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| schestowitz | LOL http://imgur.com/7lHc5 | Jul 12 02:04 |
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| TechrightsSocial | Title: Well there's no way anything could go wrong with THIS Causal Encounter scenario... - Imgur .::. Size~: 9.73 KB | Jul 12 02:04 |
| schestowitz | Shark! [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/g3ASk.jpg | Jul 12 02:18 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jul 12 02:18 |
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| schestowitz | Unix systems may not be all the rage that they were two decades ago, but in nearly eight out of 10 data centers based on them, their use is either holding steady or increasing. | Jul 12 09:23 |
| schestowitz | That's the assessment of a recent survey of the HP, IBM, and Oracle Unix customer bases by Gabriel Consulting Group, which has just finished up its fifth annual slicing and dicing of Unix customer sentiments. | Jul 12 09:23 |
| schestowitz | Unix systems have successfully colonized their neighborhoods in the data centers of the world, and are resisting the onslaught of Windows and Linux on those systems' relatively inexpensive x64 iron. The Unix colonists are also resisting all of the marketing muscle and money that is dedicated to evicting them. | Jul 12 09:23 |
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| schestowitz | interesting point I came across: | Jul 12 13:40 |
| schestowitz | anti-depressents get called medicine, "Drugs" means the poor people's thing with side effects. Likewise, in the museum they have named "Art", poor people's is "pr0n" | Jul 12 13:40 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/78610082 http://identi.ca/conversation/76051294#notice-78610082 | Jul 12 13:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 12-Jul-11 12:33:25 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ha, it is what made their "fame", so to speak... | Jul 12 13:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.64 KB | Jul 12 13:49 |
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| schestowitz | Just received a bizarre mail | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Without putting names in, see for yourseves: | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Re: letter (Super, super important) | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > Hi friend, | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > Some time ago I say that I will stop sending news to you, but I | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > thinked that this will be bad. I had infection of closed source os for | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > big time and now I opened Pandora Box and I am free and decide that | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > world need changes from people which like freedom and love GOD like I | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > and with you we will stop bad things. It is time to become stronger | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > and I believe GOD will help you too. Let's hope that software patents | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > will be destroyed and devil patents will be stopped forever. | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > I think that I will be after Richard Stallman to help world and GOD is | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > my best friend! | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > Roy, I am free and I am crying because GOD helped me!!!! | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | > All best, | Jul 12 20:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 12 20:43 |
| ender_33 | why is that bizarre | Jul 12 21:03 |
| schestowitz | you need to see other e-mails from the same person | Jul 12 21:09 |
| schestowitz | I think it's an emotional baggage | Jul 12 21:10 |
| abeNd-org | anytime anyone mentions god with anything else all of a sudden they are nuts | Jul 12 21:10 |
| ender_33 | abeNd-org - are you being serious? | Jul 12 21:18 |
| ender_33 | abeNd-org - indoctrination doesn't make one nuts | Jul 12 21:18 |
| abeNd-org | tell that to the media | Jul 12 21:31 |
| abeNd-org | "oh, he said god, he must be nuts" | Jul 12 21:31 |
| ender_33 | ohhhhhh | Jul 12 21:39 |
| ender_33 | lol I thought I was | Jul 12 21:39 |
| ender_33 | you right wing rich religious nut bag | Jul 12 21:40 |
| ender_33 | go take your guns and go back to your militia | Jul 12 21:40 |
