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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RedScareBot/status/101425149936545792 | Aug 11 00:07 |
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| TechrightsSocial | @RedScareBot: On Your Marx RT @schestowitz: @keithccurtis I was not suggesting socialism | Aug 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/101426219135930368 | Aug 11 00:07 |
| TechrightsSocial | @keithccurtis: @schestowitz Social justice is one of the code words for socialism. Anyway, civil unrest are caused by big gov't / bad economy. | Aug 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | That's a Republican talking point, a necon/GOP one. | Aug 11 00:07 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80662491 | Aug 11 00:08 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 23:02:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I think that's just an organisational thing, there are journalists assigned in the same way to government departments etc | Aug 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | You need to then check who's included and excluded and why. | Aug 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/101430653815496704 | Aug 11 00:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | @keithccurtis: @schestowitz I have never read any talking point about that term. It is they who use it. http://bit.ly/oNxvq1 | Aug 11 00:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Obama’s ‘Redistributive Change’ and the Death of Freedom - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online .::. Size~: 60.66 KB | Aug 11 00:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: heh, well there's somebody who knows nothing about CUba... | Aug 11 00:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/101437163224305664 | Aug 11 00:45 |
| TechrightsSocial | @keithccurtis: @schestowitz PS: You don't even understand what the word neocon means. | Aug 11 00:45 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: it's the Microsoft whitewasher | Aug 11 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Now promoting Mono | Aug 11 00:46 |
| schestowitz | anyhow, I'm done feeding him | Aug 11 00:46 |
| schestowitz | No idea why he started with me | Aug 11 00:46 |
| schestowitz | I'm tired, gn | Aug 11 00:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | nite | Aug 11 00:46 |
| ender_33 | “living wage” laws that kill jobs | Aug 11 02:14 |
| ender_33 | from the article | Aug 11 02:14 |
| ender_33 | RMS mentioned that, lol | Aug 11 02:14 |
| ender_33 | http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html | Aug 11 02:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Why Software Should Be Free - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 55.84 KB | Aug 11 02:15 |
| ender_33 | When it is true at a given time that most people will work in a certain field only for high pay, it need not remain true. The dynamic of change can run in reverse, if society provides an impetus. If we take away the possibility of great wealth, then after a while, when the people have readjusted their attitudes, they will once again be eager to work in the field for the joy of accomplishment. | Aug 11 02:17 |
| ender_33 | The question “How can we pay programmers?” becomes an easier question when we realize that it's not a matter of paying them a fortune. A mere living is easier to raise. | Aug 11 02:17 |
| ender_33 | Programmers aren't making a fortune | Aug 11 02:21 |
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| abeNd-org | whats another not for profit software site like techsoup.org? they only offer symantec endpoint for antivirus & even with that they are "out of stock" | Aug 11 03:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80664765 | Aug 11 06:47 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 11 06:47 |
| TechrightsSocial | @qu1j0t3's status on Thursday, 11-Aug-11 00:28:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz There's a really easy, simple solution. Require developers to use slow machines (e.g. nothing less than 5 years old). | Aug 11 06:47 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/statuses/101449780403773440 | Aug 11 06:52 |
| TechrightsSocial | @qu1j0t3: @schestowitz There's a really easy, simple solution. Require developers to use slow machines (e.g. nothing less than 5 years old). | Aug 11 06:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/101438237586898944 | Aug 11 07:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | @keithccurtis: @schestowitz Note that Neocon is used as a smear, frequently towards Jewish people. You should have more sensitivity! | Aug 11 07:19 |
| schestowitz | Sigh | Aug 11 07:19 |
| schestowitz | I wasn't ascribing that to neocons | Aug 11 07:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/101551534864736256 https://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/101551925450911744 | Aug 11 08:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | @keithccurtis: @schestowitz My point is that the neocon term is used as a slur usually. It is meant as an insult typically against Jews. | Aug 11 08:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | @keithccurtis: @schestowitz Jews who go from liberal to conservative are considered apostates and demonized. You play along by also using the slur. | Aug 11 08:19 |
| MinceR | oh no, someone demonized someone who moved towards authoritarianism! this will not stand! | Aug 11 09:43 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Aug 11 09:45 |
| schestowitz | nnl | Aug 11 09:45 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Aug 11 09:45 |
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| schestowitz | streets are still empty | Aug 11 13:13 |
