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abeNd-orgwhats with spam these days anyways, are there still people gullible to think that insertsexysluttystarletnamehere wants to send them pictures, or the bazillion viagra spam, or your rich dead uncle in nigeria has money for you shit....why not get a new line at least, come up with some original spam....Jul 23 06:17
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/79486183 http://identi.ca/conversation/76914262#notice-79486183Jul 23 08:29
TechrightsSocial@Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Saturday, 23-Jul-11 01:35:06 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz You wouldn't believe how much effort we put into trying to convince drivers not to do things like that. #ITSDFJul 23 08:29
TechrightsSocialTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.32 KBJul 23 08:29
schestowitzabeNd-org: you're not their target audienceJul 23 08:29
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/79486232Jul 23 08:32
TechrightsSocial@Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Saturday, 23-Jul-11 01:36:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Seeing someone do something that stupid on a forklift really bothers me. I've seen too many fatalities. #ITSDFJul 23 08:32
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schestowitzhttp://pete.com/files/photos/erectricians.jpgJul 23 09:01
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/15fuQ.pngJul 23 09:03
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schestowitzMinceR: http://i.imgur.com/wKzE1.jpgJul 23 09:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wood5y/status/94679023480877056Jul 23 09:11
TechrightsSocial@wood5y: latest release of #GNU Parallel has the unfortunate codename of #Murdoch http://is.gd/WzFhDp (via @schestowitz)Jul 23 09:12
TechrightsSocial-> Title: GNU Parallel - build and execute command lines from standard input in parallel - News: GNU Parallel 20110722 ('Murdoch') released [Savannah] .::. Size~: 23.65 KBJul 23 09:12
schestowitzIs it standard for ISPs that dynamically allocate IP address to users to deny SSH access to those machines on these IPs?Jul 23 09:21
oiaohmschestowitz: I have a way around that evil.Jul 23 09:32
oiaohmschestowitz: openvpn running with dynamic dnsJul 23 09:32
oiaohmschestowitz: set to automatically reconnect in case of breakage.Jul 23 09:33
schestowitzbut my quetoin was differentJul 23 09:47
schestowitzi'm trying to figure out where the fault isJul 23 09:47
schestowitz spent hours last year ensuring my sshd is up and availableJul 23 09:48
schestowitzyet I cannot ssh to this amchineJul 23 09:48
oiaohmYou checked the basis that the modem is passing on port 22Jul 23 09:48
oiaohmAnd  the insane of setting it up on port 1024Jul 23 09:49
oiaohmIe 1024 and up seams to avoid ISP port filtering for sshJul 23 09:49
schestowitzhaven't Jul 23 09:49
schestowitzshouldn't be neededJul 23 09:49
oiaohmIf same settings with 1024 workJul 23 09:49
oiaohmYou know for sure isp is port blocking.Jul 23 09:50
oiaohmSome isp block 22 as a mater of policy.Jul 23 09:50
oiaohmand I do mean blockJul 23 09:50
oiaohmdoes not matter if you have a dynamic or static ip Jul 23 09:51
schestowitzI can't even ssh to selfJul 23 09:51
oiaohmOkJul 23 09:51
oiaohmYou should always be able to ssh to the sshd server from the machine its onJul 23 09:51
oiaohmunless you setup is wrong.Jul 23 09:51
schestowitzand the ip I ssh to is mineJul 23 09:51
schestowitzfrom the same boxJul 23 09:51
schestowitzlet's do some tests...Jul 23 09:52
oiaohmie ssh 127.0.0.1 is a good starting place.Jul 23 09:52
schestowitzthat one worksJul 23 09:53
schestowitzBut not if I put the real addressJul 23 09:53
schestowitzi.e. if going via BTJul 23 09:54
schestowitz109.145..xJul 23 09:54
schestowitzcan establish to connection to self via loopbackJul 23 09:55
oiaohmWhat about modem assigned ip.Jul 23 09:55
