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oiaohmDoes it have encrypted links between you and server. YesJun 25 00:00
oiaohmDoes it require a username and password to access the data yesJun 25 00:00
oiaohmDoes it have a team monitoring secuirty yesJun 25 00:00
schestowitzoiaohm: just caught up with http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-splits-up-its-xaml-team-whats-the-fallout/9807Jun 25 00:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft splits up its XAML team: What's the fallout? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 135.38 KBJun 25 00:00
ThistleWebI dunno the details, just saying they have a paid option which gets you a better deal and more control than the free options for much the same thingJun 25 00:00
oiaohmGet three yes's and you have passed the requirement for privacy of usa school  kid data.Jun 25 00:01
oiaohmI am not kidding.Jun 25 00:01
oiaohmIts that low.Jun 25 00:01
oiaohmAnd most education systems around the world requirements are that low.Jun 25 00:01
oiaohmschestowitz: Windows 8 I am expecting the screaming from the time of Windows 95 on dos programmers.Jun 25 00:04
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oiaohmschestowitz: Reason I expect Windows 8 to be extream is MS has lost control and will attempt another Windows 95 like event to get control back.Jun 25 00:08
oiaohmBefore Windows 95 MS was also getting massively cloned and competed with.Jun 25 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] http://damnyouautocorrect.com/ #smartphones? smart? ... I think notJun 25 00:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quick Look at #Sabayon 6 http://ur1.ca/4ixi0 "Sabayon 6 was my first foray into testing out the Entropy package manager though" #gnu #linuxJun 25 00:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Quick Look at Sabayon 6 - Techgage .::. Size~: 28.04 KBJun 25 00:25
schestowitzoiaohm:thanks for the commentJun 25 00:26
schestowitzWill quote some tomorrowJun 25 00:26
schestowitzI have a questionJun 25 00:27
schestowitzHow come for a few years it has seemed like upon reboot sometimes some fonts are rendered smaller/larger?Jun 25 00:27
schestowitzQuite randomlyJun 25 00:27
schestowitzAs if some process determines DPI and sets some font size for drawking in the DEJun 25 00:28
schestowitzI did boot into a new monitor, but sometimes even without it there is variation across bootsJun 25 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux is all growed up now http://ur1.ca/4ixlm "thousands of developers and contributors have poured their skills and hearts into [it]"Jun 25 00:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux is all growed up now | ITworld .::. Size~: 114.37 KBJun 25 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Very odd piece (IMHO) generalising "open source" and playing "enterprise" game to paint that as analogous to proprietary http://ur1.ca/4ixp1Jun 25 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Linux unready for the enterprise because it's open source? And Apache? Truly mystifying piece from ZDNet UK editor.. http://ur1.ca/3wlx4Jun 25 00:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open source's disdain for enterprise | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 50.15 KBJun 25 00:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The World According to ZDNet: Vista 7 a Whole Area of IT | Techrights .::. Size~: 114.05 KBJun 25 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Diet doughnuts? http://i.imgur.com/Glpqn.jpg BTW, too busy fixing my bike, so almost no dents today... :-(Jun 25 00:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People behind #Debian - Sam Hartman, #Kerberos maintainer http://ur1.ca/4ixv4 people behind the universal OS that runs millions of machinesJun 25 00:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: People behind Debian: Sam Hartman, Kerberos package maintainer .::. Size~: 56.92 KBJun 25 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat posts bumper financial figures, touts #GNU #Linux popularity http://ur1.ca/4ixy7 Linux leads to some people's prosperityJun 25 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red hat posts bumper financial figures, touts linux popularity- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 63.72 KBJun 25 00:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell Congress: Investigate Clarence Thomas! http://bit.ly/mRGgqn @CREDOMobile @ChrisMurphyCTJun 25 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Dell , dozens of other companies, join Red Hat’s fight against #VMware http://ur1.ca/4iyes #Linux is a safe bet to partner with thenJun 25 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tell Congress: Call for a House Judiciary Committee investigation of Clarence Thomas .::. Size~: 20.01 KBJun 25 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dell, dozens of other companies, join Red Hat’s fight against VMware  | Triangle Business Journal .::. Size~: 85.93 KBJun 25 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple has new lawsuit against Linux/Android. Apple & Microsoft are scared of the future. Companies using Linux more valuable than MSFT+APPLJun 25 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux in More Airplanes, Now as Tablets http://ur1.ca/4iylr taxed by Microsoft, but at least no Apple or MicrosoftJun 25 00:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Airlines To Use Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1 For  In-Flight Entertainment | Muktware .::. Size~: 36.79 KBJun 25 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @ashcrow ♻ @edythemighty Japanese pop star revealed to be computer generated, fans in shock http://t.co/ErbKzjr via @NerveJun 25 01:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Japanese pop star revealed to be computer generated, fans in shock | Nerve.com .::. Size~: 38.31 KBJun 25 01:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hello !Identiverse :)Jun 25 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I apologise for using the word stupid earlier. Like many words it is easy in the moment. #noexcusesJun 25 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Only in tempe can getting barros turn in to a two hour ordeal.Jun 25 01:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Morrissey.... qualityJun 25 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/06/21/is-there-life-after-our-first-release/Jun 25 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does !MeeGo stand a chance against iOS/Android? http://ur1.ca/4iz0wJun 25 01:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is there life after our first release? | Mageia Blog (English) .::. Size~: 28.9 KBJun 25 01:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Does MeeGo stand a chance against iOS/Android? - International Business Times .::. Size~: 79.24 KBJun 25 01:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] $3 billion in sales is Red Hat goal http://ur1.ca/4iz25 aiming high now that #Linux adoption explodesJun 25 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SeaMonkey 2.2 runs with the rest of Mozilla pack, debuts in beta http://ur1.ca/4iz3o also new: from IBT: "5 reasons to opt for Firefox 5"Jun 25 01:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: $3 billion in sales is Red Hat goal -            Technology  - NewsObserver.com .::. Size~: 111.76 KBJun 25 01:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SeaMonkey 2.2 runs with the rest of the Mozilla pack, debuts in beta - International Business Times .::. Size~: 74.75 KBJun 25 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Switched to Chuck Berry 1972 concert.Jun 25 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Era of Windows/x86 is Ending, Says Dvorak http://ur1.ca/4iz8t "So, goodbye, Wintel. We knew thee well. Hello, Apple and Linux."Jun 25 01:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wintel, Death by a Thousand Budget Cuts | John C. Dvorak |  PCMag.com .::. Size~: 99.18 KBJun 25 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Hackers publish "private" Tony Blair info http://ur1.ca/4izcuJun 25 01:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hackers publish "private" Tony Blair info - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 31.33 KBJun 25 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat (RHT) Earnings Estimates Increased by UBS AG (UBS) Analysts http://ur1.ca/4izc6 More Rosy Predictions for #GNU #Linux LeaderJun 25 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] What happened before the Vancouver riot kiss http://ur1.ca/4izcz #Canada is harboring terroristsJun 25 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Chuck Berry.... marvelous!Jun 25 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Where is that dunce K. Egbert and her 2006-2011 predictions of Red Hat being sunk or sold? Analysts trash a stock, then hide under a rock.Jun 25 01:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat (RHT) Earnings Estimates Increased by UBS AG (UBS) Analysts | NewsyStocks.com .::. Size~: 36.32 KBJun 25 01:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What happened before the Vancouver riot kiss - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 41.85 KBJun 25 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mexican Congress votes to reject ACTA http://ur1.ca/4ize7Jun 25 01:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to be a financial analyst: wear suit, speak w/ confidence, flood the press, groom image w/ brand like "USB". If right, crow, else hide.Jun 25 01:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mexican Congress votes to reject ACTA - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 21.13 KBJun 25 01:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Lawsuit Claims Sony Canned Security Staff Just Before Data Breach http://ur1.ca/4izf2Jun 25 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Data-Mining Ban Struck Down By US Supreme Court http://ur1.ca/4izfeJun 25 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to be lobbyist masquerading as 'analyst': pretend to be on opposite side (choose name like FOSSpatents to attack FOSS), spam journalistsJun 25 01:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lawsuit Claims Sony Canned Security Staff Just Before Data Breach - Slashdot .::. Size~: 132.93 KBJun 25 01:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Data-Mining Ban Struck Down By US Supreme Court - Slashdot .::. Size~: 136.83 KBJun 25 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #FBI steals Instapaper servers http://ur1.ca/4izfoJun 25 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #LulzSec leaks Arizona law enforcement papers http://ur1.ca/4izfvJun 25 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Human Genome Contaminated With Mycoplasma DNA http://ur1.ca/4izfy !scienceJun 25 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Wintel, Death by a Thousand Budget Cuts http://tinyurl.com/6xa9yrc !microsoft !windows !mvp !mvpbuzz !windows7 !wp7Jun 25 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] USPTO Rejects Many of Oracle's Android Claims http://ur1.ca/4izg3 !javaJun 25 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Woman who filmed cop from own yard charged with obstructing his administration of government http://ur1.ca/4izge #policestateJun 25 01:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FBI steals Instapaper servers  - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 103.61 KBJun 25 01:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LulzSec leaks Arizona law enforcement papers (Updated with excerpts) - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 297.11 KBJun 25 01:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Human Genome Contaminated With Mycoplasma DNA - Slashdot .::. Size~: 135.59 KBJun 25 01:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wintel, Death by a Thousand Budget Cuts | John C. Dvorak |  PCMag.com .::. Size~: 99.18 KBJun 25 01:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: USPTO Rejects Many of Oracle's Android Claims - Slashdot .::. Size~: 134.01 KBJun 25 01:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Woman who filmed cop from own yard charged with obstructing his administration of government - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 237.94 KBJun 25 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to be trade analyst (like Gartner):garner VC funds from covered companies, sell bias to investors, bully disobedient journalists, use PRJun 25 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Red Hat (RHT) Earnings Estimates Increased by UBS AG (UBS) Analysts http://tinyurl.com/6xpgkuwJun 25 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Human eye protein senses Earth's magnetism http://ur1.ca/4hxh9 !scienceJun 25 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to become successful patent troll: choose target based on conflicts of interest. acquire necessary patent ammunition, file suit in TexasJun 25 01:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat (RHT) Earnings Estimates Increased by UBS AG (UBS) Analysts | NewsyStocks.com .::. Size~: 36.32 KBJun 25 01:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Human eye protein senses Earth's magnetism .::. Size~: 62.49 KBJun 25 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Utah fires its state archaeologists to cover up big find slowing down public works http://ur1.ca/4izheJun 25 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: More Opposition to UK Anti-Piracy Law http://tinyurl.com/5tt2b4hJun 25 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Georgia's anti-immigrant law leaves millions in crops rotting in the fields http://ur1.ca/4izhzJun 25 01:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Utah fires its state archaeologists      | The Salt Lake Tribune .::. Size~: 118.37 KBJun 25 01:32
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Georgia's anti-immigrant law leaves millions in crops rotting in the fields - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 243.86 KBJun 25 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to become Microsoft booster: republish PR from Waggener Edstrom (tweak to make it look original), wait for invitation (job at Microsoft)Jun 25 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Toronto police lies about swearing off kettling http://ur1.ca/4izi4Jun 25 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] uTorrent for Linux? Whats the point? Especially when it isn't OSS.... what possible advantage is there for having uTorrent?Jun 25 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] JP Morgan Chase settles US mortgage fraud case for pennies http://ur1.ca/4izib #terroristsJun 25 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to become Apple shill with inside access to the company: ask Daniel EranJun 25 01:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Toronto police swear off kettling - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 57.34 KBJun 25 01:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - JP Morgan Chase settles US mortgage fraud case .::. Size~: 2.6 KBJun 25 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz Era of Windows/x86 is Ending, Says Dvorak http://ur1.ca/4iz8t "So, goodbye, Wintel. We knew thee well. Hello, Apple and ...Jun 25 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz Does !MeeGo stand a chance against iOS/Android? http://ur1.ca/4iz0wJun 25 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz #Linux in More Airplanes, Now as Tablets http://ur1.ca/4iylr taxed by Microsoft, but at least no Apple or MicrosoftJun 25 01:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wintel, Death by a Thousand Budget Cuts | John C. Dvorak |  PCMag.com .::. Size~: 99.18 KBJun 25 01:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Does MeeGo stand a chance against iOS/Android? - International Business Times .::. Size~: 77.71 KBJun 25 01:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Airlines To Use Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1 For  In-Flight Entertainment | Muktware .::. Size~: 36.79 KBJun 25 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Got quite a few BluRay disks the wife bought me to watch....hopefully get a chance to watch a couple over the next few days.Jun 25 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And finally....replacing Nautilus with pcmanfm on a rig of mine....much lighter - Iove it!Jun 25 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @orcmid WooHoo! #ODF 1.2 Candidate OASIS Standard Enters 60-Day Public Review, prerequisite for balloting as OASIS Standard http://b ..Jun 25 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] For 2 yrs the US has been conducting a campaign of mass surveillance & data mining against the Arab world http://is.gd/kle01l #romasJun 25 01:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Romas/COIN - Echelon 2 .::. Size~: 26.71 KBJun 25 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Australia, Once Again, Seeks To Censor The Internet http://tinyurl.com/6gjynzeJun 25 01:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Australia, Once Again, Seeks To Censor The Internet | Techdirt .::. Size~: 33.73 KBJun 25 01:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If a new version of Firefox is released (no major changes break plugins),just press "OK" to upgrade. Who needs this FUD? http://ur1.ca/4izpeJun 25 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Debian Project News - June 24th, 2011 http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2011/10/Jun 25 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And that is definitely me done for the night. Tried my best to catch up with the news...take care dentiverse..Jun 25 01:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox 7 - this is the Firefox you won't be waiting for - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 31.5 KBJun 25 01:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian Project News - June 24th, 2011 .::. Size~: 18.91 KBJun 25 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #Mozilla released at the same pace and called it Firefox 4.1.0 and 4.2.0, would businesses 'complain'? Seems like a FUD campaign to me.Jun 25 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Chrome released at a very steady pace with +1 version increments.How come same FUD campaign not coordinated against it?MSIE main benefactorJun 25 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Oh no! he is doing my dingaling #awfulJun 25 01:50
