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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #rant0 Oh yeah, baby! :D | Jun 08 00:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @AndyMilstead Write letters to your congressmen about #swpat reform. Change doesn't come about by giving in | Jun 08 00:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Will #Bristol push its citizens to pay tax due to #Microsoft and use OOXML? http://is.gd/g6PRG0 http://is.gd/8CQ3HY http://is.gd/FRDtfq | Jun 08 00:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: System integrators render Cabinet Office open source strategy unworkable, MPs told - 6/7/2011 - Computer Weekly .::. Size~: 69.06 KB | Jun 08 00:03 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The end of open source down the Counts Louse? | Bristol Wireless – community IT services, help and training in your aerial .::. Size~: 42.2 KB | Jun 08 00:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Computacenter blamed in public sector open source row .::. Size~: 39.93 KB | Jun 08 00:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] LibreOffice motors right along with a new release: http://wmk.me/j8xIo5 | Jun 08 00:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LibreOffice motors right along with a new release | ZDNet .::. Size~: 99.01 KB | Jun 08 00:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apache Web Server Grows http://is.gd/uBOTl2 because it's better, not just because it's free | Jun 08 00:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apache Web Server Grows at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 32.62 KB | Jun 08 00:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Speaking of scandals... http://i.imgur.com/rj99I.jpg | Jun 08 00:09 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75694514 | Jun 08 00:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 07-Jun-11 22:59:40 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Is this true ??? http://bit.ly/iYh77y | Jun 08 00:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Will Microsoft Buy NVIDIA to Create Proprietary Chips for Windows 8? .::. Size~: 74.72 KB | Jun 08 00:10 |
| schestowitz | No | Jun 08 00:10 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75694934 | Jun 08 00:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 07-Jun-11 23:07:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Could happen ??? Would be disastrous 4 Linux & Open Source software if it would happen. | Jun 08 00:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Everybody Chill! The Nvidia-Microsoft Pact Is Actually 11 Years Old. http://is.gd/WRrdZG "every quarterly filing for more than a decade." | Jun 08 00:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Everybody Chill! The Nvidia-Microsoft Pact Is Actually 11 Years Old. – AllThingsD .::. Size~: 94.69 KB | Jun 08 00:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh shit! Turns out I still have @davidmarsden blocked and I can't ublock him. Oo | Jun 08 00:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some people think that with more loans and buyouts #Microsoft can still turn things around. ಠ_ಠ #entryism a bigger threat ($0 buyouts). | Jun 08 00:19 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/78093552164405248 http://twitter.com/stshank/status/78041170369986562 | Jun 08 00:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @Enderle The consummation of the deal being months away is just a little detail. Conspiracy theories shouldn't be dismissed over that :-) | Jun 08 00:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @stshank: .@fosspatents details an Oracle expert's proposal for how Google should pay big bucks for Java patents: http://bit.ly/iJ0Bmf #cnet | Jun 08 00:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: FOSS Patents: Oracle wants a huge cut of Google's mobile advertising revenue plus compensation for fragmentation of Java .::. Size~: 87.69 KB | Jun 08 00:23 |
| schestowitz | Floran and Enderle attacking using journalists whom they spam? | Jun 08 00:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, I really need to go to bed now. Work and whatnot in the morning. | Jun 08 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] uh-oh, everyone take cover. the day @schestowitz tells people to chill is the day that stallman advocates windows... | Jun 08 00:26 | |
| schestowitz | http://business.financialpost.com/2011/06/07/bootup-did-apple-just-monetize-piracy/ | Jun 08 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bootup: Did Apple just monetize piracy? | FP Tech Desk | Financial Post .::. Size~: 64.71 KB | Jun 08 00:26 |
| schestowitz | "piracy" | Jun 08 00:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] uh oh... here i am doing Identica housekeeping when i should be working on the ebook conversion stuff ... muy bad | Jun 08 00:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stav @glynmoody Denting is the antidote for working hahaha | Jun 08 00:28 | |
| DaemonFC | http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20069844-266/comcast-expands-into-home-security-biz/ | Jun 08 00:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Comcast expands into home security biz | Signal Strength - CNET News .::. Size~: 94.28 KB | Jun 08 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | wonder if it's as good as their TV and internet service :) | Jun 08 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | "The home security market is worth about $8 billion annually" | Jun 08 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | a gun is cheaper and more effective | Jun 08 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | than a service that calls the police after you've been raped and murdered | Jun 08 00:32 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/75695496 | Jun 08 00:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 07-Jun-11 23:17:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Actually I fear M$ buys out everything, and then, we would have to pay M$'s Tax in every computer device. :-/ | Jun 08 00:33 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/75695529 | Jun 08 00:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 07-Jun-11 23:18:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz But then, they would have to have a money printer, huh ? ;-) | Jun 08 00:33 |
| schestowitz | That's what they make the patent cartels for | Jun 08 00:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HUGE explosion on the Sun on June 7, 2011 http://is.gd/bhSBBn !playogg #astronomy | Jun 08 00:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana gotta sue the physicists that “invented” them, eh? | Jun 08 00:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/75696513 | Jun 08 00:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 07-Jun-11 23:34:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ha, that artificial patent tax too... | Jun 08 00:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 7/6/2011: Platform 11, New Wine http://is.gd/KDB5tR #techrights | Jun 08 00:54 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RnygS7opCA | Jun 08 00:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana besides, GPLv3 only requires Installation Information for software that is part of a User Product, not a sw distro | Jun 08 00:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] oh, nice, @mairin unblocked me, but I got no notification, and the subscription wasn't reinstated. done by hand now | Jun 08 00:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] CNN to air anti-WikiLeaks documentary full of the usual slanders http://is.gd/5cSGMo | Jun 08 01:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WSJ and Al-Jazeera Lure Whistleblowers With False Promises of Anonymity | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 25.06 KB | Jun 08 01:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @favianna Our first legislative victory: The Inside Story http://www.iyjl.org/?p=2265 | Jun 08 01:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Our first legislative victory: The Inside Story | Immigrant Youth Justice League .::. Size~: 40.27 KB | Jun 08 01:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fisl: mad dog em uma foto "interessante" http://ur1.ca/4d7cl // aquela dele e Linus nus na sauna, que ele mostra em palestras? :-) | Jun 08 01:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: O #FISL se aproxima! Jon "mad dog" Hall em uma foto... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 12.13 KB | Jun 08 01:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Achievement unlocked: set up Tor relays, get a @MollyCrabapple poster https://eff.org/r.462 #torchallenge HT @TorProject | Jun 08 01:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] CNN to air anti-WikiLeaks documentary full of the usual slanders http://is.gd/JfZmDk | Jun 08 01:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @revistaespiritolivre na grade do VIII Evidosol (evento online). A palestra é amanhã. Programação: http://papers.textolivre.org/pub/ | Jun 08 01:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Achievement Unlocked: Set Up Tor Relays, Get a Molly Crabapple Poster | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 21.1 KB | Jun 08 01:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Today is IPv6 Test Day. Firing up my servers! http://test-ipv6.com/ipv6day.html | Jun 08 01:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US lied about the number of children in Guantanamo bay http://is.gd/8ptrLw | Jun 08 01:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UC Davis News & Information :: More youth at Guantánamo than U.S. claimed .::. Size~: 20.92 KB | Jun 08 01:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] With Humala's win, Peru turns to the left http://is.gd/k5IhOT context: http://is.gd/3cSANI | Jun 08 01:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The LibreOffice 3.4 New Features page is splendid; thumbnails and developer recognition are a big win: http://wmk.me/lLFmO2 | Jun 08 01:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: With Humala's win, Peru turns to the left - Opinion - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 112.57 KB | Jun 08 01:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks cables: The great equaliser in Peru - Features - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 119.97 KB | Jun 08 01:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 3.4 New Features and Fixes » LibreOffice .::. Size~: 24.14 KB | Jun 08 01:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Listening to !rantofabkuhn | Jun 08 01:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Making your add-ons compatible with Firefox 5 and 6 http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/06/07/making-compatible-with-firefox-5-and-6/ | Jun 08 01:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Making your add-ons compatible with Firefox 5 and 6 | Mozilla Add-ons Blog .::. Size~: 21.32 KB | Jun 08 01:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Dev Derby – a monthly competition of demos using open technologies http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/06/dev-derby-a-monthly-competition-of-demos | Jun 08 02:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dev Derby – a monthly competition of demos using open technologies ✩ Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog .::. Size~: 25.9 KB | Jun 08 02:08 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - The UN wants to take your guns away | Jun 08 02:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @tmarble "We need stronger upstreams. That's why I steal their lunch money. It makes them tougher." | Jun 08 02:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @fontana Shun the sinner! ;p | Jun 08 02:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Hmm, maybe I should try !Fedora 15 with #Fluxbox or something like that | Jun 08 02:24 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Jun 08 03:16 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom | Jun 08 03:16 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010 | Jun 08 03:16 | |
| -NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz. | Jun 08 03:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Aw, man. I can't use #KDE. Too much use of the letter K for my taste. | Jun 08 03:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] How did *she* get into this? Disappointed with zdnet. http://ur1.ca/4d84g !kvm | Jun 08 03:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Virtualization and the Third Party Kiss-off. | ZDNet .::. Size~: 114.21 KB | Jun 08 03:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia RD @opentrends: Mageia 1 is out! http://ping.fm/8mZg8 | Jun 08 03:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia RD @firestarter87: #Mageia: Is It A Kind Of Magic? http://goo.gl/S8ayc #mandriva !linux | Jun 08 04:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Listening to !faifcast 0x11 | Jun 08 04:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Oh man, inaccuracies about #RHEL by @bkuhn on !faifcast 0x11 | Jun 08 04:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] This episode 0x11 of !faifcast is a #travesty | Jun 08 04:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Stop Assault on Maine Voter Rights http://signon.org/s/jU8NSb | Jun 08 04:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia #LinuxTag RD @tux2: !RadioTux @ LinuxTag 2011: Interview mit ‘wobo’ über #Mageia » http://ur1.ca/4ctna | Jun 08 04:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell Congress: Tax millionaires and billionaires rather than shred the social safety net. http://bit.ly/eHFzhw | Jun 08 04:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Shuttle docked to ISS http://ur1.ca/4d65i !science | Jun 08 04:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Inbox Influence: plugin reveals corporate money behind the emails in your inbox http://ur1.ca/4d87y | Jun 08 04:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Russian court rejects parole application because lawyers couldn't prove hes in jail http://ur1.ca/4d885 #wtf #policestate | Jun 08 04:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Open Source Bussard Fusion Reactor on KickStarter http://ur1.ca/4d888 !science | Jun 08 04:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Non- #RHEL -oriented comments on !faifcast 0x11 are helpful | Jun 08 04:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Macedonia erupts after young man beaten to death by special police in public square http://ur1.ca/4d88d | Jun 08 04:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Cops let dog die in car http://ur1.ca/4d88f #policestate | Jun 08 04:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Siemens SCADA Flaws To Be Disclosed At Black Hat http://ur1.ca/4d88l | Jun 08 04:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] navegação #GVT show de bola, enquanto #NET saiu do ar e nem me deixou assistir ao show de bola | Jun 08 04:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Cops crush cellphones and point guns at the heads of people who filmed them opening fire on a car http://ur1.ca/4cp5q #policestate | Jun 08 04:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] School suspends student for refusing to remove video from YouTube, threatens students for petitioning http://ur1.ca/4d88x #policestate | Jun 08 04:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] #Santander, explicaí esse módulo de proteção que, ausente, impede transferência pela 1ª titular da conta, mas permite ao 2º titular! | Jun 08 04:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Anonymous 's message to NATO http://ur1.ca/4d5yy !wl | Jun 08 04:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The US IPO cartel http://ur1.ca/4d894 | Jun 08 04:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] alguém mais teve surpresa desagradável com o Módulo de Infiltração do #Santander? sabe o que ele faz ao acessar outros bancos? | Jun 08 04:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mandriva and !Mageia also mentioned in this @pclinuxos dent :): http://identi.ca/notice/75585986 Also known as Centre btw :)! !PCLOS !Mdv | Jun 08 04:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @pclinuxos (pclinuxos)'s status on Monday, 06-Jun-11 21:00:49 UTC - Identi.ca: Updating some code in the drakxtools aka the PCLinuxOS Control Center also known as the Mandriva & Mageia Control Center. | Jun 08 04:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] “Fort-Una-se!” http://ur1.ca/4d8b5 na @revistaespiritolivre de maio! | Jun 08 04:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] OK, second half of !faifcast 0x11 is rather good | Jun 08 05:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia RD @malcer: En sólo un mes !Mageia se posiciona en el “top ten” de DistroWatch: http://ur1.ca/4cyqy || #Linux #GNU | Jun 08 05:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: En sólo un mes Mageia se posiciona en el “top ten” de DistroWatch « ext4 Blog, el rincón de Malcer .::. Size~: 78.72 KB | Jun 08 05:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke Thanks, I'm always open to facts (I've only heard of #Androids... and in fact think androids ought to have positronic brains !Asimov | Jun 08 05:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia RD @gespadas: Mageia, un fork de Mandriva que promete (incluye completa Galería de 30 Capturas de Pantalla) » http://bit.ly/mageia1 | Jun 08 05:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mageia, un fork de Mandriva que promete (incluye completa Galería de Capturas de Pantalla) | Gespadas .::. Size~: 42.4 KB | Jun 08 05:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke @quaid Let me make sure I have this straight now: in other words Android is GNU-less Linux? | Jun 08 05:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke Is Android something to do with the GPL version schism? | Jun 08 05:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia RD @firestarter87: Distro-test: Mageia 1 http://post.ly/2AdeW | Jun 08 05:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @clacke Okay, I thought I'd heard something about that. Thanks. | Jun 08 05:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Need to buy a cheap (~$20 - $30) USB webcam that will work out of the box in Ubuntu and sit on top my monitor. Recommendations? #ubuntu | Jun 08 06:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wearing my new Mario mushroom shirt. Has a big shroom on it and says "Get a life" Hehehehe.... :D | Jun 08 06:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Something in this testing framework is *helping me* and I don't like it. Stop parsing my strings! | Jun 08 06:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @marjoleink @kevie @mjjzf @weeguy | Jun 08 06:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @weeguy Jvçjgdyc. | Jun 08 06:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Oh. It wasn't a string, I was the one doing it wrong ... | Jun 08 07:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk All kids have different requirements, some are more high need than others, but underlaying they all need to know love & support | Jun 08 07:26 | |
| schestowitz | [02:11] <ender2070> DaemonFC - The UN wants to take your guns away | Jun 08 07:28 |
| schestowitz | Good! | Jun 08 07:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #twit301 "The iPhone 4 BS" - John C. Dvorak | Jun 08 07:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk are you the oldest? | Jun 08 07:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/78320003484631040 | Jun 08 07:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz http://validador.ipv6.br/index.php?site=www.techrights.org&lang=en | Jun 08 07:37 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmm... how does one go about addressing it? | Jun 08 07:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Tim O'Reilly (EE.UU.): "Necesitamos una Seria Reforma de Patentes de Software." http://is.gd/z9QqIU #swpats #uk #monopoly | Jun 08 07:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ES: Tim O’Reilly (EE.UU.): “Necesitamos una Seria Reforma de Patentes de Software.” | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.9 KB | Jun 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75702517 | Jun 08 07:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Srinivas V (srini)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 01:11:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz thats what ubuntu is aiming at. | Jun 08 07:38 |
| schestowitz | re "Review: #RedHat Fedora 15 http://is.gd/VcU3Fe scored highly, so well done, !fedora (gotta love how they say "Red Hat Fedora 15")" | Jun 08 07:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Review: Red Hat Fedora 15 - reviews for IT Leaders - Computing .::. Size~: 100.48 KB | Jun 08 07:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sweet dreams @tekk | Jun 08 07:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: @magicbus Support from friends can sometimes be far better than support from counselors || +∞ | Jun 08 07:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp RT @andyidsinga Ujwals & my presentation (vid) from MeeGo 2011 building web apps for Intel's AppUp.. http://bit.ly/e49oyX | Jun 08 07:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: We had a great time at MeeGoConf! Missed it? Catch up on the fun through our Facebook photo album: http://on.fb.me/m1krs9 | Jun 08 07:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Turn your HTML & JavaScript web code into MeeGo apps using AppUp encapsulator | MeeGo Conference San Francisco May 23-25, 2011 .::. Size~: 19.04 KB | Jun 08 07:41 |
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| schestowitz | Nice: http://i.imgur.com/hr7aH.jpg | Jun 08 07:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hyper-inflation [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/1CkLS.jpg | Jun 08 07:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Texrat: RT @ibrahimatlinux: "An Introduction Into Open Build Service (OBS)" is now available from http://bit.ly/mgSASM #MeeGo | Jun 08 07:43 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sign Up for the Free Linux Foundation Publication "An Introduction Into Open Build Service (OBS)" | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 33.64 KB | Jun 08 07:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] however, i am seriously in need of sleep, and in my delirium I seem to be overdosing on advice dispensation... | Jun 08 07:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good night !Identiverse | Jun 08 07:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is anybody aware of some SF.net stats that can show the GPL growing in usage? Are the only ones 'tracking' licences coming from Microsoft? | Jun 08 07:48 | |
| schestowitz | Microsofter has a word for apache http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=2567 | Jun 08 07:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open letter to Apache regarding OpenOffice / LibreOffice « keithcu.com .::. Size~: 20.62 KB | Jun 08 07:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trying image ]recognition using the same similarity measure I was using in my Ph.D. 8 years ago for image registration. Works well! | Jun 08 07:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "If we knew what we were doing it wouldn't be research." ~Einstein, Albert | Jun 08 07:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Immoral: video demo of an upcoming email client for #N900 http://is.gd/zCNyD7 thread at TMO http://is.gd/hDHQo0 #Maemo | Jun 08 07:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LibreOffice motors right along with a new release http://is.gd/x2FOLH Microsoft folks already try to influence Apache re code of #OpenOffice | Jun 08 07:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LibreOffice motors right along with a new release | ZDNet .::. Size~: 130.25 KB | Jun 08 07:58 |
| WiFi_N | Hello, anyone there? | Jun 08 07:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #twit301 When McCracken says Facebook, it sounds like "facefuck" | Jun 08 08:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Report From Beyond: #Linux Sound & Music At #VirginiaTech http://is.gd/YcHb7Y "similar programming environments for the Android" | Jun 08 08:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Report From Beyond: Linux Sound & Music At Virginia Tech | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 55.48 KB | Jun 08 08:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Windows killed my laptop, again http://is.gd/7hnTCj "Not sure how Windows kills itself, but Linux continues to work fine." | Jun 08 08:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @macno Happy !IPv6 Day | Jun 08 08:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux in Exile: Windows killed my laptop, again .::. Size~: 69.53 KB | Jun 08 08:04 |
| amarsh04 | can anyone access the streaming media at http://acma.viotv.com/Default.aspx?section=831e760e-b4c6-4724-a6da-a73fb0c92d8a,0,DateAdded - I can't access my own presentation | Jun 08 08:05 |
| schestowitz | Hi, WiFi_N | Jun 08 08:05 |
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| WiFi_N | Hi. | Jun 08 08:05 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: the bot can... | Jun 08 08:05 |
| schestowitz | WiFi_N: what's up? | Jun 08 08:05 |
| WiFi_N | Its [slash]ignore to ignore the bot right? | Jun 08 08:05 |
