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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good evening @kevieJun 11 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Beginning of Volkerball is nice.Jun 11 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @windigo Aww this is exactly why i never know with the address of the kind; simply giving gears whilst sleep deprivedJun 11 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psquid @x11r5 Aw man, you _never_ give gears while sleep deprived. I hope it didn't go too badly for you.Jun 11 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stav David Topples Goliath: !Microsoft Loses Supreme Court !Patent Battle - http://pulse.me/s/8eLAJun 11 00:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] The Uber-Fuzzer https://blog.mozilla.com/ladamski/2011/06/the-uber-fuzzer/Jun 11 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Despite Rammstein expending effort in being loud and powerful it does not really hit the spot for me. I expect live is another matter.Jun 11 00:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Time to tone it down a bit "The Very Thought of You" then up the wooden hill.Jun 11 00:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It has gone midnight so my word of the day is "conniption"Jun 11 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm! ♻ @psquid what http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uswvZul1Z2sJun 11 01:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @speeddefrost @laurelrusswurm "Never underestimate the power of @speeddefrost's brilliance." ;DJun 11 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] The bar at #self2011 has a lot of really good music going on. :3Jun 11 01:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Everyone is looking for ke4qqq (dave nalley). Has anyone seen him? #self2011Jun 11 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Nevermind just found him.Jun 11 01:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] talked with one of RH's newer associates at the dinner tonight and ranted about android with him. Twas great, glad I'm not the only hater ;)Jun 11 01:40
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DaemonFCstill haven't crashed Fedora 15Jun 11 01:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] A conversation on the Grand Jury case against WikiLeaks http://t.co/Vp3MVqHJun 11 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] National Aeronautics and Space Administration joined W3C - National Aeronautics and Space Administration joined as a... http://ow.ly/1daD87Jun 11 01:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011-06-10 A Conversation with @WLLegal on Grand Juries, Thomas Drake, the ACLU & #PDF11 | WL Central .::. Size~: 18.34 KBJun 11 01:46
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DaemonFCheh, blingJun 11 02:01
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DaemonFCI've considered using that transparent oxygen mod but it's a pretty nasty hack, hard to install, and ruined the next time you update KDEJun 11 02:09
DaemonFCFirefox 5 is noticeably quickerJun 11 02:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #codemasters also lost hashed passwords; time to move to new authentication. best of all it already exists: key-based. make user responsibleJun 11 03:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Huzzah! http://lwn.net/Articles/447017/ #LVMJun 11 03:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @johnsu01: Bricks are steadily leaving the office destined for Nintendo America HQ. Stretching it out for maximum effect :)Jun 11 04:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @mairin i don't understand. why are photos of people lifting heavy boxes of paper shown next to a release of emails? guys? forget the 'e'?Jun 11 04:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk The price then an the price now.Jun 11 04:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf Are you up to the @eff's Tor Challenge? FSF is is already running a node -- join us! http://ur1.ca/4e6xg !gnu !fsf !cc !lp !tor !effJun 11 05:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Are you up to the Tor challenge? — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 29.07 KBJun 11 05:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Underground moving walkways still *rule*. #hongkong #tsimshatsuiJun 11 05:58
schestowitzhttp://imgur.com/n0tSCJun 11 06:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This would be a nice prank http://i.imgur.com/qw2cX.gif #funnyJun 11 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @rahulsundaram Crappy article -> http://bit.ly/myxaLu Google filtering apps in the market place have nothing to do with it being ope ...Jun 11 06:08
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google banishes open-source Android apps in favor of Sony -- Government Computer News .::. Size~: 74.29 KBJun 11 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why I love #BodhiLinux http://is.gd/028Uev "And unlike some Linux distros, Bodhi can easily be configured into anything you want it to be."Jun 11 06:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why I love Bodhi Linux « Dragonfly Dreaming .::. Size~: 52.42 KBJun 11 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Features Coming For !Fedora 16 http://is.gd/Tg9uKX "...Linux 3.0/3.1 kernel, X.Org Server 1.11, Mesa 7.12-devel, GNOME 3.2, and KDE SC 4.7"Jun 11 06:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Other Features Coming Up For Fedora 16 .::. Size~: 18.19 KBJun 11 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] # LibreOffice : New AND Improved http://is.gd/KXJ2B1 http://is.gd/IBIiDT #TDF #odfJun 11 06:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice: New AND Improved at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 35.93 KBJun 11 06:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Trained Monkey Hacking Experience: LibreOffice Visio Import filter - first steps of a new baby .::. Size~: 27.5 KBJun 11 06:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal), Reviewed In Depth http://is.gd/YMayU1 #tomshardware did not like #unityJun 11 06:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal), Reviewed In Depth : Introduction .::. Size~: 133.65 KBJun 11 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Solving the Mystery of #RedHat http://is.gd/qC7yJ0 "its execution, its products, and its ability to make its business model work." #gnuJun 11 06:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Solving the Mystery of Red Hat - Seeking Alpha .::. Size~: 62.14 KBJun 11 06:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New !Inconstant Moon installment Posted: "15 Monday" http://ur1.ca/4eaupJun 11 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 4 Passes 200 Million Downloads http://is.gd/U0ZQ4x #Mozilla launches #MemShrink effort to improve memory use http://is.gd/73qB5vJun 11 06:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Inconstant Moon – 15 .::. Size~: 16.79 KBJun 11 06:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox 4 Passes 200 Million Downloads | ConceivablyTech .::. Size~: 33.87 KBJun 11 06:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla launches MemShrink effort to improve Firefox memory use - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner .::. Size~: 122.04 KBJun 11 06:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First impressions of !Mageia Linux http://is.gd/LPUgMZ "does what the team set out to do. Namely to build a clean and attractive derivative"Jun 11 06:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: First impressions of mageia linux- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 61.77 KBJun 11 06:23
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/foGdN.gifJun 11 06:24
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schestowitzMinceR: http://i.imgur.com/I3JSE.jpgJun 11 06:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First day this week staying home.. catching up with important news and it's sunny :-) http://i.imgur.com/rROY7.jpgJun 11 06:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Kubuntu Natty Narwhal review - KDElicious! http://is.gd/WNISx4 "Version 11.04 Natty Narwhal is fast, smart, elegant, polished" !kdeJun 11 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Just received my reviewers copy of 'Lawyers in Hell', will be reading it tomorrow, hope to have a review published on Sunday nightJun 11 06:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kubuntu Natty Narwhal review - KDElicious! .::. Size~: 25.29 KBJun 11 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 11 review http://is.gd/DD6fmX "If the trend holds, Linux Mint 12 will be a lot more stable than this release."Jun 11 06:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Peppermint OS Two [new release reviewed] http://is.gd/9TELy9 "Rating: 4.5/5" (also recommended by @openbytes AFAIK)Jun 11 06:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Peppermint OS Two | Desktop Linux Reviews .::. Size~: 110.4 KBJun 11 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Introducing #BackTrack 5 'Revolution' http://is.gd/44izjo "BackTrack5 is a good specialized distribution, a great tool worth keeping around"Jun 11 06:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Experience: Introducing BackTrack 5 'Revolution' .::. Size~: 75.76 KBJun 11 06:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ♻ @bitcoininfo: How come 99% of shops that take Bitcoins are nutjob survivalist small biz? http://ur1.ca/4eavhJun 11 06:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How come 99% of shops that take Bitcoins are nutjob survivalist small biz? .::. Size~: 36.79 KBJun 11 06:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Police nab 3 suspected leaders of hacker network http://is.gd/1bOaGZ Brainwash conglomerate CNN with another go at "/hackers/ are criminals"Jun 11 06:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Police nab 3 suspected leaders of hacker network in Spain - CNN.com .::. Size~: 39.98 KBJun 11 06:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Chrome 12, What's new? http://is.gd/Om5qDV "1- Chrome will support hardware accelerated 3D CSS."Jun 11 07:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trends from the #Eclipse Community Survey 2011 http://is.gd/z06sT5 what developers' preferences are likeJun 11 07:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Trends from the Eclipse Community Survey 2011 «  Ian Skerrett .::. Size~: 43.05 KBJun 11 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EPIC, ACLU, EFF, & Others Urge Homeland Security to Stop Creation of National Identity System http://is.gd/vfx9JD treating people w/ numbersJun 11 07:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EPIC - EPIC, ACLU, EFF, and Others Urge Homeland Security to Stop Creation of National Identity System .::. Size~: 9.89 KBJun 11 07:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Blue Shield of California's Fake Benevolence http://is.gd/6TNE8n "announcement just might be more PR than substance." Growing trend. #spinJun 11 07:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blue Shield of California's Fake Benevolence | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 50.68 KBJun 11 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Worst Case" [cartoon] http://is.gd/m78jeKJun 11 07:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tech Comics: "Worst Case"  - Datamation .::. Size~: 86.67 KBJun 11 07:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] On the 5th Anniversary of the Disputed #Guantánamo “Suicides,” Jeff Kaye Defends Scott Horton http://ur1.ca/4eb7r #tpn #anonJun 11 07:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: On the 5th Anniversary of the Disputed Guantánamo “Suicides,” Jeff Kaye Defends Scott Horton |   Andy Worthington .::. Size~: 106.21 KBJun 11 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 11/6/2011:Peppermint OS Two is Out, Fedora 16 Features Revealed http://is.gd/eLmdEk !techrightsJun 11 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 11/6/2011:Peppermint OS Two is Out, Fedora 16 Features Revealed http://is.gd/eLmdEk #techrightsJun 11 07:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 11/6/2011:Peppermint OS Two is Out, Fedora 16 Features Revealed | Techrights .::. Size~: 99.73 KBJun 11 07:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 11/6/2011:Peppermint OS Two is Out, Fedora 16 Features Revealed | Techrights .::. Size~: 99.73 KBJun 11 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 209 million downloads on 2011-06-11 07:22 UTCJun 11 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @haris @syntax I see that @x11r5 is self-aware nowJun 11 08:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Libraries' Digital Direction - http://bit.ly/iqLqqr "70% would be “completely comfortable” switching to digital sub for all print journals"Jun 11 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Prosecution of #NSA #Whistleblower Collapses http://harpers.org/archive/2011/06/hbc-90008114 #tpn #anon #piracyJun 11 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] whoa, had so much fun playing with !mozilla jetpack that I totally lost track of time, better get to bed..Jun 11 09:08