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/RgkWp.jpgJun 25 01:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tech Comics: "Apple Fanboy" http://ur1.ca/4izrr "he only has one button and he's only available in black and white." Good one...Jun 25 01:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Find the Apple Fanboy - Datamation .::. Size~: 90.06 KBJun 25 01:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @schestowitz If #Mozilla released at the same pace and called it Firefox 4.1.0 and 4.2.0, would businesses 'complain'? Seems like a F ...Jun 25 01:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Clever way to promote swimming schools http://i.imgur.com/eNZ72.jpg swam this afternoon, getting back into it ^_^Jun 25 01:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hanging on for Johnny B. Goode.Jun 25 01:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Chuck Berry finishes with Johnny B. Goode this makes me very happy.Jun 25 01:59
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/77190435Jun 25 02:01
TechrightsBot-tr@lnxwalt (lnxwalt140)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jun-11 00:54:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I think the new numbering is mostly just PR anyway. Firefox 5 doesn't appear to be perceptibly different than v. 4.Jun 25 02:01
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/IG6sR.jpgJun 25 02:11
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/aDvdv.jpgJun 25 02:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Singing again. "Her name was Lola. She was a showgirl ..." #CopacabanaNightJun 25 02:15
sebsebsebschestowitz: So want a Chromebook maybe?Jun 25 02:18
sebsebsebif they lower the price to about £200 I would be more tempted to get one, even though I don't really like Chromeium/Chrome much the interface and all that,  FIrefox :)Jun 25 02:19
sebsebseboh and ChromiumOS will be worth a vm try :DJun 25 02:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @milkymistvj #Milkymist #openhardware video synthesizer shown at #FISL by @rejon http://ping.fm/XjnapJun 25 02:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Going after a #troll for #barratry by @pchestek http://opensource.com/law/11/6/going-after-troll-champerty #osdcJun 25 03:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Going after a troll for barratry | opensource.com .::. Size~: 54.42 KBJun 25 03:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Solicitation of sources: A dangerous double standard from the Pentagon http://t.co/hd7DFnWJun 25 03:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Courage needed to protect whistleblowers | The Australian .::. Size~: 64.7 KBJun 25 03:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] People arrested at Glastonbury protesting against the tax status of U2. #musicishJun 25 03:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] LMAO Woman on BBC Newswatch complains about a BBC story saying we expect #BBC stories to be factual and unbiased. #newsJun 25 03:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Coffee is wearing off at last, up the wooden hill, goodnight identizens.Jun 25 04:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] No too off the mark. RT "It’s Singaporean vs others" - http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/6/25/focus/8965387Jun 25 04:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: It’s Singaporean vs others .::. Size~: 49 KBJun 25 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @bitcoininfo FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=22242.msg279544#msg279544 ...Jun 25 04:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU .::. Size~: 28.62 KBJun 25 04:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] salt, sugar (or any other spice); it is either too much or too little !OnlyInChina... again food that is way too salty. made for foreigners?Jun 25 05:00
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DaemonFChttp://www.destructoid.com/star-wars-galaxies-to-close-up-shop-in-december-204572.phtmlJun 25 05:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Star Wars Galaxies to close up shop in December -Destructoid .::. Size~: 82.28 KBJun 25 05:06
DaemonFChttp://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/articles/169444/20110624/brazilian-govt-knew-of-ancient-uncontacted-amazon-tribe-forbids-outside-contact.htmJun 25 05:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Brazilian govt knew of ancient uncontacted Amazon tribe, forbids outside contact - International Business Times .::. Size~: 43.78 KBJun 25 05:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] playing with irc bots and twitter !funtooJun 25 05:32
DaemonFChttp://gizmodo.com/5714570/tron-jeremy-the-movie-i-really-want-to-seeJun 25 05:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tron Jeremy: The Movie I Really Want to See .::. Size~: 122.97 KBJun 25 05:35
DaemonFChttp://gizmodo.com/5815175/oh-look-theres-a-dead-cruise-ship-in-google-mapsJun 25 05:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oh Look, There's a Dead Cruise Ship In Google Maps .::. Size~: 127.15 KBJun 25 05:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] we have glibc-2.11.2-r3 in the tree, masked - should fix issues with Java on modern Core i7 - test plz !funtooJun 25 05:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] been working on adding some nice little touches to our install docs. I think they have good flow now. !funtooJun 25 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Tried body scanner @ Hamburg airport. Result: Had to take off more stuff to get a less accurate result. Idiotic posture included. #failJun 25 05:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @glynmoody #Nokia's new #MeeGo-based N9 is set up for failure - http://bit.ly/lYAx56 "compelling product with little future ahead of ...Jun 25 05:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia's new MeeGo-based N9 is set up for failure .::. Size~: 39.73 KBJun 25 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] , I wonder if my twitter and identi.ca are linked now ~tJun 25 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] yep, looks like they are :)Jun 25 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Just checking ... Yep, still living in the future. #thefutureishereanditsawesomeJun 25 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] :)Jun 25 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] tweeting live from #funtoo on freenode tonight -- we have Azerthoth in the houseJun 25 06:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @speeddefrost I think I may have just fixed the internet. Hold on, wait, no I didn't.Jun 25 06:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] Whoa! zmedico is awake!Jun 25 06:19
GoForbes28hi a;;Jun 25 06:20
GoForbes28allJun 25 06:20
GoForbes28anybody left?Jun 25 06:20
sebsebsebGoForbes28: yepJun 25 06:31
sebsebsebGoForbes28: Been doing XP in a vmJun 25 06:32
sebsebsebso doing updatesJun 25 06:32
sebsebsebservice packsJun 25 06:32
GoForbes28That's the wonderous XPerience :PJun 25 06:34
GoForbes28lolJun 25 06:34
GoForbes28anywhoJun 25 06:34
sebsebsebGoForbes28: the installer says how it's the best Windows ever and suchJun 25 06:35
sebsebsebthe slide show you knowJun 25 06:35
sebsebsebuh yeah I guess it still is for most of the worlds computer usersJun 25 06:35
sebsebsebhence why Vista and Windows 7 are failures really, marketsharewise by a long wayJun 25 06:35
GoForbes28you can actually get rid of that slide show with nLiteJun 25 06:35
sebsebsebwell that was a while agoJun 25 06:35
GoForbes28it forces a windows 2000-style installation without the propgandaJun 25 06:36
sebsebsebthis disc came with SP1, so uhmm I know I could directly update to SP3Jun 25 06:36
sebsebseb,butJun 25 06:36
sebsebsebSP2 was offered on Windows update, so just done that,  SP3 is nextJun 25 06:36
GoForbes28Actually you can't SP1-Jun 25 06:36
GoForbes28>SP3Jun 25 06:36
GoForbes28you can only slipstreamJun 25 06:36
sebsebsebGoForbes28: not tried it yet, but my driving thorey DVD should work in this :)Jun 25 06:36
GoForbes28lolJun 25 06:36
sebsebsebyeah it's got DRMJun 25 06:37
sebsebsebthinks it's a pirate if ran in Wine, but nope it's not, it was boughtJun 25 06:37
GoForbes28You should have used Windows FLPJun 25 06:37
sebsebsebFLP ?Jun 25 06:37
GoForbes28takes up less spaceJun 25 06:37
sebsebsebwhat's FLP?Jun 25 06:37
GoForbes28"Fundamentals for Legacy Jun 25 06:37
GoForbes28PCs"Jun 25 06:37
sebsebsebas for space,  well I know there are edited versions around and such that could be used, but I want to be using a legal version really :)Jun 25 06:37
GoForbes28!google Windows FLP Jun 25 06:37
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Fundamentals_for_Legacy_PCsJun 25 06:37
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs - Microsoft | http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/software-assurance/fundamentals.aspxJun 25 06:37
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs | http://www.dandandin.net/windows-fundamentals-for-legacy-pcs.aspxJun 25 06:37
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Download windows FLP › isoHunt › the Bit Torrent search engine | http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/39937370/windows%2BFLP%3Ftab%3DsummaryJun 25 06:37
GoForbes28oops, that last one was not on purposeJun 25 06:38
sebsebsebso is it a pirate or not?Jun 25 06:38
sebsebsebwithout going on linksJun 25 06:38
GoForbes28*disclaimer: I am not responsible for Google link (looking at CSIS agents bursting into my room)Jun 25 06:38
sebsebsebGoForbes28: anyway space isn't really an issue, because I have got this on my 1TB external hard disk :)Jun 25 06:38
GoForbes28well it isJun 25 06:39
sebsebsebGoForbes28: it's a pirate thing?Jun 25 06:39
GoForbes28nahJun 25 06:39
GoForbes28it's a legitimate windows versionJun 25 06:39
sebsebsebohJun 25 06:39
sebsebsebokJun 25 06:39
sebsebsebwell didn't know about that, so installed XP the normal way into VMJun 25 06:39
GoForbes28just nearly impossible to getJun 25 06:39
GoForbes28Basically, it's Windows XP embedded with desktop applicationsJun 25 06:40
GoForbes28anywhpJun 25 06:40
sebsebsebGoForbes28: anyway XP SP1  for the virtual hard disk.  1.5GB  now after installing SP2 3.4GBJun 25 06:40
sebsebsebGoForbes28: and after XP SP3 I guess it will be about 6GBJun 25 06:41
GoForbes28backup filesJun 25 06:41
GoForbes28Makes GNU+Linux seem like diamonds by comparisonJun 25 06:41
GoForbes28anywhoJun 25 06:41
sebsebsebindeedJun 25 06:41
GoForbes28sebsebseb: I have some identi.ca questions you may be able to answerJun 25 06:41
sebsebsebmany distro's only take up about 1GB  for a default installJun 25 06:41
sebsebseband thenJun 25 06:41
sebsebsebwellJun 25 06:41
sebsebsebeven if add a load of apps, still only really taking up about 1GB  of space all that lotJun 25 06:42
GoForbes28yeahJun 25 06:42
sebsebsebGoForbes28: plus we got nice repos for most of these distro's :)Jun 25 06:42
GoForbes28yeahJun 25 06:42
sebsebseband don't have to re boot after installing updates, unless say it's a new kernel or something major like that, and well you knowJun 25 06:42
sebsebsebanyway yeah  most Linux distributions when it comes to an OS, so  te actsual OS stuff not  what programs can and can't be  run, yep so much better than Windows reallyJun 25 06:43
GoForbes28the closest you could get to replicating the experience is using PortableApps.com as primary applicationsJun 25 06:43
sebsebsebWindows itself isn't that good as an OS, it's just,  most of the apps most computer users want to run,  are made for Windows, and well you knowJun 25 06:43
GoForbes28yepJun 25 06:43
GoForbes28anywho, the question(s)Jun 25 06:43
sebsebseband drivers well,  WIndows is bad for that,  Linux has a lot of built in support, as  you know I expectJun 25 06:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Divided loyalties in Los Angeles: tonight, the #Angels beat the #Dodgers 8-3. #LABaseballJun 25 06:44
GoForbes28how do I send private messages on identi?Jun 25 06:44
sebsebseb,but Windows does  eye candy quite nice really, unlike Ubuntu for exampleJun 25 06:44
sebsebsebit's a dmJun 25 06:44
sebsebsebdirect messageJun 25 06:44
GoForbes28thought soJun 25 06:44
sebsebsebthere's a feature on the site for that some whereJun 25 06:44
GoForbes28thanksJun 25 06:44
sebsebseband I guess in a client even depending on what your runningJun 25 06:44
oiaohmHistroically Linux has seen desktop usage as toy usageJun 25 06:45
GoForbes28can you hide your dents?Jun 25 06:45
sebsebsebhide no?Jun 25 06:45
GoForbes28sebsebseb: Wiindows eye candy is very tastelessJun 25 06:45
sebsebsebdelete dents that you sent to everyone as in that are public, well yesJun 25 06:45
sebsebsebdelete dm's though?  no I don't think soJun 25 06:45
oiaohmReally think about it the work to nuke X11 started whenJun 25 06:45
GoForbes28sebsebseb: Twitter doesn't have that feature either?Jun 25 06:45
oiaohmFirst attempt was directfbJun 25 06:46
sebsebsebGoForbes28: nope don't think so, and Twitter sucks, main streame junk siteJun 25 06:46
GoForbes28thanksJun 25 06:46
sebsebsebGoForbes28: I am a proud member of http://identi.ca/group/twitterfree well I got made a bit of an exception really,  I do have a twitter account, but only sent four tweets and really for myself,  so that well I had sent tweets before, and I don't use it properly, so yeahJun 25 06:47
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sebsebsebGoForbes28: apparnatly can delete a name on Twitter and then others can't just register it as wellJun 25 06:47
GoForbes28oiaohm: Actually, there was Y-Window System before that :P Jun 25 06:47
sebsebsebGoForbes28: and unforuntatly someone else has this name on Twitter, another reason I don't want to use itJun 25 06:47
GoForbes28sebsebseb: joinedJun 25 06:48
sebsebsebGoForbes28: plus the negativeness towards Identica from quite a few of the main Mageia people it seems, because they prefer Twitter or only really use Twitter depedning on who they are.Jun 25 06:48
sebsebsebGoForbes28: if you have a Twitter account, your not meant to be in that groupJun 25 06:48
GoForbes28never have, never willJun 25 06:48
sebsebsebGoForbes28: ok cool, that's the group to be in for you then yeah :)Jun 25 06:48
GoForbes28heck, I was even hestitant to get a identi accountJun 25 06:48
sebsebsebso was IJun 25 06:49
sebsebseb,but uhmmJun 25 06:49
oiaohmGoForbes28: You have you time lines out.Jun 25 06:49
oiaohmGoForbes28: directfb first appeared in 1996-7   Y-Windows first appeared 2003Jun 25 06:49
sebsebsebGoForbes28: sometimes Windows has advantages over LInux and Mac OS X, yes, depending on what someone wants to do, but thing is useaully that's only really, becasue of the massive market share,  and so a program or  hardware being made for Windows basicalelyJun 25 06:50
oiaohmGoForbes28: directfb appeared shortly after framebuffers were added to the Linux kernelJun 25 06:50
GoForbes28oopsJun 25 06:50
oiaohmBut video card drivers have not played nice with Linux framebuffer support all that time.Jun 25 06:51
GoForbes28oiaohm: I should know not to challenge youJun 25 06:51
oiaohmGoForbes28: I can be wrongJun 25 06:51
oiaohmGoForbes28: Just not often.Jun 25 06:51
sebsebsebGoForbes28: in a way I should have been lieing in bed sleeping already, or   going there rather rather soon now, but nah,  not untill SP3 is installed at leastJun 25 06:52
GoForbes28sebsebseb: Any "advantage" is usually superficial and outweighed by more important problems, or is because of circumstance rather than technical design.Jun 25 06:53
GoForbes28sebsebseb: Is there a facebookfree group too?Jun 25 06:53
oiaohmI wonder how Windows users would like having to wait over 10 years for proper support by video card makers of their OS.Jun 25 06:53
sebsebsebGoForbes28: well I told you why I am doing XP in a vm now,  and those reasons are rather valid to do it, plus well I don't hate WIndows anywayJun 25 06:53
oiaohmIe Supporting X11 is not supporting proper graphics on LinuxJun 25 06:53
sebsebsebGoForbes28: there's GOogle freeJun 25 06:54
sebsebsebhttp://identi.ca/group/googlefreeJun 25 06:54
GoForbes28oiaohm: "I wonder how Windows users would like having to wait over 10 years for proper support by video card makers of their OS."Jun 25 06:54
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GoForbes28oiaohm: better call the wambulanceJun 25 06:54
