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schestowitzstill finding myself arguing with people who call verbal abuse "violence" and call mental issues things associated with "illness" (it ain't) Aug 18 00:37
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/SuzieBluez/status/103972438194405376?iid=am-60662501713136239361902216&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Aug 18 00:37
TechrightsSocialNot a tweet?Aug 18 00:37
schestowitz http://twitter.com/SuzieBluez/status/103972438194405376Aug 18 00:37
TechrightsSocialNot a tweet?Aug 18 00:37
schestowitzAh, private one "ahhh love this one! "Aug 18 00:38
schestowitzPart of the attempt to classify things as illness to sell 'medicine' for them, like people used to do with homosexuality tooAug 18 00:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SuzieBluez/status/103974551402188800Aug 18 00:46
TechrightsSocialNot a tweet?Aug 18 00:46
schestowitz"agreed. Everything is a syndrome or illness with the sole purpose of taking as much of your$ as possible before thedrugs kill u"Aug 18 00:46
ender_33http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5bYDhZBFLA&ob=av3eAug 18 00:47
TechrightsSocialTitle: Benny Benassi - Satisfaction       - YouTube .::. Size~: 18.79 KBAug 18 00:47
schestowitzI have this among my filesAug 18 00:49
ender_33:)Aug 18 00:49
schestowitzI never saw the clip thoughAug 18 00:54
schestowitzA lot of work is getting doneAug 18 00:55
schestowitz[Not by me, in the video...]Aug 18 00:55
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ender_33lolAug 18 00:56
schestowitzI could listen to this song on muteAug 18 00:56
sebsebsebschestowitz: ender_33  qu1j0t3  Someone gave me this video a bit earlier check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-moXUALZtwAug 18 00:56
TechrightsSocialTitle: Hitler is briefed about GNOME 3       - YouTube .::. Size~: 102.47 KBAug 18 00:56
ender_33hahahahaAug 18 00:57
ender_33both of uAug 18 00:57
sebsebsebwhat was schestowitz 's thing I just re joined hereAug 18 00:57
sebsebsebso didn't see thatAug 18 00:57
ender_33http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5bYDhZBFLA&ob=av3eAug 18 00:57
TechrightsSocialTitle: Benny Benassi - Satisfaction       - YouTube .::. Size~: 18.78 KBAug 18 00:57
ender_33<schestowitz> I could listen to this song on muteAug 18 00:58
schestowitzTHat url linked to Call on MeAug 18 00:59
schestowitzAnother erotic video disguised as video clip for musicAug 18 00:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lambdabass/status/103983350070525952Aug 18 01:34
TechrightsSocial@lambdabass: @schestowitz #aptosid doesn't have that issue, and I've had no stability problems with it.Aug 18 01:34
schestowitzgood to knowAug 18 01:34
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schestowitzhttp://imgur.com/QzsqDAug 18 08:33
TechrightsSocialTitle: My favorite bar in Portland has a late-night menu on weekends.  I guess they don't expect anyone to read the back of it. - Imgur .::. Size~: 10.19 KBAug 18 08:33
schestowitz> Hi,Aug 18 08:37
schestowitz> Aug 18 08:37
schestowitz> First... you asked me to call, but I forgot to ask for a number to call????Aug 18 08:37
schestowitz> Aug 18 08:37
schestowitz> You requested a list of my patents.  A list of patents issued in my name was compiled by Mark Webbink and emailed to you earlier today, and he kindly sent me a copy too.  It is below.Aug 18 08:37
schestowitz> Aug 18 08:37
schestowitz> You also inquired which patents I am contemplating offering OIN.Aug 18 08:37
schestowitz> Aug 18 08:37
schestowitz> I would be willing to hand-off my entire portfolio to the Open Source Community, however at this precise moment, I am only looking to transfer US No. 7,979,787 which issued just last month on July 12th.  My reason is, as I stated to Mark Webbink: because RPX has expressed interest in acquiring this patent and therefore I am faced with a difficult choice in my immediate future of letting this patent fall into the hands of anAug 18 08:38
schestowitzentity with unclear intentions.  They tell me they are interested in making the acquisition for defensive purposes but I cannot tell if that is the truth, or whether they are in fact acting as a broker for Microsoft or Apple, or some other. (They also want USP 7,089.487 andAug 18 08:38
schestowitz> USP 6,678,864 + a Continuation Application)Aug 18 08:38
schestowitz> Aug 18 08:38