schestowitzso I know sshd is up, don't think the firewalls cause an issueJul 23 09:55
oiaohmExternal BT ip not being able to connect to it is normal.Jul 23 09:56
oiaohmIe routing normally is the wrong way for internal.Jul 23 09:56
oiaohmI would still try port 1024Jul 23 09:56
oiaohmand see if that works external.Jul 23 09:56
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schestowitzhmm.. even ping doesn't workJul 23 10:06
schestowitzmaybe the hub does something to the equestJul 23 10:12
schestowitzlet me try port forwardingJul 23 10:13
schestowitzOpenSSH_4.3p2, OpenSSL 0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 01 Jul 2008Jul 23 10:15
schestowitzdebug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_configJul 23 10:15
schestowitzdebug1: Applying options for *Jul 23 10:15
schestowitzdebug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0Jul 23 10:15
schestowitzAhaJul 23 10:15
schestowitzThat did itJul 23 10:15
schestowitzI needed to forward the portJul 23 10:15
schestowitzsolved thenJul 23 10:15
schestowitzoiaohm: thanks for the tipsJul 23 10:22
oiaohmI am finding how painful it is to move a few tb of data aroundJul 23 10:24
schestowitz> I gave up on the venture, because although tempting, would have been more trouble than it is worth.Jul 23 10:27
schestowitz Jul 23 10:28
schestowitzThe best one can do is ignore the distraction and produce signal.Jul 23 10:28
schestowitzoiaohm: over what wiring?Jul 23 10:28
schestowitz> I purchased a new Linux compatible wireless card because this rental we are in doesn't have a convenient phone jack where the desktop PC is located. The old card I have, the wireless will not work with Linux using the windows drivers where encryption is required, which is odd but documented.Jul 23 10:29
schestowitzI think this area is improving all the time.Jul 23 10:29
schestowitz> I just haven't installed it yet so I can work in Ubuntu. Hence my use of WinXP for the time for the system. I don't have a problem with wireless with Ubuntu on my Gateway notebook and ASUS netbook.Jul 23 10:29
schestowitzI see..Jul 23 10:29
oiaohmOver sata with normal harddrivesJul 23 10:30
oiaohmYes the day of the annual back up everything critical is on me.Jul 23 10:31
oiaohmI use harddrives like tapes these days.Jul 23 10:31
schestowitzZDnews 'news' http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/linus-torvalds-needs-to-shut-up-about-apple/52905Jul 23 10:35
TechrightsSocialTitle: Linus Torvalds needs to shut up about Apple | ZDNet .::. Size~: 129.36 KBJul 23 10:35
schestowitzoiaohm: what throughput do you get?Jul 23 10:35
schestowitzoiaohm: btw, seen you arguing what Ars' Microsoft author in #techrights. That channel now has two anti-Linux people in it.Jul 23 10:36
schestowitzMy friend harv has just uploaded trip pictures with good music in the background (probably copyright issue) http://www.photoshow.com/watch/re8zE8II?source=em_ps_show_ownerJul 23 10:38
TechrightsSocialTitle: MEDITERRANEAN...GREEK ISLES CRUISE JUNE 2011 | Roxio PhotoShow .::. Size~: 109.59 KBJul 23 10:38
oiaohmschestowitz: 40 to 50 meg per sec.Jul 23 10:45
oiaohmschestowitz: would like faster.Jul 23 10:46
oiaohmschestowitz: we need the anti-linux for fun.Jul 23 10:47
oiaohmAlso I have a feeling I am going to have to leave fslint or equal running for a few days Jul 23 10:48
schestowitzinfinityband?Jul 23 10:51
oiaohmThese are all locally connected drives to this box.Jul 23 10:51
oiaohmYes I know scary a computer with 15 hot plugable sata harddrivesJul 23 10:52
oiaohmMost 1tb in sizeJul 23 10:52
oiaohmAfter raiding I have about 6 tb of data to backup.Jul 23 10:53
oiaohmNote that hot plug drives are data drives not applications or OS drivesJul 23 10:54
oiaohmschestowitz: I do incremental backups through the year.Jul 23 10:55
oiaohmschestowitz: this is the yearly master backup day.Jul 23 10:55
oiaohmand drive cleaning.Jul 23 10:57
oiaohmI hope its like last year when I found 1 tb of duplicate dataJul 23 10:57
