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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @timoreilly: LOL, with a tinge of sadness. RT @samj OH: "Now all countries with an AAA credit rating have universal health care"Aug 10 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @mo6020 @bigbrovar Only in the UK could rioters in 100 quid trainers organizing things on 300 quid smartphones claim to be in poverty...Aug 10 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] "I want to be free more than I want to be a writer." Cory Doctorow, Siggraph 2011 !dbd #nodrm http://ur1.ca/4vvilAug 10 00:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Author: Laws, DRM hurt artists - Entertainment News, Technology News, Media - Variety .::. Size~: 56.37 KBAug 10 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @joshuagay: "I want to be free more than I want to be a writer." Cory Doctorow, Siggraph 2010 !dbd #nodrm http://ur1.ca/4vvilAug 10 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Author: Laws, DRM hurt artists - Entertainment News, Technology News, Media - Variety .::. Size~: 54.97 KBAug 10 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @BreakingNews: UK far-right group leader: 1,000 members are taking to the streets to deter rioters - AP « Og yeah that'll help...Aug 10 00:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @psquid: Reports of gunshots in B'ham city centreAug 10 00:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @Asher_Wolf: RT @thirstforwine: The ubiquitous CCTV cameras in UK better prove their worth tomorrow or be scrapped #londonriots #ukriotsAug 10 00:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] China's political prisoners need help. Cisco Systems: use your economic relationship to encourage better practices. https://eff.org/r.49AAug 10 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EFF Action: .::. Size~: 22 KBAug 10 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Indians discover world’s most heat-resistant fungi http://bit.ly/qfvWjHAug 10 00:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Indians discover world’s most heat-resistant fungi | Discovery Online .::. Size~: 78.73 KBAug 10 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] New Virus Leads Drugs to HIV-Infected Cells by Tiffany Kaiser - http://bit.ly/rg0hUoAug 10 00:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DailyTech - New Virus Leads Drugs to HIV-Infected Cells .::. Size~: 67.91 KBAug 10 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] VIDEO GAME-LIKE PROGRAMS TREAT SCHIZOPHRENIA http://bit.ly/n5ByGwAug 10 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] U.K. officials call for BlackBerry network shutdown; RIM hacked after offering help to authorities http://ur1.ca/4vw48Aug 10 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Video Game-Like Programs Treat Schizophrenia : Discovery News .::. Size~: 55.84 KBAug 10 00:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.K. officials call for BlackBerry network shutdown; RIM hacked after offering help to authorities – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 20.83 KBAug 10 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] DHS Creating Database of Secret Watchlists http://ur1.ca/4vw72Aug 10 00:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DHS Creating Database of Secret Watchlists - Slashdot .::. Size~: 56.85 KBAug 10 00:56
DaemonFCthey need watchlists for their watchlists nowAug 10 01:01
DaemonFCthewy have to keep track of all their watchlists Aug 10 01:02
DaemonFCso they know who they are watchingAug 10 01:02
DaemonFCand so dangerous watchlists that are on their watchlists don't get on airplanes Aug 10 01:03
DaemonFC9/11Aug 10 01:03
DaemonFC:)Aug 10 01:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Pingdom stores passwords in plain text http://ur1.ca/4vwc9Aug 10 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Court Says Sending Too Many Emails To Someone Is Computer Hacking http://ur1.ca/4vwcyAug 10 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] According to this, Walmart had an MP3 store. Since when? http://ur1.ca/4vwe0Aug 10 01:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seldo's Tumblr, Dear Pingdom: you should not be storing my... .::. Size~: 49.56 KBAug 10 01:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Court Says Sending Too Many Emails To Someone Is Computer Hacking | Techdirt .::. Size~: 198.72 KBAug 10 01:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Walmart, Unable to Keep Up With iTunes, Shutters MP3 Store - Nicholas Jackson - Technology - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 99.69 KBAug 10 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] US court only values profitable free speech⇒ TorrentFreak: "Domain Seizures Do Not Violate Free Speech U.S. Court Rules" http://ur1.ca/4vwgjAug 10 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Google-Microsoft spat could be tiny step toward patent reform http://tinyurl.com/3bzk6d6 #swpats #google #microsoftAug 10 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @vibrance #HowTo use #OpenID - a quick #tutorial http://goo.gl/MXAkt !openidAug 10 01:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Domain Seizures Do Not Violate Free Speech, U.S. Court Rules | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 45.38 KBAug 10 01:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google-Microsoft spat could be tiny step toward patent reform .::. Size~: 38.42 KBAug 10 01:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Use OpenID - Wired How-To Wiki .::. Size~: 39.57 KBAug 10 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jonobacon I am so damn angry about all this violence in England. This is just senseless irrational violence perpetrated by total une ...Aug 10 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jonobacon If you are in Wolverhampton, be at the Man On The Horse tomorrow morning at 9am to help with the clean-up. Bring brushes a ...Aug 10 01:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Scheduled Security Reviews/Discussions Week of 8-Aug-2011 http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/08/09/scheduled-security-reviewsdiscussions-Aug 10 01:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Scheduled Security Reviews/Discussions Week of 8-Aug-2011  at  Mozilla Security Blog .::. Size~: 12.76 KBAug 10 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @psquid Food for thought http://i.imgur.com/2yBN7.jpg #ukriots !q Martin Luther King Jr.Aug 10 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psquid Food for thought. http://i.imgur.com/2yBN7.jpg #ukriotsAug 10 01:17
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DaemonFCDiablo-D3, Since foreverAug 10 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ODF Plugfest, Berlin http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/08/odf-plugfest-berlin.html #odf #libreoffice #ooo #openoffice #officeAug 10 01:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ODF Plugfest, Berlin .::. Size~: 26.87 KBAug 10 01:19
DaemonFCits tarted out as a DRM'd WMA storeAug 10 01:19
DaemonFC*startedAug 10 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @laurelrusswurm: RT @psquid Food for thought. http://i.imgur.com/2yBN7.jpg #ukriotsAug 10 01:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @latta ♺ @KateGardiner #Google Group 2 Use Facial Recognition 2 Identify London Rioters | TechCrunch http://ur1.ca/4vugn #Privacy #G+Aug 10 01:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Group Members to Use Facial Recognition to Identify London Rioters | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 52 KBAug 10 01:27
amarsh04transcript of conversation with Lee Jasper re .uk riots now online at http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2011/s3289596.htmAug 10 01:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.htmlAug 10 01:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Words to Avoid (or Use with Care) Because They Are Loaded or Confusing - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 40.91 KBAug 10 01:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Or rather, should be project-by-project decision, e.g. fine for !GNU projects to encourage copyright assignment to !fsf sayAug 10 02:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @psquid A very British riot response: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixel-eight/6024429000/in/photostream/Aug 10 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #recycling must be good; the entertainment industry do it by default #franchise #remake #reboot #sequel #prequel #copyrightAug 10 02:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 00:38 9/8/2011: Camden Town, London | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 225.38 KBAug 10 02:26
ender_33You know what is coming up for the United Kingdom?Aug 10 02:38
ender_33More CCTV, literally everywhereAug 10 02:38
ender_33More copsAug 10 02:38
ender_33Enhanced militarization of the policeAug 10 02:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 19,078 people have told Congress: don't force Internet companies to spy on us. Help us get to 20,000: https://eff.org/r.593 #privacyAug 10 02:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EFF Action: .::. Size~: 17.6 KBAug 10 02:39
DaemonFCender_33, but it keeps them safe from their citizensAug 10 02:40
DaemonFC:)Aug 10 02:40
DaemonFCthey can do anything and simply shoot anyone who protestsAug 10 02:40
DaemonFCthey'll get the message eventuallyAug 10 02:40
ender_33I bet you they also install a new type of surveillance. I'm betting microphones. The argument used will be that there is no problem listening in on anything in public.Aug 10 02:40
ender_33Even if it picks up what leaks from your home.Aug 10 02:41
DaemonFCyou open the windows and shout a lot?Aug 10 02:41
ender_33Well now I can't!Aug 10 02:41
ender_33At least the terrorists can't hurt me.Aug 10 02:42
DaemonFCuntil they doAug 10 02:42
ender_33Lets see if any of my predictions come trueAug 10 02:44
ender_33The media keeps saying police are 'powerless' to do anythingAug 10 02:44
ender_33Powerless = standing around eating donuts and watching hoping for a bigger budget next yearAug 10 02:45
DaemonFCthere goes a speeder, thank god for SAFER COMMUNITIES fundingAug 10 02:46
DaemonFCotherwise we couldn't sit out here doing nothing hitting people who are barely breaking the law with $100 ticketsAug 10 02:47
ender_33lets install a camera and bill people for speeding by 1mph/kph and by running a red by 0.7 secondsAug 10 02:47
ender_33we can drink coffee at our desks!Aug 10 02:47
ender_33I wonder if any of Roy's research into facial tracking will be used to monitor all of the UK.Aug 10 02:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] certainly keeping an eye on Plasma Active and #Contour. just read this posting from @aseigo http://is.gd/bCc10FAug 10 02:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] This week in Internet censorship: good news in Turkey, bad news in Iran, and threatened voices. https://eff.org/r.96KAug 10 02:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: aseigo: Plasma Quick Redux .::. Size~: 79.42 KBAug 10 02:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: This Week in Internet Censorship: Good News in Turkey, Bad News in Iran, and Threatened Voices | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 22.71 KBAug 10 02:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @evan AFAIR it was hold ALT and Power Off will appear. I just installed an extension to add this; I need suspend and power off!Aug 10 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: This week in Internet censorship: good news in Turkey, bad news in Iran, and threatened voices. https://eff.org/r.96KAug 10 03:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: 19,078 people have told Congress: don't force Internet companies to spy on us. Help us get to 20,000: https://eff.org/r.593 #privacyAug 10 03:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: This Week in Internet Censorship: Good News in Turkey, Bad News in Iran, and Threatened Voices | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 22.71 KBAug 10 03:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EFF Action: .::. Size~: 17.6 KBAug 10 03:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @dpic: 7 necessary ingredients for freedom in the cloud by @greve of #FSFE http://redd.it/jdwrp #FranklinStreet #lp #sfc #gnuAug 10 03:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @evan oops, hadn't seen the full message. yes, ALT. Suspend works well for my notebook, but agree it should still be available as an option!Aug 10 03:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 7 necessary ingredients for freedom in the cloud by Georg Greve of the FSFE via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.68 KBAug 10 03:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The US credit downgrade makes the US look like losers. That's the problem http://is.gd/EOmZ8sAug 10 03:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The US credit downgrade makes the US look like losers. That's the problem | Hadley Freeman | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 241.07 KBAug 10 03:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: @lozlog The link on my twitter profile gets you there... http://p.ost.im/p/eRhYXDAug 10 03:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Silicon.com: Europe needs to open up to the digital value of its cultural legacy http://t.co/pKS0F30 #psi # http://p.ost.im/p/eRYWA5Aug 10 03:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Carl-Christian Buhr: @lozlog The link on my twi ... .::. Size~: 9.86 KBAug 10 03:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Europe needs to open up to the digital value of its cultural legacy | Public Sector | silicon.com .::. Size~: 51.36 KBAug 10 03:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Carl-Christian Buhr: Silicon.com: Europe needs  ... .::. Size~: 10.24 KBAug 10 03:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Morning identigers!Aug 10 03:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is Google+ affecting Identica? It seems that several heavy denters have found Google+ more to their likingAug 10 03:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "Too brilliant not to post:" https://plus.google.com/114765095157367281222/posts/cYuXF3PwFuXAug 10 03:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chris DiBona - Google+ .::. Size~: 57.35 KBAug 10 03:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @abdza every time I need to put up with something stupid I feel like quitting my job.. does that make me weak? a quitter?Aug 10 03:57
amarsh04ABC radio is reporting how the wealthiest 1000 people in .uk have increased their wealth by 30 percentAug 10 04:01
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ender_33did those 1000 team up?Aug 10 04:28
ender_33sounds made upAug 10 04:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Man against machine.Aug 10 04:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The revolution will not be televised on CNN, BBC and the rest of the western media. The revolution will be live.Aug 10 04:29
ender_331000 people all increasing wealth by 30% at the same time without teaming upAug 10 04:30
ender_33or 1000 who prepurchased insurance and made 30% off the riotsAug 10 04:31
ender_33sources help, but the press don't need anyAug 10 04:31
ender_33on a side note, I now like duck duck goAug 10 04:32
ender_33they don't try to block i2p users like google doesAug 10 04:32
ender_33its even super fastAug 10 04:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The revolution will take over the streets.. .Aug 10 04:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Beat the darned lock!Aug 10 04:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] The “App Model” and the Web http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2011/08/09/the-app-model-and-the-web/Aug 10 04:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The “App Model” and the Web | Mitchell's Blog .::. Size~: 19.86 KBAug 10 04:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] The “App Model” and the Web - !Mozilla 's Mitchell Baker http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2011/08/09/the-app-model-and-the-web/Aug 10 05:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 3 men run down by car in #Birmingham driven by suspected #rioters, 2 died, 1 fighting for his life :(Aug 10 05:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The “App Model” and the Web | Mitchell's Blog .::. Size~: 19.86 KBAug 10 05:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Wow. Huge chunk of ice broken off from Arctic following March tsunami - http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=51665 #fbAug 10 05:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Antarctic Icebergs Chipped off by Tsunami : Image of the Day .::. Size~: 23.61 KBAug 10 05:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Fundamentalist sect leader jailed for life for sex with child brides http://gu.com/p/3x5bp about time #WarrenJeffs was finally jailedAug 10 05:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fundamentalist sect leader jailed for life for sex with child brides | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 93.63 KBAug 10 05:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Wednesday's !InconstantMoon serialization is online: http://ur1.ca/4vyb6 !SelfPubAug 10 05:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Inconstant Moon – 75 .::. Size~: 15.25 KBAug 10 05:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @evan Q: What's a chicken's favorite kind of beer? A: Bock!Aug 10 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I have to say, Destructos vs. The Earth Attack from the new #morbidangel is kinda cool. If there were deep growls, could be Cannibal Corpse.Aug 10 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Lecture notes on Entrepreneurship by @bleongcw now on CC - http://ur1.ca/4vycu #fbAug 10 05:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Entrepreneurship 1: Introduction, Identifying Ideas & Business Opportunities | Bernard Leong .::. Size~: 39.51 KBAug 10 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @psquid Yep, that's sound. http://www.x11r5.com/p/80HPdwGAug 10 05:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: X11R5 Wisdom .::. Size~: 2.11 KBAug 10 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mjray Published Software in the Public Interest August 2011 - and election results #coops http://tinyurl.com/4yqqfkhAug 10 06:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software in the Public Interest August 2011 – and election results | Software Cooperative News .::. Size~: 28.13 KBAug 10 06:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Hey authors: "Random House Royalty Switcheroo" http://ur1.ca/4vyi1 /via @wayneborean <another indicator why !SelfPub is the only way to goAug 10 06:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Random House Royalty Switcheroo | The Passive Voice .::. Size~: 68.67 KBAug 10 06:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] danah boyd | apophenia: “Real Names” Policies Are an Abuse of Power http://ur1.ca/4uni9 /via @wayneborean #G+ #pseudonymity !privacyAug 10 06:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: danah boyd | apophenia  » “Real Names” Policies Are an Abuse of Power .::. Size~: 111.6 KBAug 10 06:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Goodnight !IdentiverseAug 10 06:49
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schestowitz[02:38] <ender_33> Enhanced militarization of the policeAug 10 06:53
schestowitzrubber bulletsAug 10 06:53
DaemonFCrubber nuclear warheadsAug 10 06:53
DaemonFCthose should disperse the "chavs"Aug 10 06:53
DaemonFCschestowitz, They could use beanbag bullets, those don't seriously injur, they just hurt like hellAug 10 06:54
DaemonFCit's possible to kill someone or break bones with rubber bulletsAug 10 06:54
DaemonFCmost non-lethal weapons manage to kill a number of people the police use them on and still get labeled non-lethalAug 10 06:56
DaemonFCstrange isn't it?Aug 10 06:56
amarsh04bean-bag bullets have been used in .auAug 10 07:03
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/08/samsung-remove-ubuntu-logo-galaxy-ii-ad/Aug 10 07:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samsung Remove Ubuntu Logo From Galaxy Ad [Updated with video] | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 72.57 KBAug 10 07:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] 'The day people think #linux would be better served by somebody else ( !FSF being the natural alternative), I'll "abdicate".' - Linus 1992Aug 10 07:04
MinceRafaik all "non-lethal" weapons have a chance of seriously injuring or killing the targetAug 10 07:11
ender_33what about the sound based onesAug 10 07:13
MinceRi'm not sure if i know themAug 10 07:14
DaemonFCMinceR is tasered by Officer Doughnut......*CRITICAL STRIKE*... MinceR is vanquishedAug 10 07:14
MinceRDaemonFC: i dough nut like them!Aug 10 07:14
DaemonFChe's Officer Friendly's partnerAug 10 07:15
DaemonFCMinceR, One day I got stopped by a state police officer who must have been bordering on 300 pounds, had a real gnarly beard tooAug 10 07:16
ender_33they used them in IraqAug 10 07:16
MinceRDaemonFC: :>Aug 10 07:16
DaemonFCas soon as I rolled up the window and drove off I shouted "ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!?!?!?"Aug 10 07:16
MinceRender_33: can you recall their name?Aug 10 07:16
DaemonFCUbuntu claims to have GNOME 3.1.4Aug 10 07:18
ender_33!google 01:42 < ReignedWing> what, the fbi backdoor?Aug 10 07:18
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - 01.com | Zimbra Hosting & Enterprise Server Care | http://www.01.com/Aug 10 07:19
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Nokia C6-01 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_C6-01Aug 10 07:19
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Korg 01/W | Vintage Synth Explorer | http://www.vintagesynth.com/korg/01w.phpAug 10 07:19
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 01 Communique | http://www.01com.com/Aug 10 07:19
DaemonFCdoes that mean you can use GNOME 3.1.4 or you must use Unity because they still don't package the shell?Aug 10 07:19
ender_33!google Pentagon's Secret ScreamAug 10 07:19
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Secret Scream | The Pentagon's Secret Scream - Los Angeles Times | http://articles.latimes.com/2004/mar/07/opinion/op-arkin7Aug 10 07:19
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Marines' weapon loaded with 'scream' | Mail Online | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-299742/Marines-weapon-loaded-scream.htmlAug 10 07:19
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - US Marines Armed With 'Secret Scream' Gun - Military and Weaponry ... | http://www.inreview.com/archive/topic/18495.htmlAug 10 07:19