schestowitz> Attached to this email is a claim chart prepared by a friend at Foley & Lardner.  You can see from the claim chart how US No. 7,979,787 covers all mobile smartphones and tablets.Aug 18 08:38
schestowitz> Aug 18 08:38
schestowitz> Also, I am in the process of methodically documenting for Mark Webbink the story behind how Apple plagiarized my work to create the iPhone & iPad, and then perpetrated massive fraud centering on it.  The story is very damning but it is also independent of the patent, so therefore, even if I do indeed hand over the patent to RPX, there is still a weapon for the Linux & Open Source Community to use against them.  However, theAug 18 08:38
schestowitzability to use the patent offensively against Apple & Microsoft and other enemies of Open Source will have been forfeit. (And handing over Continuations to entities with uncertain goals is all the more troubling) That was my reason for unease and panic over what I am about to do.Aug 18 08:38
schestowitz> Aug 18 08:38
schestowitz> Aug 18 08:38
schestowitz> 1    7,979,787         Method and apparatus for linking designated portions of a received document image with an electronic address Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 2    7,089,487         Method and apparatus for linking designated portions of a received document image with an electronic address Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 3    7,016,084         Method and apparatus for linking designated portions of a received document image with an electronic address Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 4    6,775,557         Telephone method and apparatus Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 5    6,678,864         Method and apparatus for linking designated portions of a received document image with an electronic address Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 6    6,445,468         Method and apparatus for linking designated portions of a received document image with an electronic address Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 7    5,903,407         Tape recording method and apparatus Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 8    5,838,458         Method and apparatus for linking designated portions of a received document image with an electronic address Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 9    5,655,164         Still film sound photography method and apparatus Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 10    5,636,078         Tape recording method and apparatus Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 11    5,495,581         Method and apparatus for linking a document with associated reference information using pattern matching Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 12    5,454,067         Method and apparatus for converting a conventional copier into an electronic printer Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 13    5,454,066         Method and apparatus for converting a conventional copier into an electronic printer Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 14    5,255,054         Method and apparatus for converting a conventional copier into an electronic printer Aug 18 08:38
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schestowitz> 15    5,164,768         Method and apparatus for converting a conventional copier into an electronic printerAug 18 08:38
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schestowitzhttp://freshmeat.net/projects/othellomasterAug 18 09:27
TechrightsSocialTitle: Othello Master | freshmeat.net .::. Size~: 17.98 KBAug 18 09:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/104139261833523202Aug 18 12:30
TechrightsSocial@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz would love to republish Apple story in Muckwatch...did you read the ones about Apple HQ and Murdoch? http://t.co/k6dbV6XAug 18 12:31
TechrightsSocial@: Aug 18 12:31
schestowitz"yes, go for it. Any time.."Aug 18 12:31
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schestowitzhmm... Aug 18 13:48
schestowitzidentica is indeed losing some polleAug 18 13:48
schestowitzparly due to Google nowAug 18 13:48
schestowitzpartlyAug 18 13:48
schestowitz> I received an email from you after connecting with you on LinkedIN, IAug 18 13:48
schestowitz> left identi.ca <http://identi.ca> in favour of Google+ (jjj).Aug 18 13:48
TechrightsSocialError processing the URLAug 18 13:48
