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schestowitz | (00:59:59) : i think | Aug 16 01:03 |
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schestowitz | (01:00:52) : it'll be auto restarted at 6:25am anyway | Aug 16 01:03 |
schestowitz | (01:01:35): so unless your trying to jabber someone at ..... it doesnt really need fixing | Aug 16 01:03 |
schestowitz | (01:01:58) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: hehe | Aug 16 01:03 |
schestowitz | (01:02:05) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: way to 'fix' it, cron restart :-) | Aug 16 01:03 |
schestowitz | (01:02:18) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: LOOK, it works!!! | Aug 16 01:03 |
schestowitz | ^^ jabber server = POS | Aug 16 01:03 |
abeNd-org | eh? | Aug 16 01:50 |
abeNd-org | openfire is great | Aug 16 01:50 |
qu1j0t3 | as is ejabberd :) | Aug 16 02:02 |
abeNd-org | oh, never used it | Aug 16 02:04 |
abeNd-org | openfire rocks though | Aug 16 02:04 |
abeNd-org | would even use that on my old palmos phone, it was pretty sweet | Aug 16 02:05 |
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schestowitz | abeNd-org: it crashes a lot | Aug 16 02:19 |
schestowitz | on our server and clients' too | Aug 16 02:20 |
schestowitz | gn | Aug 16 02:20 |
abeNd-org | did you bump the amount of memory you give java with it? i found i needed to bump it up & it ran stable for me | Aug 16 02:21 |
abeNd-org | what all addins/plugins do you use with it & how many users at once? | Aug 16 02:21 |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80898304 | Aug 16 08:59 |
TechrightsSocial | @Christian Einfeldt (einfeldt)'s status on Monday, 15-Aug-11 20:05:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz Here r our earrings in silver http://t.co/VY2lRgC & gold http://t.co/61rCqJZ Thx either way! | Aug 16 08:59 |
TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Partimus Blog › Fundraiser: Ubuntu Earrings from Boutique Academia – Now in Silver! .::. Size~: 14.67 KB | Aug 16 08:59 |
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schestowitz | Unless there's a new blog post, I still can't quite think of a way to bring this up again (as I did before) | Aug 16 08:59 |
schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > I found a video on the Washington Post site that interviewed Carl Icahn | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > about the Google Motorola deal. He stammers and hems and haws a lot | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > about his part in the deal - but he actually couldn't claim any part in | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > it - personally, I think it took him by surprise, I don't think it's | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > what he had planned...but who knows. Towards the end he gripes about all | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > the regulations that make it tough to take over companies. It's a little | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > sickening, actually, but interesting too. Thought you might like to see | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > it too. | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/icahn-says-motorola-acted-responsibly-in-sale-to-google/2011/08/15/gIQAXZTjHJ_video.html | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > | Aug 16 09:03 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Icahn Says Motorola Acted Responsibly in Sale to Google - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 193.72 KB | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > :) | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | Corporate raider 'activist' Icahn may have also considered selling it to Microsoft/Apple. We may never know. Maybe Google bought it defensively. It's said to have overpaid by more than 50%. | Aug 16 09:03 |
schestowitz | > Thanks Roy. | Aug 16 09:06 |
schestowitz | > | Aug 16 09:06 |
schestowitz | > As I understand I should login to my account @ server with ssh -X and | Aug 16 09:06 |
schestowitz | > run your mb script from /home/schestow. Let me know if this procedure is | Aug 16 09:06 |
schestowitz | > correct and I'll test it. | Aug 16 09:06 |
schestowitz | Yes, that's what I hope would work flawlessly. Try to emulate the options on the screenshot on the left. | Aug 16 09:06 |
schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/jiLYa.gif | Aug 16 09:26 |
TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | Aug 16 09:26 |
schestowitz | cuhttps://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/103217125933596672 | Aug 16 10:51 |
TechrightsSocial | @ubuntuuser: New article by @jonobacon posted: Working Together http://t.co/V0M3O09 | Aug 16 10:51 |
schestowitz | PDF? WTH? | Aug 16 10:51 |
TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Working Together / 9 / 2011 / Archive / Magazine / Home - Ubuntu User .::. Size~: 20.09 KB | Aug 16 10:51 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/103397907633414145 | Aug 16 10:53 |
TechrightsSocial | @keithccurtis: @schestowitz I was just kidding, you didn't trust my motives for my past so I was just teasing you back. | Aug 16 10:53 |
schestowitz | OK then :-) | Aug 16 10:53 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80926363 | Aug 16 11:03 |
TechrightsSocial | @Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-11 09:53:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz do you have a source? I've seen it around Identica but nothing on news sites (other than that there are 'calls for') | Aug 16 11:03 |
schestowitz | "Starting this week, Cameron et al. can probably shut down social networks if they become a perceived 'nuisance'. We all lost some rights." | Aug 16 11:03 |
schestowitz | I do not have a source, I also said it's a "probably". They phase in the idea, trying to normalise censorship in people's minds. | Aug 16 11:04 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80926733 | Aug 16 11:10 |
TechrightsSocial | @Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-11 10:02:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Fair enough. Saying 'starting this week' made me think there was actually some change made. | Aug 16 11:10 |
schestowitz | As expected, this week people no longer talk about the riots. But their bad legacy remains with us, also in law and police powers. | Aug 16 11:11 |
schestowitz | Think of the effects (in law) of London burning in the context of the Reichstag burning, making room for all sorts of laws | Aug 16 11:12 |
schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_(building)#Third_Reich | Aug 16 11:13 |
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schestowitz | "This proved to be a valuable excuse for the Nazis to suspend most rights provided for by the 1919 Weimar" | Aug 16 11:14 |
schestowitz | ♻ @satipera ... If a non British EU citizen applied for the job as head of the Metropolitan police would the application be accepted? | Aug 16 11:24 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80927389 | Aug 16 11:24 |
TechrightsSocial | @Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-11 10:19:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Interesting comparison, am reading now | Aug 16 11:24 |
schestowitz | LOL "♻ @anivar: Seven #Wonders of Great #India http://t.co/YQgal3P #annahazare " | Aug 16 11:26 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: yfrog Photo : http://yfrog.com/h66edwaj Shared by anivar .::. Size~: 33.14 KB | Aug 16 11:26 |
schestowitz | LOL | Aug 16 11:26 |
schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/86fSr.jpg | Aug 16 11:43 |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/78304409#notice-80928608 /conversation/78304409#notice-80928608 | Aug 16 12:09 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.73 KB | Aug 16 12:09 |
schestowitz | "When will Windows be installable from SD card? Or Mac OS X enable network booting? When will they have feature parity wrt KDE? Uptime too?" | Aug 16 12:10 |
schestowitz | http://www.geonames.org/2746005 | Aug 16 12:10 |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80928608 | Aug 16 12:10 |
TechrightsSocial | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-11 10:52:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz when easter and christmas fall on the same date that pigs and cows take to the sky?!? | Aug 16 12:10 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80875507 | Aug 16 12:11 |
TechrightsSocial | @Patrick McFarland (diablod3)'s status on Monday, 15-Aug-11 11:25:25 UTC - Identi.ca: Inuit (a Microsoft company) basically fucks Mac users, why no FOSS banking solution backed by banks? http://ur1.ca/4x3qn !fsf | Aug 16 12:11 |
TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Wells Fargo and Intuit Join Forces to Ruin My Weekend | augustjackson dot net .::. Size~: 55.41 KB | Aug 16 12:11 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80791783 | Aug 16 12:14 |
TechrightsSocial | @Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn)'s status on Saturday, 13-Aug-11 11:53:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @fontana, this at least explains why Kim #Weins of #OpenLogic was asking all those strange questions re: ☁ compliance at the !FSF fundraiser | Aug 16 12:14 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80797139 | Aug 16 12:14 |
TechrightsSocial | @Richard Fontana (fontana)'s status on Saturday, 13-Aug-11 14:34:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @bkuhn The questions were really not so strange. !FSF should start to think about them if it hasn't been. | Aug 16 12:14 |
schestowitz | Maybe it's already a known fact, but OpenLogic is run by a Microsoft veteran | Aug 16 12:14 |
