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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @saskboy Funny bike lane indicator in Regina. The O N and Y are all backwards, you can oNly notice the N though. http://ur1.ca/4japmJun 26 00:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] TechBytes Episode 51: Nokia to help Microsoft legal case over Android, LinuxJun 26 00:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Android, iPad, BlackBerry and Windows tablet group test http://is.gd/O2inhI !windows !windows7 !microsoft -- Another fail for Windows?Jun 26 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] making good progress on my irc botJun 26 00:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] upgrading my !KDE Desktop on my !Archlinux box from 4.7b1 to 4.7RC1 from [kde-unstable] repo. Let's see how that goes :D #awesomenessJun 26 00:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] But then, I'm not labouring under the influence of a constitution that thinks being armed is equal to being free.Jun 26 00:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I think I have hermorrhoids. Oh, phew.... It was only Gnome Shell. ;)Jun 26 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Japanese friends, here's Iwanami for new edition of Age of WikiLeaks. Also at amazon. http://t.co/ujBxgM4Jun 26 00:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @reality: Javascript is getting out of control. Node JS pacakages, packages.js. Prototype, JQuery. Update the fucking standard.Jun 26 00:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange before the storm: The Hidden Curse of Thomas Paine http://t.co/ONlecBjJun 26 01:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @kevieJun 26 01:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Nearly done with this !LO episode. Finally.Jun 26 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It's absurd, because like culture, language can't be legislated; trying to control culture or language makes it sicken and die. !copyrightJun 26 01:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @benanov @x1101 gotta print your own @bkuhn action figure. GPL not included, subpoena sold seperately.Jun 26 01:37
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GoForbes28hi allJun 26 02:00
_Goblinhi thereJun 26 02:01
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GoForbes28hows it going?Jun 26 02:05
_Goblinyeah goodJun 26 02:05
_Goblingot a 4 days off...Jun 26 02:05
_Goblinso life is goodJun 26 02:05
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GoForbes28niceJun 26 02:23
GoForbes28in other news, MAFIAA has gone after HotfileJun 26 02:23
GoForbes28Essentially what the MPAA wants in this case is nothing less than the comapny itselfJun 26 02:24
_Goblinyeah I was reading about thatJun 26 02:24
GoForbes28I wonder if they store the IP addressesJun 26 02:25
_GoblinIf they do, Id question why they do....afterall if you have no IP records, you can't be threatened by anyone else.Jun 26 02:26
GoForbes28good pointJun 26 02:26
_Goblinand if im not mistaken, theres no law (yet) which makes this compulsaryJun 26 02:26
_Goblinbut mark my words....Jun 26 02:26
GoForbes28yepJun 26 02:26
_Goblinopen WIFI will soon be an offense....Jun 26 02:26
GoForbes28yepJun 26 02:26
_Goblinjust look at a similar (mad) lawJun 26 02:26
GoForbes28as will Freenet, Tor, and pretty much anythingJun 26 02:26
GoForbes28specifically?Jun 26 02:27
_GoblinIts an offence to leave your car running with the keys in.Jun 26 02:27
_GoblinThe OpenWIFI defense is a massive issueJun 26 02:27
_Goblinespecially in a criminal courtJun 26 02:27
_Goblin"beyond all reasonable doubt" is destroyed with an OpenWIFI defense (in the absence of any other supporting evidence)Jun 26 02:28
GoForbes28Maybe I should string up some ethernet cable around the neighbourhood :PJun 26 02:28
_Goblinmaybe then everyone will be collared.Jun 26 02:28
_Goblina multiple Doe case with no clue as to who is actually guilty......we've seen that before.Jun 26 02:29
GoForbes28DELETE F**KING EVERYTHING?Jun 26 02:29
GoForbes28That appears to be the method in use here. :PJun 26 02:30
_Goblinyep.....however I'm not sure if services would be leaned on by government if they don't record history....Jun 26 02:30
_Goblinit seems all too convenient that the data seems available.....Jun 26 02:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Seletar hosts Triangular Run. On on. http://ur1.ca/4jbupJun 26 02:32
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oiaohm_Goblin: Really the OpenWifi in a lot of cases is a breach of law in it self.Jun 26 03:00
oiaohm_Goblin: Australian law is a prick.Jun 26 03:00
oiaohm_Goblin: Ie providing services to others you require a carrer license.Jun 26 03:01
oiaohmWhat you would not have.Jun 26 03:01
oiaohmTo be correct fine for providing service without a carrer license is greater than copyright infringement.Jun 26 03:01
oiaohmto be correct providing to others without restriction requires a carrier license.Jun 26 03:02
oiaohmNow if you had your wifi encrypted and someone gets in your are legally fine.Jun 26 03:02
_Goblinanother issue of OpenWIFI (despite it being a damn good defence) would be that monitoring of users would probably not occur...governments/agencies don't seem to like anything that can't be catalogued, examined and risk assessed.Jun 26 03:02
oiaohm_Goblin: depends on country.Jun 26 03:02
ThistleWebexcept their own expense sheetsJun 26 03:03
_Goblintrue.....Jun 26 03:03
oiaohmOpenWifi is basically not a defense ehre.Jun 26 03:03
oiaohmIts how to get ass really rapped.Jun 26 03:03
_Goblinbut its what will make it an offence in the UK....mark my words.Jun 26 03:03
oiaohmNote the worse part of losing due to not being a carrier is that you are not allowed to have transmitters.Jun 26 03:03
_Goblinand I reckon it will also be brought in under the umbrella of that "T" word...."for our own safety"Jun 26 03:04
oiaohmIe so that laptop with inbuilt wifi card that is non removable has to go.Jun 26 03:04
oiaohmSo most likely you would plead guilty to copyright infringement because that does not mean losing as much.Jun 26 03:04
oiaohmTo be correct plead guilty to unkownling infringing.Jun 26 03:05
oiaohmSince you believed the other person due to your legal knowledge was legally providing.Jun 26 03:05
_GoblinThe shame is....I would never plead guilty to copyright infringement as it would be contempt of court since I don't see anything with a copyright worth infringing in the first place.Jun 26 03:05
oiaohmNow of course you cannot do that twice.Jun 26 03:06
oiaohmNow if your wifi was encrypted.Jun 26 03:07
oiaohmYou could claim you suspected someone breached it.Jun 26 03:07
oiaohmSince it was encrypted it was not a breach of the carrier rules.Jun 26 03:07
oiaohmIe OpenWifi is not a defense here.Jun 26 03:07
oiaohmAnd encrypted wifi that has possible been hacked it.Jun 26 03:08
oiaohmOf course the police will check it for evidence.Jun 26 03:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] reviewing students exam papers again; only had 3 original works... the rest I could find on baidu.com (or google.com)Jun 26 03:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] the beauty of cloud computing should be the unbranded nature and non-vendor lock-inJun 26 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @gbraad the beauty of cloud computing should be the unbranded nature and non-vendor lock-inJun 26 03:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] http://is.gd/5jODoW http://is.gd/EwAeZl http://is.gd/zzusS5 !OnlyInChina ?Jun 26 04:01
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: poor student behaviour seems to be an increasingly widespread problem and i think - Google Search .::. Size~: 91.38 KBJun 26 04:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I don't think so. Just say no to Tony. He is a PAP yes man to the core. http://ur1.ca/4jc6cJun 26 04:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Greece crisis: #Cronyism is killing business, firms say http://is.gd/FcOIoBJun 26 04:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Asus Eee Pad: The #Android tablet that thinks it's a netbook http://is.gd/XyepDJ looks pretty sweet, gets a good review tooJun 26 05:06
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gnufreexschestowitz: Bill Gates is on Jihad... literally  http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.6307/pub_detail.aspJun 26 05:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RIM CEO calls a halt to #BBC Click interview http://is.gd/2EGwiZ they don't seem to want to guarantee users that RIM won't sell them outJun 26 05:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Bill Gates funds Islamic terrorism 2tu.us/3dt6Jun 26 05:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @omns: RT @eightyeight homosexuality is found in over 450 species. homophobia is only found in one. which one seems unnatural now?Jun 26 05:32
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7nVFe8kkg4&playnext=1&list=PLAD9C08EF65E7254FJun 26 05:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tampa retiree says he lost belongings in foreclosure blunder http://ur1.ca/4jcli #terroristsJun 26 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell Congress: Stop the spread of drug-resistant bacteria. No antibiotics in our food! http://bit.ly/k3ubljJun 26 06:01
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6dM4_tq10MJun 26 06:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Houston man forced to pay child support for child that DNA proves isn’t his http://ur1.ca/4jcnoJun 26 06:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Goodbye Lulzsec, we'll miss you http://ur1.ca/4jcqzJun 26 06:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Looks nice... http://www.google.com/search?q=GT+by+Citroen had never seen this before. #GTbyCitroën #GT #CitroenJun 26 06:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Another #Batman-like car http://www.google.com/search?q=Mazda+Furai the #Mazda #Furai. too bad I do not have the credits to buy it #GTMobileJun 26 06:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @roninmcr ♺ @bananabob: "He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends.." - Oscar Wilde !qJun 26 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haris !shared Anonymous and LulzSec’s Existence Scares ISP into Halting Web Censorship http://b1t.it/oirJun 26 07:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bignose who wants network freedom for all? http://freenetworkfoundation.org/ !libreplanet !freeculture !autonomous !fsf !freesoftwar ...Jun 26 07:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Inconstant Moon Serialization Chapter 31 is posted: http://ur1.ca/4jd3u !SelfPubJun 26 07:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] just committed portage-2.2_alpha41 - this is zmedico's latest stuff with funtoo changes merged in. Masked for testing. !funtooJun 26 07:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mardy: New version of Oculo for #maemo: now your #N900 wallpapers come from the web :-) http://bit.ly/lEldsyJun 26 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Elop rules out possible comeback of Nokia to MeeGo – Nokia N9 http://mge.bz/cT #Nokia #N9 #MeeGo #Harmattan #QtJun 26 08:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Announce: Enhanced #N900 lock screen http://is.gd/bB6rRI #maemoJun 26 08:21
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schestowitz[05:09] <gnufreex> schestowitz: Bill Gates is on Jihad... literally  http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.6307/pub_detail.aspJun 26 08:42
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schestowitzI think I remember reading about itJun 26 08:42
schestowitzIs this new?Jun 26 08:42
gnufreexschestowitz: That poped out now, and it is dated yesterday.Jun 26 08:43
gnufreex*poped out on Religion of Peace siteJun 26 08:43
gnufreexMaybe there was something similarJun 26 08:44
gnufreexAnyways, it makes sense for Gates to like Islam, he uses terrorism against competiton and maybe he'll even send suicide bombers to Google schestowitzJun 26 08:45
gnufreexlolJun 26 08:45
