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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Kids on the sex-offender registry: fuelling terror and ruining lives http://ur1.ca/4rssfJul 24 00:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kids on the sex-offender registry: fuelling terror and ruining lives - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 86.97 KBJul 24 00:05
schestowitzamarsh04: Ogara Previously, the district licensed Groupwise, an email and computer networking system from Novell, but on July 18, the plug gets pulled on that system and the district will move to Google for email and Microsoft for networking.Jul 24 00:09
schestowitzamarsh04: http://www.sys-con.com/node/1910165Jul 24 00:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US Antitrust Chief Leaving DOJ | SYS-CON MEDIA .::. Size~: 75.42 KBJul 24 00:10
schestowitzthis oneJul 24 00:10
schestowitzseems like she's suggesting IBM got inside accessJul 24 00:10
schestowitzi reckon pj might wish to knowJul 24 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @jpope: Solution found for those on #Fedora 15 attempting to install the #Google Music Manager. http://goo.gl/EDj8pJul 24 00:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jeremy Pope - Google+ .::. Size~: 69.01 KBJul 24 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Anonymous Releases Restricted NATO Document http://ur1.ca/4rsurJul 24 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Phone hacking: PM says James Murdoch has 'questions to answer' http://ur1.ca/4rsuvJul 24 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] A love letter to the space shuttle http://ur1.ca/4rsuwJul 24 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] FBI to contact Jude Law over phone hack claims http://ur1.ca/4rsuzJul 24 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Rupert Murdoch reveals demonic horns http://ur1.ca/4rsv2Jul 24 00:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anonymous Releases Restricted NATO Document - Slashdot .::. Size~: 147.18 KBJul 24 00:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Phone hacking: PM says James Murdoch has 'questions to answer' .::. Size~: 110.76 KBJul 24 00:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A love letter to the space shuttle  - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 45.59 KBJul 24 00:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - FBI to contact Jude Law over phone hack claims .::. Size~: 72.19 KBJul 24 00:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rupert Murdoch reveals demonic horns - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 38.15 KBJul 24 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fed Audit's Initial Report Reveals Trillions in Secret Loans http://ur1.ca/4rsv5Jul 24 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Senator Franken shames homophobic imbecile http://ur1.ca/4rsv8Jul 24 00:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fed Audit's Initial Report Reveals Trillions in Secret Loans - Slashdot .::. Size~: 177.8 KBJul 24 00:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Senator Franken shames homophobic imbecile - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 170.43 KBJul 24 00:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell Pres. @BarackObama: Stop doing business with businesses that discriminate against #gays & #lesbians - http://bit.ly/oYgIJ9 #p2 #lgbtJul 24 00:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tell President Obama: Stop doing business with businesses that discriminate against gays and lesbians. .::. Size~: 14.24 KBJul 24 00:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] How the fuck does someone this stupid become a security auditor? http://ur1.ca/4rt3hJul 24 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Our security auditor is an idiot, how do I give him the information he wants? - Server Fault .::. Size~: 123.19 KBJul 24 00:39
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/18/google_habit/Jul 24 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google: The one trick pony learns a second trick • The Register .::. Size~: 27.6 KBJul 24 00:44
schestowitz"It sells ads. And it clones other people's products" -mac asayJul 24 00:44
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schestowitzTHis site pretends to be about Application Development Trends http://adtmag.com/articles/2011/07/19/mono-xamarin-partner-attachmate.aspxJul 24 01:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mono's Future Clears: Xamarin Partners with Attachmate -- Application Development Trends .::. Size~: 70.78 KBJul 24 01:23
schestowitzWatch the topJul 24 01:23
schestowitzIt's 1105 MediaJul 24 01:23
schestowitzthe Microsoft networkJul 24 01:23
schestowitzAnd with something about VirtualisationJul 24 01:23
schestowitzTrying to lure developers into Microsoft's walled gardensJul 24 01:23
cubezzzyes, most likelyJul 24 01:24
cubezzzthey did it to me in the 80sJul 24 01:25
cubezzzbuy Microsoft Quick C for $99Jul 24 01:25
cubezzzI even bought Microsoft MASMJul 24 01:25
cubezzzyou can add proprietary OSes to big hair and rubik's cubes :)Jul 24 01:26
oiaohmcubezzz: I did worseJul 24 01:26
oiaohmcubezzz: I have a copy of visual basic for dos version 1.0 laying around here.Jul 24 01:26
cubezzzughJul 24 01:27
cubezzzto be fair, I also bought Lattice C for the AmigaJul 24 01:27
oiaohmNote visual basic for dos 1.0 was the only dos version of it.Jul 24 01:27
cubezzzso even then, I wasn't totally in Microsoft's wallsJul 24 01:27
oiaohmBefore that it was quick basicJul 24 01:27
cubezzzyesJul 24 01:27
cubezzzI liked Quick C better thoughJul 24 01:28
oiaohmAnd quick basic run faster than visual basic for dosJul 24 01:28
cubezzzwhat was the last one 4.5?Jul 24 01:28
oiaohmSo yes at that point I had aquired my first MS papaer weight.Jul 24 01:28
oiaohmQuick Basic 4.5 last one as far as I know.Jul 24 01:28
cubezzzwe are so much better off nowJul 24 01:29
cubezzzoiaohm, so what was your first exposure to Unix?Jul 24 01:29
oiaohmNot exactly Unix but my first exposure to Unix ideas was djgpp for dos.Jul 24 01:30
cubezzzVenix for me :)Jul 24 01:30
oiaohmThen after that run like dogJul 24 01:30
cubezzzway back in 1986Jul 24 01:31
oiaohmI moved to freebsdJul 24 01:31
oiaohmTo correct it was bsd back thenJul 24 01:31
oiaohmIe 1988Jul 24 01:31
cubezzz1988 was near the height of the Amiga eraJul 24 01:31
oiaohmThen by 1994 I had found LinuxJul 24 01:31
oiaohmLinux was already building faster than BSD so I jumped ship.Jul 24 01:31
cubezzzah, I still like FreeBSDJul 24 01:32
oiaohmAmiga really never took off in Australia or at least where I was.Jul 24 01:32
cubezzzoiaohm, I talk to some younger folks (>=25) Jul 24 01:32
cubezzzthey are getting back into AmigaJul 24 01:33
cubezzzand they're from Australia tooJul 24 01:33
oiaohmThe area I was c64 was kind popular but there were basically no AmigaJul 24 01:36
cubezzzcommodore was pretty strict about who could be a dealer when Amiga came outJul 24 01:36
oiaohmFew applesJul 24 01:36
oiaohmThen a few years latter everyone basically migrated to PC's.Jul 24 01:37
oiaohmAfter the nitendo wave hit.Jul 24 01:37
cubezzzApple II's weren't bad, just very expensiveJul 24 01:40
cubezzzI remember some of the early dealers actually sold commodore and apple bothJul 24 01:40
cubezzzEaton's and Radio Shack were the first places I actually could go to and buy a computerJul 24 01:41
cubezzzboth gone from Canada nowJul 24 01:42
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oiaohmcubezzz: at out age we understand software is a temp thing.Jul 24 02:34
oiaohmout/ourJul 24 02:34
cubezzzyesJul 24 02:35
oiaohmMost of the younger people have not seen a true competivie marketJul 24 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Definitely got the British version of Torchwood. Rather funny seeing naked male and female backsides cycling past on the screen.Jul 24 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "They want me to go to rehab, I said I won't go! " R.I.P Amy.Jul 24 02:52
SnitI started with an Apple II... then started learning Macs, DOS and Unix on the same day.Jul 24 02:57
SnitI am one of the few people who did not really have much of a already-know-that bias... I knew none of the three.  :)Jul 24 02:57
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oiaohmSnit: I started with a machine that was odd to start with a microbeeJul 24 04:00
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SnitI remember their logo... a beeJul 24 04:03
oiaohmClass of 20 with 8 of them. SnitJul 24 04:06
oiaohmIn year 6Jul 24 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lamm @mairin Gee, if only we could re-appropriate $ from the $3B we give #Israel to brutalize #Palestine & instead use on public #he ...Jul 24 04:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @larryrusswurm Why Shih Tzus are quieter than most small breeds of dog. #humour http://larryrusswurm.com/2011/07/16/why-shih-tzus-are ...Jul 24 04:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Shih Tzus Aren’t so Yappy «  The Many Rants of Larry Russwurm .::. Size~: 9.53 KBJul 24 04:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 yes i found out that blaise pascal is responsible for good friend sleep keeps ditching me. Now i have work out somethingJul 24 04:44
tessierI wish I had had an Amiga.Jul 24 04:55
tessierI was lucky enough to get an Apple IIc.Jul 24 04:55
tessierfor my first computerJul 24 04:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @beth4158 Woo hoo! RT @BreakingNews 1st gay couples legally wed at Niagara Falls, NY, largest state to sanction same-sex marriage - APJul 24 05:07
oiaohmhttp://www.osnews.com/story/24985/Fujitsu_Announces_Smartphone_Dual-booting_Symbian_Windows_7  Wonder how much longer people will fail to see the phone and desktop markets are merging.Jul 24 05:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fujitsu Announces Smartphone Dual-booting Symbian, Windows 7 .::. Size~: 30 KBJul 24 05:12
msb Is the techrights.org server being attacked again?  I'm having trouble connecting to it.Jul 24 05:17
oiaohmmsb it running perfectly fine from where I am.Jul 24 05:19
sebsebsebHeh heh nice one Google :D http://www.zdnet.com/blog/violetblue/google-plus-deleting-accounts-en-masse-no-clear-answers/567Jul 24 05:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers | ZDNet .::. Size~: 136.35 KBJul 24 05:19
oiaohmsebsebseb: Really google plus is on beta and I wonder how many are people who sneaked in after google said no more sign ups.Jul 24 05:19
sebsebseboiaohm: no it's notJul 24 05:20
sebsebsebit's, because people aren't using real namesJul 24 05:20
sebsebsebin fact sometimes they are, but Google thinks they aren'tJul 24 05:20
sebsebsebit's not that, aboveJul 24 05:20
msboiaohm: Thanks!  And now it's working for me too!Jul 24 05:21
oiaohmsebsebseb: The beta entry list for Google plus is real name.Jul 24 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @marjoleink (since it is after midnight, it is technically morning here too :)Jul 24 05:22
oiaohmsebsebseb: it could be both.Jul 24 05:22
oiaohmsebsebseb: ie people who sneaked in and people not using real names.Jul 24 05:22
sebsebseboiaohm: what you on about people who sneaked in? How an invite is needed?Jul 24 05:23
oiaohmsebsebseb: There was a bug.Jul 24 05:23
sebsebsebWhat bug?Jul 24 05:23
oiaohmsebsebseb: Where people were getting to the sign up page directly without a invite.Jul 24 05:23
sebsebseboiaohm: anyway I was thinking about getting a Google+ soon maybe, well if at least one of my invites works, I got twoJul 24 05:24
oiaohmsebsebseb: so there are a percentage with Google+ accouts who did not have invites.Jul 24 05:24
sebsebsebSo they are being silly and removing those?Jul 24 05:24
sebsebsebwhen a lot of them will have already used the site?Jul 24 05:24
sebsebsebas it's meant to be usedJul 24 05:25
oiaohmRule breaking is rule breaking.Jul 24 05:25
sebsebseboiaohm: anyway Google+ is hype, but may as well see what the hype is about and get one soonJul 24 05:25
sebsebseboiaohm: anyway these uninvited people, may have invited others to the site, so they might lose their account as well?Jul 24 05:26
oiaohmsebsebseb: since by the rules set out for the beta test google would be in there rights.Jul 24 05:26
oiaohmsebsebseb: to delete the ones that sneaked in by using a bug and everyone they invited.Jul 24 05:27
sebsebsebwell people won't be happy if their accounts get deleted like thisJul 24 05:27
sebsebseborJul 24 05:27
oiaohmIt would be a good thing to send a clear message the sites rules are law don't break them.Jul 24 05:27
sebsebsebthe name thingJul 24 05:27
oiaohmBefore the site gets larger.Jul 24 05:27
sebsebsebthe sites rules are law?Jul 24 05:28
sebsebseblaw?Jul 24 05:28
oiaohmThe valid name thing was a requirement in the beta  license.Jul 24 05:28
oiaohmSite rules include stuff you cannot do unless you would get google into trouble.  sebsebsebJul 24 05:28
sebsebsebyeahJul 24 05:29
oiaohmSo google being a rule following prick now will prevent problems in future.Jul 24 05:29
oiaohmIts all about setting the right tone.Jul 24 05:29
sebsebsebsure ok, but if they had a bug that let people sign up without invitesJul 24 05:30
sebsebsebthat's their faultJul 24 05:30
sebsebsebtest that an invite is needed, before putting the site on the webJul 24 05:30
oiaohmThe sign up page displayed the terms and conditions.Jul 24 05:30
sebsebseboiaohm: average person won't read the TOSJul 24 05:31
oiaohmThat include that you must report bugs and not exploit them at risk of account deleted.Jul 24 05:31
oiaohmIf caught exploiting.Jul 24 05:31
sebsebsebSouth Park had a great episode about people who don't read the TOS, and one that also made fun of AppleJul 24 05:31
oiaohmThis not reading the TOS is a very good reason for google to be a prick now.Jul 24 05:31
oiaohmSo the people who have not read the TOS do.Jul 24 05:31
sebsebsebok I see what you meanJul 24 05:32
sebsebseb,but the average Google+ user who gets their account deleted, won't just get itJul 24 05:32
sebsebsebif it's deleted like thisJul 24 05:32
oiaohmGoogle is smart the will do a press release in about 5 days explaining action.Jul 24 05:33
oiaohmSo the people who are upset can be made fell like real twits.Jul 24 05:34
sebsebsebHave you gotJul 24 05:34
sebsebsebone?Jul 24 05:34
oiaohmGoogle + account Not at this stage.Jul 24 05:35
sebsebsebWhy not?Jul 24 05:35
oiaohmI have 8 valid invites 3 from google staff.Jul 24 05:35
sebsebseboh Google staffJul 24 05:35
oiaohmI sometimes get invited in to see if I can break what they are working on.Jul 24 05:36
sebsebseboiaohm: oh you know Google staff?Jul 24 05:36
oiaohmMore they know me.Jul 24 05:36
sebsebsebWhy?Jul 24 05:36
oiaohmList of bugs I have found over the years.Jul 24 05:36
sebsebsebwith what?Jul 24 05:36
oiaohmgmail beta if you send a invite to yourself then used it you would double you invite numbers.Jul 24 05:37
sebsebsebohJul 24 05:37
oiaohmI am likely to do odd ball things just to see what happens.Jul 24 05:38
oiaohmThings coders would not think ever happening.Jul 24 05:38
sebsebsebohJul 24 05:38
sebsebsebokJul 24 05:39
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oiaohmsebsebseb: when you are a person like that you get some odd invites from time to time.Jul 24 05:40
oiaohmsebsebseb: its not only some google staff who send me invites.Jul 24 05:41
sebsebsebmany?Jul 24 05:41
sebsebsebor main?Jul 24 05:41
oiaohmThere are about 8 different companies who do.Jul 24 05:41
oiaohmsebsebseb: and its quite random.Jul 24 05:44
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oiaohmHave some other things todoJul 24 05:45
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sebsebseband I didn't want to chat to him more or much more anyway :DJul 24 05:46