| WiFi_N | Nevermind. | Jun 08 08:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How's the Linux Desktop Doing? http://is.gd/idAzlC "Linux doesn’t live in the one size fits all world of the proprietary operating system" | Jun 08 08:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I really don't wanna be sexist but all the women on #TWiT lately only parrot back word-for-word what Leo said and then plug their projects. | Jun 08 08:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Kernel.org now has #IPv6 enabled for some services http://bit.ly/l8AamW "[…] close to one of the single biggest changes we've had […]" #korg | Jun 08 08:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Holy crap! This is amazing...... http://sixgun.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=59721 !miners | Jun 08 08:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Far Lands (Page 1) / SMP Server / Sixgun Forums .::. Size~: 13.27 KB | Jun 08 08:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @q4td “The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him.” — Stanislaw Jerszy Lec !q http://j.m ... | Jun 08 08:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This is way cool.... The !Miners peeps are building the Colosseum: http://sixgun.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3644 -- CC @macno @carlopiana | Jun 08 08:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Colosseum (Page 1) / SMP Server / Sixgun Forums .::. Size~: 22.84 KB | Jun 08 08:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] wat?! !kubuntu #natty has !kde sc 4.6.2? thought 4.6.4 was being used? how/where can I get 4.6.4, then?.. | Jun 08 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One in four US hackers is an FBI informer http://is.gd/iaswIH the #FBI has special software to crack #Microsoft #Windows http://is.gd/hUAMxo | Jun 08 08:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: One in four US hackers 'is an FBI informer' | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 222.67 KB | Jun 08 08:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh: that's ubercool, though I barely know what you are talking about ;-) | Jun 08 08:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SFLC challenges #BlackDuck to open source code http://is.gd/cMtSpW "doesn't give any information on how the three hundred new sites added" | Jun 08 08:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Long before #BlackDuck [which he founded], in the early 1990s, Levin was a marketing manager at Microsoft" http://is.gd/xIJ0MT #gpl #fud | Jun 08 08:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SFLC challenges Black Duck to open source code - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.16 KB | Jun 08 08:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In Microsoft.com there are .DOC files that portray the #GPL as some kind of disease. Microsoft wants to kill copyleft.\ | Jun 08 08:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Funnily enough, 'analysts' who now claim #GPL to be declining are funded by Microsoft (as client). | Jun 08 08:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Analysts sell out - that’s their business model" -Microsoft http://is.gd/Vz3570 | Jun 08 08:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] So what is Ensemble anyway? http://is.gd/V9bQWf #redhat | Jun 08 08:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Interview: Troy Dawson from Scientific Linux | MontanaLinux.org .::. Size~: 35.48 KB | Jun 08 08:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Linux is a cancer that #Attachmate itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches." ~Microsoft CEO (against copyleft) | Jun 08 08:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] My copy of #w7 updated w/o asking, now refuses to skip updates and I'm stuck at 0%. What a #fail is that? http://ur1.ca/4d9dl | Jun 08 08:43 | |
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| schestowitz | tessier: https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/78356791288807424 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/78356990790877184 | Jun 08 08:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz Talk to your hosting provider, I guess. The hosting provider needs to have IPv6 space. The rest is DNS and web server config. | Jun 08 08:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz ironically most well-known hosting sites like US Site5 (site5.com) are not reacheable from the IPv6 side of the net yet :-/ | Jun 08 08:48 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/78358325053501440 https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/78359894541090816 | Jun 08 08:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz FYI: http://www.fix6.net/ipv6-webhosting/ | Jun 08 08:48 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz The main prob w desktoplinux is t theres no reliable metrics.Why is it 2diff to agree on a comon install "ping" by all distros? | Jun 08 08:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @fcassia: @schestowitz for a list of Ballmer statements (incomplete ) http://is.gd/jGleNF | Jun 08 08:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Comment: We expose Steve Ballmer's great big bloomers - Our top Ballmer disasters | TechEye .::. Size~: 37.69 KB | Jun 08 08:51 |
| amarsh04 | Linux version 3.0.0-git20 | Jun 08 08:52 |
| MinceR | yawnings | Jun 08 09:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fucking Hermes! Their next shop is 150m as the crow flies from my flat and they can't find my fucking address? | Jun 08 09:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And then they don't even tell me when they fail to deliver twice and I have to chase them up by phone??? Die in hell, Hermes! Retards. | Jun 08 09:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Angry email to Amazon dispatched. Since they force you to use Hermes, their customer service went from 5/5 to 2/5 in Germany. | Jun 08 09:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China increases Internet control, takes down hundreds of websites - http://tnw.co/kGFcgB #sarkozy will be delighted #civilisation | Jun 08 09:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: China increases Internet control, takes down hundreds of websites - TNW Asia .::. Size~: 77.11 KB | Jun 08 09:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft #Skype is fuming at the idea of others accessing friends/family on Skype using FOSS clients http://is.gd/qTdPIJ antitrust? | Jun 08 09:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Happy #IPv6 Day - http://bit.ly/jNHlX3 "here's a link round-up to celebrate." handy | Jun 08 09:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Whole Foods admits its organic foods contain genetically modified ingredients - http://bit.ly/lPL5so is this where #EU is heading too? #gm | Jun 08 09:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Despite its efforts, even Whole Foods cannot keep GMOs out of the products it sells (correction) .::. Size~: 54.83 KB | Jun 08 09:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Barbie's Mattel using paper packaging from one of worst forest-trashing companies - http://bit.ly/j7D1qI please sign & RT | Jun 08 09:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is #Twitter bringing us closer together? - http://bit.ly/kILbKy in my experience, yes #sociology | Jun 08 09:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Twitter bringing us closer toghether? | TechnoLlama .::. Size~: 100.82 KB | Jun 08 09:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] World Oceans Day - http://bit.ly/kVfB9s not just #IPv6 day; good see these comments from EU commissioner for seas & #fish | Jun 08 09:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #Taming posters are here! :) !busc http://ur1.ca/4d9lv | Jun 08 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] iTunes Match is iPiracy, claims loopy Oz industry troll - http://bit.ly/jCqUS5 well, that didn't take long #apple | Jun 08 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @vk7hse: @fabsh cobblestone, cobblestone get your fresh cobblestone here! | Jun 08 09:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file.status.net/i/identica/fabsh-20110608T082112-vwb8sxe.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.01 KB | Jun 08 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Music labels jump the shark • The Register .::. Size~: 17.09 KB | Jun 08 09:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Designed by Tom from !Creepers, BTW. :D♺ @fabsh: #Taming posters are here! :) http://ur1.ca/4d9lv | Jun 08 09:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: http://file.status.net/i/identica/fabsh-20110608T082112-vwb8sxe.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.02 KB | Jun 08 09:29 |
| *koolhead11|afk is now known as koolhead11 | Jun 08 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fabsh: MP3.com was far ahead of its time, alas | Jun 08 09:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Wolfram Alpha creator plans to delete the #PDF - replaced by fee-based, & presumably closed, format: daft & unnecessary (v @copyrightgirl) | Jun 08 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Wolfram Alpha creator plans to delete the #PDF - http://tgr.ph/lEhbz5 fee-based & presumably closed: daft & unnecessary (v @copyrightgirl) | Jun 08 09:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wolfram Alpha creator plans to delete the PDF - Telegraph .::. Size~: 74.47 KB | Jun 08 09:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] AR.Drone coming to #Android, gets new multiplayer games - http://bit.ly/m90N9y smartphone as universal controller #robotics | Jun 08 09:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Judge rebukes youth who boasted on #Facebook http://drpl.it/Zxd | Jun 08 09:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] found a funky #Drupal themed url shortener for #Chrome called Drupl.it | Jun 08 09:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh you need arms to hold the weapons right? | Jun 08 09:56 | |
| koolhead11 | schestowitz, hi | Jun 08 09:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The real #Ophelia? 1569 coroner's report suggests #Shakespeare link - http://bit.ly/k0gR5e fascinating stuff | Jun 08 10:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The real Ophelia? 1569 coroner's report suggests Shakespeare link | Culture | The Guardian .::. Size~: 93.48 KB | Jun 08 10:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] God I wish I was at E3 right now. | Jun 08 10:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] #LibreOffice Hackfest in #Munich - you can still vote on the date. :-) http://www.doodle.com/i7pw9wubvdhdyzm4 !libo !tdf | Jun 08 10:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Doodle: LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich .::. Size~: 22.92 KB | Jun 08 10:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Beethoven Complete Chronological Catalogue on Spotify - http://bit.ly/jgCyea great use of #spotify to create alternative paths through music | Jun 08 10:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Spotify Classical Playlists: Beethoven Complete Chronological Catalogue on Spotify .::. Size~: 87.79 KB | Jun 08 10:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Creative Commons & the Association of Educational Publishers to establish a common learning resources framework - http://bit.ly/l8pOwr #cc | Jun 08 10:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Creative Commons & the Association of Educational Publishers to establish a common learning resources framework - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 17.71 KB | Jun 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/75727426 | Jun 08 10:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kuro Sawai (kuro)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 08:17:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Microsoft wants to kill copyleft. Yes, you're right. It's because they rate GPL as danger. But is'nt that really a compliment? | Jun 08 10:13 |
| schestowitz | I guess it is. | Jun 08 10:13 |
| koolhead11 | schestowitz, ping | Jun 08 10:15 |
| schestowitz | pong | Jun 08 10:15 |
| koolhead11 | schestowitz, KDE is giving me reimbursement for desktop summit. am very thankful to them :) | Jun 08 10:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Met Targets crime in huge crackdown - http://bit.ly/jyZNpy bit late for April 1st pieces, no? (v @SceneThat @PoliceStateUK) #police | Jun 08 10:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Met Targets crime in huge crackdown - Metropolitan Police Service .::. Size~: 20.56 KB | Jun 08 10:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Aaeon-APC5812/?kc=rss | Jun 08 10:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 18.5-inch panel PC works like a giant tablet - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 53.99 KB | Jun 08 10:19 |
| schestowitz | koolhead11: nice! | Jun 08 10:20 |
| schestowitz | I might start contributing to another FOSS project soon | Jun 08 10:20 |
| koolhead11 | which one your thinking to | Jun 08 10:20 |
| schestowitz | cyrus mail server | Jun 08 10:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Viewsonic unveils pair of seven-inch #Android tablets http://is.gd/dBwTav #tablet #linux | Jun 08 10:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Viewsonic unveils pair of seven-inch Android tablets - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.32 KB | Jun 08 10:23 |
| *koolhead11 googles!!! | Jun 08 10:26 | |
| schestowitz | I have this one from ages ago http://sourceforge.net/projects/othellomaster/ | Jun 08 10:32 |
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| schestowitz | Oddly enough they changed my licence to public domain 0_o | Jun 08 10:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] Happy IPv6 day! Almost all of FSFE's servers are now reachable via #IPv6 http://ur1.ca/4d9yf | Jun 08 10:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Off to FSFE's annual strategy retreat, boarding #FRA > #LJU. Come party w/ FSFE board, exec in Ljubljana on Sat: http://fsfe.org/events/ | Jun 08 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #XKCD: Worst-Case Shopping http://xkcd.com/909/ | Jun 08 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Linaro: Discussion with Thomas Gleixner, Arnd Bergmann, Grant Likely and Paul McKenney http://goo.gl/GdNkn #YouTube: http://goo.gl/xNKjn | Jun 08 10:36 | |
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| schestowitz | cannot change the licence now. Just tried logging in, obviously needs a version bump to fix their mistake. | Jun 08 10:37 |
| schestowitz | and after SF got cracked I needed to also reset the password | Jun 08 10:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: ‘Classicmenu indicator’ puts old-school GNOME menus in !Unity http://goo.gl/0YijJ wow, this is _really_ ugly... | Jun 08 10:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 'Open-source,' privately-funded rocket lifts off http://zd.net/kDo42u | Jun 08 10:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Fabien Tassin: !Chromium 12 in !Ubuntu http://goo.gl/FsNdb | Jun 08 10:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: !Unity Quality in !Ubuntu 11.10: Help Make It Rock http://goo.gl/Wga8F | Jun 08 10:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Does this !Android app work on my phone? Android Market website quickly says Yes or No. http://goo.gl/tV2xk | Jun 08 10:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Androinica » Does this Android app work on my phone? Android Market website quickly says Yes or No. .::. Size~: 48.17 KB | Jun 08 10:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] @karsten Have a good flight and see you tomorrow! | Jun 08 10:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] @greve Thanks! Looking forward to seeing you & rest of the group! Will scout the territory :-) | Jun 08 10:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @karsten: hmm | Jun 08 10:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Pidgin IM Client Updated to 2.8.0 http://feedly.com/k/mgCDoO Removes the QQ protocol plugin. Did anyone use QQ? Never met anyone as did | Jun 08 10:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cheating death http://i.imgur.com/A1YZC.jpg | Jun 08 10:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Jeff Paterson about Bradley #Manning http://ur1.ca/4da3c #tpn #anon #whistleblower | Jun 08 10:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I don't understand why #Skype are ranting about this reverse eng hacker http://ur1.ca/4da3o Surely it's Microsoft's problem now anyway? | Jun 08 11:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz: Cheating death http://ur1.ca/4da3w | Jun 08 11:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Matthew Aslett presents an analysis that says there is a trend towards permissive, non-copyleft licensing http://ur1.ca/4da4a | Jun 08 11:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Analyst: Copyleft in decline - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.2 KB | Jun 08 11:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @karsten why disbelief? Maybe the WHO doesn't have a sample of of the most nefarious bugs & viruses around? | Jun 08 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Should winning bidders tell if they suspect a new contract is undeliverable? - http://bit.ly/jebgV3 the Big Question (v @Mark_Antony) #uk | Jun 08 11:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Should winning bidders tell if they suspect a new contract is undeliverable? - The Tony Collins Blog .::. Size~: 78.4 KB | Jun 08 11:10 |
| koolhead11 | schestowitz, cheating death. #lol :D | Jun 08 11:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Open Invention Network Announces Purchase of Fundamental Patent Portfolio http://ur1.ca/4da5l [surprised there isn't an OIN group] | Jun 08 11:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Webian Shell: Yet More Validation for Chrome OS? | Chrome OS Site http://ping.fm/y958v | Jun 08 11:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Sudan journalists who report on rape charged with crimes - http://bit.ly/l1Nw15 shameful (v @globalfreemedia @evgenymorozov) | Jun 08 11:26 | |
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| schestowitz | koolhead11: :-) | Jun 08 11:28 |
| schestowitz | well, bbl | Jun 08 11:28 |
| koolhead11 | k | Jun 08 11:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Blogger not a journalist - http://bit.ly/kqbstq judges still stuck in 20th century? (v @Asher_Wolf) #blogging #journalism | Jun 08 11:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Happy #ipv6 Day! A new standard so won't run out of IP addresses. IPv6 users try our new site http://www.europav6.eu/... | Jun 08 11:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Cyber Cops Stymied By Elusive Hackers ≈ Packet Storm http://ping.fm/QWuZh | Jun 08 11:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] do #Viagra retailers use #uptime stats? #humour | Jun 08 11:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I hope for Obama's sake that Merkel didn't shag him for that medal... #needbrainbleach | Jun 08 11:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Thanks to #Endian UTM installed in my rack, I have secured wi-fi hotspot in the office, for guests. This stuff rocks. | Jun 08 11:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @Mark_Antony: A picture paints a thousand words... RT @h_ingo: Where tech talent goes: http://tumblr.com/xnk2wfyfcn | Jun 08 11:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] mhhh... it's me, it's OpenDNS, or europav6.eu doesn't start? I see both IPV4 and IPV6 addresses w/ host, still... | Jun 08 12:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @proyectoaporta: Data.gouv.fr apoya el Open Data Challenge (por @jwyg) http://bit.ly/mDqqRY Vía @okfn #opendata | Jun 08 12:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @EUinnovation: Information society: Commission makes Europa website accessible for Internet Protocol version 6 users http://bit.ly/lw ... | Jun 08 12:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Bernie Ecclestone says Bahrain GP cannot happen http://drpl.it/ZxP #PR move because of the outrage? | Jun 08 12:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh refresh it? as in give it some hay, apples, a massage & a pep talk, assuring that it can be anything it wants to be if it tries? lol | Jun 08 12:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana So Red Hat is really a newspaper? :D | Jun 08 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU-Parlament rügt Kommission zu Transparenz bei #INDECT - http://bit.ly/mJ2pMZ nett (v @jmcesteves @mehrenhauser) #transparency | Jun 08 12:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ots.at: M. Ehrenhauser: EU-Parlament rügt Kommission zu Transparenz bei INDECT = .::. Size~: 38.34 KB | Jun 08 12:33 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Feds Seize New Domain, Add To “Batshit” Conspiracy Theories http://goo.gl/USQL6 | Jun 08 12:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mothers Crawl Into Bed with Big Brother - http://bit.ly/iI6PSR good analysis of dangerous moves #censorship #surveillance | Jun 08 12:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mothers Crawl Into Bed with Big Brother | No Deep Packet Inspection .::. Size~: 34.38 KB | Jun 08 12:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Zippy voice actor Roy Skelton dies aged 79 http://is.gd/WNpeUm | Jun 08 12:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Zippy voice actor Roy Skelton dies aged 79 .::. Size~: 54.46 KB | Jun 08 12:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] 13% of !ranto downloads so far are via !Pony, 14% via gPodder | Jun 08 12:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Trying to figure out how to best ship this Xoom cross-country.... | Jun 08 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Am in Cobalt, Canada's Mining Town. Can't throw a stick without hitting an old silver mine. Population in 1900 - 30K. Today - 1500. | Jun 08 13:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean what's that you say? sticky's fell down the old silver mine? | Jun 08 13:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #twit302 More Apple wankfests... blargh! | Jun 08 13:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @syntax: Poor bastard. http://chainsawsuit.com/2011/06/02/the-trials-of-duke-nukem/ #duke #nukem #minecraft | Jun 08 13:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Syria: Free #Amina - http://bit.ly/lFNuWq another #avaaz epetition worth supporting | Jun 08 13:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] June 2011 #Web Server Survey - http://bit.ly/kKbNkh #apache goes from strength to strength; #Microsoft's #IIS, er, doesn't | Jun 08 13:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: June 2011 #Web Server Survey - http://bit.ly/kKbNkh #apache goes from strength to strength; #Microsoft's #IIS, er, doesn't | Jun 08 13:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] OpenOffice + Apache = Open Content #Innovation writes @tbarr | http://red.ht/mtWcKV #opensource #community innovation | Jun 08 13:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NZ Copyright law 'will not change' - http://bit.ly/mEnv3b pity, but at least more pressure is being applied (v @copyrightgirl @SaskiaWalzel) | Jun 08 13:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Chrome 12 arrives – "safer and snazzier" http://feedly.com/k/litSrR « Well I couldn't see the difference but still, I rarely can, at first | Jun 08 13:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Java SE 7 is passed to a chorus of protest (H): http://bit.ly/kbcLFl | Jun 08 13:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Apache Lucene/Solr 3.2 search engine/platform released (H): http://bit.ly/mbrkKD | Jun 08 13:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] FluxBB uses !DokuWiki. Neat! :D | Jun 08 13:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Twitter now offers automatic link shortening (Twitter): http://bit.ly/jiJEOZ | Jun 08 13:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] MT @glynmoody: NZ Copyright law 'will not change' - http://bit.ly/mEnv3b pity (v @copyrightgirl @SaskiaWalzel) | Jun 08 13:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] iCloud’s real purpose: kill Windows (Cringely): http://bit.ly/mU3DCX (via @techmeme) | Jun 08 13:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Artists' Charter - http://bit.ly/kxZD2Q "our indisputable right to copyright protection": sad to see artists being used like this | Jun 08 14:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] We are participating in World IPv6 Day http://ping.fm/2OXxf #WorldIPv6Day | Jun 08 14:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Why are my scrollbars in Chromium now coloured? Oo | Jun 08 14:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] National Archives hires 1st ‘Wikipedian in Residence’ - http://bit.ly/kaONvb will this become more common? | Jun 08 14:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Ohh... at last my new car has arrived, could fetch it during lunchtime. Well, it's nothing stunning, but I love understatement ;-) | Jun 08 14:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Archivalia: National Archives hires 1st ‘Wikipedian in Residence’ .::. Size~: 24.23 KB | Jun 08 14:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Samsung reportedly preparing to acquire #Nokia - http://tnw.co/m8VlO7 huh? | Jun 08 14:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Samsung reportedly lining up Nokia acquisition - Mobile .::. Size~: 71.26 KB | Jun 08 14:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @zee: Samsung reportedly preparing to acquire Nokia http://t.co/S4Elj1F | Jun 08 14:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Why are the Google ads on my own site trying to sell me a lawyer? What does Google know that I don't? Oo | Jun 08 14:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Also read my blog entry about #IPv6 http://bit.ly/jtUxgS | Jun 08 14:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Testing Ipv6 today « Digital Agenda Commissioner – Neelie Kroes .::. Size~: 28.36 KB | Jun 08 14:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh: kiddin' me? That crap spins like a crazy as soon as I touch the throttle :-P | Jun 08 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Protein Folding Made Easy - http://bit.ly/la01C3 this looks impressively fast stuff #modelling | Jun 08 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @techmeme: Samsung Declines Comment On Nokia Bid Speculation http://ping.fm/D9Sof « probably true then? | Jun 08 14:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @glynmoody #Samsung reportedly preparing to acquire #Nokia - http://tnw.co/m8VlO7 huh? | Jun 08 14:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] In the time it takes me to answer one email, I get two more.... Oo | Jun 08 14:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hisdudeness/@hisdudeness] Feds: !WikiLeaks Associates Have ‘No Right’ To Know About Demands For Their Records http://url9.de/cF0 | Jun 08 14:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Feds: WikiLeaks Associates Have ‘No Right’ To Know About Demands For Their Records | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 65.96 KB | Jun 08 14:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] If Google is serious about #WebM, then take the plunge and switch to #HTML5 as a default in YouTube. | Jun 08 14:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Help us out with this: I saw _____ today, and I think it should be more open. | Jun 08 14:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... Libsyn sure thinks apps are the future of podcasting.... Oo | Jun 08 14:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linux Photo Tools (The H) http://lwn.net/Articles/446595/rss | Jun 08 14:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #twit302 Android is so kicking Microsoft's butt :D | Jun 08 14:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] How's the Linux Desktop Doing? http://bit.ly/ivpbge | Jun 08 14:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Stallman: EBooks are "attacking our freedom" (PC Pro): http://bit.ly/kJUW2W | Jun 08 14:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Dear @sbbnews, I have news for you: Your contact form at sbb.ch/meta/kontakt.html does not work. It throws error and loses entered data. :-/ | Jun 08 14:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Walter: The Go Programming Language, or: Why all C-like languages except one suck http://lwn.net/Articles/446598/rss | Jun 08 14:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Tentative conclusion: #GNOME 3 on !Fedora 15 is like famous #Churchill dictum about #democracy | Jun 08 14:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Walter: The Go Programming Language, or: Why all C-like languages except one suck [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.26 KB | Jun 08 15:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #twit302 "Angry Birds is the Microsoft Office of the mobile era" - Leo Laporte | Jun 08 15:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @jsmith Voting in !Fedora elections for FESCo and Fedora Board ending soon. If you haven't voted, *NOW* is the time to do so. | Jun 08 15:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Ubuntu's Contributions to #Linux http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/151951/ | Jun 08 15:04 | |