oiaohmGates historically will do anything to achive ends.Jun 26 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh, it looks like ruby_web_catch_listen needs to be renamed to ruby_web_catch_listen_watchJun 26 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Getting Mobile Money: Orange Money helps Orange !Kenya nearly double subscriber figures in latest CCK stats. http://b1t.it/ojGJun 26 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 52: State of Ubuntu and Other Distros http://ur1.ca/4jdei #ubuntu #kde #gnu #linux #patents #appleJun 26 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 52: State of Ubuntu and Other Distros http://ur1.ca/4jdeiJun 26 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] TechBytes Episode 52: State of Ubuntu and Other Distros http://ur1.ca/4jdeiJun 26 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bytesmedia/@bytesmedia] TechBytes Episode 52: State of Ubuntu and Other Distros http://ur1.ca/4jdei new episodeJun 26 08:54
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/77264850Jun 26 08:57
TechrightsBot-tr@Moshe Njema (nj3ma)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jun-11 21:19:38 UTC - Identi.ca: !Listening to a very husky Dr. @schestowitz on Techbytes Episode 21.Jun 26 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I am now leaning towards forgetting about a new GPU. #KDE seems to lack triplehead awareness, even if I got the hardware side sorted outJun 26 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It seems like triplehead is a bit of an uncertain area, still, based on forums http://ur1.ca/4jdfg http://ur1.ca/4jdfhJun 26 08:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Triple head, separate activities • KDE Community Forums .::. Size~: 53.84 KBJun 26 08:57
schestowitzgnufreex: Jun 26 08:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Triple head, twinview + seperate x = KDE only sees one screen - nV News Forums .::. Size~: 68.16 KBJun 26 08:57
schestowitzGoogle gates techrights gulenJun 26 08:57
schestowitz!google gates techrights gulenJun 26 08:58
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Catalyst Notebook :: In the News: Bill Gates rallies charter ... | http://www.catalyst-chicago.org/notebook/index.php/entry/742/In_the_News%253A_Bill_Gates_rallies_charter_advocates%253B_fired_teachers_fight_backJun 26 08:58
schestowitz!google gates techrights islamicJun 26 08:58
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - 2010 September 22 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/09/22/Jun 26 08:58
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2011 March 07 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/03/07/Jun 26 08:58
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Bill Gates 'Helps' the Next United States President | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/12/06/puppet-state-cronyism/Jun 26 08:58
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 2010 June 21 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/06/21/Jun 26 08:58
schestowitzHmm... I think I had better linksJun 26 08:58
gnufreexso it is not newJun 26 08:59
schestowitzGoogle indexed 49k pages from techrightsJun 26 08:59
schestowitzgnufreex: it's notJun 26 08:59
schestowitzlet me find anotherJun 26 08:59
schestowitzhttp://us.generation-nt.com/answer/news-rival-bill-gates-paying-gulen-islamist-movement-bp-nasty-monopolies-allegedly-mugabe-too-help-198732861.htmlJun 26 09:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Answer : [News] [Rival] Bill Gates is Paying Gulen Islamist Movement, BP, Nasty Monopolies, and Allegedly Mugabe Too .::. Size~: 49.39 KBJun 26 09:00
schestowitzI wrote this last yearJun 26 09:00
gnufreexSo I missed it. Shame on me :)Jun 26 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] O tempora, o mores! Swedish reporters can apparently roam free on Warsaw streets without any oversight now! ;)Jun 26 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ok, first !chakra fails - my long list of #kmail filters was *not* imported to #kmail2; #akonadi totally hogs mem (2GiB, really?!) !kdeJun 26 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] can I get my lean mean mailin' machine that was #kmail 1.x back, please? this one is slow as hell, and uncontrollable.Jun 26 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] how can I control my net usage (e.g. on a mobile conn.) when "work offline" in #kmail2 does *not* stop #akonadi from checking my mail? !kdeJun 26 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Quantifiable Self - http://bit.ly/mHwxwd fascinating stuff, as ever, from Kevin Kelly #dataJun 26 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #LulzSec Shuts Down, Ends Hacking Campaign - http://on.mash.to/kDvQLh really? seems unlikely #securityJun 26 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vaizey to hear new media on digital copyright, web blocking - http://bit.ly/kLYzBb great news - well done @JamesFirth #ukJun 26 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Promotor de Ogg Contraataca Contra el Cartel de MPEG-LA http://ur1.ca/4jdn3 EN: http://ur1.ca/4hd7h #ogg #swpats #ftcJun 26 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Grrr morning identigers!Jun 26 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Global War on the Spratly Reef - http://bit.ly/iCr80y couldn't we just leave it to the fish? #oil #chinaJun 26 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Can Icann really be necessary? - http://bit.ly/mvpaT9 from last week, but expresses my views perfectly: dump #ICANN nowJun 26 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: El sueño de una Real Reforma de Patentes http://ur1.ca/4jdoi EN: http://ur1.ca/4hcrj #reform #patent #usptoJun 26 09:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #LulzSec Shuts Down, Ends Hacking Campaign - http://on.mash.to/kDvQLh really? seems unlikely #securityJun 26 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Any technology distinguishable from magic is by definition insufficiently advanced" - !q #qotdJun 26 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A Plea to the !KDE Developers: ur1.ca/4jdoz - this was written over 1.5 year ago... and is still valid. what the hell, KDE...Jun 26 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: El Establecimiento de la Agenda por Microsoft http://ur1.ca/4jdp5 EN: http://ur1.ca/4i1ci #lobbying #microsoftJun 26 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Los Grupos de Presión Contra GNU/Linux Cada Vez Más Utilizan las Patentes Como Armas http://ur1.ca/4jdrd EN: http://ur1.ca/4hduu #swpatsJun 26 09:52
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schestowitzI've justa dded 4 Spanish articles http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Espa%C3%B1ol it's worth checking that they are all there without broken PDFs or missing links (and that none were lost by mail). Florian mentioned the Spanish translation as perhapa he doesn't like to be exposed in Spain, where he used to lobby for Real Madrid.Jun 26 09:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sjvn/status/84673503466496000Jun 26 09:55
TechrightsBot-tr@sjvn: @swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz I've said Linux is great many more times. I call them like I see 'em. Usually, but not always, Linux wins.Jun 26 09:55
schestowitzlet's see his next headlineJun 26 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] That sneaky MacDonalds [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/ATwcf.jpgJun 26 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In-Library #eBook Lending Program Expands to 1,000 Libraries - http://bit.ly/kJW0Qk I can't help feeling they're doin' it wrong...Jun 26 09:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Inbox [1]Jun 26 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @zach I Spent A Coin (And I Liked It) — How I Bought Lunch in Manhattan with Bitcoins http://starburst.hackerfriendly.com/?p=1530 !bcJun 26 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] holy cow, X server eating up 60-90% CPU with effects *off*?.. this is not a good week for me and !linux, apparently. !chakraJun 26 10:19
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DaemonFCwhat is hatstacks?Jun 26 10:19
DaemonFCwhy is it offering crappy software like Skype?Jun 26 10:20
DaemonFCand OOoJun 26 10:20
DaemonFCand stuff Fedora already has like Firefox 4Jun 26 10:20
DaemonFC:)Jun 26 10:20
schestowitzyeahJun 26 10:20
schestowitzDaemonFC: I gave up on tripleheadJun 26 10:21
schestowitzwon't even work well in KDEJun 26 10:21
schestowitz[05:59] <DaemonFC> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7nVFe8kkg4&playnext=1&list=PLAD9C08EF65E7254FJun 26 10:21
DaemonFCschestowitz, According to Phoronix open source RadeonHD 6000 series support is stuffed, 3d anywayJun 26 10:21
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schestowitzinteresting trackJun 26 10:21
DaemonFCbut I take him with a pinch of saltJun 26 10:21
DaemonFChe's said my card doesn't do things it does or doesn't render certain games as quickly as it doesJun 26 10:22
DaemonFCmy personal experience tends to be way off from whatever they have to sayJun 26 10:22
DaemonFCschestowitz, There was a techno mix of that too somewhereJun 26 10:22
DaemonFCbeen trying to find itJun 26 10:22
DaemonFCno more, no more, nnnn no more, WIRE HANGERS!!!Jun 26 10:23
DaemonFCheheJun 26 10:23
DaemonFCschestowitz, I finally watched that movie yesterday and did find myself laughing at it in partsJun 26 10:23
DaemonFCthe part where she was tearing up her rose garden and told her daughter to get the ax was just too muchJun 26 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] With BTC at ~ US $15, might just buy a couple.Jun 26 10:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] TwinGo updated to 2.8.6 in Extra-Devel #Maemo #N900 #TwimGoJun 26 10:26
DaemonFCschestowitz, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSGXe-x-E9gJun 26 10:27
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYcxXsFQscA&feature=relatedJun 26 10:28
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DaemonFCschestowitz, http://www.veoh.com/watch/v19113531C65ex4EMJun 26 10:31
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DaemonFCI think this was itJun 26 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] why the heck is strigi/nopomuk re-indexing all the files in /home after each logout-login cycle? !kdeJun 26 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Fedora 15 #KDE review http://ur1.ca/4je09 14 was very good, I used itJun 26 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !KDE Ships First 4.7 Release Candidate http://ur1.ca/4je0u KDE Ships First 4.7 Release Candidate http://ur1.ca/4je0xJun 26 10:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] great... started #kmail2 about a minute ago. still unresponsive. that's improvement for you! !kdeJun 26 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mac experience http://ur1.ca/4j7cq "So in my personal opinion, it is pointless comparing a Mac experience to a Linux Desktop one."Jun 26 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @Techcrunch Skype's Worthless Employee Stock Option Plan: Here's Why They Did It http://tcrn.ch/lM0Oyr by @arringtonJun 26 10:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] You just know that governments will claim a "victory" over Lulzsec whatever the truth of the disbanding was.Jun 26 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Ready to rip it out of another worthless !bbcclick episode, but hey this is the !bbc after all. A guilty sunday pleasure, laugh at click.Jun 26 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] "This is BBC Click and today we are going to talk about.......yet another insidious social networking service" !bbcclick !fail !bbcJun 26 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] In•de•pen•dent: (adj.) Not having sold one's life, career, and creative works over to a corporation.Jun 26 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 52 – 25/06/11 – “Desktop Environments and the Demise of Ubuntu?” http://is.gd/nM0T6Z !techbytesJun 26 10:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: Sabayon 6 !KDE http://ur1.ca/4je47 "Sabayon 6 KDE seemed faster and more stable than Sabayon 5.5 KDE"Jun 26 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FUD Flows Freely Against FLOSS http://ur1.ca/4je5a "Gartner is way off on that. The Android tablets released lately are spectacular"Jun 26 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Old: Who Owns Gartner? http://ur1.ca/4je5b "Michael Dell, Larry Ellison, and Bill Gates. "Jun 26 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Meant to say, I selected my two "compensation" games on the PSN. Infamous and Wipeout HD. !sony is trying hard to make amends. !psn !ps3Jun 26 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 @NaomiKlein's Disaster Capitalism playing out everywhere. Rob Ford hired to put #Toronto in financial crisis. http://t.co/FlUp15TJun 26 11:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Michael Bay 'insulted by Transformers critics' http://is.gd/6l7osq --- Who cares? I thought the whole !Transformers thing was rubbish.Jun 26 11:06
