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twitternew trouble from the DoJ for Wikileaks http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/06/wikileaks-twitter/Jun 06 00:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Feds: WikiLeaks Associates Have ‘No Right’ To Know About Demands For Their Records | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 66.02 KBJun 06 00:01
twitteriPlanetJun 06 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Utilizar Software livre / Manutenção assegurada por centros ligados a Universidades Técnicas"http://ur1.ca/4cq36 ; Não se esqueça Sr PM PPCJun 06 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to Pete and Dudley on their journey to rathole radio.Jun 06 00:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: cortar despesas.pdf - Google Docs .::. Size~: 34.54 KBJun 06 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] 3 weeks to FISLJun 06 00:06
twitter->  " Thursday’s 20-page filing by the Justice Department was in response to an ACLU motion filed last month, which asks U.S. District Court Judge Liam O’Grady to make public four additional court dockets that the ACLU believes are 2703(d) orders directed to additional internet companies.  Without confirming that other records demands have been filed, prosecutor MacBride argued that there is no legal basis to make any information on oJun 06 00:07
twitterSlime thinks, "how dare anyone but US DoJ pressure anyone"Jun 06 00:07
twitter"lie to the peasants so that it is easier to ignore them."Jun 06 00:08
twitterWhere's there "nothing to hide line" now?Jun 06 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks & The Scotsman: The Megrahi cables http://alturl.com/hf8wfJun 06 00:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks: Inside story of Megrahi's return home http://bit.ly/j7tZK3Jun 06 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @olewin: Why Sarkozy was wrong. Need for freedom of the internet explained by @lessig in 10 minutes #eG8 http://bit.ly/lsqseN #intern ...Jun 06 00:20
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Globaler Wandel: @Lessig at the #eG8 - Why Sarkozy was wrong.... .::. Size~: 118 KBJun 06 00:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @marcelobranco: Eduardo Galeano p acampados de Barcelona (2) "Eles não crêem na democracia q oferecem a eles. manipulada" ur1.ca/4cpuxJun 06 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @bkuhn: Hmm,maybe IBM'ers aren't expert political operatives. Rob Weir was pointlessly rude to me in blog responses. http://ur1.ca/4cpwzJun 06 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @bkuhn: politically, I won. His rudeness gives evidence that he knows he was quoting FSF out of context.Jun 06 00:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Invitation to Apache OpenOffice .::. Size~: 165.45 KBJun 06 00:55
ender2070_Goblin - what do you meanJun 06 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @dangar4l Sex without love is all this insanity will work out the use of the wretched increíble que solo me quedo dormido... A ...Jun 06 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] !dfn Hirsuite: interj. The standard phonetic rendering of a sneeze.Jun 06 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The US version of Ms Tin Pei Ling, reintroducing Ms Sarah Palin - http://ur1.ca/4cr1d #sgpoliticsJun 06 01:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sarah Palin – “Paul Revere Warned…The British?” - Rick Ungar - The Policy Page - Forbes .::. Size~: 497.85 KBJun 06 01:29
_goblinender2070: Mageia will be off my system very shortly....Jun 06 01:33
_goblinender2070: Ive written an article which should be ready shortly.Jun 06 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Mosquitos are something else. The thing I miss most about smoking is the mosquito protection clouds of smoke used to provide. Going in now.Jun 06 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So, Ive run with Mageia....whats my verdict.... review to follow, possibly tomorrow now...Jun 06 01:37
sebsebseb_goblin: hmmJun 06 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 5/6/2011: More GNU/Linux Preinstalls, New Stable Linux Kernel http://is.gd/lr335i !techrightsJun 06 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 5/6/2011: More GNU/Linux Preinstalls, New Stable Linux Kernel http://is.gd/lr335i #techrightsJun 06 01:42
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_goblinsebsebseb: yep, not impressed at all....Jun 06 01:44
_goblinsebsebseb: as a piece of work/effort its great and the devs should be thanked for the time they have dedicated to the project.....as a competitor for today's user?  I don't think so.Jun 06 01:45
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Shadowwwhttp://iite.unesco.org/news/387945/Jun 06 01:51
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Diablo-D3jesus christ whatJun 06 01:57
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sebsebsebOk so spam has stopped now?Jun 06 02:11
cubezzzok TechrightsBot on ignoreJun 06 02:12
sebsebsebwhat the spammer is talking to us now?Jun 06 02:16
sebsebsebor that's part of the script as wellJun 06 02:16
Diablo-D3people use kedit? lolfailJun 06 02:19
Diablo-D3vim foreverJun 06 02:19
abeNd-orgso.. on the efnet there are channel opsJun 06 02:25
abeNd-orgno such thing here on freenode?Jun 06 02:25
sebsebsebabeNd-org: Roy has this set up wrongJun 06 02:26
sebsebsebabeNd-org: schestowitz  is only opJun 06 02:26
cubezzzhe often ops someone just before he leavesJun 06 02:26
abeNd-orglolJun 06 02:26
sebsebsebcubezzz: abeNd-org He should add to the access list of the channel, not this temory op sillynessJun 06 02:26
cubezzzoh wellJun 06 02:27
sebsebsebcubezzz: abeNd-org  Apprently Freenode staff aren't even on the listJun 06 02:27
abeNd-orgthis should make for an amusing daily logJun 06 02:27
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cubezzzmaybe tessier can op himselfJun 06 02:27
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sebsebsebtessier: havey ou still got op access here I guess not?Jun 06 02:28
sebsebsebtessier: apparnatly schestowitz is the only one on the access list, not even Freenode staff, and so in that case, this realy is set up wrongJun 06 02:28
tessierI'm checking...Jun 06 02:28
abeNd-orgyou wont like techrightbot-tr when hes angry!Jun 06 02:29
sebsebsebtessier: ender2070 cubezzz abeNd-org  plus now it's spamming #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-socialJun 06 02:29
cubezzzyeah I knowJun 06 02:30
cubezzzxchat started beepingJun 06 02:30
sebsebsebcubezzz: abeNd-org  schestowitz is going to have fun when he wakes up? :DJun 06 02:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How Western companies sold Mubarak all he need to crush Egyptian activists http://is.gd/MQ5jGZJun 06 02:30
cubezzzwell it won't be in my logsJun 06 02:31
sebsebsebcubezzz: oh?Jun 06 02:31
tessierIt is unusual for schestowitz to be away for so long.Jun 06 02:31
cubezzzit's been kind of quiet latelyJun 06 02:32
sebsebsebtessier: you have been op here before, at least tempory I am rpetty sure of it, and no  it's not unusaul for him to be away for so long right now, since he went to bedJun 06 02:32
cubezzzsebsebseb, I'll ignore the bot and edit out the junkJun 06 02:33
ChrisTX4nice multiplicator attack thoJun 06 02:38
sebsebsebChrisTX4: Diablo-D3 Now I got them on ignore on this channelJun 06 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Kudos to sbstransit bus captain of service 97 (sbs5122a) for noticing me running for the bus and waiting for me. Thanks.Jun 06 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @rms Reward for Destroying Software Patent http://ur1.ca/4crd2Jun 06 02:40
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cubezzzok log fixedJun 06 02:47
cubezzz308840,$ g/TechRightsBot-tr/dJun 06 02:47
sebsebsebcubezzz: what you deleted  the junk out of it?Jun 06 02:48
cubezzzyupJun 06 02:48
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cubezzzhehJun 06 02:50
cubezzzoh well, so much for tonight's excitementJun 06 02:52
tessierNow back to your regularly scheduled boredom...Jun 06 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] have you seen the new look http://linux.conf.au ? we think it's time to have a look, sign up &have a browse to see a sneak peek of #lca2012Jun 06 02:54
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sebsebsebtessier: yeah it's over now I think, but it seems ChrisTX4 was invovled as wellJun 06 02:58
tessierWhen schestowitz gets back we can talk to him about adding some of us to the access list.Jun 06 02:58
sebsebsebtessier: I talked to Chris here,  and  was like  our other two channels not being spammed yet, and then it joins there as well,  and starts spamming soon after,  plus he started linking to stuffJun 06 02:59
sebsebsebso yep I guess there was two of themJun 06 02:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @x11r5 @sdanna I seriously need to bike to work with fedoraJun 06 03:04
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Mad7ScientistManipulating the link bot is funJun 06 03:04
Mad7Scientistso what's been going onJun 06 03:04
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sebsebsebMad7Scientist: I think you know what's been going onJun 06 03:07
ender_33no he doesntJun 06 03:09
ender_33hes not one of themJun 06 03:09
ender_33hes from ##conspiracyJun 06 03:09
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sebsebsebender_33: Why did he start saying Manipulating the link bot is fun?Jun 06 03:15
msb_Was this an attack or did the bot just go blooey by itself?Jun 06 03:23
ender_33it was an attackJun 06 03:24
ender_33[21:25] <Shadowww> nah we dont use linuxJun 06 03:24
ender_33[21:25] <Shadowww> dont worry about thatJun 06 03:24
ender_33[21:25] <Shadowww> cause if I'd use linux, I wouldn't have #1 place on speedtest.netJun 06 03:24
ender_33[21:25] <Shadowww> BSD's TCP/IP stack (which Microsoft stole) is very superior to lunix's shitty oneJun 06 03:25
ender_33[21:25] <Shadowww> particularly cause linux has horrible licensing compared to BSDJun 06 03:25
ender_33someone forgot to tell him Microsoft took it outJun 06 03:25
johnsonlolwhat do you mean?Jun 06 03:25
ender_33oh this must be ChrisJun 06 03:26
johnsonlolmight beJun 06 03:26
johnsonlolsoJun 06 03:26
ender_33yeah it is himJun 06 03:26
ender_33same shitty C# floeJun 06 03:27
johnsonlolsorry bout my C#Jun 06 03:27
sebsebsebender_33: yep it's him the spammerJun 06 03:27
johnsonlolme?Jun 06 03:27
johnsonlolwatJun 06 03:27
ender_33though chris isn't as smart as the real spammerJun 06 03:27
sebsebsebor if not the spammer itself someone invovlded with itJun 06 03:27
johnsonlolshadowww spammed and got klinedJun 06 03:27
ender_33he was posting links which didnt workJun 06 03:27
ender_33now hes here to spy on the reactionJun 06 03:27
sebsebsebjohnsonlol: you linked to stuff as wellJun 06 03:28
johnsonlolno, I just wanted to see what this bot does with javascript etcJun 06 03:28
johnsonlolI haven't spammedJun 06 03:28
sebsebsebender_33: yep seems like itJun 06 03:28
johnsonlolonly posted it multiple times to see it between the spamJun 06 03:28
ender_33johnsonlol - shadowww can check the daily irc logsJun 06 03:28
sebsebsebjohnsonlol: also soon after I told you about the other two channels, shadow joinedJun 06 03:29
sebsebsebvery soon in factJun 06 03:29
ender_33sebsebseb - shadowww said chris was there to watchJun 06 03:29
sebsebsebender_33: yep I saw that as wellJun 06 03:29
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johnsonlolbig sherlocks you guys areJun 06 03:30
sebsebseboh jono missed the spamJun 06 03:30
sebsebsebwe got majorly spammed here just now jono and this johnsonlol person is invovledJun 06 03:30
johnsonlolwatJun 06 03:30
sebsebsebother two channels as wellJun 06 03:30
johnsonlolthe funny thing isJun 06 03:31
johnsonlol3 months ago shadowww did that already using the exact same bugJun 06 03:32
johnsonlolin fact he's still on the banlist here under another hostJun 06 03:32
sebsebsebjohnsonlol: Why spamming this channel anyway, by the way?Jun 06 03:33
johnsonloloh wellJun 06 03:34
johnsonlolfor the lulz I guess?Jun 06 03:34
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GoForbes28hi allJun 06 03:35
johnsonloleven better, may I make a guess.. the bots all 3 timed out, right?Jun 06 03:35
sebsebsebif you don't like the Techrights blog don't read it,  I don't read most of the stuff on there by the way, beause there are other Linux aritcles else wehre that I would rather readJun 06 03:35
sebsebsebGoForbes28: hi we just got majorly spammed in all three channels and this johnsonlol is invovledJun 06 03:35
johnsonlol2nd person whom you tell thatJun 06 03:35
sebsebsebjohnsonlol: so?Jun 06 03:35
msb_The MS sociopath agents in COLA will crow about it and claim that it was a failure of Linux.Jun 06 03:36
GoForbes28Rusty|AFK: Who are you exactly?  Do you have a blog or website?  An Identi?  If so, I'll add youJun 06 03:36
GoForbes28msb_ The spamming?Jun 06 03:36
msb_Yes.Jun 06 03:36
johnsonloltbh it's a failure of RoyJun 06 03:36
johnsonlolbecause uhmJun 06 03:36
sebsebsebjohnsonlol: so anyway as I was saying, if you don't like the Techrights blog don't read it,  if you don't like the channels for it,  don't come to them,  surely you have better things to do in life, than stuff like this?Jun 06 03:37
johnsonlolI can imagine why the bots timed outJun 06 03:37
sebsebsebjohnsonlol: I meant spamming IRC channelsJun 06 03:37
GoForbes28"johnsonlol is ~Chris@dslb-084-063-103-058.pools.arcor-ip.net"Jun 06 03:37
GoForbes28google timeJun 06 03:37
johnsonlolgoogle for what?Jun 06 03:38
GoForbes28http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Bv3pMA2ujYYJ:www.nk.ca/blog/index.php%3F/categories/35-Arcor-IPnet-spam+pools.arcor-ip.net&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=opera&source=www.google.caJun 06 03:38
GoForbes28"More arcor-ip.net spam"Jun 06 03:38
johnsonlolwatJun 06 03:38
sebsebsebjohnsonlol: also I tend to personally avoide reading most of the stuff online that I am not really interested in for example,  I am talking about certain Linux news here as well,  or comments on sites, and suchJun 06 03:38
johnsonlolarcor-ip.net = Arcor AG's pool domainJun 06 03:38
GoForbes28also a source of spam it seemsJun 06 03:39
johnsonlolgoogle comcast + spamJun 06 03:39
johnsonlolor OVH + spamJun 06 03:39
johnsonlolsame results...Jun 06 03:39
sebsebsebjohnsonlol: and if you think that everyone here agree's with everything Roy puts on the blog, or most people,  well your completly wrongJun 06 03:39
sebsebseb,but it's his blog really, and so he expresses his opinion on it, just like many other blog exist for other people to express theirsJun 06 03:40
sebsebsebjohnsonlol: ,but yes he writes blog posts sometimes, that will get at certian people a bit,  but that doesn't justify spamming the IRC channelsJun 06 03:41
sebsebsebGoForbes28: Rusty|AFK has a Youtube channel and has been on TechbytesJun 06 03:44
GoForbes28I knew the Techbytes partJun 06 03:44
GoForbes28Hence I wanted to know his backgroundJun 06 03:45
ender_33msb_ funny you mention microsoft agentsJun 06 03:46
msb_ender_33: I read COLA.Jun 06 03:46
msb_And sometimes post there.Jun 06 03:46
ender_33can you prove they are agents?Jun 06 03:46
ender_33I was going to talk to you about thatJun 06 03:46
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msb_ender_33: Two hypotheses: 1. They are just random idiots who have been spamming COLA for ten years with hundreds of thousands of posts, all pro-Microsoft, and nobody is paying them to do it.Jun 06 03:47
msb_2. They are paid by Microsoft.Jun 06 03:48
GoForbes28bet soJun 06 03:48
msb_ender_33: Which hypothesis is more likely to be true?Jun 06 03:48
GoForbes28a google search didn't reveal anythingJun 06 03:48
GoForbes28only that the domain service is sweedishJun 06 03:48
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ender_33people with an axe to grind?Jun 06 03:49
ender_33we're not agents of the FSFJun 06 03:49
GoForbes28At any rate, discussing them is giving them too much creditJun 06 03:49
ender_33you might say that roy's postings qualify as making him an agentJun 06 03:49
msb_ender_33: Which hypothesis is more likely to be true?Jun 06 03:50
ender_33them being random idiotsJun 06 03:50
GoForbes28yeahJun 06 03:50
GoForbes28more likelyJun 06 03:50
msb_Ten  years, hundreds of thousands of posts, all pro-Microsoft and anti-Linux.Jun 06 03:50
GoForbes28I don't see the return in paying themJun 06 03:50
GoForbes28msb_ huh?Jun 06 03:51
ender_33in Ten years, roy will have hundreds of thousands of posts, all anti-microsoft and pro-linuxJun 06 03:51
ender_33is he an agent?Jun 06 03:51
msb_GoForbes28: It's a lot of work.  They wouldn't do it otherwise.  The benefit to Microsoft is disruption of a forum in which the topic is the advantages of Linux over other operating systems.Jun 06 03:52
ender_33while I have you on the line msb_ - there are things you've said all over the net that made me think you were an agentJun 06 03:52
GoForbes28Everyone is an agentJun 06 03:53
ender_33including your nameJun 06 03:53
GoForbes28msb_ I meant what posts are you referring to?Jun 06 03:53
GoForbes28ender_33 my name?Jun 06 03:53
ender_33nah msb'sJun 06 03:53
ender_33most significant bit = ONEJun 06 03:54
GoForbes28I thought it meant Magic School BusJun 06 03:54
ender_33magic school bus, interestingJun 06 03:54
ender_33an indoctrinating programJun 06 03:54
msb_GoForbes28: comp.os.linux.advocacy  in Usenet.  The MS posts are impossible to miss, they're about 75% of the content.Jun 06 03:54
tessiercola has been useless for many years. All the good stuff went to LUG mailing lists.Jun 06 03:55
msb_GoForbes28: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/topicsJun 06 03:55
GoForbes28techrights.org is down...Jun 06 03:55
GoForbes28looks like the spammers did more than add to the IRC logsJun 06 03:56
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msb_techrights.org just came up for meJun 06 03:56
cubezzzme tooJun 06 03:57
GoForbes28yep, me tooJun 06 03:57
cubezzzjust nowJun 06 03:57
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GoForbes28looks like Roy's work isn't substandardJun 06 03:57
GoForbes28I bet it would have taken MS hours to do the sameJun 06 03:58
GoForbes28oh my god..Jun 06 03:58
GoForbes28time for a serious cleanupJun 06 03:58
msb_tessier: COLA was very useful when Roy was posting news there.  Even without him a lot of good stuff gets mentioned.Jun 06 03:58
msb_ender_33: Mark Steven Bilk is my actual name.  msb is my initials.  Jun 06 03:59
msb_ender_33: You just wrote: " msb_ - there are things you've said all over the net that made me think you were an agent"Jun 06 04:01
msb_ender_33: What things are you talking about?Jun 06 04:01
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msb_ender_33: Well?  You also said that my website, cosmicpenguin.com, is "pure communism".  When I asked you what your evidence was you pointed out one site that I link to, which has one page which proposes excessively severe restrictions on corporations.Jun 06 04:06
msb_ender_33: That Black-Eyed Peas video you described as being Masonic has only a simple pyramid in common with Freemasonry.  It also has a cube, and so could just as well be described as Borg.Jun 06 04:08
msb_ender_33: Egyptians also have pyramids btw, and much of the video had a desert environment.  But according to you the video was definitely Masonic propaganda.Jun 06 04:10
ender_33egyptians were involved in the same secret societies that exist todayJun 06 04:11
ender_33I was wrong about pure communism, the ideas came from the illuminatiJun 06 04:12
ender_33its pure illuminismJun 06 04:12
msb_ender_33: What is your evidence?Jun 06 04:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @fontana @alisonchaiken agreed about sentiment. i was neutral about gnome3. will try out xfce and lxde, though I think i'll go back to gnomeJun 06 04:12
ender_33Adam WeishauptJun 06 04:12
msb_ender_33: Did he talk to you about my website?Jun 06 04:13
ender_33in reference to communism coming from the illuminatiJun 06 04:13
msb_ender_33: Is he talking to you now?Jun 06 04:13
ender_33he also used to give the same rosey descriptions you do about communismJun 06 04:14
ender_33when discussing the illuminatiJun 06 04:14
ender_33never thought of the borg, but that would fit in with the neanderthallers and the underground computerJun 06 04:15
ender_33assimilating the dna of species and using those advantages for its ownJun 06 04:15
ender_33something it already does with neanderthals and the human speciesJun 06 04:15
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ender_33thanks MarkJun 06 04:16
msb_ender_33: I have said that socialism, not communism, has helped the people of Vietnam, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.  I have do not say that Communism was beneficial in the Soviet Union or its satellite countries, although it was certainly better for Afghanistan than the Moslem crazies that took over thanks to Reagan's arming and financing of the Mujahiddeen?Jun 06 04:16
msb_ender_33: Sorry, that was a statement, not a question.  Hit the wrong key at the end.Jun 06 04:17
ender_33its also socialism which the illuminati was pushingJun 06 04:18
ender_33communism being its inventionJun 06 04:18
ender_33Weishaupt also said it was for the benfit of people world wide than the illuminati establishes Novous Ordo SeclorumJun 06 04:18
ender_33than/that/sJun 06 04:19
ender_33these secret societies go back further than himJun 06 04:20
ender_33so when you stop at western capitalists, I laughJun 06 04:20
ender_33you might not even know you're serving anyone, its likely in your programJun 06 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @fontana agreed on that. looking at gnome 2.x now seems to be like a web1.0-ish style.Jun 06 04:20
ender_33hence, why breaking down your name reveals a lotJun 06 04:21
msb_ender_33: Can you understand that even if the group of powerful people which you designate as the Illuminati are pushing socialism, and intend for it to be totalitarian, that other people may want democratic socialism, or variants like social democracy, for the benefits that they provide, and they have no intention of making it totalitarian, and in fact have been using these systems for decades and they remain democratic?  Jun 06 04:21
ender_33those people will just be handing over the world to those who will use that system to enact Novous Ordo SeclorumJun 06 04:21
ender_33the only true freedom is no government, and having no external authority over youJun 06 04:22
ender_33international banking has to go as wellJun 06 04:22
msb_ender_33: At least spell it right:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_ordo_seclorumJun 06 04:23
ender_33Ad hominemJun 06 04:24
msb_ender_33: The nations that are pushing the world toward a totalitarian NWO are not Vietnam, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.  The nations that are doing that are mainly the U.S., England, and Israel.  They are the ones who perpetrated 9/11 and many other false-flag "terror" attacks, and used those as their pretext for eliminating freedoms for people everywhere.Jun 06 04:25
ender_33the computer -> neanderthals -> secret societies -> religion -> corporations -> government -> youJun 06 04:26
ender_33that's the chain of command imoJun 06 04:26
ender_33the people in Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela will have their happy lives until the rest of the world is under socialismJun 06 04:27
msb_ender_33: You just wrote: "hence, why breaking down your name reveals a lot".  My parents gave me that name 65 years ago.  Do you think they are/were illuminati agents too?Jun 06 04:27
ender_33msb_ they were also programmed, and would have chosen a name with or without knowing about being part of thisJun 06 04:28
ender_33the program decided the name they choseJun 06 04:28
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msb_ender_33: When you just wrote: "the computer -> neanderthals -> secret societies -> religion -> corporations -> government -> you"  "that's the chain of command imo", what "computer" did you mean that you are claiming started this chain of events?Jun 06 04:30
ender_33but really, you have your mind fixedJun 06 04:30
ender_33you're a closed book, only repeating your opinionsJun 06 04:30
ender_33i've at least looked and read stuff on your siteJun 06 04:31
ender_33the computer?Jun 06 04:31
ender_33i've already told you about thatJun 06 04:31
ender_33you called it a fairy taleJun 06 04:31
msb_ender_33: I don't remember.  Please tell me again.Jun 06 04:31
ender_33http://qubitarkhive.com/2011/05/09/understanding-the-owl/Jun 06 04:32
ender_33a computer of linked saavant neanderthaller brainsJun 06 04:32
ender_33which was implemented in a war to destroy clan motherJun 06 04:33
ender_33it would also be hard to do genetic engineering without a super computerJun 06 04:35
ender_33Goodnight, if you have futher comment you can click clack it to me on your clickity clackity old school keyboard :)Jun 06 04:45
ender_33via emailJun 06 04:45
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msb_ender_33: So you are completely convinced that this description of human history, published less than a month ago and containing no proof whatsoever for the alleged supercomputer or its proficiency in alchemy, astronomy and genetic engineering?Jun 06 04:50
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ender2070you're not looking for the proof, this isn't mcdonaldsJun 06 04:54
ender2070im not offering everything to you on a plateJun 06 04:54
ender2070do some actual research. start from the info provided and see where you get.Jun 06 04:55
ender2070it was also published years ago, I republished with Kealey's permissionJun 06 04:56
msb_ender2070: At a minimum of 10 miles below the Earth's surface for the Moho, how would those people have maintained their habitats under the tremendous temperature and pressure?Jun 06 04:57
ender2070you're wrong, look up what the moho actually is - it'll answer your questionJun 06 04:58
ender2070I really have to go to bed, goodnightJun 06 04:58
msb_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohorovi%C4%8Di%C4%87_discontinuityJun 06 04:59
msb_The Mohorovičić discontinuity is 5 to 10 kilometres (3–6 mi) below the ocean floor and 20 to 90 kilometres (10–60 mi) beneath typical continents, with an average of 35 kilometres (22 mi) beneath them.Jun 06 04:59
ender2070thats wikipediaJun 06 05:00
ender2070do some researchJun 06 05:00
ender2070r noJun 06 05:00
ender2070do some SEARCHJun 06 05:00
ender2070research will give you the wrong answersJun 06 05:00
ender2070RE-SEARCHJun 06 05:00
ender2070goodnightJun 06 05:00
ender2070ps: hint - basaltJun 06 05:01
ender2070pps: email me if you have anything to add, I dont re-read irc historyJun 06 05:03
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GoForbes28msb_ : well, the wiki's clean.  yeah!Jun 06 05:09
GoForbes28I'm tiredJun 06 05:10
GoForbes28good nightJun 06 05:10
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Chips_B_MalroyI have seen the light my Friends!  And am here to spread the word.  Straight from the book.Jun 06 05:20
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.techeye.net/business/ye-booke-of-elop     enjoyJun 06 05:20
