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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @x11r5: @rpcutts A warm welcome to country by ruth bell of the fireJul 17 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] It seems I am on top of some list at Microsoft Portugal. The fact they keep such a list amuses me more than leading it :)Jul 17 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @rejon How I feel about Google+ (not thrilled) http://ping.fm/Z4Ku8Jul 17 00:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] +1 ♻ @araceletorres: O Ineiev jogando a sugesta pra que eu seja coordenadora do time de tradução pt-br do Projeto GNU. Que tentação!Jul 17 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @shot Tym o wolności (+ piękna pointa): http://archiwum.polityka.pl/art/431912.html !polska !polandJul 17 00:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @stav !onthisdate in 1993, the !Slackware OS was 1st released. It was one of earliest built on top of !Linux kernel & is the oldest m ...Jul 17 01:14
schestowitztessier: ping. Site is down, tried restarting apache to no availJul 17 01:16
schestowitzcopilotco down as wellJul 17 01:17
schestowitzyou've fixed it :-)Jul 17 01:27
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DaemonFChehJul 17 03:20
DaemonFCI switched my thumbdrive to XFS instead of FAT32Jul 17 03:20
DaemonFCthe entire file system formatting uses only 10 MB for an 8 GB filesystemJul 17 03:20
DaemonFCnot badJul 17 03:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Whatever the corresponding term for #dllhell and #jarhell is in #Haskell, I have just experienced it.Jul 17 04:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Rt "@spacefuture: The first game of capture the flag in space has begun #space http://bit.ly/qzytha"Jul 17 05:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] do not redirect me! why does getfirefox.com force me to the #Chinese while not offering a different language option! !OnlyInChina #mozillaJul 17 05:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Discovery: "Food is one of Singapore's obsessions". Just Singapore's? The same in China! Not the weather, it is all about food... every day!Jul 17 05:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] again the Ya Kun Kaya toast...Jul 17 05:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Open Source multimeter design: http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3978.msg54271Jul 17 06:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] virtual @reality, how is this going?Jul 17 06:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] woohoo... finished all paid activities *phew*. also finished a very simple pomodoro timer for the #n950 and qmlviewerJul 17 08:04
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oiaohmhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/microsoft-outlines-vision-of-the-future-and-it-disturbs-me  I know the normal no zdnet but this one is lovey.Jul 17 08:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana if that's what the original sw does, and they didn't modify the software, AFAICT it's enough for AGPLv3Jul 17 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Traveling as a family with twins is a lot like I imagine a small traveling circus to be... T-40 minutes.Jul 17 08:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Lawsuit Accuses 70-Year-Old Retired Widow of Downloading #Porn via #BitTorrent http://tinyurl.com/6bt53ul #web #internet #swpats #extortionJul 17 08:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @ikrshnan "Happy Birthday to !Slackware !GNU !Linux" on !edirts - http://goo.gl/ZIAIw | !gnulinuxJul 17 08:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Former #Microsoft cloud chief resurfaces at #EMC http://zd.net/nBr7Oq #entryism #softwareJul 17 08:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @carlopiana ♻ @h_ingo Soon #swpats will reach their logical conclusion: Nobody is allowed to import smartphones into US, and nobody s ...Jul 17 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @juancarlospaco !Ubuntu powered robot gives quadripeligic his life back: http://t.co/bbAPKGHJul 17 08:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Belgian Newspapers Claim Retaliation By #Google After #Copyright Victory http://tinyurl.com/5r7fsad #failJul 17 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] the QtSDK for #n950 is a pain at times :-sJul 17 09:02
DaemonFChehJul 17 09:19
DaemonFC /home/ryan/Music/A Perfect Circle/Thirteenth Step/07-The Outsider.oggJul 17 09:19
*DaemonFC woke up to this in the credits of some movieJul 17 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] REFERENDUM NATIONAL PT. TRANSFORMAREA ROMÂNIEI ÎN REGAT - ROMÂNIA MONARHIE CONSTITUȚIONALĂ http://t.co/npppW #romania #monarchy #politicsJul 17 09:26
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DaemonFChttp://news.yahoo.com/sorry-murdoch-tells-uk-full-page-ad-171758557.htmlJul 17 09:27
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DaemonFCWe are truly sorry (that we got caught)Jul 17 09:27
DaemonFC:)Jul 17 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Android Still Slaughtering Apple and Microsoft http://tinyurl.com/67t4vj9 #android #microsoft #apple #mobile #windows #iosJul 17 09:27
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DaemonFCWe promise to never betray your trust again (if we think you'll find out)Jul 17 09:28
DaemonFChttp://news.yahoo.com/congress-seeks-debt-solution-obama-goes-public-140249415.htmlJul 17 09:29
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DaemonFCThe Republicans are trying to pass a constitutional amendment now Jul 17 09:29
DaemonFCthis just keeps getting betterJul 17 09:29
DaemonFCI've got a constitutional amendment to fix Social Security, make it unconstitutional for government to "borrow" from it and leave it holding treasury notes insteadJul 17 09:31