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| ender_33 | 07:10 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [fabsh/@fabsh] #twit302 "Angry Birds is the Microsoft Office of the mobile era" - Leo Laporte | Jun 08 15:05 |
| ender_33 | Nope | Jun 08 15:05 |
| ender_33 | Microsoft Office is only on Windows/Mac | Jun 08 15:05 |
| ender_33 | Angry Birds is for everything including PC, Browsers, Phones,Tablets | Jun 08 15:05 |
| ender_33 | Linux too via Chromium | Jun 08 15:05 |
| ender_33 | Leo Laporte - Gaining irrelevance as time goes forward | Jun 08 15:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @phylogenomics #Venter predicts in the future companies will pay people to sequence their genomes to get the #data #IndoorAir2011 >>NB | Jun 08 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Linux Photo Tools http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Linux-photo-tools-1254416.html | Jun 08 15:06 | |
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| ender_33 | Darth #Venter can kiss my shiney metal ass | Jun 08 15:08 |
| schestowitz | [15:05] <ender_33> 07:10 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [fabsh/@fabsh] #twit302 "Angry Birds is the Microsoft Office of the mobile era" - Leo Laporte | Jun 08 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Hardly | Jun 08 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Big stretch | Jun 08 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Office is used because of network effect and lockin | Jun 08 15:11 |
| schestowitz | And it's large in size | Jun 08 15:11 |
| schestowitz | nice quote in a way, far from applicable IMHO | Jun 08 15:12 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/75727426 | Jun 08 15:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kuro Sawai (kuro)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 08:17:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Microsoft wants to kill copyleft. Yes, you're right. It's because they rate GPL as danger. But is'nt that really a compliment? | Jun 08 15:13 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/75725992 | Jun 08 15:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Kuro Sawai (kuro)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jun-11 07:56:06 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @schestowitz Is anybody aware of some SF.net stats that can show the GPL growing in usage? Are the only ones 'tracking' licences comi ... | Jun 08 15:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] openSUSE calls on members to vote on strategy http://bit.ly/lsiFvD | Jun 08 15:14 | |
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| ender_33 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Organization_17_November | Jun 08 15:18 |
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| ender_33 | pseudo-anarchists | Jun 08 15:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] At the #RHT RDU office hacking on some TOS.o stuff | Jun 08 15:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Keeping an open mind on open government | http://red.ht/jPBf7p #CityCamp #gov20 #openstandards | Jun 08 15:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google discontinues specialised #Linux and #BSD search pages - http://bit.ly/jEt9Cj seems wilful - why bother? desperate to save money? | Jun 08 15:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 204 million downloads on 2011-06-08 14:17 UTC | Jun 08 15:23 | |
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| schestowitz | Whoa... tuna is getting expensive here | Jun 08 15:24 |
| schestowitz | I need to rethink my menu | Jun 08 15:24 |
| schestowitz | And Aldi is removing sardines from the shelves | Jun 08 15:24 |
| schestowitz | Today at the pool I thought I should maybe get off fish altogether... hard to get protein without eating meat :( | Jun 08 15:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indian authorities consider ban on TigerText private text messaging app - http://tnw.co/kOJ3l3 battling for control #india #privacy | Jun 08 15:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @sazius: if one could also get the feed as an email digest we could get @rms to use #identica :) #gnu | Jun 08 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Creators Establish Principles for Copyright Reform - http://bit.ly/kQgqES "remedies against content theft"; clueless (v @copyrightgirl) | Jun 08 15:28 | |
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| schestowitz | Sainsbury's used to sell tuna at around half the price it goes for now, or 60% cheaper | Jun 08 15:28 |
| schestowitz | It was a good diet.. | Jun 08 15:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Screaming probably isn't such a good idea right now, but would feel oh so good :\ | Jun 08 15:33 | |
| ender_33 | 07:34 <@schestowitz> Today at the pool I thought I should maybe get off fish altogether... hard to get protein without eating meat :( | Jun 08 15:36 |
| ender_33 | don't believe the propaganda - keep eating fish | Jun 08 15:36 |
| ender_33 | fish is brain food | Jun 08 15:36 |
| MinceR | what's wrong with eating meat anyway? | Jun 08 15:37 |
| ender_33 | if it really stayed in your ass for years I'd look like Jabba the hut | Jun 08 15:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @bkuhn: @fontana, #disturbing when you redistribute sw from your subscription, Red Hat says: "Where's your subscription now, SEE!?!?!" | Jun 08 15:39 | |
| ender_33 | red meat has a lot of chloresteral | Jun 08 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #Atheism is the true embrace of reality http://ur1.ca/4dbfv #RichardDawkins Foundation for Reason and #Science #RDF #secular #humanism | Jun 08 15:41 | |
| ender_33 | just counter that with stuff that reduces chloresteral | Jun 08 15:41 |
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| ender_33 | oatmeal is a great | Jun 08 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #twit302 So true. Playbook is a terrible name... | Jun 08 15:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Violent artists declare war on the 21st Century - http://bit.ly/iLLwlR nice to see "The Artists' Charter" rebutted so soon, so thoroughly | Jun 08 15:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I *do* like getting Mongolian followers; seems to sum up the power and potential of #Twitter perfectly... #wearetheworld | Jun 08 15:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @guido Framework agreement in Sweden increases use of !Free Software: http://ur1.ca/49iy4 !fsfe | Jun 08 15:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] In this episode our hero learns how to open files in perl, while both hands are pulling his hair out | Jun 08 15:46 | |
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| MinceR | oh noes, cholesterol | Jun 08 15:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] All four #Lodsys #patents under invalidation attack in federal court - http://bit.ly/kjPdE1 things hotting up | Jun 08 15:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Mijn boodschap voor Debat op Scherp over online #privacy en #veiligheid. Het doel moet zowel gemak als privacy zijn... | Jun 08 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Oh, I just didn't save the file I was trying to read. That makes sense. | Jun 08 15:54 | |
| ender_33 | I don't really want a heart attack | Jun 08 15:55 |
| ender_33 | oatmeal is good for prevention | Jun 08 15:56 |
| ender_33 | http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Prevent-Anti-Terror-Strategy-Home-Secretary-Theresa-May-Admits-Cash-Has-Been-Given-To-Extremists/Article/201106116007478?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_16007478_Prevent_Anti-Terror_Strategy%3A_Home_Secretary_Theresa_May_Admits_Cash_Has_Been_Given_To_Extremists | Jun 08 15:56 |
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| ender_33 | LOL | Jun 08 15:57 |
| schestowitz | [15:41] <ender_33> oatmeal is a great | Jun 08 15:58 |
| schestowitz | I eat that too | Jun 08 15:58 |
| schestowitz | My main foods are fish and oats | Jun 08 15:58 |
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| ender_33 | I run off of oatmeal, coffee, and meat | Jun 08 15:58 |
| ender_33 | some vegtables too | Jun 08 15:59 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: I met her.. | Jun 08 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Theresa May at a hotel.. we spoke for a while. | Jun 08 15:59 |
| ender_33 | did you bang her? lol | Jun 08 15:59 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: and tea? | Jun 08 15:59 |
| ender_33 | green tea | Jun 08 15:59 |
| schestowitz | People keep saying and kept saying I should move to tea, so I did. | Jun 08 15:59 |
| ender_33 | coffee and tea for me | Jun 08 16:00 |
| ender_33 | green tea, i dont really like the other kinds | Jun 08 16:00 |
| ender_33 | it also has the most caffeine iirc | Jun 08 16:00 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: no, her husband was there and she's not my age group. Her husband worked for Deutsche Bank | Jun 08 16:00 |
| ender_33 | lol i was kidding cause you said it was at a hotel | Jun 08 16:00 |
| schestowitz | I need to rethink all sorts of things | Jun 08 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Not just diet, also time management | Jun 08 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Soon i'll start some C coding again | Jun 08 16:01 |
| schestowitz | with git | Jun 08 16:01 |
| schestowitz | FOSS of course.. | Jun 08 16:01 |
| ender_33 | anything in mind | Jun 08 16:01 |
| ender_33 | or work related | Jun 08 16:01 |
| schestowitz | and I'll take a week off in the lab doing some experiments too... the Web is not the same anymore | Jun 08 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Here's my general opinion: | Jun 08 16:01 |
| schestowitz | There used to be the Web of news | Jun 08 16:02 |
| schestowitz | CNET, ZDNet... some Geocities homepages | Jun 08 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Then came blogs | Jun 08 16:02 |
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| schestowitz | A really good time for individuals | Jun 08 16:02 |
| schestowitz | And then came 'cloud' and social networks | Jun 08 16:02 |
| schestowitz | So many people like Fry just blog in someone else's turd, like Twitter | Jun 08 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw didn't keep up with this transition and many news sites died with it | Jun 08 16:02 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, now it's a lot of FB and junk.. | Jun 08 16:03 |
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| schestowitz | I even saw it in Nectar's site | Jun 08 16:03 |
| ender_33 | social networking | Jun 08 16:03 |
| schestowitz | They're all hosted | Jun 08 16:03 |
| schestowitz | Very bad | Jun 08 16:03 |
| schestowitz | France counters that | Jun 08 16:03 |
| schestowitz | And I won't hold thata gainst France | Jun 08 16:03 |
| schestowitz | !google france bans facebook twitter | Jun 08 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - France bans Facebook and Twitter (the words) | Technically ... | http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20068752-71/france-bans-facebook-and-twitter-the-words/ | Jun 08 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - French ban the words 'Twitter' and 'Facebook' from being used on ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394558/French-ban-words-Twitter-Facebook-used-TV-radio.html | Jun 08 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Digital Life - France bans Facebook and Twitter from TV, radio | http://digitallife.today.com/_news/2011/06/03/6780171-france-bans-facebook-and-twitter-from-tv-radio%3Fchromedomain%3Dtechnolog | Jun 08 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - France bans Facebook Twitter | PopWatch | EW.com | http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/06/06/france-facebook-twitter-banned/ | Jun 08 16:03 |
| MinceR | ender_33: but but but... caffeine is bad for you! | Jun 08 16:03 |
| MinceR | isn't it? :> | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz | social network is a misnomer | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz | It's social? Not so much.. | Jun 08 16:04 |
| ender_33 | I don't believe the people who say caffeine is bad | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz | It's a bunch of people become slave of some platform | Jun 08 16:04 |
| ender_33 | its good for your brain too | Jun 08 16:04 |
| ender_33 | everything good for your brain is 'bad' | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/10/05/cloud-computing-goes-boom/ | Jun 08 16:04 |
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| schestowitz | I learned my lesson from that one... | Jun 08 16:04 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: it's more marketable than "voluntary personal file database for corporations and governments" :> | Jun 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz | In identi.ca I'm still the 2nd most proflific usee | Jun 08 16:05 |
| ender_33 | schestowitz - what do you think of the latest iCon, the iCloud | Jun 08 16:05 |
| schestowitz | But in 1 year it could decline, barely used in 5 years, and taken offline in 1 years | Jun 08 16:05 |
| schestowitz | You're still locked in | Jun 08 16:05 |
| Kuifje | http://mirror.ovh.net/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso | Jun 08 16:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/x-iso9660-image type | Jun 08 16:05 |
| ender_33 | yeah and you can't export a lot of that stuff | Jun 08 16:05 |
| ender_33 | wordpress.com has the export plugins | Jun 08 16:05 |
| *MinceR right-clicks the iCon | Jun 08 16:05 | |
| ender_33 | for how long tho? who knows | Jun 08 16:05 |
| schestowitz | yeah, but that's different | Jun 08 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Wordpress won't do URL rediction, I think | Jun 08 16:06 |
| schestowitz | You could get plugins to scrape your work off Twitter | Jun 08 16:06 |
| schestowitz | IIRC | Jun 08 16:06 |
| schestowitz | But where would you put it then? | Jun 08 16:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: Violent artists declare war on the 21st Century http://bit.ly/iLLwlR "Artists' Charter" rebutted soon & thoroughly | Jun 08 16:06 | |
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| schestowitz | Actually, my dents are more likely ro be preserved in IRC logs than in some hosted service, as many like Geocities and Propeller go "boom" | Jun 08 16:07 |
| schestowitz | If it makes no money, they kill it | Jun 08 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Just business.. they can't give a rat's ass about people's work | Jun 08 16:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: hype Con :-) | Jun 08 16:07 |
| Kuifje | http://shad0www.ftpaccess.cc/test.html | Jun 08 16:07 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 08 16:08 |
| schestowitz | I think I know who that is.. | Jun 08 16:08 |
| MinceR | so do i | Jun 08 16:08 |
| ender_33 | the asshole | Jun 08 16:08 |
| schestowitz | It's not | Jun 08 16:08 |
| schestowitz | It's what comes out of it | Jun 08 16:09 |
| ender_33 | he needs a machine with 24gb of ram for windows 8 | Jun 08 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Don't curse rectums | Jun 08 16:09 |
| MinceR | his server is slow as molasses, though :> | Jun 08 16:09 |
| schestowitz | His? | Jun 08 16:09 |
| ender_33 | probably windows server | Jun 08 16:09 |
| schestowitz | His mom pays for it | Jun 08 16:09 |
| MinceR | whatever | Jun 08 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, about Apple's 'cloud' | Jun 08 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Didn't Jobs talk about privacy on it a while back? | Jun 08 16:10 |
| ender_33 | its hypocritical of apple | Jun 08 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Or the Goat asked him about piracy on 'the cloud' after the leak? | Jun 08 16:10 |
| schestowitz | iPhone surveillance.. | Jun 08 16:10 |
| *MinceR sets ban on *!*None@*.upc-e.chello.nl | Jun 08 16:10 | |
| *MinceR has kicked Kuifje from #techrights (don't let the door hit your ass on your way out) | Jun 08 16:10 | |
| schestowitz | !google mossberg jobs privacy | Jun 08 16:10 |
| ender_33 | the iPhone surveillance was leaked last year remember | Jun 08 16:11 |
| ender_33 | there were courts using the data | Jun 08 16:11 |
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| ender_33 | I was called on it saying it wasn't true | Jun 08 16:11 |
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| schestowitz | Server choked on Jobs | Jun 08 16:11 |
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| schestowitz | !google mossberg jobs privacy | Jun 08 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Walt Mossberg | chrishogg.me | http://chrishogg.me/tag/walt-mossberg/ | Jun 08 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Steve Jobs Bragged About Privacy—Days Ago | http://gawker.com/5560295/steve-jobs-bragged-about-privacydays-ago | Jun 08 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Steve Jobs Consolidated — Rixstep Learning Curve | http://rixstep.com/2/20110421,01.shtml | Jun 08 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Where Steve Jobs Stood on Location Privacy in 2010 - Kashmir Hill ... | http://blogs.forbes.com/kashmirhill/2011/04/25/where-steve-jobs-stood-on-location-privacy-in-2010/ | Jun 08 16:11 |
| MinceR | maybe it was a script that feeds endless garbage to the requester | Jun 08 16:12 |
| schestowitz | I'll do 3 blog posts now... | Jun 08 16:12 |
| schestowitz | One about MS fFlorian | Jun 08 16:12 |
| schestowitz | PJ is not so retired | Jun 08 16:12 |
| schestowitz | She came back to rebut Florian's lies. Power to her.. | Jun 08 16:12 |
| schestowitz |  | Jun 08 16:12 |
| schestowitz | [16:12] <MinceR> maybe it was a script that feeds endless garbage to the requester | Jun 08 16:13 |
| schestowitz | Jobs' doctor? | Jun 08 16:13 |
| MinceR | no, what the spammer linked | Jun 08 16:13 |
| schestowitz | Maybe. Kids will be kids | Jun 08 16:14 |
| schestowitz | I think we should ignore and ban this vandal, it wants attention | Jun 08 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Other than mommy bringing pizza downstairs | Jun 08 16:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @bitfolk: Thanks, Ubuntu Satanic :) http://ubuntusatanic.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=365&page=1 | Jun 08 16:18 | |
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| ender_33 | last time he did it he pm'd me saying how the bsd license was the best because microsoft was able to get a tcp/ip stack for free | Jun 08 16:19 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 08 16:19 |
| ender_33 | that's old news, they rewrote it | Jun 08 16:19 |
| MinceR | they _claimed_ they rewrote it | Jun 08 16:19 |
| MinceR | not the same thing | Jun 08 16:20 |
| ender_33 | true | Jun 08 16:20 |
| ender_33 | we'll never know for sure | Jun 08 16:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Apparently there's math.fabsh() in Python. :D | Jun 08 16:21 | |
| schestowitz | [16:19] <ender_33> last time he did it he pm'd me saying how the bsd license was the best because microsoft was able to get a tcp/ip stack for free | Jun 08 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Used it... like toilet paper | Jun 08 16:22 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 08 16:23 |
| ender_33 | he also claimed to be #1 on speedtests because he was using windows | Jun 08 16:23 |
| ender_33 | which is an obvious lie | Jun 08 16:24 |
| ender_33 | his router isn't running windows, and if hes directly connecting it to the net he's really dumb | Jun 08 16:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "The J-Man & Heather"? Muwhahahahahaha! | Jun 08 16:24 | |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 08 16:26 |
| ender_33 | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394625/40-UK-universities-breeding-grounds-terror.html | Jun 08 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 40 UK universities are now breeding grounds for terror | Mail Online .::. Size~: 114.14 KB | Jun 08 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Alternative to #antibiotics discovered - http://bit.ly/jjyTi4 how long before farmers ruin them too? | Jun 08 16:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Alternative to antibiotics discovered | TG Daily .::. Size~: 56.08 KB | Jun 08 16:26 |
| ender_33 | Roy - Your doctor is now Big Brother - http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jun/06/doctors-identify-potential-terrorists-plans | Jun 08 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Doctors asked to identify potential terrorists under government plans | Politics | The Guardian .::. Size~: 265.8 KB | Jun 08 16:26 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: what's with Murdoch press today? | Jun 08 16:27 |
| schestowitz | You keep linking to Murdoch's propaganda | Jun 08 16:27 |
| schestowitz | he likes war.. | Jun 08 16:27 |
| ender_33 | guardian? | Jun 08 16:28 |
| schestowitz | No | Jun 08 16:28 |
| schestowitz | Daily Fail and Sky | Jun 08 16:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @gomerx: Description of the clucene-core package in Fedora: "The core clucene module". Thanks. A lot. | Jun 08 16:28 | |
| ender_33 | oh I didn't know | Jun 08 16:28 |
| schestowitz | And Daily Fail is notorious, it's a tabloid | Jun 08 16:28 |
| schestowitz | [16:26] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: 40 UK universities are now breeding grounds for terror | Jun 08 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Right... cause we have 40 planes per year crashing into UK buildings each year? | Jun 08 16:29 |
| schestowitz | I guess to them anything involving resistance is "terrorism" (even some of what you write) and if one in 10,000 does some sort of non-lethal assault, that's "terrorism" | Jun 08 16:30 |
| ender_33 | it says its based on a government report | Jun 08 16:30 |
| schestowitz | The UK actually has far more people dying from car accidents, coronary, etc. than from all terrorism combined, even IRA | Jun 08 16:30 |
| ender_33 | it points the finger at radical groups, not the UK universities itself | Jun 08 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Car accidents don't provide pretext for entering your house with guns | Jun 08 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Or reading your online activities. | Jun 08 16:31 |
| schestowitz | Drugs do | Jun 08 16:31 |
| schestowitz | And terrorism | Jun 08 16:31 |
| schestowitz | Drugs were good for creating legislation that has you lose privacy in your property.. many decades ago | Jun 08 16:31 |
| schestowitz | Terrorism allows people to open your mail, digital or otherwise | Jun 08 16:31 |
| schestowitz | Watch my next dent | Jun 08 16:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] IPv6 and Tor Project Websites: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ipv6-and-tor-project-websites | Jun 08 16:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Flaws and Back Doors Behind the Proprietary Software Curtain http://is.gd/tCJwpF #fbi #nsa #suppression #intrusion #windows #microsoft | Jun 08 16:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Flaws and Back Doors Behind the Proprietary Software Curtain http://is.gd/tCJwpF #security #cipav #malware #stuxnet #virus #trojan | Jun 08 16:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Threat of TERROR~1 is being sexed up in the British media these days. Perfect excuse for online spying. Drugs an excuse for property access. | Jun 08 16:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why #Copyright Holders Love iTunes Match And #Pirates Hate It - http://onforb.es/lS2pwW chilling vision of the future in last paragraphs | Jun 08 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fabsh: I agree some doctors share responsibility, but it seems to me the widespread, unnecessary use in farming is main cause | Jun 08 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The story of St. Columba: A modern #copyright battle in sixth century Ireland | http://red.ht/j37Kyk | Jun 08 16:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Copyright Holders Love iTunes Match And Pirates Hate It - Parmy Olson - Disruptors - Forbes .::. Size~: 103.48 KB | Jun 08 16:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The story of St. Columba: A modern copyright battle in sixth century Ireland | opensource.com .::. Size~: 44.84 KB | Jun 08 16:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Privacy Dashboard now hosted as W3C open source project http://ow.ly/1d7FGH | Jun 08 16:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Privacy Dashboard now hosted as W3C open source project - W3C Blog .::. Size~: 10.15 KB | Jun 08 16:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @fabsh: @x1101 GAH#!#! Math#!# Math#!#!#!# MATH#!#!# GAAAAAAAAH#!#!! | Jun 08 16:43 | |
| ender_33 | IMO Microsoft makes its products insecure for deniability | Jun 08 16:44 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org | Jun 08 16:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 39.34 KB | Jun 08 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Hmm... something odd.. | Jun 08 16:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @planetubuntu: Alan Pope: Finding live music with Songkick http://bit.ly/kFdHgw | Jun 08 16:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Finding live music with Songkick | popey.com blog .::. Size~: 32.58 KB | Jun 08 16:50 |
