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schestowitz(00:59:59) : i thinkAug 16 01:03
schestowitz(01:00:52) : it'll be auto restarted at 6:25am anywayAug 16 01:03
schestowitz(01:01:35): so unless your trying to jabber someone at ..... it doesnt really need fixingAug 16 01:03
schestowitz(01:01:58) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: heheAug 16 01:03
schestowitz(01:02:05) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: way to 'fix' it, cron restart :-)Aug 16 01:03
schestowitz(01:02:18) Dr. Roy Schestowitz: LOOK, it works!!!Aug 16 01:03
schestowitz^^ jabber server = POSAug 16 01:03
abeNd-orgeh?Aug 16 01:50
abeNd-orgopenfire is greatAug 16 01:50
qu1j0t3as is ejabberd :)Aug 16 02:02
abeNd-orgoh, never used itAug 16 02:04
abeNd-orgopenfire rocks thoughAug 16 02:04
abeNd-orgwould even use that on my old palmos phone, it was pretty sweetAug 16 02:05
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schestowitzabeNd-org: it crashes a lotAug 16 02:19
schestowitzon our server and clients' tooAug 16 02:20
schestowitzgnAug 16 02:20
abeNd-orgdid you bump the amount of memory you give java with it? i found i needed to bump it up & it ran stable for meAug 16 02:21
abeNd-orgwhat all addins/plugins do you use with it & how many users at once?Aug 16 02:21
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80898304Aug 16 08:59
TechrightsSocial@Christian Einfeldt (einfeldt)'s status on Monday, 15-Aug-11 20:05:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz Here r our earrings in silver http://t.co/VY2lRgC & gold http://t.co/61rCqJZ Thx either way!Aug 16 08:59
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Partimus Blog › Fundraiser: Ubuntu Earrings from Boutique Academia – Now in Silver! .::. Size~: 14.67 KBAug 16 08:59
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Partimus Blog › Fundraiser: Ubuntu Earrings from Boutique Academia .::. Size~: 14.75 KBAug 16 08:59
schestowitzUnless there's a new blog post, I still can't quite think of a way to bring this up again (as I did before)Aug 16 08:59
schestowitz> Hi Roy,Aug 16 09:03
schestowitz> Aug 16 09:03
schestowitz> I found a video on the Washington Post site that interviewed Carl IcahnAug 16 09:03
schestowitz> about the Google Motorola deal.  He stammers and hems and haws a lotAug 16 09:03
schestowitz> about his part in the deal - but he actually couldn't claim any part inAug 16 09:03
schestowitz> it - personally, I think it took him by surprise, I don't think it'sAug 16 09:03
schestowitz> what he had planned...but who knows. Towards the end he gripes about allAug 16 09:03
schestowitz> the regulations that make it tough to take over companies. It's a littleAug 16 09:03
schestowitz> sickening, actually, but interesting too.  Thought you might like to seeAug 16 09:03
schestowitz> it too.Aug 16 09:03
schestowitz> Aug 16 09:03
schestowitz> http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/icahn-says-motorola-acted-responsibly-in-sale-to-google/2011/08/15/gIQAXZTjHJ_video.htmlAug 16 09:03
schestowitz> Aug 16 09:03
TechrightsSocialTitle: Icahn Says Motorola Acted Responsibly in Sale to Google - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 193.72 KBAug 16 09:03
schestowitz> :)Aug 16 09:03
schestowitzCorporate raider 'activist' Icahn may have also considered selling it to Microsoft/Apple. We may never know. Maybe Google bought it defensively. It's said to have overpaid by more than 50%.Aug 16 09:03
schestowitz> Thanks Roy.Aug 16 09:06
schestowitz> Aug 16 09:06
schestowitz> As I understand I should login to my account @ server  with ssh -X andAug 16 09:06
schestowitz> run your mb  script from /home/schestow. Let me know if this procedure isAug 16 09:06
schestowitz> correct and I'll test it.Aug 16 09:06
schestowitzYes, that's what I hope would work flawlessly. Try to emulate the options on the screenshot on the left.Aug 16 09:06
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/jiLYa.gifAug 16 09:26
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/gif typeAug 16 09:26
schestowitzcuhttps://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/103217125933596672Aug 16 10:51
TechrightsSocial@ubuntuuser: New article by @jonobacon posted: Working Together http://t.co/V0M3O09Aug 16 10:51
schestowitzPDF? WTH?Aug 16 10:51