DaemonFCany guess how likely that one is? :)Jul 17 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 'culture of collusion' could just as easily apply to the MET & press, as politicians & big business, politicians & press http://is.gd/6QdGyhJul 17 09:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt280 Little girl, about four years old + "Dora the Explorer" toy guitar = fantastic day for everyone. #BestToyEverJul 17 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] my baby sister's bday is today, @lnxwalt280 but i suspect the dora guitar wouldn't cut it as she's a few decades older :)Jul 17 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] really, I'm not trying to make everyone go away, @cer @victriviaqueen ... i have to sometimes b/c i've zero willpowerJul 17 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] no problem ... sharing is great @lnxwalt280Jul 17 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Arm 1.4.3 is out (now with a relay setup wizard): https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2011-July/020849.htmlJul 17 09:47
DaemonFCIs there anyone with Spotify US invited?Jul 17 09:47
DaemonFC*invitesJul 17 09:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] emulator crashed several times, but here is a screenshot of my simple !Pomodoro timer for !MeeGo #Harmattan http://is.gd/7qTjcJJul 17 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Don't think logo s/b part of a trademark? A word/art combo seems ideal 4 branding. 'Course I don't hold with stormtrooper enforcementJul 17 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] took about 60 minutes to get done... most time was spend on waiting for the emulator and fixing the #harmattan application partJul 17 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] My torrents won't start. Bah!Jul 17 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] and yes, my laptop's CPU runs hot...Jul 17 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva I agree, nothing wrong with copies. I couold buy TM idea id it is a way to expose fraudulent passing off of copies as originals.Jul 17 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm inclined to think TM shouldn't be used as enforcement at all @lxoliva ... it is easier today than ever to spread the word abt wrongdoingJul 17 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva if someone fakes a TM to defraud customers, exposing it online allows society 2 discipline wrongdoer by ceasing to do business withJul 17 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @richslxhJul 17 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kuro Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. - Friedrich Nietzsche !q !humor !identiverseJul 17 10:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I don't think that is as funny as it is true @kuro "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."~ Friedrich Nietzsche !qJul 17 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva Now the public can express displeasure online & censure wrongdoers (viral) eg News of the World & Cooks Source http://ur1.ca/2abanJul 17 10:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] yes indeed. i am up way past my bedtime :) @richslxhJul 17 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Accidentally bought bootleg DVD on ebay once, didn't know when I bought it but guessed when I saw it shipped from phillipines @thistlewebJul 17 10:17
DaemonFChttp://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/07/sarah-palin-movie-debuts-to-empty-theater-in-orange-county/241983/Jul 17 10:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Instinctul construcției http://tinyurl.com/64vg69y #romania #constructions #monarchyJul 17 10:24
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Microsoft-contributes-a-lot-of-changes-to-Linux-kernel-3-0-1280528.htmlJul 17 10:27
DaemonFCflame bait for schestowitzJul 17 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Microsoft, co-author of the Linux kernel http://b1t.it/rGFJul 17 10:27
schestowitzhyoer-v?Jul 17 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Carl Bernstein: Murdoch’s Watergate? http://tinyurl.com/62b8fpe #mobile #bigbrotherJul 17 10:29
DaemonFCschestowitz: yeahJul 17 10:30
DaemonFCthey're careful not to touch anything elseJul 17 10:30
schestowitzso who cares?Jul 17 10:30
DaemonFCapparently the people writing articles about itJul 17 10:31
schestowitzit's something we wrote about beforeJul 17 10:31
schestowitzThe H is baitingJul 17 10:31
DaemonFCit links to network world where they call it a "historic" contribution to LinuxJul 17 10:32
DaemonFCeven though the only thing that driver does is make it work better as a guest under Windows and Hyper-VJul 17 10:32
DaemonFCit does absolutely nothing for the typical userJul 17 10:33
DaemonFCit doesn't improve the kernel at allJul 17 10:33
DaemonFCthe only reason it got in was because of people like Greg Kroah Hartman Jul 17 10:33
DaemonFC:)Jul 17 10:33
DaemonFCschestowitz: the hyperv crap isn't included in Fedora at allJul 17 10:35
DaemonFCmostly because they have a policy against building staging driversJul 17 10:35
DaemonFCthe only exception seems to be for nouveau which is reasonableJul 17 10:35
nj3maAgree with DaemonFCJul 17 10:36
DaemonFCanything under the staging tree taints your kernel if loaded and is there because of bad quality and the hope it will get betterJul 17 10:36
DaemonFC(the improtant staging modules are available as kmods in RPM Fusion)Jul 17 10:36
nj3maMicrosoft are taking care of their business, that is allJul 17 10:37
DaemonFCwell, there's nothing wrong with companies submitting code to make Linux work better with their own products, it's typical in factJul 17 10:37
DaemonFCbut most of them aren't suing it at the same timeJul 17 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !InconstantMoon serialization segment posted for today http://ur1.ca/4pz6n !SelfPubJul 17 10:37
