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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @x11r5 @jargon We are the best colour scheme out there? | Aug 08 00:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @x11r5 @cer This has been shot in the it (and not a dookie chain fan huh, @kwanzer | Aug 08 00:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @reality Ooooh linux-3.0.1-1-x86_64 | Aug 08 00:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Beautiful sunrise over McRitchie reservoir #fb | Aug 08 00:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Bean and leek cassoulet, topped with biscuits, goes well with Pretty Things American Darling. | Aug 08 00:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] At the top of jelutong tower. #fb http://ur1.ca/4v7x5 | Aug 08 01:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Hey !Boston people, the HONK! Fest of activist street bands needs your help-- halfway there! Huzzah for !anarchy http://redd.it/jbxen | Aug 08 01:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Halfway to the goal! Please help support the Honk! Festival of activist street bands via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.69 KB | Aug 08 01:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] ASCII Flow Diagram Tool: http://www.asciiflow.com/ | Aug 08 01:54 | |
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| schestowitz | will run nightly backup now | Aug 08 02:07 |
| schestowitz | lots of posts for tomorrow | Aug 08 02:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] any artists out there? I want a picture of the !mozilla !firefox firefox using the chrome logo as a chew toy... | Aug 08 02:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rofl new spam email "from the FBI confirming that another spam is legal" sent from the Netherlands #toofunny | Aug 08 03:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 8 Ways To Circumvent the PROTECT-IP Act http://goo.gl/Er5Fv | Aug 08 03:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Big city woes: When distances that should take you 25 minutes end up taking you an hour and a half. | Aug 08 04:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Links between Al Shabaab and the Pumwani Riyadha Mosque in !Nairobi's Eastlands district. | Aug 08 05:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Eastleigh, Nairobi's Little Mogadishu, and Pumwani are home to so many Somali nationals,that happenings there've to be intertwined with .so | Aug 08 05:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Shocker! Arrived in town in record time | Aug 08 05:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] "U - N - I - T - E - D, United are the team for me, With a Nick-Nack-Paddy-Whack, Give a dog a bone, Why don't City... http://b1t.it/uJF | Aug 08 05:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The Rise and Rise of the Salary of the Singapore PM - http://ur1.ca/4v9v0 #fb | Aug 08 05:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] The best-est GIF ever !MUFC https://plus.google.com/photos/106919884270643574254/albums/5638328698400031249/5638328695752346498 | Aug 08 05:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just seen City Council cops busting ladies for boarding a mat at illegal stop. Also, parking has become a hazardous enterprise. | Aug 08 05:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Word of advice when em City cops bust you don't resist arrest. Makes em madder. | Aug 08 05:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Most of these cats are former hardened goons from the Lower Easyde. | Aug 08 05:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] On the Radicalization of Anders Behring Breivik 2tu.us/3fv5 | Aug 08 05:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] City Councillors often reward their jeshis [political militias] with jobs in the Inspectorate, so understand what you're dealing with #kanjo | Aug 08 05:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] And I know thugs in Eastlands that would make em cats in Tottenham look like choirboys picnicking on Sunday #kanjo | Aug 08 05:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good evening !identiverse | Aug 08 06:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @nj3ma i suspect that's true of most cops. They are armed and dangerous. Be careful. | Aug 08 06:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :) @marjoleink @cer | Aug 08 06:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 RT @sabwanda "freedom of the manual is complete! | Aug 08 06:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] and here i thought the temperature in Canada has been too hot lately. Glad my laptop is cooler :D | Aug 08 06:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] No bloody way @EFF: "It's Back: WIPO Broadcasting Treaty Returns From The Grave" http://ur1.ca/4ny3z via @rms !copyright #freedom #FAIL | Aug 08 06:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The #WIPO broadcasting Treaty is equivalent to giving FEDX ownership of !copyright for books they deliver http://ur1.ca/4ny3z !ACTA !cdnpoli | Aug 08 06:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] commercial influence still introduces snake-oil solutions. | Aug 08 06:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] SG Lazyweb: Has the newly elected MPs been sworn into SG parliament? I don't recall it. So also the ministers. #fb | Aug 08 06:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Haaf's Game Engine's source code released to the world! http://icculus.org/hge-unix/ used by #HumbleBundle3's #Hammerfight | Aug 08 07:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Nicely done ! "A Brief Explanation of Microsoft's Anti-Google Patent FUD" http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110805154137803 | Aug 08 07:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Monday !InconstantMoon serialization ⇒ chapter 73... http://ur1.ca/4va3m [caution: mature to Start at 1⇒ http://ur1.ca/4va3r ] | Aug 08 07:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] but i need sleep; I've more tedious format stuff to do tomorrow.... | Aug 08 07:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] nightie night !Identiverse | Aug 08 07:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oops. Amazon EC2 in Ireland has some probs ATM? http://status.aws.amazon.com/#EU_block UPDATE Fixed, see my latest comment. | Aug 08 07:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] How about closing all stock markets for - say - 96 hours? And while we are at it, return to a paper trail, stop high-fr... http://b1t.it/uKG | Aug 08 07:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] In Berlin, back from vacation and heading for Desktop Summit. Talk on free desktops for the public sector at 10:20. CU there! | Aug 08 07:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Seems clouds can cause clouds to go down ;-) http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/08/08/0056252/Lightning-Strike-KOs-A... http://b1t.it/uKQ | Aug 08 08:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUpEU Cool! RT @RoxanaLewis I just joined the @IntelAppUp Challenge. It's all about apps, contests, and… http://deck.ly/~cWO9o | Aug 08 08:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: Anyone can submit a topic for a Group Talk at #AppUpElements. Yes, that means you. Apply today!... http://intel.ly/oZ21a6 | Aug 08 08:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: The #Qt Blog - Desktop Summit 2011 the Free Desktop Invades Berlin http://ow.ly/1e8I7r | Aug 08 08:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @bobduffy: The Daily Mobile Awesome is out! http://bit.ly/gTP34Q ▸ Top stories today via @intel_jim @nicole_scooter @intelsoftware | Aug 08 08:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie RT @zchydem New blog post Developing QuickFlickr for N950 http://bit.ly/mWLO65 | Aug 08 08:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @bobduffy: Switched On: When apps meet traps http://engt.co/nkKpPf | Aug 08 08:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @WeAreTabCo: A #TabCoSneakPeek is coming your way. RT if you want more details! http://t.co/ydQsHK2 | Aug 08 08:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: #MeeGo & #Maemo Weekly News for Monday, 8 Aug 2011 out now: http://www.mwkn.net/ #n900 | Aug 08 08:24 | |
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| schestowitz | morning... | Aug 08 08:29 |
| schestowitz | Time to make some posts | Aug 08 08:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Missed Connections - http://bit.ly/nJxku1 I *do* love a bit of surrealism in the morning #xkcd | Aug 08 08:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] White House is Microsoft’s House http://ur1.ca/4vaey #mole #us #monopoly #windows #fcc #bing #wp7 | Aug 08 08:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Love and Tensor Algebra - http://bit.ly/mV99Ge nice: not come across this before #maths #poetry | Aug 08 08:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Rendering 3D with CSS and javascript with dom3d (guest post) http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/08/rendering-3d-with-css-and-javascript-with-dom3 | Aug 08 09:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US: Millions of federal court records are being destroyed to save money - http://bit.ly/nR8vWB crazy #opendata | Aug 08 09:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Friendly, vibrant. Sort of place that's going places. | Aug 08 09:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Trix, a gaming business is downstairs. | Aug 08 09:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Attachmate’s First Milestone: Sign Another Patent Deal With Microsoft, Pay Microsoft a ‘Linux Tax’ on #SUSE http://ur1.ca/4vajr #opensuse | Aug 08 09:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] White House is Microsoft’s House http://ur1.ca/4vaey #whitehouse #microsoft #entryism #cio #technology #exchange #drupal #gnu #linux #lockin | Aug 08 09:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Reminder: There won't be a Linux Outlaws live show tonight, but I'm trying to get the show we recorded last Monday out tonight for ya... | Aug 08 09:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Attachmate ’s First Milestone: Sign Another Patent Deal With Microsoft, Pay #Microsoft a ‘Linux Tax’ on SUSE http://ur1.ca/4vajr #swpats | Aug 08 09:19 | |
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| schestowitz | hi, DaemonFC | Aug 08 09:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Moves Towards Limiting Software Patenting, Germany Remains Confused About EU Patent Laws http://ur1.ca/4valv #swpats #germany #epo | Aug 08 09:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] US Moves Towards Limiting Software Patenting, Germany Remains Confused About EU Patent Laws http://ur1.ca/4valv #bilski #uspto #monopoly | Aug 08 09:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | morning | Aug 08 09:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] having demos on the tablet during the Plasma Active and Contour presentations are pure gold. so much easier to explain what you can see :) | Aug 08 09:45 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Skype-moves-to-VP8-for-all-video-calls-1318315.html | Aug 08 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | interesting | Aug 08 09:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Skype moves to VP8 for all video calls - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.35 KB | Aug 08 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | since Microsoft lies about VP8 to justify not supporting it in IE | Aug 08 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft actually has a long history of using open codecs like Vorbis to get around paying patent royalties that come with other codecs | Aug 08 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | especially in video games | Aug 08 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how they can explain using them to get around paying licensing fees themselves, then refuse to support them in their Windows software citing patent problems | Aug 08 09:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @comzeradd "EU-law on re-use of public sector data may include source code" http://ur1.ca/4upsc #opendata | Aug 08 09:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | the new https everywhere release supports thousands of sites | Aug 08 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | the beta only supported a couple dozen | Aug 08 09:58 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I have to laugh whenever Brian Cox says "geyser" with that British accent | Aug 08 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | geezer :) | Aug 08 10:04 |
| MinceR | r4wr | Aug 08 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That geezer over there must be about 10 million years old | Aug 08 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | it's rather loud every now and then | Aug 08 10:07 |
| MinceR | :D | Aug 08 10:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Myhrvold’s “Criminal Enterprise”, Detkin’s Criticism of Extortionists & Terrorists (Which He Himself Became) http://ur1.ca/4vapa #iv #swpats | Aug 08 10:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | this is odd | Aug 08 10:09 |
| MinceR | http://www.dilbert.com/2004-03-28/ | Aug 08 10:09 |
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| DaemonFC | Firefox crashes if you use kgtk-wrapper on it, but once you install your first extension, any extension, it works if you launch it with kgtk-wrapper from then on | Aug 08 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Aug 08 10:09 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: we have a mpeg-la booster right here | Aug 08 10:10 |
| schestowitz | I was about to do a post about it | Aug 08 10:10 |
| schestowitz | Ars Technica is rooting got patent trolls now | Aug 08 10:10 |
| schestowitz | s/got/for/ | Aug 08 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | have their cake and eat it too | Aug 08 10:10 |
| schestowitz | sheat? | Aug 08 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | use the codecs where they can save money, and avoid them where they want to avoid make a standard out of an open codec | Aug 08 10:11 |
| schestowitz | any examples of microsoft using ogg? | Aug 08 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | you notice they only use them in the context of proprietary software that doesn't have any useful purpose in promoting an open standard | Aug 08 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | Skype or Halo don't help VP8 or Vorbis | Aug 08 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | but they save Microsoft money | Aug 08 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | they used Vorbis in Halo | Aug 08 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | and Fable | Aug 08 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | that I know of | Aug 08 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | I know a lot of XBOX 360 games use it but they ship with their own decoder | Aug 08 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | Gears of War and Gears of War 2 both use Vorbis | Aug 08 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I believe all of the Guitar Hero games use it | Aug 08 10:13 |
| DaemonFC | because the GH3 rip of Metallica's Death Magnetic was just a dump of the Vorbis files on the disc itself | Aug 08 10:13 |
| DaemonFC | so they and their partners reap the rewards of using it | Aug 08 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | then publicly FUD it | Aug 08 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | they only want it around when it suits them | Aug 08 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | unless they're collecting patent tax off of it | Aug 08 10:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Myhrvold’s “Criminal Enterprise”, Detkin’s Criticism of Extortionists and Terrorists http://ur1.ca/4vapa see http://ur1.ca/4vapl #lodsys | Aug 08 10:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MP contacts Cabinet Office and No. 10 on future of NPfIT - http://bit.ly/oHCC11 good to see someone with a clue here | Aug 08 10:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Skype Starts Supporting WebM http://lxnews.org/2011/08/08/skype-starts-supporting-webm/ | Aug 08 10:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hrmbl. A book with 137 pages, originally published 1971 at Princeton, originally sold at US$9,50 is now around 90 EUR w... http://b1t.it/uLL | Aug 08 10:32 | |
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| schestowitz | [10:12] <DaemonFC> I know a lot of XBOX 360 games use it but they ship with their own decoder | Aug 08 10:37 |
| schestowitz | any links? | Aug 08 10:37 |
| schestowitz | I noticed that worm uses ogg | Aug 08 10:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #OSCON Round-up - http://bit.ly/oBStYe useful summary for those of us elsewhere #opensource #cloudcomputing | Aug 08 10:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Wayne Rooney is talking about MUFC giving football lessons to opponents. He must have a short memory #Barcelona | Aug 08 10:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British soldier accused of cutting fingers from dead Taliban. In Falklands a Para cut ears from dead Argentinian soldiers. #hushedup | Aug 08 10:42 | |
| DaemonFC | https://wiki.xiph.org/Games_that_use_Vorbis | Aug 08 10:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Games that use Vorbis - XiphWiki .::. Size~: 33.16 KB | Aug 08 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | little outdated | Aug 08 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | Halo: Mac and PC versions of Halo use Ogg Vorbis for all audio, it seems. The Xiph license and dynamically linked libraries of Ogg and Vorbis are included in the Halo directory. XBox version does not use Ogg Vorbis. | Aug 08 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | Fable: The Lost Chapters: Uses Ogg Vorbis for music and cutscenes (Ancient libVorbis version, 1.0 RC2). | Aug 08 10:43 |
| schestowitz | Interesting. How long has this been going on? Before Microsoft bought Bungie Lab/s? | Aug 08 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | not sure, but Fable was always Microsoft Game Studios | Aug 08 10:50 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/pMkK0.jpg | Aug 08 10:51 |
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| schestowitz | sofa art | Aug 08 10:51 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/dxMGM.jpg | Aug 08 10:52 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Validates Techrights’ Assertion That Microsoft and Apple Are Part of a Cartel Against Linux http://ur1.ca/4vaxi #google #microsoft | Aug 08 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Google Validates Techrights’ Assertion That Microsoft and Apple Are Part of a Cartel Against Linux http://ur1.ca/4vaxi #swpats | Aug 08 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Critical path: how did a book reviewer and an author end up in court? - http://bit.ly/nQLgdm sounds like a mess (v @copyrightgirl) #libel | Aug 08 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is this the Anonymous fashion line for babies? http://i.imgur.com/r6FnP.jpg | Aug 08 10:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Restoring Bletchley Park, birthplace of modern computing - http://bit.ly/rbwTOc good to see #turing | Aug 08 11:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So Skype has no problem to make WebM/VP8 the default video codec. #justsayin, dear MPEG-LA and othet patent alarmists. ... http://b1t.it/uMi | Aug 08 11:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] nice: http://gitready.com/ #fb | Aug 08 11:15 | |
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| schestowitz | Opinion: Is economic collapse good for Linux? http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20110801#feature " | Aug 08 11:41 |
| schestowitz | we can at least look forward | Aug 08 11:41 |
| schestowitz | | to a Linux Renaissance. | Aug 08 11:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 113.06 KB | Aug 08 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | economic collapse = more fake TCO studies and more reasonable Windows licensing costs, at least to certain people and until they can up the price again | Aug 08 11:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OSCON 2011: Open Source has moved from "disruption to default" http://ur1.ca/4vb7t Is economic collapse good for Linux? http://ur1.ca/4vb7w | Aug 08 11:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Last night's party really was good, it seems. @kolabsys is down by one man who's still MIA for our lunch meeting... | Aug 08 11:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Asus Support - Excellent and #Linux Friendly http://ur1.ca/4u65n "the system was running Linux, it was a clear hardware issue." | Aug 08 11:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | the police aren't enforcing the texting while driving law | Aug 08 11:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux, Linux, everywhere! http://ur1.ca/4vb9z no longer an underdog. #linux | Aug 08 11:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | a month later and they still have yet to issue a single ticket in the entire state :) | Aug 08 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | of course we know that laws always stop people from doing things that are against the law | Aug 08 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | right schestowitz? | Aug 08 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Aug 08 11:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reghardware.com/2011/08/01/john_carmack_says_videogames_lower_agression/ | Aug 08 11:58 |
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| schestowitz | what's Indiana's debt? | Aug 08 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | state debt? none | Aug 08 11:58 |
| schestowitz | and private? | Aug 08 11:59 |
| schestowitz | cumulative.. | Aug 08 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | well, municipalities can go into debt but the state is forbidden | Aug 08 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | Updike has been selling a lot of municipal bonds to fund things because he's already maxed out our local taxes to the point that law allows | Aug 08 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | reckless mismanagement is the only way to describe politicians like him | Aug 08 12:00 |
| schestowitz | did he get dental work? | Aug 08 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Aug 08 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | the EPA has ordered the town to replace the combined sewage septic system | Aug 08 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | because the amount of runoff into the river is unacceptable | Aug 08 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | so now he's griping that that is going to cost a lot of money | Aug 08 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | he should just comb out the crumbs from his beard and have whatever is living in it break down the sewage | Aug 08 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | make himself useful, you know :) | Aug 08 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | speaking of which, since when has the "Evil Spock" beard been cool? | Aug 08 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | it just makes people look more.....evil | Aug 08 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | no wonder he's not being considered for another term | Aug 08 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | it was the Evil Spock beard, not his gross incompetence | Aug 08 12:04 |
| schestowitz | spock has a beard? | Aug 08 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | Evil Spock did | Aug 08 12:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: #CentOS 6.0 http://ur1.ca/4vbcc "CentOS is outwardly identical to Scientific Linux except for four things" #rhel #gnu #linux | Aug 08 12:06 | |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Nimoy | Aug 08 12:06 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.murderati.com/storage/Evil%20Spock%20Is%20Not%20Amused.jpg | Aug 08 12:06 |
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| schestowitz | Spock with beard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Leonard_nimoy_1980.jpg | Aug 08 12:07 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Mirror_Universe_%28Star_Trek%29 | Aug 08 12:08 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've been watching MST3K as I've gotten the chance | Aug 08 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | never did see them all | Aug 08 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | I watched The Touch of Satan last night | Aug 08 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | "Ahh, the touch of Satan, moisturizes your hands as you wash the dishes" | Aug 08 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Aug 08 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | also, I noticed the brain surgeon they had on Battlestar Galactica was the PC guy from those Mac commercials | Aug 08 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | I saw that and said "Well, at least he didn't trust his brain to Mac" | Aug 08 12:17 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 08 12:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] When the only answer to a debt-induced crisis is "more debt" you don't need to be Warren Buffet to predict (and bet... http://b1t.it/uM3 | Aug 08 12:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: There's a Thunderbolt port on some Macs now, I wonder why they'd need that kind of bandwidth | Aug 08 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | a hard disk drive probably couldn't keep up with that | Aug 08 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | and I know the HFS+ file system couldn't | Aug 08 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | is it there so you can charge itunes songs to your credit card and send them to your ipod faster? | Aug 08 12:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: The #WIPO broadcasting Treaty is equivalent to giving FEDX #copyright for books they deliver http://ur1.ca/4ny3z #ACTA | Aug 08 12:22 | |
