01 21:45 |
| _Goblin | I still think that stat seems inflated. | Jun 01 21:45 |
| schestowitz | ot rather, runs anything from Microsoft | Jun 01 21:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: #Aldabra – GTK2 port of !GNOME 3′s default theme http://goo.gl/Jxq9c | Jun 01 21:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ‘Aldabra’ – GTK2 port of GNOME 3′s default theme .::. Size~: 37.57 KB | Jun 01 21:46 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: I need to correct you...... You don't run Microsoft products, you suffer them. | Jun 01 21:46 |
| schestowitz | or tolerate? | Jun 01 21:47 |
| _Goblin | tolerate? endure? | Jun 01 21:47 |
| _Goblin | yes I think endure. | Jun 01 21:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh That is speculation. Abolishing !copyright does not mean abolishing law, just the particularly mendacious !copyright law. | Jun 01 21:48 | |
| schestowitz | See my next dent LOL | Jun 01 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Endue Live(R) | Jun 01 21:48 |
| ender_33 | how do you prevent microsoft from stealing code if its all up for grabs and no copyright to protect it (public domain) | Jun 01 21:48 |
| ender_33 | RMS brought this fact up with the pirate party | Jun 01 21:48 |
| _Goblin | its why they give away a 360 with a Windows PC to a student....its so you can play a game whilst the damn Windows machine boots. | Jun 01 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Nokia sells boots | Jun 01 21:49 |
| _Goblin | I could complete Final Fantasy from beginning to end before Windows has finished loading. | Jun 01 21:49 |
| ender_33 | _Goblin - LOL | Jun 01 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer wants to sell the rest | Jun 01 21:49 |
| ender_33 | do you have a pentium 2? | Jun 01 21:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Larry Ellison buys the house next door (for $40 mill) b/c its trees blocked his view of the San Fran bay (Curbed): http://bit.ly/lC8gWm | Jun 01 21:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Bradley M. Kuhn: Ditching Copyleft to Compete with a Fork? http://goo.gl/rvc7P #libreoffice | Jun 01 21:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pacific Heights: Larry Ellison Buys House Next Door for $40M, Shrubbery Fracas Settled - Billionaire's Row - Curbed SF .::. Size~: 62.5 KB | Jun 01 21:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ditching Copyleft to Compete with a Fork? - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) .::. Size~: 25.69 KB | Jun 01 21:49 |
| _Goblin | brb phone | Jun 01 21:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In the US, 99+% of the phones sold contains nothing from Microsoft (except patent tax in #HTC #Samsung #LG #KMita Android phones) | Jun 01 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: #Google +1 is like #Facebook “Like”, and now on the !Android Market website http://goo.gl/9Bapr | Jun 01 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] There's a movie called "Sourcecode"? This will be absolutely horrible, right? | Jun 01 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What ever happened with those unsold Kins? Did they use them to plug the hole BP had opened? #microsoft #kin #wp7 #fail | Jun 01 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh True. But it takes time and effort when one is not. | Jun 01 21:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Androinica » Google +1 is like Facebook “Like”, and now on the Android Market website .::. Size~: 46.32 KB | Jun 01 21:51 |
| MinceR | ender_33: if there's no m$, they don't get to steal anything. | Jun 01 21:52 |
| ender_33 | what about apple and google | Jun 01 21:52 |
| ender_33 | other corporations | Jun 01 21:52 |
| ender_33 | plenty of companies would love free labour without having to abide by a license | Jun 01 21:53 |
| ender_33 | look at those currently exploiting BSD | Jun 01 21:53 |
| ender_33 | it would be worse than BSD | Jun 01 21:53 |
| MinceR | yet not everyone who uses or changes BSD code turns it into proprietary code | Jun 01 21:53 |
| MinceR | so perhaps habits could be changed | Jun 01 21:54 |
| ender_33 | I think its more or less you guys just don't want to have to pay for the other things copyright protects | Jun 01 21:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks hit Egypt for round#2 in new series with Ciaro partner al-Masry al-Youm http://alturl.com/sioap | Jun 01 21:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @bkuhn: Free Software is a multi-generational marathon, not a sprint | Jun 01 21:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh First, I don't see anything wrong in speculation, just in equating speculation with fact. | Jun 01 21:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 01 21:54 |
| MinceR | i think that's argumentum ad hominem | Jun 01 21:54 |
| MinceR | and invalid even ignoring that | Jun 01 21:55 |
| ender_33 | free software makes sure that you can always get the code, but what about music, art, video games, and movies | Jun 01 21:55 |
