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DaemonFCschestowitz, Take the weiner, leave the cannoli Jun 13 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I need to see the Alien movies again....Jun 13 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Dylan on TV!Jun 13 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #IBM & #Oracle in Last Ditch Effort to Sideline #LibreOffice http://goo.gl/8xc7iJun 13 00:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Early Bob Dylan in front of a mic looks exactly like early Bruce. His eyes are exactly the same...Jun 13 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Now we are watching Snake Plissken, baby. GF has never seen it... :DJun 13 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] I really can't say which was worse, Battle LA or Skyline, but at least the later ended badly for human race (ending and sequel suggestion)Jun 13 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I have need of a surplus Claymore mine. Anyone have any laying around? @mo6020Jun 13 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I think Snake Plissken recycled the music from Tron.Jun 13 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bahrain Poet Beaten by friend of NATO no repercussions expected via @rms http://ur1.ca/4ex6fJun 13 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] On a similar theme, this week premiers Falling Skies. Let's hope a series helps make it right rather than corny salvation.Jun 13 00:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Escape from NY looks like Fallout New Vegas in places.....Jun 13 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The WTC is still there. !disturbing #SnakePlisskenJun 13 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Well I finally got around to installing !bitcoin now I just have to figure out how to use it :)Jun 13 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh So long since I saw that movie I can't even remember if it was any goodJun 13 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Skype Protocol Reverse Engineered http://lxnews.org/2011/06/12/skype-reverse-engineered/Jun 13 00:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This movie is so cheaply produced, it's pathetic..... LOLJun 13 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Posted this already but it's such good news it bears repeating » @lxnews: Skype Protocol Reverse Engineered http://twurl.nl/nhrmaoJun 13 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] In fact I might post that daily :)Jun 13 00:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fuck Fedora CLA SpamJun 13 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @joshix: @fabsh Exactly. Rules don't make right, sometimes they just make authorized wrong.Jun 13 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @joshix: OTOH, freesoft types are often exactly KindergJun 13 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And with that I'm having another glass of red wine, some Gibbon and then I'm off to bed. Screw you and the CoC you rode in on!Jun 13 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 10 minutes time a film about a marriage. Arse about face from divorce to first meeting. Anyway you look at it i am going to bed. #horrorfilmJun 13 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Posting from my new #!CB powered by Debian+liquorix zen kernel and 2cores+2threads Asus A52F :)Jun 13 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Because the human body starts behaving in an even more messed up than usual way without sleep.Jun 13 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh There is no more !Fedora #CLA so that thought makes no sense. :)Jun 13 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] duck typing for legal documents, brought to you by @bkuhnJun 13 01:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 10 minutes time a film about a marriage. Arse about face from divorce to first meeting. Anyway you look at it i am going to bed. #horrorfilmJun 12 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Posting from my new #!CB powered by Debian+liquorix zen kernel and 2cores+2threads Asus A52F :)Jun 12 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Because the human body starts behaving in an even more messed up than usual way without sleep.Jun 12 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fabsh There is no more !Fedora #CLA so that thought makes no sense. :)Jun 12 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] duck typing for legal documents, brought to you by @bkuhnJun 12 20:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[einfeldt/@einfeldt] .@lcafiero thinks u should wear your FOSS pride on your . . . ear? for @partimus http://t.co/FJRrycxJun 12 20:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiWars The Mission of Julian Assange’ airing NOW on CNN US-replay tonight at 11pm EST http://t.co/5FXuZNdJun 12 20:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[einfeldt/@einfeldt] RD @partimus thx 2 Partimus founder Maile Urbancic 4 making this awesome Ubuntu earring for a Partimus fundraiser! http://t.co/FJRrycxJun 12 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[einfeldt/@einfeldt] Now u can support free software in schools by buying a beautiful set of Ubuntu earrings! http://t.co/FJRrycxJun 12 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://t.co/sj3qsLfJun 12 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 212 million downloads on 2011-06-13 01:32 UTCJun 12 21:33
DaemonFChttp://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/06/12/2036248/Apple-Store-Employee-Attempts-To-Form-UnionJun 12 21:41
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DaemonFChttp://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/06/12/1639258/Apple-Sued-Over-Use-of-iCloud-NameJun 12 21:42
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DaemonFChttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/06/12/0527201/International-Monetary-Fund-Hit-By-Cyber-AttackJun 12 21:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] parseInt() javascript function is returning 0 for the strings "09" and "08". #angryJun 12 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jezra apparently *everyone* has that problemJun 12 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @jezra I'm sure you know why, but just in case: initial "0" is interpreted as indicating octal numbers.Jun 12 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @clacke I didn't know, thanks. Now I want to check other languages and see if they behave similarly.Jun 12 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Otter plays tag with child. What fun for both! http://uk.news.yahoo.com/otter-plays-tag-with-toddler.htmlJun 12 23:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @jezra JS inherited this behaviour from C numeric literals, anything C-related will probably have this lurking in some corners.Jun 13 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @clacke in that case, I should probably write a quick test for valaJun 13 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Watching a few scenes from /There Will be Blood/Jun 13 01:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] parseInt() javascript function is returning 0 for the strings "09" and "08". #angryJun 13 03:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jezra apparently *everyone* has that problemJun 13 03:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @jezra I'm sure you know why, but just in case: initial "0" is interpreted as indicating octal numbers.Jun 13 03:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @clacke I didn't know, thanks. Now I want to check other languages and see if they behave similarly.Jun 13 04:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Otter plays tag with child. What fun for both! http://uk.news.yahoo.com/otter-plays-tag-with-toddler.htmlJun 13 05:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @jezra JS inherited this behaviour from C numeric literals, anything C-related will probably have this lurking in some corners.Jun 13 05:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @clacke in that case, I should probably write a quick test for valaJun 13 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Watching a few scenes from /There Will be Blood/Jun 13 06:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Congratulations to Novara, back in Serie A after 55 years!Jun 13 06:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Speaking of Novara, I assisted former president against the following1 for team sale. Then I've been sued by client, I won. Messy.Jun 13 06:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #linux #kernel 3.0-rc2: Reported regressions from 2.6.39 http://bit.ly/kmc1Ji (7 unresolved) and 2.6.38 -> 2.6.39 http://bit.ly/jK6a4H (18)Jun 13 06:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Just posted today's Serialization: !Inconstant Moon Segment #17 http://ur1.ca/4f1g0 and *bonus* Segment #18 http://ur1.ca/4f1gi !NaNoWriMoJun 13 07:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] And no, the !Inconstant Moon eBook still not ready as I took the day to attend Guelph Write Now's DIY Publishing event http://ur1.ca/4f1hhJun 13 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] And went a-photographin' afterward, capturing this enchanting little wildflower http://ur1.ca/4f1iaJun 13 07:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] SelfPubbing author @DanielleGavan gave a great presentation on DIY publishing at the Guelph Write On (learning never ceases ;)Jun 13 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @nigeldgreen Is the day i had everything savedJun 13 08:02
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/paulblouin/status/80104655568388096Jun 13 08:16
TechrightsBot-tr@paulblouin: Good read on a sad topic, @schestowitz. #OpenSUSE Lacks Independence - http://bit.ly/kukb6t #GNU #Linux @novell @AttachmateJun 13 08:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean Who is your MIL?Jun 13 08:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good night !IdentiverseJun 13 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean sounds like a fabulous story ... but I am fading fast... chat tomorow ...gniteJun 13 08:38
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/brettglass/status/79955561717837824Jun 13 08:46
TechrightsBot-tr@brettglass: @schestowitz Again, argumentum ad hominem. I am not part of any "party." However, I know the realities of my business. You do not.Jun 13 08:46
schestowitzIt was not ad hominem. Look up the definition.Jun 13 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I'm shaving it for later" [IMG] http://ur1.ca/4f1s6Jun 13 08:47
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/brettglass/status/79955836256002048Jun 13 08:47
TechrightsBot-tr@brettglass: @schestowitz The Bells make money on telephony and SMS. They barely make anything on Internet. Often, they lose money on it.Jun 13 08:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/brettglass/status/79956662257070080Jun 13 08:47
TechrightsBot-tr@brettglass: @schestowitz Your agenda appears to be greed. You want something for nothing.Jun 13 08:47
schestowitzIf insulting potential customers is your strategy, no wonder you struggleJun 13 08:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/benevolentprof/status/80060812286369792Jun 13 08:48
TechrightsBot-tr@benevolentprof: MT @abramh ♺ @schestowitz: Trends from the #Eclipse Community Survey 2011 http://is.gd/z06sT5 > Stack Overflow #ftwJun 13 08:48
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/76080568Jun 13 08:48
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Sunday, 12-Jun-11 16:55:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz You have a 404 on The Linux desktop experience is killing Linux on the desktopJun 13 08:48
schestowitzDavid told me about it and I fixed itJun 13 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] After 40 Years, the Complete #PentagonPapers http://ur1.ca/4f1t7 All the crimes Nixon committed against me are now legal http://ur1.ca/4ew3vJun 13 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] POV Shows “The Most Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers” For Free Online http://ur1.ca/4f1teJun 13 08:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Anyone Can use the #GNU #Linux Operating System http://ur1.ca/4f1uy "provide...operating system by someone that knows what they are doing."Jun 13 09:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How #Canonical automates #Linux package compilation http://ur1.ca/4f1y7 More on the Panda Build system http://ur1.ca/4f1yi #ubuntuJun 13 09:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Linux #Kernel Power Issues Continues To Bite Users http://ur1.ca/4f1yt cue some developer accusing @phoronix of sensationalismJun 13 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to be a bad leader http://ur1.ca/4f1z7 "Gentoo is short on manpower. Yet, leaders feel comfortable to remove cvs access and demotivate"Jun 13 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to be a bad leader : Yet another open source blog ;-) .::. Size~: 57.83 KBJun 13 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Report: Facebook user growth slowing - http://cnet.co/mlrXtm are we nearing #Peak #Facebook? #socialnwsJun 13 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Techradar (not Linux site) to Linux: listen up, this is how you should do it: http://ur1.ca/4f20f response (ish) in http://ur1.ca/4f20cJun 13 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If/when !techrights writes less, it means that there is less FUD/attacks on FOSS for it to counter, which would be a good signJun 13 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] http://walyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/email-and-bacon-car.jpg #demotivational #email #bacon #iconsJun 13 09:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wearing your pride on your . . . ear? http://ur1.ca/4f22r "Ubuntu Earrings, $6 per pair" > thankfully, no people wear iEarrings, yet (Apple)Jun 13 09:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In Conversation with Julian #Assange - http://bit.ly/jDRPib very long & detailed interview - the deepest yet, full of ideas #wikileaksJun 13 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google searches help Bank of England predict changes in the UK economy - http://tnw.co/j5jfXf the #Database of Intentions strikes againJun 13 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @Elizabeth_Aston: 99¢ e-books destroy minds? http://bit.ly/medFak #myWANA #publishingJun 13 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Anonymous’ Operation #India removed from #Facebook and #Twitter - http://tnw.co/mSIXup this will end in tearsJun 13 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] SMEs fear not working again in government - http://bit.ly/jsuAR3 time to dish the dirt... #opensource (v @Mark_Antony)Jun 13 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Cool date for #fscons this year 11-11-11 http://www.fscons.org/ !fsfe will have a track there.Jun 13 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #RMS : "La 'ley Sinde' es tan injusta que debería ser desobedecida" - http://bit.ly/j16ACP Stallman en español #leysinde #acta #esJun 13 09:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Camcorder #Piracy Epidemic Forces Studios To Delay Screenings - http://bit.ly/lm77FG strange how all that #enforcement still isn't workingJun 13 09:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Watch: Awesome flying Japanese #robot chases a reporter - http://tnw.co/ls3KxA v impressive & rather disturbing #surveillance #ThePrisonerJun 13 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Luxembourg Co. Sues #Skype Over #VoIP Patents - http://bit.ly/kMmf0p good job #Microsoft *loves* patents so muchJun 13 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #LinkedIn spam you even after you unsubscribe, I'd advise either not joining, or use a temp emai, lJun 13 09:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] /me is thinking about closing his #LinkedIn account & reporting all incoming as the #spam it isJun 13 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Sitting at the core of the NX-10K is a Linux operating system on the appliance." http://ur1.ca/4f26vJun 13 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Richard Stallman Confirms His Visit to #Palestine - http://bit.ly/lID62g "#Israel's occupation policies are horrible"Jun 13 09:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @wayneborean Nice one..Jun 13 09:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @wayneborean: yup: let's just keep shooting this foot...Jun 13 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Fuck fedora-devel list. I'm going to bed.Jun 13 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Names not to call your cat. http://i.imgur.com/Sm73G.jpgJun 13 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IDG promotes its own propaganda."Full Disclosure:IDC is a sibling company to PCWorld, both of which subsidiaries of IDG" http://ur1.ca/4f295Jun 13 10:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Repost: What Can One Do When IDC Lies for #MSFT Money? http://ur1.ca/4f29e #idg #bsa #idc #propaganda #payToSay (sad that Red Hat paid too)Jun 13 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Publisher almost gets ebook pricing right. Told him where his problem is, we'll see if her adjusts: http://is.gd/FSVEcO #ebookJun 13 10:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "An issue not taken into account by IDC is Google's legal troubles relating to Android software patents" ~IDG. Gotta rub it in, aye? IDG=IDCJun 13 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [Old] #Microsoft prepares anti-Linux bundle of FUD with #IDC http://ur1.ca/4f2be #comesvsMicrosoft #blastfromthepastJun 13 10:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Good News – My Favourite Supplier is Now Pushing #Linux http://ur1.ca/4f2c1 usually it's not branded "Linux" (like the kernel), thoughJun 13 10:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dell spurns U.S. in launch of Android tablet in China http://ur1.ca/4f2ccm #Linux tablets sell well, except where Cult of AppleBrand existsJun 13 10:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana You know what I mean, Mr. Winkeladvokat. ;)Jun 13 10:22