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schestowitzHi, _GoblinJun 26 11:06
_Goblin:)Jun 26 11:06
schestowitzGot the show notes up? I can post a link to that now that people wake upJun 26 11:06
_GoblinyepJun 26 11:06
schestowitztaJun 26 11:06
_Goblinand Ive dented themJun 26 11:06
schestowitzNow that we have many tracks it takes ages to encodeJun 26 11:06
_Goblinsee? I'm organized this morning!Jun 26 11:06
schestowitzI don't know how the mixing algo works, but the more tracks there are, the longer it takes. I found a trick to reduce how many tracks I need to edit withJun 26 11:07
_Goblinhttp://is.gd/nM0T6ZJun 26 11:07
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schestowitz_Goblin: taJun 26 11:07
_GoblinI added the ? because I disputed the validity of Distrowatch stats as an indicator of decline.... ;)Jun 26 11:08
schestowitzYeah..Jun 26 11:10
schestowitzBut it fails in other aspectsJun 26 11:10
schestowitzmindhsare-wiseJun 26 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 52: Desktop Environments and the Demise of Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/4je6p the notes for the show: http://ur1.ca/4je6qJun 26 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 52: Desktop Environments and the Demise of Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/4je6p the notes for the show: http://ur1.ca/4je6qJun 26 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[techbytes/@techbytes] TechBytes Episode 52: Desktop Environments and the Demise of Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/4je6p the notes for the show: http://ur1.ca/4je6qJun 26 11:11
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schestowitzHeh.. http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/roy-schestowitz-help-203874012.htmlJun 26 11:11
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MinceRlol @ "s/h/it"Jun 26 11:13
schestowitzLOL http://i.imgur.com/Mj7ju.jpgJun 26 11:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] awesome. #akonadi imported emails but now doesn't allow #kmail2 to access them, apparently. I can see folders' contents but not msg bodiesJun 26 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What does "friends" in Facebook actually mean these days? http://imgur.com/oDHWqJun 26 11:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh look. here be OOM Kills in dmesg. on my 4GiB system. way to go, #mysql, #akonadi and #kmail2 !kde !chakra -_-'Jun 26 11:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BenPark/status/84930133651230720Jun 26 11:28
TechrightsBot-tr@BenPark: Ripping off Mac OS X much? RT @schestowitz: VirtualBSD review - Sneak a peak at #FreeBSD  http://ur1.ca/4j3zw #bsd #unixJun 26 11:28
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schestowitzNothing "rips off" Mac OSuX. Apple admits to be "stealing" other people's idea, which it does.Jun 26 11:29
DaemonFCOS X has a lot of FreeBSD code in it that they either don't contribute to or release under the terms of one of their own licensesJun 26 11:30
MinceRlol @ the thought of OSuX "ripping off" FreeBSDJun 26 11:30
MinceRhe got the idea the wrong way aroundJun 26 11:30
DaemonFCso once something is taken and released under a new license, FreeBSD has to figure out if they can even legally include itJun 26 11:30
DaemonFCand then there's the fun of having yet another license in the mixJun 26 11:31
DaemonFCit's really the same problem as when BSD code is released under the GPL, they complain loudly about thatJun 26 11:31
DaemonFCbut not when it's under an Apple license that isn't compatible with the FreeBSD licenseJun 26 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Lol the N9 is actually Maemo6? I didn't realize that Harmatten was the Maemo6 codename. I'm lollin'Jun 26 11:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BenPark/status/84931834655412225Jun 26 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr@BenPark: @schestowitz But either way - they have made it look EXACTLY like a Mac.Jun 26 11:38
schestowitzYou mean, the BSD code with some Apple artwork on top?Jun 26 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Technical preview of Mageia ARM port http://ur1.ca/4jeba exciting direction from !MageiaJun 26 11:39
schestowitz[11:30] <MinceR> he got the idea the wrong way aroundJun 26 11:39
schestowitzyeahJun 26 11:39
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MinceRhm... which part of that "artwork" comes from crApple?Jun 26 11:41
schestowitzbrushed metalJun 26 11:41
schestowitzaquaJun 26 11:41
schestowitzNo?Jun 26 11:41
schestowitzThey probably took that tooJun 26 11:42
schestowitzI ha brushed metal in Linux in 2002Jun 26 11:42
schestowitzAround the same timeJun 26 11:42
DaemonFCApple lost the look and feel lawsuit when they sued Microsoft back in the 90sJun 26 11:42
DaemonFCI don't see how they could resurrect that oneJun 26 11:42
schestowitzApple? Feel?Jun 26 11:42
schestowitzLOLJun 26 11:42
*schestowitz melaughtsJun 26 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Elop poured gasoline http://ur1.ca/4iv6x they're not even trying, do they? The mole needs to 'prove' #meego had problems.Jun 26 11:42
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schestowitzDaemonFC: Gonad lost the looks and he feel when he sued Momma FarmerJun 26 11:43
schestowitzMaybe he too will end up with his family (in jail), if you find the right materialJun 26 11:43
DaemonFCApple sued Microsoft on the grounds that Windows 95 looked too much like Mac OSJun 26 11:44
DaemonFCthe case got thrown out of court and set the precedent that the overall similar look and feel of a GUI doesn't qualify as a trademarkJun 26 11:45
DaemonFCunless someone is actually using artwork that Apple has specific trademarks on, then they can look as similar to it as they wantJun 26 11:46
DaemonFCschestowitz, A family reunion?Jun 26 11:46
DaemonFCNo, they'd have to all be in the same state prison for thatJun 26 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ♺ @schestowitz: Technical preview of Mageia ARM port http://ur1.ca/4jeba exciting direction from !MageiaJun 26 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ♺ @carldrud: ♻ @gabrielsaldana Facebook app permissions: When u read them carefully they're kinda scary !android #fb http://ur1.ca/4jc50Jun 26 11:46
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DaemonFCand some are in prisons for drug dealersJun 26 11:46
DaemonFCand some are in sex offender prisonJun 26 11:46
DaemonFCand some are in a general prison population for violent crime or theftJun 26 11:46
DaemonFCif they could just break the same kinds of laws, they may spend a Christmas togetherJun 26 11:47
DaemonFChe's the only one of them that doesn't have a felony on his recordJun 26 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Thats enough.... 10 minutes of !bbcclick is all I could manage today..... I'm trying to slowly build up my tolerance.Jun 26 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So enough with Click and off to do something more interesting.....polishing the TV screen. !bbc !bbcclickJun 26 11:49
DaemonFCand that's only because the court had it expungedJun 26 11:49
DaemonFChe stole a truckload of tires when he was 17Jun 26 11:50
DaemonFCand the judge told him he could go to prison or the armyJun 26 11:50
DaemonFCso he enlistedJun 26 11:50
DaemonFCand eventually became a staff sergeantJun 26 11:50
schestowitzScooter is still performing a 10 year old songJun 26 11:50
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZq-cQ7sSLQ&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AVGxdCwVVULXdbAV1eFcrXlriRwOzVfz9UJun 26 11:50
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DaemonFCpeople who aren't real smart and have an urge to hurt people, sentenced to the armyJun 26 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Distro Review: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal http://ur1.ca/4jecz fairly OKJun 26 11:51
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DaemonFCwhat a conceptJun 26 11:51
DaemonFCthere they can do what they love and be trained on better ways to do itJun 26 11:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BenPark/status/84934347303563265Jun 26 11:52
TechrightsBot-tr@BenPark: @schestowitz Yeah. Seems a bit counterintuitive to me. If you like don't like what Apple have done with it, don't make it look like Apple'sJun 26 11:52
DaemonFCschestowitz, The funny thing is that if you enlist as part of a plea agreement, that's ok, but if you already have a felony they won't let you enlistJun 26 11:52
schestowitzThe point is, Apple 'rips off' BSD, not the other way around. Apple also rips off some GPL-based/family software.Jun 26 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @openbytes Thats enough.... 10 minutes of !bbcclick is all I could manage today..... I'm trying to slowly build up my tolerance.Jun 26 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSBBC Clique. Nuff said.Jun 26 11:52
schestowitz[11:51] <DaemonFC> people who aren't real smart and have an urge to hurt people, sentenced to the army\Jun 26 11:53
schestowitzHere they have army "Careers" thingJun 26 11:53
schestowitzI passed by one yesterday afternoonJun 26 11:53
DaemonFCyeah here tooJun 26 11:53
schestowitz"got no job? Join  us, kill people"Jun 26 11:53
DaemonFCthey recruit high school kids who don't know what they're doingJun 26 11:53
schestowitzThere's always market demand for killing peopleJun 26 11:53
DaemonFCand end up shipped back home in a body bagJun 26 11:53
schestowitzRight now in LibyaJun 26 11:53
schestowitzI was told by a friend yesterday that Libya was targetted because it was working towards making a middle eastern currency that would crash the dollarJun 26 11:54
schestowitzThat's one theory anywayJun 26 11:54
DaemonFCis there any evidence of that?Jun 26 11:54
schestowitzAnd today in the radio I got some propagandaJun 26 11:54
DaemonFCor is it a conspiracy theory?Jun 26 11:54
schestowitzWhile waking upJun 26 11:54
schestowitzThey try to demorise themJun 26 11:55
schestowitz*RaliseJun 26 11:55
schestowitz[11:54] <DaemonFC> or is it a conspiracy theory?Jun 26 11:55
schestowitzDon't know..Jun 26 11:55
schestowitzThis friend read some untrustworthy sitesJun 26 11:55
DaemonFCthere's a lot of thoseJun 26 11:55
schestowitzBut he said I'm one of just 2 people whose advice he respects and valuesJun 26 11:55
schestowitz:-)Jun 26 11:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: some of those sites try to drive up price of goldJun 26 11:56
schestowitzI told him that yesterdayJun 26 11:56
schestowitzThey pay bloggers and youtubersJun 26 11:56
DaemonFCright, the sovereign citizen nonsenseJun 26 11:56
schestowitzCreating panic to have people increase the worth of their investmentJun 26 11:56
DaemonFCthose people are always funnyJun 26 11:56
schestowitzAnd this friend bought a lot of silverJun 26 11:56
schestowitzprobably because of k00ky sitesJun 26 11:56
DaemonFCsome of them get pulled over with license plates from non-existent states they made upJun 26 11:57
DaemonFCand insist they have no need for a driver's licenseJun 26 11:57
