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twitterickAug 21 00:04
twitterHP's exit from PCs is really big news.Aug 21 00:05
twitterit shows that Microsoft's empire is collapsing Aug 21 00:06
DaemonFCthey're not exiting, they're spinning that division offAug 21 00:07
_GoblinHi!Aug 21 00:10
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to _GoblinAug 21 00:10
_Goblin....Aug 21 00:11
MinceR::Aug 21 00:13
MinceRDaemonFC: which would mean HP exiting that marketAug 21 00:13
schestowitzyeahAug 21 00:22
schestowitzback to printers and enterprise staffAug 21 00:22
schestowitz!google hurd ballmer emailAug 21 00:22
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Unsealed court filing: HP's Hurd had Vista concerns | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/unsealed-court-filing-hps-hurd-had-vista-concerns/10963Aug 21 00:22
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft: Don't Mess With HP - Forbes.com | http://www.forbes.com/2008/11/21/vista-hp-msft-tech-enter-cx_bc_1121vista.htmlAug 21 00:22
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - CRN Community: FUDWatch: In Their Own Words: Ballmer And Hurd Talk ... | http://community.crn.com/blogs/fudwatch/2010/01/15/in-their-own-words-ballmer-and-hurd-talk-about-the-cloudAug 21 00:22
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Steve Ballmer & Mark Hurd: Microsoft/Hewlett-Packard Joint ... | http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/steve/2010/01-13MSHP.mspxAug 21 00:22
twitterany way you look at it, the division is a dogAug 21 00:23
twitterand expected to be a loserAug 21 00:23
DaemonFCKubuntu Oneiric is already looking really goodAug 21 00:24
DaemonFCUnity is still a disaster, I tried a daily build of it todayAug 21 00:24
DaemonFChow can omgubuntu be defending this crap?Aug 21 00:24
DaemonFCevery post is about Unity getting some totally awesome feature then when you try to use it, it is totally brokenAug 21 00:25
DaemonFCas for Kubuntu, Muon turned out better than I expected, it can do anything Synaptic can doAug 21 00:26
DaemonFCwhich is something that Kubuntu has never had before, KPackageKit is just too generic for its own goodAug 21 00:27
DaemonFCit fails to really take advantage of any package management system it sits atop, striving to be a lowest common denominatorAug 21 00:27
DaemonFCit works equally bad everywhereAug 21 00:27
twitterheh, I'm still not sure that I like KDE 4 yetAug 21 00:29
DaemonFCwhen the specification for packagekit was originally drawn up I was excited that there might finally be some consistency, at least for the frontend the user sees, but it turns out it's just consistently badAug 21 00:29
twitterKword is broken in debian testing and unstable Aug 21 00:29
DaemonFCtwitter: They still have KOffice?Aug 21 00:30
DaemonFCCalligra is available for Kubuntu nowAug 21 00:30
twitteryes, I know that upstream recently renamed itAug 21 00:30
DaemonFCbut it still ships with the Bloated Office forkAug 21 00:30
twitterthat has not made it's way inAug 21 00:30
DaemonFCI think Kubuntu should throw LibreOffice overboardAug 21 00:30
DaemonFCand just put in CalligraAug 21 00:30
DaemonFCwhich is much nicerAug 21 00:31
twitterI'm not sure the name change will fix the kword bug Aug 21 00:31
DaemonFCit doesn't take ten years to start up on a quad core system with tons of RAMAug 21 00:31
twitterI use Open Office every day because kword broke.Aug 21 00:31
twitterIf you keep at least one thing open, Open Office does not take long to startAug 21 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: 25,000 Danish hospital staff to move to LibreOffice http://tinyurl.com/3pyxw4s #microsoft #office #mvpbuzz #mvp #fossAug 21 00:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 25,000 Danish hospital staff to move to LibreOffice | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 25.34 KBAug 21 00:32
DaemonFCI hate OOoAug 21 00:32
twitterI only need Open Office because the place I work still uses paper.Aug 21 00:32
DaemonFCLibreOffice improves on it but it's still pretty badAug 21 00:32
twitterit works for meAug 21 00:33
DaemonFCI think its main feature (if you can call it that) is being able to write out MS Office Fauxpen XMLAug 21 00:33
DaemonFCotherwise, Calligra can do everything Aug 21 00:33
twitterI keep everything in odfAug 21 00:33
twitterthe data compression is a little irritating because I have to use a special script to look for things, but I only have a few hundred things to look throughAug 21 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @openbytes LINK: 25,000 Danish hospital staff to move to LibreOffice http://tinyurl.com/3pyxw4s #microsoft #office #mvpbuzz #mvp #fossAug 21 00:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 25,000 Danish hospital staff to move to LibreOffice | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 25.34 KBAug 21 00:35
DaemonFCI'm not wild about ODF either but at least it's documented and possible to implement outside of one particular office suiteAug 21 00:37
DaemonFCit's more than you can say for OOXMLAug 21 00:37
MinceRgnAug 21 00:38
schestowitznnAug 21 00:38
schestowitzso far my experiments run well tonight...Aug 21 00:39
schestowitzI just fread the odd values here and there ruining hours of workAug 21 00:39
schestowitz*dreadAug 21 00:39
MinceRvalueToUse[i] = originalValue[i] * 2;Aug 21 00:40
MinceRthere, no more odd values!Aug 21 00:40
DaemonFCMinceR knows that values can only come from the One True GodAug 21 00:41
DaemonFC:)Aug 21 00:41
DaemonFCbut there's a lot of One True GodsAug 21 00:42
DaemonFCso just find the one that matches what you want to hear and roll with itAug 21 00:42
DaemonFCoccasionally band together to persecute atheists and homosexualsAug 21 00:42
DaemonFCit's funAug 21 00:42
DaemonFCsend you kids to indoctrination campsAug 21 00:43
DaemonFCfun for the entire familyAug 21 00:43
DaemonFCremember, the family that prays together stays together, even if one of them gets in a car accident and dies apparentlyAug 21 00:44
DaemonFCor dad finds out mom has been screwing aroundAug 21 00:44
DaemonFClittle things like life never pop that bubble you seeAug 21 00:44
twittertry not to do what God told this family to do http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-6009742-504083.htmlAug 21 00:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DA: Kevin and Elizabeth Schatz Killed Daughter With "Religious Whips" for Mispronouncing Word - Crimesider - CBS News .::. Size~: 112.21 KBAug 21 00:45
schestowitzMinceR: if only it wqs that simple :-)Aug 21 00:45
DaemonFCMinceR: The value of life says that I'm supposed to eat dead animalsAug 21 00:45
schestowitzi get errors nowAug 21 00:45
DaemonFCand it also says that the state should execute persons for arbitrary reasonsAug 21 00:46
twitterplease also do not get up to family fun like these people did http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2087711,00.html?hpt=hp_t2Aug 21 00:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mennonite Serial Rape Trial in Bolivia Agonizes Community - TIME .::. Size~: 54.31 KBAug 21 00:46
DaemonFClike not getting proper representation because they are poorAug 21 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Im still giving out Diaspora and Google+ invites if anyone wants them. #googleplus #diaspora #linux #foss #facebookAug 21 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @openbytes Im still giving out #Diaspora and #Google+ invites if anyone wants them. #googleplus #linux #foss #facebookAug 21 00:48
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DaemonFCMinceR: The value of life says that people can be killed over $5Aug 21 00:51
DaemonFCor for no reason at allAug 21 00:51
DaemonFC:)Aug 21 00:51
DaemonFClife is not very fair, you might take the train to work, or you might get jumped by a rapist along the wayAug 21 00:51
_Goblinand if life was fair, it would be rather predictable and boringAug 21 00:52
DaemonFCno wonder so many people resort to praying, which is just wishing is were (or wasn't) soAug 21 00:52
_Goblinno always....praying can just be giving thanks...Aug 21 00:53
DaemonFCreligion encourages people to pretend they have a magic lamp and a genie Aug 21 00:53
DaemonFCit's all about youAug 21 00:53
DaemonFC:)Aug 21 00:53
_GoblinI disagree....Aug 21 00:53
_Goblinnot all prayer is about wanting things...Aug 21 00:53
_Goblinsometimes its just to say thanks for what you have.Aug 21 00:54
DaemonFCmy psychiatrist asked if I had any religious beliefs, he got an essay that left him pretty speechlessAug 21 00:55
DaemonFCI told him I believe every religious person is delusional, yet I'm the one taking pillsAug 21 00:56
DaemonFCso I can cope with themAug 21 00:56
_Goblin" I told him I believe every religious person is delusional" - Please prove that. Prove there is no God.....after that I'll agree they are delusional.  To draw conclusion either way without conclusion proof is, imo delusional.Aug 21 01:00
_Goblin*conclusiveAug 21 01:01
DaemonFCprove there aren't leprechauns  Aug 21 01:01
DaemonFCconclusivelyAug 21 01:01
DaemonFCuntil then you can't say I'm crazy for believing in themAug 21 01:02
DaemonFC:)Aug 21 01:02
_Goblinwell you can't....and the point is to totally dismiss anything where there isn't conclusive proof is rather silly.....Aug 21 01:02
DaemonFCthe burden of proof is on the person making a claim. you claim God exists. prove itAug 21 01:02
_Goblinand you claim he doesnt.Aug 21 01:03
_Goblin(which you did first)Aug 21 01:03
_GoblinI mentioned nothing about my beliefs....Aug 21 01:03
schestowitz[00:56] <DaemonFC> I told him I believe every religious person is delusional, yet I'm the one taking pillsAug 21 01:03
_Goblinyou are jumping the gun and making guesses as to what you think I believe.Aug 21 01:03
schestowitzThat's not a contradictionAug 21 01:03
schestowitzSome people talk to themselves.. out of itAug 21 01:03
DaemonFCsome people masturbate in public and talk to buildingsAug 21 01:04
_GoblinI think I'd get more sense talking to myself rather than DaemonFC and his views.Aug 21 01:04
DaemonFCif they claim God told them to, do they still get arrested?Aug 21 01:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: I know people who talk to themselvesAug 21 01:04
_Goblinirrelevant....Aug 21 01:04
schestowitzBut they have ways of making it seem acceptableAug 21 01:04
_GoblinI am not talking points of law, Im talking your statements.Aug 21 01:04
schestowitz"I was just singing/praying/rehearing a speech"Aug 21 01:05
DaemonFCthere's nothing wrong with talking to yourselfAug 21 01:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana yep, Linus confused kernel and operating system back thenAug 21 01:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana 'cept there's no such thing as “Linux the larger system”. it's GNU the larger system with the kernel Linux underneathAug 21 01:05
schestowitzDaemonFC: in out society it's against the rulesAug 21 01:06
schestowitzIf you're a dog , you canAug 21 01:06
DaemonFCif you're talking to voices in your head that have a separate personality, you have a problemAug 21 01:06
schestowitzThey call it barkingAug 21 01:06
schestowitzAnd it done in excess, they call you "bad dawg"Aug 21 01:06
schestowitzbut in some circles, if peoiple don't bark enough, it's "bad gawd"Aug 21 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana also, referring to GNU as “set of tools” is typical smearing to diminish the relevance of GNU as a set of OS componentsAug 21 01:07
schestowitzhow did we come to this subject anyway?Aug 21 01:07
DaemonFCI was making fun of the word "values"Aug 21 01:07