sebsebsebfacebook free hmm maybe  http://identi.ca/group/facebookfreeJun 25 06:54
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GoForbes28sebsebseb: can't say I'm googlefreeJun 25 06:54
sebsebsebGoForbes28: well I am not  I use Gmail, and the search every now and again for exampleJun 25 06:55
GoForbes28I am using gmail for non-essential stuffJun 25 06:55
oiaohmI am not google free either.Jun 25 06:55
sebsebsebGoForbes28: anyway my older brother uses Twitter here and there, and well he was on it earlier, and I saw, and uh it made me think againJun 25 06:55
sebsebsebpeople like thatJun 25 06:55
sebsebsebthe main streameJun 25 06:55
sebsebsebdo we really want them on sites such as Identica?  Uh I think not.Jun 25 06:55
oiaohmIts really hard to to use a server on line provided by someone.Jun 25 06:55
sebsebseblet them have their Twitter junkJun 25 06:55
oiaohmBut at least google has quite reasonable privacy policiesJun 25 06:56
GoForbes28or facebook junkJun 25 06:56
oiaohmYou cannot say that about nickbookJun 25 06:56
sebsebsebGoForbes28: and it's great, that have a site that is like Twitter, but mainly used by Linux users :),  so we can talk about Linux and so on, you know :DJun 25 06:56
GoForbes28yeahJun 25 06:57
GoForbes28where all the cool activists go!Jun 25 06:57
GoForbes28well I gtg for tonightJun 25 06:57
GoForbes28see all laterJun 25 06:57
sebsebsebGoForbes28: a site to chat to our own kindJun 25 06:57
sebsebsebGoForbes28: instead of the main streame on Twitter :DJun 25 06:57
GoForbes28lolJun 25 06:57
GoForbes28good nightJun 25 06:57
sebsebsebGoForbes28: ok nightJun 25 06:57
sebsebsebmorning here though nowJun 25 06:57
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oiaohmsebsebseb:  think about this.  facebook has collected photos from stacks of different poeple.Jun 25 06:58
oiaohmThey have added face  detection software.Jun 25 06:58
oiaohmNow I am CIA looking for someone.Jun 25 06:58
sebsebsebyep Facebook can be used by the police and potential employeers and all that, to find out more about peopleJun 25 06:59
sebsebsebindeedJun 25 06:59
oiaohmLets presume its not the CIAJun 25 06:59
oiaohmLets presume by some bad luck you crossed a path of a criminal.Jun 25 06:59
sebsebseband it can be used by criminals to find out more about people as wellJun 25 06:59
oiaohmFacebook can also be used to hunt you down.Jun 25 06:59
sebsebsebyep indeedJun 25 06:59
sebsebsebespesially when it seems that most users are using their real  names on it, so yep the sur name and all thatJun 25 07:00
oiaohmIf you read facebook rules you are not allowed to use an alias.Jun 25 07:00
sebsebseband if it's not a common sur name, well that can be worth protecting a lot online, but most  Intenret users woudn't think  like thisJun 25 07:01
oiaohmGoogle if you want to use an alias go right aheadJun 25 07:01
oiaohmThey don't give a stuff about those things.Jun 25 07:01
sebsebseboiaohm: ok, but that Facebook alternative site disapora or whatever it was called, can use  some made up name there :DJun 25 07:01
oiaohmYep exactlyJun 25 07:01
sebsebseboiaohm: my brother uses his real name on Twitter even, I think that's stupidJun 25 07:02
oiaohmAlso most people are not aware that some cammara record gps location in photoJun 25 07:02
oiaohmNow that is nasty.Jun 25 07:02
sebsebsebaltough not really looked at it properly yet, to see what he has been Tweeting, but I think it's mainly with people that he knew in person, but still,  no need to use the sur name there reallyJun 25 07:02
oiaohmto be correct is gps and time.Jun 25 07:02
oiaohmSo if you find a person in a photo like thatJun 25 07:02
oiaohmYou know exactly where they were.Jun 25 07:03
sebsebseboiaohm: when it comes to Facebook and Twitter,  most useres don't think about privacy and security, they will just go and use those sites, if their friends and such areJun 25 07:03
sebsebsebbasicalelyJun 25 07:03
sebsebseband yep they will give out loads of info about them selves on the site as well, without thinking about itJun 25 07:03
sebsebseband some of that info, can be used to find them, like we were sayingJun 25 07:04
oiaohmOk did those people have any education showing them how this data is used against them.Jun 25 07:04
sebsebsebwell I guess what I just said is more Facebook than Twitter really, but anwyayJun 25 07:04
oiaohmNoJun 25 07:04
sebsebsebyeah exactlyJun 25 07:04
oiaohmBasically if they did the goverment would have a harder time trapping people doing stuff wrongJun 25 07:04
sebsebseband yet the Facebook founder now  wants kids under the age of 13, to be using Facebook well no problem, according to US lawJun 25 07:05
oiaohmMS moto get they youngJun 25 07:05
sebsebsebmany under 13's are already on it, but uhmm yeah there was a good link about thatJun 25 07:05
sebsebsebwell the comments made it interestingJun 25 07:05
sebsebsebthat I got on toJun 25 07:05
sebsebseboiaohm: yep get them vender locked in when young, exactlyJun 25 07:05
sebsebsebbrain wash them at school to use the products even, if possibleJun 25 07:05
sebsebsebwell get the staff brain washed using them,  and then they will brain wash the kids to use , without provdiing a choice as wellJun 25 07:06
sebsebsebbasicalelyJun 25 07:06
sebsebseba choice of differnet software I meant aboveJun 25 07:06
sebsebsebfor a computer taskJun 25 07:06
oiaohmI get called all sorts of things because most commonly when I have a mobile phone on me its offJun 25 07:06
oiaohmI turn my mobile phone on between jobsJun 25 07:06
oiaohmAnd check my text messageJun 25 07:07
sebsebsebyeah well not having a mobile phone service is quite nice really or can be, disconnected from loads of  stuff that isn't really worth bothering with, know what I mean?Jun 25 07:07
sebsebseb,but  sure many jobs, and would need a phone now,  well sometimesJun 25 07:07
sebsebsebat leastJun 25 07:07
sebsebseboiaohm: anyway phones are very propritary very commerical reallyJun 25 07:08
oiaohmI stopped having a phone on with me in jobsJun 25 07:08
sebsebsebeven if  they run Android or something like thatJun 25 07:08
oiaohmFor the reason I was finding I was making more mistakesJun 25 07:08
oiaohmIe setting up network secruity and building secuirty you really should not goof it.Jun 25 07:08
sebsebsebnot quite following you now, what are you saying exactly?Jun 25 07:09
oiaohmIf I was working on something and someone would ring and I would answerJun 25 07:09
oiaohmI would lose my focusJun 25 07:09
oiaohmSo chance of me making a mistake on what I am doing goes up.Jun 25 07:10
oiaohmNows I don't know if this is just me.Jun 25 07:10
sebsebsebwell yeahJun 25 07:10
sebsebsebphones going offJun 25 07:10
sebsebsebdistract from the other thingJun 25 07:10
sebsebsebbasicalelyJun 25 07:10
oiaohmI really do suspect lot of errors are coming from people having mobile phone on them when they should not.Jun 25 07:10
oiaohmLittle things in secuirty are importantJun 25 07:11
oiaohmLike if you miss checking a camara alignmentJun 25 07:11
oiaohmOr closing a network portJun 25 07:11
oiaohmSomeone will find itJun 25 07:12
oiaohmIe the job is not quite brian surgery but it can be down right close.Jun 25 07:12
oiaohmWorst items I have had to set up are pulse grid wiring.Jun 25 07:13
oiaohmIe pulse in the secuirty wiring is measuing the length of the wires to inside 1 mmJun 25 07:14
sebsebseboh okJun 25 07:14
oiaohmSo that a person cannot cut into Jun 25 07:14
oiaohmor place a bipass on itJun 25 07:14
DaemonFChttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387565,00.aspJun 25 07:15
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oiaohmsebsebseb: the evil part is wires of it with muli paths.Jun 25 07:16
oiaohmsebsebseb: It measures each path.Jun 25 07:16
oiaohmThe bugger is the slighted ammout of cable streach in the wrong place and it goes off.Jun 25 07:17
oiaohmTrue bugger of stuff to fit.Jun 25 07:17
DaemonFChttp://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/52072031-68/clocks-power-grid-electric.html.cspJun 25 07:17
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oiaohmMiss a clamp at the correct spacing and it will go off.Jun 25 07:18
oiaohmDaemonFC: ???  What.Jun 25 07:19
oiaohmDaemonFC: So the usa serousally use clocks that depend on pwoer supply for freq?Jun 25 07:19
sebsebseboiaohm: Hmm WIndows quite a lot of time doing updates, how funJun 25 07:20
sebsebsebsarcasmJun 25 07:20
oiaohmDaemonFC: so bring them over here and give them only 50 hz instead of 60 and watch them driftJun 25 07:21
oiaohmsebsebseb: I do have a 2gb update I have todo to the Linux machine some time.Jun 25 07:21
DaemonFCit probably saves a few cents on each clock or somethingJun 25 07:21
DaemonFCas long as the power line frequency is always the same, no problemJun 25 07:22
sebsebseboiaohm: oh?Jun 25 07:22
oiaohmsebsebseb: All the packages I have installed that I don't use regually that are out of date.Jun 25 07:22
sebsebseboiaohm: ok yeah, sometiems we do big updates in Linux distro'sJun 25 07:22
sebsebseb,but for most of them since reposJun 25 07:23
sebsebsebit's justJun 25 07:23
sebsebsebdownload and install for us :DJun 25 07:23
oiaohmMost of the 2gb I most likely should just remove.Jun 25 07:23
sebsebsebwhere as with WIndows XP doing loads of updates, is quite the painJun 25 07:23
sebsebsebVista isn't much better for this eitherJun 25 07:24
oiaohmNote my current install is over 20gb of binaries.  sebsebsebJun 25 07:26
oiaohmSo its less than a 10 percent problem.Jun 25 07:26
sebsebseboiaohm: IN which distro?Jun 25 07:26
oiaohmDebian core with many distrobutions in openvzJun 25 07:27
sebsebsebohJun 25 07:27
oiaohmI think you call what I am running scary.Jun 25 07:28
oiaohmI am looking forward to wayland tech working.Jun 25 07:28
oiaohmHopefully after that I will be able to have proper working graphics from openvz or cgroup contained stuff.Jun 25 07:28
oiaohmThen I will never have to choose a distributions again.Jun 25 07:29
oiaohmJust choose them all.Jun 25 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] 'page(s) have become unresponsive' ? browser is! #Chrome is no difference; with each new release it becomes bloated and slower. Kill it!Jun 25 07:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jwildeboer Microsoft #Azure: Give us YOUR data for free, pay US to get YOUR data back. Vendor Lock-In complete :-) http://is.gd/kbDhIoJun 25 08:00
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schestowitz[02:18] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: So want a Chromebook maybe?Jun 25 08:02
schestowitzIt would impede productivityJun 25 08:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finally got one of my supposedly broken monitors working again, so I'm now stuck with a spare brand new one. >|Jun 25 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Next PC will have 2 GPUs, for triplehead, I guess. But how hard is that to set up in today's distros Anyone knows?Jun 25 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk It's all in the headJun 25 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @clacke Indeed. What shocks me is how this propaganda line came out all at once, even from Microsoft firing line like Ed Bott.Jun 25 08:09
Diablo-D3schestowitz: uhJun 25 08:09
Diablo-D3why do you need 2 gpus?Jun 25 08:09
Diablo-D3you can put 6 monitors on a single card nowadaysJun 25 08:10
schestowitzHow?Jun 25 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] He said WHA?! [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/Zkz4O.jpgJun 25 08:12
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schestowitzSpecial cards?Jun 25 08:12
oiaohmschestowitz: AMD cards support it.Jun 25 08:12
schestowitzMost come with two outputs or one that splits off into twoJun 25 08:12
schestowitzoiaohm: what cards?Jun 25 08:12
schestowitzSurely not any, and what about the GUIs for setting that up? Need I do xinerama by hand again?Jun 25 08:13
oiaohmhttp://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-5000/hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition/Pages/overview.aspxJun 25 08:13
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schestowitzoiaohm: interestingJun 25 08:14
schestowitzIs this easy to set up in Linux?Jun 25 08:14
oiaohmschestowitz: If you install the closed source drivers simple.  schestowitzJun 25 08:14
schestowitzand can it do hybrid dvi and and vga?Jun 25 08:15
schestowitzAlthough I can do all VGAJun 25 08:15
oiaohmInterface modules.Jun 25 08:15
oiaohmSo yep.Jun 25 08:15
schestowitzoiaohm: but catalyst GUI hasn't goit it, IIRCJun 25 08:15
oiaohmhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQ0OA  << What do you mean.Jun 25 08:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] AMD Catalyst 10.7 For Linux Has Eyefinity Support .::. Size~: 20.26 KBJun 25 08:16
oiaohmIts had it since the middle of last year schestowitzJun 25 08:16
oiaohmOf course it only shows up when you have a supporting card with supporting tech connected.Jun 25 08:16
schestowitzsupported tech?Jun 25 08:18
schestowitzI need a new GPU anywayJun 25 08:19
schestowitzCause current one had apparent IC faulltJun 25 08:19
schestowitzOne output doesn't sent out red bandJun 25 08:19
schestowitz*sendJun 25 08:19
schestowitz"The Catalyst 10.7 also carries "production support" for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (even though going back to Catalyst 10.4 has worked with the Lucid Lynx release) and "early look support" for openSUSE 11.3. There are also a handful of resolved issues with the Catalyst 10.7 Linux driver, which are listed below. "Jun 25 08:21
schestowitzIntrerestingJun 25 08:21
schestowitzTo be honest, I never swapped GPUJun 25 08:21
schestowitzBut it should be as simple and sliding it into the mono perpendicularly, right?Jun 25 08:22
schestowitz*moboJun 25 08:22
schestowitzAnd the OS should pick that up fine...?Jun 25 08:22
schestowitzWithout additional setup of any sort that is?Jun 25 08:22
oiaohmhttp://support.amd.com/us/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity-dongles.aspx  and   http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-eyefinity-technology/how-to/Pages/set-up.aspxJun 25 08:22
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oiaohmschestowitz: first timer swaping GPU watch out for port clip.Jun 25 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #WebGL has a long way to go...Jun 25 08:24
oiaohmschestowitz: Taking the screw out everyone does but there can be a clip holding the other end of card in.Jun 25 08:24
schestowitzWhat is it's not among the "Validated Dongles"?Jun 25 08:26
schestowitzoiaohm: the metal one -- right?Jun 25 08:26
schestowitzI did swap some cards before, but no graphics cardsJun 25 08:26
schestowitzSo if it's no diffferent, maybe I can buy it at a local shop and hope not to dry the motherboardJun 25 08:27
schestowitzhttp://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productnotfound.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A4568791&dgc=SS&cid=39715&lid=1003774Jun 25 08:28
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schestowitzhttp://www.compuplus.com/Sapphire-Radeon-HD-5870-1-1146708.html?refer=epinions&utm_source=shopping&utm_medium=cse&utm_campaign=SAPPHIRE+%3E+NoneJun 25 08:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Computer Parts, GPS Navigation, and Digital Cameras @ Comp-U-Plus; 1.800.287.2323 .::. Size~: 164.34 KBJun 25 08:32
schestowitzI, can't see,to find it here, all 404sJun 25 08:32
DaemonFCschestowitz, my mom is madJun 25 08:32
DaemonFCI replaced the ringtone on her phone with Superstition Jun 25 08:32
DaemonFC:)Jun 25 08:32
schestowitzoiaohm: it;s a two-output one, no? http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/graphics-cards/ati-radeon-hd-5870-636530/review?artc_pg=2Jun 25 08:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ATI Radeon HD 5870 review from TechRadar UK's expert reviews of Graphics cards .::. Size~: 75.96 KBJun 25 08:34
schestowitzI can't seem to find them for sale in the UKJun 25 08:34
schestowitzDaemonFC: is that before ot after you used her washign machineJun 25 08:35
schestowitzBTWJun 25 08:35
DaemonFCafterJun 25 08:35
schestowitzComplain about the laundromatJun 25 08:35
schestowitzThey can profiteer at $100 a DAY!Jun 25 08:35
schestowitzFrom a pair of washer/dryerJun 25 08:35
schestowitz$3000 a month!!Jun 25 08:35
schestowitzFor just some water and electricityJun 25 08:35
DaemonFCyeah, you go there and you end up using your shoulder as a battering ram to pack the machine so you don't have to do another loadJun 25 08:35
DaemonFCthen nothing gets clean :PJun 25 08:35
schestowitz$40000 a year!Jun 25 08:35
schestowitzFor two machinesJun 25 08:36
schestowitzThat cost less than $1000Jun 25 08:36
schestowitzOver 10 years.. $400,000Jun 25 08:36
schestowitzAnice houseJun 25 08:36
schestowitzFrom two machinesJun 25 08:36
schestowitzGood investmentJun 25 08:36
schestowitzIf you're in the UK, you can use mine...Jun 25 08:37
schestowitzAnd the machines here, BTW (the public one, not my own) don't charge more than 1 pound for dryingJun 25 08:37
DaemonFCschestowitz, Whats worse is that there's only two laundromats in townJun 25 08:37
DaemonFCand the machines are always breaking downJun 25 08:37
schestowitzWhich is probably sensible given the cost of electricity and repairJun 25 08:37
DaemonFCor the coin changer won't workJun 25 08:38
schestowitzthe washing machines are onlu slightly more and don't include detergentJun 25 08:38
oiaohmschestowitz: Its the display port on them.  Scary enough each one can take 3 screens simply.Jun 25 08:38