oiaohmDaemonFC: remember MS had the idea they would not have to code the hyper-v stuff.Jul 17 10:38
oiaohmthat they could just dump it on the comunity.Jul 17 10:38
oiaohmThat did not turn out too good.Jul 17 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ye Gods, bright sun on wet ground makes for a lotta blindy reflecty issues through the window :/Jul 17 10:39
DaemonFCthat was funnyJul 17 10:39
DaemonFCthey didn't come back and deal with it until the driver people were threatening to get rid of itJul 17 10:39
nj3ma Microsoft has a community?Jul 17 10:39
oiaohmnj3ma: that was the problem.Jul 17 10:40
DaemonFCnot reallyJul 17 10:40
oiaohmnj3ma: they have had to pay full time developers to work on hyper-v support in Linux.Jul 17 10:40
DaemonFCjust the Novell employees if you consider them communityJul 17 10:40
oiaohmDaemonFC: the Novell employees did not lift a single finger to help hyper-vJul 17 10:40
DaemonFCroles tend to get blurred sometimes when a person is working at a company that deals with Linux and also takes on roles in their personal capacityJul 17 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning & goodnight @malokiJul 17 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] <fading fast (good to be sleeping b4 the birds wake up in open window weather)Jul 17 10:41
oiaohmOk about the closest Novell staff got was giving  MS a warning provide staff or have driver removed.Jul 17 10:41
oiaohmDaemonFC: Not at microsoft.Jul 17 10:41
nj3maStill surprised anyone would virtualize Linux on Windows. Daft.Jul 17 10:41
oiaohmDaemonFC: their employment contracts sux.Jul 17 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] g'night @kevie (kiss the weeguy on top of his fuzzy little head for me)(i miss fuzzy little heads... my wee guy's hair is longer than mine)Jul 17 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ....babbling... must pack it in ;DJul 17 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RoyalMail cutbacks for #PostmanPat means no van - new era political reboot - #PostmanPete & his poor blistered feetJul 17 10:42
oiaohmnj3ma: Yes as darft as telling me not to use LaTex for multi language manual production.Jul 17 10:43
DaemonFCnj3ma: There's more demand to virtualize Windows on LinuxJul 17 10:43
DaemonFCas a way to migrate off of Windows smoothlyJul 17 10:43
oiaohmYet MS does not want that.   DaemonFCJul 17 10:43
DaemonFCthat's what scares MicrosoftJul 17 10:43
oiaohmHave you seen MS new plan.Jul 17 10:43
schestowitz[10:33] <DaemonFC> the only reason it got in was because of people like Greg Kroah Hartman Jul 17 10:43
oiaohmTo make current Windows 7 interface classic.Jul 17 10:43
nj3maDJul 17 10:43
schestowitzHe works for Novell and Microsoft paid NovellJul 17 10:43
oiaohmAnd to try to make WP7 like interface everywhere.Jul 17 10:44
DaemonFCyeah, the new Windows 8 interface is awfulJul 17 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Pace of Growth of Mobile #Linux http://ur1.ca/4pz87Jul 17 10:44
DaemonFCI've used itJul 17 10:44
DaemonFCit's....badJul 17 10:44
DaemonFCMicrosoft intentionally leaks internal builds of everythingJul 17 10:45
DaemonFCit gets the "news" flowingJul 17 10:45
DaemonFCpeople get all gooey inside thinking they're not supposed to have itJul 17 10:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #PostmanPete should be twice the frame rate too, so he's always walking fast, with regular calls on his phone from the boss demanding updateJul 17 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The H plays along with the Microsoft propaganda about 'helping Linux' while suing it. This was caused by Greg Kroah Hartman (MS paid Novell)Jul 17 10:46
DaemonFCoiaohm: if it stays like it is, I predict most people will use the "classic" interfaceJul 17 10:46
DaemonFCand that's not much different than Windows 7Jul 17 10:46
nj3maI virtualize Windows on Linux myself. My cousin's learning Accounting packages for workJul 17 10:46
oiaohmDaemonFC: Historically MS does something to ruin the classic interface.Jul 17 10:47
DaemonFCyou mean like how Vist'a Windows 200-ish interface looked ugly and clunky and made your eyes bleedJul 17 10:47
DaemonFCand looked nothing like Windows 2000 at all :)Jul 17 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #PostmanPete would always have new people to meet, as his round gets bigger and bigger and bigger, where it's all just scenery & obstaclesJul 17 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some idiotic stalker has just started posting to the Net as "Glen Schestowitz". He's a fake, ignore/filter that.Jul 17 10:47
DaemonFC*Vista'sJul 17 10:47
nj3maVista was an epic fail Jul 17 10:48
nj3maNobody around here uses it. Companies paid to downgrade to XPJul 17 10:49
DaemonFCyeah, you got to choose SLOW (AERO), UGLY (NO AERO), or REALLY UGLY (NO AERO / "CLASSIC")Jul 17 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #PostmanPete's boss could be an automated system that's regularly down, where he can't get a signal to reply that oftenJul 17 10:49
DaemonFCbut any option was still much slower than XPJul 17 10:49
DaemonFC:)Jul 17 10:49
DaemonFCI have a feeling they made their non-AERO UIs ugly on purpose to punish people who tried to get out of buying a brand new GPUJul 17 10:50
DaemonFClike, people who only use office software....why do they need a new GPU?Jul 17 10:50
oiaohmDaemonFC: Its not like MS appears to learn from their mistakes.Jul 17 10:51
DaemonFCso the don't get ugly UI that makes your eyes bleedJul 17 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #PostmanPete could have a regular segment & guessing game on where he dumps the junk mail he keeps getting abuse for deliveringJul 17 10:51
oiaohmI bet we will have particular applications that need the new interface or will not run.Jul 17 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] could be an environmental message; someone convincing Pete to recycle, not dump unwanted #JunkMail but he has to pretend it's deliveredJul 17 10:52