Chips_B_Malroyfor it is soJun 06 05:20
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.channelnews.com.au/Communication/Industry/F3U8W9W9Jun 06 05:21
Chips_B_Malroy"Consumers are walking away from Nokia in droves with some analysts now speculating that even Microsoft and their Windows Mobile 7 OS will not save the struggling phone maker."Jun 06 05:22
Chips_B_Malroy"New sales figures revealed this week show Nokia is back to 1997 levels with the company in Australia now moving to buffer criticism by trying to isolate journalists from access to information or company executives."Jun 06 05:22
Chips_B_Malroy"Nokia is hoping that the Windows Phone OS will be their road back to glory despite the fact that consumers and vendors are switch off the Microsoft OS offering in favour of offerings from Google and Apple."Jun 06 05:23
Chips_B_MalroyAnyone wonder just what kind of affect on sales it would have if the CEO stood up and gave a speech to employees and world that everything they had done for the last six years was bad (burning platform) and must be discarded.Jun 06 05:25
Chips_B_MalroyElop should have been fired for that speech.Jun 06 05:25
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.eweek.com/c/a/Windows/Windows-8-Tablet-and-Nokia-Rumors-Dominated-Microsofts-Week-109511/Jun 06 05:27
Chips_B_Malroy"Russian blogger Eldar Murtazin, known for his digging into Nokia?s affairs, tweeted May 31 that: ?One small software company decided last week that they could spent 19 bln USD to buy a part of small phone vendor. That?s it.?"Jun 06 05:27
Chips_B_Malroy?We would continue to avoid the stock as Symbian smartphone sales are falling off faster than expected, and we are skeptical that new Windows Phone (WP) models will be able to replace lost profits,? Stephen Patel, an analyst with Gleacher & Company, wrote in a May 31 research note. ?Our checks suggest mixed carrier support for Nokia?s transition to WP.?Jun 06 05:27
Chips_B_Malroy"Moreover, he voiced worries about Windows Phone?s ability to substitute Symbian?s marketplace role with little attrition: ?We remain concerned that WP industry sales remain below 2mil units/quarter and that [Nokia?s] scale will not be enough to offset a faster-than-expected drop-off in Symbian phone sales.?"Jun 06 05:28
Chips_B_Malroy"Other analysts see the Microsoft-Nokia deal as an outright win for Apple and its iOS ecosystem?particularly if Microsoft purchases all or part of its new partner for the aforementioned $19 billion."Jun 06 05:29
Chips_B_MalroyOr a win for Android.Jun 06 05:29
Chips_B_Malroy?We believe Nokia is a great source of market share opportunity for Apple,? Brian White, an analyst with Ticonderoga Securities, wrote in a June 1 research note. ?Microsoft?s myopic approach outside the PC market is likely to provide more of a drag for Nokia?s mobile phone business and uncertainty for customers, allowing Apple?s iPhone to gain even further market share in the coming quarters, in our view.?Jun 06 05:30
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://seekingalpha.com/article/272193-microsoft-lose-ballmer-and-see-the-30-s-hire-a-gerstner-and-see-the-40-sJun 06 05:31
Chips_B_MalroyMicrosoft: Lose Ballmer and see the $30's; Hire a Gerstner and see the $40'sJun 06 05:31
Chips_B_Malroy"Steve is under attack again, but this time by someone with a bigger soapbox -- namely David Einhorn of Greenlight Capital. David noted that Steve was ?the biggest overhang on the stock.? The sharp rise in Microsoft stock the day after these comments were widely reported suggests that many market players agree; it makes one wonder if the board of Microsoft might be willing to gently bring up the idea with Ballmer."Jun 06 05:32
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.businessinsider.com/reed-hastings-d9-2011-6Jun 06 05:34
Chips_B_MalroyMicrosoft Board Member Reed Hastings Gives A "No Comment" On Whether Steve Ballmer Should Be FiredJun 06 05:35
Chips_B_Malroy"Swisher asked Hastings -- a Microsoft board member -- what he thought of the comments and Ballmer."Jun 06 05:36
Chips_B_Malroy"Hastings avoided the question saying that it would be best for himself and and shareholders if he didn't answer the question and just went with "no comment.""Jun 06 05:37
Chips_B_Malroy"It's not all that weird for him to avoid the question, but we were surprised he didn't throw out a token "Ballmer is doing great" type comment."Jun 06 05:38
Chips_B_MalroyThere are nine people on the MS board, Gates and Ballmer both have a chair, that leaves seven others.Jun 06 05:39
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.techeye.net/business/microsoft-board-member-refuses-to-back-ballmerJun 06 05:40
Chips_B_MalroyMicrosoft board member refuses to back BallmerJun 06 05:40
Chips_B_Malroygreat picture of Fester Ballmer at this linkJun 06 05:40
Chips_B_MalroyWell, sleep on my friends and rest well.Jun 06 05:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @vanden Will childhood memories survive collision with reality? http://www.archive.org/details/HeckleAndJeckleTheater I sure hope so.Jun 06 05:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @faconti: Hoje é @dicasl day :) Feliz aniversário, Rubens!Jun 06 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Did they leave paw prints?Jun 06 06:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Business Secretary Vince Cable... British workers have the right to strike but if you do we will end it (paraphrased) #unions !capitalism.Jun 06 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] and now Rob Wier tries to conflate freedom and power. does he have no shame? comment posted, awaiting moderation http://ur1.ca/4csk4Jun 06 06:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 #Ffs. Good thing it showed up when known. Will be working now - :-) - thanks for your tv so streaming on espn "live" 2 mins lateJun 06 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 #Ffs. Good thing it showed up when known. Will be working now - :-) - thanks for your tv so streaming on espn "live" 2 mins lateJun 06 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] is there an ecfho in here?Jun 06 06:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] or echo...Jun 06 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @laurelrusswurm is there an ecfho in here?Jun 06 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Inconstant Moon serialization post #9... it's a tiny one... almost as short as this... http://ur1.ca/4csn8Jun 06 07:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @kevie ... i must be going ;DJun 06 07:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night !identiverseJun 06 07:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Looks like somebody is building the Colliseum: http://sixgun.org/map/#/691/64/-163/-3 !minersJun 06 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @reality: @psquid head to the nearest ENTRANCE and immediately call YOUR MUTANT FIRE DANCING MOON POSSEJun 06 07:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Cool post from GeekWithLaptop.com http://fb.me/uWQpnSUsJun 06 07:55
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schestowitz<tessier> Now back to your regularly scheduled boredom...Jun 06 07:57
schestowitzThat was the linsu*** a-holesJun 06 07:57
schestowitzThey started just minutes after I had leftJun 06 07:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jukkaeklund: Great piece on #MeeGo in #N900: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/445703/ec074038295f3d0f/. Thanks @stskeeps for pointing that.Jun 06 07:57
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schestowitz<tessier> When schestowitz gets back we can talk to him about adding some of us to the access list.Jun 06 07:58
schestowitzI never knew how to do it, asked less than a week agoJun 06 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: InSync for the N900 - plays music synchronously using web server: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7304 #N900 #MaemoJun 06 07:59
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tessierschestowitz: Just a sec while I look at chanserve help...Jun 06 08:05
tessier /msg ChanServ ACCESS #foo ADD bar OPJun 06 08:06
tessierThat seems to be the formula.Jun 06 08:06
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schestowitzCan you try accessing as Op now?Jun 06 08:08
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tessierYeayJun 06 08:08
schestowitzBTW, sorry about earlier. The Lins*** were lurking in all channels waiting for me to say gnJun 06 08:08
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schestowitzIn another channelJun 06 08:08
tessierNot your fault.Jun 06 08:09
schestowitzas I usually don't announce this, was in a chat elsewhereJun 06 08:09
schestowitzWe also thought about throttling the bot beforeJun 06 08:09
schestowitzAlso, I should have seen that the .NET booster had enteredJun 06 08:09
tessierI've actually had the bot on ignore for quite a while so I didn't notice whatever it was doing. :)Jun 06 08:09
schestowitzAnyway, now we're more secureJun 06 08:09
schestowitzI've added about 5 people in the list. Funny we talked about updating the list just days agoJun 06 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Pro-choice campaigners fight moves to turn back clock on abortion rights http://is.gd/oSToBAJun 06 08:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Amarok Mobile a lightweight version of the amazing Linux music management software is heading to #MeeGo as part of GSoC http://is.gd/WJ3BtpJun 06 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] why does every government seek to redraw constituency boundaries while in office to suit their political aims? http://is.gd/vf8uzwJun 06 08:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the only thing politicians spend time doing is either gaining or keeping power, no wasting time actually doing the job they're elected to doJun 06 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Polka, a different take on Address Book management UI based on Kde librairies is headed to #MeeGo http://is.gd/YzzxUYJun 06 08:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Unfortunately, (...) I'm not talking about, say, China for this list - I'm referring to the USA" ur1.ca/4csyeJun 06 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] something is wrong with me: Touching some #linux kernel code after months actuall feels weird. Seems like I'm too stuck in #gsm world.Jun 06 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ♻ @nightrose: extreme camping... holy s***... http://ur1.ca/4cszsJun 06 08:35
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schestowitzGot a helping hand from someone for the site...Jun 06 08:46
schestowitz> You had wanted me to review some documents last week but I never saw them.  Jun 06 08:46
schestowitz> Did you just get the work done yourself or did I miss something?Jun 06 08:46
schestowitzThanks a lot for the excellent links. I've been trying to mail you something, I'll retry.Jun 06 08:46
schestowitzhi, _goblinJun 06 08:46
_goblinhiJun 06 08:49
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_goblin:)Jun 06 08:49
_goblinhow long did that chap last who spammed the bot?Jun 06 08:50
_goblinI spoke to him in PMJun 06 08:50
_goblinhe was very proud of his "l337" hacking skillsJun 06 08:50
_goblinI'm sure Sony are very frightened.Jun 06 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Big pharma tier pricing based on national boundaries. Philanthropy or forced reaction to global governmental anti racket measures?Jun 06 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 50 – 04/06/11 – “Rusty’s return!” http://is.gd/mqzguU show notes are outJun 06 08:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @b1ackcr0w: Oh noes! I can get #minecraft at work! My career may be over!Jun 06 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm. http://xkcd.com/908/Jun 06 09:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Brad Kuhn: a life devoted to Free Software http://is.gd/RWiLlr new interview with @bkuhnJun 06 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kanotix 2011-05 Hellfire Review http://is.gd/Xjq5PD "quite like Kanotix and its somewhat odd blend of older KDE, access to stable packages"Jun 06 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Back to Back-to-Back #Bach - http://bit.ly/it4Fut the complete organ works for free shows what we're missing (v @timbray) #copyrightJun 06 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Helena The 3rd' - New Indie Action Platformer Game for #GNU #Linux http://is.gd/gGhg9w " The 3rd is a new fun action platformer for Linux"Jun 06 09:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] lets hope I'm not so down tomorrowJun 06 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Upgrade your browser, or we'll kill your documents http://is.gd/V8AxM3 proprietary mindsetsJun 06 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Future is Free - http://bit.ly/ivi80o a free #conference I'll be talking at in Belgium, 22 June: all welcome #opensource #businessmodelsJun 06 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Gnome 3.0: the complete guide http://is.gd/U5gdFr "Gnome 3 is radically different from previous releases."Jun 06 09:19
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schestowitz_goblin: about an hourJun 06 09:20
schestowitzIt's the Lins*** crowdJun 06 09:20
schestowitzAnyway, we're resistant to future attacks, many ops in lineJun 06 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Big media brands using open source #Drupal to publish http://is.gd/0JWVcN because it is good, not because it is free. #gpl #cmsJun 06 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Stuck in the metro. Some idiot decided to take a dive in front of an incoming train again?Jun 06 09:20
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schestowitzI guess their site is a dead site these daysJun 06 09:21
schestowitzNot much market for Linux FUDJun 06 09:21
schestowitzAnyway, we ought to talk about other things, not those kids...Jun 06 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Woman receives angry letter from person she experimented on in 1939 - http://bit.ly/j1Y6ey extraordinary on many levelsJun 06 09:22
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_goblinJust posted my Mageia viewsJun 06 09:23
_goblin....Jun 06 09:23
schestowitz_goblin: 1700 ogg downloads yesterdayJun 06 09:23
schestowitz250 MP3sJun 06 09:23
_goblingreat stuffJun 06 09:24
schestowitzfor a Sunday..Jun 06 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 200 million downloads on 2011-06-06 08:17 UTCJun 06 09:24
schestowitz_goblin: in your blogs? the review?Jun 06 09:24
_goblinyeah, the dent hasn't been piped here for some reasonJun 06 09:24
schestowitzmaybe starts with "@"Jun 06 09:24
schestowitzor has many "!" occurrencesJun 06 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Kaiser Chiefs band releases its latest album in a brilliant stroke of social media - http://tnw.co/lsVcLx *this* is what is neededJun 06 09:25
_goblinno @Jun 06 09:25
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schestowitzidentica changed something last yearJun 06 09:26
schestowitzAnd it limited what comes through, I think an API changeJun 06 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Will Airbnb Ever Be “The Airbnb For X”? - http://tcrn.ch/kQbbBz interesting analysisJun 06 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ATM assholes. Said "trains are operating between x and y. But we moved one stop in 15 minutes.#wtfJun 06 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Annoying things about KDE -The "K" prefix to applications....Konfusing, Kompletely silly and why does a KDE taskbar often look so cramped?Jun 06 09:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So its back to Gnome, leaving KDE on the shelf...not impressed.Jun 06 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Cloud - http://bit.ly/kSZmxF #xkcd reveals the terrible truth #cloudcomputingJun 06 09:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: La Necesidad de IBM de Explicar Patentes de Office Suite http://is.gd/T3s10l #OpenOfficeorg #odf #ibm #swpts #microsoftJun 06 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @glynmoody: The Cloud - http://bit.ly/kSZmxF #xkcd reveals the terrible truth #cloudcomputingJun 06 09:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: La Necesidad de IBM de Explicar Patentes de Office Suite (y cómo Bill Gates Atacó A la Interoperabilidad con Lotus, El Uso de Patentes en Contra de OpenOffice.org) | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.76 KBJun 06 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #India to join the open data revolution in July - http://tnw.co/mOoCgl great move: wonder how thoroughgoing it will be? #opendataJun 06 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] Presentation of #EU ICT research on future and emerging technologies http://j.mp/m5SMUO #fet (Flash required, unfortunately)Jun 06 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: SCOTUS Ayuda a los Monopolistas, No a Los Ciudadanos de los Estados Unidos (nuevo) http://is.gd/QSuFJ8 #swpats #scotus #usJun 06 09:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Infinite thanks to @goforbes28 for keeping the !techrights wiki clean. People are trying to abuse the site these days.Jun 06 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @CameronNeylon Can anyone point me to someone who can advise on whether materials are subject to UK Human Tissue Act? >>anyone?Jun 06 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brad Kuhn: a life devoted to Free Software - http://bit.ly/ka9jz5 useful interview with one of the key freedom fighters #freeswJun 06 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @sebsebseb yeah its getting the time...I wish I could listen to all the hardwork put into audiocasts :(Jun 06 09:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] We are #Khan Academy, You Will Be Assimilated! - http://bit.ly/l3N9ZB nicely contrarian piece; makes good points #educationJun 06 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] besides all the privacy concerns, #Google Search is now so JS-laden, it's practically unusable to me. Switching to http://ixquick.com/Jun 06 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bloomsbury Launches Digital Imprint - http://bit.ly/lpY1Dr "where rights have reverted to author &where no edition currently in print"Jun 06 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: Brad Kuhn: a life devoted to Free Software http://is.gd/RWiLlr new interview with @bkuhnJun 06 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: #MeeGo & #Maemo Weekly News for Monday, 6 Jun 2011 out now: http://www.mwkn.net/ #n900Jun 06 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Slave Labor and Intellectual Property - http://bit.ly/jqIcAb lots of interesting points #intellectualmonopoliesJun 06 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] U.N. Report Declares Internet Access a Human Right http://is.gd/1uHy3A #internet #threestrikesJun 06 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #China calls US culprit in global 'Internet war' http://is.gd/lp3C9b need anyone forget http://is.gd/1jjp4OJun 06 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Origami artists bring action against Morris - http://bit.ly/jBSk5W more #copyright madnessJun 06 10:06
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schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/nokias-elop-android-is-killing-us-in-china-europe/49665Jun 06 10:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Augusto Mateus: "Onde Portugal é competitivo é na mão-de-obra qualificada" - http://ur1.ca/4ctio Por outras palavras, mal paga.Jun 06 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cell phone use may cause cancer: WHO http://is.gd/SsMfah smoking used to be considered not harmful, given the right 'source'Jun 06 10:10
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schestowitzhttp://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/security/mac-os-update-detects-deletes-macdefender-scarewareJun 06 10:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mac OS update detects, deletes MacDefender 'scareware' | Computerworld New Zealand .::. Size~: 35.73 KBJun 06 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Yeah! http://www.communityleadershipteam.org/people.htmlJun 06 10:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Preserve #Books? The New Physical Archive of the Internet Archive - http://bit.ly/l7Wy05 excellent explanation from Brewster KahleJun 06 10:17
_goblinschestowitz: well technically the argument that smoking is harmful is actually an argument to ban alcoholJun 06 10:17
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_goblinmore people die related to alchohol and it costs the taxpayer more.Jun 06 10:17
_goblinalso more people indirectly affected by alchohol than tabacco.Jun 06 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] XKCD: The Cloud http://xkcd.com/908/Jun 06 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Dax Solomon Umaming: Thunderbird 3.1 and Lightning on a 64-bit Linux http://goo.gl/Ztsf8Jun 06 10:19
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schestowitz_goblin: I didn't say banJun 06 10:20
schestowitzbanning things in general is not a good thingJun 06 10:20
schestowitzIt takes away freedom, even one's freedom to harm 0neselfJun 06 10:20
schestowitz"Jun 06 10:20
schestowitzApache will demand all GPL code is stripped & there's plenty in the distro Oracle doesn't own. So step one is massive rework.Jun 06 10:20
schestowitzAlso: Apache was quoted in Oracle's press release. You'll note no-one from the OpenOffice/LibreOffice community was involved.Jun 06 10:20
schestowitzAnd: The only people applauding it are people who don't contribute/participate in OpenOffice/ LibreOffice. [More.] - Simon Phipps, Twitter Jun 06 10:20
schestowitz"Jun 06 10:20
schestowitzBlechJun 06 10:20
schestowitzSums it up right..Jun 06 10:20
schestowitzIBMJun 06 10:20
schestowitzEven Groklaw is not drinking their kool-aidJun 06 10:20
_goblinschestowitz: no I know you didn't say ban, its a general comment aimed at those who say smoking is harmful...it is, but then there are other things worse...its just at the moment its more socially acceptable to drink than smokeJun 06 10:22
_goblinI would support a smoking ban, if, there was an alcohol ban too.Jun 06 10:22
_goblinbtw....Jun 06 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] iloveubuntu: Meet #Lernid 0.8.1, effort-free app between you and !Ubuntu events http://goo.gl/4nWo3Jun 06 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Help #Compiz rockstar Sam Spilsbury squash the annoying invisible window bug… http://goo.gl/6jlc3Jun 06 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Zeitgeist news round up: Security, data sources and timey-wimey stuff http://goo.gl/7f2T8Jun 06 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Ubuntu Control Center 0.6.1 Released http://goo.gl/UXztmJun 06 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Thunderbird Beta Channel !PPA For !Ubuntu 11.04, 10.10 And 10.04 Users http://goo.gl/GWX1pJun 06 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] James Hansen slams Keystone XL Canada-U.S. Pipeline - http://bit.ly/mA0sca #tarsands likely to be catastrophic for climate #canadaJun 06 10:24
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_goblinwhats OpenOffice? ;)Jun 06 10:24
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: James Hansen slams Keystone XL Canada-U.S. Pipeline: “Exploitation of tar sands would make it implausible to stabilize climate and avoid disastrous global climate impacts” | ThinkProgress .::. Size~: 34.18 KBJun 06 10:24
schestowitz"[PJ: But will the FUD cloud that just happens to surround all Microsoft competitors go away, or will another stupid lawsuit get filed, so articles like this can make ugly headlines? I don't know why journalists love to write about litigation against large companies, siding with the "underdog", as here, but it makes it easy for anyone wanting to smear a competitor, just by getting a small proxy to bring the litigation, a la SCO, Jun 06 10:27
schestowitzpowered by Microsoft money. Look how that turned out. Were all the articles that plastered our screens in the beginning of that litigation accurate, all about IBM being in trouble and Linux doomed? How about the mainframe FUD? IBM so far wins every battle, and that ought to tell journalists something the next time a proxy shows up claiming that big bad company X or Y is being mean to little competing business. Look for who the little Jun 06 10:27
schestowitzbusiness is being backed by, and then you're more likely get the story right.] - Timothy Prickett Morgan, Register"Jun 06 10:27
schestowitzIBM tried to push their spin into itJun 06 10:27
schestowitzBy contacting me and saying I should not mention they didJun 06 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !GNOME Shell System Monitor Extension Gets A Preferences Dialog And Lots Of New Features http://goo.gl/NnPfHJun 06 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Pinguy OS Mini 11.04.1 - A Stripped Down Pinguy OS [Uses Compiz 0.8.6] http://goo.gl/8MOqQJun 06 10:27
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schestowitzSo I confronted them for an hour on the phoneJun 06 10:27
schestowitz_goblin: it's that thingie which does presentations and stuff :-)Jun 06 10:28
schestowitzAnd IBM makes proprietary wares from it )Lotus)Jun 06 10:28
schestowitz[10:22] <_goblin> I would support a smoking ban, if, there was an alcohol ban too.Jun 06 10:28
schestowitzYou can't really ban itJun 06 10:28
schestowitzI could grow plants and smoke themJun 06 10:28
schestowitzThe effect on my health would be the same, it would smell differentJun 06 10:29
schestowitzThis actually reminds me of an autotuned track.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbc2NaLuv1AJun 06 10:29
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schestowitzhttp://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/06/02/goldman-receives-subpoena-over-financial-crisis/Jun 06 10:31
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schestowitz_goblin: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/06/01/playstation-store-is-available-and-updated-now/Jun 06 10:31
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schestowitzsebsebseb: PJ (Groklaw) uis trying MageiaJun 06 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fin du protocole ouvert Gopher dans FF4 - http://bit.ly/lI8ecV nooooo #firefox #gopherJun 06 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Anybody still getting bug 709461? http://goo.gl/Q4nbj Application windows can sometimes fail to display and will mask regions of the screenJun 06 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Raphaël Hertzog: Official !Debian / !Ubuntu packages for #Dropbox http://goo.gl/hvMgzJun 06 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Manish Sinha: Releasing #Zeitgeist Datasources 0.8.0 http://goo.gl/P4fy1Jun 06 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Julita Inca: if you are new and smart user in !gnome 3 (: http://goo.gl/qcwDmJun 06 10:32