| MinceR | you don't realize what the MAFIAA is doing, do you? | Jun 01 21:55 |
| ender_33 | they are on the extreme end of things | Jun 01 21:55 |
| MinceR | they are also in control | Jun 01 21:55 |
| ender_33 | i dont want to spend a year researching and writing, only to give it away completely for free | Jun 01 21:55 |
| ender_33 | my time is worth money | Jun 01 21:56 |
| MinceR | do you want to give software you've written away completely for free? | Jun 01 21:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @schestowitz "Google's Android operating system accounted for 36 percent of U.S. smartphone market " (acc. to private data) http://is ... | Jun 01 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks releases secret documents on Egyptian nuclear power plant http://alturl.com/sioap | Jun 01 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Without a time machine, nothing is written in stone ... even with, if there are alternate time lines, nothing is written in stone. | Jun 01 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Cooking up my #CPUs having my 4 cores I7 and my 4 Cores Xeron working there ass off backing up my #BSG DVDs | Jun 01 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Considering how demented many "coder" things appear to noncoders, that is not necessarily an advantage | Jun 01 21:56 | |
| MinceR | is time spent coding worth money? | Jun 01 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 01 21:56 |
| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/xgXjH/ | Jun 01 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: Doctor Who 6x07: A Good Man goes to War Preview .::. Size~: 5.45 KB | Jun 01 21:56 |
| ender_33 | it depends on what I wrote | Jun 01 21:56 |
| ender_33 | im not a coder | Jun 01 21:56 |
| ender_33 | i wouldnt volunteer time to write a video game, i'd want to be paid doing that | Jun 01 21:57 |
| MinceR | so you ignore coders | Jun 01 21:57 |
| MinceR | are you an artist? | Jun 01 21:57 |
| ender_33 | im an author | Jun 01 21:57 |
| ender_33 | of text | Jun 01 21:57 |
| MinceR | so you think authors should get paid for their work or coders should not? | Jun 01 21:57 |
| ender_33 | the copyright and creative commons protect me | Jun 01 21:57 |
| ender_33 | coders should be paid | Jun 01 21:58 |
| MinceR | in the same way, authors can be paid too | Jun 01 21:58 |
| ender_33 | its their option to do it for free | Jun 01 21:58 |
| ender_33 | people wanting to abolish copyright want to make that decision for others | Jun 01 21:58 |
| MinceR | people introducing and keeping copyright are also making a decision for others | Jun 01 21:59 |
| ender_33 | you have the right to give it up | Jun 01 21:59 |
| ender_33 | if there is no copyright, you have no right to protect it | Jun 01 21:59 |
| MinceR | law and government, by their very nature are about making decisions for others | Jun 01 21:59 |
| ender_33 | you cant have it both ways if copyright is gone | Jun 01 21:59 |
| ender_33 | you can only have it the marxist way | Jun 01 21:59 |
| MinceR | godwin's law, non-national version :> | Jun 01 22:00 |
| ender_33 | abolution of property is what im against | Jun 01 22:00 |
| MinceR | ah, so you think that "intellectual property" exists | Jun 01 22:00 |
| ender_33 | yes | Jun 01 22:00 |
| MinceR | so you think that copyright, trademark and patents are one and the same | Jun 01 22:01 |
| MinceR | and that copies are not free | Jun 01 22:01 |
| MinceR | you wouldn't download a car | Jun 01 22:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @andyc: Shit. The Fall don't even have guitar techs. Or any techs. | Jun 01 22:01 | |
| ender_33 | trademark and patents are a different ballgame | Jun 01 22:01 |
| ender_33 | I propose weaker copyright, not no copyright | Jun 01 22:02 |
| MinceR | how much weaker? | Jun 01 22:02 |
| ender_33 | 50- years after death is extreme | Jun 01 22:02 |
| ender_33 | perhaps a year or two only | Jun 01 22:02 |
| ender_33 | just enough to cover the investment of time | Jun 01 22:03 |
| schestowitz |  | Jun 01 22:03 |
| MinceR | well, that would certainly work better than what we have now | Jun 01 22:03 |
| schestowitz | [21:58] <ender_33> coders should be paid | Jun 01 22:03 |
| schestowitz | They are | Jun 01 22:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is extremely hard to steal computer code. The only way to do it requires #DRM (to prevent other side from accessing own code). | Jun 01 22:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #DRM enables code to be stolen, who needs DRM? End theft of code by abolishing DRM. | Jun 01 22:03 | |
| ender_33 | so people get paid for what they do | Jun 01 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Even for developing FOSS | Jun 01 22:03 |
| ender_33 | how do you get paid 'supporting' a book? you can't | Jun 01 22:03 |
| MinceR | but you do realize it would mean that copyleft stops working after a year or two, right? | Jun 01 22:03 |