DaemonFCyou mean like how IE used to be optional but there was no way to install the new Office without getting it?Jul 17 10:53
DaemonFC:)Jul 17 10:53
DaemonFCthen eventually Windows just came with it and there was no avoiding itJul 17 10:53
oiaohmDaemonFC: If you want horid you should try running classic mode on windows 95Jul 17 10:56
oiaohmDaemonFC: Purely did not function like windows 3.11Jul 17 10:56
nj3maYea, why? #GPUJul 17 10:57
DaemonFCyou mean use program manager?Jul 17 10:58
nj3maI am just I never have to use MS AnythingJul 17 10:58
DaemonFCnj3ma: desktop compositing on Windows is a way to push more hardware salesJul 17 10:58
oiaohmDaemonFC: Yep you could switch the shell back to program manager.Jul 17 10:59
DaemonFCtheir compositor is such a pig that it refuses to run at all on most hardware that would work fine with compiz or kwinJul 17 10:59
oiaohmTo be trueful Linux video stack suxsJul 17 10:59
oiaohmAnd items like compiz and kwin should not have worked.Jul 17 10:59
DaemonFCit sucks way worse with proprietary driversJul 17 11:00
DaemonFCthey're faster but they bring in a lot of bugsJul 17 11:00
oiaohmYep old DRI 1 tech.Jul 17 11:00
oiaohmSooner the closed source drivers bite the bullet and become modern the better.Jul 17 11:00
DaemonFCI say that as I sit here with FGLRX loadedJul 17 11:01
DaemonFC*sigh*Jul 17 11:01
DaemonFCthanks to software patents and limited developers, the free driver isn't gaining on FGLRX as quickly as I'd prefer it toJul 17 11:01
DaemonFCit does work well enough that if you don't play lots of games, it works fineJul 17 11:01
oiaohmsoftware patents have been major annoyances.Jul 17 11:02
DaemonFCyou install FGLRX you get the opposite problemJul 17 11:02
DaemonFCit's really fast, but nothing works quite rightJul 17 11:02
nj3maJust glad*Jul 17 11:02
oiaohmnj3ma: I am gladJul 17 11:02
DaemonFCit's like there is no right thing to do with Linux graphics driversJul 17 11:03
DaemonFCthe free ones are slow, and the proprietary ones fuck everything upJul 17 11:03
oiaohmnj3ma: Design flaw 1 of DRI 1 is that is only designed for 1 opengl application at a time.Jul 17 11:03
oiaohmNow that was a major screw up.Jul 17 11:03
DaemonFCso why can I use compositing and a 3d game and nothing bad happens?Jul 17 11:04
DaemonFCor VLC with OpenGL video outputJul 17 11:04
oiaohmReally Luck.Jul 17 11:04
oiaohmI truly do mean luck.Jul 17 11:04
DaemonFCwell why does it almost always work fine?Jul 17 11:04
oiaohmThe issues in DRI 1 design that are flaw are race conditions.Jul 17 11:04
oiaohmSo as long as everything happens in the right order by luck nothing goes wrong.Jul 17 11:05
oiaohmOf course one day that will not happen.  DaemonFCJul 17 11:05
oiaohmThen one of many strange things happen.Jul 17 11:05
oiaohmFunniest being that everything is still appearing to be working but you cannot create any new windows.Jul 17 11:05
DaemonFCnever had that happenJul 17 11:06
oiaohmBecause infact the opengl stack has completely stopped allocating new memory.Jul 17 11:06
oiaohmIts about a one in 100 million by natural.Jul 17 11:07
oiaohmBut when you know exactly where to push and how.Jul 17 11:07
oiaohmIt becomes a true 100 percent outcome.Jul 17 11:07
oiaohmIt screwed up ATI and Nvidia closed source drivers for Linux the same way.Jul 17 11:07
oiaohmAll commands to trigger it are perfeclty to standard opengl.Jul 17 11:08
oiaohmDaemonFC: You would have seen the one when the opengl goes completely off line and you end up with the black screen of death?Jul 17 11:09
oiaohmDaemonFC: and I guess you would ahve also seen where the rendering goes nuts.Jul 17 11:10
oiaohmAs they are more common.Jul 17 11:10
oiaohmIe lower problity to trigger.Jul 17 11:10
DaemonFCI haven't had those either Jul 17 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Urgh. 1st ep of new #Torchwood; Russell T. Davies returns to box-ticking hackwork. A disappointment after Children of Earth.Jul 17 11:11
DaemonFCthe only problems I've had with the FGLRX driver are specific to certain programsJul 17 11:11
DaemonFCit used to really have trouble dealing with WINEJul 17 11:11
DaemonFCat one point, the WINE developers said it was more likely ATI's fault when you had problemsJul 17 11:12
DaemonFCand recommended Nvidia cardsJul 17 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Audiocast show notes are out http://ur1.ca/4pzdx TechBytes Episode 55: Google Gets All the Attention http://ur1.ca/4pzdyJul 17 11:12
DaemonFCoiaohm: AMD had cleared up all the really nasty FGLRX issues I've had Jul 17 11:14
DaemonFCthe only things left wrong with it that I've noticed are when you try to use OpenGL compositing in Firefox Jul 17 11:15
DaemonFCor some slight performance problems with kwin in KDE 4.7 if you force it to use the OpenGL 2 backendJul 17 11:15
DaemonFC(which can be fixed by turning off vsync)Jul 17 11:15
DaemonFCthe Firefox one is the weirdest Jul 17 11:16
DaemonFC"Warning: Catalyst driver isn't supporting GL_ARB_robustness extension, so it is possible that some malicious site could use it to perform DDOS attack on your graphic card,"Jul 17 11:19
DaemonFClolJul 17 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Plus [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/09d2m.jpgJul 17 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Any good book for startup/freelancers ??Jul 17 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @schestowitz Plus [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/09d2m.jpgJul 17 11:19