schestowitz!google alex jones drivers license youtubeJun 26 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - YouTube - Alex Jones arrested for refusing to thumbscan | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DptsbCwcbrfcJun 26 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - YouTube - Alex Jones protests thumb scan requirement for driver's ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D_ytD29KNThwJun 26 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - Alex Jones Arrested For Refusing To Thumbscan For ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DPPpoKv4gqBYJun 26 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - YouTube - Alex Jones arrested for refusing to thumbscan | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dbc5x3lFxpUcJun 26 11:57
schestowitzJust provoking themJun 26 11:57
schestowitzAlong with his flockJun 26 11:57
schestowitzBut...Jun 26 11:57
schestowitzTHIS IS TEXASJun 26 11:57
schestowitzSparta of the 21st centuryJun 26 11:57
schestowitzIn the country of Texas... me no need no driver's lisansJun 26 11:58
schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTYwMAJun 26 11:59
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DaemonFCschestowitz, They never fingerprinted me over my driver's license Jun 26 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wine 1.3.23 Released http://ur1.ca/4jef0 Running Windows Applications Without Windows Just Got Easier...Jun 26 12:02
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/77304572Jun 26 12:03
schestowitzLOLJun 26 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr@Goblin (openbytes)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jun-11 10:53:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Its like the pantomime bad guy of the tech world I just love to boo.Jun 26 12:03
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/UiIQx.jpgJun 26 12:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] No hunger strike? [IMG] http://imgur.com/pmyAaJun 26 12:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @crosbie: RD @nj3ma In•de•pen•dent: (adj.) Not havingsold one's life, career, and creative works over to a corporation.Jun 26 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] *Yawn*Jun 26 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma inbox!Jun 26 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We want our supporters to grow into a strong network. Please use #wlsup and tweet your rough location. Contact each other.Jun 26 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Again and again I show how incompetant I am at rpmfusion maintainership. I really need to get my shit together.Jun 26 12:21
DaemonFChttp://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2002/winter/beyond-redemptionJun 26 12:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Is Not Losing Popularity http://ur1.ca/4jejdJun 26 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Please use #wljul for organization related to the July 12 extradition hearing.Jun 26 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Responsive web design > http://nd.gd/qu, http://nd.gd/qv Wish most /ke web designers would think like thisJun 26 12:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Please use #freebrad for Bradley Manning actions http://t.co/8nTJwWtJun 26 12:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Cleaning up the mess...Jun 26 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US refuses to take action on Bradley Manning abuse complaint or provide details of investigation http://t.co/2LZRLhdJun 26 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Watching #Yogscast from the beginning on the Xoom while I clean the flat.Jun 26 12:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In a first, a Nook beats the Kindle in our e-book reader Ratings http://ur1.ca/4jemi #linux #android versus Microsoft-taxed #linux (Amazon)Jun 26 12:42
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BenPark/status/84950405989154816Jun 26 13:02
TechrightsBot-tr@BenPark: @schestowitz But then BSD isn't suitable for most users. So if Apple make it more user-friendly, good.Jun 26 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] if you are interested in #FUDCon in #APAC, please let us know which bid you prefer; #India or #China. Post on the !Fedora #Ambassador list!Jun 26 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] I wonder: Are complaints about the signal to noise ratio in any given forum signal or noise?Jun 26 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @nileshgr: There is something special about #choqok that makes me come back to it again and again. :)Jun 26 13:29
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I may be changing ISPs soonJun 26 13:53
DaemonFCmine is one the MAFIAA is making a deal with to fuck customers over and censor the webJun 26 13:53
DaemonFCso if implemented I'll just use this as an excuse to exit stage left and go to fiberJun 26 13:54
DaemonFCwhich I should already be doing but I hate switching ISPsJun 26 13:54
DaemonFCvery disruptive and it gives the one you cancel and the one you sign up with opportunities to fuck things upJun 26 13:54
DaemonFCbut I'm not going to tolerate something like thisJun 26 13:54
DaemonFCI figure the ISPs want to join in mostly because they hate users that actually use their allotted bandwidth and this gives them an excuse to mess your connection upJun 26 13:57
DaemonFCand the MAFIAA is buying off politicians to make sure the FCC can't stop them this timeJun 26 13:57
iophkThat's because the ISPs have been overselling bandwidth, making contracts that they cannot fulfill.Jun 26 13:58
DaemonFCiophk, Yes, it's in the fine print of every ISP agreement out there that the plan they sell you and the speed you'll actually get are two different thingsJun 26 14:00
DaemonFCbut it's more the case with cable companiesJun 26 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK. Now to finish releasing this LO episode.....Jun 26 14:01
DaemonFCbecause their subscribers share a bandwidth pool, so they have another point in the infrastructure that they can oversellJun 26 14:01
DaemonFCand they prioritize higher paying customers like businessesJun 26 14:01
DaemonFCswitching over to ADSL the plan you pay for and the speed you get match up a lot more closelyJun 26 14:02
DaemonFCcable companies tend to do all kinds of nasty thingsJun 26 14:02
DaemonFCtell you you're getting 12 Mbps and you're really only getting 4-6 depending on the time of day, or you start out with more but then it throttles you backJun 26 14:03
DaemonFCComcast advertises their throttling as a featureJun 26 14:03
DaemonFC"Powerboost"Jun 26 14:03
DaemonFCit lets them puff up their numbers for marketing and then sell you a slow shitty linJun 26 14:04
DaemonFC*lineJun 26 14:04
DaemonFCan interesting unintended side effect of this new policy might be to shift people pirating MAFIAA stuff away to downloading and supporting independent artists who have a free or pay what you want modelJun 26 14:06
DaemonFCor an all you can download subscription like Magnatune Jun 26 14:06
DaemonFCeven if they manage to stop people from pirating their stuff that doesn't translate into salesJun 26 14:07
DaemonFCpeople may still not feel that the value is there given the price fixing of the industry  Jun 26 14:07
DaemonFCactually, industry is the wrong word for RIAA/MPAA typesJun 26 14:08
DaemonFCthey're mostly just lawyers and loan sharksJun 26 14:08
DaemonFCthey sign bands with "incentives" that quickly disappear after they get goingJun 26 14:09
DaemonFClike they'll lend them money to get started (with interest) then charge them thousands of dollars for studio time or this and that until the band is nearly working for free anywayJun 26 14:10
DaemonFCif they can't schedule live concerts or make merchandising deals they go under and stop making new material eventuallyJun 26 14:10
DaemonFCso a lot of the more well known artists are spinning off and giving away entire albums away as free downloads and still make more money than they did with the RIAAJun 26 14:11
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DaemonFCthe RIAA is a cartel that is a net loss for promoting new artJun 26 14:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Red Flag Act of 1865 - http://bit.ly/j7GoiD offers striking parallels with today's #copyright enforcement legislationJun 26 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Another LO mastered.Jun 26 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/petrovich.html silly and funny at the same timeJun 26 14:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anti-Flotilla video fraud linked to PM Netanyahu’s office, official Israeli hasbara agents - http://bit.ly/iARNAg fascinating (v @techsoc)Jun 26 14:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yay! @th3k4ty is back home. Coffee and Jaffa Cakes for everyone! :DJun 26 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: Great Unity discussion with folks via my blog comments. See http://is.gd/LXZ8pbJun 26 14:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jaffa Cakes FTWJun 26 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what then is an empty desk?" - Albert EinsteinJun 26 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Japanese poetry & book http://t.co/K1kuFBUJun 26 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @olivierjeulin @samatjain: GNOME developer quote of the day: "not designing a desktop for people" http://ur1.ca/4jbqq #LinuxJun 26 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A spiteful, vindictive agenda is poisoning our national debate http://is.gd/CCWtY9Jun 26 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Good spot @samatjain - never noticed that refrain, but it does seem to be there; not very encouragingJun 26 15:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] When evidence is powerless http://is.gd/kpULc4 #religionJun 26 15:19
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iophk"For some, scientific evidence has no role in the way they envision the world" that explains a lot, including M$ apologistsJun 26 15:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Notch's Instant Forest (tm) - Just Add BonemealJun 26 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mozilla == Osborne? - http://bit.ly/lCz5X2 interesting comparison; let's hope not... #firefox #mozillaJun 26 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] First big WikiLeaks play; refuses to donate to WikiLeaks. Good, bad, or just more misinformation? http://t.co/3BYcMf0Jun 26 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hack-A-Vision seems to cover novice friendly !Linux security http://ur1.ca/4jfkb Have to read more to judge it properlyJun 26 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @_tomash: We have a winner ur1.ca/4jfkq - "Door to Door Atheists Bother Mormons"Jun 26 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] NFC Tree Farm #2 http://ur1.ca/4jfksJun 26 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] NFC Tree Farm #3 http://ur1.ca/4jfkuJun 26 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] NFC Tree Farm #1 http://ur1.ca/4jfktJun 26 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Miners Nuclear Fried Chicken HQ Tree Farm: http://sixgun.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60244Jun 26 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] checking if removing stale #akonadi setup solves my akonadi and #kmail2 issues. fingers crossed.Jun 26 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Senior #Tory Christopher Shale found dead at #Glastonbury festival http://is.gd/Au05rZ 1st #U2 now Senior Tories? Glasto gone upmarket? :(Jun 26 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what's next for #Glastonbury? #PrinceCharles introducing #CliffRichard? #Coldplay with special guest #PrinceWilliam for the national anthem?Jun 26 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's come a long way from the "humble rock festival" roots, but then that always happens as more money floods in from major corpsJun 26 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #LulzSec Used !Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/4jfnp Screenshot of Firefox running under what looks to be Ubuntu 10.10 /by Joey Sneddon on @omgubuntuJun 26 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So #Lulzsec have gone? http://ur1.ca/4jfnp - I went off line for 12 hrs and they've gone :)Jun 26 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] guys, how does #kmail2 know whether or not to migrate kmail's messages? deleted all */kmail2* folders and files, still doesn't run it. !kdeJun 26 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] New blog post: An oversimplified summary http://serkokatsikian.net/?p=485Jun 26 16:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lubuntu/@lubuntu] Lubuntu Screencast: LXPanel 2 panel layout http://tinyurl.com/3laqeymJun 26 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] [new blog post] An oversimplified summary of my life the universe and everything (for the last few years) http://goo.gl/QfOIaJun 26 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Underreported: What the WikiLeaks Cables Reveal about Haiti | http://t.co/HexOhipJun 26 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NY Times: “Paper of record” no more? - http://bit.ly/l75FCy good point; also betrays NYT's technical cluelessness #newspapersJun 26 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning !identiverseJun 26 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Making myself some homemade burgers now. :)Jun 26 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !GNOME Tweak Tool 3.0.5 Lets You Install GNOME Shell Extensions http://goo.gl/1jZAiJun 26 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I am struggling with a dilemma... Yesterday I did not get my ePUB problems sorted out ... so the question is should i take a day off ...Jun 26 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: 3G Dongle on ARCHOS G9 tablets could be a game changer [Opinion] http://goo.gl/gu8m6Jun 26 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Should I be a grasshopper and go into town and enjoy the last day of the multicultural festival,or stay home and work like and ant? !SelfPubJun 26 16:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Androinica: Facebook for !Android adds video uploading and Pages viewing http://goo.gl/bonnbJun 26 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haris !shared And you STILL don't think Malaysia is a fascist state? http://b1t.it/olGJun 26 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marjoleink trying to decipher who the artists of my Yemeni CDs are, I'm teaching myself to read Arabic letters :) - well, sort of, b ...Jun 26 16:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Tell #Congress: Investigate #ClarenceThomas! http://ur1.ca/4jfx9 @CREDOMobile @ChrisMurphyCT #SCOTUS #SupremeCourtJun 26 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Killed a pig, got the meat, crafting the burgers on the furnace now. :D #MinecraftJun 26 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] coffee, do your thingJun 26 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jezra: coffee, do your thingJun 26 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Watching that Women Football thingy....Jun 26 17:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Drives Away Developers http://ur1.ca/4jfzj #mono #dotnet #development #xaml #silverlight #apiJun 26 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Drives Away Developers http://ur1.ca/4jfzj #msft #lockin #windows #windows8 #developmentJun 26 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ha! 1:0 GER CAN #womenfootballJun 26 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] That was Schweinsteiger niveau, that goal. :)Jun 26 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #XKCD #Windows #Malware #Viruses http://ur1.ca/4jfzxJun 26 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man. These chicks play tough. With men, that would've been a penalty... OoJun 26 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ye Gods, I sense another #Labour #PR rebranding exercise from New Labour to True Labour, while nothing changes under the hood #salespitchJun 26 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Secret memorandum reveals UK's involvement in rendition - http://bit.ly/jrqkaw shameful: who can we arrest for this? (v @asteris) #tortureJun 26 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Netzer and the Kaiser in da house!Jun 26 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Canadian #13 is hot. :DJun 26 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Techrights Was Right About Mono Being Open Core, Now Miguel de Icaza Admits It http://ur1.ca/4jg1f #mono #dotnet #swpatsJun 26 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] !Techrights Was Right About Mono Being Open Core, Now Miguel de Icaza Admits It http://ur1.ca/4jg1f #gnu #linux #android #opencoreJun 26 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @nuclearsandwich I have a new plan. Let's all pay the Swiss to run every transit system worldwide. They'd fucking own it.Jun 26 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz: #Techrights Was Right About Mono Being Open Core, Now Miguel de Icaza Admits It http://ur1.ca/4jg1fJun 26 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Ottawa to contract out spying, but who cares? It's only the #Internet" Excellent piece on !privacy by @TabathaSouthey http://ur1.ca/4jg1zJun 26 17:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow. Looks like our goalie is Legolas. :)Jun 26 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Nice shot from CAN #8 there.Jun 26 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] When Microsoft Enters Linux We See Linux FUD http://ur1.ca/4jg3m #tuxera #fud #Ext4 #btrfs #linuxJun 26 17:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When# Microsoft Enters Linux We See Linux FUD http://ur1.ca/4jg3m #swpats #filesystem #fat #ntfs #patents #deceptionJun 26 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Okay... I'm packing up & heading out for a day of fun (not research) in the park at the KW Multicultural Festival http://ur1.ca/4j7dx :)Jun 26 17:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [Jimmy Wales:] Free Knowledge requires Free Software and Free File Formats http://ur1.ca/4jefh #odf #ogg #wikipediaJun 26 17:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Who loves the #hacktivists? http://is.gd/ZMPpT1Jun 26 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #WWC and homemade burgers. :DJun 26 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ger 2:0 CAN #WWCJun 26 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] more spam from #LinkedInJun 26 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @_tomash: procrastination as muscle memory: ctrl-t hit in browser instead of ctrl-wJun 26 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Patents Depress Progress, Shows James E. Bessen of Boston University http://ur1.ca/4jg5s #swpats #research #innovationJun 26 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Software Patents Depress Progress, Shows James E. Bessen of Boston University http://ur1.ca/4jg5s #academia #monopoly #usptoJun 26 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Germany leading 2:0 after the first half, nice. :) #WWCJun 26 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there should be a parody sketch about a "speculative invoicing" legal firm called Sue Yu & Lovett #p2p #extortionJun 26 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110626 #sip_and_clickJun 26 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Tell #Republicans in the #Senate: Stop attacking #Medicare! http://ur1.ca/4jg5qJun 26 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: curl and libcurl 7.21.7 http://curl.haxx.se/ - New release. Great stuff!Jun 26 18:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Nice to see that 6 of the current German team lineup are from my home team FCR Duisburg. :)Jun 26 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] fickin' hell.....an 8yr old girl used as a suicide bomber by the #Taliban - sadly given their disdain for females, it's no surprise :(Jun 26 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Climate of Denial - http://bit.ly/kbNG0K excellent analysis of deep failure of US news media to address #climatechange denial (v @BoraZ)Jun 26 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "3. Platz ist nur was für Männer" ROFL :D #WWCJun 26 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I really like Schmidt from the Candian team. Name sounds familiar, too. :DJun 26 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Go girls! #WWCJun 26 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yay! Popp coming on! :DJun 26 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Are our jerseys lettered in Comic Sans? Oo #WWCJun 26 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] All of the alpha Tor Browser Bundles have been updated to Tor 0.2.2.29-beta: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-tor-browser-bundles-2Jun 26 18:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @reality: Dear God does the StatusNet 1.0 theme look hotJun 26 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] The next set of alpha bundles will come with Firefox 5. For users who want to use Firefox 5 now, Torbutton 1.3.3-alpha is compatible.Jun 26 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Killer shot from Popp. #WWCJun 26 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Damn it! Nearly 3:0.Jun 26 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Looks like I'm live-denting the Women's World Cup. You can filter #WWC. It's all @th3k4ty's fault. :DJun 26 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Canadian #2 is beautiful. OoJun 26 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] GER 2:1 CAN. Nice penalty shot. #WWCJun 26 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Well done by Sinclair. #WWCJun 26 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] It's over! GER 2:1 CAN. #WWCJun 26 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hey, look.... It's over 30°C and all the Brits are whinging. :DJun 26 19:07
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schestowitz"ShapeGoogle: geometric words and expressions for invariant shape retrieval", Dipartimento di Informatica, University of Verona, Italy, 2009Jun 26 19:14
schestowitzinterstingJun 26 19:14
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schestowitzalso a misuse of the trademark GoogleJun 26 19:14
schestowitzbasiclaly an isometry-preserving id for types of imagesJun 26 19:14
schestowitzBut it would only work for 3-D sets with z axisJun 26 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Chinese minister was caught in a 'honeytrap' http://t.co/qZtnCyPJun 26 19:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Israel accused of trying to intimidate Gaza flotilla journalists - http://bit.ly/lbls64 not worried about objective reporting, or anything..Jun 26 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Drivers to be told about 'cash cow' traffic cameras - http://tgr.ph/kySJS7 an outbreak of openness and good sense #ukJun 26 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] First evidence that birds tweet using grammar - http://bit.ly/m3Qb9t exciting: time for a little less human arrogance, maybe... #linguisticsJun 26 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week: Mansfield Place - http://bit.ly/m4cTT9 I *do* like an evocative leafy lane in summer #london #pixJun 26 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Thanks to @corenominal for always flattr'ing !LO. You rock, dude! :) https://flattr.com/profile/corenominalJun 26 19:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Speed Camera #Lottery - The Fun Theory - http://bit.ly/lUMTo6 of course: #Borges had it right all along (v @MrHulaHoop2_0) #babylonJun 26 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @sixgun: Just released: Linux Outlaws 214 - Das Router http://linuxoutlaws.com/podcast/214 -- in memory of the #BigManJun 26 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cartoon: May the Source Be With You - http://rww.to/j8ZdYx nearly true: the $1 genome not quite with us, but won't be long... #dnaJun 26 19:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Phew. Happy to have that LO out. Taking a break now....Jun 26 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] UK is unprepared for Cybercrime – A look at “Digital Britain” and a prediction for its future. http://is.gd/ajxGEW !piracy !tpb !debJun 26 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] okay, !kde #akonadi and #kmail2 seem responsive after some config cleanups (as in: rm -rf ... ;) ), but do they *really* need to download myJun 26 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] whole IMAP e-mail history (~20k msgs), instead of just damn taking those from old kmail folders? what the hell "migration" does, then? !kdeJun 26 20:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why do screen wipes smell so weird? What the hell's in them?Jun 26 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm installing Cygwin for the first time; hope I can understand it/get on with itJun 26 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @PeteRadioDotCom: Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel [John Quinton]Jun 26 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @omgubuntu: Red hat posts bumper financial figures, touts linux popularity - http://awe.sm/5NeYXJun 26 20:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @methoddan: Finishing off prep 4 live !RatholeRadio in 30mins http://bit.ly/mrOBc8 I'll B able 2 listen live 2nite - look forward 2 itJun 26 20:36