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Working Together / 9 / 2011 / Archive / Magazine / Home - Ubuntu User .::. Size~: 20.09 KBAug 16 10:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/103397907633414145Aug 16 10:53
TechrightsSocial@keithccurtis: @schestowitz I was just kidding, you didn't trust my motives for my past so I was just teasing you back.Aug 16 10:53
schestowitzOK then :-)Aug 16 10:53
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80926363Aug 16 11:03
TechrightsSocial@Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-11 09:53:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz do you have a source? I've seen it around Identica but nothing on news sites (other than that there are 'calls for')Aug 16 11:03
schestowitz"Starting this week, Cameron et al. can probably shut down social networks if they become a perceived 'nuisance'. We all lost some rights."Aug 16 11:03
schestowitzI do not have a source, I also said it's a "probably". They phase in the idea, trying to normalise censorship in people's minds.Aug 16 11:04
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/80926733Aug 16 11:10
TechrightsSocial@Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-11 10:02:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Fair enough. Saying 'starting this week' made me think there was actually some change made.Aug 16 11:10
schestowitzAs expected, this week people no longer talk about the riots. But their bad legacy remains with us, also in law and police powers.Aug 16 11:11
schestowitzThink of the effects (in law) of London burning in the context of the Reichstag burning, making room for all sorts of lawsAug 16 11:12
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_(building)#Third_ReichAug 16 11:13
TechrightsSocialTitle: Reichstag (building) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 70.71 KBAug 16 11:13
schestowitz"This proved to be a valuable excuse for the Nazis to suspend most rights provided for by the 1919 Weimar"Aug 16 11:14
schestowitz♻ @satipera ... If a non British EU citizen applied for the job as head of the Metropolitan police would the application be accepted? Aug 16 11:24
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80927389Aug 16 11:24
TechrightsSocial@Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-11 10:19:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Interesting comparison, am reading nowAug 16 11:24
schestowitzLOL "♻ @anivar: Seven #Wonders of Great #India  http://t.co/YQgal3P #annahazare  "Aug 16 11:26
TechrightsSocialTitle: yfrog Photo : http://yfrog.com/h66edwaj Shared by anivar .::. Size~: 33.14 KBAug 16 11:26
schestowitzLOLAug 16 11:26
schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/86fSr.jpgAug 16 11:43
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/78304409#notice-80928608 /conversation/78304409#notice-80928608Aug 16 12:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.73 KBAug 16 12:09
schestowitz"When will Windows be installable from SD card? Or Mac OS X enable network booting? When will they have feature parity wrt KDE? Uptime too?"Aug 16 12:10
schestowitzhttp://www.geonames.org/2746005Aug 16 12:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: Uden, Netherlands .::. Size~: 13.74 KBAug 16 12:10
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/80928608Aug 16 12:10
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-11 10:52:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz when easter and christmas fall on the same date that pigs and cows take to the sky?!?Aug 16 12:10
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/80875507Aug 16 12:11
TechrightsSocial@Patrick McFarland (diablod3)'s status on Monday, 15-Aug-11 11:25:25 UTC - Identi.ca: Inuit (a Microsoft company) basically fucks Mac users, why no FOSS banking solution backed by banks? http://ur1.ca/4x3qn !fsfAug 16 12:11
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/80791783Aug 16 12:14
TechrightsSocial@Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn)'s status on Saturday, 13-Aug-11 11:53:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @fontana, this at least explains why Kim #Weins of #OpenLogic was asking all those strange questions re: ☁ compliance at the !FSF fundraiserAug 16 12:14
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/80797139Aug 16 12:14