koolhead11schestowitz, heyJun 13 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rcweir Open Document Format (ODF) advances in Russia, approved as national standard, migration plans starting. http://bit.ly/l0lfueJun 13 10:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CNews: Â Ðîññèè óñòðàíåí åùå îäèí áàðüåð íà ïóòè ÑÏÎ: íàöñòàíäàðò ODF âñòóïèë â äåéñòâèå .::. Size~: 101.75 KBJun 13 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canadian #ChamberofCommerce Justifies Fake Counterfeit Claims With More False Numbers http://ur1.ca/4f2em like when BSA+IDC liaise to lieJun 13 10:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Freedom of Expression on the Internet Cross-regional Statement http://ur1.ca/4f2ey no country seems to permit full freedom of expressionJun 13 10:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mdzimm: When conflict arises in an open source community, the question of who is "right" is probably the least useful one to askJun 13 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @akuckartz: #ODF in webbrowser using #JavaScript http://webodf.org/ #AGPLJun 13 10:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I'm sure the Fedora Politbüro wouldn't approve of my contribution style anyway...Jun 13 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WebODF - http://bit.ly/mUf2Gs "JavaScript library to add Open Document Format (#ODF) support to your website" neat (v @schestowitz)Jun 13 10:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @mcepl yeah, but unless all power is given to me (God forbid!) then I have to expect that some people will do things I consider stupid.Jun 13 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @zoobab #Lodsys LLC is a company installed in Marshall, Texas, what a coincidence: http://t.co/RRuc3CO >>reminds me of http://ur1.ca/4f2hkJun 13 10:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] How awesome is that! http://webodf.org/ is an #AGPL pure #javascript project for rendering #ODF to #HTML + #CSS /via @glynmoody @schestowitzJun 13 10:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NYT: U.S funds censor-evading Internet work - http://cnet.co/k2HHcp I just *love* how they never consider it might be used in the US itselfJun 13 10:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just got this by mail: "Here is an interview with Linus Torvalds at LinuxCon Japan: http://ur1.ca/4f2p6 "Jun 13 10:58
schestowitzI will embed this in Daily Links.Jun 13 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Some Bahrain citizens are being charged with illegally trying to change the government, they obviously live in the wrong country #LibyaJun 13 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Having to deal with a lot of annoying stuff to organise, ATM. Maybe my personal life needs a CoC....Jun 13 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jerezim #SansHadopi 12M€ du budget de l'État auraient pu être affectés à l'éducation, la justice, la culture, etc. en 2011.Jun 13 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Women on radio says sex offenders "should be put in the middle of nowhere"Jun 13 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My word of the day is analgesic.Jun 13 11:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Opinion! Why Linux distro repositories are not app stores: http://tinyurl.com/6keoobrJun 13 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How can IT facilitate content management for EU consumers? - http://bit.ly/kvcunY easy: #RF #openstandards, no #drm #daa11ipr (v @FFII)Jun 13 11:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RS @tuxradar: Opinion! Why !Linux distro repositories are not app stores: http://tinyurl.com/6keoobrJun 13 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Bitcoin: The Politics of A Virtual Currency http://twurl.nl/gewyqjJun 13 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Do we still need the #FSF, #GNU and #GPL? - http://bit.ly/jOiGzR provocative, moi?Jun 13 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] James Goodale: Is WikiLeaks guilty of Conspiracy to Commit Journalism? http://t.co/cRFrEPlJun 13 11:47
schestowitzIntel's filthy behaviour persistsJun 13 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Intel and #Microsoft Attack Freedom of Software Developers by Defending/Lobbying for Software Patents in #NewZealand http://ur1.ca/4f34wJun 13 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Intel and Microsoft Attack Freedom of Software Developers by Defending/Lobbying for Software Patents http://ur1.ca/4f34w #nz #swpatsJun 13 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Quoth @bkuhn to me: Apache-2.0 is a permissive license w/ an #swpats clause - re, http://twurl.nl/l1qhvc « Correcting my earlier postJun 13 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RS @schestowitz: #Intel & #Microsoft Attack Freedom of Software Devs by Lobbying for Software Patents in #NewZealand http://ur1.ca/4f34wJun 13 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Gaming Industry Hacks Continue with Codemasters http://lxnews.org/2011/06/13/codemasters-hacked/Jun 13 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Obama is conducting a misguided effort to criminalize journalism—and should fail - James Goodale ttp://bit.ly/jB7nmXJun 13 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Keep our supporters strong: call the Lanon foundation and tell them that this is not acceptable: http://t.co/cuFqrkVJun 13 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] What are Bitcoins? http://lxnews.org/2011/06/13/what-are-bitcoins/Jun 13 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Do we still need the !FSF, !GNU and !GPL? by @GlynMoody http://twurl.nl/wt5gofJun 13 12:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Turkish police arrest 32 Anonymous anti-censorship protestors http://t.co/Mkt3TPQJun 13 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: Do we still need the #FSF, #GNU and #GPL? - http://bit.ly/jOiGzR provocative, moi?Jun 13 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ah! Coffee! :DJun 13 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Computers control civilization. As this generation and its ideals takes all computing jobs, revolution.Jun 13 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] People of HTML5 – Seb Lee Delisle http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/06/people-of-html5-seb-lee-delisle/Jun 13 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Stateless ‘Bidun’ Denied Rights http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2011/06/13/kuwait-stateless-bidun-denied-rights #tpn #anon #kuwaitJun 13 12:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Testing Turpial.Jun 13 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Barclays to settle #PPI claims 'no questions asked' http://is.gd/osGnXT next week they'll announce a round of fee increases #coincidenceJun 13 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh The Great God Om exists, the book of Brutha said so, Brutha met him in the shell #SmallGods #Discworld ;PJun 13 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This !Bitcoin banning is just the latest episode in the saga of the USA declaring itself AntiGlobalist, Anti Free Speech & Anti Free MarketJun 13 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This US anti Freedom stance started with the RIAA but it's rapidly spreading lately. It's very discouragingJun 13 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Singularity Hub : Pool Playing Robot Shoots Five Billiard Balls in a Row (video) http://ping.fm/QSlr6Jun 13 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Engadget : #Nintendo 3DS has resistive touchscreen for backwards compatibility, what's the #Wii U's excuse? http://engt.co/lIIq2NJun 13 12:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Mageia 1 Released http://lxnews.org/2011/06/13/mageia-1-released/Jun 13 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] IDG Blames Carriers Amid Strategic Shift at Microsoft: Don’t Sell Windows Phones, Tax Linux Instead http://ur1.ca/4f3jq #android #swpatsJun 13 12:53
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/76147809Jun 13 12:54
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Monday, 13-Jun-11 10:46:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I'm slightly surprised by Intel; not quite sure what they actually have to gainJun 13 12:54
schestowitzExactly, I thought the same thing. They mostly sell hardware, not even compilers anymore.Jun 13 12:54
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/76147853Jun 13 12:55
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Monday, 13-Jun-11 10:47:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz In other words, I'm looking for the grinding axe :)Jun 13 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #IDG Blames Carriers Amid Strategic Shift at Microsoft: Don’t Sell #Windows Phones, Tax Linux Instead http://ur1.ca/4f3jq #Microsoft #FUDJun 13 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Nintendo uses resistive screens for the Wii U? Another lame move by Nintendo...Jun 13 12:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/nza1/status/80227020465909760Jun 13 12:55
TechrightsBot-tr@nza1: @normnz You know our multi-National-friendly govt will do what they ask. #FriesWithThat ? @schestowitzJun 13 12:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EvolvingCitizen/status/80207860545503232Jun 13 12:56
TechrightsBot-tr@EvolvingCitizen: @schestowitz Great! Thank you, I hope to see you there, it will also be virtual if u can't make it to SOAS :)Jun 13 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RedHat CEO is at least techy, can you imagine #Ballmer or #Jobs compiling their own kernel patches? I don't even do that !loJun 13 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Senators seek crackdown on !Bitcoin http://twurl.nl/bk14rh via @marjoleinkJun 13 12:58
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ozarkhello schestowitz, im starbuck from netrunner, but since starbuck is already taken, i wanted to register ozark... well how do i finish the registration, when im afraid, that i did a typo in my current email adress, so i do not get a confirmation mail ? can i see what email i currently have set? any way to change that email since i cant confirm the wrong one because its not a valid email?Jun 13 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RD @thistleweb #RedHat CEO is at least techy, can you imagine #Ballmer or #Jobs compiling their own kernel patches? I don't even do that #loJun 13 13:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] No SWAP Partition, Journaling Filesystems, … on a SSD? http://bit.ly/mZsp !LinuxJun 13 13:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Android to Dominate Market in the Summer http://lxnews.org/2011/06/13/android-to-dominate-the-summer/Jun 13 13:10
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schestowitzozark: what did he mean?...........Jun 13 13:11
schestowitzno idea... but he leftJun 13 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #France and the United Kingdom Want to Drown in Software Patents Sea of Risk http://ur1.ca/4f3t #uk #swpats #eu #peertopatentJun 13 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] France and the United Kingdom Want to Drown in Software Patents Sea of Risk http://ur1.ca/4f3t #epo #usipo #imperialism #lawJun 13 13:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Linux: Not for (Married) Lovers? http://bit.ly/kJm1dT #linuxJun 13 13:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] TDF public steering committee calls now at fixed times for better planning: http://is.gd/N2blbU !tdfJun 13 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Search for a book, get a virtual bookshelf of suggestions http://www.springwise.com/retail/shelfluv/Jun 13 13:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice Marketing Phone Conference on June 22nd at 1500 UTC: http://is.gd/57l7Ck !libo !tdfJun 13 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla Staff Explains That #NetApplications Gives Skewed #Firefox Measures http://ur1.ca/4f3y9 #stats #gnu #linuxJun 13 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Mozilla Staff Explains That NetApplications Gives Skewed Firefox Measures http://ur1.ca/4f3y9 #netapps #fud #marketshareJun 13 13:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My relationship with software patents [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/pKIBQ.jpgJun 13 13:48
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TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 13-Jun-11 12:25:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz That is a twitter link.Jun 13 13:49
schestowitzoops.Jun 13 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Linux Filesystems for Modern SSDs http://bit.ly/llLMOl #wearJun 13 13:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #France and the United Kingdom Want to Drown in Software Patents Sea of Risk http://ur1.ca/4f3th #uk #swpats #eu #peertopatentJun 13 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] France and the United Kingdom Want to Drown in Software Patents Sea of Risk http://ur1.ca/4f3th #epo #usipo #imperialism #lawJun 13 13:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Three tired marketing words you should stop using | http://red.ht/joBycs #community #trust #opensourceJun 13 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Reasons why I cut my hair: the heat in #PuertoRico is absolutely oppressive! Must now headbang sans hair. \m/ #heavymetalJun 13 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Aussie Anti-Piracy Group Backflips On 3 Strikes Backflip - http://bit.ly/kt4LXB as clear as mud #3strikes #auJun 13 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @opensourceway Three tired marketing words you should stop using | http://red.ht/joBycs #community #trust #opensourceJun 13 14:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Is it just me, or is #gthumb is segfaulting constantly in !Trisquel #Slaine?Jun 13 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @x11r5 Linuxninjas.tv: 20:15:01 up 224 days, 13:15, 2 users, load average: 2.53, 2.47, 2.29Jun 13 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Testing #mustard RC on #honeycomb.Jun 13 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Cory Doctorow on Techno-optimism (Locus Online Perspectives) | http://bit.ly/kMDPRAJun 13 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] When I google "mustard" I get the immediate suggestion of "mustard gas". WTF Google, WTF....Jun 13 14:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @andyc Grolsch ring pull failure. Non catastrophic.Jun 13 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] !kubuntu #natty #failwhale lives on - now KMail/Kontact fails to communicate with KWallet. hilarity ensues. -_-'Jun 13 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @x11r5 @alpacaherder In studies, people who slept adequately after studying a new podcastJun 13 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Listening to @conniptions and eating dinner. :)Jun 13 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @rahulsundaram: The Decline and Fall of OpenOffice.org http://bit.ly/mrtH8p // LibreOffice++Jun 13 14:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Thinking about founding a #B5 style #Nightwatch organisation for our street to deal with the urchin problem.Jun 13 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] What should you answer to the following? "Are you human? What is the result of : 2 + 2 ?"