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schestowitz> Counting Linux users on the web is like counting rats in the sewer.Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> The very notion is absurd, for the following reasons.Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> 1 - Linux users share DHCP IP addresses with Windows users.Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> Windows users and Linux users have two ways to get access to the Internet. Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> They can go to a service, such as a dial-up provider or cellular carrier whereAug 28 08:44
schestowitz> they will get a DHCP address.Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> 2 - Linux users share NAT IP addresses with Windows users.Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> Because there aren't enough IPv4 addresses for everybody to have a dedicate IPAug 28 08:44
schestowitz> address, many companies create a private network, and then provide a NATAug 28 08:44
schestowitz> gateway to the public internet.  For example, your cable company or cellularAug 28 08:44
schestowitz> carrier might give you one IP address on their private network, but theAug 28 08:44
schestowitz> Network Address Translation (NAT) router routes all that traffic through oneAug 28 08:44
schestowitz> IP address.Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> 3 - How do you apportion the shared addresses?Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> This is often a political, rather than a technical, decision.Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> Microsoft has a nice big army of lawyers and requires that you get priorAug 28 08:44
schestowitz> written approval before publishing benchmarks of any kind involving Windows,Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> including usage statistics.Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> Linux is managed by a non-profit organization and encourages any publicationsAug 28 08:44
schestowitz> of any benchmarks and places no restrictions on such benchmarks.  In fact,Aug 28 08:44
schestowitz> Linus, who owns the Linux trademark as well as the copyright to the core LinuxAug 28 08:44
schestowitz> kernel, doesn't even require that Linux licensees display the Linux trademarkAug 28 08:44
schestowitz> in any meaningful way.  The only requirement is that the licensee provide aAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> link on a web page that shows where they can download the Linux source code. Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> That page doesn't even need to be easy to find.Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> As a result, if Microsoft insists that any benchmark based on browserAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> statistics count any IP address used by both Linux and Windows as ONLY aAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Windows address, refusing to do so would mean being hassled by lawyers andAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> possibly even losing the rights to all corporate Windows and Microsoft OfficeAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> licenses.  Accepting these terms means that you only had to deal withAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> push-back from COLA advocates.Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> On the other hand, Microsoft would very legitimately balk if a survey saw bothAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Linux and Windows users on the same IP address and assumed "one of each". Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> This would result in Windows being under-counted.Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> On the other hand, if you assume that ONLY IP addresses that use LinuxAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> EXCLUSIVELY for extended periods of time, such as a week or a month, then it'sAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> quite likely that Linux would be very under-counted and Windows would beAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> over-counted.Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Unfortunately, these are the types of statistics that are published as freelyAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> available statistics such as StatMarket.  At one time, they published theirAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> methodology and this was an obvious flaw.Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> If being counted requires the ability to support front-page, IE6 JavaScript,Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> VBScript, or ActiveX controls, the numbers skew even further in favor ofAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Windows.  For Linux to support these features, additional software such asAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> CrossOver would need to be purchased and configured.Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> A more accurate count can be achieved by having users log-in and giving them aAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> cookie for each device/system they use to connect.  This way, you have aAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> unique cookie for each OS/User combination.  But this highlights anotherAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> trend.Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> According to the CEO of Linspire, when he tried to gather such statistics, heAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> found that only about 7% of all Linux users used Linux exclusively.  MostAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Linux users still had the option of using Windows when it was needed.  ThereAug 28 08:45
schestowitz> are many ways that Linux users can get Linux and Windows.Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:45
schestowitz> Dual-Boot - each time the machine starts, they can choose their system.Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Live-DVD - boot with the DVD into Linux - easiest way to get a "taste" andAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> also useful for maintenance and support.Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Live-USB - boot with a USB memory stick or drive - a nice way to take yourAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> computer with you, without having to take your computer with you.  This tacticAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> lets you boot Linux on almost any computer - so that you don't have to takeAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> your entire laptop with you to work on personal files.  It also gives you moreAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> privacy and better security.Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Virtual Linux - using virtualization software such as VMWare, VirtualBox,Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> VirtualPC, or parallels, you can run Linux as a Windows application.  YouAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> don't get the legendary Linux security, reliability, and stability, but atAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> least you get a Linux environment without having to shut down Windows. Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Unfortunately, Windows doesn't like sharing memory and other resources, soAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> performance can be a real problem, especially each time you try to switch fromAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Linux to Windows or from Windows applications to Linux.Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Virtual Windows - In this case, Linux is the "Native" operating system, andAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Windows is run as a Linux application.  