| schestowitz | due to riot fears | Aug 11 13:14 |
| schestowitz | I was alone in gym and pool for 2 hours | Aug 11 13:14 |
| MinceR | nice | Aug 11 13:16 |
| schestowitz | Only 50 people came in over the past 2 days | Aug 11 13:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, fear is always good. | Aug 11 13:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | another happy side benefit of controlling the media | Aug 11 13:39 |
| MinceR | Fear will keep the local systems in line. | Aug 11 13:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | LOL, exactly. | Aug 11 13:42 |
| schestowitz | fera=respect? | Aug 11 13:43 |
| schestowitz | *fear | Aug 11 13:43 |
| MinceR | Fear is the mind-killer. | Aug 11 13:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you know what i mean. | Aug 11 13:44 |
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| schestowitz | > No IRC Today, | Aug 11 16:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 11 16:32 |
| schestowitz | > Had an inquiry: | Aug 11 16:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 11 16:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/08/10/062225/The-London-Riots-and-Facial-Recognition-Technology | Aug 11 16:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 11 16:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: The London Riots and Facial Recognition Technology - Slashdot .::. Size~: 177.7 KB | Aug 11 16:32 |
| schestowitz | > http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/08/01/1533210/How-Face-Recognition-Can-Uncover-SSNs | Aug 11 16:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: How Face Recognition Can Uncover SSNs - Slashdot .::. Size~: 136.14 KB | Aug 11 16:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 11 16:32 |
| schestowitz | > Can you clarify your research into facial recognition technology? | Aug 11 16:32 |
| schestowitz | We develop a general technique that works on arbitrary surfaces, in 3-D. It does not apply to face, it applies to any pair of surfaces. It actualy requires a special type of scanner, so all the video footage people use to surveillance is of no value to us. | Aug 11 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Someone try to suggest I'm Big Brother | Aug 11 16:33 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80694916 | Aug 11 16:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | @agentsmith's status on Thursday, 11-Aug-11 15:20:10 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Oh, PCLOS, my fav one is not even in the list... Bummer. | Aug 11 16:35 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Aug 11 16:35 |
| schestowitz | Top Linux distros | Aug 11 16:35 |
| schestowitz | From Linux.com | Aug 11 16:35 |
| schestowitz | Fedora pretends one man's blog post is the Linux Foundation voting or something | Aug 11 16:35 |
| schestowitz | http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/trolling-a-potato-chip-collector.gif | Aug 11 16:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | Aug 11 16:40 |
| schestowitz | followup: | Aug 11 16:45 |
| schestowitz | > Can this research be used for people who would implement the | Aug 11 16:45 |
| schestowitz | > technology in CCTV? Not saying you guys are actually doing it | Aug 11 16:45 |
| schestowitz | > yourselves. | Aug 11 16:45 |
| schestowitz | No, CCTV is purely 2-D and non-frontal. One theoretical application of | Aug 11 16:45 |
| schestowitz | what we do might be a gate where you need to have your face scanned in | Aug 11 16:46 |
| schestowitz | order for the gate to open (access control). But it's not done. It would | Aug 11 16:46 |
| schestowitz | be expensive to implement and prone to error. A better application would | Aug 11 16:46 |
| schestowitz | be triangulating surfaces of organs, e.g. from MRI, then segmenting them | Aug 11 16:46 |
| schestowitz | for surgery and measurement for diagnoses. My colleagues are aware of my | Aug 11 16:46 |
| schestowitz | inclinations, which one jokingly called "anarchistic". | Aug 11 16:46 |
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| qu1j0t3 | lol | Aug 11 16:49 |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I remember what we chatted about yesterday and it reminded me about what someone said to me. I know your opinion of conscripting as a totalitarian institution to indoctrinate everyone into combat. But one of the interesting effects of it is that it makes society as a whole more vested in what the military is doing. For example, conscripting for Vietnam is what made the protest against continued | Aug 11 17:04 |
| Ziomatrix | involvement so big and compelling enough to effectively made a majority of Americans end involvement through cutting of Congressional funding. In Israel for example, notice that they never got involved into a war of attrition. Thats due to the fact that they can't afford to lose a chunk of the population. Finland also has conscripting but since they have been at peace for long enough many people can volunteer | Aug 11 17:04 |
| Ziomatrix | utilities or a hospital rather then defence. | Aug 11 17:04 |
| schestowitz | Finland was once attacked by the Russian, even more over the centuries | Aug 11 17:06 |
| schestowitz | Not sure how serious this was... | Aug 11 17:06 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: Finland was occupied by Russia for a good while. They also fought twice during WWII when the Soviet Union tried to take them over. | Aug 11 17:07 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: interestingly enough Finnish forces make up a large percentage of UN Peacekeepers | Aug 11 17:07 |