| schestowitz | And youre fallacy is that just because you author text you will be paid | Jun 01 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Many aspiring authors/singers don't get paid | Jun 01 22:03 |
| ender_33 | schestowitz - self publishing has seen a boom since the internet | Jun 01 22:04 |
| schestowitz | The distribution of rewards (wealth) is insanely bad there | Jun 01 22:04 |
| MinceR | you can get paid for writing a book without selling licenses in the exact same way you can get paid for writing free software without selling licenses | Jun 01 22:04 |
| schestowitz | To say you need copyright to get paid it to assume people will want to read YOUR stuff | Jun 01 22:04 |
| GoForbes28 | ender_33: I agree with weaker copyright | Jun 01 22:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: who was that Galem (??) author who explained it in a video you gave? | Jun 01 22:04 |
| GoForbes28 | It gives incentives to muscians for example to actually make music | Jun 01 22:05 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: for few | Jun 01 22:05 |
| GoForbes28 | not "Hit song, I'll make more music if I feel like it, SUE MY FANS" | Jun 01 22:05 |
| schestowitz | nLOL | Jun 01 22:05 |
| schestowitz | True.. | Jun 01 22:05 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: Gaiman? | Jun 01 22:05 |
| GoForbes28 | If they can not consistently make good music, then they aren't good musicians | Jun 01 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Copyright makes scarcity | Jun 01 22:05 |
| schestowitz | It should not be called copyright | Jun 01 22:05 |
| schestowitz | It should be called copylimiter | Jun 01 22:06 |
| GoForbes28 | copyrestriction? | Jun 01 22:06 |
| schestowitz | that too | Jun 01 22:06 |
| schestowitz | they say copyright restrictions | Jun 01 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Like it's a right | Jun 01 22:06 |
| schestowitz | ANd it's right to have it | Jun 01 22:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh speculation, forecasting, guessing, whatever you want to call it, no one *knows* what would happen if !copyright were abolished. | Jun 01 22:06 | |
| schestowitz | copywrong | Jun 01 22:06 |
| ender_33 | schestowitz - people go to stores all the time to buy books | Jun 01 22:07 |
| GoForbes28 | calling it copyright has never made any sense to me | Jun 01 22:07 |
| GoForbes28 | but then again, this is the same train of thought that created such brilliant terms as internet piracy, intellectual property, copyright theft, and on and on | Jun 01 22:08 |
| ender_33 | schestowitz - people make a lot of money selling $1.00 books too, self published, without the evil authors guild or other RIAA like groups | Jun 01 22:08 |
| GoForbes28 | I can make up stupid terms too | Jun 01 22:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff @RIAA is at it again! Say no to warrantless searches of California CD/DVD manufacturing plants! https://eff.org/r.46b | Jun 01 22:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Big Media Tramples On Constitutional Rights to Protect Antiquated Business Model | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 24.86 KB | Jun 01 22:08 |
| GoForbes28 | eating food is food assault | Jun 01 22:08 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 01 22:08 |
| GoForbes28 | picking a flower is plant rape | Jun 01 22:08 |
| MinceR | plant murder | Jun 01 22:08 |
| ender_33 | just cause some of you can grab a torrent full of ebooks doesn't mean writing isn't worth money | Jun 01 22:08 |
| MinceR | or plant dismemberment | Jun 01 22:09 |
| ender_33 | we cant all get paid by ad bard to run sensationalist headlines | Jun 01 22:09 |
| MinceR | ender_33: just because you can grab a torrent full of ebooks doesn't mean everyone will always do that | Jun 01 22:09 |
| GoForbes28 | intellectual copyright goods | Jun 01 22:09 |
| MinceR | you need to watch that video by Neil Gaiman, apparently | Jun 01 22:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:08] <GoForbes28> but then again, this is the same train of thought that created such brilliant terms as internet piracy, intellectual property, copyright theft, and on and on << and "high-tech terrorism" (wikileaks) | Jun 01 22:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Will it be Linux 3.1 just in time for Android 3.1? Unlikely. | Jun 01 22:09 | |
| GoForbes28 | internet hate machine | Jun 01 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Whistleblowing is terrorism now | Jun 01 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Oh, that too | Jun 01 22:10 |
| schestowitz | "Hate speech" | Jun 01 22:10 |
| ender_33 | you'll never see proprietary companies lobbying to force open source to become proprietary too | Jun 01 22:10 |
| schestowitz | SOmbody think of da chill drane! | Jun 01 22:10 |
| GoForbes28 | lol, really ender_33? | Jun 01 22:10 |
| ender_33 | yeah | Jun 01 22:10 |