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Xenophilia - News Archives: Technology | http://xenophilia.com/str_tech04.htmAug 10 07:19
MinceRthanksAug 10 07:19
MinceRwell, that can inflict permanent deafnessAug 10 07:19
ender_33!google ELF silent weaponsAug 10 07:20
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Drow (Dungeons & Dragons) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drow_(Dungeons_%2526_Dragons)Aug 10 07:20
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Orgone As A Self Defense Weapon | http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/sherry/orgone.htmlAug 10 07:20
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - LineageDB - Lineage 1 Beginner's Dark Elf Guide | http://www.lineagedb.com/character/de_guide.phpAug 10 07:20
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - HAARP.net - The Military's Pandora's Box by Dr. Nick Begich and ... | http://www.haarp.net/Aug 10 07:20
MinceRlolAug 10 07:20
ender_33!google silent weapons for quiet warsAug 10 07:20
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars - The Lawful Path | http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/sw4qw/Aug 10 07:20
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars | http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/silent_weapons_quiet_wars.htmAug 10 07:20
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Amazon.com: Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars (9781933929026): Cody ... | http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Weapons-Quiet-Wars-Goodfellow/dp/1933929022Aug 10 07:20
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Silent Weapons For a Quiet War | http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/silentweaponsforquietwars.htmAug 10 07:20
DaemonFC!google underwear gnomesAug 10 07:21
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Gnomes (South Park) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnomes_(South_Park)Aug 10 07:21
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - South Park Underpants Gnomes Profit plan‏ - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DTBiSI6OdqvAAug 10 07:21
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Gnomes (Season 2, Episode 17) - Episode Guide - South Park Studios | http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/episodes/s02e17-gnomesAug 10 07:21
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Urban Dictionary: underwear gnome economics | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dunderwear%2520gnome%2520economicsAug 10 07:21
ender_33hey DaemonAug 10 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unfair To Blame Technology For Assisting U.K. Rioters, Say Experts http://ur1.ca/4vyoa they're messing Manchester up http://ur1.ca/4vyoeAug 10 07:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unfair To Blame Technology For Assisting U.K. Rioters, Say Experts - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 135.82 KBAug 10 07:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - 'Shameful' rioting in Greater Manchester .::. Size~: 66.88 KBAug 10 07:23
schestowitzManc video shows the mess that went on overnightAug 10 07:23
DaemonFChttp://www.linuxuser.co.uk/opinion/ubuntu-11-10-alpha-3-behind-the-scenes-with-oneiric-ocelot/Aug 10 07:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.10 Alpha 3 – behind the scenes with Oneiric Ocelot | Linux User .::. Size~: 59.76 KBAug 10 07:24
DaemonFCthat's pretty tackyAug 10 07:24
DaemonFChttp://www.linuxuser.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/software-centre.pngAug 10 07:24
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MinceRlolAug 10 07:24
DaemonFCon the right side, it looks like someone squiggled that with their left footAug 10 07:27
DaemonFCand it takes up a third of the windowAug 10 07:27
MinceRis that official or edited?Aug 10 07:27
ender_33edited of courseAug 10 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now! http://ur1.ca/4vniv #gnu #linux #redhatAug 10 07:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 2 (RC2) AvailableNow! .::. Size~: 5.9 KBAug 10 07:28
ender_33you need to throw in the dramatic musicAug 10 07:28
ender_33make it all emotionalAug 10 07:28
ender_33'this is youth gang violence, this is senseless destruction with no purose'Aug 10 07:28
ender_33'sir, why are you stealing that tv?'Aug 10 07:29
ender_33'bankers got *their* bonus, this is mine'Aug 10 07:29
ender_33'see folks, no purpose'Aug 10 07:29
ender_33'This message has been sponsored by the government'Aug 10 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Installing #Gentoo on a Notebook in 2011 http://ur1.ca/4vyqr "I am glad I decided to give Gentoo another shot on a notebook" #gnu #linuxAug 10 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Installing #Gentoo on a Notebook in 2011 http://ur1.ca/4vyqr "I am glad I decided to give Gentoo another shot on a noteb ...Aug 10 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz !Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Available Now! http://ur1.ca/4vniv #gnu #linux #redhatAug 10 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @ddhuy Anonymous Vows Facebook Destruction on November 5th 2011 http://ur1.ca/4vyks !anonymous !FacebookAug 10 07:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Installing Gentoo on a Notebook in 2011 - Techgage .::. Size~: 25.6 KBAug 10 07:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Installing Gentoo on a Notebook in 2011 - Techgage .::. Size~: 25.71 KBAug 10 07:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 2 (RC2) AvailableNow! .::. Size~: 5.9 KBAug 10 07:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anonymous Vows Facebook Destruction on November 5th 2011 - SlashGear .::. Size~: 54.89 KBAug 10 07:34
DaemonFCit looks like Fedora 16 is already defaulting to GRUB 2Aug 10 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @speeddefrost: "Lets make our pages fixed-width to piss off our users" Hey idiots, we're not users, we're devs and your "design" is shitAug 10 07:38
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/reverse-natural-scrolling-ubuntu-os-lion/Aug 10 07:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [How to] Enable OS X Lion-style ‘Natural Scrolling’ in Ubuntu | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 141.69 KBAug 10 07:38
DaemonFCmore goodies for MinceR Aug 10 07:38
MinceRmehAug 10 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] tip for tracking flashdrives: add a file whose name is yours & emailID & chmod 444. eg: chmod 444 @@myname-email@email.com #fbAug 10 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Debian GNU/kFreeBSD on production http://ur1.ca/4vyrg "Debian GNU/kFreeBSD, was it meant for production or just a “toy machine”?"Aug 10 07:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD on production « Robert Millan's blog .::. Size~: 37.74 KBAug 10 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] An excellent description of C: 4chan BBS - The C Paradox - http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1312655446/4Aug 10 07:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 4chan BBS - The C Paradox .::. Size~: 5.99 KBAug 10 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linus Hates GNOME 3 and I Don't http://ur1.ca/4vys2 maybe he found something better, at least we have choiceAug 10 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does Linus Run Linux Mint? http://ur1.ca/4vysa !Fedora has an #xfce versionAug 10 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] corruption is a huge problem in the west, or as we like to call it; lobbyingAug 10 07:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linus Hates GNOME 3 and I Don't | Marcel Gagné .::. Size~: 31.13 KBAug 10 07:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Does Linus Run Linux Mint? .::. Size~: 39.01 KBAug 10 07:48
schestowitzThe rioters are "trying to bring us down to their level" - my mateAug 10 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @speeddefrost The exact minute browser developers started focusing on Javascript more than everything else is when the "web" went to ...Aug 10 07:51
DaemonFCLinux Mint XFCE isn't based on UbuntuAug 10 07:52
DaemonFCit's a rolling release based on Debian TestingAug 10 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Lenovo ThinkPad Tablets: A Closer Look From Inside Lenovo http://ur1.ca/4vyso it runs #linuxAug 10 07:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lenovo ThinkPad Tablets: A Closer Look From Inside Lenovo | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 76.98 KBAug 10 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Lenovo ThinkPad Tablets: A Closer Look From Inside Lenovo http://ur1.ca/4vyso it runs #linuxAug 10 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Now there is looting in #oldham street, even away from the town's centre. Seems like a bad day to be out and about. #ukAug 10 07:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lenovo ThinkPad Tablets: A Closer Look From Inside Lenovo | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 76.98 KBAug 10 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @bobduffy: RT @algesdk: ALGE SDK Allows you to Deploy your same App to Mac OSX Appstore , iOS App Store, Intel Appup Store and Androi...Aug 10 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qole: Thanks to @javispedro I can now chroot into my Easy Debian image under Harmattan! #n950club http://t.co/O218uGbAug 10 07:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [N950] Infodump Thread - Page 2 - maemo.org - Talk .::. Size~: 69.65 KBAug 10 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @jukkaeklund: RT @cybette: MeeGo Bunny decides to start blogging! http://bit.ly/rhLsX5Aug 10 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @rgunjan RT @Nicole_Scooter RT @intel The Intel Developer Forum Keynotes have been announced. Check th... http://intel.ly/nwVSSo #IDF2011Aug 10 07:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo Bunny (a.k.a. cybette): First 5 weeks as MNFI Community Manager .::. Size~: 55.91 KBAug 10 07:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intel Developer Forum 2011 Keynotes Discuss the Latest in Breakthrough Technology .::. Size~: 39.97 KBAug 10 07:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 13 Books on the Future of Money & New Economy - http://bit.ly/oFH76J sounds fascinating; wish I had time to read themAug 10 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Turn The Tables On Patent Trolls - http://onforb.es/qn0U3X reasonable answers to the wrong question #abolitionAug 10 08:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 13 Books on the Future of Money & New Economy « emergent by design .::. Size~: 90.97 KBAug 10 08:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Turn The Tables On Patent Trolls - CIO Central - CIO Network - Forbes .::. Size~: 114 KBAug 10 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @rms Urgent: Support location data law http://ur1.ca/4vysyAug 10 08:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 723.75 KBAug 10 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Now there is looting in #oldham street, even away from the town's centre. Seems like a bad day to be out and about. #ukAug 10 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Password Strength - http://bit.ly/r2iiW6 wise advice from #xkcdAug 10 08:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: xkcd: Password Strength .::. Size~: 8.15 KBAug 10 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The “App Model” and the Web - http://bit.ly/qbWXOM the Chief Lizard Wrangler explains #mozilla #opennessAug 10 08:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The “App Model” and the Web | Mitchell's Blog .::. Size~: 22.36 KBAug 10 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Five reasons to stay off Google+ for now http://ur1.ca/4vyx3 @sjvn too does not need to be indexed/catalogued in another proprietary DBAug 10 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Five reasons to stay off Google+ for now | ZDNet .::. Size~: 148.46 KBAug 10 08:23
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/look-out-skype-google-makes-its-voip-service-international/1319Aug 10 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Look out Skype! Google makes its VoIP service international | ZDNet .::. Size~: 141.7 KBAug 10 08:23
schestowitzWe might use it for techbytes at some stageAug 10 08:23
schestowitzgoblin has tested thisAug 10 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] Plasma Active BoF is on! a whole day of Plasma lay before us like a smorgasboard. active, kwin, desktop, ... wooO!Aug 10 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody The “App Model” and the Web - http://bit.ly/qbWXOM the Chief Lizard Wrangler explains #mozilla #opennessAug 10 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Walmart pulling the plug on its MP3 store, but not its DRM servers - http://bit.ly/oSZBGH NB: even Walmart suffers consequences of #DRMAug 10 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Company Claims Patents On Generating A Map From A Database; Getting Real Estate Industry To Pay Up - http://bit.ly/mYIlLo no comment neededAug 10 08:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The “App Model” and the Web | Mitchell's Blog .::. Size~: 22.36 KBAug 10 08:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Walmart pulling the plug on its MP3 store, but not its DRM servers .::. Size~: 31.42 KBAug 10 08:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Company Claims Patents On Generating A Map From A Database; Getting Real Estate Industry To Pay Up | Techdirt .::. Size~: 86.67 KBAug 10 08:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Oracle v. #Google - The '720 Patent In Play In Reexam - http://bit.ly/rlmgyT & so it goes on...Aug 10 08:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Oracle v. Google - The '720 Patent In Play In Reexam .::. Size~: 30.35 KBAug 10 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Humble Indie Bundle #3 Does More Than Two Million Dollars http://ur1.ca/4vyzo making money by giving away.Aug 10 08:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Humble Indie Bundle #3 Does More Than Two Million Dollars .::. Size~: 17.44 KBAug 10 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @psquid POP! http://i.imgur.com/1PuMq.gif #flailingarmsAug 10 08:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates-funded group disses Linux and predicts success for Vista 7 just like it did Vista in 2007 http://ur1.ca/4vz0s http://ur1.ca/1cntqAug 10 08:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 7 will dominate by year's end, Gartner says - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.8 KBAug 10 08:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gartner Group - Techrights .::. Size~: 40.03 KBAug 10 08:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 3 years ago #Gartner said #Linux had 4% market share on desktops, now they say it will 'climb' to 2% in 5 years. Way to phase in lies...Aug 10 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just got a massive new DB from Texas (~100 GB) on which to test our algorithm. Exciting! #computervision #researchAug 10 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME Shell Multi-Touch Support State http://ur1.ca/4vz23 #multitouch #gnu #linuxAug 10 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anti-Piracy Lawyers Accuse Blind Man of Downloading Porn - http://bit.ly/rmPQVD ah, such warm human beingsAug 10 08:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] GNOME Shell Multi-Touch Support State .::. Size~: 17 KBAug 10 08:58
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schestowitzMan who put the shop on fire caught on tape, with faceAug 10 09:00
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx1PG-hVeZYAug 10 09:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‪MANCHESTER RIOTS - Man sets Miss Selfridge on fire - 10/08/2011‬‏       - YouTube .::. Size~: 93.6 KBAug 10 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Anti-Piracy Lawyers Accuse Blind Man of Downloading Porn - http://bit.ly/rmPQVD ah, such warm human beingsAug 10 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Measuring Search-Redirection Attacks in Illicit Online Prescription Drug Trade - http://bit.ly/qpaZde "pervasive search-redirection attacks"Aug 10 09:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Light Blue Touchpaper  » Blog Archive   » Measuring Search-Redirection Attacks in the Illicit Online Prescription Drug Trade .::. Size~: 15.04 KBAug 10 09:04
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/AMD-Llano-SDK-and-OpenGL-version-32/?kc=rssAug 10 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software updates help tap into GPU power - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.4 KBAug 10 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #ThingsTheySayAboutMe "A work in progress"Aug 10 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Six Best Linux Community Server Distributions http://ur1.ca/4vmud Carla Schroder reviews what's out there. #gnu #linux #serverAug 10 09:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ted Ts'o and Ingo Molnar don't like Gnome 3 http://ur1.ca/4ur2v what's with #linux devs using the proprietary G+ as their hangout?Aug 10 09:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ingo Molnar - Google+ .::. Size~: 226.37 KBAug 10 09:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @meegoexperts Video Demo of Contour on Plasma Active – £MeeGo at DeskTop Summit http://mge.bz/iZ #DS2011 #MeeGo #Tablet #LinuxAug 10 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #QuakeCon 2011 - John Carmack Keynote http://ur1.ca/4vz7u [flash warning]Aug 10 09:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/101204908723802113Aug 10 09:28
TechrightsBot-tr@davidgerard: @schestowitz they used to use the proprietary LiveJournal more (though some have moved to Dreamwidth)Aug 10 09:28
schestowitzLinux uses blogspot (also proprietary), he ought to just register a domain and put drupal/wordpress on itAug 10 09:29
Tom_BLinuS you mean?Aug 10 09:29
Tom_BWell, if he's comfortable with using blogspot, then so be it.Aug 10 09:30
Tom_BBut yes, it would be nice if he went for one of the open source alternatives...Aug 10 09:30
schestowitzmanchester evening news.. ought to say if it's safe to go to townAug 10 09:31
schestowitzTom_B: yes, typoAug 10 09:31
schestowitzhttp://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1455176_how-the-two-proud-cities-of-manchester-and-salford-descended-into-violence-and-mayhemAug 10 09:32
schestowitzhttp://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1455173_live-more-than-100-arrested-as-rioting-youths-go-on-rampage-one-of-the-worst-days-in-manchesters-history---videos-and-picturesAug 10 09:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How the two proud cities of Manchester and Salford descended into violence and mayhem | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk .::. Size~: 72.65 KBAug 10 09:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Live: More than 100 arrested as rioting youths go on rampage 'one of the worst days in Manchester's history' - videos and pictures | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk .::. Size~: 84.73 KBAug 10 09:33
schestowitz"This is just organised plunder. There has been a degree of organisation through social networking sites. It is youths trying to steal training shoes, clothes, and anything else they can get.Aug 10 09:35
schestowitzTHe fire engine we saw on the way back... http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1455173_live-more-than-100-arrested-as-rioting-youths-go-on-rampage-one-of-the-worst-days-in-manchesters-history---videos-and-picturesAug 10 09:36
schestowitzvideo at the bottom Aug 10 09:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Live: More than 100 arrested as rioting youths go on rampage 'one of the worst days in Manchester's history' - videos and pictures | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk .::. Size~: 84.73 KBAug 10 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Galapagos tablet runs Android 3.2 http://ur1.ca/4vza1 "a seven-inch, 1024 x 600-pixel "Galapagos A01SH" tablet running Android 3.2" #linuxAug 10 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seven-inch Sharp Galapagos tablet runs Android 3.2 - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.27 KBAug 10 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft's 'cloud' crashes and burns http://ur1.ca/4vzah http://ur1.ca/4vzaiAug 10 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz Ted Ts'o and Ingo Molnar don't like Gnome 3 http://ur1.ca/4ur2v what's with #linux devs using the proprietary G+ as thei ...Aug 10 09:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft gives BPOS customers credit note for latest crash • The Register .::. Size~: 18.9 KBAug 10 09:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon, Microsoft Data Centers Go Down Without Much Fanfare - View From Above .::. Size~: 48.66 KBAug 10 09:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Catowl http://i.imgur.com/qUNFe.jpgAug 10 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Been watching videos of the riots for the past 2 hours, it seems like the police has taken control of the streets here again. #barbarismAug 10 09:49
DaemonFCgreatAug 10 09:55
DaemonFCI just hit my new TV with a bad firmware updateAug 10 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The riots will cause more policing, more CCTV/wiretapping/surveillance. mostly at the public's expense and freedomAug 10 09:56
MinceRgeekingsAug 10 09:57
DaemonFCoh well, it's an excuse to just go to sleep and deal with this tomorrowAug 10 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Baidu Shuts Its Microblog Service, Handing Victory To Sina - http://bit.ly/oC1gQA pretty dramatic #china #microblogsAug 10 10:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Baidu Shuts Its Microblog Service, Handing Victory To Sina                                                     |  paidContent .::. Size~: 43.69 KBAug 10 10:03
DaemonFCif all else fails, I can play the idiot "it doesn't work" card and return it to Walmart Aug 10 10:03
DaemonFCI've sent a support email about this already :PAug 10 10:03
DaemonFCI've had a no name TV where the firmware updates always workedAug 10 10:05