| schestowitz | I had a friend from there when I started university (first guy from CS whom I made friends with) and he had done some service there, which they do easily | Aug 11 17:07 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes it's basic learning and not any oppression involved | Aug 11 17:07 |
| schestowitz | IOW, not professional-but-volunteer occupation | Aug 11 17:08 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: anyway all I'm stating is that if having a democracy means everyone having equal say and participation in government, wouldn't it make sense for everyone to be aware of even the less tasteful side of it in order to avoid waging wars on private interest? | Aug 11 17:08 |
| schestowitz | But some are given no choice | Aug 11 17:09 |
| schestowitz | In places like Germany I'm not required to go to the army | Aug 11 17:09 |
| schestowitz | There are enough who are willing | Aug 11 17:09 |
| schestowitz | And in the UK too | Aug 11 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Some are out of work | Aug 11 17:09 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: but like Finland do they then have to choose another public service? | Aug 11 17:10 |
| schestowitz | Promise and bed and food can have them happily shipped to Pakistan with a gun and tin hat | Aug 11 17:10 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: well the army is one of the few institutions at least in the west that have given benefits to next of kin after death. | Aug 11 17:10 |
| schestowitz | publlc service is a form of tax | Aug 11 17:10 |
| schestowitz | Think who benefits from it | Aug 11 17:11 |
| schestowitz | And I don't mean just mutual investment from the population | Aug 11 17:11 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: large parts of America may have not had electricity for decades after its invention if it wasn't for the Tennessee Valley Authority and other public services. | Aug 11 17:12 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: some people benefit more then others when it comes to almost any service. | Aug 11 17:12 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: its just a matter of how exclusive the benefits are, not if imo | Aug 11 17:13 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: at least now in the US budget cuts are leading to the dismantlement of Czars, starting with the Car Czar. | Aug 11 17:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ziomatrix: many Western countries have no national service commitment at all. | Aug 11 17:14 |
| Ziomatrix | http://bit.ly/prJoTs | Aug 11 17:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Ron Bloom, 'car czar' who oversaw auto industry bailout, stepping down from Obama admin | MLive.com .::. Size~: 61.35 KB | Aug 11 17:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | Heckuva job, Bllomie. | Aug 11 17:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | Bloomie* | Aug 11 17:15 |
| Ziomatrix | qu1j0t3: I know and the US has been pioneering that as a policy of principle | Aug 11 17:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ziomatrix: the US has a weird culture of volunteerism | Aug 11 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Does it? | Aug 11 17:16 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was too materialistic | Aug 11 17:16 |
| Ziomatrix | qu1j0t3: its not weird, its patriotic! :-D | Aug 11 17:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah it's kind of surreal. i don't know how useful it is. | Aug 11 17:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ziomatrix: well, nationalism and patriotism i consider forms of insanity :D | Aug 11 17:16 |
| schestowitz | I thought national pride was greater in West Europe | Aug 11 17:16 |
| schestowitz | The US is a melting pot | Aug 11 17:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: exactly | Aug 11 17:16 |
| schestowitz | So for many people -- less sense of belonging | Aug 11 17:16 |
| Ziomatrix | qu1j0t3: well it means that the most meaningful but not necessarily professional oversee certain local committees and end up in other government positions down the line. | Aug 11 17:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | racial homogeneity is an old world thing | Aug 11 17:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes | Aug 11 17:17 |
| schestowitz | doesn't work in the UK | Aug 11 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Multiculturalism fails badly | Aug 11 17:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Aug 11 17:17 |
| schestowitz | And you see it well in Manchester | Aug 11 17:17 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: well since the US is founded on ideals rather then creed we like to believe our nationalism transcends race and ethnicity. | Aug 11 17:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: that's the party line, yes. | Aug 11 17:17 |
| schestowitz | esp. if the culture has visual characteristics | Aug 11 17:17 |
| Ziomatrix | and religion too | Aug 11 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Greater Manchester is like a set of suburbs | Aug 11 17:18 |
| schestowitz | you could plot them down on the map with religious symbols | Aug 11 17:18 |
| schestowitz | and steteotypes like skinheads | Aug 11 17:18 |
| Ziomatrix | anyway thats my 2 cents on the issue, ciao for now. | Aug 11 17:18 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: you can create a cult of personality through almost anything, including MP3 players. ;-) | Aug 11 17:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/10/app_inventor/ | Aug 11 17:23 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Google kills off app maker • The Register .::. Size~: 24.81 KB | Aug 11 17:23 |
