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schestowitz"Don't be too worried about the libel. People can see what's lies and what's not. The attacks on you confirm to people that you're effective."Aug 22 08:24
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/81328611Aug 22 18:04
schestowitzhmm..,. works nowAug 22 18:04
TechrightsSocial@Kuro Sawai (kuro)'s status on Monday, 22-Aug-11 08:48:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz your puppylinux posting URL gave an error message 403 (access forbidden) - do you have any clue why? - wasn't it just a review?Aug 22 18:04
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schestowitzhmmm... reusing code...Aug 22 19:37
schestowitz"I have a quick question. Do you have pointers to or code that for each point on the GMDS'd surface plots a gray level or red level that is equal to the sum of its distortion from the rest of the points? I also have been looking for geodesic_circle..."Aug 22 19:37
schestowitzI sort of left the cyrus project aside for nowAug 22 19:37
schestowitzI have resent the query regarding file permission to the server's admin (for more GMDS code) and have asked a collague for a pointer so as to prevent rewriting of code which already exists.Aug 22 20:21
schestowitz*colleagueAug 22 20:21
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schestowitzJust read up on these issues....Aug 22 22:32
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_microtomographyAug 22 22:32
TechrightsSocialTitle: X-ray microtomography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 51.08 KBAug 22 22:32
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRI#MRI_versus_CTAug 22 22:32
TechrightsSocialTitle: Magnetic resonance imaging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 250.39 KBAug 22 22:32
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_computed_tomography#Adverse_effectsAug 22 22:32
TechrightsSocialTitle: X-ray computed tomography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 156.92 KBAug 22 22:32
schestowitzI wonder why MRI is still not the favoured modality and I guess that contrast in tissue is one of the advantages of x-ray. Here at the airport everyone now has to get full-body x-ray scan. I always wonder how they set the intensity, but exposure time is 7 seconds flat.Aug 22 22:34
MinceRbecause it's expensive? :>Aug 22 22:34
MinceRWP also says MRI is more likely to suffer from motion artifactsAug 22 22:35
schestowitztrueAug 22 22:36
schestowitzBut is can get many images per secondAug 22 22:36
schestowitzLike heartbeats in motionAug 22 22:36
schestowitzI just wodner...Aug 22 22:37
MinceRas for airport scans, i suspect they crank up the intensity until they find the image easy to interpretAug 22 22:37
schestowitzWhy does GE insist on CT?Aug 22 22:37
MinceRi suspect it's for historical reasonsAug 22 22:37
schestowitzI mean, it's the same Edison troll company which told us Fukushima was safe..Aug 22 22:37
schestowitzUsing nuclear stuff a lotAug 22 22:37
schestowitzMinceR: I suspect so tooAug 22 22:37
schestowitzI think MRI is expensive also because getting magnets that size is hardAug 22 22:37
MinceRsounds reasonableAug 22 22:38
schestowitzThat's what I was told anywayAug 22 22:38
schestowitzMinceR: in the airport, perhaps some pessengers can save them the trouble and get nakedAug 22 22:38
MinceRalso, afaik MRI gets very dangerous if you have metal objects in youAug 22 22:38
schestowitzIn some changing room-like chamberAug 22 22:38
MinceRor on your personAug 22 22:38
schestowitzTo avoid x-ray altogetherAug 22 22:38
schestowitzMinceR: yes, but they check carefully what enters the roomAug 22 22:39
schestowitzAnd ask if you have metals in your bodyAug 22 22:39
schestowitzand you fill out formsAug 22 22:39
schestowitzI got MRI doneon my twice for my mate's experimentsAug 22 22:39
MinceRwhat if the terrorists just claim they have pacemakers?Aug 22 22:39
schestowitz*done on meAug 22 22:40
schestowitzMinceR: give them xrayAug 22 22:40
schestowitzthat's what it's forAug 22 22:40
schestowitza legacy contingencyAug 22 22:40
MinceRicAug 22 22:40
schestowitzthe US has more options than usAug 22 22:41