DaemonFCdon't they test this shit?Aug 10 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Residents Form Anti-Riot Patrols - http://bit.ly/otoXwW we'll be seeing many more of these #londonriotsAug 10 10:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Residents Form Anti-Riot Patrols | Londonist .::. Size~: 34.87 KBAug 10 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Pandigital launches $159 #Android #tablet with Cortex-A9 processor http://ur1.ca/4vzcx "$170 Nova and $180 Planet tablet" #linux #deviceAug 10 10:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pandigital launches $159 Android tablet with Cortex-A9 processor - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.49 KBAug 10 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] New Thunderbird Beta Available for Download and Testing https://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2011/08/10/new-thunderbird-beta-avaiAug 10 10:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Developer News  » Blog Archive   » New Thunderbird Beta Available for Download and Testing .::. Size~: 23.43 KBAug 10 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Sales of baseball bats on Amazon have apparently risen by 5000%... determination to defend themselves." http://ur1.ca/4vzeu #ukAug 10 10:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Residents Form Anti-Riot Patrols | Londonist .::. Size~: 35.89 KBAug 10 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jrepin @meegoexperts Video Demo of Contour on Plasma Active – £MeeGo at DeskTop Summit http://mge.bz/iZ #DS2011 #MeeGo #Tablet #LinuxAug 10 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Anti-Piracy Lawyers Accuse Blind Man of Downloading Porn - http://bit.ly/rmPQVD ah, such warm human beingsAug 10 10:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @psquid RT @rpcutts "We'll stay open. If they steal some books they might learn something" - Waterstones employee.Aug 10 10:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 10/8/2011: Linux/Android Tablets Multiply, OpenGL 4.2 is Coming http://ur1.ca/4vzjm !techrightsAug 10 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 10/8/2011: Linux/Android Tablets Multiply, OpenGL 4.2 is Coming http://ur1.ca/4vzjm #techrightsAug 10 10:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @clacke RT @psquid RT @rpcutts "We'll stay open. If they steal some books they might learn something" - Waterstones employee.Aug 10 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @thistleweb: ♺ @laurelrusswurm: RT @psquid Food for thought. http://i.imgur.com/2yBN7.jpg #ukriotsAug 10 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mairin: Google. You've got some smart, cool people. Why, oh why, are you being so obstinately STUPID? http://ur1.ca/4vxvv #nymwarsAug 10 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @shocm: Sony warehouse burns in London riots | Digital Media - CNET News http://ow.ly/5ZoqrAug 10 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @thistleweb: 3 men run down by car in #Birmingham driven by suspected #rioters, 2 died, 1 fighting for his life :(Aug 10 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @fontana: 'The day people think #linux would be better served by somebody else ..., I'll "abdicate".' - Linus 1992Aug 10 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rms: Rumsfeld Sued For Torture http://ur1.ca/4vz20Aug 10 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jabz: Just ditched #banshee for #cmus. http://cmus.sourceforge.net/ - Music from console just got sexy again! #linux #mp3 Love It!Aug 10 11:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @glynmoody #Baidu Shuts Its Microblog Service, Handing Victory To Sina - http://bit.ly/oC1gQA pretty dramatic #china #microblogsAug 10 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jonobacon: If you are in Wolverhampton, be at the Man On The Horse tomorrow morning at 9am to help with the clean-up. Bring brushes...Aug 10 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Desktop Summit: Copyright assignments http://lwn.net/Articles/454391/rssAug 10 11:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Beachgoers urged to report endangered leatherback turtle sightings - http://bit.ly/qcuAth "lured by the huge number of jellyfish"Aug 10 11:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Browserscene: Creating Demos on the Web – Presentation at ASSEMBLY http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/08/browserscene-creating-demos-on-the-web-pAug 10 11:16
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schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/07/25/welcome-to-wintels-treadmill/Aug 10 11:40
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schestowitz[11:24] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @sandersch: Installing VM with CentOS 6 through virt-manager on my remote server. !Linux rules.Aug 10 11:41
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schestowitz[11:33] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [eebrah/@eebrah] RT @reality @sandersch libvirt is Jesus.Aug 10 11:41
schestowitz[11:36] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [eebrah/@eebrah] RT @jrobertson I wonder how many of those London rioters are dillushioned #Microsoft Windows users.Aug 10 11:41
schestowitz[11:36] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ribbit croaks, just three years after $105m BT deal - http://bit.ly/nVJHys not surprised, never understood the logicAug 10 11:41
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schestowitz[11:28] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [eebrah/@eebrah] RT @reality I mean Apple, often, don't even let companies purchase licences for patents. Seriously fuck those guys.Aug 10 11:41
schestowitzFreenode iffy todayAug 10 11:41
schestowitzthe logger fell off the networkAug 10 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Enter the duckpond: Sweden's media and the Assange case http://t.co/AvQILPp http://t.co/EzHOgeTAug 10 11:48
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msb_Is anyone here using the Pan newsreader?  I'm having a weird problem with it and I need someone to run a quick test.Aug 10 12:11
schestowitzhttp://www.isuppli.com/Home-and-Consumer-Electronics/News/Pages/Rising-Media-Tablet-and-Smartphone-Sales-Cut-Demand-for-Single-Task-Consumer-Products.aspxAug 10 12:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Phoney FUD http://ur1.ca/4w00i “In a survey of 216 mobile phone users conducted one recent week in Minneapolis” > Like asking your matesAug 10 12:29
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schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/08/05/bea-interim-report-on-af447-crash-grim/Aug 10 12:35
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schestowitz"Aug 10 12:35
schestowitz20 seconds before impact:Aug 10 12:36
schestowitz    * Captain: “Watch out you’re pitching up there”Aug 10 12:36
schestowitz    * Co-pilot: “I’m pitching up?”Aug 10 12:36
schestowitz    * Other Co-pilot: “Well we need to we are at four thousand feet”Aug 10 12:36
schestowitzThis was after the plane stalled at high altitude in the dark in a storm with great turbulence and with the captain in his resting room. In the confusion of turbulence, stall buffeting, instrument readings coming and going and no angle of attack readout, the flight crew did not realize the plane was stalled and in a serious nose-up attitude for three minutes of rapid descent. By the time the captain realized what was happening it was Aug 10 12:36
schestowitztoo late and the men in both seats pushed the controls in opposite directions. Essentially the plane and crew were out of control.Aug 10 12:36
schestowitz"Aug 10 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU/Linux Desktop: Not Dead. Thriving. http://ur1.ca/4w02m criticism of a poor pieceAug 10 12:41
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schestowitzGoogle Groups has not stopped syndicating USENET http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/topics?lnk=srgAug 10 12:44
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schestowitzIn fact, it allows posting to them tooAug 10 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Joke of the Year Told by Gartner http://ur1.ca/4w03k #Gartner is not just a joke, it's a serious competition problem http://ur1.ca/1cntqAug 10 12:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] Chomsky: Public Education Under Massive Corporate Assault — What's Next? → http://bit.ly/pXuQDeAug 10 12:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bruce Schneier’s Telepathic Takeover of the TSA - http://bit.ly/qoRTUp "Schneier is a telepath of unimaginable power": ha!Aug 10 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Aardman’s Next Animations: Geeky Christmas, Hammy Pirates - http://bit.ly/o0PViK fab: #piracy meets #Darwin meets #DrWho...Aug 10 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK epetition: Amend Our Extradition Legislation As Promised - http://bit.ly/ng06VQ would help O'Dwyer; pl. sign & RT if poss.Aug 10 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @ioerror It looks like #OpenLeaks will be running at leaks.taz.deAug 10 13:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open source develops the future of downtown Raleigh | http://red.ht/qjFbaz #opengovAug 10 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jrepin Chomsky: Public Education Under Massive Corporate Assault — What's Next? → http://bit.ly/pXuQDeAug 10 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ioerror It looks like #OpenLeaks will be running at leaks.taz.deAug 10 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @glynmoody Anti-Piracy Lawyers Accuse Blind Man of Downloading Porn - http://bit.ly/rmPQVD ah, such warm human beingsAug 10 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @jrobertson I wonder how many of those London rioters are dillushioned #Microsoft Windows users.Aug 10 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Do's and Dont's of effective Free Software advocacy http://ur1.ca/4w07p thanks @samtuke !fsfe !fsfs !gnuAug 10 13:31
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/80636200Aug 10 13:33
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 12:09:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Ted works for Google... So...Aug 10 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Distribution Release: Network Security Toolkit 2.15.0 http://ping.fm/24bySAug 10 13:41
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ender_3304:22 < schestowitz> Linux uses blogspot (also proprietary), he ought to just register a domain and put drupal/wordpress on  itAug 10 13:41
ender_33thats a nice financial burden just to be 'free'Aug 10 13:42
schestowitzLinusAug 10 13:42
ender_33websites aren't freeAug 10 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ghostscript 9.04 released with advanced color control http://ping.fm/PSVJOAug 10 13:43
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schestowitzfreedom is not freeAug 10 13:43
schestowitzIt's not supposed to be gratisAug 10 13:43
ender_33is he not free to make that choice?Aug 10 13:43
schestowitzjust two similar worksAug 10 13:43
schestowitz*WordsAug 10 13:43
schestowitzhe is free to make that choiceAug 10 13:43
ender_33what happened to the freedom to cut off your own handsAug 10 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !blender ⚫ FreeStyle Sculpting Tech Demo http://ping.fm/8gkTnAug 10 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Police release first images of suspected looters from #Manchester riot http://ur1.ca/4w0awAug 10 13:44
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ender_33he should have his blog in the community, should be just plain text files in a github repoAug 10 13:44
schestowitz"Around 100 properties were seriously damaged and 155 fires were started as a trail of destruction was left across the region."Aug 10 13:45
ender_33funAug 10 13:45
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schestowitz"More than 1,000 incidents were reported in Salford and Manchester city centre from 6pm yesterday  evening and so far 113 people have been arrested."Aug 10 13:45
schestowitzhttp://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1455177_fear-closes-600-pubs-clubs-and-restaurants-in-manchester-city-centre?related_linkAug 10 13:46
schestowitzStill not clear if it's safe to hang out todayAug 10 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Apple is also suing #Motorola in Europe over the Xoom tablet's design - http://bit.ly/pvAQyx because, you know, it's *rectangular*Aug 10 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Love Trap !Android Malware Found in Third-Party App Stores http://ping.fm/Qfyy1Aug 10 13:46
ender_33Why not?Aug 10 13:46
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ender_33its just youth stealing stuff rightAug 10 13:46
schestowitzThere might still be gangs of lootersAug 10 13:46
ender_33dont bring valuables and you'll be safeAug 10 13:46
ender_33gangs of looters, youth gangs stealingAug 10 13:47
ender_33the mantraAug 10 13:47
schestowitzyou seem not to have paid attentionAug 10 13:47
ender_33oh I have, more attention than you I'm afraidAug 10 13:48
ender_33word for word, the same slogans and mantrasAug 10 13:48
schestowitzIt's rainy anyway... http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9Aug 10 13:48
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schestowitzI'll just not go to the gym today then...Aug 10 13:48
ender_33just think of it this wayAug 10 13:49
ender_33what a better way to _burn_ some caloriesAug 10 13:49
schestowitzI agree to meet someone there around this hour, will cancel now... the riots disrupted so muchAug 10 13:49
schestowitzender_33: wood and clothAug 10 13:49
schestowitzSo much for edible calories, eh?Aug 10 13:49
ender_33you better get some laws passed to make sure the rioters don't winAug 10 13:49
schestowitzMaybe if you're mothAug 10 13:49
schestowitzender_33: that's what they'll doAug 10 13:50
schestowitzUnfortunatelyAug 10 13:50
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ender_33nah it was a joke about them setting the place on fire while you were burning caloriesAug 10 13:50
ender_33_burning_ caloriesAug 10 13:50
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UscFYYCKOxgAug 10 13:50
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schestowitzHm... I see the loon gave this coverage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UscFYYCKOxgAug 10 13:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] WRT to the Apple v Samsung import/selling injunction. AFAICS you will still be able to buy them in Switzerland in the f... http://b1t.it/ve2Aug 10 13:53
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ender_33I suspect you loved the 'Everything is Alright' videos until you found out it was sarcasm.Aug 10 13:55
schestowitzno, it's clear what it was all alongAug 10 13:56
schestowitzHis mate, Danny, got arrsted tooAug 10 13:56
schestowitzUnrelated chargesAug 10 13:56
ender_33'The government would _never_ do _that'Aug 10 13:56
schestowitzDid I say that? :-)Aug 10 13:56
ender_33YeahAug 10 13:56
ender_33you didnt like that they were accusing the government of 7/7Aug 10 13:56
schestowitzWhy do you think I'm opposite side of yours and make up claims?Aug 10 13:56
schestowitzI never said thatAug 10 13:57
ender_33I can pull a quoteAug 10 13:57
schestowitzender_33: that's separateAug 10 13:57
ender_33it'll take a google searchAug 10 13:57
schestowitzLOL you mix things like crazyAug 10 13:57
ender_33mix?Aug 10 13:58
ender_33example?Aug 10 13:59
schestowitzYou know what you did thereAug 10 14:00
ender_33Please explain because I remember you didn't like them anymore. You explained that you didn't believe the government wouldn't bomb its own people via 7/7Aug 10 14:02
MinceRender_33: "That's crazy! The government doesn't lie to people!"Aug 10 14:02
oiaohmReally its like saying the CIA does not sell drugs.  ender_33Aug 10 14:02
ender_33Hence the 'the government would _never_ do that'Aug 10 14:02
MinceRfunniest line in AVPR, imoAug 10 14:02
ender_33a popular catchphrase for those who believe the official storyAug 10 14:03
oiaohmYes the CIA has been caught many times selling druges to fund operations.Aug 10 14:03
ender_33oiaohm - i'm not the one who trusts the governmentAug 10 14:03
oiaohmLittle thing to beware of is that the CIA does not 100 percent report to the USA goverment.Aug 10 14:04
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0ecG2kotn0&feature=relatedAug 10 14:04
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ender_33I am aware, they have bossesAug 10 14:04
ender_33the same bosses who wanted 9/11 and 7/7Aug 10 14:05
ender_33the CIA even trained Bin LadenAug 10 14:05
ender_33flouride is keeping people to stupid to realize that oneAug 10 14:06
oiaohmSame bosses that had to do squat to see those happen.Aug 10 14:06
ender_33even mainstream michael moore brought it up and nobody seemed to careAug 10 14:06
oiaohmBasically they had enough pissed of well trained people they have not bothered killing once they have become useless.Aug 10 14:06
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0ecG2kotn0&feature=relatedAug 10 14:07
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oiaohmSo items like 9/11 and 7/7 will happen without them having todo anything more than been incompetent.Aug 10 14:07
ender_33useless isn't participating in your new 'pearl harbor' eventAug 10 14:07
schestowitzYou must have had a lot oft hat chemicalAug 10 14:07
schestowitz[14:06] <ender_33> flouride is keeping people to stupid to realize that oneAug 10 14:07
oiaohmender_33: Pearl Harbor.Aug 10 14:07
oiaohmYou are aware there was a radar tower that picked up the incoming raid.Aug 10 14:07
oiaohmAgain simple case of just ingorne information.Aug 10 14:08
schestowitznext thing you know we'll hear Jones and the k00ks say that the riots in the UK are organised by our govtAug 10 14:08
schestowitz"To pass laws"Aug 10 14:08
oiaohmTo be correct by operational rules by the time the tower at Pearl Harbor saw aircraft it should have been shut down for the day.  ender_33Aug 10 14:09
oiaohmFor some very odd reason.Aug 10 14:09
schestowitzBecause laws *will* be passed, and people too dumb to think for themselves will be led by sheep by Jones & K00ks to think it therefore IMPLIES the cause is organised by the benefactorAug 10 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google !ChromeOS for Tablets in the Works - Social Barrel http://ping.fm/Z3TssAug 10 14:09
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oiaohmYes there are questions still about Perl Harbor if it should have happened the way it did.Aug 10 14:09
oiaohmAll you need to create a mess is simple miss information and have the other side well enough trained.Aug 10 14:10
amarsh04http://lockstep.com.au/blog/2011/08/10/fr-moratoriumAug 10 14:11
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oiaohmtoo lateAug 10 14:12
amarsh04have you seen the link before, schestowitz?Aug 10 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman Sachs Got Billions From Taxpayers Thru AIG For Its OWN Account,Crisis Panel Finds; Contradicting SWORN Testimony http://ur1.ca/4w0eiAug 10 14:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BOMBSHELL REPORT: Goldman Sachs Got Billions From Taxpayers Thru AIG For Its OWN Account, Crisis Panel Finds; Contradicting SWORN Testimony From Execs - Home - The Daily Bail .::. Size~: 86.05 KBAug 10 14:13
oiaohmhttp://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/8/10/new-usb-specification-promises-100w-power/  HmmAug 10 14:13
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oiaohmI wonder will we have smoking cables?Aug 10 14:13
oiaohmIf a person uses the old cable and the 100W goes threw them.Aug 10 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Confessions Of A Wall St. Nihilist: Forget About Goldman Sachs, Our Entire Economy Is Built On #Fraud http://ur1.ca/zb0xAug 10 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google App Inventor Discontinued, Will Become !OpenSource Instead http://ping.fm/ppxKsAug 10 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] math geek pic - http://i.imgur.com/rFFPw.png #fbAug 10 14:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Confessions Of A Wall St. Nihilist: Forget About Goldman Sachs, Our Entire Economy Is Built On Fraud - By Mark Ames - The eXiled .::. Size~: 154.94 KBAug 10 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why are the big banks getting off scot-free? http://ur1.ca/4w0fk @ggreenwald on an important subjectAug 10 14:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why are the big banks getting off scot-free? - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 88.17 KBAug 10 14:18
schestowitzoiaohm: I know states that build biometric dbsAug 10 14:19
schestowitzBut they try to encrypt them because of leaks they expectAug 10 14:19
schestowitzIn German passports there are strict requirements for photosAug 10 14:19
schestowitzThe problem is when companies l,ike facebook use these methods to just gain SEO powerAug 10 14:20
schestowitzAnd index people against their willAug 10 14:20
MinceRit's good to see that groklaw isn't all about defending and advertising crAppleAug 10 14:26
MinceR(i'm reading http://techrights.org/2011/08/08/drummond-on-microsoft-apple/ )Aug 10 14:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Validates Techrights’ Assertion That Microsoft and Apple Are Part of a Cartel Against Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.1 KBAug 10 14:27
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/80639074Aug 10 14:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Ted Smith (tedks)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 13:19:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Don't do the cops job for them -- there are enough people fighting the class war from the side of the rich alreadyAug 10 14:27
schestowitzPoor coverage http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Microsoft-and-SUSE-sign-partnership-agreement/?kc=rssAug 10 14:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft and SUSE extend patent and interoperability pact - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 65.25 KBAug 10 14:31
schestowitzOnly cted companiesAug 10 14:31
schestowitzNot criticsAug 10 14:31
schestowitzOr those affectedAug 10 14:31
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Android-23-update-schedule-on-ATT/?kc=rssAug 10 14:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ATandT goes all out for Gingerbread updates - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.06 KBAug 10 14:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] enjoyed watching "The Impressionists: Painting and Revolution"Aug 10 15:04
ender_33schestowitz - the only sheep are those unquestioning the official stories that everyone parrots around and nobody fact checksAug 10 15:05
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ender_33http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bonoAug 10 15:07
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ender_33same riots in greeceAug 10 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Hi folks, I came across a Dell, manufactured in 03/2007. I was asked to install Linux on it, but when I made a profile on the machine(...)Aug 10 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] it has 2 partitions with Dell stuff. Can I still tinker with the partitions and install a Linux distro on it ? Or the Dell's partitions willAug 10 15:09