Many corporations are now using thisAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> option because it makes it much easier to back-up and recovery, and it's muchAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> easier to distribute a "standard image" which can be downloaded and installedAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> with all of the correct corporate applications.  In some cases, users mightAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> not even know they are running Linux unless they notice the Linux prompts asAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> the machine is booting up.Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Remote access to Linux - in this case, the user uses his Windows PC toAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> remotely access the Linux desktop environment.  Linux supports a number ofAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> different interfaces, including VNC, X11, and Citrix style sharing.Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> Remote access to Windows - in this case, the user uses his Linux PC toAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> remotely access the Windows desktop.  The one catch is that the Linux userAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> much have a Windows license for the PC.  As a result, Linux users oftenAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> purchase a PC with Windows pre-installed, not because they want to use WindowsAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> on it, but because they want the legal rights that come with having theAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> license.  This is a really big issue for corporate users.  When MicrosoftAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> tried to claim that Windows Home edition users could not use Virtual machines,Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> or use Windows on another operating system, corporate customers rejected it,Aug 28 08:46
schestowitz> and made it clear to OEMs and Microsoft that unless that was revoked, theyAug 28 08:46
schestowitz> would stick with XP and switch to "Pure Linux".Aug 28 08:47
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:47
schestowitz> As a result, about 98% of all PCs sold by the major manufacturers are licensedAug 28 08:47
schestowitz> and shipped with Windows pre-installed, but as many as 30% of those PCs mayAug 28 08:47
schestowitz> ALSO be running Linux some portion of the time.  This is based on theAug 28 08:47
schestowitz> "User/OS" registration patters seen on sites like Google, Facebook, and AmazonAug 28 08:47
schestowitz> - all of whom have become big fans of Linux.  Google and Amazon have nowAug 28 08:47
schestowitz> started offering their own Linux based devices and Google has licensed it'sAug 28 08:47
schestowitz> software to others.  Facebook has also been very aggressive about supportingAug 28 08:47
schestowitz> Linux desktop users.Aug 28 08:47
schestowitz> Let's just bottom line this, shall we?Aug 28 08:49
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:49
schestowitz> By the time Linux came out, Microsoft already had close to a monopoly on theAug 28 08:49
schestowitz> PC operating system market.  By 1993, Microsoft's Windows 3.1 and MicrosoftAug 28 08:49
schestowitz> Office were being pre-installed on practically every compund ter.  Jobs wasAug 28 08:49
schestowitz> gone, Apple was stagnant, and IBM's OS/2 2.0 was way behind schedule andAug 28 08:49
schestowitz> riddled with bugs.Aug 28 08:49
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:49
schestowitz> By 1993, Microsoft was spending $4 billion a year on promotional efforts, andAug 28 08:49
schestowitz> was settling the bundling case in Judge Jackson's court.  Microsoft wasAug 28 08:49
schestowitz> spending about $2 billion on lawyers, legal fees, and settlements.Aug 28 08:49
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:49
schestowitz> In 1993 and 1994, NT was still pretty much vapor-ware, and not selling veryAug 28 08:49
schestowitz> well.  Microsoft was worried about a number of competitors including SCO,Aug 28 08:49
schestowitz> Novell's UnixWare, Mark Williams Unix, Linux, BSD/386, FreeBSD, and OS/2.  SunAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> was also beginning to offer Solaris for 32 bit Intel, as well as lower pricedAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> SparcStations.Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> Windows NT had compatibility problems, users weren't used to the security,Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> they didn't understand the licenses, and thought that client licenses forAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> servers meant the right to install NT on client PCs.  Windows NT licenses wereAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> far more expensive than previous versions of MS-DOS and Windows, and most 3rdAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> party applications didn't run on NT 3.x.Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> The failure of NT 3.x was so obvious to everybody that Bill Gates announcedAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> "Chicago" - claiming that it would be "NT Lite".  Unlike NT it wasAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> multi-threaded, and multitasking was spotty and unpredictable.  It was moreAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> reliable than Windows 3.1, which was it's main saving grace.  It'sAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> competitors, both Linux and UNIX based, as well as OS/2, offered trueAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> preemptive multitasking, excellent support for multiple windows on screen, andAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> better support for Internet based applications.Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> Microsoft legitimately felt that there was a real risk that some variant ofAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> Linux or UNIX could pose a very real threat to the Windows monopoly. Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> Microsoft implemented a number of countermeasures to prevent this.  Many ofAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> these countermeasures were considered legal at the time they were implemented,Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> but later, as the practices were disclosed in court, Judges often madeAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> preliminary rulings that these activities and tactics were illegal.Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> On a number of cases, Microsoft lost in the lower courts, and had the verdictsAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> overturned on appeal.  In other cases, Microsoft was able to negotiateAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> settlements which included blanket immunity for all acts discovered, andAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> sealed the court records so that the discoveries could not be used to supportAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> other cases.Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> Some of the tactics used by Microsoft were later ruled by judges to be fraud,Aug 28 08:50
schestowitz> extortion, blackmail, sabotage, and obstruction of justice.  The preliminaryAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> rulings were reported in web and print publications, but the settlementsAug 28 08:50
schestowitz> resulted in Microsoft having the web versions of these articles purged.Aug 28 08:50
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/i8lkx.jpgAug 28 12:18
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schestowitzLOL http://i.imgur.com/QRMPp.jpgAug 28 18:43
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/jonpryor/statuses/107838385346977793Aug 28 22:06
TechrightsSocial@jonpryor: "I refuse to accept that a mono booster can come up with something faster than a glibc guy, but his code is faster" http://t.co/K7iQVj6Aug 28 22:06
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schestowitzLOLAug 28 22:06
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