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| MinceR | i doubt hypePods can handle it any better | Aug 08 12:23 |
| iophk | MinceR: a replacement for firewire is needed. It is inherently insecure - http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/physical-memory-attacks-via-firewire-dma-part-1-overview-and-mitigation | Aug 08 12:23 |
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| DaemonFC | Apple played around with ZFS for a while and then removed it with no explanation leaving people who had used it with no way to upgrade without formatting their hard disk | Aug 08 12:24 |
| MinceR | iophk: yes, because crApple cares so much about security | Aug 08 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | Firewire never caught on | Aug 08 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | most Macs don't even have it anymore | Aug 08 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | oddly enough, one of my PCs came with a firewire to PCI-E 1x card | Aug 08 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't figure it was worth that when I only had one such port and it was that or a sound card | Aug 08 12:27 |
| MinceR | my thinkpad has an ieee1394 port, but i don't have any devices for it :> | Aug 08 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | plus I don't give a shit about Firewire and don't have anything that uses it | Aug 08 12:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google also passes on European data to US authorities - http://bit.ly/ozqmyb no surprise, but doesn't make it any better #privacy | Aug 08 12:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tablet for toddlers runs #Android 2.3 http://ur1.ca/4vbfo "4GB or 8GB of flash, a seven-inch, 800 x 480 touchscreen" | Aug 08 12:27 | |
| MinceR | my old sound card also has a few of those ports | Aug 08 12:27 |
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| iophk | DaemonFC: a spot check of the Apple store shows that firewire is still present on all available models | Aug 08 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't see it on any lately | Aug 08 12:28 |
| MinceR | strange, i remember some whining that they dropped firewire on cheaper models a while ago | Aug 08 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | is it an option or something? | Aug 08 12:28 |
| iophk | Apple's option is 'take it or leave it', right now the machines have firewire | Aug 08 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They should thank Apple for removing a needless legacy port | Aug 08 12:28 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: it's not a criterion for them either way | Aug 08 12:29 |
| iophk | it would be nice if Firewire were finally removed from Apple machines | Aug 08 12:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Google also passes on European data to US authorities - http://bit.ly/ozqmyb no surprise, but doesn't make it any better # ... | Aug 08 12:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple innovation http://ur1.ca/4vbgh #swpats #linux | Aug 08 12:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @lxoliva ♻ @laurelrusswurm: The #WIPO broadcasting Treaty is equivalent to giving FEDX #copyright for books they deliver http://ur1.c ... | Aug 08 12:29 | |
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| MinceR | the port is not what they put the logo on, after all | Aug 08 12:29 |
| DaemonFC | Apple emphasizes the simple two-step upgrade process | Aug 08 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | throw old unit out, buy a new one | Aug 08 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | so of course having less cables is more important than being able to upgrade it | Aug 08 12:30 |
| iophk | Kind of, technically there is a recycling programme: | Aug 08 12:30 |
| iophk | http://www.apple.com/recycling/ | Aug 08 12:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @reality Dear pacman, when you fail to download a package, try again. Don't continue to download all the other packages then error ou ... | Aug 08 12:31 | |
| DaemonFC | pay us to send your machien to China, where it will be broken down, lead solder and all, by 100% child labor | Aug 08 12:31 |
| schestowitz | and then they'll make some other Apple junk with it and charge you for the trash you paid to send overseas | Aug 08 12:32 |
| iophk | schestowitz: about the price, when I last did a comparison, the Mini was slightly cheaper than a Dell with corresponding specs (minus the awesome footprint) | Aug 08 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | their recycle PC page only lists Intel processors | Aug 08 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | that's cute | Aug 08 12:33 |
| iophk | Intel processors suck | Aug 08 12:33 |
| iophk | It's time to move on from that 1980's architecture | Aug 08 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | I use AMD processors | Aug 08 12:35 |
| iophk | AMD is about the same thing. | Aug 08 12:35 |
| iophk | x86 sucks | Aug 08 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | compatible with Intel but priced a lot better | Aug 08 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | power consumption with Intel tends to be higher too | Aug 08 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, x86 does suck, but it's also the most popular and cheapest commodity processor you'll find thanks to Windows making it the biggest market | Aug 08 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Aug 08 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | what a team | Aug 08 12:36 |
| iophk | yes it's a well-established problem | Aug 08 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | if you have to use x86, at least use AMD | Aug 08 12:37 |
| iophk | but then there used to be ashtrays everywhere, even in shops and hospitals | Aug 08 12:37 |
| iophk | they're gone now | Aug 08 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, now people just throw them on the ground everywhere | Aug 08 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | progress | Aug 08 12:38 |
| MinceR | iophk: crApple uses x86, so cry us a river | Aug 08 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | pretending the problem is gone is not the same as fixing the problem | Aug 08 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | you remove ashtrays and people just litter cigarette butts on the ground instead | Aug 08 12:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mac Asay FUDs Google http://ur1.ca/4vbjc | Aug 08 12:39 | |
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| schestowitz | [12:37] <iophk> but then there used to be ashtrays everywhere, even in shops and hospitals | Aug 08 12:39 |
| schestowitz | we still have cockroaches | Aug 08 12:39 |
| iophk | the ashtrays are gone because smoking is not so common anymore | Aug 08 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You know what a palmetto bug is right? | Aug 08 12:40 |
| schestowitz | not in the places you named | Aug 08 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | really big cockroach, you find them in Florida at least | Aug 08 12:40 |
| schestowitz | condos? | Aug 08 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | I was on vacation in Florida once and a palmetto bug flew towards me | Aug 08 12:40 |
| schestowitz | I once spoke to one | Aug 08 12:40 |
| iophk | MinceR: yes x86 on Apple still sucks, PPC was much better | Aug 08 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | so I batted it out of the air with a spatula and sent it down the garbage disposal | Aug 08 12:41 |
| iophk | they used less power | Aug 08 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Aug 08 12:41 |
| iophk | and resumed after sleep much faster | Aug 08 12:41 |
| schestowitz | PPC is IBM | Aug 08 12:41 |
| schestowitz | x86 is Windows haven | Aug 08 12:41 |
| schestowitz | And Apple works with Microsoft now | Aug 08 12:41 |
| DaemonFC | iophk: PowerPC chips were more expensive (but better), most users won't know the difference, and Apple can make up marketing bullshit that says Intel is better, and pocket the difference | Aug 08 12:42 |
| iophk | apparently. the patent cartel shows that | Aug 08 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Why is Groklaw sucking up so much to IBM? | Aug 08 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | it makes great business sense to saddle their unwitting customers with inferior goods | Aug 08 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, they do it a lot :) | Aug 08 12:42 |
| schestowitz | IBM is also part of our problems, not just the solutions | Aug 08 12:42 |
| schestowitz | iophk: OOXML, fonts... | Aug 08 12:42 |
| MinceR | crApple went from "integrated GPUs suck" to "integrated GPUs rule" the moment they started shipping integrated GPUs | Aug 08 12:42 |
| iophk | DaemonFC: that's probably what happened sell crappier hardware and pocket the difference | Aug 08 12:42 |
| MinceR | why even listen to them? | Aug 08 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Whatever Apple does is "the best" | Aug 08 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | all references to their previous stance are deleted | Aug 08 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Aug 08 12:43 |
| schestowitz | it does the Jobs | Aug 08 12:43 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: we've always been at war with eastasis | Aug 08 12:43 |
| MinceR | s/s$/a/ | Aug 08 12:43 |
| schestowitz | is tha a disease? | Aug 08 12:43 |
| schestowitz | eastasis | Aug 08 12:43 |
| iophk | the patent cartel activities are worrisome | Aug 08 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | IBM is like most companies that contribute to Linux | Aug 08 12:44 |
| schestowitz | it's when you grow warts on the hands from building Apple toys in Chinese factories | Aug 08 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | they're a mixed blessing | Aug 08 12:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I am Singaporean, humble and contented.: http://wp.me/pj2fj-t5 #fb | Aug 08 12:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: I am Singaporean, humble and contented. « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 46.96 KB | Aug 08 12:44 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: it's a state of suspended animation centered on a cardinal direction :> | Aug 08 12:44 |
| iophk | schestowitz: as good as all hardware is built in China now, not just Apple. | Aug 08 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It helps that they were referencing a current generation Intel integrated GPU to a weak underpowered Radeon 9200 Mobile GPU with 32 MB of DDR RAM | Aug 08 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | it's kind of hard not to be several times faster than THAT | Aug 08 12:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Ask MDN follow-up: HTML5 Gaming & Creative JavaScript http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/08/ask-mdn-follow-up-html5-gaming-creative-javascript/ | Aug 08 12:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | it goes from agaonizingly slow to slow | Aug 08 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | yay! | Aug 08 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | *agonizingly | Aug 08 12:46 |
| iophk | Singapore used to have a tax break for businesses using FLOSS. What's the current status of that? | Aug 08 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | if they compared it to a then current low end dedicated card, it would probably be several times faster than the Intel | Aug 08 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | you can make a comparison between two things more meaningful than it really is by only comparing them to each other | Aug 08 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't matter that that 5 times faster might get you 12 fps in DOOM 3 vs 3 fps | Aug 08 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | er 2.888458 whatever | Aug 08 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | you get what I mean | Aug 08 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | they're stretching a miniscule difference beyond all proportions | Aug 08 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | they're good at that | Aug 08 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I noticed Apple provides a read only HFS+ driver for Windows, but only as part of their boot camp driver bundle | Aug 08 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why they can't make it read/write | Aug 08 12:51 |
| MinceR | i think the problem is that they lied back when they weren't shipping integrated GPUs | Aug 08 12:51 |
| MinceR | and, well, that they lie as much as politicians do | Aug 08 12:51 |
| schestowitz | `[12:47] <iophk> Singapore used to have a tax break for businesses using FLOSS. What's the current status of that? | Aug 08 12:51 |
| MinceR | and with the same regularity | Aug 08 12:51 |
| schestowitz | exclusively using FLOSS? | Aug 08 12:51 |
| schestowitz | In the US you get tax breaks for reputation laundering foundations (PR by any other name) | Aug 08 12:52 |
| MinceR | hm, so "we have firefox on one of our desktop winblows boxes" is not enough? :> | Aug 08 12:52 |
| schestowitz | !google Singapore tax break open source | Aug 08 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Highlights Of Recent Tax Amendments In Singapore | http://www.guidemesingapore.com/taxation/reports/singapore-tax-amendments | Aug 08 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - AGREEMENTS FOR THE AVOIDANCE OF DOUBLE TAXATION | http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/uploadedFiles/Quick_Links/dtawriteupforwebsiteamended.pdf | Aug 08 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - HSBC International - Going to Singapore | http://www.offshore.hsbc.com/1/2/international/offshore-banking/tax-benefits/going-to-singapore | Aug 08 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Singapore Budget 2011 Summary | http://www.pwc.com/sg/en/budget-2011/assets/budget2011_summary.pdf | Aug 08 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: We're shipping a really low end mobile Radeon from 4 years ago | Aug 08 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's better because it's not one of those integrated GPUs | Aug 08 12:52 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Aug 08 12:52 |
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| iophk | I think it was posted as a comment during your holiday | Aug 08 12:54 |
| iophk | page 140 | Aug 08 12:55 |
| iophk | http://www.unctad.org/en/docs/ecdr2003_en.pdf | Aug 08 12:55 |
| iophk | “Singapore, through its Economic Development Board, | Aug 08 12:55 |
| iophk | which is charged with executing strategies to boost | Aug 08 12:55 |
| iophk | the Singaporean economy, is offering tax breaks to | Aug 08 12:55 |
| iophk | companies that use the GNU/Linux operating system instead of proprietary alternatives.” | Aug 08 12:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @jwildeboer: When the only answer to a debt-induced crisis is "more debt" you don't need to be W.Buffet to predict (and bet on) failure | Aug 08 12:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Aug 08 12:56 |
| schestowitz | ah, GNU/Linux | Aug 08 12:59 |
| schestowitz | and it says GNU | Aug 08 12:59 |
| schestowitz | So Android won't count | Aug 08 12:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Subverted #GPL http://ur1.ca/4vbnk "Just look at how the GPL has been subverted by the client-server model." !fsf !gnu | Aug 08 12:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 20 Microsoft-sponsored developers in #LibreOffice http://ur1.ca/4u84g as long as they keep #OOXML et al. out... #suse #novell | Aug 08 12:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Try KDE 4.7.0 now http://ur1.ca/4vbod esp. for those who never tried !kde before | Aug 08 13:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz: The Subverted #GPL http://ur1.ca/4vbnk "Just look at how the GPL has bn subverted by the client-server model." #fsf #gnu | Aug 08 13:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz: Try KDE 4.7.0 now http://ur1.ca/4vbod esp. 4 those who nevr tried !kde before « Hope they got rid of the drawer system | Aug 08 13:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Once I've finished some hardware upgrades, I'm gonna give !Kubuntu a serious try, for at least a month; always given up after a week so far | Aug 08 13:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux users pay 3x that of #Windows users for Humble Indie Bundle 3 http://ur1.ca/4vbp7 Linux users more generous than "Windows freetards" | Aug 08 13:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux users pay 3x that of Windows users for Humble Indie Bundle 3 – Video Games Reviews, Cheats | Geek.com .::. Size~: 62.71 KB | Aug 08 13:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mark Cuban: My Suggestion on Patent Law - http://bit.ly/q3uTev "End all software patents. Don’t make them shorter, eliminate them." | Aug 08 13:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: My Suggestion on Patent Law « blog maverick .::. Size~: 75.9 KB | Aug 08 13:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: Mark Cuban: Suggestion on Patent Law http://bit.ly/q3uTev "End software patents. Don’t make them shorter, eliminate them" | Aug 08 13:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: My Suggestion on Patent Law « blog maverick .::. Size~: 75.9 KB | Aug 08 13:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] wetabirific http://ur1.ca/4vbqk devices with #linux and !kde | Aug 08 13:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patent Absurdity Becomes Absurdly #Patent [updated] - http://bit.ly/na4xcj the voices swell to a chorus | Aug 08 13:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: aseigo: wetabirific .::. Size~: 73.36 KB | Aug 08 13:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody: Patent Absurdity Becomes Absurdly #Patent [updated] - http://bit.ly/na4xcj the voices swell to a chorus | Aug 08 13:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: open...: Patent Absurdity Becomes Absurdly Patent .::. Size~: 91.76 KB | Aug 08 13:22 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80525000 | Aug 08 13:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 12:01:50 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @schestowitz: Try KDE 4.7.0 now http://ur1.ca/4vbod esp. 4 those who nevr tried !kde before « Hope they got rid of the drawer system | Aug 08 13:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80525285 | Aug 08 13:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Aurélien Desbrières (aurele)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 12:09:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The expression of freetard is more for free software hactivist have a look at #libreplanet or #freetard on irc.freenode.net | Aug 08 13:23 |
| schestowitz | I was warping the smear against FOSS proponents, showing that it is a misguided piece of FUD | Aug 08 13:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] @evan Mayhaps there should be language subdomains for !Identica | Aug 08 13:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 200,000 BitTorrent Users Sued In The United States - http://bit.ly/mPVy9a yeah, that sounds sensible | Aug 08 13:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 08 13:24 |
| schestowitz | I was warping the smear against FOSS proponents, showing that it is a misguided piece of FUD | Aug 08 13:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Melikes! Nice, little DIY project. How about your own Eye Of Sauron? ;-) http://eclecti.cc/computergraphics/snow-globe-... http://b1t.it/uNG | Aug 08 13:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] New Project - Extract URL from Tweets https://github.com/nsisodiya/Get-Twitter-Links #python #twitter | Aug 08 13:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @schestowitz Try KDE 4.7.0 now http://ur1.ca/4vbod esp. for those who never tried !kde before | Aug 08 13:34 | |
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| schestowitz | nice to see seigo RTing me quite a few times recently | Aug 08 13:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Firefox Appears To Handle Lots Of Tabs Better Than Chrome http://ur1.ca/4vbsc privacy too | Aug 08 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] An open letter to hackers: Become revolutionaries, not state flunkies http://t.co/IY3OoQI | Aug 08 13:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] In collaborative open source summer experience, professors forge community of practice | http://red.ht/pUqiqr #openedu #POSSE | Aug 08 13:57 | |
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| iophk1 | how do I scroll back to yesterday's articles on the main web page? | Aug 08 14:11 |
| schestowitz | it's not simple, but there's a link to it | Aug 08 14:13 |
| schestowitz | It also lists the recent articles, up to 30 and 50 latest | Aug 08 14:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just received my Puppy box. Unpacking... | Aug 08 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] MP for Tottenham has warned against using riots to further demonise youth. | Aug 08 14:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 3.1-rc1 http://lwn.net/Articles/454342/rss | Aug 08 14:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android App Helps Extract the Hacker in You Android Phone Fans • by Quentyn Kennemer http://goo.gl/gedDx | Aug 08 14:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Fujitsu CTO: Flash is just a stopgap: Necessary, but not the final destination (Register): http://bit.ly/nSbyRc | Aug 08 14:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Shopper Receipts Join Paperless Age (New York Times): http://nyti.ms/nrUk62 | Aug 08 14:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why I do lowlevel stuff on Arduinos? Read this: http://altdevblogaday.com/2011/08/06/demise-low-level-programmer/ | Aug 08 14:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 3 !Linux Apps for Converting Videos - arkDuck http://ping.fm/9PFpP | Aug 08 14:39 | |
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| cubezzz | lol | Aug 08 14:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 8 Best CAD Apps for !Linux | Tech Drive-in http://ping.fm/DnSTF | Aug 08 14:46 | |
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| cubezzz | slashdot is running an article about ways to Circumvent the protect ip act | Aug 08 14:46 |
| cubezzz | and I get error 503 service unavailable | Aug 08 14:46 |
| cubezzz | coincedence? | Aug 08 14:46 |
| cubezzz | or just a lot of people accessing it I suppose | Aug 08 14:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] CalTech, UCSD nvent an "optical diode" (Network World): http://bit.ly/okJ7Ov | Aug 08 14:47 | |
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| oiaohm | cubezzz: Ok something large enough to upset slashdot impressive. | Aug 08 14:48 |
| MinceR | http://www.zeropaid.com/news/95013/8-technical-methods-that-make-the-protect-ip-act-useless/ loads fine for me | Aug 08 14:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 8 Technical Methods That Make the PROTECT IP Act Useless .::. Size~: 80.31 KB | Aug 08 14:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Great talk by @ervin about community building as friendship and family building in the Free Software community. Feel the love. #ds2011 | Aug 08 14:51 | |
| MinceR | but if it fails, you might want to try this >> http://www.zeropaid.com.nyud.net/news/95013/8-technical-methods-that-make-the-protect-ip-act-useless/ | Aug 08 14:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 8 Technical Methods That Make the PROTECT IP Act Useless .::. Size~: 80.31 KB | Aug 08 14:51 |
| cubezzz | slashdot resolved on the 3rd try | Aug 08 14:51 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 08 14:51 |
| cubezzz | same old stuff really | Aug 08 14:52 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80527622 | Aug 08 14:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jeff Gehlbach (jeffg)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 13:12:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz -1. poorly written post full of misinformation & logical fallacies. !gnu | Aug 08 14:52 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80528682 | Aug 08 14:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 13:42:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Hehe. I'm fooling around with Mint now. Fun Distro. | Aug 08 14:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Defcon: The security penetration testing quagmire (Network World): http://bit.ly/qcw6ox | Aug 08 14:52 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/100547184168157184 | Aug 08 14:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz thats not news to me, Chrome is a resource & process hog. One day I found up to 16 chrome.exe processes using boatloads of ram | Aug 08 14:53 |
| cubezzz | lynx, links, elinks | Aug 08 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Konqueror is very good with memory. Many browsers murder RAM for speed bnhmarks... | Aug 08 14:53 |
| cubezzz | wget, sftp, etc etc | Aug 08 14:54 |
| MinceR | of course it runs many processes, it uses multiprocessing to isolate tabs from each other :> | Aug 08 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Konqueror is very good with memory. Many browsers murder RAM for speed benchmarks... cause that's what people always measure | Aug 08 14:54 |