schestowitzOh I see now: [00:52] <DaemonFC> no wonder so many people resort to praying, which is just wishing is were (or wasn't) soAug 21 01:07
DaemonFCyou see that word misused a lotAug 21 01:08
schestowitzvalues are importantAug 21 01:08
schestowitzfor instanceAug 21 01:08
schestowitzWe set the value of the Speed of LightAug 21 01:08
schestowitzit's immutable in the universeAug 21 01:08
schestowitzAnd we can measure it in many ways and arrive at the samem figureAug 21 01:08
schestowitzJust like PiAug 21 01:08
DaemonFCthe speed of light can be affected by gravity Aug 21 01:08
schestowitzcan it? O do you mean black hole sucking in light?Aug 21 01:09
DaemonFCsuch as that, yeahAug 21 01:09
schestowitzso it doesn't changeAug 21 01:09
schestowitzthe photos just have other forces pushing against the fluxAug 21 01:09
schestowitz*photonsAug 21 01:09
schestowitzbut we don't know where the photons end upAug 21 01:10
schestowitzMaybe wormholeAug 21 01:10
schestowitzThey suck up light better than Dawn can do the buildingAug 21 01:11
DaemonFCDawn is smoking more sausage than Hickory FarmsAug 21 01:12
DaemonFC:)Aug 21 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana though SunOS was the name of the kernel, and Solaris was the name of the operating system ;-)Aug 21 01:12
twitterthe next couple of weeks should be interesting because some of Microsoft's silly patent claims against Motorola go to trial on MondayAug 21 01:13
twitterhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-20094729-75/microsofts-android-patent-claims-get-tested-monday/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20Aug 21 01:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft's Android patent claims get tested Monday | Microsoft - CNET News .::. Size~: 68.94 KBAug 21 01:13
twitterah ha, http://mrpogson.com/2011/08/20/vacuum-after-the-explosion-at-hp/Aug 21 01:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vacuum After the Explosion at HP at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 41.34 KBAug 21 01:15
twitter-> " When you look at the reasons why the PC business has such tight margins, of the order of 6% ($9.592billion revenue, $567million earnings), M$ is huge. Of the 15million PCs HP shipped in Q2, M$ got about $50 each, $750million total. Why does the guy who just gives permission to make a copy of software rake in more than the guy who designs, builds, sells and ships the PC? With FLOSS, HP would be making $1300million in earnings, 13.5%, Aug 21 01:20
twitterThere's a little more to it than that.  The revenue is what the market will bear for Windows PCs, which are considerably less dependable and functional than free software PCs.  Aug 21 01:22
SnitIt seems that many of the Linux folks think all patents are wrong.  Is that true... or are there patents you think are meaningful?Aug 21 01:23
SnitIf Company X makes a product - should others be able to freely copy it as much as they want, up to but perhaps not including Company X's name and logo?Aug 21 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana BSDs used far less core GNU components, they had their own. GNU+Linux OTOH started as entire GNU system - HURD + LinuxAug 21 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana s/GNU utilities/GNU system/ ;-)Aug 21 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana where I come from (Cygnus, a Red Hat company), tools refers to the development toolchain: GCC, binutils, GDB, and that's itAug 21 01:28
DaemonFCWindows results in low quality PCs, because the hardware is the only place the OEM has to skimp Aug 21 01:30
SnitThe hardware is the only way they can differentiate themselves... or at least the primaryAug 21 01:31
SnitStill, there is a huge race to the bottom.  What is the cheapest... that is the big dealAug 21 01:31
SnitAnd users do not really get what makes a quality device.  Why is one power supply better than another... well, they both do the job.Aug 21 01:32
SnitApple tends to get it... hence the reason their computers tend to be *much* more quiet, have better styling, have things such as glass covers on the monitors, etc.  Though sometimes they let looks get in the way of functionality - would it really be so bad to have some USB ports people can *easily* reach?Aug 21 01:33
SnitWell, other than the one free one on the keyboard - assuming you use a wired keyboard.Aug 21 01:33
DaemonFChttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-cdspaceAug 21 01:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free media space for extra Oneiric software : Blueprints : Ubuntu .::. Size~: 34.28 KBAug 21 01:39
DaemonFCI suppose ditch mono is not on the tableAug 21 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana heh. come to think of it, the tools team within Red Hat works on the same GNU tools, but other GNU utils are core OS componentsAug 21 01:40
DaemonFC"[raof] Drop/move classic drivers which duplicate gallium drivers (r300/r600, ~1MB): DONE"Aug 21 01:41
DaemonFCthere's one thing that makes senseAug 21 01:41
DaemonFCwhy the hell were they shipping the classic drivers anyway?Aug 21 01:41
DaemonFCthose should have been removed before Natty was releasedAug 21 01:42
DaemonFCthey removed the hyper-v driversAug 21 01:42
DaemonFCand put them into another packageAug 21 01:42
DaemonFClolAug 21 01:42
DaemonFCthey're going after a bunch of little things that only gets them a mb here or thereAug 21 01:44
DaemonFCand ignoring that Mono is fucking hugeAug 21 01:44
DaemonFCand not necessaryAug 21 01:44
DaemonFCGNOME 3.2 makes the library for control center applets privateAug 21 01:47
DaemonFCniceAug 21 01:47
DaemonFC:PAug 21 01:47
DaemonFCthey should probably just drop GNOME's control center and make one from scratchAug 21 01:48
DaemonFCshipping GNOME's is embarrassingly bad Aug 21 01:48
schestowitzDaemonFC: and gnaughtyAug 21 01:58
schestowitzIt's not big on its ownAug 21 01:58
schestowitzBut if they remove a few junk appsAug 21 01:58
schestowitzThen they can nuke mono-commonAug 21 01:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @MaryKostakidis: Australian media starting to set the record straight on http://t.co/93yhrSh & http://t.co/JSuckNCAug 21 02:05
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tessierIs Mono going away or is it still hanging in there?Aug 21 02:28
DaemonFCXamarin has made a couple minor releases to the 2.10 seriesAug 21 02:33
DaemonFCother than that, Banshee has been deadishAug 21 02:33
DaemonFCand Pinta hasn't had a release since AprilAug 21 02:34
DaemonFCand their website isn't workingAug 21 02:34
DaemonFChttp://pinta-project.com/Aug 21 02:34
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DaemonFCI don't think that doubling down on Mono was a bright ideaAug 21 02:35
DaemonFCfor Ubuntu I meanAug 21 02:35
DaemonFCthey should have gotten rid of it and worked on RhythmboxAug 21 02:35
DaemonFCat least Rhythmbox will probably still be around after Mono dies downAug 21 02:36
DaemonFC"Some six, eight, 10 years ago, the world was dominated by Windows and anything Microsoft said, that's really what went. Now we live in this beautiful heterogeneous world. We're going to help Microsoft bring the .NET love to other platforms!"Aug 21 02:40
DaemonFC-Miguel Aug 21 02:40
twitterdid he really say that?Aug 21 02:42
DaemonFChttp://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/application-development/2011/08/11/mono-a-cure-for-microsoft-monotheism-40093649/Aug 21 02:42
DaemonFCyesAug 21 02:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mono: A cure for Microsoft monotheism | Application Development | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 59.49 KBAug 21 02:42
twitternutsAug 21 02:42
twitterhttp://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2011/08/17/politicians-eating-corn-dogs-and-other-foods-on-a-stick.htmlAug 21 02:43
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twitterwarning, pictures of old people eating horrid food are unattractive Aug 21 02:43
twittera cure for fast food, bring downer cows to the vegan placeAug 21 02:44
twitterthat's sort of what Miguel did with mono, brought ground up body parts to the free software partyAug 21 02:45
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twitterhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/15/us-internet-xxx-idUSTRE77E5W920110815Aug 21 02:47
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twitterEighty percent of registrants so far have been from outside the pornography industryAug 21 02:48
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6cL8KrIx18&feature=relatedAug 21 03:03
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amarsh04post from #grub - [2011-08-21 09:14] <phcoder> first successful GRUB boot on LDMAug 21 03:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 They often speak in mandarin?Aug 21 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] live from coscup in taipeh in the suse boothAug 21 06:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] nice to see Firefox 6 on my Fedora 15 box. #fbAug 21 06:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Lay's Cool & Refreshing... Lime Flavor < eeeeeewwww :-( why don't they have plain paprika taste ?! !OnlyInChinaAug 21 06:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] aaron is crazyAug 21 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yay! ur1.ca is baaaaack!Aug 21 06:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New !InconstantrMoon chapter 86 posted http://ur1.ca/4xzky !SelfPub .... to start at the beginning here's http://ur1.ca/4auw1 Chapter 1Aug 21 06:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RT @rms Technological Addiction http://ur1.ca/4xwslAug 21 06:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] About the !Beijing startup scene: "Startups in China, Why There Aren't Many Innovators" http://is.gd/xKLdk1 /via @NthCodeAug 21 06:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] are the English fond of mint flavour? eeewww... it is even in the liquoriceAug 21 07:04
twitterlol on the technological addiction.  When people talk about "internet addiction" they should be specific because people do all sorts of things on the internet.  Aug 21 07:17
Diablo-D3hehAug 21 07:18
Diablo-D3yeah like my mom bitches I use the computer too muchAug 21 07:18
Diablo-D3yetAug 21 07:18
Diablo-D3its because my computer does everythingAug 21 07:18
twitterRMS, in another of his notes, says that a study showing shortened lifespans due to TV concerns him because he spends 10 hours a day in front of his computer, but I'll bet he's not playing farmvilleAug 21 07:19
Diablo-D3hehAug 21 07:19
Diablo-D3deends how you define "infront of TV"Aug 21 07:20
twittersaying someone is addicted to the internet is sort of like saying they are addicted to business, talking, mail, news, phone calls, TV and so on and so forth all at once.Aug 21 07:20
Diablo-D3people who play action games constantly get a pretty good workout.Aug 21 07:20
twitterdepends on the controller, sitting on your but is bad for you.Aug 21 07:20
Diablo-D3there is no actual scientific evidence of thatAug 21 07:21
twitterRMS sits in front of his computer because he thinks his work is important.Aug 21 07:21
Diablo-D3and no, it doesnt depend on the controllerAug 21 07:21
Diablo-D3I use a keyboard and mouse, and I burn calories like mad.Aug 21 07:22
twitterthere's plenty of evidence linking vascular disease to inactivity.  combine that with junk food and you get USAug 21 07:22
Diablo-D3yup, you're trolling.Aug 21 07:22
Diablo-D3problem solved.Aug 21 07:22