schestowitz | This one is so funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6_9QmM6TfE | Aug 16 12:37 |
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sebsebseb | hi | Aug 16 12:40 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80931057 | Aug 16 13:24 |
TechrightsSocial | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-11 12:00:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Is @davidgerard only on twitter or is Identi.ca search not working again. If former convince him to get an Identi.ca account. | Aug 16 13:24 |
schestowitz | AFAIK he's only on twitter. | Aug 16 13:24 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qubitarkhive/status/103455713317240832 | Aug 16 14:42 |
TechrightsSocial | @qubitarkhive: mmmm @schestowitz - progress http://t.co/QFO9Knm | Aug 16 14:42 |
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schestowitz | Murdochism xenophobia | Aug 16 14:42 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80931931 | Aug 16 14:42 |
TechrightsSocial | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-11 12:25:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ta, if you know him well or someone who does have a word about Identi.ca. | Aug 16 14:42 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes Murdochism | Aug 16 14:45 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the Reichstag reference is excellent | Aug 16 14:45 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you should dent this | Aug 16 14:45 |
qu1j0t3 | although, you will get a bunch of crap back -- I did for using the word "fascism" even though it's perfectly accurate | Aug 16 14:45 |
schestowitz | [14:45] <qu1j0t3> schestowitz: you should dent this | Aug 16 15:05 |
schestowitz | no | Aug 16 15:05 |
schestowitz | lime camparing camron to hitler | Aug 16 15:05 |
schestowitz | *ron | Aug 16 15:05 |
schestowitz | *like | Aug 16 15:05 |
*schestowitz eats | Aug 16 15:05 | |
schestowitz | *cameron | Aug 16 15:05 |
*schestowitz done eating | Aug 16 15:06 | |
schestowitz | OK, not I can type properly | Aug 16 15:07 |
schestowitz | Anyway, it's like the whole "Nazi Britain" thing | Aug 16 15:07 |
schestowitz | And those stories about US Nazis and parallels to the Nazi party in the UK way back in the days | Aug 16 15:07 |
schestowitz | Actually, the hotel where I work our turns out to have been a Nazi headquarters in the UK many moons ago | Aug 16 15:08 |
schestowitz | After the war it's all very hard to accept the UK hides in shame its citizens who are like neo-Nazis | Aug 16 15:08 |
schestowitz | In general, evoking any UK-to-Nazi comparisons is quite definitely going to be misinterpreted, taken out of context, etc. | Aug 16 15:09 |
schestowitz | Using the "Hitler" card to drive policy is the junk that Glenn Beck does.. leave it for scum like him to do this, even by mention of past events. | Aug 16 15:10 |
qu1j0t3 | yeah it's one of the ways the right wing has neutralised history | Aug 16 15:15 |
qu1j0t3 | they're doing the same thing with 9/11 | Aug 16 15:15 |
qu1j0t3 | turning it into a sacred, untouchable myth | Aug 16 15:15 |
qu1j0t3 | the aim being that nobody shall use events of the 20thC to analyse what they're doing today | Aug 16 15:16 |
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schestowitz | reichttp://www.ninesys.com/fun/ | Aug 16 18:47 |
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schestowitz | http://www.ninesys.com/fun/ | Aug 16 18:47 |
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schestowitz | qu1j0t3: did you see http://ur1.ca/4xb0d | Aug 16 19:30 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: England riots: pair jailed for four years for using Facebook to incite disorder | UK news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 101.23 KB | Aug 16 19:30 |
schestowitz | "son of snit" is flatfish... Trying to create a rift. Old strategy, I know how he plays this | Aug 16 19:48 |
qu1j0t3 | holy shit | Aug 16 19:48 |
qu1j0t3 | wow | Aug 16 19:48 |
qu1j0t3 | this is staggering | Aug 16 19:49 |
qu1j0t3 | i saw an article just now | Aug 16 19:49 |
qu1j0t3 | Cameron blaming "human rights" for the problem | Aug 16 19:49 |
qu1j0t3 | i've seen this tack before in North America | Aug 16 19:49 |
qu1j0t3 | it's a global strategy | Aug 16 19:49 |
qu1j0t3 | to diminish/eliminate human rights | Aug 16 19:49 |
qu1j0t3 | this is the kind of issue I will have to tweet | Aug 16 19:49 |
schestowitz | And other trolls carry on too http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/e87b05eabed7d9d1# | Aug 16 19:50 |
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schestowitz | Some pretend to support me while actually inciting against me | Aug 16 19:50 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: got link re Cameron? | Aug 16 19:50 |