| schestowitz | I spent 5 hours last week installing and customising it for someone | Aug 08 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Mint.. | Aug 08 14:54 |
| schestowitz | And Firefox | Aug 08 14:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @wayneborean I spent 5 hours last week installing and customising it for someone | Aug 08 14:54 | |
| cubezzz | all hogs | Aug 08 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Many Win32 users move to chrome | Aug 08 14:54 |
| cubezzz | that's why I mentioned the text ones | Aug 08 14:54 |
| MinceR | the web itself is also a hog | Aug 08 14:54 |
| cubezzz | yes :) | Aug 08 14:54 |
| oiaohm | Most of those ideas go by by once they move to blocking ip addresses directly. | Aug 08 14:54 |
| MinceR | overcomplicated standards, overcomplicated nonstandard cruft on top of them | Aug 08 14:54 |
| schestowitz | JS | Aug 08 14:55 |
| cubezzz | mostly I blame flash ads | Aug 08 14:55 |
| MinceR | overcomplicated websites with all sorts of bloat | Aug 08 14:55 |
| schestowitz | enable on demand | Aug 08 14:55 |
| MinceR | yes, Trash is one of the worst offenders | Aug 08 14:55 |
| cubezzz | bring on the text programs! | Aug 08 14:55 |
| schestowitz | flash video autoplay advert... | Aug 08 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Gotta love those eh? | Aug 08 14:55 |
| schestowitz | You mind you own biz listening to music | Aug 08 14:55 |
| MinceR | yes, especially with audio | Aug 08 14:55 |
| cubezzz | on links I don't see it :) | Aug 08 14:55 |
| cubezzz | or hear it | Aug 08 14:55 |
| MinceR | and animated gif ads | Aug 08 14:55 |
| schestowitz | And some unknown tab somewhere down its rendered page is shoving utter crap down your ears | Aug 08 14:56 |
| MinceR | well, i have trash disabled in my default profile :> | Aug 08 14:56 |
| cubezzz | there's noscript for firefox, that helps a lot | Aug 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz | NoFlash | Aug 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz | NoScript has this functionality too now | Aug 08 14:56 |
| MinceR | noscript will allow trash to load if you allow a domain for scripts | Aug 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz | I remember writing CSS files in 2004 to emulate adblock | Aug 08 14:56 |
| schestowitz | The ad blocking 'industry' evolved a lot | Aug 08 14:56 |
| cubezzz | just run Plan 9 | Aug 08 14:57 |
| schestowitz | There's a lot of 'market' for no marketinf | Aug 08 14:57 |
| cubezzz | then you have no CSS, no java, no js :) | Aug 08 14:57 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: I'd consider it Plan B | Aug 08 14:57 |
| MinceR | does plan 9 allow me to use it to develop nuclear weapons already? | Aug 08 14:57 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 08 14:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] So why the hell hasn't the S&P been shut down? They screwed this up, and they screwed up the mortgage investment ratings http://ur1.ca/4vc3b | Aug 08 14:57 | |
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| schestowitz | all plan 9 OS needs now is a good browser | Aug 08 14:57 |
| cubezzz | they have abaco | Aug 08 14:57 |
| MinceR | no firefox? :> | Aug 08 14:58 |
| cubezzz | and of course links was ported | Aug 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz | tobacco? | Aug 08 14:58 |
| cubezzz | no firefox | Aug 08 14:58 |
| cubezzz | no tobacco :-P | Aug 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz | where there's smoke there's abaco | Aug 08 14:58 |
| MinceR | taco? | Aug 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz | brb | Aug 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz | gotta finish setting up monitor 3 :-) | Aug 08 14:58 |
| MinceR | sulaco? | Aug 08 14:58 |
| schestowitz | 24 inch in the middle, two widescreen 22 on the sides | Aug 08 14:59 |
| schestowitz | But I need to buy another VGA cord | Aug 08 14:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] First release candidate for Linux 3.1 http://h-online.com/-1319559 #linux #kernel #3.1 #fermi #drivers #badblocks #kvm #xen #inbrief | Aug 08 14:59 | |
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| cubezzz | the next OS will be called Listerine | Aug 08 14:59 |
| schestowitz | large speakers too.... quite hardware around this sofa | Aug 08 15:00 |
| schestowitz | *harcore | Aug 08 15:00 |
| schestowitz | *hardcore | Aug 08 15:00 |
| oiaohm | No hardcore is when the sofa is the speakers | Aug 08 15:00 |
| oiaohm | I know a person who sofa is the sub woffer | Aug 08 15:01 |
| oiaohm | Only way to hide the item due to it being so large. | Aug 08 15:02 |
| cubezzz | Cerwin Vega is pretty good | Aug 08 15:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] What Would Linus Do About GNOME 3? Why, Use Xfce http://bit.ly/ofTqS3 | Aug 08 15:12 | |
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| schestowitz | ok, i'll buy the cable tomorrow | Aug 08 15:21 |
| schestowitz | now let's post some links | Aug 08 15:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Opinion from the other side of the coin | http://red.ht/oP8ITW #hackmanagement | Aug 08 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hmm BBC radio 5 presenter"1 in 3 teenagers has a Blackberry" #makeupstatistics | Aug 08 15:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Opinion from the other side of the coin | opensource.com .::. Size~: 42.52 KB | Aug 08 15:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] At the Mothership of Demo Parties – Assembly (pt1) https://mozillalabs.com/blog/2011/08/mothership-of-demo-parties-assembly/ | Aug 08 15:26 | |
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| ender_33 | well I had an interesting experience this weekend | Aug 08 15:26 |
| ender_33 | one of my hard drives broke, the hdd data connector was damaged | Aug 08 15:26 |
| ender_33 | everything is so tight inside my server | Aug 08 15:27 |
| ender_33 | anyways, ZFS and super glue saved my data! | Aug 08 15:27 |
| ender_33 | I'll know soon if i've recovered 100%, scrubbing right now | Aug 08 15:29 |
| ender_33 | one of my movies was damaged and a few songs | Aug 08 15:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] seems someone is in dire need of sponsoring. I am sure the attendancees want to chip in to have him over. | Aug 08 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] !Boston today: Disgusting. | Aug 08 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] More footballers being accused of rape. #highriskjob. | Aug 08 15:32 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80529791 | Aug 08 15:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 14:10:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I'm impressed so far. It's well done. There are a few things I don't like, which I'm going to fix, #mono for example. | Aug 08 15:33 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: wow | Aug 08 15:34 |
| schestowitz | glad you're overcoming it... | Aug 08 15:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Put white wine in a Sodastream to make your own sparkling wine" #funny | Aug 08 15:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !identiverse | Aug 08 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera Hmm BBC radio 5 presenter"1 in 3 teenagers has a Blackberry" #makeupstatistics | Aug 08 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Caught Paying Burson-Marsteller to Smear Google http://ur1.ca/4vcd5 #AstroTurfing #Microsoft #Germany #BursonMarsteller #FUD | Aug 08 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Caught Paying Burson-Marsteller to Smear Google http://ur1.ca/4vcd5 #pr #antitrust #lobbying #google #android #privacy | Aug 08 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Here's a good from Kristen Lamb one for all the writers out there: http://is.gd/CfTL25 #MyWANA #amwriting | Aug 08 15:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm happy i have never seen any !fsw 'getting girls' jokes, @mairin, but i am only a noob free software user #justluckyiguess | Aug 08 15:52 | |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/7GiV3.jpg | Aug 08 15:57 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Too much man" http://i.imgur.com/1K8Uh.jpg | Aug 08 15:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The #WIPO broadcasting Treaty is equivalent to giving FEDX ownership of !copyright for books they deliver http://ur1.ca/4ny3z !ACTA !cdnpoli | Aug 08 15:59 | |
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| ender_33 | schestowitz - yeah its quite easy, zpool scrub is fixing it all | Aug 08 15:59 |
| ender_33 | no known data errors :) | Aug 08 15:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] No Btrfs by default in Fedora 16 http://lwn.net/Articles/454347/rss | Aug 08 16:01 | |
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| schestowitz | I just got a mchine without optical drives | Aug 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz | two lan ports | Aug 08 16:04 |
| schestowitz | 4 USB | Aug 08 16:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxAustralia sorts out finances, keeps membership free http://ur1.ca/4vcg5 free as in freedom? ^_^ | Aug 08 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] No Btrfs by default in Fedora 16 http://lwn.net/Articles/454347/rss #notasurprisenotreadyyet via @lwnnet | Aug 08 16:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Windows is Dying… and so are Macintosh and Linux http://ur1.ca/4vcgm but mobile devices are #Linux based | Aug 08 16:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Do u hear that? It's marching penguins headed to #linuxcon in Vancouver, BC to celebrate #linux20th. Join us: http://bit.ly/qzpoii | Aug 08 16:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] My round-up of OSCON (and why open source is not dead) on CWUK: http://wmk.me/rgrTPh | Aug 08 16:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 08 16:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 great uses for your old #Windows computer http://ur1.ca/4vcip "Linux tester. Many #Linux users start with an older machine" | Aug 08 16:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] 10 small Linux apps to take note of http://bit.ly/mOPfft | Aug 08 16:16 | |
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| ender_33 | schestowitz - what did you get? | Aug 08 16:17 |
| ender_33 | I took the optical drive out of my server.. needed the sata port | Aug 08 16:18 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80532226 | Aug 08 16:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 15:09:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Genealogy and dying, like fish and chips :) | Aug 08 16:18 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Aug 08 16:18 |
| schestowitz | Equiinet | Aug 08 16:18 |
| schestowitz | CachePilot | Aug 08 16:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Stock market are sharply in the red today... in each and every country. It's like October 2008 all over again. Diagnosis: Debtitis? | Aug 08 16:19 | |
| ender_33 | not bad | Aug 08 16:19 |
| ender_33 | looks like a server | Aug 08 16:20 |
| schestowitz | Old one | Aug 08 16:20 |
| schestowitz | Boots fast | Aug 08 16:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat completes 10 years of Linux Kernel Leadership http://ur1.ca/4vcjd #Novell soon completes 5 years of sellout with #Microsoft | Aug 08 16:21 | |
| schestowitz | It's just for monitoring here, it has a celeron | Aug 08 16:21 |
| ender_33 | what cpu | Aug 08 16:21 |
| schestowitz | word up | Aug 08 16:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat completes 10 years of Linux Kernel Leadership .::. Size~: 173.68 KB | Aug 08 16:21 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80532506 | Aug 08 16:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 15:18:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Next people will be saying capitalism does not work, | Aug 08 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Capitalism works, not when it's based on monstrous debt though (borrowing from grandkids' future) | Aug 08 16:22 |
| ender_33 | interesting cause we're borrowing from our grandkids grandkids grandkids future to pay off climate debt | Aug 08 16:22 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80532628 | Aug 08 16:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Laurel L. Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 15:20:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @satipera @schestowitz I wouldn't trust my geneaology or anything else to live in the cloud. Just b/c something works does not mean the end | Aug 08 16:23 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: naa.. | Aug 08 16:24 |
| ender_33 | or will be soon if not | Aug 08 16:24 |
| schestowitz | but anyway, we assume the kids will be alright | Aug 08 16:24 |
| schestowitz | And worth much | Aug 08 16:24 |
| schestowitz | But it's a chain of suppositions | Aug 08 16:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Through banking (loans/mortgages, foreclosures), the Chinese already own a lot of Western estate because they manufactured | Aug 08 16:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Does open source need corporate backing to succeed? http://bit.ly/reLwV8 | Aug 08 16:24 | |
| schestowitz | We assume stability in our generation | Aug 08 16:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Does open source need corporate backing to succeed? | Analysis | Features | PC Pro .::. Size~: 45.22 KB | Aug 08 16:24 |
| schestowitz | And then value the kids based on ourselves | Aug 08 16:24 |
| schestowitz | In hyperinflation our kids are too worthless to pay back thre debt, they become a burden and a liability sometimes | Aug 08 16:24 |
| ender_33 | silly bankers, they should know | Aug 08 16:25 |
| schestowitz | naa.. | Aug 08 16:25 |
| schestowitz | They think short-term | Aug 08 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Bonus/quarter | Aug 08 16:25 |
| schestowitz | And plan escape route | Aug 08 16:25 |
| schestowitz | I heard China builds some nice Japan-like condos | Aug 08 16:25 |
| ender_33 | the escape route was already planned a long time ago | Aug 08 16:25 |
| ender_33 | and we're not invited | Aug 08 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Some US plutocrats must already have some place/outlet/escape in Vancouver | Aug 08 16:26 |
| ender_33 | there won't be any escape in vancouver | Aug 08 16:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.drbill.cc/2011/08/03/aw-man-i-knew-it-was-too-good-to-be-true-ie-study-a-hoax/ | Aug 08 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dr. Bill: The Computer Curmudgeon » Aw! Man! I Knew It Was Too Good To Be True! IE Study a Hoax! :: Dr. Bill makes pointed, and at times, controversial observations on Tech Life and the wild and wacky world of the web, computers, and all things geeky! Hot tech tips and news, Geek Software of the Week and Geek Culture, with plenty of good humor as well! .::. Size~: 42.76 KB | Aug 08 16:26 |
| schestowitz | see comment #1 :-) | Aug 08 16:27 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: escape from US inflation | Aug 08 16:27 |
| ender_33 | yeah that is rather short sighted | Aug 08 16:27 |
| schestowitz | and if they start taxing the rich (the Republicans won't allow it), they'll just take the money and leave | Aug 08 16:27 |
| schestowitz | They stayed in the US only while they could exploit it | Aug 08 16:27 |
| schestowitz | No tax | Aug 08 16:27 |
| ender_33 | they are taxing the rich | Aug 08 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Cheap labour in comparison | Aug 08 16:27 |
| schestowitz | And big domestic market | Aug 08 16:27 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: they tax the rich | Aug 08 16:28 |
| schestowitz | Like those who make over $100k | Aug 08 16:28 |
| schestowitz | Not those who make like a billion a year | Aug 08 16:28 |
| ender_33 | they all get taxed | Aug 08 16:28 |
| schestowitz | At some stage you cease yo be taxed, you'r a "God" | Aug 08 16:28 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates is not taxed | Aug 08 16:28 |
| schestowitz | He set up a scam | Aug 08 16:28 |
| schestowitz | He is actually taxing /US/ | Aug 08 16:28 |
| ender_33 | not unless you're breaking the law and have offshore accounts | Aug 08 16:28 |
| schestowitz | Using patents and stuff he invests his money in | Aug 08 16:29 |
| schestowitz | He has WIndows tax and monsantoi tax on food | Aug 08 16:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Need a USB hub for all my phones and wires and things. Any recommendations? | Aug 08 16:29 | |
| schestowitz | Still trying to find way to tax water | Aug 08 16:29 |
| schestowitz | SOme companies that purify water.. | Aug 08 16:29 |
| schestowitz | See Coca Cola mischiefs in Colombia | Aug 08 16:29 |
| ender_33 | water is going to be taxed anyways | Aug 08 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Or intel with its febs that need water that's otherwise vital for drinking purposes | Aug 08 16:30 |
| ender_33 | the left wing will just charge eco fees on it | Aug 08 16:30 |
| schestowitz | clean water only? | Aug 08 16:30 |
| ender_33 | amd does that too you know | Aug 08 16:30 |
| schestowitz | As in, drinkable? | Aug 08 16:30 |
| schestowitz | No water is clean | Aug 08 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Too much toxins in circulation by now | Aug 08 16:30 |
| ender_33 | like the flouride the gov't adds | Aug 08 16:31 |
| schestowitz | the govt? | Aug 08 16:31 |
| schestowitz | Or the companies? | Aug 08 16:31 |
| ender_33 | the gov't | Aug 08 16:31 |
| schestowitz | how so? | Aug 08 16:31 |
| schestowitz | the govt. does not sell toothpaste\ | Aug 08 16:31 |
| ender_33 | outside your UK bubble, stuff happens | Aug 08 16:31 |
| ender_33 | the hamilton city municiple gov't adds flouride and checks it 60K+ times a day | Aug 08 16:32 |
| ender_33 | they got adds all over the city | Aug 08 16:32 |
| ender_33 | 'drink water, its safe' | Aug 08 16:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] that's it! the desktop summit presentation days are over. some FANTASTIC presentations .. now on to work sessions. | Aug 08 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] i've already fixed a few bugs that people brought to me in person, so i suppose in the strictest sense work sessions have already begun ;) | Aug 08 16:32 | |
| ender_33 | more like 'drink water, the flouride slowly erodes your IQ' | Aug 08 16:32 |
| ender_33 | not sure about the UK but in Canada, and afaik in the USA, the gov't does it | Aug 08 16:33 |
| schestowitz | do you have links about it? | Aug 08 16:35 |
| schestowitz | Preferably from journals | Aug 08 16:35 |
| schestowitz | The cream from embryo thing was interesting | Aug 08 16:35 |
| ender_33 | you need me to prove common knowledge? | Aug 08 16:35 |
| schestowitz | But it's not babies per se | Aug 08 16:35 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: yes, please | Aug 08 16:35 |
| schestowitz | it's not common knowledge | Aug 08 16:35 |
| schestowitz | Just as the chemtrail theory amounts to nonsense | Aug 08 16:35 |
| schestowitz | unless there too you can produce proof | Aug 08 16:36 |
| ender_33 | what are you asking about sources for | Aug 08 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Wow, the markets sure eat dirt today | Aug 08 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Like 5% down | Aug 08 16:36 |
| ender_33 | nobody is questioning that flouride is in the water here | Aug 08 16:36 |
| schestowitz | In one day | Aug 08 16:36 |
| schestowitz | In case it all comes down, make sure you know people and are networked to back one another | Aug 08 16:36 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: fluoride is in the water everywhre | Aug 08 16:37 |
| ender_33 | http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/consult/_2009/fluoride-fluorure/draft-ebauche-eng.php#t5 | Aug 08 16:37 |
| schestowitz | It's in many products we rinse with | Aug 08 16:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fluoride in Drinking Water - 2009 Health Canada Consultation Document .::. Size~: 349.65 KB | Aug 08 16:37 |
| schestowitz | what do you propose we brush our teeth with instead? | Aug 08 16:37 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: yes, it's in the water | Aug 08 16:37 |
| ender_33 | non-flouride toothpastes | Aug 08 16:37 |
| schestowitz | the link you gave probably shows it's a serious problem, which it is | Aug 08 16:38 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: what's their active ingredient? | Aug 08 16:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @arstechnica: Creative Commons images and you: a quick guide for image users: http://t.co/EJxSE4A | Aug 08 16:39 | |
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| ender_33 | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7760776 | Aug 08 16:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Neurotoxicity of sodium fluoride in rats. [Neurotoxicol Teratol. 1995 Mar-Apr] - PubMed result .::. Size~: 114.84 KB | Aug 08 16:40 |
| ender_33 | schestowitz - something else that kills bacteria | Aug 08 16:40 |
| ender_33 | flouride isn't the only poison | Aug 08 16:40 |
| ender_33 | not to mention, flouride doesn't seem effective against plaque anyways | Aug 08 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Can you show why you argue the govt. is being a flouride conspiracy? unless some lobbyists from the fluoride industry use the government, this seems far fetched. | Aug 08 16:41 |
| ender_33 | people who brush their teeth still need fillings sometimes, and thats because plaque has made their mouth acidic | Aug 08 16:41 |
| ender_33 | so what roy? | Aug 08 16:41 |
| MinceR | the point of fluoride is not killing bacteria | Aug 08 16:41 |
| MinceR | it's fluoridating the tooth enamel | Aug 08 16:41 |
| ender_33 | it can only be a problem if there is some sort of capitalist conspiracy? | Aug 08 16:42 |
| schestowitz | I didn't say that | Aug 08 16:42 |
| ender_33 | yes you did | Aug 08 16:42 |
| schestowitz | But it's irrelevant to the question | Aug 08 16:42 |
| ender_33 | unless some lobbyists from the fluoride industry use the government, this seems far fetched. | Aug 08 16:42 |
| schestowitz | the government does not sell it | Aug 08 16:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] "Berlin's Future Is Open" awards being announced in closing. | Aug 08 16:42 | |
| schestowitz | But like in the case of the corn and sugar industry, it can be the puppet of companies | Aug 08 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Like Boeing | Aug 08 16:42 |
| ender_33 | its always lobbyists working for capitalists | Aug 08 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Lots of examples like this in Cabalegate | Aug 08 16:43 |
| schestowitz | So why again should governments be blamed for flouride? | Aug 08 16:43 |
| schestowitz | fluoride | Aug 08 16:43 |
| schestowitz | governments change all the time | Aug 08 16:43 |
| schestowitz | It's the people who run government who stay the same | Aug 08 16:44 |
| ender_33 | governments have been doing it | Aug 08 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch with his rags, Koch... | Aug 08 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Sot he government doesn't need to poison the people | Aug 08 16:44 |
| schestowitz | It's the plutocrats maybe | Aug 08 16:44 |
| ender_33 | the government DOES need to make people stupid | Aug 08 16:44 |
| ender_33 | then they go along with everything | Aug 08 16:44 |
| schestowitz | The government just wants to be reelected for another term and not be hanged for bad behaviour | Aug 08 16:44 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: but leaders change | Aug 08 16:44 |
| schestowitz | In Western countries anyway | Aug 08 16:45 |
| schestowitz | So even if they poison the people it can take a generation to take effect | Aug 08 16:45 |
| ender_33 | http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=second-thoughts-on-fluoride | Aug 08 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Fluoride messes up the body | Aug 08 16:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Second Thoughts on Fluoride: Scientific American .::. Size~: 118.64 KB | Aug 08 16:45 |
| ender_33 | the leaders DONT CHANGE | Aug 08 16:45 |
| ender_33 | idiot | Aug 08 16:45 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't mean that its use is a plot to make people stupid | Aug 08 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Leaders do change in government | Aug 08 16:45 |
| ender_33 | no they dont | Aug 08 16:45 |
| schestowitz | The real leaders are not in government | Aug 08 16:45 |
| schestowitz | They're in commerce | Aug 08 16:46 |
| ender_33 | their owners haven't changed | Aug 08 16:46 |
| schestowitz | Koch, Gates, Murdoch, etc. | Aug 08 16:46 |
| schestowitz | So blame their owners | Aug 08 16:46 |
| schestowitz | Not the government | Aug 08 16:46 |
| schestowitz | !google bill gates lobby nuclear | Aug 08 16:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bill Gates: I support lots of energy sources, not just nuclear ... | http://sustainableindustries.com/articles/2011/05/bill-gates-i-support-lots-energy-sources-not-just-nuclear | Aug 08 16:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - USBILLIONAIRES GATES & BUFFETT GO NUCLEAR - Venezuela - www ... | http://venezuela.indymedia.org/es/2011/02/28359.shtml | Aug 08 16:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bill Gates Pimps Nuclear Power, Slams Roof-Top Solar in Latest ... | http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php%3Faz%3Dview_all%26address%3D115x301029 | Aug 08 16:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The anti-nuclear lobby has misled us all - Comments Page 1 ... | http://richarddawkins.net/articles/612292-the-anti-nuclear-lobby-has-misled-us-all/comments%3Fpage%3D1 | Aug 08 16:46 |
| ender_33 | LOL | Aug 08 16:47 |
