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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/101209674031960065 | Aug 10 09:48 |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/101209674031960065 | Aug 10 09:49 |
TechrightsSocial | @davidgerard: @schestowitz administering stuff is a PITA. though wordpress.com is a good exportable compromise. | Aug 10 09:49 |
schestowitz | giving another party control can be a cure against DDOS and software errors, but at the expense of control | Aug 10 09:49 |
schestowitz | Can't Have It Both Ways http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44ilZq3R900&feature=digest | Aug 10 10:24 |
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schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwDo1uB-CBk | Aug 10 10:34 |
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schestowitz | The right wingers are being fuelled here by these riots... http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell#p/a/f/1/PL8JUElL0ws | Aug 10 10:39 |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/78020511#notice-80636304 http://identi.ca/notice/80636304 | Aug 10 13:33 |
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TechrightsSocial | @agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 12:11:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz At last good news... | Aug 10 13:33 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY-IXd3IKfE&feature=youtube_gdata | Aug 10 13:34 |
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schestowitz | New http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQe4j66INCQ&feature=youtube_gdata | Aug 10 13:36 |
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schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675 | Aug 10 13:41 |
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sebsebseb | hi | Aug 10 15:30 |
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ender_33 | anything not from the state funded BBC? | Aug 10 15:49 |
ender_33 | 1432: Housing minister Grant Shapps | Aug 10 15:51 |
ender_33 | tells BBC News that anyone found to be involved in the violent outbreaks across England, should be "very mindful" of participating in the unrest because it could affect their eligibility for public housing in the future. | Aug 10 15:51 |
ender_33 | fun | Aug 10 15:51 |
ender_33 | poverty | Aug 10 15:51 |
MinceR | interesting method of handling the situation | Aug 10 15:52 |
qu1j0t3 | lol | Aug 10 15:53 |
qu1j0t3 | the public statements all seem to be adding gasoline to a fire. not that I am surprised. | Aug 10 15:54 |
qu1j0t3 | it's all exactly as expected | Aug 10 15:54 |
ender_33 | problem reaction solution | Aug 10 15:54 |
qu1j0t3 | ender_33: problem, reaction, double the problem. it's traditional. | Aug 10 15:54 |
ender_33 | create the problem, wait for the reaction and offer the solution | Aug 10 15:54 |
qu1j0t3 | yes, but the solution is just more problem. | Aug 10 15:54 |
ender_33 | works every time | Aug 10 15:54 |
ender_33 | its recursive, because the solution causes problems which cause more reactions which need even more solutions | Aug 10 15:55 |
ender_33 | terror alert! terror down! terror up! terror down! lets change it up a little.... code green, code red, code green. etc | Aug 10 15:56 |
ender_33 | ie US DOD | Aug 10 15:56 |
ender_33 | lol | Aug 10 15:56 |
ender_33 | we're going from the DEFCON system to simply 'We're fucked' | Aug 10 15:56 |
qu1j0t3 | right | Aug 10 15:57 |
ender_33 | ill be right back, gotta reboot this damn SL box again | Aug 10 15:58 |
qu1j0t3 | it will keep looping until somebody actually acknowledges the motivations for the riots | Aug 10 15:58 |
qu1j0t3 | which isn't going to happen in the current systemic framework. | Aug 10 15:58 |
qu1j0t3 | ender_33: software update? | Aug 10 15:58 |
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schestowitz | qu1j0t3: if this is played up by the government, then they do a poor job | Aug 10 16:09 |
schestowitz | What it does here right now is raise racism | Aug 10 16:09 |
schestowitz | Which the government actually tries to eliminate, except right-wing parties/groups like EDL, UKIP, BNP.. | Aug 10 16:10 |
schestowitz | people -- like most animals -- are racist by their nature. the group belonging bit. We're no better than other animals, just the dominant animals at this time. | Aug 10 16:10 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the government has been doing a poor job for decades and they're not stopping now. | Aug 10 16:11 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: their objective is not good management | Aug 10 16:12 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: as we know | Aug 10 16:12 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: which explains events perfectly :) | Aug 10 16:12 |
schestowitz | chaos ane racial wars weaken Cameron, he would lose to right wing fanatics | Aug 10 16:13 |
schestowitz | which is not good for the higher class, either | Aug 10 16:13 |
qu1j0t3 | Cameron is useless, i don't care about his fate. | Aug 10 16:14 |
qu1j0t3 | as useless as Obama | Aug 10 16:14 |
qu1j0t3 | and the same function | Aug 10 16:15 |
schestowitz | yes | Aug 10 16:26 |
schestowitz | but it won't change in either country any time soon | Aug 10 16:26 |
schestowitz | Maybe Michellle Bashmann will be next US president, maybe Palin (is she still running?) | Aug 10 16:26 |
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schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14372698 | Aug 10 16:31 |
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schestowitz | doesn't say "piracy" | Aug 10 16:32 |
schestowitz | Progress? | Aug 10 16:32 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: right. i don't see any change. however, JPBarlow correctly predicted riots in the US sooner or later. | Aug 10 16:35 |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80639074 | Aug 10 16:43 |
TechrightsSocial | @Ted Smith (tedks)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 13:19:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Don't do the cops job for them -- there are enough people fighting the class war from the side of the rich already | Aug 10 16:43 |
schestowitz | I would rather have cops catch looters than not | Aug 10 16:43 |
schestowitz | http://imgur.com/8TZgd | Aug 10 16:44 |
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qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the problem from my pov is that "arson" and "looting" overwhelm any discussion of the real issues. this is deliberately reinforced bythe media and govt... it's just too easy | Aug 10 16:45 |
qu1j0t3 | happens in every protest for the last X decades | Aug 10 16:45 |
qu1j0t3 | those people not directly affected (i.e. what's left of the lower middle class and upwards) WANT to ignore the issues and the media reaction allows them to | Aug 10 16:46 |
schestowitz | I know | Aug 10 16:46 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: in this way, no progress can occur. | Aug 10 16:46 |
schestowitz | There's a mixture of groups in there | Aug 10 16:46 |
schestowitz | Some are like fish swimming near the shrps | Aug 10 16:46 |