schestowitzheheAug 21 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ""HP is the OEM which ships the most x86 PCs. They are considering getting out of the PC market." http://ur1.ca/4xzub bad for #WindowsAug 21 08:10
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/WWWLOBBY4POORUS/status/105013291448938497Aug 21 08:13
TechrightsBot-tr@WWWLOBBY4POORUS: @schestowitz~BILL GATES CALLED FROM INDIA & PROMISED 2 HAVE HIS U.S. CONGRESSIONAL EDUCATION LOBBYISTS ENLIGHTEN TX GOV RICK PERRY ON DNA !Aug 21 08:13
schestowitzwhat's with the ALL CAPS? https://twitter.com/WWWLOBBY4POORUS/status/105013992203882496 https://twitter.com/WWWLOBBY4POORUS/status/105014790178619392 https://twitter.com/WWWLOBBY4POORUS/status/105015413598978048Aug 21 08:13
TechrightsBot-tr@WWWLOBBY4POORUS: @WWWLOBBY4POORUS @schestowitz~PAT ROBERTSON OF 700 CLUB ATTEMPTED 2 CONVINCE GOVERNOR PERRY THAT DNA DOES NOT MEAN DEATH NEEDS ASSISTANCE !Aug 21 08:13
TechrightsBot-tr@WWWLOBBY4POORUS: @WWWLOBBY4POORUS @schestowitz~LUCKILY OHIO GOV JOHN KASICH HAS BEEN PRAYING OVER RICK PERRY 2 DELIVER HIM FROM THIS DEMON OF EXECUTION !Aug 21 08:13
TechrightsBot-tr@WWWLOBBY4POORUS: @WWWLOBBY4POORUS @schestowitz~AMERICA,LET'S ALL PRAY 4 GOVERNOR RICK PERRY~LET'S PRAY HE PUTS THE COUNTRY AHEAD OF HANK SKINNERS EXECUTION~Aug 21 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mad cat [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/5oQjU.jpgAug 21 08:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks has now published over 20,000 cables http://t.co/XccIMJsAug 21 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Domschiet-Berg forever destroys over 3000 pending WikiLeaks publications. A grave loss to the world. http://t.co/D0k6mqXAug 21 08:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Installing Linux on old PC’s Part 2 http://ur1.ca/4y004 reusing fine old PCsAug 21 08:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ARM'ing Linux http://ur1.ca/4y00d #ARM Opportunities for #LinuxAug 21 08:20
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twitterSome old people like caps, they think it is easier to read.Aug 21 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Students! Don't get scammed for back to school computer shopping. http://ur1.ca/4y010 http://ur1.ca/4xws7 use #linux on older onesAug 21 08:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Past Tense: Don’t Be a Sucker, 1947 http://ur1.ca/4y01h #early civil rights movement :)Aug 21 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Students! Don't get scammed for back to school computer shopping. http://ur1.ca/4y010 http://ur1.ca/4xws7 use #linux on ...Aug 21 08:30
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schestowitztwitter: it doesAug 21 08:32
schestowitzBut it's reserved to emphasis/shoutingAug 21 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @speeddefrost Why the hell do all web browsers install silent updates? Stop this shit. Now.Aug 21 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] nome shell starting to become my favourite http://ur1.ca/4y01s #gnome3Aug 21 08:32
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schestowitzBlech http://www.berkeleylug.com/?p=769Aug 21 08:33
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schestowitzParroting NetAppsAug 21 08:33
schestowitzI can't link to this, it's also poorly writtenAug 21 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Say it ain't so, Joe: "What's Wrong With Sex?" http://ur1.ca/4y035 !SelfPubAug 21 08:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @holger_stark ...cache of unreleased !Wikileaks docs seems gone 4ever. #DDB said...he has destroyed it. New #SPIEGEL #openleaks #cccAug 21 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] you're full of beans today @weeguy :DAug 21 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleepy time... Good night !IdentiverseAug 21 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A #Xubuntu Fanboi Looks at #Salix OS http://ur1.ca/4y0ey "I may have little reason to fall back on Xubuntu."Aug 21 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An Open-Source Mobile Linux Graphics Stack? http://ur1.ca/4y0f3 "The mobile device landscape, particularly for those devices running Linux"Aug 21 09:19
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amarsh04that comment about television watching shortening one's lifespan made me think about how I use my pc - I'm often standing and also dash off to do other things far more often than what a television watcher would doAug 21 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] See the latest good stuff from !kde http://ur1.ca/4y0h1 (Plasma Active on OpenGL ES) and also http://ur1.ca/4y0h3Aug 21 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Denmark knows moving to Free Software helps efficiency 25,000 Danish Hospital Staff Moving To LibreOffice - Slashdot - http://ur1.ca/4y0hiAug 21 09:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] bizarre famous last words "my compliments to the executioner" #humourAug 21 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @reality http://www.reddit.com/tb/jpcsqAug 21 09:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wood5y/status/105192510074261504Aug 21 09:57
TechrightsBot-tr@wood5y: interesting review - a hardcore #Xubuntu user looks at #Slackware-based #Salix OS http://t.co/xV4S7eH (via @schestowitz)Aug 21 09:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Anti-Linux Trolls Classified http://ur1.ca/4y0j8 #linux #fudAug 21 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Departures and Firings of Bill Gates Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/4y0l9 #billgates #gsk #education #lobbyingAug 21 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Departures and Firings of Bill Gates Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/4y0l9 #plutocracy #influence #seattle #tachi #GoodloeJohnsonAug 21 10:22
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MinceRyou can't prove i'm crazy for believing in the Celestial TeapotAug 21 10:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Open Bugs Day at OpenSUSE, But Biggest Bugs Are Overlooked http://ur1.ca/4y0p0 #opensuse #suse #novell #yast #sax3 #webyastAug 21 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Bugs Day at OpenSUSE, But Biggest Bugs Are Overlooked http://ur1.ca/4y0p0 #swpats #attachmate #microsoft #gnu #linuxAug 21 10:47
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schestowitzhttp://stuffmideast.com/2011/08/18/117234/happy-birthday-linux-heres-your-greatest-hits/Aug 21 10:54
schestowitz"Asus’ Eee PC range of tiny laptops, running on the Xandros distribution of Linux, kickstarted the netbook trend back in 2007. Okay, later models had the option to run Windows but plenty of netbook users stayed with the alternative OS."Aug 21 10:54
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schestowitzWatch out for revisionism re sub-notebooksAug 21 10:54
schestowitzhttp://liliputing.com/2011/08/asus-the-eee-pc-x101-is-a-netbook-aimed-at-the-tablet-market.htmlAug 21 10:55
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schestowitz"But the Xandros software that came on the first netbook was a little too simple and didn’t allow users to install third party apps very easily without learning a little more about Linux than they may have been comfortable with."Aug 21 10:55
schestowitzThe story I remember is, Microsoft pressured OEMsAug 21 10:55
schestowitzIt wasn't use complaintsAug 21 10:55
schestowitzBut now the time is right for revisionismAug 21 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who would be dumb enough to buy #xandros in 2011? http://ur1.ca/4y0q4Aug 21 10:59
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schestowitz"This man appears to think that there is no electricity in Ghana. Can he find it on a map? Does he know Africa is not a country?"Aug 21 11:33
schestowitzLobbying for PR gainAug 21 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !GNU #IceCat 6.0 released http://ur1.ca/4y0vkAug 21 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @zoobab: "crappy patent written by an idiot they picked to do it - then I realized the idiot in question was me :-)" http://t.co/Ih9DubkAug 21 11:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] New browser bundles with FF6. Users are strongly encouraged to upgrade: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/new-tor-browser-bundles-firefox-6Aug 21 12:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Domscheit-Berg claims to have irrevocably destroyed 3500+ leaks from whistleblowers | Spiegel http://t.co/kHZev02Aug 21 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] carrefour store has 100s of employees and still they can't help you; 'not my dept.'. you would wish efficiency, esp. if salary rises! #chinaAug 21 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon There is no way eminem is the king of hiphop.Aug 21 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon Laoban Soundsystem event went well! Gearing up for Sharism Presents Beijing this coming Thursday, and lots of working and twer ...Aug 21 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We can confirm that the DDB claimed destroyed data included a copy of the entire US no-fly list.Aug 21 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We can confirm that the DDB claimed destroyed data included five gigabytes from the Bank of America.Aug 21 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] enjoying a good Portugese wineAug 21 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We can confirm that the DDB claimed destroyed whistleblower data included the internals of around 20 neo-Nazi organizationsAug 21 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We can confirm that the DDB claimed destroyed data included US intercept arrangements for over a hundred internet companiesAug 21 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Want to donate five bucks to help #WikiLeaks but don't know how? Do it here http://t.co/keJ07BGAug 21 13:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] We can confirm that the claimed DDB destroyed data included more than 60,000 emails from the NPDAug 21 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks on Turkey: US had 20/20 tunnel vision http://t.co/Wq3P2NAAug 21 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @baptistredbloom I'm in a gaming mood now. Downloading Artrinik http://www.atrinik.org/ It's a #free #linux #gamesAug 21 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @laurelrusswurm @gomerx my final push to take the plunge out of windows into #freesoftware was #windows removing the choice to upgradeAug 21 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Users who actually know about “Open Source” are now regularly enticed to give up software freedom for shiny things. !q @bkuhn ur1.ca/4uqmgAug 21 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Recovered data off a failed HDD. Put it on external drive. Returned both. Now I was asked to recover the same data again. Recursive-Fail.Aug 21 14:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be handy if there was a new spin of #Crunchbang with the welcome script including #LibreOffice & #Firefox / #ThunderbirdAug 21 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] having a #ipod dock connector is a feature? It is a statement to admit it lacks proper #Bluetooth! #incar #radioAug 21 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Lula and Ahmadinejad’s Delicate Dance http://t.co/4sclQ7I #Brazil #IranAug 21 15:03
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schestowitzChanServ: Very interesting videoAug 21 15:05