DaemonFCnothing about their driver suggests it is robust to me :)Jul 17 11:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] Any good book on startups/freelancers ??Jul 17 11:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good fun Sunday afternoon with Akhil and HakBeng - thanks for coming over. Alot of topics and we still did not solve world hunger!Jul 17 11:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Freedom of speech in the age of WikiLeaks http://t.co/RnqQ3R6Jul 17 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @michuk: Abolishing software patents would likely increase economic growth (while killing a few vulture companies en route)Jul 17 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Los Reguladores de EE.UU./Canadá Autorizan al Cartel de Patentes Hostiles a Linux http://ur1.ca/4pzhl EN: http://ur1.ca/4p1qm #swpatsJul 17 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #EdMiliband may be accidentally promoting !lo soon, with calls for "new media, new rules" over the #NI #NOTW #Murdoch scandalJul 17 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Los Simpatizantes de Microsoft Fantasean a Propósito de #swpats Como Vaca de Efectivo http://ur1.ca/4pzjs EN: http://ur1.ca/4p8mzJul 17 11:51
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/78981947Jul 17 11:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to best choose hardware for #Linux http://ur1.ca/4pzln how to choose what worksJul 17 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @whirli: christians should "resist the green dragon" http://bit.ly/r6App3 unbelievable! #atheismJul 17 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UGR Linux: #Ubuntu #Gnome Remix project http://ur1.ca/4pzm1 interesting one for sure...Jul 17 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Howard County Library and Ubuntu #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/4pzmh computers were in fact still using Ubuntu."Jul 17 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] you, Sir, just made my day! RT ♻ @mstepniowski: I had to share this (@googleplus) http://t.co/sDEOMwhJul 17 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who needs engineering? http://ur1.ca/4pzmqJul 17 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @greve oh my... One @lilbernie is hard enough as it is, can't imagine how it must be exhausting with the twins :-)Jul 17 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Weekend with Kongoni 2011 http://ur1.ca/4pzn2 "My experience with this new CD was a bit worrisome at the beginning."Jul 17 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The !FSF about Free Games http://ur1.ca/4pufd #fun #games #freedomJul 17 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Slackware Turns 18 http://ur1.ca/4pznf "it was distributed under 24 disks (yes, floppy disks) and it only has two series, A and X."Jul 17 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] At last, the Bird became the #Thunderbird http://ur1.ca/4pzpt after tough experiences with #Firefox 5 (plugins), stay with 3.x? #mozillaJul 17 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Debian 7 might come in a !GNU #Hurd version http://ur1.ca/4pzqc "Hurd on the other hand is something you might not be aware of."Jul 17 12:32
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schestowitzHeh. ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐.Jul 17 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just noticed a worrying bug in #KeePassX it doesn't always correctly store the pass it generates, I had to compare the auto install emailJul 17 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 25 char random string pass, it "forgot" a single char 5 in from the end, no wonder it kept telling me "wrong login info"Jul 17 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @bencnn: Photo from downtown #zintan: no one has defaced this colonel's likeness. #Libya #Feb17 http://t.co/1Hu3y6QJul 17 12:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh how did you add the sixgun hard link to the #FluxBB forum?Jul 17 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh it's ok I found itJul 17 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PapugLinux #GNU #Linux 11.1 is Released http://ur1.ca/4pzv3Jul 17 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva bingo. so long as the customer knows what they are getting.Jul 17 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] New blog post @ http://dennis-blog.appelon.net about skatingJul 17 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @firusvg "A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open Windows." -- Linus Torvalds !q /via @piratskapartijaJul 17 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] I'm VERY unhappy and nervous about the absence of system-config-bind in #RHEL6 (for the INITIAL, default setup). !fedora !centos !rhelJul 17 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Firefox Is Going 64-Bit: What You Need To Know http://ur1.ca/4pzqx "are you ready for a 64-bit Firefox?"Jul 17 13:54
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DaemonFChttp://www.conceivablytech.com/8455/products/firefox-is-going-64-bit-what-you-need-to-knowJul 17 14:08
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DaemonFC"It’s not like we haven’t had any 64-bit browsers so far. There has been a 64-bit version of IE9 and there are 64-bit versions of Firefox developer builds"Jul 17 14:08
DaemonFCactually, there were x86-64 builds of IE 6Jul 17 14:09
oiaohmReallyJul 17 14:09
DaemonFCand Itanium builds of IE going back to version 5Jul 17 14:09
oiaohmItanium is not x86-64Jul 17 14:09
DaemonFCI know thatJul 17 14:09
DaemonFCbut it is a 64-bit CPUJul 17 14:09
DaemonFC:)Jul 17 14:09
oiaohmIts IA-64Jul 17 14:10
DaemonFCWindows XP had an X86-64 edition that came with IE 6Jul 17 14:10
oiaohmalso you need to look closer at what people call x86-64 builds of IE6Jul 17 14:10
oiaohmIts about 80 percent 32 bit.Jul 17 14:10
oiaohmThat is why 64 bit plugins and active x controls did not have to be released for it.  DaemonFCJul 17 14:11
DaemonFCI don't get why Adobe seems to have so much trouble recompiling FlashJul 17 14:11
DaemonFCand yes, you do need 64-bit plugins for 64-bit IEJul 17 14:11