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schestowitzhttp://www.ewg.org/cellphoneradiation/Get-a-Safer-Phone?&allphones=1Jun 06 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finland: Blocking of domestic websites ruled illegal http://is.gd/aU9UDZ #finlandJun 06 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: Slave Labor and Intellectual Property - http://bit.ly/jqIcAb lots of interesting points #intellectualmonopoliesJun 06 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “I will prove that I am worth more than a spare coin to pay 4 someone’s debts” - http://bit.ly/lUySh7 tragic such stories still possibleJun 06 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Safer phones, radiation wise http://is.gd/IV5X6AJun 06 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] v @schestowitz: #Finland: #Censorship of domestic websites ruled illegal http://is.gd/aU9UDZJun 06 10:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @methoddan Good morning from Dublin. First full day of Red Hat Partner Summit today. Gonna set up a little interview outpostJun 06 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Freedom Box Alternative to Facebook http://is.gd/VW3vnx not cataloguing peopleJun 06 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Official !Debian !Ubuntu packages for !Dropbox • by Raphaël Hertzog http://ping.fm/MeAIQJun 06 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Discover 5 free software that you can support with Flattr • by Raphaël Hertzog http://ping.fm/2hIcTJun 06 10:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !GNOME Shell System Monitor Extension Gets A Preferences Dialog And Lots Of New Features ~ @WebUpd8 http://ping.fm/JqZtqJun 06 10:52
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schestowitzhttp://www.oscon.com/oscon2011/public/schedule/detail/19242Jun 06 10:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Bahrain to try medics for their role in anti-government protests - CNN http://ping.fm/jPORiJun 06 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Contributor Agreements Considered Harmful http://is.gd/PwE5y3 by @fontanaJun 06 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Rat-eating plant discovered in Philippines http://is.gd/uOHlDe via @kuroJun 06 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CLAs remind me of the issues with "defensive" software patents. when changing hands, these obligations become a joke. "Defensive"? LOL!Jun 06 10:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Nano-bricks have extraordinary possibilities | Science, Technology and Politics http://ping.fm/H4cpcJun 06 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Bribery in #India: A website for #whistleblowers http://is.gd/OYRW9SJun 06 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Drugs companies to lower price of vaccines in developing countries http://is.gd/28hDCM #PR stunt to get political leverage methinks?Jun 06 11:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Swapping Sinatra for EnoJun 06 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux-based tablet aims at document management market http://is.gd/zg7Rrp nice growth for #Linux in this area. #android #ricohJun 06 11:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Toshiba Thrive With #Linux http://is.gd/mvICOg and unlike Samsung, Toshiba makes no payments to #Microsoft for Linux. #swpatsJun 06 11:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Toshiba Thrive, Galaxy Tab 10.1 due soon with Android 3.1 - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.44 KBJun 06 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bluetooth .apk from netbook to phone; tap on the notification and it is installed. I love this !android phone.Jun 06 11:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/77676820228616192Jun 06 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr@fcassia: @schestowitz well, we disagree. CLAs allow dual-licensing, and dual-licensing allows for corporate resale=profits=more devs work on FOSSJun 06 11:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/77677772109131776Jun 06 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr@fcassia: @schestowitz Firms/projects that use CLAs:  MySQL, OpenOffice.org, Fedora (Red Hat), Canonical/Ubuntu, Zend, FSF, Django, Node.js,Diaspora,+Jun 06 11:27
schestowitzDiaspora too?Jun 06 11:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/nj3ma/status/77678557031178241Jun 06 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr@nj3ma: @schestowitz Sure. Great work you do. It's an honour to serve with you,sir. Now to find an IRC client for my phone.Jun 06 11:27
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schestowitzHi, ThistleWebJun 06 11:30
ThistleWebheyJun 06 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Linus released #Linux #kernel 3.0-rc2 http://bit.ly/lwqvhs "It's been reasonably quiet, although the btrfs update is bigger than I [...]"Jun 06 11:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !CC !Linux Training Manual for LPI Level 1 Released «» LPI http://ping.fm/3pjMDJun 06 11:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 6/6/2011: Toshiba and Ricoh Sell Linux Tablets http://is.gd/kikjgX !techrights with a reader's picks section (community edits)Jun 06 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 6/6/2011: Toshiba and Ricoh Sell Linux Tablets http://is.gd/kikjgX #techrights with a reader's picks section (community edits)Jun 06 11:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bitcoin’s Four Hurdles: Part Two – Transactions - http://bit.ly/lIDqur "a compelling reason to switch to another payment transaction system"Jun 06 11:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Future of money: Virtual cash gets real http://bit.ly/lB79B9Jun 06 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Canada commits to open government in “Speech from the Throne” - http://bit.ly/iqnsCY and another one #opendataJun 06 11:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #DistroWatch Weekly Issue 408 has been released. This week's feature story: Trying on a !Fedora that gives a new look http://goo.gl/ca9REJun 06 11:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/nj3ma/status/77686404523622400Jun 06 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr@nj3ma: So if you are in the west, don't stop your donations to Oxfam but also support the work of folks like @schestowitz #Africa esp. needs itJun 06 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Bitcoin’s Four Hurdles: Part One » http://ur1.ca/4cu2d & Two http://ur1.ca/4cu2c v @glynmoody & @hookJun 06 12:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Sergio Zanchetta: The sooner the better - !Ubuntu #Oneiric Alpha 1 is out and ready to be tested in your laptop. http://goo.gl/vJprtJun 06 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Resource Efficiency: The Sixth Wave of Innovation - http://bit.ly/iTGiZ3 hmm, his name rings a bell...Jun 06 12:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The benefits of copyediting - http://hvrd.me/jKkxvH less than you might think #openaccessJun 06 12:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The National Heritage List for England - http://bit.ly/kB78LU all listed buildings, online & searchable; telephone kiosks, too...Jun 06 12:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] OMG, somebody put a page about me on #Wikipedia #Japan http://ur1.ca/4cu5e -- How do I tell it's not a defacement? ;-)Jun 06 12:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tante: Geschäftsmodell für RWE: Die deutschen AKWs komplett an Frankreich verkaufen und zu franz. Hoheitsgebiet erklären. #ProfitJun 06 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @tante: Heilige Scheiße, Wetter hat zum Erstschlag gegen #Oldenburg ausgeholt.Jun 06 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] New !LO co-host at Sixgun Studio Bonn? http://ur1.ca/4cu8oJun 06 12:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I thought Hiddink didn't want #Chelsea full time because his wife & family didn't want the UK lifestyle, has this changed? !footballJun 06 12:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Can any Broadband radios receive this new UK player http://www.radioplayer.co.uk/ ? Just curious!Jun 06 12:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @kaddile: RT @vinzv Good Morning, Dublin! http://ur1.ca/4ct7p Das schaut einfach toll aus.Jun 06 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] SystemRescueCd 2.2.0 brings updated kernels - The H http://ping.fm/6z5T0Jun 06 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @datacharmer: How the entertainment industry encourages piracy - http://t.co/OC8vCZa #fb < I copy you entirely, esp. re piracy advertsmntJun 06 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » Linuxaria: Introduction to Backtrack 5 « Defintely gonna try this distro http://ping.fm/157t6Jun 06 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @datacharmer: How the entertainment industry encourages piracy - http://t.co/OC8vCZa #fb < I copy you entirely, esp... http://b1t.it/maPJun 06 13:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How to replace GRUB with #BURG on #Linux !Mint 11 http://ping.fm/IcBQNJun 06 13:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] now gangs of killer cucumbers are joining up with gangs of killer beansprouts? are those advocating a veggie lifestyle in cahoots? #humourJun 06 13:06
DaemonFC"For comparison Mandriva currently has 4,059 source RPM packages that are older than six months, 1,065 binary packages without matching source, and 4,756 binary packages with broken dependencies."Jun 06 13:06
DaemonFCouchJun 06 13:06
DaemonFCso not only is Mandriva a mess, it's almost certainly violating some licensesJun 06 13:07
DaemonFChttp://www.osnews.com/story/24803/The_Sins_of_UbuntuJun 06 13:07
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DaemonFCthe blowback continuesJun 06 13:07
DaemonFCnot only are all the Ubuntu-based distros using GNOME 2 while they figure out what to doJun 06 13:08
DaemonFCUbuntu Studio won't use Unity and will switch to XFCEJun 06 13:08
DaemonFCthat's the problem with making unilateral decisions that your community doesn't wantJun 06 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice Conference Call for Papers has started: http://is.gd/WKfk1z !libo !tdf #liboconJun 06 13:09
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MinceRXFCE is better than gnome anywayJun 06 13:09
DaemonFCin the last 5 years, Ubuntu's memory requirements have quadrupled Jun 06 13:10
DaemonFC256 megs was the recommended amount of RAM for 6.06Jun 06 13:10
DaemonFCnow they say you need 512 megs minimum and they recommend 1 GBJun 06 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] European Commission migrates to Win7 w/o public tender, says "we're not locked in" http://ur1.ca/4cuc9 !fsfeJun 06 13:10
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DaemonFCUnity with the default applications takes more RAM than KDE 4.6 with the default applicationsJun 06 13:11
DaemonFCsometimes because the applications are more bloated and sometimes because things in Unity leak memoryJun 06 13:11
DaemonFCI suppose it's possible that the switch to GTK+ 3 and a possible fix for Compiz could clean a lot of that upJun 06 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Could Pirates Be Your Friends? - http://bit.ly/iPCLQs course: in age of #abundance, real threat is obscurity, not piracy (v @copyrightgirl)Jun 06 13:12
DaemonFCassuming it happensJun 06 13:12
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DaemonFCthe author of this article says Canonical should have bought Novell for their proprietary software and shoved it into Ubuntu so it would work better with WindowsJun 06 13:14
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 13:14
DaemonFChehJun 06 13:14
DaemonFC"Give him a checklist of installable products -- with each denoted as free or proprietary. Users could choose software conforming to the IP laws of their country."Jun 06 13:14
oiaohmCanonical did not have the money to even consider aquiring Novell.Jun 06 13:14
DaemonFCOr we could do it my wayJun 06 13:14
DaemonFC"Fuck the imaginary property laws, install everything"Jun 06 13:15
DaemonFCI like mine betterJun 06 13:15
DaemonFCMark couldn't have pulled out his checkbook for that?Jun 06 13:15
oiaohmReally depending where you are depends if patents are legal.Jun 06 13:16
DaemonFC"In contrast, UFW expects the user to write its rules with its barren, minimalist GUI. This is neither state-of-the-art nor competitive."Jun 06 13:16
DaemonFCthey could use system-config-firewall from Red HatJun 06 13:16
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 13:16
MinceRDaemonFC: what if you do it at work?Jun 06 13:16
DaemonFCMinceR, do it real quietly Jun 06 13:17
DaemonFC:PJun 06 13:17
MinceR:>Jun 06 13:17
DaemonFChe complains that Nautilus is too hard to useJun 06 13:17
DaemonFC(as opposed to Windows Explorer?)Jun 06 13:18
MinceRmwahahaJun 06 13:18
DaemonFChe can't figure out how to edit grub 2 settings and run update-grubJun 06 13:19
DaemonFChe complains they use icedtea/openjdk instead of offering Oracle JavaJun 06 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @mpesce Good news everybody! #pdf11 is going to be LIVESTREAMED! Tune in at personaldemocracy.com - whee!!!!Jun 06 13:20
oiaohm?Jun 06 13:21
DaemonFC"Howard Fosdick (President, FCI) is an independent consultant who supports databases and operating systems. Read his other articles and download his free guide How to Tune Up Windows from here. You can reach him at contactfci at the domain name of sbcglobal (period) net."Jun 06 13:21
DaemonFCthat explains it allJun 06 13:21
oiaohmopenjdk is one of Oracle JavasJun 06 13:21
DaemonFChey MinceR, don't be a fosdickJun 06 13:21
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 13:21
MinceR"how to tune up windows": install gnu+linux over it.Jun 06 13:21
oiaohmReally kde is starting to embed a grub editor.Jun 06 13:21
MinceRhe sounds like he only supports one "operating system", and even that is kind of stretching itJun 06 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The European Commission’s locked-in syndrome - http://bit.ly/jWJNlm read and weep #eu #laziness #cluelessness #contemptuousnessJun 06 13:22
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ThistleWebOracle Jawas? sounds like lil sand dwellers on Tatooine who go from town to town hocking their fortune telling services, while their compadres sell barely functional refurb droids ;)Jun 06 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] LibreOffice Conference call for papers is out, deadline July 22: http://wmk.me/mCXQAuJun 06 13:24
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DaemonFCThis R2 unit has a bad motivator. "Sorry kid, we sold you the patents, not the droid"Jun 06 13:24
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 13:24
MinceR:>Jun 06 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bahraini doctors and nurses who treated injured protesters face trial in Gulf kingdom - http://wapo.st/mzCz4V gosh, how civilised #bahrainJun 06 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: RT @thayer: @qtbynokia Any chance you could retweet this Nokia/Qt event please? http://ow.ly/5aQTz Hacking apps for good!Jun 06 13:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Sins Of #Ubuntu http://is.gd/MkYxSS good articleJun 06 13:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Document Foundation donations have tripled since Apache OOo announcement: http://wmk.me/lphawTJun 06 13:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [tdf-discuss] Interesting observation wrt donations - The Document Foundation Mailing List Archives .::. Size~: 6.94 KBJun 06 13:32
DaemonFCis Apple interested in using Mesa?Jun 06 13:33
DaemonFCthere's been a string of commits by them recently Jun 06 13:33
DaemonFCnaturally only stuff that pertains to themJun 06 13:34
DaemonFChttp://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/05/air-conditioning-history-mass-market-fortune-1938/Jun 06 13:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Can air conditioning cozy up to American consumers? (Fortune, 1938) -  Fortune Features .::. Size~: 107.78 KBJun 06 13:35
DaemonFClolJun 06 13:35
DaemonFC"In the interest of tapping the nation's buying desires, FORTUNE included in its Quarterly Survey this month the question: "If you could satisfactorily air condition your whole house for $1,200 or any one room for $200, would you do it?" The answer was an emphatic "No." Two-thirds of the public would not install air conditioning in a house even if it could be done for $1,200,"Jun 06 13:35
DaemonFC1938 dollarsJun 06 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mozilla Labs Bring The Webian Shell: Full Screen Web Browser Concept - http://bit.ly/jv3UAF Netscape invented it 10+ years ago: the WebtopJun 06 13:35
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DaemonFCok, in today's terms that's like saying, would you buy a $3,062 window unit or a $18,373 central air unitJun 06 13:36
DaemonFCgiven that I'd probably say noJun 06 13:37
DaemonFCbut a window unit is more like $100 in today's moneyJun 06 13:37
DaemonFCor roughly $7 in 1938Jun 06 13:38
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 13:38
DaemonFCI agree that $3,062 for a window unit is a bit much :DJun 06 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The Architecture of Open Source Applications: Learn from those before you http://red.ht/lwiqyZ #FOSSJun 06 13:39
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DaemonFCMinceR, There was this nutcase that was building environmentally friendly underground homes out of garbage out in the desertJun 06 13:40
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DaemonFChey, if you have $200,000 laying around to build a subterranean mud hut with, knock yourself outJun 06 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Are Your Solar Panels Breeding Bolsheviks? Tea Party Congress Targets National Renewable Energy Lab (NREL) - http://bit.ly/lNO3xO bonkersJun 06 13:40
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Really here in australia miners digging for opals found it simpler just to tunnel thier homes in the process you might get lucky and hit opal.Jun 06 13:41
oiaohmYep a chance that building the house was a profit.Jun 06 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft promo by the #BBC http://is.gd/QFk6Re look at the end comments - "This industry doesn't belong to Microsoft or Google" #AcerJun 06 13:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Dundee University launches degree in comic books http://is.gd/zEuiebJun 06 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RT @dontcallmedom Je serai ce vendredi à la Seyne sur Mer à la conf E1S2, pour parler de «#html5, le nouveau visage du Web» http://kwz.m ...Jun 06 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Australian Music, Software Groups Back Away From Internet Termination - http://bit.ly/kl9wPv now we need to work on #France & #UKJun 06 13:52
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DaemonFCnothing the Republicans do surprise me anymoreJun 06 13:53
DaemonFCone of them gave a speech where he said most of the people on disability just need to be shown how to use a bar of soapJun 06 13:53
DaemonFCI mean, sorry guy dying of cancer, you are just lazy and don't want to work. Here, wash yourself off and go take a job interview!Jun 06 13:54
MinceR:>Jun 06 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @opensourceway The Architecture of Open Source Applications: Learn from those before you http://red.ht/lwiqyZ #FOSSJun 06 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @karsten European Commission migrates to Win7 w/o public tender, says "we're not locked in" http://ur1.ca/4cuc9 !fsfeJun 06 13:55
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DaemonFCfrees up more money to give away as corporate welfare to his rich friends no doubtJun 06 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @lods1211 however, to take adv of safe harbour Au ISPs still require a policy provides for termination of accounts of repeat infringers.Jun 06 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Australian Music, Software Groups Back Away From Internet Termination - http://bit.ly/kl9wPv we need to work on #France & #UKJun 06 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] MSI's Afterburner !Android app makes GPU overclocking easy • by Darren Murph http://ping.fm/WK1HRJun 06 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @karsten: European Commission migrates to Win7 w/o public tender, says "we're not locked in" http://ur1.ca/4cuc9 #fsfeJun 06 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The Architecture of Open Source Applications: Learn from those before you | http://red.ht/lwiqyZ #FOSSJun 06 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning !identiverseJun 06 14:06
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DaemonFCskipscreen now tries to install spyware when you install it into FirefoxJun 06 14:07
DaemonFC:PJun 06 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The internet needs tougher policing, says #Vodafone http://ur1.ca/4culi By @katiesolJun 06 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Want to know what's happening in #Greece and what's about to happen in #Portugal? http://youtu.be/Os_ySWiAmPk ; http://youtu.be/_V6JU4s2cAEJun 06 14:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] On the last #Kermode & Mayo podcast @stephenfry recommended http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob%27s_Burgers. I second that.Jun 06 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @vk7hse: @fabsh if she stays setup a Flattr button for her! /cc @th3k4tyJun 06 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] European procurement reform more urgent than ever http://ur1.ca/4cuc9 @NeelieKroesEU !fsfeJun 06 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @vanden @x11r5 Dude! It has been six hours. Please resolve the dramatic tension.Jun 06 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Bahraini doctors and nurses who treated injured protesters face trial in Gulf kingdom - http://wapo.st/mzCz4V gosh, how ci ...Jun 06 14:15
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DaemonFCRAR....must not killJun 06 14:18
DaemonFCugghJun 06 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !GNOME visual identity approach: simple line-drawing icons http://goo.gl/ZCS0MJun 06 14:21
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DaemonFChmmm, heavy handed mods who ban people who are quite helpful for trivial infractionsJun 06 14:21
*DaemonFC wondered if he was browsing Ubuntu Forums for a momentJun 06 14:21
DaemonFCI got a PM from one of the mods on a forum I read sometimes asking me why my post count is at zeroJun 06 14:21
DaemonFCI replied that I saw what happened to the last guy that tried to help someone there :)Jun 06 14:22
DaemonFCwho wants to be I get banned for being a submarine user Jun 06 14:22
DaemonFC*betJun 06 14:23
MinceR:>Jun 06 14:23
MinceRyou get banned for posting, you get banned for not postingJun 06 14:23
DaemonFCUbuntu Forums is the worst forum site I've ever seen for that behavior Jun 06 14:23
DaemonFCI post to Fedora's forum sometimes because they tend to act more like adultsJun 06 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: How To Change Application Indicators Order In The !Ubuntu Indicator Applet http://goo.gl/sdajDJun 06 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Victor Palau's Blog: !Ubuntu Certification Going Forward http://goo.gl/LD5dqJun 06 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I think they think YouTube !cc-by is a big hoo-haw because it offers a alternative to !copyright #allrightsreservedJun 06 14:24
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DaemonFCMinceR, in any hierarchy, if you speak your mind your days are numberedJun 06 14:24
DaemonFCbecause it's only a matter of time until you anger someone in authorityJun 06 14:24
MinceRthat might be trueJun 06 14:25
DaemonFCbut some groups are worse than othersJun 06 14:25
oiaohmDepends.  DaemonFCJun 06 14:25
MinceR...unless you're on top :>Jun 06 14:25
DaemonFCtrueJun 06 14:25
MinceRthat said, i frequent a few IRC channels where i didn't anger anyone in authority much by speaking my mindJun 06 14:25
oiaohmFedora forums as long as you have logic behind what you are saying you ass is safe.  DaemonFCJun 06 14:25
MinceRand i'm not an owner of any of those channels :>Jun 06 14:25
oiaohmNow if you are just insulting you are doomed.Jun 06 14:26
oiaohmSame in winehq.Jun 06 14:26
DaemonFCpeople get banned right and left on Ubuntu ForumsJun 06 14:26
MinceRthen again, i've left dozens of channels where this wasn't trueJun 06 14:26
DaemonFCyou don't even have to do much of anything to get banned eitherJun 06 14:26
MinceRSturgeon's Law, i guessJun 06 14:26
DaemonFCthen once you're banned, they'll never consider unbanning youJun 06 14:26
oiaohmUbuntu forums are some of the worst managed.Jun 06 14:26
DaemonFCI read Ubuntu Forums sometimes as a guest and I almost always find someone who has been bannedJun 06 14:27
oiaohmBecause they don't want to hear about problems.Jun 06 14:27
oiaohmSolving problems are they way to build a better distribution.Jun 06 14:27
DaemonFCand I go through their post history out of curiosity and it was usually something minor or actually the mod's faultJun 06 14:27
MinceRthey don't want to build a better distribution, thoughJun 06 14:27
MinceRthey want to build a distribution that has all their idiocy in itJun 06 14:27
MinceRfrom mono to ui elements and concepts from crAppleJun 06 14:28
oiaohmGot it in one.Jun 06 14:28
oiaohmThe maintainer ship of the forums shows the quality if the distribution.Jun 06 14:28
MinceR(and from m$, i guess)Jun 06 14:28
oiaohmcrux arch fedora SL I have found all nice.Jun 06 14:28
MinceRi wonder if crApple's pathetic excuse for a windowing system handles and draws windows of frozen applicationsJun 06 14:28
MinceR(on winblows, you're lucky if it lets you force close them after a while)Jun 06 14:29
oiaohmdebian forums ok they might bite you head off from time to time but they are very lax on banning.Jun 06 14:29
oiaohmopensuse forums are not too bad either.Jun 06 14:29
oiaohmBasically their is something radically wrong with Ubuntu.Jun 06 14:29
oiaohmAlso the lead of Ubuntu thinks copyright assignement is OKJun 06 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] My keyboard ju*t broke; I can't type the *ibilant con*onant :(Jun 06 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @ubuntustatus Today's **proposed** updates for 10.04 LTS and 10.10 pulled in wrong linux kernel -> http://is.gd/l6WM9vJun 06 14:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Today's proposed updates for 10.04 LTS and 10.10 pulled in wronglinux kernel .::. Size~: 3.9 KBJun 06 14:31
