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sebsebseb | schestowitz: _Goblin Maybe this week as of about a minute now | Jul 25 00:02 |
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sebsebseb | 2 minutes even | Jul 25 00:02 |
sebsebseb | or if not when I get back from holiday some time | Jul 25 00:02 |
sebsebseb | When are you likely to do other Techbytes? Both of you. | Jul 25 00:02 |
_Goblin | er.... | Jul 25 00:03 |
_Goblin | probably next one will be tues or wed next week | Jul 25 00:03 |
_Goblin | week after I mean | Jul 25 00:03 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: you mean early August? | Jul 25 00:03 |
_Goblin | yep | Jul 25 00:03 |
sebsebseb | ah right well not then | Jul 25 00:03 |
sebsebseb | I am away then | Jul 25 00:03 |
_Goblin | todays one will probably be the last for july | Jul 25 00:03 |
sebsebseb | So you just recorded one? | Jul 25 00:04 |
sebsebseb | anyway my birthday is the 31st July, and then I go away to Sweden on the 1st and come back on the 10th, so yeah ok some time after I been away then, and sure August I think. | Jul 25 00:05 |
sebsebseb | and then maybe I can get that Mageia guy to come on in like September or October or something, but will need to chat to him again about that. | Jul 25 00:05 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !CrunchBang — for once, the temptation to use it for longer that the simple “test drive” is overwhelming goo.gl/5up7o | Jul 25 00:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I've never seen Space Cowboys so I could fairly comment | Jul 25 00:29 | |
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_Goblin | right...I think Im off for the night | Jul 25 01:11 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 24/7/2011: News Leftovers http://ur1.ca/4s6g6 #techrights | Jul 25 02:02 | |
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Chips | Hello | Jul 25 02:04 |
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Guest58604 | is Roy still up? | Jul 25 02:05 |
Guest58604 | Might have an important story that may have been overlooked | Jul 25 02:05 |
Guest58604 | Mr Carl Icahn, Corporate Raider. The same one that raided the Blockbuster company and got Silverlight on their online streaming service. You know that created a sort of online monopoly for MS with the video disk rental companies | Jul 25 02:07 |
Guest58604 | The Same Icahn also that raided Yahoo. Same story here as Blockbuster, the CEO in both cases replaced and MS gains. | Jul 25 02:09 |
Guest58604 | He is up to no good again | Jul 25 02:09 |
Guest58604 | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903461104576462352065163360.html | Jul 25 02:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HEARD ON THE STREET: Icahn's Motorola Play Not Patently Crazy - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 130.23 KB | Jul 25 02:09 |
Guest58604 | "Mr. Icahn, Motorola Mobility's top shareholder, with roughly an 11% stake, fought to break up Motorola in the first place. He hoped that splitting Mobility from Motorola's other business primarily selling emergency radios, now called Motorola Solutions, would unlock value for shareholders. Yet as of Wednesday, when Mobility's shares fetched $22.41, the equity value of the separate companies was roughly flat with that of the | Jul 25 02:10 |
Guest58604 | And yes, its partly about the patents | Jul 25 02:10 |
Guest58604 | http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/21/motorola-idUSN1E76K18Y20110721 | Jul 25 02:10 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UPDATE 4-Icahn urges Motorola to shop patent portfolio | Reuters .::. Size~: 75.4 KB | Jul 25 02:10 |
Guest58604 | It mainly about weaking Motorola or replacing its management as they are the only company that is fighting MS patent agression. | Jul 25 02:11 |
Guest58604 | "Icahn, Motorola's biggest shareholder with an 11.36 percent stake, started talks with the company on Wednesday about exploring "alternatives regarding its patent portfolio to enhance shareholder value," according to regulatory filing." | Jul 25 02:12 |
schestowitz | Hi there | Jul 25 02:13 |
Guest58604 | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-21/icahn-urges-motorola-mobility-to-weigh-patent-options-after-nortel-s-sale.html | Jul 25 02:13 |
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Guest58604 | Hi Roy, its Chips here | Jul 25 02:13 |
Guest58604 | have not setup konversation yet on this newer computer | Jul 25 02:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TechBytes Episode 56: GNU/Linux Versus Mac OS X http://ur1.ca/4s6hl !techbytes | Jul 25 02:14 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] TechBytes Episode 56: GNU/Linux Versus Mac OS X http://ur1.ca/4s6hl #techbytes | Jul 25 02:14 | |
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schestowitz | Ichan not exiled yet? | Jul 25 02:14 |
schestowitz | icahn | Jul 25 02:14 |
schestowitz | Along with Nathan and Bill | Jul 25 02:14 |
schestowitz | Destructive people, ruining the US | Jul 25 02:14 |
Guest58604 | yes, same old MS Icahn playbook, if you cannot beat them, buy part of them | Jul 25 02:15 |
schestowitz | do you think he plays for Motorola to give in to Microsoft? Doesn't sound like it | Jul 25 02:15 |
schestowitz | I recently saw this disgusting vulture hitting another company | Jul 25 02:15 |
schestowitz | It's a troublemaker like Pal Singer | Jul 25 02:15 |
schestowitz | Paul | Jul 25 02:15 |
schestowitz | And they should be exiled | Jul 25 02:16 |
Guest58604 | To me, it looks like Icahn is just one of M$ hacket men | Jul 25 02:16 |
schestowitz | They don't contribute anything to society, they motetise harm | Jul 25 02:16 |
schestowitz | what excepy Yahoo though? | Jul 25 02:16 |
Guest58604 | Icahn's history of Blockbuster, Yahoo, and now Motorola's raids should be documented and turned over to the DOJ and EU | Jul 25 02:17 |
Guest58604 | as they clearly look to be inspired by the money behind MS | Jul 25 02:17 |
cubezzz | didn't blockbuster go under? | Jul 25 02:17 |
cubezzz | or are they still kicking? | Jul 25 02:17 |
Guest58604 | they went into bankrupcy at least once, but still alive at least the stores, probably online rentals as well | Jul 25 02:18 |
Guest58604 | Hollywood rentals did go under I believe | Jul 25 02:19 |
cubezzz | probably the era of video rental stores is over | Jul 25 02:19 |
Guest58604 | not quite, although Redbox is hurting them | Jul 25 02:19 |
Guest58604 | Roy, I did not do a good job of quotes from those sources | Jul 25 02:19 |
cubezzz | foolishly I tried netflix | Jul 25 02:19 |
Guest58604 | me too a long time ago | Jul 25 02:20 |
cubezzz | of course it sucks :) | Jul 25 02:20 |
Guest58604 | and a friend tried Blockbuster | Jul 25 02:20 |
Guest58604 | they were actually better back a few years ago | Jul 25 02:20 |
cubezzz | we had Jumbo Video years and years ago | Jul 25 02:20 |
cubezzz | it was OK | Jul 25 02:20 |
schestowitz | Guest58604: I don't quite see the pattern | Jul 25 02:21 |
cubezzz | the internet has supplanted everything | Jul 25 02:21 |
schestowitz | Icahn the monster has been around for ages | Jul 25 02:21 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/silner/status/95212677428813824 | Jul 25 02:21 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @silner: Have you seen Intellectual Ventures response to the NPR program @schestowitz ? http://j.mp/pLwok2 Predictable, just making sure you saw it | Jul 25 02:21 |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Kai_Mast/status/95109845572784128 | Jul 25 02:21 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Kai_Mast: @schestowitz why shouldn't we share them? | Jul 25 02:21 |
schestowitz | Sharing is always good | Jul 25 02:21 |
Guest58604 | Icahn, must be 'Plan B' for MS if they are not winning the patent case against Motorola from using Android | Jul 25 02:22 |
Guest58604 | If you can't beat them in court, buy enough of them through an proxy to destroy them | Jul 25 02:22 |