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Prosecution of NSA Whistleblower Collapses—By Scott Horton (Harper's Magazine) .::. Size~: 17.8 KBJun 11 09:08
schestowitzMaybe I'll resume with links..Jun 11 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Crowdsourcing Challenge: How Sites Are Handling The Sarah Palin E-Mails - http://bit.ly/iYLn7s interesting how everyone's doing itJun 11 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Crowdsourcing Challenge: How Sites Are Handling The Sarah Palin E-Mails                                                     |  paidContent .::. Size~: 40.74 KBJun 11 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] want to understand quantum computing? course you do - http://bit.ly/m4aCFB great introductory video series by Michael NielsenJun 11 09:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quantum computing for the determined | Michael Nielsen .::. Size~: 35.65 KBJun 11 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Wikipedia editors do it for fun: First results of our 2011 editor survey - http://bit.ly/l9gxBx well, of course #fun #motivationJun 11 09:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikimedia blog  » Blog Archive   » Wikipedia editors do it for fun: First results of our 2011 editor survey .::. Size~: 16.23 KBJun 11 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nude Nuns Mass BitTorrent Lawsuit is Terminated - http://bit.ly/kWR3LV well, that's a relief... #copyrightJun 11 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux numero uno http://is.gd/7HaE3v #androidJun 11 09:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nude Nuns Mass BitTorrent Lawsuit is Terminated | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 56.72 KBJun 11 09:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android grows in top U.S. smartphone spot, with iPhone second - Computerworld .::. Size~: 131.56 KBJun 11 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hackers for a good cause http://is.gd/LEGqtp we oughtn't let the word "hacker" be hijacked and co-opted to daemonise software freedomJun 11 09:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hackers for a good cause - San Jose Mercury News .::. Size~: 72.19 KBJun 11 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] SKindle - http://bit.ly/iAxH9R "You can put an #ebook in an ordinary scanner and take the text straight off the screen." the #analogue holeJun 11 09:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oversimplification: SKindle .::. Size~: 37.02 KBJun 11 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Clothing Designer Wins $164M In Lawsuit Against Online #Counterfeiters - http://tcrn.ch/lBKHAS bringing insanity to currently sane marketJun 11 09:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Clothing Designer Tory Burch Wins $164M In Lawsuit Against Online Counterfeiters .::. Size~: 52.8 KBJun 11 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The #unhosted project needs money. I urge you all to give. This is the future. Open. Decentralised. Federated. http://www.unhosted.org/Jun 11 09:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unhosted - Imagine personal data freedom... .::. Size~: 11.54 KBJun 11 09:36
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schestowitz"I am liking mine, too. But my Verizon salesfolks were pretty visibly incredulous when I said that's what I wanted to buy"Jun 11 09:39
schestowitzhttp://mobile.twitter.com/maryjofoley/status/77805092119654400Jun 11 09:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter .::. Size~: 4.89 KBJun 11 09:39
schestowitzMary Jo Microsoft liking Windows? No way!1Jun 11 09:39
schestowitz"Which is fine (imo)... They will help incubation but not the graduated TLP. IMO a "code dump" is when people don't help at all and that is totally unacceptable."Jun 11 09:47
schestowitzhttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3C667427D1-DE48-4FF0-87E5-37A96E4925E5@jaguNET.com%3EJun 11 09:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal .::. Size~: 4.08 KBJun 11 09:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Criteria for adopting Free Software in Public Administrations http://tinyurl.com/5rhh9ro #software #egovt #gnu #linux #microsoft #windowsJun 11 09:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Android grows in top U.S. smartphone spot, with #iPhone second. #RIM slips to third place http://is.gd/7HaE3v #mobile #bb #blackberryJun 11 09:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android grows in top U.S. smartphone spot, with iPhone second - Computerworld .::. Size~: 131.72 KBJun 11 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @pdxdave: @fabsh getting my FREE #PONY EXPRESS! YEE HAW!!!!Jun 11 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gods I'm tired.... XxJun 11 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Doing !LO editing....Jun 11 09:55
schestowitzhttp://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/07/facebook-privacy-settings-facial-recognition-enabled/Jun 11 09:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook changes privacy settings for millions of users – facial recognition is enabled | Naked Security .::. Size~: 58.18 KBJun 11 09:56
schestowitzLOLJun 11 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Free Software Foundation favors LibreOffice over OpenOffice http://is.gd/LJdsFU #lo #tdf #odf #ooo #libreoffice #openoffice #gnu #linuxJun 11 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Judge Reconsiders Allowing US Copyright Group To Shake Down 23,322 People Over Potential Expendables Infringement http://is.gd/aIF6d2 DDOS?Jun 11 10:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Software Foundation favors LibreOffice over OpenOffice | ZDNet .::. Size~: 134.39 KBJun 11 10:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Judge Reconsiders Allowing US Copyright Group To Shake Down 23,322 People Over Potential Expendables Infringement | Techdirt .::. Size~: 64.67 KBJun 11 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Dan gave me the best idea for spinning myself during this !LO: I am Head of Cloud, Sixgun Productions :DJun 11 10:05
schestowitzhttp://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/74a348f6-93ba-11e0-922e-00144feab49a.htmlJun 11 10:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FT.com / Technology - Regulator asked to stop Facebook face recognition .::. Size~: 53.07 KBJun 11 10:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Regulator asked to stop #Facebook face recognition http://is.gd/RaOYIn will #Zuckerberg pay AstroTurfers again to divert attention away?Jun 11 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FT.com / Technology - Regulator asked to stop Facebook face recognition .::. Size~: 53.07 KBJun 11 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Richard Green was unhappy with management decisions such as abandoning the "MeeGo" operating system" http://is.gd/4nUpzS #msft #mole #elopJun 11 10:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UPDATE 3-Fresh blow for Nokia as CTO ducks out | Reuters .::. Size~: 75.06 KBJun 11 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Essex police #fail on #domesticviolence again, six months after apology http://is.gd/544fquJun 11 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Essex police fail on domestic violence again, six months after apology | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 87.92 KBJun 11 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New "ShaperProbe" tool detects ISP traffic shaping http://is.gd/C6lEDy #netneutrality #internetJun 11 10:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !FSF favors !LibreOffice over !OpenOffice - Zdnet http://ping.fm/L7BAAJun 11 10:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The David Miliband and Ed Balls leaks are meant to hurt #Labour. Why now? http://is.gd/ktpWkXJun 11 10:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The David Miliband and Ed Balls leaks are meant to hurt Labour. Why now? | Polly Toynbee | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 242.89 KBJun 11 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Dear Italians, "attitudine" (inclination) != "attitude" (atteggiamento). GB "Decade" (10 years) != ITA "decade" (10 days) #falsefriendsJun 11 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Yes, our children are growing up too soon. But blame #capitalism, not sex http://is.gd/1yb45zJun 11 10:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !RedHat's #Oracle shot: The Unbreakable Database? • Channel Register http://ping.fm/CdpGOJun 11 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #BBC playing politics again, chosing stuff the extortion racket SHOULD cover to create an outcry from the public http://is.gd/KIvzO6Jun 11 10:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Archos 101 hacked to dual boot Debian Linux, Android - Liliputing http://ping.fm/h8yS1Jun 11 11:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] of all the excesses of the #BBC they chose not to cut mainstream entertainment, but cultural niches & news, in blatant public #manipulationJun 11 11:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] still, if it stops 7 #BBC crews all covering the same news story for different programmes around the clock then it's no real lossJun 11 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @TweeGoN900: New TweeGo v0.6.5-1: lots of bug fixes, enjoy! :) #N900 #Maemo #TweeGoJun 11 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Instructions for integrating the AppUp plugin for Qt Creator http://intel.ly/jKNnqj #MeeGo via @bobduffyJun 11 11:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK.... Angry Birds on the Xoom while sitting on the dunny might be the absolute killer feature of this device. :DJun 11 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So #palinmail is only available as printed paper version? Not on DVD? CD? USB Stick? Website? CSV? I mean - really? Is this 2011? #facepalmJun 11 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] More !Wikileaks supporters caught in legal dragnet as US gov issues new subpoenas http://ur1.ca/4ec6a When will YOUR data become "evidence"?Jun 11 11:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hard at work on Linux Outlaws.....Jun 11 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Latop fan working overtime with me compressing all these interviews.....Jun 11 11:30