DaemonFCMinceR, The good news is that Windows Vista/7 no longer wait 60 seconds to finally decide the app is deadJun 06 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BT and Talk Talk appeal of judicial review decision - http://bit.ly/kE970R bit of a faint hope, I fear #deactJun 06 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I suspect the idea is to make it accessible for those less aware than you... thing is many creators won't even consider !cc-byJun 06 14:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Rights Group | BT and Talk Talk appeal of judicial review decision .::. Size~: 13.64 KBJun 06 14:32
DaemonFCbut you can set XP to a 5 second time out tooJun 06 14:32
MinceRhow long does it wait?Jun 06 14:32
DaemonFC5 seconds after you click the close buttonJun 06 14:33
MinceRthat said, i have been in the situation where i was hammering on the End Task button and it still wasn't sure if it wanted to close itJun 06 14:33
DaemonFCif app doesn't respond, the force quit dialog appearsJun 06 14:33
DaemonFCMinceR, I find it helpful to scream DIE DIE DIE!!!!!Jun 06 14:34
MinceRi scream less nice thingsJun 06 14:34
MinceRbut it doesn't help winblows, only my mental stateJun 06 14:34
DaemonFCMinceR, Windows has improved, you hardly ever have to give up and pull out the power cord anymoreJun 06 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Oracle and OpenOffice: The Final Insult http://bit.ly/licfPQJun 06 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Imagine creators who have only vaguely heard of cc seeing YouTube cc-by and coming to the conclusion that is the extent of !ccJun 06 14:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: Oracle and OpenOffice: The Final Insult .::. Size~: 55.23 KBJun 06 14:36
MinceRyou can just hold the power button for 5 secondsJun 06 14:36
MinceRbut it used to be betterJun 06 14:36
MinceRyou could just press resetJun 06 14:36
MinceRnow you don't have a reset buttonJun 06 14:36
oiaohmMost motherboards still do.Jun 06 14:37
oiaohmJust the cases lack the button.Jun 06 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @nj3ma Never thought I would live to see the day a cop apologize. He actually did apologize.Jun 06 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Microsoft and Mozilla's continuing Chrome conundrum http://bit.ly/igIEs7Jun 06 14:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft and Mozilla's continuing Chrome conundrum .::. Size~: 38.76 KBJun 06 14:39
MinceRit's probably faster to wait for 5 seconds than to open the case and reset on the mainboard :>Jun 06 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] How !copyright can harm creators: "Theft by Copyright: C.T. Talman vs. W.S. Hartshorn" http://ur1.ca/4cpq3Jun 06 14:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Theft by Copyright: C.T. Talman vs. W.S. Hartshorn «  Laurel L. Russwurm .::. Size~: 61.03 KBJun 06 14:41
DaemonFCapple lossless in an RARJun 06 14:42
*DaemonFC gives it to MinceR Jun 06 14:42
MinceRstop litteringJun 06 14:42
*MinceR throws it into the bit bucketJun 06 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Hackers for a good cause http://bit.ly/lSRJ18Jun 06 14:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hackers for a good cause - San Jose Mercury News .::. Size~: 72.05 KBJun 06 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] The parting of #Linux and Mono http://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/171285/parting-linux-and-monoJun 06 14:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The parting of Linux and Mono | ITworld .::. Size~: 109.44 KBJun 06 14:47
DaemonFCAmazon MP3 for Android with Amazon Cloud PlayerJun 06 14:47
DaemonFC:PJun 06 14:48
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Murphy_%28musician%29Jun 06 14:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Peter Murphy (musician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 79.4 KBJun 06 14:50
DaemonFCthere's nothing worse than an aging proto-emo Jun 06 14:50
DaemonFCAmazon MP3 is giving away some of his stuff todayJun 06 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] What are the best multimedia apps for Linux? Let us know your thoughts for our next magazine feature: http://tinyurl.com/6z5hmvbJun 06 14:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Best Linux Applications: Multimedia | TuxRadar Linux .::. Size~: 14.69 KBJun 06 14:52
cubezzzwhat's a proto-emo?Jun 06 14:55
*cubezzz isn't up-to-date on the latest slangJun 06 14:55
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ITsivZ_lCo&feature=relmfuJun 06 14:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - ‪Justin Bieber Hit By Water Bottle AUTOTUNE REMIX‬‏ .::. Size~: 121.19 KBJun 06 14:55
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DaemonFCcubezzz, Pre-Hot Topic EmoJun 06 14:58
DaemonFCdoes that help?Jun 06 14:58
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cubezzzno flash on this machineJun 06 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 3.0-rc2 http://lwn.net/Articles/446244/rssJun 06 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Reverse engineering for open source angers Skype http://bit.ly/jeBevxJun 06 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google paper: C++ is fastest, but the most difficult to master (Register): http://bit.ly/m3nIj5Jun 06 15:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel prepatch 3.0-rc2 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.92 KBJun 06 15:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reverse engineering for open source angers Skype - FierceVoIP .::. Size~: 52.54 KBJun 06 15:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google pits C++ against Java, Scala, and Go • The Register .::. Size~: 24.61 KBJun 06 15:01
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DaemonFCthey'd have to screw up pretty bad to perform worse than JavaJun 06 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft: Out with Silverlight and .Net and in with javaScript and hTML5 -- but where is the tooling? (ZD Net): http://zd.net/kp3FmaJun 06 15:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft needs to tell Windows 8 developers now about 'Jupiter' and Silverlight | ZDNet .::. Size~: 126.18 KBJun 06 15:04
MinceRstrange how much faster 64bit java is compared to 32bit javaJun 06 15:06
DaemonFCso it is hurt by limitations of 32-bit x86Jun 06 15:06
DaemonFCquite badly tooJun 06 15:07
oiaohmMinceR: Really not that strange.Jun 06 15:07
oiaohmRemember java was developed by a developer using 64 bit sparc chips.Jun 06 15:07
oiaohmSo really 32 bit of java is really abusing it.Jun 06 15:08
MinceRsure, but it originally targeted embedded systems :>Jun 06 15:08
MinceRat least when it was called OakJun 06 15:08
oiaohmMinceR: noJun 06 15:08
oiaohmOriginally it was a strange idea by a Sun lead developer.Jun 06 15:08
oiaohmAnd the heads decided to let him develop it and see if it was practical.Jun 06 15:09
oiaohmThen work out how it would be used.Jun 06 15:09
oiaohmOak was kinda a attempt to see how the proto tech could be used.Jun 06 15:09
DaemonFCMicrosoft is trying to turn IE 10 into a "development platform" like they did with IE 6Jun 06 15:11
DaemonFC10 years from now companies will be stuck on IE 10Jun 06 15:11
DaemonFCthey don't learn do they?Jun 06 15:11
MinceRonly the stupidest onesJun 06 15:11
MinceRi know a company that's likely to be stuck on IE 10 then :>Jun 06 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Windows 8 Tile-based apps will be built with HTML5 and Javascript (Tim Anderson's IT Writing): http://bit.ly/kZoIVeJun 06 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO ♺ @sixgun: Remember: No live Linux Outlaws today. We'll have a podcast release for you later, though.Jun 06 15:12
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DaemonFCI think they learned their lesson with Windows SidebarJun 06 15:15
DaemonFCand "Gadgets"Jun 06 15:15
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oiaohmIts funny watching .net developers fret.Jun 06 15:19
MinceRi think "developer" is a strong word there.Jun 06 15:21
gnufreexThey develop problemsJun 06 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @DigitalAgendaEU: The Internet of Things Week 2011 has started in Barcelona. http://www.iot-week.eu/ #internet #IoTJun 06 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ryangahl @thynctank @ryangahl @funkatron okok, I got it. Twitter doesn't kill people, Twitter's ToS kills people.Jun 06 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mfat A dentist: someone who frequently posts "dents" to identi.ca.Jun 06 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Tell #Texas high school: Don't make survivor pay $35,000 for refusing to cheer for her rapist. http://ur1.ca/4cuu8 @CREDOMobileJun 06 15:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome to IoT Week 2011 — IOT Week .::. Size~: 24.85 KBJun 06 15:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tell Texas school district: Don't make survivor pay $35,000 for refusing to cheer for her rapist! .::. Size~: 13.71 KBJun 06 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Inside the Saudi-fatwa against women drivers http://is.gd/v2cEY8Jun 06 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Populism is getting a lot of flak, and rightfully so, but populism is still better than corporatism.Jun 06 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @stshank Can't wait for World #IPv6 Day on Wednesday? Google lets you test your connection here: http://bit.ly/lNQNS7 #cnet >>what funJun 06 15:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fatwa against gender ‘mixing’ prevents Saudi women from driving, according to WikiLeaks cable - BlogPost - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 98.92 KBJun 06 15:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ready for the future of the Internet? .::. Size~: 3.28 KBJun 06 15:32
DaemonFCWhat did Borat say? It was illegal for more than 3 women to be in the same place at once except for prostitution house or a mass grave?Jun 06 15:35
DaemonFC:PJun 06 15:35
DaemonFCthe Muslim countries actually seem to be about like thatJun 06 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lamm without a US postal address I can't sign the petition but it is horrific all the same... http://ur1.ca/4cuu8Jun 06 15:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tell Texas school district: Don't make survivor pay $35,000 for refusing to cheer for her rapist! .::. Size~: 13.71 KBJun 06 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lamm ..but I would tell #Silsbee Texas School District that I am appalled they would lionize sexual predator and penalize his victim. #rapeJun 06 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RIAA: Changing Copyright Term On Recordings Is Unconstitutional (But Only If It's Shorter) - http://bit.ly/m6xIQI #copyright ratchet at workJun 06 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Medvedev proposes Creative Commons-style copyright scheme for #Russia - http://bit.ly/k6m8Ta очень хорошо (v @avilarenata @beabusaniche) #ccJun 06 15:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RIAA: Changing Copyright Term On Recordings Is Unconstitutional (But Only If It's Shorter) | Techdirt .::. Size~: 46.05 KBJun 06 15:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Главные новости часа | Лента новостей "РИА Новости" .::. Size~: 1.53 KBJun 06 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lamm Yes.Jun 06 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Tools needed to boost use of JVM Scala language (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/ks4fONJun 06 15:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tools needed to boost use of JVM Scala language - Computerworld .::. Size~: 127.76 KBJun 06 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM launches city government software platform (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/mo30IvJun 06 15:51
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DaemonFChttp://cdn.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Screenshot-2-w900.jpgJun 06 15:52
DaemonFCBallmer?Jun 06 15:52
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeJun 06 15:52
MinceRlolJun 06 15:53
gnufreexDaemonFC: wtf is that?Jun 06 15:55
DaemonFCZombie BallmerJun 06 15:55
DaemonFCit feeds on the flesh of developersJun 06 15:56
DaemonFCI think it's a Dr. Who screenshot actuallyJun 06 15:56
gnufreexHe eats flash memoryJun 06 15:56
DaemonFCthose news sites are actually lying when they say you can make a Windows 8 app using only HTML 5 and Javascript Jun 06 15:57
DaemonFCyou have to use XAML too, which is .Net, and WPF, which is only going to work on WindowsJun 06 15:57
DaemonFCwithout using those, the "app" can't do very muchJun 06 15:58
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MinceRso why are the .net-using lamers shitting their pants about vista8?Jun 06 16:00
oiaohmReally DaemonFC WPF might not be in Windows 8 other than a emulation to html5Jun 06 16:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Morning folks, how are we all doing today? Good weekend?Jun 06 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] I recommend all !freesoftware people to stay well away from that Sony source code lulz have dumped.Jun 06 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz yes, I know... what I am wondering whether the policy is to promote or undermine !ccJun 06 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks en el Faro http://alturl.com/hacgfJun 06 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I predict @merlyn is going to eventually replace @bkuhn on !faifcastJun 06 16:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks en El Faro | El Primer Periódico Digital Latinoamericano .::. Size~: 14.08 KBJun 06 16:06
ender_33is it really vista8?Jun 06 16:07
ender_33or is windowsphone8 for pcJun 06 16:07
MinceRlooks like vista7 + a kin7-like gui, only based on "html5"Jun 06 16:08
MinceR(and you can switch between the two guis)Jun 06 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 WikiLeaks: Inside the Saudi-fatwa against women drivers http://is.gd/v2cEY8Jun 06 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @karsten: European procurement reform more urgent than ever http://ur1.ca/4cuc9 !fs !gnuJun 06 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: Hopefully about to grab a word with Red Hat CEO Jim Whitehirst. He's gone back into a meeting but we did shake hands before.Jun 06 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The trend towards permissive licensing - http://bit.ly/kF5KwC lots of interesting graphs; #GPL declining but still dominates #opensourceJun 06 16:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Saudi Arabian women banned from driving because of fatwa against gender ‘mixing’ - BlogPost - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 99.13 KBJun 06 16:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Karsten on Free Software  » The European Commission’s locked-in syndrome .::. Size~: 42.11 KBJun 06 16:12
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DaemonFCMinceR, Because that's not confusing at allJun 06 16:13
ender_33what a great way to shove IE down everyones throatsJun 06 16:13
ender_33you can be sure that the UI uses IE for every web based elementJun 06 16:13
DaemonFCit's like Active Desktop on steroids Jun 06 16:14
ender_33oh godJun 06 16:14
ender_33active desktop was fucktardedJun 06 16:14
ender_33it deserves its own word tooJun 06 16:14
MinceRi think vista8 will make active desktop look goodJun 06 16:15
ender_33just like vista made millenium look goodJun 06 16:16
MinceRindeedJun 06 16:16
DaemonFCNetscape actually started itJun 06 16:17
DaemonFC:PJun 06 16:17
DaemonFCNetcasterJun 06 16:17
DaemonFCthey call it push technologyJun 06 16:17
MinceRthat was opt-in, thoughJun 06 16:17
DaemonFCit's more appropriate to call it shoveJun 06 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: Edited faifcast while sat in a corner at the Red Hat Partner Summit and uploaded it with conference wifi. Feels very outlaw :)Jun 06 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO ♺ @sixgun: Just released: Linux Outlaws 211 - Leave a Message After the Tone http://outl.ws/1m -- incl. music by @conniptions again :)Jun 06 16:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Outlaws 211 - Leave a Message After the Tone — we aim to misbehave .::. Size~: 13.72 KBJun 06 16:19
DaemonFCMinceR, It was possible to disable Active DesktopJun 06 16:19
DaemonFCand it was advisable tooJun 06 16:19
DaemonFCit leaked resources and caused Windows to crash more if you left it onJun 06 16:20
MinceRit was also possible to not install netcaster, wasn't it?Jun 06 16:20
DaemonFConly if you didn't install NetscapeJun 06 16:20
DaemonFCwhich is better than IE because there was no (official) way to remove itJun 06 16:20
MinceR:>Jun 06 16:20
DaemonFCand now there's no way at all, periodJun 06 16:20
DaemonFCYou can totally remove IE, every last trace, up to and including Windows XPJun 06 16:21
MinceRthat's the way i like to remove ieJun 06 16:21
DaemonFCbut if you do so, it will cause many applications to fail, anything that uses Trident to render the UI won't work at allJun 06 16:21
MinceRno, because if you also remove winblows xp, then those applications won't get an opportunity to failJun 06 16:22
DaemonFCafter Vista, you can remove IE the browser, but 98% of it stays behindJun 06 16:22
ender_33I never had netcaster force itself on meJun 06 16:22
DaemonFCbecause you'll fuck over the shell if you try to remove the coreJun 06 16:22
MinceR"Apology accepted, Captain Needa."Jun 06 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] WEBCAST on 06/22: Drive and #motivation with Daniel Pink http://red.ht/kvIOeN #innovation motivationJun 06 16:22
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DaemonFCwhen something says it can remove IE from Vista or 7, it means it can remove 2 MB of IE and break Windows in the processJun 06 16:22
DaemonFCso finally with Windows 8 it is totally impossible to remove any part of IEJun 06 16:23
DaemonFCbecause the Windows interface is IEJun 06 16:23
DaemonFCyuckJun 06 16:23
MinceRthey realized their life's goal a bit late :>Jun 06 16:24
DaemonFCmaking IE a part of the operating system is singlehandedly responsible for over 80% of Windows security flaws (at least if you count by patches, because it's proprietary and that's the only way to even guess)Jun 06 16:25
MinceR"Do you want no escape from IE? Buy vista8 now!"Jun 06 16:25
DaemonFCthe Server Core hilarity says Windows will be less vulnerable because there's less of itJun 06 16:26
DaemonFCwhich is actually trueJun 06 16:26
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 16:26
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DaemonFCif you like using cmd.exe as your user interface that isJun 06 16:26
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DaemonFCthat's the only officially supported way to rid yourself of IE now, Server CoreJun 06 16:27
MinceRi like having less of itJun 06 16:27
DaemonFCand you only have to pay (at least) $500 to use a gussied up DOS command interpreter as your UIJun 06 16:27
MinceRspecifically, the point when there's no m$ crap running on the server at allJun 06 16:27
MinceRsince none of it should be there in the first placeJun 06 16:28
DaemonFCWindows Server is totally backwardJun 06 16:28
MinceR"windows server" is an oxymoron :>Jun 06 16:28
DaemonFCin that they start with everything in Vista7 and then some, and then make you choose to have no features if you want better securityJun 06 16:28
DaemonFCand there's just nothing in betweenJun 06 16:29
MinceRmaybe they just want you to use the full crap versionJun 06 16:30
DaemonFCthe BSDs and Linux distributions have this wonderful concept of letting the user have as much or as little on the system as they wantJun 06 16:30
MinceRwhile having the fanboys to point at something (even though nobody uses it)Jun 06 16:30
DaemonFCand not only that, they get to choose what application does what taskJun 06 16:30
DaemonFCnovel concept right?Jun 06 16:30
MinceRletting the user have choices? that's quite the novel concept in redmond and cupertinoJun 06 16:30
DaemonFCIE mac was actually the best versionJun 06 16:31
DaemonFCyou could drag it to the trash and be rid of itJun 06 16:31
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DaemonFConce and for allJun 06 16:31
GoForbes28hiJun 06 16:31
GoForbes28hi schestowitzJun 06 16:31
MinceRhayJun 06 16:31
MinceRDaemonFC: i prefer ie for gnu+linux, because it doesn't existJun 06 16:32
DaemonFCI tried to load Netscape Communicator 4.8 for the hell of itJun 06 16:32
DaemonFCand I gave up after sorting out a dozen or so dependencies Jun 06 16:32
DaemonFCit does, via WineJun 06 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Wow.... You are hardcore-trolling @bkuhn today.... OoJun 06 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] German party invite sent out on Facebook ends Up With 1,500 Attendees (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/kahEalJun 06 16:32
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DaemonFCthat Angry Birds for Chrome is totally bogus, without an MP3 codec you can't even hear any of the sounds, and it's also too slow to use without hardware accelerationJun 06 16:33
DaemonFCso Firefox can just barely run itJun 06 16:33
DaemonFCit's really slow, and no soundJun 06 16:33
DaemonFC(not that MP3 belongs in html 5)Jun 06 16:34
MinceRwanting WebM to succeed, they might have just used Ogg Vorbis instead of MP3 :>Jun 06 16:34
ender_33windows server works, its just a resource hog for people who want to point and click manage their serverJun 06 16:35
MinceRit works for the botnetsJun 06 16:35
ender_33source?Jun 06 16:35
GoForbes28http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5836/196/Jun 06 16:35
TechrightsBot-tr@: Jun 06 16:35
MinceRthose millions of winblows vulnerability reportsJun 06 16:35
DaemonFCI'm a Windows Server, and spam botnets were my ideaJun 06 16:35
ender_33that xp and vista and 7Jun 06 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] just found out - NTU's email system for students is via m$ live. disappointed.Jun 06 16:35
MinceRlearn how to use web search enginesJun 06 16:36
GoForbes28"A new report finds that Canadian government departments are hoarding hundreds of patents and copyrights each year in violation of the government's own IP policy.Jun 06 16:36
GoForbes28"Jun 06 16:36
ender_33what about serverJun 06 16:36
DaemonFCI told Microsoft it would be great to have gigabit ethernet connected boxesJun 06 16:36
MinceRserver is same as the others, with different defaultsJun 06 16:36
DaemonFCand they listened Jun 06 16:36
MinceRand name, and pricingJun 06 16:36
GoForbes28lol Windows ServerJun 06 16:36
schestowitzhi GoForbes28Jun 06 16:36
ender_33well provide a source for your windows server factsJun 06 16:36
GoForbes28see the Geist article schestowitz?Jun 06 16:36
schestowitzjust got back from riding, back in a moment, need to washJun 06 16:36
ender_33i could set one up so that it only executes binaries in a whitelistJun 06 16:36
MinceRwowJun 06 16:37
MinceRyesterday a marxist, today a m$ shillJun 06 16:37
DaemonFCyou can do that with LinuxJun 06 16:37
schestowitzhaven't had the change yet.. bb in 10 minsJun 06 16:37
DaemonFCfile permissionsJun 06 16:37
ender_33go fuck yourselfJun 06 16:37
MinceRender_33 surprises me every dayJun 06 16:37
ender_33only idiots have issues with virusesJun 06 16:37
GoForbes28Windows Server is like Glass Cement BlockJun 06 16:37
MinceRonly idiots run winblows on serversJun 06 16:37
ender_33again, only idiots have issues with virusesJun 06 16:37
GoForbes28indeedJun 06 16:37
DaemonFCGoForbes28, White Elephant Server 2008 R2Jun 06 16:37
GoForbes28yepJun 06 16:38
ender_33but for mincer, 'it randomly crashes'Jun 06 16:38
GoForbes28it's smaller than regular windows, and somehow manages to still be bloatedJun 06 16:38
DaemonFCI have yet to crash Fedora 15Jun 06 16:38
DaemonFCeven with FGLRX runningJun 06 16:38
ender_33its not being an m$ shill to point out how wrong you areJun 06 16:38
DaemonFC*seriously impressed*Jun 06 16:38
ender_33it does not help when you lie about stuffJun 06 16:38
GoForbes28MinceR: You are big meanie poopy head!Jun 06 16:38
GoForbes28lolJun 06 16:39
MinceRapparently in enderland winblows is rock solid and uncrackableJun 06 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So now I have my new £5 keyboard and already I'm regretting my false economy :(Jun 06 16:39
ender_33i never said it wasJun 06 16:39
MinceRi wonder if he's allowed to export Windows Server Magic EditionJun 06 16:39
GoForbes28MinceR: More like CandylandJun 06 16:39
ender_33im saying its more secure than xp vista and 7Jun 06 16:39
DaemonFCMinceR, Their "professional" stuff is less crappy than their home user stuffJun 06 16:39
DaemonFCbut not by muchJun 06 16:39
GoForbes28ender_33: wow, a great benchmark!Jun 06 16:39
ender_33if you arent an idiot, you can make it as secure as you need itJun 06 16:40
GoForbes28ender_33: I'm in better shape than Stephen HawkingsJun 06 16:40
MinceRthat's like saying this turd is more blue than that other turdJun 06 16:40
MinceRyes, i can make a winblows server as secure as i need itJun 06 16:40
GoForbes28ender_33: I'm still out of shapeJun 06 16:40
MinceRby wiping winblows from itJun 06 16:40
ender_33stop being a lying zealot, it doesnt help the fsf movement if you have to lie to convert people to linuxJun 06 16:40
ender_33i prefer linux over windowsJun 06 16:40
MinceRwow, now you care about the "fsf movement"?Jun 06 16:40
ender_33the fsf has a lot of issuesJun 06 16:40
MinceRwasn't it you, the zealous "capitalist" that called them "communists"?Jun 06 16:40
GoForbes28ender_33: DRM isn't a virus?Jun 06 16:40
ender_33one of them could be to stop lyingJun 06 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Great interview with Reid Fleming creator David Boswell http://www.comicsreporter.com/ http://ur1.ca/4cvgiJun 06 16:41
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GoForbes28ender_33: Regular people don't do computer maintenanceJun 06 16:41
DaemonFCMinceR, Want to know something funny? Insurance companies won't pay out if you get stuff from your car stolen and the doors were unlocked. You're supposed to lock the doors so they can do $300 more damage getting in to steal all your shitJun 06 16:41
DaemonFCcool huh?Jun 06 16:41
DaemonFClocking your car doors is like going from XP to 7 for better securityJun 06 16:41
GoForbes28yepJun 06 16:41
GoForbes287 isn't more secureJun 06 16:41
MinceRDaemonFC: then again, it's a silly idea to leave the doors unlocked so that the thief has an easier time and doesn't damage your car that much :>Jun 06 16:41
GoForbes28and has had a billion other problemsJun 06 16:42
ender_33goforbes28 - never heard of DRM which replicated itself across pc's, hardware and drivesJun 06 16:42
GoForbes28icons blanking outJun 06 16:42
GoForbes28ender_33: Sony DRM was a rootkitJun 06 16:42
ender_33did it self replicate? noJun 06 16:42
ender_33not a virusJun 06 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @windigo @fabsh For every episode I listen to, you release two. O_OJun 06 16:42
GoForbes28so what?Jun 06 16:42
ender_33it was a rootkitJun 06 16:42
ender_33get the terms rightJun 06 16:42
GoForbes28Yeah, which never would have happened on GNU+LinuxJun 06 16:42
GoForbes28it doesn't matter anymoreJun 06 16:43