schestowitz | yeah | Jul 25 02:23 |
schestowitz | Typical Microsoft | Jul 25 02:23 |
schestowitz | Tomorrow morning I have 7 articles to post | Jul 25 02:23 |
schestowitz | goblin and I did a show yesterday | Jul 25 02:23 |
Guest58604 | The pattern is to use a proxy, supposedly one not connected to MS, to go in and either break up the company, replace the management to moles, or to make a deal and get what you want. | Jul 25 02:24 |
schestowitz | I published it 15 mins ago | Jul 25 02:24 |
schestowitz | http://ur1.ca/4s6hl | Jul 25 02:24 |
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Guest58604 | Icahn is that proxy | Jul 25 02:24 |
schestowitz | pls give us feedback, it's 2am here, gotta run | Jul 25 02:24 |
schestowitz | "Icahn, Motorola's biggest shareholder with an 11.36 percent stake, started talks with the company on Wednesday about exploring "alternatives regarding its patent portfolio to enhance shareholder value," according to regulatory filing." | Jul 25 02:24 |
cubezzz | bah, 2 am is just the start of programming time :) | Jul 25 02:24 |
schestowitz | This could mean using MORE patents | Jul 25 02:24 |
schestowitz | depends on my sleep cyckes | Jul 25 02:25 |
Guest58604 | So Roy, you already seen this story? | Jul 25 02:25 |
schestowitz | There were times I woke up at 2am, by choice | Jul 25 02:25 |
cubezzz | who started the whole software patent thing? | Jul 25 02:25 |
schestowitz | no, haven't seen the story | Jul 25 02:25 |
schestowitz | But if it's beneficial to MS (important Android case), then it's something to think about | Jul 25 02:25 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, I get to do something fun tonight | Jul 25 02:26 |
cubezzz | retro-programming | Jul 25 02:26 |
Guest58604 | Notice that Icahn has 11.36%. In his other raids it was a lot less percentage.. | Jul 25 02:26 |
cubezzz | that's when you finish something you started over 20 years ago | Jul 25 02:26 |
Guest58604 | They must really not want Motorola to dispute the patents in court. | Jul 25 02:27 |
Guest58604 | I believe that Motorola is the only company so far to not roll over and play dead. | Jul 25 02:28 |
Guest58604 | Its all about the patents, both the ones of MS and Motorola. | Jul 25 02:28 |
Guest58604 | Do we really want Icahn forcing them to sell the patents? | Jul 25 02:29 |
Guest58604 | Guess who will buy them? | Jul 25 02:29 |
Guest58604 | While this is a patent story, its also much worse. Its a story about greed of a raider, and the very real possiblity that he is doing this at the behest of MS. | Jul 25 02:30 |
Guest58604 | At least in any case, it clearly benifits MS. | Jul 25 02:31 |
Guest58604 | Same as the actions of Icahn benifited MS in the Yahoo and Blockbuster raids. | Jul 25 02:32 |
schestowitz | possible | Jul 25 02:33 |
Guest58604 | Microsoft remains the biggest problem to free software still. | Jul 25 02:33 |
schestowitz | of course | Jul 25 02:33 |
schestowitz | more on that tomorrow | Jul 25 02:33 |
schestowitz | It's the Microsoft clan | Jul 25 02:33 |
schestowitz | Bill, Nathan, Allen.. | Jul 25 02:33 |
schestowitz | The stooges with zero ethics | Jul 25 02:33 |
schestowitz | Hacking the system, buying reputation laundering | Jul 25 02:33 |
schestowitz | The US should exile more people | Jul 25 02:34 |
Guest58604 | Its a good story, be careful with your wording and don't accuse the Icahn outright. | Jul 25 02:34 |
Guest58604 | schestowitz> Bill, Nathan, Allen Yes, but you left out Ballmer in that list. | Jul 25 02:35 |
Guest58604 | Nokia is in big trouble now. | Jul 25 02:35 |
schestowitz | it IS the troubke | Jul 25 02:36 |
schestowitz | More on that tomorrow | Jul 25 02:36 |
schestowitz | It'll use patents for Microsoft | Jul 25 02:36 |
schestowitz | gn | Jul 25 02:36 |
Guest58604 | gn | Jul 25 02:36 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Free Culture Advocate Aaron Swartz May Pay High Price http://ur1.ca/4s6tn #tpn #anon #piracy | Jul 25 03:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk tag them #TekkAlgebra I guess, that way I have a record | Jul 25 03:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] downloading the latest #TopGear episode | Jul 25 04:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Bike racing only works on YouTube... You'll just see the crashes" !q - Jeremy Clarkson !TopGear | Jul 25 06:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] hahaha, #Jeremy got corrected on S17E05; that is NOT a #Lancer, but a #Galant !TopGear | Jul 25 06:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] It's Official: #Airbnb Joins The Billion Dollar Valuation Club - http://onforb.es/nhVG9n pretty amazing vote for #collaborativeconsumption | Jul 25 07:27 | |
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TechrightsBot-tr | @qu1j0t3: .@gbraad Whatever Google+ is "trying" to do with account deletion, the point of the article is it's hurting genuine users. @schestowitz | Jul 25 08:21 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indian traders learn Mandarin to strike business deals in #China - http://bit.ly/n9rC2z "language of money & opportunity." (v @chinesepod) | Jul 25 08:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody A Taste of MERLOT with College Open Textbooks - http://bit.ly/nzmfjc "Search and browse for over 2,000 open textbooks cata ... | Jul 25 08:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rajitsingh @arnebab Generic names can be a big inconvenience. Like searching for an audio converter called Audio Converter (actual a ... | Jul 25 08:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GroupWise Abandonment Continues http://ur1.ca/4s8x3 #mail #email | Jul 25 08:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] GroupWise Abandonment Continues http://ur1.ca/4s8x3 #novell #server #australia #lockin #google #FogComputinh | Jul 25 08:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Apologies to all following the serialization of !InconstantMoon which was down much of Sunday... http://ur1.ca/3c4fi ...all better now :) | Jul 25 08:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Copyright and Me - http://bit.ly/n1aKC4 great but sad personal tale of how #copyright hurts aspiring creators (v http://bi ... | Jul 25 08:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ♻ @boycottnovell GroupWise Abandonment Continues http://ur1.ca/4s8x3 #novell #server #australia #lockin #google #FogComputinh | Jul 25 08:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] i'm sure i will @mcnalu (really going now, almost forgot to post the apology) | Jul 25 08:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Novell Remembered as One of Several Proprietary Software Companies Where Products Die http://ur1.ca/4s8zy #vmware #kvm | Jul 25 08:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @ddhuy Wednesday September 7th: talk about !Freedombox in #Hackerspace #Brussels. #HSBXL http://dr.jones.dk/fb/year/ http://ur1.ca/4s8s1 | Jul 25 08:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Novell Remembered as One of Several Proprietary Software Companies Where Products Die http://ur1.ca/4s8zy #virtualisation | Jul 25 08:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Habari ya asubuhi? @marjoleink | Jul 25 08:55 | |
MinceR | geekings | Jul 25 09:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fake Development ‘News’ Sites Promote #Microsoft Only http://ur1.ca/4s944 #mono #dotnet #foxnews #journalism | Jul 25 09:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Fake Development ‘News’ Sites Promote #Microsoft Only http://ur1.ca/4s944 #novell #lockin #development #government #pr | Jul 25 09:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Windows is Losing Ground, Linux-Hostile/Intolerant Service Pack Kicks In http://ur1.ca/4s97c #gnu #linux #windows #windows7 | Jul 25 09:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Windows is Losing Ground, Linux-Hostile/Intolerant Service Pack Kicks In http://ur1.ca/4s97c #vista7 #mbr #grub #lilo #antitrust | Jul 25 09:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Lubuntu 11.10 Default Theme "Ozone2" Gets Revamped http://ur1.ca/4s97g | Jul 25 09:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @ludost "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock."- Thomas Jefferson !q #qtd | Jul 25 09:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 56: GNU/Linux and Mac OS X Discussion by Michael Glasser, Roy Schestowitz, and ‘Goblin http://ur1.ca/4s992 | Jul 25 09:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 56: GNU/Linux and Mac OS X Discussion by Michael Glasser, Roy Schestowitz, and ‘Goblin http://ur1.ca/4s992 | Jul 25 09:24 | |