schestowitzhttp://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405Jul 23 11:02
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Great American Bubble Machine | Rolling Stone Politics .::. Size~: 50.07 KBJul 23 11:02
schestowitzoiaohm: duplicate data is a serious problemJul 23 11:02
schestowitzBut we have enough spare metals for itJul 23 11:03
schestowitzand magnetsJul 23 11:03
oiaohmWhen its 1/6 of the storage is kinda critical.Jul 23 11:03
schestowitzOne of our clients, a company with about 300 servers, backs up with rsync every night to one servrJul 23 11:03
oiaohmBut if its under 1/100 we normally don't worry.Jul 23 11:03
oiaohmThis the built platform machine.Jul 23 11:04
schestowitzand the hard-drive there takes so much load that iotop barely responds and we have alerts about disk not ebing thereJul 23 11:04
schestowitzThe hard-drive broke down not so long ago, had to get new one and lefhandJul 23 11:04
oiaohmIe built machines get insanely dirty.Jul 23 11:04
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schestowitzre the Norway incidentsJul 23 12:13
schestowitzThis furthe rvalidates what I said about serial killersJul 23 12:13
schestowitzIt's not that smart people are more insaneJul 23 12:13
schestowitzIt's just that the smarter people who get extreme are just more apt at doing at a large scale what a lot of dumb and hateful people want to doJul 23 12:13
schestowitzThus, the govt. can dedicate less resources to hunting down idiotic zealotsJul 23 12:14
schestowitzAnd start cracking down on extremists of the other kindsJul 23 12:14
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JA4EPRbWhQJul 23 15:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: ‪It's Only Sexist When Men Do It‬‏       - YouTube .::. Size~: 170.77 KBJul 23 15:05
schestowitzJust to give a headsup, I'm away next week till around the 5th of August.Jul 23 16:11
schestowitzMinceR can probably manage this channelJul 23 16:12
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/dbudlov/status/92362047249072129Jul 23 18:48
TechrightsSocial@dbudlov: Governments destroy freedom, lawyers destroy justice, bankers destroy wealth and the media destroys information.Jul 23 18:48
schestowitz[18:48] <MinceR> uncontrollable focus stealong on one side, stupid global menu on the otherJul 23 18:53
schestowitzThis is a good example where the OS needs to fit the userJul 23 18:54
schestowitzWithout needing to put addonsJul 23 18:54
schestowitzSome people's workflow requires focus to follow mouseJul 23 18:54
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/94829430844825601?iid=am-37327486213114440737290301&nid=4&uid=26603208Jul 23 19:34
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: .@winterthur Once one realises corporate media is arranged to maintain the deadly "consensus" it is logical to avoid it all @schestowitz #tvJul 23 19:34
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schestowitz> :-) "if the presentation has been getting many views today it's because some addict called Roy played it over and over again, using it as his fine playlist"Jul 23 21:57
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/94722894726311937 http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/statuses/94864533880979457Jul 23 21:58
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz: The corporate media gives the Norwegian shooter exactly what he wanted. It makes him famous. How would that suppress future attacks?Jul 23 21:58
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz The media not only supplies attention, it sowed the seeds for the action, over past decade.Jul 23 21:58
schestowitzWow. mcc.ac.uk has been expiredJul 23 22:02
schestowitzused to be the domain I went to work with, they migrated the siteJul 23 22:02
schestowitzAnd they let this domain name die, along with pages I wrote thereJul 23 22:02

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