DaemonFCup until recently, Flash didn't even work on itJul 17 14:11
oiaohmNoJul 17 14:11
oiaohmYou just need the plugin to say its 64 bit compadible and offer a wow interface.Jul 17 14:12
oiaohmYes I had to port a plugin to be IE 64 bit compadible yes it insane.Jul 17 14:12
DaemonFCso little of what they do makes senseJul 17 14:13
DaemonFCwell, it makes sense to themJul 17 14:13
DaemonFCthe bugs are from rushing to get a product outJul 17 14:13
DaemonFCand the bloat is to help Intel sell more new processorsJul 17 14:14
DaemonFC:)Jul 17 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[infobeautywomen/@infobeautywomen] This Beautiful Skin Secrets of Kate Middleton http://bit.ly/ph32AW #beauty !daylime !news !wikileaksJul 17 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] "You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss "http://paulgraham.com/boss.html - hmmmmJul 17 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Final Ruling Confirms ‘Pirate’ Sites Act Lawfully in Spain - http://feed.torrentfreak.com/~r/Torrentfreak/~3/BBsinoS6xBQ/Jul 17 15:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hey! There's already a Google+ IRC channel on Freenode That was quick. Doesn't have many denizens at the moment... http://b1t.it/rLHJul 17 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jordigh/@jordigh] !Octave code sprint yesterday was lovely. Let's do this every month!Jul 17 15:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'd never heard the phrase, "on a tear" before I read Larry Page using it here. I wonder how common it is. I'm ... http://b1t.it/rLSJul 17 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] "Help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who _deserve_ it." #HarryPotterJul 17 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] A must read for why I won't vote for Tony Tan for SG President. #sgpolitics #fb http://ur1.ca/4q0xyJul 17 16:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pretty cool graphic of people migtation http://www.peoplemov.in/ #fbJul 17 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] remote web inspector by @nitobi for !phonegap is amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af_udB9XTZI start at around 15:00 #velocityJul 17 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good afternoon !identiverseJul 17 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] too hot 4 either jazz fest (i might've liked Denzel Sinclaire (sposed 2 be similar to NKC) but website locked. Thankfully there's !jamendoJul 17 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hacking for Christ: !Mozilla's Competitive Advantages http://ping.fm/9kUd0Jul 17 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Street Fighter fans (90s geeks like me) would love this [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/v0JMi.jpgJul 17 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Considered buying #Linutop 2, but it's too expensive http://ur1.ca/4q1d3 could buy an OS-less dual-core for same price http://ur1.ca/4q1d6Jul 17 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It feels like winter this weekend in Manchester. Some more posts about #swpats will be published tomorrow. We are winning, like w/ B.Novell.Jul 17 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @pete: In 12 hours I will be 30 years old. --- ..... Congratulations?Jul 17 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz What I mean is a logo that functions as a signature ... like "signed by the artist" I don't mind knock-offs so long as not fraudulentJul 17 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh yeah I found it, in the admin > options, there's a custom menu additionsJul 17 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz i probably said it wrong: if Tom uses Dick's TM to fool customers into thinking what he manufactures was manufactured by dick = fraudJul 17 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Sorry, I meant copies manufactured by someone else, not the original maker.Jul 17 18:19
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schestowitzHm...Jul 17 18:48
schestowitzLaporte worked for The Site, MSNBCJul 17 18:48
schestowitzWent to Yale 1973 ... about 40 years agoJul 17 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @tekk TM is ok when it serves to let a customer know who he is dealing with. not ok when used to prevent competing products by others. ??Jul 17 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] yes, and then maybe law enforcement could expend more effort in resolving crimes against persons @lxolivaJul 17 18:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good point @zotzJul 17 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva well, supposedly the designer/vendor will exert their quality control for their run.Jul 17 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Funny thing is that one-of-a-kind is often treated as 'quaint' inferior product not good enough to mass produceJul 17 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] hey !EOL, ya podeis seguir a @elotrolado, noticias de EOL oficialmente xDJul 17 19:12
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sebsebsebHiJul 17 19:14
cubezzzschestowitz, just curious, do you bother with facebook at all?Jul 17 19:20
schestowitzno, why?Jul 17 19:24
cubezzzeveryone on the planet seems to be on there nowJul 17 19:24
schestowitzcubezzz: I might get something like this http://buy.vivastreet.co.uk/computers+manchester-m26/dell-pentium-4-2-6ghz-cheap-desktop-pc--1-2gb-ram--warranty/14454413 this weekJul 17 19:24
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schestowitzretro I know..Jul 17 19:24
schestowitzFor a secondary terminakJul 17 19:24
schestowitz*terminalJul 17 19:24
schestowitzI wonder how kde4 would do on 0.5 gb of ram for just opening terminalsJul 17 19:25
schestowitzhave you tried it?Jul 17 19:25