schestowitz> Aug 18 13:48
schestowitz> So I thought i'd send you an email to let you know that the jjj on LinkedIN is actually Aug 18 13:48
schestowitz from identica.Aug 18 13:48
schestowitz> Aug 18 13:48
schestowitz> I couldn't find you on Google+, but I wish you were there, I miss yourAug 18 13:48
schestowitz> posts from identi.ca <http://identi.ca> :)Aug 18 13:48
TechrightsSocialError processing the URLAug 18 13:48
schestowitzHi there,Aug 18 13:48
schestowitzI'm very much tempted to join Google+, but I promised not to and I also wrote about the negative impacts of it. Sorry to see you departing from identi.ca...Aug 18 13:48
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/104214098039939072?iid=am-193306946213136815519837396&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Aug 18 16:42
TechrightsSocial@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz I disagree strenuously. Chemical and hormonal imbalances are most certainly mental illness.Aug 18 16:42
schestowitzBut then these are chemical balance-relates illnesses, which don't relate to the brain directlyAug 18 16:43
qu1j0t3hmmmmmmmmmmAug 18 16:44
qu1j0t3schestowitz: i've seen hormonal problems that manifest in ways impossible to distinguish from mental illness.Aug 18 16:44
qu1j0t3schestowitz: (at least to a layperson)Aug 18 16:44
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: Damn or fear it, the truth is that it’s an insurrection Aug 18 16:49
schestowitzby PilgerAug 18 16:49
schestowitzhttp://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2011/08/pilger-police-british-youngAug 18 16:49
TechrightsSocialTitle: New Statesman - Damn or fear it, the truth is that  it’s an insurrection .::. Size~: 48.36 KBAug 18 16:49
schestowitz"Following days of rioting in London, British Prime Minister David Cameron proposed looking at "whether it would be right to stop people communicating via these websites and services when we know they are plotting violence, disorder and criminality" and noted that he had "asked the police if they need any other new powers", going on to suggest that Twitter, Facebook, and BlackBerry ought to consider removing messages that Aug 18 16:49
schestowitzmight spur further unrest in the country."Aug 18 16:49
schestowitzhttp://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/08/20118179742115255.htmlAug 18 16:49
TechrightsSocialTitle: Democracies learn from Mubarak's example - Opinion - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 112.2 KBAug 18 16:49
schestowitz" the banks and the super-rich have trashed the British economy and the lives of millions." -- PilgerAug 18 16:49
schestowitzqu1j0t3: but what is a /mental/ illness?Aug 18 16:50
schestowitzBacteria in the neurons?Aug 18 16:50
qu1j0t3schestowitz: Conservatism :)Aug 18 16:50
qu1j0t3good links thanksAug 18 16:51
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/104218718845943808?iid=am-86526363013136826536359821&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Aug 18 17:12
TechrightsSocial@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz Sure they do; they affect brain function. Everything is connected.Aug 18 17:12
schestowitzBehaviour is the side effectAug 18 17:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/104221550533812224Aug 18 17:13
TechrightsSocial@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz special screws are usually used to stop the average user from saving a whole bunch of money by upgrading it themselves!Aug 18 17:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/104222060598931457Aug 18 17:13
TechrightsSocial@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz http://t.co/r6J8ItQAug 18 17:13
TechrightsSocial@: Aug 18 17:14
qu1j0t3schestowitz: right, but as I say, it can be very hard to see the root causeAug 18 17:16
qu1j0t3schestowitz: one could also consider PMS in this regardAug 18 17:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/104225193081323520Aug 18 17:43
TechrightsSocial@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz Perhaps in the abstract. In the real world behaviour is how we live our lives and the way humans communicate.Aug 18 17:43
schestowitzqu1j0t3: that's physicalAug 18 17:43
schestowitzAnd the illness is not from the mindAug 18 17:43
qu1j0t3schestowitz: right, but how would you tell, if they manifest the same way.Aug 18 17:44