| ender_33 | those names you listed, they have owners | Aug 08 16:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] the Idea Sketch award goes to two projects: Toolset for Development of Multimodal User Interfaces and TeleportR | Aug 08 16:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] 2nd place was .. Grid Calendar: a shared and edited calendar, e.g. wikipedia for community calendars. | Aug 08 16:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 Må bare oppklare for sikkerhets skyld, etter svar til @odin - @tiram er slettes ikke sosialist, men _kommunist_. Med frihetlig ... | Aug 08 16:47 | |
| schestowitz | GOvernment is justt he shadow casr upon the population by those who really are in power, even when they die (dynasty) | Aug 08 16:47 |
| ender_33 | you think too small and not far enough | Aug 08 16:48 |
| ender_33 | you think its limited to those 4 capitalists | Aug 08 16:48 |
| ender_33 | naive | Aug 08 16:48 |
| ender_33 | tell me who their bosses are, and we'll continue - cause I don't think you've bothered | Aug 08 16:48 |
| schestowitz | So yousubsrive to the "bankers own everything" theory? | Aug 08 16:48 |
| ender_33 | yes | Aug 08 16:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera @schestowitz Next people will be saying capitalism does not work, | Aug 08 16:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] Sugar Labs flashdrive takes first place ... can't wait for Akademy Awards to start up. | Aug 08 16:49 | |
| ender_33 | you won't get rid of them by replacing capitalism with capitalism 2.0 | Aug 08 16:50 |
| ender_33 | flouride is one of those things they need in place to keep the media working | Aug 08 16:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lohang !photo365 day 8 http://ur1.ca/4vc6e | Aug 08 16:51 | |
| ender_33 | along with the ruined food | Aug 08 16:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In Praise of the World Wide #Web, #Openness and #Sharing - http://bit.ly/p55Zrq their contribution is still hugely undervalued | Aug 08 16:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] i especially liked that photograph. @lohang | Aug 08 16:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Changing themes in !Gnome 3 http://youtu.be/A9gCFdvGHL4 #youtube !fedora | Aug 08 16:51 | |
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| schestowitz | Why do you call me idiot by the way? Doy ou thtrow a fit of rage every time someone does not agree with you? | Aug 08 16:51 |
| schestowitz | You have failed to prove that the government is behind fluride, still | Aug 08 16:51 |
| schestowitz | [16:50] <ender_33> flouride is one of those things they need in place to keep the media working | Aug 08 16:51 |
| ender_33 | I've failed to prove this to you, over an irc chat | Aug 08 16:52 |
| schestowitz | Are you suggesting that people fall for media illusion because of food and water? | Aug 08 16:52 |
| ender_33 | yes, they certainly assist | Aug 08 16:52 |
| ender_33 | when you have water that lowers iq, believing the media becomes easier | Aug 08 16:52 |
| schestowitz | That someone is k00king with what we eat and drink to make us believe their paper? :-D | Aug 08 16:52 |
| schestowitz | Cause that would be k00ky | Aug 08 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Rojadirecta Argues That The Justice Department Is Making Up Laws; Has No Legal Basis To Forfeit Its Domain - http://bit.ly/mQbksQ plucky | Aug 08 16:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rojadirecta Argues That The Justice Department Is Making Up Laws; Has No Legal Basis To Forfeit Its Domain | Techdirt .::. Size~: 85.67 KB | Aug 08 16:52 |
| schestowitz | Besides, what do those in power drink? Same water... | Aug 08 16:52 |
| ender_33 | murdoch is controlling the government right? | Aug 08 16:53 |
| schestowitz | [16:52] <ender_33> when you have water that lowers iq, believing the media becomes easier | Aug 08 16:53 |
| ender_33 | schestowitz - water without flouride | Aug 08 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Na.. na... what determines intelligrence quotient is a lot more than water and a certain chemical | Aug 08 16:53 |
| ender_33 | antidotes, genetic traits that keep them safe, many things can be done | Aug 08 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Sure... | Aug 08 16:54 |
| ender_33 | schestwitz - feel free to reign in on your own ignorance of the facts - and ignoring facts and claiming they are false | Aug 08 16:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Acrobat walks tightrope between hot air balloons - http://tgr.ph/nMBxQU not often you see a *uighur* do this... (v @farwestchina) | Aug 08 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody In Praise of the World Wide #Web, #Openness and #Sharing - http://bit.ly/p55Zrq their contribution is still hugely undervalued | Aug 08 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Assuming a person believes in a god or gods, is free will the god or gods get out of gaol free card? | Aug 08 16:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Video: Acrobat walks tightrope between hot air balloons - Telegraph .::. Size~: 54.02 KB | Aug 08 16:54 |
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| schestowitz | But you enter the realm of a world where you believe they have some magic afrodeziac of a foundatain of youth while trying to deliberately poison all the rest to believe their newspaper\ | Aug 08 16:54 |
| ender_33 | did I? | Aug 08 16:55 |
| ender_33 | now you're just making shit up again | Aug 08 16:55 |
| schestowitz | That's quite a monumental task to go down thisn route.. | Aug 08 16:55 |
| ender_33 | I've noticed something | Aug 08 16:55 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80532833 | Aug 08 16:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 15:25:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I have to disagree with you. Capitalism is bought politicians making laws for business; legitimising robbery and fraud. | Aug 08 16:55 |
| ender_33 | when *you* don't agree with something, you repeat it with a bundled fairy tail to make it seem nuts | Aug 08 16:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] a fork of Redmine, ChiliProject (refered to incorrectly on the slide as "OpenProject") took first place in "Best Practice". | Aug 08 16:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/100593542522617856 | Aug 08 16:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @laurelrusswurm: RT @satipera @schestowitz Next people will be saying capitalism does not work, | Aug 08 16:56 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: I associate it with theories I know exist | Aug 08 16:56 |
| schestowitz | They can often be classified into some | Aug 08 16:57 |
| ender_33 | which is wrong | Aug 08 16:57 |
| schestowitz | And shelved there | Aug 08 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Like the "evetything is banker" theory | Aug 08 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Or "the government is attacking us" theory | Aug 08 16:57 |
| ender_33 | like I said, you're free to your own ignorance | Aug 08 16:57 |
| schestowitz | thank you very much | Aug 08 16:57 |
| ender_33 | that being said, #anonops is a fun place for this type of discussion :) | Aug 08 16:59 |
| ender_33 | they don't like mono either btw ;) | Aug 08 17:01 |
| ender_33 | technical reasons though, not because of patents | Aug 08 17:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] Akademy Awards: Dario Andres for Bug Triage, Martin Grässlin for KWin and the Tom Albers for Sys Admin team! terrific choices! | Aug 08 17:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Randi Zuckerberg. To paraphrase the NRA a non anonymous internet is a polite internet. | Aug 08 17:02 | |
| schestowitz | amonops | Aug 08 17:04 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Aug 08 17:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] Akademy Awards: Dario Andres for bug triage, Martin Graesslin for KWin and Tom Albers for Sys Admin team! terrific choices! | Aug 08 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] CC Korea develops iPhone app for CC news and understanding CC at a glance: http://bit.ly/qrFCVw | Aug 08 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] Mirko Boehm gets a special Akademy Award for his key role in making BDS happen and with success. | Aug 08 17:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Creative Commons Korea for iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad on the iTunes App Store .::. Size~: 28.24 KB | Aug 08 17:04 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/80534413 | Aug 08 17:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Joel Adamson (trashbird1240)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 15:59:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz This supports my contention that we're heading into the next hardware-focused computing era | Aug 08 17:04 |
| schestowitz | that's where the scarcity is | Aug 08 17:05 |
| schestowitz | except patents on software | Aug 08 17:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @trashbird1240 that's where the scarcity is | Aug 08 17:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Excellent real-life explanation of how !copyright is an impediment to growth in @glynnmoody's article http://ur1.ca/4vco2 #badforcreators | Aug 08 17:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Morning folks. Two calls down already, how is your day going? | Aug 08 17:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In Praise of the World Wide Web, Openness and Sharing - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 73.74 KB | Aug 08 17:07 |
| ender_33 | only scarcity is valuable? | Aug 08 17:08 |
| schestowitz | yes | Aug 08 17:08 |
| schestowitz | labour is scarece too | Aug 08 17:08 |
| schestowitz | *scarce | Aug 08 17:08 |
| ender_33 | i would argue its not | Aug 08 17:08 |
| schestowitz | if you have a lot of something, it gets devalued | Aug 08 17:08 |
| schestowitz | like soil | Aug 08 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Or water | Aug 08 17:09 |
| ender_33 | theres 6-7 billion people on the planet | Aug 08 17:09 |
| schestowitz | yes | Aug 08 17:09 |
| schestowitz | devalued as well | Aug 08 17:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It sure feels like a timewarp back to 2008 http://ur1.ca/4vcpb Remember the Great Depression two had 3-year gap between crash and depression | Aug 08 17:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC is making a big thing about woman being in charge of RN ship. I strongly support the equal rights of women to be killed for politicians. | Aug 08 17:09 | |
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| schestowitz | you can use another person | Aug 08 17:09 |
| schestowitz | We're expandable | Aug 08 17:09 |
| schestowitz | see sharks and dolphins | Aug 08 17:09 |
| schestowitz | We count them like pebbles | Aug 08 17:09 |
| schestowitz | because they're at risk of extinction | Aug 08 17:09 |
| schestowitz | We don't know how to manufacture those creatures yet | Aug 08 17:10 |
| ender_33 | sure we do | Aug 08 17:10 |
| schestowitz | we have all the materials, but putting the atoms together in the right order and state is hard | Aug 08 17:10 |
| schestowitz | we know how to use their own reproduction system | Aug 08 17:10 |
| schestowitz | but that's cheating | Aug 08 17:11 |
| ender_33 | we can make a bee from scratch | Aug 08 17:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110808 #sip_and_click | Aug 08 17:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: coffee.jezra: a coffee a day photo project | 2011-08-08 .::. Size~: 3.83 KB | Aug 08 17:11 |
| schestowitz | we can also store embryos | Aug 08 17:11 |
| schestowitz | ender_33: link? | Aug 08 17:11 |
| ender_33 | link what | Aug 08 17:11 |
| schestowitz | can we make a bee that reproduces | Aug 08 17:11 |
| schestowitz | [17:11] <ender_33> we can make a bee from scratch | Aug 08 17:11 |
| ender_33 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering | Aug 08 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | that's hacking nature | Aug 08 17:12 |
| ender_33 | so | Aug 08 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Not manufacturing bees | Aug 08 17:12 |
| ender_33 | you were hacked | Aug 08 17:12 |
| schestowitz | you got cracked :-) | Aug 08 17:12 |
| ender_33 | everything has been hacked in some way | Aug 08 17:12 |
| ender_33 | we could manufacture bees if needed | Aug 08 17:13 |
| ender_33 | we could recreate noah's ark from a dna standpoint | Aug 08 17:13 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/77928229#notice-80534859 | Aug 08 17:13 |
| ender_33 | not having the actual animals, having the dna and re-creation | Aug 08 17:13 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/77928229#notice-80534859 | Aug 08 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.79 KB | Aug 08 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.79 KB | Aug 08 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Susprising that Jos from SUSE replies to me still | Aug 08 17:13 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80534859 | Aug 08 17:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jos Poortvliet (jospoortvliet)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 16:07:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz yes it's kind'a scary... | Aug 08 17:13 |
| ender_33 | yeah SUSE people aren't evil | Aug 08 17:14 |
| schestowitz | he's a KDE person | Aug 08 17:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Syrian ministry hacked http://ur1.ca/4vcpx | Aug 08 17:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] AntiSec leaks 10GB of law enforcement data http://ur1.ca/4vcq1 | Aug 08 17:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] German cops call airport full-body pornoscanners “useless,” EU requires opt out from scanning http://ur1.ca/4vcqe | Aug 08 17:14 | |
| schestowitz | Marcus Rex left | Aug 08 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Syrian ministry hacked – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 20.25 KB | Aug 08 17:14 |
| schestowitz | Maybe fired | Aug 08 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AntiSec leaks 10GB of law enforcement data – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 19.68 KB | Aug 08 17:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: German cops call airport full-body pornoscanners “useless,” EU requires opt out from scanning – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 21.32 KB | Aug 08 17:14 |
| ender_33 | I've been talking to a few ex-novell people on g+ | Aug 08 17:14 |
| schestowitz | SUSE is run by attachmate now | Aug 08 17:14 |
| schestowitz | Not by former SuSE | Aug 08 17:14 |
| schestowitz | Rex would not happily sign a patent deal with Ballmer | Aug 08 17:14 |
| ender_33 | opensuse is run by the community | Aug 08 17:14 |
| schestowitz | I mean SUSE | Aug 08 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Paid staff | Aug 08 17:15 |
| ender_33 | they only get one vote | Aug 08 17:15 |
| schestowitz | It's funny when friends tell me there's now a transfer of weath from poor to rich | Aug 08 17:16 |
| schestowitz | People forget what money essnetially is | Aug 08 17:16 |
| schestowitz | It never really existed mcuh of it... | Aug 08 17:16 |
| schestowitz | So there's no ransfer or anything | Aug 08 17:16 |
| schestowitz | just implosion | Aug 08 17:16 |
| ender_33 | the poor dont have anything, its middle class to rich | Aug 08 17:16 |
| ender_33 | with the poor pushing it harder | Aug 08 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Bankers are better off cause they get bailouts, forcing us to cover their losses | Aug 08 17:16 |
| schestowitz | The situation is, things approach their real value now | Aug 08 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Now the imaginary, based-on-debt value | Aug 08 17:17 |
| ender_33 | when the poor say 'tax the rich' it ends up being the middle class | Aug 08 17:17 |
| schestowitz | yes, that too | Aug 08 17:17 |
| ender_33 | the rich offshore the income or end up having enough loses to cover the tax debt | Aug 08 17:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] No #Btrfs by default in !Fedora 16 ⚫ by corbet http://goo.gl/PjDQo | Aug 08 17:17 | |
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| ender_33 | I understand capital loses most people don't | Aug 08 17:17 |
| schestowitz | http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=americas | Aug 08 17:18 |
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| ender_33 | but the offshoring is wrong | Aug 08 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Down over 6% in one day | Aug 08 17:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=nws&q=protests+&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= | Aug 08 17:18 |
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| ender_33 | I could make a billion on the stock market, pay tax o that, then lose a billion the next year | Aug 08 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Social justice demanded more and more | Aug 08 17:18 |
| ender_33 | in Canada, you get that back | Aug 08 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Moving to militia states | Aug 08 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Angry mobs and long-term racial wars | Aug 08 17:19 |
| ender_33 | if you lost your wealth you get the capital gains tax back (capital loses) | Aug 08 17:19 |
| schestowitz | http://tribune.com.pk/story/226875/protests-in-london/ | Aug 08 17:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.koreaherald.com/national/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20110808000690 | Aug 08 17:20 |
| schestowitz | http://tribune.com.pk/story/226875/protests-in-londonhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/08/bahrain-protests-repression-getting-worse/ | Aug 08 17:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/08/bahrain-protests-repression-getting-worse | Aug 08 17:20 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bahrain protests: 'The repression is getting worse' | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 108.44 KB | Aug 08 17:20 |
| schestowitz | http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/08/20118771346977345.html | Aug 08 17:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In India, one protest results in two stories - Opinion - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 110.19 KB | Aug 08 17:20 |
| ender_33 | al jazeera lol | Aug 08 17:20 |
| schestowitz | http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/18319/World/Region/Growing-protests-force-the-Israeli-government-to-a.aspx | Aug 08 17:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Growing protests force the Israeli government to address social grievances - Region - World - Ahram Online .::. Size~: 123.34 KB | Aug 08 17:20 |
| schestowitz | http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFL6E7J80ZZ20110808 | Aug 08 17:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bangladesh braces for more protests as ex-PM charged with corruption | Energy & Oil | Reuters .::. Size~: 30.76 KB | Aug 08 17:21 |
| schestowitz | That's just today | Aug 08 17:21 |
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| ender_33 | schestowitz - ever try i2p? | Aug 08 17:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Oracle having problems with corrupted backups? - http://bit.ly/pkc76a is this *really* the story it wants to tell? (v @jwildeboer) #google | Aug 08 17:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Groklaw - Oracle v. Google - Balance of Discovery Failures Lies with Oracle .::. Size~: 48.66 KB | Aug 08 17:22 |
| ender_33 | imo everyone should use it | Aug 08 17:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In #France, Google Secures First Google Books Deal - http://bit.ly/q3y7no interesting #gbs | Aug 08 17:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In France, Google Secures First Google Books Deal | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 99.91 KB | Aug 08 17:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxGS-2M6_5I&feature=player_embedded | Aug 08 17:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oracle seemingly unable to find the backups of the sun.com website. I am quite sure some ex-SUN guy/gal can help. http:... http://b1t.it/uPP | Aug 08 17:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Some Army organisation was asked about cutting off fingers "It was entirely out of keeping with the philosophy of the armed forces". #vanish | Aug 08 17:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Excellent, the #youtube playlist player autoplays again | Aug 08 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 8/8/2011: Many New Games, Reviews http://ur1.ca/4vct7 !techrights | Aug 08 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 8/8/2011: Many New Games, Reviews http://ur1.ca/4vct7 #techrights | Aug 08 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apple sued over OS X fast boot, could be tied to !Android patent war • by Matthew Panzarino http://goo.gl/C3JqU | Aug 08 17:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Rating agencies are part of the corruption problem. Corruption is beyond the control of the once in 5 year voter. | Aug 08 17:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] The Circle of Pain: When you fall asleep funny because you have a #headache, then wake up with a #neckache because you slept funny | Aug 08 17:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] The Circle of Pain: When you fall asleep funny because you have a #headache, then wake up with a #neckache because you slep funny | Aug 08 17:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Windows Phone 7 sales falling fast TG Daily • by Raven Lovecraft http://goo.gl/dOruX | Aug 08 17:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] When Writers Meltdown from Renée Schuls-Jacobson: http://is.gd/R2U40e #MyWANA #amwriting Great stuff! | Aug 08 17:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Deploy Hadoop in a few commands with Ubuntu Ensemble - see the screencast: http://is.gd/VSLfMl #ubuntu #cloud #hadoop | Aug 08 17:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] In Praise of the World Wide Web, Openness and Sharing, by @glynmoody (Open Enterprise) | http://bit.ly/rdu2DW | Aug 08 17:57 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/77925550#notice-80536090 | Aug 08 17:59 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80536090 | Aug 08 17:59 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Joel Adamson (trashbird1240)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 16:36:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz When the best option was Unix, all the hardware makers had their own Unix, next they'll all have their own #GNU/Linux | Aug 08 17:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The Six Best Linux Community Server #Distributions: http://bit.ly/qXZoDs #linux #gnu #software #microsoft #windows | Aug 08 18:02 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/80536090 | Aug 08 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Joel Adamson (trashbird1240)'s status on Monday, 08-Aug-11 16:36:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz When the best option was Unix, all the hardware makers had their own Unix, next they'll all have their own #GNU/Linux | Aug 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | "Both companies have filed their arguments, with Oracle putting the case for exposing the email, while Google argues that it is privileged communication. The letter detailing both sides has been helpfully uploaded by Florian Mueller of FOSS Patents, but basically Google argues that the text was a client-attorney communication, while Oracle claims that's bollocks." | Aug 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/08/google_oracle_java/ | Aug 08 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google fights to hide incriminating emails • The Register .::. Size~: 25.67 KB | Aug 08 18:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @silner Windows Phone 7 sales falling fast TG Daily • by Raven Lovecraft http://goo.gl/dOruX | Aug 08 18:04 | |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft still uses Florian | Aug 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | their pR agency must be giving him documents to smear Googlr with | Aug 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | like in the case of turbohercules | Aug 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | What a snake this guy is | Aug 08 18:04 |
| schestowitz | lobbying for Microsoft, a convicted monopolist | Aug 08 18:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So 25 million google plus users got 150 invites each to spend. If they all succeed, it will result in 3,750 million goo... http://b1t.it/uQc | Aug 08 18:07 | |
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| Snit | So the fact he lobbies for MS is what makes him bad in your view? | Aug 08 18:09 |
| ender_33 | Snit - no reply from rms | Aug 08 18:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] need #caffeine for once... | Aug 08 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | I saw how you asked that | Aug 08 18:15 |
| schestowitz | He assumed you to be hostile | Aug 08 18:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Patent Troll Lawyers Smacked Down, Made To Pay Sanctions, For Mass Lawsuits Followed By Quick Settlement Offers - http://bit.ly/nNpVkx | Aug 08 18:16 | |
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| schestowitz | AFAIK, he generally promoted freedom in political parties | Aug 08 18:16 |
| schestowitz | let voters decide | Aug 08 18:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Grava carență de moralitate http://tinyurl.com/439np3z #romania #monarchy #radu | Aug 08 18:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] About the Freedom in the “cloud” http://is.gd/4B0guo #SaaS #freedom #cloud | Aug 08 18:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] The Comment Wars http://bit.ly/nP8xXt #mono #Windows #linux #blogging | Aug 08 18:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Extended Deadline for Demoparty Competition https://mozillalabs.com/blog/2011/08/extended-deadline-aug-14th-demoparty-competition/ | Aug 08 18:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fuck poor people the bankers love bit, | Aug 08 18:27 | |