sebsebsebat the momentJul 24 05:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk uh oh... let me go read it 80Jul 24 05:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk whew, no. Larry was in the second wave of siblings :) I'm the nice big sister who gave him Robert Heinlein books :)Jul 24 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lohang RT @beto Google wants to end anonymity online, as they do with privacy: http://ur1.ca/4rvhgJul 24 05:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "...people being suddenly frozen out of EVERYTHING, all their data & resources, not just...a few Google functions." http://ur1.ca/4rvhg #G+Jul 24 05:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk this is us a few years back: http://ur1.ca/2dtlsJul 24 05:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] have to use #Skype for a meeting... but does it also crash on startup for you? It starts to use a lot of IO (mostly disk?) and CPU and dies.Jul 24 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk ahem a few decades backJul 24 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @gomerx @speeddefrost People will like you regardless of your opinion. We're all messed up.Jul 24 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @hook European Parliament Study Confirms ACTA Must Be Rejected: http://is.gd/rIR0TTJul 24 06:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk you math people :)Jul 24 06:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I swear I didn't take your five minute mysteries book!Jul 24 06:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I can tell you're a math guy from all the way over here! I suspect your algebra teacher was inferior.Jul 24 06:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] One of Groucho Marx' famous lines was that he wouldn't belong to any club who would have him as a member. #G+Jul 24 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Stress can really skew results. I would imagine the programming skill set is similar to the algebra skill set.Jul 24 06:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk i'll bet that one day when you aren't looking it will suddenly make sense.Jul 24 06:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jacobwb @tekk You're a robot? Man, you're leagues ahead of @x11r5 :bJul 24 06:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: RT @jacobwb @tekk You're a robot? Man, you're leagues ahead of @x11r5 :b | 140 char limit: making posts better icne 2008Jul 24 06:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk since* was worrying about the very same limitJul 24 06:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] from here it sure looked like you were on top of the world, @cer ... sleep well, then (the world generally looks better when rested :)Jul 24 07:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] my back still hurts! have been too kind to help my neighbours with lifting some heavy stuffJul 24 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] #JossWhedon just announced !Drhorrible sequel today at !ComicCon, the world is a little bit brighterJul 24 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk it would be brighter still with a new #Firefly series.Jul 24 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Still far, but closer to #Javascript Jesusdom than ever before!Jul 24 07:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk ah, seems to have died. wondered what happened to itJul 24 07:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Easy like Sunday morningJul 24 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk !copyrightJul 24 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @gbraad: ... for me a DE is a way to organize my windows. I admit some stuff is missing, but maybe 'we' rely too much on that? #KISSJul 24 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Q: why do the artists who created Firefly require vast sums of money to be able to continue the series? A: to pay !copyright ransomJul 24 07:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sweet dreams @tekkJul 24 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @aurele Breaking: Feds indict Demand Progress's Aaron Swartz for downloading too many journal articles: http://t.co/SMY0rLp via @dema ...Jul 24 07:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Dear @twitter API, Fuck you very much!Jul 24 07:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk !copyright dictates joss and nathan must buy their art back from the corporation that elected to pull the plug on it,Jul 24 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @x11r5: @jacobwb you're like a manJul 24 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @fo0bar Just back from repair i am the true vine" (john 15:1Jul 24 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @x11r5 : @jacobwb you're like a man | jacobwb : @x11r5 Damn straight! Hell, more than like. < :DJul 24 08:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @speeddefrost: #depressed #pissedoff #fullofcaffeine I wonder if this is a good mix. Lets see.Jul 24 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] just, caffeine isn't forever, @speeddefrost ... one of you will need to sleep sooner or laterJul 24 08:12
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/79541759Jul 24 08:12
TechrightsBot-tr@qu1j0t3's status on Saturday, 23-Jul-11 20:15:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The media not only supplies attention, it sowed the seeds for the action, over past decade.Jul 24 08:12
schestowitzIt still does it and it makes it personal (Even minutes ago on the radio)Jul 24 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @palmerv0r ♻ @GradwellTweets We're looking for affiliate developers. Have you got skills and experience [..]. http://bit.ly/qvXgIV ^JJJul 24 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #GooglePlus Deleting Accounts En Masse http://t.co/ofnClaK This is an unacceptable risk. I won't ever be using this service.Jul 24 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] GNOME3 simplifies and IMHO creates a new model for development similar to Firefox's extensions.Jul 24 08:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] but we need a package format to install such extensions easily as Firefox does with .xpi (although still not easy for users / developer).Jul 24 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] GNOME3 extension packages should play nice for wrapping inside rpm or deb (for global use) and allow user-based installJul 24 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @schestowitz: ♻ @qu1j0t3: #GooglePlus Deleting Accounts En Masse http://t.co/ofnClaK This is an unacceptable risk. ...Jul 24 08:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @qu1j0t3: #GooglePlus Deleting Accounts En Masse http://t.co/ofnClaK < trying to enforce realnames and prevent commerce? /v: @schestowitzJul 24 08:20
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/79566713Jul 24 08:24
TechrightsBot-tr@Gerard Braad — 吉拉德 (gbraad)'s status on Sunday, 24-Jul-11 07:19:10 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @qu1j0t3: #GooglePlus Deleting Accounts En Masse http://t.co/ofnClaK < trying to enforce realnames and prevent commerce? /v: @schestowitzJul 24 08:24
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schestowitzanother reason for the invitesJul 24 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Microsoft Reconoció El Sistema de Patentes Está Quebrado Pero Felizmente lo Utiliza Para... http://ur1.ca/4rwhu EN: http://ur1.ca/4q8y7Jul 24 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Phone hacking: 7/7 victims fear police passed numbers to News of the World - http://bit.ly/q9iWCq UK police can clearly no longer be trustedJul 24 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @carlopiana It's hard to believe cyanogenmod 7.01 is a non-production version. It's rock solid.Jul 24 08:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @InjusticeFacts: Approximately $8.5 billion worth of diamonds a year come from African countries, enough to wipe out hunger in AfricaJul 24 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Meego != !MeeGo => When will the media get it right?Jul 24 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Phone hacking: 7/7 victims fear police passed numbers to News of the World - http://bit.ly/q9iWCq UK police can clearly no ...Jul 24 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eebrah @muungwana > https://www.twitter.com/InjusticeFactsJul 24 08:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Ferrari world design contest: http://is.gd/uPZ3sHJul 24 08:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Alignment of Interests in DNS Blocking - http://bit.ly/q95i6t Paul Vixie on why DNS blocking just won't work #censorshipJul 24 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @InjusticeFacts No deaths have been directly caused by marijuana use, The U.S. has executed 322 people for using & dealing it since 1982Jul 24 08:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Koch And #Exxon Pay To Write State Legislation Repealing Climate Change Laws - http://bit.ly/qZVXFc democracy imperilled (v @mpesce)Jul 24 08:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @wiselar: Some mind boggling facts @ http://twitter.com/InjusticeFacts cc @nj3ma @fredmanglis @kelzOKO @jargon @bigbrovar @DennisMungaiJul 24 08:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eebrah RT @InjusticeFacts No deaths have been directly caused by marijuana use, The U.S. has executed 322 people for using & dealing ...Jul 24 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Alignment of Interests in DNS Blocking - http://bit.ly/q95i6t Paul Vixie on why DNS blocking just won't work #censorshipJul 24 08:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Outgoing federal CIO warns of 'an IT #cartel' - http://bit.ly/oHn1r6 he's right - and it's just as bad in the UK #procurementJul 24 08:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: La USPTO Alejar a Empresas a Países Como Nueva Zelanda... http://ur1.ca/4rwkx EN: http://ur1.ca/4hqihJul 24 08:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @eebrah It's the "gateway drug" idea. If you do that you are sure to end up ODed on speedballs or crack. Real reason: too much money in itJul 24 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] When #Patents Attack - http://n.pr/nHRgyC great to see mainstream US journos waking up to danger of patents - and of Intellectual VenturesJul 24 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mjjzf @laurelrusswurm Essence: GPL claims more freedom because the license stays with derivatives. BSDs claim same because of freedo ...Jul 24 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @sanderschJul 24 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !InconstantMoon Chapter 58 serialization posted : short but sweet for Sunday ... http://ur1.ca/4rwn8Jul 24 08:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNOME & KDE Developers Go To Battle Over A Name http://ur1.ca/4rrr3 "GNOME 3.0 their control panel areas is called "System Settings""Jul 24 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] enjoy your coffee day @marjoleink ... *now* is when i am up past my bedtime... need to get to sleep before the birds begin to sing :OJul 24 08:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] so goodnight !IdentiverseJul 24 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Custom distro hammers hardware to detect system failures http://ur1.ca/4rwnw "Breakin is a distribution to run diagnostics on systems"Jul 24 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Dear @rapidshare, *Requiring* #javascript to use your service but not indicating so *is* a Dick move. #wankers!Jul 24 08:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Good night @laurelrusswurm or is it Good Morning?Jul 24 09:00
DaemonFChttp://news.yahoo.com/norway-police-arrive-90-minutes-firing-began-205033309.htmlJul 24 09:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] when will they face @reality and tell us that death sentence can be justified in these extreme casesJul 24 09:04
DaemonFChttp://www.journalgazette.net/article/20110724/NEWS07/307249947Jul 24 09:09
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DaemonFC"•The Indiana Department of Correction saved $5.2 million by negotiating a lower per diem paid to the outside provider of medical services to prisoners."Jul 24 09:10
DaemonFClooks like schestowitz's idea of going to prison for free medical care might not be so greatJul 24 09:10
DaemonFCyou may want to commit federal crimes instead :)Jul 24 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 3.1 Kernel Gains A Wiimote HID Driver http://ur1.ca/4rwqu support out of the boxJul 24 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jrobertson: the shooter will gain 1000s of times more attention than each youth he shot dead. #Norway. Sad but trueJul 24 09:10
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DaemonFC"reversions"Jul 24 09:11
DaemonFChehJul 24 09:11
DaemonFCgive everyone too much moneyJul 24 09:11
DaemonFCget $1 billion backJul 24 09:11
DaemonFCcongratulate yourself for the "efficiency" and pocket the PR for running for president laterJul 24 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @schestowitz: #Linux 3.1 Kernel Gains A Wiimote HID Driver http://ur1.ca/4rwqu support out of the boxJul 24 09:12
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schestowitzyeah, DaemonFCJul 24 09:13
schestowitzHow do you lke your health now, PUNK?Jul 24 09:13
DaemonFCyou notice where he's cuttingJul 24 09:13
DaemonFCeducationJul 24 09:13
DaemonFCand department of natural resourcesJul 24 09:13
DaemonFCmostlyJul 24 09:13
DaemonFChe's reduced IDEM to a skeleton crew and signed an executive order that they can't initiate investigations against suspected polluters who break state environmental lawsJul 24 09:14
DaemonFCthat's not new, he tossed that in last yearJul 24 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @Theekimutai: I use #hashtags on #mkz. Am gangsta like thatJul 24 09:15
DaemonFCapparently we also "saved" $30 million on firing case managers at the FSSA, so food stamp, unemployment, and medicaid claims take twice as long to processJul 24 09:15
DaemonFCthat's after we lost about a billion dollars when he tried to privatize it and hand it to IBMJul 24 09:16
DaemonFCIBM grossly mismanaged it and the legislature used a clause that let the state exit the deal because of IBM's fraudJul 24 09:16
DaemonFC(then they made no attempt to get the money back)Jul 24 09:16
DaemonFCschestowitz: Mitch Daniels also pushed for and signed a law to privatize some of our prisons Jul 24 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Review: (Bart Smit) TomTec 7" #Android 2.2 tablet: goedkoop speeltje voor geeks #linuxmagnlJul 24 09:19
DaemonFCit caused a prison riot that the guards were unable to control and the prisoners had control of the prison for over 12 hours before SWAT went in to get them under controlJul 24 09:19
DaemonFCthe only thing they could do was run like hell and slam the outer door shut behind themJul 24 09:21
DaemonFCthey were outnumbered almost 50 to 1Jul 24 09:21
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'd be more afraid of him as president than BushJul 24 09:21
DaemonFC(he was a Bush appointee to the Office of Management and Budget before he was our governorJul 24 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Update: ik ben nog een aantal dingen vergeten in mijn TomTech 7" review, moet ik nog even toevoegen (erg positief allemaal) ;-)Jul 24 09:24
DaemonFCschestowitz: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7369/photo0021iq.jpgJul 24 09:24
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DaemonFC:)Jul 24 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "A new life awaits you in the Off-world colony.The chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunities and adventure."Jul 24 09:30
DaemonFChttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Mitch_Daniels#Healthy_Indiana_PlanJul 24 09:31
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DaemonFCthat was the biggest waste of money everJul 24 09:31
DaemonFCI'd rather be uninsured than pay for health insurance that doesn't cover anythingJul 24 09:31
schestowitzthe wars are the bigest wasteJul 24 09:31
schestowitzIf the US wants to at least *start* paying back the debt, it should return the troops home from 1000+ basesJul 24 09:32
schestowitzOtherwise it will end up pawning a lot of US estate, handing it over to the lendersJul 24 09:32
DaemonFCnah, they'll attack retirement and medicare programs firstJul 24 09:32
schestowitz"will"?Jul 24 09:32
schestowitzThey already haveJul 24 09:32
DaemonFCthose only affect people that have worked their entire life Jul 24 09:32
schestowitzyou ain't seen nuthin' yetJul 24 09:33
DaemonFCright, I mean it's about to get much worseJul 24 09:33
schestowitzDaemonFC: you'll be a wage-slaveJul 24 09:33
schestowitzMaybe you should consider an exit optionJul 24 09:33
DaemonFCschestowitz: There was something I heard a while back about that "border fence" ideaJul 24 09:34
schestowitzthe US INCRASED the debt  while pretending to have compromised to pay it backlJul 24 09:34
schestowitzTruth is:Jul 24 09:34
schestowitzPeople are hurtJul 24 09:34
DaemonFCan idea that it was to keep us in, not to keep them outJul 24 09:34
schestowitzAnd the debt keeps growingJul 24 09:34
schestowitzNot the other way aroundJul 24 09:34
schestowitzThey just push away the note that says "you got cancer"Jul 24 09:34
schestowitzHoping that the Republicans (maybe Palin) will be the depressiomn days partyJul 24 09:35
schestowitzBush passed it to ObamaJul 24 09:35
schestowitzAnd Obama tries passing timeJul 24 09:35
schestowitz!google obama national debt limit 2011Jul 24 09:35
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Federal Debt Limit (Debt Ceiling) & Deficit Talks News - The New ... | http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/subjects/n/national_debt_us/index.htmlJul 24 09:35
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Analysis: Obama's dilemma with national debt limit- The New Haven ... | http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2011/07/09/news/doc4e187f842e0db189858703.txtJul 24 09:35
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Obama Faces Major Test In Debt-Limit Negotiations | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/25/obama-national-debt-2011_n_884523.htmlJul 24 09:35
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Debt Limit Option President Obama Can Use | http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2011/04/29/The-Debt-Limit-Option-President-Obama-Can-Use.aspxJul 24 09:35
DaemonFCit's not like he could act on his own if he wanted toJul 24 09:35
schestowitzit's nearly 15 trillion nowJul 24 09:35
schestowitzANd it's not as thougn borrowign 3 trillion more has raised the quality of life in the USJul 24 09:36