qu1j0t3 | yes of course, this is a given | Aug 10 16:46 |
schestowitz | hookedm kids waiting for an open door somewhere | Aug 10 16:46 |
qu1j0t3 | yes | Aug 10 16:47 |
qu1j0t3 | but this isn't interesting | Aug 10 16:47 |
schestowitz | Some have racial grievances | Aug 10 16:47 |
qu1j0t3 | everybody intelligent knows this | Aug 10 16:47 |
schestowitz | Some class issues | Aug 10 16:47 |
schestowitz | But it's not a riot of one group | Aug 10 16:47 |
schestowitz | It's like a medley | Aug 10 16:47 |
qu1j0t3 | of course | Aug 10 16:47 |
schestowitz | White too | Aug 10 16:47 |
qu1j0t3 | but you see, the unreflective want a simple package | Aug 10 16:47 |
schestowitz | I was there to see it myself, at my own risk with two strogn friends | Aug 10 16:47 |
qu1j0t3 | "they're all criminals, shoot them all" | Aug 10 16:47 |
qu1j0t3 | that's the reaction you hear from Murdoch's army | Aug 10 16:47 |
schestowitz | You can't put a label on the whole thing | Aug 10 16:47 |
qu1j0t3 | and the right wing | Aug 10 16:47 |
qu1j0t3 | the majority are protesting social injustice, schestowitz ... | Aug 10 16:48 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: by definition. | Aug 10 16:48 |
schestowitz | The looters are | Aug 10 16:48 |
schestowitz | And vandals | Aug 10 16:48 |
qu1j0t3 | heh, no | Aug 10 16:48 |
schestowitz | Not all were | Aug 10 16:48 |
qu1j0t3 | the majority are. by definition. | Aug 10 16:48 |
schestowitz | Some people there came to observe | Aug 10 16:48 |
schestowitz | We saw some pretty girls there too | Aug 10 16:48 |
qu1j0t3 | if you don't understand that, then you need to study 20thC riots | Aug 10 16:48 |
schestowitz | They didn't participate inthe looting | Aug 10 16:48 |
schestowitz | They wanted an opportunity for the 'underclass' | Aug 10 16:48 |
qu1j0t3 | sure, there are always middle class rubberneckers. | Aug 10 16:49 |
qu1j0t3 | they got caught up in the G20 too | Aug 10 16:49 |
qu1j0t3 | and because they were assaulted, arrested and abused like those who went to protest, | Aug 10 16:49 |
schestowitz | yeah | Aug 10 16:49 |
qu1j0t3 | they were radicalised. | Aug 10 16:49 |
qu1j0t3 | that's how it works. | Aug 10 16:49 |
qu1j0t3 | thank god | Aug 10 16:49 |
schestowitz | this was not a protest | Aug 10 16:49 |
qu1j0t3 | yes, it is. | Aug 10 16:49 |
schestowitz | I think that's the difference | Aug 10 16:49 |
schestowitz | no, not In Manc | Aug 10 16:49 |
qu1j0t3 | it's a direct continuation of UK Uncut | Aug 10 16:49 |
schestowitz | There was no real protest | Aug 10 16:49 |
schestowitz | No signs, no leaders, nothing | Aug 10 16:49 |
qu1j0t3 | well, that may be so in Manc | Aug 10 16:50 |
schestowitz | Just astray people looking for interesting events | Aug 10 16:50 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: you tihink London | Aug 10 16:50 |
qu1j0t3 | if there's no protest, schestowitz, then the police will have no trouble containing it. | Aug 10 16:50 |
schestowitz | That's where it started | Aug 10 16:50 |
qu1j0t3 | the police cannot contain real protest. | Aug 10 16:50 |
schestowitz | here it was just totally disirganised | Aug 10 16:50 |
schestowitz | kids looking to disrupt stuff and mess with the cops | Aug 10 16:50 |
qu1j0t3 | then the police will control it quickly | Aug 10 16:50 |
qu1j0t3 | the only thing the cops can't handle is a real protest | Aug 10 16:50 |
schestowitz | The problem is they pass new laws now | Aug 10 16:51 |
qu1j0t3 | there are never enough numbers for a criminal action to get out of hand | Aug 10 16:51 |
schestowitz | And phase in rubber bullets | Aug 10 16:51 |
qu1j0t3 | haha, rubber bullets were used at g20 | Aug 10 16:51 |
schestowitz | THis will help them when real protests occur and they'll have public support | Aug 10 16:51 |
qu1j0t3 | where there was no violence by protesters | Aug 10 16:51 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: we're long past that point. | Aug 10 16:51 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: google rubber bullets | Aug 10 16:51 |
schestowitz | I know | Aug 10 16:52 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you'll see hundreds of white middle class kids with horrendous wounds | Aug 10 16:52 |
schestowitz | Many oppressors use them | Aug 10 16:52 |
qu1j0t3 | nobody gives a fuck | Aug 10 16:52 |
schestowitz | As an 'ethical' defence | Aug 10 16:52 |
qu1j0t3 | "if you're on the streets you're a criminal" | Aug 10 16:52 |
qu1j0t3 | ^^ this is what Murdoch has achieved | Aug 10 16:52 |
schestowitz | Not really | Aug 10 16:52 |
schestowitz | See.. | Aug 10 16:52 |
schestowitz | Here at least.. | Aug 10 16:52 |
qu1j0t3 | yes, really. | Aug 10 16:52 |
schestowitz | There were no protesters | Aug 10 16:52 |
schestowitz | Curious people like me | Aug 10 16:52 |
qu1j0t3 | in MAC! | Aug 10 16:52 |
qu1j0t3 | manc! | Aug 10 16:52 |
schestowitz | And troublemakers | Aug 10 16:52 |
qu1j0t3 | i'm referring to the riots. | Aug 10 16:52 |
schestowitz | No protest | Aug 10 16:52 |
qu1j0t3 | Manc is a non-issue | Aug 10 16:52 |
schestowitz | I don't know about Londom from eyewitness account | Aug 10 16:53 |
qu1j0t3 | if there is no protest, then there is no critical mass for anything serious. | Aug 10 16:53 |
schestowitz | I rely on Murdoch's distortions there | Aug 10 16:53 |
qu1j0t3 | Murdoch has been doing this for years. | Aug 10 16:53 |
qu1j0t3 | let me show you the result: | Aug 10 16:53 |
schestowitz | don't show me a kid in two part, pls | Aug 10 16:53 |
qu1j0t3 | http://friendfeed.com/ajft/433ac968/right-wing-cow-orker-problem-in-london-is-that | Aug 10 16:54 |
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qu1j0t3 | ^^ this is murdoch's great achievement. | Aug 10 16:54 |
schestowitz | Meg | Aug 10 16:55 |
schestowitz | Meh | Aug 10 16:55 |
schestowitz | I sort of theorise this... | Aug 10 16:57 |
schestowitz | there's bad debt | Aug 10 16:57 |
schestowitz | obviously | Aug 10 16:57 |
schestowitz | And something's gotta give | Aug 10 16:57 |
schestowitz | They buy time now | Aug 10 16:57 |
schestowitz | More debt | Aug 10 16:57 |
schestowitz | More loans at federal level | Aug 10 16:57 |
schestowitz | When it all breaks loose | Aug 10 16:58 |
schestowitz | Middle class joins lower class | Aug 10 16:58 |
schestowitz | Generations sharing houses] | Aug 10 16:58 |
schestowitz | Confiscation of assets by the lenders overseas | Aug 10 16:58 |
schestowitz | And then there's huge unrest | Aug 10 16:58 |
schestowitz | Now they need to prepare the laws | Aug 10 16:58 |
schestowitz | Arm up the police | Aug 10 16:58 |
qu1j0t3 | yes | Aug 10 16:58 |
schestowitz | Like a militarisation of sorts | Aug 10 16:58 |
qu1j0t3 | G20 was part of this | Aug 10 16:58 |
schestowitz | And allow more wiretapping | Aug 10 16:58 |
qu1j0t3 | it's been going on for years, schestowitz | Aug 10 16:58 |
schestowitz | I linked to a WSJ (Murcoch) article from last night | Aug 10 16:59 |
qu1j0t3 | this is nothing new | Aug 10 16:59 |
schestowitz | It blames cellphones and stuff for the riots | Aug 10 16:59 |
qu1j0t3 | everybody saw this coming, especially those architecting it | Aug 10 16:59 |
qu1j0t3 | 9/11 was the biggest step | Aug 10 16:59 |