schestowitzwhy do you insist in saying lai-nox?Aug 21 15:05
schestowitzI meant cubezzzAug 21 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How to deal with police brutality (video) http://t.co/MKLlG1oAug 21 15:15
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schestowitzTim says it like thisAug 21 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Misconception: The Problem With the US Patent System is Just Patent Trolls and/or Just Software Patents http://ur1.ca/4y1p0 #swpats #appleAug 21 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Misconception: The Problem With the US Patent System is Just Patent Trolls and/or Just Software Patents http://ur1.ca/4y1p0 uspto #reformAug 21 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @agencia_publica: Amorim: a pedra no meio do caminho dos EUA http://t.co/hYHNewdAug 21 15:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does Anyone Still Use Xandros? http://ur1.ca/4y1re #xandros !debianAug 21 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Does Anyone Still Use Xandros? http://ur1.ca/4y1re #debian #gnu #linux #microsoft #swpats #linspire #linuxtax #scalixAug 21 16:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @johnregehr Fresh Windows 7 install on Sarah's new machine is frequently unresponsive for minutes at a time. Verdict: Thumbs down.Aug 21 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange in conversation with John Pilger (full hour video released) http://t.co/koQF8D5Aug 21 16:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Sometimes, you don't want to start vigorous exercise, but when you've finished, you feel so much better. What was evolution thinking there?Aug 21 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The price of sugar, an essential commodity in !Kenya has gone up 70% just last week #hyperinflationAug 21 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Is it @fabsh's birthday? Happy birthday!Aug 21 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange in conversation with John Pilger (full hour video released) http://t.co/koQF8D5Aug 21 16:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Middlemen and brokers are called commodity investors in Kenya.Aug 21 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @beffroilille twing twing twing twing twingAug 21 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Meant in the west.Aug 21 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Busy week. Missing my identica folks.Aug 21 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Kenswitch ATMs are rather plenty.Aug 21 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Buy expensive things and die poor"Aug 21 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] That sugar is an essential commodity in Kenya tells you a lot about Kenyans.Aug 21 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Must save 23 shillings daily.Aug 21 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Bill Gates Buys More Blogs and Papers, Creates Puppet Group “Teaching First” to Lobby the Press http://ur1.ca/4y1tv #education #school #usAug 21 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates Buys More Blogs and Papers, Creates Puppet Group “Teaching First” to Lobby the Press http://ur1.ca/4y1tv #Crosscut #TeachingFirstAug 21 16:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Eating bananas should sort out all your sugar needs. Back to a banana and tea folks. #tomandmary #kenyaAug 21 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] That Tom and Mary shite never gets old.Aug 21 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] 6.25%. K.Aug 21 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] What's month on month inflation in !Kenya now? Cc @bankelele @alykhansatchuAug 21 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] QR codes for contacts cool!Aug 21 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Roughly 1% of the !Kenyan population own a Huawei Ideos [U8150] !Android smartphone.Aug 21 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chair of Gates Foundation’s Global Development Program Advisory Panel an Alleged Insider Trader http://ur1.ca/4y1ve #billgatesAug 21 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] OK where's all the noise bout G+ gone?Aug 21 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Chair of Gates Foundation’s Global Development Program Advisory Panel an Alleged Insider Trader http://ur1.ca/4y1ve #tax #fraudAug 21 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] If I had mad cheese I would buy all of the year's remaining output of sugar, hike up prices like craaaazy! !kenyaAug 21 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @mo6020 http://is.gd/zEkaSc - Seems like a bargain, and I'll relish purging the MacOS from it with fire and BSD.Aug 21 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The G+ take over is turning out to be like em crop circles.Aug 21 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] CyanogenMod will continue as always; the !Android community can relax • by Cory Gunther http://ping.fm/vw2i8Aug 21 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Transformers is not "vigeugeu" in English.Aug 21 16:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @bkuhn I finally blogged about #Desktop_Summit, including my summary of the ©AA/ #CLA panel w/ @sabdfl & #mmeeks: http://ur1.ca/4y1 ...Aug 21 16:48
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81272772Aug 21 16:49
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Sunday, 21-Aug-11 15:36:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It's a shame Gates' projects are always so biased, because in all honesty, they do some good and a lot of bad :(Aug 21 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #GatesFoundation is Lobbying for Monsanto Shareholders (Including BIll Gates) http://ur1.ca/4y1x7 #monopoly #monsanto #gmoAug 21 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gates Foundation is Lobbying for Monsanto Shareholders (Including BIll Gates) http://ur1.ca/4y1x7 #promotion #imperialism /cc @gmowatchAug 21 16:50
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schestowitzThe good is usually part of the PR budget, which is relatively small.Aug 21 16:50
twittergood or bad, the question is if the spending is just a self serving investmentAug 21 16:51
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twitterit's worse when the investment is in something like oil in Nigeria, the Gulf, etc.Aug 21 16:52
twittercoal burningAug 21 16:52
twitterWorld wealth is so concentrated, we essentially live in a centralized, planned economy like the USSR.Aug 21 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] A Deposit Taking Microfinance can be licensed to operate only in a particular division.Aug 21 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Local Loop Operator dreams.Aug 21 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @schestowitz Gates Foundation is Lobbying for Monsanto Shareholders (Including BIll Gates) http://ur1.ca/4y1x7 #promotion #imperialis ...Aug 21 16:53
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twitterThose who have wealth could make better choices than oil and coal.Aug 21 16:53
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amarsh04yes twitter, that was posted here a few days agoAug 21 16:53
twitterThey might also do something better than what insurance companies and banks do.Aug 21 16:54
amarsh04Lloyds of London destroyed themselves by concentrating their risks rather than dispersing themAug 21 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] After sugar, what next? #hoarding #hyperinflation !KenyaAug 21 16:55
twitterbut what we see is that they prefer to make as much money as they can no matter how many of the rest of us live in squalor, do without leisure and die young.Aug 21 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah In a couple of years there will be a lot of cheap used Huawei Ideos smartphones. Possible uses?Aug 21 16:56
abeNd-orgwireless webcamsAug 21 16:57
amarsh04also you see it nonsense like redundant optical fibre paths that end up using the same physical conduitsAug 21 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] You pay for exemptions?Aug 21 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Several papers short of a charter. Cool.Aug 21 16:58
amarsh04s/it/it in/Aug 21 16:58
twitteryes, there's a lot of safety short cuts encouraged by cheapness and cover ups after the factAug 21 16:58
twitterthe Daily Mail had a story about people roasted in a bread oven because it was too expensive to wait till the oven had cooled down or to take the side panels off.  The story is more believable than the Daily Mail.Aug 21 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Will only do the four papers. Cool.Aug 21 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Possibilities are endless. GPS trackers for vehicles. 3G modems. Media players. smart FM radios. GPS loggers. et. ceteraAug 21 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The so-called professional courses are bullshit in !Kenya.Aug 21 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] For the record I hold a degree in Business and Management- Management Science.Aug 21 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Yea. Really interested in the GPS end of things.Aug 21 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Considering a second degree in Law this time.Aug 21 17:01
twitterOf course, the biggest give away that rich idiots rule the world is the prevalence of Microsoft Windows, spyware owned by the richest man in the world and universally hated by everyone who uses it but especially by people who know anything about computers.Aug 21 17:01
amarsh04ouch... when I worked at a foundry, safety was important to the level that anyone on site could get anything considered risky halted on safety groundsAug 21 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Will purchase a couple for GPS tracking.Aug 21 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also currently enrolled for a Diploma in IT.Aug 21 17:03
twitterWould you want to work on an oil rig where the drilling control and safety systems routinely had blue screens of death?Aug 21 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] I know so many CPAs.Aug 21 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates Under Fire for Hijacking the Voice of the Poor http://ur1.ca/4y1zx he's not alone in using these tacticsAug 21 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @jospoortvliet Cool to see MeeGo and GENIVI bring OBS to the automotive industry http://bit.ly/qPmou2 #linux #openSUSEAug 21 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Bill Gates Under Fire for Hijacking the Voice of the Poor http://ur1.ca/4y1zx #billgates #gatesfoundation #pr #journalismAug 21 17:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/silner/status/105306350921322496Aug 21 17:05
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TechrightsBot-tr@silner: @schestowitz OH yeah, but I keep thinking, that educational work does need doing, just not with that agenda, such a shameAug 21 17:05
twitterAll the other safety stuff is a farce when that's hapening.Aug 21 17:05
schestowitzDaily Mail is Murdoch's propaganda machine in the UKAug 21 17:05
schestowitzDailyFailAug 21 17:06
twitterI can believe that.Aug 21 17:06
schestowitzright winger use this paperAug 21 17:06
schestowitz*wingersAug 21 17:06
twitterIt looks about as trust worthy as the Weekly World News.Aug 21 17:06