schestowitzIt ust delayed totoal collapse and hyperinflationJul 24 09:36
DaemonFCyeah, he keeps wanting them to hand him something that allows him to keep putting everything in the credit card until after November of 2012Jul 24 09:36
DaemonFCso we can pretend everything is peachy until thenJul 24 09:36
schestowitzThe PPJul 24 09:37
schestowitzProcrastination PartyJul 24 09:37
DaemonFChe's more concerned with getting re-elected than what will actually help the debt problemJul 24 09:37
schestowitzThen you'll have the New DealJul 24 09:37
DaemonFChe's playing kick the can with the entire US economyJul 24 09:37
schestowitzBush did tooJul 24 09:38
schestowitzObama got 8 years of Bush messJul 24 09:38
DaemonFCit's been going on for yearsJul 24 09:38
DaemonFCthere never actually was a surplus under ClintonJul 24 09:38
schestowitzThe Republicans ry blaming ClintonJul 24 09:38
DaemonFCit was fuzzy mathJul 24 09:38
schestowitzBut the debt in is days was dissimilarJul 24 09:38
schestowitzAlso, US popularity was higher around the worldJul 24 09:38
schestowitzThe Chinese keep quiet on those US war and keep borrowing, they're smartJul 24 09:39
schestowitzLater they know they can come and pick up the piecesJul 24 09:39
DaemonFCyeah, the worst thing we had done at that point was launch a cruise missile attack against a plant making pain medicationJul 24 09:39
DaemonFCat least, it was something like thatJul 24 09:39
schestowitzLike hedge fundies who give loans to poor nations so that they turn into slaves for generationsJul 24 09:39
schestowitzmoney is a measure of owned labourJul 24 09:39
schestowitzTHe US owes a _lot_ of labour right nowJul 24 09:40
schestowitzIt'll need to produce/export/extractJul 24 09:40
DaemonFCwell, what is up with those Chinese ghost cities?Jul 24 09:40
schestowitzRight now it's on a vacatiom somewhere burining money awayJul 24 09:40
DaemonFCthose have a creepy end of the world vibe to themJul 24 09:40
schestowitzNot reallyJul 24 09:40
DaemonFCif it's really going on, it's a bubbleJul 24 09:40
schestowitzThe population there decreasesJul 24 09:40
schestowitzAnd they build amazing new buildingsJul 24 09:40
schestowitzIf only I had the photos offhandJul 24 09:40
DaemonFCyeah, there was a report about it on DatelineJul 24 09:41
DaemonFCbrand new cities built for millionsJul 24 09:41
schestowitzThei cities often look more modern than the Big US CitiesJul 24 09:41
DaemonFCnobody living in them, and left to rotJul 24 09:41
schestowitzmaybe the lucky Americans can imigrate thereJul 24 09:41
schestowitzto the occupying nationJul 24 09:41
schestowitzNot the occupis oneJul 24 09:41
schestowitz*occupiedJul 24 09:41
DaemonFClike I said, it looked like one of those disaster movies Jul 24 09:41
DaemonFCend of the world, nobody left aliveJul 24 09:42
schestowitzit's not end of the worldJul 24 09:42
DaemonFCjust buildings everywhereJul 24 09:42
schestowitzjust human civilisationJul 24 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @N900_Drips: Put Your Music Shelf in Your Pocket - With Harmattan or N900CE http://bit.ly/qOUIJg #Nokia #N900Jul 24 09:42
schestowitzI had this chat the other dauJul 24 09:42
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schestowitzPeople viw the "world" from ther own perspective and eyesJul 24 09:42
schestowitzWe're wired this wayJul 24 09:42
schestowitzWe think the mind of ours never ceases to workJul 24 09:42
DaemonFCthe reason they gave was the PRC by law, demands a GDP increase every yearJul 24 09:43
schestowitzAnd that the universe vehavs only as we see itJul 24 09:43
DaemonFCso thye build empty cities just to create "activity"Jul 24 09:43
schestowitzUS GDP is 13.4 IIRCJul 24 09:43
schestowitzMaybe declining over tiemJul 24 09:43
schestowitzDidn't see historical dataJul 24 09:43
DaemonFCI can't believe such a stupid policy could exist Jul 24 09:43
schestowitzGermany's GDP is a quarter that of the USJul 24 09:43
DaemonFCthis isn't the ultra efficient Chinese government you hear aboutJul 24 09:43
schestowitzLet me check CHina'sJul 24 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @meegoblog: Linux in Cars, or Why Toyota Chose Freedom http://nowskip.to/pigMyeJul 24 09:44
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DaemonFCThe Chinese building ghost cities is bad news for the USJul 24 09:44
DaemonFCwhen that bubble bursts they could call their debtJul 24 09:44
DaemonFCand we can't pay itJul 24 09:44
DaemonFCnow that would cause a global economic meltdownJul 24 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Installed #Ubuntu 10.10 /w Macubuntu theme last night on my *real* desktop machine. Works like a charm ;-)Jul 24 09:45
schestowitzDid you know that China's GDP is almost the same as the US' now? And three times Germany's, 5 times the UK's...Jul 24 09:45
schestowitzJust dented itJul 24 09:45
schestowitzLet's ee Japan's..Jul 24 09:45
schestowitz[09:44] <DaemonFC> The Chinese building ghost cities is bad news for the USJul 24 09:46
schestowitzDataline is controlled pressJul 24 09:46
schestowitzI doubt they have much objective news that is horrid to the population's mindJul 24 09:46
schestowitzWow, Japan's GDP is twice that of the UKJul 24 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Did you know that China's GDP is almost the same as the US' now? And three times Germany's, 5 times the UK's...Jul 24 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie Packed Media Widget: to control Multimedia, SomePlayer & InternetRadioPlayer http://t.co/cy6TwIl http://t.co/gfMOROq #N900Jul 24 09:47
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schestowitzBut per capita it would be similarJul 24 09:47
schestowitzToday it will be hot here... 22 degreesJul 24 09:49
schestowitzFinally a sunny dayJul 24 09:49
schestowitzFirst since July 4thJul 24 09:49
DaemonFCit got up to 102 yesterdayJul 24 09:49
schestowitzAnd first hal;f of the day is still cloudtJul 24 09:49
DaemonFCI was outside grillingJul 24 09:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: good luck with that.. 38 degreesJul 24 09:49
DaemonFCknocking back beersJul 24 09:49
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 09:49
DaemonFCheheJul 24 09:49
DaemonFCI wasn't suffering much :)Jul 24 09:50
schestowitzgrilling BearMaanPig?Jul 24 09:50
DaemonFCyep, with plenty of bbq sauceJul 24 09:50
DaemonFCand Tabasco  Jul 24 09:50
schestowitzhow could you?Jul 24 09:50
DaemonFCB-)Jul 24 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @JayMontano: Nokia N950 Video Samples - Low Light http://t.co/ZfhrCiq #N950 #MeeGoJul 24 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @JayMontano: Nokia N9 - Preorder in Russia? http://t.co/dFZiDWY #N9 #MeeGoJul 24 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @schestowitz: Did you know that China's GDP is almost the same as the US' now? And three times Germany's, 5 times the UK's...Jul 24 09:50
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schestowitzSay, when China buys part of the US you could sell BearManPigJul 24 09:50
schestowitzIt makes several mealsJul 24 09:51
DaemonFCthey probablt own it all alreadyJul 24 09:51
DaemonFC*probablyJul 24 09:51
schestowitzBut it helps pay back the debt for the warsJul 24 09:51
schestowitzHere's what I LOVE about people's ignoranceJul 24 09:51
schestowitzThey think the wars are 'free'Jul 24 09:51
schestowitzLike some idiot who thinks the credit card is "FREE" moneyJul 24 09:51
schestowitzYou just pawn the fututeJul 24 09:51
DaemonFCit is until you open the statement next monthJul 24 09:52
schestowitzAll those wars will need ot be paid forJul 24 09:52
schestowitzThe Vetnam war had the US dollars unhinged from goldJul 24 09:52
schestowitzSo the backing of actual assets was removed around 2971Jul 24 09:52
schestowitzNixonJul 24 09:52
DaemonFC2971? Futurama Nixon?Jul 24 09:52
schestowitzAnd now you fight on even more frontsJul 24 09:52
DaemonFCand the headless body of Spiro Agnew?Jul 24 09:52
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 09:52
schestowitzyou know it was a typoJul 24 09:53
DaemonFCyeah :)Jul 24 09:53
DaemonFCactually, you're way off thoughJul 24 09:53
DaemonFCtry 1913Jul 24 09:53
schestowitzno, that's the Fed, no?Jul 24 09:53
DaemonFCthat tooJul 24 09:53
DaemonFCbut the process was started right awayJul 24 09:54
DaemonFCeach year the dollar was backed less and less by real assets and started representing collective debt insteadJul 24 09:54
schestowitz[09:51] <schestowitz> Here's what I LOVE about people's ignoranceJul 24 09:55
schestowitzWhen I'm born I get a ticket to the freak show --CarlinJul 24 09:56
schestowitzIn the US I get a front stage seat -- CarlinJul 24 09:56
schestowitzSit back and watchJul 24 09:56
schestowitzYou don't have a moirgage, do you?Jul 24 09:56
DaemonFCwell, if you look, massive year over year inflation didn't begin until we had the Federal Reserve Jul 24 09:56
DaemonFCno, I rentJul 24 09:56
schestowitzPeople plan ahead the payment based on a 30-year assumptionJul 24 09:56
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 09:56
schestowitzThose who bought got screwedJul 24 09:56
schestowitzLike my colleague... houses lost valueJul 24 09:57
schestowitzSo even if they default the house isn't worth much to coverJul 24 09:57
schestowitzThey overpaidJul 24 09:57
DaemonFCthere's mortgage plans out there that work around the "new laws" to bring back the housing bubbleJul 24 09:57
schestowitzBut in some countries the value of housing actually climbedJul 24 09:57
schestowitzPricing the buying out of reach, esp. for younger peopleJul 24 09:57
schestowitzThey should call it moragage scheme, not planJul 24 09:58
schestowitzIt's a plan for the bankerJul 24 09:58
DaemonFCthey bill it as "Most Americans move every 7 years anyway, so you get low fixed interest for 7 years, then it becomes adjustable and we can jack it up to anything we like once per year after that until we drive you out of the house, foreclose, and sell it all over again"Jul 24 09:58
DaemonFCwell, not quite like thatJul 24 09:58
schestowitzTo get your wages and later 'your' house tooJul 24 09:58
schestowitzPeople don't own the houses until they paid it allJul 24 09:58
DaemonFCbut I've edited my version to be more honest about what the goal isJul 24 09:58
schestowitzBut they think they can feel like thay doJul 24 09:58
schestowitzAnd then tell their friends, hiding the real fact about it being owned on a conditional basis, which is basically similar to rentJul 24 09:59
DaemonFCschestowitz: signing a 30 year mortgage to just seems insane Jul 24 09:59
schestowitzFor a couple, tooJul 24 09:59
schestowitzI know couples who do thisJul 24 09:59
DaemonFCgreat way to get trapped somewhere there might not be jobs next yearJul 24 09:59
schestowitzAnd then they're stuck togetherJul 24 09:59
DaemonFClet alone 30 years from nowJul 24 09:59
schestowitzThe only bond more powerful than marriage is a mortgageJul 24 10:00
schestowitzThe two MsJul 24 10:00
schestowitzBuy a house, pay for 3 :")Jul 24 10:00
DaemonFCmarriage is easier to get out ofJul 24 10:00
schestowitzthen you can lose the house tooJul 24 10:00
schestowitzand the spouse too, nobody owns any houseJul 24 10:01
schestowitzIt's like wages down the drain, only the banks benefit and take bonuses as a derivative from wagesJul 24 10:01
schestowitzHaving said that, house prices here sankJul 24 10:01
schestowitzNobody is buying, almos..Jul 24 10:01
schestowitzLast week I went to a restaurant with a friend and gazed out the windowsJul 24 10:02
DaemonFCthe people buying houses are the ones that have the cash to do it on handJul 24 10:02
DaemonFCflip themJul 24 10:02
DaemonFCand rent them outJul 24 10:02
schestowitzAdvertised on wooden fences were some PR-type photosJul 24 10:02
DaemonFClike my landlordJul 24 10:02
schestowitzAbout housing dreamJul 24 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @MediaMK: Yaani our gava doesn't even own the artworks on the National IDs? Sad, just sadJul 24 10:02
schestowitzSo I asked, are they setting up a building there?Jul 24 10:02
schestowitzThey got the ground all prepared for itJul 24 10:02
schestowitzThen my friend says, it has been like this for two yearsJul 24 10:02
schestowitzNo demand for buying, nobody has stated actually building sicne thenJul 24 10:02
schestowitzIn the US many coinstruction developments have been abandoned half-wayJul 24 10:03
schestowitzwhile some people remain homelessJul 24 10:03
DaemonFCschestowitz: It's sad really....there's this old high school in town from like the 1800sJul 24 10:03
DaemonFCreal sturdy buildingJul 24 10:03
DaemonFCdon't make them like that anymoreJul 24 10:03
schestowitzHere there are buildings that should be demolished (unused) around CIty Centre, but justifying the cost of just demolition is hard. Nobody would build there, despite the good locatiomnJul 24 10:03
DaemonFCso someone decided to turn them into apartmentsJul 24 10:04
schestowitzMy building was build just before the economic collapseJul 24 10:04
DaemonFCran out of money way before it got doneJul 24 10:04
schestowitzIt was compeleted just after the collapseJul 24 10:04
DaemonFCso then the US government got involved and gave them some stimulus moneyJul 24 10:04
DaemonFCand they got loans from banks tooJul 24 10:04
DaemonFCand now they're finishing itJul 24 10:04
DaemonFCthe sad part is there's streets in this town where 2/3rds of the houses are sitting vacantJul 24 10:04
schestowitzI have a friend who builds a estaurant and is running low on money in the processJul 24 10:05
schestowitzHe says his kids might need to help him pay back the loansJul 24 10:05
DaemonFCand they're building an apartment complex with room for almost 100 unitsJul 24 10:05
schestowitzHis kids are 1 year old... and one in his wife's tuimmyJul 24 10:05
schestowitzDaemonFC: why are they vacant?Jul 24 10:05
DaemonFCnot a good place to beJul 24 10:05
schestowitzwhere are the people?Jul 24 10:05
DaemonFCschestowitz: goneJul 24 10:05
schestowitzLaft the US?Jul 24 10:06
DaemonFCbank foreclosedJul 24 10:06
schestowitzMovedn in with mates?Jul 24 10:06
DaemonFCsitting there rottingJul 24 10:06
DaemonFClots of them are now condemnedJul 24 10:06
schestowitzMaybe those empty houses will be accomodated by those whom the States owes moneyJul 24 10:06
DaemonFCthe city just doesn't have the funds to knock them all downJul 24 10:06
schestowitzTHey could start their own colonies thereJul 24 10:06
schestowitzBuy them on the cheapJul 24 10:06
DaemonFCbrbJul 24 10:06
schestowitzRight after the USD collapsesJul 24 10:06
schestowitz[10:06] <DaemonFC> sitting there rotting  <<< Sounds like Huntington is the new Detroit thenJul 24 10:07
DaemonFCyeah, but much smallerJul 24 10:10
DaemonFCover the last 10 years, the town population shrank by roughly 17%Jul 24 10:11
DaemonFCaccording to the 2000 and 2010 censusJul 24 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Someone ought to change "batman" to "GNU/Linux" [IMG] http://ur1.ca/4rx2uJul 24 10:12
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schestowitzSo it's a goner?Jul 24 10:12
schestowitzMaybe they escape in summer when it's madJul 24 10:12
DaemonFCschestowitz: basically what has happened is, the jobs are mostly goneJul 24 10:15
DaemonFCpeople are resettling in areas that aren't as bad offJul 24 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Acer to deliver ARM notebook within nine days http://ur1.ca/4rx3p "will run Android 3.2 Honeycomb" #linuxJul 24 10:15
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DaemonFCand the people who stay tend to be on welfare or illegal immigrants or criminals, or old people living on Social SecurityJul 24 10:15
DaemonFCI'd say you have over half the population of this town right thereJul 24 10:16
DaemonFCI told my neighbor I'm glad I pay taxes so he can throw car parts on his lawn and sit out on his porch in his underwear drunk all dayJul 24 10:16
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 10:16
MinceRhttp://thenextweb.com/insider/2011/06/15/citigroup-hack-turns-out-to-be-simple-enough-for-your-grandmother-to-exploit/Jul 24 10:17
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MinceRthat's what m$'s flunkies call "security"Jul 24 10:18
DaemonFCthis is the one that got his back shaved by Dawn and then made sweet sweet rape to her in the bath tubJul 24 10:18
DaemonFCin the buttJul 24 10:18
DaemonFCI didn't ask if this was before or after she bit his "massive" dickJul 24 10:18
*DaemonFC throws up a little in his mouth every time he thinks about thatJul 24 10:18
DaemonFCoh schestowitz, good newsJul 24 10:19
DaemonFCmy landlord isn't leaving the business to the idiot asshole criminal sonJul 24 10:19
DaemonFChe's leaving it to his other sonJul 24 10:20
DaemonFCthe intelligent honest decent oneJul 24 10:20
DaemonFCyay!Jul 24 10:20
DaemonFCI told him I'd have to move out if it was the idiot and he said "I'm not leaving him with anything!"Jul 24 10:20
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 10:20
DaemonFChttp://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29/39908Jul 24 10:23
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DaemonFCC+? :PJul 24 10:24
DaemonFCthat's at least a solid B+Jul 24 10:24
DaemonFCif anything deserves a C it's Budweiser or CoorsJul 24 10:24
DaemonFCMiller would be a DJul 24 10:24
DaemonFC:/Jul 24 10:24
schestowitz[10:15] <DaemonFC> people are resettling in areas that aren't as bad offJul 24 10:25
schestowitzLike where? Dakota?Jul 24 10:25