schestowitz | And this gives them reason to be allowed to read and listen to everyone | Aug 10 16:59 |
qu1j0t3 | yes. | Aug 10 16:59 |
qu1j0t3 | precisely. | Aug 10 16:59 |
schestowitz | THis way they would be better prepared to contain the crowd and find find, then arrest, 'ringleaders' | Aug 10 16:59 |
qu1j0t3 | but all these tactics are familiar | Aug 10 16:59 |
schestowitz | BEFORE the actual events | Aug 10 16:59 |
qu1j0t3 | of course. | Aug 10 16:59 |
qu1j0t3 | pre-emptive. | Aug 10 16:59 |
schestowitz | Like that CHarlie Veich video | Aug 10 16:59 |
qu1j0t3 | they did that at G20. | Aug 10 16:59 |
qu1j0t3 | rounded up students at gunpoint in their uni dorms, schestowitz | Aug 10 17:00 |
qu1j0t3 | in TORONTO! | Aug 10 17:00 |
qu1j0t3 | BEFORE the event. | Aug 10 17:00 |
schestowitz | And the Republican Conference thing | Aug 10 17:00 |
schestowitz | Where police horded with machine guns would raid houses the day before | Aug 10 17:00 |
schestowitz | THrought-crime | Aug 10 17:00 |
schestowitz | anyway, this is why we need tor and stuff | Aug 10 17:01 |
schestowitz | To play the class wars later | Aug 10 17:01 |
schestowitz | Otherwise the bastards win | Aug 10 17:01 |
qu1j0t3 | yes. | Aug 10 17:01 |
qu1j0t3 | it's always the same. | Aug 10 17:01 |
qu1j0t3 | toronto was militarised. cameras, acoustic cannons | Aug 10 17:01 |
schestowitz | Egypt shows how the government reacts | Aug 10 17:01 |
qu1j0t3 | "we'll take them down after the event" | Aug 10 17:01 |
schestowitz | Egypt is a Western nation | Aug 10 17:01 |
qu1j0t3 | and of course they didn't | Aug 10 17:01 |
schestowitz | Located in the middle east | Aug 10 17:01 |
schestowitz | Same methods, similar technology anfd arms | Aug 10 17:01 |
schestowitz | Internet disconnected | Aug 10 17:02 |
schestowitz | IIRC Syria did this too | Aug 10 17:02 |
schestowitz | Briefly | Aug 10 17:02 |
qu1j0t3 | yes. they even buy the equipment from the US, etc | Aug 10 17:02 |
schestowitz | Cutting off communication between activists | Aug 10 17:02 |
qu1j0t3 | tear gas canisters Made in USA | Aug 10 17:02 |
schestowitz | Breaking apart unions of masses | Aug 10 17:02 |
qu1j0t3 | Cisco routers for internet censorship | Aug 10 17:02 |
schestowitz | yes, that too | Aug 10 17:02 |
qu1j0t3 | http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Cisco-accused-of-helping-Beijing-persecute-Falun-Gong-followers-21657.html | Aug 10 17:03 |
schestowitz | !google cisco routers cenorship | Aug 10 17:03 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: CHINA Cisco accused of helping Beijing persecute Falun Gong followers - Asia News .::. Size~: 31.59 KB | Aug 10 17:03 |
TechrightsSocial | [1] - Internet Censorship, Saudi Style - BusinessWeek | http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_47/b4109068380136.htm | Aug 10 17:03 |
TechrightsSocial | [2] - Cisco Blog » Blog Archive » Cisco Q&A on China and Censorship | http://blogs.cisco.com/gov/cisco_qa_on_china_and_censorship/ | Aug 10 17:03 |
TechrightsSocial | [3] - Nart Villeneuve — The Tale of Cisco: Censorship Is In the Router | http://www.nartv.org/2008/05/22/the-tale-of-cisco-censorship-is-in-the-router/ | Aug 10 17:03 |
TechrightsSocial | [4] - Cisco Denies Aiding Chinese Web Censorship | http://www.crn.com/news/networking/207801396/cisco-denies-aiding-chinese-web-censorship.htm | Aug 10 17:03 |
schestowitz | If there's a market.. | Aug 10 17:03 |
qu1j0t3 | http://www.david-kilgour.com/2008/May_20_2008_01.htm | Aug 10 17:03 |
schestowitz | There's no easy client like govt. contracts | Aug 10 17:03 |
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schestowitz | Taxpayers' wage leak in | Aug 10 17:03 |
schestowitz | &*wages | Aug 10 17:03 |
qu1j0t3 | http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000877.html | Aug 10 17:03 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Lauren Weinstein's Blog: Empowering Evil Through Search and Surveillance: Why Corporate Ethics Matter .::. Size~: 15.25 KB | Aug 10 17:03 |
qu1j0t3 | 'And now comes word that Cisco will be providing the networking gear for a massive Chinese surveillance system, that will almost certainly be used primarily to target political dissent. Perhaps most alarming in this case is the reaction of Cisco to questions about the ethics of the contract. "It's not my job to really understand what they're going to use it for," was the reaction of Cisco's | Aug 10 17:03 |
qu1j0t3 | executive VP in charge of their China strategy. | Aug 10 17:03 |
qu1j0t3 | Shareholders love to hear this, and the government doesn't mind either. Political unrest in China hardly helps the american plutocracy. :) | Aug 10 17:09 |
qu1j0t3 | they know it can only hurt them :) | Aug 10 17:09 |
qu1j0t3 | it's all a bit too easy | Aug 10 17:10 |
qu1j0t3 | wikileaks remains the only counter-weapon | Aug 10 17:10 |
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qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: | Aug 10 17:17 |
sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: | Aug 10 17:17 |
schestowitz | If there's a market.. http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2011/07/31/private-companies-own-your-dna-again/] | Aug 10 17:23 |
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schestowitz | If there's a market.. http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2011/07/31/private-companies-own-your-dna-again/ | Aug 10 17:23 |
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schestowitz | sebsebseb: is identica quieting down? | Aug 10 17:24 |
schestowitz | I seem to recall it being more likely in cablegate | Aug 10 17:24 |
schestowitz | I reckon stuff like Google+ won't do it much justice, either | Aug 10 17:24 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80645417 | Aug 10 17:25 |
TechrightsSocial | @Ted Smith (tedks)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 15:47:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz the real looters are the !capitalist rulers, not the people | Aug 10 17:25 |
schestowitz | The ones looted in the UK are small businesses | Aug 10 17:25 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: that doesn't invalidate his point | Aug 10 17:25 |
schestowitz | a real solution would loot the rich | Aug 10 17:25 |
schestowitz | It doesn't at the moment | Aug 10 17:26 |
qu1j0t3 | it's coming later. | Aug 10 17:26 |
schestowitz | They make the rules | Aug 10 17:26 |
qu1j0t3 | the rich will suffer eventually. it's guaranteed by the media/government narrative. | Aug 10 17:26 |
qu1j0t3 | they've made their choice :) | Aug 10 17:26 |
schestowitz | it's taxpayers who take the bill for these riots and the damages | Aug 10 17:27 |
schestowitz | Not the rich | Aug 10 17:27 |
qu1j0t3 | so? | Aug 10 17:27 |
qu1j0t3 | who cares? | Aug 10 17:27 |
qu1j0t3 | you're missing the point | Aug 10 17:27 |
schestowitz | They pass more costs to those below, blaming *them* | Aug 10 17:27 |
qu1j0t3 | of course. | Aug 10 17:27 |
schestowitz | what's the pont? | Aug 10 17:27 |
qu1j0t3 | that's the narrative you're obsessing with. | Aug 10 17:27 |
qu1j0t3 | heh | Aug 10 17:27 |
qu1j0t3 | come on | Aug 10 17:27 |