ender_33I bet you could infect an idiot ubuntu user with somethingJun 06 16:43
DaemonFCMinceR, When I'm elected to (insert office here) my first goal will be to legalize flame throwers mounted under the car. Like they have in African countries to roast carjackers with.Jun 06 16:43
ender_33probably a .net virusJun 06 16:43
GoForbes28ender_33: I'll go to their house and cough all over themJun 06 16:43
DaemonFCaccording to jono the virus porting framework in Ubuntu is completely safeJun 06 16:44
DaemonFC(Mono)Jun 06 16:44
ender_33you could give them something that would erase their own home directory and leave the rest of the machine aloneJun 06 16:44
ender_33there are also rootkits that exist in linux tooJun 06 16:44
GoForbes28ender_33 uh huhJun 06 16:44
ender_33they just didnt come with a music cdJun 06 16:44
GoForbes28ender_33 wiping the home directory vs. wiping everythingJun 06 16:45
MinceRthey also don't install automaticallyJun 06 16:45
DaemonFCMinceR, If someone steals my CDs out of my car do you figure I can sue them for $50,000 a song like the RIAA does?Jun 06 16:45
GoForbes28nobody here says GNU+Linux is perfectly secure, because nothing isJun 06 16:45
DaemonFCif not, why not?Jun 06 16:45
DaemonFC:DJun 06 16:45
MinceRDaemonFC: because you aren't as rich as the companies behind the MAFIAAJun 06 16:45
ender_33goforbes28 - exactly, some zealots say linux is completely secure from all of the issues on windowsJun 06 16:46
GoForbes28ender_33: I would disagree with that then yesJun 06 16:46
GoForbes28ender_33: At the same time, I recognize that Windows is a poorly made productJun 06 16:47
GoForbes28In car termsJun 06 16:47
ender_33it is a poorly made productJun 06 16:47
GoForbes28Windows is a 1990Jun 06 16:47
ender_33it is resource hungry and it limits what you can doJun 06 16:47
GoForbes28yepJun 06 16:47
DaemonFCNumber of years using Linux regularly, 13 Number of Linux viruses encountered, 0 | Years using Windows regularly, 16, number of viruses that I know about that I was infected with, 2. Number of viruses I have cleaned off other people's PCs, lost countJun 06 16:47
GoForbes28and it is unsecureJun 06 16:47
ender_33however for some people, they need it because they aren't too smart with computersJun 06 16:47
DaemonFCI think for me the Linux is more secure thing makes senseJun 06 16:47
GoForbes28ender_33: yepJun 06 16:48
ender_33windows server is for those people who want to point and click manage their serversJun 06 16:48
GoForbes28ender_33: Wanna go for coffee/tea sometime? :PJun 06 16:48
ender_33some would rather hand hack config filesJun 06 16:48
ender_33goforbes28 where do you liveJun 06 16:48
GoForbes28Ottawa ValleyJun 06 16:48
DaemonFCof course, I brought one of those on myself (warez site in IE, dumb)Jun 06 16:48
ender_33HamiltonJun 06 16:49
GoForbes28I didn't mean immediately, since I think you are near the GTA, right?Jun 06 16:49
ender_33lolJun 06 16:49
GoForbes28yeahJun 06 16:49
DaemonFCthe other one was an infected game demo (SiN)Jun 06 16:49
ender_33we should thoughJun 06 16:49
DaemonFCthat one was Chernobyl Jun 06 16:49
GoForbes28Let's set a mutual TBD dateJun 06 16:49
ender_33always nice to meet linux peopleJun 06 16:49
GoForbes28ender_33: In Almonte, I suppose I'm one of the fewJun 06 16:49
GoForbes28I ran Windows 7 as a sacrificeJun 06 16:50
GoForbes28so I have first hand knowledge of what a POS it isJun 06 16:50
ender_33ill have to get back to you cause my gf actually wanted to go to ottawa tooJun 06 16:50
DaemonFCMinceR, How likely do you figure it is that something like Chernobyl could happen to Linux?Jun 06 16:50
GoForbes28ender_33: SureJun 06 16:50
ender_33i've worked with windows in my career, thats why i hate it so muchJun 06 16:50
GoForbes28I'll take a rain checkJun 06 16:50
DaemonFCyou know, flashes the BIOS with junk repeatedly while zeroing out your boot sectorJun 06 16:50
MinceR174149 < ender_33> goforbes28 - exactly, some zealots say linux is completely secure from all of the issues on windowsJun 06 16:50
DaemonFCwithout warningJun 06 16:50
MinceRwho said that?Jun 06 16:50
DaemonFClike Windows lets happenJun 06 16:50
GoForbes28mincer: Ignorant peopleJun 06 16:50
ender_33mincer - go do a google search and fuck offJun 06 16:50
GoForbes28MinceR: I've seen a few blog posts  which make that assertionJun 06 16:51
MinceRender_33: you're the one who needs to do a google search and fuck offJun 06 16:51
ender_33mincer - eat meJun 06 16:51
MinceRGoForbes28: i will not be held accountable for statements made in others' blogsJun 06 16:51
ender_33goforbes28 - I plan to go up near ottawa to meet Glen Kealey tooJun 06 16:51
ender_33no idea whenJun 06 16:51
DaemonFCmeet up with Glenn BeckJun 06 16:51
ender_33Mincer - so you say you're the only zealot?Jun 06 16:52
DaemonFCtell him Obama is a ReptilianJun 06 16:52
DaemonFChe was actually born on VenusJun 06 16:52
MinceRender_33: you need to learn english first, then you'll understandJun 06 16:52
MinceRif you're capable of learning the language, that isJun 06 16:52
GoForbes28"In the wake of the UN report which described disconnecting citizens from the Internet as a breach of human rights, an anti-piracy group has made a somewhat surprising statement. Music Industry Piracy Investigations, which acts for dozens of labels including the Big Four, today said that while they support measures for dealing with infringement, that does not include ?termination of Internet accounts.?"Jun 06 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Another thunderstorm over !Bonn. I'm slowly losing my fear of these things....Jun 06 16:52
ender_33some zealots = mincerJun 06 16:52
DaemonFCand refuses to hand over his Venusian birth certificateJun 06 16:52
ender_33good to knowJun 06 16:52
GoForbes28backtrack! damage control!Jun 06 16:52
ender_33that must mean you're a blimpJun 06 16:53
GoForbes28That'd be funJun 06 16:53
ender_33DaemonFC - venusian? playing stellar frontier?Jun 06 16:53
GoForbes28flying around everywhereJun 06 16:53
GoForbes28lolJun 06 16:53
GoForbes28"CRTC Launches Online Consultation on Wholesale Internet Services"Jun 06 16:53
DaemonFCWhen he goes to his recharging pod he steps out of his black kenyan muslim disguiseJun 06 16:54
GoForbes28My submission: they are terrible and you are corruptJun 06 16:54
DaemonFCand becomes an 8 tentacle greeen blobJun 06 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: The #Qt Blog - Hack for a cause at (H)Activate London - Qt developers who want to make a difference ha... http://ow.ly/1d51aBJun 06 16:54
ender_33DaemonFC - LOLzJun 06 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Awesome rolling thunder.....Jun 06 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Palin Fans Trying to Edit #Wikipedia #PaulRevere Page http://is.gd/mb8AzLJun 06 16:54
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ender_33Paul Revere :)Jun 06 16:54
ender_33he has an awesome networkJun 06 16:54
ender_33oh im thinking of another revereJun 06 16:55
DaemonFCClick here to Follow Paul Revere. #Brits coming to take #guns, hide children or they will eat them.Jun 06 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Looks like the little kitty has a home to go to. Damn it. I'd really liked having a cat.Jun 06 16:55
GoForbes28Big guns augment what men lack naturallyJun 06 16:56
DaemonFCGoForbes28, Quit being a Freudian Jun 06 16:57
DaemonFCsometimes a cigar is just a cigarJun 06 16:57
schestowitz[16:35] <GoForbes28> http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5836/196/Jun 06 16:57
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 16:57
GoForbes28like security addons to Microsoft Windows.Jun 06 16:57
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MinceRGoForbes28: ability to fire projectiles? :>Jun 06 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #OCLC, WorldCat Rights and Responsibilities, and Open Data Licensing - http://bit.ly/mKhOXE do I detect a teensy-weensy battle here?Jun 06 16:57
MinceRsolid projectiles, that isJun 06 16:57
GoForbes28DDOS Cannon?Jun 06 16:57
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MinceRnot DDoSJun 06 16:58
GoForbes28schestowitz: I also did a huge wiki clean up yesterdayJun 06 16:58
schestowitzyes, I mentioned this in identicaJun 06 17:00
schestowitzDid you see?Jun 06 17:00
schestowitzI really appreciate it!!Jun 06 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Poland: A 'Stakhanovite' at the EU's helm? - http://bit.ly/jWNyUm unfortunately, that mining reference seems to mean #frackingJun 06 17:01
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DaemonFCCommand & Conquer: Generals is so deliciously racistJun 06 17:02
DaemonFC:PJun 06 17:02
DaemonFCit's actually kind of funnyJun 06 17:02
MinceRit's probably intentionalJun 06 17:02
ender_33LOLJun 06 17:03
ender_33that game was fun thoughJun 06 17:03
DaemonFCyeahJun 06 17:03
DaemonFCespecially the Chinese nuclear attackJun 06 17:03
DaemonFCall the USA had was that stupid orbital ion cannon Jun 06 17:03
ender_33I liked the space laserJun 06 17:03
DaemonFClameJun 06 17:03
ender_33generals zero hour had laser tanksJun 06 17:04
DaemonFCender_33, On the last mission playing China I heavily fortified my base to buy time to install several nuclear missile silos Jun 06 17:04
DaemonFCand then I just ended the whole thing by nuking the other baseJun 06 17:05
ender_33niceJun 06 17:05
DaemonFCqt 4.8 is in kde-redhat-unstableJun 06 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada Objections against the Memory Card Levy must be filed by JULY 13, 2011 http://ur1.ca/4cvl2 > new incarnation of #iPODtax !cdnpoliJun 06 17:07
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GoForbes28schestowitz: I haven't been on IdenticaJun 06 17:08
ender_33DaemonFC - I loved capturing enemy bases and using all the technology available to meJun 06 17:09
ender_33I would nuke, laser and use toxinsJun 06 17:10
DaemonFCender_33, the US tanks were kind of funJun 06 17:10
DaemonFCto swarm withJun 06 17:10
ender_33the laser ones yesJun 06 17:10
ender_3312 could wipe out any baseJun 06 17:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] a fantasy role playing game .. or hacking free software? you decide! slaying daemons: http://pusling.com/blog/?p=200Jun 06 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] WSJ: US Probes Tech Patent Deals http://ur1.ca/4cvnf US DOJ finally seeing #swpat as threat to competition? (http://ur1.ca/4cvni w/o sub)Jun 06 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UN declares access to Internet a human right http://is.gd/pqJS6IJun 06 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Ebay Buys Magento To Boost Small Business E-Commerce Services - http://bit.ly/mzDsTy another #opensource company gets boughtJun 06 17:11
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ender_33I wonder if we've set off echelonJun 06 17:11
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DaemonFCcarnivoreJun 06 17:12
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] .@OStatic opines on Fedora 15: http://2tu.us/3cwpJun 06 17:12
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GoForbes28schestowitz: When did you post the dent?Jun 06 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Rocking out to Gov't Mule.Jun 06 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @conservancy A profile of & interview w/ @bkuhn, !Conservancy's Executive Director: http://ur1.ca/4cux7. It mentions recent !Mercuria ...Jun 06 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] CC Talks With: Pete Forsyth and the Wikimedia Public Policy Initiative - http://goo.gl/oWXxgJun 06 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @kuro The difference between reality and fiction? Fiction has to make sense. - Tom Clancy !q !humor !identiverse !effJun 06 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bob Crow... bloody good bloke.Jun 06 17:26
GoForbes28DaemonFC: What OS are you running again?Jun 06 17:28
DaemonFCFedora 15 with KDEJun 06 17:28
DaemonFCI just slapped in the QT 4.8 technical preview Jun 06 17:29
DaemonFCit is very fast, but qtwebkit is not all that stableJun 06 17:30
DaemonFChaven't found any other issues with it yetJun 06 17:30
GoForbes28ahJun 06 17:30
ender_33how are the ati drivers daemonfcJun 06 17:32
DaemonFCterabyte hard drives are dirt cheap, there's no real excuse not to have a proper build environment Jun 06 17:32
DaemonFCI found that often, Ubuntu's build tools were badly broken and unusable Jun 06 17:32
DaemonFCI have to wonder how THEY use themJun 06 17:32
DaemonFCender_33, free of nonfree?Jun 06 17:32
DaemonFC*orJun 06 17:32
DaemonFCthe free ones are very stable, Dave Airlie backported a lot of things to their 2.6.38 kernel so it will allow things like compressed textures where Ubuntu will notJun 06 17:33
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 17:33
DaemonFCthe nonfree ones as packaged by RPM Fusion are also pretty stable and fastJun 06 17:34
DaemonFCwhichever one you choose you shouldn't have problems with it crashing your system for no reason like Ubuntu doesJun 06 17:34
DaemonFCUbuntu's free ati stack is such garbage Jun 06 17:34
DaemonFCjust run a glxinfo and see that all the compressed texture formats are missingJun 06 17:35
DaemonFCthen maximize a flash video and watch the kernel panicJun 06 17:35
DaemonFCthat doesn't happen in FedoraJun 06 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Just had a look at Fedora 15 and its Gnome DE...hate iit....really hate it.Jun 06 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Why do people think that softening a distro is something EVERYONE wants?Jun 06 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] FAIL: Microsoft accidentally announces Halo 4 ahead of E3 keynote http://outl.ws/1nJun 06 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] In a little while apple_fanbois will be telling the world how they've learnt a new word today. Lion. Along with something calledJun 06 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Github is Gaining Based on Proprietary Data http://is.gd/drn7Fl !fsf #gitJun 06 17:36
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DaemonFCender_33, You can fix most of the damage on Ubuntu if you want to build your own kernel, play patch monkey and use daily untested git builds of MesaJun 06 17:36
DaemonFCif you want to do that, knock yourself outJun 06 17:36
DaemonFCI'm sure jono just uses a blob since he doesn't care about free software :)Jun 06 17:36
DaemonFChe sets an example with his really big blob, it is called Windows 7Jun 06 17:36
koolhead17hello worldJun 06 17:37
DaemonFCI assume jono runs Ubuntu in VMware and just maximizes it whenever he needs to take a screenshotJun 06 17:37
ender_33daemonfc - good to know ati works well with fedoraJun 06 17:38
DaemonFCvery wellJun 06 17:39
ender_33ill probably grab an ati card this weekJun 06 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gods I hate it when self-important arsehole journalists say "we" when they mean "I". /barfJun 06 17:39
ender_33on friday/paydayJun 06 17:39
DaemonFCUbuntu's extensive and incompetent patching is just everywhere nowJun 06 17:39
DaemonFCit's not worth bothering with it because you'll just trip over bugs somewhere else laterJun 06 17:40
DaemonFCdon't base your opinion of the ati drivers on what Ubuntu does or you'll be disappointed Jun 06 17:40
DaemonFCMandriva reached a point where their whole distro fell apart on them because they did most of what Ubuntu is doing nowJun 06 17:42
DaemonFCthey never forked an entire desktop thoughJun 06 17:42
DaemonFCthat one is just hilarious Jun 06 17:42
ender_33yeahJun 06 17:42
ender_33unity, lolJun 06 17:42
ender_33that's doublethinkJun 06 17:42
DaemonFCMageia sounds like they're doing a great job cleaning up the mess Mandriva left and polishing it upJun 06 17:43
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 17:43
DaemonFCI may try it out when they really get it into gear with v 2Jun 06 17:43
ender_33I might try v1Jun 06 17:43
ender_33I noticed it contained chromiumJun 06 17:43
DaemonFCFedora has sanitized builds of ChromiumJun 06 17:44
DaemonFCit uses native libraries where possible for exampleJun 06 17:44
ender_33yeah it doesJun 06 17:44
ender_33SpotJun 06 17:44
DaemonFCyeajJun 06 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110606 #sip_and_clickJun 06 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] In a little while apple_fanbois will be telling the world how they've learnt a few new words today. "L.I.O.N." & "OTA syncing". All MAGICALJun 06 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh "noone mention Windows 8, I think it may have slipped out there but I think I got away with it" Basil BallmerJun 06 17:44
DaemonFC*yeahJun 06 17:44
ender_33Tom CallawayJun 06 17:44
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ender_33he builds thoseJun 06 17:44
DaemonFCChromium has no intention of ever being distro friendlyJun 06 17:44
ender_33he also screams at google to fix itJun 06 17:44
DaemonFCbecause they don't want to be Jun 06 17:44
DaemonFCthey're an upstream for ChromeJun 06 17:45
DaemonFCGoogle wants you to use Chrome which is packed full of spywareJun 06 17:45
DaemonFCChromium's default behavior is at least not much worse than Firefox'sJun 06 17:45
DaemonFCby that I mean, it doesn't leak your private info as badly as Chrome does, in the default configurationJun 06 17:46
DaemonFCand crap like Adobe Reader isn't there Jun 06 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Aslett: The trend towards permissive licensing http://lwn.net/Articles/446263/rssJun 06 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @thistleweb: @fabsh "noone mention Windows 8, I think it may have slipped out there but I think I got away with it" Basil BallmerJun 06 17:47
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ender_33yeah exactlyJun 06 17:47
DaemonFChe can shout as loud as he want,s the issues are being added faster than they are being fixedJun 06 17:47
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DaemonFCsame boat as Adblock Plus bug reportsJun 06 17:48
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/75563788   <<< :-)Jun 06 17:48
TechrightsBot-tr@G. Forbes (goforbes28)'s status on Monday, 06-Jun-11 16:12:38 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz No problem! :)Jun 06 17:48
GoForbes28daemonfc: what does adobe reader have to with anything?Jun 06 17:48
DaemonFCtons of security holes, and it's nonfreeJun 06 17:49
DaemonFCand comes with its own EULAJun 06 17:49
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 17:49
DaemonFCjust off the top of my headJun 06 17:49
DaemonFCa browser that claims to have great security and throws in Flash and Adobe Reader as mandatory plugins?Jun 06 17:50
DaemonFCI mean, riiiiiightJun 06 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] The Register is Distorting Authors’ Headlines http://is.gd/TY0SeO #neon #ibm #mainframe #linux ##fud #theregisterJun 06 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Register is Distorting Authors’ Headlines http://is.gd/TY0SeO #fud #server #deception #journalism #churnalismJun 06 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 I'm not sure... I'm looking into it right now.Jun 06 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hello !identiverse :)Jun 06 17:51
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DaemonFCPDF is not bad, Adobe's PDF software isJun 06 17:51
DaemonFCyou can create, edit, and read PDF without any Adobe softwareJun 06 17:51
DaemonFCso why have Adobe software?Jun 06 17:51
GoForbes28DaemonFC: oh chromium vs. chomeJun 06 17:51
GoForbes28I see nowJun 06 17:51
GoForbes28I thought you meant in Firefox :PJun 06 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Ready for Firefox 6? Here's What's on the Way http://bit.ly/kHiVV3Jun 06 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Ryan Giggs -Top 11 Goals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p934hi4s0oI !MUFCJun 06 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Dear Arse Technica: the fact that EHEC is resistant to antibiotics doesn't really matter as you don't actually use antibiotics in curing it.Jun 06 17:52
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DaemonFCI actually like PDF, but Adobe PDF software is the Windows Vista of PDF softwareJun 06 17:53
DaemonFCyou know, 10 times bigger than it should be and full of holesJun 06 17:53
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Chips_B_MalroyHello Roy, you got your ears on?Jun 06 17:57
Chips_B_MalroyJust wondering if you seen my rant last night on Nokia/Elop/Ballmer/WP7 etc.Jun 06 17:59
Chips_B_MalroyComing to an IRC channel near youJun 06 17:59
DaemonFCkamoso is packaged in Fedora now :)Jun 06 18:00
Chips_B_MalroyIt is possible that the MS Board is not behind Ballmer 100% as they like to pretend it is.Jun 06 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I read using anbiotics actually releases more toxins?Jun 06 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I meant to ask; is this real a big economic deal for Germany? We're being told it is on BBC radio4, but is famring really that ..Jun 06 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh .. big thereJun 06 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Not sure about specifics of this, but blatant promotion of Facebook and Twitter by gov't and news def bothers me: http://ur1.ca/4cvzoJun 06 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Does anybody have an old PC case in their closet or something that they want to get rid of? It's time i started keeping a backup of my filesJun 06 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] In private discussion "open to be seen" is regarded as 1 possible meaning of "open". To me "open to be seen" is only pornographyJun 06 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] here's a direct link to the Reid Fleming interview http://ur1.ca/4cvze /via @mariaboz http://ur1.ca/4cw0wJun 06 18:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 It seems !Canada just needs to email Gilles McDougall to object to the #Digital #Memory #Levy http://ur1.ca/4cvl2 !cdnpoliJun 06 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This is how you do a game teaser in style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNpfL1XdHpE -- I wanna play this shit! #ColonialMarinesJun 06 18:17
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schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: hiJun 06 18:18
schestowitzI made a post with your commentsJun 06 18:18
schestowitzBut no time to post it until lateJun 06 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada !Copyright Board #Digital #Memory #Levy will increase by 29¢ ea. CD-R CD-RW CD-R Audio or CD-RW http://ur1.ca/4cvl2 !cdnpoliJun 06 18:19
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schestowitzGates seems to support BallmerJun 06 18:19
schestowitzAnd for anyone at the board to not agree would come with risk to oneselfJun 06 18:19
schestowitzIt's a yesmen boardJun 06 18:19
schestowitzOr "no comment"Jun 06 18:19
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Chips_B_MalroyYes, but it does seem that the no comment comment is a sign of discontentJun 06 18:22
_Goblinhi Chips!Jun 06 18:22
Chips_B_MalroyHey GoblinJun 06 18:22
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/schestowitz/status/77774680035041280Jun 06 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: #Github is Gaining Based on Proprietary Data  http://is.gd/drn7Fl #foss #openlogic #blackduck #redmonk #sourceforge #gplJun 06 18:22
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schestowitzgot an update on it..Jun 06 18:23
Chips_B_MalroyBallmer keeps his job by doing exactly what Gates wants him to do.  There is no difference between Ballmer and Gates.Jun 06 18:23
Chips_B_MalroyGates maybe a little nastier and smarter than Ballmer, but that is all.Jun 06 18:24
Chips_B_MalroySorry for such a late night rant last night, should have done it when people were awake to read it.Jun 06 18:25
Chips_B_MalroyAnd the techeye sight with Nick Farrell has a bit of humor on that site, so you may not want to use them for source.Jun 06 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada !Copyright Board #Digital #Memory #Levy Increase Memory Cards 50¢-$3.00 subsidize !copyright Industry http://ur1.ca/4cvl2 !cdnpoliJun 06 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I anticipate problems for #Apple buying #Nortel's patent portfolio. [nudging Google] Isn't it time to get rid of #swpats?Jun 06 18:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Apple introduces the "Auto-Save" feature to the world. AMAZING, SIMPLY AMAZING. Now you can be even more dumb. BOO YEAH !!!!!!!!!!!Jun 06 18:29
Chips_B_MalroyMaybe this is the first chink in the board's thinking on Ballmer's performance.Jun 06 18:29
Chips_B_MalroyAt least in public.Jun 06 18:29
Chips_B_MalroyPerhaps the internal discord reaches all the way to the top at Microsoft.Jun 06 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How to succeed in IT without really trying (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/lmcnL5Jun 06 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Lawyer's mission: to create value for clients by reducing legal friction. Not to create value for self by increasing friction.Jun 06 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why must citizens of !Canada subsidize Canadian Private Copying Collective (music) for storage devices we use for digital photos? !cdnpoliJun 06 18:31
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schestowitzBallmer is not the key personJun 06 18:32
schestowitzAnd the company is a zombie anywayJun 06 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] After 1 month and 3 days my Dell laptop has moved from preparing for production to in production, and they say the tech world moves quickly.Jun 06 18:32
schestowitzI don't care too much about their leadership. They really need to be put on trialJun 06 18:32
schestowitzThey are violating the RICO ActJun 06 18:32
schestowitzWhat's it there for?Jun 06 18:32
Chips_B_Malroybut its still a huge zombie, one with massive desktop user shareJun 06 18:33
Chips_B_MalroyLaws are made to be selectively enforced for the super rich.Jun 06 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why must children of !Canada subsidize Canadian Private Copying Collective (music) 4 storage devices used 2 take school work home? !cdnpoliJun 06 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ♺ @edd: Nominations are open open for the O'Reilly Open Source Awards 2011 http://edd.me/jJOMA6 #osconJun 06 18:34
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Chips_B_MalroyOr at least so it seems.Jun 06 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ♺ @edd: Mike Loukides explains why we're doing OSCON Java this year http://edd.me/kHvdU2 #osconj < open source is the heartbeat of JavaJun 06 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why must !Canada's independent creators subsidize Canadian Private Copying Collective (music) 4 media used to create original work? !cdnpoliJun 06 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ZDNet: Hackers exploiting Flash Player XSS vulnerability http://zd.net/kpvRID #securityJun 06 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Objections to #MemoryCard #Levy must be filed by JULY 13, 2011 http://ur1.ca/4cvl2 > new incarnation of #iPODtax !cdnpoliJun 06 18:39