cubezzzyesJul 17 19:26
cubezzzI thought it was too slowJul 17 19:26
schestowitzMy mate has just joind youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/SirMilhoJul 17 19:26
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schestowitzcubezzz: have youi made use of the scripts I sent you?Jul 17 19:27
schestowitzI have a way of listening to shows from thereJul 17 19:27
schestowitzIt would be good if you put your show there tooJul 17 19:27
schestowitzcubezzz: slow to star programs?Jul 17 19:27
schestowitzor kde4 too slow as in sluggisg?Jul 17 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz @lxoliva TM is for manufacturer / trade ... if manufacturer chooses to use sweatshop and/or produces inferior goods it reflects on TMJul 17 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz @lxoliva which is why TM is good for consumers; if manufacturer produces crap, or behaves badly, we know what to avoidJul 17 19:27
schestowitzI just need it to boot and no browser neededJul 17 19:28
schestowitzjust to sit there displaying stuff to meJul 17 19:28
cubezzzno, still messing around with recordmydesktopJul 17 19:28
schestowitzAnd offload space waste on my main workstation (abotu 4000px acrss)Jul 17 19:28
cubezzzfirst I need some sort of picture for the title pageJul 17 19:28
schestowitzcubezzz: what about running it past your show that's on the blog?Jul 17 19:28
schestowitzTo quickly put it on this network for people who searchJul 17 19:29
schestowitz?Jul 17 19:29
cubezzzyou mean just use a pic of blogger?Jul 17 19:29
cubezzzthat would workJul 17 19:29
schestowitzI don't advertise this anywhere like techrights.. it's supposed to be rechable to people who have never heard of the sites]Jul 17 19:29
schestowitzThey use youtueb search facilityJul 17 19:29
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schestowitzto find by topicJul 17 19:29
schestowitzhe, FaitherJul 17 19:29
Faitherhiya schestowitzJul 17 19:29
schestowitz*heyJul 17 19:29
schestowitzcubezzz: way back when I was preparing the bundle I thought about just tossing many linux-themed wallpapers in thereJul 17 19:30
schestowitzIn which case the show becomes a slideshow about LinuxJul 17 19:30
schestowitzBut for reasons I cannot quite recall I thought it would be too noisy and pointless, so I qrote some bash commands to just replicate the same frameJul 17 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz @lxoliva I used to wear Reebocks and I loved my friend's Black & Decker coffee machine but shoe quality plummeted & they lost me...Jul 17 19:31
schestowitzIt's tillex tensioable enoughJul 17 19:31
schestowitzBut the images can never fit the content without some hard work actually editing video and doing manual selectionJul 17 19:31
cubezzzI made some experimental videos with recordmydesktop which are promisingJul 17 19:33
cubezzzor you could just shoot a video of you on the computer, rather that trying to get the computer to record itselfJul 17 19:35
Faithergreenwall ftw ^^Jul 17 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz @lxoliva coffee machine I craved broke due to bad design under 2 months, retailer out of business, Black & Decker™ refused to replaceJul 17 19:39
schestowitzwhatzit?Jul 17 19:40
schestowitz!google greenwallJul 17 19:41
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Greenwall Foundation | http://www.greenwall.org/Jul 17 19:41
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Green wall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_wallJul 17 19:41
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - ELT Easy Green | http://www.eltlivingwalls.com/Jul 17 19:41
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Philly Green Wall | http://phillygreenwall.com/Jul 17 19:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] i bought from retailer not manufacturer, maybe if i fought i could have eventually won refund ... more trouble than worth @sanderschJul 17 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #badtypodayJul 17 19:46
Faitherschestowitz: I didn't catch all of your preivious conversation, but i fugured you wanted to shoot a video. Jul 17 19:48
Faitherschestowitz: I think it isn't called greenwallJul 17 19:49
Faitherschestowitz: more like green screen ^^Jul 17 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I never bought B&D again; i carefully avoid their trademark ... cost them LOTS of profit over 20 years b/c i am a tool user @sanderschJul 17 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Only two tickets left for !OggCamp: http://oggcamp11.eventbrite.comJul 17 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Markham: Mozilla's competitive advantages http://lwn.net/Articles/451909/rssJul 17 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @lwnnet Markham: Mozilla's competitive advantages http://lwn.net/Articles/451909/rssJul 17 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] #awesome: DuckDuckGo has a weather bang: !weather <zip-code>Jul 17 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Commissioner #PaulStephenson resigns from the #MET over #NOTW, no doubt with full pension & benefits http://is.gd/8eE6tXJul 17 20:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Please check out the sponsors at http://oggcamp.org - they make it possible for us to bring you this event for free! !OggCampJul 17 20:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Politicians are the same the world over; screwing over their own people at every opportunity http://is.gd/2Rop4q #Italy #BerlusconiJul 17 20:37
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schestowitzFrom: "Glen Schestowitz"Jul 17 20:41
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/903a678e4d43cc40/e2ba9d379a666a8eJul 17 20:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RUN - The UK is going bankrupt!!! All software companies are fleeing to the USA -   comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 263.21 KBJul 17 20:41