TechrightsSocial@Richard Fontana (fontana)'s status on Saturday, 13-Aug-11 14:34:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @bkuhn The questions were really not so strange. !FSF should start to think about them if it hasn't been.Aug 16 12:14
schestowitzMaybe it's already a known fact, but OpenLogic is run by a Microsoft veteranAug 16 12:14
schestowitzThis one is so funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6_9QmM6TfEAug 16 12:37
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80931057Aug 16 13:24
TechrightsSocial@satipera (satipera)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-11 12:00:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Is @davidgerard only on twitter or is Identi.ca search not working again. If former convince him to get an Identi.ca account.Aug 16 13:24
schestowitzAFAIK he's only on twitter.Aug 16 13:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qubitarkhive/status/103455713317240832Aug 16 14:42
TechrightsSocial@qubitarkhive: mmmm @schestowitz - progress http://t.co/QFO9KnmAug 16 14:42
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Housing benefits: Somali asylum seeker Saeed Khaliif's family put up in £2m house  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 109.11 KBAug 16 14:42
schestowitzMurdochism xenophobiaAug 16 14:42
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80931931Aug 16 14:42
TechrightsSocial@satipera (satipera)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-11 12:25:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ta, if you know him well or someone who does have a word about Identi.ca.Aug 16 14:42
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yes MurdochismAug 16 14:45
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the Reichstag reference is excellentAug 16 14:45
qu1j0t3schestowitz: you should dent thisAug 16 14:45
qu1j0t3although, you will get a bunch of crap back -- I did for using the word "fascism" even though it's perfectly accurateAug 16 14:45
schestowitz[14:45] <qu1j0t3> schestowitz: you should dent thisAug 16 15:05
schestowitznoAug 16 15:05
schestowitzlime camparing camron to hitlerAug 16 15:05
schestowitz*ronAug 16 15:05
schestowitz*likeAug 16 15:05
*schestowitz eatsAug 16 15:05
schestowitz*cameronAug 16 15:05
*schestowitz done eatingAug 16 15:06
schestowitzOK, not I can type properlyAug 16 15:07
schestowitzAnyway, it's like the whole "Nazi Britain" thingAug 16 15:07
schestowitzAnd those stories about US Nazis and parallels to the Nazi party in the UK way back in the daysAug 16 15:07
schestowitzActually, the hotel where I work our turns out to have been a Nazi headquarters in the UK many moons agoAug 16 15:08
schestowitzAfter the war it's all very hard to accept the UK hides in shame its citizens who are like neo-NazisAug 16 15:08
schestowitzIn general, evoking any UK-to-Nazi comparisons is quite definitely going to be misinterpreted, taken out of context, etc.Aug 16 15:09
schestowitzUsing the "Hitler" card to drive policy is the junk that Glenn Beck does.. leave it for scum like him to do this, even by mention of past events.Aug 16 15:10
qu1j0t3yeah it's one of the ways the  right wing has neutralised historyAug 16 15:15
qu1j0t3they're doing the same thing with 9/11Aug 16 15:15
qu1j0t3turning it into a sacred, untouchable mythAug 16 15:15
qu1j0t3the aim being that nobody shall use events of the 20thC to analyse what they're doing todayAug 16 15:16
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schestowitzreichttp://www.ninesys.com/fun/Aug 16 18:47
TechrightsSocialTitle: Redhat 5.1 Redneck Internationalization .::. Size~: 24.09 KBAug 16 18:47
schestowitzhttp://www.ninesys.com/fun/Aug 16 18:47
TechrightsSocialTitle: Redhat 5.1 Redneck Internationalization .::. Size~: 24.09 KBAug 16 18:47
schestowitzqu1j0t3: did you see  http://ur1.ca/4xb0d Aug 16 19:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: England riots: pair jailed for four years for using Facebook to incite disorder | UK news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 101.23 KBAug 16 19:30
schestowitz"son of snit" is flatfish... Trying to create a rift. Old strategy, I know how he plays thisAug 16 19:48
qu1j0t3holy shitAug 16 19:48
qu1j0t3wowAug 16 19:48
qu1j0t3this is staggeringAug 16 19:49
qu1j0t3i saw an article just nowAug 16 19:49
qu1j0t3Cameron blaming "human rights" for the problemAug 16 19:49
qu1j0t3i've seen this tack before in North AmericaAug 16 19:49
qu1j0t3it's a global strategyAug 16 19:49