schestowitzHm... didn't know about http://wpdevel.wordpress.com/Jun 11 11:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Those that fight for privacy and are still on facebook have a problem IMHO ...Jun 11 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Canadian IP Lobbyists Caught Faking Counterfeit Data http://goo.gl/PjSslJun 11 11:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ideas Do Matter, But That Has Nothing To Do With 'Intellectual Property' http://goo.gl/47UOYJun 11 11:40
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schestowitzRed Hat pays IDC? WTH? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/put-on-your-new-red-hat-linux/8945Jun 11 11:43
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schestowitzIDC Lies for Microsoft Money?Jun 11 11:44
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2077845/windows-phone-set-outgrow-android-ios Windows Phone 7 is set to outgrow Android and IOS over the next few yearsJun 11 11:44
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schestowitz"Jun 11 11:45
schestowitzSubject: Another (Microsoft) PAID FOR report by IDCJun 11 11:45
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2077845/windows-phone-set-Jun 11 11:45
schestowitzoutgrow-android-iosJun 11 11:45
schestowitzMicrosoft has yet again spent big bucks in a last ditch effort to rakeJun 11 11:45
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schestowitzin some mobile phone marketshare (if only virtually). This so-calledJun 11 11:45
schestowitzreport by IDC claims that Windows Phone 7 will take 20.3 percent of theJun 11 11:45
schestowitzmarket in 2015, beating iOS yet trailing Android (Linux) by a wideJun 11 11:45
schestowitzmargin.Jun 11 11:45
schestowitzMost of these paid for shills are claiming that M$'s deal with NokiaJun 11 11:45
schestowitzwill help its marketshare, with the midguided belief that every singleJun 11 11:45
schestowitzphone Nokia sells today will one day magically turn into a WP7 sale,Jun 11 11:45
schestowitzwhich is simply proposterous. Nokia's marketshare is dwindling so fastJun 11 11:45
schestowitzthat the Redmondians can hope to gain at best 10% marketshare andJun 11 11:45
schestowitzthere's a real good chance that Nokia won't even make it to 2015, whichJun 11 11:45
schestowitzis an eternity away in mobile-time. If Nokia falters or gets purchasedJun 11 11:45
schestowitzby another vendor, all these numbers will add up to nought.Jun 11 11:45
schestowitzWP7 is already down to 1% marketshare and still falling. Next yearJun 11 11:45
schestowitzthere will be no more Windows Mobile phones in the statistics revealingJun 11 11:45
schestowitzthat the emperor has no clothes. Jun 11 11:45
schestowitz"Jun 11 11:45
schestowitzIDC wiki in techrights shows paymentsJun 11 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How long should we support old Windows versions? | ghacks http://ping.fm/3qJ2VJun 11 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] can the #Chromium devs please add "minimum font size" to the GUI config, it works by modifying the preferences fileJun 11 12:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] inconsistent font sizes across websites kills any browsers chance of being a viable option #Opera is bad for this tooJun 11 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks at 20:1 to win Nobel http://t.co/QVOzWLqJun 11 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to the Pott for the weekend...Jun 11 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @pinheirokde http://www.intel.com/museumofme/ This world is all about the mirrors of one self, this is a geat mirrorJun 11 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @jwildeboer Those that fight for privacy and are still on facebook have a problem IMHO ...Jun 11 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz New "ShaperProbe" tool detects ISP traffic shaping http://is.gd/C6lEDy #netneutrality #internetJun 11 12:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz "Richard Green was unhappy with management decisions such as abandoning the "MeeGo" operating system" http://is.gd/4nUpz ...Jun 11 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Regulator asked to stop #Facebook face recognition http://is.gd/RaOYIn will #Zuckerberg pay AstroTurfers again to divert ...Jun 11 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @jwildeboer The #unhosted project needs money. I urge you all to give. This is the future. Open. Decentralised. Federated. http://www ...Jun 11 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Clothing Designer Wins $164M In Lawsuit Against Online #Counterfeiters - http://tcrn.ch/lBKHAS bringing insanity to curren ...Jun 11 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody SKindle - http://bit.ly/iAxH9R "You can put an #ebook in an ordinary scanner and take the text straight off the screen." t ...Jun 11 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody want to understand quantum computing? course you do - http://bit.ly/m4aCFB great introductory video series by Michael NielsenJun 11 13:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @graziano Are you up to the @eff's Tor Challenge? FSF is is already running a node -- join us! http://ur1.ca/4e6xg !gnu !fsf !cc !lp ...Jun 11 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Links 11/6/2011:Peppermint OS Two is Out, Fedora 16 Features Revealed http://is.gd/eLmdEk !techrightsJun 11 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz EPIC, ACLU, EFF, & Others Urge Homeland Security to Stop Creation of National Identity System http://is.gd/vfx9JD treati ...Jun 11 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz # LibreOffice : New AND Improved http://is.gd/KXJ2B1 http://is.gd/IBIiDT #TDF #odfJun 11 13:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenSUSE Lacks Independence http://is.gd/DsZeWk #suse #gnu #linux #freedom #attachmate #microsoft #novellJun 11 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] OpenSUSE Lacks Independence http://is.gd/DsZeWk #autonomy #community #sourcecode #freesoftwareJun 11 13:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana It's difficult to even imagine all of those ads for network appliances without "Secured by OpenSSL/SSLeay" at the bottom. Oh, wait.Jun 11 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] What Can One Do When #IDC Lies for Microsoft Money? http://is.gd/Eff02V an pseudo-industry that shouldn't really exist http://is.gd/7MjeVlJun 11 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What Can One Do When IDC Lies for #Microsoft Money? http://is.gd/Eff02V an pseudo-industry that shouldn't really exist http://is.gd/7MjeVlJun 11 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Bubulle's weblog 11 06 2011 | Developers per country (June 2011) http://ping.fm/16P4UJun 11 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Arrived in Duisburg...Jun 11 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple Runs Out of Ideas, Harms Developers, and Faces #Antitrust Problems http://is.gd/Knduq6 #appstore #lodsys #swpatsJun 11 14:51
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sebsebsebschestowitz: What do you think about Open Office being relisenced as Apache liscence?Jun 11 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Apple Runs Out of Ideas, Harms Developers, and Faces Antitrust Problems http://is.gd/Knduq6 #iphone #android #imitation #prJun 11 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unconstitutional Patent Reform, SCOTUS Ruling on i4i & University Patent Rights, More Calls to Abolish Software Patents http://is.gd/C8e2cJJun 11 15:16
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schestowitzsebsebseb: I wrote about it ijn Techrights multiple timrsJun 11 15:20
schestowitzWhat do *you* think about it? :-)Jun 11 15:21
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sebsebsebschestowitz: well LibreOffice is the one that respects software freedom much more :)Jun 11 15:25
sebsebseb,butJun 11 15:25
sebsebsebthe Apache version, can than be used toJun 11 15:25
sebsebsebmake loads of alternatives to Microsoft OfficeJun 11 15:25
sebsebseb:DJun 11 15:25
sebsebsebbe they  opensource  or propritary softwareJun 11 15:25
oiaohmReally I see the Apache version as last hope for a lot of propritary compettiors to Microsoft OfficeJun 11 15:26
sebsebseboiaohm: oh?Jun 11 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Unconstitutional Patent Reform, #SCOTUS Ruling on i4i & University Patent Rights, More Calls to Abolish #swpats http://is.gd/C8e2cJ #usptoJun 11 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Assange case: Sweden & the EU on trial on trial http://t.co/INavfQFJun 11 15:26
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oiaohmTheir are less closed source office suites today than 1 2 3 or even 8 years ago.  sebsebsebJun 11 15:27
oiaohmThey have been dieing off.Jun 11 15:27
oiaohmOne by One.Jun 11 15:27
oiaohmApache licensed Open Office might let them back in the game for a while.Jun 11 15:27
sebsebsebHere's an interesting link on this subject: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/strip-mining-of-openoffice-org/Jun 11 15:29
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sebsebsebhttp://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/strip-mining-of-openoffice-org/Jun 11 15:29
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sebsebsebbasically IBM want this badly, so they can use the code no problemJun 11 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Upcoming dates: June 15, Washington Grand Jury espionage hearing against WikiLeaksJun 11 15:31
oiaohmReally the thing is we are heading into an end game.Jun 11 15:32
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sebsebseboiaohm: into an end game?Jun 11 15:32
sebsebseboiaohm: Open Office will be like free labour for these companiesJun 11 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Upcoming dates: July 3, Assange turns 40, while under house arrestJun 11 15:36
sebsebsebanyway if I was someone who was against the Apache lisence, and had developed Open Office, becasue of the GPL  lesser 2 whatever it's called brain gone blankJun 11 15:37
sebsebseb,but developed, becasue of the lisence as one of the main reaonsJun 11 15:37
sebsebsebI would probably be quite annoyeed that it is going to be relisenced under ApacheJun 11 15:37
schestowitz[15:27] <oiaohm> Their are less closed source office suites today than 1 2 3 or even 8 years ago.  sebsebsebJun 11 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Upcoming dates: July 12-13 Assange extradition case, High Court, LondonJun 11 15:41
schestowitzYou leave out SaaS?Jun 11 15:41
schestowitzThere are quite a few bis of competionJun 11 15:42
schestowitzThat's why not many aim for itJun 11 15:42
schestowitzEven Microsoft is rushing into the Web while Office profits declineJun 11 15:42
schestowitzMany people now use blogs and exchange data in web forms and wikiJun 11 15:42
schestowitzI reckon more people will also prepare presentations like this, it's portable and cross-platformJun 11 15:42