... could be 4... could be 5... hmmmmJun 13 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Wave function directly measured (Science News): http://bit.ly/lR0ahpJun 13 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] 17 things we'd change about names in #Linux http://bit.ly/l0hSsSJun 13 15:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Do we still need the FSF, GNU and GPL? http://bit.ly/kdOcivJun 13 15:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The US whistleblowers of 1777 http://t.co/y7JhvzlJun 13 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] openSUSE for clinics and doctors’ practices http://bit.ly/jpyk3KJun 13 15:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Whopping Patch Tuesday coming up tomorrow ... http://bit.ly/kF2kySJun 13 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Kilpuri - 3D car racing game for the N900 with OpenGL and bullet physics engine: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=7322 #N900 #MaemoJun 13 15:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "And then, one day, I got in...." #DaftPunk #TronJun 13 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] GNU Tools Make Up 8% of a Modern Distribution http://lxnews.org/2011/06/13/gnu-8-percent-of-modern-distro/Jun 13 15:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yes!!! My undeletable starred items are FINALLY gone from Google Reader. :DJun 13 15:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Boston support group for WikiLeaks started http://t.co/BxyIUnKJun 13 15:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] I agree with pretty much all of "The Decline and Fall of OpenOffice.org" in Linux Magazine: http://wmk.me/if8OQ3Jun 13 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] DerezzedJun 13 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Just read through the "credits" on an Apple TV. It includes a load of code under the GPL and LGPL. So much for those licenses being "toxic".Jun 13 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wed, 15: Protest the WikiLeaks show trial http://t.co/E28GBIKJun 13 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Doing LO prep. @methoddan news are incoming.... :DJun 13 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] A field guide to bullshit http://bit.ly/mnp933Jun 13 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] #iCloud Doesn't Just Work (My Linux Rig) | http://bit.ly/kdKk5W #opensource #opendataJun 13 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] apparently duke nukem forever is the #1 game in the UK and has been all week...Jun 13 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @webmink Just read through the "credits" on an Apple TV. It includes a load of code under the GPL and LGPL. So much for those license ...Jun 13 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RD @webmink Just "credits" on an Apple TV. It includes a load of code under the GPL and LGPL. So much for those licenses being "toxic".Jun 13 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @tekk Any Linux version in the works ? Perhaps ?Jun 13 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Community Concepts: Ubiquitous Firefox, Part 2: Solving Tab Proliferation http://mozillalabs.com/conceptseries/2011/06/13/community-conceptsJun 13 15:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning !IdentiverseJun 13 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @tekk Sure, I still play it to this day. They hit the nail with the DOS one. This new one, I don't know.Jun 13 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Southeast LinuxFest doesn't have to end | http://red.ht/kapYEQ #self2011Jun 13 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Stand Up 4 !Wikileaks "If we do nothing, we risk losing the rest of our freedom and privacy"~ Civic Counsel http://ur1.ca/4f5m5 !freeBradleyJun 13 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk :)Jun 13 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @tekk But ya know, these days, they put a lot of $$$ on the games, and they don't want bad reviews. I'm not sure if it can live up to itsJun 13 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @tekk glorious past...Jun 13 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] !ManUtd is delighted to announce it has signed an agreement with Blackburn Rovers for the transfer of Phil Jones. http://gotu.me/4Jun 13 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RD @vanden “Golf is a good walk spoiled.” Mark TwainJun 13 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @lxnews as long as you make up rules to count only part of GNU so that it doesn't beat Linux by much, that is...Jun 13 15:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @tekk Speaking of drivers, Nvidia's drivers were the best, and ATI never came close. How about now ? (including Intel)Jun 13 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @lxnews accounts that don't aim at a result reveal a very different reality http://lwn.net/Articles/445646/Jun 13 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @tekk Ohhh, I got an Intel too, i3 integrated HD gfx. Can I play these 3D games too ?Jun 13 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Do we still need the !FSF, !GNU and #GPL? @glynmoody piece at http://ur1.ca/4f34hJun 13 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Backlash as beloved TowerBridge Twitter account is passed to ‘rightful’ owners - http://tnw.co/mat4cd ah, #trademark stupidities...Jun 13 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Mention GNU, get trolled. I love it. /ignoremodeJun 13 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Due to brevity of 17 posted double for today's Serialization #17 http://ur1.ca/4f1g0 and *bonus* Segment #18 http://ur1.ca/4f1gi !SelfPub :)Jun 13 16:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Gave my 86 year old mystery-loving aunt a copy of #InconstantMoon ... curious if the modern day tech will make it hard for her to followJun 13 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fabsh identica: the movie?Jun 13 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Listening to Clapton. I don't do this much. #WhiteRoomJun 13 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Terry Pratchett initiates assisted suicide process - http://ur1.ca/4f5uaJun 13 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Europe Considers Using CETA To Create "#ACTA Plus" - http://bit.ly/lrkr4T oh look: the intellectual monopoly ratchet again #caJun 13 16:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] :( RD @ruiseabra Terry Pratchett initiates assisted suicide process - http://ur1.ca/4f5uaJun 13 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Now on to Dr. Hook & The Medicine Show #BetterThanTheBeatlesJun 13 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RD @mo6020 Tumblr is full of naked chicks and gifs.Jun 13 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk What I've been told, even though one version the Smashwords Meatgrinder does is the .mobi Amazon requires writers to do it their wayJun 13 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk But I don't yet have 1st hand experience here, so I don't *know*Jun 13 16:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox4 reached 213 million downloads on 2011-06-13 15:12 UTCJun 13 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @LifeinSicily 57% of Italians voted & 95% disagree legal immunity for politicians: not good for #Berlusconi #Referendum2011 v @modicanetJun 13 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Queen of the Silver Dollar - fuck yeah! #rocknrollJun 13 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk thing is, doctorow is on a different plane from debut novelistsJun 13 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Since I regularly forget how to pronounce "amicus": http://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/23/magazine/when-a-justice-needs-a-friend.htmlJun 13 16:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] When We Are – How the Digital Market changes as Society does - http://bit.ly/mdBlBR lots of familiar ideas here (none the worse for that)Jun 13 16:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @fabsh: :( RD @ruiseabra Terry Pratchett initiates assisted suicide process - http://ur1.ca/4f5uaJun 13 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺@webmink: Just read through the "credits" on an Apple TV. It includes a load of code under the GPL and LGPL.So much for those being "toxic"Jun 13 16:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Ooops I did it again... http://rys.io/en/12Jun 13 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] rt @shot rządzący od 1304 dni premier twierdzi, że nie będzie klękał przed księdzem; ja od 1325 dni nie mogę robić zakupów w Zielone ŚwiątkiJun 13 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RD @andyc "I'm not saying they (Oracle) are devious" Are you serious ? I am absolutely convinced they are devious and understood the ASL.Jun 13 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Home Tab and New Tab Conceptual Mockups http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2011/06/10/home-tab-and-new-tab-conceptual-mockups/Jun 13 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer..." !listening @20lbJun 13 16:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #eG8 Publishes Report in Noninteractive, Nonquotable Format - http://on.wsj.com/kYymWQ *this* is #Sarko's "civilisation": look, don't touchJun 13 17:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] < back to the grindJun 13 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] brewed a weak pot of coffee, averted disaster by using the weak coffee to brew a stronger pot of coffee. #doublebrewJun 13 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] James Bessen on the Great Stagnation - http://bit.ly/mDYQ7z interesting #interview with author of "#patent failure"Jun 13 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RD @jezra brewed a weak pot of coffee, averted disaster by using the weak coffee to brew a stronger pot of coffee. #doublebrewJun 13 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Why are Dell only offering RHEL 6 or Ubuntu on some models but only in some regions?Jun 13 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 40 years ago today (June 13 1971) the Pentagon Papers started to be publishedJun 13 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ARM-specific code now 3x that of the x86 stuff. !LO http://outl.ws/1wJun 13 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Dustin Kirkland interviewed about the Ubuntu Cloud - http://is.gd/mbwbIs #ubuntuJun 13 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Interested in the Ubuntu Cloud? Follow us on Facebook at http://is.gd/UeNNER and on Twitter with @ubuntucloudJun 13 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] double brewed http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110613 #sip_and_clickJun 13 17:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Is Ubuntu's Cloud the uCloud? Why not go all in with the buzzwords?Jun 13 17:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Why Does the #Linux Desktop So Lack Proprietary Apps? http://bit.ly/lgA8agJun 13 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jezra: @x1101 scaffolded vertical market synergy leveraging modular cloudJun 13 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @fabsh: ♺ @jezra: @x1101 scaffolded vertical market synergy leveraging modular cloudJun 13 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @newbintraining: @reality Insanedcloud.Jun 13 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: Everything ready for live !lo at 7pm UK (6pm UTC). Getting food and sorting myself out now as well :)Jun 13 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Get well soon, Big Man! :/Jun 13 17:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/koolhead17/status/80255188572712960Jun 13 17:47
TechrightsBot-tr@koolhead17: @schestowitz you could have got a better bin with non-chinese writing on it. :DJun 13 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Nasty American Terrorist Organization (NATO) have a black ship in Black Sea. Russia protests.I hope they sink it. 2tu.us/3d8z #wargamesJun 13 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I find it bizarre that ISPs are trolling me in Twitter even though I did nothing against them really, just advocated net/packet neutralityJun 13 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Swimming 3 days in a row now, getting back into it because the weather is too disgusting for running/biking ಠ_ಠJun 13 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Aaaaaaaa..... Need coffee but can't get up too tired someone help me oh god--------------------Jun 13 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Do we still need the FSF, GNU and GPL? (Spoiler: Yes!) (The H Open Source) | http://bit.ly/mAQpxzJun 13 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Gulli.com: 10 Strategien die Gesellschaft zu manipulieren http://bit.ly/mTktM2Jun 13 18:08
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schestowitzHi, FaitherJun 13 18:11
schestowitzHow's it going, Mister Arch guruJun 13 18:11
FaitherHiya schestowitz!Jun 13 18:11
FaitherI'm fine thanks, how are you?Jun 13 18:12
Faitherand hardly at home lately  ^^Jun 13 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Tonight! Stellar panel on education @ tonight's CC Salon SF @pariSoma, free! Or catch livestream at 7pm PST http://bit.ly/5sa7lJun 13 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ahhh! Coffee!Jun 13 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Apache votes to accept OpenOffice.org for incubation http://lwn.net/Articles/447295/rssJun 13 18:25
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schestowitzOK, back to coding with cyrus. work is quiet today (was not on Sat and Sun, ongoing maintenance), so should be doable.Jun 13 18:25
schestowitzFaither: I'm OKJun 13 18:25
schestowitzTrying to complie some programJun 13 18:25
schestowitzNot going so easilyJun 13 18:26
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schestowitzFaither: hardly at home, how come?Jun 13 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @pla1 Adding ".nomedia" empty file to a directory keeps media in that directory out of the !Android music player.Jun 13 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Tiny Linux Plug PC Offers a Cloud Computing Alternative http://bit.ly/mTxJrC #linuxJun 13 18:28
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ender_33DaemonFC - LOL not getting an ATI CardJun 13 18:30
DaemonFC?Jun 13 18:30
DaemonFCok, they're the only real GPU series with any credible open source driverJun 13 18:31
ender_33looking at a geforce 560iJun 13 18:31
DaemonFCIntel is OK if you want 10 fps on 6 year old gamesJun 13 18:31
ender_33it smokes the 6870Jun 13 18:31
DaemonFCmeh, suit yourself, if you want Nvidia's broken binary driverJun 13 18:31
ender_33its not broken for meJun 13 18:32
DaemonFCI don't think it will ever be possible to run Wayland on that Jun 13 18:32
ender_33i dont plan to run canonical waylandJun 13 18:32
DaemonFCin fact, proprietary drivers are the biggest stumbling block for Wayland, and you know Fedora won't hold back just on their accountJun 13 18:32
ender_33im looking at gaming performanceJun 13 18:32
DaemonFCWayland isn't a Canonical project, they just try to make it sound like that through PR even though they aren't really doing anything for that project at allJun 13 18:33
DaemonFCthey'll swipe it once it's writtenJun 13 18:33
ender_33nvidia will have stuff that worksJun 13 18:33
DaemonFCfree drivers will get you Wayland with a legacy rootless X ServerJun 13 18:34
DaemonFCNvidia and FGLRX will get you X running as root with Wayland running underneath that Jun 13 18:34
ender_33but ill be paying almost the same amount of money for a card that runs twice as slowJun 13 18:34
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ender_33that doesn't make senseJun 13 18:35
ender_33just because its free?Jun 13 18:35
DaemonFCwell, benchmark sites like to benchmark the Windows driversJun 13 18:35
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DaemonFCthe Linux binary drivers can be a completely different storyJun 13 18:36
ender_33thats where the games are that don't suckJun 13 18:36
ender_33I didn't notice duke nukem forever for linux was out ;)Jun 13 18:36
DaemonFChttp://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics-charts/compare,2662.html?prod[4974]=on&prod[4852]=onJun 13 18:37
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ender_33toms hardwareJun 13 18:37
ender_33failJun 13 18:38
DaemonFCand that's not even a 6000 series RadeonJun 13 18:38
ender_33thats tomshardwareJun 13 18:38
ender_33FAILJun 13 18:38
ender_33thats the fox news of ITJun 13 18:39
ender_33http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/GPU/GTX560-1GB/GTX560-1GB-40.jpgJun 13 18:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana They aren't even mentioned in the FaiF book. Author did not approach Gosling AFAIK.Jun 13 18:40
DaemonFCNvidia doesn't even bother saying what OpenGL version it supportsJun 13 18:40
DaemonFCbut they do say it is "built for DirectX 11"Jun 13 18:40
ender_33http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-275.33-whql-driver.htmlJun 13 18:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NVIDIA DRIVERS 275.33 WHQL .::. Size~: 26.93 KBJun 13 18:42