schestowitzAs much as we ridicule the TSAAug 22 22:41
MinceRmaybe they'll come up with MRI eventually so they can sell those tooAug 22 22:41
schestowitzNobody here talks about the fascism at Manchester AirporAug 22 22:41
schestowitzWhat next? Give us your shoes and enter the 'showers'?Aug 22 22:41
MinceR:>Aug 22 22:41
MinceRwhat's going on at Manchester Airport?Aug 22 22:41
schestowitzobligatory x-rayAug 22 22:42
schestowitzand if yuou move they do it againAug 22 22:42
MinceRbackscatter?Aug 22 22:42
schestowitzyesAug 22 22:42
MinceRso there's no manual alternative there, like in the US?Aug 22 22:42
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter_X-rayAug 22 22:43
TechrightsSocialTitle: Backscatter X-ray - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 141.21 KBAug 22 22:43
schestowitzMinceR: no, I asked twiceAug 22 22:43
MinceRicAug 22 22:43
schestowitzBefore they had it done on meAug 22 22:43
schestowitzI asked different people, tooAug 22 22:44
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Backscatter_large.jpgAug 22 22:44
TechrightsSocialTitle: File:Backscatter large.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 23.69 KBAug 22 22:44
schestowitzThey ask you to raise your hands like this, like "Officer, I swear, me did nuthin'Aug 22 22:44
MinceRi wonder if the distortion of the face is characteristic of the entire scan or it's to make the image somewhat anonymizedAug 22 22:45
schestowitzthen the guy presses a buttonAug 22 22:45
schestowitzAnd it irradiates youAug 22 22:45
MinceRif it's the former, what makes them think they'll find hidden items? :>Aug 22 22:45
schestowitzMinceR: they only care about your junkAug 22 22:45
schestowitzNotyour faceAug 22 22:45
MinceR:>Aug 22 22:45
schestowitzLater they grin at youAug 22 22:45
schestowitzThey see it in full colourAug 22 22:45
schestowitzI reckon Manc Airport is the key experiment that phases it inAug 22 22:46
schestowitzThe US does stagd introductionAug 22 22:46
schestowitzMaybe they too will have it in all aiports to make the makers of it (with connection in government, for rigged contracts) rich(Er)Aug 22 22:47
schestowitzAnd..Aug 22 22:47
schestowitzThen the US will sell it to US-wannabes likew OrbanAug 22 22:47
schestowitzSo the point is, air travel is universalAug 22 22:47
MinceRi'm not sure if there will be interest for it hereAug 22 22:47
schestowitzGet ready for this to become standard, if the fascist x-ray zealots deceive enough politiciansAug 22 22:47
MinceRit also depends on how long until nobody except his flunkies can afford to fly at all and yet stays in the countryAug 22 22:48
schestowitzAll this to 'save' us from another udnerwar 'bomber'Aug 22 22:48
schestowitzWhose death toll is....Aug 22 22:48
schestowitz0Aug 22 22:48
schestowitzzilchAug 22 22:48
schestowitzHow many will die fromt he x-rayAug 22 22:48
schestowitzLike dozens of airplanes crashingAug 22 22:48
schestowitz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_computed_tomography#Adverse_effectsAug 22 22:48
TechrightsSocialTitle: X-ray computed tomography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 156.92 KBAug 22 22:48
schestowitzThere's a recent studyAug 22 22:49
schestowitzSays tens of thousands die every yearAug 22 22:49
schestowitzIt does make you wonder how many lives it saves that MRI could not help save insteadAug 22 22:49
schestowitzthw whole industry is riggedAug 22 22:51
schestowitzEveryone should be upsetAug 22 22:51
schestowitzAnd saving life is BS to them, they justw antn to sell more machines, making them cheaply and selling some lousy backscatter machine for $0.5-2ml apieceAug 22 22:52
schestowitzit's about sales, no securityAug 22 22:52
schestowitzI say, the lobbyists who push these machines should make their case by going into one of these machines for a month with some food and waterAug 22 22:53
schestowitzThen came out and say, "see? Nothing harmful."Aug 22 22:53
schestowitzThen I don't think we'll have many lobbyists like these anymoreAug 22 22:53
schestowitzWell, at least not those who did lobby if you know what I mean...Aug 22 22:53
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