twitterI wonder if Murdoch owns that too.Aug 21 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] A couple of years back a seat on the NSE would have cost you a fortune or two.Aug 21 17:06
amarsh04I recently read a book by a chemical engineer called "Why Accidents Happen" - I'm about to send a nasty email to the publisher over not responding to my report of a typographical error in the book.Aug 21 17:07
twitterDaily Mail shows up a lot in the Daily Rotten News.Aug 21 17:07
twitterI saw someone saying that "education needs work"Aug 21 17:08
twitterlolAug 21 17:08
schestowitzEducauon is preparation for workAug 21 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Be all you can be.Aug 21 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also, this is bullshit.Aug 21 17:08
schestowitzBasic skills and indoctrinatonAug 21 17:08
schestowitzLove for one's governmentAug 21 17:08
twittereducation needs money and a reduction of "zero tolerance" bullshitAug 21 17:08
schestowitzWillingness to accept hat money is everythingAug 21 17:08
amarsh04it's a very good book... things like the Piper Alpha north sea oil platform disaster and many others up until events like the Longford refinery fire which left a city of 3 million without gas suppliesAug 21 17:08
schestowitzAnd higher education is specialised training at the expense of the person rather than the prospective employerAug 21 17:09
twitterall true but it does not need to be that wayAug 21 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Project started to port !Android to the $99 HP TouchPad • by Jerry Hildenbrand http://ping.fm/mPu9RAug 21 17:10
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schestowitzLOL http://i.imgur.com/QQsDE.gifAug 21 17:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @silner: Project started to port !Android to the $99 HP TouchPad • by Jerry Hildenbrand http://ping.fm/mPu9RAug 21 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's upside-down, kitty [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/vHbnD.gifAug 21 17:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Enterprise apps for Micro-enterprises.Aug 21 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah RD: @silner: Project started to port !Android to the $99 HP TouchPad • by Jerry Hildenbrand http://ping.fm/mPu9RAug 21 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah $99? HP owe me a refund.Aug 21 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] My one unfortunate flirtation with tablets ends disastrously. #hp #webosAug 21 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why I won't be using gnome shell or gnome 3 http://ur1.ca/4y216 #gnome is having a #kde4 moment. #gnome3 #gnu #linuxAug 21 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Did they open source webOS or just kill it? #hpAug 21 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Seven Free LibreOffice Extensions You Should Know About http://ur1.ca/4y218 #libreoffice #odfAug 21 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Pole kuhusu #HP touchpad, once bitten, twice shyAug 21 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 10 Reasons !GIMP is Better Than Photoshop via @linuxartist http://ping.fm/jnN18Aug 21 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For A Superior Music Player Try #Amarok http://ur1.ca/4y21e Try #minirok for one which takes little RAMAug 21 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] But not if I they manage to port Android to the tab.Aug 21 17:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Yea. Shoulda seen it coming. Waste of 2 perfectly good netbook purchasing opportunities.Aug 21 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Bought a tablet for $499, a month later HP reduce price to $99. Shut!Aug 21 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Watch these: http://tinyurl.com/toc-prez-forum-1 and http://tinyurl.com/toc-prez-forum-2 #sgpolitics #fbAug 21 17:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Crossword Puzzle of Some Linux Distros... http://ur1.ca/4y22p quite nicely doneAug 21 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Yeah, The number of times I went WTF? in my head concerning your tablet....Aug 21 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !fos !telecomix !anonops | 1 million blogs blocked because 2 are "illegal" - Way to go, Argentina http://goo.gl/xwmwAAug 21 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple cult site already spreads Ballmer-esque FUD http://ur1.ca/4y238 #Apple afraid of #LinuxAug 21 17:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FusionGarage Makes #Linux Tablets http://ur1.ca/4y23s #crunchpad #joojoo #androidAug 21 17:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ah, windowsNavigator shell extension to #GNOME 3 highly recommendedAug 21 17:38
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81276110Aug 21 17:40
TechrightsBot-tr@silner (silner)'s status on Sunday, 21-Aug-11 16:32:08 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I still think Apple is worse than Microsoft, only lack of power prevented them being even more destructiveAug 21 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 Lobbyists per Member of Congress Fighting Effective Finance Regulations http://ur1.ca/4y254 #corruption #theft #bankingAug 21 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/8/2011: Fusion Garage Makes Android Tablets, GNU IceCat 6.0 is Released http://ur1.ca/4y26k !techrightsAug 21 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 21/8/2011: Fusion Garage Makes Android Tablets, GNU IceCat 6.0 is Released http://ur1.ca/4y26k #techrightsAug 21 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Announce: LightMediaScanner 0.4.4 released http://t.co/NAWfQ5K #maemoAug 21 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Devel: Backport of #Qt Components to #N900's #Fremantle http://t.co/7PyE6Zh #maemoAug 21 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @JayMontano: Updated: 4squick demoed on Nokia N8 and Nokia n950 http://t.co/F3AO2vIAug 21 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Random, interesting stuff I learn from the internet. Kenyan "kachumbari" is actualy a #salsa sauce /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglisAug 21 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_MeeGo: Perth Trains - an N9 / N950 app providing train schedules for Perth, Australia: http://t.co/jvbiWujAug 21 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @SlipKoRnSaad: [Maemo Briefs] [#MeeGo #Harmattan] MeePasswords - Keep your passwords protected ! http://t.co/f71DsLA #freewaresAug 21 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @SlipKoRnSaad: [Maemo Briefs] [MeeGo Harmattan] EasyList : Easy to use shopping/todo list application ! http://t.co/nIZbRBSAug 21 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] OK, back to using #KDE for a whileAug 21 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @gamerchick02 ♺ @encyclomundi: ♲ @sandersch RT @schestowitz Seven Free LibreOffice Extensions You Should Know About http://t.co/4StJ7 ...Aug 21 18:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] FInally, modded my NookColor. Looking forward to a very useful device. Putting $10 into the CyanogenMod kitty. #fbAug 21 18:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] for the love of Crom, I need some caffeineAug 21 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] Linux Action Show is a gooOOOOOOOooooo! http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/1030/jblive/ their live show is pretty swish.Aug 21 18:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How Apple locks its rivals out of the tablet market with exclusive sourcing deals • by Matthew Panzarino http://ping.fm/BV5QvAug 21 18:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] oh @sabdfl my friend wanted to know how much it cost you to go into space/the ISSAug 21 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110821 #sip_and_clickAug 21 18:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @pawelf: In case you missed a !vector hair tutorial:http://is.gd/mEKfdC !svgAug 21 19:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pumpkin/@pumpkin] Daniel Domscheit-Berg aurait détruit 3500 documents soumis à !Wikileaks avant septembre 2010 http://ur1.ca/4y1y4 #DeletedLeaksAug 21 19:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] "and then we bring on Aaron Seigo from the KDE project and he blows our mind with his toys from the futuuuure!" i love the linux action showAug 21 19:26
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/statuses/105320239432073217Aug 21 19:27
TechrightsBot-tr@explodingwalrus: @schestowitz it's OK, but for Gnome, Clementine replaces Amarok. I however use either Gmusicbrowser or MPD/ArioAug 21 19:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Finally, accepting some reality. @NTVKenya report acknowledges that #Kenyatta screwed us over. !Kenya #independence #landAug 21 19:30
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MrF_Hey ROyAug 21 19:35
schestowitzHEYAug 21 19:36
MrF_Whats happeninAug 21 19:37
schestowitznothing, and you?Aug 21 19:37
schestowitzIt's quiet on SundaysAug 21 19:37
MrF_i guess you got your broadband backAug 21 19:37
schestowitzmy graphics card on the second pc suffers from lousy intel driverAug 21 19:37
MrF_rioting in america?Aug 21 19:37
schestowitzis there..?Aug 21 19:38
MrF_lets see what this week brings in the financial marketsAug 21 19:38
cubezzzflash mobs...Aug 21 19:38
schestowitz!us censorship phone before protestAug 21 19:38
schestowitz!google us censorship phone before protestAug 21 19:38
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TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Censorship of music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_musicAug 21 19:38
MrF_things v volatileAug 21 19:38
MrF_i'll read them later please dont spam me to deathAug 21 19:39
MrF_for now we talkAug 21 19:39
schestowitzI told you <about the incident last weekAug 21 19:39
MrF_yahAug 21 19:39
schestowitz http://ur1.ca/4y254 Aug 21 19:39
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MrF_how long can the markets buy into this illusion of normality, i wonder?Aug 21 19:40
MrF_silver and gold are rising roystonAug 21 19:41
MrF_you need to trade your stockpile of tuna for precious metals:)Aug 21 19:41
schestowitzLOLAug 21 19:42
schestowitzaluminium?Aug 21 19:42
schestowitz"We accept cash, credit card, and tuna"Aug 21 19:42
MrF_saying that when it all breaks down i doubt there will be enough civility to revert to a bartering system, you';ll probably have a gun put to your head and all you own will be taken, so hoarding precious metals may be futileAug 21 19:43
schestowitzLOLAug 21 19:44
schestowitzNot any time soon here..Aug 21 19:44
MrF_thats what you said about the riots :)Aug 21 19:44
schestowitzYou think of Mad Max apocalypseAug 21 19:44
schestowitzWhere the police and army both lose controlAug 21 19:44
MrF_and UFO's ooohhhAug 21 19:44
schestowitzIt's moe likely to happ[en in the US where I understand there are half a trillion gunsAug 21 19:44
schestowitzHehe. UFOsAug 21 19:45
cubezzzfood will become the new moneyAug 21 19:45
schestowitzTHe cranks with the guns will wait for Jesus and the aliens to come down..Aug 21 19:45
MrF_in the uk martial law may be easier to initiate, we dont bear arms, however the usa may be a different story.....butAug 21 19:45
MrF_they have the power of disinformationAug 21 19:45
MrF_locking out atm'sAug 21 19:46
MrF_declaring holy war in the name of.....whoever suits themAug 21 19:46
MrF_and ammunition controlAug 21 19:46