| schestowitz | !google biden is a high-tech terrorist | Jun 01 22:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Julian Assange like a hi-tech terrorist, says Joe Biden | Media ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/19/assange-high-tech-terrorist-biden | Jun 01 22:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Joe Biden: Julian Assange Is a 'High-Tech' Terrorist | http://www.newser.com/story/107910/joe-biden-julian-assange-is-a-high-tech-terrorist.html | Jun 01 22:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Biden Makes Case For Assange As A 'High-Tech Terrorist' | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/19/joe-biden-wikileaks-assange-high-tech-terrorist_n_798838.html | Jun 01 22:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Biden: US in Pursuit of 'Hi-Tech Terrorist' Assange | Common Dreams | http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/12/19-1 | Jun 01 22:10 |
| MinceR | ender_33: (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI | Jun 01 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Gaiman on Copyright Piracy and the Web .::. Size~: 107.72 KB | Jun 01 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Obama too | Jun 01 22:11 |
| GoForbes28 | ender_33: Of course they lobby, they just do it in a different way | Jun 01 22:11 |
| schestowitz | is a high-tech terrorist ... drones killing civilians | Jun 01 22:11 |
| GoForbes28 | not necessarily lobbying, more like manipulation | Jun 01 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Something like kill ratio of 99 victims for each target | Jun 01 22:11 |
| MinceR | 230631 < ender_33> you'll never see proprietary companies lobbying to force open source to become proprietary too | Jun 01 22:11 |
| ender_33 | where are the groups trying to abolish public domain | Jun 01 22:11 |
| MinceR | dead wrong | Jun 01 22:11 |
| MinceR | ever heard about software patents? | Jun 01 22:11 |
| ender_33 | mincer - sources | Jun 01 22:11 |
| MinceR | software patent pools used offensively | Jun 01 22:11 |
| ender_33 | software patents are optional | Jun 01 22:11 |
| MinceR | mpeg la | Jun 01 22:11 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's so optional | Jun 01 22:11 |
| GoForbes28 | ender_33: Uhh, the MPAA? and RIAA? Remember the unlimited copyright proporsal? | Jun 01 22:12 |
| ender_33 | you're not required to register a software patent for your idea | Jun 01 22:12 |
| MinceR | i'll just choose to ignore software patents and sell my new mpeg encoder in the usa | Jun 01 22:12 |
| MinceR | wow, a lawsuit | Jun 01 22:12 |
| MinceR | who expected that? | Jun 01 22:12 |
| ender_33 | your missing my point | Jun 01 22:12 |
| MinceR | no, you're missing my point | Jun 01 22:12 |
| GoForbes28 | Unlimited copyright is sequitor to no public domain | Jun 01 22:12 |
| ender_33 | your point is missing mine | Jun 01 22:12 |
| ender_33 | nobody is forcing you to write closed code | Jun 01 22:12 |
| schestowitz | blank punct | Jun 01 22:12 |
| GoForbes28 | Ender Versus the World | Jun 01 22:13 |
| ender_33 | yet you want to force people to write open code | Jun 01 22:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] What's new with #GENIVI and #meego? Check out this MeeGo community blog for the latest: http://bit.ly/iPvnm6 #linux | Jun 01 22:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ehhhh..... If the Portal 2 Soundtrack has no copyright info anywhere, can I assume it's PD? | Jun 01 22:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh I don't know that it would be. But I am curious. What I do know is that the current system is very bad for creativity & thus culture | Jun 01 22:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MeeGo and GENIVI are on a roll | MeeGo .::. Size~: 21.81 KB | Jun 01 22:13 |
| ender_33 | it should be a choice | Jun 01 22:13 |
| MinceR | there's also all that bullshit going around starting with "Linux is a cancer" | Jun 01 22:13 |
| ender_33 | not a forced obligation from marxists | Jun 01 22:13 |
| MinceR | well, it's a choice | Jun 01 22:13 |
| ender_33 | its not a choice if you kill copyright | Jun 01 22:13 |
| MinceR | and it has been made by others for everyone in many states already | Jun 01 22:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it is | Jun 01 22:13 |
| ender_33 | everything becomes open | Jun 01 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Cancer of the heart :-) | Jun 01 22:13 |
| MinceR | until the law is changed | Jun 01 22:13 |
| schestowitz | It spreads | Jun 01 22:13 |
| schestowitz | !google linus torvalds linux cancer spreads | Jun 01 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Humorix | Class-Action Lawsuit Filed Against Linus Torvalds | http://humorix.org/10352 | Jun 01 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Linus Pauling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling | Jun 01 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Linus Torvalds, Geek of the Week | http://www.simple-talk.com/opinion/geek-of-the-week/linus-torvalds,-geek-of-the-week/ | Jun 01 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Softpanorama "Linux Sucks" Humor Collection | http://www.softpanorama.org/Bulletin/Humor/linux_sucks.shtml | Jun 01 22:14 |