schestowitzChopping down wood>?\Jul 24 10:25
DaemonFCschestowitz: Georgia is apparently doing wellJul 24 10:25
DaemonFCTexas tooJul 24 10:25
DaemonFCand FloridaJul 24 10:25
DaemonFCthey're all gaining House seats at the expense of northern statesJul 24 10:25
DaemonFCObama would lose 17 electoral votes even if he won the same states in 2012 that he did in 2008Jul 24 10:26
DaemonFCso he's at a disadvantage thanks to the censusJul 24 10:26
DaemonFCthe population is fleeing the northern statesJul 24 10:27
DaemonFCthat's why you get problems with lots of abandoned houses and buildingsJul 24 10:27
schestowitzI thought it was the oppositeJul 24 10:28
DaemonFCbanks give up trying to sell them, so they sell them to the city (at taxpayer expense)Jul 24 10:28
DaemonFCand then have the city bulldoze them (with tax money)Jul 24 10:28
schestowitzLike TJ "Amazing Atheist" moving to MichiganJul 24 10:28
DaemonFCMichigan, heheJul 24 10:28
schestowitzHe moved back to Louisiana recentlyJul 24 10:28
DaemonFCI keep asking if it's too late to burn Michigan down for the insurance moneyJul 24 10:28
schestowitzMichigan I recently read has a lot of crimeJul 24 10:28
schestowitzCommon sightJul 24 10:28
DaemonFCschestowitz: That's not newJul 24 10:29
schestowitzJul 24 10:29
schestowitz[10:27] <DaemonFC> that's why you get problems with lots of abandoned houses and buildingsJul 24 10:29
schestowitzThey're not abandonedJul 24 10:29
DaemonFCI was in a department store in Detroit back in the late 80sJul 24 10:29
schestowitzthe drug addicts accomodate themJul 24 10:29
schestowitzJunkiesJul 24 10:29
DaemonFCand they had things 10 feet off the floor with security wire running through themJul 24 10:29
DaemonFCthe crime rate in Detroit has always been badJul 24 10:30
DaemonFCI don't know about the rest of Michigan thoughJul 24 10:30
schestowitzI heard it's state-wide nowJul 24 10:30
DaemonFCwhere you really have to be careful is Washington, DCJul 24 10:30
schestowitzUnemployment cascades like that..Jul 24 10:30
schestowitzThere is no "oasis"Jul 24 10:31
DaemonFChighest per capita murder rate of any major US cityJul 24 10:31
DaemonFCAND highest unsolved murder rateJul 24 10:31
schestowitzyes, depdns whereJul 24 10:31
schestowitzI was in the safer partJul 24 10:31
DaemonFCin broad daylight, in a "good" area, you'll be fineJul 24 10:31
DaemonFCthe most that could happen is maybe a pick pocketJul 24 10:31
schestowitz"welcome to the cAPITAL of the US of A... please duck bullets on the way in"Jul 24 10:32
DaemonFCyeah, the crime rate in Indiana is not badJul 24 10:32
DaemonFCeven in the major population centersJul 24 10:32
schestowitzMaybe ethnicity relatedJul 24 10:32
DaemonFCI wouldn't be afraid to walk around in Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, or MuncieJul 24 10:33
DaemonFChell, I used to walk through downtown Muncie in the middle of the night when I lived thereJul 24 10:33
DaemonFCnobody is going to bother youJul 24 10:33
DaemonFCI don't know who would want to live in Detroit or ChicagoJul 24 10:33
DaemonFC:PJul 24 10:33
DaemonFCschestowitz: My mom's husband was asking the city about buying a condemned house that's not really in bad shapeJul 24 10:35
DaemonFCthey said they'd rather tear it down and it's not for saleJul 24 10:35
DaemonFCwell, not in horrible shapeJul 24 10:35
DaemonFCneeds roofing work, some carpetingJul 24 10:35
DaemonFCyou could put a reasonable amount into it if you got it at a decent price and still get a good dealJul 24 10:36
DaemonFCI figured it was just that nobody wanted to do it so the city had to tear it downJul 24 10:36
DaemonFCnow I'm starting to think that banks and landlords *want* a housing shortage Jul 24 10:36
DaemonFCto force the property values back upJul 24 10:36
DaemonFCand so the city ordinance won't let you offer to fix up a condemned homeJul 24 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #LOL http://static.myopera.com/upic/pool1/ym/WdP/Rwp0oJbKJ4EkohFkuIWTUQ/1328598_l.jpg !OnlyInChinaJul 24 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Distrowatch ranks for past 7 days http://ur1.ca/gygd "1. #PCLinuxOS 2121, 2. #Ubuntu 1997"Jul 24 10:37
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schestowitzDaemonFC: but why would banks have a say on this?Jul 24 10:38
DaemonFCeasyJul 24 10:38
DaemonFCcity does what they wantJul 24 10:38
schestowitzAlso, banks can benefit from a large number of houses aroundJul 24 10:38
DaemonFCor they get blacklisted for loansJul 24 10:38
schestowitzMore loans to give, not for rentJul 24 10:38
DaemonFCor the banks "adjust" the current loansJul 24 10:38
DaemonFCcredit rating agencies downgrade cities that won't privatize their public worksJul 24 10:38
DaemonFCthere's all kinds of ways the city can be punished by the banks for not going along with themJul 24 10:39
DaemonFCschestowitz: You know something is wrong when the city would rather have an empty field to mow than sell the lots to people wanting to use themJul 24 10:42
DaemonFCthere's a whole field the size of a couple football fields across the street from meJul 24 10:42
DaemonFCthe city likes to neglect itJul 24 10:43
DaemonFCI called the ordinance officer about it to complain it was an eyesore and a mosquito breeding groundJul 24 10:43
DaemonFCthey finally go someone out there to mow it and they've been taking care of it since :PJul 24 10:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD @schestowitz: #Acer to deliver #ARM notebook within nine days > http://ur1.ca/4rx3p "will run !Android 3.2 Honeycomb" #linux cc @nj3maJul 24 10:44
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DaemonFCseriously it was turning into a first growth forest Jul 24 10:45
DaemonFCyou had weed trees starting to grow, getting taller than meJul 24 10:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Catholic church's plea could rule out damages for priests' abuse - http://bit.ly/rmpJJd Rome showing its usual compassion for its victimsJul 24 10:45
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schestowitzDaemonFC: you're smallJul 24 10:46
schestowitz4'6Jul 24 10:46
DaemonFCschestowitz: This is what happens when you get "deciders" like Mitch Daniels (Bush's man Mitch) and Steve Updike (he even had a penis scandal and it blew over) :)Jul 24 10:46
DaemonFC6' 4"Jul 24 10:46
schestowitz:-pJul 24 10:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: like i said, smaller than weedJul 24 10:47
DaemonFCthose trees stinkJul 24 10:47
DaemonFCif the wind is blowing, you can smell them down the blockJul 24 10:47
DaemonFCthey smell like garbage Jul 24 10:47
schestowitzgot any article about updike's incident?Jul 24 10:47
schestowitzI guess I could tryJul 24 10:48
schestowitz!google Steve Updike caught masturbatingJul 24 10:48
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DaemonFCit was one of those things that everyone in town heard from the guy who walked in on the mayor masturbating to internet pornJul 24 10:48
schestowitzOr maybe you made it all upJul 24 10:48
DaemonFCwhile he was the chief of policeJul 24 10:48
schestowitzthat's not in the news yetJul 24 10:48
schestowitzIt's hearsayJul 24 10:48
DaemonFCwell, I called the Indiana election commission to complain about Updike Jul 24 10:49
schestowitzchief of police becomes mayor... what is this, police state?Jul 24 10:49
DaemonFChe was using the mayor's office as the local Republican headquartersJul 24 10:49
DaemonFCso they chased him out of there and he's had to use his own house ever sinceJul 24 10:49
DaemonFCschestowitz: Yeah, Updike was a police officerJul 24 10:50
DaemonFChe was the chief of police when he was elected to his first term as the mayorJul 24 10:51
DaemonFCthen the guy that they replaced him with was elected to become the county sheriff Jul 24 10:52
DaemonFCso we haveUpdike and goons running the entire county nowJul 24 10:52
DaemonFCschestowitz: We've had the Indiana State Police investigating Updike and one of the city councilmenJul 24 10:53
DaemonFCfor breaking into city employees personal email to readJul 24 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chrome for Mac OS X Lion is Coming, Even As Lion Mimics Chrome OS http://ur1.ca/4rxai "We covered this mimicry effort from Apple"Jul 24 10:54
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schestowitzThe US is run by many former army people, tooJul 24 10:56
schestowitzIt's like east EuropeJul 24 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Norwegian Composers On Spotify - http://bit.ly/mYCYEl interesting & appropriate selection #norwayJul 24 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh look, Google locks people out of calendar, documents, e-mail etc. over G+ ToS violations: ur1.ca/4rxay !googlefreeJul 24 10:57
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schestowitzNew: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXo50PCNc6s&feature=digestJul 24 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jrobertson: If you feel angry with life ask yourself this --> am I still using Windows? If the answer is yes switch to #Linux.Jul 24 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] TEDxObserver 2011 video: @tedcooke talks about memory and education http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwun31AglyY !lifehack !brainhack @memriseJul 24 11:04
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DaemonFCschestowitz: They should at least make him take it off of state propertyJul 24 11:07
DaemonFCwho knows if they will thoughJul 24 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Maar goed, ik ben vannacht weer eens vergeten te slapen, dus ga ik nu maar even een dutje op de sofa doen ;-)Jul 24 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♺ @jargon: there were #evil corporations before google. before microsoft. before IG Farben. there always will be. also those defending themJul 24 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Even een leuke Horror film op zetten en dan val ik vanzelf wel weer in slaap Ik heb wel weer zin in The Frankenstine Experiment ;-)Jul 24 11:10
DaemonFCcoffee wearing off, must rechargeJul 24 11:11
*DaemonFC goes to brew another potJul 24 11:11
DaemonFCkde-redhat seems to have backed outthat broken QT 4.8 TPJul 24 11:12
DaemonFCthat was causing me all kinds of griefJul 24 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Ik bedoelde The Frankenstein Experiment, met Scott Anthony Leet http://is.gd/eb90CM in de hoofdrol (yum!)Jul 24 11:14
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DaemonFCI'm going to back it out and go with their new 4.7.3 build until they get 4.8 under controlJul 24 11:14
DaemonFCKDE 4.7 RC2 itself is quite stableJul 24 11:14
*DaemonFC is listening to Voices by Godsmack on The Other Side [Amarok]Jul 24 11:16
DaemonFCB-)Jul 24 11:16
schestowitzcoffee when it's 100 degrees?Jul 24 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New video: Fox News Crimes? http://ur1.ca/4rxfb also new (religious propaganda): http://ur1.ca/4rxfm [language warning, more ex. in channel[Jul 24 11:19
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DaemonFCschestowitz: it's not that hot in hereJul 24 11:19
DaemonFCair conditioningJul 24 11:19
DaemonFCwe had a huge storm alsoJul 24 11:19
DaemonFCit's only 73 out right nowJul 24 11:19
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 11:19
DaemonFCthe humidity is still high though so I have one air conditioner going in dehumidify mode Jul 24 11:20
DaemonFCit just went upJul 24 11:20
DaemonFCit is now 74 Jul 24 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The UK phone hacking scandal: there's worse to come - much worse - http://bit.ly/p6QTiB our Augean Stables need cleaning - where's Hercules?Jul 24 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Regele Mihai a trimis o scrisoare Regelui Norvegiei http://tinyurl.com/3pbatdu #romania #monarchy #norwayJul 24 11:20
DaemonFCwith 91% humidity :)Jul 24 11:20
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DaemonFCoutsideJul 24 11:20
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DaemonFCat this humidity level, even 74 is uncomfortable Jul 24 11:21
DaemonFCschestowitz: today there is a flash flood warningJul 24 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Acer to deliver ARM notebook within nine days http://tinyurl.com/3e2l3sz #acer #arm #hardware #notebookJul 24 11:22
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DaemonFCand an excessive heat warningJul 24 11:22
DaemonFCschestowitz: I don't care what temperature it isJul 24 11:23
DaemonFCif I don't have my caffeine I can't functionJul 24 11:23
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "You just can't expect to own generic names across desktops.", so instead of discussing we named our app the same #GNOMEdiots ur1.ca/4rxawJul 24 11:24
DaemonFCschestowitz: the good news is that I stopped drinking sodaJul 24 11:25
DaemonFCstarted making those crystal light mixes insteadJul 24 11:25
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KLflkIFEeo&NR=1Jul 24 11:25
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DaemonFCI don't know why I listen to Godsmack whenever it rains :PJul 24 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @debian More details about the #DebConf streams are available at http://blog.debconf.org/blog/debconf11/video-streams.dc.Jul 24 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 24/7/2011: Acer Puts Linux on ARM Notebook, Apple Copies Linux-based OS http://ur1.ca/4rxh9 !techrightsJul 24 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 24/7/2011: Acer Puts Linux on ARM Notebook, Apple Copies Linux-based OS http://ur1.ca/4rxh9 #techrightsJul 24 11:27
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I know he's an idiot (Wiccan) Jul 24 11:27
DaemonFChe's a good singer thoughJul 24 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Acer to deliver ARM notebook within nine days http://ur1.ca/4rx3p "will run Android 3.2 Honeycomb" #linuxJul 24 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Did you know that China's GDP is almost the same as the US' now? And three times Germany's, 5 times the UK's...Jul 24 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Linux 3.1 Kernel Gains A Wiimote HID Driver http://ur1.ca/4rwqu support out of the boxJul 24 11:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Acer to deliver ARM notebook within nine days • reghardware .::. Size~: 19.83 KBJul 24 11:29
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DaemonFCschestowitz: You want to hear something sad? :)Jul 24 11:29
DaemonFCI had to explain to my mom was an SD card is yesterdayJul 24 11:29
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 11:29
DaemonFC*whatJul 24 11:29
DaemonFCif it has a computer chip in it, she's lost (usually)Jul 24 11:30
DaemonFCDave got her a tablet for her birthday and I had to go over with her how to use itJul 24 11:30
DaemonFCstarting with what a web browser isJul 24 11:30
DaemonFC:(Jul 24 11:31
DaemonFCsad sad sadJul 24 11:31
schestowitzthe blue e?Jul 24 11:31
DaemonFCnoJul 24 11:31
DaemonFCit includes a mobile version of ChromeJul 24 11:31
DaemonFCgood news is that it accepted the adblock add-onJul 24 11:32
DaemonFCschestowitz: I already gave Dave the "Don't use IE" speechJul 24 11:32
DaemonFCI even deleted all shortcuts to it off of their computer and made Firefox the default browserJul 24 11:33
DaemonFCI don't figure it would do any good trying to talk them out of WindowsJul 24 11:33
DaemonFCbut at least they won't be using a crappy web browserJul 24 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Thousands of scientific papers uploaded to the Pirate Bay http://tinyurl.com/3nc8gn4 #science #jstor #piratebay #shareJul 24 11:34
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I replaced Dave's old MS Office with LibreOffice  Jul 24 11:34
DaemonFChe was complaining about how expensive Office 2010 isJul 24 11:34
DaemonFCso I slapped LibreOffice on and he can do everything he needs with itJul 24 11:34
DaemonFCthis is why I don't get people who say free software shouldn't support WindowsJul 24 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Linux 3.1 Kernel Gains A Wiimote HID Driver http://tinyurl.com/3wmlpf3 #linux #kernel #gnu #software #wiiJul 24 11:35
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DaemonFCif it didn't, IE's usage share would still be in the 90sJul 24 11:35
DaemonFCand many more people would be buying MS OfficeJul 24 11:35
DaemonFCif free software can turn Microsoft's own platform against them, why do some people not like that opportunity?Jul 24 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Opt pagini despre Palatul Elisabeta http://tinyurl.com/453cqcr #romania #monarchy #elisabetaJul 24 11:39
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schestowitzI noticed something intrestingJul 24 11:40
schestowitzEven if I don't need the swap the system takes it up graduallyJul 24 11:40
schestowitzMaybe 10 MB/hourJul 24 11:40
schestowitzBut it adds upJul 24 11:40
schestowitzit's like some process insists on using swap rather than using the available, vacant RAMJul 24 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @zoobab Programmers should not be forced to look at patent claims before writing code. It's like asking book writers to look at patentsJul 24 11:40
DaemonFCschestowitz: and if you don't have SWAP they can malfunction sometimesJul 24 11:41
DaemonFCand various things use it as a temp directory instead of /tmpJul 24 11:42