DaemonFCschestowitz, one time I stuck in a $5 and it gave me $20 worth of quartersJun 25 08:38
DaemonFCI didn't say anythingJun 25 08:38
schestowitzBack in the days when I used them..Jun 25 08:38
DaemonFCthat place is a ripoff, serves them rightJun 25 08:38
schestowitz(laundromats)Jun 25 08:38
schestowitzI'd use 6 at onceJun 25 08:38
schestowitzOr at least 4Jun 25 08:38
schestowitzSo I could parallelise the processJun 25 08:39
schestowitzNow I have to do them one by one, and I have no drierJun 25 08:39
schestowitzOne wash cycle at a timeJun 25 08:39
oiaohmschestowitz: ie the dongles are so you can use the display port for it.Jun 25 08:39
schestowitzBut without a dryer you can't quite do 5-6 loadsJun 25 08:39
DaemonFCschestowitz, speaking of washing machines, they make some small ones now that plug into your kitchen sinkJun 25 08:39
DaemonFCI installed one of those for a customer when I worked at Rent A CenterJun 25 08:40
DaemonFCfunny thing happenedJun 25 08:40
DaemonFCshe already had asked her landlord if she could put one in and he said no, but I don't care because it's not my problemJun 25 08:40
schestowitzoiaohm: they don't provide the dingles?Jun 25 08:40
DaemonFCso I go in there and hook it upJun 25 08:40
schestowitzI remember in my old ATI they would have one output that then splits into twoJun 25 08:40
schestowitzBut it was included in the boxJun 25 08:40
DaemonFCguy downstairs had a bed and bedroom set he made one payment on and didn't give backJun 25 08:41
schestowitzANd this one I still can't find in shop, I want to see if it'\s worth the priceJun 25 08:41
DaemonFCand we were three months into working his file, we were about to send the police out thereJun 25 08:41
schestowitzIf going up to 4 screens would cost an additional 400 quid (about 600 dollars), I'd stay with dualJun 25 08:41
oiaohmschestowitz: not for converting display port to useful.Jun 25 08:41
DaemonFCthis lady goes to do a load of laundry upstairs and the machine drains into her kitchen sink drain Jun 25 08:41
schestowitzThe more you add, the less the productivity gain from eachJun 25 08:41
DaemonFCand the pressure caused the pipe to burstJun 25 08:42
oiaohmschestowitz: yes at times 2 cards works out cheaper.Jun 25 08:42
DaemonFCand all the water landed on this guy's bed set that he had essentially stolenJun 25 08:42
schestowitzoiaohm: this one is for gamersJun 25 08:42
oiaohmschestowitz: but when you need past 4Jun 25 08:42
DaemonFCnext thing I knew I had him on the phone wanting me to come replace the merchandise he wasn't paying onJun 25 08:42
schestowitzPolygon mayhem Jun 25 08:42
oiaohmschestowitz: You are kinda stuck.Jun 25 08:42
schestowitzI don't need such wafersJun 25 08:42
schestowitzAnd electricity/heat sourceJun 25 08:42
oiaohmIe 2 cards get you to 4 normally.Jun 25 08:43
schestowitzyes, can I combine with the existing oneJun 25 08:43
oiaohmBut using infinty it gets you to a max of 12Jun 25 08:43
schestowitzAs in, can I add another GPU and use one for just a single monitor?Jun 25 08:43
DaemonFCI noticed there's more bug reports on those cards than on the mid-range and lower end onesJun 25 08:43
oiaohmIe dongles expand limit.Jun 25 08:43
DaemonFCas far as the free radeon driver stack goesJun 25 08:43
schestowitzWould it need to be of the same brand too?Jun 25 08:43
schestowitzIIRC, in Vista it did need to be of the same brand for consistencyJun 25 08:43
DaemonFConly FGLRX really seems to work "reliably" on them, and by reliably I mean if you don't consider the problems FGLRX causesJun 25 08:43
oiaohmschestowitz: really for them to work well you need two cards the same.Jun 25 08:44
schestowitzI hgad a collague who used two cards in 2004 (under Linux) to drive 3 displaysJun 25 08:44
oiaohmThat is the problemJun 25 08:44
schestowitzoiaohm: I can probably buy another nvidia 8400Jun 25 08:44
oiaohmDongles can work out simpler.Jun 25 08:44
schestowitzor 87000Jun 25 08:44
schestowitzBut setup would be complicated unless the GUI supports itJun 25 08:44
schestowitzAnd if I buy over the Internet, consulting/returning would be hardJun 25 08:45
DaemonFCschestowitz, You should go to best buy, I'm sure they have a deal for you (by deal I mean, laughing as you walk out the door with a low end card from last year after paying twice what it's worthJun 25 08:46
schestowitzLOL http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=504987Jun 25 08:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ATI Radeon HD5870 1Gb - Misco.co.uk .::. Size~: 122.59 KBJun 25 08:46
schestowitzALmost 500 quidJun 25 08:46
schestowitzHeck, I could get a whole new PC for half this priceJun 25 08:46
schestowitzIt makes no senseJun 25 08:47
schestowitzIS this the right card? It says Apple.Jun 25 08:48
schestowitzBut the hardware must be the sameJun 25 08:48
schestowitzMaybe it's this one? http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=508489&CatId=2697Jun 25 08:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: XFX Radeon HD5870 1GB PCI-Express Graphics Card - Misco.co.uk .::. Size~: 122.75 KBJun 25 08:48
DaemonFCyou're being gougedJun 25 08:48
schestowitz"ATI Eyefinity technology with support for up to three displays (1,3) "Jun 25 08:49
DaemonFCeither your taxes are way high or that site is too expensiveJun 25 08:50
schestowitzNot even  or 6Jun 25 08:50
schestowitzVAT is now 20% hereJun 25 08:50
schestowitzit got raised last year or soJun 25 08:50
DaemonFCRadeonHD 6970 with 2 GB GDDR5 is $334 right nowJun 25 08:50
DaemonFCon NeweggJun 25 08:50
DaemonFCoh, no tax eitherJun 25 08:51
DaemonFCbecause they are in California and I am notJun 25 08:51
DaemonFChoorayJun 25 08:51
schestowitzMaybe I'll pop into Microdirect and see if they have a better offer that includes installationJun 25 08:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: does it do multi-head in Linux for >=3 screensJun 25 08:52
DaemonFChttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161356Jun 25 08:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Newegg.com - HIS H697F2G2M Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity .::. Size~: 178.99 KBJun 25 08:53
schestowitzhttp://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/44447/Sapphire-Radeon-HD-5870-1GB-Vapor-X-OC-PCI-E-2-0Jun 25 08:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB Vapor-X OC PCI-E 2.0 GDDR5 2x DVI-I DP HDMI 5GHz GPU 870MHz Retail- microdirect.co.uk .::. Size~: 36.97 KBJun 25 08:53
schestowitz"Help increase productivity by maximizing your visual workspace so you can see more Windows simultaneously"Jun 25 08:53
schestowitzUppsercase "Windows"?Jun 25 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan SDK – UX Simulator (Scratchbox) http://mge.bz/cN #Developer #MeeGo #Nokia #N9 #N950Jun 25 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Nokia Talking about Hack-friendly Developer mode on N9 http://mge.bz/cO #Nokia #N9 #Developer #Hack #LinkuxJun 25 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Nokia Blogbite: let’s talk Nokia N9 (Sssshhhhh only positives) http://mge.bz/cQ #Nokia #N9 #PodCastJun 25 08:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan SDK - UX Simulator (Scratchbox) .::. Size~: 50.26 KBJun 25 08:54
DaemonFC1 HDMI, 2 DP, 2 DVIJun 25 08:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia Talking about Hack-friendly Developer mode on N9 .::. Size~: 53.57 KBJun 25 08:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia Blogbite: let’s talk Nokia N9 (Sssshhhhh only positives) .::. Size~: 49.89 KBJun 25 08:54
schestowitzI also want to test it at the shopJun 25 08:55
schestowitzto  ensure it works with all displaysJun 25 08:55
DaemonFCschestowitz, It's basically impossible to buy anything in the US without a Windows 7 advertisement Jun 25 08:55
schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, same hereJun 25 08:55
schestowitzIt's paid forJun 25 08:55
schestowitzIt gives the illusion that it's made only for one OSJun 25 08:56
schestowitzAnd scares away people from LinuxJun 25 08:56
schestowitzI'll go to Micro Direct soon...Jun 25 08:56
DaemonFCschestowitz, At one time Logitech was advertising Linux support on their hardware and Microsoft made them take it offJun 25 08:57
DaemonFCthen there's this huge Vista logo on there all of a suddenJun 25 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[danebod/@danebod] #Care2 Save the #Kimberley and #HumpbackWhales #Australia http://bit.ly/jqMZZr !Fracking planned !nature !green !umweltJun 25 08:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Please Save The Kimberley and Humpback Whales - The Petition Site .::. Size~: 71.07 KBJun 25 08:57
DaemonFCschestowitz, Nearly all of those "certified for Windows" devices work fine in Linux using the drivers that are a part of the Linux kernelJun 25 08:58
DaemonFCincluding more and more often, the GPUJun 25 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] Ouch ! RT @JayMontano: Nokia N9 prices 660/749 USD for 16/64GB http://bit.ly/kFSVw1Jun 25 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @JayMontano: Openness of the Nokia N9? Rooting? Just activate in settings... http://bit.ly/mr81fEJun 25 08:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia N9 prices 660/749 USD for 16/64GB  : My Nokia Blog .::. Size~: 87.5 KBJun 25 08:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Openness of the Nokia N9? Rooting? Just activate in settings…  : My Nokia Blog .::. Size~: 77.63 KBJun 25 08:59
DaemonFCThe GPU is the most complicated thing in a modern PC, it's like a computer that you plug into your computer, and it has things like programmable shader units that just didn't used to exist at allJun 25 08:59
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schestowitzI'll go there MondayJun 25 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @JayMontano: Video: Nokia N9 hands on for the weekend - compilation number 4 :D http://bit.ly/jdA9RLJun 25 09:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Video: Nokia N9 hands on for the weekend – compilation number 4 :D  : My Nokia Blog .::. Size~: 74.17 KBJun 25 09:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: yes, more transistors tooJun 25 09:00
schestowitzI'll need to check if they can test it with me at the shop... http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/44447/Sapphire-Radeon-HD-5870-1GB-Vapor-X-OC-PCI-E-2-0Jun 25 09:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB Vapor-X OC PCI-E 2.0 GDDR5 2x DVI-I DP HDMI 5GHz GPU 870MHz Retail- microdirect.co.uk .::. Size~: 36.97 KBJun 25 09:01
schestowitzDon't want to go back home only to find out I can't plug everything right..Jun 25 09:01
schestowitzIn any case, I can use this GPU also in my next PCJun 25 09:01
DaemonFCschestowitz, PCI-E 2.x x16 is pretty universal on any recent motherboardJun 25 09:03
DaemonFC:)Jun 25 09:03
DaemonFCyou hardly see any without itJun 25 09:04
DaemonFCor with AGPJun 25 09:04
DaemonFC(In fact, I think AGP is gone)Jun 25 09:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Walk along the railway tracks for the last time tomorrow June 16 - http://ur1.ca/4j3r9Jun 25 09:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Green Corridor walk along Upper Bukit Timah Road [26 Jun] | The Green Corridor | Singapore . Show Your Support . Spread the Message . Share Your Stories .::. Size~: 50.06 KBJun 25 09:07
DaemonFCschestowitz, I have a 5670 with 1 GB GDDR5Jun 25 09:11
DaemonFCit works well in Linux, with the free driver stack evenJun 25 09:11
DaemonFCof course you can squeeze more out of it with a tweak here and thereJun 25 09:12
DaemonFCbut it's functional right awayJun 25 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] walk along the railway tracks for the last time tomorrow, Sunday June 26 - http://ur1.ca/4j3r9Jun 25 09:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Green Corridor walk along Upper Bukit Timah Road [26 Jun] | The Green Corridor | Singapore . Show Your Support . Spread the Message . Share Your Stories .::. Size~: 50.03 KBJun 25 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @greve: yes, sad...Jun 25 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "You're literally watching grass grow in a computer game..." #YogscastJun 25 09:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: does catalyst really have a module for >2 screens?Jun 25 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Roundup: Birth Defects Caused By World's Top-Selling Weedkiller, Scientists Say - http://huff.to/mzafph long, troubling piece #monsantoJun 25 09:27
schestowitzoiaohm suggests that it doesJun 25 09:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Roundup: Birth Defects Caused By World's Top-Selling Weedkiller, Scientists Say .::. Size~: 362.13 KBJun 25 09:27
DaemonFCschestowitz, yes, it doesJun 25 09:27
DaemonFCbut you can use multiple screens with the free driver stack tooJun 25 09:27
DaemonFCin fact, it's probably better that you do if you canJun 25 09:28
DaemonFC:)Jun 25 09:28
DaemonFCdepending on distribution and Catalyst version and all other sorts of variables, I sometimes get oddities using Catalyst for thatJun 25 09:29
DaemonFCI've seen one display freeze an image and hole it until I rebootedJun 25 09:29
DaemonFCI've had cases where sometimes I'd boot up and it wasn't initializing one of them at allJun 25 09:29
DaemonFCthe free driver literally never does that (to me)Jun 25 09:29
DaemonFC*holdJun 25 09:30
schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTU5NgJun 25 09:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Tuxera Claims NTFS Is The Fastest File-System For Linux .::. Size~: 20.47 KBJun 25 09:30
schestowitzMicrosoft partners..Jun 25 09:30
schestowitzDaemonFC: I see..Jun 25 09:31
schestowitzWell, I don't need fast renderingJun 25 09:31
schestowitzJust many outputsJun 25 09:31
schestowitzSo free driver might be OKJun 25 09:31
DaemonFCschestowitz, the free driver is actually faster for 2d, XRender, and OpenGL compositeJun 25 09:32
DaemonFCyou won't like it if you play a lot of demanding games Jun 25 09:32
DaemonFCit's getting a lot faster than it used to be in 3d gamingJun 25 09:33
schestowitzniceJun 25 09:33
schestowitzBut..Jun 25 09:33
DaemonFCI'd say it has tripled in speed there since late last yearJun 25 09:33
schestowitzI need to see if the shop can do the fitting and testing with meJun 25 09:33
schestowitzMicro Direct is more like an over-the-counter shopJun 25 09:33
DaemonFCschestowitz, surely you could just RMA it if it is a dud or won't workJun 25 09:34
DaemonFCit's an extra trip to the post office at worstJun 25 09:34
schestowitzYeah, I guess....Jun 25 09:35
schestowitzHmm... maybe I'll check at Curry's todayJun 25 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VirtualBSD review - Sneak a peak at #FreeBSD http://ur1.ca/4j3zw "It is an excellent technology demonstrator." #bsd #unixJun 25 09:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VirtualBSD review - Sneak a peak at FreeBSD .::. Size~: 14.1 KBJun 25 09:35
schestowitzI'm gonna go to the city to meet a friend for breakfast anywayJun 25 09:36
schestowitzI could pop into the shop to see..Jun 25 09:36
DaemonFCschestowitz, the last RadeonHD 5670 card I had (same chipset, different manufacturer) failed on me after working for 3 daysJun 25 09:36
schestowitzI'm thinking quad-headJun 25 09:36
oiaohmschestowitz: the Tuxera statement is trueJun 25 09:36
schestowitzI already have 3.... the biggest is 24 inches.. and the Dell does 1600x2500(ish pixelsJun 25 09:36
schestowitzoiaohm: how so?Jun 25 09:36
DaemonFCand I had it out with Newegg who tried charging me a restocking fee and return shipping on an open box item (their policy says they cover for both in that case)Jun 25 09:36
oiaohmschestowitz: Problem is the reason its true is that NTFS under Linux is not processing permissions.Jun 25 09:36
schestowitzLOLJun 25 09:37
schestowitzoiaohm:  wouldn't that make it a security hazard?Jun 25 09:37
DaemonFCschestowitz, That's the last time I bought an open box item unless it was just insanely cheapJun 25 09:38
DaemonFCthey get stuff back, don't even check it, and send it back out to a new buyerJun 25 09:38
oiaohmschestowitz: If you used it as your default install filesystem yes.Jun 25 09:38
DaemonFClike, I got a CPU there for $20 and decided it was worth the riskJun 25 09:38
DaemonFCand that works fineJun 25 09:39
DaemonFCit's a crapshootJun 25 09:39
oiaohmschestowitz: Of course now that Tuxera has done this question is how long before some of the embed filesystems speed up.Jun 25 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mageia GNU/Linux a Darling to KDE4 Users http://ur1.ca/4j41g (Mageia 1- First Impressions, possibly the best KDE 4.6.x distribution to date)Jun 25 09:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mageia 1 - First Impressions, possibly the best KDE 4.6.x distribution to date .::. Size~: 71.18 KBJun 25 09:40
oiaohmschestowitz: the art when someone is saying something is faster is making sure you compare to something equal.  ie NTFS without permissions should not be benched against ext with permissions.Jun 25 09:41
schestowitzThanksJun 25 09:42
schestowitzI will rebut that statement laterJun 25 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Musix: A GNU/Linux for Sound Pros Examined http://ur1.ca/4j420 #MusixJun 25 09:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Musix in the air - Linux notes from DarkDuck .::. Size~: 95.17 KBJun 25 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Quake Turns 15, Frag On! http://ostatic.com/blog/quake-turns-15-frag-on "Somehow many years ago I had gotten hold of a Linux version..."Jun 25 09:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quake Turns 15, Frag On! .::. Size~: 36.2 KBJun 25 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: #Porteus 1.0 http://ur1.ca/4j458 "Porteus 1.0 came out yesterday, so I decided to review it." #gnu #linuxJun 25 09:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Review: Porteus 1.0 .::. Size~: 95.53 KBJun 25 09:54