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Snit | I see the show is posted - will listen to it tomorrow. Only nit is saying "Michael Glasser, who advocates Apple products" | Jul 25 09:27 |
Snit | I do more of advocating of might be called "informed computing"... but no doubt that includes a decent focus on the Mac. So not a big deal... | Jul 25 09:28 |
MinceR | so would any crApple fan say | Jul 25 09:29 |
MinceR | no doubt | Jul 25 09:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Sponsorships of #OpenSUSE http://ur1.ca/4s9ce #suse #novell #google #gsoc #swpats #linspire #xandros #turbolinux | Jul 25 09:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sponsorships of OpenSUSE http://ur1.ca/4s9ce | Jul 25 09:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @sandersch @davidmn I hope you never show me your appreciation :-s | Jul 25 09:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @greve A must read for anyone who wants to know the truth about software patents: http://is.gd/z5PAPy | Jul 25 10:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Connection Between Patent Troll #Lodsys and Former #Microsoft CTO/Microsoft Proxy Highlighted http://ur1.ca/4s9le #swpats | Jul 25 10:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Connection Between Patent Troll Lodsys and Former Microsoft CTO/Microsoft Proxy Highlighted http://ur1.ca/4s9le #uspto | Jul 25 10:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @schestowitz: Connection Between Patent Troll #Lodsys and Former #Microsoft CTO/Microsoft Proxy Highlighted http://ur1.ca/4s9le #swpats | Jul 25 10:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Murdoch shirking responsibility over phone hacking, says police chief http://is.gd/sU0cr8 - #BreakingNews pot calls kettle black | Jul 25 10:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Balotelli hauled off in disgrace after showboating http://is.gd/gRVmyo he may be talented but it counts for nowt if ya can't be a pro | Jul 25 10:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Copyright and Me - http://bit.ly/n1aKC4 great but sad personal tale of how #copyright hurts aspiring creators (v http://bi ... | Jul 25 10:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Twentieth Century Fox brings movies to Google Android devices - http://is.gd/qyeyhB #google #microsoft #android #wp7 | Jul 25 10:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Sponsorships of OpenSUSE http://techrights.org/2011/07/25/limited-resources/ | Jul 25 10:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] ActionDispatch::Cookies::CookieOverflow ... WTF? | Jul 25 10:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Lubuntu 11.10 Default Theme "Ozone2" Gets Revamped http://goo.gl/SBb4z | Jul 25 10:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Obama says he’s not willing to end the #drug war - http://bit.ly/olct99 trying hard to disappoint on every issue (v @TransformDrugs) | Jul 25 10:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google is Looking to Join the Patents #Cartel to Defend #Android http://ur1.ca/4s9ry #linux #apple #notel #microsoft #swpats | Jul 25 10:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Google is Looking to Join the Patents Cartel to Defend Android http://ur1.ca/4s9ry #uspto #nokia #elop #mole #oha #antitrust | Jul 25 10:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Liebe #CDU. Weil in Norwegen die Vorratsdatenspeicherung nicht geholfen hat, müssen wir sie in Deutschland einführen? #facepalm #Neusprech | Jul 25 10:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Norway has implemented EU data retention directive. And it didn't help AFAICS. So why on earth are german politicians now pushing for it? | Jul 25 10:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Norway’s challenge - http://bit.ly/qY7rPv utterly deranged: "the abject failure of multiculturalism" (v http://bit.ly/qz3tvI) #oslo | Jul 25 10:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] so, when will !choqok support the new twitter direct message auth scheme?.. or is that already implemented in trunk? | Jul 25 11:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Walkers: Salt & Vinegar... tastes like fries with sour mayonaise. @yongyuan doesn't like it. I think it is OK :-P | Jul 25 11:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Partner Used Software Patents to Sue Microsoft Imitators http://ur1.ca/4s9x0 #questsoftware #centrify #likewise #mono | Jul 25 11:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Microsoft Partner Used Software Patents to Sue Microsoft Imitators http://ur1.ca/4s9x0 #cifs #java #kinect #acacia #swpats | Jul 25 11:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] No Comment http://slated.org/no_comment Andrew Orlowski deserves this, and The Register deserves better. | Jul 25 11:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Very interesting !fellowship interview with @reiter http://ur1.ca/4rpgv founder !fsfe #ffii #freegis.org #fossgis + !fs company #intevation | Jul 25 11:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mainstream Press is Turning Against Software Patents http://ur1.ca/4sa1c #swpats #nz #eu #india #uspto #mumbai #patenttroll | Jul 25 11:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Mainstream Press is Turning Against Software Patents http://ur1.ca/4sa1c #patent #protectionism #sanction #apple #linux #law | Jul 25 11:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Mikogo: Cross-Platform Desktop Sharing And Web Conferencing Tool http://ur1.ca/4sa1q | Jul 25 11:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jonathan Thomas: #Muon Suite 1.2 RC released http://goo.gl/IUZCo !kubuntu | Jul 25 11:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @greve A must read for anyone who wants to know the truth about software patents: http://is.gd/z5PAPy | Jul 25 11:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @reiter @fsfe interviewed me about funding !FreeSoftware development and the evolution of !FSFE: http://link.fsfe.org/BaulaN . Do you ... | Jul 25 11:34 | |
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Mikko___ | pay to view online video is slowly going over to silverlight here in sweden | Jul 25 11:39 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vacation Until August http://ur1.ca/4sa5h starting tomorrow. Until then I will write as much as possible. | Jul 25 11:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: American Conservative on the War Aganst WikiLeaks (video) http://t.co/p4sq6TR | Jul 25 11:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Depression & Decline: American Irresponsibility is Ending the American Era with a Bang - http://t.co/YUsdrGo good summary of what might come | Jul 25 11:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 56 – 24/07/11 – “The Grilling! ;)” http://tinyurl.com/3ue2abj | Jul 25 11:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @MagsNews News Int'l staff told to stop deleting emails http://is.gd/6pxWn7 < why do I think this is too late ? #Murdoch #pressreform | Jul 25 11:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @tacone_ ♻ @TheMarco Mayor of #Oslo speaks; can you imagine any US politician saying this, ever? http://tumblr.com/xhz3orp6g7 #p2 | Jul 25 11:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @boycottnovell Mainstream Press is Turning Against Software Patents http://ur1.ca/4sa1c #patent #protectionism #sanction #apple #linu ... | Jul 25 11:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So many exciting projects about....loving Aros/Icarus ....Google+ is offering me what Facebook never could....so much to write/talk about! | Jul 25 11:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Zuckerberg tops media power list http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14274123 --> For how long I wonder? #facebook #google+ | Jul 25 11:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Eight weeks of #noemail (and the results are in) | http://red.ht/nUtI93 @smalljones | Jul 25 12:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO ♺ @sixgun: Dan & Fab will host a listener hangout on Google+ at 13:00 UTC today. Keep your eyes on http://gplus.to/fabsh | Jul 25 12:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @fabsh !LO ♺ @sixgun: Dan & Fab will host a listener hangout on Google+ at 13:00 UTC today. Keep your eyes on http://gplus.to/fabsh | Jul 25 12:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] personally, i'd just like to see any required control panels displayed in $APP_OF_MY_CHOICE via a standard for that. | Jul 25 12:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] the rest of the discussion is piddling over details and tbh highly uninteresting | Jul 25 12:12 | |
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schestowitz | quiet today.. | Jul 25 12:23 |
fredmanglis | looks like it... | Jul 25 12:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] iow, let the market decide. less struggle & wasted energy, more users for us, and a big carrot to adjust attitudes with. | Jul 25 12:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] few things are as motivating as losing what matters to you. :) | Jul 25 12:27 | |
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schestowitz | ok, off for a swim.. | Jul 25 12:34 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #DistroWatch Weekly Issue 415 has been released. This week's feature story: Debian's GNU/kFreeBSD | http://goo.gl/GwQuS | Jul 25 12:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !UbuntuCloud Days is TODAY http://goo.gl/mqswd !u | Jul 25 13:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Absolutely political incorrect version of http://is.gd/NUU91P is here http://is.gd/Y8PWDb - made me LOL nevertheless. | Jul 25 13:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 3 graphical clients 4 managing Uncomplicated FireWall http://tiny.tw/8hJ | Jul 25 13:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Letters cast doubt on #NoW claim that it 'co-operated fully' with police http://is.gd/Gvur4B | Jul 25 13:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @ffkp @jonaso, FFKP's executive director, has been appointed Creative Commons Regional Manager for Europe: http://ur1.ca/4saw0 #CC | Jul 25 13:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @smalljones John Cage, "I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones." v Michèle Drechsler | Jul 25 13:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I already rooted my Bart Smit WonderMedia 8650 TomTec Android 7" tablet. Was a bit of a puzzle, since I have no access to a WinDOS machine. | Jul 25 13:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] James Murdoch, like his father, is a fucking liar http://ur1.ca/4sb71 | Jul 25 13:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Norway has low crime, high gun ownership: proof Republicans are fucking retarded http://ur1.ca/4sb7z | Jul 25 13:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] The custom firmware comes with a BATCH file to configure, but that doesn't work under GNU/Linux. Tried all tricks in my DOS/Win(e) toolchain | Jul 25 14:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] So I had to check out the BATCH file and commit the instructions manually. First bricked it, but hey, it works now ;-) | Jul 25 14:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Anyway, it's a lot faster now and I was finally able to install BusyBox Doh! | Jul 25 14:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Time to Break up Big, Bad #Apple? - http://bit.ly/qN1yBt a huge success, but also a huge #patent bully. A Modest Proposal | Jul 25 14:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] notmart just popped up in irc sayng he was just at the epicenter of a magnitude 4.3 earthquake. zoinks. | Jul 25 14:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle deletes ex-Sun-CEO's blog (H): http://bit.ly/pA1oWu | Jul 25 14:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @openattitude Lubuntu officially joins the !Ubuntu family. | liliputing http://is.gd/uNf7UW | Jul 25 14:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Time Travel Impossible, Say Scientists (Discover):http://bit.ly/rsZZrx | Jul 25 14:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @eebrah Yup, in 2012 he'll run for office again... | Jul 25 14:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @kevie This is so cool, Tux is the new mascot for Aldi's Frosted Flakes http://ur1.ca/4s9pn | Jul 25 14:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Canada - EU Trade Deal Pushing Toward New Canadian Copyright Enforcement Bill - http://bit.ly/rcPTgQ EU behaving badly #acta | Jul 25 14:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft previews 'Juneau' SQL Server tools (Register): http://bit.ly/qs085K | Jul 25 14:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Ik kan opeens geen berichten meer van twitter ontvangen en versturen met Gwibber. Ach misschien is het ook maar beter zo ;-) | Jul 25 14:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Ik volg een aantal interessante Nederlandse FOSS people op Twitter. Misschien moeten die ook maar eens naar identi.ca komen :-p | Jul 25 15:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @kirschner: RT @greve A must read for anyone who wants to know the truth about software patents: http://is.gd/z5PAPy | Jul 25 15:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Lawyers in Hell – Book Review – Updated – July 25, 2011 http://bit.ly/omleJ6 #lawyersinhell #bookreview | Jul 25 15:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ALERTĂ ! Windows XP a devenit extrem de periculos pentru utilizatori http://tinyurl.com/3fnanfw #microsoft #windows #romania #software #pc | Jul 25 15:25 | |
schestowitz | the bot crashes? | Jul 25 15:27 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @planetdebian Steve McIntyre: Unofficial backport CDs now hosted on cdimage.debian.org - http://blog.einval.com/2011/07/25#kmuto_cd | Jul 25 15:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @meegoexperts How to setup a MeeGo Harmattan development environment in Linux http://mge.bz/gV #Linux #MeeGo #Harmattan #Qt #ScratchBox | Jul 25 15:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Windows is Losing Ground, Linux-Hostile/Intolerant Service Pack Kicks In http://ur1.ca/4s97c #gnu #linux #windows #windows7 | Jul 25 15:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] kde community is back on track for a 10k+ commit month; we slumped in Q1 for various factors, but we're back. | Jul 25 15:27 | |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/79644069 | Jul 25 15:27 |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/79644069 | Jul 25 15:27 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @qu1j0t3's status on Monday, 25-Jul-11 12:32:55 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Remember this guy? https://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/95383486365569024 | Jul 25 15:27 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @qu1j0t3: .@a_picazo Here's another European who tried to warn about violent islamophobia/xenophobia http://t.co/wvs7x64 @TheNation | Jul 25 15:27 |