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 11:42
DaemonFCbrbJul 24 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Links 24/7/2011: Acer Puts Linux on ARM Notebook, Apple Copies Linux-based OS http://ur1.ca/4rxh9 !techrightsJul 24 11:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @FFII The study confirms ACTA goes beyond current EU legislation. It recommends asking the European Court of Justice an opinion on #ACTAJul 24 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ffii "There does not therefore appear to be any immediate benefit from #ACTA for EU citizens"Jul 24 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When governments serve corporations -- esp. foreign ones -- to the detriment of the people, why do we bother voting right/left?Jul 24 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rcweir John Dvorak: "OpenOffice Gets IBM Boost" Some nice analysis on the Symphony contribution. http://bit.ly/qjw5VyJul 24 11:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenOffice Gets IBM Boost | John C. Dvorak |  PCMag.com .::. Size~: 100.01 KBJul 24 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @zoobab: RT @normnz: Tv7 Court Report patent debate over. My critics tell me I was too interruptive and that looked bad.Jul 24 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz ♻ @rcweir John Dvorak: "OpenOffice Gets IBM Boost" Some nice analysis on the Symphony contribution. http://bit.ly/qjw5VyJul 24 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz ♻ @FFII The study confirms ACTA goes beyond current EU legislation. It recommends asking the European Court of Justice a ...Jul 24 11:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenOffice Gets IBM Boost | John C. Dvorak |  PCMag.com .::. Size~: 100.01 KBJul 24 11:50
MinceRschestowitz: afaik unused pages are swapped out eventually to make more room for disk cacheJul 24 11:51
MinceRthis can be avoided by reducing swappiness or disabling swap, but it usually isn't recommendedJul 24 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In debates, it's sometimes better to be passive when the other side gets aggressive. Viewers abhor aggression. Anger is self-defeating.Jul 24 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @pawelf A + to rule them all, a + to find them, a + to bring them all and in the google-cloud bind them. !gplusJul 24 11:52
schestowitzFlorian and Microsoft mates http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/93660006053982209Jul 24 11:53
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @edbott @marypcbuk @timanderson Ed is right. Those are also subject to international agreements such as TRIPS and various FTAsJul 24 11:53
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/93711342955020289Jul 24 11:54
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: Motorola Mobility's attempt to delay a decision on Microsoft's ITC complaint (Android patent infringement) by 3 months has just been DENIED.Jul 24 11:54
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/93744429864714241Jul 24 11:55
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @JBrodkin @NetworkWorld Congratulations!Jul 24 11:55
DaemonFCI don't know why they claim FGLRX can't use OpenGL 2 backend with kwin Jul 24 11:55
schestowitzit's their Microsoft boosterJul 24 11:55
DaemonFCit can if you turn off vsync Jul 24 11:55
DaemonFCif you don't it gets choppy Jul 24 11:56
DaemonFC*shrug*Jul 24 11:56
DaemonFCperfectionists I guessJul 24 11:56
schestowitzThe forecast lied...Jul 24 11:56
schestowitz'lied'Jul 24 11:56
schestowitzI think I'll escape in a moment, no sun is comingJul 24 11:56
DaemonFCI'd rather them detect FGLRX, give it OpenGL 2, and disable vsync in kwinJul 24 11:56
DaemonFCthan give it the OpenGL 1.4 backend Jul 24 11:56
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 11:56
schestowitzhttp://www.vintagebaseballherald.com/2011/07/game-on-tap-for-this-weekend.htmlJul 24 11:57
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DaemonFCthere's never going to be such a thing as pixel perfect with FGLRXJul 24 11:57
DaemonFCthe hack they use to "fix" tearing is simple triple buffering, woohooJul 24 11:57
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/79576570Jul 24 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr@Răzvan Sandu (rsandu)'s status on Sunday, 24-Jul-11 10:49:43 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Please see this http://tinyurl.com/3b9455kJul 24 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: I'm starting to think that the Left might actually be right - Telegraph .::. Size~: 85.31 KBJul 24 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mgeist Reports that the Mexican Senate has rejected signing the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. via @StopActaNow #ACTAJul 24 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I'm starting to think that the Left might actually be right http://ur1.ca/4rxs6 "Left is that what the Right.." v @rsanduJul 24 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I'm starting to think that the Left might actually be right - Telegraph .::. Size~: 85.31 KBJul 24 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @StopActaNow: Confirmed. Here are final conclusions of the Mexican Senate. Unconstitutional. (spanish) http://is.gd/ZcOQTPJul 24 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Vince Cable attacks 'rightwing nutters' over US debt ceiling talks http://is.gd/BtjMfIJul 24 12:02
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DaemonFCthe Democrats want to play kick the can and the Republicans want to fuck over the working class and seniors and the disabledJul 24 12:03
DaemonFCthis can't end wellJul 24 12:03
DaemonFCI think in the end Obama will give the Republicans nearly everything they are demanding in exchange for a debt limit that will take us past the 2012 electionJul 24 12:04
DaemonFChe doesn't want a repeat of this ruining his campaign where he goes and tells everyone to have joy joy feelingsJul 24 12:04
DaemonFC;)Jul 24 12:04
DaemonFCMinceR: Be wellJul 24 12:04
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/94184825153523712Jul 24 12:05
DaemonFCschestowitz: Indiana banned "synthetic marijuana" as they like to call itJul 24 12:05
DaemonFCthat K2 stuffJul 24 12:05
schestowitzFlorian still waging battles against LinuxJul 24 12:05
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: ZDNet reports that a federal judge said today: Google will owe millions, maybe billions, to Oracle no matter what http://t.co/XHtVPDcJul 24 12:05
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schestowitzhe ignores all the opposite evidenceJul 24 12:05
DaemonFCit's still not a crime to have it, just to sell itJul 24 12:05
schestowitzJust enhancing the anti-Android angleJul 24 12:05
DaemonFCso people will buy it online nowJul 24 12:05
DaemonFCdriving all kinds of tax money out of the stateJul 24 12:06
schestowitzDaemonFC: is bchmann the next pres?Jul 24 12:06
DaemonFCsmart :)Jul 24 12:06
DaemonFCprobablyJul 24 12:06
DaemonFCat this rateJul 24 12:06
schestowitzblech , mann!Jul 24 12:06
schestowitzbookman in germanJul 24 12:06
DaemonFCBachmann/Limbaugh 2012Jul 24 12:07
schestowitzReading from teleprompter while denying itJul 24 12:07
schestowitzBachman campaign solgaN:Jul 24 12:07
DaemonFCBehold I saw the beastJul 24 12:07
schestowitz'I'm female, but less thick than Sarah"Jul 24 12:07
DaemonFCand it had great moobsJul 24 12:07
MinceR:)Jul 24 12:07
DaemonFCand behold, it was snorting oxycontin from a cigar boxJul 24 12:07
schestowitz!google Limbaugh ching chang chongJul 24 12:08
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Rush Limbaugh on Chinese President: “CHING CHANG CHONG” - COLORLINES | http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/01/rush_limbaugh_on_chinese_president_ching_chang_chong.htmlJul 24 12:08
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Limbaugh's "ching chang chong" | Sacramento | Yelp | http://www.yelp.com/topic/sacramento-limbaughs-ching-chang-chongJul 24 12:08
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Democralypse Now: Rush Limbaugh Goes "Ching Chang Chong" On Air To ... | http://democralypsenow.blogspot.com/2011/01/rush-limbaugh-goes-ching-chang-chong-on.htmlJul 24 12:08
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Rush Limbaugh Goes “Ching Chang Chong” On Air To Make His Wallet ... | http://democralypsenow.com/rush-limbaugh-goes-ching-chang-chong-on-air-to-make-his-wallet-go-ka-ching-on-landJul 24 12:08
schestowitzBachmann would be ina  bit of a LIMBO with her as her running mayeJul 24 12:09
schestowitz*mateJul 24 12:09
DaemonFCit's a wonder Limbaugh isn't dead yetJul 24 12:09
DaemonFChe's obese, he smokes cigars, he snorts prescription pain killersJul 24 12:10
DaemonFCwho knows what elseJul 24 12:10
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/94433124297080832Jul 24 12:10
TechrightsBot-tr@rcweir: 99.2 F in the shade (37.3 C) and it will get even higher in the afternoonJul 24 12:10
schestowitzRichmnond IIRCJul 24 12:10
schestowitzNYJul 24 12:10
schestowitz*RichmondJul 24 12:10
schestowitzHehe, less than 70 hereJul 24 12:11
schestowitzmaxJul 24 12:11
schestowitzenjoy your 'summer'...Jul 24 12:11
DaemonFCschestowitz: Al Bundy: "And on that day son, you'd better be able to outrun the Dodge!" Bud: "Dad....Rush Limbaugh could outrun the Dodge"Jul 24 12:11
DaemonFCB-)Jul 24 12:11
schestowitzyeahJul 24 12:11
schestowitzWhat is ud up to now?Jul 24 12:11
schestowitzLet's see..Jul 24 12:11
DaemonFCthat was my favorite TV show everJul 24 12:12
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_FaustinoJul 24 12:12
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schestowitzDaemonFC: it's the one I watched the most, everJul 24 12:12
schestowitzOver 1000 timesJul 24 12:12
schestowitz"In October 2010, he travelled to Auckland, New Zealand, to take part in the Armageddon 'pulp culture' Expo."Jul 24 12:13
schestowitzThat's what he does todayJul 24 12:13
schestowitz"Faustino appeared with the cast of Married with Children again at the 7th Annual TV Land Awards in 2009, presented by Dr. Phil. He also had cameo appearances in two episodes of the HBO series Entourage."Jul 24 12:13
DaemonFCit's a living I guess Jul 24 12:13
schestowitzSo did Bud eventually "get laid"?Jul 24 12:13
DaemonFCit's hard to get work when you're typecast Jul 24 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] And here is yet another new #realtime #linux #kernel: 3.0-rt3 http://bit.ly/pjWvdLJul 24 12:14
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schestowitz"Faustino owns a night club in Los Angeles named Balistyx, which is the same name as his rap album"Jul 24 12:14
schestowitzRap?Jul 24 12:14
DaemonFChehJul 24 12:14
DaemonFCFaustino was arrested for misdemeanor possession of marijuana in May 2007. A disorderly intoxication charge was later dropped after Faustino agreed to enroll in a drug rehabilitation facility.[7][8]Jul 24 12:14
schestowitzHe did some on one episodeJul 24 12:14
DaemonFCYou have to be rehabilitated Jul 24 12:14
schestowitzWhen he dressed all ghetto like MC HammerJul 24 12:14
DaemonFCyou were using drugs that aren't government approvedJul 24 12:14
DaemonFCyou threatened nobody, you damaged no propertyJul 24 12:15
DaemonFCand you were not a danger to yourselfJul 24 12:15
DaemonFCyou need helpJul 24 12:15
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 12:15
schestowitzMS MVPs love Florian http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/94445604515753984Jul 24 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @johnobeto Haven't looked into it yet.Jul 24 12:15
schestowitzWith his anti-Linux vendattaJul 24 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Catholic church's plea could rule out damages for priests' abuse http://is.gd/zeGcdl it's time govts played hardball to force the churchJul 24 12:15
schestowitzWith his anti-Linux vendettaJul 24 12:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Catholic church's plea could rule out  damages for priests' abuse | World news | The Observer .::. Size~: 95.23 KBJul 24 12:15
DaemonFCschestowitz: Do you have incurable reefer madnessJul 24 12:16
MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1406#comicJul 24 12:16
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DaemonFCit only takes one hit you knowJul 24 12:16
schestowitzoh, no... he insults religions ~~Jul 24 12:16
DaemonFCand you become incurably insaneJul 24 12:16
schestowitzI stpped giving a _ about my followers in twitter being offended if I post "offensive" materialJul 24 12:16
schestowitzMinceR: +1Jul 24 12:17
schestowitzActually, I love those debatesJul 24 12:17
schestowitzBecause they are easier to winJul 24 12:17
schestowitzEither ending in someone crying (not you)Jul 24 12:17
schestowitzOr refusing to talkJul 24 12:17
DaemonFCWhen Satan isn't busy putting subliminal messages in your musicJul 24 12:17
DaemonFCand tempting you with masturbationJul 24 12:17
DaemonFChe's waiting for you in HELLJul 24 12:17
DaemonFCmuahahahaaaaaa!Jul 24 12:17
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 12:18
schestowitzI had this chat with my neighbour some days agoJul 24 12:18
schestowitzHe "thanked God" for getting replacement keysJul 24 12:18
schestowitzI told him he shoudl thank the buildign company, no divine intervention was neededJul 24 12:18
schestowitzI showed his cousin some videos on the subject on muy computerJul 24 12:18
schestowitzTo help them see their own delusionJul 24 12:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz ♻ @StopActaNow: Confirmed. Here are final conclusions of the Mexican Senate. Unconstitutional. (spanish) http://is.gd/ZcOQTPJul 24 12:19
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DaemonFCschestowitz: There's people that see divine intervention at work in the most benign aspects of daily lifeJul 24 12:19
schestowitzDaemonFC: satan?Jul 24 12:19
DaemonFCpsychological need or somethingJul 24 12:19
schestowitzsince when does satan come into sex?Jul 24 12:19
schestowitzDaemonFC: even very simplethignsJul 24 12:19
DaemonFCsex is bad unless you use it to create more religious followersJul 24 12:19
schestowitzfound key -> thank godJul 24 12:19
DaemonFCand the owman is not pleasuredJul 24 12:19
schestowitzThat is PROOF !!!Jul 24 12:19
DaemonFC*womanJul 24 12:19
DaemonFCthat's why her parents are supposed to mutilate her genitalsJul 24 12:20
schestowitzhehJul 24 12:20
schestowitzfreudian slipJul 24 12:20
DaemonFCbefore forcing her to marry youJul 24 12:20
schestowitzOweManJul 24 12:20
DaemonFC:(Jul 24 12:20
schestowitzDoes she?Jul 24 12:20
DaemonFCsureJul 24 12:20
schestowitzThe religions folks of the extreme kind think women were made of a dirty ribJul 24 12:21
DaemonFCwithout a man's rib, there wouldn't be any womenJul 24 12:21
schestowitzDaemonFC: you're made of dirt... and calcium.. and waterJul 24 12:21
DaemonFCand after that talking snake and apple incident they really owe usJul 24 12:21
schestowitzDaemonFC: withouth womb,there would be no menJul 24 12:21
schestowitzIt was a really GOOD appleJul 24 12:21
DaemonFCyeah, but because of them we have to dieJul 24 12:22
schestowitzBlessed by God himself, SteveJul 24 12:22
DaemonFCand the talking snakeJul 24 12:22
DaemonFCand the appleJul 24 12:22
DaemonFCdamned women :PJul 24 12:22
schestowitzThe snake was the other Steve, the sweatier oneJul 24 12:22
DaemonFCdamn them and their talking snakeJul 24 12:22
DaemonFCoh waitJul 24 12:22
DaemonFCtalking snake that walked on feetJul 24 12:23
schestowitzthe moral of the story (which some consider not to be metaphorical) is that one day we might all go to EdenJul 24 12:23
DaemonFCand God punished the snake by taking its feet awayJul 24 12:23
schestowitzAnd be denied access to ApplesJul 24 12:23
schestowitzAnd talk to snakes! Yay!!Jul 24 12:23
DaemonFCeven though the snake wasn't a snake, it was Satan disguised as a snake Jul 24 12:23
schestowitzDaemonFC: ohJul 24 12:23
schestowitzso it wasn't a snakeJul 24 12:23
DaemonFCGod punished the snakes, and not SatanJul 24 12:23
schestowitzIt was a reptileJul 24 12:23
schestowitzIt became a snake the opposite wayJul 24 12:23
schestowitzThat's not how I remember itJul 24 12:23
DaemonFCwhat did the snakes ever do to deserve crawling on their belly and eating dust?Jul 24 12:24
schestowitzThe fish swam out of the waterJul 24 12:24
schestowitzTo survivce by moving between lakes and suchJul 24 12:24
schestowitzAnd they developed small feet over timeJul 24 12:24
schestowitzrather than finsJul 24 12:24
schestowitzsome survived without themJul 24 12:24
schestowitzSo God did Evolution{tm} in reverseJul 24 12:24
DaemonFCschestowitz: talking snakes, apples, and women as the downfall of humanity or gtfo!Jul 24 12:24
DaemonFCB-)Jul 24 12:24
schestowitzIf the snake does bad again, God will turn the snakes (which used to be a reptile ) into fish :-) or amphibian, although that would be an upgradeJul 24 12:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: rightJul 24 12:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: it's a simple storyJul 24 12:25
schestowitzMany people don't understand inflation, global warming etc.Jul 24 12:25
schestowitzAnd they can't explains it to (indoctrinate) kidsJul 24 12:26
DaemonFCreally, how can people take the bible literally?Jul 24 12:26
DaemonFCeven if they believe it as a source of guidance or somethingJul 24 12:26