DaemonFCschestowitz, Is there a PLF-type repository for Mageia yet?Jun 25 09:55
DaemonFCor do they include the free software that violates US patents?Jun 25 09:55
DaemonFC(that I install anyway and the people who own the patents can just kiss my ass because I already buy a license to use most of that every time I buy anything anyway, bastards)Jun 25 09:55
DaemonFC:)Jun 25 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Xubuntu 11.04 Review http://ur1.ca/4j462 valuable for those, who like @openbytes , wish to dodge #unity and #GNOME3Jun 25 09:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Xubuntu 11.04 Review | Linux Library .::. Size~: 54.41 KBJun 25 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Foundation Remarks on #GNU #Linux Dominance in Supercomputing http://ur1.ca/4j471 #hpcJun 25 09:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Supercomputing Freakonomics - Finding Meaning Beyond the Headlines : Jim Zemlin .::. Size~: 23.84 KBJun 25 09:59
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez4gPTOxLCcJun 25 10:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - ‪Command & Conquer OST, T01: Act on Instinct‬‏ .::. Size~: 91.22 KBJun 25 10:02
DaemonFC:)Jun 25 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another death metaphor from @sjvn in #zdnet http://ur1.ca/4j47t "BURN, BABY, BURN!!!"Jun 25 10:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why the Linux netbook crashed and burned | ZDNet .::. Size~: 138.08 KBJun 25 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looking forward to triangular run at bt batok at 530pm. On on.Jun 25 10:04
DaemonFCI always played through both the campaigns on those games, but I always played the Soviets or NOD firstJun 25 10:05
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HheSOqMqYRU&feature=relatedJun 25 10:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube         - ‪C&C Tiberian dawn music (No mercy CD-mix)‬‏ .::. Size~: 110.9 KBJun 25 10:06
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gde33In australia you can now pay to unpublish peoples website? O_OJun 25 10:10
gde33http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/06/23/0239244/Australias-2-Largest-ISPs-Start-Censorsing-the-Web?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdotatom+%28Slashdot%28Atom%29%29Jun 25 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Australia's 2 Largest ISP's Start Censorsing the Web - Slashdot .::. Size~: 136.65 KBJun 25 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Queries as Mwau’s car sprayed with bullets.!Kenyan legislator on Obama's drug king pin list was not in vehicle at the time http://b1t.it/odfJun 25 10:10
gde33lolJun 25 10:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Police are also questioning how the driver escaped without injuries given the trajectory of the shots. http://b1t.it/odfJun 25 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "There was also evidence that some of the shots were fired from inside the car, according to police." http://b1t.it/odfJun 25 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "..it was strange that the 2 were seated in the front seat&none of them was hit by a bullet in the 10.15pm incident" http://b1t.it/odfJun 25 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] “It defies all the laws we know about fired ammunition,” Kenyan Police Boss Iteere http://b1t.it/odfJun 25 10:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Other than the obvious,that Mr. Mwau staged it,might just be some higher-ups are jittery bout what he might tell when the US comes callingJun 25 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] happiness is drunk dialing a friend and playing the !lo theme on whatever instrument is close at handJun 25 10:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to see the main rehearsals for #Taming. !BUSCJun 25 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @cosmicemma: @corenominal at least I have balls!Jun 25 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @mkaigwa: RT @majiwater @wmutunga has the fastest growing .ke #Twitter account with 1640+ followers in a couple of hrs >> Huh? :-)Jun 25 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] "This type of calibre is mostly used in Ceska pistols ..." > http://b1t.it/odf . Wait! 9mm mostly used in Ceska? rarely in Glocks? Barretas?Jun 25 10:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @magicbus: uTorrent 3.0 arrives with streaming and Web UI http://ping.fm/MZM9u --- how many years after #Transmission did? !FLOSS rules!Jun 25 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Locked Up Technology Is Broken Technology http://is.gd/5gg18yJun 25 11:02
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DaemonFCI've been reading about rivers that caught fire from being so badly pollutedJun 25 11:05
DaemonFCpeople criticize the EPA but at least that hasn't happened in a whileJun 25 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD @bigbrovar: RT @Jargon: "Half Of World’s Refugees Are Running From U.S. Wars http://ur1.ca/4j1fd #smh #fauxbama "Jun 25 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Mageia 1 - First Impressions, possibly the best KDE 4.6.x distribution to date http://is.gd/maYSFk - I'd disagree but im no fan of KDEJun 25 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ♺ @bigbrovar: RT @jargon Half Of World’s Refugees Are Running From U.S. Wars ur1.ca/4j1fd #smh #fauxbamaJun 25 11:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] awkward... just tried the demo site for #Unhosted in #WebOS 3.0 early access SDK and it seems to not load the login page?!?Jun 25 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mexican Senate: “Do Not Sign #ACTA” - http://bit.ly/mIUELc "tool for rich North to keep poor countries poor using information restriction"Jun 25 11:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Miguel De Icaza Announces New Company http://is.gd/kUZYV5 --- Miguel De Who???? - Nope, never heard of him ;)Jun 25 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ♺ @glynmoody: Mexican Senate: “Do Not Sign #ACTA” - http://bit.ly/mIUELcJun 25 11:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FAQ: What You Need To Know About Monday's Mobile #Patent Auction - http://bit.ly/mzTXp1 good summary of important eventJun 25 11:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Pirate Party of New Zealand Points the Finger at Microsoft for Pro-Software Patents Lobbying http://is.gd/mQ0zuCJun 25 11:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Listening to (and rembering) http://is.gd/LP1Hhh - I am an anti-christ & anarchist.....Jun 25 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WikiLove: An experiment in #appreciation - http://bit.ly/kpyMQ1 interest: wonder whether it will work #wikipedia #kudosJun 25 11:20
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DaemonFChttp://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hln4-hwmc_03_T8Hn80WN8vDC9fg?docId=e9d8dfed9dc5409084a0fe2ba877339cJun 25 11:22
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DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/article/20110625/LOCAL/106250326/Federal-judge-rules-against-parts-state-s-new-anti-abortion-law?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CIndyStar.comJun 25 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hackers leak former British PM Tony Blair data - http://cnet.co/iDjFRY poor poodle...Jun 25 11:27
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DaemonFCA defeat for right wingers in the Indiana Legislature and our governorJun 25 11:27
DaemonFCniceJun 25 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Skype mess: How far will this go? - http://bit.ly/irJe6b this will be fun when it gets to #microsoft....Jun 25 11:29
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DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/article/20110625/LOCAL/106250328/Indiana-s-new-immigration-law-seriously-flawed-judge-says?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CIndyStar.comJun 25 11:30
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DaemonFCand anotherJun 25 11:30
MinceRgeekingsJun 25 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !BUSC Main rehearsal for #Taming about to start.Jun 25 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @tante Der @fasel is so oldschool, der ließt seine gesamte Timeline.Jun 25 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @glynmoody #Skype mess: How far will this go? - http://bit.ly/irJe6b this will be fun when it gets to #microsoft....Jun 25 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @glynmoody Hackers leak former British PM Tony Blair data - http://cnet.co/iDjFRY poor poodle...Jun 25 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @glynmoody WikiLove: An experiment in #appreciation - http://bit.ly/kpyMQ1 interest: wonder whether it will work #wikipedia #kudosJun 25 11:32
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DaemonFCMinceR, our legislature has gone to the far right, it was about even but there's so much anti-Obama sentiment right now that he's killing all the downstream members of his partyJun 25 11:32
DaemonFCso I have a hunch that there will be a stream of unconstitutional an embarrassing laws passed in Indiana and these few are just the start Jun 25 11:33
*DaemonFC head desksJun 25 11:33
DaemonFCit's a good thing there are apparently some federal judges around who will strike these as they are passedJun 25 11:34
DaemonFCthese things are passed because there's popular paranoia behind them, then they get challenged and they clog up the federal district courts with nonsense and the state attorneys are obligated to fight for these laws at the public expenseJun 25 11:35
DaemonFCso in the end nothing productive happens, lots of money and time are wastedJun 25 11:35
DaemonFCand the politicians get more votes and funding for having tried to do the wrong thingsJun 25 11:36
DaemonFCMinceR, Given a choice between doing what is wise and making a good sound bite, most politicians seem to do the latterJun 25 11:37
DaemonFCI think this is a universal ruleJun 25 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Dropbox Breach: Fewer Than 100 Accounts Affected, but One Person Actively Exploited Security Hole /by @gruber http://ur1.ca/4j4udJun 25 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] MT @openbytes @glynmoody WikiLove: An experiment in #appreciation - http://ur1.ca/4j4uj interest: wonder if it will work #wikipedia #kudosJun 25 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @glynmoody #Skype mess: How far will this go? - http://bit.ly/irJe6b this will be fun when it gets to #microsoft....Jun 25 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Melbourne !Blender meet-up: Thursday the 30th of June • by cekuhnen http://ping.fm/j9BLLJun 25 11:37
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DaemonFCour governor seems to be hiding under his desk and stating "no comment" through a spokesperson Jun 25 11:39
DaemonFCsome people want this guy to run for presidentJun 25 11:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #Taming kicks off... http://ur1.ca/4j4wkJun 25 11:42
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DaemonFChttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303339904576405764260665624.htmlJun 25 11:46
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DaemonFC"highly sophisticated and unlawful cyberattack" Jun 25 11:46
DaemonFCI wonder how sophisticated and skillful it had to be if their security was anything near as buggy as all their gamesJun 25 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: File-Hoster Returns With Guns Blazing After Police Raids http://is.gd/1USuLy !piracy !filesharingJun 25 11:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @carlopiana: Bessen: study on #swpats shows benefit for deep pockets & lawyers, not SWindustry or society. http://is.gd/mqxzxqJun 25 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] New piratey avatar coming soon......Goblin looses the cowboy hat, its Pirate time....Sink em all:Jun 25 11:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] New piratey avatar coming soon......Goblin looses the cowboy hat, its Pirate time....Sink em all: http://ur1.ca/4j4yxJun 25 11:52
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DaemonFCaccording to Statcounter, IE (all versions, global share) is at 43% nowJun 25 11:54
DaemonFCNet Applications which is paid by Microsoft to skew results still claims IE is above 60%Jun 25 11:55
DaemonFCat this rate, by the end of the year IE will definitely be under 40%Jun 25 11:55
DaemonFCand IE 9 doesn't seem to have had any effect to gain users (just as IE 8 didn't)Jun 25 11:56
DaemonFCWindows XP still has as many users as Windows Vista and Windows 7 combinedJun 25 11:57
DaemonFCApple's iOS is fallingJun 25 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Arduino + Roomba: The Ard2-D2oomba? • by James Floyd Kelly http://ping.fm/ptHpuJun 25 11:59
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DaemonFCAndroid is gaining big timeJun 25 11:59
DaemonFCWindows Phone is so obscure they don't even track it by nameJun 25 11:59
DaemonFCGoogle still gets 91% of search traffic, Bing has fallen below 4%Jun 25 12:00
DaemonFCiphone is losing usersJun 25 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Off to the village fete now...Jun 25 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I Shall Woo Her http://molo.me/p/6Um3Oh #TamingJun 25 12:02
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DaemonFCOpera still has the most popular mobile browser, but the one that comes with Android is eating into that a little Jun 25 12:02
DaemonFCeverything else is sinking like a stoneJun 25 12:02
DaemonFCoh well, there's one good thing about Chrome, it's not IEJun 25 12:06
oiaohmDaemonFC: You have to remember Opera has had the mobile space fairly much alone.Jun 25 12:20
oiaohmNext 12 should get interesting as firefox enters that marketJun 25 12:20
DaemonFCnot alone, it was just Opera and also-ransJun 25 12:20
DaemonFCnot that I want to lump it in with IE, but IE had that on the desktop for a whileJun 25 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Will You, Nill You http://molo.me/p/5fuinf #TamingJun 25 12:20
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oiaohmNot like IE mobile edition is functional Jun 25 12:21
oiaohmReally IE mobile edition is the only thing that makes IE look fully functional.Jun 25 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] General information on the carbon trading system can be found here http://ipcc.chJun 25 12:22
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DaemonFCOpera is looking for more ways to monetize their desktop browser lately, but the influx of cash seems to be spent mostly on increased developmentJun 25 12:22
DaemonFCthey have Bing as one of the search engines, they have a lot of sponsors in the speed dial by defaultJun 25 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] An average farmer is paid KES 850 [US$~10] per metric tonne of CO² sequestered by the on-farm planted trees.Jun 25 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Mark my words. Carbon Trading will be big business in !Africa.Jun 25 12:25
oiaohmBing is a classic example money cannot buy market share.Jun 25 12:26
DaemonFCyeah, like Mark Shuttleworth has been throwing his money every which way trying to promote UbuntuJun 25 12:27
DaemonFCand most of what it has done is cannibalize other distributions, not hack away at WindowsJun 25 12:27
oiaohmReally noJun 25 12:28
oiaohmEven with all Mark Shuttleworth money he has brought in new people.Jun 25 12:28
DaemonFCwhat I see is that desktop Linux has been stagnant for yearsJun 25 12:28
oiaohmProblem is they are slowly leaking out of Ubuntu either back to windows.Jun 25 12:28
DaemonFCbut more people using it are using Ubuntu's nowJun 25 12:28
oiaohmOr to Linux.Jun 25 12:28
DaemonFCand abandoning other distributionsJun 25 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dutch net neutrality law lights the way for Europe - http://bit.ly/koFb8s time to go dutch? #nl #netneutralityJun 25 12:29
oiaohmI have seen numbers increase on other distrobutions.Jun 25 12:29
oiaohmlast 12 DaemonFCJun 25 12:29
DaemonFCyes, Fedora is making gainsJun 25 12:29
DaemonFCso is Linux Mint if you count thatJun 25 12:29
oiaohmIf this was 2 years ago your assessment was right.Jun 25 12:29
DaemonFCreally you can't depend that much on Ubuntu and not call it UbuntuJun 25 12:29
oiaohmBasically Mark Shuttleworth shot self in foot last 12.Jun 25 12:30
DaemonFCwhat if Ubuntu makes core changes that break things for you?Jun 25 12:30
DaemonFCwhat do you do then?Jun 25 12:30
DaemonFCyou see that in Mint 11, where things are falling apartJun 25 12:30
DaemonFCsometimes you log in and there's no theme applied to your GNOME session for exampleJun 25 12:30
oiaohmI have see some coming into SLJun 25 12:30
oiaohmMostly because SL is kinda predictable.Jun 25 12:30
oiaohmAnd they are sick of fedora and Ubuntu unpredictable.Jun 25 12:31