ender_33noobJun 13 18:42
ender_33Supports OpenGL 4.1 on GeForce 400 series and later GPUs.Jun 13 18:42
DaemonFCWHQLJun 13 18:42
DaemonFCBallmer bless these binariesJun 13 18:42
ender_33The hardware supports it :PJun 13 18:42
DaemonFCand forgive them their DRM trespasses Jun 13 18:42
ender_33Stop being a zealot, im buying this for PC gamingJun 13 18:43
ender_33not linux gamingJun 13 18:43
ender_33which doesnt existJun 13 18:43
DaemonFCwell, it is nice to see that Nvidia finally has something that supports the latest APIsJun 13 18:43
DaemonFC2 years laterJun 13 18:43
ender_33this card also doesn't run at a higher temp than the sunJun 13 18:43
DaemonFCDirectX 11 TP was floating around early 2009Jun 13 18:43
DaemonFCAMD supported it before Windows 7 launchedJun 13 18:43
ender_33ATI said they were running versions of directx that were FICTIONALJun 13 18:44
DaemonFCas for OpenGL, Nvidia was stuck at 3.1 for a long time Jun 13 18:44
DaemonFCwhen did they modernize that?Jun 13 18:44
DaemonFCor do they just mean their driver supports stuff that's not in hardware to be ran on the CPU?Jun 13 18:44
DaemonFCno, I believe them when they say the OpenGL 4.1 support is legit since they already need most of the hardware for that to run DirectX 11Jun 13 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Almost did a big personal #fail by leaving my wallet well visible inside the car. Fortunately no miscreants abound.Jun 13 18:45
DaemonFCnow watch them do the same thing next time, they won't support OpenGL 5 until DirectX 12 outJun 13 18:46
ender_33I'm not going to downgrade my duke nukem experience just to get free drivers when there aren't any gamesJun 13 18:46
DaemonFCtheir OpenGL support always lags behind the DirectX supportJun 13 18:46
ender_33i dont careJun 13 18:46
ender_33duke doesn't use openglJun 13 18:47
DaemonFCDuke Nukem Forever, probably with SecuROM limiting it to 3 installs, mandatory internet connection, and disc in the driveJun 13 18:47
DaemonFCthat's how most of these games are nowJun 13 18:47
ender_33nah its steamJun 13 18:47
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ender_33I fixed my secureguard problem tooJun 13 18:47
DaemonFCthat's even worse in some waysJun 13 18:47
ender_33steam is fineJun 13 18:47
DaemonFCwhat happens 10 years from now if Valve doesn't exist and you want to play your games?Jun 13 18:48
ender_33if valve doesn't exist?Jun 13 18:48
ender_33that's a big IFJun 13 18:48
DaemonFCyeah, these companies go in and out of business like crazyJun 13 18:48
DaemonFCdo you really trust that their DRM server will be running forever?Jun 13 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RD @rozzin #Historic !usenet, re-enacted in real #time, for the next 10 years..., until 1991: http://ur1.ca/4cpui < cc @bkuhnJun 13 18:48
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ender_33they're more likely to stay in business as a general publisher vs being a devJun 13 18:49
DaemonFCwell, the concept of Steam isn't really that unique Jun 13 18:49
DaemonFCunless they're protecting it with patents or something they could face competitionJun 13 18:49
ender_33they do face competitionJun 13 18:49
ender_33stardock has a shitty program to competeJun 13 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/447272/rssJun 13 18:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security advisories for Monday [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.79 KBJun 13 18:50
ender_33all I care is that tomorrow my 12 years of waiting is overJun 13 18:50
DaemonFCender_33, I'm one of those people that says without an install disc and no DRM (or the ability to easily break through it if needs be), I don't want itJun 13 18:50
DaemonFCI've never bought anything from Steam, and I won'tJun 13 18:51
ender_33im going to kick some ass and chew some bubble gumJun 13 18:51
ender_33your lossJun 13 18:51
ender_33you'll soon be game-lessJun 13 18:51
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DaemonFCyes, the software industry has gotten more abusive of their users lately Jun 13 18:51
DaemonFCespecially gamesJun 13 18:51
DaemonFCit's just like why I never bought anything from itunes Jun 13 18:52
ender_33steam is a little differentJun 13 18:52
ender_33only requires a login and internet connectionJun 13 18:52
DaemonFChow is steam any different from Apple Foulplay DRMJun 13 18:52
DaemonFCI mean, fundamentally differentJun 13 18:52
ender_33even steamguard isn't a problem with the correct email accountJun 13 18:53
ender_33I've had steam since Half life 2 launchedJun 13 18:53
ender_33experienced 1 issue, due to old info in my profileJun 13 18:53
DaemonFCsee, they couldn't keep up appearances that you actually bought anything when it was so obvious that your files could stop working or not play in other softwareJun 13 18:53
ender_33i've reinstalled tons of timesJun 13 18:53
DaemonFCor on other player hardwareJun 13 18:53
DaemonFCpeople seem to fall for the same dirty tricks when it comes to SteamJun 13 18:54
ender_33what dirty tricksJun 13 18:54
ender_33steam isnt hardware restrictiveJun 13 18:54
DaemonFCyou have no ability to use the software outside of steamJun 13 18:54
DaemonFCyou have no right to make back upsJun 13 18:54
ender_33I have the original disksJun 13 18:54
DaemonFCif you lose your steam login, you lose everything you paid for immediatelyJun 13 18:55
DaemonFCif steam goes out of business, you lose everythingJun 13 18:55
ender_33I don't want to play outside of steamJun 13 18:55
ender_33i want it to track my achievementsJun 13 18:55
DaemonFCif their steam servers go down, you can't play your single player gamesJun 13 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Getting ready to rant about CoCs on !LO live.....Jun 13 18:55
ender_33there is a steam cache for offline modeJun 13 18:55
ender_33they would have to go out of businessJun 13 18:55
DaemonFCalso, don't they limit you to one installation of a software title?Jun 13 18:56
DaemonFCif you lend your steam login to a friend, won't they ban it?Jun 13 18:56
DaemonFCthere's many reason not to support SteamJun 13 18:56
DaemonFC:)Jun 13 18:56
DaemonFCand only one reason to support itJun 13 18:57
DaemonFCinstant gratification without considering the long term effectsJun 13 18:57
ender_3313:51 < DaemonFC> if you lend your steam login to a friend, won't they ban it?Jun 13 18:57
ender_33if they catch you they could I guessJun 13 18:57
DaemonFCand as usual, the DRM protects nothing because go to any torrent site and search portal 2Jun 13 18:57
DaemonFCwhich is newJun 13 18:57
ender_33i wouldnt do something stupid like thatJun 13 18:58
DaemonFCand see how many people broke it out of Steam and made a standalone installerJun 13 18:58
DaemonFC"piracy" is mostly rampant because you know it will stay working and you can back it up onto some real storage device Jun 13 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Fedora 13 end of life on 2011-06-24 http://lwn.net/Articles/447305/rssJun 13 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] I don't much care about top- vs bottom posting but bottom-posting on a thread that's all top-posted (and vice versa) is evil.Jun 13 18:58
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ender_33I don't support video game piratesJun 13 18:59
DaemonFCthey've tried to snuff out "piracy" and onl managed to throw gasoline onto the fireJun 13 18:59
DaemonFCthey deserve to choke on their greed and lose salesJun 13 18:59
ender_33just cause its harder for you to steal?Jun 13 18:59
DaemonFCno, it's just as easy as everJun 13 19:00
DaemonFCbut why pay for abuse?Jun 13 19:00
DaemonFCif I want to pay for abuse I'll go pay a dominatrix to whip me and call me a bad boy before I'll go support crapware like Valve steamJun 13 19:00
ender_33i dont see how its abuse to pay for something you enjoy doingJun 13 19:00
DaemonFCI think DRM is always unethical and unacceptableJun 13 19:01
DaemonFCif they DRM something, I'll not use it or go out of my way to "steal" itJun 13 19:01
ender_33can't play a stolen game onlineJun 13 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana I agree, especially in the minds of people pre-disposed to BSD-ism.Jun 13 19:02
DaemonFCthe only difference is I may have bought it if they hadn't treated me like a criminal for doing the right thingJun 13 19:02
DaemonFCtheir faultJun 13 19:02
ender_33their fault?Jun 13 19:03
ender_33lolJun 13 19:03
DaemonFCyesJun 13 19:03
ender_33freeloaders shouldnt get a free rideJun 13 19:03
DaemonFCthey cause a lot of their own "piracy"Jun 13 19:03
DaemonFCender_33, If I see a game I like that doesn't have DRM, I'll pay for itJun 13 19:03
DaemonFCif not, then I won'tJun 13 19:03
ender_33you won't find any that are any goodJun 13 19:04
DaemonFCmehJun 13 19:04
DaemonFCthat's my policyJun 13 19:04
DaemonFCwhy reward bad behavior?Jun 13 19:04
ender_33you reward bad behavior everydayJun 13 19:04
ender_33why being moral all of a suddenJun 13 19:04
DaemonFCwillfully?Jun 13 19:04
ender_33yeahJun 13 19:05
DaemonFCok, I'll biteJun 13 19:05
DaemonFChow?Jun 13 19:05
ender_33you're cooperating with the governmentJun 13 19:05
DaemonFCuhhhm, yeah, because they have an army, a giant police force, and you know nuclear weapons and I have, myself and a catJun 13 19:06
DaemonFChow do I not cooperate with that?Jun 13 19:06
ender_33the whole reason I support open source operating systems and applications is because I know the government won't be able to hide codeJun 13 19:06
ender_33the same fear doesn't apply to my gamingJun 13 19:06
DaemonFChow do you know they don't hide malware in Duke Nukem ForeverJun 13 19:06
DaemonFCor Steam?Jun 13 19:06
DaemonFCand you have to run that on Windows, right?Jun 13 19:06
DaemonFC:)Jun 13 19:06
ender_33if they want to monitor me via duke nukem they can go aheadJun 13 19:06
ender_33they'll see how serious I amJun 13 19:07
ender_33:PJun 13 19:07
DaemonFCwith Windows you're in for a penny in for a poundJun 13 19:07
DaemonFCcrapware coated in DRM is the normJun 13 19:07
DaemonFCeven if not, it's usually still proprietaryJun 13 19:07
ender_33they're called video gamesJun 13 19:07
DaemonFCyou can't trust a thing on the system, not even FirefoxJun 13 19:07
DaemonFCbecause Microsoft installs trojans that take it over tooJun 13 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] (Manuel Jose) 5 Useful Compiz Tweaks for !Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal http://ping.fm/AHOhNJun 13 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @rbanffy "Dilma cede e decide manter sigilo eterno" de documentos do governo http://ig.com/6B2 #sarney #collor #dilmaJun 13 19:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 5 Useful Compiz Tweaks for Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 52.69 KBJun 13 19:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Aliados devem frustrar plano de Dilma para documentos sigilosos - Política - iG .::. Size~: 49.89 KBJun 13 19:09
DaemonFCyou know I could tolerate Windows Vista and Outlook and MS Office when I had to for work, because there's no point preaching to the Microsoft choir in ITJun 13 19:09
DaemonFCso I went about my day and only used them for work-stuffJun 13 19:09
DaemonFCand took a nice hot shower when I got homeJun 13 19:09
DaemonFCwash off the slimeJun 13 19:10
ender_33lolJun 13 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Linus Torvalds threatens to cut off #ARM - http://bit.ly/l2DNYB in the nicest possible way, of course #kernelJun 13 19:10
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ender_33I'm a right tool for the job type of guyJun 13 19:10
DaemonFCpeople confuse "tolerate" and "accept" because the meaning of the words has been made synonymous through propaganda and ignorance Jun 13 19:10
ender_33home im using solaris for file serving, linux for my netbook and dual for my desktopJun 13 19:11
DaemonFCI can "tolerate" a bad head cold because I have no other choiceJun 13 19:11
ender_33well in regards to pc gaming, there is no other choiceJun 13 19:11
DaemonFCI can "tolerate" my grandmother but I don't enjoy her company (holidays, uggh)Jun 13 19:11
ender_33unless you want to play games that are decades oldJun 13 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Congrats Italy for doing the right thing on nuclear power! :)Jun 13 19:12
ender_33I enjoyed Quake 4 when it was new, not todayJun 13 19:12
ender_33et quake wars was fun 4 years agoJun 13 19:12
DaemonFCwhen used in a propaganda sense, people say you have to accept things because you can't do anything about themJun 13 19:12
DaemonFCin other words, they are saying accept what you must tolerateJun 13 19:13
DaemonFCbut not in plain English like thatJun 13 19:13
ender_33my opinion is in the minorityJun 13 19:13
DaemonFCwhen I think of "accept", I usually take it to mean "I approve"Jun 13 19:13
ender_33the pc gaming market is that 90% windows usersJun 13 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RSVP for EFF's Member's Only Speakeasy: Seattle w/@marciahofmann on Thursday! Catch Marcia's talk @sourceconf Wednesday.Jun 13 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Berlusconi's toupet looks like a helmet it's that bad! :DJun 13 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: #Linus Torvalds threatens to cut off #ARM - http://bit.ly/l2DNYB in the nicest possible way, of course #kernelJun 13 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @agentsmith: RT @rbanffy "Dilma cede e decide manter sigilo eterno" de documentos do governo http://ig.com/6B2 #sarney #collor #dilmaJun 13 19:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linus Torvalds threatens to cut off ARM | Linux User .::. Size~: 43.11 KBJun 13 19:13
DaemonFCnot "geez, not this shit again, oh well, no choice"Jun 13 19:13
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DaemonFCthe only real point of weak half-assed DRM being there is not to protect the software in a technical senseJun 13 19:15
DaemonFCit's to make you commit a crime in removing itJun 13 19:15
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DaemonFCwhich takes sometimes a hex editor and a minute of your timeJun 13 19:15
nj3maHalloJun 13 19:16
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ender_33not a crime in canadaJun 13 19:16
ender_33so i dont give a shitJun 13 19:16
DaemonFCit's a federal crime in the USJun 13 19:16
DaemonFCbut I don't give a shitJun 13 19:16
DaemonFC:PJun 13 19:16
ender_33thats niceJun 13 19:16
ender_33lolJun 13 19:16
ender_33federal us crimes are the most fun to breakJun 13 19:16
DaemonFCso many to choose fromJun 13 19:16
DaemonFCwhat haven't they outlawed?Jun 13 19:17
DaemonFCyou get a shorter list that wayJun 13 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The Catholic church should shut the fuck up as far as the Third Reich is concerned. They have loads of blood & shit on their hands.Jun 13 19:17
ender_33not sureJun 13 19:17
ender_33i could be an illegal immigrant there but thats not illegal anymoreJun 13 19:17
DaemonFCstill is illegalJun 13 19:17
ender_33no funJun 13 19:17
ender_33not reallyJun 13 19:17
DaemonFCbut only if you complain about you working conditionsJun 13 19:17
DaemonFCthen it's back to Mexico for youJun 13 19:18
ender_33what do they do about illegal canadiansJun 13 19:18
DaemonFCdeport them to Canada if they get found outJun 13 19:18
ender_33'we stole you, you're not illegal'Jun 13 19:18
ender_33lolJun 13 19:18
DaemonFCbut we don't really protect that borderJun 13 19:19
DaemonFCthere's areas where there's a Canadian road on one side, a US road on the other, and a 4 foot median is the borderJun 13 19:19
ender_33the US/Canadian border is just a tollgating system to tax us both on stuff we purchase in each others countriesJun 13 19:19
DaemonFCand you can drive right acrossJun 13 19:19
ender_33lolJun 13 19:19
DaemonFCwe don't need shock collars and land mines for you peopleJun 13 19:20
DaemonFCyou're (mostly) the right colorJun 13 19:20
DaemonFCB-)Jun 13 19:20
ender_33we have oil tooJun 13 19:20
DaemonFCso do weJun 13 19:20
ender_33more oil than the Saudi'sJun 13 19:20
DaemonFCwe sell it to foreign countries who sell it back to us at a profitJun 13 19:21
DaemonFCcleverJun 13 19:21
ender_33lolJun 13 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Install and Configure OpenVPN Server on Linux http://bit.ly/k6Av77 #linuxJun 13 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF Members Only Speakeasy: Seattle w/@marciahofmann on Thursday! Catch her talk @sourceconf Wedensday. https://eff.org/r.68nJun 13 19:22
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DaemonFCender_33, Why does Canada pick on the US for executing serial killers? (after 20 years of appeals, sometimes) but they never speak out against countries that give the death sentence for a small amount of hashish Jun 13 19:23
DaemonFCmany Islamic countries do thatJun 13 19:23
DaemonFCyou know, it's also not a US custom to mutilate female genitals so they can't become aroused (many Islamic countries do that)Jun 13 19:24
DaemonFCwhere is the outrage?Jun 13 19:24
DaemonFCwhy is it so misplaced? :)Jun 13 19:24
nj3maAs does ChinaJun 13 19:24
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DaemonFCyeah, you deal drugs in China and your ass is grassJun 13 19:25
DaemonFC:PJun 13 19:25