schestowitzrupertAug 21 19:46
schestowitzReuper 10Aug 21 19:46
MrF_rupert murdoch street, number 10Aug 21 19:46
MrF_as in downingAug 21 19:46
schestowitzDowningAug 21 19:46
schestowitzNumber 10Aug 21 19:46
schestowitzRupertAug 21 19:47
schestowitzThatcherAug 21 19:47
MrF_KFCAug 21 19:47
schestowitzyummyAug 21 19:47
schestowitzBut high cholestrolAug 21 19:47
MrF_virus'sAug 21 19:47
schestowitztypo there on cholesterolAug 21 19:47
schestowitzDid you see my posts today?Aug 21 19:48
schestowitz5 about the Gates FoundationAug 21 19:48
MrF_if you saw the first signs of anarchy and you were convinced it was all about to unfold on a big scale what would you do?Aug 21 19:48
schestowitzIt doesn't happen overnightAug 21 19:48
MrF_don't say fly home, that doesnt countAug 21 19:48
schestowitzBut you need ferry/planeAug 21 19:48
schestowitzWe can't swim the channelAug 21 19:48
MrF_the flick of the global atm switch will happen in a nano secondAug 21 19:48
schestowitzNeed directionsAug 21 19:49
MrF_would you like to go halvers on an inflatable dingy with me?Aug 21 19:49
MrF_remote islands will be the futureAug 21 19:49
schestowitzNo. LOLAug 21 19:50
MrF_it wil almost certainly come down to the law of the gunAug 21 19:50
schestowitzWe're unfit to survive in islands just like cats can't survive well in the wildAug 21 19:50
schestowitzPeople are too domesticatedAug 21 19:50
MrF_we can if we have beansAug 21 19:50
MrF_and riceAug 21 19:51
MrF_and tunaAug 21 19:51
schestowitzAnd besides, that doesn't last longAug 21 19:52
schestowitzand th ocean no longer has much fishAug 21 19:52
MrF_all this survivalist stuff sounds so exciting, i think i would hack it for about a weekAug 21 19:52
schestowitzsee what happened in Easter IslandAug 21 19:52
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schestowitzThey became headhuntersAug 21 19:52
MrF_then i would have to eat wormsAug 21 19:53
schestowitzSo islands might be as safe as that Norwegian silandAug 21 19:53
schestowitzThat's where anarchy is normAug 21 19:53
schestowitzMaybeAug 21 19:53
MrF_i think if things get bad enough, we will gladly accept whatever solution is presented to us.Aug 21 19:53
schestowitzIt's like Cast Away with Tom Hanks and his 'friend' WilsonAug 21 19:54
schestowitzThe rubber ballAug 21 19:54
MrF_is cast away a good filmAug 21 19:54
MrF_we should go camping royAug 21 19:54
schestowitzI watched it at the Filmworks 10 years agoAug 21 19:54
MrF_and experimentAug 21 19:54
MrF_maybe catch a fishAug 21 19:54
schestowitzNo, it's not rasonable yetAug 21 19:54
MrF_or dig up a turnipAug 21 19:55
schestowitzIt's a pretend of escape scenarioAug 21 19:55
schestowitzBut you're thinking too far aheadAug 21 19:55
schestowitzThe US would have a violent revolution well before any EU stateAug 21 19:55
MrF_i went camping for a night with greg and andy last year it was greatAug 21 19:55
schestowitzandy from failsworth?Aug 21 19:56
schestowitzCamping is not the same thoughAug 21 19:56
schestowitzYou're not in the position where having to hunt for food, as one would have to do is away from civilisationAug 21 19:57
MrF_not the andy you saw in the riots a different andyAug 21 19:57
schestowitzIt's just pretend freedoma nd independenceAug 21 19:57
schestowitzAs long as there's a car/bus waiting s0mewhereAug 21 19:57
MrF_and replicating the womb experienceAug 21 19:57
schestowitzsocietal wombAug 21 19:57
MrF_we all secretly want to go back to the wombAug 21 19:57
MrF_thats why grown men fart about in tentsAug 21 19:58
schestowitzI think most of today's ladies would die in such scenario without trying to surviveAug 21 19:58
schestowitzSomething about the cultureAug 21 19:58
MrF_women are nest builders by and large, two hundred years of domesticity wont change thatAug 21 19:59
schestowitzbut is it an instinctive characteristic?Aug 21 19:59
schestowitzLike caring for a child and stuff?Aug 21 19:59
MrF_yes i think so, thats why they are weak, we are strong, they are more emotionally tuned in thousands of years of evolution cant be turned around in a few hundred years of a fossil fuel economyAug 21 20:01
MrF_we will all very quickly revert back to type soon enough:)Aug 21 20:01
schestowitzNot sureAug 21 20:02
schestowitzI think depopultion will come firstAug 21 20:02
schestowitzAnd no loss of quality of lifeAug 21 20:02
schestowitzWhen fuel isn't enoughAug 21 20:02
schestowitzor not so readily avaialbleAug 21 20:02
schestowitzSo families won't get financial support from the stateAug 21 20:02
schestowitzOnly paritcular families would reproduceAug 21 20:02
schestowitzAnd with food at hyperinflation price some plutocrats will try to enforce it like in ChinaAug 21 20:03
schestowitzAnd people are already being paid to get sterilisedAug 21 20:03
schestowitzA tad distrubingAug 21 20:03
schestowitzAnd guess who's lobbying for this type of future?Aug 21 20:03
MrF_hey will they pay me to get sterilised?Aug 21 20:04
MrF_if i go to china?Aug 21 20:04
MrF_i could throw in a kidney tooAug 21 20:04
MrF_two balls and a kidney please....how much?Aug 21 20:05
MrF_but seriously no one should be allowed to trade in live body partsAug 21 20:06
MrF_it has all kinds of really bad exploitative implicationsAug 21 20:06
MrF_permanently disabling ones tooAug 21 20:06
twitterquality of life is ongoing in the US where the rich now attack teachers and other low earning professionals with some small ability to fight back -> schestowitz: And no loss of quality of lifeAug 21 20:07
schestowitz[20:05] <MrF_> two balls and a kidney please....how much?Aug 21 20:07
schestowitzSteve Jobs: I'd have 10Aug 21 20:07
twitterI like work with organ "scaffolds" which can come from any animal.Aug 21 20:08
twitterthe question then is if the tissue grown on them will not be more prone to cancer from the excess number of divisionsAug 21 20:08
schestowitzMrF_: they don't sterilise by removal of organs or any kind. It's about ensuring some certain people like drug addcits can't have kids.Aug 21 20:08
schestowitzThey create financial incentives or barriers to reproductionAug 21 20:08
schestowitzIIRC, they do it in the UK starting this year (I read about something)Aug 21 20:09
schestowitztwitter: like pigs' hearts?Aug 21 20:09
schestowitzvery similar to oursAug 21 20:09
twitterhearts, lungs, etcAug 21 20:09
MrF_there may come a time when the right to reproduction is regulated, your going into eugenics there though which is probably not niceAug 21 20:10
twitterall but connective tissue is removed, leaving a scaffold on which the recipient's cells can be grownAug 21 20:10
twitterthere have been successful experiments with rat lungs and a human has been given a new trachea Aug 21 20:11
schestowitzIf Steve Jobs received a liver from a pig, the current events would be simpler to explainAug 21 20:11
twitterthe new organs made this way do not require imuno suppression Aug 21 20:11
MrF_@twitter   so they strip us down to our sinews and grow us again?Aug 21 20:12
schestowitzyeahAug 21 20:12
schestowitzembryos tooAug 21 20:12
schestowitzbionic menAug 21 20:12
schestowitzto an extentAug 21 20:12
twitterI imagine that humans would be the best donors Aug 21 20:12
schestowitzsome parts we cannot replace like in a carAug 21 20:12
twitterbut other animals can be usedAug 21 20:12
schestowitzat least not yetAug 21 20:12
MrF_like an organic 3d printer?Aug 21 20:13
schestowitztwitter: any animal other than us...Aug 21 20:13
schestowitzYeah, cause that's "ethical"Aug 21 20:13
MrF_for now...Aug 21 20:13
twitterwell, there's not much other use for pig lungsAug 21 20:13
twitternot while I'm eating it's shanksAug 21 20:13
MrF_bagpipes?Aug 21 20:13
schestowitzhow about using pigs' lungs to save other adorabel pigs?Aug 21 20:13
schestowitzmaybe we can make pig surgeons toAug 21 20:14
schestowitz*tooAug 21 20:14
MrF_no toAug 21 20:14
twitterI'd rather fund medical treatment for my neighbors, thanks.Aug 21 20:14
schestowitzbut what about Babe?Aug 21 20:14
twittertasty Aug 21 20:14
schestowitzThat porky SOB..Aug 21 20:14
twitterI never saw Babe.Aug 21 20:15
schestowitzJustin Bieber wrote a long about it /sarcasmAug 21 20:15
schestowitz*songAug 21 20:15
twitteranyway, I've tried to decrease my meat intake for health purposes and global warming.Aug 21 20:15
schestowitzmight not work wellAug 21 20:16
twitterI'd live on fish if it were not so expensive and polluted Aug 21 20:16
schestowitzI fav'd a video abut it yesterdayAug 21 20:16
schestowitzA new one..Aug 21 20:16
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29PUNDYKlmo&feature=digestAug 21 20:16
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MrF_i think more immediate forces may come into play before global warming takes its tollAug 21 20:16
schestowitzyesAug 21 20:17
schestowitzof courseAug 21 20:17
twitterbut I don't need a lot of protein given the way I liveAug 21 20:17
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schestowitzwater... and peak oilAug 21 20:17
twittersure, but global warming is already costing us all lots of moneyAug 21 20:17
schestowitzI've hard that UK-style riots will spread further i n he worldAug 21 20:17
schestowitzBut in the US it would be scary because all the gunsAug 21 20:17
twitterdrought and flood are already harming food productions Aug 21 20:18
sebsebsebA B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10Aug 21 20:18
schestowitzIs it true there are 500 million guns in the US?Aug 21 20:18
twittercould beAug 21 20:18
schestowitzThe number was probably based on some old criteriaAug 21 20:18
MrF_yes they will but not for reasons you might expect HolmesAug 21 20:18
schestowitzI heard about the number of bullets every year, that was a shocking one..Aug 21 20:18
twitterI'm more worried about how militarized police have become and all of the "communication management" prisons that have been builtAug 21 20:18
schestowitzoh, fema camps?Aug 21 20:19
MrF_the uk is probably one of the worst places to be in the event of civil breakdown, nowhere to run or hide, but then in the vast expanses of the us, nobody can hear you scream...Aug 21 20:19
twitterno, these are more like little guantanamo bay prisons for "terrorists" and dissidentsAug 21 20:19
schestowitzManchetser alone had to arrest many people in a short amount of timeAug 21 20:19
twittereach state has oneAug 21 20:20
schestowitzAnd some of them merely entered shopsAug 21 20:20
twitterthey can house thousands of people eachAug 21 20:20
MrF_detainment campsAug 21 20:20
twitterrightAug 21 20:20
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twitterimmigration hate laws are yet another excuse to build more of themAug 21 20:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: What you think about  Google buying Motroalla, and  HP giving up on selling computers or tablets?  and pretty much on  WebOS as well probablyAug 21 20:20
schestowitztwitter: how does that excuse work?Aug 21 20:20
schestowitzIf an illegal alien is found, deportation can be immediateAug 21 20:21
twitterthey say they need prisons to handle all of the "illegal" peopleAug 21 20:21
MrF_the immigrants will be the pawns around which martial law is implemented i suspect, just like WW2Aug 21 20:21
twitterno, undocumented people don't get deported right away, they rot in jails for a year or soAug 21 20:21
schestowitzThe BolsheviksAug 21 20:21
schestowitz"Stalin is coming for us!"Aug 21 20:22
MrF_black people were heavily publiscised in the SKY media over here, divide and rule by CAmeronAug 21 20:22
schestowitzs/Cameron/Murdoch/Aug 21 20:22
twitterit is all divide and conquer, those in power want us to trust them and hate our neighborsAug 21 20:23