ender_33the press is even bypassing your anti-capitalist filterAug 10 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Or the Dell's partitions will harm my Linux installation ? Any ideas or hints on this subject ? Thanks in advanceAug 10 15:11
ender_33here is some reading http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/38651ACB-D9A9-4494-98AA-1C86433BB673/0/gst4_update9_Feb10.pdfAug 10 15:11
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ender_33predictions of riots with no explainationAug 10 15:12
ender_33why weren't they prepared for one?Aug 10 15:12
ender_33why are they just letting people commit crime like at the G20 in Toronto?Aug 10 15:12
ender_33based on past events with proven Aug 10 15:13
ender_33agent provocateurs, I'd suggest that they still use them. How many people in these 'gangs of young thungs' listened to the agents?Aug 10 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @ericgoldman serial pro se plaintiff David Stebbins claims he's won $500 TRILLION arbitration award against Google j.mp/p0mTsn >>only?Aug 10 15:14
ender_33Proven COINTELPRO http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/coloring.htmlAug 10 15:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: COINTELPRO .::. Size~: 6.46 KBAug 10 15:15
ender_33against the black panther movementAug 10 15:15
ender_33http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2007/08/23/police-montebello.htmlAug 10 15:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quebec police admit they went undercover at Montebello protest - Canada - CBC News .::. Size~: 53.33 KBAug 10 15:15
ender_33agents provocateurs in quebec in 2007Aug 10 15:15
ender_33http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/topic/g20/article/79340--sid-ryan-defends-g8-g20-agents-provocateurs-commentAug 10 15:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sid Ryan Defends G8 & G20 Agents Provocateurs Comment - CityNews .::. Size~: 57.57 KBAug 10 15:17
ender_33even the marxist rag published on it http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/10/g20-policing-agent-provacateursAug 10 15:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: G20 police 'used undercover men to incite crowds' | UK news | The Observer .::. Size~: 91.15 KBAug 10 15:17
ender_33ad busters are reputable too http://www.adbusters.org/abtv/g20-police-agent-provocateurs.htmlAug 10 15:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: G20 - Police Agents Provocateurs? | Adbusters Culturejammer Headquarters .::. Size~: 37.12 KBAug 10 15:20
ender_33"After the protest, the police force initially denied[12] then later admitted that three of their officers disguised themselves as demonstrators; however, they denied that the officers were provoking the crowd and instigating violence."Aug 10 15:28
ender_33we lied but you can trust us this timeAug 10 15:28
ender_33trust in the government is automatic, not earned apparentlyAug 10 15:28
ender_33http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPROAug 10 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New blog post: Idea: Better architecture for computers http://jan.wildeboer.net/2011/08/idea-better-architecture-for-computers/Aug 10 15:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Riots Yesterday "We will manage with British policing methods not continental models" Today "Water cannon and plastic bullets are available"Aug 10 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @rpcutts @reality TRUNCATE is the new loot.Aug 10 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Chief Constable of Met criticises media for accuracy of reporting. #potcallingkettleblackAug 10 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dell's Honeycomb tablet launches in China http://ur1.ca/4w0xb #linux #chinaAug 10 15:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dell's Honeycomb tablet launches in China - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.48 KBAug 10 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Awesome pix - it's tea, not whiskey - https://secure.flickr.com/photos/pixel-eight/6024429000/ #fbAug 10 15:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 00:38 9/8/2011: Camden Town, London | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 225.61 KBAug 10 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 1GHz Gingerbread tablet debuts at $259 http://ur1.ca/4w0yg another new #Linux tabletAug 10 16:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] RT @jamesvasile #FFox Plugin stops like/dig/twit buttons from tracking you without disabling the buttons. http://sharemenot.cs.washingto ...Aug 10 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] sorry, people, disregard that $500 trillion link, it was only a modest $500 billion... (v @igblan)Aug 10 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @mcepl @webmink that's the one question, or why Red Hat didn't go under, when we don't collect copyright assignments?Aug 10 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] NATO news management, police news management, political news management...Can we believe a word we are told?Aug 10 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Before telly people compared how they were doing by looking at their neighbours. Now we are told you can't do without some tat or other 24/7Aug 10 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My bacon craving has returned.Aug 10 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Looking at a June 2012 freeze for !Debian Wheezy • by Steven Rosenberg http://goo.gl/dz705Aug 10 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Counting Linux Users http://ur1.ca/4w144 "DRM free Indie games for Windows Mac and Linux, and publishs some data about the distribution"Aug 10 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Great set of examples to get going with openshift.redhat.com -> https://github.com/openshift #fbAug 10 16:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steven Rosenberg : Debian looking at a June 2012 freeze for Debian Wheezy .::. Size~: 14.33 KBAug 10 16:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Counting Linux Users .::. Size~: 20.67 KBAug 10 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All these old Etonian Bullingdon club members who spent university years smashing up restaurants and pubs are now telling us all to obey lawAug 10 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Riots I would love a journalist to ask Cameron about his Bullingdon Club rioting days.Aug 10 16:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Interesting font problem for !operafans [on Ubuntuforums] http://goo.gl/ivGjyAug 10 16:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [ubuntu] Fonts gone all funny in Opera web browser - Ubuntu Forums .::. Size~: 54.01 KBAug 10 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Will there be a Santa Clara MySQL Conference 2012:? (SkySQL): http://bit.ly/oChjeBAug 10 16:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SkySQL: Santa Clara MySQL Conference 2012: Unity or division? .::. Size~: 59.21 KBAug 10 16:41
schestowitzhttp://imgur.com/8TZgdAug 10 16:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Looters gonna loot - Imgur .::. Size~: 22.47 KBAug 10 16:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Huawei serves up a curvy Gingerbread phone http://ur1.ca/4w17s #Huawei announces another #Linux phoneAug 10 16:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Huawei serves up a curvy Gingerbread phone - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.29 KBAug 10 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Webinar: History API with Syd Lawrence http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/08/webinar-history-api-with-syd-lawrence/Aug 10 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Start writing comment [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/JZJBi.jpgAug 10 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Why restaurant websites are so horrifically bad (Slate): http://slate.me/q703HmAug 10 16:48
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Restaurant websites: Why are they so awful? Which ones are the absolute worst? - By Farhad Manjoo - Slate Magazine .::. Size~: 52.83 KBAug 10 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open technologies fail better, says @doctorow (The Guardian) | http://bit.ly/nCktsjAug 10 16:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android and iOS both fail, but Android fails better | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 247.07 KBAug 10 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is #Samsung’s Galaxy Tab really an #Apple iPad lookalike? - http://bit.ly/mWipUs let 'em know your views...Aug 10 17:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Samsung’s Galaxy Tab an Apple iPad 2 lookalike? | Which? Conversation .::. Size~: 46.84 KBAug 10 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Potential account theft with XSS hole in eBay.de ⚫ heise security http://goo.gl/ECRtbAug 10 17:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Potential account theft with XSS hole in eBay.de - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.35 KBAug 10 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Why is @rms wearing a life-jacket? http://bit.ly/nFzHKxAug 10 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @enwikinews Riots in England continue for a fourth night http://enwn.net/901 #WikinewsAug 10 17:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet Privacy: Resist the Temptations of the Cloud! - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International .::. Size~: 48.54 KBAug 10 17:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Riots in England continue for a fourth night - Wikinews, the free news source .::. Size~: 38.83 KBAug 10 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Beware the cloud! Obviously a title not written by @rms Read the article nevertheless http://bit.ly/nFzHKxAug 10 17:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet Privacy: Resist the Temptations of the Cloud! - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International .::. Size~: 48.54 KBAug 10 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Defence of property: what is permissible? - http://bit.ly/mQPtIT interesting discussion (v @DavidAllenGreen) #londonriotsAug 10 17:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Defence of property: what is permissible?- Legalweek .::. Size~: 78.03 KBAug 10 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New blog post: Apple v Samsung in EU - some thoughts, but IANAL http://ur1.ca/4w1d9Aug 10 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Three days, two open hardware events, one location: Open Hardware Summit and Maker Faire:NYC | http://red.ht/pR6Tt6 @ohsummit @makerfaireAug 10 17:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Three days, two open hardware events, one location: Open Hardware Summit and Maker Faire:NYC | opensource.com .::. Size~: 47.27 KBAug 10 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Apple v Samsung in EU – some thoughts, but IANAL - http://bit.ly/nZfZt7 good point: EU law excludes form dictated by functionAug 10 17:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple v Samsung in EU – some thoughts, but IANAL | Jan Wildeboer .::. Size~: 14.35 KBAug 10 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Private companies own your #DNA - again http://ur1.ca/4w1fs #intellectualmonopolies #geneticsAug 10 17:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Private companies own your DNA - again - Forbes .::. Size~: 139.27 KBAug 10 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 1984 Case Shows Abuse Of Phrase 'Public Performance' Has A Long, Ugly History - http://bit.ly/rhDlPK long-running absurditiesAug 10 17:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 1984 Case Shows Abuse Of Phrase 'Public Performance' Has A Long, Ugly History | Techdirt .::. Size~: 59.13 KBAug 10 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @linuxchiq: and guess who found GLUTEN FREE JAFFA CAKES??? !LO /cc @fabshAug 10 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Android Is Now More Valuable To Microsoft Than Windows Phone 7 (Forbes): http://onforb.es/nQcqIPAug 10 17:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android Is More Valuable To Microsoft Than Windows Phone 7 - Forbes .::. Size~: 101.4 KBAug 10 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Private companies own your #DNA - again http://ur1.ca/4w1fs #intellectualmonopolies #genetics #thelawisanass via@schestowitzAug 10 17:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Private companies own your DNA - again - Forbes .::. Size~: 139.27 KBAug 10 17:34
Tom_BhaAug 10 17:35
Tom_Bwireless now works with the 3.0 kernel on my gentoo laptopAug 10 17:35
Tom_Bvery weird solution: compile driver as module instead of into the kernelAug 10 17:35
Tom_Bodd...Aug 10 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How to Tow a Building-Sized Iceberg - http://bit.ly/o3H3l9 interesting; what about the energy requirements? how do they compare?Aug 10 17:36
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Tom_Balso strange: the module gets loaded at boot, and i didn't even added in to /etc/conf.d/modulesAug 10 17:36
Tom_Bbut it works now, so i'm happy :-)Aug 10 17:37
Tom_Bwiii, running linux 3.0 :-pAug 10 17:37
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ender_33http://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/invention/35usc17.htmlAug 10 17:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 .::. Size~: 14.54 KBAug 10 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if Police are stretched to the point they can't protect communities from rioters, then postponing !football matches lets them avoid dilutionAug 10 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it seems football chiefs would rather games are played because of the image it sends out, than the fact that it soaks Police resources awayAug 10 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] tell a lie, it's just Bernie, owner of #QPR http://is.gd/Q0nVe5 with a financial interest in gate receipts when the game is playedAug 10 17:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC Sport - Terrible message if games cancelled - Bernie Ecclestone .::. Size~: 58.38 KBAug 10 17:53
schestowitzok, back... some funny new video.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTrN2y_ueBU&feature=digestAug 10 17:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ‪Mr. Deity and the Believing Brain‬‏       - YouTube .::. Size~: 119.23 KBAug 10 17:55
schestowitzJust gotta finish a few choresAug 10 17:55
schestowitzStill catching upAug 10 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] Having trouble keeping up with the news with all of that "news" in the way? Check out our new project TheRaspberryBlog ur1.ca/4w1jyAug 10 18:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Here's hoping for no more violence in England tonight. Chuck Norris has been dispatched.Aug 10 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me in just under an hour for my live Ubuntu video Q+A session at http://is.gd/vAp17e #ubuntuAug 10 18:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: At Home With Jono Bacon on USTREAM: Ramblings on community, Linux and technology from Jono Bacon.. .::. Size~: 61.42 KBAug 10 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @Reuters: Ai Weiwei endured immense pressure in detention: source http://t.co/0Bjiy0OAug 10 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] British despot David Cameron continues to cling to power despite spreading protests cc @eebrah @jargon #DemocraticNewsNetworkAug 10 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @meegoexperts A look at the Samsung N100 – Meego http://mge.bz/j3 #Samsung #N100 #MeeGo #NetbookAug 10 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] God! Am gonna have a field day with this! #euspring #camronAug 10 18:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samsung N100  Meego Eyes On .::. Size~: 50.15 KBAug 10 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Meanwhile, the rebel national Transitional and Revolutionary Council in Tottenham sent out an appeal for money and armsAug 10 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also, BREAKING NEWS: God just declared that any enemy of the Democratic News Network is an enemy of God.Aug 10 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/454556/rssAug 10 18:23
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/78035101#notice-80648720 http://identi.ca/notice/80648720Aug 10 18:24
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TechrightsBot-tr@Stefan (faither)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 17:05:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Does that mean I could patent "isolated letters" aswell?Aug 10 18:24
schestowitzOnly in the USPTOAug 10 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft puts hand in pocket for BPOS customers http://tinyurl.com/4xfkf4j #microsoft #money #bpos #failAug 10 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @mlinksva #mmeeks rocks ♺ @lwnnet Desktop Summit: Copyright assignments http://ur1.ca/4vzolAug 10 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Elizabeth Regina: I see no need to vacate Palace, cease life of opulence and snobbery or call elections for monarchy #dnn #eufallAug 10 18:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @faither Only in the USPTO+Aug 10 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: ' #Cisco appears to be purposely.."averting its eyes"... its technologies will certainly be abused' http://t.co/ITRBoILAug 10 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @davidgerard: Talk of evicting rioters and looters is mostly right-wing councils trying to weaken the rights of all tenants [...]Aug 10 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Europe Takes Its Own Path on Internet Privacy http://tinyurl.com/3wkotcl #europe #privacy #internetAug 10 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Ai Weiwei endured "immense pressure" in detention: source http://t.co/0Bjiy0OAug 10 18:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @nj3ma It is interesting that a standard reply to us republicans by monarchists is that politicians can't be trusted better stick with Liz.Aug 10 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @MotherJones: Rumsfeld Torture Suit Is a Go http://mojo.ly/n9c9DrAug 10 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @JudeToche: I get the feeling that if Fox News had existed in 1968, we'd still have troops in Vietnam.Aug 10 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #whoknew? baby boomers don't approve of riots or Anonymous. or protest of any kind apparently.Aug 10 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Identification of a gene associated with avian migratory behaviour http://bit.ly/oek7An !scienceAug 10 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @techdirt: Motion To Quash Against Copyright Troll Explains How IP Address Does Not ID User http://dlvr.it/ffnz7Aug 10 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @schestowitz ♻ @einfeldt: RT @MotherJones: Rumsfeld Torture Suit Is a Go http://mojo.ly/n9c9DrAug 10 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @schestowitz ♻ @einfeldt: RT @MotherJones: Rumsfeld Torture Suit Is a Go http://mojo.ly/n9c9DrAug 10 18:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Total Employment in the US Falls Again http://ur1.ca/4w1ox getting $3 trillion more in debt (~1tr per year) not enoughAug 10 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Constrained mate choice in social monogamy and the stress of having an unattractive partner http://bit.ly/nOeesL !science !biologyAug 10 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] via @mixandmashnz, check out the cool New Zealand data mashup/creative remix competition http://www.mixandmash.org.nz/ #CC #opendataAug 10 18:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] shame on #computacenter - http://bit.ly/qHcg0H if they have something to hide, they should clearly be banned from future public contractsAug 10 18:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #TortureSuit sounds like something you'd see in #IronMan 3 as the US govt get closer to art imitating lifeAug 10 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] More on China's interrogation of Mr. Du, plaintiff against @CiscoSystems. https://eff.org/r.96N Sign our petition: https://eff.org/r.49AAug 10 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The folly of passwords (XKCD): http://bit.ly/paR9uaAug 10 18:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] W3C Publishes an HTML5 Spec for Web Developers (Webmonkey): http://bit.ly/rqyHMPAug 10 18:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UK riot cops beat boys on bicycles but BBC excuses. Original: http://t.co/QMim3lX BBC: http://t.co/YxLGGuIAug 10 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Loving Linux and hating winblow$... http://ur1.ca/4w1qeAug 10 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @reality @andyc And you should be asking 'what would Jesus loot?'Aug 10 18:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: UK riot cops beat boys on bicycles but BBC excuses. Original: http://t.co/QMim3lX BBC: http://t.co/YxLGGuIAug 10 18:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @x11r5 @eebrah Jesus. I just would like to get reality? Oh noAug 10 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] was there near the station last night and some guys were just cruising on their bike harmlessly.The TAU hopefully did not assault w/o reasonAug 10 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Launch of The Public Domain Review website - http://goo.gl/Ithdw #publicdomainAug 10 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] SQL survives murder attempt by mutant stepchild: NoSQL needs to be easier to use (Asay): http://bit.ly/o1hoaIAug 10 18:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @davidgerard: For those rediscovering [..] neighbours would make pretty good Nazis in a pinch http://t.co/HPu1YEo http://t.co/HsJWcRFAug 10 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CoC's 'Victims Of Internet Piracy' Look More Like 'Victims Of Propagandist Exploitation' - http://bit.ly/r7XJJM fab, total, eviscerationAug 10 18:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join me in a few mins for my live Ubuntu, Community and Open Source Q+A at http://is.gd/vAp17e - be there and bring questions! #ubuntuAug 10 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Riots. Rioter going to court hiding behind a copy of Metro. Why didn't he just wear a hoodie?Aug 10 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] A look at the Samsung N100 – Meego http://mge.bz/j3 #Samsung #N100 #MeeGo #NetbookAug 10 18:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Pulls Plug On Programming For the Masses - http://bit.ly/oRjVVo #google really looks rudderless - no, make that cluelessAug 10 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Facebook now automatically imports all the numbers in your smart phone, whether they are FB friends or not.Aug 10 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patent-infringement lawsuit against Fark settled for zero dollars. Also, patent trolls suck hairy donkey balls - http://bit.ly/q5nhQL kudosAug 10 19:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @joabj: Facebook now automatically imports all the numbers in your smart phone, whether they are #FB friends or not.Aug 10 19:04