qu1j0t3 | it's not like we haven't been discussing this for years | Aug 10 17:27 |
schestowitz | how do you nail the rich? | Aug 10 17:27 |
schestowitz | Probably not by doing what they do.. | Aug 10 17:27 |
qu1j0t3 | they're afraid of violence | Aug 10 17:27 |
schestowitz | There are more effective and non-violane tway | Aug 10 17:27 |
qu1j0t3 | at the moment, the plutocracy thinks they can keep a lid on this | Aug 10 17:28 |
qu1j0t3 | they may be right, for now | Aug 10 17:28 |
schestowitz | in techrights for example we expose a lot of scam | Aug 10 17:28 |
schestowitz | millionaire novell execs are now out of work | Aug 10 17:28 |
schestowitz | Dragoon, Hovsepian | Aug 10 17:28 |
schestowitz | This is, IMHO, the way to make those people hurt a little | Aug 10 17:28 |
schestowitz | See what happened to Murdoch in the UK | Aug 10 17:28 |
schestowitz | They want his head on a stick | Aug 10 17:29 |
schestowitz | Partly cause the Mirror and his rivals helped | Aug 10 17:29 |
schestowitz | But also cause people exposed the scam he is | Aug 10 17:29 |
qu1j0t3 | murdoch needs to go, because he's a main mover in the social problem | Aug 10 17:29 |
schestowitz | So he might be expelled from here | Aug 10 17:29 |
qu1j0t3 | so does your government | Aug 10 17:29 |
schestowitz | i.e. financial damage | Aug 10 17:29 |
qu1j0t3 | but: | Aug 10 17:29 |
qu1j0t3 | 1) murdoch is not going anywhere | Aug 10 17:29 |
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qu1j0t3 | 2) your government is not going anywhere. | Aug 10 17:29 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you join the dots. ;) | Aug 10 17:29 |
schestowitz | no violence was needed to help screw Murdoch | Aug 10 17:30 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Murdoch isn't screwed. | Aug 10 17:30 |
schestowitz | And this is how it went down in Egypt a lot of the time | Aug 10 17:30 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Blair isn't screwed. | Aug 10 17:30 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the corrupt UK govt isn't screwed. | Aug 10 17:30 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: there Are No Consequences. | Aug 10 17:30 |
schestowitz | Blair might head the EU soon | Aug 10 17:30 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: EXACTLY! | Aug 10 17:30 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: so what does voting do again? | Aug 10 17:30 |
schestowitz | Gates wants to be DG | Aug 10 17:31 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: how did Techrights put Blair in jail again? | Aug 10 17:31 |
schestowitz | But he's better working from the outside | Aug 10 17:31 |
schestowitz | Like pivate meetings with Harper | Aug 10 17:31 |
schestowitz | Telling him who to give money for patent licence from | Aug 10 17:31 |
schestowitz | Taxpayers' money | Aug 10 17:31 |
schestowitz | techrights does not do politics in the pure sense | Aug 10 17:31 |
schestowitz | So to ask what you did makes no sense | Aug 10 17:31 |
schestowitz | People would not read the site they sub'd to 4 years ago if it was plainly political | Aug 10 17:32 |
schestowitz | We have our area of speciality and interest | Aug 10 17:32 |
schestowitz | Within that, I think we do exceptionally well | Aug 10 17:32 |
schestowitz | The front page of the wiki now gets read about 4k times a day (non-cached) | Aug 10 17:32 |
schestowitz | I have one third screen up now, showing load average | Aug 10 17:32 |
schestowitz | It's always hovering around 3 this afternoon | Aug 10 17:32 |
schestowitz | On two cores | Aug 10 17:32 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: my point is. Who's putting Blair in jail? | Aug 10 17:33 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: who's putting Murdoch in jail? | Aug 10 17:33 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: there's no road there from here that's "socially acceptable" | Aug 10 17:33 |
schestowitz | To me, this means "people absorb our hard labour" | Aug 10 17:33 |
schestowitz | some sites go after them | Aug 10 17:33 |
schestowitz | Like the Fox-exposing sites | Aug 10 17:33 |
schestowitz | Media Matters for example | Aug 10 17:33 |
schestowitz | Let them do their fine work | Aug 10 17:33 |
qu1j0t3 | it's not working. | Aug 10 17:33 |
qu1j0t3 | it's not effective. | Aug 10 17:33 |
schestowitz | !google fox rants media matters | Aug 10 17:34 |
TechrightsSocial | [1] - Fox & Friends Cheers Christie's "Angr[y]" Rant Against Constituent ... | http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201106210001 | Aug 10 17:34 |
TechrightsSocial | [2] - Fox News Goes on The Attack Against Media Matters « Rants & Rage | http://rantsandrage.com/2011/07/08/fox-news-goes-on-the-attack-against-media-matters/ | Aug 10 17:34 |
TechrightsSocial | [3] - Dave Dubya's Freedom Rants: FOX(R) Misinformation | http://www.davedubya.com/2011/01/foxr-misinformation.html | Aug 10 17:34 |
TechrightsSocial | [4] - Dr. Laura - Rant | Media Matters | Rand Paul | Mediaite | http://www.mediaite.com/online/media-matters-dr-laura-boycott-the-rand-paul-solution-to-racism/ | Aug 10 17:34 |
qu1j0t3 | nor is twitter. | Aug 10 17:34 |
schestowitz | They tried to get them in trouble | Aug 10 17:34 |
qu1j0t3 | they're all politically inert. | Aug 10 17:34 |
schestowitz | By saying it's tax-exempt while serving political agenda | Aug 10 17:34 |
schestowitz | In response to Republican bastards who pretended to be non-rpfots | Aug 10 17:34 |
qu1j0t3 | so? | Aug 10 17:34 |
schestowitz | some dude... | Aug 10 17:34 |
schestowitz | Long story.. | Aug 10 17:34 |
qu1j0t3 | they're only telling people who already figured it out. | Aug 10 17:34 |
schestowitz | Doesn't matter right now | Aug 10 17:34 |
schestowitz | BTW, re your Huffington rants | Aug 10 17:34 |
schestowitz | Homer/Slated opposed | Aug 10 17:35 |
schestowitz | He defended Arianna | Aug 10 17:35 |
schestowitz | Then I told him you beg to differ | Aug 10 17:35 |
schestowitz | She's no longer married to that Oil dude | Aug 10 17:35 |
schestowitz | And she apparently moved totally away from the right wing | Aug 10 17:35 |
schestowitz | You still allege that by going against the GOP she actually makes them (or Fox) stronger? | Aug 10 17:35 |
schestowitz | So what would you rather they did? | Aug 10 17:35 |
qu1j0t3 | makes no difference | Aug 10 17:35 |
qu1j0t3 | to what she is | Aug 10 17:35 |
schestowitz | What is she? | Aug 10 17:36 |
qu1j0t3 | she's not going after Fox | Aug 10 17:36 |
schestowitz | She's rich | Aug 10 17:36 |
qu1j0t3 | she's not going after the GOP | Aug 10 17:36 |
schestowitz | And she pretends to speak for the poor | Aug 10 17:36 |
qu1j0t3 | you've completely missed the point again | Aug 10 17:36 |
qu1j0t3 | what happened to you? | Aug 10 17:36 |
schestowitz | While handing around with and marrying plutocrats | Aug 10 17:36 |
qu1j0t3 | YES. | Aug 10 17:36 |
schestowitz | So... | Aug 10 17:36 |
qu1j0t3 | she's supporting the establishment, the plutocracy, schestowitz | Aug 10 17:36 |
qu1j0t3 | that's my beef with her | Aug 10 17:36 |
qu1j0t3 | she's dishonest, a fraud of the worst kind. | Aug 10 17:37 |
qu1j0t3 | on top of that, it's self-interest | Aug 10 17:37 |