DaemonFCScientific is impressive, they're only usually a matter of weeks behind RHEL for point updates Jun 25 12:31
DaemonFCit only took a few months for them to get their RHEL 6 clone outJun 25 12:31
DaemonFCCentOS still doesn't have oneJun 25 12:31
oiaohmScientific has the advantage is 90 percent funded.Jun 25 12:32
oiaohmie Cern and others.Jun 25 12:32
oiaohmSo it can compete head to head with redhat on equal footing.Jun 25 12:32
DaemonFCFedora is unpredictable, but Ubuntu has that, and a bunch of people who have no idea what they're doing maintaining itJun 25 12:32
DaemonFCwhich I see as a recipe for disaster Jun 25 12:32
oiaohmFedora's people do know what they are doing.Jun 25 12:32
DaemonFCrightJun 25 12:33
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oiaohmOk they might blow your feet off trying something expermental.Jun 25 12:33
oiaohmBut they will be able to tell you exactly how to fix it from the Fedora side.Jun 25 12:33
DaemonFCso even though it is not predictable and fast moving, the updates usually turn out OK anywayJun 25 12:33
DaemonFCand if something breaks, there probably will be a fix soonJun 25 12:33
oiaohmExactly.Jun 25 12:33
oiaohmSL most likely not broken.Jun 25 12:34
oiaohmBut if something is broken and you report it 48 hours and it will be fixed.Jun 25 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @JayMontano: Nokia N950 Manual - Welcome, developer! #MeeGo #Harmattan http://bit.ly/jdnfshJun 25 12:34
DaemonFCif you need a RHEL clone, use SLJun 25 12:34
oiaohmRemember about 1/4 of the packages in RHEL were packaged by SL any how.Jun 25 12:35
DaemonFCCentOS is still pushing their 5.x seriesJun 25 12:35
DaemonFCI don't know whyJun 25 12:35
oiaohmSo its a little hard to call SL a clone.Jun 25 12:35
DaemonFC6 may never comeJun 25 12:35
oiaohmI more call SL RHEL little brother.Jun 25 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @JayMontano Nokia N950 Dismantled internal/external photos of disassembled Dev MeeGo Phone 12MP Carl Zeiss confirmed http://bit.ly/kWalIgJun 25 12:35
oiaohmIe gets hand me downs from time to time but can give its bigger brother a black eye from time to time.Jun 25 12:36
oiaohmCentOS has a resources problem.Jun 25 12:36
oiaohmMost of the CentOS are jumping ship to SLJun 25 12:36
oiaohmSince SL has far better support responcesJun 25 12:36
oiaohmThat migration you cannot blame them.Jun 25 12:37
oiaohm Someone offers you better quality same price what would you do.Jun 25 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] French Lessons http://molo.me/p/9hd9Wh #TamingJun 25 12:40
DaemonFCSL has a very nice priceJun 25 12:42
DaemonFCfreeJun 25 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Take Me to the Church http://molo.me/p/6y61Tz #TamingJun 25 12:42
DaemonFCRHEL costs a lot of money just to run it as a desktopJun 25 12:42
DaemonFCFirefox 5 final is in remi-test for FedoraJun 25 12:49
DaemonFC:)Jun 25 12:49
oiaohmhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/google/google-driverless-cars-will-soon-hit-the-road-in-nevada  This could bring a new hacker sport.Jun 25 12:49
oiaohmLets see how lost we can get the person in the car.Jun 25 12:49
DaemonFCoiaohm, Volkswagon has an auto drive thing in the worksJun 25 12:50
DaemonFCbut they say you still have to pay attention to what the car is doingJun 25 12:50
DaemonFCwhat point is there in that?Jun 25 12:50
oiaohmVolkswagon is more like and advanced cruse control.Jun 25 12:50
DaemonFCI can see some idiot hitting auto drive then falling asleep and ending up in a wreck Jun 25 12:50
DaemonFCthen suing Volkswagon Jun 25 12:50
oiaohmGoogle is truly a self driving car.Jun 25 12:50
DaemonFCthey have to know this is a bad ideaJun 25 12:51
oiaohmNo Jun 25 12:51
oiaohmVolkswagons is cruse control clase.Jun 25 12:51
oiaohmIt don't auto nav.Jun 25 12:51
oiaohmSo you don't pay attention who knows were you would end up.Jun 25 12:51
DaemonFCsimilar thing happened back when cruise control was new, a guy in a RV sued Winnebago because he though cruise control meant auto pilot and hit the cruise control, went to go make himself a sandwich, and crashedJun 25 12:51
DaemonFC:)Jun 25 12:51
oiaohmProblem is Volkswagon one is slightly smartter than that.Jun 25 12:52
DaemonFCwell the worst thing that would probably happen if you dozed off would be you'd end up out in god knows where with no gasJun 25 12:53
oiaohmIe in gemany set Volkswagon auto drive fall to sleep wake up due to the rough roads in russia or somewhere equalJun 25 12:53
oiaohmWith major headaches.Jun 25 12:53
DaemonFCam I right?Jun 25 12:53
oiaohmYep with the VolkswagonJun 25 12:53
oiaohmGoogle theory should get you home.Jun 25 12:53
oiaohmAs long as you did punch in the right location.Jun 25 12:53
oiaohmAnd someone else did not mess with it.Jun 25 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUpEU A picture is worth 1000 words. And maybe $25,000! Enter the Intel AppUp Travel Photo Challenge here http://bit.ly/iwy2O7Jun 25 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @thp4 New module to post events to the #MeeGo #Harmattan (N950 N9) event feed http://thp.io/2011/eventfeed/ (from my #EuroPython trainingJun 25 12:54
oiaohmI really see google tech is perfect car bomb send system.  DaemonFCJun 25 12:54
oiaohmAfter you by pass the check for human.Jun 25 12:55
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DaemonFCgive it something to crash into you mean? :)Jun 25 13:06
oiaohmDaemonFC: no I mean delivery system.Jun 25 13:07
oiaohmDaemonFC:  so you don't have to find a human wantting to give up their life to drive it.Jun 25 13:08
oiaohmYes we are starting to get too smart for our own good.Jun 25 13:08
oiaohmhttp://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110623  Debians now offically voted with feet over the openoffice vs libreofficeJun 25 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Bill Nye - wouldn't you like someone with his smarts as Science Minister in your country? http://is.gd/thb9UZ #scienceminister #cdnpoliJun 25 13:15
DaemonFChttp://wilwheaton.typepad.com/wwdnbackup/2011/04/i-really-really-really-hate-drm-especially-when-it-screws-honest-people.htmlJun 25 13:21
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Yet people still have not learnt not to have anything todo with DRM infected.Jun 25 13:30
DaemonFCI liked that Jun 25 13:30
DaemonFC"C. Bittorrent it." "I think it's obvious which one will take the least of my time"Jun 25 13:31
DaemonFClolJun 25 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Someone has suggested that Peter Falk's tombstone should read "Just one more thing..." #PeterFalk #anothergiantlostJun 25 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] TeamZombieZak has released the newest #HeroesinHell trailer on #YouTube, go watch it, it's neat: http://youtu.be/yFHPj0mY2_UJun 25 13:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Pictures Have Ears http://molo.me/p/0D3GD8 #TamingJun 25 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: RT @corneliushald: Released #Mong 1.0.3. Get it for your #MeeGo device here: http://t.co/Jh7GXIz /cc @thp4 @timsamoffJun 25 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Report: American Library Assn. Takes Up Resolutions in Support of WikiLeaks, Bradley Manning http://t.co/UiEYu2FJun 25 13:45
DaemonFChttp://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/12/brandon_lee_gay_porn_navy.phpJun 25 13:46
DaemonFClolJun 25 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] To the Gaol! http://molo.me/p/9MlgX7 #TamingJun 25 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Party Scene http://molo.me/p/7oEfR8 #TamingJun 25 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Good Night http://molo.me/p/0BXC7x #TamingJun 25 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Apparently #United_States Secretary of State, #HillaryClinton believes #Gaza is Israeli Territory?Jun 25 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Apparently #United_States Secretary of State, #Hillary_Clinton believes #Gaza is part of #Israel? > http://nd.gd/qsJun 25 14:15
DaemonFCJesus Christ, walks into a hotelJun 25 14:19
DaemonFCgives the guy at the counter some nailsJun 25 14:19
DaemonFCand asks "Can you put me up for the night?"Jun 25 14:19
DaemonFC:PJun 25 14:19
*DaemonFC is watching The CrowJun 25 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Score! http://ur1.ca/4j6rzJun 25 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Sign of the times: You have to look much harder to find news about !microsoft ...... !windows !wp7 !vista !xp !mvp !mvpbuzzJun 25 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Development Release: !Linux Deepin 11.06 RC1 « Chinese community distribution http://ping.fm/xGLrhJun 25 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Professor Corbato: The Origin of the word Daemon http://ping.fm/TlbUDJun 25 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @ronkjeffries: This is chilling. Please spread the word. http://ur1.ca/4j556 "True Crypt User Held in Contempt of Court"Jun 25 14:52
DaemonFCok, plot problemJun 25 14:55
DaemonFCif he can just disappear and reappear at will, why is he running from the police?Jun 25 14:56
DaemonFCgratuitous action sceneJun 25 14:56
DaemonFCB-)Jun 25 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] In my book, pretentiousness is the only sin that there is.Jun 25 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dutch net neutrality law lights the way for Europe - http://bit.ly/koFb8s time to go dutch? #nl #netneutralityJun 25 15:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dear Photograph - http://bit.ly/k48pWb #tarkovsky would have loved this amazingly profound & poignant site (v @paul_clarke)Jun 25 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♻ @glynmoody Mexican Senate: Do Not Sign #ACTA http://bit.ly/mIUELc tool for rich to keep poor countries poor using information restrictionJun 25 15:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @einfeldt @koolfy: @doctorow US citizen held in prison for using TrueCrypt & not prividing the passphrase. http://ur1.ca/4j556 >>like UKJun 25 15:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♻ @brownout Nokia CEO Will Kill !MeeGo Even if N9 Succeeds http://ur1.ca/4j52j #Elop #trojanhorseJun 25 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jordigh/@jordigh] I'll be in Montréal next week for a week. Anyone in the area want to meet up?Jun 25 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hotfile Battles MPAA Over Private User Data Disclosure - http://bit.ly/kKImV6 will plucky little Hotfile resist? #cyberlockerJun 25 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I know nothing about this case, but this sounds blatantly unconstitutional and illegal. http://2tu.us/3dsf Anyone have more info?Jun 25 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Return Of The Broadcast Treaty, wholesale theft of public rights http://ur1.ca/4j7jyJun 25 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @nj3ma: Got the CJ on Twitter, they are already labelling it things like "fastest growing" and "innovation"Jun 25 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Djokovic is no jokeJun 25 15:55
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sebsebseb Jun 25 15:57
oiaohmJust found out something not todo.Jun 25 16:00
oiaohmDon't upgrade QT under KDE while in use.Jun 25 16:00
oiaohmInteresting effect happens.Jun 25 16:00
oiaohmGet the kwin tell me there are no windows open.Jun 25 16:01
oiaohmWhen infact I know there are.Jun 25 16:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @KTNKenya: Corporal on team investigating #HarunMwau shooting incident collapses and dies at Central Police Station.Jun 25 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Man javascript is fun!Jun 25 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] is this true? u are prohibited from demonstrating in front of the White House? ur1.ca/4j7t1 !wlJun 25 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @syntax: Wait. Wait. What? There's a Firefox 5.0 now? What the hell? --- and #Firefox 4 is EOLJun 25 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #sudan score a second goal, score now #KEN 1 - 2 #SUD 29:00Jun 25 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Tupac tribute on the @cypher984. Nice.Jun 25 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian Project News - June 24th, 2011 http://ur1.ca/4ivd0Jun 25 16:44
schestowitzoiaohm: hi!!Jun 25 16:44
schestowitzGood you're hereJun 25 16:44
schestowitzSo I went to some shopsJun 25 16:44
schestowitz(also went swimming and out with friend and stuff but nm)Jun 25 16:44
schestowitzI found a 3-monitor  ATI cardJun 25 16:44
schestowitzAbout 120 quidJun 25 16:45
schestowitzBut..Jun 25 16:45
oiaohmschestowitz: and I should be in bed by now.Jun 25 16:45
schestowitzIt comes with two DVI outputs and one very narrow and small one that the shop can't decipher... saying it's like an Apple oneJun 25 16:45
schestowitzoiaohm: it's thisJun 25 16:45
schestowitz!google radeon hd 5750Jun 25 16:45
oiaohmDisplay portJun 25 16:45
oiaohm??Jun 25 16:46
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schestowitz!google radeon hd 5750Jun 25 16:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 39.11 KBJun 25 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - ATI Radeon™ HD 5750 Graphics | http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-5000/hd-5750/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-5750-overview.aspxJun 25 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Radeon HD 5750 review (Crossfire) | http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5750-review-crossfirex/Jun 25 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Amazon.com: XFX Radeon HD 5750 1GB DDR5 PCIE Graphics Card ... | http://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-5750-Graphics-HD575XZNFC/dp/B002SOX9W2Jun 25 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - AnandTech - AMD's Radeon HD 5770 & 5750: DirectX 11 for the ... | http://www.anandtech.com/show/2856Jun 25 16:46
oiaohmSome people call that the apple one.Jun 25 16:46
schestowitzI told them my old ATI one had a splitter for the DVI to become two VGAsJun 25 16:46
oiaohmdisplay port can chain connect displays.   schestowitzJun 25 16:46
schestowitzYeah.Jun 25 16:46
schestowitzBut they don't know what to attach to itJun 25 16:46
schestowitz!google radeon hd 5750 linuxJun 25 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - [Phoronix] AMD Radeon HD 5750/5770 Review | http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php%3Fview%3D14264Jun 25 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Linux Today - AMD Radeon HD 5750/5770 On Linux | http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2009101303035RVHWJun 25 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - [ubuntu] ATI Linux support ATI Radeon HD5750 - Ubuntu Forums | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D1481501Jun 25 16:46
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - AMD Radeon HD 5750/5770 Linux Review | http://www.ntcompatible.com/news/story/amd_radeon_hd_57505770_linux_review.htmlJun 25 16:46
schestowitzI might ask Mivchael from PhoronixJun 25 16:46
schestowitzHe's like a friendJun 25 16:47
oiaohmRemember those adaptor list from amd I had beforeJun 25 16:47
oiaohmThose are the items that connect to the displayport to make it more useful.Jun 25 16:47
schestowitzI see...Jun 25 16:50
schestowitzLet me see if MicroDirect has this card at cheaper faresJun 25 16:50
schestowitzBTWJun 25 16:50
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schestowitzI trust you that catalyst driver/other can handle triple head, right?Jun 25 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.04 #Natty Narwhal review http://ur1.ca/4j84v "the classic Ubuntu is readily accessible and more polished than ever. " 4 out of 5Jun 25 16:50
schestowitzAs in, it will, somehow, be possible for me to cope with..Jun 25 16:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal review - PC Advisor .::. Size~: 122.57 KBJun 25 16:51
schestowitzAs they don't offer return option in internal items, they saidJun 25 16:51
schestowitzwb, abeNd-orgJun 25 16:52
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/77227636Jun 25 16:53
TechrightsBot-tr@Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jun-11 10:45:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The wife really likes Unity though.Jun 25 16:53
schestowitzSee http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/software/3287802/ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal-review/Jun 25 16:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal review - PC Advisor .::. Size~: 122.65 KBJun 25 16:53
abeNd-orggreetsJun 25 16:53
abeNd-orghanging out at the local public libraryJun 25 16:53
schestowitzHmm... not the same card that I saw http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_juniper&num=1Jun 25 16:57
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schestowitzabeNd-org: goodJun 25 16:57
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schestowitzI'll ask MichaelJun 25 17:00
abeNd-orgi usually spend my Saturdays volunteering at local libraries...probably why i never have time to get anything done in my own life :PJun 25 17:02
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schestowitzabeNd-org: better than what many others are doingJun 25 17:03