| schestowitz | Seems like the Microsoft shills attack the server | Jun 08 16:51 |
| schestowitz | Again. | Jun 08 16:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] My Today programme ambush - #bbc behaving badly...just for a change | Jun 08 16:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fabsh: but they're the same drugs, and drug resistance genes can swap with other strains that do affect humans | Jun 08 16:53 | |
| tessier | Seems to be working to me... | Jun 08 16:55 |
| schestowitz | I start to wonder if the bot crashing was due to something the shills did... | Jun 08 16:55 |
| schestowitz | tessier: I think the kids did something | Jun 08 16:55 |
| MinceR | it was the link | Jun 08 16:55 |
| schestowitz | I could check the logs | Jun 08 16:55 |
| MinceR | or more accurately what their web server spits out if you visit the link | Jun 08 16:56 |
| schestowitz | tessier: a short while ago copilotco and Techrights did not respond | Jun 08 16:56 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: right.. | Jun 08 16:56 |
| MinceR | the bot should also have a limit on how long it will read from the address | Jun 08 16:56 |
| MinceR | and stop trying if it goes on for too long before seeing the end of the <title> element | Jun 08 16:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] My Today programme ambush - http://bit.ly/ktLL9U #bbc behaving badly...just for a change | Jun 08 16:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Graham Linehan: My Today programme ambush | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 236.12 KB | Jun 08 16:56 |
| schestowitz | tessier: thanks, and sorry for the disturbance | Jun 08 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Shows we do something right if self-professed anti-Linux people stoop so low | Jun 08 16:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Facebook yet again assuming permission to opt people into some new privacy invasive scheme? http://is.gd/cbqHw2 Is anyone surprised? | Jun 08 16:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Facebook sorry over face tagging launch .::. Size~: 61.11 KB | Jun 08 16:58 |
| ender_33 | sorry? | Jun 08 16:59 |
| ender_33 | how so | Jun 08 16:59 |
| ender_33 | theres a difference between saying you are sorry and meaning it | Jun 08 16:59 |
| MinceR | it means they realize they had PR backlash over it, nothing more | Jun 08 17:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 08 17:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fedora has sendmail installed by default? Eh.... WHUT!? | Jun 08 17:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Facebook seem hell bent on not learning from their mistakes, perhaps because it's in their interests not to learn from them | Jun 08 17:03 | |
| schestowitz | "That too shall pass..." | Jun 08 17:04 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they need to hire more astroturfers | Jun 08 17:04 |
| schestowitz | !google facebook astroturf google | Jun 08 17:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - (Astro) Turf Wars | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/astroturfwars | Jun 08 17:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - The Ticker: Google vs. content farms; SXSW astroturf; Government ... | http://www.mediabistro.com/prnewser/the-ticker-google-vs-content-farms-sxsw-astroturf-government-pr-contracts-social-oscars_b15932 | Jun 08 17:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Facebook vs Google – Who Is Calling The Kettle Black? — Social ... | http://socialmediadirections.com/2011/05/18/facebook-vs-google-%25E2%2580%2593-who-is-calling-the-kettle-black/ | Jun 08 17:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Lauren Weinstein's Blog: Attempt to Involve Me in Anti-Google ... | http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000850.html | Jun 08 17:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I love this picture of @sil and his son - http://i.imgur.com/Pdm7u.jpg | Jun 08 17:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jun 08 17:05 |
| schestowitz | !google facebook astroturfing | Jun 08 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Pro-Reform Group Goes After Insurers' Facebook Astroturfing | TPM ... | http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/pro-reform-group-goes-after-insurers-facebook-astroturfing.php | Jun 08 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Astroturfing | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/pages/Astroturfing/114742021875419 | Jun 08 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Health Insurers Caught Paying Facebook Gamers Virtual Currency To ... | http://www.businessinsider.com/health-insures-caught-paying-facebook-users-virtual-currency-to-send-letters-to-congress-opposing-reform-bill-2009-12 | Jun 08 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Health Insurance Giant Denies Funding Astroturf Facebook Ads ... | http://www.mediaite.com/online/health-insurance-giant-denies-funding-astroturf-facebook-ads/ | Jun 08 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Hmm... why are the results not there? I guess the term AstroTurf was not used much | Jun 08 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, they paid a firm to attack Google to divert attention away from Facebook and its pimp, Microsoft | Jun 08 17:05 |
| ender_33 | ipv6 day today | Jun 08 17:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hey iTunes! Match my ass! | Jun 08 17:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fabsh: never underestimate the low cunning of bacteria... | Jun 08 17:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] GPL is Declining According to Friends of Microsoft http://is.gd/GPKc1A #fud #statistics #blackduck #openlogic #copyleft | Jun 08 17:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If a country goes to war against the US (as most states do sooner or later, with false pretexts sometimes),the US owns * http://is.gd/tCJwpF | Jun 08 17:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's funny that Microsoft calls FOSS a threat to national security when it is in fact Windows that is a nat.threat to all countries, exc. US | Jun 08 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh why is that? I mean everybody knows that antibiotics fix colds and flu, everyone hates those right? | Jun 08 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ***last post contained sarcasm, no really*** | Jun 08 17:11 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I know that Red Hat probably hires a higher percentage of Americans than Microsoft | Jun 08 17:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @reality: #security #failure http://timetables.centro.org.uk/showtimetable.asp?file=showtimetable.asp | Jun 08 17:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft mostly farms out all their stuff to India or China and has a few local faces as "managers" or bloggers | Jun 08 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | that's the reason Microsoft started the "shared source" program, government concerns that they were using binary software that was written largely in countries that either don't like us, want to spy on us, or have reasons to inject vulnerabilities because they've been paid by organized crime | Jun 08 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | "shared source" lets government agencies look at the code to counter the claim that FOSS is more secure because you can look at the code | Jun 08 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | looking at the code without being able to change it still doesn't help a lot because you have to ask Microsoft to fix things, it's up to them whether or not they do, and if so you're subject to their turnaround time | Jun 08 17:16 |
| *koolhead11 is now known as koolhead11|afk | Jun 08 17:17 | |
| DaemonFC | not to mention that the price of Windows licenses are high and it doesn't scale well | Jun 08 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the maintainers of Scientific Linux are US government employees | Jun 08 17:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Those who control information are the most powerful people on the planet&the ones with the most bulging bank accounts." http://is.gd/XAlGs3 | Jun 08 17:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] agora quem manda na Casa é a esposa do MiniCom Paulo Bernardo! onde já civil? | Jun 08 17:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @tekk Yeah, especially flu which is a *virus*. ;) | Jun 08 17:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] e o congresso continua demandando explicações do Palocci: “como é que seu patrimônio aumentou *só* 20 vezes, seu anta-ônio?” | Jun 08 17:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @mgraesslin Blog post about KWin with Wayland clients: http://ur1.ca/4dc0p !KDE | Jun 08 17:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | also, Red Hat can commit to predictable releases so you aren't cheated by paying for a subscription then having it lapse with no upgrade during those years | Jun 08 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | even Microsoft's sploggers are starting to get angry with Software Assurance | Jun 08 17:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] If you haven't already, read this: http://stallman.org/articles/ebooks.pdf | Jun 08 17:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] My son is 5, and already prefers to read everything on his tablet PC. eBooks are already a reality, and need to be free. | Jun 08 17:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Łączymy się w idei (...) że mamy cwaniaka na warszawiaka, a mimo tego spotykamy się na kebabie pod Pałacem Kultury." #ProjektTrójząb | Jun 08 17:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @jra My son is 5, and already prefers to read everything on his tablet PC. eBooks are already a reality, and need to be free. | Jun 08 17:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @jra jra: If you haven't already, read this: http://stallman.org/articles/ebooks.pdf | Jun 08 17:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Richard Stallman: Break free of e-book 'chains' | Deep Tech - CNET News" http://ur1.ca/4dc4s "The Danger of E-books" (PDF) | Jun 08 17:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Jun 08 17:21 |
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| MinceR | to be more precise, "shared source" lets you look at code that m$ _claims_ to be the source code of the binaries they hand to you | Jun 08 17:21 |
| MinceR | you can't really check, and even if you find anything, you can't fix it, and even if you could fix it, you can't share those fixes with others and others can't share those fixes with you | Jun 08 17:22 |
| MinceR | even if it wasn't written by idiots and even if it was "engineered for security", it would still be unfit to trust | Jun 08 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You think they fudge to make their code look prettier than it really is? | Jun 08 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | that's kind of funny | Jun 08 17:23 |
| MinceR | i think that if they wanted to slip in a backdoor and hand you the code that doesn't contain the backdoor, they could | Jun 08 17:23 |
| MinceR | and you would be none the wiser | Jun 08 17:23 |
| MinceR | and they won't even need to try to obfuscate it at all | Jun 08 17:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fabsh: "Horizontal gene transfer is common among bacteria, even amongst very distantly-related ones" - http://bit.ly/lJ4mgJ with refs. | Jun 08 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "One Year Later: Adobe Abandons 64-bit Linux Again - O'Reilly Broadcast" http://ur1.ca/4d3k8 | Jun 08 17:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Horizontal gene transfer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 126.13 KB | Jun 08 17:25 |
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| DaemonFC | interlal and "shared source version, cleaned up and stripped of backdoors" | Jun 08 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | nice | Jun 08 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | *internal | Jun 08 17:25 |
| MinceR | or just markers to omit along with the code between them | Jun 08 17:25 |
| MinceR | and a tool that strips that out when they need to deliver the "shared source" | Jun 08 17:26 |
| cubezzz | Microsoft stuff is showing up in cars more now | Jun 08 17:27 |
| cubezzz | Kia, Ford, and probably others | Jun 08 17:27 |
| cubezzz | oh and Honda | Jun 08 17:27 |
| MinceR | toyota (sadly) | Jun 08 17:27 |
| MinceR | bmw | Jun 08 17:27 |
| cubezzz | not good :-/ | Jun 08 17:28 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 08 17:28 |
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| MinceR | not only do people get shoddy cars, traffic also becomes more of a death trap | Jun 08 17:28 |
| cubezzz | how does one option a microsoft free car, aside from getting an old one? | Jun 08 17:28 |
| MinceR | probably by avoiding those makers | Jun 08 17:28 |
| cubezzz | obtain... | Jun 08 17:29 |
| MinceR | maybe in some cases it's restricted to some extra crap that isn't in the base model | Jun 08 17:29 |
| cubezzz | tvo was talking about public trans last night | Jun 08 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Well, do you? http://doyouknowpolska.com/ !polska !poland #win | Jun 08 17:33 | |
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| cubezzz | there's fake FSF sympathizers too | Jun 08 17:33 |
| cubezzz | saying they "sympahize with the FSF but they are wrong about blah blah..." | Jun 08 17:34 |
| cubezzz | then they go run their blog about vista desktop themes | Jun 08 17:34 |
| cubezzz | or how "it's easy to buy a Ubuntu computer from Dell" | Jun 08 17:35 |
| cubezzz | you can get Vostro 1015 | Jun 08 17:36 |
| cubezzz | or 1014 | Jun 08 17:36 |
| cubezzz | or maybe one more... like Dell Latitute 2120... _maybe_ | Jun 08 17:37 |
| cubezzz | all those computers have tiny screens | Jun 08 17:37 |
| MinceR | not to mention that they're dHells | Jun 08 17:38 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 08 17:38 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: I stopped with the change of product/company names :-) | Jun 08 17:39 |
| MinceR | Glyn Moody wrote an article about how "easy" it is to get a PC with ubuntu from dHell | Jun 08 17:39 |
| MinceR | (it turned out to be impossible) | Jun 08 17:39 |
| schestowitz | Did you notice? | Jun 08 17:39 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah I noticed what you thought you did yes | Jun 08 17:39 |
| schestowitz | OK, thanks | Jun 08 17:39 |
| ThistleWeb | reading the blog posts does make a difference, until anyone comes in here | Jun 08 17:39 |
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| ThistleWeb | then name calling is the norm, even made an op | Jun 08 17:40 |
| cubezzz | MincerR, I think Be Corp did something with Toshbia, but then it got buried somehow | Jun 08 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I think global warming must have caught up with us finally (But why was the hottest summer on record in 1944?) | Jun 08 17:40 |
| ThistleWeb | which kinda suggests it's all good to not bring that profesionalism to the irc and hope nobody notices | Jun 08 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's all just so confusing :) | Jun 08 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | well, in this area anyway, but still | Jun 08 17:41 |
| cubezzz | have you _ever_ seen a brand-system with linux on it in an actual store? | Jun 08 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just glad I have local cooling | Jun 08 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | B-) and iced tea to sip | Jun 08 17:41 |
| ThistleWeb | you can try to deflect it with a regular user, but someone you make an op? | Jun 08 17:41 |
| ThistleWeb | but as I said, it makes a difference in the posts | Jun 08 17:42 |
| ThistleWeb | one step at a time, I guess | Jun 08 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They have all 1 PC with Linux | Jun 08 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | and currently no laptops or netbooks at all | Jun 08 17:42 |
| MinceR | ic | Jun 08 17:42 |
| MinceR | and they also probably refuse to ship even that | Jun 08 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | the choice is real easy where there is only one I guess | Jun 08 17:42 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: allegedly some netbooks were sold with GNU+Linux. but not in hungaristan, as far as i can tell. | Jun 08 17:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @vanden: How is it that Poland cornered the market on sesame seed based snack items? | Jun 08 17:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Bitcoin’s Four Hurdles: Part Three – Escrow - http://bit.ly/iAZf5v 2We need anonymous, trustable escrow." #digitalmoney | Jun 08 17:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Most Vulns Exploited By #Stuxnet Worm Remain Unpatched - http://bit.ly/lrkhai #windows vulnerabilities, of course... #security | Jun 08 17:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | Dell blows, use a smaller company like System76 or something | Jun 08 17:43 |
| MinceR | dell blows, use a company that knows its stuff, like lenovo | Jun 08 17:43 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 08 17:43 |
| MinceR | (i know they're assholes but at least thinkpads don't fall apart if you look at them wrong) | Jun 08 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't seen a Dell system that was all that reasonably priced with decent components | Jun 08 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | one reason for that is that Windows brings up the cost of the system a lot all by itself | Jun 08 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | less money for the actual hardware | Jun 08 17:44 |
| schestowitz | [17:40] <ThistleWeb> then name calling is the norm, even made an op | Jun 08 17:44 |
| schestowitz | MinceR? I like the LightBringer. | Jun 08 17:45 |
| schestowitz | He has also been here for many years, one of the most veteran among us in the TR channels | Jun 08 17:45 |
| ThistleWeb | that's the one, and as I said, people read the posts and now have the layer of professionalism, until they come in here and see thats just a surface impression, that nothing has changed under th surface | Jun 08 17:46 |
| ThistleWeb | I don't dispute that he's been here a while | Jun 08 17:46 |
| ThistleWeb | making someone an op, means you trust them with the impression people have | Jun 08 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It looks like ThistleWeb has temporarily ceased his bitching about me and is going after you now | Jun 08 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | ender_33 is probably next | Jun 08 17:47 |
| ThistleWeb | you can't distance it as "well, it's just another user" | Jun 08 17:47 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i see that | Jun 08 17:47 |
| MinceR | he keeps using that term. i do not think it means what he thinks it means. :> | Jun 08 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, "professional" is pretending to storm out of the IRC room and snipe at people from Twitter using the twitter bot schestowitz has following him | Jun 08 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | don't you see that? | Jun 08 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | clearly professional | Jun 08 17:49 |
| ThistleWeb | yes I did that once, I didn't pretend to leave, I did leave | Jun 08 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, bullshit... :) | Jun 08 17:49 |
| MinceR | yet you're still here | Jun 08 17:49 |
| ThistleWeb | yes, "did" was past tense | Jun 08 17:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Android's App Attrition Rate Much Higher than #iOS: 32% vs. 19% - http://rww.to/m8JltZ & that's *good* - less rubbish to sort through | Jun 08 17:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android's App Attrition Rate Much Higher than iOS: 32% vs. 19% .::. Size~: 42.25 KB | Jun 08 17:50 |
| ThistleWeb | different from "present tense" as in "now" | Jun 08 17:50 |
| ThistleWeb | glad you noticed | Jun 08 17:50 |
| MinceR | ragequit & rejoin :> | Jun 08 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | 'calculated return" is also past tense isn't it? | Jun 08 17:50 |
| ThistleWeb | the logic for not putting people off is still valid, it doesn't stop at blog poasts | Jun 08 17:51 |
| ThistleWeb | posts* | Jun 08 17:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Reality Distortion, Same Florian Müller for Taxing #Linux http://is.gd/cDGTaw #mobbyists #lobbying #android #google #swpats | Jun 08 17:51 | |
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| ThistleWeb | as I said before, if you wanna spend all that time writing posts to have people dismiss them within a paragraph, it's your choice | Jun 08 17:51 |
| MinceR | if people are put off by informal language, they shouldn't use irc | Jun 08 17:51 |
| ThistleWeb | the same applies when people come in here | Jun 08 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | ThistleWeb, If someone is offended by Crapple, Monopo$soft, SCOracle, hypepad, hypepod, hypephone, hypeOS, and OS SuX, then they probably wouldn't be here anyway | Jun 08 17:52 |
| MinceR | different conventions apply to different media | Jun 08 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | the only people who are offended by an amusing term for Apple products are people who probably own every one of them anyway | Jun 08 17:52 |
| MinceR | and yes, if people are offended by mocking names of their favorite companies and products, chances are i don't want to talk to them anyway. :> | Jun 08 17:52 |
| ThistleWeb | informal langauge is one thing, people expect that in a real time chat, complete with typos, soemtime heated debates, sometime over mistakes, it's not the same thing as a culture of childish name calling at every turn | Jun 08 17:52 |
| MinceR | you keep using that term. i don't think it means what you think it means. | Jun 08 17:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] New Reality Distortion, Same Florian Müller for Taxing Linux http://is.gd/cDGTaw #patents #motorola #disinformation #oracle #eu | Jun 08 17:53 | |
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| ThistleWeb | the problem with name calling, is that the ONLY people who like it are hte hardline FSF people, and what are you telling them that they don't already know? | Jun 08 17:53 |
| schestowitz | [17:46] <ThistleWeb> making someone an op, means you trust them with the impression people have | Jun 08 17:53 |
| schestowitz | We needed ops | Jun 08 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Anti-Linux people attack the site and the channels | Jun 08 17:53 |
| ThistleWeb | you're building a glass ceiling by the simple need to be childish about things | Jun 08 17:53 |
| MinceR | op != author of the posts on the website | Jun 08 17:54 |
| ThistleWeb | yes you do need ops | Jun 08 17:54 |
| MinceR | i think the posts are still signed | Jun 08 17:54 |
| MinceR | if people can't be bothered to check who wrote what, they're welcome to keep their ignorance. | Jun 08 17:54 |
| ThistleWeb | MinceR: everyone here plays a part in the impression people get when they visit | Jun 08 17:54 |
| MinceR | ThistleWeb: even visitors, then. | Jun 08 17:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @macno: brdcst.it just recevied the first PuSH post from a statusnet instance using !IPv6 | Jun 08 17:55 | |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: what about blog comments | Jun 08 17:55 |
| ThistleWeb | MinceR: ahh so you're happy to keep the site as a fanatics paradise, to restrict it's potential | Jun 08 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Like people who say that someMicrosoft staff should get the death penalty | Jun 08 17:55 |
| MinceR | people who nitpick about form (for example, this sentence begins with a lowercase letter!) aren't going to understand substance | Jun 08 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Should we also start censoring comments, ThistleWeb? | Jun 08 17:55 |
| schestowitz | [17:55] <ThistleWeb> MinceR: ahh so you're happy to keep the site as a fanatics paradise, to restrict it's potential | Jun 08 17:55 |
| ThistleWeb | are those making the comments approved with elevated privs on the site? | Jun 08 17:55 |
| MinceR | Should we adopt a stiff upper lip approach to IRC, Mr. Sinclair? | Jun 08 17:56 |
| schestowitz | The opposite is being a snob | Jun 08 17:56 |
| schestowitz | By removing opinions and attitude not compatible with mine | Jun 08 17:56 |
| ThistleWeb | people coming in here see regular users, and people trusted | Jun 08 17:56 |
| MinceR | I could start referring to things as Microsoft® and Apple®, but I don't think anyone will enjoy that. | Jun 08 17:56 |
| ThistleWeb | regular people are different from trusted people in a cmmunity | Jun 08 17:57 |
| MinceR | and trusted people are different from authors of articles. | Jun 08 17:57 |
| ThistleWeb | trusted people set the tone, that visitors see | Jun 08 17:57 |
| MinceR | this isn't rocket surgery. | Jun 08 17:57 |
| ThistleWeb | they're also in positions to help enforce any policies when required | Jun 08 17:58 |
| MinceR | there are no policies to enforce | Jun 08 17:58 |
| MinceR | we have always kept trolls around pretty much all the time | Jun 08 17:58 |
| ThistleWeb | ahh, so the IRC policy has been scraped officially then? guess it saves space on the server since it wasn't being enforced anyway | Jun 08 17:59 |
| MinceR | even if the message they had was something you wouldn't like to present as the image of this channel to outsiders | Jun 08 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 7(R) with Zune(R) and Internet Explorer(R) and DirectX(R) and Windows(R) Media(R) Directshow(R) and don't forget ActiveX(R) AERO(R) and the rest of the DEVELOPER(R) ECOSYSTEM(R) | Jun 08 17:59 |
| MinceR | i don't know what happened officially, i only see what was enforced and what was not. | Jun 08 17:59 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: indeed. | Jun 08 17:59 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: needs a few more (TM)s though. | Jun 08 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | do we have time to list them all? | Jun 08 18:00 |
| MinceR | who cares? | Jun 08 18:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 08 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | Word(R) | Jun 08 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | seriously, Word(R) | Jun 08 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 08 18:00 |