schestowitzThey know I'm against BeckJul 17 20:41
schestowitzWhat's with their smearJul 17 20:42
schestowitzThey make analogies that use notorious peopleJul 17 20:42
schestowitzEven if their inclinations are opposite of mineJul 17 20:42
schestowitzRight now I'm reviewing a scientific paper and scoring it to ensure junk science and claims don't qualifyJul 17 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is rpcutts with 77 dents!Jul 17 20:42
zoobabhiJul 17 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Awesome, fun night last night at the Bay Area Metal Fest. Today: house stuff. It's the rock n'roll lifestyle. :-)Jul 17 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @jonobacon I just had a vision of a movie title sequel "rock n troll 2: troll harder"Jul 17 20:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @afiestas Second personal plasma most hated bug fixed: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/101981/ , only one to go :)Jul 17 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @newbintraining: GET OFF MAH RAM *CHASES APACHE WITH A SHOTGUN*Jul 17 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @eebrah @newbintraining: GET OFF MAH RAM *CHASES APACHE WITH A SHOTGUN*Jul 17 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] I feel young again (installing redhat-5.2 and redhat-6.1 on an old Pentium III machine)Jul 17 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] chillin' to #Clapton http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY064qzZpns #BellBottomBlues live from #24NightsJul 17 22:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] You have an evident grudge against Diaspora. You're not nearly so hard on most projects for the things they do (e.g. StatusNet & VC).Jul 17 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #JoeWalsh rocks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7MHi2oyXm0 #nuffsaidJul 17 22:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‪Joe Walsh & Brian May - Funk #49 (Guitar Legends Sevilla '92)[HD]‬‏       - YouTube .::. Size~: 110.95 KBJul 17 22:16
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to MinceRJul 17 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh man, I need some coffeeJul 17 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Eye witness account from the Hight Court Appeal against Assange http://t.co/Pf8QOM8Jul 17 22:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #CatStevens #PeaceTrain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sjSHazjrWg #stonerchoons excellent under rated rhythm guitaristJul 17 22:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Ex Bulgarian Chief of Staff Probed as US Informer after Wikileaks revelations http://t.co/zwhwjuYJul 17 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NapoleonDynamite - The Animated Series Trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ0uUdbsIxY lolJul 17 22:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] mission accomplished: dumpe 28 units of Intel Series2 PCMCIA flash cards from the 1990ies using redhat-6.1 on a PIII 733Jul 17 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ChrisRea - #TheRoadToHell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZlWqVeLzg amazing slide guitarJul 17 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‪Chris Rea - The Road To Hell Full Version‬‏       - YouTube .::. Size~: 121.43 KBJul 17 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] www.funtoo.org is back online - use ninja2.funtoo.org until DNS is updatedJul 17 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #REM - #LosingMyReligion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if-UzXIQ5vw pure genius, I soooooo wish I'd have written thisJul 17 23:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #LosingMyReligion was the tune that just grabbed me by the throat, #MichaelStipe's performance is incredible, lyrically bendyJul 17 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I love #Stipe's invisible conducting / dancing in the video; bassline sounds like it's playing a different tune that sometimes syncs #classJul 17 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #LimpBizkit - #Rollin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yad_clT4T2Y&feature=related change of pace :D excellent riffJul 17 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] forums are back online too - DNS needs to update...Jul 17 23:24
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schestowitzLOL http://i.imgur.com/k7Rqy.jpgJul 17 23:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #ToneLoc - #FunkyColdMedina http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OP5EnaaYjQJul 17 23:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Damn, it quite late for http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110717 #sip_and_clickJul 17 23:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange July appeal updates http://t.co/3ycpelIJul 17 23:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Roachford - #CuddlyToy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMZYlTXLqiA funky shtuffJul 17 23:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the guitar & bass work on #CuddlyToy is awesome, perfect backing for #RoachfordJul 17 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks vs News Ltd: jail Murdoch, not Assange http://t.co/ZBNLZq1Jul 17 23:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] did I mention how awesome the guitar work on #CuddlyToy was? not sure I emphasised that enough #funkyashellJul 17 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update: http://t.co/oay3tDVJul 17 23:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] late 80's funk / pop from #Scotland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gxMvb9VrzY #HueAndCry #LabourOfLoveJul 17 23:47
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