| schestowitz | ogg players are not a cult :-) | Aug 11 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Another followup: | Aug 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | > What about with 3D cameras? | Aug 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | They don't work in this context unless the person is very, very close to them and not moving at all for a period of time. Stereovision doesn't yield good enough geometry either. It's not not a tool to be used on unwilling people; they actually have to want to be scanned. | Aug 11 17:39 |
| schestowitz | I'm assumed -- wrongly -- to be working on Big Brother stuff | Aug 11 17:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/tactile-imaging-gelsight-0809.html | Aug 11 17:45 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Aug 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | Over-the-line headline http://www.muktware.com/news/2201 | Aug 11 17:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Court Bans Samsung Tab In Germany, Heil Apple! | Muktware .::. Size~: 26.55 KB | Aug 11 17:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | wow | Aug 11 17:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: a twitter follower began to argue that I should not use words like fascism to describe current governments... | Aug 11 17:47 |
| *qu1j0t3 laughs | Aug 11 17:47 | |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: handy link, thanks | Aug 11 17:47 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: it's the sofer word for "nazism" | Aug 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Now they want to make fascism not permited? | Aug 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | *tted | Aug 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | What words will we be left with? Socialism? | Aug 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | It's getting hard to communiate with erosion of common words people can relate to and understand | Aug 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz | You need to make up new ones, or hijack some like some people did ("bright", "gay") | Aug 11 17:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no, words like socialism have been VERBOTEN for a while. | Aug 11 17:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it has deliberately been made a dirty word in the mainstream | Aug 11 17:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: even on the municipal level, the monkeys in power here call their opponents "communists". | Aug 11 17:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: for suggesting that we pay tax for necessary services | Aug 11 17:50 |
| *qu1j0t3 shakes head | Aug 11 17:50 | |
| schestowitz | approval shake? | Aug 11 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Or side to side? | Aug 11 17:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | no, shake of bafflement | Aug 11 17:51 |
| *schestowitz can't visualise it | Aug 11 17:51 | |
| qu1j0t3 | since when was taxation for social/city services communism? | Aug 11 17:52 |
| schestowitz | skaing is usually posisit9ve | Aug 11 17:52 |
| schestowitz | "he shook his head" | Aug 11 17:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no, SMH = shaking my head = bafflement | Aug 11 17:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you're confused with nodding head | Aug 11 17:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | nodding is usually agreement | Aug 11 17:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | shaking is negative | Aug 11 17:52 |
| schestowitz | ok, fair enough | Aug 11 17:52 |
| schestowitz | Yu socialist marxist fascist wealth-redistributor! | Aug 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Think about another world | Aug 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Where the above would not be so abjectly unacceptable | Aug 11 17:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | lol | Aug 11 17:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | right | Aug 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Loaded terms | Aug 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz | To help one financially is not immoral | Aug 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz | i give part of ,my wage to a member of my family to help | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | I guess it makes me a "Marxist" /sarcasm | Aug 11 17:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: as we've discussed before... "protester" is also intended to have criminal associations, in the mainstream | Aug 11 17:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | same as 'dissenter' | Aug 11 17:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'activist' | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | well, protester is | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | yes | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Wait.. | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | You beat me to it | Aug 11 17:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'dissident' | Aug 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | I thought "campaginer" | Aug 11 17:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'social worker' | Aug 11 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Like with signs and walking in human chain, hand in hand | Aug 11 17:55 |
| schestowitz | "Protest" | Aug 11 17:55 |
| schestowitz | "The group was dissenting and protesting" -- WSJ | Aug 11 17:55 |
| schestowitz | "OMG.. I read that like socialist worker LULZ" --ignorasmus | Aug 11 17:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'organiser | Aug 11 17:56 |