| ender_33 | anyways this wont happen | Jun 01 22:14 |
| MinceR | you try to implement an idea and find out that it's already owned by some megacorp in most of the planet | Jun 01 22:14 |
| GoForbes28 | ender_33: You know, sometimes you remind me of the movie Mississippi Burning, where are the white people who helped black slaves were called "Jews" | Jun 01 22:14 |
| ender_33 | killing copyright would kill jobs | Jun 01 22:14 |
| MinceR | now choose | Jun 01 22:14 |
| GoForbes28 | ender_33: Basically when you use the term marxist casually | Jun 01 22:14 |
| GoForbes28 | to describe us | Jun 01 22:14 |
| MinceR | no, that's not why it won't happen | Jun 01 22:14 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: you can't kill jobs | Jun 01 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Jobs are lifeless | Jun 01 22:14 |
| ender_33 | abolition of private property IS marxism | Jun 01 22:14 |
| MinceR | it won't happen because the companies controlling most of the governments on earth don't want it to happen | Jun 01 22:14 |
| ender_33 | its in the fucking manifesto | Jun 01 22:14 |
| ender_33 | READ | Jun 01 22:14 |
| GoForbes28 | ender_33: Breaking windows creates jobs | Jun 01 22:14 |
| schestowitz | People's occupation adapts based on needs | Jun 01 22:14 |
| MinceR | you can't abolish "property" that doesn't EXIST in the first place | Jun 01 22:14 |
| MinceR | THINK | Jun 01 22:14 |
| schestowitz | I say, 'kill' (your term) jobs like patent 'solicitors', PR people, etc. | Jun 01 22:15 |
| schestowitz | It would improve soiciety | Jun 01 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Make singers out of them | Jun 01 22:15 |
| ender_33 | BAH! | Jun 01 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Let them become contributing members of society | Jun 01 22:15 |
| GoForbes28 | ender_33: Copyright is not property, patents are not property, trademarks are not property | Jun 01 22:15 |
| ender_33 | says a marxist | Jun 01 22:15 |
| schestowitz | It's their 'right' not to be thorns | Jun 01 22:15 |
| *ender_33 has quit (Quit: leaving) | Jun 01 22:15 | |
| GoForbes28 | because they don't exist | Jun 01 22:15 |
| MinceR | also, if you buy proprietary software, you won't own it, it's not your _property_ even in a legal sense | Jun 01 22:15 |
| MinceR | ooh, truth must have hurt him | Jun 01 22:15 |
| schestowitz | enthymeme: watch the Linus Pauling interview | Jun 01 22:15 |
| GoForbes28 | ender_33: Paypal money is not property either | Jun 01 22:15 |
| schestowitz | [22:14] <ender_33> abolition of private property IS marxism | Jun 01 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Knowlede is not propery | Jun 01 22:16 |
| schestowitz | It's a state of the brain | Jun 01 22:16 |
| MinceR | to him, numbers can be owned | Jun 01 22:16 |
| schestowitz | hard-drive is a property | Jun 01 22:16 |
| GoForbes28 | I do agree with him that copyright can exist | Jun 01 22:16 |
| schestowitz | it takes labour and material tp put all the atoms together | Jun 01 22:16 |
| GoForbes28 | Simply lowering the term would improve the current situation a lot | Jun 01 22:17 |
| MinceR | it obviously can exist, as it does now | Jun 01 22:17 |
| GoForbes28 | Minimalist copyright law, less it more | Jun 01 22:17 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: !google sony dvd leaked | Jun 01 22:17 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if it's a good idea to retain it forever, though | Jun 01 22:17 |
| schestowitz | !google sony dvd leaked | Jun 01 22:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - YouTube - The Illusionist (Sony) Part 1 of 8 Leaked Full Movie | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DyMUaFu_WY1o | Jun 01 22:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Beyonce I Am World Tour Mic And A Light Documentary Leaked From Dvd! | http://wn.com/Beyonce_I_Am__World_Tour_Mic_and_a_Light_Documentary_Leaked_from_DVD!_Part_Two_HQ_HD | Jun 01 22:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Leaked Test Footage for Sony Bloggie Viral Advertisement - Video | http://www.metacafe.com/watch/6276726/leaked_test_footage_for_sony_bloggie_viral_advertisement/ | Jun 01 22:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Leaked: Sony's Letter to Publishers About PlayStation Hack ... | http://www.ecoustics.com/pcmag/news/2385339 | Jun 01 22:17 |
| MinceR | after all it would require governments in order to uphold | Jun 01 22:17 |
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| GoForbes28 | MinceR: copyright should never be retained forever | Jun 01 22:17 |
| GoForbes28 | That is even a violation of the American constitution | Jun 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | and governments are continually hard at work to prove that their existence causes more harm than good | Jun 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | GoForbes28: i mean at some point human civilization should transcend the need for copyright at all | Jun 01 22:18 |