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| schestowitz | wb, Ziomatrix | Aug 08 18:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fuck poor people there is no money in them. | Aug 08 18:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] TLWIR 12: Libreoffice 3.4.2, NASA, and the Asus X101 http://tinyurl.com/3owntqc #libreoffice #nasa #asus #gnu #linux #microsoft #romania | Aug 08 18:34 | |
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| ender_33 | schestowitz - I asked it very nicely | Aug 08 18:34 |
| schestowitz | what you pasted here was impolite | Aug 08 18:36 |
| ender_33 | how polite are you wtih someone who peddles pedophilia? | Aug 08 18:36 |
| schestowitz | he did not peddle pedophelia afaik | Aug 08 18:37 |
| ender_33 | right | Aug 08 18:37 |
| schestowitz | If he did, she how, cause people took some remarks out of context | Aug 08 18:37 |
| schestowitz | When I got back online I saw some links to his blog | Aug 08 18:38 |
| schestowitz | He has been consistent on this | Aug 08 18:38 |
| ender_33 | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2006-may-aug.html#05 | Aug 08 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | It's not pro-pedophilia | Aug 08 18:38 |
| ender_33 | "I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms | Aug 08 18:38 |
| ender_33 | children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases | Aug 08 18:38 |
| ender_33 | which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are | Aug 08 18:38 |
| ender_33 | horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing" | Aug 08 18:38 |
| schestowitz | I see what he wrote | Aug 08 18:38 |
| ender_33 | oh it is when its voluntary | Aug 08 18:38 |
| schestowitz | it's not what you say it is | Aug 08 18:38 |
| ender_33 | hes pro voluntary-pedophilia | Aug 08 18:39 |
| schestowitz | RMS is vry consistent about .. say 15 year oids having sex | Aug 08 18:39 |
| schestowitz | It's not about toddlers and stuff | Aug 08 18:39 |
| ender_33 | children are less than 12 | Aug 08 18:39 |
| schestowitz | maybe your imagination makes it tilt it this way | Aug 08 18:39 |
| ender_33 | teenagers are more than 13 | Aug 08 18:39 |
| schestowitz | he speaks of older people a lot | Aug 08 18:39 |
| schestowitz | I saw some entries last year | Aug 08 18:39 |
| schestowitz | about the criminalisation of kids in school having consentual sex | Aug 08 18:40 |
| ender_33 | so its not wrong to bribe a 15 year old with money for sex? | Aug 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | and if the Dutch oparty did promote pedophilia, it would be perhaps arrested | Aug 08 18:40 |
| ender_33 | that would get you consensual sex with a 15 year old | Aug 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | I don't know what they do though | Aug 08 18:40 |
| schestowitz | some people pay older women for sex | Aug 08 18:41 |
| ender_33 | they were openly promoting decriminalization of child porn | Aug 08 18:41 |
| ender_33 | look at the article rms linked | Aug 08 18:41 |
| schestowitz | The issue of age here is what you take indiscriminately, pretending RMS advocates sex among kids | Aug 08 18:41 |
| schestowitz | he never said anything like this | Aug 08 18:41 |
| ender_33 | http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=3&art_id=qw1148983921965B233 | Aug 08 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Ot's fiction and you had people in this channel think otherwise | Aug 08 18:42 |
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| schestowitz | I saw people shocked by claimed about him that are untrue | Aug 08 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Like the "stallman sexist" thing | Aug 08 18:42 |
| schestowitz | From David the Dildo merchant | Aug 08 18:42 |
| ender_33 | did I offend Jesus' followers? | Aug 08 18:42 |
| Snit | rms is a man without morals, a man who encourages schools to call porn "educational" material and make it available for students. | Aug 08 18:42 |
| schestowitz | [18:41] <ender_33> look at the article rms linked | Aug 08 18:42 |
| schestowitz | it's not him writing the article | Aug 08 18:43 |
| Snit | This does not mean he has done no good... but he, as a man, is repulsive | Aug 08 18:43 |
| schestowitz | kids get exposed t porn anyway | Aug 08 18:43 |
| schestowitz | But that's beside the point | Aug 08 18:43 |
| Snit | Schestowitz: you shun all things MS because of their past monopoly... but you do not shun all things rms because of his perversions | Aug 08 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Where did RMS sau what you say he did? | Aug 08 18:43 |
| ender_33 | schestowitz you use the same quality of evidence against so-called 'microsoft agents' all the time | Aug 08 18:43 |
| Snit | That is no reason to make it available in schools and call it educational material | Aug 08 18:44 |
| schestowitz | Where does he .. | Aug 08 18:44 |
| schestowitz | "encourages schools to call porn "educational" material and make it available for students." | Aug 08 18:44 |
| Snit | Let me pull up the quote | Aug 08 18:44 |
| Snit | quotes | Aug 08 18:44 |
| schestowitz | porn is aleady in school | Aug 08 18:44 |
| schestowitz | But they call it art | Aug 08 18:44 |
| schestowitz | Remember that rich people's porn they just spin as "Art" | Aug 08 18:45 |
| ender_33 | porn isn't anywhere near art | Aug 08 18:45 |
| schestowitz | And put up in museum:" | Aug 08 18:45 |
| schestowitz | *museums | Aug 08 18:45 |
| schestowitz | Same with forms of drugs | Aug 08 18:45 |
| schestowitz | One they call champagne | Aug 08 18:45 |
| schestowitz | And the other "Crack" | Aug 08 18:45 |
| schestowitz | And then they wage class wars using associations | Aug 08 18:45 |
| schestowitz | some forms of pr0n are called "Art" | Aug 08 18:45 |
| schestowitz | And then you have all the cartoonish things in Japan | Aug 08 18:45 |
| Snit | Internet filtering in schools blocks access to educational materials. While that article focuses on blockage of the educational materials that prudes would admit, porn is also very important for education. Blocking adolescents' access to porn, or keeping them ignorant of sex in any way, is likely to stunt their emotional growth and make them vulnerable to mistakes that can hurt them badly. | Aug 08 18:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Linux empowers computer laboratories at schools ! http://tinyurl.com/3salzra #education #gnu #linux #software #windows #microsoft | Aug 08 18:46 | |
| ender_33 | schestowitz, snit - what the industry calls porn is nothing but the result of childhood sexual abuse with very few in it really because they enjoy it | Aug 08 18:46 |
| schestowitz | It's a borderline thing | Aug 08 18:46 |
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| Snit | And: Don't be fooled by the excuse. Censorship laws are more dangerous to a democratic society than any pornography could ever be. | Aug 08 18:46 |
| schestowitz | And some people start calling drawn pr0n illegal | Aug 08 18:46 |
| schestowitz | you need to think outside the box a bit | Aug 08 18:46 |
| Snit | ender: I used to live in Las Vegas and knew - and still know - a number of women in the porn industry to one extent or another. | Aug 08 18:46 |
| schestowitz | This is how class wars work | Aug 08 18:47 |
| Snit | They see it quite differnetly | Aug 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | This is whyrich people don't have laws apply to them | Aug 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Whereas hungry shoplifers go to prison | Aug 08 18:47 |
| Snit | Schestowitz: outside the box... and allow porn in schools and call it "educational". No. That is absurd. | Aug 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | you seem unable to grasp he fact that laws are biased and views are too | Aug 08 18:47 |
| Snit | This has nothing to do with rich vs. poor nor hungry shoplifters. | Aug 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | [18:46] <Snit> ender: I used to live in Las Vegas and knew - and still know - a number of women in the porn industry to one extent or another. | Aug 08 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Maybe are drawn to it by prior abuse | Aug 08 18:48 |
| Snit | This has to do with making porn available to kids. In schools. And calling it educational. | Aug 08 18:48 |
| schestowitz | They may feel impure due to bad experience or incest | Aug 08 18:48 |
| schestowitz | So they just don't give a damn and may also seek revenge against the offender | Aug 08 18:48 |
| schestowitz | People who grow up the average way cannot fathom the shame | Aug 08 18:48 |
| Snit | we can make up stories about these folks I know all day... but I have no desire. | Aug 08 18:48 |
| schestowitz | let me pose another scanrio for you | Aug 08 18:49 |
| Snit | Do not get me wrong - some do fit that stereotype... but many do not | Aug 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Why do you think people are clothed? | Aug 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Hygience? | Aug 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Security from obstructions? | Aug 08 18:49 |
| Snit | Schestowitz: as you leave behind the topic of rms's perversions... sure... pose questions all you like | Aug 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz | No animal, even domiesticated, gets dressed up | Aug 08 18:49 |
| schestowitz | And remember that the main 'feature' of porn is the lack of clothes | Aug 08 18:50 |
| Snit | we wear clothing because it is the societal norm. It is not a grand conspiracy. | Aug 08 18:50 |
| Snit | no, the main feature of porn is sexuality - not just a lack of clothing. | Aug 08 18:50 |
| schestowitz | when did this become a socital norm? | Aug 08 18:50 |
| ender_33 | schestowitz - you're missing the point, its not the nude part of porn thats the issue | Aug 08 18:50 |
| schestowitz | And BTW, in some tribes it's not the norm | Aug 08 18:50 |
| schestowitz | In fact, dressing up there would be considered abnormal | Aug 08 18:50 |
| Snit | But I am not interested in getting into a debate over why we wear clothing or what to call porn... the fact is RMS encourages it to be in schools... and to call it educational. | Aug 08 18:50 |
| ender_33 | schestowitz - we're not advocating banning nudity in education | Aug 08 18:51 |
| schestowitz | I am trying to show you you are biased by the environment | Aug 08 18:51 |
| schestowitz | To make a point | Aug 08 18:51 |
| Snit | The man is a pervert. I have provided many other quotes that show this. | Aug 08 18:51 |
| ender_33 | porn isn't just about people being naked | Aug 08 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Not to say I endorse streaking or whatever | Aug 08 18:51 |
| Snit | Yeah... biased: I do not want kids to be abused. Oh well | Aug 08 18:51 |
| ender_33 | its about people having pleasure sex in very graphic detail | Aug 08 18:51 |
| schestowitz | although if it's a well-gited girl, I might endorse the streaking :-) | Aug 08 18:51 |
| Snit | Oh, and "anyone" should be able to have sex with a willing 15 year old... | Aug 08 18:51 |
| Snit | rms "It is absurd to punish anyone for having sex with someone of age 15 — it is normal for Americans of age 15 to have sex." | Aug 08 18:51 |
| Snit | The man needs to be investigated. | Aug 08 18:52 |
| schestowitz | we're not talking about kids now | Aug 08 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Don't mix the two | Aug 08 18:52 |
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| ender_33 | but rms uses the word children | Aug 08 18:52 |
| ender_33 | children by defition is under 12 | Aug 08 18:52 |
| schestowitz | And RMS usually speaks about it on the context of two young adolescent\ having sex | Aug 08 18:52 |
| Snit | Schestowitz: in the end, you are making excuses for rms and his vile claims posted on his own site as you vilify all things MS based on some past shady business dealings. | Aug 08 18:52 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK it's not a crime in the US | Aug 08 18:53 |
| schestowitz | although frowned upon depending on the state | Aug 08 18:53 |
| Snit | Ok, so children = those under 12. RMS "I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing." | Aug 08 18:53 |
| Snit | repulsive. | Aug 08 18:53 |
| Snit | The man is grotesque | Aug 08 18:53 |
| ender_33 | if someone is ever employed by microsoft in their life and they link an article, its pro microsoft bias and they're on the payroll still | Aug 08 18:53 |
| ender_33 | but rms does it, and its nothing | Aug 08 18:53 |
| schestowitz | I read it again | Aug 08 18:54 |
| schestowitz | Exlain how thet endorse pedophelia | Aug 08 18:54 |
| Snit | And you, Roy, make excuses for him as you vilify all things MS. It is an *extreme* bias on your part... completely indefendable. | Aug 08 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | Remember he;'s not mentioneing kids | Aug 08 18:54 |
| schestowitz | When he says "little baby" it's a metaphor | Aug 08 18:54 |
| ender_33 | I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing. | Aug 08 18:54 |
| ender_33 | children | Aug 08 18:55 |
| ender_33 | children = kids | Aug 08 18:55 |
| Snit | brb | Aug 08 18:55 |
| schestowitz | Ah, I see now | Aug 08 18:55 |
| schestowitz | SO what he says is that he does not believe this correlation | Aug 08 18:55 |
| Snit | OK, back... let me read | Aug 08 18:55 |
| schestowitz | He might be right in that it does not corelate just as violent video games do not necessarily cause violent. It needs to actually be proven | Aug 08 18:56 |
| Snit | RMS: The way to protect children from being used to make porn is to punish those who are involved in the distribution business together with those who make porn using real children. | Aug 08 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Today I saw an article about the maker of doom adfressing this point | Aug 08 18:56 |
| Snit | I mean, really... how can you defend this scum? | Aug 08 18:56 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't endorse it there, he makes a claim like "IE users are egnerally dumber" | Aug 08 18:56 |
| schestowitz | [18:56] <Snit> RMS: The way to protect children from being used to make porn is to punish those who are involved in the distribution business together with those who make porn using real children. | Aug 08 18:57 |
| schestowitz | yes | Aug 08 18:57 |
| schestowitz | to remove the incentive | Aug 08 18:57 |
| schestowitz | t0 illegalise is not enough | Aug 08 18:57 |
| schestowitz | People will take this underground | Aug 08 18:57 |
| schestowitz | They need to eliminate it by removing the incentive | Aug 08 18:57 |
| Snit | But he does not want to prevent it ... censor it. So it should be legal in his mind. | Aug 08 18:57 |
| schestowitz | This is the same as the drug wars, where they only increase the value of drugs by doing what they do | Aug 08 18:57 |
| Snit | Which is enough to make him a very, very scary man. One who should be investigated. | Aug 08 18:57 |
| schestowitz | they need to damped this sick industry | Aug 08 18:58 |
| schestowitz | and the way to do it is not to drive it underground where it onlu makes the monsters richer | Aug 08 18:58 |
| schestowitz | there's this joke about drug lords loving the war on drugs | Aug 08 18:58 |
| schestowitz | It ups their prices | Aug 08 18:58 |
| schestowitz | [18:57] <Snit> But he does not want to prevent it ... censor it. So it should be legal in his mind. | Aug 08 18:58 |
| Snit | What is clear is you will defend rms on all of this... no matter how perverted. Tapes could come out of him raping babies (I am not saying he does) and you would defend him... as you vilify MS for some business practices from a decade or more ago. | Aug 08 18:58 |
| schestowitz | You leap to unbacked claim | Aug 08 18:59 |
| Snit | What claim? | Aug 08 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Why would RMS think that? I very strongly doubt it | Aug 08 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Some people would read whatI type here as though it's outragous | Aug 08 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Just because I make observations | Aug 08 18:59 |
| Snit | So he wants it to be illegal you think? Even though he says kids should be able to watch it in schools? No.... | Aug 08 18:59 |
| schestowitz | It's like religious and nationalist zealoits who reject particular claims based on what they would imply rather than their truth | Aug 08 18:59 |
| ender_33 | he gave attention to a political party that wants the legal age 12 and then gone completely | Aug 08 19:00 |
| Snit | Why make it illegal to make "educational material"... that is what porn is in his view | Aug 08 19:00 |
| Snit | He is a sick man | Aug 08 19:00 |
| schestowitz | RMS does not want to be bullied into not being sceptical of something whose nature is not understood. Like asking for proof that global warming is real.. | Aug 08 19:00 |
| schestowitz | These days it can get one flagged a "k00k" | Aug 08 19:00 |
| schestowitz | And receive no funding | Aug 08 19:00 |
| Snit | As noted: you will defend rms no matter what. | Aug 08 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Had this long conversation with someone last month... the worse thing to do is play the game of labelling RMS a pedophile apologist just because he dares to question some claims | Aug 08 19:01 |
| ender_33 | he doesnt consider 'children' are just as easily bribed as politicians? | Aug 08 19:01 |
| Snit | But speaking of unbacked claims, did you ever find a quote from me to back your claim I judged KDE based on screenshots and videos? | Aug 08 19:01 |
| schestowitz | And the copyright cartel uses those tactics too | Aug 08 19:01 |
| Snit | Keep in mind, http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/ is my site. | Aug 08 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 08 19:01 |
| schestowitz | 'If you reject this copyriught law, you are a pedophile" | Aug 08 19:01 |
| Snit | Or did you want to agree to let that go until next month when I ask you about it on the show? | Aug 08 19:01 |
| Snit | Gives you time to find quotes, etc. | Aug 08 19:02 |
| ender_33 | this is your own mind battling schestowitz | Aug 08 19:02 |
| schestowitz | not really | Aug 08 19:02 |
| Snit | Roy is doing all he can to defend RMS and his repulsive claims. It is rather sickening. | Aug 08 19:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Is economic collapse good for Linux? http://tinyurl.com/4yoh3fl #gnu #linux #romania #software | Aug 08 19:02 | |
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| schestowitz | I too come under fire from zealots to whom just questioning X means I am Y | Aug 08 19:02 |
| ender_33 | 'he fights for abolishing copyright law' he must be good. 'he fights for the rights of pedophiles' - does not compute, goto 1 - he must be good | Aug 08 19:02 |
| Snit | Only RMS speaks of "voluntarily pedophilia" | Aug 08 19:03 |
| schestowitz | They are fed those defenses by the zealot-hoarders | Aug 08 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Examples | Aug 08 19:03 |
| Snit | By its very nature, pedophilia is not a "voluntary" act by a child. | Aug 08 19:03 |
| Snit | It is abuse by an adult. | Aug 08 19:03 |
| schestowitz | "If you question copyright studies, you're a pirate" | Aug 08 19:03 |
| Snit | This has nothing to do with copyright | Aug 08 19:03 |
| schestowitz | "If you oppose the war in iraw, you're a terrorist" | Aug 08 19:03 |
| Snit | You do love to change topics... | Aug 08 19:03 |
| schestowitz | "If you hate what bankers do, you're an anti-Semite" | Aug 08 19:03 |
| Snit | Nobody is saying those things, Roy. | Aug 08 19:04 |
| schestowitz | "If you oppose Islam, you're a Nazi{" | Aug 08 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Those sorts of games people play to suppress sceptics | Aug 08 19:04 |
| ender_33 | he does that all the time, tacks on arguments of other people and pretends you made them | Aug 08 19:04 |
| ender_33 | he did it earlier | Aug 08 19:04 |
| Snit | Are these things you believe, Roy? Or whom? Or are you just spewing bizarre claims? | Aug 08 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Then there's the pedo ones | Aug 08 19:04 |
| Snit | Who is suppressing skeptics? | Aug 08 19:04 |
| schestowitz | They make any doubt so objectionable to the point where the messenger is assumed to have molested kids | Aug 08 19:05 |
| Snit | Heck, nobody is saying RMS has even broken any laws... but his comments rise to the level where he should be investigated. He clearly has perverted ideas in terms of sex and children. | Aug 08 19:05 |
| schestowitz | you too have made it sound like RMS has sexual interest in kids | Aug 08 19:05 |
| ender_33 | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/apologist | Aug 08 19:05 |
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| ender_33 | a person who makes a defense in speech or writing of a belief, idea, etc. | Aug 08 19:05 |
| schestowitz | Merely because of statements where he expresses an opinion/makes an observatiomn | Aug 08 19:05 |
| Snit | He sure as heck excuses such. | Aug 08 19:05 |
| schestowitz | So you deny though | Aug 08 19:05 |
| Snit | And talks about how having sex with 15 yr olds should be legal. | Aug 08 19:06 |
| schestowitz | thought being expressed | Aug 08 19:06 |
| ender_33 | did he not make a defense for dutch pedophiles? | Aug 08 19:06 |
| schestowitz | remember that saying "man are cousins of apes" would imply things too | Aug 08 19:06 |
| schestowitz | e.g. that you are inhumane | Aug 08 19:06 |
| schestowitz | You no longer can hear about resarch on brain sizes of differenr races | Aug 08 19:06 |
| schestowitz | As they would valiate racists | Aug 08 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Even if it's accurate | Aug 08 19:06 |
| Snit | So, yes, he makes it appear as though he may very well have a sexual interest in kids. May. It is worth investigating - but, more importantly, investigate if he has abused kids. | Aug 08 19:06 |
| ender_33 | schestowitz - this is direct pro-voluntary-pedohpilia and its apologism | Aug 08 19:07 |
| schestowitz | So that reearch got buried and suppressed when we become "civilised" | Aug 08 19:07 |
| Snit | Schestowitz: you are going way off topic. And trying to make connections where there are none. | Aug 08 19:07 |
| Snit | But, as noted, you will *always* defend RMS. No matter what. | Aug 08 19:07 |
| schestowitz | [19:06] <Snit> And talks about how having sex with 15 yr olds should be legal. | Aug 08 19:07 |
| schestowitz | who? | Aug 08 19:07 |
| schestowitz | RMS? | Aug 08 19:07 |
| schestowitz | No | Aug 08 19:07 |
| Snit | Yes. As quoted. | Aug 08 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | He said that if kids of that age wish to have sex, maybe it's OK | Aug 08 19:07 |
| Snit | It is absurd to punish anyone for having sex with someone of age 15 — it is normal for Americans of age 15 to have sex. | Aug 08 19:07 |
| Snit | No, he said it is Ok for anyone to have sex with them. Anyone. | Aug 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | On this I agree and many US states do too... if both partners are around the same age and it's consentual | Aug 08 19:08 |
| ender_33 | he didnt say if both partners were the same age | Aug 08 19:08 |
| Snit | Anyone. Do you know what that means? It does not mean "about the same age" | Aug 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | I have friends who were in the position of losing their virginity before turning 18, it's not unusual | Aug 08 19:08 |
| Snit | You are making that up to defend him. | Aug 08 19:08 |
| Snit | So what? | Aug 08 19:08 |
| Snit | Read the quote: It is absurd to punish anyone for having sex with someone of age 15 — it is normal for Americans of age 15 to have sex. | Aug 08 19:08 |
| schestowitz | [19:08] <Snit> No, he said it is Ok for anyone to have sex with them. Anyone. | Aug 08 19:09 |
| schestowitz | LINK? | Aug 08 19:09 |
| schestowitz | I never saw him make such a statement | Aug 08 19:09 |
| ender_33 | It is absurd to punish *anyone* for having sex with some of age 15 - it is normal for Americans of age 15 to have sex. | Aug 08 19:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Follow the money. Kill millions of poor people it doe not a matter a bit. | Aug 08 19:09 | |
| Snit | Now tell me the author of that quote, an adult man well over the age of 15, is not looking at 15 years olds in inappropriate ways... and *maybe* has abused some. Maybe. Again, not saying he has... but there is reason to investigate. Esp. when you look at the rest of his quotes. | Aug 08 19:09 |
| schestowitz | got a link for that thing you put there? | Aug 08 19:10 |
| Snit | stallman.org | Aug 08 19:10 |
| schestowitz | link | Aug 08 19:10 |
| Snit | Here is the list of quotes from his site (and one more quote, noted where it came from): http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/StallmanQuotes.txt | Aug 08 19:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting text/plain; charset=UTF-8 type | Aug 08 19:10 |
| schestowitz | first you need to establish whether he said it | Aug 08 19:10 |
| Snit | Notice it is on my site... :) | Aug 08 19:10 |
| schestowitz | If he did, I disagree with him | Aug 08 19:10 |
| schestowitz | But it does not make him a monster | Aug 08 19:10 |
| Snit | Do you want me to do a quick search of stallman.org and find the quote there for you? | Aug 08 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Just as tribes that walk around naked in south American and where incest is very common are probably not the main problem this world has | Aug 08 19:11 |
| ender_33 | oh god Snit | Aug 08 19:11 |
| Snit | It does not make him a monster - but it may very well indicate he is one. And he should be investigated for it. | Aug 08 19:11 |