| schestowitz | *ignoramus | Aug 11 17:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'unionist' | Aug 11 17:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'leftie' | Aug 11 17:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'pinko' | Aug 11 17:56 |
| schestowitz | ringleader is WELL charged | Aug 11 17:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'radical' | Aug 11 17:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'extremist' | Aug 11 17:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'antisocial element' | Aug 11 17:56 |
| schestowitz | gangs of * | Aug 11 17:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'sociopath' | Aug 11 17:56 |
| schestowitz | disruptor | Aug 11 17:56 |
| schestowitz | vandal | Aug 11 17:56 |
| schestowitz | Opposer | Aug 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | anti-* | Aug 11 17:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | disturbance | Aug 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | "Anti-Microsoft" is common | Aug 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | techrights had half a dozen posts about the "anti-Micorosft" label | Aug 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | It almost picked up as "anti-Novell" | Aug 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | People tried that against me | Aug 11 17:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | i usually say just that i am anti-crime and anti-tyranny | Aug 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | "anti-Apple" hasn't taken off yet | Aug 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Because Apple users are xenophobes | Aug 11 17:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | unfortunately Microsoft and various nations fall on the wrong side of that bar :) | Aug 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | And they know i | Aug 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | it | Aug 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | nuisance | Aug 11 17:58 |
| schestowitz | riot | Aug 11 17:58 |
| schestowitz | !google "Noise pollution" | Aug 11 17:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Noise pollution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_pollution | Aug 11 17:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Noise Pollution | Air and Radiation | US EPA | http://www.epa.gov/air/noise.html | Aug 11 17:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Noise Pollution Clearinghouse, quieting noise pollution | http://www.nonoise.org/ | Aug 11 17:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - What is Noise Pollution? - What noise pollution is, what causes ... | http://what-is-what.com/what_is/noise_pollution.html | Aug 11 17:58 |
| schestowitz | !google noise terrorism schneier | Aug 11 17:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Schneier on Security: Fighting Terrorism with Cupcakes | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2011/06/fighting_terror.html | Aug 11 17:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Security and Terrorism Expert Bruce Schneier: TSA Scans "Won't ... | http://www.schneier.com/news-103.html | Aug 11 17:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Schneier on Security: The Social Dynamics of Terror | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2011/01/the_social_dyna.html | Aug 11 17:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Schneier on Security: Space Terrorism | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/06/space_terrorism.html | Aug 11 17:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | rioter, hooligan, thug | Aug 11 17:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | lout, yob | Aug 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | compare to: | Aug 11 17:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | rebel is supposed to be a good word | Aug 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | kettle, rendition... | Aug 11 17:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | George Lucas romanticised it | Aug 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | rebel=ak47 | Aug 11 17:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | and the American Civil War | Aug 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | ak47=rebel | Aug 11 17:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | militant | Aug 11 17:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | insurgent | Aug 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | conclusion= only bad people use ak47 | Aug 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | colt m16=democracy | Aug 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | mig=them | Aug 11 17:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | have you read John Pilger yet? | Aug 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | f16=us | Aug 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | US | Aug 11 18:00 |
| schestowitz | I just watched his talks and films | Aug 11 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes he writrs conrib. articles | Aug 11 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Never read books | Aug 11 18:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | the books are very good. | Aug 11 18:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | background material. especially on the UK | Aug 11 18:01 |
| schestowitz | they're dead trees | Aug 11 18:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | e.g. "Distant Voices" | Aug 11 18:01 |
| schestowitz | coal not used for power here much | Aug 11 18:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | talks about the Thatcher/Major/Reagan/Murdoch years | Aug 11 18:01 |
| schestowitz | So I don't need to kill plants much to make reading available | Aug 11 18:01 |