| MinceR | bbl | Jun 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/TdJnY.gif | Jun 08 18:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | Jun 08 18:01 |
| *schestowitz feels immature for linking to an animated gif :-) | Jun 08 18:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Interessanter Artikel über Neil Youngs neues/altes Album: http://outl.ws/1t | Jun 08 18:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Süddeutsche Zeitung Magazin - SZ-Diskothek » Wie konservativ ist Neil Young? .::. Size~: 56.2 KB | Jun 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | [17:59] <ThistleWeb> ahh, so the IRC policy has been scraped officially then? | Jun 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Why scraped? | Jun 08 18:01 |
| schestowitz | We banned people who flooded the channel with nearly 1000 lines | Jun 08 18:02 |
| schestowitz | All 3 channels in fact | Jun 08 18:02 |
| ThistleWeb | my point before still stands, anyone trying to find out about issues like OOXML, where do they go to investigate? a fanboi site who can't resist the name calling? or some professional site that can, even if it's written by someone like Florian. Guess who gets quoted and linked? When you have that layer of professionalism on the posts and say "come talk to us", and it's fulla endorsed name calling | Jun 08 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Who here violates netiquette? | Jun 08 18:02 |
| schestowitz | I dare give DaemonFC credit for improving his behaviour | Jun 08 18:02 |
| ThistleWeb | <MinceR> there are no policies to enforce | Jun 08 18:02 |
| schestowitz | And MinceR stopped making statements about Jobs and fire years ago | Jun 08 18:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jspaleta: As always its what Mark doesn't say about his own company's performance as a business that speaks the loudest. | Jun 08 18:03 | |
| schestowitz | < ThistleWeb > | Jun 08 18:03 |
| schestowitz | :"Guess who gets quoted and linked?" | Jun 08 18:03 |
| schestowitz | The spammer | Jun 08 18:03 |
| schestowitz | You seem not to know how he operates | Jun 08 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | the ipod can be decent if you nuke the default firmware and load something open source that supports more than 3 codecs | Jun 08 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | but then, why pay the $300? :) | Jun 08 18:03 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: read this http://techrights.org/2011/04/16/how-mobbyists-operate/ | Jun 08 18:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Microsoft Florian ‘Cooks’ Spin | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.22 KB | Jun 08 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Then come back to me, honestly | Jun 08 18:04 |
| ThistleWeb | I know how Florian works | Jun 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Florian called Moglen "fidel" | Jun 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | That's not professionalismn | Jun 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | he also threatens people | Jun 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | He's a lobbyist | Jun 08 18:04 |
| ThistleWeb | I know | Jun 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | He is quoted because this is what he scores points/cookies for | Jun 08 18:04 |
| ender_33 | 09:56 < DaemonFC> ender_33 is probably next | Jun 08 18:05 |
| ender_33 | If I was an OP, yeah for sure | Jun 08 18:05 |
| schestowitz | I don't push my articles to people with influence, I tweet them to those who might be interested. Pull, not push | Jun 08 18:05 |
| ThistleWeb | look, it's up to you what you do with this site, it's image and IRC, I'm just saying the name calling puts a glass ceiling above you, but having people dismiss it as a fanboi site who will say anything | Jun 08 18:05 |
| ThistleWeb | that also extends to the culture in IRC if people are curious enough to join and talk to us | Jun 08 18:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana But it's not in CentOS? WTF!? | Jun 08 18:06 | |
| ThistleWeb | if they come in at a random point, and it's a stream of anti-apple, or jono baiting, with name calling at every turn.....what impression do they get? | Jun 08 18:06 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/iRRwp.jpg | Jun 08 18:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jun 08 18:07 |
| ThistleWeb | do they reassess your posts with that impression? | Jun 08 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | ThistleWeb, The reason the bad guys always seem so professional is because they're PR people and they're just spouting out tons of lies in carefully constructed politically correct ways, and then they censor their comments section | Jun 08 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | you want schestowitz to do that, just say that | Jun 08 18:07 |
| ThistleWeb | do they look and see who the people doing it are, to find it's someone you trust to be an op, and sometimes you yourself | Jun 08 18:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, they censor | Jun 08 18:07 |
| schestowitz | And they are seen for what they are | Jun 08 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Arrogant cocks | Jun 08 18:07 |
| schestowitz | People don't trust Microsoft Jack much.. | Jun 08 18:07 |
| schestowitz | They can see for themselves who he is serving and it's the Uncle Sams of IT | Jun 08 18:08 |
| ender_33 | 10:02 < ThistleWeb> the problem with name calling, is that the ONLY people who like it are hte hardline FSF people, and what are you telling them that they don't already know? | Jun 08 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Not the developers and the people | Jun 08 18:08 |
| ender_33 | +1 | Jun 08 18:08 |
| ThistleWeb | ye Gods, the world really has gone loopy if ender_33 agrees with me on something | Jun 08 18:08 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | Jun 08 18:09 |
| schestowitz | http://i34.tinypic.com/1zywhs.jpg | Jun 08 18:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | Jun 08 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | ThistleWeb, Even a broken watch is right twice a day | Jun 08 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 08 18:10 |
| ThistleWeb | there is that lol | Jun 08 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Have a LOL guys ... http://www.weirdsnaps.com/2011/06/locked-out/ | Jun 08 18:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me in an hour at 11am Pac / 2pm Eas / 6pm UTC / 7pm UK for my live Ubuntu video Q+A session at http://is.gd/vAp17e #ubuntu | Jun 08 18:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ffs! even the printer configuration dialogue is fscked up in !kubuntu #natty? really? it was fine 2 years ag, what the hell happened?! !kde | Jun 08 18:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: At Home With Jono Bacon on USTREAM: Ramblings on community, Linux and technology from Jono Bacon.. .::. Size~: 60.24 KB | Jun 08 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | n00bs, they don't even have a remote control for the lock | Jun 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | my 1995 Ford has that | Jun 08 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | maybe if they use the taser it will comply | Jun 08 18:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] what the hell is this shit: http://wklej.org/id/543136/ !ku #natty #printing | Jun 08 18:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unfortunate name... [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/6ItnN.jpg #funny | Jun 08 18:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | lmao | Jun 08 18:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Anyone know what the license of !CC licenses is/are? cc: @mlinksva #toolazytolookitup | Jun 08 18:16 | |
| schestowitz | gplhttp://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/78493496104861696 | Jun 08 18:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #GPL is Declining According to Friends of #Microsoft http://is.gd/GPKc1A #fsf #gnu | Jun 08 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: I agree with your point | Jun 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | About professionalism | Jun 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | But I do not agree with the solution you proposes | Jun 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | *sed | Jun 08 18:17 |
| schestowitz | I was told this even in 2008, but IRC is still crucial and it's not going to change really | Jun 08 18:18 |
| ThistleWeb | it's your live real time chat with people around the project, to help spread the word, I agree, which is why it's important to not put people off | Jun 08 18:18 |
| ThistleWeb | it's important that it doesn't undermine the blog posts that brought people to it | Jun 08 18:19 |
| ThistleWeb | why have the facade of profesionalism only on the posts? | Jun 08 18:20 |
| schestowitz | It's not a facade. | Jun 08 18:20 |
| schestowitz | I don't act childish here | Jun 08 18:20 |
| schestowitz | I'm a person | Jun 08 18:20 |
| schestowitz | I don't have to act like some robot | Jun 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Your approach of pointing fingers to suggest banning/demoting people is counter-productive | Jun 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | I think that some people here are laid back cause it's IRC | Jun 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | And when trolls point at IRC people still know it's IRC | Jun 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | And they can treat it accordingly | Jun 08 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Just like when I point to a comment on an article I don't attribute that comment to the article's author | Jun 08 18:21 |
| ThistleWeb | k, as I said, it's your project | Jun 08 18:23 |
| ThistleWeb | feel free to carry on as you see fit | Jun 08 18:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] found the bug: http://ur1.ca/4dcel nothing going on there. meanwhile I cannot add another printer, cannot print duplex !ku #natty #failwhale | Jun 08 18:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bug #776224 in kdeadmin (Ubuntu): “system-config-printer-kde tool won't start on Kubuntu 11.04” .::. Size~: 47.82 KB | Jun 08 18:23 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: thanks for understanding | Jun 08 18:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra You have a +1 button on your blog? | Jun 08 18:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Open-source,' privately-funded rocket lifts off http://is.gd/BRz1Iz "self-described Danish open-source, privately-funded, non-profit" | Jun 08 18:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 'Open-source,' privately-funded rocket lifts off | ZDNet .::. Size~: 86.19 KB | Jun 08 18:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Afraid of what? Does @bkuhn bite people's heads off? :D | Jun 08 18:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Will your next PC be running Android? http://is.gd/8PB7h8 #linux | Jun 08 18:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft has no problem with Linux. Microsoft has a problem with _not being paid for Linux_. #swpats #fud | Jun 08 18:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh yup, I figured I'd give it a go and see if it helps, but I think "+1" is ripe for abuse by nefarious characters | Jun 08 18:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Will your next PC be running Android? | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 83.33 KB | Jun 08 18:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !RantOFabKuhn 1 is gonna be awesome! :D | Jun 08 18:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BluSphere - Sleek #Linux Pre-Installed Computers http://is.gd/x5WKRJ "5% of the profits on every notebook they sell back to open source" | Jun 08 18:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra LOL! Isn't it just Google's "Like Button" ripoff? | Jun 08 18:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Thoughts on Technology: BluSphere - Sleek Linux Pre-Installed Computers .::. Size~: 69.34 KB | Jun 08 18:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: #Kororaa 14 "Nemo" http://is.gd/2TUxIe "I had no stability or other issues with KDE, which is at version 4.6 in Kororaa." | Jun 08 18:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Review: Kororaa 14 "Nemo" .::. Size~: 98.07 KB | Jun 08 18:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh *somehow* it is supposed to compete with "Like", but a crowd-sourced page rank seems to easy to exploit with bots | Jun 08 18:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] What preset from #libx264 would you use for you none HD home video #lo #h.264 #Linux | Jun 08 18:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] #BillMaher on Christians celebrating death of Osama #binLaden http://ur1.ca/4dcgg #funny #OBL | Jun 08 18:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Bill Maher nails it! .::. Size~: 113.36 KB | Jun 08 18:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.lemagit.fr/article/oracle-openoffice-apache-opensource/8895/1/openoffice-org-chez-apache-une-gifle-document-foundation/ | Jun 08 18:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OpenOffice.org chez Apache : une gifle à la Document Foundation::Poste de travail::LeMagIT .::. Size~: 108.61 KB | Jun 08 18:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Today I realised that Linux Journal hardly publishes anything anymore (front page) and Linux Magazin[e] went silent. :-( | Jun 08 18:45 | |
| DaemonFC | I gave up following all things BlOOoated Office a while back | Jun 08 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | Koffice does what I need it to and doesn't feel like a non native overweight app that takes 20 seconds just to load a word processor | Jun 08 18:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @macno: brdcst.it just recevied the first PuSH post from a statusnet instance using !IPv6 <provider says no ipv6 4my Internet machine :-( | Jun 08 18:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @macno: brdcst.it just recevied the first PuSH post from a statusnet instance using !IPv6 | Jun 08 18:46 | |
| cubezzz | I don't use Koffice either | Jun 08 18:46 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Jun 08 18:47 | |
| cubezzz | sometimes I use google apps or convert the data to ascii | Jun 08 18:47 |
| cubezzz | e,g, xls2csv | Jun 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | ♺ @lamm #BillMaher on Christians celebrating death of Osama #binLaden http://ur1.ca/4dcgg #funny #OBL | Jun 08 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Bill Maher nails it! .::. Size~: 112.82 KB | Jun 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Jun 08 18:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jezra *cough* *cough* "too" not "to". Drink some more coffee you bastard! | Jun 08 18:48 | |
| *DaemonFC (~ryan@adsl-108-72-234-235.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights | Jun 08 18:48 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13689609 | Jun 08 18:48 |
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| DaemonFC | color me "I'm buying it" | Jun 08 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | How much more of my money can I give them on launch day? | Jun 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz | http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2011/06/its-been-bad-day.html | Jun 08 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Blog of Helios: It's been a bad day.... .::. Size~: 65.72 KB | Jun 08 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | Who do I need to punch in the face at Walmart? | Jun 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: depends | Jun 08 18:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: oh, that.. | Jun 08 18:50 |
| cubezzz | the owner? :) | Jun 08 18:50 |
| schestowitz | you hid it before the sale.. | Jun 08 18:50 |
| schestowitz | ambushing bargains | Jun 08 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | the FAILBOX 360 | Jun 08 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | worst mistake I've ever made with electronics | Jun 08 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | uggh | Jun 08 18:50 |
| cubezzz | oh I forgot to mention... really old quantum fireballs, I'm talking 1990 era, some of them still work | Jun 08 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | I bought an original XBOX after they cut the price a lot and revisioned it several times already | Jun 08 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | and it still works | Jun 08 18:51 |
| cubezzz | ok, so the moral of the story is....? | Jun 08 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | well, with FAILBOX 360, the problems still haven't been worked out | Jun 08 18:52 |
| cubezzz | oftentimes older stuff is better | Jun 08 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | they keep saying it's safe to go back in the water then something else goes wrong | Jun 08 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | the 1.4 revision of old XBOX is pretty reliable | Jun 08 18:52 |
| cubezzz | I bet it overheats a lot | Jun 08 18:54 |
| cubezzz | heat kills | Jun 08 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | Nintendo is the only console maker with new hardware in the pipeline | Jun 08 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | Sony already said PS4 won't have much R&D budget and Microsoft is doubling down on FAILBOX 360 | Jun 08 18:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I started blogging at the urging of colleagues at IBM." ~IWB (man behind Linux strategy at IBM) http://is.gd/N2hegZ | Jun 08 18:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Evolution of My Complex Relationship with Blogging .::. Size~: 47.67 KB | Jun 08 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | FAILBOX 360, 360 degrees of FAIL, it's like being covered in essence of Ballmer | Jun 08 18:55 |
| cubezzz | it's an odd pattern, but a lot of my longest lasting stuff is from the early 1990's | Jun 08 18:56 |
| cubezzz | sometimes late 1980's | Jun 08 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | Nintendo is affordable, innovative, and has reliable hardware. And they haven't exactly gone out of their way to brick your console if you install homebrew channel or Linux on it. | Jun 08 18:56 |
| ender_33 | 10:03 < ThistleWeb> MinceR: everyone here plays a part in the impression people get when they visit | Jun 08 18:58 |
| ender_33 | so techrights pushes neanderthallers? | Jun 08 18:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] DNA logic gates calculate square root using 130 different molecules http://is.gd/73oUcQ #math #science | Jun 08 19:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DNA logic gates calculate square root using 130 different molecules .::. Size~: 34.3 KB | Jun 08 19:00 |
| ThistleWeb | ender_33: you lost me | Jun 08 19:00 |
| ender_33 | conspiracy theories, 9/11 truth, etc | Jun 08 19:00 |
| ender_33 | 11:06 < DaemonFC> Nintendo is affordable, innovative, and has reliable hardware. And they haven't exactly gone out of their way to brick your console if you install homebrew channel or Linux on it. | Jun 08 19:01 |
| ender_33 | We'll see how they handle the 3DS | Jun 08 19:01 |
| ender_33 | I think they'll still be non-evil | Jun 08 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me in a few mins for my live Ubuntu video Q+A at http://is.gd/vAp17e - bring your burning questions! #ubuntu | Jun 08 19:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] European Parliament debate on Assange (video) http://is.gd/ZKQBMC | Jun 08 19:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google pits C++ against Java, Scala, and Go http://is.gd/x6SQsW #programming #google #oop #cplusplus | Jun 08 19:01 | |
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| ender_33 | despite what the idiots at the fsf have to say about Nintendo | Jun 08 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Assange case: European Arrest Warrant used for political purposes - Gerard Batten MEP | Articles | UK Independence Party in the European Parliament .::. Size~: 31.88 KB | Jun 08 19:01 |
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| ThistleWeb | yes, there's a lot of that here on occasion, mixed in with discussion of real stuff that's also kept below the radar and dismissed by the guilty as a conspiracy theory to try and avoid it being investigated | Jun 08 19:01 |
| ender_33 | what? | Jun 08 19:02 |
| ThistleWeb | you asked me a question, I answered it | Jun 08 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | ender_33, The FSF is extreme, they want you to refuse proprietary software even in cases where it is very difficult or impossible | Jun 08 19:02 |
| ender_33 | I don't understand what you're saying | Jun 08 19:02 |
| ender_33 | can you rephrase it | Jun 08 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | such as when no acceptable free alternative exists | Jun 08 19:02 |
| ender_33 | DaemonFC - the FSF lies about nintendo collecting personal information | Jun 08 19:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Amazon #fail [IMG] http://imgur.com/6MKoe | Jun 08 19:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm not saying I hate FOSS, I'm saying that as decent FOSS comes along I replace proprietary applications with it | Jun 08 19:03 |
| ender_33 | everything on it is opt-in | Jun 08 19:03 |
| ender_33 | i dont hate FOSS either | Jun 08 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | not that I agree to leave big gaping holes where there is no FOSS | Jun 08 19:03 |
| ender_33 | I hate zealoty | Jun 08 19:03 |
| ender_33 | zealotry | Jun 08 19:03 |
| ThistleWeb | I mean there's plenty of conspiracy theory discussion here at times, mixing the outragous stuff with real stuff | Jun 08 19:03 |
| ender_33 | you can't avoid proprietary food | Jun 08 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | ender_33, Nintendo doesn't have any information about me that I didn't put on my warranty card | Jun 08 19:04 |
| ender_33 | DaemonFC same here | Jun 08 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | does the FSF complain about small kitchen appliances and air conditioners? | Jun 08 19:04 |
| ender_33 | I can CHOOSE to link my club nintendo account to my estore | Jun 08 19:04 |
| ender_33 | I can still buy from the estore without it | Jun 08 19:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @arkblitz Photo - http://goo.gl/aSQbF << gasp! | Jun 08 19:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | you don't have to give them any personal info to use the Nintendo store | Jun 08 19:05 |
| *hemimaniac has quit (Quit: I got raided by CSIS and all i got to keep was this lousy QUIT message!!) | Jun 08 19:05 | |
| ender_33 | prepaid cards are usable | Jun 08 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | you can buy prepaid credits on a card at the store | Jun 08 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | and pay cash | Jun 08 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | same price | Jun 08 19:05 |
| ender_33 | even when setting up your info on the 3DS, it tells you to make sure your nickname isnt your real name | Jun 08 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | right, the FSF is on a smear campaign against Nintendo | Jun 08 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | the only valid argument that they have is that your GAME CONSOLE runs a proprietary operating system | Jun 08 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | boo hoo | Jun 08 19:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/446644/rss | Jun 08 19:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | ender_33, I don't think the "free software" debate even comes into play on a gaming device that you bought as a gaming device to use as a device to play games on. | Jun 08 19:07 |
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| DaemonFC | It's just a chance to spread more nonsense | Jun 08 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | people buy a general purpose PC with higher expectations | Jun 08 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | free software helps them realize more of those expectations | Jun 08 19:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Transmetric sensor array? You know, sadly I understood that. Where did all those Saturday nights go?" - Dr. McKay | Jun 08 19:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A "support contract" sounds like something a bra factory would agree with a bra retailer ;P #fb | Jun 08 19:08 | |
| DaemonFC | ender_33, general purpose PC gives you the impression that you can do anything you damned well please with it and damn the torpedoes | Jun 08 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | then Windows and other crap gets in the way of that | Jun 08 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | that's where I'm at on the "where does FOSS matter?" question | Jun 08 19:09 |
| ender_33 | I suspect that the FSF got a bulk deal on the bricks and pocketed the rest | Jun 08 19:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: US knowingly supported rigged Haitian election http://is.gd/qckQ7D | Jun 08 19:10 | |
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| ender_33 | its a money grab | Jun 08 19:10 |
| ender_33 | Nintendo even says all the time they sell gaming devices | Jun 08 19:11 |
| ender_33 | not general purpose hardware | Jun 08 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | FSF wants to stamp out every last bit of anything proprietary just for the sake of saying they did | Jun 08 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | they should write replacements when they can, and back off when it doesn't matter | Jun 08 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | ender_33, The same situation comes up with Photoshop "Why is Photoshop expensive?" It's specialty software that few people really need. "Why do people pirate it then?" Because they can. | Jun 08 19:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Oh my God, he IS Kirk!" :D #McKayRocks | Jun 08 19:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra True. Still... Cool idea. | Jun 08 19:15 | |
| DaemonFC | not sure how the existence of Photoshop impairs the coexistence of GIMP | Jun 08 19:15 |
| ender_33 | I would love to see the FSF actually create something | Jun 08 19:16 |
| ThistleWeb | most of the people who say they want photoshop etc native on linux, mean they want an easy FREE version on linux, that they can throw a keygen serial at to make it full | Jun 08 19:16 |