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schestowitzwb, gde33Aug 10 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Who remembers the West Midlands Serious Crime Squad?Aug 10 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Logoobsession That would be funny. Rioter turns up at court it Armani suit.Aug 10 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110810 #sip_and_clickAug 10 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Six Python Web frameworks compared: CubicWeb, Django, Pyramid, Web.py, Web2py, and Zope 2 (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/ngpcMVAug 10 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Seven Concerns on the Linux Desktop http://tinyurl.com/45yj8kk #gnu #linux #desktop #gui EXCELENT analysis !Aug 10 19:21
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ender_33Schestowitz, what are your thoughts on Anonymous?Aug 10 19:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] http://lipsofsuna.org/ !FLOSS #gaming via @rogerdvAug 10 19:28
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schestowitzender_33: not effectiveAug 10 19:29
schestowitzTurns people against the oppositionAug 10 19:29
schestowitzI like the Yes MenAug 10 19:29
schestowitzThey rockAug 10 19:29
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80650897Aug 10 19:30
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 17:56:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz There have been lots of experiments like that. Some of those inflicting pain have volunteered to stay on past normal time.Aug 10 19:30
schestowitzre " @davidgerard: For those rediscovering [..] neighbours would make pretty good Nazis in a pinch http://t.co/HPu1YEo http://t.co/HsJWcRF "Aug 10 19:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] A Bug's Life: Java 7 Updates (Oracle): http://bit.ly/rho7C8Aug 10 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] My take on the HTML 5 Kindle - Amazon Escapes the App Trap Too: http://wmk.me/qm3Nt0 [on CWUK]Aug 10 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good Afternoon !IdentiverseAug 10 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Caught Up and Running a Server at Home http://ur1.ca/4w1x0 Okay, back to posting newsAug 10 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I *had* to pass along this bit of XKCD brilliance: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/password_strength.pngAug 10 19:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/felixpy/status/101348851478315008Aug 10 19:31
TechrightsBot-tr@felixpy: @schestowitz good, i hope they beat the shit out of the twats. if you sympathise with these people then i seriously worry for you.Aug 10 19:31
DaemonFCMe: I have a Sceptre X402BV-FHD TV. After updating the firmware, the image on the display is corrupt. How do I fix this?Aug 10 19:31
schestowitzHow do we know if these kids did something? I saw benign groups too riding bikes.Aug 10 19:32
DaemonFCTechnical Support:Aug 10 19:32
DaemonFCyou can'tAug 10 19:32
DaemonFCTechnical Support:Aug 10 19:32
DaemonFCyou've loaded the wrong firmwareAug 10 19:32
DaemonFCMe: how is that possible? it's the right modelAug 10 19:32
schestowitz10pmAug 10 19:32
DaemonFCTechnical Support:Aug 10 19:32
DaemonFCif it is the right firmware the display would be finAug 10 19:32
DaemonFCTechnical Support:Aug 10 19:32
DaemonFCfineAug 10 19:32
DaemonFCTechnical Support:Aug 10 19:32
DaemonFCnot every X402 models use the same firmware.Aug 10 19:32
schestowitzatt 10pm onlu rioters were lft thereAug 10 19:32
schestowitzEveryone else, us included, went homeAug 10 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] The story of apps.meego.com http://lwn.net/Articles/454454/rssAug 10 19:33
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schestowitzDaemonFC: my firmware has typosAug 10 19:33
schestowitzmade in China, I thinkAug 10 19:33
DaemonFCMe: is there a link to the correct firmware? the update program still worksAug 10 19:33
ender_33schestowitz - so it has nothing to do with Guy Faux, a catholic icon?Aug 10 19:33
DaemonFCTechnical Support:Aug 10 19:33
DaemonFCgive me the p/n number and s/n number found on the back of the sticker and I can find out for youAug 10 19:33
DaemonFCso I didAug 10 19:33
DaemonFCTechnical Support:Aug 10 19:33
DaemonFCI will need to research on which firmware you needAug 10 19:33
schestowitzender_33: huh?Aug 10 19:33
DaemonFCTechnical Support:Aug 10 19:33
DaemonFCplease provide me your email address, once I obtain the right firmware I will email you the link to download itAug 10 19:33
DaemonFCniceAug 10 19:33
ender_33the reason you're against them and are labeling them an enemy of the oppositionAug 10 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk very cool... thanks for sharing :)Aug 10 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Just installed the beautiful Faenza Gnome Icon set http://ur1.ca/4w1xi #gnu #linux http://ur1.ca/4w1xpAug 10 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh "a load of people just pushing out posts and shouting at each other to me" Generally true, but some communities are there #twatterAug 10 19:34
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DaemonFCTechnical Support:Aug 10 19:35
DaemonFCIs there anything else I can help you with today?Aug 10 19:35
DaemonFCMe: not really, I wasn't looking forward to boxing this thing up and taking it back to the store over what was labelled to be the correct firmware update, but if you think you can find the correct file within the next day or so I will waitAug 10 19:35
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DaemonFCwhat a messAug 10 19:35
schestowitzDaemonFC: niceAug 10 19:35
ender_33http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_Secrecy_ActAug 10 19:35
ender_33found itAug 10 19:35
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DaemonFCTechnical Support has left the conversation.Aug 10 19:36
DaemonFCjesusAug 10 19:36
ender_33this is what gives the US DOD power to declare your invention national security and gag youAug 10 19:36
DaemonFCnice companyAug 10 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psquid Bloody hell, just saw on the news that 3 people were murdered just down the road from here, amidst last night's chaos.Aug 10 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] El secreto de Coca-Cola, Google e Inditex - http://bit.ly/r6NlMb not patents, but distribution, reputation, advertising that matterAug 10 19:36
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DaemonFCschestowitz, You think I should wait or box it up and play the "it doesn't work" routine?Aug 10 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] This Week in Internet #Censorship: Good News in Turkey, Bad News in Iran, and Threatened Voices https://www.eff.org/n/15223Aug 10 19:38
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I am thinking this is their faultAug 10 19:39
DaemonFChttp://www.sceptre.com/support/firmware.htmAug 10 19:39
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ender_33quantum computing would be national securityAug 10 19:40
DaemonFCtheir 800 number is always going to voicemailAug 10 19:41
DaemonFCyikesAug 10 19:41
DaemonFCwhat have I done?Aug 10 19:41
ender_33DaemonFC - you became a customerAug 10 19:41
DaemonFCyeah, time to box it up and play the stupid customerAug 10 19:42
DaemonFCno minimum wage employee working the returns desk at Walmart gives a shitAug 10 19:42
DaemonFC:)Aug 10 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] hacking on a bit of Ruby CGI trying to get sessions workingAug 10 19:43
ender_33When I did returns I didn't give a shitAug 10 19:43
ender_33@ CCAug 10 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @reality @psquid three people are still dead :(Aug 10 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera @psquid That was terrible, the father of one of the dead men appeared in front of the media that was a very brave thing to do.Aug 10 19:44
DaemonFCsomehow I doubt "technical support" is ever going to bother to fix thisAug 10 19:45
DaemonFCand the managers at the Walmart store don't care because the loss is charged back to their websiteAug 10 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Wow, I just discovered the Internet Archive channel on !banshee #frickin_awesomeAug 10 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #OpenShift brings #Java EE6 and #Membase to the #Cloud for Free! http://red.ht/og91Du #paas #redhatpaasAug 10 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @openattitude #Thunderbird confirmed as default mail app for !Ubuntu 11.10 | OMG Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/4w1x5Aug 10 19:46
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ender_33the store I used to work at played a numbers gameAug 10 19:46
ender_33the chains would compete over daily salesAug 10 19:46
DaemonFCwell, Walmart.com is a separate business unitAug 10 19:47
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DaemonFCso when you use site to store, the store gets some money for thatAug 10 19:47
DaemonFCand when you return it, the website eats the lossAug 10 19:47
ender_33you would have the managers encourage employees to buy stuff at their store and return it at one that competes with their numbersAug 10 19:47
DaemonFCand the store gets another credit for having to return itAug 10 19:47
DaemonFCso they actually make more money if you return something you bought from the websiteAug 10 19:47
DaemonFC:PAug 10 19:48
schestowitzthey make it hard to returnAug 10 19:48
schestowitz'Returns' are good for themAug 10 19:48
schestowitzThey use these to give the ILLUSION that the buy is safeAug 10 19:48
schestowitzEven when it's notAug 10 19:49
schestowitzAnd then hassle the customer demanding a returnAug 10 19:49
DaemonFCyeah, at one point the store manager where I worked was telling employees not to use their discount czrdsAug 10 19:49
DaemonFCbecause it ate up their store profitsAug 10 19:49
DaemonFC:PAug 10 19:49
DaemonFCI didn't really careAug 10 19:49
DaemonFCif I bought a bottle of soda for my break, I swiped itAug 10 19:49
schestowitzyesterday I went out to buy a cableAug 10 19:50
DaemonFCI don't vcare if it did only take 10 cents offAug 10 19:50
schestowitzThe store owner goes to the backAug 10 19:50
schestowitzComes back with 7 pound wireAug 10 19:50
DaemonFCit's one of the few benefits of working thereAug 10 19:50
schestowitzI say, it's overpricesAug 10 19:50
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schestowitz*cedAug 10 19:50
schestowitzNot in these wordsAug 10 19:50
DaemonFCand they try to tell you not to use itAug 10 19:50
schestowitzI look around for a bit, asking if there's a cheaper one somewhereAug 10 19:50
schestowitzThen I say I might come back later, "when are you shutting down"Aug 10 19:50
schestowitzSuddenly the man sees I'm about to leaveAug 10 19:51
schestowitzHe says, wait, we have cheaper onesAug 10 19:51
schestowitzNot in these wordsAug 10 19:51
ender_33was he trying to sell you monster cables?Aug 10 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Just lost a game of Tetrinet against @bobcallme.Aug 10 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "Creative Commons: a user guide" by former visiting CC scholar @simonealiprandi under CC BY-SA: http://www.aliprandi.org/cc-user-guide/Aug 10 19:51
schestowitzSo he was trying to screw me with the most expensive oneAug 10 19:51
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ender_33yeah that was probably commissionAug 10 19:51
schestowitzWasn't sure whether out of principle I should have just walked out anywayAug 10 19:51
schestowitzBut I got back and got a cheaper oneAug 10 19:51
DaemonFCcaution, this bag is not a toyAug 10 19:51
schestowitzHe waited and hid the cheap ones, until he realised he was losing a saleAug 10 19:52
DaemonFCplease don't give it to your children to play SuffocationAug 10 19:52
DaemonFCSuffocation is not a gameAug 10 19:52
ender_33i'd shrug it off, these employees work for commission most of the timeAug 10 19:52
schestowitzIs it legal to hide things like these?Aug 10 19:52
schestowitzLike it's an under-the-shelve hardcore cableAug 10 19:52
schestowitzshelfAug 10 19:52
schestowitz[19:51] <ender_33> was he trying to sell you monster cables?Aug 10 19:52
schestowitzHEHEAug 10 19:52
schestowitzHi-FI is a word those losers likeAug 10 19:52
DaemonFCschestowitz, Monster cables come in pretty boxesAug 10 19:52
ender_33schestowitz - I don't suppose they are any obligation to offer you cheaper cables if you're the one who isn't doing the lookingAug 10 19:52
schestowitzTo sell a wire for 5 times the priceAug 10 19:52
DaemonFCand cost 2-3 times moreAug 10 19:52
DaemonFCthose are the differencesAug 10 19:53
schestowitzLike I'm running some music studio or something :-)Aug 10 19:53
schestowitzender_33: they don't present these at the shopAug 10 19:53
schestowitzSo I'm at the mercy of the owner not to hide the cheaper optionsAug 10 19:53
DaemonFCthis TV is going to be a bitch to pack upAug 10 19:53
schestowitzI didn't imply illegalityAug 10 19:53
ender_33was the cable hidden in the back out of bounds?Aug 10 19:53
schestowitzJust him being a knobAug 10 19:53
schestowitzHe charged me 20 quid to fix my shaverAug 10 19:54
schestowitz'fix'Aug 10 19:54
schestowitzreplace battry ratherAug 10 19:54
ender_33yeahAug 10 19:54
schestowitzput new one in, solderAug 10 19:54
ender_33dude, stuff costs moneyAug 10 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] In case you missed it, check out the new video show we just launched: http://sixgun.org/leaveyourhatAug 10 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @trashbird1240 I never found them. :)Aug 10 19:54
ender_33I used to charge people $30 to 'diagnose' their computerAug 10 19:54
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schestowitz:-)Aug 10 19:54
ender_33often I just ran programs that scanned hardwareAug 10 19:55
schestowitzGood for youAug 10 19:55
schestowitzWindows stuff?Aug 10 19:55
ender_33sometimes I already knew what was wrongAug 10 19:55
schestowitzOr hardware issue?Aug 10 19:55
ender_33bothAug 10 19:55
schestowitzUI'm sure Computer Canada pocketed all the profitsAug 10 19:55
schestowitzAnd gave you minimum wageAug 10 19:55
schestowitzCapitalism at its extremitiesAug 10 19:55
ender_33I got a little bit above minimum wageAug 10 19:55
schestowitzahAug 10 19:55
schestowitzThey gave you prideAug 10 19:55
schestowitzA "little" overAug 10 19:55
schestowitz"You should thank us for not paying you like they pay garbage man"Aug 10 19:55
ender_33oh man they acted like they were giving us gold all the timeAug 10 19:56
ender_33yeah thats what it was likeAug 10 19:56
schestowitz[cause, you know, they would tell you it's the same skillset]Aug 10 19:56
ender_33you should thank usAug 10 19:56
schestowitzthey save you!!!Aug 10 19:56
schestowitzWageAug 10 19:56
ender_33you should thank us for that one week vacation we gave you, the law requires 2 but oh wellAug 10 19:56
schestowitz"I pay wage, now you do WHATEVER I TELL YOU!"Aug 10 19:56
ender_33the owners are communistsAug 10 19:56
schestowitz:-)Aug 10 19:56
schestowitzfor the othersAug 10 19:56
ender_33which is funnyAug 10 19:56
schestowitzCapitalists to themselvesAug 10 19:57
ender_33cause you think that isn't about profit?Aug 10 19:57
ender_33lolAug 10 19:57
ender_33yeah capitalism for the owners, communism for the employeesAug 10 19:57
schestowitz:-)Aug 10 19:57
schestowitzChinadaAug 10 19:57
ender_33I reported them to the government for violating my rights and I wonAug 10 19:57
ender_33I still shop there and occasionally go in to taunt my old bossAug 10 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Photos from recent free software events with Richard Stallman http://ur1.ca/4w20a !gnu !fsf @rmsAug 10 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How America criminalised poverty http://gu.com/p/3x5t7Aug 10 19:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A selection of photographs from some of RMS's past events — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 28.72 KBAug 10 19:58
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ender_33'im making double what you are and im doing one quarter of the work I used to do'Aug 10 19:58
DaemonFCnobody is answering any extensionAug 10 19:59
DaemonFCeven sales :)Aug 10 19:59
DaemonFCnice companyAug 10 19:59
schestowitzender_33: you cause unrest thereAug 10 19:59
DaemonFCwhat do they have, 2 people working there?Aug 10 19:59
schestowitzmutiny!Aug 10 19:59
ender_33one guy got fired for causing unrest at my locationAug 10 20:00
ender_33he worked at the london ontario store and told us they got direct deposits for payrollAug 10 20:00
ender_33the company didnt want anyone else getting direct depositAug 10 20:00
ender_33they were so cheap, I suspect it was to hold onto that few extra cents of interestAug 10 20:01
ender_33while the cheque clearsAug 10 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @fsf Photos from recent free software events with Richard Stallman http://ur1.ca/4w20a !gnu !fsf @rmsAug 10 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Josh Topolsky to write a weekly tech column at The Washington Post (BI): http://read.bi/oVpjyv Read more: http://ur1.ca/4w23pAug 10 20:04
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ender_33"At the DEFCON 19 hacking conference it seems that a full man-in-the-middle (MITM) attack was successfully launched against all 4G and CDMA transmissions in and around the venue, the Rio Hotel in Las Vegas. This MITM attack enabled hackers to gain permanent kernel-level root access in some Android and PC devices using a rootkit, and non-persistent user space access in others. In both cases, whoever launched this attack on CDMAug 10 20:07
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DaemonFC"So the Parentes turned to what remains of welfare – TANF, or Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. TANF does not offer straightforward cash support like Aid to Families with Dependent Children, which it replaced in 1996. It's an income supplementation program for working parents, and it was based on the sunny assumption that there would always be plenty of jobs for those enterprising enough to get them.Aug 10 20:08
DaemonFCAfter Kristen applied, nothing happened for six weeks – no money, no phone calls returned. At school, the Parentes' seven-year-old's class was asked to write out what wish they would present to a genie, should a genie appear. Brianna's wish was for her mother to find a job because there was nothing to eat in the house, an aspiration that her teacher deemed too disturbing to be posted on the wall with the other children's requests."Aug 10 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I like the term power user. The first ever podcast I listened to was "Power User TV". That was back in my Windows days. :)Aug 10 20:08
DaemonFCYou're bumming out the kids who think they have a chanceAug 10 20:08
DaemonFCREJECTED!Aug 10 20:08
DaemonFC:PAug 10 20:08
ender_33censoring the poor nowAug 10 20:08
DaemonFC"When the Parentes finally got into "the system" and began receiving food stamps and some cash assistance, they discovered why some recipients have taken to calling TANF "Torture and Abuse of Needy Families." From the start, the TANF experience was "humiliating", Kristen says. The caseworkers "treat you like a bum. They act like every dollar you get is coming out of their own paychecks"."Aug 10 20:09
DaemonFCyikesAug 10 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RIM hacked for aiding police in London riot investigation (Yahoo News) http://yhoo.it/qAmY9H #rim #security #londonriotsAug 10 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @fsf Photos from recent free software events with Richard Stallman http://ur1.ca/4w20a #fsf #gnuAug 10 20:09
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DaemonFC"The Parentes discovered that they were each expected to apply for 40 jobs a week, although their car was on its last legs and no money was offered for gas, tolls, or babysitting."Aug 10 20:10
DaemonFChehAug 10 20:10
DaemonFCthere's 40 jobs left in your city and 50,000 people competing for themAug 10 20:10
DaemonFCGO!Aug 10 20:10
schestowitzmaybe they need to at least pretend to tryAug 10 20:10
ender_33"They act like every dollar you get is coming out of their own paychecks"Aug 10 20:11
schestowitzg http://ur1.ca/4w1ox Aug 10 20:11
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schestowitz http://ur1.ca/4w1ox Aug 10 20:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Design the winning poster for the Creative Commons Global Summit! by Aug 22 http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/28608Aug 10 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's dull, it's raining, it's supposed to be summer....that's Scotland for yaAug 10 20:11
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DaemonFCschestowitz, when I was on unemployment during a widespread "hiring freeze" back in 2004, I decided to stretch it outAug 10 20:11
DaemonFCby going and applying at places I knew wouldn't hire meAug 10 20:11
ender_33grandparents kicked me out while I was unemployed trying to do my college - they didn't like that their taxes paid for it and wanted me outAug 10 20:11
DaemonFCor for jobs I wasn't qualified forAug 10 20:12
DaemonFCyou have to turn in X number of applications, it doesn't matter what you're applying forAug 10 20:12
DaemonFCback when we were your age, nobody handed us anything, we got paid $20 an hour to turn lugnuts at GM, and the union kept us from being fired no matter how late and drunk we showed up!Aug 10 20:13
DaemonFCyou kids are so spoiledAug 10 20:13
ender_33DaemonFC - our unemployement income doesn't require this, nor does welfareAug 10 20:13
DaemonFCif you had to do an honest day's sleeping out a hangover on a GM assembly line, you'd know betterAug 10 20:13
DaemonFCB-)Aug 10 20:14
ender_33DaemonFC - however, 'second career' the gov't program does - you need to give them a complete record of every place you applied to along with managers names and the positionAug 10 20:14