schestowitzMaybe the liver, even the testicles that hormones can come from. the point is, to say there is a mental "illness" to me is like saying that love is in the heartAug 18 17:44
qu1j0t3schestowitz: for example, paranoia... your first step would be to see a mental health professional, not an endocrinologist.Aug 18 17:44
schestowitzmaybe I'm being pedanticAug 18 17:45
qu1j0t3schestowitz: you're talking a posteriori, knowing all the facts.Aug 18 17:45
schestowitzLike Dawkins is with people who say "Muslim child" and not "a child of Muslim patents"Aug 18 17:45
qu1j0t3schestowitz: which is a bit unfair because most *actually mental* illness will go undiagnosed, let alone  hormonal onesAug 18 17:45
schestowitzLike he's born with a religion tattooedAug 18 17:45
qu1j0t3lolAug 18 17:45
qu1j0t3schestowitz: that's the intention [ circumcision ]Aug 18 17:45
schestowitzparanoia is not an illness thoughAug 18 17:45
qu1j0t3schestowitz: indelible tribal markerAug 18 17:46
schestowitzYou would not give antibiotics for itAug 18 17:46
qu1j0t3schestowitz: circumcision and tattooing are the same thing exactly.Aug 18 17:46
qu1j0t3schestowitz: same purposeAug 18 17:46
qu1j0t3schestowitz: and same uselessnessAug 18 17:46
schestowitzyeahAug 18 17:47
schestowitzBut..Aug 18 17:47
schestowitzButt...Aug 18 17:47
schestowitzBut..Aug 18 17:47
schestowitzTattooed can be removedAug 18 17:47
schestowitzThey are an addictive markerAug 18 17:47
schestowitzadditiveAug 18 17:47
qu1j0t3hehAug 18 17:48
qu1j0t3circumcision can be corrected with a similar level of difficulty.Aug 18 17:48
qu1j0t3schestowitz: that's not the point.Aug 18 17:48
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the purpose and meaning are the same.Aug 18 17:48
qu1j0t3schestowitz: tribalism. religion == gang.Aug 18 17:48
qu1j0t3schestowitz: also cicatricesAug 18 17:48
schestowitzyeahAug 18 17:50
schestowitzIt would be interested if a grown kid was to sue those who conspired to multilateAug 18 17:50
schestowitzYoung girls in Africa tooAug 18 17:50
schestowitzSuing whoever did it, maybe class actionAug 18 17:50
schestowitzJust to test the court systemAug 18 17:50
schestowitzBecause what's worse than them doing it is playing apologists for barbaric practicesAug 18 17:51
qu1j0t3yesAug 18 17:53
qu1j0t3but society in general isn't prepared to see it for what it is, yetAug 18 17:53
qu1j0t3like so many things :)Aug 18 17:53
qu1j0t3for example, greed is currently a virtue, not a sinAug 18 17:53
qu1j0t3to advocate sharing is to attract abuseAug 18 17:53
qu1j0t3schestowitz: question circumcision and you will be likened to Hitler -- although the practice itself is pure barbarismAug 18 17:54
qu1j0t3schestowitz: just more of these ironies, inversionsAug 18 17:54
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the penalty for even a non-practicing jew to skip circumcising a baby is ostracism and vituperationAug 18 17:55
qu1j0t3schestowitz: i saw this with a friendAug 18 17:55
qu1j0t3schestowitz: you would become a non-person if you skip the mutilation stepAug 18 17:55
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it is a stronger commandment than any otherAug 18 17:55
qu1j0t3schestowitz: to mark the childrenAug 18 17:55
qu1j0t3schestowitz: but in general people don't look at this clearlyAug 18 17:57
qu1j0t3schestowitz: like they have trouble defining drone attacks as totalitarian murderAug 18 17:57
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the Fog of MediaAug 18 17:58
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/08/18/unable-to-stop-gates-lobbyists/Aug 18 18:04
TechrightsSocialTitle: Seattle Teachers Complain About Gates Foundation Lobbyists | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.14 KBAug 18 18:04
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/08/18/seattle-times-gates-funding/Aug 18 18:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: Seattle Times Funded by the Gates Foundation to Praise the Gates Foundation | Techrights .::. Size~: 86 KBAug 18 18:05
schestowitzhttp://blogs.csoonline.com/1623/anton_chuvakin_to_gartnerAug 18 18:23
TechrightsSocialTitle: Anton Chuvakin to Gartner .::. Size~: 51.09 KBAug 18 18:23
schestowitzIt's like joining GSAug 18 18:23
schestowitzqu1j0t3: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/faster-forward/post/google-microsoft-continue-patent-slapfight/2011/08/05/gIQAEJCDwI_blog.html" title="Google, Microsoft continue patent slapfight"></a>Aug 18 18:36