| schestowitz | I meet more and more people who over overworked | Jul 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz | And not paid for overtime | Jul 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz | That's a sort of abuse of the law | Jul 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz | It means that whatever their wage, they need to divide that by a number greater than 1 | Jul 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz | And few jobs are the opposite, overstating the # of actual work hours required | Jul 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz | But people still judge jibs by absolute numbers | Jul 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz | They treat it like a status symbol | Jul 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Rather than judge how much theybget paid per hour or per unit effort | Jul 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: the above person did mention guns at some stage | Jul 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz | So like I said, you lack context | Jul 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz | My fault there.. | Jul 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mikec1972/status/90879725970534400 | Jul 12 22:00 |
| TechrightsSocial | @mikec1972: @schestowitz weather kaiboshed b'day w'end ended up at naked art exhibition free entry (11 rooms-mancs), chinatown, pole and er.... Asda | Jul 12 22:00 |
| schestowitz | b'day weekend? This past weekend? I ought to have come... | Jul 12 22:00 |
| ender_33 | 16:53 < schestowitz> And not paid for overtime | Jul 12 22:14 |
| ender_33 | illegal here | Jul 12 22:14 |
| ender_33 | 16:59 < TechrightsSocial> @mikec1972: @schestowitz weather kaiboshed b'day w'end ended up at naked art exhibition free entry (11 rooms-mancs), chinatown, pole and er.... Asda | Jul 12 22:15 |
| ender_33 | weather.... oh my god | Jul 12 22:15 |
| ender_33 | CLIMATE CHANGE! | Jul 12 22:15 |
| schestowitz | [22:14] <ender_33> illegal here | Jul 12 22:16 |
| schestowitz | can't sue them | Jul 12 22:16 |
| schestowitz | People are afraid to assert these rights | Jul 12 22:16 |
| schestowitz | and this is esp. exploited when the economy is "weak" | Jul 12 22:16 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: yes | Jul 12 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Rain in summer | Jul 12 22:17 |
| ender_33 | ahh | Jul 12 22:17 |
| ender_33 | well in Canada, we have the Ministry of Labour | Jul 12 22:17 |
| ender_33 | they'll sue for you | Jul 12 22:18 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: re arlier point | Jul 12 22:18 |
| ender_33 | that being said, my co workers at Canada Computers were still too scared to demand rights | Jul 12 22:18 |
| schestowitz | when I peer-review a paper from someone who thanks God in his/her work it hurts | Jul 12 22:18 |
| schestowitz | it might be "Distrimanatory", but I don't see the problem | Jul 12 22:19 |
| ender_33 | he has a right to have a religion | Jul 12 22:19 |
| schestowitz | If one places faith over reason, this does not inspire confidence in his/her reserch | Jul 12 22:19 |
| ender_33 | its his freedom | Jul 12 22:19 |
| schestowitz | This is what we need to go by | Jul 12 22:19 |
| schestowitz | sure | Jul 12 22:19 |
| schestowitz | But I don't have the obligation to respect these opinions | Jul 12 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Religion is not an exception | Jul 12 22:19 |
| ender_33 | no but if you judge his work based on his religion you're commiting a crime | Jul 12 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Just as if someone telle me that Elvis is still alive I don't have to keep a straight face | Jul 12 22:20 |
| schestowitz | I don't | Jul 12 22:20 |
| schestowitz | but I have less confidence on it | Jul 12 22:20 |
| schestowitz | *in | Jul 12 22:20 |
| ender_33 | thats a judgement | Jul 12 22:20 |
| ender_33 | his religion should have no effect on you | Jul 12 22:20 |
| schestowitz | And in general, people who are adhering tro religion I think are more dishonest sometimes | Jul 12 22:21 |
| ender_33 | 'less confidence' is an effect | Jul 12 22:21 |
| schestowitz | They claim to have a moral compass but are willing to lie to defend faith, which they see as representing something else | Jul 12 22:21 |
| schestowitz | if science becomes a faith too, then we have liars denying warning | Jul 12 22:21 |
| ender_33 | bah | Jul 12 22:21 |
| schestowitz | And then working against evidnece to make faith-based claims | Jul 12 22:21 |
| ender_33 | there are no liars denying warming | Jul 12 22:21 |
| schestowitz | not religion | Jul 12 22:22 |
| schestowitz | I don't care for any in particular | Jul 12 22:22 |
| ender_33 | I don't follow religion either but I'll defend someones right to | Jul 12 22:22 |
| schestowitz | But when the same thesis mixes physics and belief in the non-existent, then it's perplexing | Jul 12 22:22 |
| schestowitz | I heard typical arguments | Jul 12 22:22 |
| ender_33 | is it really? | Jul 12 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Like, "i reconcile this by not dealing with religion when I do science and vice versa" | Jul 12 22:23 |