| cubezzz | well, I bought some loki games, and they were proprietary | Jun 08 19:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] RT @eff Achievement unlocked: set up Tor relays, get a @MollyCrabapple poster https://eff.org/r.462 #torchallenge HT @TorProject | Jun 08 19:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Achievement Unlocked: Set Up Tor Relays, Get a Molly Crabapple Poster | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 21.1 KB | Jun 08 19:16 |
| cubezzz | I've used proprietary tax software | Jun 08 19:16 |
| ThistleWeb | if adobe do release it in a way that windows and osx serials don't work in linux versions, those people wont buy it | Jun 08 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | FSF imo, tries to make everything an Us v. Them, even spreading lies about free software that doesn't jive with them | Jun 08 19:16 |
| cubezzz | so there are some exceptions | Jun 08 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | the truth is there's only a few Microsoft-like organizations out there | Jun 08 19:17 |
| cubezzz | not many in my case, but some | Jun 08 19:17 |
| ThistleWeb | the FSF don't do their cause any good imho with some of their campaigns and approaches | Jun 08 19:17 |
| ender_33 | if the FSF can make something equal to the 3DS that would be awesome | Jun 08 19:17 |
| cubezzz | the Windows 7 deadly sins ad was clever though | Jun 08 19:17 |
| ThistleWeb | their approach turns many of the people who are broadly on their side, off supporting them | Jun 08 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The transcended Ancients obey the Prime Directive. :D #sga | Jun 08 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Wiki Wednesday: June 8, 2011 http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/06/wiki-wednesday-june-8-2011/ | Jun 08 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] 344 new relays! Thanks to EFF! Relay bump! https://metrics.torproject.org/network.html #tor #eff | Jun 08 19:18 | |
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| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, I doubt many people even realize the FSF exists | Jun 08 19:18 |
| cubezzz | we do, but we're always thinking about stuff like that | Jun 08 19:19 |
| ThistleWeb | and those who do, are confronted by some nutter trying to lecture them at an apple stor | Jun 08 19:19 |
| ender_33 | I support ESR | Jun 08 19:19 |
| ThistleWeb | store* | Jun 08 19:19 |
| ender_33 | over RMS | Jun 08 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | ThistleWeb, Lets harass some wage slave over what the CEO is doing. | Jun 08 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 08 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | so petty | Jun 08 19:20 |
| ThistleWeb | people confronted by that have never heard of FOSS, GNU, FSF etc, their first oimpression of all of it, is some nutter lecturing them, hassling the staff etc, it makes them think "whatever cult he's part of, I don't want any part of it" | Jun 08 19:21 |
| cubezzz | offline I see almost no FOSS or GNU/FSF people of any type | Jun 08 19:22 |
| ThistleWeb | that sets an impression for later on too, where they may find themselves exploring FOSS culture on their own at some point, the last thing you wanna do is taint the image so they don't even look | Jun 08 19:22 |
| ThistleWeb | cubezzz: I know the feeling | Jun 08 19:22 |
| cubezzz | just one computer store with a guy who likes bsd | Jun 08 19:22 |
| cubezzz | one person | Jun 08 19:22 |
| ThistleWeb | I did a blog post about "why do we do this to ourselves" | Jun 08 19:23 |
| cubezzz | that's not even GNU even | Jun 08 19:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Two #Genivi automotive IVI platforms debut - http://bit.ly/jeM4vf #linux does cars | Jun 08 19:23 | |
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| ender_33 | < ThistleWeb> -thats why i suggested that perhaps its almost like a religion | Jun 08 19:23 |
| ender_33 | "whatever cult he's part of, I don't want any part of it" | Jun 08 19:23 |
| ThistleWeb | which is about engaging with real people who don't care about computers, so what if they use ipods, facebook etc | Jun 08 19:23 |
| ender_33 | well food and clothes and cars are proprietary | Jun 08 19:24 |
| ender_33 | same with bus's | Jun 08 19:24 |
| ender_33 | wheres the open source food, cars, etc | Jun 08 19:24 |
| ender_33 | they have OpenCola | Jun 08 19:24 |
| ThistleWeb | doesn't mean you have to, it's just about chilling out and accepting their choice, not lecturing them on stuff they don't care about | Jun 08 19:24 |
| ender_33 | you have to built it yourself from source though :> | Jun 08 19:24 |
| ThistleWeb | by all means advocate a free option | Jun 08 19:24 |
| ender_33 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_(drink) | Jun 08 19:25 |
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| ThistleWeb | you can't like a totally FOSS life, no matter how hard you try | Jun 08 19:25 |
| ender_33 | some do - linux-libre | Jun 08 19:25 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 08 19:25 |
| ender_33 | where even the kernel isnt free enough for some | Jun 08 19:25 |
| ThistleWeb | do you ask the store to check everything in your basket was made entirely FOSS? "can you assure me that even the recipe wasn't written on a windows PC?" | Jun 08 19:26 |
| ender_33 | ROFL | Jun 08 19:26 |
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| ender_33 | "I won't eat at McDonalds anymore they use windows" | Jun 08 19:26 |
| ThistleWeb | "I refuse to buy this tin of soup unless every part of it's creation was open" | Jun 08 19:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk the problem with being oldest (or only) is that makes you your parents learning experience | Jun 08 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] hopefully Summer will start soon and these lil buddies will grow http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110608 #sip_and_click | Jun 08 19:26 | |
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| ender_33 | "Im switching banks, they use os/2 and its proprietary" | Jun 08 19:26 |
| ender_33 | etc | Jun 08 19:26 |
| cubezzz | I just want to be able to buy a blank computer.... | Jun 08 19:27 |
| ender_33 | cubezzz YOU CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Jun 08 19:27 |
| ender_33 | WWW.CANADACOMPUTERS.COM | Jun 08 19:27 |
| ender_33 | seriously | Jun 08 19:27 |
| ThistleWeb | "can you assure me that the boat that transported this item to this country runs entirely on open sourced software? that also goes for the distribution & delivery network, as well as your own chain of stores" | Jun 08 19:27 |
| ender_33 | you can build your own or buy a blank one from them | Jun 08 19:27 |
| cubezzz | anyways it's about the software | Jun 08 19:28 |
| ender_33 | its NOT hard | Jun 08 19:28 |
| cubezzz | not hardware | Jun 08 19:28 |
| ThistleWeb | "your till is windows, you failed" | Jun 08 19:28 |
| ender_33 | "you work with windows? M$ $HILL" | Jun 08 19:28 |
| cubezzz | the software one chooses to use, not what others choose | Jun 08 19:28 |
| ThistleWeb | everything is about compromise, open principles can only go so far | Jun 08 19:29 |
| ThistleWeb | cubezzz: that's how I see it | Jun 08 19:29 |
| ThistleWeb | plenty of people use windows at work because someone at work decided it was a good idea | Jun 08 19:29 |
| ender_33 | yup | Jun 08 19:29 |
| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, I got some closed source code, I wanted it and I got access | Jun 08 19:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jimmorgan It was on this date in 1949 that 1984 was released. | Jun 08 19:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Say Goodbye to Google Search Portals for Linux, Mac and More http://bit.ly/lqyTL9 | Jun 08 19:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Say Goodbye to Google Search Portals for Linux, Mac and More | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 75.12 KB | Jun 08 19:30 |
| cubezzz | I had to sign a NDA... it's was a compromise | Jun 08 19:30 |
| ThistleWeb | they only get the respite of their chosen OS when they get home, or on their netbook by the side of the desk that's not owned by the company | Jun 08 19:30 |
| cubezzz | then I was able to fix bugs and add features | Jun 08 19:30 |
| ender_33 | ThistleWeb - my fedora powered HP Mini 110 | Jun 08 19:31 |
| ThistleWeb | that's not to say there's no choice, there's always a choice | Jun 08 19:31 |
| ender_33 | right next to me | Jun 08 19:31 |
| ender_33 | lol | Jun 08 19:31 |
| cubezzz | .... if you work hard, yes | Jun 08 19:31 |
| ender_33 | then I have ssh/nx to my desktop at home | Jun 08 19:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] World IPv6 Day - what a royal sham! | Jun 08 19:31 | |
| cubezzz | there's coreboot + GNU+Linux | Jun 08 19:31 |
| ThistleWeb | sometimes the choice is "work there under those conditions, or find another job" | Jun 08 19:31 |
| ThistleWeb | which I'd argue isn't a real choice | Jun 08 19:32 |
| ThistleWeb | specially when money is tight, and jobs are disappearing | Jun 08 19:32 |
| cubezzz | I'm fortunate, work is on GNU+Linux most of the time | Jun 08 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | the problem with the BIOS is that the code can stay running, it doesn't just exit always | Jun 08 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | depends on the BIOS | Jun 08 19:32 |
| cubezzz | DaemonFC, but with the source you can see exactly what it does | Jun 08 19:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Your younger siblings get the benefit of what your parents learned from practicing on you #onthejobtraining | Jun 08 19:33 | |
| cubezzz | the first PCs were like that... you got the full assembly source code to the BIOS | Jun 08 19:34 |
| ender_33 | the FSF will receive a letter back from Nintendo saying they are wrong about most of their claims | Jun 08 19:34 |
| ender_33 | and they'll never publish it | Jun 08 19:35 |
| cubezzz | that ended with the trinity of TRS-80, Apple II and Commodore PET though | Jun 08 19:35 |
| cubezzz | of course, even with the binary you can dump it and analyze it | Jun 08 19:35 |
| cubezzz | just takes longer | Jun 08 19:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Apple’s iCloud punishes honest iTunes users with DRM - http://bit.ly/iMM9pW #DRM: the gift that keeps taking | Jun 08 19:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @dai Facebook sorry over face tagging launch http://ur1.ca/4dcm7 !privacy | Jun 08 19:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | ender_33, Right, the FSF doesn't want to post a well thought out item from the people they are trying to FUD | Jun 08 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | if they just quash it, you only get the FSF side of the story | Jun 08 19:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: US bid to shore up Harper http://is.gd/r4cGKr | Jun 08 19:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Creekside: WikiLeaks : US bid to "shore up" Harper from the day he was elected .::. Size~: 82.79 KB | Jun 08 19:45 |
| koolhead17 | schestowitz hellos :) | Jun 08 19:46 |
| cubezzz | the FSF also keeps GPL violaters in check | Jun 08 19:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @wikileaks2 !WikiLeaks: US bid to shore up Harper http://ur1.ca/4dcsq << perhaps why Tom #Flanagan walks free? !cdnpoli !canada | Jun 08 19:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Creekside: WikiLeaks : US bid to "shore up" Harper from the day he was elected .::. Size~: 82.79 KB | Jun 08 19:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh what I'd really like to see is a "-1" in Google search results that will allow me to mark a result as a dogshit link baiting site | Jun 08 19:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Hilarious! RT @cnet: We enlisted Academy Award winner Richard Dreyfuss to do a dramatic read of the iTunes EULA https://eff.org/r.564 | Jun 08 19:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Man Tries to Patent His "Godly Powers" - http://ur1.ca/4dct0 Someone tell me this is an anti #swpat prank and not a for real lunatic... | Jun 08 19:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Oracle donates OpenOffice.org to Apache http://lwn.net/Articles/446093/rss | Jun 08 19:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @pkazmierczak: 8 websites you need to stop building: http://t.co/tEJp94m | Jun 08 19:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Observations of the European Commission hearing on access to and preservation of scientific information: http://bit.ly/jipWGT | Jun 08 19:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Warehouse 13 is so bizarre! | Jun 08 19:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: European Commission hearing on access to and preservation of scientific information - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 19.51 KB | Jun 08 19:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Kids! I work with kids!" - Arty | Jun 08 20:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #EvilBob has a very interesting bio https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bjensen | Jun 08 20:05 | |
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| schestowitz | [19:03] <ender_33> I hate zealoty << some might describe you too as a zealot | Jun 08 20:05 |
| schestowitz | E.g. calling people "communists" when they are not because you don't agree with them | Jun 08 20:06 |
| schestowitz | I don't like hypocrisy | Jun 08 20:06 |
| schestowitz | And you'd not find me being hypocrite much | Jun 08 20:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Canadian Chamber of Commerce Floats Fake $30 Billion #Counterfeiting Claim - http://bit.ly/kBhUBl bogus again, not #evidence-based #ca | Jun 08 20:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 08 20:06 |
| schestowitz | [19:11] <DaemonFC> FSF wants to stamp out every last bit of anything proprietary just for the sake of saying they did << not true | Jun 08 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Straw man | Jun 08 20:07 |
| schestowitz | [19:16] <ender_33> I would love to see the FSF actually create something < go to gnu.org | Jun 08 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Look under Savannah | Jun 08 20:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Canadian Chamber of Commerce Floats Fake $30 Billion #Counterfeiting Claim - http://bit.ly/kBhUBl bogus again, not #eviden ... | Jun 08 20:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 08 20:08 |
| schestowitz | the first program running on your PC is likely to be GNU GRUB | Jun 08 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Bar the bios... embedded.. proprietary, ROM | Jun 08 20:08 |
| cubezzz | ahem, some of us use coreboot :) | Jun 08 20:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @glynmoody Canadian Chamber of Commerce Floats Fake $30 Billion #Counterfeit Claim - http://bit.ly/kBhUBl not #evidence-based !cdnpoli | Jun 08 20:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Batavia Open #Genomic #Data Licence - http://bit.ly/jHSaxC new copyleft-type data licence - what fun (v @phylogenomics) | Jun 08 20:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @cwebber #Newbies if someone is in my future | Jun 08 20:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 08 20:10 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: I know, but few of us | Jun 08 20:10 |
| schestowitz | I used grub too | Jun 08 20:10 |
| schestowitz | To select kernels, no Windows | Jun 08 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Whoa. Lots of FUD there.. | Jun 08 20:11 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb would be OK with it... cause he never liked the FSF anyway | Jun 08 20:11 |
| cubezzz | FSF helped the coreboot folks, and even Tyan did for a while | Jun 08 20:11 |
| schestowitz | FSF or RMS is not against using the ATM except perhaps the privacy issue | Jun 08 20:11 |
| schestowitz | RMS prefers the ATM to chip and PI | Jun 08 20:11 |
| schestowitz | *PIN | Jun 08 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Cause this way they cannot track his groceries list | Jun 08 20:12 |
| schestowitz | And he does have a point, here we have mechanisms for encouraging people to swipe even if they pay in cash... e.g. to get 1% off | Jun 08 20:12 |
| schestowitz | RMS also used proprietary to write GNU cause he had no choice | Jun 08 20:12 |
| ThistleWeb | your right, I don't like the arrogance, name calling and lecturing campaigns of the FSF, while that's their medium, I don't like them | Jun 08 20:12 |
| schestowitz | But the goal of GNU is to avoid others from having to do that | Jun 08 20:13 |
| cubezzz | usually the bank will give you so many transactions though | Jun 08 20:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @ruiseabra: creating community schism all in the name of being able to make proprietary software, fits better on the toxic cynicism part | Jun 08 20:13 | |
| schestowitz | And the GNU system was extremely successful because here we are today browsing the Web, developing, editing videos with Free software. | Jun 08 20:13 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: that's the FSF as educator | Jun 08 20:13 |
| schestowitz | It is also a code powerhouse underneath, the GNU project | Jun 08 20:14 |
| cubezzz | ok, I'm sort of feeling the programmer/non-programmer divide here | Jun 08 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Some people are drawn into it *because* of FSF campaigns. Diff'rent strokes for different folks | Jun 08 20:14 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: I guess so.. | Jun 08 20:14 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: I'm starting another FOSS project soon | Jun 08 20:14 |
| schestowitz | will co-develop over git | Jun 08 20:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @quaid Oh, yeah, !Fedora folks - don't forget to #VOTE! https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/ | Jun 08 20:15 | |
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| cubezzz | schestowitz, that's cool. What are you working on? | Jun 08 20:15 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: I like your attitude | Jun 08 20:15 |
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| schestowitz | I bet you enjoy your code and solitude, not needing the lifestyle RMS spoke about quite well | Jun 08 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Some people are tempted by the Illusionary Way, which is harder to go by... | Jun 08 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Let me find a quote... | Jun 08 20:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ex-Google engineer dubs Goofrastructure 'truly obsolete' (Register): http://bit.ly/kRZYes | Jun 08 20:16 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: it'll be implementation of email retract at server level | Jun 08 20:17 |
| schestowitz | It's not supported by SMTP | Jun 08 20:17 |
| ThistleWeb | I see it in the same light as some religious fanatic in the street trying to "save me" by spewing quotes from their holy book, trying to engage me in something I don't care about, they get told to fuck off too | Jun 08 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Some public services here need that | Jun 08 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Cause Microsoft does this with Exchange/Outlook | Jun 08 20:17 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: they talk about fiction | Jun 08 20:17 |
| schestowitz | FSF explains the relation to society | Jun 08 20:17 |
| ThistleWeb | that's if I respond at all, most of the time I just ignore them | Jun 08 20:17 |
| schestowitz | So it's different | Jun 08 20:17 |
| ThistleWeb | they lecture on subjects regular people don't care about | Jun 08 20:18 |
| schestowitz | If someone in the streets waved a bible and spoke about the ills we do to Chinese youths, I'd listen | Jun 08 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Cause then it's not about religion | Jun 08 20:18 |
| schestowitz | But about my neighbours being hurt | Jun 08 20:18 |
| ThistleWeb | we care about free software, most of the compuer using public don't | Jun 08 20:18 |
| ThistleWeb | no matter how important we feel it is, they don't care | Jun 08 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Not just free software | Jun 08 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Privacy too | Jun 08 20:18 |
| schestowitz | They do anti-FB campaigns | Jun 08 20:19 |
| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, they care when their computer doesn't work :) | Jun 08 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Ask old people how they feel about FB | Jun 08 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Some hate it | Jun 08 20:19 |
| ThistleWeb | so lecturing them on that gets you ignored | Jun 08 20:19 |
| cubezzz | which is fairly often | Jun 08 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Their kids put up photos of theirs and they also have people intrude their lives. The FSF explains to people how information can be controlled better by oneself with FS | Jun 08 20:19 |
| ThistleWeb | as I've always said, advocacy is one thing, lecturing is another,m the FSF lecture | Jun 08 20:19 |
| cubezzz | ThistleWeb, the customer is always right, even when they're wrong :) | Jun 08 20:19 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: but they *don't* get ignored | Jun 08 20:19 |
| schestowitz | The GNU site gets loads of visitors | Jun 08 20:19 |
| schestowitz | 20k or 80k per day last I hread... | Jun 08 20:20 |
| ThistleWeb | yes, preaching to the converted | Jun 08 20:20 |
| schestowitz | FSF is not so much "in your face" | Jun 08 20:20 |
| schestowitz | It lectures | Jun 08 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Not preaches | Jun 08 20:20 |
| ThistleWeb | lol, yeah | Jun 08 20:20 |
| schestowitz | It does some stunts sometimes | Jun 08 20:20 |
| schestowitz | But it doesn't advertise | Jun 08 20:20 |
| schestowitz | You're not forced to look | Jun 08 20:20 |
| cubezzz | what is that versus what Microsoft has done? | Jun 08 20:21 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: 80k developers even is a big force | Jun 08 20:21 |
| ThistleWeb | yep, it does stunts to harrass regular staff, lecture customers etc | Jun 08 20:21 |
| cubezzz | it's a drop in the bucket | Jun 08 20:21 |
| schestowitz | FSF's target audience is also developers | Jun 08 20:21 |
| ThistleWeb | it's big, but compared to what? | Jun 08 20:21 |
| schestowitz | They need to convince people to share their code | Jun 08 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Ordinary people are side effects | Jun 08 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Same with regards to OEMs and computer users | Jun 08 20:21 |
| schestowitz | You need to convice OEMs to preinatall Ubuntu/Android/Fedora | Jun 08 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Not people to buy it | Jun 08 20:21 |
| schestowitz | If the OEMs advertise it, they'll but it. Some will. | Jun 08 20:22 |
| cubezzz | I just what a choice: BLANK computer | Jun 08 20:22 |
| cubezzz | I'll take it from there :) | Jun 08 20:22 |
| ThistleWeb | when you tell people their choices are invalid, you're criticisng them | Jun 08 20:22 |
| schestowitz | [20:21] <ThistleWeb> it's big, but compared to what? | Jun 08 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Not compared to Apple | Jun 08 20:22 |
| schestowitz | But how is that relevant | Jun 08 20:22 |
| schestowitz | The FSF does have impact | Jun 08 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Techrights does too | Jun 08 20:22 |
| ThistleWeb | windows isn't a great example because people don't choose that, but stuff like skype, twitter, facebook etc | Jun 08 20:22 |
| schestowitz | I'm not Apple | Jun 08 20:22 |
| schestowitz | And it does not matter | Jun 08 20:22 |
| ThistleWeb | you're telling people their not capable of making the right decisions | Jun 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | I know my reach for example... and been happy with it for many years now.. if I wrote to just 10 people, I'd still do it | Jun 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz has a nice blog | Jun 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | And we listen to his lectures | Jun 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | FSF does too | Jun 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | So why discourage the FSF? | Jun 08 20:23 |
| ThistleWeb | sorry, I thought the goal was to influence and spread the word, not limit to those who alread y get the message | Jun 08 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Are you saying that unless you spent billions advertising for reach to millions, you need not even borther? | Jun 08 20:24 |
| schestowitz | See how black people and feminisms brought change in numbers | Jun 08 20:24 |
| ThistleWeb | I'm saying there's a difference between advocacy and lecturing | Jun 08 20:24 |
| ThistleWeb | the FSF don't seem to have that concept | Jun 08 20:24 |
| schestowitz | THey were a combination of large groupings like Black Panthers and more friendly people like Rosa Parks | Jun 08 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Rosa did not have the clout of Apple | Jun 08 20:24 |
| ThistleWeb | or they think people appreciate being lectured and judged | Jun 08 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's the FSF's strategy you don't like | Jun 08 20:25 |
| ThistleWeb | exactly | Jun 08 20:25 |
| schestowitz | I know not what you mean by advocacy as opposed to lecturing | Jun 08 20:25 |
| ThistleWeb | that's what I said | Jun 08 20:25 |
| cubezzz | I've only talked to FSF folks a few times | Jun 08 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Practically the same in many cases | Jun 08 20:25 |
| cubezzz | mostly about Coreboot | Jun 08 20:25 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: they judge companies | Jun 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Like Nintendo | Jun 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | They don't judge people | Jun 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Some of their followers do | Jun 08 20:26 |
| ThistleWeb | as well as their customers who willingly choose to buy products or services from those companies | Jun 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | And the FSF might judge collectively, but it's careful for all I can tell not to generalise | Jun 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | It berates Apple, not Apple fans | Jun 08 20:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] The luxury lifestyle of the "hard-up" file-sharing lawyer - http://tinyurl.com/3dm3ax3 !acslaw !tpb !filesharing | Jun 08 20:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The luxury lifestyle of the "hard-up" file-sharing lawyer | News | PC Pro .::. Size~: 75.24 KB | Jun 08 20:26 |