schestowitzThe kids can draw stick figures and snake (a xtraight line) and an apple (circle)Jul 24 12:26
DaemonFCa retarded person could punch holes in that story, taken literallyJul 24 12:26
schestowitzSin 101{tm}Jul 24 12:26
DaemonFCherp derp, uhhhhh, SOMETHING NOT ADD UP HERE!!!!Jul 24 12:26
schestowitzNO!Jul 24 12:26
schestowitzYou offend usJul 24 12:26
schestowitzWe raised you!!Jul 24 12:27
schestowitzNow believe this  crock and be happy :)Jul 24 12:27
schestowitzWhat's that infamous rapture film they show to kids where people are guillotined off?Jul 24 12:27
schestowitzThey give kids nightmares, using fear to lock them inJul 24 12:27
DaemonFCChristians tend to believe in a God with multiple personality disorderJul 24 12:27
DaemonFCone personality loves us and wants the best for usJul 24 12:28
schestowitzI like the term "God-fearing"Jul 24 12:28
DaemonFCand the other will smite the sinners and throw them into hellJul 24 12:28
schestowitzWWyclef uses this in his lyrics tooJul 24 12:28
schestowitzNot God-lovingJul 24 12:28
schestowitzGod-fearingJul 24 12:28
schestowitzHe says, "I turnd an atheist into a God-fearing believer"Jul 24 12:28
schestowitzAs in, I terrorised someoneJul 24 12:28
schestowitzAin't it grand?Jul 24 12:28
DaemonFCif you want to use God as a father figure model, you should kill your children any time they annoy youJul 24 12:29
schestowitzBush-fearing RepublicanJul 24 12:29
DaemonFCthere wouldn't be many humans living into adulthood thoughJul 24 12:29
schestowitzFather-fearing sonJul 24 12:29
schestowitzmeans love?Jul 24 12:30
schestowitzSounds like a dysfunctional spankful relationshipJul 24 12:30
DaemonFCit's a fine line between discipline and child abuseJul 24 12:30
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 12:30
schestowitz[12:29] <DaemonFC> if you want to use God as a father figure model, you should kill your children any time they annoy youJul 24 12:30
schestowitzCatch 22Jul 24 12:30
schestowitzAbraham would be a monster no matter what he did, at least in God's eyesJul 24 12:30
schestowitzIn a sane person's eyes, the decision to make would be to abandon religionJul 24 12:31
schestowitzAnd he was actually a monsterJul 24 12:31
schestowitzAs he was gonna slaughter the kidJul 24 12:31
DaemonFChack your kid in half..... "OK!"Jul 24 12:31
DaemonFCno wait, just fucking with youJul 24 12:31
schestowitzBy today's standard, he'd be locked up in an instituteJul 24 12:31
DaemonFCyou were totally gonna do it!!!Jul 24 12:31
schestowitzNot hailed as a person to be admiredJul 24 12:31
DaemonFCbahahahahaaaaa!Jul 24 12:31
DaemonFCyou should have seen the look on your faces, heheheJul 24 12:32
schestowitzHeheJul 24 12:32
DaemonFCbest bible story everJul 24 12:32
schestowitzFunny thing is how the story gets used to preach FOR religionJul 24 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Church need to open up ALL of their files & communicate FULLY with local Police, then excommunicate ALL those guilty of abuse & coverupJul 24 12:32
schestowitzAnd teachers actually teach this stuffJul 24 12:32
schestowitzLater they wonderJul 24 12:32
schestowitz!google 91 norwatJul 24 12:32
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Norway Terror Attacks Toll Upped to 91: Norwegian Man Arrested ... | http://abcnewsradioonline.com/world-news/norway-terror-attacks-toll-upped-to-91-norwegian-man-arreste.htmlJul 24 12:32
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Norway Terror Attacks Toll Upped To 91: Norwegian Man Arrested ... | http://www.knssradio.com/Norway-Terror-Attacks-Toll-Upped-to-91--Norwegian-/10432905Jul 24 12:32
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - YouTube - Armwrestling EM-91 Norway Fredrikstad 75kg‏ | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DlXmTLdm5hpkJul 24 12:32
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Ebru TV | Ayna 91- Norway 1 | http://www.ebrutv.eu/en/genres/LifestyleCulture/ayna/episodes/1/ayna-91-norway-1Jul 24 12:32
schestowitzBTWJul 24 12:33
DaemonFCyeah, if you look closer at Timothy McVeigh, he was an extremist ChristianJul 24 12:33
schestowitzBased on what I saw in the BBCJul 24 12:33
DaemonFCthey tried to cover that up thoughJul 24 12:33
schestowitzHe may have been religious motivatedJul 24 12:33
schestowitzAnd they have just found a manuscript online where he is said to have planned this for yearsJul 24 12:33
DaemonFCbut he was in with the Christian Identity (Neo Nazi Christians) peopleJul 24 12:33
schestowitzSo her is a man determined day and night for years to slaughter kidsJul 24 12:33
schestowitzonce in the body/faceJul 24 12:33
schestowitzLittle girls tooJul 24 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Church need to open up ALL of their files & cooperate FULLY with local Police, then excommunicate ALL those guilty of abuse & coverupJul 24 12:34
schestowitzThen close up while they struggle and bleed and beg for mercyJul 24 12:34
schestowitzAnd he shoots them in the headJul 24 12:34
DaemonFCschestowitz: execute himJul 24 12:34
schestowitzOne after another... girls tooJul 24 12:34
DaemonFCit won't bring them backJul 24 12:34
schestowitzFor hoursJul 24 12:34
DaemonFChis family won't like itJul 24 12:34
DaemonFCbut people like that shouldn't be allowed to liveJul 24 12:34
schestowitzhis nationJul 24 12:34
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 12:34
schestowitzIt's becoming an embarrassment for NorwayJul 24 12:34
schestowitzI have some friends thereJul 24 12:34
schestowitzBergen and OsloJul 24 12:35
schestowitzAnyway, he got what he wanted. The BBC made him famousJul 24 12:35
schestowitzeven pinned up his favourite picsJul 24 12:35
schestowitzCause the media just wants to sell papersJul 24 12:35
DaemonFCI'm not against capital punishment, I think the only conditions should be you KNOW they did it, and they did something truly heinous and deserving of itJul 24 12:35
DaemonFCa woman drowns her kids in a bath tubJul 24 12:35
schestowitzFew people recognised that Jarred too needed to just be erased as a narrativeJul 24 12:36
DaemonFCdeath sentence, pleaseJul 24 12:36
schestowitzThey gave McVeigh this fame tooJul 24 12:36
schestowitzDaemonFC: what would that achieveJul 24 12:36
schestowitzDeterrence?Jul 24 12:36
DaemonFCkeeping them alive in prison achieves what?Jul 24 12:37
DaemonFCtaxpayers pay to keep them thereJul 24 12:37
schestowitzWhen a parent kills the inheritants, I doubt that parent cares about his/her own life anywayJul 24 12:37
DaemonFCthey can preach their twisted ideology in prisonJul 24 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vince Cable attacks 'rightwing nutters' over US debt ceiling talks - http://bit.ly/nZ8moc ha! Vinnie FTW...Jul 24 12:37
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schestowitzyou could impose labour in prisonJul 24 12:37
schestowitzIn China it's called "Work"Jul 24 12:37
DaemonFCit serves as a constant reminder to the public that they are alive and wellJul 24 12:37
DaemonFCdespite what they didJul 24 12:37
schestowitzThey turned prison into a WayOfLifeJul 24 12:37
DaemonFCI'd say it's a matter of principle Jul 24 12:37
schestowitzYou're better off in US jail than in the Chinese workforce of some areasJul 24 12:38
DaemonFCyeahJul 24 12:38
DaemonFCI don't think that people who do these things deserve to liveJul 24 12:38
DaemonFCeven in prison conditionsJul 24 12:38
DaemonFCit's more than they deserveJul 24 12:38
schestowitzThe only difference between where you are not and jail is that you would not have a catJul 24 12:38
schestowitzDo they have A/C in some US jails?Jul 24 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] @rysiek Its happened before; there is libwebkit which is the one that uses gtk. !kde had to choose a more specific name there...Jul 24 12:39
DaemonFCyeahJul 24 12:39
schestowitzcool.Jul 24 12:39
schestowitz[pun]Jul 24 12:39
DaemonFCand they have nice gymsJul 24 12:39
DaemonFCand satellite TVJul 24 12:39
schestowitzAnd healthcareJul 24 12:39
DaemonFCand a bedJul 24 12:39
DaemonFCand three guaranteed mealsJul 24 12:39
schestowitzhardcore gymsJul 24 12:39
schestowitzwhy is it called prison then?Jul 24 12:39
DaemonFCsome prisons are not really even really a prisonJul 24 12:40
schestowitzcan you file a complaint there for bad service?Jul 24 12:40
schestowitzLike if you miss a meal or the gym equipment is outdated?Jul 24 12:40
DaemonFCschestowitz: I don't know, it's more like a health spa for Neo NazisJul 24 12:40
schestowitzIt's a private company after allJul 24 12:40
schestowitzManybe they don't provide their service that taxpayer pay forJul 24 12:40
DaemonFCoh, you blew up school kids, you get to go to Camp Skinhead!Jul 24 12:40
DaemonFChooray!Jul 24 12:40
DaemonFCit's an outrage that some people work for a living and don't live that wellJul 24 12:41
schestowitzThe Gillford shooting dude shaved hisheadJul 24 12:41
DaemonFCand you say that a mass murderer deserves better than a working person who doesn't break the lawJul 24 12:41
schestowitzhm.. sky clearing up a bit nowJul 24 12:41
schestowitzSnit: pingJul 24 12:41
schestowitzI bet some people who work in the penal industry get envious of the inmatesJul 24 12:42
schestowitzThey get better conditionsJul 24 12:42
schestowitzand have more friendsJul 24 12:42
schestowitz[12:41] <DaemonFC> and you say that a mass murderer deserves better than a working person who doesn't break the lawJul 24 12:42
DaemonFCmy aunt works at a prison full of sex offendersJul 24 12:42
schestowitzOr yout neighbour who doesn't workJul 24 12:42
DaemonFCbut she has a fairly cushy six figure job thereJul 24 12:43
schestowitzThe benefits here for someone like you would be about $100 a weekJul 24 12:43
schestowitzIf you did nothingJul 24 12:43
DaemonFCprison should be a place of punishment Jul 24 12:44
DaemonFCnot a resortJul 24 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: ♻ @mgeist Reports that the Mexican Senate has rejected signing the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. via @StopActaNow #ACJul 24 12:47
DaemonFCschestowitz: put them on a chain gang and have them fix the roadsJul 24 12:47
DaemonFChave them pick up trash all dayJul 24 12:47
oiaohmThere is a reason why they stopped doing that in a lot of places.  DaemonFCJul 24 12:48
DaemonFCfucking make them dig ditches and then fill them in againJul 24 12:48
oiaohmToo simple for there friends to come visit and nick off with them.Jul 24 12:48
DaemonFCbecause those places are full of idiotsJul 24 12:48
oiaohmNow one large rock and a hammer sounds like a good idea.Jul 24 12:48
oiaohmBasically make gravel like my grandfather had to.Jul 24 12:49
oiaohmI don't think you would go back to jail if the job of being there was breaking down rocks or other equally usless stuff.Jul 24 12:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #TopGear still refers to #Nissan as the #Datsun #LOLJul 24 12:52
schestowitzSnit: I'm back in a couple of hours, out to the sun..Jul 24 12:52
schestowitz[12:47] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: put them on a chain gang and have them fix the roadsJul 24 12:52
schestowitzIt's not the American WayJul 24 12:52
schestowitzThat's what the US imports Chinese slaves forJul 24 12:53
schestowitzNow it just outsources to ChinaJul 24 12:53
schestowitzso they can make the products there and justship it over in massive containersJul 24 12:53
schestowitzchina has the poor wage regulationsJul 24 12:53
schestowitzCommunism for the ichJul 24 12:53
schestowitzCommunism for the richJul 24 12:53
schestowitz[12:48] <DaemonFC> fucking make them dig ditches and then fill them in againJul 24 12:55
schestowitzThere are more useful jobs to doJul 24 12:55
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schestowitzhow about manufacturiing?Jul 24 12:55
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DaemonFCyou know, there's one setting Opera doesn't let you set that drives me nutsJul 24 12:58
DaemonFCautoscroll speed :(Jul 24 12:58
schestowitzuselessJul 24 13:02
schestowitzdistractingJul 24 13:02
DaemonFCnot reallyJul 24 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Memo to Shuttleworth: things that cannot be held cannot be "owned". Code is copyrighted, not "owned".Jul 24 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If everything we owned could be copied -- cars for example -- would we share them by making exact copies at zero cost?Jul 24 13:02
DaemonFCmost of a typical page is fluffJul 24 13:02
schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_sna_comparison&num=1Jul 24 13:04
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schestowitzit gets cloudy againJul 24 13:05
DaemonFCsaw thatJul 24 13:09
DaemonFChe didn't benchmark anything resembling my cardJul 24 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] still don't know when to use groups on identi.ca; easy... we don't need to know/care you are listening to the latest #LO episode!Jul 24 13:14
schestowitzDaemonFC: yestrday I found out I'll have another niece or nephewJul 24 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 screenshot tour http://ur1.ca/4ryo4 #linux or #ballnux on tabletsJul 24 13:15
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schestowitzYou're the eldest in your family, IIRCJul 24 13:15
schestowitzyour mom will pamper you like your brother if you were to spread her 'seed'Jul 24 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Monsanto's "Superweeds" Gallop Through Midwest - http://bit.ly/qgxXeP so predictable; shame on #USDA (v @dcarli @Cocoxochitl @tomphilpott)Jul 24 13:17
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DaemonFCshe does call Jabba her grandsonJul 24 13:17
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 13:17
schestowitzThat's what we've been reduced to :-DJul 24 13:18
schestowitzhttp://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2011/07/corporate-responsibility-try-returning.htmlJul 24 13:18
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schestowitzdoes that make your firearms Jabba's siblings?Jul 24 13:19
DaemonFCoh wonderfulJul 24 13:19
DaemonFCmy refrigerator is leaking somethingJul 24 13:19
schestowitzdid you go in the fridge again?Jul 24 13:20
schestowitzMaybe insomniaJul 24 13:20
DaemonFClooks like waterJul 24 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Washington Post Owes the World an Apology for this Item - http://bit.ly/nUMf2h James Fallows spot on (v @jamie_love) #osloJul 24 13:20
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DaemonFCdoesn't smell like anythingJul 24 13:20
schestowitzthat's what they say...Jul 24 13:20
schestowitza friend of mine bought a fridge last weekJul 24 13:21
schestowitzBeckoJul 24 13:21
schestowitz!google fridge becko explodeJul 24 13:21
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Beko Exploding fridges. - Bike Chat Forums | http://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D224623Jul 24 13:21
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Beko Recall Fridge Freezers For Overheating Risk | http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/appliance-industry-news/114-beko/3108-beko-recall-fridge-freezers-for-overheating-risk.htmlJul 24 13:21
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Faulty Beko fridge freezers causing fires, 500000 affected how to ... | http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/07/05/faulty-beko-fridge-freezers-causing-fires-500000-affected-how-to-check-yours/Jul 24 13:21
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Chill out: your fridge may explode - www.markpiggott.com | http://www.markpiggott.com/apps/blog/show/7613380Jul 24 13:21
schestowitzProblem is, my washing machine is a beckoJul 24 13:21
schestowitzMy 2 fridges are not, thankfullyJul 24 13:21
DaemonFCfuckJul 24 13:23
DaemonFCthis isn't goodJul 24 13:23
DaemonFCfound the problemJul 24 13:24
schestowitzwhy?Jul 24 13:24
schestowitzstinks?Jul 24 13:24
schestowitzmaybe the fridge too takes a leakJul 24 13:24
DaemonFCa gallon of water in the back spilled overJul 24 13:24
schestowitzOr maybe you went in it... not into itJul 24 13:24
DaemonFCthis is going to be fun to clean upJul 24 13:24
schestowitzwhat's the pointJul 24 13:24
schestowitzit'll leak againJul 24 13:25
schestowitzdisconnect the thing and finish the foodJul 24 13:25
schestowitzGet a van to bring itn to repeair or pay $100 for a 'professional' to visitJul 24 13:25
schestowitzOr is this provided by the landlord's son?Jul 24 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Free Technology Academy needs your help! http://ur1.ca/4rytk #education and #LinuxJul 24 13:25
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schestowitzmaybe the hot weather made your fridge coredumpJul 24 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] „Informatica la Castel” Free #Software Summer School, August 29th - September 4th, #Romania http://proinfo.uvvg.ro #linux #foss #eventJul 24 13:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eric S Raymond:Thoughts On No-Anonymity Policy Of Google+ http://ur1.ca/4ryvl "deleting the accounts of people with single-word legal names"Jul 24 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @smv: released #linuxlibre 3.0-1-x86_64 for #parabola in [libre-testing] \o/Jul 24 13:30
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DaemonFCwell, now I'm bleedingJul 24 13:32