ender_33that was for the college money that isn't a loanAug 10 20:14
DaemonFCsecond career.....Aug 10 20:14
ender_33yupAug 10 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @creativecommons Design the winning poster for the Creative Commons Global Summit! by Aug 22 http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/ ...Aug 10 20:14
DaemonFCI like that, it sounds like state government job training programs hereAug 10 20:14
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DaemonFCwasting tax money on classes that teach you skills that aren't in demandAug 10 20:15
ender_33thats what this wasAug 10 20:15
ender_33I learned server 2008 and vista, my job uses 2003 and xpAug 10 20:15
DaemonFCoh wellAug 10 20:15
DaemonFCsame thingAug 10 20:15
ender_33got my bestbuy degree (A+ Certification)Aug 10 20:15
schestowitz!google a+ enjoy yourselfAug 10 20:16
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - a+ - enjoy yourself‏ - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DOQOgDwUyB9IAug 10 20:16
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TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Dailymotion - A+ - Enjoy Yourself - une vidéo Musique | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxxc1_a-enjoy-yourself_musicAug 10 20:16
DaemonFCdisaster averted?Aug 10 20:19
Tom_Bjust 2003 and xp?Aug 10 20:19
DaemonFCDear Customer,Aug 10 20:19
DaemonFCThanks for contacting us, we apologize for your inconvenience.Aug 10 20:19
DaemonFCPlease use the firmware attached to reload into your TV.Aug 10 20:19
DaemonFCBest Regards,Aug 10 20:19
DaemonFCSceptre Technical Support GroupAug 10 20:19
ender_33yeahAug 10 20:19
Tom_Bwow, that must be really simple :-)Aug 10 20:19
ender_33hell yesAug 10 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] This should make anybody doing anything with Linux uncomfortable. http://onforb.es/p0kLbf MSFT $$ from Android. (via @bob_sutor @algillen )Aug 10 20:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android Is More Valuable To Microsoft Than Windows Phone 7 - Forbes .::. Size~: 106.28 KBAug 10 20:19
ender_33its all been used for years and has been made stableAug 10 20:20
DaemonFCthat is INCREDIBLY misleadingAug 10 20:20
Tom_Bat my job, we've got everything from 2000 up to 2008Aug 10 20:20
DaemonFCtheres over a dozen of these that use the same model numberAug 10 20:20
DaemonFCand the firmware update just says it's for that modelAug 10 20:20
Tom_Band of course several servers running Debian, Ubuntu, one Gentoo and one FreeBSDAug 10 20:20
ender_33we got some redhat stuff runningAug 10 20:21
ender_33not much thoughAug 10 20:21
DaemonFCender_33, I set up a Scientific Linux 4.9 for my dadAug 10 20:21
ender_33just a few web servers with linux only appsAug 10 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUpEU @IntelAppUp Can the piggies stand the heat? Find out with Angry Birds Rio! Now in the Intel AppUp... http://t.co/ZdOAXrCAug 10 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp The deadline to submit for an #AppUpElements "Group Talk" is Friday- Aug 12th! Get to applying!... http://t.co/gD4821DAug 10 20:21
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DaemonFChe needed RHEL 4 compatibility for work and they told him to go out and buy it himselfAug 10 20:21
DaemonFC:PAug 10 20:21
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ender_33ROFLAug 10 20:21
DaemonFCScientific is really niceAug 10 20:21
DaemonFC:)Aug 10 20:22
ender_33yesAug 10 20:22
Tom_Bwhat's it based on?Aug 10 20:22
DaemonFCRHELAug 10 20:22
ender_33RHELAug 10 20:22
Tom_BohAug 10 20:22
Tom_Bthat figures :-)Aug 10 20:22
DaemonFCit's a free RHEL clone that uses yum instead of Red Hat NetworkAug 10 20:22
DaemonFCthat's about the only big differenceAug 10 20:22
Tom_Bnever been a fan of red hatAug 10 20:22
DaemonFCthe wallpaper and red hat references are removedAug 10 20:23
Tom_Bnor any other of the big corporate distrosAug 10 20:23
DaemonFCit has several of its own packages which are niceAug 10 20:23
ender_33im a Fedora/Redhat nutAug 10 20:23
DaemonFClike desktop settings which preconfigures it into a desktopAug 10 20:23
DaemonFCit feels like using an old Fedora only much more stableAug 10 20:23
Tom_Bfedora's quite niceAug 10 20:23
Tom_Bwe've got some PCs in the compat lab running fedoraAug 10 20:24
ender_33RHEL is a mix of a lot of different Fedora versionsAug 10 20:24
Tom_Bbit of a dull default install...Aug 10 20:24
ender_33I've heard it has stuff going back to Fedora 6Aug 10 20:24
Tom_Bbut quite nice and stable it seemsAug 10 20:24
ender_33as well as stuff going up to 13Aug 10 20:24
DaemonFCRHEL 6 is more or less somewhere between Fedora's 12 and 13Aug 10 20:25
DaemonFCbut they backport new things to it as neededAug 10 20:25
DaemonFCnew kernel driversAug 10 20:25
DaemonFCbug patchesAug 10 20:25
DaemonFCetc.Aug 10 20:25
ender_33some stuff is older stuff thoughAug 10 20:25
DaemonFCsometimes they land a new Firefox or somethingAug 10 20:25
Tom_Blinux 3.0 entered Debian testingAug 10 20:25
ender_33one of the workarounds for firefox 5 is using a library from fedora 9Aug 10 20:25
Tom_ByayAug 10 20:25
DaemonFCit's not meant to be bleeding edgeAug 10 20:26
DaemonFCit's meant to be provenAug 10 20:26
Tom_BheheAug 10 20:26
Tom_Blike debian stable :-)Aug 10 20:26
DaemonFCRHEL and Debian Stable are both pretty solidAug 10 20:26
ender_33I like Redhat betterAug 10 20:27
DaemonFCthere's advantages to one and the other thoughAug 10 20:27
DaemonFCRHEL is officially supported by FGLRXAug 10 20:27
DaemonFCAMD maintains the packages themselvesAug 10 20:27
DaemonFCit won't breakAug 10 20:27
ender_33thats easyAug 10 20:27
ender_33RHEL is designed for thatAug 10 20:27
DaemonFCrightAug 10 20:27
Tom_Bnever had any issues with fglrx on my debian boxAug 10 20:27
DaemonFCit is essentially frozenAug 10 20:27
Tom_Balways worked wellAug 10 20:28
DaemonFCso they don't have to do much to keep it workingAug 10 20:28
Tom_Bbut these day's i'm just using radeonAug 10 20:28
Tom_Bwhich has become quite good at 3D accellAug 10 20:28
DaemonFCyeahAug 10 20:28
Tom_Bit used to such thoughAug 10 20:29
Tom_Bback then i did use fglrxAug 10 20:29
DaemonFCthe hardware specific stuff is more stable than fglrxAug 10 20:29
DaemonFCand fasterAug 10 20:29
Tom_ByeahAug 10 20:29
DaemonFCthe problem is when you get to the OpenGL stack, Mesa/GalliumAug 10 20:29
DaemonFCwhich is better and worseAug 10 20:29
Tom_Bremarkable reallyAug 10 20:29
Tom_Boh?Aug 10 20:30
DaemonFCworse in that it doesn't support OpenGL 4.1, and it's slower in many casesAug 10 20:30
DaemonFCbut better in that there are fewer bugsAug 10 20:30
DrPizzajust use closed source driversAug 10 20:30
Tom_Bopengl stuff seems to work fine hereAug 10 20:30
DrPizzathey work much betterAug 10 20:30
DaemonFCand it doesn't advertise things it can't really doAug 10 20:30
DaemonFCI'd say if you don't game a lot, just use the open source stackAug 10 20:30
Tom_Bheh, check ;-)Aug 10 20:31
DaemonFCand be rid of all the crashing and slow 2d and hairy console switching mess that comes with fglrxAug 10 20:31
DrPizzaif you game use windowsAug 10 20:31
ender_33not frying my laptop, I used the proprietary nvidia driversAug 10 20:31
DaemonFCender_33, nouveau doesn't have power managementAug 10 20:31
DrPizzame tooAug 10 20:31
DaemonFCradeon doesAug 10 20:31
DrPizzathe ones for mac os xAug 10 20:31
Tom_Byeah, the console switching stuff with fglrx *is* a disasterAug 10 20:31
DrPizzajust start up terminal.appAug 10 20:32
DrPizzaworks fineAug 10 20:32
Tom_Bnouveau is quite sucky imoAug 10 20:32
Tom_Band i don't really like the nvidia driver eitherAug 10 20:32
Tom_Bif i can, i stay away from nvidiaAug 10 20:32
DaemonFCnouveau is decent on older nvidia cardsAug 10 20:33
Tom_Bi kind of like the intel stuff that's in my laptopAug 10 20:33
DaemonFCworks fine with a 9500 GT I gave to a friendAug 10 20:33
Tom_Bno kidding :-)Aug 10 20:33
ender_33my netbook has intelAug 10 20:33
ender_33i dont know what model, i've never had to fight with itAug 10 20:33
Tom_Byes, support from intel is quite goodAug 10 20:34
Tom_Bi've got more than decent opengl performanceAug 10 20:34
Tom_B(armagetronad ;-)Aug 10 20:34
Tom_Bwhich is about the only game i ever play ;-)Aug 10 20:35
DaemonFCthey sent my TV firmware in an RARAug 10 20:36
DaemonFC:)Aug 10 20:36
MinceRrussians?Aug 10 20:38
schestowitz:-)Aug 10 20:38
DaemonFChell if I knowAug 10 20:39
schestowitzwareZAug 10 20:39
DaemonFCit worked thoughAug 10 20:39
DaemonFCit came with a bunch of freaky Russian porn thoughAug 10 20:39
DaemonFCand some MP3sAug 10 20:39
Tom_BhaAug 10 20:39
Tom_Brar, the pirate's packerAug 10 20:40
Tom_Bnot harrr, but rarrr mateyAug 10 20:40
DaemonFCX402BV-FHD09A.rarAug 10 20:40
Tom_Bpack it upAug 10 20:40
DaemonFCHAR!!!Aug 10 20:40
schestowitzarr.rarAug 10 20:40
schestowitzrahrah.rarAug 10 20:41
schestowitzrar is rar backwardsAug 10 20:41
Tom_Bno kiddingAug 10 20:41
schestowitzIn Soviety Russia, RAR rars YOUAug 10 20:41
MinceRDaemonFC: Human-Assisted Robot?Aug 10 20:41
MinceRhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/One_Must_Fall:_2097Aug 10 20:41
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Tom_Ba man a plan a canal : panamaAug 10 20:41
Tom_Bnow /that's/ a palindrome!Aug 10 20:42
DaemonFCGalactica Actual: What's that? Cylon love letter.rar?Aug 10 20:42
schestowitz"Evans Data @EvansDataCorp is now following you (@schestowitz). "Aug 10 20:42
schestowitzOog, I like EvansAug 10 20:42
schestowitzThey do good researchAug 10 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is jargon with 194 dents!Aug 10 20:43
schestowitzShame they didn't join twitter earlierAug 10 20:43
Tom_Bfind . -name \*.rar | wc -lAug 10 20:45
Tom_B22Aug 10 20:45
Tom_Bnow, that's not too much i guess ;-)Aug 10 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @gadius Los señores identicosos también deben leer esto: http://ur1.ca/4w0oa Por el bien de todos, no escribáis "lxs" o "l@s"Aug 10 20:46
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schestowitzI have just 2 rar files on my homedirAug 10 20:48
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMf571qtb_gAug 10 20:50
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DaemonFCsounds like MinceRland Aug 10 20:52
DaemonFCGuilty until ExecutedAug 10 20:52
MinceRwell, the nazis didn't get to executions yet...Aug 10 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] big free software day for me, chatting with !hurd and !librefm devs :PAug 10 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Having an IRC discussion about how the UK riots were part of class war, corporate press paints it as something else.Aug 10 20:53
DaemonFCMinceR, Does it have to do with that being frowned upon by the EU?Aug 10 20:53
DaemonFCbut throwing someone in prison on trumped up charges is perfectly ok, right?Aug 10 20:53
MinceRnot sureAug 10 20:54
MinceRof course they like to throw people in prisonAug 10 20:54
MinceReven without chargesAug 10 20:54
ender_33prison isn't a crime to the UNAug 10 20:54
MinceReven during the 20 years of "democracy" here, it was common to parade political enemies around in chains and shackles, put them into pre-trial detention and keep them there while the judicial system (slowly) found them innocentAug 10 20:56
MinceRnow hungaristan is moving on to show trialsAug 10 20:56
DaemonFCby that time they were so smeared that they were politically ineffectiveAug 10 20:56
DaemonFCand thus, no longer a threatAug 10 20:57
MinceRbut judging by the past performance of the EU, they'll just whine a bit and let everything slipAug 10 20:57
DaemonFCimpotent whiningAug 10 20:57
DaemonFCwhining impotentlyAug 10 20:57
DaemonFC:PAug 10 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Gaddafi strikes UK govt with their own rhetorics "Cameron must go, he lost all legitimacy because of riots". 2tu.us/3g1lAug 10 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] The Digital Library of Mathematical Functions http://dlmf.nist.gov/ !science #mathAug 10 20:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DLMF: NIST Digital Library of Mathematical Functions .::. Size~: 12.03 KBAug 10 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dolce & Gabbana in dock over 'killer jeans' - http://bit.ly/no9APO this is unwinnable: reputation counts for too much in this sectorAug 10 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Marriotti67: Not sure where this "the police aren't allowed to police anymore" is coming from..they were running horses through students.Aug 10 21:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @MikeHitchen Cameron,offenders to "face full force of the law"..apply to all offenders,or just those outside your elite circle of friends?Aug 10 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Social media reports : Police loyal to Cameron and the Queen genociding hundreds of thousands of pro democracy protestors in London.Aug 10 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Like the Oslo mayor said, we need more respect for each other, not more police. In the UK, more equality is needed, not excessive policing.Aug 10 21:06
DaemonFCwe need more police so the hippie to skull cracking ratio continues to growAug 10 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Increasing police force to address social crisis is the gross equivalent of cutting off limbs having cancer.The problems remain, suppressed.Aug 10 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The code, cited for unreal presentation of supposedly present body.Aug 10 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Statistical Genetics and Evolution of Quantitative Traits http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.1630 !science !biologyAug 10 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Does any other culture have an equivalent of "the locals?" #mustdoAug 10 21:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @fabsh Right on! (is this a reply? I don't see the context) ;)Aug 10 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Celebrating our 25th. Redoing our vows. New rings. Wife is size 6.5, me size 15. We got Tungsten, read the song: http://is.gd/KMd4l3Aug 10 21:14
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DaemonFC"INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — A decision by Indianapolis International Airport officials to take down a three-story sculptural painting and replace it with a video screen that will show advertising is being criticized by that artist and others."Aug 10 21:14
DaemonFCMinceR, please direct your attention to the jumbotron for instructions on what to buy during your stay in the USAug 10 21:15
DaemonFCB-)Aug 10 21:15
DaemonFCplane tickets cost more than twice what they did 10 years agoAug 10 21:16
DaemonFCI guess it's not enoughAug 10 21:16
MinceR:>Aug 10 21:16
DaemonFCMinceR, I've never traveled by plane largely because of the obscene price and the TSA thugsAug 10 21:16
DaemonFCI go by train, bus, or I rent a carAug 10 21:17
DaemonFCit takes a lot longer but I don't have anyone telling me to strip naked and bend over and cough after paying $600 for a ticketAug 10 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] New anti-censorship scheme could make it impossible to block individual sites http://goo.gl/mKQcAAug 10 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean Congratulations. Nice to here some good news.Aug 10 21:18
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schestowitzDaemonFC: no mandatory full-bosy x-ray for you thenAug 10 21:18
DaemonFCyeah, I don't want them seeing my dick and figuring I have an IED and telling me to stripAug 10 21:19
DaemonFCB-)Aug 10 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean Hear even. Here hear!Aug 10 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF to Court: Maintain Protections for Innocent Third Parties Accused of Patent Infringement https://eff.org/r.29QAug 10 21:19
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DaemonFCschestowitz, they use airplanes as a way to force everyone who wants to take a domestic flight to submit to their internal passport systemAug 10 21:21
DaemonFCknown as REAL IDAug 10 21:21
DaemonFCIndiana implemented it using state funding because our state government is just a bunch of yes men who rubber stamped anything Bush told them to doAug 10 21:22
DaemonFCit's called SECURE ID hereAug 10 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] By unscientific calculations, ~10 billion full-body x-rays at airports will cause more cancer fatalities than terrorist attacks preventedAug 10 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] By giving power to brutes who promise to protect you (e.g. from Bolsheviks) you can end up with far more fatalities. Reject illusions.Aug 10 21:23
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DaemonFClast I heard, it cost our state government $40 million to passively comply with this unfunded Federal edictAug 10 21:23
DaemonFCthe system isn't even really in effect because a handful of states passed laws against complying with itAug 10 21:23
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: enough with cutting the lard we need to cut into some of that meatAug 10 21:24
DaemonFCto avoid embarrassment, the DHS has kept granting them "extensions" without admitting that they are exemptAug 10 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hong Kong stock exchange hacked • by Trent Nouveau http://ping.fm/EPGTaAug 10 21:24
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DaemonFCI'm not moving to Montana to get around this thoughAug 10 21:24
DaemonFCthere's a provision in Indiana law that says if you currently have a valid drivers license and are unable to produce the required documents for REAL ID, they can issue you a non-compliant ID that still works as a drivers licenseAug 10 21:25
DaemonFCI intend to invoke that section of the SECURE ID Act when I have to renew my license next yearAug 10 21:25
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: is this for voting?Aug 10 21:25
DaemonFCyeah, you need a drivers license to vote, or a state ID, the state ID can be REAL ID compliant or not even if you never had one beforeAug 10 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Wiki Wednesday: August 10, 2011 http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/08/wiki-wednesday-august-10-2011/Aug 10 21:26
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DaemonFCthey'll try to push a REAL ID on you either wayAug 10 21:26
DaemonFCI expect them to have no idea what I am talking aboutAug 10 21:26
DaemonFCso I'm going to print out the SECURE ID act in entiretyAug 10 21:27
DaemonFCand highlight the section that allows me to exempt myselfAug 10 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can't recall exact quote, but Carlin has this way of saying he watches from afar, hearing, "why did we stand by and let them do this to us?"Aug 10 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @rms Massacre Used As Excuse http://ur1.ca/4w2mkAug 10 21:28
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DaemonFCit says if you "cannot" not if you "will not", but all I have to do is say I cannot produce the documents and wish to renew with a non-compliant licenseAug 10 21:28
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DaemonFCthey have RFID chips in them too nowAug 10 21:29
schestowitzWhat for?Aug 10 21:31
schestowitzPeople already carry cellphonesAug 10 21:31
MinceRcellphones can be turned offAug 10 21:31
schestowitzAnd the media/TV/fashion sells the illusion you don't count as a person if you don'\t carry on, switched onAug 10 21:32
schestowitzAnd Facebook account :-)Aug 10 21:32
MinceRto disable an RFID chip, you need to put it in a Faraday cageAug 10 21:32
schestowitzMinceR: then you don't need to buy themAug 10 21:32
schestowitzMinceR: so can PCs :-)Aug 10 21:32
MinceR(though that works for cellphones too)Aug 10 21:32
schestowitzIn running races we get rfid chipsAug 10 21:32
schestowitzFor the number we wearAug 10 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 10/8/2011: More Linux Tablets in Asia, Lies With Statistics http://ur1.ca/4w2n2 !techrightsAug 10 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 10/8/2011: More Linux Tablets in Asia, Lies With Statistics http://ur1.ca/4w2n2 #techrightsAug 10 21:33
schestowitzgood testing ground for the rfid industry, I thinkAug 10 21:33
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schestowitzand then they publish your time with name onlineAug 10 21:33
schestowitzWhether you want to or notAug 10 21:33
schestowitzSo my friend peeled off his rfid tagAug 10 21:33
schestowitzwhich was hardAug 10 21:33
schestowitzThey put two, one in each sideAug 10 21:33
DaemonFC"the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges."Aug 10 21:34
DaemonFCnice quoteAug 10 21:34
MinceRschestowitz: so, how did he know his time?Aug 10 21:34
schestowitzHey, how does Big RFID brother know a couple of having intercourse?Aug 10 21:34
schestowitzSame coordinate, one altitude dlightly above another :-pAug 10 21:34
schestowitz*slightlyAug 10 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Wow, even Len #Tower is on G+. @bkuhn, join us! #notatrollAug 10 21:34
schestowitz"Your honour, my defendant did NOT have sex with that lady. As the RFID logs clearly shows, he was an entire flood above"Aug 10 21:35
schestowitz*floor evenAug 10 21:35
schestowitzmaybe flooded her...Aug 10 21:35
schestowitzBut that's a typo issue..Aug 10 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @fontana Don't invite him in. I need at least one place where I don't have to read him.Aug 10 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] NYPD forms new social media unit to mine Facebook and Twitter for mayhem (NYDaily News): http://nydn.us/q46TApAug 10 21:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Are you in Boston? Looking for a couple of extras for a comedy/talk pilot I'm filming tonight.Aug 10 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] RT @linux_at_ibm: #IBM is platinum sponsor of #LinuxCon Aug 17-19 in Vancouver. Register today at: http://t.co/R4TSrnV #linux20thAug 10 21:38
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ender_33I couldn't go to the casino the other day because I didn't have ID with tracking in itAug 10 21:41
MinceRsee, not having RFID even protects your money :>Aug 10 21:42
DaemonFCmy psychiatrist is having his monthly PMS or somethingAug 10 21:43
DaemonFCwhere do you go when the psychiatrist starts mocking you? :)Aug 10 21:43
MinceRa second psychiatrist?Aug 10 21:44
DaemonFChah, good luck around hereAug 10 21:44
MinceRs/second/new/Aug 10 21:44
DaemonFCthis guy is an assholeAug 10 21:44
DaemonFCbarely speaks English but he's gotten veiled insults downAug 10 21:45
DaemonFCI don't really want to drive 30 miles to the psychiatrist that speaks English and doesn't wear a turban Aug 10 21:46
DaemonFC"that's not a name, it's a bad Scrabble hand!"Aug 10 21:46