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Chips_B_MalroyThe racketeering by Gates/Ballmer, will not stop until they start losing some of the Android cases or Google sues them.Jun 06 18:39
Chips_B_MalroyThe court system here is corrupt and I do not see any short term solution with the courts coming out against software patents.  Unlikely.Jun 06 18:41
Chips_B_MalroyWe can still hope.Jun 06 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @carlopiana: I anticipate problems for #Apple buying #Nortel's patent portfolio. [nudging Google] Isn't it time to get rid of #swpats?Jun 06 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] National Academies Press makes entire imprint available for download as free PDFs: http://wmk.me/kgMhprJun 06 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ron_miller: RT @Gartenberg: Mac sales are 73% notebooks, 27% desktops. Note that trendJun 06 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] One more reason to love Google http://bit.ly/lP4m8OJun 06 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] To clarify, !RedHat has expanded to hire more developers from #Apache -oriented cultures + past artificial pro- !GPL policies relaxedJun 06 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 7 iunie, aniversarea Principelui Radu al României http://is.gd/fpS8J7 #romania #monarchyJun 06 18:54
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Chips_B_MalroyRoy>  did you get that bike?Jun 06 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Manifestul Regal „Monarhia [...] limitează formal setea de putere a politicienilor” http://is.gd/hYUdpD #romania #monarchyJun 06 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Could the PSN and Playstation Store really be back up? OoJun 06 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Allowing people to share their own works is not against copyright, it's its highest incarnation, should be the natural ... http://b1t.it/mdjJun 06 19:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to "Raw Power" #musicJun 06 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Highest Form of Flattery - http://slate.me/jW3ZAA #counterfeiting - like #piracy - may help drive sales #businessmodelsJun 06 19:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fake Prada bags: Why counterfeits help high-end designers sell more of the real thing. - By Ray Fisman - Slate Magazine .::. Size~: 52.68 KBJun 06 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] did the #London #2012 #Olympic people violate #Madhoff's patents on convoluted ticket sales scams?Jun 06 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jetz ma ganz ehrlich... Wen interessieren die verfickten MTV Movie Awards? Echt jetzt.... Sat.1 "News". News am Arsch!Jun 06 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @charlietca1 Ever tried to figure out KDE versions? there is no KDE 5 - http://vizzzion.org/blog/2011/06/there-is-no-kde5/ !xubuntu ! ...Jun 06 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody The Highest Form of Flattery - http://slate.me/jW3ZAA #counterfeiting - like #piracy - may help drive sales #businessmodelsJun 06 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] apparently, a 23% chance of rain means that it will be a wet motorcycle ride to workJun 06 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jezra 1% chance can mean the same :DJun 06 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Senator Schumer Says #Bitcoin Is Money Laundering - http://bit.ly/kTJBcJ well, that didn't take long #digitalmoneyJun 06 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana LOL! :DJun 06 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @SinkDeep not that you need #bitcoins LOL http://bit.ly/k8LOP9 >>who need #bitcoins for money laundering when you've got US #banks?Jun 06 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @ravenonline: Wo kann man das #apple Zeug morgen sachlich und konzentriert nachlesen. Also ohne quasireligiöse Untertöne und kritisch.Jun 06 19:29
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MinceRhttp://abstrusegoose.com/370Jun 06 19:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Animal brands as intellectual assets - http://bit.ly/mxd7Ny animal *brands*? has the whole world gone insane? (v @howardknopf)Jun 06 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] iCloud? iCloud??? Muwhahahahahahahahaha! Hahahahahahaha! Hahaha! Hahahahahahahahaha!Jun 06 19:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! After years of Android mooning iOS with over the air updates, "PC free" is now a feature for Apple??? LOL!!! You suckers! Hahahahaha!Jun 06 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] iOS is #1 Mobile Operating System, Says #Apple - http://rww.to/mwXimE interesting it couldn't say *iPhone* leading mobile, no? #androidJun 06 19:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I wonder if Apple will come to regret their "deep Twitter integration". Twitter is even more megalomanically insane then them...Jun 06 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] International Anti-Piracy Caucus Publishes - http://bit.ly/k1eYyJ so who cares a jot? #copyrightJun 06 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL!!!! ♺ @m3tti: pixel shrooms damn cool !metal song about mushrooms XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnsfRWaDL-E# !loJun 06 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Apple Copies Android, Introduces Pull-Down Notifications in iOS 5 - http://bit.ly/mstJS1 so it's only fair if Google sues, no?Jun 06 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ofcom and #BBC #DRM: further FoI requests - http://bit.ly/jibwSv bravoJun 06 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/446266/rssJun 06 19:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The question is what is the worse name: MobileMe or iCloud? And will iCloud continue to suck monkey balls?Jun 06 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bankrupt #Lehman Brothers May Face Public Rebuke and Little Else - http://bit.ly/kivdOU oooh, that's so *harsh*Jun 06 19:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Watching #DerLetzteBulle. I love this show! :DJun 06 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @newbintraining: Gee, I wonder where they stole that idea from http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/06/notifiction-center-for-ios-5-announced/Jun 06 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "I sense a disturbance in the Force, hmmmmm, oh, it's just the sound of a million #Apple fanbois cumming in their pants at once" lolJun 06 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Der Gerichtsmediziner is so ein Vollsponk! #DerLetzteBulleJun 06 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The music in this series is FUCKING AMAZING! #DerLetzteBulleJun 06 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "If you like Piña Coladas...."Jun 06 19:54
schestowitz[18:39] <Chips_B_Malroy> The racketeering by Gates/Ballmer, will not stop until they start losing some of the Android cases or Google sues them.Jun 06 19:55
schestowitzIt ain't Google's styleJun 06 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Schon wieder ein Puff......" - Der Letzte BulleJun 06 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Apparently #Bada is still being kept alive and under further development. http://ur1.ca/4cwlw Article doesn't explain why. #samsungJun 06 19:56
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schestowitz[18:55] <Chips_B_Malroy> Roy>  did you get that bike?  < which one?  I got this... http://www.evanscycles.com/products/charge/steamer-2011-hybrid-bike-ec025583?query=steamerJun 06 19:56
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schestowitzThere's already stuff in need of repair because I rode a lotJun 06 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Apple announces...... Crap. IN THE CLOUD!!! #iTunesInTheCloudJun 06 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] HAMMERTIME! on #DerLetzteBulle :DJun 06 19:57
Chips_B_MalroyThis would be a cruizer type of bike?  Good for commuting, or just riding.Jun 06 20:02
Chips_B_Malroy3 speedJun 06 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Frau komma her!" - Der Letzte Bulle :DJun 06 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Ich sach ja..... Anschnallen gibt Dellen...." :DJun 06 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Braintree murders: Christine Chambers had called police before http://is.gd/ERwYfNJun 06 20:02
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Chips_B_MalroyBack rack is a nice featureJun 06 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !StopUBB blogged: The Internet is a Fundamental Human Right http://ur1.ca/4cwngJun 06 20:04
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schestowitzhub gearJun 06 20:04
schestowitzBut anyway, I came in looking for a sports bikeJun 06 20:05
schestowitzThis one looked less prone to breakageJun 06 20:05
schestowitzIssues so far are minor and some are my faultJun 06 20:05
Chips_B_MalroyWhere you are, you need fenders and chain guards more because its a wet climate.Jun 06 20:05
Chips_B_MalroyHere its very dryJun 06 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ooops..... Leibwächter FAIL......Jun 06 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] One in four US hackers 'is an FBI informer' http://is.gd/iaswIH lol, and the other 3 in 4 are #FBI employeesJun 06 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @thistleweb Braintree murders: Christine Chambers had called police before http://ur1.ca/4cwnz << that is obsceneJun 06 20:06
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Chips_B_MalroySo I can do without that wieghtJun 06 20:06
schestowitz38 poundsJun 06 20:06
Chips_B_MalroyI have two Specialized bikes, they are older onesJun 06 20:06
schestowitzThe other options < http://www.evanscycles.com/search.html?query=mudguards&x=0&y=0 > were around 32 ishJun 06 20:07
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schestowitzoops. Wrong linkJun 06 20:07
schestowitzhttp://www.evanscycles.com/search.html?query=city+dew&x=0&y=0Jun 06 20:07
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Chips_B_Malroy1995 specialized crossroads with 700c wheels, its an hybridJun 06 20:08
Chips_B_Malroycromolly frameJun 06 20:08
Chips_B_MalroyRoad bikes with drop bars are uncomfortable for meJun 06 20:09
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schestowitzI have no use for many gears hereJun 06 20:10
schestowitzThe city is dead flatJun 06 20:10
Chips_B_MalroyAre there any hills you have to ride on there?Jun 06 20:10
Chips_B_MalroyohJun 06 20:10
schestowitzBut racing ones are too fragileJun 06 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jezra Yes I hear you. If there is any rain going, it falls on me. The only time the police pull me over is the day I forgot my license...Jun 06 20:11
schestowitzMy friend who has 18 gear is always on the same oneJun 06 20:11
Chips_B_MalroyThat should be a sturdy bikeJun 06 20:11
schestowitz*18Jun 06 20:11
schestowitzMy old bike had 18 gearsJun 06 20:11
schestowitzJust a toyJun 06 20:11
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schestowitzAnd these get out of rails easilyJun 06 20:11
Chips_B_MalroyI have 18 in the crossroads bike and 21 on the hard rockJun 06 20:12
schestowitzAnd they need greasing, this one is rust proofJun 06 20:12
Chips_B_MalroyThere are some small hills hereJun 06 20:12
schestowitzAround Microsoft there are molesJun 06 20:12
Chips_B_MalroyChain is not rust proof I betJun 06 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I hate to tell you this, but that's a myth. !Canadians are capable of being just as bad as anyone else.Jun 06 20:12
DaemonFCI decided to start connecting with SSLJun 06 20:12
schestowitzTo..?Jun 06 20:13
Chips_B_MalroyAround Microsoft there are dips and sinkholes.Jun 06 20:13
DaemonFCfreenode Jun 06 20:13
schestowitzI can see your IP when you enterJun 06 20:13
schestowitzAnd it's not a very private channelJun 06 20:13
schestowitzSo what would be your gain?Jun 06 20:13
DaemonFCthis is not the only channel on freenodeJun 06 20:13
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: and people with lightbulbs in their mouths :-)Jun 06 20:14
DaemonFCand there are private messages :)Jun 06 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Re: war... in WWI !Canada was the only country to master trench warfare (see "Vimy")Jun 06 20:14
schestowitzFor lamers !! :) j/kJun 06 20:14
Chips_B_MalroyYes, so you did look at the Fester link at Techeye?Jun 06 20:14
schestowitzA/S/L?Jun 06 20:14
DaemonFC14 f ny, wanna cyber?Jun 06 20:14
Chips_B_MalroyTecheye had some interesting stuffJun 06 20:14
schestowitz15/f/FloridaJun 06 20:14
DaemonFCmy parents just got me AOLJun 06 20:14
DaemonFClike lulzJun 06 20:14
schestowitzJustin Beiber!! omg!!Jun 06 20:14
schestowitz*BiJun 06 20:15
GoForbes28http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/apples-icloud-unveiled-by-steve-jobsJun 06 20:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple's iCloud unveiled by Steve Jobs -  News - MSN CA .::. Size~: 51.97 KBJun 06 20:15
GoForbes28iHype?Jun 06 20:15
DaemonFChypecloudJun 06 20:15
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: I saw that and dented this after you mentioned itJun 06 20:15
schestowitzBut today at the gym I wrote an article with your linksJun 06 20:15
schestowitzNo time to post it now, busy workingJun 06 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This show has major style. :) #DerLetzteBulleJun 06 20:16
schestowitzHmm... Steve  is still alive?Jun 06 20:16
schestowitzHow many jars have they cracked open for him?Jun 06 20:16
Chips_B_MalroyRoy, ebay has some cheap wireless computers for about $6.50 including shipping that work really nice for the bikesJun 06 20:16
_GoblinRight back...Jun 06 20:17
schestowitz_Goblin: heyJun 06 20:17
GoForbes28_Goblin: Just what's needed while you are biking the highwayJun 06 20:17
schestowitzChips is in the houseJun 06 20:17
schestowitzI must say I'm baffled by the timing of the S***ers attacking this channelJun 06 20:17
_Goblinyeah I saw earlier...Jun 06 20:17
GoForbes28uh, he's been here for some hoursJun 06 20:17
schestowitzI hadn't done anything provocative recentlyJun 06 20:17
GoForbes28schestowitz: That would be too obviousJun 06 20:18
Chips_B_MalroyI hope I am not disrupting the channel in any wayJun 06 20:18
schestowitzIn fact, I just encourage people to ignore them, anyway... I told those who have op-access who they are, the vandals needn't knowJun 06 20:18
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: not at allJun 06 20:18
DaemonFCoh schestowitz more flash bugsJun 06 20:19
DaemonFChoorayJun 06 20:19
GoForbes28one had an ip comming from swedenJun 06 20:19
schestowitzDaemonFC: light em upJun 06 20:19
Chips_B_Malroywhat you have more shills on the IRC recently?Jun 06 20:19
schestowitzin a flashJun 06 20:19
DaemonFChttp://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20069376-245/adobe-issues-fix-for-flash-hole-being-used-in-attacks/Jun 06 20:19
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: worse, vandals tooJun 06 20:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adobe issues fix for Flash hole being used in attacks | InSecurity Complex - CNET News .::. Size~: 94.88 KBJun 06 20:19
schestowitzDaemonFC: webm comes to youtube soonJun 06 20:19
DaemonFCthe sooner Flash dies the betterJun 06 20:20
Chips_B_MalroyI thought the Byzantines destroyed those Vandals?Jun 06 20:20
GoForbes28schestowitz: Hasn't it already been implemented?Jun 06 20:20
schestowitzFor now I use Flash to see videos. gnash was not so great on Fedora 14Jun 06 20:20
DaemonFCeveryone has a reason to hate Flash regardless of whether they care about free software or notJun 06 20:20
DaemonFCbecause it's very defective technically tooJun 06 20:20
GoForbes28schestowitz: Apparently works best with Firefox 4 (Gnash)Jun 06 20:20
schestowitzI tried thatJun 06 20:21
DaemonFCone of the KDE developers badmouthed Flash a few years ago then went on to praise moonlightJun 06 20:21
Chips_B_MalroyDaemonFC> in some ways though, Flash is just so good.  Just look at all the flash based games available on the web now.Jun 06 20:21
DaemonFCthe blog post was dated 2007Jun 06 20:21
schestowitzit still needed codecsJun 06 20:21
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: resource pigsJun 06 20:21
cubezzzI have to agree, flash isn't goodJun 06 20:21
schestowitzI installed Linux on an old computer and my brother would complain it ran some of the zynga c*** too slowlyJun 06 20:22
schestowitzFLash=bloatJun 06 20:22
Chips_B_Malroyyes, but anything like Flash or Java so of makes all OS equal as far as app or games onlinneJun 06 20:22
schestowitzEasy for devsJun 06 20:22
Chips_B_Malroy*Jun 06 20:22
GoForbes28Chips: Please rephrase that statementJun 06 20:23
Chips_B_Malroysorry for the typo'sJun 06 20:23
schestowitzTHe gamers just need to buy more expensive gearJun 06 20:23
Chips_B_Malroy*sort ofJun 06 20:23
GoForbes28or play BZflagJun 06 20:23
Chips_B_Malroy*onlineJun 06 20:23
schestowitzbrb gotta work..Jun 06 20:23
GoForbes28lots and lots of BZflagJun 06 20:23
GoForbes28schestowitz: bbsJun 06 20:23
Chips_B_MalroyNice bike Roy, enjoyJun 06 20:23
Chips_B_Malroykeep it out of the rain though, chains will rust then break when you need themJun 06 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jamestait: Top tip for pizza dough: "it should be like the breast of a woman, but not too young." !qJun 06 20:26
schestowitzHmm.. kate gets buggy/crashes if I open multiple files over ssh at the time time... now I know why I can't do profiles where the preloaded files are remoteJun 06 20:27
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: yes, that's the planJun 06 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Johnny Cash on #DerLetzteBulle :DJun 06 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Geile Pension ham die da.... :DJun 06 20:27
schestowitzGoForbes28: I'm always here, just need to allocate time for stuffJun 06 20:28
schestowitzBeen here for almost exactly 3 yearsJun 06 20:28
schestowitzJune 2008 IIRCJun 06 20:28
GoForbes28schestowitz: Your computer is never turned off?...Jun 06 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All Iggyed out.Jun 06 20:29
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.hotstocked.com/article/10471/microsoft-corporation-nasdaq-msft-stock-stumbles.htmlJun 06 20:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT) Stock Stumbles Down, While Windows 7 Recovery Spreads Widely .::. Size~: 40.2 KBJun 06 20:34
Chips_B_Malroy"At the same time, while MSFT stock price keeps tumbling down, the rogueware Windows 7 Recovery keeps spreading all over the web."Jun 06 20:35
Chips_B_Malroyrogueware?Jun 06 20:35
Chips_B_MalroyA term for malware?Jun 06 20:36
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Chips_B_MalroyAnd what W7 user would need a recovery app?  Isn't this the most stable OS ever?  LOLJun 06 20:37
DaemonFC"The copyright of all graphic elements under this theme are belongs to the owner."Jun 06 20:38
DaemonFCnice licenseJun 06 20:38
GoForbes28" and the cyber criminals have a perfect plan to intrude this OS"Jun 06 20:38
DaemonFCall my base are belong to him?Jun 06 20:38
GoForbes28"Thus, the overall situation of the company is still attractive. It looks like the perfect time to become an investor of Microsoft Corporation, while the stock price seems to have fallen drastically down."Jun 06 20:38
Chips_B_MalroyThe troube with Flash being non free is similar to the trouble with Skype.  It (Adobe) can be bought.Jun 06 20:39
GoForbes28yep, keep drinking the koolaidJun 06 20:39
GoForbes28Chips: Skype has been reversed engineered more successfully thoughJun 06 20:39
DaemonFCand yet another "windows only" firefox theme that works fineJun 06 20:39
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 20:39
GoForbes28lolJun 06 20:39
GoForbes28it must use Windows BMPsJun 06 20:40
GoForbes28I guessJun 06 20:40
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/display/20110606110853_Microsoft_Has_Option_to_Acquire_Nvidia_Documents.htmlJun 06 20:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Has Option to Acquire Nvidia - Documents - X-bit labs .::. Size~: 30.64 KBJun 06 20:40
GoForbes28yeah, great idea thereJun 06 20:41
Chips_B_Malroy""Under the agreement, if an individual or corporation makes an offer to purchase shares equal to or greater than 30% of the outstanding shares of our common stock, Microsoft may have first and last rights of refusal to purchase the stock," Nvidia said in the filing, dated May 27, reports InformationWeek web-site."Jun 06 20:41
GoForbes28Moral: Everything Microsoft touches dies a little.Jun 06 20:42
DaemonFCwell, one thing Mozilla, Opera, and Google Chrome all do that I disagree with is make it possible for extensions to use OS-specific API directlyJun 06 20:42
DaemonFCFirefox is actually the worst Jun 06 20:42
schestowitzJun 06 20:42
schestowitz[20:29] <GoForbes28> schestowitz: Your computer is never turned off?...Jun 06 20:42
schestowitzNoJun 06 20:42
DaemonFCOpera and Google at least limit it to themesJun 06 20:42
Chips_B_MalroyNow, never underestimate MS which has just been released from antitrust oversite by the DOJ in the USA to buy companiesJun 06 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch with 98 dents!Jun 06 20:42
Chips_B_MalroyI am expecting MS to surprize us with at least one or two major purchases.Jun 06 20:43
DaemonFCreleased from their token oversightJun 06 20:43
Chips_B_MalroyyesJun 06 20:43
DaemonFCand free(er) to go attack othersJun 06 20:43
GoForbes28chips_b_malroy: Which company will die next in your opinion?Jun 06 20:44
Chips_B_MalroyNokia is already in its death throes.Jun 06 20:44
Chips_B_MalroyEven Adobe and Opera could be targets.Jun 06 20:44
DaemonFCschestowitz was a member of the Freedom To Innovate Network I'm sureJun 06 20:44
DaemonFChe likes innovationJun 06 20:45
GoForbes28Opera would never agreeJun 06 20:45
DaemonFCGoForbes28, Everything is for sale if the price is rightJun 06 20:45
Chips_B_MalroyRim (Blackberry) is possible, but unlikely.Jun 06 20:45
DaemonFCMicrosoft should buy Opera, Opera has decent mobile browsersJun 06 20:45
DaemonFCPocket Internet Explorer is well, mobile IEJun 06 20:45
DaemonFCewwwJun 06 20:45
Chips_B_Malroywhich is why they wouldJun 06 20:45
GoForbes28DaemonFC: Don't forget the TruthJun 06 20:45
GoForbes28DaemonFC: You really think Opera would remain intact by a buyout?Jun 06 20:46
Chips_B_Malroywhich is why we cannot trust non free softwareJun 06 20:46
GoForbes28DaemonFC: Everything Microsoft dies.Jun 06 20:46
DaemonFCoh here's one with a EULA written in FrenchJun 06 20:46
DaemonFCniceJun 06 20:46
Chips_B_Malroyno matter how good the opera's and skype's areJun 06 20:46
GoForbes28well Skype already had problemsJun 06 20:47
GoForbes28Opera's founder was key for the introduction of web standards and organizationsJun 06 20:47
DaemonFCSkype is just like Microsoft, they put out bad software and somehow manage to stay goingJun 06 20:47
ender_33now skype will be moving to US soil and will by required by law to hand the keys to the NSAJun 06 20:47
GoForbes28ender_33: great time to stop using itJun 06 20:48
ender_33unencrypted voip is just as badJun 06 20:48
GoForbes28ender_33: Though not like the law changes anything, recall the China/Skype controversyJun 06 20:48
GoForbes28ender_33: Unencrypted nowadays is badJun 06 20:49
ender_33I didn't hear about china and skypeJun 06 20:49
Chips_B_MalroyAdobe being bought by M$ would pose a much bigger problem for open source operating systems.Jun 06 20:49
GoForbes28Heck, I'm even using encrypted IRCJun 06 20:49
DaemonFCwill bend over for special government treatmentJun 06 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 201 million downloads on 2011-06-06 19:42 UTCJun 06 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching "America's Secret Killers" Ch.4 Death squads roaming around the globe, you get the picture.Jun 06 20:49
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 20:49
GoForbes28!google skype chinaJun 06 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - China makes Skype illegal - Telegraph | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8231444/China-makes-Skype-illegal.htmlJun 06 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Skype in China - Skype Community | http://forum.skype.com/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D787337Jun 06 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Skype Banned in China? Not So Fast… - China Real Time Report - WSJ | http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/01/03/skype-china-ban-reports-overblown/Jun 06 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Skype Says China Services Working Amid Crackdown - Businessweek | http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-01-04/skype-says-china-services-working-amid-crackdown.htmlJun 06 20:49
GoForbes28!google skype china conversationsJun 06 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Skype in China - Skype Community | http://forum.skype.com/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D810083Jun 06 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Skype - The Big Blog - Skype President Addresses Chinese Privacy ... | http://blogs.skype.com/en/2008/10/skype_president_addresses_chin.htmlJun 06 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Yes, China Is Spying On Skype Conversations | Techdirt | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20081002/0903442435.shtmlJun 06 20:49
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Surveillance of Skype Messages Found in China | http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/02/technology/internet/02skype.htmlJun 06 20:49
GoForbes28tadaJun 06 20:49
ender_33LOL guess whatJun 06 20:50
GoForbes28DaemonFC: So who do you forsee Microshaft buying next?Jun 06 20:50
ender_33I decided to try Tomboy for Windows, just for kicksJun 06 20:50
GoForbes28lollJun 06 20:50
ender_33fucking crashed my explorer and now I have to rebootJun 06 20:50
GoForbes28brilliantJun 06 20:50
ender_33their shit sucks on windows tooJun 06 20:50
DaemonFCGoForbes28, I don't know. Is there something that can top $8.5 billion for a company that loses money?Jun 06 20:50
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 20:50
GoForbes28When did the Microsoft-buying-out oversite end?Jun 06 20:51
ender_33hey you know whatJun 06 20:51
ender_33when their stock is worth nothing lets buy them outJun 06 20:52
ender_33then we release all the code they haveJun 06 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @dekaminski, @BoingBoing: Record industry lobby says it no longer supports human rights violations http://bit.ly/mJqz9kJun 06 20:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Record industry lobby says it no longer supports 3-strikes copyright termination laws - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 23.61 KBJun 06 20:52