qu1j0t3 | yes stand by | Aug 16 19:52 |
qu1j0t3 | http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1039798--rights-helped-lead-to-u-k-riots-cameron-says | Aug 16 19:54 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Rights helped lead to U.K. riots, Cameron says - thestar.com .::. Size~: 115.48 KB | Aug 16 19:54 |
schestowitz | > Corporate raider 'activist' Icahn may have also considered selling it to | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > Microsoft/Apple. We may never know. Maybe Google bought it defensively. | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > It's said to have overpaid by more than 50%. | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > - -- | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > ~~ Best of wishes | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > I don't know about the overpayment, but some say the possible long term | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > gains could make it a bargain. | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > Corporate raider activist is such a stupid title. In the interview Icahn | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > seemed to be saying that the regulations (that he doesn't like) are | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > keeping more people from becoming "activists" - made me roll my eyes | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > (and then I had to crawl under the desk to retrieve them, and now | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > they're dusty...blinkblinkblink) :D | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | LOL. I would be too. | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > I'm wondering, is Google a member of PubPat? (guess I should do some | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > research) | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | They're not AFAIK. But we need FFII supported.... | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | Aug 16 20:07 | |
schestowitz | > How did your server set up go? What distro did you end up using? | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | I use Debian. I was very, very frustrated after I lost my Puppy Linux... but it all ended up better with another solid KDE4 box. | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > When's the next techbytes? | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | Tim was amazingly busy at work. He's back now and we shall record soon. :-) | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | > Heh...I'm just full of questions today, ain't I? :) | Aug 16 20:07 |
schestowitz | Yeah, been a quiet day for me. Mate invited me to the gym (circuit class), but I declined cause I need to do some coding. :/ | Aug 16 20:08 |
schestowitz | http://mrpogson.com/2011/08/15/gaddafi-fires-the-first-scud/ | Aug 16 20:30 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Gaddafi Fires the First SCUD at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 33.91 KB | Aug 16 20:30 |
schestowitz | Satire or troll? https://twitter.com/The_Jules_W/status/103561287346298881 | Aug 16 21:38 |
TechrightsSocial | @The_Jules_W: @schestowitz Say what. Say what again. I dare ya, i double dare ya mother fucker. | Aug 16 21:38 |
qu1j0t3 | i don't know. i think he typo's SAY "THAT". | Aug 16 21:40 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: so the way to find out is to say whatever you said, again. | Aug 16 21:40 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: oh, it's satire. based on pulp fiction. | Aug 16 21:41 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: ignore :D | Aug 16 21:41 |
schestowitz | yes, but some people would not get it | Aug 16 23:13 |
qu1j0t3 | i'm sure a lot of people get into fights with those bots | Aug 16 23:14 |
qu1j0t3 | RedScareBot | Aug 16 23:14 |
schestowitz | yeah, we have one in identica | Aug 16 23:17 |
schestowitz | The trolls in usenet have a new strategy | Aug 16 23:20 |
schestowitz | Not so new.. | Aug 16 23:20 |
schestowitz | 4 years ago the troll tried this trick pretending to be female. | Aug 16 23:20 |
schestowitz | Trying to divide groups | Aug 16 23:20 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/103569408592580610 | Aug 16 23:34 |
TechrightsSocial | @wikileaks: Julian Assange--Cat Hater? Human Rights Lawyer who was there http://t.co/YIqlIQZ vs. NYT: http://t.co/QoMfpHX | Aug 16 23:34 |
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qu1j0t3 | wtf | Aug 16 23:36 |
qu1j0t3 | NYT? | Aug 16 23:36 |
qu1j0t3 | I guess they've given up on RAPIST | Aug 16 23:36 |
qu1j0t3 | ENEMY OF THE STATE | Aug 16 23:36 |
qu1j0t3 | what next? ASSANGE-ARSONIST & LOOTER? | Aug 16 23:36 |
qu1j0t3 | "Informant links Julian Assange to cause of London riots" | Aug 16 23:37 |