| schestowitz | governmenrs don't exist naturally | Jun 01 22:18 |
| MinceR | just like the need for law and governments | Jun 01 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Appointed usually by people, these days reinforced by biz | Jun 01 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Remember who made the US of Advertising | Jun 01 22:18 |
| GoForbes28 | MinceR: When we live in a Star Trek utopian society, you tell me | Jun 01 22:18 |
| schestowitz | The rich Brits | Jun 01 22:18 |
| schestowitz | The slave owners of their days | Jun 01 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Not the public | Jun 01 22:19 |
| schestowitz | People who could fund their own new army | Jun 01 22:19 |
| schestowitz | And wage way against the British | Jun 01 22:19 |
| schestowitz | So that same government is still in place | Jun 01 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Came from rich charlatans, never changed much | Jun 01 22:19 |
| GoForbes28 | hi thistleweb | Jun 01 22:19 |
| GoForbes28 | how's Xubuntu? | Jun 01 22:19 |
| schestowitz | I think copyright expired on http://tinyogg.com/files/5DDmm.ogv | Jun 01 22:20 |
| enthymeme | schestowitz: which Linus Pauling interview? | Jun 01 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/ogg type | Jun 01 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Benny Goodman Orchestra Sing Sing Sing from Hollywood Hotel | Jun 01 22:21 |
| schestowitz | I'll use it in daily links | Jun 01 22:21 |
| ThistleWeb | hey | Jun 01 22:21 |
| schestowitz | enthymeme: conversations in history with henry Chrysler IIRC | Jun 01 22:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @crosbie If #copyright abolition would make corporations reliant upon the proprietary model even wealthier, then why aren't they payi ... | Jun 01 22:21 | |
| schestowitz | Very good talk, also givs a POV on history and the cold war | Jun 01 22:21 |
| enthymeme | schestowitz: thanks, searching... | Jun 01 22:21 |
| schestowitz | !google linus pauling conversations in history with henry Chrysler IIRC | Jun 01 22:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | No Google results | Jun 01 22:21 |
| schestowitz | !google linus pauling conversations in history youtube | Jun 01 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - YouTube - Conversations with History: Linus Pauling | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DWHzG3nTA27M | Jun 01 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - YouTube - "conversations with history" | http://www.youtube.com/edu%3Faction_search%3D1%26edu_search_query%3D%2522conversations%2Bwith%2Bhistory%2522%26page%3D2 | Jun 01 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - YouTube - Nature of the Universe / Conferencia de Linus Pauling | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D-TVepLmDL-U | Jun 01 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Conversations with History: The Peace Movement in Historical ... | http://www.uctv.tv/search-details.aspx%3FshowID%3D9165 | Jun 01 22:22 |
| enthymeme | Conversations with history | Jun 01 22:22 |
| enthymeme | yeah I found it ;3 | Jun 01 22:22 |
| schestowitz | maybe it was harry c | Jun 01 22:22 |
| *enthymeme is currently at work, but it's added to his youtube queue | Jun 01 22:22 | |
| schestowitz | not henry | Jun 01 22:22 |
| schestowitz | he looked like some hippie back then, still lacks tact to this date | Jun 01 22:22 |
| schestowitz | I watched that interview twice, it's very enlightening | Jun 01 22:23 |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: How I view 2001 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybbMnXqA0y4&feature=channel_video_title | Jun 01 22:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Phonics for Kids 101, Volume #1 (VHS) .::. Size~: 102.13 KB | Jun 01 22:23 |
| GoForbes28 | ThistleWeb: are you still using Xubuntu? | Jun 01 22:24 |
| ThistleWeb | no | Jun 01 22:24 |
| GoForbes28 | ThistleWeb: What your new distro of the now? | Jun 01 22:26 |
| ThistleWeb | I've set up crunchbang as the default netbook distro | Jun 01 22:27 |
| GoForbes28 | with Debian testing repos? | Jun 01 22:27 |
| GoForbes28 | and XFCE? | Jun 01 22:27 |
| GoForbes28 | or just the default configs? | Jun 01 22:28 |
| ThistleWeb | default | Jun 01 22:29 |
| ThistleWeb | I tried it before switching to testing and kept getting errors about firmware packages in the repos every time I used apt | Jun 01 22:30 |
| GoForbes28 | oops | Jun 01 22:33 |
| GoForbes28 | I think it may because of the different kernels or something | Jun 01 22:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Thistleweb: Too bad | Jun 01 22:33 |
| GoForbes28 | I suppose you could always do a crunchbang style config though | Jun 01 22:34 |
| GoForbes28 | I see no way of a rolling release setup | Jun 01 22:34 |
| ThistleWeb | for how I use the netbook it's fine | Jun 01 22:34 |