twitterparanoia increases their powerAug 21 20:23
schestowitz"they steal me money"Aug 21 20:23
twitterrightAug 21 20:23
schestowitz"who, ,me?Aug 21 20:23
schestowitz"yes, the nighbour"Aug 21 20:23
schestowitz"The Mexicans"Aug 21 20:23
schestowitz"The Jews"Aug 21 20:23
schestowitz"The blacks"Aug 21 20:23
twitterteachersAug 21 20:23
MrF_the asiansAug 21 20:23
twitterunionsAug 21 20:23
schestowitzNot the rich peopleAug 21 20:23
MrF_studentsAug 21 20:23
twitterdrug addictsAug 21 20:23
schestowitzAnd those who run the countryAug 21 20:23
MrF_lets march on parliament aaaargghAug 21 20:24
twitterparasites, aka poor peopleAug 21 20:24
schestowitzRacial wars are a decoyAug 21 20:24
schestowitzIt's the wrong classifierAug 21 20:24
twitterit's obvious who has societies wealthAug 21 20:24
twitterracial stuff is very bad hereAug 21 20:25
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twitterbut it is related to other power worship and corruptionAug 21 20:25
schestowitzddivider of useAug 21 20:25
schestowitzmaybe we'll get more ribbons soonAug 21 20:25
schestowitzTo help us criticise the othersAug 21 20:25
twitterracial divisions are why the American south has poor public schools.Aug 21 20:26
schestowitzribbons for ethnicities, handed out by CameronAug 21 20:26
twitterthe poorer people are, the easier it is to manipulate themAug 21 20:26
schestowitztwitter: it's still racist in the south, I hearAug 21 20:26
schestowitzInc. TexasAug 21 20:26
MrF_we need psychological profiling of all potential politicians, capitalism might be a fertile breeding ground for the self serving sociapath, the damage to society caused by certain personality types should not be underestimated, we need to be protected from ourselves Aug 21 20:26
twitterall over, very badAug 21 20:26
twitterand powerfully disabling Aug 21 20:27
twitterpeople who get a bad deal know it, regardless of how poorly educated and able to express it they may be.Aug 21 20:27
twitterpoverty and lack of resources make racism here worse, there really might not be enough to go aroundAug 21 20:28
schestowitzMrF_: techrights does this for softwaareAug 21 20:29
schestowitzmapping those 'journalists' who help sociopath and the player who need to be watched out forAug 21 20:29
schestowitzBut we don't do politics, other sites do that quite wellAug 21 20:29
schestowitzAnd some then get infiltrated hbrray tyleAug 21 20:29
schestowitz!google hbgary fiascoAug 21 20:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - What HBGary Federal CEO, Aaron Barr, taught me about corporate ... | http://kirbstr.posterous.com/what-hbgary-federal-ceo-aaron-barr-taught-meAug 21 20:29
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twitterpolitics and software are connected because both are manipulated by a small number of very rich peopleAug 21 20:30
twitterit's the same money pulling the same strings and the same rights that are violatedAug 21 20:31
schestowitz[20:28] <twitter> poverty and lack of resources make racism here worse, there really might not be enough to go aroundAug 21 20:31
schestowitzIt was good to be a baby boomer, life was easierAug 21 20:31
twitterlife has become progressively more difficult Aug 21 20:32
schestowitzfor us, the tough period was probably commencing around the 99/00 bubbleAug 21 20:32
schestowitzAnd now there's the second dip/thirdAug 21 20:32
schestowitzI remember 1998... Clinton's days with bright future eheadAug 21 20:32
twitterthe late 90s were a small relief in the relentless decline of most people's standard of living Aug 21 20:32
schestowitzSilicon Valley has become Silly-ConAug 21 20:32
twitteroh yeah, things looked good thenAug 21 20:33
schestowitzand companies like Yahoo and Google now provide surveillance services.. even over EuropeansAug 21 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is reality with 97 dents!Aug 21 20:33
schestowitzIn 1998 I built my first site, maybe 1997Aug 21 20:33
twitterthe USSR was defeated, disarmament was happening, new businesses were growing, there was even hope of peace in Isreal Aug 21 20:33
schestowitzI also started programming just before that timeAug 21 20:34
schestowitzNow I get mails from old friends (like one Dutch friend) who are desperate for software jobsAug 21 20:34
schestowitzremember .com bubble?Aug 21 20:34
schestowitzzoo.com...Aug 21 20:34
twitterI think the .com bubble is a mythAug 21 20:35
schestowitzand many other "promising" web stuff\?Aug 21 20:35
schestowitztwitter: how so?Aug 21 20:35
twitterthe collapse of the bubble was a reassertion of telco, broadcast and non free software power over new businesses Aug 21 20:35
twitterthe .com companies were crushed by a crushing and collapse of network build out that did not have to happenAug 21 20:36
MrF_i think the uk and us have been living off their imperial credit card since around 1960, other countries are no longer in awe of us and realise we are not the supreme master race we'd have them believe, we just happen to be in the lucky sperm club, right place right time etc, as nations our individual physical output does not compete, we are the fat spoiled kid about to be taught a harsh lesson, i blame the parents entirely.Aug 21 20:37
twitterin the US, at least, many of the businesses would have been viable with better networks that were planned and mandated by lawAug 21 20:37
twitterATT reneged on their contractual obligationsAug 21 20:38
twitterthe next decade of GWB rule let them get away with it and make things worseAug 21 20:38
twitterall of the money that should have been spent on network build out got spent on expensive spy equipmentAug 21 20:39
schestowitzMrF_: the parents did what Greenspan and the bankster aidAug 21 20:39
schestowitzThey said it was cceptabkle to max up 6c credit cardsAug 21 20:39
schestowitzJust make sure you make 6 kids you can feeds to help you pay the debt when they matureAug 21 20:39
MrF_@they@ are the paerentsAug 21 20:39
schestowitzIt's Petry Dish economy IMHOAug 21 20:39
twitterpeople have taken on debt as a substitute for incomeAug 21 20:40
schestowitz"Don't worry, just keep multiplying, take more oil, it's infin... oh, SH*T!!"Aug 21 20:40
twitterincreased corporate "productivity" has come from cutting wagesAug 21 20:40
MrF_so have governmentsAug 21 20:40
MrF_yesAug 21 20:40
twitterthe difference migrated to rich peopleAug 21 20:40
schestowitz[20:40] <twitter> people have taken on debt as a substitute for incomeAug 21 20:40
schestowitzTo keep  up apperancesAug 21 20:41
schestowitzBankers got their bonusesAug 21 20:41
schestowitzWhen it ran out they took bailoutAug 21 20:41
twitterto keep up vital necessities Aug 21 20:41
schestowitzAnd now they struggle to sell another bailoutAug 21 20:41
twittereducation first, which is why there are so many people suffering under student loansAug 21 20:41
schestowitzMaybe they can figure out how to explouit riots to get one last 3-year period of bailouts before show is overAug 21 20:41
twitterautomobiles are a form of debt, which people in most US cities are obligated to have because there's no public transportAug 21 20:42
schestowitzor boatsAug 21 20:42
schestowitzSome people take loan to buy oneAug 21 20:42
schestowitzto bragAug 21 20:42
schestowitzboats are hard to sell nowAug 21 20:42
schestowitzI know one who triedAug 21 20:42
twitterrightAug 21 20:42
schestowitzWho the heck would buy a boat in this type of economy, and what for?Aug 21 20:43
schestowitzSo this person (mom's cousin) is left with useless assetsAug 21 20:43
twitterif income distribution was undisturbed from the late 60s people could afford boats and might have the time to enjoy themAug 21 20:43
schestowitzpeople with debt will lose the house or move into a condoAug 21 20:43
schestowitzMaybe they can have firecracke estate sale to the lendersAug 21 20:43
schestowitz*ckerAug 21 20:43
schestowitzor sell parts of the USAug 21 20:44
twitterI live in a place where having a boat would be very nice but I don't dare buy one because I can hardly afford a house and education for my kidsAug 21 20:44
schestowitzIt has high GDP, can pay back the debt this wayAug 21 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good Evening !Identiverse :)Aug 21 20:45
twitterand I make about three times as much as "normal" people hereAug 21 20:45
twitterinsurance of all types is outrageous.  home insurance costs about half as much as a house note, thanks to an awful republican state leadershipAug 21 20:46
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twitterCMD is doing a good job of showing what a rip off health insurance is and this is going to kill people here.Aug 21 20:47
schestowitzThey have Potter nowAug 21 20:48
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twitterPeople can't afford health insurance and those who have it know that any serious disease will bankrupt them, so they stay away from doctors Aug 21 20:48
schestowitzIt's odd, as he's a superstar in the pressAug 21 20:48
twitterPotter is wonderfulAug 21 20:48
schestowitzHe's giving his time to CMD no, raises their profileAug 21 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It doesn't matter how often the #GOP try to avoid the obvious, Anders Behring Breivik was a right wing terroristAug 21 20:48
schestowitzHe is also a former insider, which helpsAug 21 20:48
twitterthe results are hard to hide and will start showing up as people die of late diagnosis cancer and vascular diseases from untreated high blood pressureAug 21 20:49
twitterthese preventable deaths will transfer even more money to rich people as insurance companies manage to profit off each and ever person covered Aug 21 20:50
twitterand pension plans don't have to be paid to employees who never retire because they can't afford insurance other wise Aug 21 20:51
twitterpeople will work till they drop deadAug 21 20:51
twitterand they will leave nothing behind Aug 21 20:51
twitterthinking of work, I've got some to do.  bblAug 21 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @bkuhn I wrote a blog post about !Nokia's failures w/ #OpenSource, discussing !Symbian & !Maemo / !MeeGo as examples: http://ur1.ca/ ...Aug 21 21:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana It is my belief that without this "error" neither Linux nor GNU had today been as widespread as they are, resulting in less #faif .Aug 21 21:20
schestowitzhmm...Aug 21 21:22
schestowitzwhat a pile of ***Aug 21 21:22
schestowitzI don't want to reinvent the wheel again...Aug 21 21:22
schestowitz"I have just forwarded to you my message to the server's admin. I believe geodesic_circle was implemented by Alex and Michael, so I wanted to look at their code rather than re-implement."Aug 21 21:22
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeodesyAug 21 21:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Good page on the planned Bank of America covert attack on WikiLeaks http://t.co/z56lrAzAug 21 21:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] The Liminality Project has been added to NHI.o! Itis a !cc pulp serial licensed under the CC-BY-NC-SA License. Learn more here ur1.ca/4y2ymAug 21 22:02
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twitterwow, that is a fantastic collection and organization of HBGary emailAug 21 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Background review on Domscheit-Berg-OpenLeaks theft | Rixstep http://t.co/Oyb7YRtAug 21 22:40
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twitterit's probably worth recording the url in full form http://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Palantir#List_of_emails_TO_Matthew_Steckman_RE:_WikileaksAug 21 22:41