oiaohmschestowitz: even including SaaSJun 11 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] While the Grand Jury is investigating Wikileaks can they also investigate the unconstitutional Libyan war?Jun 11 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: From Cold War to Cyber War (video) http://t.co/RbeLlxXJun 11 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] The Linux desktop experience is killing #Linux on the desktop http://bit.ly/kuKmblJun 11 15:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Bill Gates-funded, Microsoft UK vets-run #BBC continues to 'shape' the meaning of "hacker" http://is.gd/p9GIVr http://is.gd/4OmLtUJun 11 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Would You Use A #Chromebook If You Got One For Free ? http://is.gd/Z0oeab #linux #googleJun 11 15:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "You know it's true" http://imgur.com/ZRjt3Jun 11 16:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @mvalente Resolver pendentes da Justiça: suspender temporariamente o "juiz natural" e redistribuir processos por *todos* os juízes, e ...Jun 11 16:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Power rivalry at the UN - Brazil leads the charge to reform the UN Security Council. http://t.co/3pD71b3Jun 11 16:06
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/79562980534140928Jun 11 16:07
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: yes but probably get bored, install a full distro RT @schestowitz Would You Use A #Chromebook If You Got One For Free ? http://is.gd/Z0oeabJun 11 16:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] created a bid page for !Fedora #FUDCon in !China: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:China_2011 Help us to make this possibleJun 11 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 things you probably did not know about SELinux.. #6 http://is.gd/dOANbr #SELinux #securityJun 11 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Enlightenment , #DR17 and EFLs http://is.gd/iSEgdd #gnu #linuxJun 11 16:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Power rivalry at the UN - Brazil leads the charge to reform the UN Security Council. http://t.co/3pD71b3Jun 11 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Fresh Look At The #AMD #Radeon Gallium3D Performance http://is.gd/Vv2Jaq #linux #graphicsJun 11 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FSF: Are you up to the Tor challenge? http://is.gd/ROnRgG !fsf #privacy #torJun 11 16:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top 15 Avant Window Navigator “AWN” Themes | Part 3 http://is.gd/uJG1jK #awn is nice, but !kde has better panelsJun 11 16:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Interview with Troy of #MyGameCompany, part 2 in the replies http://is.gd/E1cu55 talking about #games for #gnu #linuxJun 11 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Boston: Join us at 6PM Wednesday to protest the WikiLeaks show trial. http://t.co/MEze8swJun 11 16:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies Now, now, that's not what the license(s) actually require(s).Jun 11 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fusion Linux – most popular #Fedora Remix http://is.gd/osYmJ7 #redhat #fusion #gnu #linuxJun 11 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GIMPBox : Get A Single-Window Mode In Stable GIMP (2.6.x) http://is.gd/34uFBl many windows are actually a featureJun 11 16:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman Opts to Disobey Anti-Piracy Law http://is.gd/KVsmy0 nothing to do with "Piracy", just Copyright-based monopoliesJun 11 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Time for some C coding tonight... http://i.imgur.com/ey1Vb.pngJun 11 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] http://ompldr.org/vOTBjdQ/icon.png <=== any idea what this is/is supposed to be? drew it last night at 3 AM O.o(needed an icon for moz ext)Jun 11 16:34
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sebsebsebschestowitz: most popular remix ohJun 11 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] John Pilger banned from US event: The journalist & documentary you don't see http://t.co/HmrbEEsJun 11 16:41
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schestowitz http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/43170.html Fusion Linux – most popular Fedora RemixTime for...Jun 11 16:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks & Amnesty: Guantanamo's children http://t.co/l7or6uzJun 11 16:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Police Abuse In #PuertoRico http://is.gd/P8EAl6Jun 11 17:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/joshcaza/status/79570602050076672 https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/79571718137589760Jun 11 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr@joshcaza: That is pretty damn funny - RT @schestowitz Time for some C coding tonight... http://t.co/XFFdUn3Jun 11 17:29
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TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz indeed, i now prefer it, great on multi-monitor setups :)Jun 11 17:29
schestowitzyes, spreading an application across monitors doesn't work well. GIMP rules.Jun 11 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Hey @selinuxfest folks, we've added some pictures from the conference | http://ow.ly/5fw0O #self2011Jun 11 17:31
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schestowitzRyan will like this.. http://i.imgur.com/5vioL.jpgJun 11 17:35
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/5IzwC.jpgJun 11 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 11/6/2011: Linux 2.6.x Left Behind, ZFS Left Aside http://is.gd/eEtYKe !techrightsJun 11 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 11/6/2011: Linux 2.6.x Left Behind, ZFS Left Aside http://is.gd/eEtYKe #techrightsJun 11 17:36
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schestowitzLOL http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/79293937977802752Jun 11 17:38
TechrightsBot-tr@LulzSec: Admin passwords of 55 porn sites + 26,000 porn passwords (including .gov and .mil names LOL) | http://t.co/HE5JyZo Just for mild fun!Jun 11 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Classic [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/YleUJ.jpg not so new thoughJun 11 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana It began to fail for me when I saw DiCaprio.Jun 11 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Defense Demilitarization-Program Management pdf at Cryptome http://ping.fm/FNFNRJun 11 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] My son thinks it's funny to put ice down my back. Just for the record; it really isn't!Jun 11 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @DemocraciaReal: ¡AHORA! Entrevista a Kristinn Hrafnsson, portavoz WIKILEAKS @vudeo_org bit.ly/l4JObEJun 11 18:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: Nice you link to a interview with Trish :D http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/2076258/impressions-mageia-linuxJun 11 18:29
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sebsebsebin Mageia group on Identica :)Jun 11 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks and the 22 children of Guantanamo http://t.co/xSqszCtJun 11 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mouthofopennms/@mouthofopennms] At #self2011. Is it me or is it rather cold here?Jun 11 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 'Proprietary software keeps users helpless' /by @rms at TechRadar UK http://ping.fm/pX7KNJun 11 18:35
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schestowitzsebsebseb: when _Goblin is around we ought to do a show about the distro, with you and a dev hopefullyJun 11 18:47
schestowitzBRB, building local git repo :-)Jun 11 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Urgently needing to remodel my media room... #baby threatening the backup storage already. :)Jun 11 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Once again I invite my subscribers on identi.ca to unsubscribe here and subs to http://status.piana.eu/carlopianaJun 11 18:50
sebsebsebschestowitz: 1.  I am not set up with Skype yet.  2.  some stuff I want to try out before I go Fedora 15 on here for a while or so  including Mageia 1  3.  I would talk generally about distro's and stuff like that.  4.  The actsual Mageia founder from Scotland, should be able to get him on after me and maybe even iwth me.Jun 11 18:50
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sebsebsebschestowitz: oh and I really look forward to Mageia 2 with Gnome 3 :)Jun 11 18:50
sebsebsebschestowitz: i'll come on Techbytes after I tried out what I am going to try out :DJun 11 18:51
sebsebsebso yep the Gnome 3 ppa in 11.04Jun 11 18:51
sebsebsebUbuntu 11.10 alpha 1Jun 11 18:51
sebsebsebon real hardware, all of these on real hardware in factJun 11 18:51
sebsebsebMageia 1 yep, probably whatever the development verison of Mandriva 2011 is even, and then I think probably Fedora 15 on here for a while or so, becasue I want to run Gnome 3 really now, and I can virtual machine Mageia for Gnome 2 and KDE if I want them, for example :DJun 11 18:52
sebsebsebschestowitz: going to even install Vista again, and then maybe I can get drivers for the sound from Windows update or something, going by something I read hmm, I lost the dirvers disc.  could be useful to have Vista on here working with sound for some things,  driving thorey DVD with DRM for exampleJun 11 18:53
sebsebsebmaybe even the head set I got, since that's made for Windows and Mac OS X reallyJun 11 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke interesting, I think I'd say wrt #Islamic analogues to !fs I'm #SufiJun 11 18:53
sebsebsebschestowitz: ,but before I do anything like that, well I got more Linux news I want to catch up on for exampleJun 11 18:53
sebsebsebschestowitz: I come on first on Techbytes, then thsi other guy later on, that was the plan all along,  maybe wasn't clear enough to you thoughJun 11 18:54
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh and he's not here right now, but I remember Gforbes (name a bit wrong)  saying something about how he would want to come on Techbytes some time with me.Jun 11 18:55
sebsebseband I deleted Vista eearlier again :DJun 11 18:56
sebsebsebwell that install is broken anwyayJun 11 18:56
sebsebsebstrange, because I kept it offline and it still brokeJun 11 18:56
sebsebsebweirdJun 11 18:56
sebsebseband it was quite a new install, but still messed upJun 11 18:56
sebsebsebI guess that proves how stable Vista really is then, heh hehJun 11 18:57
sebsebsebschestowitz: also that particular Mageia founder, wanted to be more invovled with Mageia before talking on  Techbytes by the sounds of it, since he has been busy with work and such or well I guess he still is really mainly, I would talk to him on IRC again about going on it , after I been on it though :).Jun 11 18:58
sebsebsebso me on it in June yep probably, but him well maybe not quite, that might not be untill July I don't knowJun 11 18:59
sebsebsebschestowitz: So let me sort out what I am going to do with my computer, which should be soon hmm,  and then i'll think more about Techbytes again :)Jun 11 19:04
sebsebsebseriously this time though, and get things set up for it and yep :)Jun 11 19:04
sebsebsebwell I was serious before, but a wait untill later on some time thing, but I did basically say on the potential guests page that probably me soon after the final of Mageia 1,  well I call any time this month soon after the final of Mageia 1 really :D except not quite the end or rather close to it, but even that is quite soon really.Jun 11 19:06