| ender_33 | Snit is that true about necrophilia? | Aug 08 19:11 |
| schestowitz | No, he should not | Aug 08 19:11 |
| Snit | Yes. All of those quotes are on his site (except the last one, as noted) | Aug 08 19:11 |
| schestowitz | He does express an opinion | Aug 08 19:11 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't do anything illegal | Aug 08 19:11 |
| schestowitz | In know people who say more outragous things | Aug 08 19:12 |
| Snit | Go to http://stallman.org/ and do a search for any of those quotes | Aug 08 19:12 |
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| ender_33 | schestowitz - sounds like he does and just tries to make it legal | Aug 08 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Like inccitement for violent that actually harms people very physically | Aug 08 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Snit: I can't just do a search, give exact quote | Aug 08 19:12 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise you might be fabricating a quote for all I know | Aug 08 19:12 |
| schestowitz | You didn't even put quote around it | Aug 08 19:12 |
| Snit | The one Roy wanted: http://stallman.org/archives/2008-may-aug.html | Aug 08 19:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2008: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 358.42 KB | Aug 08 19:12 |
| schestowitz | If you pasted it, you're have a URL | Aug 08 19:12 |
| Snit | None of those quotes are "fabricated". As noted, look them up on his site. | Aug 08 19:13 |
| Snit | I gave you the link to the one you asked for. | Aug 08 19:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Obaidullah Rahimi faces deportation to Afghanistan although he does not even speak the language. | Aug 08 19:13 |
| schestowitz | It is absurd to punish anyone for having sex with someone of age 15 — it is normal for Americans of age 15 to have sex. But even if he had committed a real crime, such as robbery, for which punishment is appropriate, deporting someone who arrived in the US so young is absurd. | Aug 08 19:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Now we see it in context | Aug 08 19:13 |
| schestowitz | You slimy snake :-) | Aug 08 19:13 |
| ender_33 | ?? | Aug 08 19:13 |
| Snit | Roy is in full rms defense mode | Aug 08 19:13 |
| schestowitz | He uses that as means of comparison | Aug 08 19:13 |
| ender_33 | oh no! he removed the first sentence | Aug 08 19:14 |
| schestowitz | ANd I don't agree with him | Aug 08 19:14 |
| Snit | Like any cult member would be. :) | Aug 08 19:14 |
| schestowitz | But I can see what the context is | Aug 08 19:14 |
| ender_33 | what context? | Aug 08 19:14 |
| schestowitz | [19:13] <Snit> Roy is in full rms defense mode | Aug 08 19:14 |
| schestowitz | My quotes too get pulled out of context | Aug 08 19:14 |
| Snit | Actually I did not remove the first sentence. I quoted the full paragraph from the site. I mean, sure, I could have posted the whole frickin' page. | Aug 08 19:14 |
| schestowitz | ANd pulled into titles | Aug 08 19:14 |
| schestowitz | To deamonise me | Aug 08 19:14 |
| schestowitz | And this is what you do to RMS right now | Aug 08 19:14 |
| schestowitz | Quote mining and misrepresenting | Aug 08 19:15 |
| ender_33 | hes defending someone accused of pedophilia by advocating pedophilia | Aug 08 19:15 |
| Snit | How about your quote where you claimed I said I knew KDE from screenshots and videos. Oh, you just made that one up. :) | Aug 08 19:15 |
| ender_33 | he should have left that in | Aug 08 19:15 |
| ender_33 | its worse | Aug 08 19:15 |
| schestowitz | ANd later some people in this channel are appalled, for they are shown semi-truths and ommissions that achieve the required daemonisation | Aug 08 19:15 |
| Snit | I am quoting a man who represents himself as a pervert... and you are defending him. | Aug 08 19:15 |
| schestowitz | [19:15] <ender_33> hes defending someone accused of pedophilia by advocating pedophilia | Aug 08 19:15 |
| Snit | As you always will - he is rms. | Aug 08 19:15 |
| schestowitz | A man who had sex with a 15 year old is illegal | Aug 08 19:15 |
| schestowitz | I'd hardly call it pedophelia | Aug 08 19:15 |
| Snit | If Bill Gates said anything 1/10th as bad you would demonize him. | Aug 08 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Some 15 year olds are more physically matuyre than 20 year old ones | Aug 08 19:16 |
| schestowitz | An observation that RMS made repeatedly befoire | Aug 08 19:16 |
| ender_33 | if Bill Gates said the same thing | Aug 08 19:16 |
| Snit | This is completely clear to anyone not so tied up in your bias as to not be able to see right from wrong. | Aug 08 19:16 |
| schestowitz | This is called underage sex | Aug 08 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Not pedophelia | Aug 08 19:16 |
| Snit | roy: who cares about who is more or less mature. rms says nothing about that. | Aug 08 19:16 |
| schestowitz | And even in the US, some of the pertinent rules are questioned | Aug 08 19:16 |
| ender_33 | TECHRIGHTS: MICROSOFT ADVOCATES PEDOPHELIA - GATES IS A PEDOPHILE APOLOGIST | Aug 08 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Like, in some state if you're 20 with a 27 year old g/f | Aug 08 19:16 |
| Snit | You are looking for fringe cases to defend him. | Aug 08 19:16 |
| schestowitz | 17 | Aug 08 19:16 |
| schestowitz | not 27 | Aug 08 19:16 |
| schestowitz | and they waste jail space for consensual sex among such couples | Aug 08 19:17 |
| Snit | Go right ahead looking for fringe cases to defend rms's perverted claims | Aug 08 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Instead of lockin up people from criminal banks for example | Aug 08 19:17 |
| Snit | It just shows how far you will go to defend him. | Aug 08 19:17 |
| schestowitz | No | Aug 08 19:17 |
| Snit | He is a grotesque man. | Aug 08 19:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Yo! The Brogrammer! http://www.quora.com/How-does-a-programmer-become-a-brogrammer | Aug 08 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | I show how badly people want to smear him | Aug 08 19:17 |
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| schestowitz | And sometimes they get away with it | Aug 08 19:17 |
| ender_33 | Here is the real conspiracy, why haven't the newspapers picked up on RMS's pedophilia | Aug 08 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Like the whole sexistgate | Aug 08 19:18 |
| ender_33 | you would think Microsoft ZDNET would jump at it | Aug 08 19:18 |
| Snit | I have no desire to "smear" him. Heck, when I first found references to his perversions I defended the man and doubted they were true. | Aug 08 19:18 |
| Snit | But you want to see any who speak poorly of his perversions as "smearing" him. That is absurd | Aug 08 19:18 |
| schestowitz | It's not hard to do what they do to potray him as monsters cause he doesn't self-censor like some Forbes 100 managers | Aug 08 19:18 |
| schestowitz | So he leaves loads of ammo around for people to try to quote-mine | Aug 08 19:18 |
| Snit | He portrays himself that way... do not make it sound like others have done it to him | Aug 08 19:18 |
| ender_33 | he just leaves stuff around for people to use against him | Aug 08 19:19 |
| ender_33 | thats intelligent | Aug 08 19:19 |
| Snit | My goodness - he wants porn available in schools and wants to call it educational material | Aug 08 19:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Cray CTO Scott departs (Register): http://bit.ly/p9VlhT | Aug 08 19:19 | |
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| Snit | That is freakin' grotesque. | Aug 08 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Snit: link? | Aug 08 19:19 |
| Snit | And when faced with that, you just excused it and said teens have access to porn anyway | Aug 08 19:19 |
| schestowitz | [19:19] <Snit> My goodness - he wants porn available in schools and wants to call it educational material | Aug 08 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Sounds bogus | Aug 08 19:19 |
| ender_33 | lets show the grade 5 class debbie does dallas | Aug 08 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Show context, quote, link | Aug 08 19:19 |
| Snit | As if since teens have access to drugs we might as well hand them out. | Aug 08 19:20 |
| schestowitz | Let us assess | Aug 08 19:20 |
| schestowitz | [19:19] <ender_33> lets show the grade 5 class debbie does dallas | Aug 08 19:20 |
| schestowitz | RMS did not say it | Aug 08 19:20 |
| Snit | All from his site. | Aug 08 19:20 |
| Snit | As I have noted. | Aug 08 19:20 |
| schestowitz | So again, appeal to emotion | Aug 08 19:20 |
| schestowitz | to defame a person | Aug 08 19:20 |
| Snit | That quote: http://stallman.org/archives/2010-mar-jun.html | Aug 08 19:20 |
| ender_33 | I would like to see RMS defend himself | Aug 08 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | "RMS wants to show your kid pr0n at school!! THe fiend!" | Aug 08 19:20 |
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| Snit | Poor RMS... being "defamed" for posting perverted claims on his site... | Aug 08 19:21 |
| schestowitz | "ICANN is setting up a domain .xxx for pornography, playing into the hands of plans for censorship." | Aug 08 19:21 |
| Snit | Poor guy | Aug 08 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Right.. | Aug 08 19:21 |
| schestowitz | The copyright industry uses it | Aug 08 19:21 |
| schestowitz | !google copyright lobby we love child porn | Aug 08 19:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Copyright Lobby Absolutely Loves Child Pornography | TorrentFreak | http://torrentfreak.com/the-copyright-lobby-absolutely-loves-child-pornography-110709/ | Aug 08 19:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - The Copyright Lobby Absolutely Loves Child Pornography ... | http://www.informationliberation.com/%3Fid%3D35884 | Aug 08 19:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Copyright Lobby Absolutely Loves Child Pornography - Digg | http://digg.com/news/technology/the_copyright_lobby_absolutely_loves_child_pornography | Aug 08 19:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Copyright Lobby Absolutely Loves Child Pornography | Oz ... | http://www.ozconspiracyhouse.org/frontend/2011/07/10/the-copyright-lobby-absolutely-loves-child-pornography/ | Aug 08 19:21 |
| ender_33 | I wonder how RMS would defend and back up his pedophilia apologism | Aug 08 19:21 |
| Snit | It would be great if you could censor porn from schools and therefore allow adults to have access more easily in their homes. I am all for that. | Aug 08 19:21 |
| schestowitz | "Australia has imposed searches on laptops of travellers and demands they all declare whether they have "pornography". It will be hard for them even to know the answer. Worse, it is an opportunity for further government censorship." | Aug 08 19:21 |
| schestowitz | "But the way this is phrased, its impact is not limited to Muslim women. It attacks the rights of everyone that may want to be anonymous on the street; for instance, while protesting. Just as terrorists and pornography are used as excuses for censorship, surveillance, and other repressive measures, Islamic veils are the excuse to ban any resistance to the total surveillance state." | Aug 08 19:22 |
| schestowitz | "Faux News attacked Wikipedia for hosting "pornography", and Wikipedia's administrators reacted in panic with self-censorship." | Aug 08 19:22 |
| schestowitz | This page is full of him saying rational things about pr0n | Aug 08 19:22 |
| Snit | My above link is bad: http://stallman.org/archives/2010-jan-apr.html | Aug 08 19:22 |
| schestowitz | And how it's misused | Aug 08 19:22 |
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| schestowitz | I can't find the claim you alluded yo | Aug 08 19:22 |
| schestowitz | *to | Aug 08 19:22 |
| Snit | roy: why run from the topic? | Aug 08 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I look at the page | Aug 08 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Care to point me? | Aug 08 19:22 |
| ender_33 | its like we're attacking Jesus in a church | Aug 08 19:23 |
| schestowitz | You gave me a link to a massive archive page | Aug 08 19:23 |
| Snit | The topic is not how things can be abused... it is if it would be good to be able to allow adults greater access to porn as you block it from schools and the like. | Aug 08 19:23 |
| schestowitz | Be specific where I should look | Aug 08 19:23 |
| Snit | Do a search on the page. | Aug 08 19:23 |
| schestowitz | To see if RMS advocates showing pr0n at school as "education" | Aug 08 19:23 |
| ender_33 | schesotwitz - CTRL F | Aug 08 19:23 |
| schestowitz | Snit: that's what I do | Aug 08 19:23 |
| ender_33 | search the page | Aug 08 19:23 |
| Snit | About 1/3 down | Aug 08 19:23 |
| ender_33 | Roy needs directions down the rabbit hole | Aug 08 19:24 |
| Snit | On that page: •Internet filtering in schools http://blogs.computerworld.com/15823/how_internet_censorship_harms_schools While that article focuses on blockage of the educational materials that prudes would admit, porn is also very important for education. Blocking adolescents' access to porn, or keeping them ignorant of sex in any way, is likely to stunt their emotional growth and make them vulnerable to mistakes that can hurt them bad | Aug 08 19:24 |
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| Snit | I mean, really... that is grotesque. | Aug 08 19:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 19:24 |
| schestowitz | A Philadelphia school spied on many of students through laptop cameras, not just a few, and has no excuse to offer. If the software in a computer isn't free/libre software, that means someone else controls it — so you can never tell when it is transmitting photos of you, or transmitting audio recordings of you. | Aug 08 19:24 |
| schestowitz | And since cellular phones are computers, this applies to them too. | Aug 08 19:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 08 19:24 |
| Snit | Porn is about fantasy - not education. | Aug 08 19:24 |
| schestowitz | This? | Aug 08 19:24 |
| Snit | Roy - focus. Please! | Aug 08 19:24 |
| schestowitz | There's also the problem of sexting among kids | Aug 08 19:24 |
| Snit | Why talk about sexting? | Aug 08 19:24 |
| schestowitz | No | Aug 08 19:24 |
| schestowitz | You focus | Aug 08 19:24 |
| schestowitz | Give a precide link | Aug 08 19:24 |
| schestowitz | The page you link to is MASSIVE | Aug 08 19:24 |
| ender_33 | stop making excuses roy | Aug 08 19:25 |
| schestowitz | And you don't show where to look | Aug 08 19:25 |
| Snit | Oh, because you have already said you did not believe rms would say what he did... demanded the link. And now you see I was 100% correct. | Aug 08 19:25 |
| schestowitz | Where is the claim? | Aug 08 19:25 |
| ender_33 | whenever you post an article you have a massive page of links and most of them go back to your site | Aug 08 19:25 |
| schestowitz | I search for "School" | Aug 08 19:25 |
| schestowitz | And "porn" | Aug 08 19:25 |
| schestowitz | Can't find what you alluded to | Aug 08 19:25 |
| ender_33 | can't find or won't look? | Aug 08 19:26 |
| Snit | Roy: I cannot help you do a search on the page. | Aug 08 19:26 |
| Snit | http://stallman.org/archives/2010-jan-apr.html | Aug 08 19:26 |
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| schestowitz | search for what phrase? | Aug 08 19:26 |
| Snit | That page. This quote: •Internet filtering in schools http://blogs.computerworld.com/15823/how_internet_censorship_harms_schools While that article focuses on blockage of the educational materials that prudes would admit, porn is also very important for education. Blocking adolescents' access to porn, or keeping them ignorant of sex in any way, is likely to stunt their emotional growth and make them vulnerable to mistakes that can hur | Aug 08 19:26 |
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| Snit | Any phrase you want from that quote. | Aug 08 19:26 |
| ender_33 | pick a random sentence and search | Aug 08 19:26 |
| Snit | For crying out loud... | Aug 08 19:26 |
| schestowitz | Right... | Aug 08 19:26 |
| schestowitz | So you lied about him claims | Aug 08 19:27 |
| ender_33 | LOL | Aug 08 19:27 |
| Snit | Do you need me to make a video on how to do it? | Aug 08 19:27 |
| schestowitz | [19:23] <schestowitz> To see if RMS advocates showing pr0n at school as "education" | Aug 08 19:27 |
| Snit | What browser are you using? I will make a video and show you how to do a search on a page. | Aug 08 19:27 |
| schestowitz | He responds to censorship by making a point | Aug 08 19:27 |
| ender_33 | his point advocated porn in school | Aug 08 19:27 |
| Snit | "porn is also very important for education" | Aug 08 19:27 |
| schestowitz | And many curious adolescent would not be harmed merely *watching* adult p0rn if filters were not in place | Aug 08 19:27 |
| Snit | He said that... but you can deny it all you want. | Aug 08 19:27 |
| Snit | Roy... LOL! | Aug 08 19:28 |
| schestowitz | he didn't say schools should be teaching with pr0n | Aug 08 19:28 |
| schestowitz | And here ends my waste of time with your deffamation of RMS | Aug 08 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Cause you're wasting everyone's time making nonsense claims | Aug 08 19:28 |
| Snit | You really are defending the idea of having porn being in schools? As educational material? Really? | Aug 08 19:28 |
| schestowitz | And washing this channel withn tripe over nothing | Aug 08 19:28 |
| ender_33 | The first target of this censorship is sites and newsgroups that supposedly contain "child pornography". This term is dishonest, since the law defines "child" as "anyone under 18". For instance, Americans of age 16 are hardly children. They are sexually mature, almost half of them have had sex, and any normal adult will find them attractive. But our | Aug 08 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Mountain out of a molehill | Aug 08 19:28 |
| ender_33 | government cals them "children", with the implicatioin that being attracted to them makes you a pervert. | Aug 08 19:28 |
| schestowitz | I have better things to do | Aug 08 19:28 |
| Snit | I am not the one making those claims... http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/ is my site... stallman.org is rms's site. | Aug 08 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 08 19:28 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Aug 08 19:28 |
| Snit | Sure, you have better things to do than defend a man who makes perverted claims... which rms does. | Aug 08 19:29 |
| ender_33 | he runs | Aug 08 19:29 |
| Snit | But it amuses the heck out of me to watch you do it. Shows how far your bias goes. RMS can do no wrong. MS can do no right. That "R" sure makes a big difference! | Aug 08 19:29 |
| Snit | Remember, these are all quotes from Stallman: http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/StallmanQuotes.txt | Aug 08 19:30 |
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| Snit | Trivial to find | Aug 08 19:30 |
| ender_33 | Snit, what I found the most amusing was how hard he made it to actually force him to read the quote from stallman.org even with the link. | Aug 08 19:30 |
| Snit | Here is the link and the quote... what more does he need? | Aug 08 19:31 |
| ender_33 | he needs more excuses | Aug 08 19:31 |
| Snit | He was hoping, it seems, that I would not be able to quickly find the quote. | Aug 08 19:31 |
| ender_33 | then he spams with topic changers | Aug 08 19:31 |
| Snit | I look forward to being on his show again next month. I will ask him about this, too. | Aug 08 19:31 |
| ender_33 | If you're still a guest | Aug 08 19:32 |
| Snit | Roy also has no comment about this: http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PCLOS-OSX-comparison.pdf | Aug 08 19:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Aug 08 19:32 |
| Snit | Why he and I made predictions about a distro *he* uses and I do not... and I ended up being more correct. | Aug 08 19:32 |
| Snit | When asked about this... he has no response. | Aug 08 19:32 |
| Snit | Well, he has said he has no problem with me coming back. | Aug 08 19:32 |
| Snit | And, to be fair, he and I were both very cordial when we were on the show... and I will be next time, too. | Aug 08 19:33 |
| *DrumScum is now known as pr0n_ | Aug 08 19:33 | |
| Snit | But that does not mean I will not ask him questions he might not like. And he can ask me questions, too. | Aug 08 19:33 |
| Snit | I am pretty open and let him know my questions in advance if he wants - I have no desire to "catch" him unprepared or to trick him or anything like that. | Aug 08 19:33 |
| ender_33 | I didn't catch that show myself | Aug 08 19:34 |
| ender_33 | want to link it? | Aug 08 19:34 |
| ender_33 | LOL | Aug 08 19:34 |
| ender_33 | http://stallman.org/archives/2003-mar-jun.html | Aug 08 19:34 |
| Snit | brb | Aug 08 19:34 |
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| Snit | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/techbytes-audiocast-–-episode-56-–-240711-–-the-grilling/#comment-5609 | Aug 08 19:34 |
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| Snit | Now need to run | Aug 08 19:34 |
| ender_33 | The nominee is quoted as saying that if the choice of a sexual partner were protected by the Constitution, "prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia" also would be. He is probably mistaken, legally--but that is unfortunate. All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness. | Aug 08 19:35 |
| ender_33 | Some rules might be called for when these acts directly affect other people's interests. For incest, contraception could be mandatory to avoid risk of inbreeding. For prostitution, a license should be required to ensure prostitutes get regular medical check-ups, and they should have training and support in insisting on use of condoms. This will be an advance in public health, compared with the situation today. | Aug 08 19:35 |
| ender_33 | For necrophilia, it might be necessary to ask the next of kin for permission if the decedent's will did not authorize it. Necrophilia would be my second choice for what should be done with my corpse, the first being scientific or medical use. Once my dead body is no longer of any use to me, it may as well be of some use to someone. Besides, I often enjoy rhinophytonecrophilia (nasal sex with dead plants). | Aug 08 19:35 |
| pr0n_ | omg... | Aug 08 19:36 |
| pr0n_ | here too? | Aug 08 19:36 |
| *pr0n_ gone | Aug 08 19:36 | |
| ender_33 | how do you DEFEND that? omfg | Aug 08 19:36 |
| ender_33 | 'For incest, contraception could be mandatory to avoid risk of inbreeding | Aug 08 19:36 |
| ender_33 | that's all your worried about? | Aug 08 19:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] KVM Virtualization: Ready for the Desktop? http://tinyurl.com/3tnf6ct #desktop #kvm #virtualization #vmware #microsoft | Aug 08 19:37 | |
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| Snit | Here, for some *fringe* cases I have no problem with incest - if, say, two siblings in their 80s want to have sex, why stop it? Sure, I find it rather gross... but is it hurting much? | Aug 08 19:38 |
| ender_33 | what about necrophilia? | Aug 08 19:38 |
| Snit | The only real worry I have about that is the "slippery slope" where if you make that legal then what else becomes legal - so now it is illegal and people just turn a blind eye. | Aug 08 19:38 |
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| Snit | Thinking out loud here: If the person specifically says they do not mind, before they die... maybe... even then there are some pretty big health issues here. And what else does it lead to that person doing? I think I would have to say no. | Aug 08 19:39 |
| ender_33 | To be fair he clarifies his view on that one. He wants someone to have sex with his corpse if it can't be used for scientific purposes. | Aug 08 19:40 |
| Snit | But asking next of kin! Having to specifically deny it in your will! The man is groteque. | Aug 08 19:41 |
| ender_33 | It would be his #2 choice | Aug 08 19:41 |
| Snit | Yes... I found that amusing and disturbing all at once. | Aug 08 19:41 |
| ender_33 | I dunno who has the balls to ask that one | Aug 08 19:41 |
| Snit | Hey, buddy, your mum just died... and I know you are really bent out of shape about the whole thing... but do you think I can take her body back to my place tonight? I will have her back before she is buried... no harm, right? | Aug 08 19:42 |
| Snit | I mean... what the?!?!?!? | Aug 08 19:42 |
| ender_33 | I don't think the body would disagree | Aug 08 19:43 |
| ender_33 | reminds me of the good old days where the church used to dig people up and throw them on trial to defend themselves | Aug 08 19:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] @fabsh http://bit.ly/ngaj3s [ger] Food for thought about online anonymity. !lo | Aug 08 19:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Librarians do not just stamp books they are historical and science value. Can't be changed by doing nothing. | Aug 08 19:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] !jabberes .org paf? | Aug 08 19:51 | |
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| Tom_B | soooo, what's up in the techrights universe? | Aug 08 19:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/454354/rss | Aug 08 19:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @demandprogress: Celebrate 20th bday of World Wide Web - urge your lawmakers to oppose the Internet Blacklist Bill: http://t.co/oa6CVID | Aug 08 19:54 | |
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| Tom_B | oh my... | Aug 08 19:55 |
| Tom_B | it's the machines talking again | Aug 08 19:55 |
| Tom_B | hello machines | Aug 08 19:55 |
| ender_33 | lots of question dodging | Aug 08 19:55 |
| Tom_B | how are y'all today :-) | Aug 08 19:55 |
| ender_33 | there was a discussion earlier but Roy ran away | Aug 08 19:55 |
| Tom_B | uhm. let's see: hello machines, what's the meaning of life? | Aug 08 19:56 |
| Tom_B | ... | Aug 08 19:56 |
| Tom_B | oh, and what was the discussion about then? | Aug 08 19:57 |