| schestowitz | median in pixel mode | Aug 11 18:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | I don't buy new books. | Aug 11 18:02 |
| schestowitz | and I can bookmark, save, share, etc. | Aug 11 18:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | i borrow or buy used, and i give them away | Aug 11 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Good | Aug 11 18:02 |
| schestowitz | You shave!! | Aug 11 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Chav! | Aug 11 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Aug 11 18:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | LOL, how do you know? | Aug 11 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Anothersimiliarity in words | Aug 11 18:02 |
| schestowitz | The other day my mates judged people based on shaved and not shaved | Aug 11 18:02 |
| schestowitz | As if just shaving makes one innocent | Aug 11 18:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | wow | Aug 11 18:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | how does that work?!?!?!?! | Aug 11 18:03 |
| schestowitz | "Chav" is a social pressure tool | Aug 11 18:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | wow | Aug 11 18:03 |
| schestowitz | My friend says it's intended to motivate people to work hard, for fear of being called that | Aug 11 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Or "scouser", which no longer means just the accent | Aug 11 18:03 |
| schestowitz | SCO user LOL | Aug 11 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Never thought of that. | Aug 11 18:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | remind me what a Brummie is? | Aug 11 18:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | I follow this cute brummie chick | Aug 11 18:04 |
| schestowitz | !google "scouser" | Aug 11 18:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Scouse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouse | Aug 11 18:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Urban Dictionary: SCOUSER | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3DSCOUSER | Aug 11 18:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Scouser - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Scouser | Aug 11 18:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - typical scouser - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DqGistJNGLqE | Aug 11 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Birmingham fialect | Aug 11 18:04 |
| schestowitz | dialect | Aug 11 18:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | ahright | Aug 11 18:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzb7BanTuXw | Aug 11 18:05 |
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| qu1j0t3 | http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/europe/london-will-look-to-us-anti-gang-strategies-limits-to-social-media-cameron/article2126114/ | Aug 11 18:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: London will look to U.S. anti-gang strategies, limits to social media: Cameron - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 99.66 KB | Aug 11 18:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | journalist: Jill LAWLESS hehe | Aug 11 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like pseudonym | Aug 11 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=dABo_DCIdpM&NR=1 | Aug 11 19:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=72958000000000493 http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=72958000000000487 | Aug 11 21:12 |
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| schestowitz | Odd blog.. http://qubitarkhive.com/ | Aug 11 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Ender's | Aug 11 21:52 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qubitarkhive/status/101755538588704769 | Aug 11 21:52 |
| TechrightsSocial | @qubitarkhive: @schestowitz kooky alert: perhaps they believe they own the DNA they genetically engineered into us | Aug 11 21:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: check my twitter feed. you should follow that guy julianyon or at least look at his feed for some good points. | Aug 11 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | oh my god, this is so k00ky: http://qubitarkhive.com/video/ | Aug 11 22:15 |
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| schestowitz | He makes up science | Aug 11 22:15 |
| schestowitz | And then excuses that as being metaphoical | Aug 11 22:15 |
| schestowitz | And brandon absorbs this nonsense | Aug 11 22:16 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: rting | Aug 11 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/101759892779577347 | Aug 11 22:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | @qu1j0t3: I'm getting the impression the UK is full of scum. The sort of scum that defends neo-fascist government, police brutality, &social injustice | Aug 11 22:28 |
| schestowitz | good finds there | Aug 11 22:29 |
| schestowitz | I don't syndictate that topic myself, so I hope you find what's right | Aug 11 22:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CarlaSchroder/status/101764729130856449 | Aug 11 22:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | @CarlaSchroder: @schestowitz LOL Roy, you say the things I am too chicken to say :) | Aug 11 22:33 |
| schestowitz | :-) and I get flack for it | Aug 11 22:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Aug 11 22:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | nice comment | Aug 11 22:34 |
| schestowitz | she used to edit Linux Today | Aug 11 22:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/techdirt/status/101765842383020032 | Aug 11 22:38 |