schestowitz | got any articles exposing her? | Aug 10 17:37 |
qu1j0t3 | she's no different from her buddies - Gates, Zuckerberg | Aug 10 17:37 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: her site exposes her... | Aug 10 17:37 |
schestowitz | techrights did 3 alluding to it, but we -- like groklaw- don't do politics | Aug 10 17:37 |
qu1j0t3 | heh | Aug 10 17:37 |
schestowitz | Except the leakage stuff and maybe some in daily links | Aug 10 17:37 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: give me a short article explaining why she's a fraud | Aug 10 17:38 |
schestowitz | someone must have done something to expose her some time in the past | Aug 10 17:38 |
schestowitz | I could instead just 'google it' | Aug 10 17:38 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: new euphemism on slashdot: "kinetic war" -- the type that kills wholesale | Aug 10 17:41 |
ender_33 | 12:35 < schestowitz> someone must have done something to expose her some time in the past | Aug 10 17:42 |
ender_33 | !google arianna huffington exposed | Aug 10 17:43 |
TechrightsSocial | [1] - 'Lizard Brains' Redux: Huffington Repeats Analogy But Gets Exposed ... | http://www.theblaze.com/stories/lizard-brains-redux-huffington-repeats-analogy-but-gets-exposed-by-tv-host/ | Aug 10 17:43 |
TechrightsSocial | [2] - Proof Positive: Arianna Huffington Nude - No, Really? | http://proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com/2011/02/arianna-huffington-nude-no-really.html | Aug 10 17:43 |
TechrightsSocial | [3] - Millions of Wordpress Blogs Hacked, Reuters' Boss Talks ... | http://ebyline.biz/2011/04/millions-of-wordpress-blogs-hacked-reuters-boss-talks-attribution-and-does-huffpost-crowdsource-or-steal/ | Aug 10 17:43 |
TechrightsSocial | [4] - Califone vs. Elizabeth Smart vs Arianna Huffington vs. Suicide ... | http://geargab.kingwho.com/%3Fp%3D174 | Aug 10 17:43 |
ender_33 | !google arianna exploits poor | Aug 10 17:43 |
TechrightsSocial | [1] - Huff-Watch: Arianna continues using a dead 9-year-old girl as ... | http://huff-watch.blogspot.com/2011/01/arianna-continues-using-dead-9-year-old.html | Aug 10 17:43 |
TechrightsSocial | [2] - How Much Did Arianna Huffington Make and Is It Fair Her Writers ... | http://blogs.forbes.com/tjwalker/2011/02/12/how-much-did-arianna-huffington-make-and-is-it-fair-her-writers-made-nothing/ | Aug 10 17:43 |
TechrightsSocial | [3] - Colbert & Fallon Discuss What It Means To Be BFFFSM With Arianna | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/01/arianna-colbert-fallon-bfffsm_n_843784.html | Aug 10 17:43 |
TechrightsSocial | [4] - Huffington Post to be sold to AOL for $315m | Richard Adams ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2011/feb/07/huffington-post-sale-aol-ariana | Aug 10 17:43 |
ender_33 | what happened to Roy | Aug 10 17:44 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you need to attend Re-education ;-) | Aug 10 17:44 |
ender_33 | I think he did | Aug 10 17:44 |
ender_33 | thats why he was gone for a few weeks | Aug 10 17:45 |
qu1j0t3 | hahaha | Aug 10 17:45 |
ender_33 | vacation to israel | Aug 10 17:45 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: You went to the Consensus Camp instead! Wrong one! | Aug 10 17:45 |
ender_33 | probably an israeli brainwashing camp | Aug 10 17:45 |
qu1j0t3 | 'NYPD Creates Unit To Track Criminals Via Social Media' | Aug 10 17:45 |
ender_33 | 'serve the new world order' | Aug 10 17:45 |
ender_33 | US,UK,Israel - Taking over the world on behalf of Freemasonry & by extension Illuminati | Aug 10 17:46 |
ender_33 | CCTV is good for you | Aug 10 17:47 |
ender_33 | Riots are bad | Aug 10 17:47 |
qu1j0t3 | 'In the 1970s, RAND built models they thought could predict fire patterns in New York, and then used them to justify closing fire stations in NYC's poorest sections in the name of efficiency, a decision that would ultimately displace 600,000 people as their neighborhoods burned. | Aug 10 17:48 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: https://twitter.com/einfeldt/status/101317247146008576 | Aug 10 18:28 |
TechrightsSocial | @einfeldt: RT @AJEnglish: London: A class divided "The riots are a symptom of a deep malaise in this country" http://aje.me/pLoKnv | Aug 10 18:28 |
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qu1j0t3 | yes. | Aug 10 18:29 |
qu1j0t3 | brewing for a LONG time. | Aug 10 18:29 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: now do you see it's an extension of what we've been talking about these past years? | Aug 10 18:29 |
qu1j0t3 | which is why @JPBarlow predicts the same, soon, in the US. | Aug 10 18:29 |
schestowitz | http://gregor.us/portland/moving-to-portland/ like Linus | Aug 10 18:34 |
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schestowitz | qu1j0t3: has it not started in the US? | Aug 10 18:34 |
schestowitz | http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.664.1 | Aug 10 18:36 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Goodbye, Microsoft®: Xplornetsucks.com hacked .::. Size~: 17.24 KB | Aug 10 18:36 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: https://identi.ca/notice/80650321 | Aug 10 18:46 |
TechrightsSocial | @Ted Smith (tedks)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 17:42:51 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Owned by people in the neighborhood? Working against neoliberalism? Small businesses are still businesses. | Aug 10 18:46 |
schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14482695 | Aug 10 18:46 |
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schestowitz | "Amateur footage has been posted on YouTube claiming to show police beating a riot suspect in Jutland Street, near Manchester's Piccadilly Station." | Aug 10 18:46 |
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ender_33 | have you seen the video? | Aug 10 19:21 |
schestowitz | yes, I have | Aug 10 19:34 |
schestowitz | I don't know what they did/if they did something | Aug 10 19:34 |
schestowitz | Maybe they caused trouble and fled | Aug 10 19:34 |
schestowitz | And then TAU got helicopter info on where to get them | Aug 10 19:34 |
ender_33 | so there is a valid reason for a police officer to beat a riot suspect? | Aug 10 19:35 |
ender_33 | guilty until proven innocent in a court of law? | Aug 10 19:35 |
schestowitz | did I defend the police brutality? | Aug 10 19:36 |
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schestowitz | Someone is selling a 2-bedroom house near me for 100,000. | Aug 10 19:38 |
schestowitz | Prices are down considerably in the UK | Aug 10 19:38 |
ender_33 | yes you did | Aug 10 19:40 |
ender_33 | I like how you twist your support | Aug 10 19:41 |
ender_33 | 14:32 < schestowitz> I don't know what they did/if they did something | Aug 10 19:41 |
ender_33 | 14:32 < schestowitz> Maybe they caused trouble and fled | Aug 10 19:41 |
ender_33 | assuming they did something to cause the cop to beat them | Aug 10 19:41 |
schestowitz | TAU are the police's own army of thugs | Aug 10 19:45 |
schestowitz | They use them in football games too | Aug 10 19:45 |
schestowitz | When drunks fans are out and about | Aug 10 19:45 |