schestowitz | Interesting. Well, the distinguisher which is cultural can be elusive. | Jul 25 15:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] esp nice since some commits that were tracked pre-git are no longer, so there is a loss of measured activity as well. | Jul 25 15:29 | |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/79648989 | Jul 25 15:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Monday, 25-Jul-11 13:53:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I fear 4 CentOS. M$, I guess, is trying to hijack it. | Jul 25 15:29 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79648989 | Jul 25 15:30 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Monday, 25-Jul-11 13:53:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I fear 4 CentOS. M$, I guess, is trying to hijack it. | Jul 25 15:30 |
schestowitz | Look what #openlogic (headed by Microsoft veteran) is doing with #centos | Jul 25 15:30 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/79649079 | Jul 25 15:31 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @agentsmith's status on Monday, 25-Jul-11 13:54:59 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Oh, oh, trying to extinguish fire with gasoline... | Jul 25 15:31 |
schestowitz | re #Google is Looking to Join the Patents #Cartel to Defend #Android http://ur1.ca/4s9ry #linux #apple #notel #microsoft #swpats | Jul 25 15:31 |
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schestowitz | I see even Florian has something to say https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/95446582333419520 | Jul 25 15:32 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz you obviously didn't mention that great patent-skeptical BBC article ("Are patents good for you?") since you don't trust them | Jul 25 15:32 |
schestowitz | I did not even see the article. A lot of what I get is "software patents" in Google News and the swpats hashtag, Benjamin, etc. | Jul 25 15:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Pessoal, estou tendo terríveis problemas com CD's descascados. Alguém teria alguma dica ??? | Jul 25 15:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Tell your representative: Stop the Extinction Rider! http://ur1.ca/4sbsk @CREDOMobile | Jul 25 15:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Folks, I'm having serious problems with fungus on CD's. Any hints on how to prevent it ??? | Jul 25 15:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Australian Ambassador: Tobacco Packaging Legislation Does Not Violate TRIPS - http://bit.ly/mR9S6H would be absurd otherwise | Jul 25 15:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I thought Lucian Freud died a couple of years ago. | Jul 25 15:34 | |
ender_33 | http://qubitarkhive.com/2011/07/25/open-letter-to-canadian-prime-minister-step-hen-harper/ | Jul 25 15:34 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Drug prices to plummet in wave of expiring #patents - http://bit.ly/oY7BZA "reduce no. jeopardizing their health cos can't afford medicine." | Jul 25 15:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Mainstream Press is Turning Against Software Patents http://tinyurl.com/3ll7yfl #ip #patents #eu #swpats #romania #software #microsoft #pc | Jul 25 15:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google Maps: To get to Taiwan from China, you must swim (see step 48): http://bit.ly/oo2mZV | Jul 25 15:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Accessing UK council information - http://bit.ly/n6lXaq who's on the naughty step? (v @newsbrooke) #ogov #opendata | Jul 25 15:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana ...but if you think #swpats promote innovation, you'd better read this article. It's sickening. http://is.gd/z5PAPy | Jul 25 15:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @mosborne01 @lightweight Ooooh... I feel a bit sick after reading that #swpats article. | Jul 25 15:54 | |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/95501901482819585 | Jul 25 15:55 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz OK, sorry, I thought you had purposely ignored it to continue to make BBC part of conspiracy theories. http://t.co/ZPgeFdY | Jul 25 15:55 |
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schestowitz | Who said anything about conspiracy theories? | Jul 25 15:55 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Intellectual property is the next software." ~Nathan Myhrvold, #Microsoft patent troll, funded and bred by Bill Gates http://ur1.ca/4sbyv | Jul 25 15:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] yay! synchrotron is going to find a home on a kde server at long last. javascript updates at runtime, api dox on demand! | Jul 25 15:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] .. too late for the 4.7 release, but should be integrated for 4.8 | Jul 25 15:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes show notes are out http://ur1.ca/4sbzb “The Grilling! ;)” - GNU/Linux and Mac OS X http://ur1.ca/4sbzj | Jul 25 15:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bytesmedia/@bytesmedia] TechBytes show notes are out http://ur1.ca/4sbzb “The Grilling! ;)” - GNU/Linux and Mac OS X http://ur1.ca/4sbzj | Jul 25 15:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @meegoexperts Packed Media Widget – Homescreen widget – Maemo http://mge.bz/gX #Nokia #N900 #Maemo | Jul 25 16:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !miners ♺ @sixgun: Just released Bunch of Creepers 8 - The Presidential Suite > http://sixgun.org/creepers/8 | Jul 25 16:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Tell #Senate #Republicans: It's crazy to cut #Medicare and #SocialSecurity http://ur1.ca/4sbzo | Jul 25 16:04 | |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/95508375294578688 | Jul 25 16:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz I thought you doubted BBC's neutrality many times | Jul 25 16:09 |
schestowitz | doubt!=conspiracy theories. The BBC's neutrality is doubted by a lot of the British public. | Jul 25 16:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Businesses providing Wi-Fi could get #piracy warnings - http://bit.ly/oScwpJ "could"? (v @Copycense @ballard_ip) | Jul 25 16:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody #Canada - EU Trade Deal Pushing Toward New Canadian Copyright Enforcement Bill - http://bit.ly/rcPTgQ EU behaving badly #acta | Jul 25 16:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes show notes are out http://ur1.ca/4sbzb “The Grilling! ;)” - GNU/Linux and Mac OS X http://ur1.ca/4sbzj | Jul 25 16:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trying #Kubuntu 11.04 http://ur1.ca/4sc40 I'll try giving unity a go, hopefully. #ubuntu | Jul 25 16:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Moved to #Fluxbox http://ur1.ca/4sc49 runs on my laptop with just 32 MB of RAM | Jul 25 16:19 | |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/95511808726667265 | Jul 25 16:20 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz but does a lot of the British public believe they're under the control by one particular corporation? ;-) | Jul 25 16:20 |
schestowitz | Corporate media is not " particular corporation", it is a network of businesses. The BBC and Guardian both receive millions in contributions from Bill Gates. | Jul 25 16:21 |
schestowitz | He is trying to use the "conspiracy"label to daemonise me | Jul 25 16:21 |
schestowitz | Because I call him a lobbyist\ | Jul 25 16:21 |