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twittersadly, search.hbgary.anonleaks.ru seems to be blocked at the dns levelAug 21 22:43
twitterI get unknown host errorsAug 21 22:43
twitterhow utterly shocking!Aug 21 22:44
cubezzzdid you try google's dns?Aug 21 22:44
cubezzz8.8.4.4Aug 21 22:44
twitterI tried my own, thanksAug 21 22:44
twitterdoes google's have a censorship block feature?Aug 21 22:45
cubezzznot sureAug 21 22:45
twitterI imagine that they got yanked out of the ru by the usual censorship crowdAug 21 22:45
cubezzzserver not foundAug 21 22:46
cubezzztry the ip address directlyAug 21 22:46
twitterwhat IP address?Aug 21 22:46
twitterwhois search.hbgary.anonleaks.ruAug 21 22:46
twitter% By submitting a query to RIPN's Whois ServiceAug 21 22:46
twitter% you agree to abide by the following terms of use:Aug 21 22:46
twitter% http://www.ripn.net/about/servpol.html#3.2 (in Russian) Aug 21 22:46
twitter% http://www.ripn.net/about/en/servpol.html#3.2 (in English).Aug 21 22:46
twitterNo entries found for the selected source(s).Aug 21 22:46
twitterLast updated on 2011.08.22 01:32:40 MSK/MSDAug 21 22:46
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cubezzzanonleaks.ru on it's own maybe?Aug 21 22:47
twitterdoes that work for you?Aug 21 22:48
twitterping anonleaks.ruAug 21 22:48
twitterping: unknown host anonleaks.ruAug 21 22:48
cubezzzno goAug 21 22:48
twittersame hereAug 21 22:48
twitterheh, google has a censorship thwart after all http://www.google.com/search?q=anonleaks&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8Aug 21 22:49
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twitterhttp://hbgary.anonleaks.ch/Aug 21 22:50
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twitteris that in Communist China?Aug 21 22:50
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twitternow I'm getting somewhere, but what a pain http://hbgary.anonleaks.ch/aaron_hbgary_com/7793.htmlAug 21 22:53
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twitterworksAug 21 22:53
twitterah yes, the famous quote, "  These are established proffessionals that have a liberal bent, but ultimately most of them if pushed will choose professional preservation over cause, such is the mentality of most business professionals."Aug 21 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @tekk #identica is dead; doesn't matter if you follow me or not. #PHP and #MySQL did it in.Aug 21 22:55
twitterwhat a nasty bunch Aug 21 22:55
twittertheir hypocrisy in decrying Anonymous could not be more palpable.  Aug 21 22:55
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twitterThey thought they could strike out against activists and others using fake names, essentially anonymously, to hurt people, now they accuse Anonymous of being cowards who hurt people.  Aug 21 22:56
twitterlol at these turkeys an their Winblows computers http://hbgary.anonleaks.ch/aaron_hbgary_com/3606.htmlAug 21 22:59
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twitterwhat the hekc is "winmail.dat" ?Aug 21 22:59
twitterhttp://www.magicwinmail.net/Aug 21 23:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I could've sworn I followed @fontana and @reality ages ago #FixedNowAug 21 23:00
twitteris that what those idiots were using? FOTHLMAOAug 21 23:00
schestowitzsome messages from Windows come with such a bloated fileAug 21 23:00
schestowitzI think it's malicious even if not harmful to many usersAug 21 23:00
twitterit comes from something called a Winmail serverAug 21 23:01
SnitHow is it malicious.  Silly, yes... but not really malicious.  Aug 21 23:01
SnitAnd I have not seen these in a long timeAug 21 23:01
twitterLook, you can get a FREE 30 day trial http://www.magicwinmail.net/download.aspAug 21 23:03
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twitterheh, at least the winmail people know what to use on a server http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.magicwinmail.net%2FAug 21 23:04
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twitterthough I'm not sure why they use aspAug 21 23:04
twitterclick and drool dude, http://www.magicwinmail.net/screenshots.aspAug 21 23:05
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twitterworks great with Outlook, http://www.magicwinmail.net/download.aspAug 21 23:06
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twitterquick, give it to all the would be spies in your lifeAug 21 23:06
twitterI love the little IE logos down in the useful utilities section Aug 21 23:08
twitterWith experts like HBGary advising big banks, your money is secureAug 21 23:09
twitteranother beauty " Aaron From my iPhone"Aug 21 23:11
twitterhttp://hbgary.anonleaks.ch/aaron_hbgary_com/5152.htmlAug 21 23:12
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twitterI wonder if the phone numbers still work.  Like this one,  "Samuel Kremin Analyst/Consultant Berico Technologies 703.473.1493"Aug 21 23:14
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twitterI wonder if the phone numbers still work.  Like this one,  "Samuel Kremin Analyst/Consultant Berico Technologies 703.473.1493"
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twitterSomeone should find a pay phone and dail a few to find out.  
twitterjust ask if you can speak to the named person, if they answer tell them you are reading their email and that they are idiots.
twitterthey might respond that they can read everyone else's email, but that does not make everyone else an idiot, it makes the spooks evil
-TRIdentica/#techrights- [rsandu/@rsandu] RT @samatjain If you're *REALLY* interested in efforts to port !Android to the HP TouchPad (wiki, src repo, etc) http://ur1.ca/4y35g
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-TRIdentica/#techrights- [rsandu/@rsandu] RT @laquadrature [fr][Liberation.fr] Les opérateurs réfléchiraient à la fin de l'internet fixe illimité http://lqdn.fr/node/4699
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-TRIdentica/#techrights- [rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Links 21/8/2011: Fusion Garage Makes Android Tablets, GNU IceCat 6.0 is Released http://ur1.ca/4y26k !techrights
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-TRIdentica/#techrights- [rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz !Fedora 15 KDE - How to upgrade to !KDE 4.7 http://ur1.ca/4y22b
-TRIdentica/#techrights- [rsandu/@rsandu] RT @silner 10 Reasons !GIMP is Better Than Photoshop via @linuxartist http://ping.fm/jnN18
-TRIdentica/#techrights- [rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Seven Free LibreOffice Extensions You Should Know About http://ur1.ca/4y218 #libreoffice #odf
-TRIdentica/#techrights- [rsandu/@rsandu] RT @neustradamus !Pidgin 2.10.0 has been released
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-TRIdentica/#techrights- [rsandu/@rsandu] RT @chiossif ♺ @_ppusa: Lars Wirzenius: !Linux at 20, some personal memories http://j.mp/nXBJit Computing history by a friend of !Linus ...
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz !Fedora 15 KDE - How to upgrade to !KDE 4.7 http://ur1.ca/4y22bAug 21 23:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @chiossif ♺ @_ppusa: Lars Wirzenius: !Linux at 20, some personal memories http://j.mp/nXBJit Computing history by a friend of !Linus ...Aug 21 23:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz !GNU #IceCat 6.0 released http://ur1.ca/4y0vkAug 21 23:30
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twitterBack to school shopping.  That's another chance for Windows 7 to fail again.Aug 21 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] With Tripoli about to fall, foreign intelligence agencies will be rushing to loot Libya's intel archives for their own purposes.Aug 21 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Libya should publish all its intel archives immediately, so the Libyan people, and the world, can make use of this treasure.Aug 21 23:45
schestowitzHas twitter (the site) been cracked?Aug 21 23:48
schestowitzI've been getting IMs from friends that apparently lead to spamAug 21 23:49
schestowitzThat's twice in the past hourAug 21 23:49
schestowitzAnd twitter blocks the linksAug 21 23:49
twitterare your friends Windows users?Aug 21 23:49
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/81296764Aug 21 23:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Răzvan Sandu (rsandu)'s status on Sunday, 21-Aug-11 22:27:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I used #Xandros for an hour back in 2008, after buying a new #EeePC preloaded with it. Performed bad, quickly switch to #FedoraAug 21 23:49
schestowitztwitter: noAug 21 23:49
twittergnu/linux users?Aug 21 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Intelligence on who the various power players are in the Libyan insurgency will otherwise be lost to the people of Libya.Aug 21 23:50
schestowitzI think one if dual-bootingAug 21 23:50
schestowitzone uses archAug 21 23:50
schestowitzI have a debianAug 21 23:50
schestowitzquestionAug 21 23:50
schestowitzin the gnome side I set my user to adminAug 21 23:51
schestowitzAnd yet, in kde systemsettingsAug 21 23:51
schestowitzI can't get to the login settings that usually need rootAug 21 23:51
schestowitzi'm not in sudoersAug 21 23:51
twitterssh -X root@localhostAug 21 23:51
schestowitzAnd if I su I can't get x upAug 21 23:51
twitterthen run systemsettings and exitAug 21 23:51
schestowitzthanksAug 21 23:52
schestowitzdoinh itAug 21 23:52
schestowitztakes a while to loadAug 21 23:52
schestowitzfunny I have to confirm key for my own machineAug 21 23:53
twitteryou probably don't log into it oftenAug 21 23:53
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twitterI'm told the key confirmations are not such great security but I'm not sure what works better.Aug 21 23:54
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schestowitzthis was long-windedAug 21 23:54
schestowitzbtw, I'm dumping firefoxAug 21 23:54
schestowitzit just messed up dpkgAug 21 23:54
GoForbes28hiAug 21 23:54
schestowitztook me almost an hour to undo the damageAug 21 23:54
schestowitzand it all started when I added ppasAug 21 23:55
schestowitzSo I was asking for troubleAug 21 23:55
GoForbes28hmm, I suppose you could try the XFCE browser, MidoriAug 21 23:55
GoForbes28oh wait, you use KDEAug 21 23:55
schestowitzanyway, I can live without firefox after all these years. It takes too much RAM and most sites work fine with khtmlAug 21 23:55
GoForbes28I guess it's Konqueror for youAug 21 23:55
twitteror whatever version of iceweasel is in your repoAug 21 23:55
GoForbes28or GNU IceCatAug 21 23:55
schestowitznow it autologin-enabledAug 21 23:56
GoForbes28Fedora XFCE is still... stock.Aug 21 23:56
twitterI'm mostly using Konq with a little chromium-browser.  I don't step outside of debian's repositories.Aug 21 23:56
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twitterI suppose autologin is OK if you have to type a password for drive encryption on boot anyway.Aug 21 23:57
GoForbes28puppywatch?  A representative from the Puppy Linux community?Aug 21 23:57
twitterI'm a little more paranoid than that and use xscreensaver to lock my sessions on inactivity and when I tell it.  Aug 21 23:58
schestowitzhttp://www.datamation.com/open-source/mozilla-unleashes-firefox-6.html  <<< do not want!Aug 21 23:58
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schestowitzI might try it anywayAug 21 23:58
schestowitzone last chance for mozillaAug 21 23:59
twittergood luck, edge bleeder!Aug 21 23:59
twitterIf you don't want to blow up your real machine, you could always try it in a VM.Aug 21 23:59

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