| Tom_B | hmm, 'roy ran away'... | Aug 08 19:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Here is something revolutionary, how about discussion rather than stupid competition? | Aug 08 19:57 | |
| Tom_B | oh, there! | Aug 08 19:57 |
| Tom_B | a machine answered | Aug 08 19:58 |
| Tom_B | yes, clearly a dodge | Aug 08 19:58 |
| Tom_B | pesky machines | Aug 08 19:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 2.6.32.44 and 2.6.33.17 http://lwn.net/Articles/454376/rss | Aug 08 19:59 | |
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| ender_33 | yeah rms made some comments that defended pedophiles | Aug 08 19:59 |
| Tom_B | good to have irc in a text-based client (irrsi) by the way when your downstream bandwidth is limited to 24kB/sec | Aug 08 20:00 |
| ender_33 | then I found out its not just them, hes advocated for sex with corpses and with animals | Aug 08 20:00 |
| Tom_B | there's not much you can do on the internet with such a fast connection | Aug 08 20:00 |
| Tom_B | oh my... | Aug 08 20:00 |
| Tom_B | is the discussion about rms also raging in here or what? | Aug 08 20:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @faither My take on this: Germany is being awkward again. | Aug 08 20:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @faither How come it's legal when a person does it but when FB automates it, it's illegal? That's bull. | Aug 08 20:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @YouTube: Over 1 million videos have been marked as [CC BY] on YouTube. Make a video with CC videos at youtube.com/editor! | Aug 08 20:01 | |
| ender_33 | you're weird | Aug 08 20:01 |
| Tom_B | damn | Aug 08 20:01 |
| Tom_B | i'm not weird | Aug 08 20:01 |
| Tom_B | it's the machines | Aug 08 20:02 |
| Tom_B | what's their point? | Aug 08 20:02 |
| ender_33 | whats yours | Aug 08 20:02 |
| Tom_B | i don't have one | Aug 08 20:03 |
| Tom_B | i'm just a poor bastard with a slow internet connection | Aug 08 20:03 |
| Tom_B | i'm kind of forced to use irc today for my online entertainment | Aug 08 20:03 |
| Tom_B | no downloading pr0n for me today | Aug 08 20:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Speaking of software #patents, from @robtiller | http://red.ht/n3SHi9 | Aug 08 20:04 | |
| Tom_B | hey, are you a cola visitor? | Aug 08 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Speaking of software patents | opensource.com .::. Size~: 46.33 KB | Aug 08 20:04 |
| Tom_B | and i don't mean the beverage, but the usenet group | Aug 08 20:04 |
| Tom_B | okay, back to the gentoo channel then | Aug 08 20:06 |
| Tom_B | see y'all later | Aug 08 20:06 |
| ender_33 | nah im not | Aug 08 20:07 |
| ender_33 | gentoo is awesome btw | Aug 08 20:07 |
| ender_33 | im a fan of funtoo, I like where its going | Aug 08 20:08 |
| Tom_B | yes, it is | Aug 08 20:08 |
| Tom_B | ah, funtoo | Aug 08 20:08 |
| Tom_B | the portage overlay you mean? | Aug 08 20:08 |
| Tom_B | or the entire distro? | Aug 08 20:09 |
| Tom_B | i sometimes pull in some packeges from funtoo (eg when they are more recent versions or not available in Gentoo), but i never tried out the distro itself | Aug 08 20:10 |
| Tom_B | (not much of a distro hopper - I basically only used Mandrake, Ubuntu, Debian and Gentoo thus far, in that order) | Aug 08 20:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I can resist supper for about half an hour, | Aug 08 20:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @expatpaul ♺ @lamejokes: There is no "I" in "Team", but there are four in "Platitude-Quoting Idiot". | Aug 08 20:11 | |
| Tom_B | I'm sure the rest of the lot is fine too, but I don't care to much | Aug 08 20:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @expatpaul ♺ @lamejokes: There is no "I" in "Team", but there are four in "Platitude-Quoting Idiot". | Aug 08 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @satipera Intrigued by the english champions running around wildly as if i get it, alien theater radio show with the kkk? Care ... | Aug 08 20:12 | |
| ender_33 | I use Fedora myself as it has a good balance of latest shit and being easy | Aug 08 20:13 |
| ender_33 | I previously ran Gentoo | Aug 08 20:13 |
| ender_33 | I like the idea of portage over git | Aug 08 20:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I like the the idea of a group called !identiverse | Aug 08 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] EDS Contacts Integration for #Thunderbird – So What? http://dlvr.it/fNsCT #evolution #mozilla #e-mail | Aug 08 20:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EDS Contacts Integration for Thunderbird - So What? | Mike Conley's Blog .::. Size~: 47.17 KB | Aug 08 20:16 |
| *Tom_B is now known as TomB_afk | Aug 08 20:18 | |
| *TomB_afk watching true blood S04E07 | Aug 08 20:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] “ Speaking of software patents” — http://opensource.com/law/11/8/speaking-software-patents?sc_cid=70160000000Sz2BAAS | Aug 08 20:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 Examine your house plants for pests and problems carefully: fight an infestation or disease early in the cockpit during flights | Aug 08 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @meegoexperts Mupen64plus Nintendo 64 Emulator Demoed On #Nokia #N950 #MeeGo #Harmattan http://mge.bz/iP | Aug 08 20:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is psquid with 114 dents! | Aug 08 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] World of Warcraft – Account Investigation Scam: http://bit.ly/os8lgR #scam #spam #scammer #spammer | Aug 08 20:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: World of Warcraft – Account Investigation Scam | Wayne Borean .::. Size~: 22.04 KB | Aug 08 20:51 |
| schestowitz | TomB_afk: hi there | Aug 08 20:54 |
| schestowitz | [20:51] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: World of Warcraft – Account Investigation Scam | Wayne Borean .::. Size~: 22.04 KB | Aug 08 20:54 |
| schestowitz | me misses the days of wikileaks in the mainstream | Aug 08 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Dec 2010... | Aug 08 20:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night @otakukuma | Aug 08 21:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] love !mozilla !jetpack. Hoping that everyone switches soon so that we can all have restartless addons :D | Aug 08 21:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Two 7 year old boys investigated by Swedish police for raping 14 year old girl http://t.co/EiBGIu3 | Aug 08 21:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] when i was in Los Angeles many years ago, we couldn't figure out why so many cars had BC plates (turned out it was "Baja California") @tekk | Aug 08 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I'm not using a proxy, I just asked not to show my location, so they put me in fun locations | Aug 08 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @SaveBradley: V for Vendetta Author Alan Moore stands up for Bradley #Manning t.co/DLShwlh #wikileaks #freebrad | Aug 08 21:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Are Torchwood running !KDE ? http://goo.gl/pCDJy | Aug 08 21:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Did you know that VISA card used to be Bank of AmeriCard? That's the same Bank of America that looked at a M/month smear campaign | Aug 08 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I expect that's why @psquid tends to be floating around in one ocean or another ;) | Aug 08 21:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The same Bank of America, that admits to blocking, along with VISA any suspected donation to WikiLeaks from its customers and other banks. | Aug 08 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] RT @gregkh: How to piss off a Linux kernel maintainer, part 6: http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/maintainer-06.html | Aug 08 21:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] The #linux #longterm #kernel 2.6.32.44 http://bit.ly/oReYEy and 2.6.33.17 http://bit.ly/oGEiYl are out now | Aug 08 21:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The same Bank of America that formed an emergency team of people to clean up before a future WikiLeaks exposure of it. | Aug 08 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] g'night @expatpaul <try not to dream of Cthulhu> | Aug 08 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] oh @laurelrusswurm I suggest looking at freemind for your next !nanowrimo. helps organize thoughts. | Aug 08 21:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The same Bank of America that has just now crashed 15% http://t.co/oy4J7XM | Aug 08 21:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Tipping .... no not here, work for someone that pays a living wage. Join a union it is a good start. | Aug 08 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Correction: Crashed 17.5% | Aug 08 21:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I'll take a look at freemind later... got to get back to work on this one :) | Aug 08 21:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Colour is one of the greatest illusions nature plays on us ? Bollocks it is love. | Aug 08 21:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bank of America has now lost 50% of its value in the last year. | Aug 08 21:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] wondering if the #London riots are a backlash to case after case after case of the MET lying to them, kettling them, targetting them | Aug 08 21:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sweet dreams @marjoleink | Aug 08 21:44 | |
| *DrumScum is now known as Tom_B | Aug 08 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb wondering if the #London riots are a backlash to case after case after case of the MET lying to them, kettling them, targ ... | Aug 08 21:46 | |
| Tom_B | So, that was unfortunate... | Aug 08 21:46 |
| schestowitz | kettling? | Aug 08 21:46 |
| Tom_B | gdm kind of froze up on my debian desktop | Aug 08 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Many protests today around the world | Aug 08 21:46 |
| schestowitz | And the markets are crashing | Aug 08 21:47 |
| Tom_B | ah no | Aug 08 21:47 |
| Tom_B | my problems are much more trivial ;-) | Aug 08 21:47 |
| schestowitz | ubuntu is dumping gdm | Aug 08 21:47 |
| Tom_B | ah, seriously? | Aug 08 21:47 |
| schestowitz | yes | Aug 08 21:47 |
| Tom_B | what will they use in place? | Aug 08 21:47 |
| schestowitz | !google 11.04 ubuntu gdm | Aug 08 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - How to change the GDM theme in ubuntu 11.04 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DHAEm7AjkCFE | Aug 08 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Change GDM Theme / Background In Ubuntu With GDM Tweaker ~ Web ... | http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/change-gdm-theme-background-in-ubuntu.html | Aug 08 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - [ubuntu] GDM crashes repeatedly under normal use - Ubuntu Forums | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D1757487 | Aug 08 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - How to Change GDM/Login Screen Background Image in Ubuntu Lucid ... | http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/01/how-to-change-gdmlogin-screen.html | Aug 08 21:47 |
| schestowitz | !google 11.10 ubuntu gdm | Aug 08 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Ubuntu 11.10 To Switch From GDM To LightDM - Slashdot | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/05/12/1812219/Ubuntu-1110-To-Switch-From-GDM-To-LightDM | Aug 08 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - 'LightDM' to replace GDM login screen in Ubuntu 11.10 | OMG! Ubuntu! | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/lightdm-to-replace-gdm-login-screen-in-ubuntu-11-10/ | Aug 08 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - [Phoronix] Ubuntu 11.10 To Replace GDM With LightDM | http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php%3Fview%3DOTQzOQ | Aug 08 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - 6 Important Changes in Next Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot | Tech ... | http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/05/6-important-changes-in-next-ubuntu-1110.html | Aug 08 21:47 |
| Tom_B | ah | Aug 08 21:48 |
| Tom_B | thx | Aug 08 21:48 |
| Tom_B | lightdm... never heard of that one | Aug 08 21:48 |
| Tom_B | but then again, i don't use a dm myself | Aug 08 21:49 |
| Tom_B | well, there's gdm on the desktop, but i'm never physically on that machine | Aug 08 21:49 |
| schestowitz | important for multi-user boxes | Aug 08 21:49 |
| schestowitz | i usually omit those when introducing people to Linux | Aug 08 21:50 |
| schestowitz | passowrdless logins | Aug 08 21:50 |
| Tom_B | a dm you mean? | Aug 08 21:50 |
| Tom_B | no problem starting multiple X sessions without a dm | Aug 08 21:50 |
| schestowitz | what about graphical sessions? | Aug 08 21:51 |
| Tom_B | just log in to another tty and run "startx -- :2" | Aug 08 21:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] are you really still using XP @thistleweb : 8O | Aug 08 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All of you. I learned my lesson a while ago if you want to be an arse and squabble or fab as I call it carry on and leave me out. | Aug 08 21:51 | |
| schestowitz | doesn't always work | Aug 08 21:51 |
| Tom_B | and there comes your second X session | Aug 08 21:51 |
| Tom_B | hmm, it /should/ | Aug 08 21:51 |
| schestowitz | in old linuxes when i tried it the graphics card limited to one x session per machine | Aug 08 21:51 |
| Tom_B | never heard of that | Aug 08 21:51 |
| MinceR | you can do that even if you do run a dm :> | Aug 08 21:51 |
| schestowitz | maybe it has improved since then | Aug 08 21:52 |
| Tom_B | and i've been doing it like that since 2002 or so | Aug 08 21:52 |
| MinceR | at least one DE can also "switch user" | Aug 08 21:52 |
| schestowitz | I tied a lot in suse 8.1 | Aug 08 21:52 |
| schestowitz | *tried | Aug 08 21:52 |
| schestowitz | my keyboard is giving me a hard time because some windows in another desktop steal focus | Aug 08 21:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Interrogation is the order of the day in today's !InconstantMoon serialization: chapter 73 !SelfPub | Aug 08 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | Oh FFS! | Aug 08 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I click a button over ssh and it clicks it like 5 times | Aug 08 21:53 |
| Tom_B | Free Foftware Foundation? | Aug 08 21:53 |
| MinceR | Soundation. | Aug 08 21:53 |
| Tom_B | ah bollocks :-D | Aug 08 21:53 |
| MinceR | that or Feet-First Supine | Aug 08 21:53 |
| Tom_B | okay, ignore my attempt at humour :-p | Aug 08 21:53 |
| schestowitz | For Fine Sake | Aug 08 21:53 |
| schestowitz | The Fine can be substituted by some.. | Aug 08 21:54 |
| MinceR | Feline? | Aug 08 21:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Five Linux Desktops That Aren't Unity or GNOME 3 http://bit.ly/n7UPEm | Aug 08 21:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Five Linux Desktops That Aren't Unity or GNOME 3 | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 84.33 KB | Aug 08 21:54 |
| Tom_B | but so much issues there, roy | Aug 08 21:54 |
| schestowitz | noyesk made a crap article about the SUSE deal with MSFT | Aug 08 21:54 |
| schestowitz | I'll write about it later | Aug 08 21:55 |
| schestowitz | And she headline-baits sometimes | Aug 08 21:55 |
| Tom_B | regarding the ssh thing, you're maybe on a slow connection? | Aug 08 21:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @unsub my first kindle production. book of poems. damn i feel giddy. http://www.amazon.com/Crooked-ebook/dp/B005G4GLZ8/ref=sr_... htt ... | Aug 08 21:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon.com: Crooked++ eBook: Billy Jno Hope, Melissa Lebruin: Kindle Store .::. Size~: 327.07 KB | Aug 08 21:56 |
| Tom_B | i wonder why ubuntu is dumping gdm... | Aug 08 21:57 |
| Tom_B | any particular reason mentioned? | Aug 08 21:57 |
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| Tom_B | it's one of the things i dislike about ubuntu btw: they're constantly shuffling stuff around | Aug 08 21:57 |
| Tom_B | i wish they'd stick with a stable config for a couple of years now | Aug 08 21:58 |
| Tom_B | just so you know 'this is ubuntu, and this is what i'm going to expect' | Aug 08 21:58 |
| Tom_B | no wayland yet in 11.10? | Aug 08 21:59 |
| Snit | Ubuntu wants to compete with the big boys - Shuttleworth talks about it offering as good of an experience as OS X some day. And to do that they need to make changes | Aug 08 21:59 |
| Snit | But just swapping out pieces is not enough - you have to help the whole ecosystem grow. And that has been a lot harder than Shuttleworth anticipated | Aug 08 22:00 |
| Tom_B | oh lookie | Aug 08 22:00 |
| Tom_B | my good friend :-p | Aug 08 22:00 |
| Snit | Hello | Aug 08 22:00 |
| Tom_B | in any case, i wonder when we'll see wayland in ubuntu | Aug 08 22:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] congratulations @unsub >http://ur1.ca/4vdvl< !SelfPub you're an inspiration... now its back to work for me :) | Aug 08 22:01 | |
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| Snit | Are you the same TomB from COLA? If so, I want you to know I think you misunderstood me - I never said you were a pedophile. But if you feel better putting me in a KF, so be it. | Aug 08 22:01 |
| Tom_B | i've been reading up on it a little, and while i *love* x, i think wayland has some interesting things going on | Aug 08 22:01 |
| MinceR | well, they do need to downgrade the experience to reach the level of osx -- hence, unity | Aug 08 22:01 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 08 22:01 |
| Tom_B | hehe | Aug 08 22:01 |
| Snit | Unity is very much a 1.0 product. | Aug 08 22:02 |
| Tom_B | Snit: yes, the same TomB | Aug 08 22:02 |
| MinceR | "if at first you don't succeed, call it 1.0"? | Aug 08 22:02 |
| Snit | The menu is wonky, the "dock" poorly done, etc. | Aug 08 22:02 |
| Tom_B | but some other loser already owns the nick | Aug 08 22:02 |
| Snit | But I think it has promise... look forward to seeing what they do with it. | Aug 08 22:02 |
| Snit | LOL! Ok. | Aug 08 22:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #VIDEO "Freedom Box": #Internet #free of #government control? http://tinyurl.com/3vcl4yd #moglen #freedombox #romania #linux #software #eu | Aug 08 22:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: "Freedom Box": Internet free of government control? - CBS News Video .::. Size~: 34.66 KB | Aug 08 22:02 |
| Tom_B | and you're not in my killfile (i don't believe in killfiles), i merely stopped responding to you | Aug 08 22:03 |
| Snit | Ah, OK. | Aug 08 22:03 |
| Snit | Well, your choice. You do not owe me replies - though I do wish you would not lie about me and repeatedly bad mouth me. But so be it. Not here to discuss that. | Aug 08 22:03 |
| Tom_B | unity is quite good i think | Aug 08 22:04 |
| Tom_B | not something i'd use, but it has some very nice ideas | Aug 08 22:04 |
| Snit | Unity is a good start... but I went back to Gnome pretty quick. | Aug 08 22:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] I had no idea that Creep is co-credited to Albert Hammond due to its similarity to The Air That I Breathe -- http://ur1.ca/4vdwd #radiohead | Aug 08 22:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When people are rioting it is so much more difficult to take money from them. | Aug 08 22:04 | |
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| Snit | Right - good ideas... but, so far, not done all that well. | Aug 08 22:04 |
| Snit | And based on the nature of Linux, the programs do not all play nice with the menu | Aug 08 22:04 |
| Tom_B | Cause I'm a creep, I'm a willow... | Aug 08 22:04 |
| Tom_B | God, I love that song | Aug 08 22:05 |
| Tom_B | why is the machine mentioning it? | Aug 08 22:05 |
| Tom_B | roy: tell your machine to shut up | Aug 08 22:05 |
| MinceR | because a dent linked to it previously | Aug 08 22:05 |
| Snit | I block the bots. | Aug 08 22:05 |
| Tom_B | it's putting music in my head! | Aug 08 22:05 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 08 22:05 |
| Snit | They are useless... at least to me | Aug 08 22:05 |
| Tom_B | mhh... | Aug 08 22:06 |
| Tom_B | how do i block bots then becomes the question | Aug 08 22:06 |
| MinceR | your client probably has an 'ignore' function | Aug 08 22:06 |
| Tom_B | man irrsi should help me out | Aug 08 22:06 |
| Snit | I know in my client I just right click on the name and select "block". | Aug 08 22:07 |
| Snit | But that is the nature of a well done GUI - things are very discoverable and intuitive, if done right. :) | Aug 08 22:07 |
| MinceR | Tom_B: /help ignore | Aug 08 22:07 |
| Tom_B | hey, that was quite intuitive | Aug 08 22:07 |
| MinceR | Snit: "the only intuitive interface is the nipple. after that, all is learned." | Aug 08 22:07 |
| Tom_B | just slash ignore <botname> | Aug 08 22:07 |
| Tom_B | right | Aug 08 22:08 |
| ender_33 | tom_b its /ignore botname | Aug 08 22:08 |
| ender_33 | I just did it | Aug 08 22:08 |
| Tom_B | so now the machine is silenced | Aug 08 22:08 |
| Snit | And once you know that it is easy - but a GUI, in this case, was faster | Aug 08 22:08 |
| Tom_B | i am the oppressor | Aug 08 22:08 |
| Snit | Of course, best would be to have both - so you can automate ignores and the like | Aug 08 22:08 |
| Tom_B | mhoehahaha | Aug 08 22:08 |
| MinceR | there are many irc clients with a gui and a command line | Aug 08 22:08 |
| Tom_B | (and i prolly misspelled oppressor) | Aug 08 22:09 |
| Snit | Hmmm, but then again, my client is AppleScript aware - so I could script it. | Aug 08 22:09 |
| MinceR | i don't have much use for a gui in an irc client | Aug 08 22:09 |
| Snit | BRB | Aug 08 22:09 |
| Tom_B | nah, me neither | Aug 08 22:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @satipera When people are rioting it is so much more difficult to take money from them. | Aug 08 22:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Life is delicate. Imagine if something big happened. | Aug 08 22:09 | |
| Tom_B | it's all just text | Aug 08 22:09 |
| MinceR | also, this way i can access it over ssh, even over slow connections | Aug 08 22:09 |
| MinceR | with lots of jitter | Aug 08 22:09 |
| ender_33 | aha, multiple zfs scrubs and superglue have solved my raid issue | Aug 08 22:09 |
| ender_33 | yay | Aug 08 22:09 |
| MinceR | and high delay | Aug 08 22:09 |
| Tom_B | superglue? | Aug 08 22:10 |
| ender_33 | yes | Aug 08 22:10 |
| ender_33 | to secure the data connector | Aug 08 22:10 |
| ender_33 | it broke | Aug 08 22:10 |
| Tom_B | you've just glued the platters together then? | Aug 08 22:10 |
| ender_33 | nah | Aug 08 22:10 |
| Tom_B | ah | Aug 08 22:10 |
| ender_33 | the sata cable is now permanently attached to the drive | Aug 08 22:11 |
| Tom_B | yes, those things break | Aug 08 22:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC worry about prospects of local traders. | Aug 08 22:11 | |
| Tom_B | hehe | Aug 08 22:11 |
| ender_33 | this will be fine until I can replace all 3 drives | Aug 08 22:11 |
| ender_33 | if it *does* die I got parity | Aug 08 22:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and cause me to tremble for safety of my country; corpor... http://b1t.it/uSx | Aug 08 22:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I appologise for this in advance. Fuck BBC news coverage it is paid for and unworthy of the name news. | Aug 08 22:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ .::. Size~: 41.35 KB | Aug 08 22:12 |
| ender_33 | I now have two examples of physical drive failure where ZFS has prevented a drive full of data from being lost forever | Aug 08 22:13 |
| Tom_B | just zfs by itself you mean? | Aug 08 22:14 |
| Tom_B | or thanks to the raid setup? | Aug 08 22:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Violence is no answer it hurts people. People are the most important but for important buildings to be ruined as well it is double disaster. | Aug 08 22:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Obama increased warrantless emergency spying 400% over Bush http://t.co/L4WET6J | Aug 08 22:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DOJ Had 400% More Emergencies That Required Immediate Warrantless Info From ISPs? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 61.24 KB | Aug 08 22:17 |
| Tom_B | so, silenced another machine | Aug 08 22:18 |
| MinceR | pressed the power button? :> | Aug 08 22:18 |
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| ender_33 | the zpool raid setup | Aug 08 22:24 |
| ender_33 | it was able to correct errors in each of the drives | Aug 08 22:24 |
| ender_33 | I knew what files would be damaged if it didn't work | Aug 08 22:24 |
| ender_33 | A bit nicer than hardware raid that doesn't understand the filesystem and can't tell you what is fucked up. | Aug 08 22:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Prediction: the UK govt will use the #London riots as "justification" to further spy on / restrict / censor services like #Twitter | Aug 08 22:32 | |
| Tom_B | ah, good fellow | Aug 08 22:33 |
| Tom_B | liking software raids | Aug 08 22:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] will agent provocateurs join the riots to put banners up of protest groups that hurt or expose their interests, to associate them with riots | Aug 08 22:36 | |
| Tom_B | okay, 30 more minutes and my internet connection goes full throttle again | Aug 08 22:36 |
| Tom_B | damn, 24kB/s is slooooow | Aug 08 22:36 |
| ender_33 | I think im wasting more than that away just routing for i2p | Aug 08 22:36 |