DaemonFCJabba tripped me and I slipped on the water and fell on my ass and cut my fingerJul 24 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz: Eric S Raymond:Thoughts On NoAnonymity Policy Of G+ http://ur1.ca/4ryvl "deleting accounts of ppl w/ single-word names"Jul 24 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I must admit, I'm not at all happy about the way Google are carrying on right now with that G+ policyJul 24 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I suppose Google want one word names for "paying" customers; ie biz?Jul 24 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: The Washington Post Owes the World an Apology for this Item - http://bit.ly/nUMf2h James Fallows spot on (v @jamie_love) #osloJul 24 13:34
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schestowitzback in 1.5 hours, in case Snit or goblin askJul 24 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Condolences to the people of #Norge for the violence inflicted by a madman. Attacking the innocent = cowardice. #NorwayJul 24 13:39
oiaohmhttp://www.linux.fm/  Ok anyone else think this is taken things a little too farJul 24 13:40
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oiaohmFor litiral meaning.Jul 24 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Same reason; I don't think Google+ will ever be connected to the !StatusNet network, sadly cc @ferguskellyJul 24 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @tekk: @speeddefrost you overestimate the work of a distro. I'm a robot that does ./configure --prefix=$PREFIX && make && make installJul 24 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The open internet and its enemies - http://bbc.in/nRsDHp @billt weighs in on crucial topic (v @technollama) #opennessJul 24 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Regelui Mihai îi plac îngheţata cu caramel şi spuma de ciocolată http://tinyurl.com/3pd3u96 #mihai #romania #monarchyJul 24 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz The Free Technology Academy needs your help! http://ur1.ca/4rytk #education and #LinuxJul 24 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Teroristul norvegian, un admirator al lui Vlad Ţepeş http://tinyurl.com/3vxpduj #romania #tepesJul 24 14:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Why he did it 2tu.us/3f4sJul 24 14:37
DaemonFCugghJul 24 14:39
DaemonFCI think I need a shower nowJul 24 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Anyone still having issues with the !LO feeds?Jul 24 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] @fabsh Re-subscribing solved all issues with double entries for me. !LOJul 24 15:15
schestowitzok, I'm backJul 24 15:27
schestowitz_Goblin: is Snit around yet?Jul 24 15:27
*schestowitz showers quickly..Jul 24 15:28
_Goblinschestowitz: I think he wanted to record around 5pmJul 24 15:28
_Goblinschestowitz: our time.....Jul 24 15:28
_Goblinschestowitz: he is around in COLA though.Jul 24 15:28
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/77007407#notice-79582228 http://identi.ca/notice/79582228 http://identi.ca/notice/79584347 http://identi.ca/notice/79584452Jul 24 15:29
schestowitz4pm he agreed with meJul 24 15:29
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TechrightsBot-tr@Johnny Null (johnnynull)'s status on Sunday, 24-Jul-11 12:48:30 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Either way, you'd need the raw materials. TANSTAAFLJul 24 15:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Johnny Null (johnnynull)'s status on Sunday, 24-Jul-11 13:34:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I wonder if Mr. Raymond thinks that my name truly is Johnny Null?Jul 24 15:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Johnny Null (johnnynull)'s status on Sunday, 24-Jul-11 13:36:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I also don't get the need for esoterics, Google == data == ads. Why waste cycles getting philosophical?Jul 24 15:29
schestowitzbrbJul 24 15:29
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SnitHelloJul 24 15:30
Snit1/2 hour to show time, right?Jul 24 15:31
SnitDo we do video or just voice?Jul 24 15:31
SnitOr do Roy and I do video and Goblin voice to protect his identity?Jul 24 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right. Thats it. Gwibber has let me down for the last time.Jul 24 15:34
_GoblinSnit: 1/2 sounds good...... no videoJul 24 15:35
SnitGoblin: Oh, I thought there was.  Ok... no problemJul 24 15:36
_GoblinSnit: I was thinking.....  as a sort of starter topic..... Android/iPhone ? (If Roy is happy too)Jul 24 15:36
SnitI need to run to get kid's breakfast but I will be back in 1/2 hour... well... a bit less now.  :)Jul 24 15:36
SnitHmmmm, I have little to say on that.Jul 24 15:36
SnitI was thinking two main topics: my views on Linux (split between general and then focused on desktop Linux) and then I would like to ask Roy some questions about his views.  The first topic I expect to be longer (the second half of the first topic, anyway)Jul 24 15:37
SnitBut I am open... Jul 24 15:37
SnitAnyway... need to run for a bitJul 24 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @parmegv @openattitude: Slide show: 12 things you see everyday that wouldn't exist without #Linux. | Business Insider http://ur1.ca/4r4cjJul 24 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @unsub HTG Explains: What Are the Differences Between #Linux Shells? - How-To Geek http://ur1.ca/4rxi0Jul 24 15:42
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schestowitzSnit: I'm readyJul 24 15:42
_Goblin2 minsJul 24 15:46
DaemonFCschestowitz: Calligra has pretty good Office Fauxpen XML importJul 24 15:46
DaemonFCI don't want export I just want it to render well enough to make a PDF or something :PJul 24 15:47
_Goblinschestowitz: Im onlineJul 24 15:48
DaemonFChahaJul 24 15:49
DaemonFCoh that damned refrigerator Jul 24 15:49
DaemonFCstupid landlordJul 24 15:49
DaemonFCgives me this piece of crap from 1992 and then complains about the electric billJul 24 15:49
_Goblinschestowitz: you call me now...Jul 24 16:03
_Goblinschestowitz: then you will have to phone MichaelJul 24 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @afiestas: Attention all #kde users, we're looking for suggestions on how the "Share connection" interface should look, ideas?Jul 24 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] morning !IdentiverseJul 24 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @silner: RD @afiestas: Attention all #kde users, we're looking for suggestions on how the "Share connection" interface should look, ideas?Jul 24 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @reality I finally wrote a blog post about Javascript: http://nourishedcloud.com/blog/the-wonderful-and-frightening-world-of-javascri ...Jul 24 16:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @fontana haven't I seen the point being made that license goes to federal courts while contract goes to state courts?Jul 24 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Gunman kills self, 5 others at Texas roller rink http://is.gd/RvCwTY will #WSJ pounce on this as "obviously alqueda" like the Norway attack?Jul 24 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] The thing we dreaded has come to pass: #Twitter adding "promoted tweets" also known as ads to users tweetstreams later ... http://b1t.it/sRYJul 24 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android's UK market grew by 634 percent in a year - Evan Hugh (blog) http://goo.gl/wEhUjJul 24 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Twitter is too important to be owned by Twitter http://2tu.us/3f50Jul 24 17:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @unhosted New definition of security? a Linux-based distro whose source code is only open to the US DoD http://ur1.ca/4r1br /via http ...Jul 24 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A US particle machine has seen possible hints of the Higgs boson http://goo.gl/ypOsZJul 24 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] I know #Maemo is #debian-based (before someone starts to correct me).Jul 24 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "All those moments will be lost... in time, like... tears in rain. Time to die."Jul 24 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Benefits assessment firm causing 'fear and loathing' among claimants, says MP http://is.gd/2t55RjJul 24 18:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Benefits assessment firm causing 'fear and loathing' among claimants, says MP | Politics | The Guardian .::. Size~: 147.59 KBJul 24 18:30
schestowitz_Goblin: Snit adding the tracks nowJul 24 18:35
schestowitzit came out good qualityJul 24 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Smartphone Wars: Expectation and Surprise - http://bit.ly/o66duY yeah, me and Eric together on this oneJul 24 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @davidmarsden I have ended my affair with G+. I'm sorry, Identi.ca. It didn't mean anything, honest.Jul 24 18:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Armed and Dangerous  » Blog Archive   » The Smartphone Wars: Expectation and Surprise .::. Size~: 40.67 KBJul 24 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @zotz Issues of contract interpretation are generally matters of state law (thus in federal copyright case court might apply state law)Jul 24 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] slowly becoming human, one sip at a timeJul 24 18:40
SnitSchestowitz and Goblin: I have my recording, but my voice is significantly louder than the two of you... so not very good.Jul 24 18:41
SnitMy first solution would be to have my voice be on one "track" and you two on another... but so be it.Jul 24 18:42
SnitThat is what I get for using beta software I had not tested for this.  :)  It comes with an audio driver for recording computer audio which, apparently, needed to be updated for Lion.Jul 24 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] It Was Never About The Money, Stupid - http://bit.ly/mZGRUi great analysis of why #copyright industries aren't just wrong, they're cluelessJul 24 18:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: It Was Never About The Money, Stupid | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 29.36 KBJul 24 18:44
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schestowitzwill take 5 hours to encode all3 filesJul 24 18:46
schestowitzi'll publish this at 2am my timeJul 24 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @zotz oh, I misread your dentJul 24 18:47
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/95101331018235904 http://twitter.com/Kai_Mast/statuses/95109845572784128Jul 24 18:52
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: If everything we owned could be copied -- cars for example -- would we share them by making exact copies at zero cost?Jul 24 18:52
TechrightsBot-tr@Kai_Mast: @schestowitz why shouldn't we share them?Jul 24 18:52
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/94829430844825601Jul 24 18:53
TechrightsBot-tr@qu1j0t3: .@winterthur Once one realises corporate media is arranged to maintain the deadly "consensus" it is logical to avoid it all @schestowitz #tvJul 24 18:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @zotz in such cases, sw license assumed to be contract. Issue: can you sue on copyright infringement theory or just contract breach theoryJul 24 18:59
amarsh04http://www.watoday.com.au/opinion/big-players-come-out-when-freedom-of-the-press-is-under-the-microscope-20110723-1hu8m.htmlJul 24 18:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Big players come out when freedom of the press is under the microscope .::. Size~: 124.19 KBJul 24 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110724 #sip_and_clickJul 24 19:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: coffee.jezra: a coffee a day photo project | 2011-07-24 .::. Size~: 3.79 KBJul 24 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] [Phoronix] !GNOME & !KDE Developers Go To Battle Over A Name http://ping.fm/1pmd9Jul 24 19:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Security Theater Lessons From Utøya - http://bit.ly/nzDlpi why Blairite, authoritarian visions of "security" will never save us from horrorsJul 24 19:12
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koolhead17hi allJul 24 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] A must read for anyone who wants to know the truth about software patents: http://is.gd/z5PAPyJul 24 19:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intellectual Ventures And The War Over Software Patents : Planet Money : NPR .::. Size~: 90.49 KBJul 24 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rkallensee RT @timoreilly: Worth reading: 60 days in WebOS land: an Android users perspective http://bit.ly/rekdRkJul 24 19:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 60 days in WebOS land: an Android users perspective – Cell Phones & Mobile Device Technology News & Updates | Geek.com .::. Size~: 68.41 KBJul 24 19:19
schestowitzHello, koolhead17Jul 24 19:23
koolhead17schestowitz what is going on my friend?Jul 24 19:24
_Goblinschestowitz: cool....sorry, I was afkJul 24 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Just finished recording with Michael Glasser on the TechBytes show.... great chap!Jul 24 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] http://lists.harmonyagreements.org/pipermail/harmony-review/2011-July/000032.html #Blender #HarmonyJul 24 19:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Harmony-Review] Harmony agreement question .::. Size~: 4.87 KBJul 24 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fontana: yes, that holiday time point is interesting: wonder if it's had a much bigger impact than we suspect...Jul 24 19:47
schestowitzogg encodedJul 24 20:00
schestowitznow the 2 mp3 version (1 small file for slow connections/PMPs)Jul 24 20:00
schestowitzkoolhead17: i dunno man! what's happening my brother? [sounds like marvin gaye]Jul 24 20:00
koolhead17schestowitz :D Jul 24 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @x11r5 @speeddefrost Idiots calling in to '606' discussing lampard's 'goal' which they haven't actually seen. God - some people are t ...Jul 24 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] David Hicks: Guantanamo guard speaks out; goodbye media filters (video) http://t.co/MFPPuhtJul 24 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Aaron Swartz has been declared a "pirate" by his enemies; congratulations Aaron! http://bit.ly/qDXJVx "Activist" is more appropriateJul 24 20:14
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schestowitzi have an article coming about the patent troll from MumbaiJul 24 20:15
schestowitzdaemon will love this.. http://i.imgur.com/v9etA.jpgJul 24 20:19
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schestowitzhttp://imgur.com/FP8QpJul 24 20:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Keep Dreaming Girl - Imgur .::. Size~: 9.16 KBJul 24 20:20
schestowitzGood oneJul 24 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Have you seen Intellectual Ventures response to the NPR program @schestowitz ? http://j.mp/pLwok2 Predictable, just making sure you saw itJul 24 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] More on Richard Dawkins, elevatorgate and the 'chilly climate' for women Emily Band CIF http://t.co/gtcmTn5 / @AtheneDonaldJul 24 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intellectual Ventures responds to This American Life exposé: ‘We fundamentally disagree’ - GeekWire .::. Size~: 82.49 KBJul 24 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard Dawkins, check the evidence on the 'chilly climate' for women | Emily Band | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 235.09 KBJul 24 20:25
koolhead17schestowitz when?Jul 24 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is jargon with 176 dents!Jul 24 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "can't expect to own generic names across desktops." -Shaun McCance in http://ur1.ca/4rxaw #gnome #kde #what http://ur1.ca/4s2pk / @arielmtJul 24 20:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @reality: JAVASCRIPTJul 24 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "could you imagine any US politician saying that" http://ur1.ca/4s2vxJul 24 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why the !Google+ no pseudonym policy may be discriminatory http://bit.ly/nLp9WC via link by @jackschofield @bug_girlJul 24 21:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @pmate ♻ @iurie European Parliament Study Confirms ACTA Must Be Rejected - http://is.gd/rIR0TT !fsfe !fsf !debianizzatiJul 24 21:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Parliament Study Confirms ACTA Must Be Rejected | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 29.23 KBJul 24 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @rms Business lobby wants Congress to legalize bribery <http://ur1.ca/4s30z> by weakening Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. #MurdochJul 24 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @rms State Department has obstructed government oversight <http://ur1.ca/4s312> of its mercenary army in #Iraq.Jul 24 21:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] self-made caprese salad is a great thing - I do need to find better tomatoes somewhere nearby... #JoyOfCookingJul 24 21:19