schestowitz | Which is what he is these days | Jul 25 16:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ask Fedora – 24-7 http://ur1.ca/4sc59 "Enter the world of Ask Fedora. Of course this is just a test instance for feedback." | Jul 25 16:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle gives sneak peek at MySQL 5.6 features (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/nsvhEe | Jul 25 16:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] One Life peddles one big lie - http://bit.ly/rpTk7P and David Cox peddles easy and pointless cynicism... | Jul 25 16:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] The metro in Sofia clearly beats all other forms of public transport. #win But why handicapped seating if there are no elevators? #fail | Jul 25 16:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sabayon 6 GNOME review http://ur1.ca/4sc5v "Chromium is the only Web browser installed" | Jul 25 16:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear government officials, don't try to photoshop yourselves out of a mess, Teh Intertubes will be merciless ur1.ca/4sc6a ur1.ca/4sc6b | Jul 25 16:29 | |
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ender_33 | ROFL | Jul 25 16:43 |
ender_33 | ""Snit"s main assignment from Microsoft is to constantly post in COLA that Linux is difficult to use because the various apps don't conform to one single UI style." | Jul 25 16:43 |
Snit | Ender: how and where can I collect my pay from them? | Jul 25 16:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @greve obviously they employ iterative development. today: seating. tomorrow: ways to get to seats. ;) | Jul 25 16:45 | |
gnufreex | Like most western media, BBC is propaganda whore: they promote those who pay most. | Jul 25 16:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An Australian Analysis of the February 2011 Leaked US #TPPA IP Chapter Text - copyright & enforcement - http://bit.ly/qpiihj excellent #acta | Jul 25 16:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @hgfernan !listening Hope by Kendra Springer http://bit.ly/i4o6hI #piano #instrumental #romantic #meditative #soothing !jamendo | Jul 25 17:00 | |
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ender_33 | Snit - I've been asking msb for a while | Jul 25 17:02 |
ender_33 | LOL | Jul 25 17:02 |
ender_33 | I believe in genetic engineering neanderthallers and I believe hes nuts | Jul 25 17:02 |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/95514492779245568 | Jul 25 17:04 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @FOSSpatents: @schestowitz if so, then their articles on the patent troll problem are a sign of independence from such (possible) contributions | Jul 25 17:04 |
schestowitz | Fox too has a liberal contributor, so? | Jul 25 17:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Change Isn’t Always Bad for L#inux http://ur1.ca/4scdt "Mac users who don’t like the Lion changes don’t have that same kind of latitude." | Jul 25 17:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Pakistan government is implementing a programme to develop #opensource software - http://bit.ly/nepJ1R great news | Jul 25 17:05 | |
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schestowitz | gnufreex: usually the left | Jul 25 17:07 |
schestowitz | People I know here say so too | Jul 25 17:07 |
schestowitz | I prefer left to right | Jul 25 17:07 |
schestowitz | But that's the political aspect of the BBC | Jul 25 17:07 |
schestowitz | Which is even more controversial than tech | Jul 25 17:08 |
schestowitz | hi, jbeatty | Jul 25 17:08 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: Did you watch BBC documentary about Muhammad? It is white washing. Sheiks must have paid. | Jul 25 17:09 |
ender_33 | http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=16155 | Jul 25 17:11 |
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jbeatty | schestowitz hi | Jul 25 17:13 |
jbeatty | I'm conflicted about Pakistan switching to "open source" | Jul 25 17:14 |
jbeatty | they clearly don't care about freedom, so we have to be careful to not see them as "our cause" winning out | Jul 25 17:14 |
ender_33 | http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-07-genetic-non-africans-neanderthal.html | Jul 25 17:17 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @schestowitz ♺ @carlopiana ...but if you think #swpats promote innovation, you'd better read this article. It's sickening. http://is. ... | Jul 25 17:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ingres has a new CEO, Steve Shine: http://bit.ly/nRylzk | Jul 25 17:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Critical Vulnerabilities in Facebook and Picasa discovered by Microsoft http://tinyurl.com/3htkocg ---> Anyone see the irony here? | Jul 25 17:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Maybe if Microsoft showed the same diligence dealing with its own products, we wouldn't have some of the problems we do today. | Jul 25 17:25 | |
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schestowitz | gnufreex: I think I watched one about Islam | Jul 25 17:27 |
schestowitz | Very positive about the culture | Jul 25 17:27 |
schestowitz | But I think they are appeasers | Jul 25 17:27 |
schestowitz | ANd I don't see much harm in this | Jul 25 17:27 |
schestowitz | Those who incite hate are the ones I worry about | Jul 25 17:27 |
schestowitz | Not the Chamberlains | Jul 25 17:27 |
schestowitz | jbeatty: I haven't written about that for years | Jul 25 17:28 |
schestowitz | IIRC they considered OLPC | Jul 25 17:28 |
schestowitz | Not heard of that since | Jul 25 17:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Theres an unofficial IRC channel for Google+ - You can find it on Freenode.net - ##googleplus | Jul 25 17:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110725 #sip_and_click | Jul 25 17:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 6 wonders of #CentOS 6.0 http://ur1.ca/4sci8 #redhat | Jul 25 17:29 | |
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gnufreex | schestowitz: I see much harm in that. It is like being positive towards Nazi culture. It is same thing, just masked as religion. Telling people truth is not inciting hate. You can't apprease people whose mission is to invade you and kill you. I am with Geert Wilders on that. | Jul 25 17:31 |
msb | gnufreex: It's been Americans, Brits and Israelis who've been invading Islamic countries and killing people by the millions since 1990. | Jul 25 17:34 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: what were the motive of the l00n from Norway? | Jul 25 17:35 |
schestowitz | AFAIK, the issue in northern Europe is that they have low birth rates and massive immigration rates | Jul 25 17:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sea Shepherd Emergency SOS still in effect - More action needed! - http://on.fb.me/ndy6OR looks bad (v @BiellaColeman) | Jul 25 17:35 | |
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schestowitz | Some of them blame some parties for being open to this | Jul 25 17:36 |
schestowitz | msb: what about the other Western nations that are also oil beneficiaries? | Jul 25 17:36 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: Norwegian guy targeted Leftist youth because leftist appreases Islam and demonze critics as Nazis. | Jul 25 17:36 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: I don't support that. | Jul 25 17:37 |
gnufreex | But it is again about Islam | Jul 25 17:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft and SUSE renew partnership (Microsoft): http://bit.ly/pu1Cnx | Jul 25 17:37 | |
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gnufreex | msb: That are fake greavences. | Jul 25 17:37 |
msb | schestowitz: Buying oil from countries that have it is fine. It's invading and murdering that's the problem. Or maybe I didn't understand your question. | Jul 25 17:38 |
msb | gnufreex: What are fake grievances? | Jul 25 17:38 |
schestowitz | sometims the "lunattic nation" needs to flex a muscle | Jul 25 17:38 |
gnufreex | msb: Iraq, Afganistan, and such | Jul 25 17:39 |
schestowitz | it's a tactic the mafia uses too | Jul 25 17:39 |
schestowitz | Like shooting someone to death | Jul 25 17:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux all-in-one phone and computer so near, so far http://ur1.ca/4sckp David Williams is back, which is great news. He's *very* good. | Jul 25 17:39 | |