DaemonFCthey have some proper police brutality thereJun 13 19:26
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DaemonFCender_33, I'm not one of those rabid, foaming at the mouth, anti-proprietary software nutsJun 13 19:27
DaemonFCI'm really notJun 13 19:27
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DaemonFCbut I am against DRM, and I am against badly broken software that tends to fuck up my systemJun 13 19:28
DaemonFCnvidia and fglrx fit the second oneJun 13 19:28
DaemonFCand most games fit into the firstJun 13 19:28
DaemonFCthey compliment each other right off my systemJun 13 19:28
koolhead17hoi allJun 13 19:29
DaemonFCWindows is a shoe in for both countsJun 13 19:29
DaemonFCender_33, I'd like to see fglrx or nvidia improve, because I'm not really against either one for just being proprietary, they are broken Jun 13 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: The Outlaws are live now: http://sixgun.org/live !linuxoutlawsJun 13 19:30
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DaemonFCand they can't be fixed to support the modern kernel/X infrastructure as long as AMD and Nvidia insist on bypassing the kernel and abusing X to drive the cardJun 13 19:30
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DaemonFCto fix this mess they'd have to do a lot of work, and relicense some pieces of their driver under the GPLJun 13 19:31
DaemonFCnot all of it, just enough to interface properly with the direct rendering managerJun 13 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @sixgun: The Outlaws are live now: http://sixgun.org/live #linuxoutlawsJun 13 19:32
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DaemonFCit could be done, but both of them keep bitching about their stupid state secrets that would spill out if they made their drivers work rightJun 13 19:32
DaemonFCeven the free driver stack user and kernel space bits only communicate over a bridge (libdrm)Jun 13 19:33
DaemonFCall the userspace stuff can do is make requests that the kernel can accept or rejectJun 13 19:33
DaemonFC:)Jun 13 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] 5,4,3,2,1 .... oh false start ;)Jun 13 19:33
DaemonFCyou watch at how (as soon as Firefox and Chromium can use WebGL with them) how many security holes are exposed in the proprietary driversJun 13 19:34
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DaemonFChave a feeling it won't be prettyJun 13 19:35
eebrah@nj3ma Welcome brathaJun 13 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO ♺ @jezra: 5,4,3,2,1 .... oh false start ;)Jun 13 19:37
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neighborleeschestowitz, oh they did huh :))Jun 13 19:43
koolhead17schestowitz pingJun 13 19:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Proprietary software keeps users helpless (TechRadar) http://lwn.net/Articles/447309/rssJun 13 19:45
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DaemonFCevery question you ask RMS always seems to get a copy/paste essay about the GNU ManifestoJun 13 19:50
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nj3maeebrah: Hi. HereJun 13 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Announce] #pygobject 2.28.6 released • by nacho http://ping.fm/Bxo8fJun 13 20:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Haiku, Inc. accepts a second development contract in 2011! • by mmadia http://ping.fm/sRpyFJun 13 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why you should always have a network connection when installing !Debian • by Raphaël Hertzog http://ping.fm/y5HcIJun 13 20:03
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nj3maeebrah: Still there?Jun 13 20:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Finished with monthly !GNU Advisory Committee call; always good to hear voices instead of just read emails.Jun 13 20:10
ender_3314:44 < DaemonFC> every question you ask RMS always seems to get a copy/paste essay about the GNU ManifestoJun 13 20:11
ender_33yeah, cause you have the right to copy and paste itJun 13 20:11
ender_33so they doJun 13 20:13
ender_33nothing originalJun 13 20:13
ender_33Why not use X?Jun 13 20:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @gomerx: @fabsh You're right that #redhat should do a cheaper !RHEL without support. I'd pay for it.Jun 13 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @reality: everything is crap #itonlygetsworseJun 13 20:17
ender_33https://www.haiku-os.org/news/2011-06-12_haiku_inc_accepts_second_development_contract_2011Jun 13 20:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Haiku, Inc. accepts a second development contract in 2011! | Haiku Project .::. Size~: 15.55 KBJun 13 20:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] it took me a while to realize he was saying "Common Sense" and not "Comic Sans" #hearingfailJun 13 20:22
schestowitzHi eebrah!Jun 13 20:24
schestowitzsorry, was away...Jun 13 20:24
sebsebsebhmm eebrah the one on Identica so also from Kenya?Jun 13 20:25
DaemonFChttp://www.courierpress.com/news/2011/jun/13/no-headline---14a0xcartheft-brf/Jun 13 20:25
DaemonFClolJun 13 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Evansville man tells police job applicant stole his car » Evansville Courier & Press .::. Size~: 111.02 KBJun 13 20:25
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schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, africa rocksJun 13 20:29
sebsebsebschestowitz: hmm?Jun 13 20:29
schestowitzI keep missing nj3ma when he's hereJun 13 20:29
DaemonFCPrivoxy 3.0.17 fixes a lot of problems, Fedora hasn't packaged itJun 13 20:30
schestowitzsebsebseb: as in  "rox"Jun 13 20:30
DaemonFCmaintainer seems unreachableJun 13 20:30
DaemonFCbuilt it myself :)Jun 13 20:30
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schestowitzbuild it with Ubuntu^tmJun 13 20:30
DaemonFCpassJun 13 20:30
DaemonFC:PJun 13 20:30
schestowitzmount it with Ubuntu^tmJun 13 20:30
schestowitzUbuntu^tm Weiner editionJun 13 20:30
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sebsebsebschestowitz: uhmm he was just here nj3ma, but leftJun 13 20:31
DaemonFCUbuntu Bacon and Weiner EditionJun 13 20:31
sebsebsebalsoJun 13 20:31
DaemonFCB-)Jun 13 20:31
sebsebsebdidn't you see it?Jun 13 20:31
sebsebsebnj3ma trolled the Mageia group a bit on Identica basicalley, even if he was just jokingJun 13 20:31
schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, I keep missing him (Away) while he's hereJun 13 20:31
schestowitzWorking on some servers STMJun 13 20:31
schestowitz*ATMJun 13 20:31
sebsebsebschestowitz: did you see what he dented to the group?  about a week or so ago nowJun 13 20:31
schestowitzno, what?Jun 13 20:32
sebsebsebschestowitz: I think it's an example of trolling, even if he meant as a jokeJun 13 20:32
sebsebsebschestowitz: This one is ok: http://identi.ca/notice/75560064Jun 13 20:33
schestowitzLOL: http://twitter.com/brettglass/status/80343170327646208?iid=am-361504488&nid=4&uid=26603208Jun 13 20:33
TechrightsBot-tr@Moshe Njema (nj3ma)'s status on Monday, 06-Jun-11 15:33:40 UTC - Identi.ca: Fact: Single installation of !Mageia cut down crime in Paris 120% !cultofmageiaJun 13 20:33
TechrightsBot-tr@brettglass: @schestowitz You targeted all ISPs. And "DPI" is a misnomer and a bogeyman. Time to get past your irrational hatred of ISPs.Jun 13 20:33
sebsebseb,but the other one no not reallyJun 13 20:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: the other one is bad, is stupid, so shoudh't have been sent to the Mageia group reallyJun 13 20:34
schestowitzmaybe a joke because French police moved to UbuntuJun 13 20:34
schestowitzThey should have taken MandrivaJun 13 20:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: This one is bad: http://identi.ca/notice/75561413Jun 13 20:34
TechrightsBot-tr@Moshe Njema (nj3ma)'s status on Monday, 06-Jun-11 15:48:08 UTC - Identi.ca: Fact. !Mageia installs heighten and lengthen sexual desire in females. !cultofmageiaJun 13 20:34
schestowitzMaybe now without the Brazil and Russia (BRIC) roots the police can take  mageiaJun 13 20:34
DaemonFCschestowitz, Maybe they can now spare some resources to go after the muggers on their trainsJun 13 20:34
DaemonFC:)Jun 13 20:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: The first one is ok, but this second one, why did he send that to the group?Jun 13 20:35
schestowitzsebsebseb: it's funnyJun 13 20:35
schestowitzExcept the "cult" thingJun 13 20:35
schestowitzAre you sure you don't just fail to comprehend humour?Jun 13 20:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: he laos started a group, cultofmageiaJun 13 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] For all CoC lovers: smoke a joint and relax the fuck up!Jun 13 20:35
sebsebsebalso above, not laos, typoJun 13 20:35
schestowitzhe did the same with "Shuttlecock" IIRCJun 13 20:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: surely the Mageia group on Identica, should be family friendly really? so why send  stuff like the second dent to it?Jun 13 20:36
schestowitzsebsebseb: what's in that group?Jun 13 20:36
schestowitzThere's a CultofUbuntu groupJun 13 20:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: what he runs Shuttle?Jun 13 20:36
schestowitzIt's pro-UbuntuJun 13 20:36
schestowitzThere is also:Jun 13 20:36
schestowitz!google cult of macJun 13 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Cult of Mac | Apple News, Reviews and How Tos | http://www.cultofmac.com/Jun 13 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Apple Staffer: iPad 3 Is The One To “Make A Song ... - Cult of Mac | http://www.cultofmac.com/apple-staffer-ipad-3-is-the-one-to-make-a-song-dance-about/84275Jun 13 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - iPhone 5 Will Enable Ambitious Remote Computing ... - Cult of Mac | http://www.cultofmac.com/iphone-5-will-enable-ambitious-remote-computing/66825Jun 13 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Amazon.com: The Cult of Mac (9781886411838): Leander Kahney: Books | http://www.amazon.com/Cult-Mac-Leander-Kahney/dp/1886411832Jun 13 20:36
sebsebsebnot much in his group yetJun 13 20:36
DaemonFCthe French government is badly mismanagedJun 13 20:36
schestowitzTreat "cult" like "pirate party"... parody of sortsJun 13 20:36
DaemonFCno time to go after the people that rob tourists at knifepointJun 13 20:36
DaemonFCthey're off busy passing three strikes laws for people that share MP3sJun 13 20:36
schestowitz[20:36] <DaemonFC> no time to go after the people that rob tourists at knifepointJun 13 20:37
schestowitzThat's your momJun 13 20:37
schestowitzGonad was not around to protect hereJun 13 20:37
DaemonFCyeah, it isJun 13 20:37
schestowitzYour worldview is narrowJun 13 20:37
DaemonFCno crime there Jun 13 20:37
schestowitzTo you, France=mom's visit=gypsy=knideJun 13 20:37
DaemonFCthey don't let them have guns so they jsut stab youJun 13 20:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: I don't think  such stupid stuff should be sent to the group really, even if it's just a joke reallyJun 13 20:37
DaemonFCwell, at least you aren't a gun fatalityJun 13 20:37
schestowitzAnd Mexico=drugs, immigrantsJun 13 20:37
DaemonFCdon't become a statistic or anythingJun 13 20:37
schestowitzYou need to get out moreJun 13 20:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: me?Jun 13 20:38
DaemonFCthey come here and try that with me, I'll just shoot themJun 13 20:38
schestowitzsebsebseb: maybe you don't get the humourJun 13 20:38
DaemonFCthat's why it really doesn't happen much around hereJun 13 20:38
schestowitzTo me it's funny what he wroteJun 13 20:38
schestowitz[20:34] <TechrightsBot-tr> @Moshe Njema (nj3ma)'s status on Monday, 06-Jun-11 15:48:08 UTC - Identi.ca: Fact. !Mageia installs heighten and lengthen sexual desire in females. !cultofmageiaJun 13 20:38
schestowitzPublicity for the distroiJun 13 20:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: yep I don't get the humor I guess then, and I won't be the only oneJun 13 20:39
schestowitzEven if it's snarlyJun 13 20:39
DaemonFCsebsebseb, schestowitz thinks guns are the only wepons a criminal can useJun 13 20:39
DaemonFClike most people in his area I guessJun 13 20:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: also that second dent, by females, could probably be seen as sexist evenJun 13 20:39
DaemonFCthat's why they get stabbedJun 13 20:39
DaemonFCwould it make me feel better to get stabbed? not reallyJun 13 20:40
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh and the COLA trolls and such, are probably going to love reading this in the logs, if they read itJun 13 20:40
DaemonFCin fact, that can do more damage than being shot if the knife is big enough and/or hits the right areaJun 13 20:40
DaemonFCthey should ban knives in Europe, make their criminals use sticks and stones or somethingJun 13 20:41
DaemonFClike the UK banned handguns, so now the criminals just saw down shotguns Jun 13 20:41
DaemonFC:)Jun 13 20:41
DaemonFCyou get hit with that, goodbyeJun 13 20:41
DaemonFCall more laws do is make the criminals find more ways to get the stuff anyway while the people who should be able to protect themselves can'tJun 13 20:42
DaemonFCI'm sure in the UK it is also illegal to saw the barrel off a shotgun, but criminals don't careJun 13 20:43
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schestowitzHi, nj3ma!Jun 13 20:43
schestowitzI always tend to be away when you're hereJun 13 20:44
schestowitzWe were just talking about you...Jun 13 20:44
nj3maWere you? How you doing doc?Jun 13 20:44
DaemonFCOne of the French police officers was explaining their screwed up legal system to my mom and it boiled down to making a complaint is like filing a lawsuit against the city, then if they do catch the guy he'll sit in jail for a day and probably get released anywayJun 13 20:45
DaemonFCwith laws like that there's very little to lose in threatening to murder someone for their moneyJun 13 20:45
eebrahnj3ma, There you are!Jun 13 20:45
schestowitznj3ma: I'm all right thank you..Jun 13 20:45
schestowitzOne of us is now looking into Gates' schemes... we can always use more informants and invetigatorsJun 13 20:46
sebsebsebnj3ma: schestowitz and me were just talking about your  humor to the Mageia grou pon Identica hmmJun 13 20:46
schestowitznj3ma: I think sebsebseb didn't like your mageia jokesJun 13 20:46
nj3maeebrah: Yep, hereJun 13 20:46
eebrahWait! people think nj3ma is funny?Jun 13 20:46
sebsebsebeebrah: not me, that's for sure, from what I  have seen so far on IdenticaJun 13 20:47
nj3maRight! The whole cult of Mageia thing?Jun 13 20:47
schestowitzthere's cult of Ubuntu siteJun 13 20:48
sebsebsebnj3ma: yeah, the first dent so what, the second you did, was  much worseJun 13 20:48
eebrahdisclaimer, I know nj3ma and he is neither funny nor unfunny, he just isJun 13 20:48
schestowitz!google muktware cult of ubuntuJun 13 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - COU : Cult of Ubuntu | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/cou.muktwareJun 13 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Cult of Ubuntu | Muktware | http://www.muktware.com/couJun 13 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Cult of Ubuntu aka CoU Launched | Muktware | http://www.muktware.com/n/01/2011/621Jun 13 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - What Is Cult of Ubuntu aka COU? | Muktware | http://www.muktware.com/b/3/290/02/2011/622Jun 13 20:48
sebsebsebnj3ma: your second dent, could even be seen as being sexist by femalesJun 13 20:48
nj3maMuch apologiesJun 13 20:48
nj3maNo offense meant but still much apologiesJun 13 20:49
schestowitzMAgeia hightens enthusiasm among them dirty MALES !! :-)Jun 13 20:49
schestowitznj3ma: sebsebseb isn't great at detection humour IMHOJun 13 20:49
schestowitz*ofJun 13 20:49
eebrahhumour's relativeJun 13 20:50
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eebrahnj3ma, how you doing #IRC?Jun 13 20:50
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eebrahfrom droid? if so, which app?Jun 13 20:51
nj3maAlways felt that at times the FOSS scene as much of geekdom is, comes across as a bit sexist. wouldn't like to perpetuate the notion. Jun 13 20:51
sebsebsebnj3ma: I know you probably meant as a joke, but still try and keep the Mageia group family friendly :)  even though there isn't a keep things family friendly rule on Identica, but still :)Jun 13 20:51
nj3maeebrah: App's called YAAIC.Yet Another Irc client or something of the sortJun 13 20:52
nj3masebsebseb: Will keep crass humor to the cult of Mageia groupJun 13 20:53
sebsebsebnj3ma: the first dent I am ok with that,  the one about parisJun 13 20:53
sebsebsebnj3ma: it's the second I am no that keen aboutJun 13 20:53
eebrah@nj3ma Yay AndroidJun 13 20:53
nj3masebsebseb: Get you.Jun 13 20:54
DaemonFChttp://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-continues-to-define-what-constitutes-a-violent-felony/2011/06/09/AG9O3oNH_story.htmlJun 13 20:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Supreme Court continues to define what constitutes a ‘violent felony’ - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 90.49 KBJun 13 20:54
DaemonFClolJun 13 20:54
ThistleWebsebsebseb: be careful what you wish for, too much on the whole Disney rules and you may find that nobody wants to talk about Magia at all, it'll turn into a wall of youJun 13 20:54