schestowitz | They wear impressive armor and are well equipped | Aug 10 19:45 |
schestowitz | They keep them in the back of vans and then unleash them like mercenaries to tactically assault the crowd | Aug 10 19:45 |
schestowitz | They're like animals some of then, very tall and on big boots | Aug 10 19:46 |
schestowitz | The ones I saw last night you couldn't beat in a fight cause they're all covered like some characters from quake | Aug 10 19:46 |
schestowitz | [19:41] <ender_33> I like how you twist your support | Aug 10 19:46 |
schestowitz | [18:46] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: UK riot cops beat boys on bicycles but BBC excuses. Original: http://t.co/QMim3lX BBC: http://t.co/YxLGGuI | Aug 10 19:47 |
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schestowitz | I took the side opposite to them | Aug 10 19:47 |
schestowitz | And got told off by a stranger for it: https://twitter.com/felixpy/status/101348851478315008 | Aug 10 19:47 |
TechrightsSocial | @felixpy: @schestowitz good, i hope they beat the shit out of the twats. if you sympathise with these people then i seriously worry for you. | Aug 10 19:47 |
ender_33 | yeah there is something seriously wrong with you if you are on the gov't side on this one | Aug 10 19:48 |
ender_33 | its like its a whole different you | Aug 10 19:49 |
ender_33 | you were against the g20, but you support the gov't this time? | Aug 10 19:49 |
schestowitz | You misinterpreted my view | Aug 10 19:49 |
schestowitz | If you're not sure, ask me, I'd clarify | Aug 10 19:49 |
ender_33 | clarify your position then | Aug 10 19:49 |
ender_33 | imo, agreeing with the police means you support the system/government | Aug 10 19:50 |
schestowitz | people defied basic laws | Aug 10 19:58 |
schestowitz | Like taking other people's stuff, invading homes, etc. | Aug 10 19:58 |
schestowitz | Wrong from a fundamental set of ethical guidelines | Aug 10 19:58 |
schestowitz | The police was the lifeline those people without arms had | Aug 10 19:58 |
schestowitz | And they sometimes came to the resucre | Aug 10 19:58 |
ender_33 | people defy basic laws everyday, not all laws are just | Aug 10 19:59 |
ender_33 | my example is free speech laws | Aug 10 19:59 |
ender_33 | while I don't advocate for the KKK, I believe they should have the right to be racist because thats freedom | Aug 10 19:59 |
schestowitz | That's different | Aug 10 20:00 |
schestowitz | They get this right | Aug 10 20:00 |
ender_33 | I also can't remember any situation where a cop beating someone was justified as a legal act | Aug 10 20:02 |
ender_33 | no matter what the victim did before hand or after | Aug 10 20:02 |
ender_33 | thats my experience, thats why i dont trust cops | Aug 10 20:02 |
ender_33 | I've even had cops attempt to conduct illegal searches on hunches | Aug 10 20:02 |
ender_33 | on me | Aug 10 20:03 |
ender_33 | my friend was told he shouldn't drive the car he had because it was an eye sore for the cops - a sports car | Aug 10 20:03 |
ender_33 | cops hate people who stand out | Aug 10 20:04 |
schestowitz | some do | Aug 10 20:05 |
schestowitz | Not all cops think alike | Aug 10 20:05 |
schestowitz | Cops are not a mentality, a race, and a gender | Aug 10 20:06 |
schestowitz | They also have a variety of different functions they get assigned to | Aug 10 20:06 |
ender_33 | the common denominator is the training that turns them against the public - everyone is a potential criminal - be on your guard | Aug 10 20:07 |
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schestowitz | ender_33: people too are generally suspicious of toehrs | Aug 10 20:09 |
schestowitz | Cops are given more legal power to enforce what they see as suitable, inc. force | Aug 10 20:09 |
ender_33 | I get the role of a police officer, but at some point it changed into a business. | Aug 10 20:09 |
ender_33 | Police officers used to serve and protect people. Now they serve and protect their quotas and the jobs of their fellow officers who do corrupt acts. | Aug 10 20:10 |
schestowitz | that's the issue with the jail system in the US | Aug 10 20:12 |
schestowitz | The goal should be not to put many people in prison | Aug 10 20:12 |
schestowitz | But when it's a business, then it gets reversed | Aug 10 20:12 |
schestowitz | And then you can classify more things as arrestable crime | Aug 10 20:12 |
schestowitz | Like taking the 'wrong' drugs... alcohol OK, pot not. | Aug 10 20:12 |
qu1j0t3 | already done | Aug 10 20:13 |
schestowitz | This way they can keep their 'clientbase' of 1% (or US population) under their control with public sponsoring this | Aug 10 20:13 |
schestowitz | And they also can lock up ;'easier' people | Aug 10 20:13 |
schestowitz | Those who would not cause much mess | Aug 10 20:13 |
schestowitz | People who peddled pot | Aug 10 20:13 |
schestowitz | Not serial killers | Aug 10 20:13 |
schestowitz | So they run a sort of summer camp for them, paid by the public | Aug 10 20:13 |
ender_33 | yeah and then they pass so many laws they don't have the cops to keep up | Aug 10 20:17 |
ender_33 | cameras get installed to make fining people easier | Aug 10 20:17 |
ender_33 | I think more civilians should become 'peace officers' (not police officers) and watch the cops | Aug 10 20:18 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MVonyVSQoM&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AVGxdCwVVULXcwpYOD9MFr1PJ5w2Q-oO61 | Aug 10 20:23 |
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schestowitz | That's what the TAU remind me of | Aug 10 20:23 |
schestowitz | Except they don't have mister Tea | Aug 10 20:23 |
ender_33 | lol | Aug 10 20:25 |
ender_33 | Mr T and his gold chains | Aug 10 20:25 |
schestowitz | "get em nuts!" | Aug 10 20:25 |
schestowitz | !google sneakers mr t | Aug 10 20:25 |
TechrightsSocial | [1] - Mr T tank RETURNS - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DN2t7HwKHNV8 | Aug 10 20:25 |
TechrightsSocial | [2] - Men's Shoes – Women's Shoes, Kids Shoes | TheShoeMart.com | http://www.theshoemart.com/ | Aug 10 20:25 |
TechrightsSocial | [3] - Sylvester Stallone Height - how tall | http://www.celebheights.com/s/Sylvester-Stallone-347.html | Aug 10 20:25 |
TechrightsSocial | [4] - Get More Nuts | http://www.getsomenuts.tv/ | Aug 10 20:25 |
schestowitz | odd that [3] creeps in | Aug 10 20:26 |
ender_33 | !google keeanu reeves immortal | Aug 10 20:26 |
TechrightsSocial | [1] - Keanu Reeves is immortal | http://www.keanuisimmortal.com/ | Aug 10 20:26 |
TechrightsSocial | [2] - Keanu Reeves is immortal - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DnEubt6HpGhs | Aug 10 20:26 |
TechrightsSocial | [3] - Finally, Compelling Evidence that Keanu Reeves is Immortal - The ... | http://blog.moviefone.com/2009/10/26/finally-compelling-evidence-that-keanu-reeves-is-immortal/ | Aug 10 20:26 |
TechrightsSocial | [4] - Keanu Reeves Immortality, meme? | Meme Research Discussion | Know ... | http://knowyourmeme.com/forums/meme-research/topics/4974-keanu-reeves-immortality-meme | Aug 10 20:26 |
schestowitz | Stallone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Stallone | Aug 10 20:26 |
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schestowitz | he's 65 now.. | Aug 10 20:27 |