| schestowitz | If people associate themselves with brands ("I'm 'part' of Apple coz I bought a macbook"), then they deserve to be insulted when the FSF takes on Apple | Jun 08 20:27 |
| ThistleWeb | I applaud the "everything should become open" goals of the FSF, their campaigns and tactics are enough to distance myself from them however | Jun 08 20:27 |
| schestowitz | That's not their goal | Jun 08 20:27 |
| schestowitz | THey don't even say "open" | Jun 08 20:27 |
| ThistleWeb | it was a catchall | Jun 08 20:27 |
| schestowitz | THey encourage sharing | Jun 08 20:27 |
| schestowitz | And ethical software/info | Jun 08 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Like the FFII does with info and ideas | Jun 08 20:28 |
| ThistleWeb | I know the FSF ideology | Jun 08 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Some groups do that for schools | Jun 08 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Like Jamie Love | Jun 08 20:28 |
| schestowitz | And KEI or somethimn | Jun 08 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Knowledge Something.. | Jun 08 20:28 |
| schestowitz | EFF, UCLA and others are also going along those lines... | Jun 08 20:28 |
| ThistleWeb | hassling regular stadd over the actions of the CEO of the company is petty, and stoopid | Jun 08 20:28 |
| ThistleWeb | staff* | Jun 08 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | It's not | Jun 08 20:29 |
| ThistleWeb | lecturing customers over the same, getting in their faces, likewise | Jun 08 20:29 |
| schestowitz | You refer to the genius bar thing | Jun 08 20:29 |
| schestowitz | They got flak for it | Jun 08 20:29 |
| ThistleWeb | all it does is say "whatever he's smoking, I don't want any part of" | Jun 08 20:29 |
| ThistleWeb | yes and rightly so | Jun 08 20:29 |
| ThistleWeb | it was one of several stoopid stunts they thought was a good idea | Jun 08 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | I've said before the economic model of proprietary software development can only scale as far as the number of people you can afford to hire to write your software. Open source software is limited by how many people think it's useful to them or their business and contribute. Windows development is past the point where it can scale much, and instead you're starting to see a string of Windows releases that are all basically | Jun 08 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | the same thing. | Jun 08 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | The last major release of Windows NT was version 5 (Windows 2000) | Jun 08 20:30 |
| ThistleWeb | some core decision makers in the FSF think this type of "advocacy" is a good thing for their cause | Jun 08 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | layering crap on top of Windows 2000 describes what Microsoft's Windows strategy has been for the last 10 years | Jun 08 20:31 |
| ThistleWeb | if not, whoever suggested stunts like that, it'd never be accepted as a plan to actually plan and carry out | Jun 08 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Fair enough | Jun 08 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's more of an attempt to make it look like things are changing than actually changing things | Jun 08 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Notice I never defended this campaign of theirs | Jun 08 20:32 |
| schestowitz | They did consult me on WIndows 7 Sins | Jun 08 20:32 |
| ThistleWeb | not that campaign no | Jun 08 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | I think Active Desktop 2.0 is kind of funny though (Windows 8) | Jun 08 20:32 |
| schestowitz | I think they kept it polite | Jun 08 20:32 |
| schestowitz | And no-one was hurt by it | Jun 08 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @nj3ma There's no i in "team." Or "orgasm." Or "sex." Or "beer." Or "sports." Or "porn." The letter i is kind of a buzzkill. Fuck the ... | Jun 08 20:33 | |
| cubezzz | linutop is worth a look | Jun 08 20:33 |
| zoobab_ | http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/events/cf/daa11/item-display.cfm?id=5984 | Jun 08 20:33 |
| zoobab_ | look at the comments | Jun 08 20:33 |
| ThistleWeb | the annoying thing about these lecturing stunts is that it splits people, I have the same goals as the FSF and GNU for that matter, but due to their approaches, I don't want associated with either | Jun 08 20:33 |
| zoobab_ | B. DORN (Interopera, Austria), 08/06/2011 15:35 | Jun 08 20:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 03. Interoperability and standards: making it happen - First Digital Agenda Assembly .::. Size~: 25.02 KB | Jun 08 20:33 |
| zoobab_ | If I am not mistaken Oracle is an American company and Mingorance a lobbyist of an American rightsholder organisation. I can't see how views from American lobbyists are relevant for a European Digital Agenda, other than that we have to break free from our US lock-ins in the digital markets. In other words, let's do what hurts them most. Small companies from Europe, companies which actually pay their taxes in Europe, are excluded here. What had the Commiss | Jun 08 20:33 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: what board are they on now? | Jun 08 20:34 |
| zoobab_ | tried to tweet the URL in ur1.ca, does not work | Jun 08 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | "It should all be about the web, that's why the underlying OS is 20 GB and needs a fast 3d card and a multicore CPU and......." | Jun 08 20:34 |
| schestowitz | zoobab_: I will do so | Jun 08 20:34 |
| schestowitz | thanks, will ping you | Jun 08 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | One of two things can happen with Windows 8 on tablets. 1. The price of tablets triples between the cost of the hardware needed to lug around Windows and the Windows license, or it fails because people would rather buy the $100 model with Linux | Jun 08 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | you already see ipads costing $700 that can't even play Flash or run the user's choice of software | Jun 08 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | (apple makes all the software choices on hypedevices) | Jun 08 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | do people really want that? | Jun 08 20:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh When exercising his #sysadmin function, @bkuhn was fearsome and intimidating. Not his fault; all sysadmins are like that | Jun 08 20:36 | |
| cubezzz | schestowitz. umm linutop has AMD LX AMD CS5536 | Jun 08 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | ipad is still a niche, and the reason it exists at all is because Apple runs expensive marketing campaigns | Jun 08 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft has managed to fail every time it steps out of x86 PC desktops and x86 PC laptops | Jun 08 20:38 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: (animated) http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0erhcZFAA1qbv9qao1_250.gif | Jun 08 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | Jun 08 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, LOL | Jun 08 20:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Inconstant Moon serialization # 12 "the weekend" posted http://ur1.ca/4dczs !selfPub | Jun 08 20:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "If I am not mistaken Oracle is an American company and Mingorance a lobbyist of an American rightsholder organisation." http://is.gd/KBEmlM | Jun 08 20:40 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Do they have any Kentucky Fried Chicken locations in Hungaristan? | Jun 08 20:40 |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC: yes | Jun 08 20:40 |
| cubezzz | lol | Jun 08 20:40 |
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| DaemonFC | nice | Jun 08 20:40 |
| ThistleWeb | it will be interesting to see if Microsoft try to double the price of Windows 8, because it has a dual function of a touch / smartphone UI and a regular one | Jun 08 20:40 |
| MinceR | i think they're desperate enough to foist it on users as it is :> | Jun 08 20:40 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 08 20:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I can't see how views from American lobbyists are relevant" http://is.gd/KBEmlM #eu #lobbying | Jun 08 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Facts, not what I heard, are what I'm talking about, though. RT @bob_sutor: @RuiSeabra best not to believe everything you hear | Jun 08 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "companies which actually pay their taxes in Europe, are excluded here.What had the Commission in mind?" http://is.gd/KBEmlM Bingo v @zoobab | Jun 08 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana That's probably why I suck at sysadmin-ing. | Jun 08 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Expect to see a lot more PCs shipping with #Linux and expect to see a lot more PCs on retail shelves with Linux." http://is.gd/7mdxp9 | Jun 08 20:41 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: what's w/ the KFC and watermellon; racial stereotype with those? | Jun 08 20:41 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Countries that change their name all the time are usually politically unstable | Jun 08 20:41 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: fried chicken and watermelon are racial stereotypes | Jun 08 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | How so? | Jun 08 20:42 |
| schestowitz | For black people? | Jun 08 20:42 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: i hope hungaristan is politically unstable, because the current situation being stable is worse | Jun 08 20:42 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: yes | Jun 08 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Didn't know.. | Jun 08 20:42 |
| cubezzz | look at 1930's era cartoons for clarification :) | Jun 08 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Kensas? | Jun 08 20:42 |
| cubezzz | it's not seen much nowadays | Jun 08 20:43 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuTjQLfU6Gk | Jun 08 20:43 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, What about Orange Drink? | Jun 08 20:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ko2VXpW7_g&feature=player_embedded#at=39 | Jun 08 20:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - lucille bogan - shave 'em dry (1935) .::. Size~: 112.88 KB | Jun 08 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 08 20:43 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: unsure | Jun 08 20:43 |
| schestowitz | I didn't even know the Uncle Tom thing... | Jun 08 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | "Uncle Tom is a derogatory term for a person of a low status group who is overly sub-serviant with authority, or a black person who behaves in a subservient manner to white people.[1][2]" | Jun 08 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, There's this thing called Wikipedia | Jun 08 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | you need to read it more | Jun 08 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | a person who is oppressed by the system, yet goes out of their way to suck up to it | Jun 08 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | hmmmm | Jun 08 20:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] To quote Dr. Rodney McKay: "Medicine is about as much a science as.... uhm.... voodoo." | Jun 08 20:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Florian! | Jun 08 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | no, he doesn't count | Jun 08 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | he's paid well | Jun 08 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | unless you count him as oppressed by the nonfree software he uses | Jun 08 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | then he may fit | Jun 08 20:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 193 dents! | Jun 08 20:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Russia defies growing consensus with declaration of 'total war on #drugs' - http://bit.ly/mF4P0g because that's working so well in #Mexico | Jun 08 20:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Totally +1 ♺ @maloki: @expatpaul yes but it's not the patients fault if the doctor prescribes them stuff they don't need. | Jun 08 20:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Russia defies growing consensus with declaration of 'total war on drugs' | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 91.81 KB | Jun 08 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | actually, the government uses people like this all the time | Jun 08 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | they make minimum wage, get no health insurance, pay lots of taxes and are still patriotic | Jun 08 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | people like this are usually not so bright (obviously) | Jun 08 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | but there's a lot of them | Jun 08 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | and they reproduce | Jun 08 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | they way out from under the boot is to reproduce and get paid for it by the government, but that's just where the government wants them to go | Jun 08 20:49 |
| ender_33 | 12:15 <@schestowitz> E.g. calling people "communists" when they are not because you don't agree with them | Jun 08 20:49 |
| ender_33 | that is not why I used to call them communists | Jun 08 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | I'm a surrealist "You have two giraffes, the government requires you to take harmonica lessons" | Jun 08 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 08 20:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Doctors are awesome. Like the guy who wanted to cut my mother open because he couldn't open a file on a fucking CD. That's science for ya! | Jun 08 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I'm fucking annoyed at this fucking school who can't tell their arse from their face. Gotta go there *again* tomorrow. Idiots. | Jun 08 20:51 | |
| DaemonFC | what else was there? I remember Cambodian Communism | Jun 08 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | "You have two cows, the government takes both and shoots you" | Jun 08 20:52 |
| ender_33 | 12:26 < ThistleWeb> I see it in the same light as some religious fanatic in the | Jun 08 20:52 |
| ender_33 | street trying to "save me" by spewing quotes from their | Jun 08 20:53 |
| ender_33 | holy book, trying to engage me in something I don't care | Jun 08 20:53 |
| ender_33 | about, they get told to fuck off too | Jun 08 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | Russian Communism, "You have two cows, the government takes them, forces you to milk them, and then gives you as much milk as they think you need" | Jun 08 20:53 |
| ender_33 | :) | Jun 08 20:53 |
| ender_33 | 12:27 <@schestowitz> If someone in the streets waved a bible and spoke about the ills we do to Chinese youths, I'd listen | Jun 08 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | Democracy was "You have two cows, you milk them and the neighbors vote on who gets the milk" | Jun 08 20:53 |
| ender_33 | now your blaming others for the communist chinese government? | Jun 08 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | and Representative Democracy is where you vote for the guy who decides who gets the milk | Jun 08 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.sjgames.com/illuminati/politics.html | Jun 08 20:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] At least @th3k4ty made me this great rum cocktail as a surprise. I love this woman! | Jun 08 20:55 | |
| ender_33 | 12:31 <@cubezzz> I just what a choice: BLANK computer | Jun 08 20:55 |
| ender_33 | are you purposely ignoring the fact that you CAN get a BLANK computer? www.canadacomputers.com | Jun 08 20:55 |
| schestowitz | [20:44] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, There's this thing called Wikipedia | Jun 08 20:56 |
| schestowitz | I know | Jun 08 20:56 |
| schestowitz | I was referring to 2 years ago | Jun 08 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows. | Jun 08 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Jason from The Source was here | Jun 08 20:56 |
| schestowitz | NoNo Mono | Jun 08 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | The United States | Jun 08 20:56 |
| schestowitz | And I was referring to Nader's remark about Obama | Jun 08 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Not knowing what Uncle Tom actually refer to | Jun 08 20:56 |
| schestowitz | It's probably more like an American culture book | Jun 08 20:56 |
| ender_33 | 12:33 <@schestowitz> See how black people and feminisms brought change in numbers | Jun 08 20:56 |
| ender_33 | feminists also had financial support from rockefeller, it wasnt grass roots | Jun 08 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | which would explain why Ralph Nader had no idea what it meant | Jun 08 20:57 |
| schestowitz | [20:53] <ender_33> now your blaming others for the communist chinese government? | Jun 08 20:57 |
| schestowitz | It's the busiesses | Jun 08 20:57 |
| schestowitz | They use communism to improve the rich class' capitalism | Jun 08 20:57 |
| schestowitz | COmmunism as excuse to overwork people | Jun 08 20:58 |
| ender_33 | 12:35 <@schestowitz> Like Nintendo | Jun 08 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Capitalism for the top Chinese billlionaires, communism for the rest | Jun 08 20:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Zenix #GNU #Linux - Fun, Fast, Different http://is.gd/R51Kfa "Zenix is currently on Distrowatch.com's waiting list..." | Jun 08 20:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @maloki | Jun 08 20:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Floor? | Jun 08 20:58 | |
| ender_33 | The nintendo stunt made me hate them, before I just didnt care | Jun 08 20:58 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Doesn't stop them from selling organs to get Crapple stuff that will be obsolete next year | Jun 08 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | why do you figure that is? | Jun 08 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Today I sae a TV ad for iPad 2 | Jun 08 20:59 |
| schestowitz | It co-opted children | Jun 08 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Sentmental blackmail | Jun 08 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Jun 08 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Miguel de Icaza did something similar | Jun 08 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I've been looking for a tablet actually | Jun 08 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Something about is kid | Jun 08 20:59 |
| MinceR | interesting | Jun 08 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | but the only one with Android 3 is $550 | Jun 08 21:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you can make one | Jun 08 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | not worth an organ | Jun 08 21:00 |
| MinceR | ender_33's way of "just not caring" about a group is calling them communists | Jun 08 21:00 |
| schestowitz | drop jabba under a bus... eww... I;',m cfruel | Jun 08 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | I'll wait until more Android 3 models are around at better prices | Jun 08 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Don't buy samsung | Jun 08 21:00 |
| schestowitz | tab.. | Jun 08 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft tax | Jun 08 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Motorola might be OK | Jun 08 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | you can get a crappy one with a small screen and Android 2 for $100 | Jun 08 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Give them money to fight the Vole in court | Jun 08 21:01 |
| schestowitz | Againsy Linux extortion | Jun 08 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I bought a Samsung monitor recently | Jun 08 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | It replaced an Westinghouse | Jun 08 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jun 08 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | I can't help what goes on sale at a reasonable price :) | Jun 08 21:01 |
| cubezzz | AMD is supporting coreboot for future releases | Jun 08 21:02 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't think I want to know what kind of hardware it will take to run Vista8 and antivirus software on a tablet | Jun 08 21:02 |
| cubezzz | http://blogs.amd.com/work/2011/05/05/an-update-on-coreboot | Jun 08 21:03 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/systems | Jun 08 21:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !fedora celebrates IPv6 Test Day tomorrow (World IPv6 Day) http://is.gd/IMDAmI | Jun 08 21:03 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: nice one | Jun 08 21:04 |
| cubezzz | if you want a cheap board to get started Asus M2V-MX SE | Jun 08 21:05 |
| *schestowitz buys AMD | Jun 08 21:06 | |
| cubezzz | you can get coreboot for some older Intel boards | Jun 08 21:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good night, @expatpaul | Jun 08 21:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @openattitude The Electronic Frontier Foundation on Apple's new #iCloud services. | Deeplinks Blog http://ur1.ca/4dd4t | Jun 08 21:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Partly Cloudy Skies: Apple’s Cloud Services Are Promising, But We Still Want A Freedom of Choice Button | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 21.91 KB | Jun 08 21:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How Google Almost Unintentionally Wrecked Our Apple Keynote Coverage (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/jNLGyv | Jun 08 21:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | Firefox renders the entire page upside down and backwards now | Jun 08 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | when I try to use OpenGL | Jun 08 21:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] W3C finalizes CSS 2.1 (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/m2aCMX | Jun 08 21:11 | |
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| zoobab_ | @schestowitz Asus M2V-MX SE | Jun 08 21:12 |
| zoobab_ | @schestowitz with coreboot preinstalled? | Jun 08 21:12 |
| cubezzz | zoobab_, you would have to put coreboot on it | Jun 08 21:13 |
| cubezzz | but it's well tested | Jun 08 21:13 |
| cubezzz | http://www.coreboot.org/ASUS_M2V-MX_SE_Build_Tutorial | Jun 08 21:16 |
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| cubezzz | ummm | Jun 08 21:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] ACS:LAWs Andrew Crossley declared BANKRUPT: http://is.gd/FdrpC8 #bankruptcy #lawyersinhell | Jun 08 21:16 | |
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| cubezzz | http://coreboot.org/ASUS_M2V-MX_SE | Jun 08 21:17 |
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| cubezzz | there's a prebuild SeaBIOS image | Jun 08 21:18 |
| zoobab_ | do you have one. | Jun 08 21:19 |
| zoobab_ | ? | Jun 08 21:19 |
| cubezzz | zoobab_, I use Gigabyte GA-6BXC system I built myself | Jun 08 21:20 |
| cubezzz | ASUS M2V is better | Jun 08 21:20 |
| cubezzz | looking for a board still | Jun 08 21:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @wayneborean: ACS:LAWs Andrew Crossley declared BANKRUPT: http://is.gd/FdrpC8 #bankruptcy #lawyersinhell - he'll be back with a new firm | Jun 08 21:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sabayon #XFCE : the story continues http://is.gd/DjxANM #gnu #linux | Jun 08 21:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @wayneborean: hey, if we say it often enough, it'll come true, no? | Jun 08 21:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Obsidian drives Red Hat growth in emerging markets http://is.gd/Yh75Ev #RedHat in SA... and Italy too: http://is.gd/66AB2w | Jun 08 21:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Hot competition in #linux20th T-shirt design contest! "PictoPengo" "Forward" "Linux. Everywhere" early frontrunners. http://bit.ly/kqMYWi | Jun 08 21:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] LinuxBSDos.com reviews LXDE and Xfce on Fedora 15: http://2tu.us/3d1h http://2tu.us/3d1i | Jun 08 21:35 | |
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| schestowitz | Holy crao. watch this guy... http://tinyogg.com/watch/bh7jg/ | Jun 08 21:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Encrypt Your Private !Dropbox Data With EncFS ~ @WebUpd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog http://ping.fm/dFYiv | Jun 08 21:45 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/btBzj.png | Jun 08 21:45 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US universities in Africa 'land grab' http://drpl.it/ZxE | Jun 08 21:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US universities in Africa 'land grab' | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 92.86 KB | Jun 08 21:50 |
| ender_33 | 13:09 <@MinceR> ender_33's way of "just not caring" about a group is calling them communists | Jun 08 21:51 |
| ender_33 | haha | Jun 08 21:51 |
| ender_33 | they're pawns now | Jun 08 21:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Techdirt: Apple Threatens Wireless Industry Group For Daring To List Out Other App Stores http://ping.fm/mqawJ | Jun 08 21:53 | |
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| ender_33 | Mincer -you're way of disagreeing with people is to put words in their mouth or call them a fascist | Jun 08 21:54 |
| ender_33 | Mincer -you're way of disagreeing with peoples choices are by saying they 'randomly crash' | Jun 08 21:54 |
| MinceR | rephrasing something or making the logical conclusion of a small set of sentences is not "putting words in someone's mouth" | Jun 08 21:55 |
| MinceR | also, how dare i make different choices than other people, especially you | Jun 08 21:55 |
| ender_33 | well I don't just call everyone a communist | Jun 08 21:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] New blog entry: Burnout Prevention Tutorial Session Tomorrow - http://is.gd/29YZcV #burnout #ubuntu #lernid | Jun 08 21:56 | |
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| MinceR | who didn't you call a communist yet? | Jun 08 21:57 |
| ender_33 | they have to meet several of those traits | Jun 08 21:57 |
| MinceR | also, are you trying to claim that you haven't called the FSF communists? | Jun 08 21:57 |
| MinceR | is that the way the wind is blowing today? | Jun 08 21:57 |
| ender_33 | they've met the definition of it | Jun 08 21:57 |
| ender_33 | though it is wrong to paint them ALL with the same brush | Jun 08 21:58 |