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MinceRhttp://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2011/07/22/apple-laptops-vulnerable-to-hack-that-kills-or-corrupts-batteries/Jul 24 21:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Laptops Vulnerable To Hack That Kills Or Corrupts Batteries - Andy Greenberg - The Firewall - Forbes .::. Size~: 126.47 KBJul 24 21:27
schestowitzexcellentJul 24 21:30
schestowitzcan it make it explode, or does SCOny have a monopoly on that functionality?Jul 24 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] hard work underway in the Warsaw Hackerspace: ur1.ca/4s348 #kser #hswaw /cc @hackerspaceplJul 24 21:30
MinceRtheoretically it might be possibleJul 24 21:34
MinceRunless the hardware-based safeguards prevent itJul 24 21:34
MinceR(those wires that melt if the battery overheats)Jul 24 21:35
schestowitzhttp://blogs.forbes.com/oreillymedia/2011/07/22/proprietary-software-isnt-evil/Jul 24 21:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Proprietary software isn’t evil - O'Reilly Media - O'Reilly Insights - Forbes .::. Size~: 109.99 KBJul 24 21:35
schestowitzNow FOrbes picks ORLY pieces that help its agenda?Jul 24 21:36
schestowitzI remember when Forbes covered Boycott NovellJul 24 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @quaid RHEV 3.0 beta demo'd at BriForum: http://bit.ly/nR2Ujp including #PUP - power-user interface for self-service VM management.Jul 24 21:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat DEMO Lab video, from BriForum 2011 Chicago - More Videos - BrianMadden.com .::. Size~: 41.32 KBJul 24 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] First time on Delta from SG to Portland, Oregon via Narita. Don't disappoint me! #fb http://ur1.ca/4s35jJul 24 21:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: https://file.status.net/i/identica/harishpillay-20110724T204016-7zp7ksp.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.45 KBJul 24 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] OMG! Had no idea Lene Marlin was Norwegian! Pedersen,Lene Marlin Pederson. I take back every bad I have ever said about Norway.Jul 24 21:44
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/07/linux-kernel-version-bumped-up-to-30-as-20th-birthday-approaches.arsJul 24 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux kernel version bumped up to 3.0 as 20th birthday approaches .::. Size~: 31.65 KBJul 24 21:51
schestowitzRyan is back  to posting more oftenJul 24 21:52
schestowitzGoogle Music Manager dusts off tuxedo, makes Linux debutJul 24 21:55
schestowitzlulzJul 24 21:56
schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-20082302-248/researcher-mac-notebook-batteries-can-be-hacked/Jul 24 21:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Researcher: Mac notebook batteries can be hacked | Apple Talk - CNET News .::. Size~: 147.12 KBJul 24 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @andreklapper Learning from the Norway attacks how the press works: Christian fanatic= lone madman operator, but Muslim= a problem of ...Jul 24 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice Conference Call for Papers deadline extended: http://conference.libreoffice.org/submit-your-paper/ !libo !tdf !liboconJul 24 21:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Submit your paper » LibreOffice Conference .::. Size~: 12.05 KBJul 24 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @floeff LibreOffice Conference Call for Papers deadline extended: http://conference.libreoffice.org/submit-your-paper/ !libo !tdf !li ...Jul 24 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "No, this is a sobering reminder for those who think it's too tedious to reserve judgment about horrifying events...." http://nd.gd/svJul 24 22:05
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schestowitz[21:59] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [eebrah/@eebrah] RT @andreklapper Learning from the Norway attacks how the press works: Christian fanatic= lone madman operator, but Muslim= a problem of ...Jul 24 22:07
schestowitzLike many people have warned..Jul 24 22:07
schestowitzExtremism in itself is an issue, as well as delusion and perceived reward 'after life', like 73 virginsJul 24 22:08
schestowitzIMHO, lack of superstition can promote empathyJul 24 22:09
schestowitz[20:25] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [silner/@silner] More on Richard Dawkins, elevatorgate Jul 24 22:10
schestowitzOh, no.. does he still waste time on this?Jul 24 22:10
schestowitzSome woman invited politely for coffee and whines..Jul 24 22:10
MinceRlolJul 24 22:10
schestowitzInstead of feelinh flatteredJul 24 22:10
schestowitzMinceR: I told youJul 24 22:10
schestowitzYou saw the video, Dawkins weighed in to say it's a waste of timeJul 24 22:11
schestowitzThere are many factions to feminismJul 24 22:11
schestowitzSome more militantJul 24 22:11
schestowitzAnd each disowns the otherJul 24 22:11
schestowitzSame in atheismJul 24 22:11
schestowitzThey are loners thereJul 24 22:11
schestowitzAnd those who try to band together and make politics of itJul 24 22:11
schestowitzAnd in patentsJul 24 22:11
schestowitzOpposition to software patents does not come in a single flavourJul 24 22:12
schestowitzSome devide between goog ena bad patent (or theirs and orhers')Jul 24 22:12
schestowitzSome call the just software patents to dieJul 24 22:12
schestowitzSome want all patents to dueJul 24 22:12
schestowitzSome want patents as a temporary/interim solutionJul 24 22:12
schestowitzAnd some only pretend to be against themJul 24 22:12
schestowitz"Elevatorgate"Jul 24 22:13
schestowitzLOLJul 24 22:13
schestowitzSome due goes like, "hey, wanna come talk over coffee"Jul 24 22:13
schestowitzAnd he makes hinstoryJul 24 22:13
schestowitzDamn, I wish I could get this mucn attention by asking someone for coffeeJul 24 22:13
schestowitzAn Internet storm to ensure :>Jul 24 22:13
schestowitzensueJul 24 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @richslxh Well I've had my last moan till they do something else; besides they actually asked for feedback :)Jul 24 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana why would a contract that grants a limited © license prevent a © infringement lawsuit?!?Jul 24 22:15
schestowitzKid: "Mommy...How did WW3 start?"Jul 24 22:16
schestowitzAdult: "some dude asked a girl if she wants coffee"Jul 24 22:16
schestowitz!google hungary austria trigger world war 2Jul 24 22:16
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Causes of World War I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_World_War_IJul 24 22:16
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Causes of World War 1 | Top Causes That Led to World War I | http://americanhistory.about.com/od/worldwari/tp/causes-of-world-war-1.htmJul 24 22:16
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Causes of World War One | http://www.historyonthenet.com/WW1/causes.htmJul 24 22:16
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - First World War.com - Feature Articles - The Causes of World War One | http://www.firstworldwar.com/origins/causes.htmJul 24 22:16
schestowitz"The explosive that was World War One had been long in the stockpiling; the spark was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne"Jul 24 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm just coming back to !choqok for the first time in a while; can anyone remind me; what's the difference is when you tick Choqok style RT?Jul 24 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Am I right in thinking that Google+ spams non-members with emails? If so, Im sorry to put you on my contacts.Jul 24 22:17
schestowitz'It did so by issuing an ultimatum to Serbia which, in the extent of its demand that the assassins be brought to justice effectively nullified Serbia's sovereignty.  Sir Edward Grey, the British Foreign Secretary, was moved to comment that he had "never before seen one State address to another independent State a document of so formidable a character."'Jul 24 22:17
schestowitz"It did so by issuing an ultimatum to Serbia which, in the extent of its demand that the assassins be brought to justice effectively nullified Serbia's sovereignty.  Sir Edward Grey, the British Foreign Secretary, was moved to comment that he had "never before seen one State address to another independent State a document of so formidable a character.""Jul 24 22:19
schestowitzHow bizarre. In WW2 it sidles with the other sideJul 24 22:19
schestowitz"Italy, although allied to both Germany and Austria-Hungary, was able to avoid entering the fray by citing a clause enabling it to evade its obligations to both.  In short, Italy was committed to defend Germany and Austria-Hungary only in the event of a 'defensive' war; arguing that their actions were 'offensive' she declared instead a policy of neutrality.  The following year, in May 1915, she finally joined the conflict by siding Jul 24 22:19
schestowitzwith the Allies against her two former allies."Jul 24 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek&Poke: Good Coders http://goo.gl/lvGdYJul 24 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @openbytes: Am I right in thinking that Google+ spams non-members with emails? If so, Im sorry to put you on my contacts +1Jul 24 22:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @richslxh It doesn't mean they have to change, but that doesn't mean the opponents have to stay quiet. Both stances are fine, I'd sayJul 24 22:30
schestowitznnJul 24 22:36
schestowitz_Goblin: encoding last file now, will publish at 2amJul 24 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana if you agree to “I let you do A; B would require separate © permission”, then do B, it can't be contract breachJul 24 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana OTOH, if it says “you must not do B; it would require separate © permission”, then it could be both breach and © infringementJul 24 22:39
_Goblinschestowitz: cool...probably won't get the show notes out tonight then.Jul 24 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana now, if there's doubt as to whether contract includes required © permission to do B, I'm not sure where to goJul 24 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @hook RT @iurie European Parliament Study Confirms ACTA Must Be Rejected - http://is.gd/rIR0TT !fsfe !fsfJul 24 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @mairin i love hearing from people who haven't been poor a day in their life that the country needs to 'cut up' its credit cards whil ...Jul 24 22:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @lxoliva I find the case law in this area unsatisfyingJul 24 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] M @tahtouhg: "Muslims are bad. When bad things happen, Muslims are responsible." Mainstream view in the US today ur1.ca/4s3zh #osloJul 24 22:50
cubezzzlooking at a list of films in the public domain...Jul 24 22:51
cubezzzsome didn't have a copyright notice at allJul 24 22:52
cubezzzor there was a failure to renewJul 24 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @fontana I don't know, I just seem to remember someone trying to make such a point. Perhaps making things more costly due to fight re place?Jul 24 22:54
cubezzz75 years, then extented to 95 yearsJul 24 22:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RT @glynmoody It Was Never About The Money, Stupid - http://bit.ly/mZGRUi great analysis of why #copyright industries aren't just wrong, ...Jul 24 23:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @R_Swetenham: EU - Implementation of a European Commission open data portal: Call for tenders to purchas http://p.ost.im/p/eePwXjJul 24 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @epsiplatform: Call for Proposals: "Scientific data: open access, dissemination, preservation and use" # http://p.ost.im/p/ee9jxRJul 24 23:17
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sebsebsebhiJul 24 23:27
schestowitz_Goblin: next week I'm away... at the labJul 24 23:27
schestowitzbut will come back in AugustJul 24 23:27
sebsebsebschestowitz: Android = consumer main stream Linux ?Jul 24 23:28
sebsebsebseems soJul 24 23:28
sebsebsebschestowitz: what was that a reply to _Goblin about Techbytes or something?Jul 24 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana as in, there isn't enough to tell for sure, or it goes the wrong way?Jul 24 23:34
_Goblinschestowitz: yeahJul 24 23:39
sebsebseb_Goblin: yeah to what I just joined?Jul 24 23:41
*sebsebseb is thinking about Android at the moment, and how good or bad it is for Linux reallyJul 24 23:41
sebsebsebor maybe not just Linux itself, but well  opensource/freesoftware  distributions :)Jul 24 23:41
sebsebsebof any kindJul 24 23:41
sebsebsebany Linux OSJul 24 23:41
_Goblinsebsebseb: Its good for the consumer.....or end-user...I think thats the most important thingJul 24 23:43
sebsebseb_Goblin: well uhmmJul 24 23:43
sebsebsebmy older brother has a Android phone for a while nowJul 24 23:43
sebsebseb,butJul 24 23:43
sebsebsebsince like yesterdayJul 24 23:43
_Goblinbtw you on Google+?Jul 24 23:43
sebsebsebmy Dad has a Android tabletJul 24 23:43
sebsebseb_Goblin: no not yet, and if you don't use your real name on it, your account may get removedJul 24 23:43
_Goblinonly corporate I'd guessJul 24 23:44
schestowitzsebsebseb: which tablet?Jul 24 23:44
sebsebsebschestowitz: not sure yetJul 24 23:44
schestowitzokJul 24 23:44
sebsebseb,but anywayJul 24 23:44
sebsebsebwellJul 24 23:44
sebsebsebmy Dad is kind of anti Linux reallyJul 24 23:44
sebsebsebI meanJul 24 23:44
sebsebsebhe doesn't really care about OS'sJul 24 23:44
sebsebsebor that's the impression I get every time I say anything to him about themJul 24 23:44
schestowitz:-)Jul 24 23:44
sebsebseband so he's like Linux, it's jsut an OS, so whatJul 24 23:45
sebsebsebkind  of thingJul 24 23:45
sebsebsebhe doesn't understand why OS's can matterJul 24 23:45
sebsebsebhe's very much so a consumer when it comes to tech as I found out quite a few years agoJul 24 23:45
schestowitzthat's okJul 24 23:45
sebsebsebI remember when I was younger I used to think he was quite good at technolgoy, or reasonably, becasue he could open up a computer and do  fix the hardware and that kind of thingJul 24 23:45
sebsebsebanywayJul 24 23:46
sebsebsebpretty sure I told him before that Android is run by LinuxJul 24 23:46
sebsebsebso uhmm yeah he's there with this Android tablet messing doing stuff with itJul 24 23:46
sebsebsebandJul 24 23:46
sebsebsebmy little brother is taking an interest in it as wellJul 24 23:46
sebsebseband so I say to him basically as a kind of joke :)  not sure if you should be  using thisk, and so he's like why?Jul 24 23:47
sebsebseband I say, because Android runs LinuxJul 24 23:47
sebsebsebAndroid is run by LinuxJul 24 23:47
sebsebseband then the useual thing about not really caring about OS'sJul 24 23:47
sebsebsebtheJul 24 23:47
sebsebseboh it's just an OSJul 24 23:47
sebsebsebthingJul 24 23:47
sebsebseband I am like well many differnet OS's realy distributionsJul 24 23:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin Honestly these kind of people,  if it was a Windows device that was all popular instead,  oh many of them would be happy using that, I expect.Jul 24 23:48
sebsebsebThey don't know or care what makes Android kind of special compared to a lot of the other's.Jul 24 23:49
schestowitzthat's okJul 24 23:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: Well yes and noJul 24 23:50
sebsebsebreallyJul 24 23:50
sebsebsebin a way it's annoying, becasue a lot of people are using these devices, and not really understanding what they are using exactly, and why that's special.Jul 24 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @bitcoininfo MOTHER HUBBARD IN A VAGINA http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=31444.msg395689#msg395689 | BTC-EUR: 7 EUR-BTC: 100 ...Jul 24 23:50
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/RV1jI.pngJul 24 23:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @bitcoininfo THIS FORUM IS FOR LOLBERTARIANS http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=31445.msg395693#msg395693 |Jul 24 23:52
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schestowitzLOL http://i.imgur.com/AgCfD.jpgJul 24 23:52
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sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin  When's the next Techbytes? I am behind anywayJul 24 23:55
schestowitz2amJul 24 23:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh you doing one tonight?Jul 24 23:55
schestowitzstill uploading the 3 filesJul 24 23:55
sebsebseboh done one already?Jul 24 23:55
schestowitznoJul 24 23:55
schestowitzwhen are you on?Jul 24 23:55
schestowitzand mageia's reps/people?Jul 24 23:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: maybe next week for me, or not, I mean  I got my birthday on the Sunday  and then going away on holiday to SwedenJul 24 23:56
sebsebsebas for this other guy uhmm I don't know,  got to chat to him again about that, plus I want to be on it first anywayJul 24 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @bitcoininfo JOIN SOMETHINGAWFUL http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=31450.msg395706#msg395706 | BTC-EUR: 7 EUR-BTC: 100 #bitcoi ...Jul 24 23:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What does the !choqok dialog, "this method requires authentication" refer to?Jul 24 23:59

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