| GoForbes28 | that's good :) | Jun 01 22:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @thp4 My #MeeGoConf video with mostly Exploratorium party and Hacker Lounge stuff is now online: http://youtu.be/Cr4xQ-bqbto Enjoy :) #SF | Jun 01 22:34 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Was Xubuntu still buggy, or is there another reason you stopped using it? | Jun 01 22:35 |
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| GoForbes28 | ThistleWeb? | Jun 01 22:38 |
| ThistleWeb | it was fine | Jun 01 22:38 |
| GoForbes28 | Thistleweb: Ok, then what provided the incentive to switch again? | Jun 01 22:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Editing audio and having #Minecraft on the second screen smelting glass. A chicken just looked at me which freaked me out! Oo | Jun 01 22:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] What happens in Japan, stays in...RT @gregkh: official Linux 3.0 whisky given to Linus 2day and finished... http://bit.ly/jycciy | Jun 01 22:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Catholic doctors want to "cure" homosexuality -- with homeopathy http://ur1.ca/4bpbe (DE) You can't make this stuff up. #fail | Jun 01 22:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What I see every time I watch America's Got Talent... [animated] http://imgur.com/DwkYt | Jun 01 22:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Umstrittene "Therapie": Katholische Ärzte wollen Homosexuelle mit Homöopathie kurieren - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Wissenschaft .::. Size~: 60.57 KB | Jun 01 22:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Nokia shares recover after #Microsoft sale rumours http://is.gd/9XK9kX #Microsoft portrayed as shining knights after killing from inside? | Jun 01 22:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Nokia were on life support before dealing with #Microsoft, now that decision has left them begging Dr Microsoft to pull the plug | Jun 01 22:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh I'm not saying !CC doesn't work, I think it does, and very well. But it is a work-around, not a solution. | Jun 01 22:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh What !cc may end up doing more effectively than !copyright is killing the !public domain, which I believe would be tragic. | Jun 01 22:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Exposed: #EU chief's private jet, plush hotel and cocktail bill http://is.gd/yGogPZ | Jun 01 22:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Exposed: EU chief's private jet, plush hotel and cocktail bill | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 128.54 KB | Jun 01 22:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] *and end up | Jun 01 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh The way to find a solution is by examining, discussing, exchanging points of view; copyright was initially imposed by monarchy... | Jun 01 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Pinguine bei Jauch! PINGUINE! CUTE!!!!!! | Jun 01 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I want a pet penguin! :D | Jun 01 22:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh ... and it directly impacts on human culture. I think it is something that needs to be looked at and worked out by humans... | Jun 01 22:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh ...no solution should be imposed on human culture by governments or special interest corporations | Jun 01 22:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Butter. Bei die Fische. Junge! | Jun 01 22:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Last night I watched the documentary about the restoration of Fritz Lang's Metropolis, an incredibly important bit of human culture | Jun 01 22:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Metropolis was butchered, and nearly lost. | Jun 01 22:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How 'sex scandal' is sexual harassment http://is.gd/feQcT6 | Jun 01 22:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How 'sex scandal' is sexual harassment | Amanda Marcotte | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 243.18 KB | Jun 01 22:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UK training Saudi forces used to crush Arab spring http://is.gd/kjwC0F tax money at work? | Jun 01 22:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] All talk, no answers. But big in criticising things. *yawn* Back to #Minecraft, this is boring me. | Jun 01 22:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Excuse me, how am I criticising you? Our conversation began when I challenged your criticism of @crosbie. | Jun 01 22:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UK training Saudi forces used to crush Arab spring | World news | The Observer .::. Size~: 271.55 KB | Jun 01 22:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh I am a member of humanity; human culture is important to me. | Jun 01 22:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 1/6/2011: GNU’s Proportion Measured in GNU/Linux, Mageia 1 is Released http://is.gd/aOjxdN #techrights | Jun 01 22:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Once again, I was minding my own business and you introduced yourself into a conversation, initially appeared willing to be civilized | Jun 01 22:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 1/6/2011: GNU’s Proportion Measured in GNU/Linux, Mageia 1 is Released | Techrights .::. Size~: 140.37 KB | Jun 01 22:59 |