sebsebsebschestowitz: Also maybe at some stage I could get Trish to talk on it, but she seems to be a very busy woman,  when it comes to Mageia, but also whatever her job is.Jun 11 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fontana #avatar was mostly worthy for the lovely dangerous alien world. watched it twice in 3D because I wanted to drool again.Jun 11 19:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #MPAA Attacks #DemandProgress With Ridiculous & Unsubstantiated Claims http://goo.gl/Ln4GiJun 11 19:08
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sebsebsebschestowitz: ,but yeah nice link indeed sort of interview with her, and the website review. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/2076258/impressions-mageia-linuxJun 11 19:08
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sebsebseb:) http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/2076258/impressions-mageia-linuxJun 11 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Sabayon 5.5 !Xfce Review • by linuxmoose http://ping.fm/aLaVcJun 11 19:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 'Geek Power': #BestBuy Sends C&D To #Newegg Over Marketing Campaign http://goo.gl/yH6HTJun 11 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ENCRYPT YOUR PRIVATE DROPBOX DATA WITH ENCFS http://goo.gl/wz1tPJun 11 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] sorry, I just copy & paste headlines, webupd8 likes all CAPSJun 11 19:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @rrix yeah I hesitated before posting that, wondering should I correct the case, decided not to lol good call thoughJun 11 19:21
schestowitzpackage names in Ubuntu are messJun 11 19:23
schestowitzAnd packagekit is buggyJun 11 19:23
schestowitzCrashed on me and also not finding packages correctly, so I went to the GTK oneJun 11 19:23
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schestowitz[17:35] <schestowitz> Ryan will like this.. http://i.imgur.com/5vioL.jpgJun 11 19:25
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schestowitzGuns don't care, eitherJun 11 19:25
DaemonFCJabba does do that actuallyJun 11 19:25
DaemonFCwhy? :PJun 11 19:25
DaemonFCschestowitz, I keep my gun unloaded with the safety onJun 11 19:27
DaemonFCI'd have to be pretty clumsy to shoot myself like thatJun 11 19:27
DaemonFCthe statistics for people shooting themselves (by mistake) with their own gun are pretty funny reallyJun 11 19:28
schestowitzMeh... Jun 11 19:28
schestowitzFirst small thing I notice: I have no access permissions forJun 11 19:28
schestowitzxxxx. Thunderbird and Squirrelmail both give:Jun 11 19:28
schestowitz"ERROR: Could not complete request.Jun 11 19:28
schestowitzQuery: SELECT "xxxxx"Jun 11 19:28
schestowitzReason Given: Permission denied"Jun 11 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Getting ready to watch Harry Potter and the half blood Prince with the wife. seems like the only type of movies we can watch together..Jun 11 19:28
DaemonFCI'm in compliance with all federal, state, and local lawsJun 11 19:29
DaemonFC:)Jun 11 19:29
DaemonFCcriminals don't botherJun 11 19:29
DaemonFCdo you think a criminal walks into the sheriff's office "Excuse me, I'd like to buy a lifetime concealed carry permit for $500"Jun 11 19:29
DaemonFC"Oh, and run that mandatory background check that costs $250 too"Jun 11 19:30
DaemonFCno, I don't mind if it's non-refundable, even if you find all those feloniesJun 11 19:30
DaemonFClalalaJun 11 19:30
DaemonFCschestowitz barks up the wrong tree when he insults people that bother to follow the lawJun 11 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Have been very tired all day, don't know why, but I have to drink #V12 to keep my eyes openJun 11 19:31
DaemonFCwhere I do agree that the system is broken is that you don't need to go through a federal background check or a state one if you buy a firearm from a gun showJun 11 19:32
DaemonFCit's still illegal to carry or conceal without the permit, but a criminal doesn't careJun 11 19:32
DaemonFCcriminals don't tend to follow the lawJun 11 19:32
DaemonFCfunny how that works out isn't it? :)Jun 11 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I should probably try to take some pictures today http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110611 #sip_and_clickJun 11 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Maybe it is because I don't get to watch #BSG tonight... who knowsJun 11 19:33
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schestowitzOK, got some tutorials on git syntax and paradigm of keeping all files locally. Got the entire tree from the SVN server (took a while to find its address), ./configured while installing several missing packages like Berkeley DB and several more, eventually getting the MakeFile which currently fail to build (syntactic error on the face of it). Almost there anyway... trying to keep an eye on the monitoring panel at the same time.Jun 11 19:33
DaemonFCas far as the law goes, the only way to win is to know the law, because you're playing by their game and if you don't know their rules, you WILL lose every timeJun 11 19:33
DaemonFCin fact, their sloppy police work hinges on it sometimesJun 11 19:34
schestowitzI'm hacking on http://www.cyrusimap.org/ to add some functionality the govt. needs..Jun 11 19:34
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schestowitz[19:32] <DaemonFC> criminals don't tend to follow the lawJun 11 19:34
schestowitzSame with drugsJun 11 19:34
schestowitzYou need to find the sources, not the usersJun 11 19:34
DaemonFCschestowitz, They go after the users because the users have already fried their brains and are a pushover in courtJun 11 19:35
schestowitz*If* you want to actually address the issue or just have an excuse to  intrude people's lives/homesJun 11 19:35
DaemonFCthe sources tend to be smart, innovative, and rich (from all the drug money)Jun 11 19:35
DaemonFCthey tend to get the best lawyersJun 11 19:35
DaemonFCthe users get paraded around in cartoon court with some overburdened underpaid public defenderJun 11 19:36
schestowitzdistributors at the high levelJun 11 19:36
schestowitzBut some are overseas tooJun 11 19:36
schestowitzIt's a tiered marketJun 11 19:36
schestowitzThe growers don't need to fall under the same national lawJun 11 19:36
schestowitzAnd they can use smugglersJun 11 19:36
DaemonFCright, the growers tend to be in Central and South American countriesJun 11 19:36
DaemonFCwhere they pay the cops to look the other wayJun 11 19:37
DaemonFCand they hire mules that are expendable to try sneaking it through the bordersJun 11 19:37
schestowitz!google drugs colombia submarineJun 11 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Colombia's 100-foot drug-smuggling submarine - The Week | http://theweek.com/article/index/212148/colombias-100-foot-drug-smuggling-submarineJun 11 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Narco submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco_submarineJun 11 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Drug Smuggling Submarine Seized In Colombia | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/15/drug-submarine-seized-colombia_n_823445.htmlJun 11 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - BBC News | AMERICAS | Drug submarine found in Colombia | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/915059.stmJun 11 19:37
DaemonFCsome will be caught, cost of doing businessJun 11 19:37
DaemonFCWe all live in a narco submarine, narco submarine, narco submarine....Jun 11 19:37
DaemonFCB-)Jun 11 19:37
schestowitz!google yellow submarineJun 11 19:38
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Yellow Submarine - The Beatles | http://www.beatles.com/albums/Yellow_Submarine2Jun 11 19:38
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Yellow Submarine (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Submarine_(film)Jun 11 19:38
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - The beatles yellow submarine | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DMCsYDZ2M04MJun 11 19:38
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Yellow Submarine (1968) - IMDb | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063823/Jun 11 19:38
schestowitzmaybe they can grow the drugs inside itJun 11 19:38
schestowitzLike using it as a reactorJun 11 19:38
schestowitz!google trident submarineJun 11 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Trident submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_submarineJun 11 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Ohio class submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_class_submarineJun 11 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - SSBN-726 Ohio-Class FBM Submarines - Federation of American Scientists | http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/uswpns/navy/submarines/ssbn726_ohio.htmlJun 11 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The US Navy -- Fact File: Fleet Ballistic Missile Submarines - SSBN | http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp%3Fcid%3D4100%26tid%3D200%26ct%3D4Jun 11 19:39
DaemonFCmy landlord asked me if I knew why the last downstairs tenants used so much electricityJun 11 19:39
DaemonFCI told him to look in the closets for their gardening activityJun 11 19:39
schestowitz!google trident collision franceJun 11 19:39
DaemonFC:)Jun 11 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - British and French nuclear submarine collision 'as serious as ... | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/4640673/British-and-French-nuclear-submarine-collision-as-serious-as-sinking-of-Kursk.htmlJun 11 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - British, French nuclear subs collide - World news - Europe - msnbc.com | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29220252/ns/world_news-europe/t/british-french-nuclear-subs-collide-atlantic/Jun 11 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Nuclear Submarine Collision: Vanguard, Le Triomphant, Trident ... | http://bluestarchronicles.com/2009/02/20/nuclear-submarine-collision-vanguard-le-triomphant-trident-controversy/Jun 11 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - British Policy and Parliament: Latest Additions | http://www.acronym.org.uk/news/0902.htmJun 11 19:39
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DaemonFChe asked how I knew and I told him I smelled it coming through the floorJun 11 19:40
DaemonFC:PJun 11 19:40
DaemonFCnot like he ever did anything about itJun 11 19:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: in a house near a friend's neighbourhood the tenants just used the place (indoors) as a greenhouse for potJun 11 19:40
DaemonFCmade them pay for their own electric billJun 11 19:40
schestowitzThe police caught them, evicted hemJun 11 19:40
schestowitz*ThemJun 11 19:40
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DaemonFCit has a very pungent aroma Jun 11 19:41
DaemonFCunmistakable Jun 11 19:41
DaemonFCI don't get how they can outlaw and fight a "war" against a plant that grows from the groundJun 11 19:42
DaemonFCwhich can live or be grown anywhereJun 11 19:43
DaemonFCschestowitz, Anyone who has marijuana in Indiana faces a second crime, tax evasionJun 11 19:43
DaemonFCyou have to buy tax stamps that don't existJun 11 19:44
DaemonFCand affix it to all your baggies Jun 11 19:44
DaemonFCor else you're violating tax law tooJun 11 19:44
DaemonFC:)Jun 11 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] will #Apple patent a cloud based #DDoS method & call it #iStorm? #humourJun 11 19:45
DaemonFCpossession of less than an ounce is a misdemeanor, but evading taxes is a D felonyJun 11 19:45
DaemonFCso you can get a year for the weed and 5 for not paying taxes on itJun 11 19:45