schestowitz | It reinforces its status as 'alpha nation' | Jul 25 17:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jul 25 17:39 |
schestowitz | Shock and Awe is you will... like fireworks show with real ammunition | Jul 25 17:39 |
schestowitz | Many cameras, lots of angles, to capture the event/ceremony | Jul 25 17:39 |
schestowitz | !google outkast bomb over baghdad | Jul 25 17:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - OutKast - B.O.B. - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DfVyVIsvQoaE | Jul 25 17:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - B.O.B. (song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.O.B._(song) | Jul 25 17:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Dailymotion - Outkast - Bombs Over Baghdad - a Music video | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x12pk3_outkast-bombs-over-baghdad_music | Jul 25 17:39 |
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msb | gnufreex: Are you saying that the US, England, and Israel invading Moslem countries and murdering millions of people is not a bad thing? | Jul 25 17:40 |
schestowitz | That's politics for them | Jul 25 17:40 |
schestowitz | Attacking each other | Jul 25 17:40 |
schestowitz | Even if just to have an angle | Jul 25 17:40 |
schestowitz | "Wartime" president | Jul 25 17:41 |
schestowitz | Assurance of reelection | Jul 25 17:41 |
schestowitz | "Carry on defending us, mr. pres" | Jul 25 17:41 |
schestowitz | "Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." Henry Kissinger | Jul 25 17:41 |
msb | Those "wars" have made trillions of dollars in profits, too. | Jul 25 17:41 |
gnufreex | msb: Muslims goal is to destroy all other religions, it is written in Quran and that is God given for them. They are allowed to lie, kill, enslave, and do anything to non-muslims as long as it help spread of Islam. To look like victim, they use fake greavences. | Jul 25 17:41 |
schestowitz | Nobel peace prize winner LOL | Jul 25 17:42 |
msb | gnufreex: So you're saying that being invaded and having millions of people murdered is a "fake grievance"? | Jul 25 17:42 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: Muslims I know are OK (there are many exceptions that are radivcal in a billion) | Jul 25 17:43 |
schestowitz | What I find hard to reconcile is the religion part | Jul 25 17:43 |
schestowitz | Like thinking of apocalypse, Hell, abusing women.. | Jul 25 17:43 |
schestowitz | Not all people practice those views, though | Jul 25 17:43 |
schestowitz | Some Arabs are secular(ish) Christians | Jul 25 17:44 |
msb | And genital mutilation by Jews and Moslems. | Jul 25 17:44 |
gnufreex | msb: I don't support USA in any way, but I am sure that Muslims would continue killing even if there was no Afganistan and Iraq war. | Jul 25 17:44 |
schestowitz | So I think the solution is to draw them towards moderatiomn | Jul 25 17:44 |
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schestowitz | To the point where it's just a cultueral thing at best and now a way of life | Jul 25 17:44 |
schestowitz | In Norway I reckon the immigrants reproduce like rabbits while most familys have 0 o 1 kids | Jul 25 17:44 |
schestowitz | So the l00n who slaughters those kids may have killed the only child in like 8 families | Jul 25 17:45 |
schestowitz | *80 | Jul 25 17:45 |
msb | US Christians have been killing many times more people than Moslems in the last few decades. They just don't use religion as a motive. | Jul 25 17:45 |
jbeatty | the solution is to eliminate violent and backwards religion with reason and education | Jul 25 17:45 |
schestowitz | No inheritance for labour (Labour) parents | Jul 25 17:45 |
schestowitz | Or succession rather | Jul 25 17:45 |
gnufreex | msb: You can't use Christianity as motive for murder, it is oxymoron. | Jul 25 17:45 |
schestowitz | jbeatty: yes | Jul 25 17:45 |
schestowitz | That's what I believe would work, helping people see for themselves that the story they are told is kind of infantile | Jul 25 17:46 |
schestowitz | It's not abrasive eiyther | Jul 25 17:46 |
schestowitz | It's cooperative | Jul 25 17:46 |
msb | So the US, England and Israel do false-flag terrorism and use that as the false pretext for invasion and mass murder. | Jul 25 17:47 |
schestowitz | In the UK it's already extremely unpopular to be anti-gay | Jul 25 17:47 |
schestowitz | 10 years ago it was a different story | Jul 25 17:47 |
msb | The point is that those countries have murdered far more people than Moslems have. | Jul 25 17:47 |
schestowitz | We got indoctrinated, but I guess fewer people suffer now, so it's all for the better | Jul 25 17:47 |
schestowitz | msb: they have better firearms | Jul 25 17:48 |
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gnufreex | [18:43:54] <jbeatty> the solution is to eliminate violent and backwards religion with reason and education | Jul 25 17:48 |
gnufreex | You can't do that. That is just excuse for muslim countries to ask money from west. The more educated muslim is more zelous. Bin Laden was rich and educated. | Jul 25 17:48 |
schestowitz | If some rogue nations (yes, some are very rogue) had "the bomb", do you reckon they would not just dump em on someone? | Jul 25 17:48 |
schestowitz | They have a different view on life and death (or life after death) | Jul 25 17:49 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: he means "edcucated" not in the academic sense | Jul 25 17:49 |
msb | Bin Laden was hired by the CIA in the 1980s to lead the Mujahideen to attack the secular govt of Afghanistan to harass the USSR. | Jul 25 17:49 |
schestowitz | I know a lady here who married my colleague after she was Muslim and drew away | Jul 25 17:50 |
schestowitz | Needless to say, her family objected and she moved to NZ | Jul 25 17:50 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: Muslims will only ever leave islam for another religion. They will never go atheist. | Jul 25 17:50 |
schestowitz | You don't hear about those | Jul 25 17:50 |
gnufreex | So education doesn't help | Jul 25 17:50 |
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schestowitz | And I can share some youtube videos about this observation | Jul 25 17:50 |
schestowitz | People who leave this religion are afraid to announce it | Jul 25 17:50 |
gnufreex | !google father Zakaria Boutros | Jul 25 17:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Father Zakaria | http://www.fatherzakaria.net/ | Jul 25 17:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - الموقع الرسمى للقمص زكريا بطرس | http://www.islam-christianity.net/ | Jul 25 17:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - YouTube - Father Zakaria Boutros about reaching the Muslims with ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DzfRWGVZMnxQ | Jul 25 17:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Zakaria Botros - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakaria_Botros | Jul 25 17:50 |
schestowitz | Because it's not just frowned upon, it's a death risk | Jul 25 17:50 |
schestowitz | So basically, don't assume it's a one-way street. We need to use reason. | Jul 25 17:51 |
gnufreex | msb: True. | Jul 25 17:51 |
schestowitz | msb mentioned things that US corporate press is trying to not mention | Jul 25 17:52 |
schestowitz | Lie by omission | Jul 25 17:52 |
msb | Those militant moslems armed trained and financed by the US CIA are now what are called "Al-Qaeda". | Jul 25 17:52 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: vis-a vis.. | Jul 25 17:53 |
schestowitz | I got a phecall an hour ago | Jul 25 17:53 |
schestowitz | Which made me upset | Jul 25 17:53 |
msb | The US created that enemy because the USSR was no longer available as THE ENEMY. | Jul 25 17:53 |
schestowitz | I am being encouraged not to speak outside the technical field in a field trip we have Wednesday | Jul 25 17:53 |
schestowitz | Becuase "my opinion might upset someone" | Jul 25 17:54 |
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msb | The US, England, and Israel must always have THE ENEMY. | Jul 25 17:54 |