qu1j0t3 | "Government source blames London Riots on Wikileaks and other terrorist organisations" | Aug 16 23:37 |
qu1j0t3 | "More surveillance powers needed" | Aug 16 23:37 |
qu1j0t3 | "Assange a public menace, who should be detained indefinitely" | Aug 16 23:37 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/103589501720477697 | Aug 16 23:38 |
TechrightsSocial | @wikileaks: WikiLeaks Guatemala launches tomorrow! (english narrative) http://t.co/WyYeyYn | Aug 16 23:38 |
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schestowitz | qu1j0t3: he smells | Aug 16 23:38 |
schestowitz | Says the NYT | Aug 16 23:38 |
schestowitz | Maybe that's why there were nice to him | Aug 16 23:38 |
schestowitz | Getting closer | Aug 16 23:38 |
schestowitz | Than publishing stuff about his smell | Aug 16 23:38 |
schestowitz | Some papers want him in pop culture | Aug 16 23:39 |
schestowitz | In others he gets trial by media | Aug 16 23:39 |
schestowitz | LOL "trial by Murdoch" | Aug 16 23:40 |
schestowitz | Just not for Murdoch himself | Aug 16 23:40 |
schestowitz | #AbovetheLaw | Aug 16 23:40 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: oh, he smells? like RMS allegedly does | Aug 16 23:40 |
qu1j0t3 | "Look! he has long hair! I bet he smells, like all communists." | Aug 16 23:41 |
qu1j0t3 | Murdoch smells of Money. | Aug 16 23:41 |
qu1j0t3 | The best smell of all! | Aug 16 23:41 |
qu1j0t3 | Not Death! | Aug 16 23:41 |
qu1j0t3 | Doesn't smell of rotting babies. | Aug 16 23:41 |
qu1j0t3 | or perforated wedding parties | Aug 16 23:41 |
qu1j0t3 | guts leaking everywhere | Aug 16 23:41 |
qu1j0t3 | dying in agony | Aug 16 23:41 |
qu1j0t3 | bleeding to death | Aug 16 23:41 |
qu1j0t3 | drone watching from a safe distance | Aug 16 23:42 |
*qu1j0t3 is glad he doesn't have Murdoch's karma | Aug 16 23:42 | |
qu1j0t3 | or maybe I do | Aug 16 23:42 |
qu1j0t3 | from the past | Aug 16 23:42 |
schestowitz | [23:41] <qu1j0t3> or perforated wedding parties | Aug 16 23:46 |
schestowitz | Tuened to mayhem by drones | Aug 16 23:46 |
schestowitz | "it's their fault" | Aug 16 23:46 |
schestowitz | [for having a "terrorist" someone among the crowd] | Aug 16 23:46 |
schestowitz | Like those apache freaks | Aug 16 23:46 |
schestowitz | It's their faulyt for bringing kids to battle | Aug 16 23:46 |
schestowitz | When they shoot from above the van with the kids in it | Aug 16 23:46 |
schestowitz | And then justify it to thekmselves | Aug 16 23:47 |
schestowitz | It's the parent's fault !!! | Aug 16 23:47 |
schestowitz | Not ours, the invaders who heroically shoot from above indiscriminately | Aug 16 23:47 |
qu1j0t3 | yeah where's the "personal responsibility" | Aug 16 23:50 |
qu1j0t3 | that tripe from Cameron makes me see red | Aug 16 23:50 |
qu1j0t3 | "human rights" caused the riots. | Aug 16 23:50 |
qu1j0t3 | yes, because people who are respected... ALWAYS RIOT. | Aug 16 23:50 |
qu1j0t3 | it's the first thing you do, when the state treats you like a human being. Is you riot. | Aug 16 23:51 |
qu1j0t3 | what a load of fucking tosh | Aug 16 23:51 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's like checkpoint shootings | Aug 16 23:51 |
qu1j0t3 | "They shouldn't have driven fast." | Aug 16 23:51 |
qu1j0t3 | "How are we supposed to know they aren't terrorists?" | Aug 16 23:52 |
qu1j0t3 | The Paranoid Defence/ | Aug 16 23:52 |
qu1j0t3 | "I killed them before they could kill me." | Aug 16 23:52 |
qu1j0t3 | this is why ultimately Cameron is trying to wipe out the class that rioted | Aug 16 23:52 |
qu1j0t3 | because he knows they'll get him eventually | Aug 16 23:52 |
qu1j0t3 | it is literally a war; class war. | Aug 16 23:52 |
qu1j0t3 | real blood, real deaths | Aug 16 23:52 |
qu1j0t3 | no coincidence that the trigger was an extra judicial murder | Aug 16 23:52 |
qu1j0t3 | The problem is the very existence of men with guns on the street. | Aug 16 23:53 |
qu1j0t3 | i.e. police, occupation soldiers. | Aug 16 23:53 |
qu1j0t3 | in the end this is the circumstance that isn't tolerable | Aug 16 23:53 |
qu1j0t3 | funny thing how the men with guns are the ones who murder. [freedom flotilla] | Aug 16 23:54 |
schestowitz | [23:52] <qu1j0t3> real blood, real deaths | Aug 16 23:56 |
schestowitz | Only 5 died | Aug 16 23:56 |
schestowitz | I begged to say (but held back) that it's not too bad | Aug 16 23:56 |
schestowitz | And if civil rights were not respected, the police would go into major confrontation | Aug 16 23:56 |
schestowitz | And then there would be a war between brutal police and poor people with nothing to lose | Aug 16 23:56 |
schestowitz | i.e. more deaths | Aug 16 23:56 |
schestowitz | So the idea that civil rights were bad is silly | Aug 16 23:57 |
schestowitz | All that happened was, some windows broke | Aug 16 23:57 |
schestowitz | Some were put up in flames, but few... | Aug 16 23:57 |
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