| gnufreex_ | I hate enderists. They are so enderistic | Jun 08 21:58 |
| ender_33 | I should have said " | Jun 08 21:58 |
| ender_33 | "FSF Extremists" | Jun 08 21:58 |
| MinceR | ender_33 is so fond of calling people communists that he even called his own past version a communist | Jun 08 21:59 |
| MinceR | that completes the circle, he makes the word meaningless :> | Jun 08 21:59 |
| gnufreex_ | Yeah, Ender1983 was a communist. | Jun 08 21:59 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 08 21:59 |
| MinceR | Ender1984 is watching YOU! | Jun 08 22:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple Threatens Wireless Industry Group For Daring To List Out Other App Stores http://drpl.it/ZxD | Jun 08 22:00 | |
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| ender_33 | well I was borderline when I got out of highschool | Jun 08 22:00 |
| ender_33 | I was so programmed with socialist ideology I played with the idea of voting for a communist | Jun 08 22:01 |
| ender_33 | I voted liberal to keep steven harper out of power | Jun 08 22:01 |
| gnufreex_ | enderist - one that makes no sense and only talks in newspeak. | Jun 08 22:01 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 08 22:02 |
| ender_33 | Of course I don't make sense | Jun 08 22:03 |
| ender_33 | to you | Jun 08 22:03 |
| MinceR | of course, we're communists on the scale of communist to communist | Jun 08 22:03 |
| MinceR | poor us | Jun 08 22:03 |
| MinceR | f(x) := communist | Jun 08 22:03 |
| ender_33 | it doesnt end in communism | Jun 08 22:04 |
| ender_33 | communists have a boss too | Jun 08 22:04 |
| ender_33 | the illuminati | Jun 08 22:04 |
| gnufreex_ | ok, now I'll stop making jokes, and I wan't ender_33 to slowly explain his political program to me. I promis I will listen. | Jun 08 22:04 |
| ender_33 | gnufreex_ do I really want to explain over a year of research to you over IRC? | Jun 08 22:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Say Goodbye to !Google Search Portals for Linux, Mac and More - PCWorld http://ping.fm/DkHke | Jun 08 22:05 | |
| ender_33 | I suggest you read 'Under the sign of scorpio' by Juri Lina | Jun 08 22:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Say Goodbye to Google Search Portals for Linux, Mac and More | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 74.84 KB | Jun 08 22:05 |
| MinceR | lol, he calls it "research" | Jun 08 22:05 |
| gnufreex_ | ender_33: Well, you are constantly preeching it and calliing people communist... so I figure you want people to hear you. | Jun 08 22:05 |
| ender_33 | thats just one book | Jun 08 22:05 |
| ender_33 | check out 'The Soviet Story' | Jun 08 22:05 |
| ender_33 | look into the history of the illuminati | Jun 08 22:05 |
| ender_33 | look into Adam Weishaupt and Mayer Amschel Rothschild | Jun 08 22:06 |
| ender_33 | look into the Knights Templar | Jun 08 22:06 |
| ender_33 | Freemasonry | Jun 08 22:06 |
| ender_33 | Zoroastrianism, Sumaria | Jun 08 22:06 |
| MinceR | if i read it, will i be convinced that i'm a communist? | Jun 08 22:06 |
| ender_33 | Nimrod | Jun 08 22:06 |
| MinceR | or did you "research" that from somewhere else? | Jun 08 22:06 |
| gnufreex_ | So, you think Zoroastrians rule the world? | Jun 08 22:07 |
| ender_33 | Zoroastrianism is the source of content for most of the religions | Jun 08 22:07 |
| MinceR | _the_ ? | Jun 08 22:07 |
| ender_33 | look into neanderthallers as well | Jun 08 22:08 |
| gnufreex_ | Some claim it was Jews that run the world.. other Zoroasatrians. | Jun 08 22:08 |
| ender_33 | people ran the world before the Jews existed | Jun 08 22:08 |
| gnufreex_ | Tho two have togeter one thing: They are opresed by muslims | Jun 08 22:08 |
| MinceR | who are the muslims' bosses then? | Jun 08 22:08 |
| ender_33 | the jewish religion copies zoroastrianism | Jun 08 22:08 |
| ender_33 | look into Sumer | Jun 08 22:09 |
| gnufreex_ | ender_33: Every religion copies another in some way. | Jun 08 22:09 |
| ender_33 | gnufreex_ zoroastrianism is the oldest one with all the themes | Jun 08 22:09 |
| gnufreex_ | zoroastrianism was religion of old persia ender_33 | Jun 08 22:09 |
| gnufreex_ | So it figures that it old | Jun 08 22:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Paul Sawers • Tariq Krim from Jolicloud tells us why innovation is being stifled in France http://ping.fm/x7VIw | Jun 08 22:10 | |
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| enthymeme | ender_33: is that evaluation not prejudiced against civilizaitons without developed writing systems? | Jun 08 22:10 |
| gnufreex_ | Greek mithology is also old | Jun 08 22:10 |
| MinceR | many religions copy many other religions | Jun 08 22:10 |
| ender_33 | not older | Jun 08 22:10 |
| ender_33 | it seems like that | Jun 08 22:10 |
| ender_33 | the source is zoroastrianism | Jun 08 22:10 |
| gnufreex_ | So, what about zoroastrianism? | Jun 08 22:11 |
| ender_33 | !google zoroastrianism | Jun 08 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Zoroastrianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism | Jun 08 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Zoroastrianism | http://www.religioustolerance.org/zoroastr.htm | Jun 08 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Zoroastrianism - ReligionFacts | http://www.religionfacts.com/zoroastrianism/index.htm | Jun 08 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - AVESTA -- Zoroastrian Archives | http://www.avesta.org/ | Jun 08 22:11 |
| MinceR | gnufreex_: herp derp communism! | Jun 08 22:11 |
| ender_33 | do some fucking work | Jun 08 22:11 |
| gnufreex_ | I know what it is ender_33 | Jun 08 22:11 |
| ender_33 | stop saying I make no sense when you guys are too inept to fucking read | Jun 08 22:11 |
| gnufreex_ | I just want to hear what you make of it | Jun 08 22:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Dubious Record Label Insists It Has A 'Patent-Pending' Method To Guarantee A Platinum Selling Album http://goo.gl/XRJDv #5iveSe7en | Jun 08 22:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dubious Record Label Insists It Has A 'Patent-Pending' Method To Guarantee A Platinum Selling Album | Techdirt .::. Size~: 74.89 KB | Jun 08 22:13 |
| ender_33 | perhaps I'll blog about it so I can stop repeating myself | Jun 08 22:13 |
| ender_33 | !google site:techrights.org zoroastrianism | Jun 08 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Conference - Society for Information Technology & Teacher Education | http://site.aace.org/conf/ | Jun 08 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Google Sites - Free websites and wikis | http://sites.google.com/ | Jun 08 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Site - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site | Jun 08 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Site > Motivational Experiences | Business Results | http://www.siteglobal.com/ | Jun 08 22:13 |
| gnufreex_ | ender_33: I probably know more about zoroastrianism than you, but I don't see what is your idea with it. | Jun 08 22:13 |
| ender_33 | zoroastrian freemasonry | Jun 08 22:14 |
| ender_33 | !google zoroastrian freemasonry | Jun 08 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry - Z | http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/mackeys_encyclopedia/z.htm | Jun 08 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Mozart & Orientalism > Ibn Warraq | http://www.newenglishreview.org/Ibn_Warraq/Mozart_%2526_Orientalism/ | Jun 08 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - FREEMASONRY TODAY - Spring 2005 - Issue 32 | http://www.freemasonrytoday.com/32/p13.php | Jun 08 22:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - FREEMASONRY TODAY - Spring 2007 - Issue 40 | http://www.freemasonrytoday.com/40/p10.php | Jun 08 22:14 |
| ender_33 | #1 should be good | Jun 08 22:14 |
| ender_33 | ZOROASTER | Jun 08 22:15 |
| ender_33 | You'll notice 'Media' :) | Jun 08 22:18 |
| ender_33 | 14:23 < gnufreex_> ender_33: I probably know more about zoroastrianism than you, but I don't see what is your idea with it. | Jun 08 22:18 |
| ender_33 | as long as you keep insulting me | Jun 08 22:18 |
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| gnufreex_ | ender_33: The fascination that people have with Zoroastrians and Jews is that they make secret societies to allegedly "control the world". But that is not what they are doing. They are making secret societies to defend themselves and stay alive, because Muslims are out to kill them. Iran is hell bent on exterminating Zoroastrians (iran holds acient persia) and destroying it's history. And Iran and Arabs are also hell bent on | Jun 08 22:19 |
| gnufreex_ | destroying Israel, exterminating jews, and then destroying western civilization. So no, they don't try to control the world, they try to continue existing. ender_33 | Jun 08 22:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RD @LitChat: Be sure to come back on Friday when @EllenMeister joins us as guest host of #litchat. | Jun 08 22:20 | |
| ender_33 | you're blaming muslims? | Jun 08 22:20 |
| MinceR | secret societies are not always so benign | Jun 08 22:20 |
| ender_33 | thats very narrow minded | Jun 08 22:20 |
| gnufreex_ | ender_33: You might want to read the quran, it clearly stated that all "infidels" must be exterminated. | Jun 08 22:21 |
| gnufreex_ | "Infidels" == non muslims | Jun 08 22:21 |
| ender_33 | freemasonry predates the so called 'islamic threat' | Jun 08 22:21 |
| gnufreex_ | 'islamic threat' is 1400 years old ender_33 | Jun 08 22:22 |
| ender_33 | zomg, 1400 years | Jun 08 22:22 |
| ender_33 | there was genetic engineering going on before the last ice age | Jun 08 22:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] http://buytaert.net/the-gartner-hype-cycle-and-drupal !Drupal | Jun 08 22:23 | |
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| gnufreex_ | ender_33: That is non-confirmed history, I don't work with that | Jun 08 22:23 |
| ender_33 | that's fine | Jun 08 22:23 |
| ender_33 | grow your hair longer to fix that intuition problem you have | Jun 08 22:24 |
| ender_33 | you'll get a better connection with your genetic memory in the spine | Jun 08 22:25 |
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| gnufreex_ | ender_33: So you want me to beleive genetic engineering is older than the wheel? Who did it, aliens? | Jun 08 22:26 |
| GoForbes28 | hello | Jun 08 22:26 |
| _Goblin | I would like to believe it was the Vorlons......probably the best alien race on TV | Jun 08 22:26 |
| GoForbes28 | gnufreex_ They also invented the stargate | Jun 08 22:27 |
| _Goblin | who the vorlons? | Jun 08 22:27 |
| _Goblin | Nah..... | Jun 08 22:27 |
| _Goblin | they developed third space..... | Jun 08 22:27 |
| _Goblin | sort of hyper-hyper space | Jun 08 22:27 |
| GoForbes28 | nah, I meant the theorectical aliens | Jun 08 22:27 |
| _Goblin | ah | Jun 08 22:27 |
| ThistleWeb | not theatrical aliens | Jun 08 22:28 |
| _Goblin | hey! | Jun 08 22:28 |
| _Goblin | Vorlons had encounter suits....they rocked | Jun 08 22:28 |
| ThistleWeb | aka aliens who wanna tred the boards, like the one from American Dad | Jun 08 22:28 |
| ender_33 | 14:35 < gnufreex_> ender_33: So you want me to beleive genetic engineering is older than the wheel? Who did it, aliens? | Jun 08 22:28 |
| GoForbes28 | thistleweb: hi BTW | Jun 08 22:28 |
| ThistleWeb | o/ | Jun 08 22:28 |
| _Goblin | the Vorlons also had cool shoulder pads.......put the Dynasty cast to shame | Jun 08 22:28 |
| ThistleWeb | lol, yeah | Jun 08 22:28 |
| ThistleWeb | that show was excellent | Jun 08 22:28 |
| ender_33 | neanderthallers who exploited quantum mechanics with their saavant brains, linked to-get-her with quantum entanglement | Jun 08 22:28 |
| ender_33 | forming a super computer | Jun 08 22:29 |
| gnufreex_ | Are you serious? | Jun 08 22:29 |
| _Goblin | what episode of Babylon 5 was that in? | Jun 08 22:29 |
| _Goblin | must have missed that | Jun 08 22:29 |
| ThistleWeb | specially the civil war part, twas like 3 major wars | Jun 08 22:29 |
| ThistleWeb | over 5 series | Jun 08 22:29 |
| _Goblin | maybe that was the Shadows | Jun 08 22:29 |
| ender_33 | 14:38 < gnufreex_> Are you serious? <--- yes but in theory | Jun 08 22:29 |
| _Goblin | not the band I hasten to add | Jun 08 22:29 |
| MinceR | well, the Goa'uld do have genetic memory... | Jun 08 22:30 |
| _Goblin | true | Jun 08 22:30 |
| ThistleWeb | the vorlons left at the end of the shadow ware | Jun 08 22:30 |
| _Goblin | shadow ware? | Jun 08 22:30 |
| ThistleWeb | war* | Jun 08 22:30 |
| _Goblin | lol | Jun 08 22:30 |
| _Goblin | I thought it was a new term for Microsoft products.... | Jun 08 22:30 |
| ender_33 | the super ego you have today is a remote control mechanism and can influence your thoughts | Jun 08 22:30 |
| _Goblin | the software that leaves you in the dark | Jun 08 22:30 |
| ThistleWeb | I loved the civil war stuff against Clark | Jun 08 22:30 |
| _Goblin | who's got a super ego? | Jun 08 22:31 |
| ThistleWeb | then into the telepath war | Jun 08 22:31 |
| _Goblin | yep | Jun 08 22:31 |
| _Goblin | that was the Minbari too | Jun 08 22:31 |
| _Goblin | oh no it wasnt....it was the chaps/chappesses from Mars | Jun 08 22:31 |
| ThistleWeb | I liked how they paid tribute to the actors who died too | Jun 08 22:32 |
| _Goblin | the one let down of Bab 5 was probably "the first ones" I was very unimpressed at their ships | Jun 08 22:32 |
| GoForbes28 | hi schestowitz | Jun 08 22:32 |
| GoForbes28 | who's tessier? | Jun 08 22:32 |
| ThistleWeb | one of the later movies, metion that the doc and shakar couldn't attend and were off exploring the stars | Jun 08 22:33 |
| _Goblin | Thirdspace was a good spin off movie | Jun 08 22:33 |
| _Goblin | (TV) | Jun 08 22:33 |
| ThistleWeb | some were not bad, a couple were awful | Jun 08 22:33 |
| _Goblin | ok....heres the Question | Jun 08 22:33 |
| ender_33 | http://qubitarkhive.com/2011/05/09/understanding-the-owl/ | Jun 08 22:33 |
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| _Goblin | Vorlons v Borg..... | Jun 08 22:34 |
| _Goblin | who would win? | Jun 08 22:34 |
| ThistleWeb | controlling the guns by floating, doing martial arts and punching to fire | Jun 08 22:34 |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: NERD! | Jun 08 22:34 |
| ThistleWeb | rofl, so corny | Jun 08 22:34 |
| _Goblin | I'd say Vorlons..... | Jun 08 22:34 |
| _Goblin | no body to assimilate. | Jun 08 22:34 |
| _Goblin | thats why they had encounter suits | Jun 08 22:34 |
| _Goblin | and yes.... | Jun 08 22:34 |
| _Goblin | I'm a nerd | Jun 08 22:34 |
| _Goblin | and proud | Jun 08 22:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @newbintraining: RT @reality Fuck the iCloud. That is all. | Jun 08 22:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 8/6/2011: #Viewsonic Embraces Linux, #Naev 0.5.0 Released http://is.gd/e9HGP0 !techrights | Jun 08 22:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 8/6/2011: Viewsonic Embraces Linux, Naev 0.5.0 Released http://is.gd/e9HGP0 #techrights | Jun 08 22:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Samsung giving away free phones is all well and good, just a shame that their UI implementation totally sucks balls... | Jun 08 22:35 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 8/6/2011: Viewsonic Embraces Linux, Naev 0.5.0 Released | Techrights .::. Size~: 127.11 KB | Jun 08 22:35 |
| ThistleWeb | I just loved the layering in babylon 5, was a lot deeper than many would expect | Jun 08 22:35 |
| _Goblin | oh and another thing..... | Jun 08 22:35 |
| *_Goblin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Jun 08 22:35 | |
| ThistleWeb | the fact that it was all written before anything was filmed, every ep, right to the end | Jun 08 22:36 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe that's why the spin off series felt flat, it was tagged on to help keep a franchise going, when it naturally finished | Jun 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | [22:32] <GoForbes28> who's tessier? | Jun 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | The site's boss | Jun 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | [22:35] <_Goblin> oh and another thing..... | Jun 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | [22:35] <-- _Goblin has left this server (Quit: Leaving). | Jun 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm... seems like a crash | Jun 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: I would like to hear from you what put you under police flag for racism | Jun 08 22:37 |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: hows the wiki? | Jun 08 22:38 |
| schestowitz | I checked this morning | Jun 08 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Was gonna tell you but you were not here that your blocking seems to have deterred the spammers perhaps | Jun 08 22:39 |
| schestowitz | I think they come from a huge pool of IPs though | Jun 08 22:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I'm tired, I'm pissed off and I have way too much stuff on my plate. Being me really sucks right now. | Jun 08 22:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yes, I have 44 unread mails in my inbox, but you know what: Fuck you all! I can't deal with this shit right now, I need sleep. | Jun 08 22:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Woah! Over 350 #torchallenge relays! Thanks @arvind @Kolossos @bkerensa @punderw @whabib @fanficforensics @superblock & (obvi) @cpqNetworks | Jun 08 22:45 | |
| GoForbes28 | maybe we should add some counter measures | Jun 08 22:45 |
| GoForbes28 | for example, when we delete pictures that are clearly spam, it automatically bans the user who uploaded | Jun 08 22:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, off to bed. I hope Gibbon can provide some relaxation, I'm wired. Oo | Jun 08 22:46 | |
| GoForbes28 | yikes, time for more wiki cleanup :S | Jun 08 22:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan To me, hell is JavaScript full stop | Jun 08 22:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @LaurenBaratzL Tell, Don't Show #newwritingadvice !write | Jun 08 22:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @LaurenBaratzL Save Our Adverbs! or Save -ly! #newwritingadvice !write | Jun 08 22:51 | |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: oh, they're here again :-o | Jun 08 22:52 |
| schestowitz | The horror | Jun 08 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Each time they find different methods... | Jun 08 22:52 |
| schestowitz | All my other wikis (2 of them) are also being spammed heavily | Jun 08 22:52 |
| schestowitz | In one case I had to pay bills to the host for extra bandwidth because the spam weighted at gigabytes | Jun 08 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Then I had to URL-dodge | Jun 08 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Eventually I hecked on the wiki software to really lock pages | Jun 08 22:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Obsidian drives Red Hat growth in emerging markets http://is.gd/Yh75Ev #RedHat in SA... and Italy too: http://is.gd/66AB2w | Jun 08 22:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jun 08 22:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization Provides The Technology Foundation For Italian Dnshosting.it Cloud Offerings - TheStreet .::. Size~: 79.88 KB | Jun 08 22:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz "Expect to see a lot more PCs shipping with #Linux and expect to see a lot more PCs on retail shelves with Linux." http: ... | Jun 08 22:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @marketmentat SWAT Team Sent to Collect Student Loans http://ur1.ca/4ddmc << abuse of power | Jun 08 22:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SWAT Team Sent to Collect Student Loans | The Agitator .::. Size~: 65.39 KB | Jun 08 22:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Is this term "artisan distribution" well known or was it coined on @sabdfl blog? #emwtk | Jun 08 22:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @ricmarques #Apple ;-) RT: @sh4na: Richard Dreyfuss doing a dramatic reading of the Apple EULA is completely and totally HILARIOUS ht ... | Jun 08 23:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] if you try to make a product "something for everyone" it may very well end up being "nothing for me" | Jun 08 23:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ferris beuller's day off and nachos, gotta love days like this... | Jun 08 23:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @reality Fuck the iCloud. That is all. | Jun 08 23:06 | |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: better now | Jun 08 23:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] High Priority Projects update: Two new projects can help free software replace Skype - http://ur1.ca/4ddow !fsf !gnu | Jun 08 23:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] "Whatever miles we put on we'll take off." 'how?' "We'll drive home backwards" | Jun 08 23:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Two new projects can help free software replace Skype — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 30.39 KB | Jun 08 23:10 |
| schestowitz | latex too many floats issue is annoying... | Jun 08 23:12 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: thanks! | Jun 08 23:12 |
| schestowitz | They really hit the site hard... | Jun 08 23:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana Used in the same self-deprecating way it's intended in his usage, it would not be insulting. Context is all. | Jun 08 23:13 | |
| schestowitz | BTW, we record this weekend | Jun 08 23:13 |
| schestowitz | I hope you can join us, don't know times | Jun 08 23:13 |
| schestowitz | http://braz.blogspot.com/2007/09/dealing-with-too-many-unprocessed.html | Jun 08 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: braz: Dealing with ``too many unprocessed floats'' LaTeX errors .::. Size~: 32.81 KB | Jun 08 23:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @fsf High Priority Projects update: Two new projects can help free software replace Skype - http://ur1.ca/4ddow !fsf !gnu | Jun 08 23:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Profitt really seems to have hit the mark, wrt debunking Radcliff's post. Seems quite fishy black duck advertising. | Jun 08 23:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @fsf High Priority Projects update: Two new projects can help free software replace Skype - http://ur1.ca/4ddow | Jun 08 23:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @mattl: RT @fsf High Priority Projects update: Two new projects can help free software replace Skype - http://ur1.ca/4ddow #fsf #gnu | Jun 08 23:15 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www-oss.fnal.gov/~mengel/How_To/node9.html | Jun 08 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What does "too many unprocessed floats" mean? .::. Size~: 2.09 KB | Jun 08 23:15 |
| schestowitz | "The gist is that I've been throwing a goodly number of figures at LaTeX and it has throw a wobbler as it has simply run out of buffer space to deal with them. In the context of what I'm writing, my thesis in this case, I need the figures to hand so I can't simply space them out. The answer is to use either the \clearpage or the \cleardoublepage commands, which neatly sorted the problem." | Jun 08 23:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @fsf High Priority Projects update: Two new projects can help free software replace Skype - http://ur1.ca/4ddow !fsf !gnu | Jun 08 23:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Two new projects can help free software replace Skype — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 30.39 KB | Jun 08 23:16 |
| MinceR | gn | Jun 08 23:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fontana presumed... you mean it's likely much less than people think now? My feeling as well, would explain all this CLA extremism. | Jun 08 23:18 | |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: Can you give me a day at least? | Jun 08 23:22 |
| GoForbes28 | I mean a day if not a specific time? | Jun 08 23:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Three(-way) cheers for the MDN doc sprint http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/06/three-way-cheers-for-the-mdn-doc-sprint/ | Jun 08 23:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Three(-way) cheers for the MDN doc sprint ✩ Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog .::. Size~: 28.45 KB | Jun 08 23:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Add-ons Review Update – Week of 2011/06/08 http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/06/08/add-ons-review-update-32/ | Jun 08 23:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Add-ons Review Update – Week of 2011/06/08 | Mozilla Add-ons Blog .::. Size~: 17.44 KB | Jun 08 23:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Challenge accepted, good sir. Now on the list of things to do before I die: have a scotch with @bkuhn | Jun 08 23:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @cjohanns Here's my recent piece on USAToday about the Dept. of Education SWAT Team Fiasco: http://ur1.ca/4ddt2 | Jun 08 23:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf High Priority Projects update: Two new projects can help free software replace Skype - http://ur1.ca/4ddow !fsf !gnu | Jun 08 23:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Does the Department of Education have a SWAT team? | USA TODAY College .::. Size~: 52.51 KB | Jun 08 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | probably Sat | Jun 08 23:41 |
| schestowitz | o Sun | Jun 08 23:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sweet dreams (of technology that does what you want it to ;) @marjoleink | Jun 08 23:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] IcedTea-Web 1.1 released • by dbhole http://ping.fm/NZS8Q | Jun 08 23:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IcedTea-Web 1.1 released | Deepak’s Blog .::. Size~: 28.23 KB | Jun 08 23:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @aidalgol: Forget the #iPod. Presenting the #iBag http://tinyogg.com/watch/8Ozxw/ | Jun 08 23:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: The iBag - That Mitchell and Webb Look Series 4 Episode 1 Preview - BBC Two .::. Size~: 5.49 KB | Jun 08 23:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Still, the public school system might not be such a mess if people like Brangelina enrolled their kids and work to improve the system | Jun 08 23:58 | |
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| schestowitz | LOL http://www.patcondell.net/ | Jun 08 23:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PAT CONDELL'S GODLESS COMEDY .::. Size~: 13.44 KB | Jun 08 23:59 |
| schestowitz | "Now I don't have to deal with drunks" | Jun 08 23:59 |
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