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schestowitzHello there..Jun 26 20:41
schestowitzQuiet weekend in the news, eh?Jun 26 20:41
schestowitzI found almost nothing, not even FUDJun 26 20:41
schestowitzMore time for COLA thenJun 26 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch with 164 dents!Jun 26 20:42
_GoblinComedy of the day:Jun 26 20:44
_GoblinSaid by a Microsoft Advocate in COLA:Jun 26 20:44
_GoblinI guess most of them dont go online since it became clear that Android is a virus magnet. Jun 26 20:44
MinceRlolJun 26 20:44
_GoblinYou have to give a MS advocate credit.....Jun 26 20:44
_Goblinit takes a thick skin (and head) to say something like that.Jun 26 20:45
MinceRgeekingsJun 26 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Whoever bought this domain name is a saint http://bit.ly/jBHVBg by Matt on RedditJun 26 20:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Squirrels on the lawn. Dogs are going nuts. They want outside so that they cant chase the evil squirrels away. Silly dogs. #dogsJun 26 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Finished reading #LawyersinHell - great book. Too bad they wouldn't let me send certain lawyers I know there.Jun 26 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Gay Girl in Damascus hoaxer accused of defending himself with new persona http://is.gd/tX114WJun 26 20:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean dogs are conservative by nature, they don't like others on their turf seemingly playing with their nuts ;PJun 26 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Digital first: what it means for #journalism http://is.gd/Mbuj0hJun 26 21:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Technology is a great tool – but it is people that will change #politics http://is.gd/qzGceUJun 26 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.39.2-libre-lemote, 2.6.33.15-libre1-lemote and 2.6.32.42-libre2-lemote binary debs for !gnewsense !yeeloong now availableJun 26 21:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @_tomash: The more I see people talking about agile, scrum, xp, lean, whatever, the more I belive in the http://t.co/VTDHB2o manifestoJun 26 21:16
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/statuses/85056107260821506Jun 26 21:17
TechrightsBot-tr@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz is it OK if we repost your stuff on our FB page? We need to intensify fight against patents and FUD.Jun 26 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The secret scandal of Britain's caste system http://is.gd/yGvAB9Jun 26 21:17
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schestowitz_Goblin: they gave uJun 26 21:17
schestowitz*upJun 26 21:18
schestowitzIn Google Groups they're all ad hominem trollsJun 26 21:18
_GoblinYeah....I saw that...Jun 26 21:18
_Goblinthe ultimate admition of defeat "Im not listening to you wahhh"Jun 26 21:18
_Goblinquestion is....why bother posting that at all?Jun 26 21:18
_GoblinI think we all know the answer whyJun 26 21:19
schestowitzI don'tJun 26 21:21
schestowitzBut some of them go for intimdationJun 26 21:21
schestowitzor trying to spoil the forumJun 26 21:21
schestowitzCOLA "is too rude" blah blah... therefore it's all bunkJun 26 21:21
schestowitzThw advocates are actually politeJun 26 21:21
schestowitzSo if you removed the trolls, it would be seen as high-signal forum for adults with knowledgeJun 26 21:22
ThistleWebbecause while they were on holiday they made the mistake of having their palm read, decided she knew what that palm was mostly used for and decided to curse them by telling them they have to keep busy 24/7 as the palm was overused, so to keep posting, and it's easier to focus in on the target of ones dreams to write about that random stuff?Jun 26 21:22
schestowitzThe trolls know how to ruin sites in the same tactics some political, sites get ruinedJun 26 21:22
schestowitzThey get infiltrated to discredit the postersJun 26 21:22
_Goblinschestowitz: I'd suggest they don't know how to ruin sites.  They can't defeat my anti-troll filter, they haven't silenced COLA nor did they silence the forums on Microsoft Watch so many years ago....infact I think MS Watch would still be a meeting place for Linux advocates if Jo hadnt left.Jun 26 21:24
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_GoblinI think we need a new section for TechBytes (or for my own show)....."The Microsoft Advocacy corner" - Some of this material needs highlighting....its great entertainment.Jun 26 21:25
schestowitzI hear about this tactic a lotJun 26 21:27
schestowitzLike some good sites that explain events around the worldJun 26 21:27
schestowitzInfiltrated by 'alien' l00nsJun 26 21:27
schestowitzAnd Seth from Thinking Atheist seeing his fora devolve into a delusional debate, or Daily Kos with pro-Bush zealoutsJun 26 21:28
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schestowitzSo they drown them out of kick them awayJun 26 21:28
schestowitzOr ignore temJun 26 21:28
schestowitz*themJun 26 21:28
schestowitz[21:24] <_Goblin> schestowitz: I'd suggest they don't know how to ruin sites.  They can't defeat my anti-troll filter, they haven't silenced COLA nor did they silence the forums on Microsoft Watch so many years ago....infact I think MS Watch would still be a meeting place for Linux advocates if Jo hadnt left.Jun 26 21:28
schestowitzThere is not much to watch anymoreJun 26 21:28
schestowitzApple and IBM are considered "bigger" nowJun 26 21:28
_Goblinthats very trueJun 26 21:29
schestowitzGoogle Watch there are several of...Jun 26 21:29
_GoblinI was thinking that myself recently.Jun 26 21:29
schestowitzThe older oneJun 26 21:29
schestowitzAnd eWeeks... with that Canadian-looking fella whose name I forgot... Jun 26 21:29
_Goblinthe only thing regarding WP7 was something about animated characters involving 360 integration.Jun 26 21:29
schestowitzMicrosoft news is DRYJun 26 21:29
schestowitzI used to see lots of itJun 26 21:29
schestowitzEven without following Mcrosoft headlinesJun 26 21:29
schestowitzNow it's a tad scarceJun 26 21:30
schestowitzBTW, Ballmer must leave soon based on your forecastJun 26 21:30
schestowitzMSFT fell1.34%‎Jun 26 21:30
schestowitzTime is ripe to give Ballmer the pink chairJun 26 21:30
schestowitz!google skype microsoft exodusJun 26 21:31
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Skype confirms management exodus- The Inquirer | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2080293/skype-confirms-management-exodusJun 26 21:31
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - “Google Exodus” covers Passover with tweets, Skype | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/04/google-exodus-covers-passover.htmlJun 26 21:31
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft gains DoJ anti-trust approval on Skype buy • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/20/microsoft_skype_ftc_approval/Jun 26 21:31
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Exodus continues: Microsoft marketing chief Mich Mathews to leave ... | http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/2011/03/30/exodus-continues-microsoft-marketing-chief-mich-mathews-to-leave/Jun 26 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Plato: One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.Jun 26 21:36
_Goblinschestowitz: re: my prediction...yeah I think im running otu of time on that one...Jun 26 21:39
_Goblinschestowitz: maybe he bought skype with a "Master Plan(TM)" which is known only to him but currency to keep him employed at MS.Jun 26 21:40
ThistleWebhe has the master key that could bring the network down if he was ousted ;PJun 26 21:40
ThistleWebeither that or he had the microsoft nazi themed s&m office party filmed, ready to release in drips to implicate any of his fellow board members, and they know itJun 26 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek AFAIK !Choqok can't show the full conversation due to API limitations (at least for now)Jun 26 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Microsoft Drives Away Developers http://techrights.org/2011/06/26/developers-mess/ !windows !windows7 !wp7 !mvp !microsoft !mvpbuzzJun 26 21:42
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schestowitzThistleWeb: lolJun 26 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ada Initiative fund-raising campaign a success http://lwn.net/Articles/449315/rssJun 26 21:51
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_GoblinOn a serious note I think the Skype deal was obvious....buy out a competitor to a future Microsoft product, then slowly merge the two.  It may be a large initial purchase but saves alot of the work convincing people into using your tech.....Jun 26 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel 2.6.34.10 http://lwn.net/Articles/449318/rssJun 26 21:52
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schestowitzgoogle puts voice in chrome nowJun 26 21:52
schestowitzlast week's newsJun 26 21:52
schestowitzmaybe to Microsoft it was all proactive movesJun 26 21:53
schestowitz!google chrome voiceJun 26 21:53
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Chrome 11 Beta Brings Voice-to-Text Capabilities | http://mashable.com/2011/03/23/chrome-11-beta/Jun 26 21:53
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Google Voice (by Google) - Chrome Web Store | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kcnhkahnjcbndmmehfkdnkjomaanaoooJun 26 21:53
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Chrome Voice Control - Chrome Web Store | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fboiibgbjljogjkebjcfhggbiponmpkkJun 26 21:53
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Google Chrome to Get Native Voice, Video Chat | PCWorld | http://www.pcworld.com/article/230866/google_chrome_to_get_native_voice_video_chat.htmlJun 26 21:53
schestowitzbloody hell, it\s hot todayJun 26 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: RT @brainimpact: Nokia N900 Enhanced Lockscreen 0.2 http://t.co/2ySX9QC via @youtubeJun 26 22:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: New Chat room setup. Come along and Lets talk http://mge.bz/chat :-) #MeeGo #Nokia #N9 #Nokmsft #IRC #Qt #Developer #AppsJun 26 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @andreagrandi Do you want to develop a cool MeeGo app for Nokia N9? Apply at http://is.gd/J2o4iJ you could get a N950 to develop/test it!Jun 26 22:02
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sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz Nice my headset works the microphone, in XP vmJun 26 22:33
sebsebseband head phones obviosulyJun 26 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Argentina's River Plate relegated. World soccer dies.Jun 26 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Effed Windows can't partition shit!Jun 26 22:34