| TechrightsSocial | @techdirt: UK Prime Minister Wants To Ban Suspected Rioters From Facebook & Twitter http://dlvr.it/frgpD | Aug 11 22:38 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: UK Prime Minister Wants To Ban Suspected Rioters From Facebook & Twitter | Techdirt .::. Size~: 39.68 KB | Aug 11 22:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | LOL | Aug 11 22:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah, and eliminate their participation in social programs. isn't this borderline illegal? | Aug 11 22:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | they're basically assuming the right to write their own punishments | Aug 11 22:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | new Monarchy | Aug 11 22:45 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: less prominent in the 'riots' were some young girls | Aug 11 22:48 |
| schestowitz | Not troublemakers | Aug 11 22:48 |
| schestowitz | And not prominent in the events | Aug 11 22:48 |
| schestowitz | But there have genusine concerns about their fututre | Aug 11 22:48 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they saw these events as a flicker of a chance and opportunity | Aug 11 22:49 |
| schestowitz | But they were not organised | Aug 11 22:49 |
| schestowitz | They should have prepared banners or something | Aug 11 22:49 |
| schestowitz | To make at least *their* case heard | Aug 11 22:49 |
| schestowitz | But nobody came organnised to make a statement, even though I walked past some cameramen | Aug 11 22:49 |
| schestowitz | They could have done things right | Aug 11 22:49 |
| schestowitz | But I would not want to be associated among organisers of a real campaign cause the media groups everything as "riots" | Aug 11 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Which made me wodner | Aug 11 22:50 |
| schestowitz | If theoretically I stried organising a peaceful protest now | Aug 11 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Over the issue of poverty | Aug 11 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Given the new laws, I'd be seen as an offender, I think | Aug 11 22:51 |
| schestowitz | They showed burning buses on TVs to scare the public and fear over the issue of stability | Aug 11 22:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes, I think the whole 'trial by flickr' thing is not being properly examined. | Aug 11 23:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: this was a factor at Toronto G20 as well | Aug 11 23:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: again, it's a deliberate tactic. | Aug 11 23:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | if people are afraid of being photographed at a protest, they will stay home. | Aug 11 23:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | the police were openly photographing and videotaping G20 | Aug 11 23:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | ...which really should be illegal. | Aug 11 23:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/derekrootboy/status/101772651470651392 | Aug 11 23:08 |
| TechrightsSocial | @derekrootboy: Nick Clegg predicted riots if Cameron formed a government. Resentment against police was part of the fuel for riot that's years old. #bbcqt | Aug 11 23:08 |
| schestowitz | I still don't want harassment from police | Aug 11 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Never had any | Aug 11 23:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | who does? | Aug 11 23:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's part of the point. | Aug 11 23:08 |
| schestowitz | But they're just 200 yards away from my house, maybe 300 | Aug 11 23:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | you shouldn't risk harassment by being on the street unless you are suspected of a crime. | Aug 11 23:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | the police behaviour does not reflect that | Aug 11 23:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | rt'd | Aug 11 23:09 |
| schestowitz | ok | Aug 11 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Has Cameron made an attempt to meet community leaders and listen to their grievance? | Aug 11 23:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | hah! he can't afford to show any skin | Aug 11 23:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: we are talking about a totalitarian, one-unified-front response from govt and media | Aug 11 23:27 |
| schestowitz | I bet it would legitimise the 'rioters' | Aug 11 23:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | exactly | Aug 11 23:28 |
| schestowitz | And bury some of the underlying issues | Aug 11 23:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | it would be a crack in the lies | Aug 11 23:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | a crack in the narrative | Aug 11 23:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | i am seeing britons basically say: "everyone on the streets is a criminal" | Aug 11 23:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | "shoot them all" -- typical Murdoch reader | Aug 11 23:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | "decent poor people stay at home" | Aug 11 23:30 |
| schestowitz | http://openstack.blogspot.com/2011/08/blog-we-stupid.html | Aug 11 23:43 |
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| schestowitz | The old 'ODF' guy | Aug 11 23:43 |
| schestowitz | Maybe sitting on piles od debt | Aug 11 23:43 |
| schestowitz | Like many USians | Aug 11 23:43 |
| schestowitz | Brits too | Aug 11 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Except the poor | Aug 11 23:44 |
| schestowitz | They get no loans from banks, they get laughed out | Aug 11 23:44 |
| schestowitz | and left out, too | Aug 11 23:44 |
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