GoForbes28ender_33: I'm thinking that Microsoft will buy  so many companies that eventually what is left of the core of Microsoft will be gone, and instead you'll have a big union of companiesJun 06 20:53
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DaemonFCit supports summary execution for anyone with unlicensed mp3sJun 06 20:54
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 20:54
GoForbes28mp3 sucks anywayJun 06 20:55
GoForbes28another "standard" that isn'tJun 06 20:55
DaemonFCmp3 and rar are popular because of the warez scene which doesn't tend to care too much about licenses or patents anywayJun 06 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @sebsebseb that and family....busy life!Jun 06 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Publishing our recommendation to Oracle: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/06/publishing-our-recommendation-to-oracle/ !libo !tdfJun 06 20:56
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Chips_B_MalroyMS buys companies so as to deny them (lock out) the competition.  It also makes stock deals so it can controls the direction of companies.Jun 06 20:56
Chips_B_MalroyMS is moving more to control hardware companies.Jun 06 20:56
DaemonFCyeah, it wants to ruin the tablet market so it's worthless to free software Jun 06 20:57
Chips_B_Malroyyou got that right!Jun 06 20:57
DaemonFCApple and Microsoft will both make the same kind of tablet, a crippled toy that only works with one of their PCsJun 06 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Skype Reverse-Engineered And Dumped on Pirate Bay http://is.gd/0mLIYX !tpb !skype !microsoft !mvpbuzz !mvpJun 06 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Harmony Drafting Group members say "[i]sn't entirely clear !CC0 is valid across a large # of jurisdictions" http://ur1.ca/4cwyk !CCJun 06 20:57
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DaemonFCMicrosoft is so carried away with their scorched earth policy that they're hurting themselves more than free softwareJun 06 20:58
DaemonFChardware companies are mad because the bribes aren't worth the damage they'll do to their salesJun 06 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wutbürger. ROFLJun 06 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches New Government Linked Data Working Group http://ow.ly/1d5kX0Jun 06 20:59
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DaemonFCso you know that not all of them will take the bribesJun 06 20:59
GoForbes28DaemonFC: Asus, Toshiba seem to be a few of the firstJun 06 20:59
GoForbes28DaemonFC: Kia now using MS in their carsJun 06 21:00
DaemonFCso?Jun 06 21:00
DaemonFCI'm not going to buy oneJun 06 21:00
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 21:00
GoForbes28MS controlling car companies too?  PffJun 06 21:00
DaemonFCKia makes shoddy cars anywayJun 06 21:00
GoForbes28Nah, they are much better nowJun 06 21:00
DaemonFCunreliable as a Volkswagen but better pricedJun 06 21:00
GoForbes28the Koreans have succeededJun 06 21:00
GoForbes28Their reliability is better than VW based on Consumer ReportsJun 06 21:01
GoForbes28VW shot themselves in the foot by moving to MexicoJun 06 21:01
DaemonFCand consumer reports isn't corrupt? :PJun 06 21:01
GoForbes28not how I see itJun 06 21:01
DaemonFCyeah, nothing made in Mexico works right Jun 06 21:01
GoForbes28Well, that's a generalizationJun 06 21:02
DaemonFCThomson found that out when they tried moving production thereJun 06 21:02
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GoForbes28There is a clear reliability and quality fall after VW moved their thoughJun 06 21:02
DaemonFCthen the Mexicans got pissed because Thomson shut them down and moved it all to ChinaJun 06 21:02
GoForbes28*thereJun 06 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Apple and their simple, uncomplicated, elegant slides..... http://outl.ws/1pJun 06 21:02
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ender_33one of the problems my teacher said was with mexico, is that when a soccer came comes on all your workers would take offJun 06 21:03
DaemonFCthere's factories in China where if you fuck up a part, they just take you out back and shoot youJun 06 21:03
GoForbes28DaemonFC: Many fords are built in Mexico tooJun 06 21:03
DaemonFCseriouslyJun 06 21:03
ender_33source?Jun 06 21:04
DaemonFCGoForbes28, I replaced the idler pulley on my Ford with one made in MexicoJun 06 21:04
DaemonFCthe original part lasted 13 yearsJun 06 21:04
DaemonFCthe replacement lasted 1Jun 06 21:04
ender_33the replacement made in china?Jun 06 21:04
DaemonFCMexicoJun 06 21:04
ender_33where was the original designedJun 06 21:05
DaemonFCthey don't use metal, they use tempered plasticJun 06 21:05
DaemonFCof course the shit is going to failJun 06 21:05
DaemonFCcheap cheap cheapJun 06 21:05
ender_33lol china uses tempered plasticJun 06 21:05
DaemonFCI'd do better pulling one off a car in a junkyard than to use a new Mexican made partJun 06 21:05
Chips_B_Malroynot worker related, its an engineering problemJun 06 21:05
ender_33its a quality of materials problemJun 06 21:05
Chips_B_MalroyexactlyJun 06 21:05
ender_33i noticed a lot of stuff made dirt cheap in china fails a lotJun 06 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The iPhone has a welcome wizard now? How #revolutionary!Jun 06 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] #linphone don't see my webcam on #Fedora is there an alternative to this SIP (Video) client other then ekiga ?Jun 06 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Last episode of All Watched Over By Machines Of Love and Grace on Beeb 2 now. Interesting. The machine vision. Computers and mathematics.Jun 06 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The Document Foundation publishes the proposal Oracle rejected: http://wmk.me/lyZeHxJun 06 21:06
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ender_33motherboards are probably the most commonJun 06 21:06
DaemonFCthats if it even manages to boot anything other than WindowsJun 06 21:06
ender_33less layers of silicon because its cheaperJun 06 21:06
ender_33some companies used video card PCB's for motherboardsJun 06 21:07
ender_33very thin, prone to failureJun 06 21:07
ender_33nobody pays for windows in china so thats not really a problemJun 06 21:07
Chips_B_MalroyWindows Phone seems to be losing MS Moble market share like crazyJun 06 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Opening the field of neurobiological research | http://red.ht/kLAHOd #opensource #community #collaborationJun 06 21:07
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ender_33nintendo even refused to sell consoles in china because of the piracyJun 06 21:08
DaemonFChar har harJun 06 21:08
DaemonFCgimme yer software or I'll run ya throughJun 06 21:08
DaemonFCB-)Jun 06 21:08
Chips_B_MalroyBill taught the Chinese how to be pirates by raping and overcharging themJun 06 21:08
DaemonFCWindows is dead simple to pirate because that's how Microsoft wants it to beJun 06 21:09
ender_33exactlyJun 06 21:09
Chips_B_MalroyNow they will expect software to be zero cost no matter whatJun 06 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! That's just pathetic UI design: http://outl.ws/1q #Apple #NotWhatItsCrackedUpToBeJun 06 21:09
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DaemonFCthey figure anyone who would pirate Windows is a potential Linux user if they kick them outJun 06 21:09
DaemonFCso they turn around and whistle and let it happenJun 06 21:09
ender_33they only pretend to be against it in north americaJun 06 21:09
ender_33WGA and activation only effect paying usersJun 06 21:10
DaemonFCbecause all Americans have a spare $320 laying aroundJun 06 21:10
DaemonFCto spend on a boxJun 06 21:10
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Chips_B_MalroyThe day is coming here when they will go after non paying usersJun 06 21:10
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ender_33or a spare $80-120 for an OEM copy and a computer cableJun 06 21:10
ender_33;)Jun 06 21:10
Chips_B_MalroyWhen the bottom line of MS is in troubleJun 06 21:10
ender_33Microsoft told us we could thatJun 06 21:10
ender_33at Canada ComputersJun 06 21:10
ender_33sell xp with a cable, since the cable is an internal componentJun 06 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] And a bit of Roy Orbison into the bargain.Jun 06 21:11
DaemonFCyou can get them OEM without any hardware you knowJun 06 21:11
ender_33vista was a little trickierJun 06 21:11
DaemonFCall OEM means is that you get no support options from themJun 06 21:11
ender_33yes exactlyJun 06 21:11
DaemonFCand it's tied to the computer it was first installed onJun 06 21:11
Chips_B_MalroyOEM also supposed to mean you cannot transferr the licence to another computerJun 06 21:11
DaemonFCretail copies can be deactivated and activated on a different motherboardJun 06 21:12
ender_33OEM meant we had to support it, but microsoft didnt say it had to be freeJun 06 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Zeitgeist on its way into KDE • by Seif Lotfy http://ping.fm/rzwErJun 06 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Record industry lobby says it no longer supports 3-strikes copyright termination laws http://ur1.ca/4cx18 I heard oinc and live at 9th floorJun 06 21:12
ender_33we charged users $30 to discover their problemJun 06 21:12
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Chips_B_MalroyThere is no meaningful 'support' from MS for retail.  Only support is for large corporation with special deals.Jun 06 21:13
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DaemonFCI've called Microsoft support beforeJun 06 21:13
DaemonFCtheir favorite word is reinstallJun 06 21:13
MinceRwhat did you call it? :>Jun 06 21:13
ender_33we called it reinstallJun 06 21:13
ender_33lolJun 06 21:13
ender_33'windows is corrupt'Jun 06 21:14
ender_33'how do I prevent that?' 'switch to linux'Jun 06 21:14
DaemonFCor you can use HP's support, which is the same as Microsoft's, wait on hold forever and get told to reinstall, but you're paying by the minute because it's a long distance numberJun 06 21:14
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/06/monday-note-nokia-microsoftJun 06 21:15
DaemonFCwith a cell phone you pay by the minute no matter what the number isJun 06 21:15
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Chips_B_Malroy"One false step and you're dead. Or worse: You're the walking dead. This is what awaits CEOs who mismanage a product transition and allow the existing revenue stream to run dry before the promising new product shows up."Jun 06 21:15
DaemonFCyou'll know Microsoft is in trouble when they start talking about Windows 9 before Windows 8 shipsJun 06 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] RT @Abhi_aditya: Just took a simple ScreenCast of my Fedora desktop via #Gnome3, it saved in webm format, @Fedora ROCKS BABY!!vJun 06 21:16
DaemonFCI have a feeling they willJun 06 21:16
Chips_B_Malroy"This is known as the Osborne Effect, named after Adam Osborne, the prolific inventor, entrepreneur and writer, and founder of the eponymous Osborne Computer Corporation. In 1981, Osborne introduced a machine that was, in effect, the first commercially available portable computer, the Osborne 1:"Jun 06 21:16
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experimentJun 06 21:16
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ender_33Just took a simple ScreenCast of my Fedora desktop via #Gnome3, it saved in webm format, @Fedora ROCKS BABY!!Jun 06 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] New blog post: Better Community With Better Technology - http://is.gd/kMHkkG #ubuntuJun 06 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Why !MeeGo was dropped" by Jatinder Singh on the Symbian Blog http://ping.fm/6L2l7Jun 06 21:17
ender_33niceJun 06 21:17
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Chips_B_Malroy"In the now famous 8 February Burning Platforms memo, Elop tipped his hand. Yes, he makes a valid point: This isn't a platform war, it's an ecosystem war. But he also makes two crucial mistakes: He blames Nokia employees ("we have lacked accountability and leadership"), and then he implies that Nokia is open to all possibilities as they enter a domain that is forced upon them by the competition ("Our competitors ... are taking our market shareJun 06 21:18
Chips_B_Malroywith an entire ecosystem. This means we're going to have to decide how we either build, catalyse or join an ecosystem")."Jun 06 21:18
ender_33amusingJun 06 21:18
ender_33join a dying ecosystemJun 06 21:19
Chips_B_MalroyElop in effect said Nokia products were KrapJun 06 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Download of the Week: The Clockwork Man • by Brian Thomason http://ping.fm/YaUrCJun 06 21:19
Chips_B_Malroyand custermers were listeningJun 06 21:19
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Chips_B_MalroyNow thanks to Elop, Nokia phones are not selling.  Yes they would have still declined due to comp\etiton from Android and iPhone, but not like when your CEO comes out and says our products suck.Jun 06 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @jonobacon New blog post: Better Community With Better Technology - http://is.gd/kMHkkG #ubuntuJun 06 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @fabsh The iPhone has a welcome wizard now? How #revolutionary!Jun 06 21:22
schestowitzUrban dictionary needs a definition for "elop"Jun 06 21:23
Chips_B_MalroyThere is a right way and a wrong way to move products to another system.  The right way would have been to add other systems and continue the others until you sold out your stockJun 06 21:23
DaemonFCwhy is Nokia still working on QT?Jun 06 21:23
DaemonFCthey have no further need of itJun 06 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hack... *http://bit.ly/m9sp9B(SCEDEV)-Web-Source-Code&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20psgroovecom%20(PSGroove.comJun 06 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #LulzSec Hackers Tied To #Anonymous In Leaked Logs - Andy Greenberg - The Firewall - Forbes http://ping.fm/L7NelJun 06 21:24
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Chips_B_MalroyUnless Elop really meant to tank the stock, looking for MS to buy them out cheaply.Jun 06 21:24
Chips_B_MalroyIts possible, after all he is a Trojan.Jun 06 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #CyanogenMod coming to the Galaxy S 2, thanks to #Samsung | Android Central http://ping.fm/OAbscJun 06 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just waiting for #Clippy to have a "I see you're planning a revolution, would you like me to inform the authorities for you?" line lolJun 06 21:27
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DaemonFCthe last Nokia phone I had was like, 2002 I thinkJun 06 21:28
DaemonFCthey've always been on the low end of cell phonesJun 06 21:28
Chips_B_Malroy"How did Ballmer convince Elop to expose Nokia to the Osborne Effect? Was it the "worth billions" concessions? Given the depth of the hole Nokia now finds itself in, the number must have been a large one."Jun 06 21:29
DaemonFCmanagementJun 06 21:30
DaemonFCotherwise known as get rich and get outJun 06 21:30
DaemonFCleave the company to tankJun 06 21:30
Chips_B_MalroyOr it could have been just that Elop is a Trojan Mole?Jun 06 21:30
Chips_B_MalroyWill MS buy Nokia when the stock gets it down to 12 billion?Jun 06 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Taking Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire as bed lecture....Jun 06 21:31
DaemonFCMicrosoft isn't going to buy NokiaJun 06 21:31
Chips_B_MalroyRemember, Nokia is unlikely to make any profits until the new WP comes out.  Doubtfully then even.Jun 06 21:31
DaemonFCthey just need a host for their Vista Phone parasite Jun 06 21:31
Chips_B_MalroyAre you so sure?Jun 06 21:32
Chips_B_MalroyOne of the links I posted last night says Nokia is worth 39 billion if sold in parts.  But the stock is only worth 19 billion right now thanks in large part to Elop.Jun 06 21:33
Chips_B_MalroySounds like a large profit for a big corporate raider to me.Jun 06 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @mlinksva @fontana I've pretty much come to understand that most statement+questions about license "validity" = FUD+ignorance. !CC0 i ...Jun 06 21:34
Chips_B_MalroySort of like the deal of parting out Novell was.Jun 06 21:34
Chips_B_MalroyNokia is ripe for the pickingJun 06 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Disastrous plan no 1:Doctors asked to identify potential terrorists http://ping.fm/ia7cLJun 06 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Import IFC files to !Blender with #IfcOpenShell | Blender 3D Architect http://ping.fm/4iLMsJun 06 21:37
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.kingofalltrades.com/2011/06/06/microsoft-nasdaqmsft-and-nokia-nysenok-a-fit-or-a-disaster/Jun 06 21:38
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schestowitz[21:23] <DaemonFC> why is Nokia still working on QT?Jun 06 21:39
schestowitzYou didn't watch the enwsJun 06 21:39
gnufreex[22:28:04] <Chips_B_Malroy> One of the links I posted last night says Nokia is worth 39 billion if sold in parts.  But the stock is only worth 19 billion right now thanks in large part to Elop.Jun 06 21:40
gnufreexIt is $25bJun 06 21:40
Chips_B_Malroy"In the past week, Nokia lowered its forecast and expectations for the coming quarters as well as full year.  Since then, the stock has been steadily spiraling downward aggressively and losing even more value. Nokia put out guidance that sales at its devices and services division in the second quarter would fall below its forecast range of $8.9 billion because it is selling fewer handsets at lower prices than previous expectations."Jun 06 21:40
schestowitzFinland's IT workers are screwedJun 06 21:40
schestowitzThanks, MicrosoftJun 06 21:40
Chips_B_MalroyyesJun 06 21:40
schestowitzThey did start to gravitate towards Linux with MeeGOJun 06 21:40
schestowitzThen Bill and Steve sent a moleJun 06 21:41
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schestowitzWith a limoJun 06 21:41
schestowitzI have a post about it comingJun 06 21:41
schestowitzHow they did their entryismJun 06 21:41
Chips_B_MalroyRoy>  MS will either outright buy Nokia as the stock further tanks, or buy in like they did with Apple, back in that day.  If a partial stock buy its to control the direction of Nokia.Jun 06 21:42
Chips_B_MalroyEither way, Nokia is toast.Jun 06 21:44
schestowitzRemembr this:Jun 06 21:45
schestowitzNokia is doing, its monopolies are notJun 06 21:45
schestowitzMobile phones=big moneyJun 06 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Better Community With Better Technology http://goo.gl/YIOVH !uJun 06 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Download of the Week: The Clockwork Man http://goo.gl/ghSigJun 06 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Hardware monitor applet ‘Indicator Systemload’ updates, adds real-time stats to menu http://goo.gl/UfVfGJun 06 21:46
schestowitzPatents=big moneyJun 06 21:46
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schestowitzNokia is already dyingJun 06 21:46
schestowitzNo shelf life leftJun 06 21:46
schestowitzBut patents last decadesJun 06 21:46
schestowitzAnd Ballmer wants thoseJun 06 21:46
Chips_B_Malroyjust like he wanted Novell patentsJun 06 21:46
schestowitzBallmer is a real go-get-herJun 06 21:47
schestowitzLike with SkypeJun 06 21:47
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: and they got theseJun 06 21:47
schestowitzCheaplyJun 06 21:47
schestowitzAll the Novell inventionsJun 06 21:47
schestowitz~$300m and SHARED the cost with thecartelJun 06 21:47
schestowitzEMC (Microsoft ally), Apple..Jun 06 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] iloveubuntu: "Adwaita !GNOME 3 scrollbars", awesome !Chromium extension http://goo.gl/eS5NMJun 06 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] "I will be the KDE Framework Overlord." - @ervin at #platform11 in #randa. there may have been some additional context ...Jun 06 21:47
schestowitzThe USPTO sickens meJun 06 21:47
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schestowitzLinux invents bigJun 06 21:48
schestowitzThe corprorations are another battleJun 06 21:48
schestowitzOf sociopaths with papersJun 06 21:48
schestowitzAsk Ballmer what programs he wroteJun 06 21:48
schestowitzHehJun 06 21:48
schestowitzask bill what programs he foishes from the garbageJun 06 21:48
schestowitzOffice is just a collection of developers and companies Microsoft bought, in partJun 06 21:49
schestowitzanyway, g2gJun 06 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica Opinion: !Android vs. iOS: Why the “Simpsons did it” argument means nothing http://goo.gl/xGmddJun 06 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: #Zeitgeist on its way into !KDE http://goo.gl/xZyHZJun 06 21:49
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schestowitzDoes anyone feel like co-editing TR posts?Jun 06 21:50
schestowitzI have complete draftsJun 06 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Just to clarify my position: I really want to see Steve Jobs recover, but I really want to see Apple failJun 06 21:51
Chips_B_MalroyWould it help if I was to send you stuff by email or pm, instead of posting it all in IRC?Jun 06 21:52
schestowitzNo, wait...Jun 06 21:56
schestowitzI'll put the draft in the wikiJun 06 21:56
zoobab_hiJun 06 21:57
schestowitzYou can polish it with meJun 06 21:57
schestowitzhi, zoobab_Jun 06 21:57
schestowitzI have 2 posts about patents comingJun 06 21:57
schestowitzYou need to tweet moreJun 06 21:57
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: got a wiki account?Jun 06 21:58
zoobab_got busy at workJun 06 21:59
Chips_B_Malroyno. long ago lost my log inJun 06 21:59
schestowitzzoobab_: embedded something with Debian IIRC?Jun 06 22:01
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: you can create a new accountJun 06 22:02
schestowitzThis way we can see each other's edits and I can credit you for articlesJun 06 22:02
schestowitzsome articles are already done this wayJun 06 22:02
Chips_B_Malroywill try another day to Jun 06 22:03
Chips_B_Malroycreate new accountJun 06 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hackers exploit Flash bug in new attacks against Gmail users | Security - InfoWorld http://ping.fm/W2nk6Jun 06 22:04
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zoobab_android developmentJun 06 22:06
Chips_B_MalroyMS as legal troll, this story has been mostly written.  Before they used pawns like SCO to do their bidding.  Now they attack in the open.   The next part of the story is of MS as corporate raider.Jun 06 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mark Shuttleworth Blog » On balancing economic power in the FLOSS ecosystem http://ping.fm/V79OKJun 06 22:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @w3c: W3C Launches New Government Linked Data Working Group http://ow.ly/1d5kX0Jun 06 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Changing all the time doesn't make communication easier.Jun 06 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Apple Is Insulted You Think Steve Jobs Could Ever Die (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/iRd9xNJun 06 22:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks shows bitter Canada-U.S. water tiff http://is.gd/6OATkEJun 06 22:11
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Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.asymco.com/2011/06/02/does-the-phone-market-forgive-failure/Jun 06 22:14
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Chips_B_Malroy"One of the details of Nokia?s warning which did not get a lot of attention was the mention that profitability for the current quarter could not be guaranteed. That is to say that Nokia may make a loss, perhaps for the first time in more than a decade."Jun 06 22:15
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Chips_B_Malroy"This may not be that newsworthy except for the strange fact that as far as I?ve been able to observe, any company in the mobile phone market that ended up losing money has never recovered its standing in terms of share or profit (i.e. AMP index value has never recovered)."Jun 06 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Going to look at Ubuntu Studio.....seems a very interesting project... !ubuntuJun 06 22:16
schestowitz[22:07] <Chips_B_Malroy> MS as legal troll, this story has been mostly written.  Before they used pawns like SCO to do their bidding.  Now they attack in the open.   Jun 06 22:20
schestowitzOr with patent trollsJun 06 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] My #troll dents to @bkuhn are starting to influence style of my emails to @spot. !disturbingJun 06 22:21
Chips_B_Malroya comment from Gromit1704 from the last link I posted:  "It was incredibly dumb to announce the demise of Symbian while the Nokia/Windows Phone was still vaporware. What were Nokia's customers supposed to buy in the next 6/9 months? Nokia's sales and profits were bound to plummet in the interim. A real cynic might think that Microsoft went public on the "collaboration" safe in the knowledge that before the products hit market they could Jun 06 22:22
Chips_B_Malroyacquire Nokia for a fraction of what it was worth a few months ago. But that would be very evil."Jun 06 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Android, forking, and control http://lwn.net/Articles/446297/rssJun 06 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek&Poke: Worst Case http://goo.gl/0VlseJun 06 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Mark Shuttleworth: On balancing economic power in the FLOSS ecosystem http://goo.gl/NxzmGJun 06 22:24
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Chips_B_MalroyI prefer the story of MS as corporate raider than the story of MS as patent troll.  Both stories are true, just the raider one has been covered far less.  And people understand the job loses that Finland and other workers of Nokia are going through thanks to the WP7 deal.Jun 06 22:26
Chips_B_MalroyPeople tend to see the greater evil in job destruction by a raider.Jun 06 22:26
Chips_B_MalroyNot that the patent story is not worth reporting, it is.Jun 06 22:27
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: they also are not corporate raidersJun 06 22:27
schestowitzThey do it by proxyJun 06 22:27
schestowitzLike patent-trollingJun 06 22:28
schestowitzIcahn, Singer...Jun 06 22:28
schestowitzIntellectual Ventures, Interval, acacia..Jun 06 22:28
schestowitzIncreasingly I cover just patent issuesJun 06 22:29
schestowitzIt's all that matter nowJun 06 22:29
schestowitzAndroid has wonJun 06 22:29
schestowitzzoobab_: (FFII president) too uses itJun 06 22:29
schestowitzMicrosoft wants $5 for each machine zoobab_ works hard to makeJun 06 22:29
schestowitzIf not $50  as per XandrosJun 06 22:30
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zoobab_you spotted the RAND stuff in the standards directive?Jun 06 22:32
schestowitzzoobab_: importajnt: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303657404576363781889157222.html?amp&amp&ampJun 06 22:33
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schestowitzfrom FSFE's pres.Jun 06 22:33