schestowitz[20:52] <nj3ma> eebrah: App's called YAAIC.Yet Another Irc client or something of the sortJun 13 20:54
DaemonFCthey decided to challenge the Armed Career Criminal Act with and armed career criminalJun 13 20:54
schestowitzProbably based on soem GPL appJun 13 20:54
sebsebsebnj3ma: This one is ok: http://identi.ca/notice/75560064Jun 13 20:55
TechrightsBot-tr@Moshe Njema (nj3ma)'s status on Monday, 06-Jun-11 15:33:40 UTC - Identi.ca: Fact: Single installation of !Mageia cut down crime in Paris 120% !cultofmageiaJun 13 20:55
schestowitzSounds like yacc/bison... also reminds of of YANOFF for Palm OSJun 13 20:55
nj3masebsebseb: By the way how do you pronounce Mageia? Apart from very carefully,that isJun 13 20:55
sebsebsebnj3ma: ah yes I remember you dented about that evenJun 13 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Keep up to date with the latest Ubuntu Unity news, projects, and developments by following @ubuntuunity #ubuntu RT!Jun 13 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is eebrah with 119 dents!Jun 13 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @reality: Lag on the Identiverse this evening. I do not approve.Jun 13 20:55
DaemonFCschestowitz, This guy is looking at a life sentence now, which is how repeat violent criminals should be handledJun 13 20:55
schestowitznj3ma: LOLJun 13 20:56
sebsebsebnj3ma: well I have heard it being proununced and I think I know how to pronounced it :) ,but can't explain in textJun 13 20:56
DaemonFCat least my government can maintain some appearance of concern over public safety Jun 13 20:56
schestowitzma - jee - yaJun 13 20:56
schestowitzaccent on the jee IIRCJun 13 20:56
eebrahsebsebseb but really, how do you pronounce it?Jun 13 20:56
DaemonFCthey should teach this stuff to the French instead of three strikes laws for sharing MP3sJun 13 20:56
sebsebsebeebrah: I can't say in textJun 13 20:56
sebsebsebeebrah: nj3ma  When I go on Techbytes probably later this month,  you can listen to me pronounce it though in the way I think is correct :DJun 13 20:57
ThistleWebor they may decide the Magia people are too up themselves to have a jokeJun 13 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "'Proprietary software keeps users helpless'" http://ur1.ca/4eub6 Jun 13 20:57
nj3maeebrah: You made top statusician. Congrats. Didn't catch most of them thoughJun 13 20:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Proprietary software keeps users helpless' | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 93.64 KBJun 13 20:57
schestowitz!google youtube mageia reviewJun 13 20:57
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - Linux Distro Review - Mageia Alpha 1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dv7KO_svMAloJun 13 20:57
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - Mageia alpha1 Released! | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DtidPv8sznZwJun 13 20:57
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - Mageia 1 Review - Linux Distro Reviews | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Du4mfn1yZiEMJun 13 20:57
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - YouTube - Mageia 1: A Review of the Mandriva Fork | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DV060tir1oPMJun 13 20:57
eebrahsebsebseb: Think schestowitz tried :)Jun 13 20:57
sebsebsebThistleWeb: I understand what your saying and I agree, that's why I think smoe hemour to the group is ok, but not about sex :)  CC nj3ma eebrahJun 13 20:57
schestowitzThey pronnounce itJun 13 20:57
eebrahnj3ma: huh?Jun 13 20:57
eebrahtop statistician?Jun 13 20:58
schestowitznj3ma: made it almost every day in DecemberJun 13 20:58
ThistleWebsebsebseb: without sex none of us would be hereJun 13 20:58
schestowitzBecause I supported wikileaks at the expense of all my spare timeJun 13 20:58
ThistleWebI assume magia have a CoC thenJun 13 20:58
nj3maMa-jee-ah is cool. Jun 13 20:58
eebrahThistleweb :)Jun 13 20:58
sebsebsebThistleWeb: actsaully they don't care much about  rules at all right now, most of themJun 13 20:58
DaemonFCthe ACLU always gets involved on the behalf of rapists and murderers and armed thugs, and even neo-nazis and gay bashers, I think they just like to hear themselves argue the law and don't care that most of the people they're fighting for deserve to rot in prisonJun 13 20:58
schestowitzhttp://macno.org/denticator/?user=schestowitz&service=identi.ca&chart=flashJun 13 20:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Denticator .::. Size~: 4.67 KBJun 13 20:58
sebsebsebThistleWeb: ,but they got a vales page which is a bit like a scout mottoJun 13 20:58
ThistleWebthey don't care, but YOU doJun 13 20:59
nj3maeebrah: The denticator bot declared you day's top StatuscianJun 13 20:59
sebsebsebThistleWeb: there are others as well, I am not the only one :)Jun 13 20:59
schestowitznj3ma: http://macno.org/denticator/?user=nj3ma&service=identi.ca&chart=flashJun 13 20:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Denticator .::. Size~: 4.66 KBJun 13 20:59
ThistleWebyou've taken it upon yourself to enforce rules that don't exist, and the others don't want?Jun 13 20:59
sebsebsebThistleWeb: another guy wants rules as well proper rules for IRC and such, for exampleJun 13 21:00
eebrahnj3ma: saw the statistician dent, blame identifoxJun 13 21:00
eebrahI made top statistician \o/ \o/  yayJun 13 21:00
ThistleWebsebsebseb: that's fine, when the rules are agreed, then enforce themJun 13 21:01
nj3maschestowitz: Been trying to get on the top 100. Think i finally will this weekJun 13 21:01
eebrahnj3ma: ignoring the fact that it was a sunday cc schestowitzJun 13 21:01
*schestowitz been listening to fog gets in your eyes instrumental for past 3 hours on loopJun 13 21:01
ThistleWebif you were smart, you'd not try to do anything yet, let people say whatever, as it gives you more examples to point to, to make your case later onJun 13 21:01
schestowitz[20:58] <ThistleWeb> I assume magia have a CoC thenJun 13 21:01
schestowitzSo dos Anthony WeinerJun 13 21:02
ThistleWeblolJun 13 21:02
schestowitzHe wanted to prove itJun 13 21:02
schestowitzIdiot..Jun 13 21:02
ThistleWebI'd say "gimmie proof" but.....bad idea lolJun 13 21:02
schestowitzHe put a piece of fruit in his attireJun 13 21:02
schestowitzThen took a shot with anotherJun 13 21:02
schestowitzthe blackberryJun 13 21:02
schestowitznot appleJun 13 21:02
*eebrah is loving IRC, why did it take me so long to get here? cc nj3maJun 13 21:02
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ThistleWebsebsebseb: when any project is new, it needs ALL the attention it can get, the last thing you wanna do is get all moralising on people, otherwise the curious eye they've cast over Magia will just move somewhere else, and it will never growJun 13 21:03
schestowitz[21:01] <eebrah> nj3ma: ignoring the fact that it was a sunday cc schestowitzJun 13 21:03
schestowitzfab still rules the denJun 13 21:03
nj3maFemale members of the FOSS community often complain about it being a boys locker room. Would like to be seen as perpetuating the notionJun 13 21:04
ThistleWebwhen you have a large user / dev base you can afford adults deciding they don't like a family policy, when you don't have many, you don't have many to loseJun 13 21:04
nj3maWill keep potentially offensive stuff off groups I don't adminJun 13 21:04
schestowitzThistleWeb: true  about mageiaJun 13 21:04
sebsebsebThistleWeb: ok I understand what your saying, but at the same time,  I am sure the Mageia project doesn't really want loasd of idiots using  their IRC channels and so onJun 13 21:04
ThistleWebsebsebseb: I wonder how long it'll be before the Magia people tell you to stop speaking on their behalfJun 13 21:04
MinceRgeekingsJun 13 21:05
ThistleWebpeople who make adult jokes are idiots?Jun 13 21:05
ThistleWebwow, what a welcoming approachJun 13 21:05
sebsebsebI was talking in generalJun 13 21:05
sebsebsebtrollsJun 13 21:05
schestowitz[21:04] <nj3ma> Female members of the FOSS community often complain about it being a boys locker room. Would like to be seen as perpetuating the notionJun 13 21:05
schestowitzI told sebsebseb it's like "pirate party"Jun 13 21:05
ThistleWeban adult joke isn't trollingJun 13 21:05
DaemonFCa sausagefest Jun 13 21:05
sebsebseband let me be clear on something, I didnt' call nj3maj a troll :)Jun 13 21:05
schestowitzMocking words like "cult" and "pirate"Jun 13 21:05
sebsebsebnj3ma isn't a troll :)Jun 13 21:05
ThistleWeb<sebsebseb> and let me be clear on something, I didnt' call nj3maj a troll :)  << yet a dent from the same person you felt was wrongJun 13 21:06
ThistleWebmake up your mindJun 13 21:06
schestowitz[21:05] <ThistleWeb> people who make adult jokes are idiots?Jun 13 21:06
schestowitzwho said that?Jun 13 21:06
eebrahnj3ma: Orange kenya advertising ZTE san-francisco on their siteJun 13 21:06
ThistleWebschestowitz: <sebsebseb> ThistleWeb: ok I understand what your saying, but at the same time,  I am sure the Mageia project doesn't really want loasd of idiots using  their IRC channels and so onJun 13 21:06
eebrahnj3ma: cant seem to find it in shops thoughJun 13 21:06
schestowitz!google ZTE androidJun 13 21:07
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Four ZTE Android smartphones incoming | http://www.intomobile.com/2010/03/06/four-zte-android-smartphones-incoming/Jun 13 21:07
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - ZTE Launches Android 2.3 Smartphone, Promises LTE Tablets | PCWorld | http://www.pcworld.com/article/219542/zte_launches_android_23_smartphone_promises_lte_tablets.htmlJun 13 21:07
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - ZTE's cheap Android drops Apple to fifth in world share | Electronista | http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/01/27/idc.iphone.5th.zte.up.to.4th.in.share/Jun 13 21:07
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - ZTE shows off Android-run Amigo, Blade | Mobile World Congress ... | http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-20031809-78.htmlJun 13 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @RedPaTo2 Colombian citizens demand #transparency on ISP liability bill discussions. Sign petition! http://ur1.ca/4f3f5 #leyllerasJun 13 21:07
eebrahnj3ma: reminds me of when IDEOS first showed up @ safaricomJun 13 21:07
ThistleWebtaking issue with people throwing adult jokes (NOT TROLLING) then saying, it's about trolls, but the person who made the joke isn;t a trollJun 13 21:07
ThistleWebit's circular logic that doesn't add upJun 13 21:07
nj3maeebrah: Bother. It's old costs more than the Ideos and runs Eclair 12kJun 13 21:07
sebsebsebThistleWeb:  nj3ma I didn't like the particular dent that's all, didn't reallythink it was appropriate for the group, because I knew that even though it was a joke, it could probably offend a lot of peopleJun 13 21:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ley Lleras a primer debate | Red Pa Todos .::. Size~: 64 KBJun 13 21:08
DaemonFCThe best part about UDP jokes is that I don't care whether you get them or notJun 13 21:08
ThistleWebit's not your place to like or dislike itJun 13 21:08
ThistleWebthat's personal for youJun 13 21:09
nj3maCan confirm I am not a trollJun 13 21:09
nj3maThistleWeb: Did sebsebseb say it's bout trollsJun 13 21:09
ThistleWebnj3ma: yesJun 13 21:09
ThistleWebit's about "nothaving the identica group and irc full of idiots and trolls"Jun 13 21:10
nj3maThistleWeb: I would take offense with thatJun 13 21:10
schestowitzPoliceman to terrorist: "Are you a terrorist? No? Oh, OK, sorry.... go on then."Jun 13 21:10
sebsebsebnj3ma: ThistleWeb I meant not havin dents in there, that could offend a lot of peopleJun 13 21:10
ThistleWebyet the issue was about an adult joke he felt was inappropriateJun 13 21:10
sebsebsebeven if they were meant as a jokeJun 13 21:10
nj3maIdiots and trolls?Jun 13 21:10
ThistleWebsebsebseb: do the magia people appreciate you speaking for them?Jun 13 21:11
schestowitzput in quotesJun 13 21:11
schestowitzAs in...Jun 13 21:11
sebsebsebnj3ma: and my idiots and trolls comment was in general, about how I am sure the Mageia project woudn't want loads of trolls in the IRC channels for example,  and i'll say it again I didn't say you are the troll :)Jun 13 21:11
nj3maNow that's mixing up issuesJun 13 21:11
schestowitzSome people would get the impression that the group is polluted by anti-mageia stuffJun 13 21:11
nj3masebsebseb: Was as good as saying itJun 13 21:12
sebsebsebalso I don't really want this chat here, but now has ended up being soJun 13 21:12
ThistleWebmagia needs all the help it can get, the last thing it needs is to piss people off who think the magia people are too up their own asses to feel offended by adult jokesJun 13 21:12
sebsebsebnj3ma: and what I am saying to you is from me,  I am not representing the whole project by saying it, to be clear :)Jun 13 21:13
ThistleWebso YOU don't appreciate adult jokes, now we get to the real issueJun 13 21:14
ThistleWebthat's why blocking existsJun 13 21:14
schestowitz:-)Jun 13 21:14
schestowitzIt's hardly even adultJun 13 21:14
nj3maStuff's clearly been misunderstoodJun 13 21:14
sebsebsebnj3ma: indeedJun 13 21:14
ThistleWebI didn't read it, but I have a broader sense of language lolJun 13 21:14
sebsebsebnj3ma: plus ThistleWeb likes arguing/debating with me  every now and again in here, when I say something, it seemsJun 13 21:15
schestowitzit just had the term "sexual" in itJun 13 21:15
schestowitzOMG genitalia!Jun 13 21:15
ThistleWebnah, I took exception to you taking it upon yourself to speak on behalf of Techbytes while I was on it, I see the same self elevation with you and Magia, maybe the PM where you tried to hide your agenda helped seal thatJun 13 21:16
sebsebsebThistleWeb: the pm what?Jun 13 21:16
ThistleWebthe one months ago when you were trying to pimp the uk magiea channelJun 13 21:16
ThistleWebwhile trying to pretend you had nothing to do with magiaJun 13 21:17
ThistleWebuntil I called you on it, because you were as subtle as a microsoft astroturferJun 13 21:17
ThistleWebeven then you tried to deny it, and eventually admitted itJun 13 21:17
ThistleWebremember now?Jun 13 21:18
sebsebsebyep, but you misunderstood that one a bit or whatever as well I think, but that's quite a while ago nowJun 13 21:18
sebsebsebpast is past?  let's live in the presant?Jun 13 21:19
ThistleWebnah, I didn't misunderstand at allJun 13 21:19
ThistleWebwe both know I never misunderstoodJun 13 21:19
ThistleWebas I said, I saw you then and since talk on behalf of magia, no idea if they know or appreciate itJun 13 21:19
ThistleWebtonight's CoC thing about the identica group is just the latest example, most of the time I don't call you on it, tonight I didJun 13 21:20
ThistleWebif that's what you call "regular arguments" then so be itJun 13 21:20
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eebrahnj3ma: when did version of software matter? esp with FLOSS?Jun 13 21:21
ThistleWebanyhoo, I suspect you want the convo to move on now, so, let it move onJun 13 21:21
sebsebsebas I said earlier, Mageia doesn't have rules for Identica,  I just  personally prefer that certain things arent' sent to the group, that's allJun 13 21:22
eebrahnj3ma: we shall load FroyoJun 13 21:22
sebsebsebalso Identica itself, seems to allow loads of sweraing or so on, but that's not my pointJun 13 21:22
schestowitzeebrah: seems like he's offline againJun 13 21:22
schestowitzeebrah: what aboutJun 13 21:23
schestowitz!google cygenmodeJun 13 21:23
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsJun 13 21:23
schestowitz!google CyanogenModJun 13 21:23
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - CyanogenMod | Android Community Rom based on Gingerbread | http://www.cyanogenmod.com/Jun 13 21:23
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - CyanogenMod Forum | http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/Jun 13 21:23
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Devices | CyanogenMod | http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devicesJun 13 21:23
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - CyanogenMod - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenModJun 13 21:23
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nj3maSorry. My net connection got interruptedJun 13 21:26
sebsebsebnj3ma: ok welcome backJun 13 21:27
nj3maCrappy expensive Net is a fact of life in AfricaJun 13 21:27
nj3maWhat did i missJun 13 21:27
eebrahnj3ma: I said i'd put Froyo on ZTE san franciscoJun 13 21:28
eebrahSchestowitz suggested cyanogenmodJun 13 21:29
eebrahschestowitz: as longas it is available for the san-franJun 13 21:29
sebsebsebnj3ma: not muchJun 13 21:30
sebsebsebnj3ma: probably just the finnishing of the arguing with ThistleWeb and that's about itJun 13 21:30
eebrahnj3ma: feel you on crappy netJun 13 21:30
eebrahnj3ma: cheering Orange ZTE san-fran coz it signals cheap[ ish ] android phones in kenyan marketJun 13 21:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] got the new car. First thing off: removing "Compatible with Windows Mobile" sticker. Will never have that crap on my car, I swear!Jun 13 21:33
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/eebrah/status/80366095382495232Jun 13 21:44