| schestowitz | but this requires split personality | Jul 12 22:23 |
| ender_33 | does his evidence derive from god or is he simply thanking an external force he perceived as a guide | Jul 12 22:23 |
| ender_33 | some people thank some sort of lucky object they own | Jul 12 22:24 |
| ender_33 | others attribute to karma, etc | Jul 12 22:24 |
| ender_33 | really, theres a 50/50 chance of anything | Jul 12 22:24 |
| schestowitz | we still have to place a degress of trust in what we see | Jul 12 22:24 |
| ender_33 | law of averages | Jul 12 22:24 |
| ender_33 | no matter who you worship, theres a 50/50 chance of getting what you want | Jul 12 22:25 |
| schestowitz | so to know about the person does matter as I cannot rerun the experiments | Jul 12 22:25 |
| ender_33 | George Carlin :) | Jul 12 22:25 |
| schestowitz | The claims re results cannot be taken at face value | Jul 12 22:25 |
| ender_33 | 17:24 < schestowitz> so to know about the person does matter as I cannot rerun the experiments | Jul 12 22:25 |
| ender_33 | that discriminates, is ad hominem and quite illegal | Jul 12 22:25 |
| ender_33 | even under the UN | Jul 12 22:26 |
| schestowitz | No, it's based on many factors | Jul 12 22:26 |
| schestowitz | mostly publication record | Jul 12 22:26 |
| ender_33 | you can't say its one of the factors at all | Jul 12 22:26 |
| schestowitz | when you see a newcomer there's not a credence built yet | Jul 12 22:26 |
| ender_33 | everyone has the right to practice whatever religion they want | Jul 12 22:26 |
| schestowitz | like munkton (? spelling ?) who never published a paper | Jul 12 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Why should one trust him? For many other reasons it's shown that he deceievd. | Jul 12 22:27 |
| ender_33 | Can you prove that? | Jul 12 22:27 |
| schestowitz | So no wonder if his papers would be rejected, he can't even produce one, let alone rad those that he cites | Jul 12 22:27 |
| ender_33 | Can you prove he knew he was wrong and said it anyways? | Jul 12 22:27 |
| schestowitz | yes, potholder proved it | Jul 12 22:27 |
| schestowitz | he spoke to him via email | Jul 12 22:28 |
| schestowitz | and christopher ran away | Jul 12 22:28 |
| ender_33 | do you have the e-mail? | Jul 12 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Cause he was challenged well enough | Jul 12 22:28 |
| ender_33 | I wanna read | Jul 12 22:28 |
| schestowitz | hold on... | Jul 12 22:28 |
| ender_33 | also, is it based on potholder telling monkton he was wrong and them having an argument? | Jul 12 22:29 |
| schestowitz | It's part of this series http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3giRaGNTMA | Jul 12 22:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: YouTube - Monckton Bunkum Part 4 -- Quotes and misquotes .::. Size~: 127.3 KB | Jul 12 22:29 |
| schestowitz | he did a good job, took a long time to make | Jul 12 22:29 |
| ender_33 | id rather see the email convo that took place | Jul 12 22:29 |
| ender_33 | monkton bunkum is annoying | Jul 12 22:30 |
| ender_33 | im thinking potholder probably told him something saying it was a fact and monkton didn't accept it | Jul 12 22:30 |
| ender_33 | which doesnt mean he is lying, but ill have to see for myself | Jul 12 22:31 |
| ender_33 | ill be back in a few hours or tomorrow | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Just got this mail: | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | > You referred to this | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | > (http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/07/duh-ballmer-says-wp7-not-yet-a-success.html) | Jul 12 22:31 |
| TechrightsSocial | Error processing the URL | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | > article, | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | > I have a question about this: | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | > [...Roskill said 95 percent of Microsoft’s revenue comes from work that | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | > involves partners. Breaking it down, Roskill said for every $1 Microsoft | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | > makes on software, partners make $8.70.] | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | > Does this mean the "extortion rate" is aproximately 10% ($1/($1 + $8.70))? | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | > :-) | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Heh. Well, I see the point. But anyway, this is partly propaganda, part of the claim of Microsoft helping to create jobs and stuff. | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: ok | Jul 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz | it's not a bad series, it's compressed too | Jul 12 22:32 |
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