schestowitzlike escorting a mate to the barber... /me shakes headJun 25 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora #FAmSCo meeting minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-06-25/fedora-meeting.2011-06-25-14.17.htmlJun 25 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtopic.php?t=23969 this is rather sickening :(Jun 25 17:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Phoronix • !KDE SC 4.7 Release Candidate Hits The Web http://ping.fm/4j0prJun 25 17:07
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schestowitz[17:02] --> Judas_PhD has joined this channel (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com).Jun 25 17:10
schestowitzHi GayJun 25 17:10
schestowitzHi Gary the gayJun 25 17:11
schestowitzstill stalkingJun 25 17:11
schestowitz?Jun 25 17:11
schestowitzEven in phoonix?Jun 25 17:11
schestowitzI was reading the good review at http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_juniper&num=5 the 5750 model I was shown today looks a little different and they claim it to support 3 monitors. Will it work properly with 3 monitors in Linuxl, do you reckon?Jun 25 17:11
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schestowitzMinceR: Judas_PhD is the troll from COLAJun 25 17:11
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schestowitzoiaohm: my mistakeJun 25 17:13
schestowitzthis is the one I saw http://www.maplin.co.uk/ati-radeon-hd5670-1gb-pci-e-graphics-card-397083Jun 25 17:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ATI Radeon HD5670 1GB PCIE Graphics Card Free Delivery : AMD PCI Express : Maplin .::. Size~: 168.28 KBJun 25 17:13
schestowitzhttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?26980-Radeon-HD-5670-for-a-developerJun 25 17:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Radeon HD 5670 for a developer .::. Size~: 27.09 KBJun 25 17:14
schestowitzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1424082Jun 25 17:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [ubuntu] Video Card Woes (HD 5670) - Ubuntu Forums .::. Size~: 108.56 KBJun 25 17:14
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to _GoblinJun 25 17:14
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to _GoblinJun 25 17:14
_GoblinIts a clever handle he's got.....many little digs in it....Jun 25 17:15
MinceRschestowitz: so, should we get rid of him?Jun 25 17:15
_Goblinthe phd to mock you and the Judas, so that he stabs in the backJun 25 17:15
schestowitzOld March 2nd, 2010Jun 25 17:15
schestowitz"Jun 25 17:15
schestowitzgordintoronto's AvatarJun 25 17:15
schestowitz Jun 25 17:15
schestowitzJoin Date: Feb 2008Jun 25 17:15
schestowitzBeans: 2,077Jun 25 17:15
schestowitzUbuntu 10.10 Maverick MeerkatJun 25 17:15
schestowitzJun 25 17:15
schestowitzRe: XFX Radeon HD 5670 Won't work on ubuntu (not supported?)Jun 25 17:15
schestowitzHere's an extract from a review on Newegg:Jun 25 17:15
schestowitz"Cons: Isn't supported in Linux yet (at least not by the open source xorg-ati-radeon or radeonhd drivers), not surprised...TJun 25 17:15
schestowitz"Jun 25 17:15
schestowitzYikes, good that I checkedJun 25 17:15
schestowitzMinceR: sureJun 25 17:15
_Goblinalso he claims to be in music (lol) so JudaPHD...Judaspriest.....it would be clever, if it wasn't transparent.Jun 25 17:15
schestowitzLOLJun 25 17:16
schestowitzhttp://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=260&threadid=137054Jun 25 17:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AMD Game Forums - Linux HD 5670: fglrx can not start X server: segmentation fault on Medion computer P7350 D MD 8860 .::. Size~: 37.35 KBJun 25 17:17
schestowitzSeems like a Linux-hostile card... a shameJun 25 17:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/84552376048033792Jun 25 17:21
TechrightsBot-tr@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz i don't know if I should think of him as pro-linux or typical MS trolls who pose to be linux users only to damage linux?Jun 25 17:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/madcap_loon/status/84567884625485824Jun 25 17:22
TechrightsBot-tr@madcap_loon: @swapnilbhartiya how's that article damaging Linux of all things? @schestowitzJun 25 17:22
schestowitzabout SJVN...Jun 25 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finally found a triple-head card today, but it is still not compatible this year due to ATI/AMD cockup http://ur1.ca/4j8ih #linuxhostileJun 25 17:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ATI Radeon HD 5670 Video Card doesn't work in Backtrack? .::. Size~: 58.54 KBJun 25 17:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sjvn/status/84626312953741312Jun 25 17:22
TechrightsBot-tr@sjvn: @schestowitz Clearly, I'm in a morbid mood!Jun 25 17:22
schestowitz :-)Jun 25 17:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/84628771168206848Jun 25 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr@swapnilbhartiya: @madcap_loon @schestowitz that's the third article in a row declaring failure of Linux and Android from SJVN.Jun 25 17:23
schestowitzNot really. It's the third such headline (IMHO), but the content does not adhere to the headline. @sjvn supports Linux by provoking its enemy to read.Jun 25 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Anyone know how the #Victoria cup tie between #Kenya and #Zimbabwe is going / has gone? #RugbyJun 25 17:24
schestowitzThe problem is, many people just scan through headlines and they only remember negativism about LinuxJun 25 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Try not to die" [IMG] http://ur1.ca/4j8o1 thanks for the advice ;-)Jun 25 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Hmmmm... #Jo and #PhoneGap...Jun 25 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Forget cool, #OpenFlow and networking is now hot! - http://bit.ly/iPzhbF amazing to see how quickly #cisco seems to be on the way outJun 25 17:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @ashcrow 'PBS says its website has been hacked for the 2nd time in a month, with little data stolen' http://ur1.ca/4j8n8 #linkJun 25 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @glynmoody Forget cool, #OpenFlow and networking is now hot! - http://bit.ly/iPzhbF amazing to see how quickly #cisco seems to be on ...Jun 25 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Watch the reaction of #freescale to question about #Windows8 support? it doesn't give a damn. It's all #Linux & #Android http://ur1.ca/4j8t8Jun 25 17:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: Freescale i.MX 6 Quad-core reference design at FTF 2011 .::. Size~: 3.68 KBJun 25 17:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 25/6/2011: More Linux in Airlines, More Patent News http://ur1.ca/4j8wf !techrightsJun 25 17:49
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/84660352968695809Jun 25 17:49
TechrightsBot-tr@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz @sjvn calling linux failed every day makes users think it failed. "A lie repeated a hundred times becomes the truth."Jun 25 17:49
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/77248120Jun 25 17:50
TechrightsBot-tr@Mohan P Ram (mohanpram)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jun-11 16:37:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: shouldn't that be number 1 and not 3?!?Jun 25 17:50
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schestowitzIf all else fails, "try not to die" :-)Jun 25 17:50
abeNd-orgheh, not getting yourself killed is a good thingJun 25 17:51
schestowitzYesJun 25 17:52
schestowitzKind of no. 3 priorityJun 25 17:52
schestowitz http://ur1.ca/4j8o1  Jun 25 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 25/6/2011: More Linux in Airlines, More Patent News http://ur1.ca/4j8wf #techrightsJun 25 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I shall try to find a workaround to graphics cards tomorrow. Wasted hours at some shops today. Almost no shops sell GPUs, at city centre tooJun 25 17:52
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abeNd-orgif not dying is only #3 priority, what are 1 & 2?Jun 25 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Turntable.fm blocks access to everyone outside the US - http://tnw.co/iitL38 "licensing" strikes again. geography? what's that...?Jun 25 17:59
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schestowitzabeNd-org: maybe some quack stuffJun 25 17:59
schestowitz"use a lot of makeup"Jun 25 17:59
schestowitz"Pray"Jun 25 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @jargon @x11r5 u train other bots?Jun 25 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Hoaxes aside, real risks to blogging in Syria. https://eff.org/r.78g #netfreedomJun 25 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Chromium on !Fedora Linux is closing in on Firefox http://ping.fm/6bYKuJun 25 18:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Had no idea it was raining this side of town.Jun 25 18:17
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schestowitz[12:02] <DaemonFC> iphone is losing usersJun 25 18:20
schestowitzlosing lusersJun 25 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] noticed #LadyGaga is endorsing #Chrome now, TV ad is a lot of youtube fan vids, does she allow them? or go DMCA nuts at them?Jun 25 18:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I know she tried to trademark "gaga" a while back as a brand, dunno what her stance is on other "IP" issuesJun 25 18:27
schestowitzdoes anyone know this maker? http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/graphics_cards/m_series/m9138lppciex16/Jun 25 18:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Matrox Graphics - Products - Graphics Cards - M-Series - M9138 LP PCIe x16 .::. Size~: 33.21 KBJun 25 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !stats: This is my 8000th notice on !identica \o/Jun 25 18:32
schestowitzhttp://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/buy/Jun 25 18:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The First International Bank of !lo (Page 1) / SMP Server / Sixgun Forums - http://sixgun.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3693 !minersJun 25 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] The US jails a larger proportion of its black community than South Africa did at the height of Apartheid > http://nd.gd/qt cc @nj3maJun 25 18:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Do #Smurfs provide a model for a good society? http://is.gd/bIgvHA Smurfin' hellJun 25 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @jargon @vanden picturing u sticking your music player earbuds in the alien's ears,seconds before it vaporizes u with something painf ...Jun 25 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mo6020: "fastboot oem unlock" #NexusSJun 25 18:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Diabetes epidemic affects 350 million as crisis spreads to developing nations - http://bit.ly/m2LFCa but UK better than expected: why?Jun 25 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] some sand http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110625 #sip_and_clickJun 25 19:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I love my #Nescafé Dolce Gusto machineJun 25 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @ashcrow: ♻ @lstench #Nokia's new #MeeGo-based N9 is set up for failure http://ur1.ca/4iv6xJun 25 19:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Attention !Miners: Beta test the !BunchOfCreepers texture pack - http://sixgun.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60226Jun 25 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @andregondim @Canonical Canonical billboards at Puerto Allegre Brazil for FISL; ubuntuone.com/p/10wQ/ #Ubuntu #locoteamsJun 25 19:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Finally on !Debian testing (Wheezy), after a 1GB plus upgrade from Squeeze. Now to get Iceweasel (Firefox) 5.0Jun 25 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @linuxquestions: We're proud to announce that LinuxQuestions.org turned 11 today. http://tqn.me/lG77mcJun 25 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Creepers texture pack !Miners http://ur1.ca/4j9n8Jun 25 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh that was a very thorough article, although it should probably have referred to the N9 as a "Meego compatible" deviceJun 25 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Good point.Jun 25 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] PlayStation Network Better Following Disastrous Breach - Attack of the Fanboy http://ping.fm/HG468Jun 25 19:42
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Windows XP in a  virtual machine again, as of last nightJun 25 19:53
sebsebseb_Goblin:  see above as wellJun 25 19:57
sebsebseboh MinceR yeah Microsoft in a vm again, oh no how bad heh heh, eh well with good reason as wellJun 25 19:57
MinceRmehJun 25 19:57
sebsebsebMinceR: well hopefuly this will work with my driving thorey DVD :) and headset for that matterJun 25 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Why do Firefox updates break add-ons? http://www.oxymoronical.com/blog/2011/06/Why-do-Firefox-updates-break-add-onsJun 25 19:59
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sebsebsebMinceR: sometimes go to use Windows, because of somethingJun 25 19:59
MinceRyeah, it happensJun 25 20:00
sebsebsebMinceR: well Linux distros aren't really meant to replace Windows anywhere  near 100% reallyJun 25 20:01
sebsebsebif anything though they are meant to replace UnixJun 25 20:01
MinceRby whom?Jun 25 20:01
sebsebsebMinceR: however it's because I got stuff that is designed for Windows  really, that I got a XP vm againJun 25 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @weeguy: h huj mkJun 25 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] JAFFA CAKES! COM' ERE!!!!Jun 25 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] You gotta prioritise, Lewis. :DJun 25 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Movies aren't Minecraft so they're dead to me" ~ @windigo in #Minecraft chatJun 25 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @psquid: Better not let @fabsh have a flint & tinder.Jun 25 20:15
schestowitz_Goblin: all worked wellJun 25 20:17
schestowitzjono's stuff on HDDJun 25 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Lantern-powered cock rings. Apparently.Jun 25 20:17
schestowitzJudas_PhD: hey, Gary, got life?Jun 25 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mozilla to Businesses: We're Not Interested (PC Mag) http://lwn.net/Articles/449220/rssJun 25 20:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Steve Jobs is a fucking annoying arsehole. He alone is reason enough for me to never buy another Apple device.Jun 25 20:22
_Goblinschestowitz: cool...Jun 25 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange passes 200 days of house arrest today, High Court appeal in 16 days http://t.co/LtjzHssJun 25 20:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Home alone till tomorrow afternoon.Jun 25 20:32
schestowitz_Goblin: Gary lurks here to learn how people with real life are like... maybe he too can be a normal person before he drops deadJun 25 20:33
_Goblinlol...Jun 25 20:33
_Goblinbut he's a sucessfull audio engineer.....Jun 25 20:34
_Goblinlol....Jun 25 20:34
_Goblindidn't you know Roy, all professionals in the music industry lurk in Linux channels and write vile posts to comp.os.linux.advocacy ?Jun 25 20:34
_Goblin;)Jun 25 20:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: Jono stuff on HDD, what stuff?Jun 25 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] My desktop for an audiocast section (TechBytes 52) ..with the mandatory terminal running! http://ur1.ca/4j9wyJun 25 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 220 dents!Jun 25 20:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] For all your feline bathroom needs http://catsinsinks.com/Jun 25 20:47
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schestowitzsebsebseb: his STASH! j/kJun 25 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, time to crank the Tele.... :DJun 25 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Five more fundraising seats to Assange+Zizek lunch, evening available http://t.co/dhMhO0CJun 25 20:55
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schestowitzI think I may retreat from the idea of triple head on one GPUJun 25 20:58
schestowitzI did spend so much time on it today. I guess it's not time wasted because it's merely research, resulting in the decision that it would be expensive to add a third (or fifth) wheel that mostly eats up energyJun 25 20:58
MinceRhttp://narf-archive.com/pix/6596834233fcecfa382bee8466834af2cc81971e.pngJun 25 21:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Wow, Cut the Rope is awesome! I love it!Jun 25 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Traditional Moba Music: help some villagers in Togo buy a donkey and cart http://bit.ly/luooTJ #art_not_charityJun 25 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Rocking out with Mark !Knopfler.Jun 25 21:09
schestowitzhttp://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=405&threadid=144642 it's kind of sucky in placesJun 25 21:11
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schestowitzThe nvidia ones are more expensive than a very good bikeJun 25 21:12
schestowitz!google nvidia tripleJun 25 21:13
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - GeForce GTX 480 - NVIDIA | http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_480_us.htmlJun 25 21:13