DaemonFCschestowitz, but in Massachusetts, possession of an ounce or less is a civil infraction with a fine of $100Jun 11 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Still three seats free for the LibreOffice QA weekend in Essen next week - join us! http://is.gd/m297Au !libo !tdfJun 11 19:46
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DaemonFCyou're free to go, no criminal recordJun 11 19:47
DaemonFCevery state that decriminalizes it gets their own personal scare campaign by the fedsJun 11 19:47
DaemonFCthey send DEA agents to come up with an astroturf campaign of "concerned citizens"Jun 11 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Penn Olson • by C. Custer • Independent Chinese Website Allows Netizens to Report Corruption http://ping.fm/DiweaJun 11 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] A few seats for the LibreOffice project weekend in Hof end of July are still free as well: http://is.gd/SDYPjJ !libo !tdfJun 11 19:48
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DaemonFCoh no, my neighbor might be in there eating doritos, the horror!!!Jun 11 19:48
DaemonFC:)Jun 11 19:48
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DaemonFCno, they make it sound like pot=terrorism, even if grown in someone's closetJun 11 19:49
DaemonFClaws against pot are the reason these cartels exist and why thousands of people die every yearJun 11 19:50
DaemonFCthe pot itself is basically harmlessJun 11 19:50
GoForbes28DaemonFC: BTW, 29 days until pot legalisationJun 11 19:51
DaemonFCwhere?Jun 11 19:51
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DaemonFCthere's no scientific evidence that pot has ever killed anyoneJun 11 19:51
DaemonFCnone at allJun 11 19:52
DaemonFCshow me someJun 11 19:52
DaemonFC:)Jun 11 19:52
GoForbes28daemonFC: CanadaJun 11 19:52
GoForbes28Still, if it was legalised, I wouldn't smoke itJun 11 19:52
gnufreexOne guy got stoned and thought he can flyJun 11 19:52
gnufreexSo he tried to flyJun 11 19:52
gnufreexhe failedJun 11 19:52
GoForbes28pretty much smoking anything is the worse way of absorbing the drubJun 11 19:52
DaemonFClots of people drink alcohol and run their cars into innocent bystanders at high speedsJun 11 19:53
GoForbes28because of the crap that gets smoked along with the drugJun 11 19:53
DaemonFCor die of alcohol poisoningJun 11 19:53
GoForbes28I would try it in a teaJun 11 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Stop the unchecked #fracking of our water. Tell your #Senator co-sponsor the #FRACAct: http://ur1.ca/4ef0h @CREDOMobileJun 11 19:53
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DaemonFCthey banned alcohol in the United States and gave rise to all kinds of organized crimeJun 11 19:53
DaemonFCand dangerous home brewed crap that killed peopleJun 11 19:53
GoForbes28DaemonFC: YepJun 11 19:54
DaemonFCthe damage from the law is greater than the damage of the substanceJun 11 19:54
DaemonFCrepeal the lawJun 11 19:54
DaemonFClaws regulating behavior that people will engage in anyway are always more trouble than they are worthJun 11 19:55
GoForbes28unfortunately, this is a conservative party that doesn't look at data or statistics, and by consequence, realityJun 11 19:57
DaemonFCIf I was running everything (obviously not), I would repeal all laws against behavior where the law itself was causing more harm, where the harm was inflicted only on the person doing it, or where there was no harm at allJun 11 19:57
GoForbes28"We will enact our stupid wasteful over-the-top crime agenda because it's a part of our mandate!  Who cares about statistics that actually point to an intelligent course of action?Jun 11 19:58
gnufreexDaemonFC: so you think pot should be legal? Jun 11 19:58
DaemonFCyesJun 11 19:58
GoForbes28yesJun 11 19:58
GoForbes28all drugs should be legalJun 11 19:58
GoForbes28or at the very least regulatedJun 11 19:58
gnufreexHeroin too?Jun 11 19:58
GoForbes28yepJun 11 19:58
gnufreexYou are crazyJun 11 19:58
GoForbes28because illegalisation does shit allJun 11 19:58
DaemonFCI think the laws criminalizing heroin use should be repealed, possession of small amounts tooJun 11 19:58
DaemonFCand they should focus instead on treatment of the user to try to get them off of itJun 11 19:59
sebsebsebGoForbes28: Still want to go on Techbytes with me sometime?Jun 11 19:59
GoForbes28yeahJun 11 19:59
DaemonFCsave the laws for the people selling the shitJun 11 19:59
DaemonFCthrow them in jailJun 11 19:59
sebsebsebGoForbes28: yeah to me?Jun 11 19:59
GoForbes28yesJun 11 19:59
gnufreexYou know what that will do? It will make prices go down, and you will have nations full of adicts.Jun 11 19:59
DaemonFCno, if they focused on the dealers isntead of the users, we'd be a lot better offJun 11 20:00
GoForbes28excuse me for a second, time to put on "Trick of the Tail"; one of the greatest albums  everJun 11 20:00
sebsebsebGoForbes28: well I got  a computer to sort out,  distro trying and such, but then should be going on there to  be intervieved by schestowitz and Tim about distro's and such :)  ,but yeah another time we could go on together as well I guess or somethingJun 11 20:00
gnufreexDaemonFC: How do you mean "focus on dealers" if it is legalized?Jun 11 20:00
DaemonFCI think that DEALING heroin should be a capital offenseJun 11 20:00
DaemonFCand A felonyJun 11 20:00
gnufreexnote I am talking about hard drugs like heroin, not potJun 11 20:01
DaemonFCgo after the dealers, not their victims, with the criminal lawJun 11 20:01
gnufreexpot could be legalJun 11 20:01
gnufreexI don't careJun 11 20:01
GoForbes28sebsebseb: Yeah, I'd like to a part of an opinion episodeJun 11 20:01
gnufreexIt is not that adictiveJun 11 20:01
GoForbes28sebsebseb: Where I can offer input on stuff when I canJun 11 20:01
GoForbes28sebsebseb: an interview of me would take all of 2 minutes :PJun 11 20:01
GoForbes28oh yes, this album kicks assJun 11 20:02
DaemonFCgnufreex, Instead of packing prisons full of heroin addicts, where they can get the stuff anyway, like we do nowJun 11 20:02
DaemonFCthrow the dealers in insteadJun 11 20:02
DaemonFCand give them a possible death sentenceJun 11 20:03
sebsebsebGoForbes28: oh I seeJun 11 20:03
DaemonFCthat's my opinionJun 11 20:03
GoForbes28daemonFC: When it comes to filesharing, leave the dealers aloneJun 11 20:03
GoForbes28especially since BitTorrent makes everybody a "dealer"Jun 11 20:03
gnufreexDaemonFC: You asume that dealers are let go because police have too much work with adicts. That is not true.Jun 11 20:03
sebsebsebGoForbes28: well I want to talk about my expereinces with,  Ubuntu, Fedora, PC Linux OS, Mageia, or whatever, various distro's  and explain why I want to do stuff for Mageia, but may not run as a main distro yet or whateverJun 11 20:03
gnufreexDaemonFC: Dealers are priorityJun 11 20:03
GoForbes28"You better start doing it right!! Dun-dun-dun, dun-dun dunnnn!"Jun 11 20:04
gnufreexDaemonFC: Adicts are sent to clinics for treatmentJun 11 20:04
DaemonFCmy Grandmother was pissed at me one day, because my Aunt works in a state prison and was saying how they got tobacco in there and rolled it up in pages torn out of those gideons bibles and lit it with the light socketsJun 11 20:04
sebsebsebGoForbes28: and there might be something about how I found Techrights IRC or something, I don't know, depending on what is asked or wahteverJun 11 20:04
DaemonFCMy response: At least they found a use for the biblesJun 11 20:04
DaemonFCheheJun 11 20:04
sebsebsebGoForbes28: ,but I am  making sure that when I go on it's with both schestowitz and Roy :)Jun 11 20:04
sebsebsebwhat distro's have you used by the way?Jun 11 20:04
GoForbes28...Jun 11 20:04
GoForbes28sebsebseb: Roy [and] Schestowitz?Jun 11 20:05
GoForbes28You mean Tim?Jun 11 20:05
sebsebsebyepJun 11 20:05
sebsebsebthat was a typo or wahtever I meant to put TimJun 11 20:05
GoForbes28lolJun 11 20:05
GoForbes28no probJun 11 20:05
sebsebsebaltough schestowitz has turned into two people now actsaulyJun 11 20:05
sebsebsebone is this obbssed blogger with Linux news and Techbytes guyJun 11 20:05
DaemonFCThank God and Jesus, for these cigarettes, *riiiip*Jun 11 20:05
DaemonFC:PJun 11 20:05
sebsebsebthe other person is someone who has a job and goes to the gym, and has real life friendsJun 11 20:05
sebsebsebGoForbes28: that's the secret, to how it seems schestowitz does so much stuff!Jun 11 20:06
sebsebseband this is meant to be funny ^ :DJun 11 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fontana well, I know nothing of latin anyways. :) still, first time I ever heard about that pronunciation! But it appears to be correct.Jun 11 20:06
sebsebsebGoForbes28: well Tim has tried out Mageia, he did a review of the KDE versionJun 11 20:07
DaemonFCschestowitz sez GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!!!Jun 11 20:07
DaemonFCB-)Jun 11 20:07
sebsebsebGoForbes28: maybe you should try it out as well, then we could go on together, and talk about trying out Mageia, but also other distros?Jun 11 20:07
sebsebsebor somethingJun 11 20:07
GoForbes28daemonfc: cigarettes are just stupid IMO; go out and drink some fresh tarJun 11 20:08
DaemonFCas I am sitting here smoking one...Jun 11 20:08
GoForbes28DaemonFC: and...Jun 11 20:09
GoForbes28I didn't say YOU are stupidJun 11 20:09
DaemonFCnicotine has therapeutic benefits Jun 11 20:09
GoForbes28I said cigarettes, (as a concept), are stupidJun 11 20:09
sebsebsebGoForbes28: So what distros have you used anyway, as I was saying?Jun 11 20:09
GoForbes28DaemonFC: So does green teaJun 11 20:09
GoForbes28or exerciseJun 11 20:09
GoForbes28or a great many other thingsJun 11 20:09
GoForbes28sebsebseb: Let's seeJun 11 20:10
GoForbes28I've used several versions of Xubuntu as main installationJun 11 20:10
GoForbes28I've been testing Debian extensivelyJun 11 20:10
GoForbes28I've set up Sidux/aptosid a few timesJun 11 20:10
GoForbes28I've tried Fedora/XFCE brieflyJun 11 20:11
sebsebsebthat's DEB distros though not RPMJun 11 20:11
GoForbes28I've set up KubuntuJun 11 20:11
sebsebsebexcept for Fedora :)Jun 11 20:11
GoForbes28I tried BlagJun 11 20:11
GoForbes28and TriquelJun 11 20:11
GoForbes28and TrisquelJun 11 20:11
GoForbes28DSLJun 11 20:12
sebsebsebGoForbes28: you could try out Mageia :) and then we could have a episode with Tim and Roy about Mageia trying it out and such, and a bit about other distros' even or something? :)Jun 11 20:12
GoForbes28PuppyJun 11 20:12
GoForbes28Isn't Mageia at this point just Mandriva?Jun 11 20:12
sebsebsebwhen I say try out Mageia, I mean KDE and Gnome, but sure do XFCE and LXDE if you want even whilst at itJun 11 20:12
sebsebsebGoForbes28: yep pretty similar to Mandriva at the momentJun 11 20:12
sebsebsebyou could try out Mandriva development version and compare even :D  in fact  I will be trying that out to compare :DJun 11 20:13
sebsebsebMandriva 2011 that isJun 11 20:13
sebsebsebMageia 1 is pretty similar to Mnadriva 2010.2 except for the latesr KDE, XFCE, and LXDE, and LibreOffice not OpenOffice, and obviusly different brandingJun 11 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Are Bitcoins a Scam?" by MICHAEL « Already? « First time I've ever seen the backlash come first http://ping.fm/Ab8YeJun 11 20:13
GoForbes28well If I get the timeJun 11 20:13
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sebsebsebGoForbes28: or eh well can be on it more than once anyway :D,  but yeah maybe i'll do what I am thinking of doing and well whatever that becomes,  the  interview with Roy and Tim  only, and then could come on with you another time as wellJun 11 20:14
GoForbes28right now, I want to get Debian perfected :PJun 11 20:14