schestowitzzoobab_: just one occurrenceJun 06 22:34
schestowitzI published a copy of the PDF as it might vanish (draft)Jun 06 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Salesforce.com CEO Benioff: Microsoft's .Net is "dying off" (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/lv7JYdJun 06 22:34
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zoobab_I have not seen any article in thereJun 06 22:34
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_EuropeJun 06 22:35
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schestowitzzoobab_: watch carefullyJun 06 22:35
schestowitzit's not enough for an articleJun 06 22:35
schestowitzJust one passageJun 06 22:35
zoobab_have you watch the last video?Jun 06 22:35
schestowitzand glyn hardly blogs much anymore... journalists are 'dying'Jun 06 22:36
schestowitzzoobab_: not yetJun 06 22:36
schestowitzI'm also too busy wiith workJun 06 22:36
schestowitzBut tomorrow I mostly have time off everythingJun 06 22:36
zoobab_okJun 06 22:36
schestowitzLinux news is boring when Microsoft makes money from LinuxJun 06 22:36
MinceRwhoa, the raging marxist troll is goneJun 06 22:36
Chips_B_MalroyPatents are not the only way for MS to win.  As long as its profitable, MS will be a problem.Jun 06 22:37
DaemonFCschestowitz, The new Firefox release cycle is sure to be trouble for distributions that don't want invasive new features that might cause problems for their stable releaseJun 06 22:37
DaemonFCthey're abandoning Firefox 4 alreadyJun 06 22:37
schestowitzThere's no point promoting feminism when "feminism" is defined as allowing women to spend more time doing houseworkJun 06 22:37
DaemonFCschestowitz, feminist usually means woman who wants to tear your penis off and feed it to rabid dogs jsut because you're a manJun 06 22:38
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: patents can make them profitableJun 06 22:38
DaemonFC:)Jun 06 22:38
zoobab_you want 10 years, the patent litigation fireworks will be betterJun 06 22:38
Chips_B_Malroyyes, Patents are a problem.  But not the only problem.Jun 06 22:39
schestowitzTHe West is a lot of problem for 90% of the world's peopleJun 06 22:39
Chips_B_MalroyThe legal system can change.Jun 06 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] SeaMonkey 2.1 Release Candidate 2 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-06-06Jun 06 22:39
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Chips_B_MalroyBut not quickly, it seems.Jun 06 22:39
schestowitznot in the right directionJun 06 22:40
schestowitzPeople make new ways of overcoming itJun 06 22:40
schestowitzANd sometimes the socipaths don't move the legal system fast enough to catch upJun 06 22:40
DaemonFCChips_B_Malroy, The legal system changes quickly when the peasants have found a way around the restrictions designed to protect the richJun 06 22:40
Chips_B_MalroyThe legal system here does seem to flow in the direction of the most money.Jun 06 22:40
schestowitzTo gun down progressJun 06 22:40
DaemonFCthen it changes REAL fastJun 06 22:40
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: capitalist legal systemJun 06 22:40
schestowitzIt's most legal if it's more profitable (to our economy only)Jun 06 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Is there a kind person out there who'd care to enlighten me as to why #Gwibber doesn't have basic keyboard navigation like page up/dn?Jun 06 22:41
Chips_B_MalroyThe question is what is Google waiting for?Jun 06 22:41
Chips_B_MalroyThink I know the anwserJun 06 22:41
schestowitz!google ice domain takedownJun 06 22:41
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TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Domain Seizure, ICE, DHS, DMCA Takedown - thegeniusfiles | http://www.thegeniusfiles.com/domain-seizure-ice-dhs-dmca-takedownJun 06 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Homeland Security demands Mozilla take down MAFIAAfire, Mozilla ... | http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php%3Ft%3D570500Jun 06 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - TAKEDOWN: ICE seizes eight more domains during "Operation In Our ... | http://www.keepanimealive.com/news/2011-05-23/takedown-ice-seizes-eight-more-domains-during-operation-in-our-sitesJun 06 22:41
Chips_B_MalroyGoogle is waiting to sue MS when Android is so large a component that the US legal system cannot shut it down.Jun 06 22:42
Chips_B_MalroyFor any reasonJun 06 22:42
schestowitzGoogle is not targettedJun 06 22:43
schestowitzMicrosoft partners areJun 06 22:43
schestowitzMicrosoft did the same to SambaJun 06 22:43
schestowitz!google "jeremy alllison" eat a bug NovellJun 06 22:43
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsJun 06 22:43
Chips_B_MalroyOnce Google reaches a critial mass with Android and Chrome, the lawsuits will not be effective.Jun 06 22:43
schestowitz!google "jeremy allison" eat a bug NovellJun 06 22:43
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Novell's Marketing Team is Promoting Vista 7 (Again) and Speaks ... | http://techrights.org/2010/05/15/novell-on-pr-experimentations/Jun 06 22:43
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Google « Jeremy's Blog | http://jeremy.linuxquestions.org/category/google/page/3/Jun 06 22:43
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - How Sun's need to control the code cost them the company | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/how-suns-need-to-control-the-code-cost-them-the-company/31418Jun 06 22:43
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Linux Today - LinuxWorld: Nobody Reads This Stuff | http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/2007022201726OSMSNVJun 06 22:43
Chips_B_MalroyApple sues Google directly I believe, same with Oracle.  Jun 06 22:44
schestowitzNoJun 06 22:44
Chips_B_MalroyMS sues companies that use Android.Jun 06 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Show me my cookies and no one gets hurt. http://red.ht/jIpezC @Scottmeyer #CMsummit #transparency #privacyJun 06 22:44
schestowitzHTC and SanmsungJun 06 22:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Show me my cookies and no one gets hurt. | opensource.com .::. Size~: 47.17 KBJun 06 22:44
Chips_B_Malroyok, then OracleJun 06 22:44
schestowitzMicrosoft is friends with those companies, so it has them paying for AndroidJun 06 22:44
schestowitzPatently disgracefulJun 06 22:45
Chips_B_MalroyAt some point, Google will countersue on behave of the companies that use Android.  It has to.Jun 06 22:45
schestowitzCountersue under what terms?Jun 06 22:45
Chips_B_MalroyUnless, Motorollia wins.Jun 06 22:45
schestowitzThere should be RICO Act invokedJun 06 22:45
Chips_B_MalroyyesJun 06 22:46
Chips_B_MalroyagreedJun 06 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I just got #Asayrolled by #Wikipedia article on !GPLJun 06 22:46
schestowitz!google matt asay google sue Microsoft androidJun 06 22:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - When will Microsoft sue Google over Linux? | The Open Road - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10458849-16.htmlJun 06 22:46
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Google: Numbers favor Android over iPhone | The Open Road - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-20003618-16.htmlJun 06 22:46
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Why Microsoft declared war on Google over Android | Sam Pratt ... | http://samprattdesign.com/2011/why-microsoft-declared-war-on-google-over-android/Jun 06 22:46
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Android: Swimming With the Patent Sharks — Tech News and Analysis | http://gigaom.com/2010/10/05/android-swimming-with-the-patent-sharks/Jun 06 22:46
schestowitzAnyway, this is sickening, but...Jun 06 22:46
schestowitz5 years ago I was still responding to FUD attacksJun 06 22:46
Chips_B_MalroyMS will not sue Google directly, as in that path lays defeatJun 06 22:46
schestowitzTHe "they laugh at you"Jun 06 22:46
schestowitzAnd it was not easyJun 06 22:46
schestowitzI was also personally attackedJun 06 22:47
schestowitzI am no longer attacked muchJun 06 22:47
schestowitzNow they just attack mostly with patentsJun 06 22:47
schestowitzNot copyrightJun 06 22:47
schestowitzSo PJ took the highway while Webbink needs to read legaleseJun 06 22:47
Chips_B_MalroyGoblin and I got attacked just for commenting at MS Watch, must have been lots harder on you.Jun 06 22:47
schestowitzAnd then there's that lobbyist who pretends to be an "IP" expertJun 06 22:47
schestowitzDoing his disinformation wars for unnamed clientsJun 06 22:48
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: that' sooo 2007Jun 06 22:48
schestowitzI don't see many WIndows-Linux flamewars anymoreJun 06 22:48
Chips_B_Malroycause I stopped posting?Jun 06 22:48
schestowitzThe "1% market share" smear doesn't fly either, because of Android, phones, tablets, and Aple's growing clout in the USJun 06 22:49
schestowitzThe shills are busy with Apple fansJun 06 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Apple Draws Huge Crowd for Dull Event http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2386477,00.aspJun 06 22:49
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Chips_B_Malroytheir shills still use the 1% figure like its realJun 06 22:49
schestowitzIt's old FUDJun 06 22:49
schestowitzI don't see it muchJun 06 22:49
schestowitzWe used to get trolls in TR posting such nonsenseJun 06 22:50
schestowitz[among othersJun 06 22:50
Chips_B_MalroyCommon MS shill tactic is to demograde the opositionJun 06 22:50
schestowitzMicrosoft's shill is now attacking Google directly http://www.cio.com.au/article/387341/why_we_chose_exchange_online_google_apps/Jun 06 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why we chose Exchange Online, not Google Apps - Technology Topics | Cloud Computing, Technology Topics, smartphones, sharepoint, Phones, Office 365, novell, Microsoft, lync, iPhone, internet, GroupWise, google apps, Google, gmail, Exchange Online, consumer electronics, cloud computing, Blackberry - CIO .::. Size~: 86 KBJun 06 22:51
schestowitzIDG reposts his PR in so many domainsJun 06 22:51
Chips_B_MalroyMS Playbook 101:  if you have no facts and cannot win the point, then attack the messingerJun 06 22:52
_GoblinIts sort of backfired for them though....Jun 06 22:52
schestowitzActually, as I plan to state in a new post, Linux got world dominationJun 06 22:52
schestowitzAnd the trolls went awayJun 06 22:52
schestowitzEven in COLA they cannot ignore the Android elephant in the roomJun 06 22:52
_Goblinwhen the Wintrolls made it personal, they lost their position.Jun 06 22:52
schestowitzAndroid is not a phone platform, it's now for devices tooJun 06 22:52
schestowitzthat you "use like a toaster" as BBC Goblin puts itJun 06 22:53
Chips_B_Malroy"_Goblin> when the Wintrolls made it personal, they lost their position."  Only when we called them on it repeatedly.Jun 06 22:53
schestowitz_Goblin: yes, audiences could tellJun 06 22:53
schestowitzWhen one site attack the other person, they see who's shoutingJun 06 22:53
schestowitzAnd they assume who is getting emotional rather than rationslJun 06 22:53
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Chips_B_MalroyIt was a lot of effort to rebuke the shills for all their lies, they had so many.Jun 06 22:54
_GoblingnJun 06 22:54
schestowitzwe wonJun 06 22:55
schestowitzgnufreex: nn or gn?Jun 06 22:55
schestowitzearly for you..Jun 06 22:55
gnufreexschestowitz: ?Jun 06 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I can haz multiple URL shortener! http://rys.io/_0001 /very alpha; suggestions wanted! ;)Jun 06 22:56
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schestowitzgnufreex: which part?Jun 06 22:56
schestowitzRob EnderLOL:Jun 06 22:57
schestowitz"In short, much of the market suddenly went from the model that spawned Microsoft and Novell (Nasdaq: NOVL) to an earlier model that prevailed when software-only companies were vastly smaller and less powerful."Jun 06 22:57
schestowitzECT still publishes his tripeJun 06 22:57
schestowitzhttp://www.technewsworld.com/story/72522.html?wlc=1307397117Jun 06 22:57
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gnufreexschestowitz: I dont get what "nn or gn" ?Jun 06 22:57
Chips_B_MalroyMS is not really interested in buying Nokia.  Its a hardware company now, and MS has not been interested in that.  Unless MS can pick it up cheaply, which now it can, but the bottom has not been hit yet.  It maybe a year before Nokia hits rock bottom.Jun 06 22:57
schestowitzhttp://www.infoworld.com/d/application-development/uncertain-future-open-source-net-047Jun 06 22:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An uncertain future for open source .Net | Application Development - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 88.54 KBJun 06 22:59
schestowitzWHat a wrong headlinJun 06 22:59
schestowitzSee what Mono does for Microsoft?Jun 06 22:59
schestowitz"open source .Net"Jun 06 22:59
schestowitzAh... like JAVA?Jun 06 22:59
schestowitzgnufreex: good night and night night.. wondered if Tim was leaving or dispatching welfare upon Mr. LightBringerJun 06 23:00
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: Microsoft does not buy companies... except SkypeJun 06 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] We are running a Lernid testing event in 5 mins - go and download the new Lernid release from a PPA and join the session: ⌨Jun 06 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] We are running a Lernid testing event in 5 mins - go and download the new Lernid release from a PPA and join: http://is.gd/gDKCBOJun 06 23:01
schestowitzMicrosoft had not bought companies in yearsJun 06 23:01
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schestowitzIt hijacked Yahoo!Jun 06 23:01
schestowitzIt would have had to borrow $22bn to buy Yahoo!Jun 06 23:01
schestowitz!google 2010 Microsoft acquisitionsJun 06 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - 2010 Acquisitions - Microsoft | http://www.microsoft.com/investor/Stock/AcquisitonHistory/FY10/default.aspxJun 06 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft Completes Acquisition of Healthcare Software Provider ... | http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/feb10/02-02sentillionpr.mspxJun 06 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft Has Secretly Acquired 15 Companies In The Last Year | http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-acquisitions-2010-10Jun 06 23:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 2010 Acquisitions: Microsoft: 0, Google: 23 | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/28/2010-acquisitions-microsoft_n_741758.htmlJun 06 23:01
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schestowitzsee [4]Jun 06 23:01
Chips_B_MalroyAnd now MS will buy companiesJun 06 23:01
schestowitzMicrosoft was spinning itJun 06 23:01
schestowitzI covered this in TechrightsJun 06 23:02
schestowitzIt didn't even want to name the tiny symbolic thing it boughtJun 06 23:02
Chips_B_MalroyNokia is already a bargain compared to SkypeJun 06 23:02
schestowitzMaybe it bought some LLCs for all I know..Jun 06 23:02
schestowitzFor the patents maybe...Jun 06 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Launchpad Blog: JavaScript development: YUI testing http://ping.fm/HTMFDJun 06 23:02
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schestowitzWow. There's no Novell newsJun 06 23:03
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schestowitzNot much to write about a company that no longer existsJun 06 23:03
schestowitzI'm just trying to track which exec goes whereJun 06 23:03
Chips_B_MalroyFor patents or just to break it up and sell the pieces.  Cause we both know MS cannot run a hardware company.Jun 06 23:03
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: I may need your help cataloguing Microsoft stuff tooJun 06 23:03
schestowitzWould you be willing to helpJun 06 23:03
Chips_B_MalroysomeJun 06 23:04
schestowitzLike a post where I provide you links to Microsoft major departures from this year?Jun 06 23:04
Chips_B_Malroybut it be a few days before I canJun 06 23:04
schestowitzOK, cool..Jun 06 23:04
schestowitzMicrosoft- like Novell- has few years leftJun 06 23:04
Chips_B_Malroythat if I can get my account or new workingJun 06 23:04
schestowitzThis needs to be documented, like SCO.Jun 06 23:04
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schestowitztechrights still provides people with information about Novell and it's climbing in alexa traffic ranks, despite the fact I don't write as much as beforeJun 06 23:05
schestowitzWe need to make use of that and keep abreast of Microsoft's demiseJun 06 23:05
schestowitzI have good tools for summarising the newsJun 06 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You can see why Flash is the number one target; it's such a big target, that's why http://ping.fm/tcotLJun 06 23:06
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schestowitzWe sometimes edit here: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Work_in_ProgressJun 06 23:06
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Chips_B_MalroyThe patent story is only a part of the story, the real story is the greater story about profits, money, and greed.  Which patents play a part in.Jun 06 23:06
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Chips_B_MalroyThe demise of Nokia at the hands of the mole is a huge story.Jun 06 23:07
Chips_B_MalroyIMOJun 06 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Free Press files tethering complaint against Verizon (Network World): http://bit.ly/khj5pSJun 06 23:09
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Chips_B_MalroyI notice a lot of the thinking from techrights comes out and seems to be absorbed into the main tech sites in just a few days now.Jun 06 23:10
Chips_B_MalroyTechrights seems to have more influence Jun 06 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Talk privacy rights w/@marciahofmann at EFF's Members-Only Speakeasy: Seattle. RSVP today! https://eff.org/r.68nJun 06 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: The Anatomy of a BitTorrent Piracy Settlement http://is.gd/UVcNnS !piracy !filesharingJun 06 23:14
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schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: it doesJun 06 23:17
schestowitzIMHOJun 06 23:17
schestowitzBut we don't get the big people to associate themselves with it, despite reading itJun 06 23:17
schestowitzGordon suggested we stop using names like "Vista 7" and I agreed with him at the end to concede..Jun 06 23:18
schestowitzAnyway, it's time that I lack nowJun 06 23:18
schestowitzAnd I spent about 20 hours this weekend outdoors with friends and stuff, occupying time I usually use for research on the siteJun 06 23:18
schestowitzThe weekend before that I worked on 450 videosJun 06 23:19
Chips_B_Malroyone has to have a life tooJun 06 23:19
schestowitzHeh. It seems out latest techbytes episode is a hitJun 06 23:19
schestowitzThe trolls started like 3 threads with 50 messages in themJun 06 23:19
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: depends on how one defines likeJun 06 23:19
schestowitz*lifeJun 06 23:19
Chips_B_MalroyI stopped commenting on Goblin's site awhile back, as I did not want to spend time replying to Lumpy's flames.  Remember the flameware here in the comments I had with him.  Just too much time.  Was hoping he would just go away if I left, which he did.Jun 06 23:24
DaemonFChttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/229439/iphone_5_phishing_attack_preys_on_wwdc_hype.htmlJun 06 23:24
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Chips_B_MalroyThe shills waste your time, but you must respond to their FUD, or else others read it and take it for truth.Jun 06 23:25
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sebsebsebHey jono are you around?  If so I would like to ask you something :)Jun 06 23:27
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sebsebsebjono: to do with how you send messages to different social networking sitesJun 06 23:27
sebsebseband the same messageJun 06 23:27
sebsebsebalso schestowitz you do something like that don't you as well? ^Jun 06 23:28
_Goblinwhat are you trying to do?Jun 06 23:28
sebsebseb_Goblin: I want the  @mageia user not sending to the group issues fixed.  at the moemnt not even to the tag anymore either, but maybe that's since  someone else is sending the messages now.  Anyway they want to send the same message to Twitter and Facebook as well, and maybe some other sites as well, but for months now it hasn't been sending to the group.Jun 06 23:29
sebsebseb_Goblin: and it seems the marketting team will get access to it on Identica :)  only one woman so far thoughJun 06 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] "Slashdot blogger hairyfeet saw it differently."Jun 06 23:29
sebsebseb_Goblin: so what if,  the message is sent from Identica and so yep !, and you told me earlier for Twitter it would convert to # anyway?Jun 06 23:29
sebsebseband then Facebook has an add on or something doesn't it, so it can pick up Tweets?  well I seen how for example Jono has stuff coming in from Twitter to FacebookJun 06 23:30
sebsebseb_Goblin: maybe this is the solution to the problem :),  but maybe they are sending the news to some other sites as well, I don't knowJun 06 23:30
_GoblinI only pipe data between identi.ca and twitter (oh and my site) ........ you can set identi.ca up to automatically do this (and the ! will be changed to # automatically)Jun 06 23:30
_Goblinwhen it hits twitterJun 06 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @dbd Holding Nintendo Accountable http://www.defectivebydesign.org/holding-nintendo-accountableJun 06 23:31
_GoblinIve been using Gwibber recently which can do it for you......Jun 06 23:31
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sebsebsebI didn't know that  it converts ! to #  untill you said earlierJun 06 23:31
_GoblinyeahJun 06 23:31
sebsebseb_Goblin: I been using Gwibber recently as wellJun 06 23:31
_Goblina little buggyJun 06 23:31
_Goblin(Gwibber)Jun 06 23:31
sebsebseb_Goblin: unforuntalty I Have to send a email explaining about the problems and that to the marketting team mailign listJun 06 23:31
sebsebsebto be taken seriouslyJun 06 23:31
_GoblinI've been denting via cli (cURL)Jun 06 23:31
sebsebsebcomplaining on IRC a few times to the Mageia founders about  this, and the group not having a logo for that matter, whilst the user does, isn't enoughJun 06 23:32
_Goblinmy Mageia article was linked on the frontpage of TuxmachinesJun 06 23:32
sebsebseband well I don't really type emails that well,  and well I had a draft  from before, that I would change now, and then would want someone to have a look at it properly before I send as wel, and uhJun 06 23:32
sebsebsebemails uhJun 06 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google employees earn the most, while !Facebook has the youngest workforce http://feedly.com/k/kFoFtLJun 06 23:32
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sebsebseb_Goblin: and I am going to dent it to the !mageia group, but haven't yetJun 06 23:33
sebsebseb_Goblin: also on the subject of the Mageia group, well we have had a sort of troll there already now, and recently, see for yourself if interestdJun 06 23:33
_GoblinI keep meaning to look at Mageia Gnome......Jun 06 23:33
sebsebseband he's started  his own group for Mageia, with a really stupid name as well hmmJun 06 23:33
sebsebseb_Goblin: I kept on maeaning to install the Gnome 3 ppa after putting hte 11.04 final onJun 06 23:34
sebsebseb,but now it's been about a month, and still not done it, well maybe tonight or something then hmmJun 06 23:34
sebsebseband I want to get off Ubuntu 11.04 quite soon after thatJun 06 23:34
sebsebsebgive Ubuntu 11.10 alpha 1 a try on here for a bit,  then Fedora 15, and then put Mageia 1 on :)Jun 06 23:34
_GoblinI don't think it will be long before I go the route of XfceJun 06 23:34
sebsebsebwell  I might tyr out whatever development version Mandriva 2011 i on before putting Mageia 1Jun 06 23:34
_GoblinDon't like the direction Gnome is takingJun 06 23:34
sebsebsebyeah I saw your dent about not likeing Fedora by defaultJun 06 23:35
sebsebsebI  was going to reply to that, but hadn'tJun 06 23:35
_GoblinIt was awfulJun 06 23:35
sebsebsebdon't like Gnome Shell why?Jun 06 23:35
_Goblinreally awfulJun 06 23:35
_Goblinyou don't feel in controlJun 06 23:35
_Goblinit feels like it should be on a tablet not a desktopJun 06 23:35
sebsebsebwell Unity is like that as well really, from what I have seenJun 06 23:35
_Goblinyep...Jun 06 23:35
sebsebsebUnity isn't really made for the desktop, and you hardly get any control over it at this timeJun 06 23:35
_Goblinbut Unity was a hit with my wifeJun 06 23:36
_Goblinand you have the trusted Canonical nameJun 06 23:36
sebsebseb_Goblin: well for the next one,  Ubuntu Studio will be switching from Gnome to XFCE, by the wayJun 06 23:36
_Goblinyeah, Im going to be looking at that shortly.Jun 06 23:36
sebsebseb_Goblin: as for KDE, well I don't really get on that well with KDE 4 myself, I mean as a desktop envrionment, I mean I can  use it when a distro sets it up good for me by default, like Mageia, Mandriva, and PC Linux OS would,  and then enable  the background changer slide show, but any more then that, and I get in a messJun 06 23:37
sebsebsebcan't even just drag icons on the bar at the bottom wehre I want them, without getting in a mess, in my experienceJun 06 23:37
sebsebsebit doesn't work like Gnome 2 for that kind of thingJun 06 23:38
sebsebseb_Goblin: as for Mageia's Gnome, well very much so like Mandriva 2010.2 and suchJun 06 23:39
sebsebsebthe menu will be a bit differnet from Ubuntu for appsJun 06 23:39
sebsebsebby defaultJun 06 23:39
sebsebseb_Goblin: well ok not  really been able to try Mageia 1 properly since alpha 1 for various reasons yet,  well not tried RC Live CD or final,  well anyway whatever, going by alpha 1 so probably just like this in the final, like I am saying the menu is set up a bit diffenretly from UbuntuJun 06 23:40
sebsebsebno applicaitons > assessories for exampleJun 06 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Have u gotten ur #linux20th web badge? Get it here & start celebrating! We r getting close: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/20th #linuxconJun 06 23:41
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sebsebsebhowever rather clean upstream like Gnome 2 really,  no sound menu and what not patches like Ubuntu hasJun 06 23:41
sebsebseb_Goblin: talked earlier about  some people thinking stuff was missing in the dev channel earlier, and also linked to your blog post, and well it was suggested by oune of the main founders, to report any missing packages as bug reportsJun 06 23:41
_GoblinI think (since I do a little hobby dev on the a500) the emulation section needs work...in particular I want to see E-UAEJun 06 23:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Demoparty coming to Pune, India https://mozillalabs.com/blog/2011/06/demoparty-coming-to-pune-india/Jun 06 23:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @ghostdancerJun 06 23:59

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