DaemonFC:)Aug 10 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Moving Towards One Mozilla http://www.intothefuzz.com/2011/08/10/moving-towards-one-mozilla/Aug 10 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching "The Code" Citizens or part of a corporate formula? !capitalismAug 10 21:46
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MinceRthat's not a name, that's a numberAug 10 21:46
DaemonFCI should just go see that shoddy doctor that runs the de facto opiate den Aug 10 21:47
DaemonFChe must have taken a basic psychology course in medical schoolAug 10 21:47
DaemonFCand besides, he has a reputation for giving people whatever they wantAug 10 21:47
MinceR:>Aug 10 21:47
DaemonFCMinceR, There's one psychiatrist there named Umamaheswara Kalapatapu Aug 10 21:51
DaemonFCthis is the kind of psychiatrists community mental health centers stick you withAug 10 21:52
DaemonFCthey work cheap, are just barely competent, and hand out pillsAug 10 21:52
DaemonFCwhat more do you need?Aug 10 21:52
DaemonFCEnglish as a first language? pssshhaw!Aug 10 21:52
MinceRi don't go to psychiatristsAug 10 21:52
DaemonFCit's obvious why some states are clamping down on the poor and homelessAug 10 21:54
DaemonFCthey're hoping to drive them off to other statesAug 10 21:54
schestowitzpsychiatrists should visit psychiatristsAug 10 21:54
DaemonFCmake them their problemAug 10 21:54
schestowitzMany doAug 10 21:54
schestowitzTheir mates who speak about the same issuesAug 10 21:54
schestowitzMany psychiatrists go to psychiatry schools to better understand themselves and their own issuesAug 10 21:54
schestowitzThey can get a degree while trying to sort out their own messAug 10 21:55
DaemonFCand there are quite a few that do it to victimize the mentally illAug 10 21:55
DaemonFCand get paid for itAug 10 21:55
schestowitzThen they preach to others for profit, like Richard Simmons talking to fat peopleAug 10 21:55
DaemonFCthose are the ones that end up at the community mental health centersAug 10 21:55
DaemonFCschestowitz, Those are just another part of the systemAug 10 21:57
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80657500Aug 10 21:57
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 20:35:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I dumped Spideroak having used it for a couple of years. But if anyone is going to cloud their data they are the safest.(ish)Aug 10 21:57
DaemonFCI suspect much like the state social workers that treat you like a bum and mugshot and fingerprint youAug 10 21:57
DaemonFCI think they just wish that all poor / mentally ill people would go work for minimum wage or hang themselvesAug 10 21:58
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: you mean bus them off like how in NYC you can barely see any homeless people yet in center Phili you run the risk of tripping over quite a few sleeping in Market St. Station.Aug 10 22:00
DaemonFCState worker: "Oh, you're trying to find a job but there aren't any. Go home and eat your gun so this humiliation will end. Too many people in the world anyway"Aug 10 22:00
DaemonFCthat's how I see thisAug 10 22:01
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: municipal and state governments always play games like this with people, South Park did a whole episode making fun of itAug 10 22:01
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: anyway what do you think about the latest news of Amazon suing Apple for inciting publishers to fix and raise rates on digital copies of books?Aug 10 22:02
DaemonFCI haven't heard about it but I hope Amazon winsAug 10 22:02
DaemonFCprice fixing is always a bad thing for the customer :)Aug 10 22:02
DaemonFCApple is probably hoping that the publishers will force everyone's prices to Apple's levels or higherAug 10 22:03
DaemonFCso they don't have to competeAug 10 22:03
DaemonFCThe RIAA finally beat concessions out of Apple for iTunes downloadsAug 10 22:04
DaemonFCa lot of tracks there are now $1.29Aug 10 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mark Cuban Calls for Abolishment of Software Patents http://ur1.ca/4w2os #swpats #uspto #unrest #monopoly #protectionismAug 10 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Mark Cuban Calls for Abolishment of Software Patents http://ur1.ca/4w2os #markcuban #us #american #patents #businessmethods #softwarepatentsAug 10 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Google rep on programme makes what google is doing sound like "fun fun fun its got to go on" Apologies to CrassAug 10 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Citrix buys VDI personalization vendor, RingCube (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/n22j24Aug 10 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Billy Holiday, Amy Wnehouse compare and contrast. #musicAug 10 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] anyone mind telling me exactly how conkey-nox11 is supposed to work? O.oAug 10 22:04
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DaemonFCthe same tracks range from 60 cents to a dollar at competing storesAug 10 22:05
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: monkey see monkey do, they got to make up for the loss somewhere. Its probably why Apple is in talks to collaborate with Barnes & NobleAug 10 22:05
DaemonFCand the kicker is that the ipod plays MP3, but people still buy the expensive tracks from AppleAug 10 22:05
DaemonFCthat's just absurdAug 10 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] ie iAug 10 22:06
DaemonFCyou see two gas stations right beside each other, one is 10 cents a gallon cheaper, you pull in thereAug 10 22:06
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: well considering that everything Apple has to be done through iTunes, it just compells the layman to use itAug 10 22:06
DaemonFCwhy don't people apply that to other areas where it's all the same except the price?Aug 10 22:06
DaemonFCyou can use itunes to sync with music you didn't buy from AppleAug 10 22:07
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: its because they don't see it, for example Walmart is going to close their digital MP3 download service at the end of the month, every song on there was $0.88Aug 10 22:07
DaemonFCbut you're right, the mandatory itunes presence probably drives salesAug 10 22:07
DaemonFCeven though they are a lot more expensiveAug 10 22:07
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: however, I read they censor tracks so its not that compelling of an exampleAug 10 22:08
DaemonFCWalmart does, 7digital and Amazon don'tAug 10 22:08
ender_33https browsing is fast in i2pAug 10 22:08
DaemonFCboth of them are always cheaper than AppleAug 10 22:08
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: the only one I see squaring off well is Spotify, but thats because they have their own application that streams and downloads tracks onto the handset itself thus working around the whole iTunes sync issue.Aug 10 22:08
ender_33I've been told it should normally be that fast on the clearnet but monitoring slows it downAug 10 22:08
ender_33man in the middleAug 10 22:08
DaemonFCmaybe I'd use them if their Linux client didn't suck so badAug 10 22:09
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: Apple is going to cripple Spotify on the iPhone though, they already did with Amazon for their Kindle applicationAug 10 22:09
DaemonFCI'm not using Wine just to run SpotifyAug 10 22:09
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: there is also Grooveshark which is similar and but runs on Flash or Java.Aug 10 22:09
DaemonFCspeaking of WINEAug 10 22:09
ender_33WINE-ERSAug 10 22:10
DaemonFCFedora hasn't updated past 1.3.24 because the rewritten audio code breaks under PulseaudioAug 10 22:10
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: thats a bummer, I'm having enough problems to get the microphone working under pulseAug 10 22:11
ender_33http://www.prisonplanet.com/london-riots-twitter-users-face-arrest-for-inciting-looters.htmlAug 10 22:12
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ender_33might be a good reason to use i2p w/ twitter and create a pseudonameAug 10 22:12
ender_33trace this bitchesAug 10 22:13
Ziomatrixis hardware accelerated audio codec support the weakest link among desktop Linux clients yet? I know Creative has been a real PITA for some time, but I'm surprised about having a hard time with Intel.Aug 10 22:13
DaemonFCI do use the https everywhere extension Aug 10 22:13
DaemonFCit's quite niceAug 10 22:13
ender_33https everywhere is only one stepAug 10 22:13
ender_33you *should* use i2p, it beats tor hands down and doesn't have the exit node issueAug 10 22:13
DaemonFCit's better than nothingAug 10 22:14
Ziomatrixender_33: funny how come they can't physically defend anything anymore?Aug 10 22:14
ender_33it also gives you a dark net on top of that (if you want)Aug 10 22:14
DaemonFCCreative isn't even reliable when it comes to Windows driversAug 10 22:14
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: yea I remember the whole ongoing 64bit Vista 7 debacleAug 10 22:15
ender_33Creative was so bad with Windows drivers that it prompted Microsoft to put audio into the kernel and deny direct hardware access.Aug 10 22:15
DaemonFCaudio drivers are user space now, they have to ask the HAL to do anythingAug 10 22:15
Ziomatrixender_33: I'm surprised they're still in business with Realtek and Intel integrated eating up marketshareAug 10 22:16
DaemonFCwhich is a genuine improvement in Vista7Aug 10 22:16
ender_33Creative is probably living off of EAX royaltiesAug 10 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Latest Evidence That the USPTO is Morbidly Ill, Costing the Economy; Real Reform Likely http://ur1.ca/4w2sz #swpats #us #usptoAug 10 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Latest Evidence That the USPTO is Morbidly Ill, Costing the Economy; Real Reform Likely http://ur1.ca/4w2sz #reform #monopolyAug 10 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @bma An open letter to David Cameron's parents: http://ur1.ca/4w2ry #londonriotsAug 10 22:16
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DaemonFClately Windows is taking steps to protect itself from poorly written driversAug 10 22:16
ender_33I like the no unsigned drivers approachAug 10 22:16
DaemonFCthe drivers themselves are still flaky and crash a lot, but they don't usually take Windows with them anymoreAug 10 22:16
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: I remember those constant BSOD days. Aug 10 22:17
ender_33now, you can be playing a game while your gpu driver crashes and all you see is a flicker and you're backAug 10 22:17
DaemonFCyeah, it's more expensive to do userspace drivers for things like thisAug 10 22:18
DaemonFCin terms of CPU time and latencyAug 10 22:18
ender_33gotta hand it to microsoft on that one, they finally worked around their crashingAug 10 22:18
DaemonFCbut it does usually keep the system from melting down due to a driver problemAug 10 22:18
Ziomatrixender_33: now their business practices are their main concernAug 10 22:18
Ziomatrixender_33: I mean ours', but it seems they're on the move by getting the keys to the White Houses' ITAug 10 22:19
DaemonFCkernel mode drivers were only a huge problem on Windows because Microsoft didn't have anything to do with writing the drivers, there was no quality control to speak ofAug 10 22:19
DaemonFCand this is loaded into the kernelAug 10 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bma An open letter to David Cameron's parents: http://ur1.ca/4w2ry #londonriotsAug 10 22:19
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DaemonFCat least Linux has some quality standards about modules that ship with the kernelAug 10 22:19
DaemonFCthat's why they're usually not too much of a problemAug 10 22:20
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: the good thing about Linux is also the ability to add and remove firmware without resetting all the timeAug 10 22:20
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: libs are much easier to navigate then the jungle that is win32Aug 10 22:21
DaemonFCspeaking of firmware, ralink's is nonfree but it's a hell of a lot more reliable than Broadcom'sAug 10 22:21
DaemonFCthe blob for broadcom was ripped out of their Windows driver iircAug 10 22:21
DaemonFCfor wireless chipsets that isAug 10 22:21
DaemonFCthat's the only place I've ever had to step in and deal with firmware directlyAug 10 22:22
DaemonFCopenfwwf would be ok if it had hardware accelerated cryptography supportAug 10 22:22
DaemonFCif you use that on broadcom chips, it offloads all that onto your CPUAug 10 22:23
DaemonFCyuckAug 10 22:23
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: sadly finger print reading for passwords on Linux is dead in the water atmAug 10 22:23
DaemonFCtheir recommendation is to use no encryption or WEPAug 10 22:23
DaemonFCwhich is not acceptableAug 10 22:23
ender_33thats stupidAug 10 22:23
ender_33or waitAug 10 22:23
ender_33perhaps they use i2p as welllAug 10 22:23
ender_33lolAug 10 22:23
DaemonFCI use WPA2 PersonalAug 10 22:24
DaemonFCand mac address filteringAug 10 22:24
DaemonFCender_33, I'm even ballsy enough to name the SSID Fuck the PoliceAug 10 22:24
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DaemonFC20 feet from the Sheriff's office Aug 10 22:25
DaemonFCB-)Aug 10 22:25
DaemonFCerr not 20, but (guessing) more like 100Aug 10 22:25
DaemonFCstill, they must be able to see thisAug 10 22:25
DaemonFCstill they haven't done anything and it's been like this for yearsAug 10 22:26
DaemonFCone police officer I was speaking to didn't catch the reference when I called them the Milice Aug 10 22:27
DaemonFChe asked me what that was, I told him to go use WikipediaAug 10 22:27
DaemonFCit's good to see they still hire from the shallow end of the gene poolAug 10 22:28
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*DaemonFC hires jono to be his conscience and psychiatrist Aug 10 22:30
*DaemonFC knows jobo speaks EnglishAug 10 22:30
DaemonFCdoes jono dispense yummy pills?Aug 10 22:30
DaemonFC*jonoAug 10 22:30
DaemonFCjono makes billions off his new prozac baconAug 10 22:32
DaemonFCit is prozac and bacon, which are America's two favorite things in oneAug 10 22:32
ender_3317:22 < DaemonFC> ender_33, I'm even ballsy enough to name the SSID Fuck the PoliceAug 10 22:32
ender_33niceAug 10 22:32
ender_33mine used to be "Nutscrape Communications"Aug 10 22:32
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DaemonFCthe local government is pretty damned Nazi-esque Aug 10 22:33
DaemonFCthankfully their powers are limited to fining and otherwise harassing peopleAug 10 22:33
MinceRDaemonFC: jono as conscience? that's automatic failure. :>Aug 10 22:34
ender_33hmmmAug 10 22:34
DaemonFCender_33, They still have town hall meetings :PAug 10 22:34
ender_33im thinking of changing my ssidAug 10 22:34
ender_33ORAug 10 22:34
ender_33setting up an old router just to broadcast an offensive oneAug 10 22:34
DaemonFCone complaint was that the state government is playing the role of town governmentAug 10 22:34
MinceR:>Aug 10 22:34
DaemonFCI opined that someone has toAug 10 22:35
DaemonFC:)Aug 10 22:35
DaemonFC\they don't like meAug 10 22:35
MinceRender_33: you could have a honeypot APAug 10 22:35
ender_33"FUCK OFF BIG BROTHER - LEAVE ME ALONE MASONS"Aug 10 22:35
ender_33yeahAug 10 22:35
ender_33I couldAug 10 22:35
ender_33a captive portal with malwareAug 10 22:35
ender_33eeeeevil!Aug 10 22:35
ender_33it'll install a virus that gives them WubiAug 10 22:35
DaemonFCMinceR, I could be mayor and my policies would lead this town to relative improvement but I don't love Jesus enough and I'm gayAug 10 22:36
MinceRor a bandwidth-limited internet connection with MITM and/or that de-ssl trick against httpsAug 10 22:36
MinceRand loggingAug 10 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: "Dear Wikipedia: The Death of Mark Duggan is Notable" http://ur1.ca/4w2yfAug 10 22:36
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DaemonFCso they'll stick with the one that calls people Taliban and jacks up their taxes to spend on god only knows whatAug 10 22:36
DaemonFCdemocracy :)Aug 10 22:36
MinceRhttp proxy that randomly flips the occasional imageAug 10 22:36
ender_33be back laterAug 10 22:36
MinceRDaemonFC: do they know that you don't love jesus so much and that you're gay?Aug 10 22:37
MinceRthey don't have to knowAug 10 22:37
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: do you like Chinese democracy?Aug 10 22:37
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DaemonFCMinceR, Hallelujah, God's divine plan is speaking to me!Aug 10 22:37
DaemonFCNo new taxes!Aug 10 22:37
DaemonFCB-)Aug 10 22:37
MinceRlolAug 10 22:37
DaemonFCI can't see how they've managed to max out the local option income tax, and create taxes on everything down to ordering fast foodAug 10 22:38
DaemonFCand still we're among the worst counties to live in in IndianaAug 10 22:38
DaemonFCeven though we have the 2nd highest taxation rateAug 10 22:38
DaemonFCwhat could they be spending it on you say? up until a few months ago, the mayor had his wife employed for $50,000 a year as hius executive assistantAug 10 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The big do it yourself society obviously involves policing. Vigilante!Aug 10 22:39
DaemonFCthere are 16,000 people in this townAug 10 22:39
DaemonFC:)Aug 10 22:39
DaemonFCthat's one example, I'm sure there are moreAug 10 22:40
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: thats the exact reason, its called "public interest" it does the constituents good. For example a law is going to passed in a town somewhere that will let neighbors report eachother if they believe their houses are not kept well enough. They will receive a summons, fine and ultimately pay contractor X to "improve" the image of their house.Aug 10 22:40
DaemonFCthe roads and sidewalks are crumbling and we're being fined by the EPA for our sewage system, and he's hiring family members for highly paid title-only jobsAug 10 22:40
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: guess who would be the main backer of this bill?Aug 10 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] http://i.imgur.com/AauB3.jpg /via @psquid #londonriotsAug 10 22:41
DaemonFCZiomatrix, I've used such laws to my advantage before Aug 10 22:41
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MinceRZiomatrix: that's brutal. here they only dared to do that to people on unemployment benefitsAug 10 22:41
MinceRyetAug 10 22:41
DaemonFCthe neighbor hadn't mowed the lawn in so long it looked like a tropical rainforestAug 10 22:41
DaemonFCso I called the ordinance officerAug 10 22:41
DaemonFCand they mowed it for himAug 10 22:41
DaemonFCcharged him $400Aug 10 22:41
DaemonFCbeen mowed every week sinceAug 10 22:42
DaemonFCB-)Aug 10 22:42
MinceRwell, except for their crusade on ragweed, of courseAug 10 22:42
MinceRwhich applies to everyoneAug 10 22:42
MinceRat least to everyone who doesn't have good enough connectionsAug 10 22:42
DaemonFCif they have to go mow your lawn, they should charge you $400Aug 10 22:42
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: I wonder what would happen if you can't afford to stain your house soon enough?Aug 10 22:42
DaemonFChell, you could buy a nice lawnmower for thatAug 10 22:42
DaemonFCit's your property, take care of itAug 10 22:42
MinceRDaemonFC: why do you care what the neighbor's lawn looks like, though?Aug 10 22:43
DaemonFCmosquitoes and suchAug 10 22:43
DaemonFCfat bees making nests over thereAug 10 22:43
ZiomatrixMinceR: they don't give a damn about people who already live there, only the developers an real estate that would heighten property values.Aug 10 22:43
MinceRi thought mosquitoes needed a body of waterAug 10 22:43
DaemonFCother nuisance bugs and pestsAug 10 22:43
DaemonFCMinceR, his yard was breeding something that bites the hell out of youAug 10 22:44
DaemonFCand it was getting into my yardAug 10 22:44
MinceRicAug 10 22:44
MinceRdid the mowing stop it?Aug 10 22:44
DaemonFCalso, the weeds over there were spreading into my yardAug 10 22:44
DaemonFCyeahAug 10 22:44
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ZiomatrixDaemonFC: if thats the case you can probably summon them on an individual basis for creating a hazard. Aug 10 22:44
DaemonFCMinceR, I took a gallon of roundup and hosed down his stinging nettle patch which was growing into my yardAug 10 22:45
DaemonFCand it took about a year before the grass even grew back after thatAug 10 22:45
MinceRno surpriseAug 10 22:45
MinceRthat stuff was designed to kill plants, wasn't it?Aug 10 22:45
DaemonFCyeahAug 10 22:45
DaemonFCI used a bit of it to spray down poison ivy that was growing on the side of my houseAug 10 22:45
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: I also see these laws as a way to make it affordable for families who have owned acres of land for generations thus making it easier for developers to snatch it right up for the latest stripmall.Aug 10 22:45
DaemonFCbut most of the gallon went to the nettlesAug 10 22:46
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: unaffordable I meantAug 10 22:46
DaemonFCMinceR, That stuff works, it's toxic as all hell though, to humansAug 10 22:46
DaemonFCbut within a couple days the poison ivy was dying and falling off the houseAug 10 22:46
DaemonFC:)Aug 10 22:46
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: I have used it to take care of weeds growing between pavement. But aren't you suppose to still uproot them before spraying?Aug 10 22:47
DaemonFCI was wearing gloves, goggles, and a painters maskAug 10 22:47
*MinceR doesn't mind "weeds" for the most partAug 10 22:47
DaemonFCmost people don't and if the wind happens to shift and it gets in your eyes or lungs you can end up in the emergency roomAug 10 22:47
DaemonFCI didn'tAug 10 22:47
DaemonFCthey all diedAug 10 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple is Killing Jobs, Killing Products http://ur1.ca/4w30f #swpats #linux #patents #europe #germany #embargoAug 10 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Apple is Killing Jobs, Killing Products http://ur1.ca/4w30f #microsoft #cartel #eu #sanction #antitrust #android #tabletAug 10 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @@laurelrusswurm http://i.imgur.com/AauB3.jpg /via @psquid #londonriotsAug 10 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @davidgerard Non-racists: we're being dragged somewhere horrible. Be principled &stop nodding along with bigots out of awkward politeness.Aug 10 22:48
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: I guess for vines its different.Aug 10 22:48
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MinceRapple is killing Jobs?Aug 10 22:48
DaemonFCit's poison ivy, I'm not touching itAug 10 22:48
DaemonFCmy landlord told me he'd take something off my rent if I took care of that vine problemAug 10 22:49
DaemonFCdidn't mention it was poison ivyAug 10 22:49
DaemonFCwanted me to tear it down by handAug 10 22:49
DaemonFCso I deducted the gallon of roundup from my rent and told him "you're welcome"Aug 10 22:49