schestowitz | born when ww2 ended | Aug 10 20:27 |
schestowitz | baby boomer? | Aug 10 20:27 |
schestowitz | he was a t hug and gangster before the film career | Aug 10 20:27 |
schestowitz | 1975 | Aug 10 20:27 |
schestowitz | He would beat up people for bankers | Aug 10 20:28 |
schestowitz | If they couldn't pay the loan | Aug 10 20:28 |
schestowitz | Like the mafia | Aug 10 20:28 |
schestowitz | Criminakl | Aug 10 20:28 |
schestowitz | ir doesn't say it in wikipedia | Aug 10 20:29 |
schestowitz | That's omitted | Aug 10 20:29 |
schestowitz | going into his personal and family life | Aug 10 20:29 |
schestowitz | But not the negative easrly life | Aug 10 20:29 |
schestowitz | Leaping to the film career | Aug 10 20:30 |
schestowitz | I reckon he was on steroids in Rambo days | Aug 10 20:31 |
schestowitz | Wikipedia is not a complete source for many things | Aug 10 20:31 |
schestowitz | I bet the PR agewncies defend their client's reputation on there | Aug 10 20:32 |
schestowitz | It's easy for them | Aug 10 20:32 |
ender_33 | Yeah I don't put too much thought into wikipedia | Aug 10 20:35 |
ender_33 | I was in ##conspiracy and was there to witness people who caught mods on wikipedia removing tesla inventions under the guise of various silly rules | Aug 10 20:36 |
ender_33 | such as the lack of peer review because edison was fucking him over | Aug 10 20:36 |
ender_33 | they would rather not have people know that the government stole all his research | Aug 10 20:37 |
schestowitz | edison stole a lot of research, but 'steal' is used loosely here | Aug 10 20:39 |
schestowitz | research cannot be stolen | Aug 10 20:40 |
schestowitz | It's about attribution | Aug 10 20:40 |
schestowitz | When I invent something I at least want to be recognised for it, I don't care so much about profit | Aug 10 20:40 |
schestowitz | Profits don't stay around after you die, reputation can | Aug 10 20:40 |
ender_33 | what he stole was tesla's good name | Aug 10 20:43 |
schestowitz | not his name | Aug 10 20:43 |
schestowitz | his idead | Aug 10 20:43 |
schestowitz | Atttributed wrongly | Aug 10 20:43 |
ender_33 | you talk about his stuff today and some people might think you're nuts | Aug 10 20:43 |
schestowitz | Like the lightbulb thing and lots more | Aug 10 20:43 |
schestowitz | he created GE | Aug 10 20:44 |
ender_33 | good name = reputation | Aug 10 20:44 |
schestowitz | with like half a million employees | Aug 10 20:44 |
ender_33 | telsa died with nothing for his ideas, edison made a fortune | Aug 10 20:44 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/101360094607982592 | Aug 10 20:44 |
TechrightsSocial | @fcassia: @schestowitz great setup, congrats! but you need to hire a photographer. ;-) | Aug 10 20:44 |
schestowitz | both died | Aug 10 20:44 |
ender_33 | now GE is one of the biggest media companies | Aug 10 20:44 |
schestowitz | and are bones now | Aug 10 20:44 |
schestowitz | It's parity | Aug 10 20:45 |
ender_33 | running part of the media | Aug 10 20:45 |
schestowitz | But it's unfair that the latter's bones are glorified | Aug 10 20:45 |
schestowitz | As if he was the father of science | Aug 10 20:45 |
ender_33 | well its not just that | Aug 10 20:45 |
ender_33 | they supressed inventions | Aug 10 20:45 |
schestowitz | Probably more than that | Aug 10 20:45 |
ender_33 | he had all kinds of stuff that worked which would decentralize the creation of power | Aug 10 20:45 |
schestowitz | what except MSNBC does GE own? | Aug 10 20:45 |
schestowitz | media wise? | Aug 10 20:45 |
ender_33 | GE? They are one of the 6 or so companies that own it | Aug 10 20:46 |
MinceR | schestowitz: NBC Universal | Aug 10 20:46 |
schestowitz | what channels are controlled? | Aug 10 20:47 |
ender_33 | http://www.corporations.org/media/ | Aug 10 20:47 |
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schestowitz | I don't think GE owns the WHOLE of NBC, does it? | Aug 10 20:47 |
MinceR | i think they do | Aug 10 20:47 |
MinceR | do you mean tv channels? | Aug 10 20:47 |
ender_33 | http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html | Aug 10 20:47 |
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ender_33 | GE/NBC's ranks No. 1 on the Forbes 500. Prior to its merger with NBC and an alliance with Microsoft, GE specialized in electronics. The peacock owns many New York sports team. It also owns or has equity stakes in many popular websites, including Snap.com and iVillage. | Aug 10 20:48 |
MinceR | hm, apparently NBC Universal has two owners: Comcast and GE | Aug 10 20:48 |
MinceR | and Comcast owns 51% | Aug 10 20:48 |
MinceR | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/NBC_Universal | Aug 10 20:48 |
TechrightsSocial | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Aug 10 20:48 |
schestowitz | ok | Aug 10 20:48 |
schestowitz | what can go wrong? | Aug 10 20:48 |
schestowitz | Two corporations with lobbyists running the news | Aug 10 20:49 |
MinceR | :> | Aug 10 20:49 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Financial Times wants to talk about 2 issues re: riots. "race" and "looting". both irrelevant | Aug 10 20:49 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: look for this tactic, it's everywhere | Aug 10 20:49 |
ender_33 | do you now understand when I say the media is controlled? | Aug 10 20:49 |
MinceR | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/NBC_Universal#Sale_to_Comcast | Aug 10 20:49 |
TechrightsSocial | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Aug 10 20:49 |
schestowitz | not "class" too? | Aug 10 20:49 |
qu1j0t3 | ender_33: I don't think that idea is novel to anyone here... | Aug 10 20:49 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: OF COURSE NOT. | Aug 10 20:49 |
ender_33 | those same 5 are telling you whats going on with the riots | Aug 10 20:49 |
schestowitz | race wars | Aug 10 20:49 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's anathema for the "class" issue to be debated | Aug 10 20:49 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it | Aug 10 20:49 |
schestowitz | "stop thinking about wars overseas!'" | Aug 10 20:50 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's necessary to paint them as criminals, or disaffected (unwanted) immigrants | Aug 10 20:50 |
schestowitz | "looting"= underclass is the enemy | Aug 10 20:50 |
schestowitz | Not the upper class | Aug 10 20:50 |
schestowitz | They loot "legally" | Aug 10 20:50 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: WE know it's about class. but the narrative cannot swing that way. | Aug 10 20:50 |
ender_33 | new orleans = looting, greece = looting | Aug 10 20:50 |
schestowitz | Through legitlation and lobbying and stuff :-) | Aug 10 20:50 |
schestowitz | "25% of your wage is mine, and I have a charitable foundation sodare not tax me" | Aug 10 20:50 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the idea that this springs from disenfranchisement is the forbidden topic | Aug 10 20:50 |
MinceR | see also: http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart/main | Aug 10 20:51 |