TechrightsBot-tr@eebrah: @r7: 'grats  -- Thanks! been trying to crack it since forever, thanking @fabsh, @reality, @schestowitz ... for taking a sunday afternoon offJun 13 21:44
schestowitzHehJun 13 21:44
schestowitzeebrah: do you know my online mate who runs omgubuntu? He's also on twitter/identica, his site is mostly inactive nowJun 13 21:45
cubezzza lot of cars have microsoft software nowJun 13 21:46
schestowitzwma?Jun 13 21:46
cubezzzyepJun 13 21:46
cubezzzand mp3 of courseJun 13 21:46
schestowitzWhen I bought a car for/with my mom the radio came with itJun 13 21:46
schestowitzwmaJun 13 21:46
schestowitzAnd it advertised it tooJun 13 21:47
schestowitzcubezzz: we need a playogg campaignJun 13 21:47
cubezzzopen source carJun 13 21:47
cubezzzI bet someone's done itJun 13 21:47
schestowitzyesJun 13 21:48
schestowitzlong agoJun 13 21:48
schestowitz2008 ishJun 13 21:48
schestowitz!google "open source car" schestowiitzJun 13 21:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ford and Microsoft Distort “Open Source” | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/01/10/sync-cheapens-openness/Jun 13 21:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Audio/Video | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/audiovideo/Jun 13 21:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2009 June 16 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2009/06/16/Jun 13 21:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Date Next - Schestowitz.com - schestowitz.com | http://schestowitz.com/UseNet/2007/September_2007_3/msg00046.htmlJun 13 21:48
cubezzzah you wrote about this alreadyJun 13 21:48
schestowitzyes, google itJun 13 21:48
schestowitzIt's a European effott mostlyJun 13 21:48
schestowitzHaven't heard it in a whileJun 13 21:48
schestowitzFunny-looking car designJun 13 21:48
cubezzzusually I use public trans or taxi Jun 13 21:49
schestowitzI must have done over 10 posts about itJun 13 21:49
schestowitzcubezzz: what about bike?Jun 13 21:49
eebrahschestowitz: Don't know him #OMGBUNTU dudeJun 13 21:49
schestowitzTrains are niceJun 13 21:49
schestowitzNot too jittery and can read while on themJun 13 21:49
cubezzzschestowitz, I used to use the bike a lotJun 13 21:49
schestowitzCan't read while driving... and it's unsafe in generalJun 13 21:49
cubezzzbut now it's in bad conditonJun 13 21:49
schestowitzI drove a lot in my teen years... I now lives close to everywhere I goJun 13 21:50
cubezzzplus the roads around me aren't very bike friendlyJun 13 21:50
cubezzzbut the idea is still goodJun 13 21:50
amarsh04restarting in a few, to load linux kernel 3.0-rc2Jun 13 21:50
schestowitzeebrah: he also started IMGAfricaJun 13 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @newbintraining: The voice-over guy in dirt 3 is a dickJun 13 21:50
schestowitzOMGAfrica I meanJun 13 21:50
schestowitzhe's in good relations with techrightsJun 13 21:50
schestowitzHe linked to us today in fact, almost every dauJun 13 21:51
schestowitz*dayJun 13 21:51
eebrahschestowitz: Is he Ghanaian?Jun 13 21:51
schestowitzamarsh04: show off!Jun 13 21:51
schestowitzyes, he wruites about broadband in Africa tooJun 13 21:51
schestowitzHe taught me a lot about the difficultiesJun 13 21:51
eebrahamarsh04: show off!Jun 13 21:51
DaemonFCschestowitz, I've been digging into privoxy some more, I sped it up a lot and managed to set some annoying pop-under block patterns B-)Jun 13 21:52
DaemonFCthis is really cool :DJun 13 21:52
schestowitzAlso writes a fair bit about Nokia, about my articles on Monsanto/gates/indoctrinationJun 13 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] The People Who Support Linux: Windows Turned Linux Admin http://bit.ly/lqybe5Jun 13 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Community Leadership Summit 2011...it is coming - http://is.gd/pVXbUa - over 180 have registered, will you be there? #cls11Jun 13 21:52
TechrightsBot-tr@: Jun 13 21:52
schestowitzBut mostly about s/w sharingJun 13 21:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Community Leadership Summit 2011  |  jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 29.37 KBJun 13 21:52
eebrahschestowitz: Used to follow his blog and writings, lost him when I started denting moreJun 13 21:52
amarsh04not many people still running bleeding edge kernels on the old hardware I runJun 13 21:52
schestowitzCan't blame him for not bothering much to hype Ubuntu anymoreJun 13 21:52
cubezzzwhat about me? I'm the avant-garde of the avant-gardeJun 13 21:52
schestowitzeven jono doesn't say much about itJun 13 21:52
cubezzzI deserve the government grant or something :)Jun 13 21:52
schestowitzjono in this channel is the Ubuntu Community manager by the way. Top lad.Jun 13 21:53
eebrahschestowitz: TrueJun 13 21:53
eebrahUbuntu doesn't have much shine any moreJun 13 21:53
cubezzzI got more cc's than XeroxJun 13 21:53
cubezzzicc, gcc, pccJun 13 21:53
schestowitz[21:52] <cubezzz> what about me? I'm the avant-garde of the avant-gardeJun 13 21:53
schestowitzGovernment rewards spendersJun 13 21:53
schestowitz"Consumers" as they're calledJun 13 21:54
schestowitz"Move the economy already, will ya!"Jun 13 21:54
cubezzzah that's trueJun 13 21:54
DaemonFChttp://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/13/us/13fbi.html?_r=1&ref=usJun 13 21:54
TechrightsBot-trMissing content type. Ignoring.Jun 13 21:54
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DaemonFCgoing through household trashJun 13 21:54
schestowitzPurchases->VAT->taxJun 13 21:54
DaemonFCthey're braver than I am if they want to sift through mineJun 13 21:54
schestowitzWhen people stop passing much money around, the state is deprivedJun 13 21:54
cubezzzI guess I just don't buy enough stuffJun 13 21:54
schestowitzSo it starts borrowing more money from ChinaJun 13 21:54
schestowitzIt "moves the economy" and makes our kids more like slaves of China tomorrowJun 13 21:55
DaemonFCI don't get how this is news though, the Supreme Court has always ruled that anything you voluntarily give up doesn't require a search warrantJun 13 21:55
DaemonFCincluding DNA on a cup you drank out ofJun 13 21:55
schestowitz[21:53] <eebrah> Ubuntu doesn't have much shine any moreJun 13 21:55
schestowitzSadly, ni...Jun 13 21:55
schestowitzno..Jun 13 21:55
cubezzzha, OscarJun 13 21:56
cubezzzopen source carJun 13 21:56
schestowitzthere's another nameJun 13 21:56
DaemonFCthey turned it into a Windows Vista clone on one side of the screen and OS X on the otherJun 13 21:56
schestowitzwhich cannot be readJun 13 21:56
DaemonFCand it crashes as much as Windows 98Jun 13 21:56
schestowitzWindows 98 crashes? NEVER! :-)Jun 13 21:56
cubezzzsorry...OScarJun 13 21:56
schestowitzWHat's that European on?Jun 13 21:57
schestowitzVistacar.. EdselJun 13 21:57
cubezzzvistacar lolJun 13 21:57
DaemonFC8.5.32. session-cookies-onlyJun 13 21:57
DaemonFCTypical use:Jun 13 21:57
DaemonFCAllow only temporary "session" cookies (for the current browser session only).Jun 13 21:57
DaemonFCEffect:Jun 13 21:57
DaemonFCDeletes the "expires" field from "Set-Cookie:" server headers. Most browsers will not store such cookies permanently and forget them in between sessions.Jun 13 21:57
DaemonFCsweet :)Jun 13 21:57
cubezzzI don't think the Edsel was the worst thoughJun 13 21:57
cubezzzthe Pinto was worseJun 13 21:58
DaemonFCcubezzz, What's the difference between Internet Explorer and a Ford Pinto?Jun 13 21:58
cubezzznothing?Jun 13 21:58
DaemonFCThe Pinto is safe sometimes, when you're backing upJun 13 21:58
DaemonFCB-)Jun 13 21:58
cubezzz;-)Jun 13 21:58
DaemonFCI guess the joke could be betterJun 13 21:59
cubezzzthe thing is, Pinto's exploded when rear-endedJun 13 21:59
DaemonFCohJun 13 22:00
DaemonFCoopsJun 13 22:00
DaemonFCI was thinking front collision Jun 13 22:00
DaemonFCOK then, *cough*Jun 13 22:00
cubezzzthe gas tank was mounted in the back and was very unsafeJun 13 22:00
DaemonFCWhat do Windows and a Ford Pinto have in common?Jun 13 22:00
schestowitzDaemonFC drives a DodgeJun 13 22:00
DaemonFCYou're in great danger even if you're backing upJun 13 22:01
schestowitzMadame Farmer drives a GonadJun 13 22:01
cubezzznow you got it :)Jun 13 22:01
cubezzzmaybe someone makes an open source car kitJun 13 22:02
DaemonFCfilter demoronizerFix MS's non-standard use of standard charsets.Jun 13 22:04
DaemonFClolJun 13 22:04
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/nj3ma/statuses/80346132059926528Jun 13 22:04
TechrightsBot-tr@nj3ma: @eebrah I am on right now. On the #techrights channelJun 13 22:04
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/eebrah/statuses/80341755471474688Jun 13 22:04
TechrightsBot-tr@eebrah: RD: @nj3ma: On the #techrights IRC channel on freenode.net  --- and trolling proceeds as planned :PJun 13 22:04
schestowitzNot trolling..Jun 13 22:04
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/nj3ma/statuses/80339781657178112Jun 13 22:05
TechrightsBot-tr@nj3ma: On the #techrights IRC channel on freenode.netJun 13 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google #Censorship Initiative Thwarted by ‘Gee! No Evil!’ Add-On - http://bit.ly/iIEfED ah, hackers - bless 'em #firefoxJun 13 22:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The People Who Support !Linux: Windows Turned Linux Admin | Jennifer Cloer http://ping.fm/mRsxKJun 13 22:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Great interview with Assange. Include's Ai Weiwei's last known question http://t.co/EGwgxJqJun 13 22:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Does government protection of intellectual property harm free market? - http://bit.ly/kWoQJQ good to see broad political spectrum agreeingJun 13 22:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan: Fruit Ninja is so totally addictive :) totally messy and super fun, find it on AppUp here http://bit.ly/jMMUoBJun 13 22:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fruit Ninja - Check out this app from the Intel AppUp(SM) center .::. Size~: 40.73 KBJun 13 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Qt Creator Plug-in & Other New Features, But Wait There's More To Come :) http://intel.ly/l08JcEJun 13 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Want to learn how to monetize your apps? Learn how at the Intel London #appup application lab http://intel.ly/kGTC6hJun 13 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: We have a "Qtest Mobile App Port Contest" winner! : http://mge.bz/bYJun 13 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed.Jun 13 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Rojadirecta Sues US Government, Homeland Security & ICE Over Domain Seizure - http://bit.ly/mpwrZe important move #copyrightJun 13 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @tlaukkanen Silently released new version of my Facebook app Kasvopus. Now with Places support. Try it out http://t.co/xX3mW7v #Maemo #QtJun 13 22:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @JeffKaplan88 @debbryant #Portugal launches #opendata site on gov spending bit.ly/jHXBjZ (eng transl of site) #opengov >>niceJun 13 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why #Samsung is about to become the smartphone king - http://bit.ly/mxQcqK useful analysis #androidJun 13 22:38
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DaemonFCsomeone is getting sued for $27.53 Jun 13 22:40
DaemonFCwho sues over that? really? :)Jun 13 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: #Qt #Labs Blog - Qt Contributors' Summit Last Minute Updates http://ow.ly/1ddupRJun 13 22:42
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DaemonFCI smell an inevitable fork coming, of QTJun 13 22:42
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DaemonFChttp://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0613/Jobs-council-to-Obama-Here-s-how-to-create-one-million-jobs-quicklyJun 13 22:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jobs council to Obama: Here's how to create one million jobs quickly - CSMonitor.com .::. Size~: 74.84 KBJun 13 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OggCamp email is exploding. Can't keep pace....Jun 13 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Putting Facebook’s rumored $100 billion IPO in perspective - http://tnw.co/m4pfx1 nicely done; pity the numbers have started going wrong wayJun 13 22:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Putting Facebook’s rumored $100 billion IPO in perspective - Industry .::. Size~: 78.21 KBJun 13 22:47
DaemonFCor what I call "Excuse me sir, have you properly winterized this cardboard box?"Jun 13 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Testing mustard 0.1.15rc2.Jun 13 22:48
DaemonFC"4:35 - Abby Phillp, Politico.com, talks Weiner jobs, and debates."Jun 13 22:49
DaemonFCroflJun 13 22:49
DaemonFCoops :DJun 13 22:49
MinceRgnJun 13 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcJun 13 22:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh gods, Wesley Crusher....Jun 13 22:52
DaemonFChttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/13/black-widow-dies-before-facing-charges-related-to-string-dead-husbands/Jun 13 22:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Black Widow' Grandmother Dies Before Facing Charges Related to String of Dead Husbands - FoxNews.com .::. Size~: 64.07 KBJun 13 22:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @johnsu01 bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin bitcoinJun 13 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @newbintraining derpJun 13 22:53
DaemonFCFacebook is losing lots of membersJun 13 22:55
DaemonFChttp://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/13/has-facebook-peaked-drop-uk-usersJun 13 22:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Has Facebook peaked? New drop in number of UK users | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 89.01 KBJun 13 22:55
DaemonFChttp://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9217581/Facebook_loses_6M_U.S._users_in_MayJun 13 22:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook loses 6M U.S. users in May - Computerworld .::. Size~: 128.69 KBJun 13 22:56
DaemonFCmore and more people must be catching on that what they post on Facebook can be retrieved by a Google SearchJun 13 22:56
DaemonFCit has this tendency to lose jobs and torpedo job interviewsJun 13 22:57
DaemonFCand sometimes images shared on Facebook even get placed in evidence during a criminal trialJun 13 22:57
DaemonFCthings on Facebook come back to bite people in a lot of waysJun 13 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Another burrito, another bunch of foil for my foil ballJun 13 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] AfterDawn: Samsung will become world's largest smartphone maker this quarter http://ping.fm/APMPlJun 13 22:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samsung will become world's largest smartphone maker this quarter - AfterDawn .::. Size~: 57.19 KBJun 13 22:58
GoForbes28Ahahaha!Jun 13 22:59
GoForbes28And to think, all those trying to pressure me into using FacebookJun 13 22:59
GoForbes28I tell them, YOU use IdenticaJun 13 22:59
DaemonFCGoForbes28, There was a woman in Canada who was on some kind of disability for depression, then an investigator saw a picture on her Facebook with her smilingJun 13 23:00
DaemonFCand they used that as a reason to throw her off of disabilityJun 13 23:00
GoForbes28Oh noesJun 13 23:01
GoForbes28all these IRC chats and identi dents will prevent me from being hired by Microsoft or the Conservative Party of Canada :PJun 13 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] I'm snickering at the !emacs mode line saying (Doctor Fill). That's where I'm at.Jun 13 23:02
GoForbes28hi sebsebsebJun 13 23:02
DaemonFCthe US onlt has a right wing and a right-leaning centrist party Jun 13 23:02
GoForbes28lolJun 13 23:02
GoForbes28they aren't right-wingJun 13 23:02
GoForbes28what's with all the corporate subsidies?Jun 13 23:03
DaemonFCthe only places you find elected officials that stand a chance of not being corrupt are maybe city and county governmentsJun 13 23:03
GoForbes28lol, indeedJun 13 23:03
GoForbes28and Ralph NaderJun 13 23:03
DaemonFCGoForbes28, The Indiana state government (with a Republican majority) have been using their time in office over the last several years to take away home rule abilities of local governmentsJun 13 23:04
DaemonFCit's getting to the point where they're telling cities how they can zoneJun 13 23:04
DaemonFCand private businesses if patrons can smokeJun 13 23:04
DaemonFCpretty soon they're going to want to take over the dog catching I betJun 13 23:05
DaemonFC:)Jun 13 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @threethirty ♻ @JPBarlow: Lulzsec hacks U.S. Senate http://bit.ly/mw80ScJun 13 23:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lulzsec hacks U.S. Senate - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 31.65 KBJun 13 23:05
DaemonFCGoForbes28, There's now an Indiana state law that says I can go onto private property with a loaded gunJun 13 23:05