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ThistleWebhas ep52 been released? or was it a false start?Jun 26 22:35
MinceRgnJun 26 22:36
_Goblinsebsebseb: seems a little drastic...Ive had no issues on any linux config with any of the headset/mics Ive had.Jun 26 22:40
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sebsebseb_Goblin: well I haveJun 26 22:40
sebsebsebwon't just work in Ubuntu at allJun 26 22:40
_Goblinstrange....Jun 26 22:40
sebsebseb_Goblin: also its not just, because of this, it's, because of a driving thorey DVD with DRM and so won't work in Wine, that I have done a XP vm againJun 26 22:41
_Goblinoh wellJun 26 22:41
_Goblinah......Jun 26 22:41
sebsebseb_Goblin: anyway I should be able to run Windows Skype in a vm as well, apparently the LInux version is really badJun 26 22:41
_Goblini remember the driving test days......Jun 26 22:41
_Goblinyou don't get a good deal these days...Jun 26 22:41
_Goblinwhen I did it, C1D1 was automaticJun 26 22:41
sebsebsebdon't get a good deal tehse days?Jun 26 22:41
sebsebsebI had lessonss  well in 2007,  hoepfuly I can pick it up again quite nicely the practical should be able to :) when I go back, after passed thoreyJun 26 22:42
_Goblinyou don't get that classification anymore....Jun 26 22:42
_Goblinyou have to sit another examJun 26 22:42
sebsebsebalso it will be more expensive now then before I guess, but well so be itJun 26 22:42
sebsebseband I have the cashJun 26 22:42
_Goblinyeah driving for new drivers is expensive....Jun 26 22:42
ThistleWebthe linux skype client is ok, latest versions are pulse only, it's got a lot less features than the windows one, which is a good thing imhoJun 26 22:42
_Goblinfor a 20 year old ford cortina you will probably pay the same in insurance as ballmer paid for skype.Jun 26 22:42
_Goblinand you'll only get 3rd party for that! ;)Jun 26 22:43
sebsebsebThistleWeb: right and with this headset I would have to configure pulseaudio at least in Ubuntu, but not planning on running Ubuntu for that much longer as a pshyicall install anywayJun 26 22:43
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sebsebsebThistleWeb: well that's why people think it's bad, becasue it lacks featuresJun 26 22:47
ThistleWebI know it doesn't work in crunchbang, becuase it has alsa removed, and crunchbang is alsaJun 26 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Waiting for 147GB of data to be transferred to the external hard disk then embark on installing Linux on Annette.Jun 26 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Cooking up my i7 CPU with #ffmpeg and 8 threads using #libx264 #F15 it is strange how hard it can be to save my kids first stepsJun 26 23:04
sebsebseb_Goblin: ThistleWeb Aesome I can use my speakers with the host, and then record from them into microphone in the vm :DJun 26 23:07
_GoblinWow.....Jun 26 23:08
_Goblinsounds like a KDE situation there........going from the UK to USA via Saturn. ;)Jun 26 23:08
sebsebseb_Goblin: uh what?Jun 26 23:08
_Goblinsorry....Jun 26 23:08
_Goblinits a private joke that will be "public" if you listen to episode 52Jun 26 23:08
_GoblinIm sure kRoy and kRusty know what I mean.... ;)Jun 26 23:09
sebsebseb_Goblin: I play with the sapkers, and recorded some music from a techbytes episodeJun 26 23:09
_Goblin?Jun 26 23:09
sebsebsebsounds horrible though, since I was  playing with the speakers a lotJun 26 23:09
_Goblinwhy not just download it from Jamendo?Jun 26 23:09
sebsebseb_Goblin: was just doing a tesJun 26 23:09
sebsebsebtJun 26 23:10
sebsebsebneeded something to playJun 26 23:10
_GoblinahJun 26 23:10
sebsebsebhad some  Techbytes episodes easilly availalbeJun 26 23:10
ThistleWeb_Goblin: is ep52 out?Jun 26 23:10
_GoblinyepJun 26 23:10
ThistleWebgpodder threw errors trying to get the file a lil while backJun 26 23:10
_Goblinhttp://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/06/26/techbytes-audiocast-%E2%80%93-episode-52-%E2%80%93-250611-%E2%80%93-desktop-environments-and-the-demise-of-ubuntu/Jun 26 23:10
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_Goblinsebsebseb: what are you planning to run after Ubuntu?Jun 26 23:12
_GoblinI would have expected you to be running Mageia since you were involved with the project...Jun 26 23:12
ThistleWebmagieaJun 26 23:12
_GoblinMaybe he should see how that fares with the headphones and mic before resorting to a VM and a convoluted audio solution.Jun 26 23:13
ThistleWebkRusty the Klown?Jun 26 23:14
_GoblinI thought of that when I KDE'd his name..... :)Jun 26 23:14
_Goblinthats rather unfortunate.Jun 26 23:15
sebsebseb_Goblin: invovled with the project yes here and there, but not that much, only community side, but will get more properly invovled later onJun 26 23:16
sebsebsebby beining on the marketing and communications team :dJun 26 23:16
ThistleWebye GodsJun 26 23:16
sebsebseb_Goblin: and yes I will be running that for a while or so on here, but got other stuff I want to try out first distrowiseJun 26 23:17
ThistleWebtiz dooooomedJun 26 23:17
sebsebseb_Goblin: and well this month, I have been mainly just well using a computer,  nonthing that technical really,  well except for this vmJun 26 23:18
_GoblinI don't know...I could have marketed Vista very well......if I hadn't used it... ;)Jun 26 23:18
cubezzz hahaJun 26 23:18
cubezzznew harder to use and slower!Jun 26 23:18
sebsebseb_Goblin: I want to try out, Ubuntu 11.10 alpha 1 next for a bit, altough alph 2 is on 7th JulyJun 26 23:18
_Goblinsebsebseb: when are you going to come on the show....you are always welcome...Jun 26 23:18
sebsebseb_Goblin: well looks like it will be July now, before my birthday, and before going away in AugustJun 26 23:19
_Goblinyou got Skype on Android? theres an option for you.Jun 26 23:19
sebsebsebno not an option for meJun 26 23:19
sebsebsebI don't have AndroidJun 26 23:19
_Goblinah :(Jun 26 23:19
sebsebseb_Goblin: let me do my  distro trying :D and re install of Vista as well hmm,  and then i'll talk about going on the showJun 26 23:20
sebsebsebXP vm is a start :)Jun 26 23:20
sebsebsebglad I done thatJun 26 23:20
_Goblinyeah....whenever you are ready.....Jun 26 23:20
_Goblinhow about.....Jun 26 23:20
sebsebsebso anyway Ubuntu 11.10 alpha 1  want to give that a try on  here for a bit for realJun 26 23:20
cubezzzbad, you should always avoid windowsJun 26 23:20
sebsebsebMandriva 2011 is meant to be coming out soon, but don't really care that much about that one, since how they dumped GnomeJun 26 23:21
_GoblinA Vista install..running a Linux VM, running an XP vm....with skype (of course)Jun 26 23:21
sebsebsebunless community makeJun 26 23:21
sebsebseb_Goblin: noJun 26 23:21
_GoblinI jestJun 26 23:21
sebsebseb_Goblin: Vista will be just there if I want to run 3D apps in the future, well unless the install messes up on me again, without me even using it properlyJun 26 23:21
sebsebsebdual bootJun 26 23:21
_GoblinId suggest WP7 would be the better option thenJun 26 23:21
sebsebsebuh what?Jun 26 23:21
sebsebsebI don't want WP7 :)Jun 26 23:22
_Goblinsorry....Jun 26 23:22
_Goblintypo Jun 26 23:22
_Goblinive been writing about WP7 today.....Jun 26 23:22
_Goblinwindows 7Jun 26 23:22
sebsebsebnope looks like going to skip WIndows 7Jun 26 23:22
sebsebsebsinceJun 26 23:22
sebsebsebnot going to pirate itJun 26 23:22
sebsebsebandJun 26 23:22
sebsebsebnot been given it free legally some how, and not going to buy itJun 26 23:22
cubezzzI wouldn't even _consider_ windows 7Jun 26 23:22
sebsebseboh and I have sort of tried it alreadyJun 26 23:22
_Goblinwhy worry....look at any torrent tracker it seems nobody wants to pay for Windows 7......Jun 26 23:22
_Goblintheres bravery.....Jun 26 23:23
sebsebseb_Goblin: what your recommending I pirate WIndows 7?Jun 26 23:23
sebsebsebcubezzz: indeed from what I have seen, it's just very much so Vista version 2, so yep no point reallyJun 26 23:23
_Goblinno, I wouldn't recommend anythingJun 26 23:23
sebsebseb_Goblin: Windows 8Jun 26 23:23
_Goblinpersonally I wouldn't even want Windows for free.Jun 26 23:23
sebsebseb_Goblin: Windows 8 should be more interesting thoughJun 26 23:23
sebsebsebthey got a new interfaceJun 26 23:23
cubezzz_Goblin recommends Plus4Jun 26 23:23
sebsebseba interface that will be like UNity and Gnome Shell, but diffenretJun 26 23:23
sebsebseband well if Micrsooft don't get the next Windows being the most popular OS in the world, they really do have a problem as a companyJun 26 23:24
sebsebseboh and if it becomes another failure like Vista and Windows 7,  I guess  Mac OS X will become much more popular, and to some extent Desktop Linux as well of courseJun 26 23:24
_Goblinbrave is..........Downloading Windows 7 from an unknown source and installing it.......Windows in insecure when its original, god knows what it will be loaded with from a BT tracker....Jun 26 23:24
cubezzzI've been handing out Fedora 14 Live CD with positive resultsJun 26 23:25
sebsebsebfailure as in market shareJun 26 23:25
sebsebsebnot having enough usersJun 26 23:25
cubezzzcustomers like itJun 26 23:25
sebsebsebcubezzz: oh what kind of customers?Jun 26 23:25
cubezzzsebsebseb, customers with screwed up windows boxesJun 26 23:25
sebsebseb_Goblin: exactly get it from some weird torrent, and it may have malware insideJun 26 23:25
sebsebsebcubezzz: nice :)Jun 26 23:25
sebsebsebhow did you end up doing that thoughJun 26 23:25
sebsebsebI have thought about  doing something like that myselfJun 26 23:25
cubezzzsebsebseb, part of my job Jun 26 23:25
sebsebsebapparnatly can't really live off doing that kind of thing though,  I mean helping the people who aren't good at computers, and get paid for itJun 26 23:26
cubezzzI see messed up doze boxes quite oftenJun 26 23:26
cubezzzI also show them my 5 box setup at home when they drop their computers offJun 26 23:26
cubezzzI can even demo coreboot+ GNU/LinuxJun 26 23:27
_Goblinschestowitz: big ask time......if I send you a couple of photos again, can you add your artistic flair to them and see if you can come up with a logo for Byte.me?  Ive all but given up trying to be PIcasso.Jun 26 23:27
sebsebseb_Goblin: anyway whatever you think,  having Windows at times, can be quite useful, since how things are, with you know stuff not being made for Linux, but Windows yesJun 26 23:27
_Goblinlike what.....Jun 26 23:27
_GoblinI'm thinking as to what Windows binaries I need.Jun 26 23:27
_Goblinsolitaire?Jun 26 23:27
sebsebseb_Goblin: not just software, but hardware as well, take this headset for example, nice instructions with them,  well for Windows and Mac OS X,  read it and get impression they think it will be used with Windows useually,  and yep nothing about Linux in the instructions of courseJun 26 23:28
cubezzzyou mean kpat?Jun 26 23:28
_Goblinoh hang on the Windows calculator has been redesigned.....might want that...Jun 26 23:28
cubezzzgot that coveredJun 26 23:28
_Goblinsebsebseb: well if I have trouble with hardware I'll consider it.Jun 26 23:28
sebsebseb_Goblin: right and if you had a driving thorey DVD that had DRM on it, so can't just Wine it, I am sure you would consider it as well, like I doneJun 26 23:29
sebsebsebno choice their reallyJun 26 23:29
ThistleWebthe bot doing identica MIA?Jun 26 23:29
_Goblinsebsebseb: very true....but I thought we were talking hardwareJun 26 23:29
sebsebsebif something liike that is made for Windows and has DRM that stops it from being used in Wine, got to use Windows for it reallyJun 26 23:29
cubezzzsebsebseb, I can only think of _one_ reason to personally run windowsJun 26 23:29
_Goblinsebsebseb: what about crossover?Jun 26 23:29
cubezzzthat is DRM removal... that's itJun 26 23:29
sebsebseb_Goblin: well crossover is meant to be paid for, so nahJun 26 23:29
_Goblinsebsebseb: whats the package for the driving software?Jun 26 23:29
sebsebseband not going to pirate itJun 26 23:29
_Goblindon't need toJun 26 23:29
sebsebseb_Goblin: doesn't  matter that much which one they are, they are all sucky Windows software from a technical point of view, as far as I knowJun 26 23:29
_Goblinif you have the original theres bound to be a crack to remove the drmJun 26 23:30