TechrightsSocialTitle: Google, Microsoft continue patent slapfight - Faster Forward - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 108.88 KBAug 18 18:37
schestowitzprobably to let corporations control public dataAug 18 18:37
schestowitzhttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-i-beat-my-facebook-stalker-2011-08-08Aug 18 18:39
TechrightsSocialTitle: How I beat my Facebook stalker - Jon Friedman's Media Web - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 106.67 KBAug 18 18:39
qu1j0t3Facebook is stalking MEAug 18 18:56
schestowitzIn Soviet, Russia, stalkers are stalked by innocent peopleAug 18 19:08
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schestowitzHm... over a million hits on the apache side at techrights since sundayAug 18 20:48
schestowitzAnd it's not even a busy news weekAug 18 20:48
schestowitzSeems like more and more people read us via RSSAug 18 20:48
schestowitzAbout 20k requests for RSS per dayAug 18 20:48
qu1j0t3not bad.Aug 18 20:48
qu1j0t3though... most of those are scripted repeatsAug 18 20:49
qu1j0t3can you break it down to unique users ...Aug 18 20:49
qu1j0t3we have an aggregator product at work, i just added your rss to my test feeds :)Aug 18 20:51
schestowitzhttp://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2011/2/25/4757812.htmlAug 18 20:54
TechrightsSocialTitle: Gates Keepers :: One of the Gates Foundation chairs was right all along .::. Size~: 19.09 KBAug 18 20:54
schestowitz"Bill says he was right all along about the long time line on development of an HIV vaccine. He claims to be prescient even if he is not scientific."Aug 18 20:54
schestowitz"Bill thinks he is organising scientists!"Aug 18 20:54
schestowitzYes!Aug 18 20:54
schestowitzqu1j0t3: thanks for adding techrights to your feedAug 18 20:55
schestowitzMaybe you can also test my personal blog :-)Aug 18 20:55
schestowitzJust posted this one 15 minutes ago  http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/08/18/freedom-in-the-uk/Aug 18 20:55
TechrightsSocialTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Is It Now a Crime to be Poor? .::. Size~: 34.97 KBAug 18 20:55
schestowitzYou will like it, I thinkAug 18 20:55
qu1j0t3schestowitz: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/08/09/america_crime_povertyAug 18 20:57
TechrightsSocialTitle: How America turned poverty into a crime - War Room - Salon.com .::. Size~: 85.41 KBAug 18 20:57
schestowitzGates funds at it again, and caught https://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/2803/Aug 18 20:59
schestowitzhttps://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2011/02/27/%e2%80%9cfear-of-reprisal%e2%80%9d-%e2%80%93-the-poisonous-culture-in-the-seattle-school-district-under-supt-goodloe-johnson/Aug 18 20:59
schestowitzhttps://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2011/02/26/my-letter-to-the-seattle-school-board-about-superintendent-goodloe-johnson/Aug 18 20:59
TechrightsSocialTitle: Ten + Reasons Why the Seattle Public Schools Superintendent, Dr. Marie Goodloe-Johnson, Should Be Fired With Cause | Seattle Education .::. Size~: 411.14 KBAug 18 21:00
schestowitzhttps://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/the-end-of-of-the-road-for-seattle-school-supt-goodloe-johnson-fraud-scandal-rocks-seattles-schools-many-call-for-superintendent-to-be-fired/Aug 18 21:00
TechrightsSocialTitle: “Fear of Reprisal” – the Poisonous Culture in the Seattle School District under Supt. Goodloe-Johnson | Seattle Education .::. Size~: 402.32 KBAug 18 21:00
TechrightsSocialTitle: My Letter to the Seattle School Board about Superintendent Goodloe-Johnson | Seattle Education .::. Size~: 387.7 KBAug 18 21:00
TechrightsSocialTitle: The End of the road for Seattle School Supt. Goodloe-Johnson? Fraud Scandal Rocks Seattle’s School District; Many call for Superintendent to be Fired | Seattle Education .::. Size~: 421.94 KBAug 18 21:00
schestowitzNice people, eh?Aug 18 21:06
schestowitzso qu1j0t3 - what do you think of the blog post in my site?Aug 18 21:06
qu1j0t3I didn't read it yet. Will look this evening.Aug 18 21:24
qu1j0t3schestowitz: Michelle Rhee is another one of the Reform bad guys.Aug 18 21:25
qu1j0t3schestowitz: keep an eye out for her name. already caught in cheating scandalsAug 18 21:25
qu1j0t3schestowitz: ...the ever-present companion of "standardised testing"Aug 18 21:25
schestowitzI don't do US politics about peopleAug 18 21:26