qu1j0t3to diminish/eliminate human rightsAug 16 19:49
qu1j0t3this is the kind of issue I will have to tweetAug 16 19:49
schestowitzAnd other trolls carry on too http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/e87b05eabed7d9d1#Aug 16 19:50
TechrightsSocialTitle: comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 43.04 KBAug 16 19:50
schestowitzSome pretend to support me while actually inciting against meAug 16 19:50
schestowitzqu1j0t3: got link re Cameron?Aug 16 19:50
qu1j0t3yes stand byAug 16 19:52
qu1j0t3http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1039798--rights-helped-lead-to-u-k-riots-cameron-saysAug 16 19:54
TechrightsSocialTitle: Rights helped lead to U.K. riots, Cameron says - thestar.com .::. Size~: 115.48 KBAug 16 19:54
schestowitz>     Corporate raider 'activist' Icahn may have also considered selling it toAug 16 20:07
schestowitz>     Microsoft/Apple. We may never know. Maybe Google bought it defensively.Aug 16 20:07
schestowitz>     It's said to have overpaid by more than 50%.Aug 16 20:07
schestowitz> Aug 16 20:07
schestowitz>     - --Aug 16 20:07
schestowitz>                    ~~ Best of wishesAug 16 20:07
schestowitz> Aug 16 20:07
schestowitz> I don't know about the overpayment, but some say the possible long termAug 16 20:07
schestowitz> gains could make it a bargain. Aug 16 20:07
schestowitz> Aug 16 20:07
schestowitz> Corporate raider activist is such a stupid title. In the interview IcahnAug 16 20:07
schestowitz> seemed to be saying that the regulations (that he doesn't like) areAug 16 20:07
schestowitz> keeping more people from becoming "activists" - made me roll my eyesAug 16 20:07
schestowitz> (and then I had to crawl under the desk to retrieve them, and nowAug 16 20:07
schestowitz> they're dusty...blinkblinkblink)  :DAug 16 20:07
schestowitzLOL. I would be too.Aug 16 20:07
schestowitz> I'm wondering, is Google a member of PubPat? (guess I should do someAug 16 20:07
schestowitz> research) Aug 16 20:07
schestowitzThey're not AFAIK. But we need FFII supported....Aug 16 20:07
schestowitz Aug 16 20:07
schestowitz> How did your server set up go?  What distro did you end up using?Aug 16 20:07
schestowitzI use Debian. I was very, very frustrated after I lost my Puppy Linux... but it all ended up better with another solid KDE4 box.Aug 16 20:07
schestowitz> When's the next techbytes?Aug 16 20:07
schestowitzTim was amazingly busy at work. He's back now and we shall record soon. :-)Aug 16 20:07
schestowitz> Heh...I'm just full of questions today, ain't I?  :)Aug 16 20:07
schestowitzYeah, been a quiet day for me. Mate invited me to the gym (circuit class), but I declined cause I need to do some coding. :/Aug 16 20:08
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/08/15/gaddafi-fires-the-first-scud/Aug 16 20:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: Gaddafi Fires the First SCUD at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 33.91 KBAug 16 20:30
schestowitzSatire or troll? https://twitter.com/The_Jules_W/status/103561287346298881Aug 16 21:38
TechrightsSocial@The_Jules_W: @schestowitz Say what. Say what again. I dare ya, i double dare ya mother fucker.Aug 16 21:38
qu1j0t3i don't know. i think he typo's SAY "THAT".Aug 16 21:40
qu1j0t3schestowitz: so the way to find out is to say whatever you said, again.Aug 16 21:40
qu1j0t3schestowitz: oh, it's satire. based on pulp fiction.Aug 16 21:41
qu1j0t3schestowitz: ignore :DAug 16 21:41
schestowitzyes, but some people would not get itAug 16 23:13
qu1j0t3i'm sure a lot of people get into fights with those botsAug 16 23:14
qu1j0t3RedScareBotAug 16 23:14
schestowitzyeah, we have one in identicaAug 16 23:17
schestowitzThe trolls in usenet have a new strategyAug 16 23:20
schestowitzNot so new..Aug 16 23:20
schestowitz4 years ago the troll tried this trick pretending to be female.Aug 16 23:20
schestowitzTrying to divide groupsAug 16 23:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/103569408592580610Aug 16 23:34
TechrightsSocial@wikileaks: Julian Assange--Cat Hater? Human Rights Lawyer who was there http://t.co/YIqlIQZ vs. NYT: http://t.co/QoMfpHXAug 16 23:34
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qu1j0t3wtfAug 16 23:36
qu1j0t3NYT?Aug 16 23:36
qu1j0t3I guess they've given up on RAPISTAug 16 23:36
qu1j0t3ENEMY OF THE STATEAug 16 23:36
qu1j0t3what next? ASSANGE-ARSONIST & LOOTER?Aug 16 23:36