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 3-Way SLI | http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_3waysli.htmlJun 25 21:13
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Introduction - NVIDIA GeForce 3-Way SLI and Radeon Tri-Fire Review ... | http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/04/28/nvidia_geforce_3way_sli_radeon_trifire_reviewJun 25 21:13
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - NVIDIA SLI faces AMD CrossFire in a triple-GPU shootout -- Engadget | http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/16/nvidia-sli-faces-amd-crossfire-in-a-triple-gpu-shootout/Jun 25 21:13
schestowitzthe whole area if retarded, also for WindowsJun 25 21:13
schestowitzhttp://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=94574Jun 25 21:14
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schestowitzBack in the days kde4 had limited dualhead support Jun 25 21:14
schestowitzSeems like at greater than 2 it still has blind spots.. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=160937Jun 25 21:15
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schestowitz"Jun 25 21:15
schestowitzIf I only have twinview enabled with two monitors, KDE can distinguish between the monitors (fullscreen only goes to one monitor).Jun 25 21:15
schestowitzBut if I enable the third monitor to be on a separate X, KDE only sees one monitor and fullscreens into both of them.Jun 25 21:15
schestowitzHow can I enable my third monitor but still have nvidia report the monitor info to my DE?Jun 25 21:15
schestowitz"Jun 25 21:15
schestowitzThat's no goodJun 25 21:15
schestowitzI think I'm giving upJun 25 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] High on the wind the highland drums begin to roll...Jun 25 21:15
sebsebsebwell that was  phone, very briefuly showed my little brother XP running in Virtualbox :D, but well he had to go to bedJun 25 21:25
sebsebsebphone?  fun I meant to putJun 25 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @reality: Asshole kid beat me at Burnout. Bitch.Jun 25 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] *finally* got DVI video out of my MacBook Air. Monoprice didn't work. Apple's adapter did. :/Jun 25 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well, we have a name for the show, now to start working out the site, both will be announced when the time is right #staytuned ;PJun 25 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] BOOM LIKE THAT!Jun 25 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Prove It http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGMPNGCrn5AJun 25 21:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @clawoflight: @fabsh Bruce Springsteen ftwJun 25 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @dpic @jimmy_wales Why !FreeKnowledge requires !FreeSoftware and !Free File Formats: http://redd.it/i92wv !lp !sfc !gnu !ccJun 25 22:02
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schestowitzOh, I finally found what caused all videos to be brightJun 25 22:02
schestowitzMy hardware acceleration settings I mistakenluy changedJun 25 22:03
schestowitzxvideo settingsJun 25 22:03
schestowitzNow it's all resolvedJun 25 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @davidmn: Boo-yah! I've got cyanogenmod!!!!!Jun 25 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just test-rendered the !Miners map with the !Creepers texture pack. Looks much more realistic.Jun 25 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Gnome Shell is like hemorrhoids". And people complain about my comments on stuff. OoJun 25 22:10
_GoblinOk...Jun 25 22:12
_GoblinWhat should I do....?Jun 25 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WTF!? Surprise mushroom farm. OoJun 25 22:12
_GoblinI think Gary has been here long enough........time to walk the plank I think.Jun 25 22:12
_Goblinwhen he next returnsJun 25 22:13
ThistleWebreturn of the gary? yeah knock off nigel sold movies like thatJun 25 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @psquid: The mushrooms are running wild. :(Jun 25 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Shroom Invasion! OoJun 25 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh if #GnomeShell is like haemorrhoids does that mean the extensions are like the cream?Jun 25 22:15
schestowitz_Goblin: he'll nymshiftJun 25 22:16
schestowitzas he did hundreds of thousands of times in COLAJun 25 22:16
schestowitzIf you determine the IP ranges, only then will a ban be effectiveJun 25 22:16
schestowitzAnd he can still read logs, which is just not a real-time mudrakingJun 25 22:17
_GoblinIt makes him work harder if he has to read the logsJun 25 22:17
MinceRso, ban the host and see what happens?Jun 25 22:17
schestowitzYou'd think the troll will be patient enough to wait for logsJun 25 22:17
schestowitzBut no, the troll will sit here 24/7 making plans for the day afterJun 25 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "It is like the Soviet Union" Dude. Seriously. If I had a gun.Jun 25 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] !Listening to a very husky Dr. @schestowitz on Techbytes Episode 21.Jun 25 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Hey there, how's your day been?Jun 25 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Slooooow :PJun 25 22:22
schestowitzSo everything has quieted down for the night. Now working to run imap daemon locally, for testing purposes. I will need to make a dummy setup by setting up config files.Jun 25 22:24
schestowitz_Goblin: I think Gary will never be the same now that he too knows that we've known who he was in a whileJun 25 22:25
schestowitzJudging by what I see in COLA, this made him more of a laughing stock there, in need of psychiatric treatmentJun 25 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] LulzSec video archive http://t.co/TpMnUa6Jun 25 22:25
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ThistleWeboooh judas is gone....gary?Jun 25 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. ASCII art Preparation H. Classic. :DJun 25 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: @fabsh Hah, "You've Created A Monster" is the name of my Justin Beiber cover band!!! ;)Jun 25 22:45
_Goblinhe left before I made him walk the plankJun 25 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Burning trees. :PJun 25 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Hitler And The Downfall Of Silverlight http://is.gd/rJ4Xhj !microsoft !silverlight !mono !windows !windows7 !vista !xp !mvp !mvpbuzzJun 25 22:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "I'm sorry but your comment comparing our desktop environment to an anal infliction doesn't agree with out CoC." ROFL. Losers...Jun 25 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @kevie: My mates wife just left him took his satalite dish & all his Bob Marley records. Poor guy: No woman No sky.Jun 25 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @kevie: My mates wife just left him took his satalite dish & all his Bob Marley records. Poor guy: No woman No sky.Jun 25 22:54
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/sjvn/statuses/84673503466496000Jun 25 22:54
TechrightsBot-tr@sjvn: @swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz I've said Linux is great many more times. I call them like I see 'em. Usually, but not always, Linux wins.Jun 25 22:54
schestowitzI see I got some compliments in COLA this morning :-) http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/59fc36cecf401c5a#Jun 25 22:55
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schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/3f707e04e22b2503#Jun 25 22:55
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_Goblinschestowitz: yep..... I saw that.....Jun 25 22:57
_Goblinschestowitz: did you also see about COLA.moderated?Jun 25 22:57
schestowitzI haven't, what's it about?Jun 25 23:03
_GoblinOh...it was just a suggestion for a moderated COLAJun 25 23:11
_GoblinI don't like the idea..... the trolls show disgusting Microsoft behaviour.Jun 25 23:11
_GoblinRoy...I have a suggestion..... why post the IRC logs here at all?Jun 25 23:12
schestowitzLater on I will need to arrange a test machine/VM for that bunch of tests to ensure I do not break the software (beyond compilation success/failure) as I go along. In the mean time, I have been looking at code deciphering CRC-32 values that are commonly used. This on is not exactly what we want, but bits code from there are relevant and are Public Domain:Jun 25 23:13
schestowitzhttp://www.csbruce.com/~csbruce/software/crc32.cJun 25 23:13
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_GoblinI can't see many people trawling through them and if its because of the claim that it shows openess then I'd suggest the logs could be tampered with anyway........Jun 25 23:14
_GoblinIf you remove the logs, you force the trolls here to read it live.....then they can be identified and challenged.Jun 25 23:14
schestowitzno, that would be worseJun 25 23:14
_Goblinreally?Jun 25 23:14
schestowitzI don't want to spend time talkggn to tollsJun 25 23:15
_Goblinyou don't have toJun 25 23:15
schestowitzFor same reasons Daily KosJun 25 23:15
schestowitzCyrus appears to have its own academic licence and therefore putting copyleft in it might not be possible (e.g. Boost Software License at http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt for http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_37_0/libs/crc/index.html ), which narrows down what's available. Code samples for CRC are available in http://www.netrino.com/Embedded-Systems/How-To/CRC-Calculation-C-Code but these are incomplete. There are Python, Java, and Jun 25 23:15
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schestowitzC++ implementations, but these would not be suitable for merging with cyrus imapd.Jun 25 23:15
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_Goblinyou just do what you've been doing....getting on with posting articles.Jun 25 23:15
_Goblinthere are many people here.  Someone will point out the troll...Jun 25 23:15
schestowitzsome people are misindentifiedJun 25 23:15
schestowitzAnd then insultedJun 25 23:15
_Goblinvery true.....Jun 25 23:15
MinceRif you kickban the trolls, you don't have to talk to themJun 25 23:15
schestowitzIt happened a lot when we had trolls here in 2009Jun 25 23:16
schestowitzAnd this served the trolls even betterJun 25 23:16
schestowitzAn atmosphere of distrustJun 25 23:16
_Goblinbut then if the troll wants to come here "live" and just lurk, then that is okJun 25 23:16
schestowitzdoesn't harm the channelJun 25 23:16
_GoblinAt the moment Roy, you have people watching what they say since the logs are published and can be used against them.Jun 25 23:16
schestowitzAt the moment, Gary advertises this channelJun 25 23:17
schestowitzThat's why msb_ for example is hereJun 25 23:17
schestowitzLet him advertiseJun 25 23:17
schestowitzHe's stupid like thatJun 25 23:17
_GoblinI can name (I won't) three people who have been concerned that something they have typed will be misrepresented when its published on TechrightsJun 25 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I can't believe it's six o'clock already... where did the day go? Guess it could be worse, !Listening to Cab Calloway who's cool + funJun 25 23:17
_Goblinnot by you, but by those who quote the logsJun 25 23:17
schestowitzmaybe they'll be dicouraged from saying things they shouldn't have said in the first placeJun 25 23:18
schestowitzThat's what transparency doesJun 25 23:18
_Goblinthen thats not free speach or open is it?Jun 25 23:18
schestowitzIt breeds trust from the outsideJun 25 23:18
_Goblinits a sort of self censorship born out of fear of something that might happenJun 25 23:18
schestowitzIt's like saying, London's Cirty Council should work secretly because Boris might be shy to say certain thingsJun 25 23:18
schestowitzThings he oughtn't have said anywayJun 25 23:19
_Goblinbut transparency is here if people just visit the channelJun 25 23:19
_Goblinor you could sayJun 25 23:19
schestowitzyou mean self-restraintJun 25 23:19
_GoblinBoris doesn't talk to reporters fully openly beccause of what might be printed.Jun 25 23:19
schestowitzthey can still say what they wantJun 25 23:19
schestowitzI can go to the streets and shout "god hates fags"Jun 25 23:19
_Goblinnot really.....not when its taken out of context.Jun 25 23:19
schestowitzDoesn't mean I'll be greetdJun 25 23:19
schestowitzThat's free speechJun 25 23:20
_Goblinok....heres a questionJun 25 23:20
schestowitzFree speech does not depend me from ridiculeJun 25 23:20
_Goblinif you were in a pub, would you mind being recorded in audio/video on CCTV?Jun 25 23:20
schestowitzThan againt, some religious people want to impede free speech by making it an offence "to choose to be insulted"Jun 25 23:20
_Goblinwould you speak as freely knowing that your voice is being recorded.Jun 25 23:20
_GoblinIts effectively what the logs here doJun 25 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today's "!InconstantMoon serialization online finally. Seemed fun to stick in a pile of photos; not sure it works tho. http://ur1.ca/4jajjJun 25 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @benanov: @x1101 gotta print your own @bkuhn action figure. GPL not included, subpoena sold seperately.Jun 25 23:20
schestowitzWe are watched, yesJun 25 23:21
schestowitzThis is not a pubJun 25 23:21
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_Goblinno but its a social venueJun 25 23:21
schestowitzThis ia a roundtable of ~30 peopleJun 25 23:21
schestowitzThink of it as a tavern meetupJun 25 23:21
schestowitzBeing broadcastedJun 25 23:21
_Goblinthe pub was an exampleJun 25 23:21
schestowitzprivate messages stay privatJun 25 23:21
schestowitzPub suggested smalltalkJun 25 23:22
_GoblinI'd be interested in hearing what others think....maybe when they catch up with the txt they can give their views.Jun 25 23:22
schestowitzIt's associated with private communication between very few people, usually Jun 25 23:22
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_Goblinbut then theres smalltalk here....Jun 25 23:22
_Goblinits a very diverse channelJun 25 23:22
schestowitzwith audienceJun 25 23:22
schestowitzpeople dpn't delude themselves into a feeling of privacyJun 25 23:23
schestowitzThe channel is usually abuzz with outside singlaJun 25 23:23
_Goblinyou see and as coroboration these logs are worthless.Jun 25 23:23
schestowitz*signalJun 25 23:23
_Goblinyou could edit them before publishing if you really wanted tooJun 25 23:23
schestowitzthis channel does not replace privacyJun 25 23:23
schestowitzit's just here not for the purpose of privacyJun 25 23:23
schestowitzThink of it as a forumJun 25 23:23
schestowitzWe created it to replace/complement blog commentsJun 25 23:24
schestowitzBecause comments are not real-timeJun 25 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @windigo: Just watched a piston video from Mojang - you can use them as a gate to control fluids. :D !minersJun 25 23:24
_Goblinbut then its more than a forum...Jun 25 23:24
schestowitzIn the past we were more impersonal and on-topicJun 25 23:24
_Goblinas you say, its real time.Jun 25 23:24
schestowitzMinceR would remember..Jun 25 23:24
*MinceR doesJun 25 23:25
schestowitzBTW, I've officially aborted the triplehead ideaJun 25 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @andyc: #tinap sees all and hears all that is uttered in the !identiverse. Our spies are everywhere.Jun 25 23:25
schestowitzTravelled tot he market, went all over city centre and beyond.. nothing easy and safe foundJun 25 23:26
schestowitzMaplin won't even guarantee returns on a GPUJun 25 23:26
schestowitzWhich I found a bit odd for any shopJun 25 23:26
schestowitzAnd anyway, their card does not support Linux (not vice versa)Jun 25 23:26
schestowitzOther ones are for 6 monitors and cost the same as a whole new PCJun 25 23:27
schestowitzSo I wasted my day and it sure feels like a wasteJun 25 23:27
schestowitzTrying to make up for it by coding todayn and I'\ll catch up with news and Techrights blog tomorrowJun 25 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to Distemia (España) San Sebastrián jueves noche from !jamendo ... makes me think of cool Hitchcock movies !cc-byJun 25 23:27
schestowitzMaybe we'll even publish TechBytes episodeJun 25 23:27
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schestowitz_Goblin: can there be a Solo Tim episode this month? Would help silence trolls with audio fetish :-)Jun 25 23:28
schestowitz"Done with Linux"Jun 25 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @andyc: I don't like Coldplay but would need that 4 billion character SN instance to fully articulate why.Jun 25 23:30
_Goblinschestowitz: there will be...now im off Ive no excuse!Jun 25 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @faither Maybe not, but those Hitler vids, are very funny (usually at the expense of Microsoft I hasten to add)Jun 25 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @faither I like the comment re: the dumped developers....Jun 25 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "A holy smile, the kind of smile the virgin gave to the angel before he had his way with her." @xavierleret Heaven Sent http://ur1.ca/4jan8Jun 25 23:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Playing a little hooky from formatting (so as not to take an axe to computer) I've begun @xavierleret's "Heaven Sent" http://ur1.ca/4jao0 :)Jun 25 23:57
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