DaemonFCand that the owner might be breaking the law if he tells me to leaveJun 13 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pixel Qi Creates Super-Efficient & Cost-Effective Solar-Powered Tablet - http://bit.ly/mebhFP promising technology (v @eebrah)Jun 13 23:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pixel Qi Moving Towards Solar Powered Tablets | Inhabitat - Green Design Will Save the World .::. Size~: 175.05 KBJun 13 23:07
DaemonFCthey've been pushing to get rid of home rule for a whileJun 13 23:07
GoForbes28niceJun 13 23:07
DaemonFCthere was a law left over from "Unigov" that said all cities that get past a certain population size have to merge with the county governmentJun 13 23:08
DaemonFCthe law was mainly intended so that Indianapolis and Marion County were one government Jun 13 23:08
GoForbes28It seems that privatization is being transfered from common sense things to stupid things, like a water supplyJun 13 23:08
DaemonFCwell, 20 years later with the laws on the book still, Fort Wayne gets to that sizeJun 13 23:08
DaemonFCand they were going to have to merge with Allen CountyJun 13 23:09
DaemonFC:)Jun 13 23:09
DaemonFCso the legislature rewrote the population requirements Jun 13 23:09
GoForbes28on something completely hilarious and unrelatedJun 13 23:09
DaemonFCso now there's Fort Wayne, which is 97% of the area of Allen CountyJun 13 23:09
DaemonFCand there has to be two levels of government for thatJun 13 23:10
GoForbes28I was on a computer with Windows and Norton (yep...)Jun 13 23:10
DaemonFCbecause of the 3% they are not occupying yetJun 13 23:10
schestowitz[22:59] <GoForbes28> And to think, all those trying to pressure me into using FacebookJun 13 23:10
schestowitzHad a chat with a mate about it todayJun 13 23:10
GoForbes28and it has one of those addons in Firefox that add "Safe Searching"Jun 13 23:10
schestowitzAnd I told him, on the Net he does not existJun 13 23:10
schestowitzhe said he was "un-networkedJun 13 23:10
DaemonFCNorton 360Jun 13 23:10
GoForbes28which declared that The Pirate Bay and Btjunkies are safeJun 13 23:10
DaemonFCwhat does the 360 mean? the MB of RAM it uses?Jun 13 23:10
GoForbes28which they are, I'm just amazedJun 13 23:10
schestowitzThen I told him his daughter can upload photos of him doing silly things in dinnerJun 13 23:10
cubezzznorton :)Jun 13 23:10
schestowitzAnd tag him. He LOLedJun 13 23:11
GoForbes28schestowitz: Hell, with that picture recognition, that's done automaticalylJun 13 23:11
schestowitzI knowJun 13 23:11
schestowitzServing the stalkersJun 13 23:11
GoForbes28schestowitz: I bet that a future Windows version will force you to get a Facebook account before you can use WindowsJun 13 23:12
DaemonFCmost of the people on my Facebook are family, some friendsJun 13 23:12
schestowitzwhat does th picture recog. do exactly?Jun 13 23:12
GoForbes28kinda like the mandatory steam account to play f**king video gamesJun 13 23:12
schestowitzI read about it, didn't get down to specificsJun 13 23:12
DaemonFCbut the thing that bugs me is all the people I don't know that "want to be friends"Jun 13 23:12
GoForbes28schestowitz: RMS posted a bullitinJun 13 23:12
schestowitzGoForbes28: and to get access to some 'abums'Jun 13 23:12
schestowitzIt's blackmail of sortsJun 13 23:12
GoForbes28yepJun 13 23:12
GoForbes28ready for some more hilarity?Jun 13 23:13
schestowitz"Your friends WANT to chat with you"Jun 13 23:13
schestowitzOr:Jun 13 23:13
ThistleWebimagine apple buying facebook for integration to itunes, they already force you to link credit card info to itunes to buy a deviceJun 13 23:13
schestowitz"you can't see photos"Jun 13 23:13
GoForbes28"See above. Steam isn't the DRM, Steamworks is. And I find it much more convenient to have every game I play in the same place with automatic updates (to make sure bugs are fixed ASAP) and a community behind it where I can see what my friends are playing, and be able to join them in just a few clicks. That "non-essential crap" that makes gaming social and fun."Jun 13 23:13
schestowitzUNLESS you give us all your detailsJun 13 23:13
GoForbes28http://www.bc-central.com/forums/index.php/topic,8515.0.htmlJun 13 23:13
schestowitzThat's why they had many joiners, people don't naturally walk into trapsJun 13 23:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The "PROTECT IP" Bill .::. Size~: 109.19 KBJun 13 23:13
TechrightsBot-trThat's why they had many joiners, people don't naturally walk into trapsJun 13 23:13
DaemonFCschestowitz, What was worse was all that Hi5 spamJun 13 23:14
GoForbes28I'm trying to get my friends to get an Identi accountJun 13 23:14
DaemonFCyou send an email to someone, it adds you to their contact list, they join one of these abusive spam sitesJun 13 23:15
DaemonFCand then they tell it "sure, parse my address book"Jun 13 23:16
DaemonFCnow you get spammed out of nowhere Jun 13 23:16
DaemonFCthen the place sells your email address to more spammersJun 13 23:16
DaemonFCand after a while you have to abandon your account because of the spam volumeJun 13 23:16
schestowitzTrue..Jun 13 23:17
schestowitzToday I found out something oddJun 13 23:17
schestowitzLinkedIn *****Jun 13 23:17
schestowitzSomone added me with another E-mail addyJun 13 23:17
schestowitzI then click, "ok, I'll be your 'connection'.... whetever"Jun 13 23:18
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schestowitzAnother boolan DB for idiots to p[retend to be pipularJun 13 23:18
schestowitzBut then...Jun 13 23:18
schestowitzI click OKJun 13 23:18
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DaemonFCthose social network sites are pretty sleazy Jun 13 23:18
schestowitzAnd the adds another E-mail address of mine without tellling meJun 13 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] senate.gov runs on Solaris, gets owned. http://lulzsecurity.com/releases/senate.gov.txt #lulzJun 13 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @evan GLOCKENSPIEL CONSIDERED HARMFULJun 13 23:18
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting text/plain typeJun 13 23:18
DaemonFCthey try to look more professional than they areJun 13 23:18
Viper550I'm just wondering, if this site is pushing a "opensuse needs to be seperated from Atttachmate/etc" view, why don't we do anything about it?Jun 13 23:19
schestowitzto make matterrs worse, it makes it MY DEAFAULTJun 13 23:19
schestowitzANd then I get linkedin ju8nk to a work E-mail addres of mineJun 13 23:19
schestowitzI hope LinkedIn crashes and burnsJun 13 23:19
DaemonFCmaybe they'll add farmville Jun 13 23:19
DaemonFC:)Jun 13 23:20
schestowitzViper550: for same reason as GroklawJun 13 23:20
schestowitzWe don't have a desire to maintain SUSEJun 13 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh and cold fusion?Jun 13 23:20
schestowitzWe just tell them they're being exploited and are under threatJun 13 23:20
schestowitz[23:18] <DaemonFC> they try to look more professional than they areJun 13 23:20
schestowitzNo.. see...Jun 13 23:20
schestowitzThey just look *retarded*Jun 13 23:21
schestowitzLinkedIn is not a social networkJun 13 23:21
Viper550I tried to bring up discussion about this on a suse irc channel, and it just, well, didn't go anywhereJun 13 23:21
schestowitzIt's supposed to be people's CV thingJun 13 23:21
schestowitzThey could just upload a CV to their siteJun 13 23:21
schestowitzFacebook is a farting about site... games, chat, sectingJun 13 23:21
schestowitz*xtingJun 13 23:21
schestowitzIt's not really designed to be a stream like identicaJun 13 23:22
schestowitzIdentica doesn't care who I amJun 13 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Why am I noit surprised. #ColdFusionSucksJun 13 23:22
schestowitzAnd my photosJun 13 23:22
Viper550and I meant to say, "why doesn't anyone do anything about it"Jun 13 23:22
schestowitzIt's not about the users usually, just what they broadcastJun 13 23:22
GoForbes28the geolocation thing is a little annoying but easily avertedJun 13 23:22
schestowitzLinkedIn broadscasts, "I'm so important"Jun 13 23:23
schestowitzFacebook broadscasts, "I have many friends " [whom I never met]Jun 13 23:23
schestowitzIdentica just.... broadcastsJun 13 23:23
GoForbes28lol, I find LinkedIn completely useless every time I've enquired informationJun 13 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Why #Samsung is about to become the smartphone king - http://bit.ly/mxQcqK useful analysis #androidJun 13 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @nancyphill88 Review of the GearPod Survival Kit - *** READ ME *** GearPods Survival kit from www.gearpods.com GearPods Wilderness... ...Jun 13 23:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Samsung is about to become the smartphone king — Mobile Technology News .::. Size~: 73.42 KBJun 13 23:23
schestowitzI use it against people sometimesJun 13 23:23
schestowitzTo find out their conflicts of interestJun 13 23:24
schestowitzFrom my experience, it's just fodderJun 13 23:24
GoForbes28yepJun 13 23:24
schestowitzWhat employer would go their seeking employees anyway?Jun 13 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] It occurs to me that I know next to nothing about the Byzantine Empire. The German educational system is pathetic!Jun 13 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @krmaher @jilliancyork Apparently on the Internet, no one knows you're a dude. bit.ly/90ChUF >>nicely doneJun 13 23:25
GoForbes28Stalkers?  Out for revenge?Jun 13 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Coming soon to a bookstore near you: @bkuhn and @webmink - The History of the Decline and Fall of OpenOffice.orgJun 13 23:28
DaemonFChttp://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/061311-mark-shuttleworth.html?hpg1=bnJun 13 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chrome nearly replaced Firefox in Ubuntu Linux, Mark Shuttleworth says .::. Size~: 123.93 KBJun 13 23:29
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DaemonFCyay, nonfree softwareJun 13 23:30
DaemonFC"DE ICAZA: GNOME creator respects proprietary software, can't wait for iPad 2"Jun 13 23:33
DaemonFClolJun 13 23:33
schestowitzhe has almost vanishedJun 13 23:33
schestowitzWorking in that startup of monoJun 13 23:34
schestowitzmono got demotedJun 13 23:34
schestowitzTo experimentJun 13 23:34
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DaemonFCif Ubuntu has so much confidence in AppArmor, they would ship Firefox with an enforced profileJun 13 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] A Christian preacher talking about how Gibbon misunderstood Christianity is about as impartial as asking a politician about his owqn party.Jun 13 23:37
DaemonFC"huttleworth considered getting the iPhone but was put off by Apple's antenna problem."Jun 13 23:39
DaemonFC*ShuttleworthJun 13 23:39
DaemonFC"But Shuttleworth takes a measured tone toward Redmond, even complementing what he called "really exciting ideas" in Windows 8."Jun 13 23:40
DaemonFC"Shuttleworth called Microsoft's patent lawsuits related to Android "acts of desperation," but said the company's attitude toward open source is maturing on the whole."Jun 13 23:41
neighborleefriend is going to macos X soon as she can, I guess due to win8 hardware concerns ?<haven't checked>Jun 13 23:41
neighborleelolJun 13 23:41
DaemonFC"Shuttleworth says there is "every reason to believe" Canonical and Microsoft will come to terms on a partnership to run Ubuntu Server more easily on Hyper-V, Microsoft's virtualization platform."Jun 13 23:41
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DaemonFC""We have constructive conversations with them about people running Ubuntu on their virtualization service, and vice versa," he said."Jun 13 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @evan RT @rpcutts @evan that's the pinnacle of microblogging right there. You may as well shut down status.net.Jun 13 23:42
DaemonFCwell, he's kissing Microsoft's assJun 13 23:42
neighborleeI get that.Jun 13 23:42
neighborleeHENCE mono ???Jun 13 23:42
DaemonFCapologizes for their patent trollingJun 13 23:42
neighborleewhen others RUN from it ? ;)<most do anyway>Jun 13 23:42
neighborleeof courseJun 13 23:42
DaemonFCand then is excited over Windows 8Jun 13 23:42
neighborleeyupJun 13 23:42
DaemonFCand wants a deal to run Ubuntu on Hyper-VJun 13 23:42
neighborleeyupJun 13 23:42
DaemonFCthis guy is all about free softwareJun 13 23:43
neighborleedoes not take genius to figure that one ;)Jun 13 23:43
DaemonFCjust like jono :)Jun 13 23:43
oiaohmhttp://www.mono-project.com/news/  This has been very silent.Jun 13 23:43
neighborleelolJun 13 23:43
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neighborleeoiaohm, yayJun 13 23:43
DaemonFCprobably silent because Novell still owns itJun 13 23:43
neighborleewhats left of novel lolJun 13 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. This guy is saying "Christianity is obviously of heavenly origin" and he calls himself a historian. ROFL LULZJun 13 23:43
oiaohmhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pathscale_ekopath4_open  Ok new open source complier on the blockJun 13 23:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] PathScale Open-Sources The EKOPath 4 Compiler Suite .::. Size~: 22.68 KBJun 13 23:44
oiaohmOk will be a new open source complierJun 13 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] People who argue that ecclesiastical wonders are real and call themselves historians need to be taken out the back and shot. That is all.Jun 13 23:45
DaemonFCoiaohm, Where does GCC fail that this new one succeeds?Jun 13 23:47
DaemonFCin other words, is it a yawn-a-thon and something the BSD people will carry back to use?Jun 13 23:47
DaemonFCI've never had a problem with GCC 4.x, it's a great compiler collectionJun 13 23:48
DaemonFC3.x and earlier were, roughJun 13 23:48
DaemonFCbut 4.x is greatJun 13 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 443 relays! Help the #torchallenge get to 500. Thanks to @DasutinD @alfonzo1955 @patrickegleason @somnambulist_nw @5hreyans and @skylerkatz!Jun 13 23:48
oiaohmThe new complier is GPL licenced.Jun 13 23:49
DaemonFCoh wonderful :)Jun 13 23:49
oiaohmSo the BSD guys are not going to like it that much.Jun 13 23:49
neighborleenon starterJun 13 23:49
oiaohmAnd it is truly a bettter optimiser than what gcc is.Jun 13 23:49
DaemonFCneighborlee, a proprietary application going GPL is usually a good thingJun 13 23:49
DaemonFCespecially if the company behind it is changing their wicked waysJun 13 23:50
oiaohmhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pathscale_ekopath4_open&num=4Jun 13 23:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] PathScale Open-Sources The EKOPath 4 Compiler Suite .::. Size~: 18.14 KBJun 13 23:50
oiaohmPage 4Jun 13 23:50
oiaohmPlease note the complier was able to sell for 2000 dollarsJun 13 23:50
DaemonFCohhhhJun 13 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] If the #DailyMail is so worried about the sexualisation of children, all they have to do is hit 'delete' http://is.gd/zUlMMJJun 13 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @fabsh: People who argue that ecclesiastical wonders are real and call themselves historians need to be taken out the back and shot.Jun 13 23:50
DaemonFCit's GPL v 3 evenJun 13 23:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Charlie Brooker: If the Daily Mail is so worried about the sexualisation of children, all they have to do is hit 'delete' | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 238.16 KBJun 13 23:50
DaemonFCmost malicious companies will only agree to use version 2Jun 13 23:50
DaemonFCmaybeJun 13 23:50
DaemonFC:)Jun 13 23:50
oiaohmPathscale is a cluster computer supporter.Jun 13 23:51
oiaohmBulding X86 code is not important any more.Jun 13 23:51
oiaohmBuilding gpu optimised code is.Jun 13 23:51
DaemonFCit looks like it optimizes the resulting binary a lot betterJun 13 23:51
oiaohmYep.Jun 13 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] These ninjas of anonymity are getting the #torchallenge to 500 relays: @excepttheweasel @FOSSmaniac @yit @superblock @thehermit & @TomfluffJun 13 23:52
oiaohmSmaller and faster binary on adverage.Jun 13 23:52
oiaohmIts been one of the compliers I look at each year and go can I afford it.Jun 13 23:53
DaemonFCGCC 4.6 is only marginally better than 4.5 when it comes to performance of the resulting binariesJun 13 23:53
DaemonFC5-10% usuallyJun 13 23:53
DaemonFCbut what I'd like to see is GCC 4.6 with the dragonegg pluginJun 13 23:54
DaemonFCagainst this Pathscale oneJun 13 23:54
DaemonFCthat would be interesting Jun 13 23:54
oiaohmdragonegg method is how Pathscale links into newer gcc'sJun 13 23:54
oiaohmIts going to be interesting to say the least.Jun 13 23:55
DaemonFCoh, Pathscale can be a GCC plugin too?Jun 13 23:55
*DaemonFC only skimmedJun 13 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Christianity is the very worst example in this respect.Jun 13 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] What I've always hated most about religion is the mind-bending propaganda that turns people's very words against them.Jun 13 23:55
oiaohmYepJun 13 23:55
DaemonFCthe last time I had bad performance out of GCC, I mean real bad was the 2.x branchJun 13 23:55
oiaohmPlugin feature is not in the artical clearly.Jun 13 23:56
DaemonFCI can defend Red Hat's "2.96" thingJun 13 23:56
DaemonFCbecause earlier builds were even more horribleJun 13 23:56

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