sebsebseband schestowitz seems to want me to be on when that Mageia founder comes on as well :)Jun 11 20:14
GoForbes28I guess I'd be the business university student perspectiveJun 11 20:14
sebsebsebGoForbes28: right now I  am trying to catch up on Linux stuff,  a lot of it, and well OS stuff to sort out,  and  then Skype and :)Jun 11 20:15
GoForbes28The guy who will complain about the Excel 2007 course, etc. :PJun 11 20:15
sebsebsebioh?Jun 11 20:15
sebsebsebI haven't really got on well with these sucky Microsoft Office and such IT courses myselfJun 11 20:15
sebsebsebwell sounds like I might be on Techbytes three times this year then :D ,but ok cool :)Jun 11 20:16
sebsebsebat least three times that isJun 11 20:16
sebsebsebonce on my own with them :),  once with you :), and once with the Mageia founderJun 11 20:17
sebsebseband I guess could be on again,  if Mageia 2 comes out this year :)  and then go on again this yearJun 11 20:18
GoForbes28sureJun 11 20:18
sebsebsebschestowitz: the above sounds ok yeah?Jun 11 20:18
sebsebsebaltough if I am on with the Mageia founder, I probably woudn't  say muchJun 11 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 210 million downloads on 2011-06-11 19:17 UTCJun 11 20:23
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DaemonFCThe summary of the US government v Bitcoins boils down to "Nobody can create worthless currency besides us"Jun 11 20:25
DaemonFCamusing reallyJun 11 20:25
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DaemonFCRick Harrison, who is on the relity show "Pawn Stars" who co-owns the Gold and Silver Pawn Shop in Las Vegas has said a lot of people don't want US dollars in trade for their stuff anymoreJun 11 20:26
DaemonFCand are asking for the dollar value in some form of goldJun 11 20:27
DaemonFCnot surprising, since with the various stock bubbles and crashes and the roller coaster ride of made up currency like dollars and euros, people are starting to question why we even use such thingsJun 11 20:28
GoForbes28DaemonFC: Take economics and find outJun 11 20:28
GoForbes28Long history on how the money we have today developedJun 11 20:29
DaemonFCpretty much every government in the world puts out a worthless supply of fiat currency, or bases their system on someone else'sJun 11 20:29
DaemonFCthose currencies are backed by nothing, only about 10% of US dollars actually exist in some paper or coin formJun 11 20:29
DaemonFCthe rest are just totally imaginary (like euros)Jun 11 20:30
DaemonFCthe only reason a dollar or a euro or other such currency is worth anything is because people accept them in tradeJun 11 20:30
DaemonFCso what is different between that and Bitcoin besides the fact that it's someone else's funny money and not some government bank's?Jun 11 20:31
sebsebsebGoForbes28: schestowitz  MinceR_  oiaohm cubezzz gnufreex_ DaemonFC  Oh look what I came across after a bit of Googleing :D http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/4ccf72004db595a8Jun 11 20:32
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sebsebsebhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/4ccf72004db595a8Jun 11 20:33
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sebsebseband yep some of us, do change distro's every now and again,  some much more so than othersJun 11 20:34
GoForbes28FUD FUD FUDJun 11 20:34
sebsebseband some of us don't have proper test PC's to do this on, such as myself,   and we don't dual boot more than one distro either, so basically we pick a distro to run as the main one at whatever time it is.  and hello COLA people if reading thisJun 11 20:34
sebsebsebin the log laterJun 11 20:35
DaemonFCGoForbes28, Bitcoin is not a scam in my opinion. The only thing keeping me from diving in is because a lot of the places I shop at don't take them.Jun 11 20:35
sebsebsebwhen this ends up in a logJun 11 20:35
DaemonFCThey're at least no more of a scam than the US Dollar or the Euro.Jun 11 20:35
DaemonFCIn fact, they are worthless, and that makes them more valuable than USD or Euro, because those are based on debt, which makes them worse than worthless, they are worth less than worthless.Jun 11 20:36
DaemonFCthese free trade agreements are meant to suck the life out of modern industrialized countries, and make us so desperate for jobs that we will work for next to nothing and repeal our environmental and worker safety laws just to compete.Jun 11 20:38
DaemonFCas the value of the US Dollar goes down, more countries import things from the US because of it, that's good until you consider that the reason the dollar is down is because the average US worker has accepted a lower quality of lifeJun 11 20:39
DaemonFCthe whole system is a global scam intended to create peasants (lots of them) and super rich people (few of them with lots of money)Jun 11 20:40
sebsebsebGoForbes28: what the COLA link?Jun 11 20:40
GoForbes28yeahJun 11 20:41
DaemonFCNAFTA's supporters said that Mexico would become more like the United States, but the situation in Mexico is just as bad no for the average person as ever, but the US is becoming more like MexicoJun 11 20:41
sebsebsebGoForbes28: I got onto something that was linked at the bottom of that hmmJun 11 20:41
sebsebsebGoForbes28: http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/Jun 11 20:41
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sebsebsebhttp://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/Jun 11 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is reality with 130 dents!Jun 11 20:41
sebsebsebGoForbes28: what they say about Roy seems quite untrue to me, but eh well, let's not feed the trolls I  guess, as  the saying goes?Jun 11 20:42
sebsebsebI mean they may read this stuff later, when it goes in a public logJun 11 20:42
DaemonFCunfortunately the political spectrums are skewed, where a liberal isn't really a liberal and a conservative is not really a conservative, but in the truest sense of the words I consider myself a social Libertarian and a fiscal ConservativeJun 11 20:43
sebsebsebGoForbes28: what was said on that blog I meantJun 11 20:44
cubezzzlibel...Jun 11 20:45
cubezzzRoy has a jobJun 11 20:46
GoForbes28DaemonFC: I'm a centris :PJun 11 20:46
sebsebsebcubezzz: yep he's not even at university anymoreJun 11 20:46
sebsebsebas far as I knowJun 11 20:46
sebsebsebcubezzz: maybe they should update their troll blog a bitJun 11 20:46
sebsebsebthe one I just linked toJun 11 20:46
GoForbes28sebsebseb: Yep, looks like it was done by someone in two seconds banging on a keyboardJun 11 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @bkuhn @marjoleink,I've #NoScript plugin on by default;I *rarely* permit #Javascript. Most sites function well enough to get relevant ...Jun 11 20:46
cubezzzah, probably better to ignoreJun 11 20:46
sebsebsebcubezzz: did you see the first link I gave?Jun 11 20:47
GoForbes28What these types of blogs bring to my mindJun 11 20:47
GoForbes28!google Genesis Who DunnitJun 11 20:47
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - Genesis - Who Dunnit | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D3XJ3kXUBIAQJun 11 20:47
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - Genesis - Who Dunnit? | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DMOIa3yfo80sJun 11 20:47
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Abacab - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AbacabJun 11 20:47
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - SongMeanings | Lyrics | Genesis - Who Dunnit? | http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/1675/Jun 11 20:47
cubezzzsebsebseb, not sureJun 11 20:47
sebsebsebhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/4ccf72004db595a8Jun 11 20:47
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sebsebsebcubezzz: this http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/4ccf72004db595a8Jun 11 20:47
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GoForbes28lol Linux advocates to avoidJun 11 20:48
cubezzzI just try to keep positive about stuff in my blogJun 11 20:48
GoForbes28with anti-linux linksJun 11 20:48
cubezzzhttp://cubexyz.blogspot.comJun 11 20:48
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GoForbes28but I'm not a Windows advoacate.  no sireeeJun 11 20:48
sebsebsebGoForbes28: yeah it was in the signature thing of the first linkJun 11 20:48
cubezzzmore informational than confrontionalJun 11 20:48
sebsebsebGoForbes28: what are you on that page as well?Jun 11 20:49
GoForbes28nahJun 11 20:49
GoForbes28I was just pointing out a flaw in the strategyJun 11 20:49
cubezzzanyways... :)Jun 11 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Slashdot • by timothy • Anonymous Takes Down Turkish Government Site http://ping.fm/P4wngJun 11 20:50
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cubezzzi just fixed a windows box todayJun 11 20:51
sebsebsebThey got another one here: http://limuxwatch.blogspot.com/Jun 11 20:51
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sebsebsebhttp://limuxwatch.blogspot.com/Jun 11 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Józef Pinior: there were regulations about corpses in the CIA prison. EU intervenes http://t.co/uSVvi89Jun 11 20:51
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GoForbes28cubezzz: How many gunshots did it take?Jun 11 20:52
cubezzzwhy are they misspelling linux as limux?Jun 11 20:52
cubezzzGoForbes28, it was a minor fixJun 11 20:52
cubezzzthey thought a rogue server was running on itJun 11 20:53
cubezzzbut it was part of the nvidia softwareJun 11 20:53
cubezzzand some icons disappeared :)Jun 11 20:53
GoForbes28cubezzz: Probably to use all posssible domain namesJun 11 20:53
cubezzzbut no one searches for "limux"Jun 11 20:53
cubezzzwindows needs a lot of babysittingJun 11 20:55
cubezzzI'm still using a modified fc1 install on this boxJun 11 20:55
GoForbes28doesn't matter, the site mention linux enoughJun 11 20:55
cubezzzthe trend is towards linux, not awayJun 11 20:55
cubezzzespecially people with older computersJun 11 20:56
cubezzzI show them freebsd or slitaz and they really like itJun 11 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ACLU: Pretending WikiLeaks Doesn’t Exist: Government Secrecy Reaches Absurdity http://t.co/ECCgkZWJun 11 20:56
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cubezzzdistrowatch.com itself is a huge dealJun 11 20:57
sebsebsebWOW they even did one for this: http://us.generation-nt.com/tell-us-again-about-linux-great-hardware-support-help-203602282.htmlJun 11 20:57
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sebsebsebhttp://us.generation-nt.com/tell-us-again-about-linux-great-hardware-support-help-203602282.htmlJun 11 20:57
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sebsebsebTo any COLA people that may end up reading this: I want to make something clear, not everyone who comes in here hates Microsoft or Windows!Jun 11 20:58
cubezzzsebsebseb, http://linuxcompatible.orgJun 11 20:58
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cubezzzjust to counter-balance thingsJun 11 20:58
cubezzzthe good is stronger than the badJun 11 20:58
sebsebsebcubezzz: well it was bought from a shop, so I coudn't just check Linux compatiabily at the time anywayJun 11 20:58
sebsebsebalso that's not COLA that's some other site, but it seems to be by the same person as the other.Jun 11 20:59
cubezzzah, I don't even read COLAJun 11 20:59
cubezzzwe had the same stupidty back in the 80'sJun 11 20:59
cubezzzonly back then it was atari ST vs. amiga :)Jun 11 20:59
cubezzznot windows vs linuxJun 11 20:59
cubezzzI've used a lot of different systems, and CMS was a great operating systemJun 11 21:01
cubezzzbut it's specific to older mainframes, not sure if anyone uses it nowadaysJun 11 21:01