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: I guess in that situation its more prudent to use a bit more.Aug 10 22:50
DaemonFCoh MinceR, my TV is working fine again, yay!Aug 10 22:50
DaemonFCwhy in the name of god would they put a firmware update for this model on their siteAug 10 22:50
DaemonFCthen blame ME for applying itAug 10 22:50
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DaemonFCand say not all of that model are the same modelAug 10 22:50
MinceRyou've mentioned itAug 10 22:50
DaemonFCI know, but that still angers meAug 10 22:50
DaemonFCI could be packing up a bricked 40" television right nowAug 10 22:51
DaemonFCfuckersAug 10 22:51
ZiomatrixMinceR: Apple is not killing jobs only other compete products. All products from Apple to Samsung are manufactured by the same Chinese outsourced contractors anyway so no loss to them.Aug 10 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Dianne Abbot much in common with Tony Blair not worth listening to. Raise your class do not rise out of it.Aug 10 22:51
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DaemonFCmaybe I'll review it and mention not to upgrade the firmwareAug 10 22:51
MinceRZiomatrix: the capital is important this time :>Aug 10 22:51
ZiomatrixMinceR: yea, Apples' shares seem to be unnaturally defying the market today. Along with Dunkin Donuts.Aug 10 22:52
DaemonFCmore copsAug 10 22:53
DaemonFCmore donutsAug 10 22:53
ZiomatrixMinceR: iTunes becomes more precious then oil according to Wallstreet: http://bit.ly/oM43y2Aug 10 22:53
DaemonFCthe donut bubbleAug 10 22:53
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DaemonFCoink oinkAug 10 22:53
DaemonFCand rich people buy Macs because they're insulated from the shitty economyAug 10 22:54
DaemonFCwhat's surprising?Aug 10 22:54
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: those Milice need to something to listen to while on the beatAug 10 22:54
MinceRZiomatrix: crApple bubbleAug 10 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana Do you really find G+ less #problematic than #diaspora?Aug 10 22:54
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: well thats a better analysis Aug 10 22:54
DaemonFCthe rich people petition the government, using their Macs, to hire more police to get the poor people somewhere they don't have to see themAug 10 22:55
DaemonFCthe increase in cops causes more donut salesAug 10 22:55
DaemonFCthe two are related, I believeAug 10 22:56
ZiomatrixlolAug 10 22:56
MinceRlolAug 10 22:56
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ZiomatrixDaemonFC: Gold is also going up, but those people are gonna have to cash in their loot somewhere eventually.Aug 10 22:58
DaemonFCimailed my congressman and promised him a nice campaign donation if he'd hire more cops to get rid of the poor people, pass more bills to make applying for welfare more like being booked by the police, and fight Chairman Maobama's dastardly plan to raise my taxes 3%Aug 10 22:59
DaemonFCbecause billions minus 3% is mere billionsAug 10 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies I think G+ and #diaspora are somehow in different conceptual categories. #heehawAug 10 22:59
DaemonFChow do they expect me to live?Aug 10 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @mairin According to Linux.com, #Fedora is 2011's top desktop distro http://ur1.ca/4w30uAug 10 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana different in that you've already admitted defeat to #tehgoogs?Aug 10 22:59
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ZiomatrixDaemonFC: don't forget making it harder for low income people with no driver licenses and updated passports to vote.Aug 10 23:00
DaemonFCZiomatrix, the law says if you're poor, they'll waive the $10 fee fgor a state ID, but you have to go gather documents to prove you're poor, which cost more than $10Aug 10 23:00
DaemonFCthe state supreme court found that acceptable Aug 10 23:00
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: lol so extorting people to vote lends a new line of credit to "lean government?"Aug 10 23:01
DaemonFCthey're reclaiming $10 of those illicit food stamps you're buying infant formula withAug 10 23:02
DaemonFClook at it from their perspectiveAug 10 23:02
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: if anyone in the federal government had sense or perhaps enough of those to back Obama to get him re-elected need to lay a 14th Amendment smackdown on that nonsense.Aug 10 23:02
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ZiomatrixDaemonFC: but don't food stamps come in a debit card like form now which means they already have an allotted allowance?Aug 10 23:03
DaemonFCyeahAug 10 23:03
DaemonFCyou know you can buy tampons with those now?Aug 10 23:03
DaemonFCthey're defined as a consumableAug 10 23:03
DaemonFCbecause you put it in your bodyAug 10 23:03
DaemonFCbut they won't buy padsAug 10 23:03
DaemonFCor diapersAug 10 23:04
DaemonFC:)Aug 10 23:04
MinceRso, can you buy bullets and knives with food stamps?Aug 10 23:04
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: lol, I remember someone who used food stamps to buy expensive cheeses and wineAug 10 23:04
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: if you're a college student that states they hardly have an income back in the day you were able to get them to compliment your income.Aug 10 23:05
DaemonFCyou can't buy anything with alcohol in itAug 10 23:06
DaemonFCbut you can buy junk foodAug 10 23:06
DaemonFCand soda with empty caloriesAug 10 23:06
ZiomatrixMinceR: they only accept bullets with foodstamps if you intend to shoot yourself ;-) http://bit.ly/pqNBIBAug 10 23:06
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DaemonFCBUNDY!!!!!Aug 10 23:08
schestowitzAL!Aug 10 23:08
schestowitzAldyAug 10 23:08
MinceR:DAug 10 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz #Apple is Killing Jobs, Killing Products http://ur1.ca/4w30f #swpats #linux #patents #europe #germany #embargoAug 10 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @psquid @schestowitz Apple is killing Jobs? ;pAug 10 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb @psquid that's a bit of a harsh way to replace their CEO after all he's done for them ;PAug 10 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies No, perhaps related to something I once said, that proprietary relicensing is worse than proprietary licensingAug 10 23:09
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Ziomatrixcan't be more motivated to be un-motivated then him. Ahh the good ole'days when the ESRB wasn't up to speed and shows shot the bow with clever hints and analogies. Aug 10 23:10
DaemonFCJefferson: "If you put a 'd' where the 'n' is, your a buddy"Aug 10 23:10
DaemonFCAl: "And you put a 'n' where the 'd' is, i'm a bunny, what's your point!"Aug 10 23:10
DaemonFCB-)Aug 10 23:10
MinceR:)Aug 10 23:10
Ziomatrix:-DAug 10 23:11
Ziomatrixso can anyone tell me whats really going on in London, all we get stateside is either nothing or Faux News coverageAug 10 23:12
schestowitzMinceR: Hungry: http://techrights.org/2011/08/10/biggest-technology-bully/Aug 10 23:13
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schestowitzHungary I meantAug 10 23:13
DaemonFCit's Rupert Murdoch's supportersAug 10 23:13
DaemonFCmad because he didn't get to by SkyAug 10 23:13
DaemonFC*buyAug 10 23:13
DaemonFC:)Aug 10 23:13
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: lol, its not the first time capitalists took over an island for American interests. Case in point Hawaii Aug 10 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Windows — Just Like Microsoft — Does Not Play Nice With GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/4w338 #gnu #linux #microsoft #windowsAug 10 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Windows — Just Like Microsoft — Does Not Play Nice With GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/4w338 !gnu !linuxAug 10 23:14
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ZiomatrixDaemonFC: yes Mr. Murdoch is an Aussie but you know where his heart isAug 10 23:14
schestowitz$$Aug 10 23:15
schestowitzAnd maybe zionismAug 10 23:15
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: well I wouldn't say Hawaii was taken for American interests. Mainly United Fruit, sugar and coffee plantation owners.Aug 10 23:15
MinceRschestowitz: what has that article got to do with hungary?Aug 10 23:15
schestowitzMinceR: the videoAug 10 23:15
schestowitzmemories from absurdistan visitAug 10 23:16
MinceRoh.Aug 10 23:16
Ziomatrixschestowitz: what exactly does Zionism mean to most people now? I know those who are protesting in Israel due to rent believe in it too.Aug 10 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Forget the military industrial complex. The real problem is the industrial political corruption complex. #politicsAug 10 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] At times of crisis, we all wanted the looters contained. But in the aftermath we want social justice to pretend more riots, not more police.Aug 10 23:16
schestowitzZiomatrix: they could also protest for their neighbours whose house are raided by thugsAug 10 23:17
MinceRgnAug 10 23:17
schestowitznnAug 10 23:17
Ziomatrixschestowitz: many of them could very well be those people, the IDF is mostly conscripts after all.Aug 10 23:17
Ziomatrixanyway I believe using Zionism as some political volley ball just as fear of Islam and Socialism never solves much.Aug 10 23:19
schestowitzIt's another form of radical nationalismAug 10 23:19
Ziomatrixschestowitz: just as Arab nationalism?Aug 10 23:20
schestowitzExploited by th right wing along with religion to incite people to get other people's landAug 10 23:20
schestowitzFueling the fire are stories of fanatics who also shoot and act violently, like GoldbergAug 10 23:20
schestowitzSo some would call it nazionismAug 10 23:20
schestowitzI think religion is  the cause of many issuesAug 10 23:20
schestowitzhere tooAug 10 23:20
schestowitzMany of them are uneducated and have many kidsAug 10 23:21
schestowitzLive on welfareAug 10 23:21
schestowitzOr money-lending, drugs, illegal dealingsAug 10 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz By giving power to brutes who promise to protect you (e.g. from Bolsheviks) you can end up with far more fatalities. Rej ...Aug 10 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff EFF to Court: Maintain Protections for Innocent Third Parties Accused of Patent Infringement https://eff.org/r.29QAug 10 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] congratulations! @wayneboreanAug 10 23:21
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schestowitzIn Norway too religion was at the crux of the violenceAug 10 23:21
schestowitzAlthough in reverse directions, althought the crazed shooter too is said to have been motivated by religion and played GodAug 10 23:21
schestowitzAny state that builds itself upon religon is, IMHO, a lagging stateAug 10 23:22
Ziomatrixschestowitz: funny nobody gave this much attention to Ted Kaczynski nor Timothy Mcveigh's beliefs. You are proven guilty of a crime you do the time, the end.Aug 10 23:22
schestowitzIn the collapsing US the religious fanatics are not phasing in the revisionism that the US was created as a "Christian nation"Aug 10 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 how could i foresee what i paid you for. Next time i'll try it on basecampAug 10 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Like the Oslo mayor said, we need more respect for each other, not more police. In the UK, more equality is needed, not ...Aug 10 23:23
schestowitzAnd MinceR said that Queen Vikotora is now putting the religions more in charge of educationation (indoctrination)Aug 10 23:23
Ziomatrixschestowitz: then how come nobody has a problem with Malaysia and the Arab emirates?Aug 10 23:23
schestowitz[23:22] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: funny nobody gave this much attention to Ted Kaczynski nor Timothy Mcveigh's beliefs. You are proven guilty of a crime you do the time, the end.Aug 10 23:23
schestowitzBig killers are often smartAug 10 23:23
schestowitzThat's why they become big kilelrsAug 10 23:23
schestowitzDumb people can't become big killersAug 10 23:23
schestowitzSo your pulling of exceptions doesn't workAug 10 23:24
Ziomatrixschestowitz: and the fact that people now talk about their motives publicly only justifies their motivations and others like them.Aug 10 23:24
schestowitzAnd AFAIK Mcveigh was possible a religious nut working within a clique/militia of equally sick-minded and morally-depraved peopleAug 10 23:24
schestowitz[23:23] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: then how come nobody has a problem with Malaysia and the Arab emirates?Aug 10 23:25
schestowitzThey have $$Aug 10 23:25
schestowitzThe West needed a good relationship with themAug 10 23:25
schestowitzSo Western media doesn't p;ick on themAug 10 23:25
schestowitzIt would pick on Pakistan and the likeAug 10 23:25
schestowitzOil pipesAug 10 23:25
Ziomatrixschestowitz: terrorism is the criminal means for obtaining public attention for political concessions just as robbery seeks to take monetary.Aug 10 23:25
schestowitzThere are other definitions for "terrorism"Aug 10 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mairin fixed link... While some look the other way, this applies to Google too. http://ur1.ca/4w1y5 #nymwarsAug 10 23:26
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: what else can it be? Its better to work around it then discuss the what ifs. Its not as though the families of victims in Iraq and Mexico ever get much coverage to voice their grief. Aug 10 23:28
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/80661350Aug 10 23:32
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-11 22:26:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Equality in fact rather than fiction is a very good start.Aug 10 23:32
Ziomatrixschestowitz: and you can't compare what the IDF does as outright terrorism as it occupied the territories after driving out Jordan and Egyptian forces post-1967. Neither of those countries political leaders want its responsibility again. Many Israelis are fed up with the occupation as the current government has siphoned off much from welfare and education towards military because of it. Its not nice to just polarize tAug 10 23:32
Ziomatrixhe issue as black and white all the time. Aug 10 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To avoid becoming morally and financially bankrupt, the West must end military budgets unilaterally. 'Jobs' would be lost... making bombs.Aug 10 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wxl @publicdomainrev offers reviews of Public Domain pieces http://publicdomainreview.org/ /via @creativecommons !free !cc #fbAug 10 23:34
Ziomatrixschestowitz: that just means arms making will be outsourced like so much else nowAug 10 23:34
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TechrightsBot-trschestowitz: that just means arms making will be outsourced like so much else nowAug 10 23:35
schestowitzZiomatrix: i didn't blamew the militaryAug 10 23:35
schestowitzit does a jobAug 10 23:35
schestowitzbut whose?Aug 10 23:35
schestowitzNations all  around the world recruit sodldiers who are oung and stupidAug 10 23:36
schestowitzIt's easier to tame thoseAug 10 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Google Pulls Plug On Programming For the Masses - http://bit.ly/oRjVVo #google really looks rudderless - no, make that clu ...Aug 10 23:36
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: usually for republics its meant to defend the people, so far as misguided as it may seem to many observers the IDF has done that for Israelis by eliminating bombmaking threats and being the front line thus target for those very people.Aug 10 23:36
schestowitzTeens who compete for status with a social ladder that's measured in terms of toughnessAug 10 23:36
schestowitzTHey are even given medal-like symbols, to shame or give pride to thenAug 10 23:37
schestowitzClassifying soldiers like Nazis classed citizensAug 10 23:37
Ziomatrixschestowitz: but what about countries that conscript all young adults?Aug 10 23:37
schestowitzThis is a unitary thing across militariesAug 10 23:37
schestowitzAnd the young people are too darn dumb to think, they go wityh peer pressureAug 10 23:37
schestowitzThey wage wars for rich peopleAug 10 23:37
schestowitzwho expand property Aug 10 23:37
schestowitzPrivatising new national resourcesAug 10 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] CoC's 'Victims Of Internet Piracy' Look More Like 'Victims Of Propagandist Exploitation' http://goo.gl/SaOQ7Aug 10 23:38
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schestowitz[23:37] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: but what about countries that conscript all young adults?Aug 10 23:38
schestowitzthat's an attack on freedomAug 10 23:38
schestowitzAttack on freedom not to killAug 10 23:38
schestowitzOr not to aid those who do killAug 10 23:38
Ziomatrixschestowitz: you also have to consider benefits of serving many Western militaries are straightforward, you serve and it pays your way through college, secures jobs through resume and peers as well. It also extends them to immediate family.Aug 10 23:39
schestowitzTHose responsible for such system  should be brought to a tribunalAug 10 23:39
schestowitzFor using children as cannon fodderAug 10 23:39
schestowitzBut the West is not yet civilised enough to do thisAug 10 23:39
schestowitzZiomatrix: that's thrdeterrence/reward trickAug 10 23:39
schestowitzIt doesn't make it any betterAug 10 23:39
schestowitzAnd this system might be OK for maybe 50% of people in the West, the miklitrismAug 10 23:40
schestowitzThe West is still less than 10% of the worldAug 10 23:40
schestowitzDepending what you classify as WestAug 10 23:40
schestowitzTo the worl;d at large, this system is like 99% harmfulAug 10 23:40
schestowitzThe other 1% are the cronies selling out their countries to the WestAug 10 23:40
Ziomatrixschestowitz: but what about when most people are complicit with the state due to the fact they all served? Aug 10 23:40
schestowitzThe occupiersAug 10 23:40
schestowitzhoarding and pillagihg national resources and human resources (labour)Aug 10 23:41
Ziomatrixschestowitz: well China also has a similar system of conscripting lower income folks into the PLA as ticket to get into the CCP.Aug 10 23:41
schestowitzChina is not a role modelAug 10 23:41
schestowitzIt's a disgrace for humansAug 10 23:41
Ziomatrixschestowitz: so far the West Bank has had no resources that have benefited the state of Israel to speak of besides perhaps religious artifacts and locales that benefit a few. Aside from that Israel occupies the West Bank for security, not only from terrorists but also strategic depth from any conventional army.Aug 10 23:43
Ziomatrixschestowitz: the way to neutralize the occupation is to sooth the fear of more conflict. Hopefully one good effect of Arab Spring will be governments that reflect the peoples wishes so any peace overtures from surrounding countries to Israel can be more genuine.Aug 10 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I will be covering !OggCamp exclusively via G+ http://sixgun.org/blog/2011/oggcamp-via-google-plus (includes link with 150 invites)Aug 10 23:44
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schestowitzI was talking in general of the WestAug 10 23:44
Ziomatrixschestowitz: unfortunately you can't have a world body that trusts each other until every representative comes from those who reflect the interests of their society at large. Aug 10 23:47
Ziomatrixschestowitz: but that also means people have to participate as well. Many are satisfied with letting "professionals" handle it. Democracy is messy in general. It gives parodies like this a valid underlyiAug 10 23:50
Ziomatrixunderlying meaning: http://bit.ly/nE9YVfAug 10 23:50
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*schestowitz clicksAug 10 23:50
schestowitzah, it's a fake partyAug 10 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I would rather see people out of work than making bombs.Bombs kill people but also increase birth rates, to avert loss of a children in war.Aug 10 23:51
DaemonFChttps://www.npr.org/2011/07/27/138761682/georgia-company-exports-chopsticks-to-chinaAug 10 23:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Georgia Company Exports Chopsticks To China : NPR .::. Size~: 63.76 KBAug 10 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @cer Latest #fb #privacy outrage: if you use the phone app, it imports ALL your phone numbers into #facebook. Want to see: A http://u ...Aug 10 23:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: china ran out of lumber?Aug 10 23:53
Ziomatrixschestowitz: true, but that is wishful thinking. It would be nice to see more of that Defense spending and technology benefit civilians for a change. The tide has been visa versa with NASA Shuttle Employees stating they can most likely find similar work in Afghanistan repairing guidance systems.Aug 10 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @reality Did you know that @psquid has implemented the statusnet API in every language including Hopi?Aug 10 23:54
DaemonFCschestowitz, they're probably buying something to appease the US government or the WTOAug 10 23:55
DaemonFCthat's my guessAug 10 23:55
schestowitzDaemonFC: how does a Chinese man know a chopstick is Made in U.S.A.?Aug 10 23:55
Ziomatrixschestowitz: US exports a lot of grain and other perishables to China. Chopsticks makes sense.Aug 10 23:55
DaemonFCso they can point and say they do something FOR the American economy tooAug 10 23:55
schestowitzAlong the stick it states, "this product is patent pending #8263236"Aug 10 23:56
Ziomatrixschestowitz: also with Chinese land in mostly government hands and heavily regulated to avoid dust storms American lumber is probably quite a bit cheaper.Aug 10 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb CoC's 'Victims Of Internet Piracy' Look More Like 'Victims Of Propagandist Exploitation' http://goo.gl/SaOQ7Aug 10 23:56
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ZiomatrixlolAug 10 23:56
schestowitzCoc's victimAug 10 23:56
DaemonFCZiomatrix, it wouldn't surprise me if it's not US lumberAug 10 23:56
DaemonFCwe probably buy it from CanadaAug 10 23:56
schestowitzUS chamberAug 10 23:56
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: trueAug 10 23:57
Ziomatrixschestowitz: anyway what I should have stated is people generally get the government they deserve. Aug 10 23:58
schestowitzNot reallyAug 10 23:59
schestowitzThey don't have choicesAug 10 23:59
schestowitzThey lose those shortly after a state is createdAug 10 23:59
schestowitzAnd egenrations dueAug 10 23:59
schestowitz*dieAug 10 23:59
schestowitzThe power structures consolidateAug 10 23:59

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