sebsebseb_Goblin: oh, but that would be against their lisence agreement I guess :DJun 26 23:30
sebsebsebanyway this oneJun 26 23:30
sebsebsebI like howJun 26 23:30
_Goblinto hell with their license.Jun 26 23:30
sebsebsebthey have made it clear in the agreement, that  we don't own the softwareJun 26 23:30
ThistleWebis reverse engineering also known as sniffing the crack?Jun 26 23:30
*ThistleWeb hidesJun 26 23:30
_GoblinlolJun 26 23:30
sebsebseb,but we have a lisence to use itJun 26 23:30
sebsebseb_Goblin: then for the update, they even said about bugs that had been fixed and such :DJun 26 23:30
sebsebseb,but these people seem to think, people want to follow them on Facebook  or/and Twitter as wellJun 26 23:31
sebsebsebsince after the update or whtever, the  thing about thatJun 26 23:31
sebsebsebin the DVD romJun 26 23:31
_Goblinyou have bought the original....if you want to deploy it on your machine, you can any way you wish.....they would be laughed out of court and have a PR nightmare targetting a home user for installing his own software.Jun 26 23:31
ThistleWebthe licence is that you're allowed to use it under those terms, which include the restrictions in the DRM, bypassing that means you use it in a way they don't allow, so you don't have a licence to use it that wayJun 26 23:32
_Goblininfact in the past due to DRM problems, many devs directed people to the crack.Jun 26 23:32
_Goblin.....Jun 26 23:32
_Goblinthat sounds so wrongJun 26 23:32
*sebsebseb agrees with ThistleWebJun 26 23:32
sebsebsebyou have a right to use it on their terms exactlyJun 26 23:32
ThistleWebdevs are porn site marketters tooJun 26 23:32
sebsebsebif you do something against the terms, then you don't really have a lisence for it anymoreJun 26 23:33
sebsebsebbaicalelyJun 26 23:33
_Goblinbut then....re the license, what would they do?Jun 26 23:33
_Goblinas I say....it would be a brave company to take a home user to court with a single license that he/she purchased legitimately.Jun 26 23:33
_Goblinbreach of license yes.....Ronny Real time......they wouldn't bother.Jun 26 23:33
ThistleWebnever underestimate the stoopidity of some corps legal deptsJun 26 23:34
sebsebsebalso this oneJun 26 23:34
sebsebsebquite interestingJun 26 23:34
sebsebsebeven after accepting the agreementJun 26 23:34
_GoblinOh I don't...but public outcry is now so much stronger.Jun 26 23:34
_Goblinpeople don't roll over any more.Jun 26 23:34
_GoblinACS:law cases proved that.Jun 26 23:34
sebsebsebI mean after accepting the agreement, a screen came up, about what had been accepted exactlyJun 26 23:34
sebsebseb_Goblin: ThistleWeb Anyway I don't really blame the driving thorey companies doing DRM to stop people from copying it or what not, because well people  would copy and give to their friends and so onJun 26 23:35
_GoblinIve changed my view on copyright infringement.......Jun 26 23:35
_GoblinI just don't care anymore....Jun 26 23:35
_Goblinlet them all sink.Jun 26 23:35
cubezzzhmmmJun 26 23:35
ThistleWebthe more obnoxious companies are, the less sympathy I have for themJun 26 23:36
sebsebsebmost propritary software is made for  Windows and  then some for Mac OS XJun 26 23:36
sebsebsebyep they tend to ignore us Linux usersJun 26 23:36
_Goblinhow much money has been wasted chasing the "pirates"....how many innocent people have suffered....?Jun 26 23:36
sebsebsebsince the lack of market shareJun 26 23:36
cubezzzcomputers may even be becoming worst in some ways Jun 26 23:37
sebsebseboh and how they probably think a lot of us have Windows around anywayJun 26 23:37
cubezzzhence my use of older computersJun 26 23:37
ThistleWebwhen they refuse to meet the market demand, screw themJun 26 23:37
_Goblinlike I say, let them all sink. Jun 26 23:37
cubezzzworse evenJun 26 23:37
cubezzzI think I'll fire up the ol' amiga 500 :)Jun 26 23:37
sebsebsebanyway UK is very much so locked into MicrosoftJun 26 23:37
sebsebsebso no suprise that a  DVD ROM that is from the UKJun 26 23:37
sebsebsebhas been made only for WindowsJun 26 23:37
cubezzzI'll pay... Jun 26 23:39
cubezzzfor source codeJun 26 23:39
sebsebseb_Goblin: and sometimes we have a valid enough reason, to use paid for propritary software,  that also wasn't made for our OS of choice.Jun 26 23:39
cubezzzI have paid for proprietary games... but I still try to get source codeJun 26 23:40
sebsebsebbe that in a Windows virtual machine, a  Windows pshyicall install, or in Wine, in the case of WIndows softwareJun 26 23:40
_Goblinsebsebseb: agreed....I support proprietary software in that I use it.Jun 26 23:40
_Goblinsebsebseb: as for piracy.....let them sink....as I say.Jun 26 23:40
sebsebsebwho the companies?Jun 26 23:40
_Goblinits sort of a long drawn out rant that stems from the actions of copyright holders.Jun 26 23:41
sebsebsebyep these companies lose a lot of moneyJun 26 23:41
sebsebsebbe it software companies or the music industryJun 26 23:41
_Goblinreally?Jun 26 23:41
sebsebseband who do they blame? Yep that's right the pirates.Jun 26 23:41
_Goblinand they have a minority report type device that shows them what would have been without piracy?Jun 26 23:42
cubezzzah, the whole a/v market is a big scamJun 26 23:42
cubezzzscamcityJun 26 23:42
sebsebsebcubezzz:  The Windows security industry you mean?Jun 26 23:42
sebsebseband indeedJun 26 23:42
sebsebsebvery much so a scam/con/trickJun 26 23:42
cubezzzsebsebseb, yesJun 26 23:42
_Goblinsince the entertainment industry in particular is making more now than it ever did, the whole piracy costs is rubbishJun 26 23:42
sebsebsebthey mainly take advantage of computer ignorance and make quite a lot of money by doing soJun 26 23:42
_Goblinits greed for more and more....thats why I say let them sink.Jun 26 23:42
sebsebsebcubezzz: people could be educated on how to keep a computer rather secure online, but yep that's something most  Educational Establisments really do not do.Jun 26 23:43
cubezzzeducation itself is a mess, at least as far as computers goJun 26 23:43
sebsebsebcubezzz: oh and in this country the UK it's so bad, that well it's mainly about teaching them Microsoft Office at school and stuff like that, as for Windows security if it's mentioned at all, it will be like you should have a anti virus and keep it up to date.Jun 26 23:43
sebsebseband well it's not just like this here, but other counteries as wellJun 26 23:44
cubezzzthat's not goodJun 26 23:44
sebsebsebcubezzz: indeedJun 26 23:44
sebsebsebEducation is very bad in general in the UK for teaching about computers.Jun 26 23:44
sebsebseband not only hereJun 26 23:44
cubezzzI used to think the UK was _better_Jun 26 23:45
ThistleWebis the bot broken? it's not pulled any identica content in a whileJun 26 23:45
cubezzze.g. Acorn ArchimedesJun 26 23:46
ThistleWebnothing worse that a broken butt, makes it painful to sitJun 26 23:46
ThistleWeberm.....botJun 26 23:46
cubezzzbut then RISC OS was closed source tooJun 26 23:46
sebsebsebcubezzz: no UK is one of the worst counteries in the whole of Europe when it comes to computingJun 26 23:46
sebsebsebif not the worstJun 26 23:46
cubezzzsebsebseb, what country would be the best?Jun 26 23:47
cubezzzin Europe?Jun 26 23:47
sebsebsebcubezzz: I have a feeling that Germany for example isn't as bad when it comes to computingJun 26 23:47
sebsebseband France for that matterJun 26 23:47
cubezzzyou would think Finland would be pretty goodJun 26 23:47
cubezzzUK also had Iyonix which I think was significant if short-livedJun 26 23:48
sebsebsebwell the French police went Ubuntu or whateverJun 26 23:48
sebsebsebMandriva is or was French, well Russians own them nowJun 26 23:48
sebsebsebthe Mageia organisation is located in yep FranceJun 26 23:48
sebsebsebMunich went Open Office or whatever for a while, but went back to Windows or whateverJun 26 23:48
cubezzzdid Munich really go back to windows?Jun 26 23:49
sebsebsebyep I think they went backJun 26 23:49
sebsebsebnot really been reading that stuff porperly,  but read stuff beforeJun 26 23:49
sebsebsebcubezzz: anyway i'll tell you how to run  Windows if really wanting it, and it's fine for most stuff, not 3D stuff, yep a virtual machine of course :)Jun 26 23:50
sebsebsebplus well if you get infected, just throw the vm away, and use a clean copy or a snapshot basically :dJun 26 23:50
cubezzznah, I'm off windows 100% except in cases where the customer explicitly wants windowsJun 26 23:51
cubezzznever touch it for personal useJun 26 23:51
cubezzzLinuxtag 2011 reports on MunichJun 26 23:51
sebsebsebcubezzz: Have you got any advice for me, on how I could do that kind of thing myself, but only really software side?Jun 26 23:53
sebsebsebyou know go to peoples hosuesJun 26 23:53
sebsebsebsort out computerJun 26 23:53
sebsebsebget paid a bitJun 26 23:53
cubezzzbusiness cards for starters :)Jun 26 23:53
cubezzzhand them out to peopleJun 26 23:53
ThistleWebcard in local corner shopsJun 26 23:53
cubezzzbtw the Munich project has been extended to 2013Jun 26 23:54
cubezzzso it's still aliveJun 26 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's amazing the amount of useless trivia we all keep in our heads, can pull off at will, but has no function other than pub quizzesJun 26 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Copying of data almost done I think.Jun 26 23:54
sebsebsebThistleWeb: well one of the super markets here, can put stuff like that up in itJun 26 23:54
sebsebsebin a sectionJun 26 23:54
sebsebseband I think still canJun 26 23:54
ThistleWebmost local cornershops have a section near the door for local ads fpr all sorts of stuffJun 26 23:55
sebsebsebcubezzz: What would the business card way or wahtever? that's the other thingJun 26 23:55
ThistleWebfrom garage sales, to wedding dress for sale etcJun 26 23:56
sebsebsebor the advert in the shop, what would it say?Jun 26 23:56
sebsebsebthat's the other issueJun 26 23:56
cubezzzPC repair is one possibilityJun 26 23:56
sebsebsebcubezzz: right, but I am not much of a hardawre personJun 26 23:56
sebsebsebI don't want to be opening up PC's reallyJun 26 23:56
ThistleWebmost people will expect PC repair as "windows repair"Jun 26 23:56
sebsebsebI mean I could recommend hardware sure, butJun 26 23:56
cubezzzLinux tutoring....Jun 26 23:56
cubezzzor just plain ol' computer tutoringJun 26 23:57
sebsebsebI don't want to be opening up the machine and putting it inJun 26 23:57
ThistleWebslipping linux in there will be seen as a bait & switchJun 26 23:57
sebsebsebI just want to set up dual boots, and  hep with re installs, and get a few on Linux, if  doing this kind of thingJun 26 23:57
*cubezzz shrugsJun 26 23:57
sebsebsebthought about this kind of thing here and there since 2007Jun 26 23:57
cubezzzwell you tell them what the choices are at leastJun 26 23:57
sebsebsebThistleWeb: bait and switch what you mean?Jun 26 23:57
cubezzzThistleWeb, give them a live cd for when their doze messes upJun 26 23:57
cubezzzno bait and switch thereJun 26 23:57
sebsebsebwell back in 2007,  I helped two guys, my Dad sort of knew at the timeJun 26 23:58
sebsebsebdidn't quite go as well as it should have though overall, but well first onesJun 26 23:58
ThistleWebthey see you as "PC repair" and expect you to fix what they have, instead you turn upo and talk about this different thing that means losing what they haveJun 26 23:58
sebsebsebfirst guy I got him using Ubuntu, but he wanted to use WIndows movie maker and uhJun 26 23:58
sebsebseband only really wanted to use one OS on a computer, he was 71Jun 26 23:58
sebsebsebin the end well he just went back to WindowsJun 26 23:58
ThistleWebthey expect one thing, as you advertise one thing, then turn up to offer something differentJun 26 23:58
sebsebsebthe other guy uhmm,  some idiot, with AOL still, when  he could have had  a better connectionJun 26 23:59
sebsebseband no it wasn't just re install, and AOL works againJun 26 23:59
sebsebsebI mean re install the AOL software or OSJun 26 23:59
cubezzzyou know companies used to pay major $$$ for Unix right?Jun 26 23:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @jankusanagi: @jargon pulled a nice Straw Man argument there. nobody wants choqok to be a web browser. I would like a discussion tree thoughJun 26 23:59
cubezzzthink about thatJun 26 23:59

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