sebsebsebyep  a lot of Windows vs Linux these days, or more specifically Ubuntu vs WindowsJun 11 21:02
sebsebseb,because as far as I know anyway, most other distros and their communiteis just want a good distro, and don't really care that much about loads of Windows users using it reallyJun 11 21:02
cubezzzBeOS was worth a look tooJun 11 21:02
cubezzzwhy just fixate on windows & linux? Lots of other good OSes to check outJun 11 21:02
sebsebsebnot having to many ignorant Windows haters/dislikers to a distro, can be quite a good thing actsualley as I have found out ;)Jun 11 21:03
cubezzzcustomer wants Plan 9? I give them plan 9Jun 11 21:03
cubezzzcustomer was FreeBSD? sameJun 11 21:03
sebsebsebthat's a bit like saying, why just fixate on Ubuntu, loads  or Desktop Linux distro's exist, that many people would find better really.Jun 11 21:03
cubezzzexactlyJun 11 21:03
DaemonFCcubezzz, Have any customers actually wanted Plan 9?Jun 11 21:04
cubezzzzero :)Jun 11 21:04
DaemonFCif so, how's that working out for them?Jun 11 21:04
DaemonFCahhhJun 11 21:04
*MinceR_ is now known as MinceRJun 11 21:04
sebsebsebcubezzz: exatly at what I just put about distros?Jun 11 21:04
cubezzzso none yet Jun 11 21:04
cubezzzwhy fixate on Ubuntu.. as you sayJun 11 21:04
cubezzzthere's no reasonJun 11 21:04
sebsebsebno proper reason indeed, but it happens since all the hype since 2004, oh and how they got Mark Shuttleworth with his money behind it as well of courseJun 11 21:05
cubezzzDaemonFC, a few people wanted FreeBSDJun 11 21:05
cubezzznot many thoughJun 11 21:05
cubezzzwhen I show people Plan 9 they get scared away :)Jun 11 21:05
cubezzzbrowsing the net on Plan 9 isn't too greatJun 11 21:06
GoForbes28Plan 9?Jun 11 21:08
cubezzzGoForbes28, the sequel to Unix from Bell LabsJun 11 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] SeaMonkey 2.1 released http://lwn.net/Articles/447170/rssJun 11 21:08
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GoForbes28oh rightJun 11 21:09
GoForbes28remember that nowJun 11 21:09
sebsebsebGoForbes28: remember what?Jun 11 21:09
GoForbes28Plan 9Jun 11 21:11
GoForbes28I remember reading about itJun 11 21:11
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DaemonFChttp://www.cliffsnotes.com/study_guide/literature/Animal-Farm.id-12.htmlJun 11 21:27
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DaemonFChehJun 11 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Say @bkuhn if web app running on server is otherwise !GPL does that imply #JavaScript pushed to client is GPL'd?Jun 11 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @eightyeight I'm glad for software and hardware that respects my freedoms, for developers that fight for it, and for organizations th ...Jun 11 21:35
DaemonFCMinceR, Stalin's Boots are still there, (what's left of his statue).Jun 11 21:42
DaemonFCmust be because those are some large boots for your leaders to fill :)Jun 11 21:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pumpkin/@pumpkin] !WikiLeaks Grand Jury investigation widens http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/06/09/wikileaksJun 11 21:51
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MinceRDaemonFC: not for lack of trying thoughJun 11 21:52
MinceRwe already have a totalitarian national socialist dictatorship goingJun 11 21:53
MinceRwell, they have it going anywayJun 11 21:53
MinceRi'm just a victimJun 11 21:53
DaemonFCMinceR, As I stood there, in horror, unable to stop them...?Jun 11 21:54
DaemonFCknow the feelingJun 11 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] i have just buyed this Asus A52F http://va.mu/X9O ; any tips to get a m$-window$ #refund? http://nao.quero.imposto.ms/Jun 11 22:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] micro$oft #refund: http://nao.quero.imposto.ms/?page_id=11Jun 11 22:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana Surely the actual code is licensed as stated in its comments (if at all) and the real question concerns compliance?Jun 11 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] microsoft #refund: "Asus e o Imposto Microsoft" http://va.mu/YFw ; http://va.mu/YFmJun 11 22:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] microsoft #refund: "Carta para pedir devolução do imposto Microsoft" http://va.mu/YF6 ; m$ info http://va.mu/YGBJun 11 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana You'll just have to troll a different way.Jun 11 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #SarahPalin pleaded with #TonyHayward for a #BP pipeline http://is.gd/SxMzX9Jun 11 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Amanhã começa a minha saga para tentar se ressarcido do valor do ms-windows7 que veio com o meu Asus A52F... https://ovigia.wordpress.comJun 11 22:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #SarahPalin emails: 'The false assumptions are mind boggling' http://is.gd/esdij4Jun 11 22:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] What you won't see in CNN's WikiWars tonight: http://t.co/lNwYZX4Jun 11 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #hardware: Asus A52F + GNU/Linux - http://is.gd/vJygzJ ; http://is.gd/8VYGJq http://is.gd/EabhqYJun 11 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #US far right wing #conservatives do seem to be professional #hypocritical victims http://is.gd/xuoFf8Jun 11 22:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Interesting reactions page about the #SarahPalin emails http://is.gd/OitZ8lJun 11 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] 2tu.us/3d6l As Islamists Flex Muscle, Egypt's Christians Despair 2tu.us/3d6k Mubarak's hell is better than islamo-facist's heaven.Jun 11 22:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] My father had never before used a computer .... will start next week .... with Debian GNU / Linux :)Jun 11 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I always find #FoxNews taking the moral high ground hilarious, when they accuse others of unbiased reporting #pot #kettle #looniesJun 11 22:56
schestowitzhttp://slashdot.org/submission/1644266/France-to-launch-a-national-patent-trollJun 11 22:57
schestowitzPlease vote for it.Jun 11 22:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rofl check the very first comment http://is.gd/OitZ8l the #TeaParty in full effectJun 11 22:58
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DaemonFCFrance seems to be taking a lot of marching orders from some really bad people, are the Vichy French back in power?Jun 11 23:03
*schestowitz gives channel operator status to cubezzzJun 11 23:07
*schestowitz gives channel operator status to GoForbes28Jun 11 23:07
schestowitzin case the children come to sabotage the channelJun 11 23:08
sebsebsebschestowitz: Maybe you should email LInus Torvalds and ask him if he wants to be on Techbytes :D. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1150660Jun 11 23:09
DaemonFCam I missing something?Jun 11 23:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] summer as a !football fan is #annoying & #unsettling, feasting on scraps of transfer news, no games on :( it throws your entire week outJun 11 23:10
schestowitz[20:12] <sebsebseb> GoForbes28: you could try out Mageia :) and then we could have a episode with Tim and Roy about Mageia trying it out and such, and a bit about other distros' even or something? :)Jun 11 23:10
schestowitzCan't afford ATMJun 11 23:10
schestowitzMy machine is vry well tuned to jobs I doJun 11 23:11
schestowitzJust spend the past 3 hours swapping over SSL certs on several serversJun 11 23:11
schestowitzThe old certd would have expired at midnightJun 11 23:11
schestowitz*CertsJun 11 23:11
sebsebsebschestowitz: uh what was that?Jun 11 23:11
schestowitzFor me to move to another system would be a lot of effortJun 11 23:11
sebsebsebyou can't what?Jun 11 23:11
sebsebsebtry out Mageia on real hardware at the moment?Jun 11 23:11
schestowitzHave been in the same KDE session since MarchJun 11 23:11
sebsebsebwell I was suggesting GoForbes28 try itJun 11 23:12
sebsebsebin what you quoted copied inJun 11 23:12
schestowitzlots os swap exhausted by now, to log out of KDE though would mean losing some state of workJun 11 23:12
sebsebsebschestowitz: Ok no proper test PC like me then?Jun 11 23:12
schestowitzLet's see if I can go on for years without leaving to the login screenJun 11 23:12
schestowitzNo outages here, it's a new builingJun 11 23:13
schestowitz[20:46] <cubezzz> Roy has a jobJun 11 23:15
schestowitzSeveralJun 11 23:15
schestowitzAbout 5 all in allJun 11 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Thrifty Drinker for the N900 - Miller Lite equivalencies for common drinks: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7310 #N900 #MaemoJun 11 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: MediaBox Home Widget for the Nokia N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7308 #N900 #MaemoJun 11 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: New XBMC Remote control application for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7307 #N900 #MaemoJun 11 23:26
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/75995467Jun 11 23:40
TechrightsBot-tr@Luis A. Morán Morales (lamm)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jun-11 17:24:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz #PuertoRico, "The Island of Enchantment", has plenty of -to borrow #HenryRollins' word- fuckedness to go around.Jun 11 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana Before the rest of us will permit that proposal to enter incubation we need full and frank discussions and a formal vote.Jun 11 23:41
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/79600646310998017 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/79600784706240512Jun 11 23:42
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz "PJ" promotes in the News Pick column a blog by an Apple fanboi patent lawyer who argues totally in favor of software patents.Jun 11 23:42
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz That shows how desperate that avatar is because my blog is the go-to blog on smartphone patent issues -- Groklaw is obsolete.Jun 11 23:42
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/79601150348898305Jun 11 23:43
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TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz Also see the unbelievable claim that it doesn't matter how many people Lodsys sues. Little guys sued at million-dollar costs!Jun 11 23:43
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/79600907553210368Jun 11 23:43
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz But that despair does not justify the promotion of a blog of someone who aggressively argues pro-software patents all the time.Jun 11 23:43
schestowitzWhat liarJun 11 23:43
schestowitzPJ posts links to anti-swpats peopleJun 11 23:43
schestowitzMaybe she linked to one that shows the oppositeJun 11 23:43
schestowitzAnd now he comes out of the blue trying to incite me against herJun 11 23:44
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/upurtweet/statuses/79621652354301952 :-)Jun 11 23:44
TechrightsBot-tr@upurtweet: @schestowitz thanks again for tweeting about gamingonlinux.com news :D, you should join us on the forum!Jun 11 23:44
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/brettglass/statuses/79666512738263040 :-'/Jun 11 23:44
TechrightsBot-tr@brettglass: @schestowitz There's absolutely nothing wrong with traffic shaping by ISPs.Jun 11 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just had a killer Internet / privacy discussion with the family. Man, that was painful.Jun 11 23:45
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