qu1j0t3"Informant links Julian Assange to cause of London riots"Aug 16 23:37
qu1j0t3"Government source blames London Riots on Wikileaks and other terrorist organisations"Aug 16 23:37
qu1j0t3"More surveillance powers needed"Aug 16 23:37
qu1j0t3"Assange a public menace, who should be detained indefinitely"Aug 16 23:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/103589501720477697Aug 16 23:38
TechrightsSocial@wikileaks: WikiLeaks Guatemala launches tomorrow! (english narrative) http://t.co/WyYeyYnAug 16 23:38
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: he smellsAug 16 23:38
schestowitzSays the NYTAug 16 23:38
schestowitzMaybe that's why there were nice to himAug 16 23:38
schestowitzGetting closerAug 16 23:38
schestowitzThan publishing stuff about his smellAug 16 23:38
schestowitzSome papers want him in pop cultureAug 16 23:39
schestowitzIn others he gets trial by mediaAug 16 23:39
schestowitzLOL "trial by Murdoch"Aug 16 23:40
schestowitzJust not for Murdoch himselfAug 16 23:40
schestowitz#AbovetheLawAug 16 23:40
qu1j0t3schestowitz: oh, he smells? like RMS allegedly doesAug 16 23:40
qu1j0t3"Look! he has long hair! I bet he smells, like all communists."Aug 16 23:41
qu1j0t3Murdoch smells of Money.Aug 16 23:41
qu1j0t3The best smell of all!Aug 16 23:41
qu1j0t3Not Death!Aug 16 23:41
qu1j0t3Doesn't smell of rotting babies.Aug 16 23:41
qu1j0t3or perforated wedding partiesAug 16 23:41
qu1j0t3guts leaking everywhereAug 16 23:41
qu1j0t3dying in agonyAug 16 23:41
qu1j0t3bleeding to deathAug 16 23:41
qu1j0t3drone watching from a safe distanceAug 16 23:42
*qu1j0t3 is glad he doesn't have Murdoch's karmaAug 16 23:42
qu1j0t3or maybe I doAug 16 23:42
qu1j0t3from the pastAug 16 23:42
schestowitz[23:41] <qu1j0t3> or perforated wedding partiesAug 16 23:46
schestowitzTuened to mayhem by dronesAug 16 23:46
schestowitz"it's their fault"Aug 16 23:46
schestowitz[for having a "terrorist" someone among the crowd]Aug 16 23:46
schestowitzLike those apache freaksAug 16 23:46
schestowitzIt's their faulyt for bringing kids to battleAug 16 23:46
schestowitzWhen they shoot from above the van with the kids in itAug 16 23:46
schestowitzAnd then justify it to thekmselvesAug 16 23:47
schestowitzIt's the parent's fault !!!Aug 16 23:47
schestowitzNot ours, the invaders who heroically shoot from above indiscriminatelyAug 16 23:47
qu1j0t3yeah where's the "personal responsibility"Aug 16 23:50
qu1j0t3that tripe from Cameron makes me see redAug 16 23:50
qu1j0t3"human rights" caused the riots.Aug 16 23:50
qu1j0t3yes, because people who are respected... ALWAYS RIOT.Aug 16 23:50
qu1j0t3it's the first thing you do, when the state treats you like a human being. Is you riot.Aug 16 23:51
qu1j0t3what a load of fucking toshAug 16 23:51
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's like checkpoint shootingsAug 16 23:51
qu1j0t3"They shouldn't have driven fast."Aug 16 23:51
qu1j0t3"How are we supposed to know they aren't terrorists?"Aug 16 23:52
qu1j0t3The Paranoid Defence/Aug 16 23:52
qu1j0t3"I killed them before they could kill me."Aug 16 23:52
qu1j0t3this is why ultimately Cameron is trying to wipe out the class that riotedAug 16 23:52
qu1j0t3because he knows they'll get him eventuallyAug 16 23:52
qu1j0t3it is literally a war; class war.Aug 16 23:52
qu1j0t3real blood, real deathsAug 16 23:52
qu1j0t3no coincidence that the trigger was an extra judicial murderAug 16 23:52
qu1j0t3The problem is the very existence of men with guns on the street.Aug 16 23:53
qu1j0t3i.e. police, occupation soldiers.Aug 16 23:53
qu1j0t3in the end this is the circumstance that isn't tolerableAug 16 23:53
qu1j0t3funny thing how the men with guns are the ones who murder. [freedom flotilla]Aug 16 23:54
schestowitz[23:52] <qu1j0t3> real blood, real deathsAug 16 23:56
schestowitzOnly 5 diedAug 16 23:56
schestowitzI begged to say (but held back) that it's not too badAug 16 23:56
schestowitzAnd if civil rights were not respected, the police would go into major confrontationAug 16 23:56
schestowitzAnd then there would be a war between brutal police and poor people with nothing to loseAug 16 23:56
schestowitzi.e. more deathsAug 16 23:56
schestowitzSo the idea that civil rights were bad is sillyAug 16 23:57
schestowitzAll that happened was, some windows brokeAug 16 23:57
schestowitzSome were put up in flames, but few...Aug 16 23:57

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