| MinceR | huh, it's the first of june already | Jun 01 23:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] MISTER PRESIDENT! WE'RE GETTING CLOBBERED BY THESE EVIL COPYRIGHT CORPORATIONS!!! WE NEED TO STRIKE FIRST! | Jun 01 23:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I wonder what OS @crosbie is using. I have this nagging suspicion it was made in Cupertino..... | Jun 01 23:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh Most lawyers don't understand !GPL, including some of those who purport to have expertise in it. @rms has fairly good understanding | Jun 01 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fucking chicken put an egg on my hotbar. Oo | Jun 01 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Watching all the people hurt by the emergence of The Document Foundation now claiming to be the true leaders and laughing in glee. | Jun 01 23:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana I hope he does. He wrote it! :D | Jun 01 23:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana Watching very carefully to document a mode of failure. | Jun 01 23:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 1/6/2011: GNU’s Proportion Measured in GNU/Linux, Mageia 1 is Released http://is.gd/aOjxdN !techrights | Jun 01 23:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Before one can fix a broken system, it is necessary to identify how it is broken. The exchange of ideas is part of the process. | Jun 01 23:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh I'm wishy washy because I believe human beings are capable of amazing things; dictatorship is something to which I will never aspire. | Jun 01 23:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gods. I need another Nukie. | Jun 01 23:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @webmink: Watching with concern as IBM and Oracle between them try to shut down LibreOffice with help from Apache. | Jun 01 23:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I can't stop saying "clobbered". :D | Jun 01 23:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Second Nukie going down! | Jun 01 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fabsh Really? Your concerns do not seem to parallel mine. | Jun 01 23:31 | |
| schestowitz | http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/06/01/176207/Oracle-To-Give-OpenOfficeorg-To-Apache-Incubator?utm_source=rss1.0&utm_medium=feed | Jun 01 23:33 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] 30 Days With...Ubuntu Linux http://bit.ly/knkdqH This should be interesting. | Jun 01 23:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 30 Days With...Ubuntu Linux | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 83.09 KB | Jun 01 23:33 |
| schestowitz | How's that for summary? | Jun 01 23:33 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/palmerv0r/status/76045166615605249 | Jun 01 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @palmerv0r: @schestowitz 3.0.1 should be the first stable patch. Bet that will be sooner than one shake of a make mrproper! | Jun 01 23:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ♻ @TWCBreaking: #Tornado reported in Westfield, MA moving east. TAKE COVER in north Springfield, Chicopee areas! http://wxch.nl/m3MzbL | Jun 01 23:38 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Jun 01 23:41 |
| schestowitz | ..with the wind | Jun 01 23:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 01 23:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] That storm punched the collective face of everyone living east of the great divide. Impressive. | Jun 01 23:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] For your viewing pleasure, [[Category:cats in containers]] http://ur1.ca/4bpl8 #caturday | Jun 01 23:46 | |
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| MinceR | vector<Cat> | Jun 01 23:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Tornados in NY? Stay safe, people! | Jun 01 23:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Oracle pushing Apache against TDF ??? What a bad move, trying to weaken a nice open source project. I sincerely hope Open Office dies fast | Jun 01 23:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] oh @coyo I hit a weird coincidence yesterday. The radio played 2 songs from this place will grow right after eachother :D | Jun 01 23:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh but it requires being a politician to be very obtuse and confuse innovation with patents. Just today I witnesses it three PT parties. | Jun 01 23:59 | |
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