| MinceR | gn | Aug 08 22:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @thistleweb Prediction: the UK govt will use the #London riots as "justification" to further spy on / restrict / censor services like ... | Aug 08 22:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Reason: The Cyber-Security Industrial Complex http://t.co/kZkkvMn | Aug 08 22:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Warren Buffet tells S&P to fuck off, S&P promptly downgrades Berkshire Hathaway http://ur1.ca/4ve13 | Aug 08 22:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Cybersecurity-Industrial Complex - Reason Magazine .::. Size~: 153.27 KB | Aug 08 22:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Gets 'Negative' Outlook from S&P - CNBC .::. Size~: 145.68 KB | Aug 08 22:37 |
| Tom_B | ah, i2p | Aug 08 22:38 |
| Tom_B | i should try that out someday | Aug 08 22:38 |
| Tom_B | to much peeking going on on the net these days | Aug 08 22:38 |
| Tom_B | is it workable? | Aug 08 22:39 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Aug 08 22:45 |
| schestowitz | [22:37] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [diablod3/@diablod3] Warren Buffet tells S&P to fuck off, S&P promptly downgrades Berkshire Hathaway | Aug 08 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Poor Buffet | Aug 08 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Stuill dodging tax | Aug 08 22:46 |
| schestowitz | By putting his money in a 'foundation' | Aug 08 22:46 |
| schestowitz | "Too Big to Tax" | Aug 08 22:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] For fuck sake a little riot in London and we never hear the last of it It was Bradford they would not have it in the papers. | Aug 08 22:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bank of America now down -20.31% | Aug 08 22:47 | |
| Snit | I do not fault those who play the games to get out of paying taxes - the system is set up to encourage it. | Aug 08 22:49 |
| Snit | The system is completely messed up. | Aug 08 22:49 |
| Snit | Similar thing with IP. Right now companies pretty much have to play the stupid IP games or they lose. | Aug 08 22:49 |
| Snit | So Apple gets sued for having machines boot too quickly and they sue others for the use of the name "App Store". Idiotic. | Aug 08 22:50 |
| Tom_B | 13 more minutes! | Aug 08 22:50 |
| Tom_B | oh no, only 12! | Aug 08 22:50 |
| Tom_B | brilliant | Aug 08 22:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I will be honest about this. Is a black Tory a good or a bad thing? | Aug 08 22:51 | |
| Tom_B | eew, politics | Aug 08 22:51 |
| Tom_B | mhh, what's that about apple getting sued for having to quick boots? | Aug 08 22:52 |
| Tom_B | too | Aug 08 22:54 |
| Tom_B | of corpse | Aug 08 22:54 |
| Tom_B | ugh, just finished de-xen-ifying one of my servers | Aug 08 22:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The good news is we have the best police force in the world :) and none of them have ever made a mistake. (British coppers) | Aug 08 22:56 | |
| Tom_B | some months ago i had to set up a mail server, a name server, a nagios server and an ftp server | Aug 08 22:56 |
| Tom_B | but i had only one machine at my disposal | Aug 08 22:57 |
| Tom_B | an Intel P-IV @ 2GHz, with 512 MB of RAM (RAMBUS none the less) | Aug 08 22:58 |
| Tom_B | so i though it would be a good idea to create some XEN VMs on it, and have each of their services on their own 'machine' | Aug 08 22:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psquid @andyc Burning shops and houses of unrelated innocent people is not fucking bravery. | Aug 08 22:59 | |
| Tom_B | well, GNU/Linux is good, but it isn't /that/ good ;-) | Aug 08 22:59 |
| Snit | Sorry was gone. | Aug 08 23:00 |
| Snit | Apple was sued today for having quick boots... let me look it up again. | Aug 08 23:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I note that #Google allows my fellow HS alum Jennifer 8. Lee to use said name on G+. | Aug 08 23:01 | |
| Snit | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/08/apple_sued_over_mac_x_fast_boot/ | Aug 08 23:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple sued over Mac OS X 'quick boot' • The Register .::. Size~: 25.67 KB | Aug 08 23:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Comfort zone .....Unless they are uncomfortable they will do nothing for you. | Aug 08 23:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @cer I think so. even a blogger that requires registration for comments should have a simple TOS/PP. Here's a template I'm b http://u ... | Aug 08 23:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @reality: Twitter reports it's kicking off by the olympic stadium in Stratford | Aug 08 23:04 | |
| schestowitz | tomorrow ought to be sunny, at long last http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9 | Aug 08 23:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @mo6020: The kurds and turks are out in Hackney defending their shops with bats and sticks | Aug 08 23:06 | |
| schestowitz | hopefully Apple will be sued a lot | Aug 08 23:06 |
| Tom_B | rofl @ patent lawsuit | Aug 08 23:06 |
| schestowitz | it uses patents anti competitively | Aug 08 23:06 |
| schestowitz | if it gets hit a lot and hard, maybe it will need to start changing its mind about patents | Aug 08 23:06 |
| Tom_B | still, if you play with matches, you'll get burned | Aug 08 23:06 |
| Tom_B | ... | Aug 08 23:06 |
| Snit | Right... and note, I am pointing out where Apple is being sued and suing is absurd ways. | Aug 08 23:07 |
| Snit | If you have a business you do. | Aug 08 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Right now Apple deserves no sympthy, it's part of patent cartels like cptn and the nortel thing | Aug 08 23:07 |
| Snit | Any big company has to deal with this BS | Aug 08 23:07 |
| Tom_B | but perhaps this will lead to some kind of mutually assured destruction | Aug 08 23:07 |
| Snit | What big company is not playing these games? | Aug 08 23:07 |
| schestowitz | the only winners under all scenarios are patent lawyers | Aug 08 23:07 |
| Tom_B | yeah, that would be nice :-) | Aug 08 23:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @IanKearney: Large group of 20 to 30 gathering outside Barclays by N1 #londonriots #islington | Aug 08 23:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] These bloody old sweat reporters that think rioting goes back to the 1980's. Wrong it goes back a lot longer than that. | Aug 08 23:07 | |
| schestowitz | The winners overall are also the monopolists | Aug 08 23:07 |
| Snit | Roy: right. The system is absurd. | Aug 08 23:07 |
| Tom_B | and then F/OSS would reign forever! | Aug 08 23:08 |
| schestowitz | tell apple to do something then | Aug 08 23:08 |
| schestowitz | stop chereshing it | Aug 08 23:08 |
| schestowitz | It's part of the problem | Aug 08 23:08 |
| Snit | Apple does not control the system. | Aug 08 23:08 |
| schestowitz | And it's not looking for solution, it doesn't have incentives to | Aug 08 23:08 |
| Snit | Again: point to the company they should be acting like. | Aug 08 23:08 |
| schestowitz | aplle does have influence | Aug 08 23:08 |
| Snit | Are there any? | Aug 08 23:08 |
| Snit | Ah, I did not know you spoke for Apple. Interesting. | Aug 08 23:09 |
| Tom_B | they should act like google! | Aug 08 23:09 |
| Tom_B | hah! | Aug 08 23:09 |
| schestowitz | google has not done enough, either | Aug 08 23:09 |
| schestowitz | I mailed Google | Aug 08 23:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @AJELive: #UKRiots violence spreading outside capital 2 Birmingham, shops attacked + police deployed http://aje.me/q9HwIF | Aug 08 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @katebevan: Just went to look outside - cars going up & down North End Road, so can't be too bad at Fulham Broadway #londonriots | Aug 08 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @cer The Bard timely as always: RT @IAM_SHAKESPEARE I fear it much; and I do fear besides | Aug 08 23:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UK Riots Live Blog | Al Jazeera Blogs .::. Size~: 54.88 KB | Aug 08 23:09 |
| schestowitz | and I got a disappointing response | Aug 08 23:09 |
| Snit | http://goo.gl/pMWps | Aug 08 23:09 |
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| Tom_B | using gmail I hope ;-) | Aug 08 23:09 |
| schestowitz | just because they bought IBM patents | Aug 08 23:09 |
| Snit | It is not like Google is not being sued and suing others, too. | Aug 08 23:09 |
| schestowitz | no | Aug 08 23:09 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't sue others with patents | Aug 08 23:09 |
| schestowitz | so get your facts right | Aug 08 23:09 |
| Tom_B | schestowitz: what was the disappointing response then? | Aug 08 23:10 |
| Snit | Is Google not suing anyone? If I am wrong about that I stand corrected. Let me check. | Aug 08 23:10 |
| Snit | http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/12/google-sues-make-money-with-google-scams.html | Aug 08 23:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Sues Make Money with Google Scams .::. Size~: 62.68 KB | Aug 08 23:11 |
| Snit | Whoops. | Aug 08 23:11 |
| Snit | They are. | Aug 08 23:11 |
| Snit | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/03/03/187209/Microsoft-Google-Sue-Troll-Who-Sued-397-Companies | Aug 08 23:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft, Google Sue Troll Who Sued 397 Companies - Slashdot .::. Size~: 133.21 KB | Aug 08 23:11 |
| Snit | And doing so as they team up with MS. | Aug 08 23:11 |
| Snit | Wait - scratch that last one. | Aug 08 23:11 |
| Snit | My mistake. | Aug 08 23:11 |
| Snit | But another place they are suing: http://allthingsd.com/20101101/google-to-u-s-whos-being-anticompetitive-now/ | Aug 08 23:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Sues U.S. Department of Interior - John Paczkowski - News - AllThingsD .::. Size~: 79.52 KB | Aug 08 23:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @rpcutts: Fuck these guys. Out for a game and a thrill. To smash shit up and get free stuff. #thatisall | Aug 08 23:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @reality: If it was a revolution I might join in, but nah. | Aug 08 23:12 | |
| schestowitz |  | Aug 08 23:14 |
| schestowitz | [23:10] <Tom_B> schestowitz: what was the disappointing response then? | Aug 08 23:14 |
| schestowitz | They said they'd still pursue purchases of patents | Aug 08 23:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wretched media coverage on London protests from BBC to Al Jazeera. Not a single protester interviewed. Absolutely pathetic. | Aug 08 23:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: I finally released !LO 222 - Don't Be Harshin' Our Mellow: http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/222 - incl. Dan's Gnome 3 / F15 review | Aug 08 23:14 | |
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| schestowitz | [23:10] <Snit> Is Google not suing anyone? If I am wrong about that I stand corrected. Let me check. | Aug 08 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Idiot | Aug 08 23:14 |
| schestowitz | With patents | Aug 08 23:14 |
| schestowitz | I made that clear | Aug 08 23:14 |
| Tom_B | schestowitz: yes, but aren't they buying patents to make sure they will no longer get abused? | Aug 08 23:15 |
| Tom_B | i mean, that's quite noble, no? | Aug 08 23:15 |
| schestowitz | yes, but it raises the value of software patents | Aug 08 23:15 |
| schestowitz | We need to just kill those patents | Aug 08 23:15 |
| Tom_B | ah, right | Aug 08 23:15 |
| Tom_B | i see | Aug 08 23:15 |
| Snit | Hmmm, is anyone using anything from Google they have patended? | Aug 08 23:16 |
| Snit | But I will say it seems like they are playing the game less than others, | Aug 08 23:16 |
| Snit | Of course, they focus on ads - not hardware or software. Heck, Android is OSS... suits are less likely there because of the license | Aug 08 23:17 |
| ender_33 | Tom_B - yeah i2p is workable, you can use it like tor and its faster than freenet | Aug 08 23:17 |
| Snit | So you want Apple to be like a very dissimilar company. | Aug 08 23:17 |
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| ender_33 | the people here probably fear it because the java installer uses a .exe extension.... | Aug 08 23:17 |
| Tom_B | ender_33: ha, how's that for a prompt reply!!! | Aug 08 23:17 |
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| Tom_B | but it runs fine on GNU/Linux then? | Aug 08 23:18 |
| Tom_B | (well, unless you're one of those silly awesome users of course) | Aug 08 23:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Yes @serjdd: For general best Linux distro suggestions, look here: http://t.co/xyv4bn6 An update on this story shld be live Wed. | Aug 08 23:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Aug 08 23:19 |
| Snit | With Google online products, such as Docs and the like, is the source code available? | Aug 08 23:19 |
| ender_33 | 18:12 < schestowitz> Idiot | Aug 08 23:20 |
| ender_33 | is that like some 'rage' thing | Aug 08 23:20 |
| ender_33 | Tom_B yeah you just execute the exe file with java | Aug 08 23:21 |
| Tom_B | If you're not on windows, you can type java -jar i2pinstall_0.8.7.exe (yes, really) | Aug 08 23:21 |
| Tom_B | hehe | Aug 08 23:22 |
| Tom_B | just read it | Aug 08 23:22 |
| Tom_B | :-) | Aug 08 23:22 |
| ender_33 | im using it in a vm with scientific linux | Aug 08 23:22 |
| Tom_B | nice | Aug 08 23:22 |
| Tom_B | are there any GNU/Linux bittorrent clients that work with I2P? | Aug 08 23:23 |
| Tom_B | because my ISP had decided to throttle bittorrent traffic | Aug 08 23:24 |
| Tom_B | the bastards | Aug 08 23:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Tottenham nobody gives a fuck. The last political violence that had any affect was bombing the city of London (Financial) | Aug 08 23:24 | |
| Tom_B | so for now I download my stuff on a server i own in the netherlands | Aug 08 23:24 |
| Tom_B | and then copy it over to home over an ssh tunnel | Aug 08 23:24 |
| Tom_B | works fine, but it's still a little hoop to jump through... | Aug 08 23:25 |
| ender_33 | I am pretty sure it has a built in one | Aug 08 23:25 |
| Tom_B | ah, right | Aug 08 23:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Remote Government http://is.gd/UkbEQu #politics | Aug 08 23:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Remote Government | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 24.09 KB | Aug 08 23:26 |
| Tom_B | eh, what the hell | Aug 08 23:26 |
| Tom_B | let's check it out myself ;-) | Aug 08 23:26 |
| ender_33 | otherwise you'll need to get the settings correct in other clients | Aug 08 23:26 |
| ender_33 | irc is on localhost port 6668 | Aug 08 23:26 |
| Tom_B | mhh, perhaps i'm not fully understanding the concept | Aug 08 23:26 |
| ender_33 | its a layer of darknet on top of the internet | Aug 08 23:27 |
| Tom_B | surely you cannot just route any traffic over I2P? | Aug 08 23:27 |
| Tom_B | right | Aug 08 23:27 |
| Tom_B | ? | Aug 08 23:27 |
| ender_33 | yes you can | Aug 08 23:27 |
| Tom_B | oh... | Aug 08 23:27 |
| Tom_B | nifty | Aug 08 23:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @mairin i always knew that #openshift was the choice of pandas... the hot new web design confirms it http://openshift.redhat.com/ | Aug 08 23:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The BBC can interview the Taliban, but is apparently incapable of a single meaningful interview with a London protester. | Aug 08 23:27 | |
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| Tom_B | i thought you had to use the protocol on both ends of the connection | Aug 08 23:28 |
| ender_33 | yeah, there is an irc server on i2p | Aug 08 23:28 |
| ender_33 | its configured as a tunnel in i2p and you use it via localhost port 6668 | Aug 08 23:28 |
| Tom_B | ah ok, so it /has/ to be implemented on the server end as well then? | Aug 08 23:29 |
| ender_33 | just configuration | Aug 08 23:29 |
| Tom_B | okay, am going to download the client now and see for myself how it hangs together | Aug 08 23:30 |
| ender_33 | you ever use freenet? | Aug 08 23:30 |
| ender_33 | this is probably 50x faster | Aug 08 23:30 |
| Tom_B | Download the graphical installer file above and run java -jar i2pinstall_0.8.7.exe -console from the command line. This will work on windows. linux, and mac (yes really). | Aug 08 23:31 |
| Tom_B | rofl, funny site | Aug 08 23:31 |
| ender_33 | yeah people were probably bugging them for a jar file | Aug 08 23:31 |
| Tom_B | okay, first see if there's a gentoo ebuild somewhere | Aug 08 23:31 |
| Tom_B | ha, right on! | Aug 08 23:32 |
| ender_33 | :) | Aug 08 23:32 |
| Tom_B | it's just there | Aug 08 23:32 |
| Tom_B | gotta love GNU/Linux ;-) | Aug 08 23:32 |
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| ender_33 | don't you mean Xorg/GNOME(OR KDE/XFCE/FLUXBOX)/Canonical/GNU/Linux | Aug 08 23:33 |
| Snit | ender... LOL! | Aug 08 23:34 |
| ender_33 | well I mean as long as credit is due | Aug 08 23:34 |
| Tom_B | hehe | Aug 08 23:34 |
| ender_33 | don't you mean Xorg/GNOME(OR KDE/XFCE/FLUXBOX)/Redhat/Novell/Canonical/GNU/Linux | Aug 08 23:35 |
| Tom_B | let's not go there :-p | Aug 08 23:35 |
| Tom_B | my mind's made up on that one ;-) | Aug 08 23:35 |
| ender_33 | didn't Microsoft throw in a few lines of code.... | Aug 08 23:35 |
| Tom_B | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | Aug 08 23:35 |
| ender_33 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yggdrasil_Linux/GNU/X | Aug 08 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Yggdrasil Linux/GNU/X - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 48.3 KB | Aug 08 23:35 |
| Tom_B | i will not call it MS/GNU/Linux | Aug 08 23:35 |
| ender_33 | awesome, Yggdrasil gave credit to X at least | Aug 08 23:35 |
| ender_33 | and they died | Aug 08 23:36 |
| Tom_B | rofl | Aug 08 23:36 |
| ender_33 | </conspiracy> | Aug 08 23:36 |
| schestowitz | x is not so big | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | compred to gnu | Aug 08 23:37 |
| ender_33 | x is bigger than gnu | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | the drivers are big | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | the blobs esp. | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | nom code | Aug 08 23:37 |
| Tom_B | oh | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | gnu is about 15% of debian | Aug 08 23:37 |
| Tom_B | crap | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | x is less than that | Aug 08 23:37 |
| Snit | Parts of GNU... not all of it. | Aug 08 23:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] See the diff in coverage for Israel, Syria & UK protests. For Israel=absolute silence, for UK=condemned as riots, for Syria=bombs | Aug 08 23:37 | |
| Tom_B | i recently saw a pie diagram | Aug 08 23:37 |
| schestowitz | there are those, too | Aug 08 23:37 |
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| Snit | Yummmm pie diagrams. | Aug 08 23:38 |
| Tom_B | I thought GNU, on average and without Gnome included, was about 12% or something | Aug 08 23:38 |
| Tom_B | and Linux (the kernel) about 8% | Aug 08 23:38 |
| Snit | So between the two only 20%. So why call it GNU/Linux? | Aug 08 23:39 |
| Snit | Oh well, I just say "desktop Linux". | Aug 08 23:39 |
| Tom_B | but it's perfectly possible that i'm not remembering it right, and that the numbers are totally different | Aug 08 23:39 |
| Snit | Fair enough | Aug 08 23:39 |
| ender_33 | I would go down to what is the lowest common denominator between all desktops | Aug 08 23:39 |
| ender_33 | not everyone is using gnome | Aug 08 23:39 |
| Tom_B | so GNU and Linux, right? ;-) | Aug 08 23:40 |
| Tom_B | mhoeha | Aug 08 23:40 |
| ender_33 | GNU is such a small part even still | Aug 08 23:40 |
| Tom_B | i say call it what you like | Aug 08 23:40 |
| ender_33 | you get nothing without a gui, xorg should be there with gnu | Aug 08 23:40 |
| Snit | And why bring focus to Stallman? Linus seems a decent man. So "desktop Linux". Then again, I preferred that term even before I knew about Stallman's perversions. | Aug 08 23:41 |
| Snit | brb | Aug 08 23:41 |
| Tom_B | i have many gui-less GNU/Linux machines sir!!! | Aug 08 23:41 |
| Tom_B | in fact most of my GNU/Linux machines are gui-less | Aug 08 23:41 |
| Tom_B | ha! | Aug 08 23:41 |
| ender_33 | what about LLVM/Linux | Aug 08 23:41 |
| Tom_B | llvm? | Aug 08 23:41 |
| ender_33 | competition | Aug 08 23:42 |
| Snit | Part of the strength - and weakness - with desktop Linux is it is so much of a mish-mash that nobody even really knows what to call it. | Aug 08 23:42 |
| ender_33 | if you are doing all the work you should be able to call it whatever you want | Aug 08 23:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] protesters or rioters, there are no interviews, but endless pathetic commentary. | Aug 08 23:42 | |
| ender_33 | if you spend 2 million in man hours and want to call it dogshit, thats your freedom | Aug 08 23:42 |
| Snit | But lots of different people do lots of work. | Aug 08 23:43 |
| Snit | Then again, Google calls their Linux based OS "Android". And nobody seems to have a problem with that. | Aug 08 23:43 |
| ender_33 | yeah | Aug 08 23:43 |
| ender_33 | well I don't think they use anything from gnu for android right? | Aug 08 23:43 |
| Tom_B | i have no idea... | Aug 08 23:44 |
| Snit | They do use Linux. But they do not call it Android/Linux | Aug 08 23:44 |
| Tom_B | don't think so | Aug 08 23:44 |
| ender_33 | nor would they have a reason to call it GNU/Android | Aug 08 23:44 |
| Tom_B | why not AN/Droid | Aug 08 23:45 |
| Tom_B | that looks quite cool | Aug 08 23:45 |
| ender_33 | Ubuntu MONO/Linux | Aug 08 23:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] One day left to get the Humble Indie Bundle! https://eff.org/r.29k Our take on the successful distribution model: https://eff.org/r.99H | Aug 08 23:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RIM Helping UK Police Track Down Rioters http://goo.gl/W0Uzj | Aug 08 23:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Humble Indie Bundle #3 (pay what you want for five awesome indie games) .::. Size~: 92.67 KB | Aug 08 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Developers and Fans Benefit From Humble Indie Bundle Pay-What-You-Want Model | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 25.31 KB | Aug 08 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: RIM Helping UK Police Track Down Rioters - Slashdot .::. Size~: 134.66 KB | Aug 08 23:46 |
| Tom_B | hehe | Aug 08 23:46 |
| Tom_B | didn't rms suggest LiGNUx? | Aug 08 23:46 |
| Tom_B | Now /that's/ hideous :-D | Aug 08 23:47 |
| ender_33 | he suggests a lot of wacky things | Aug 08 23:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @MatinaStevis: Moped burned to ashes, Lonsdale Road W11 http://ping.fm/rQk6G | Aug 08 23:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] What If #Android Lost the #Patent War? http://goo.gl/U6kpO | Aug 08 23:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: yfrog Photo : http://yfrog.com/keihbwcj Shared by MatinaStevis .::. Size~: 33.32 KB | Aug 08 23:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What If Android Lost the Patent War? - Slashdot .::. Size~: 138.95 KB | Aug 08 23:47 |
| Snit | He suggests things a lot more offensive than that | Aug 08 23:48 |
| Tom_B | anyway, GNU/Linux works just fine for me | Aug 08 23:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Some of the bread sold in Britain I do not know how they have the nerve to say it is fresh. | Aug 08 23:49 | |
| Snit | I am happy with the term "desktop Linux" | Aug 08 23:49 |
| Tom_B | and when i'm talking, i'm lazy and just say 'linux' | Aug 08 23:49 |
| Tom_B | nah | Aug 08 23:49 |
| ender_33 | You know what the great thing about necrophilia is? you don't have to bring flowers | Aug 08 23:49 |
| ender_33 | they're _usually_ already there | Aug 08 23:50 |
| Tom_B | rofl | Aug 08 23:50 |
| Tom_B | A man was brought before the judge and charged with Necrophilia. | Aug 08 23:51 |
| ender_33 | For necrophilia, it might be necessary to ask the next of kin for permission if the decedent's will did not authorize it. Necrophilia would be my second choice for what should be done with my corpse, the first being scientific or medical use. Once my dead body is no longer of any use to me, it may as well be of some use to someone. Besides, I often enjoy | Aug 08 23:52 |
| ender_33 | rhinophytonerophilia (nasal sex with dead plant s). | Aug 08 23:52 |
| ender_33 | -RMS | Aug 08 23:52 |
| Tom_B | oh my | Aug 08 23:52 |
| Tom_B | i've had enough of this | Aug 08 23:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/investment-ideas/streetwise/goldman-sachs-ready-to-bail-out-california/article2111174/ | Aug 08 23:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Goldman Sachs ready to bail out California - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 96.34 KB | Aug 08 23:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks leads to resignation of Brazillian Minister for Defence mentioned here http://t.co/FfAMJOy | Aug 08 23:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Переводчик .::. Size~: 0.89 KB | Aug 08 23:52 |
| Snit | Mini and Mickey are getting a divorce the judge says to Mickey - you said Mini is insane, but I do not see it | Aug 08 23:52 |
| Snit | Mickey says, no, I did not say she is insane, I said she is f*cking Goofy! | Aug 08 23:53 |
| Snit | OK brb | Aug 08 23:53 |
| Tom_B | hahaha, that's a pretty good joke their about M&M | Aug 08 23:53 |
| Snit | Thanks | Aug 08 23:54 |
| Snit | OK, need to run for a bit | Aug 08 23:54 |
| Tom_B | okay, so now i2p is installed | Aug 08 23:55 |
| Tom_B | let's see where to go from here | Aug 08 23:55 |
| ender_33 | on the road to free speech | Aug 08 23:56 |
| ender_33 | if you setup your browser with the proxy you can tunnel and use the normal web too | Aug 08 23:57 |
| ender_33 | it doesnt suffer the issue with tor outproxy tracking | Aug 08 23:57 |
| Snit | Oh my... kids are big mud blobs. | Aug 08 23:57 |
| Snit | Oh well. That is what baths are for. | Aug 08 23:57 |
| Tom_B | http://cola.drumscum.be/i2p.png | Aug 08 23:59 |
| Tom_B | whoohoo | Aug 08 23:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Aug 08 23:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This Torchwood could be better. | Aug 08 23:59 | |
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