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ender_33 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots | Aug 10 20:51 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: List of riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 356.19 KB | Aug 10 20:51 |
ender_33 | curiously, I noticed a lot more riots are listed in 2010 and 2011 | Aug 10 20:51 |
MinceR | also that needs javascript | Aug 10 20:52 |
MinceR | you can list the tv channels there | Aug 10 20:52 |
ender_33 | even wikipedia is being emotional | Aug 10 20:52 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/felixpy/status/101372242214137856 | Aug 10 20:52 |
TechrightsSocial | @felixpy: @schestowitz may i ask why they attempted to run away from the police then and were shouting abuse at the police? | Aug 10 20:52 |
ender_33 | 2011 - Riots in London, Liverpool, Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Bristol, Nottingham, Manchester, Leicester, Gloucester, Chatham, Gillingham, Northampton, Salford, West Bromwich and Derby, England, hundreds injured and 4 killed _protecting their community_. | Aug 10 20:52 |
schestowitz | I don't see them shouting and I don't know if they ran away from anything. The video does not show sufficient context. | Aug 10 20:53 |
schestowitz | Then there is the question of whether the brutality was necessary, the cops were clearly strong enough to cuff them. | Aug 10 20:54 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you know by now that brutality is part of the strategy | Aug 10 20:56 |
qu1j0t3 | an inseparable part | Aug 10 20:56 |
schestowitz | There' the danger that if we permit cops to beat the * out of people who match a steretype they'll 'normalise' this practice | Aug 10 20:57 |
qu1j0t3 | heh | Aug 10 20:57 |
qu1j0t3 | it already is normal in some communities | Aug 10 20:58 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: but the media makes the cops seem like the good guys all the time | Aug 10 20:58 |
qu1j0t3 | here, for example. | Aug 10 20:58 |
schestowitz | In times of crisis they are seen as the saviours | Aug 10 20:58 |
schestowitz | Same in times of war | Aug 10 20:58 |
qu1j0t3 | police run rampant, beating and shooting low income communities here | Aug 10 20:58 |
qu1j0t3 | it's only new to white, affluent people (G20) | Aug 10 20:58 |
schestowitz | If you don't agree, "you help the enemy" | Aug 10 20:58 |
qu1j0t3 | I am SURE it's the same in London. | Aug 10 20:58 |
schestowitz | So it's the best proipaganda they can have | Aug 10 20:58 |
schestowitz | Chaos and anarchy | Aug 10 20:58 |
qu1j0t3 | yes. | Aug 10 20:58 |
schestowitz | Then people say, we need MORE cops | Aug 10 20:58 |
qu1j0t3 | which is why the consensus media is irrelevant | Aug 10 20:58 |
schestowitz | or MORE tanks | Aug 10 20:59 |
schestowitz | in war time | Aug 10 20:59 |
qu1j0t3 | of course. this guy said it well: | Aug 10 20:59 |
MinceR | afaik it's worse in london | Aug 10 20:59 |
qu1j0t3 | MinceR: probably yes. | Aug 10 20:59 |
MinceR | they've got the cctv and all that shit | Aug 10 20:59 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: this sums it up https://twitter.com/#!/Marriotti67/status/101051007529787392 | Aug 10 20:59 |
TechrightsSocial | @Marriotti67: Not sure where this "the police aren't allowed to police anymore" is coming from. Few months ago they were running horses through students. | Aug 10 20:59 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and https://twitter.com/#!/agent_of_change/status/100847816204754944 | Aug 10 20:59 |
TechrightsSocial | @agent_of_change: Many young ppl in London live in a permanent state of invisible crisis. If the riots shine some light on their conditions, that's positive. | Aug 10 21:00 |
qu1j0t3 | and https://twitter.com/#!/MikeHitchen/status/101263728309321728 | Aug 10 21:00 |
TechrightsSocial | @MikeHitchen: Cameron, offenders to "face full force of the law" Does that apply to all offenders, or just those outside your elite circle of friends? | Aug 10 21:00 |
schestowitz | @gnufreex] Gaddafi strikes UK govt with their own rhetorics "Cameron must go, he lost all legitimacy because of riots". 2tu.us/3g1l | Aug 10 21:01 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: RTed | Aug 10 21:03 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80656157 | Aug 10 21:07 |
TechrightsSocial | @Dayo (jargon)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 20:04:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz beautifully said. | Aug 10 21:08 |
schestowitz | ha! | Aug 10 21:08 |
schestowitz | just tweeted: | Aug 10 21:21 |
schestowitz | By unscientific calculations/speculations, ~10 billion full-body x-rays at airports will cause more cancer fatalities than terrorist attacks prevented | Aug 10 21:21 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80656307 | Aug 10 21:22 |
TechrightsSocial | @Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 20:07:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Not if it hasn't spread yet... #metaphail | Aug 10 21:22 |
schestowitz | re "Increasing police force to address social crisis is the gross equivalent of cutting off limbs having cancer.The problems remain, suppressed." | Aug 10 21:23 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80656419 | Aug 10 21:23 |
TechrightsSocial | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 20:10:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Spot on. | Aug 10 21:23 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80656483 | Aug 10 21:23 |
TechrightsSocial | @Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 20:12:29 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz You think that the government is going to understand that? Pardon my cynicism. | Aug 10 21:23 |
ender_33 | One rootkit to rule them all, One kit to find them, One kit to bring them all and on the darknet bind them. | Aug 10 22:05 |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/kroosec/statuses/101364323842129921 | Aug 10 23:07 |
TechrightsSocial | @kroosec: @_L1z_ If you are interested more by the subject, groklaw.com and techrights.org are good sources. #patents #trolls #microsoft | Aug 10 23:07 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80660274 | Aug 10 23:08 |
TechrightsSocial | @Psychedelic Squid (psquid)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 21:52:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Apple is killing Jobs? ;p | Aug 10 23:08 |
schestowitz | yeah :-) | Aug 10 23:08 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/101416010669756416 | Aug 10 23:47 |
TechrightsSocial | @keithccurtis: @schestowitz The problem is the government is killing the private sector. The solution is not even more government. See: Cuba. | Aug 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | Keith from Microsoft | Aug 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | I was not suggesting socialism | Aug 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80661618 | Aug 10 23:48 |
TechrightsSocial | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 22:33:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz A start would be distinguishing between defence and aggression. | Aug 10 23:48 |
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