schestowitzI'm not battling for left and rightAug 18 21:26
schestowitzOr against HarperAug 18 21:26
schestowitzhe's just one partyAug 18 21:26
schestowitzAnd he's the puppet on someone else's stringAug 18 21:27
qu1j0t3I don't care about Harper as a person...Aug 18 21:28
qu1j0t3I care that people like him have power, though.Aug 18 21:29
qu1j0t3broken systemAug 18 21:29
qu1j0t3A Canadian tweeted to me a nonsensical argumentAug 18 21:29
qu1j0t3that 'voting works... we just need more people to vote'Aug 18 21:29
qu1j0t3which is self evidently falseAug 18 21:29
qu1j0t3voter turnout is highest in the broken electionsAug 18 21:29
qu1j0t3US 2008, Harper, FordAug 18 21:29
qu1j0t3so one has to look for another causeAug 18 21:30
schestowitzof course...Aug 18 21:31
schestowitzVoting, petitions, protests hardly workAug 18 21:31
schestowitzThey're like little ceremonies to let people feel like they have powerAug 18 21:31
schestowitzIf they become oeffective they get crushedAug 18 21:31
schestowitzLike results of elections overruledAug 18 21:32
schestowitzFakesAug 18 21:32
schestowitzFakedAug 18 21:32
schestowitzGood protests killedAug 18 21:32
schestowitzIf they succeedAug 18 21:32
schestowitzAnd petitions are names on paper, no commitment to these..Aug 18 21:32
schestowitzEmbargoes might be beterAug 18 21:32
schestowitzbetterAug 18 21:32
schestowitzmore effective anywayAug 18 21:32
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yes. and our generation was raised believing in 'democracy' and 'elections' Aug 18 21:42
qu1j0t3there is a lot of propaganda about the 'importance of your vote'Aug 18 21:42
qu1j0t3all pushing people away from the truthAug 18 21:42
qu1j0t3a misdirective smokescreenAug 18 21:42
qu1j0t3'don't look for the man behind the curtain'Aug 18 21:42
qu1j0t3the idea that 'more people voting' will work better is patently ridiculousAug 18 21:43
qu1j0t3it only distracts from the truth, that the same body has arms up both puppetsAug 18 21:43
qu1j0t3'more people questioning': now that could work.Aug 18 21:43
schestowitz[21:42] <qu1j0t3> there is a lot of propaganda about the 'importance of your vote'Aug 18 21:52
schestowitzVote<->democracyAug 18 21:52
schestowitzit's the same misconception promoted in Iran for exampleAug 18 21:53
schestowitzno election => no democracyAug 18 21:53
schestowitzOrAug 18 21:53
schestowitzIf we invade Irawq and let them vote,m hen spreadDemocracy();="success"Aug 18 21:53
schestowitz <qu1j0t3> 'more people questioning': now that could work.Aug 18 21:54
schestowitzyeahAug 18 21:54
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qu1j0t3:)Aug 18 21:59
ender_2600http://youtu.be/OrjWALYlH0AAug 18 21:59
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bill Hicks Puppet Show - "Politics in America"       - YouTube .::. Size~: 89.58 KBAug 18 21:59
qu1j0t3schestowitz: i like the TR mission: 'mainly by informing'Aug 18 21:59
schestowitzthanksAug 18 22:02
schestowitzBTWAug 18 22:02
schestowitzDid you read my short post?Aug 18 22:02
schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/08/18/freedom-in-the-uk/Aug 18 22:03
TechrightsSocialTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Is It Now a Crime to be Poor? .::. Size~: 34.97 KBAug 18 22:03
schestowitzWe might be starting a flyers campaign this weekendAug 18 22:03
schestowitzMeeting tomorrow to agree on content and strategyAug 18 22:03
schestowitzTo inform without scaring away suspected members of the public who believe Murdoch's SkyAug 18 22:03
schestowitzTurns out, my friend said, that Skym deliberately brought peopel to thr streetsAug 18 22:04
schestowitzInciting with claims that the shot man did not carry a gun or was not shotAug 18 22:04
schestowitzWhich would, as they ought to know, incite more peopleAug 18 22:04
schestowitzMurdoch likes what's going onAug 18 22:04
schestowitz2 weeks ago this rich bastard was enemy #1Aug 18 22:04
schestowitzNow the poor people are enemy #1Aug 18 22:05
schestowitzAnd people forgot all about his crimesAug 18 22:05
ender_2600schestowitz +1Aug 18 22:05
ender_2600I like the articleAug 18 22:05
ender_2600I like how you mention the ReichstagAug 18 22:05
schestowitzender_2600: thanks, appreciatedAug 18 22:05
ender_2600no prob, im not all negativeAug 18 22:06
schestowitzI knowAug 18 22:06
ender_2600I dont mean to be overly critical either - constructive criticismAug 18 22:06
schestowitznpAug 18 22:06
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