schestowitz | It's a request for self-censorship | Jul 25 17:54 |
gnufreex | [18:49:17] <schestowitz> People who leave this religion are afraid to announce it | Jul 25 17:54 |
gnufreex | True, because Quran teaches that apostates should be killed. And | Jul 25 17:54 |
schestowitz | Actually, the original call was asking me to cancel this in order to avoid these conversations | Jul 25 17:54 |
schestowitz | Then it softened to "don't talk about [..]" | Jul 25 17:54 |
msb | schestowitz: Field trip of your imaging group? | Jul 25 17:54 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: Ok, no problem | Jul 25 17:55 |
schestowitz | [17:54] <msb> The US, England, and Israel must always have THE ENEMY. | Jul 25 17:55 |
schestowitz | When they, don't the real enemy is seen | Jul 25 17:55 |
schestowitz | And it's internal | Jul 25 17:55 |
schestowitz | Not external | Jul 25 17:55 |
schestowitz | People like Murdoch, Trump, Icahn.. | Jul 25 17:55 |
msb | The banksters and other ultra-wealthy sociopaths. | Jul 25 17:55 |
gnufreex | msb: No, that enemy exist for 1400 years. it is older than usa. | Jul 25 17:56 |
schestowitz | THe politicians ensure these issues are taken off the table and replaces by "more urgent" issues like woman drwoing a kid in a bathtub | Jul 25 17:56 |
schestowitz | While 40,000 per year die needlessly fdue to the heal;thcare cartel | Jul 25 17:56 |
schestowitz | which enemy? | Jul 25 17:56 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: ^ | Jul 25 17:57 |
schestowitz | barbarism in general | Jul 25 17:57 |
schestowitz | ? | Jul 25 17:57 |
schestowitz | !google "Return to barbarism" | Jul 25 17:57 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Return to Barbarism - Research - Chalcedon | http://chalcedon.edu/research/articles/the-return-to-barbarism/ | Jul 25 17:57 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Return To Barbarism Acts 1616-34 - All Saints Homilies - Ancient ... | http://ancientfaith.com/podcasts/allsaints/return_to_barbarism_acts_1616-34 | Jul 25 17:57 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - definition of barbarism from Oxford Dictionaries Online | http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/barbarism | Jul 25 17:57 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Return to Barbarism<product> <article-title>Habits of the ... | http://www.jstor.org/stable/4227159 | Jul 25 17:57 |
msb | The banking cartel plus European royalty plus the Vatican have together controlled many nations for a long time. | Jul 25 17:59 |
gnufreex | [18:55:31] <schestowitz> which enemy? | Jul 25 17:59 |
gnufreex | no, I meant Islamic terrorism. | Jul 25 17:59 |
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schestowitz | msb: Vativan too? Got links? | Jul 25 18:01 |
schestowitz | IIRC, there was a major financial scandal around them recently, but they don't have trillions in cap, do they? | Jul 25 18:01 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: I don't think so | Jul 25 18:02 |
schestowitz | Remember that many things we enjoy today came from the Arab world | Jul 25 18:02 |
schestowitz | Star names, algebra (not calculus), some early technology | Jul 25 18:02 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: No it didn't. It came from nations that Arabs enslaved. | Jul 25 18:02 |
schestowitz | I don't think the religion is what ended it | Jul 25 18:02 |
gnufreex | Algrebra is assyrian invention | Jul 25 18:02 |
schestowitz | Maybe in the future what the US does today will be remembered by China/Asia as the barbarism of yesterday | Jul 25 18:03 |
schestowitz | China has not assaulted militarily any large nations recently | Jul 25 18:03 |
schestowitz | Tibet is not a full-scale war | Jul 25 18:03 |
schestowitz | And remember which one nation dropped nukes | Jul 25 18:03 |
msb | I think the Vatican was more involved in the past than they are now. | Jul 25 18:03 |
schestowitz | My cousin was there last month | Jul 25 18:04 |
msb | Funny how so many stars have Arabic names. | Jul 25 18:04 |
schestowitz | Pretty aamazing photos | Jul 25 18:04 |
schestowitz | These people are loaded, fooling many people to give a part of their wage | Jul 25 18:04 |
schestowitz | I guess God *Does* love money.. and needs it... to collect it via his servaNTS | Jul 25 18:04 |
schestowitz | msb: but I agree with gnufreex that the religious core of this one religious can justidy bad behaviour | Jul 25 18:05 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: What you said (arab inventions) are things that pro-muslim lefist push. They lie in order to whitewash islam. All things that are considered Islamic inventions are in fact older than Islam itself, and were part of either of pre-Islamic (pagan) arabia, or were part of non-islamic nations that Arabs concuered. | Jul 25 18:05 |
schestowitz | Christianism is benign by comparison, hard to find justification in the new testament for manslaughter | Jul 25 18:06 |
gnufreex | For example, Persian inventions were from time of Zoroastrianism. | Jul 25 18:06 |
gnufreex | When Arabs conquered it, it went to stand still | Jul 25 18:06 |
schestowitz | My understanding is that Islam is what ended Arabic leadershp the world | Jul 25 18:06 |
schestowitz | Post-Roman/Greco dominance | Jul 25 18:06 |
msb | But US Christians and Jews have been murdering millions of people!!! The leaders give the orders and the sheeple obey. | Jul 25 18:07 |
schestowitz | Capitalism | Jul 25 18:07 |
schestowitz | It helps raise kids | Jul 25 18:07 |
msb | Capitalism is a much more murderous religion than Islam. | Jul 25 18:08 |
schestowitz | And they have better weapons so risk of death is low | Jul 25 18:08 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: yes. Islam destroys culture, because it teaches there is nothing other than islam. For example, Talibans blown up Budda statues to erase Buddhist past of Afganistan. | Jul 25 18:08 |
schestowitz | Most deaths needn't involve shoving a dagger into teens | Jul 25 18:08 |
schestowitz | It's done remotely, like a computer game | Jul 25 18:08 |
schestowitz | b52s, tomahawk, RPG... | Jul 25 18:08 |
schestowitz | And there are many games like these on the market | Jul 25 18:08 |
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schestowitz | Providing training and fantasy | Jul 25 18:09 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: Another example, Albanians are destroying 1000yo Serbian monastiries on kosovo in order to claim that it was always islamic. | Jul 25 18:09 |
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schestowitz | but don't mix race (DNA) and religion | Jul 25 18:13 |
schestowitz | One can change, the other cannot | Jul 25 18:13 |
schestowitz | Which is why for example criticising Microsoft is not like hate speech | Jul 25 18:13 |
schestowitz | People can leave Microsoft | Jul 25 18:13 |
schestowitz | They can also abandon a particular dogma | Jul 25 18:13 |
Diablo-D3 | bullshit | Jul 25 18:14 |
Diablo-D3 | your race can change | Jul 25 18:14 |
Diablo-D3 | ask micheal jackson | Jul 25 18:14 |
Diablo-D3 | dohohohohohoho | Jul 25 18:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] and dear !lazyweb, is it possible to restore only contacts from my full-backup of !n900 !maemo?.. | Jul 25 18:15 | |
schestowitz | he's dead now.. | Jul 25 18:16 |
schestowitz | too many chemicals didn't mix well | Jul 25 18:17 |
msb | This is one of the best videos I've ever seen on who is ruling the world and how they're doing it, and have been for centuries. Please watch it! About one hour long. Best to download it and watch it using mplayer so you can control the brightness etc, single step in places. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLj-2IJ4pdk | Jul 25 18:17 |
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gnufreex | [19:12:07] <schestowitz> One can change, the other cannot | Jul 25 18:17 |
gnufreex | True. Criticizing religion is not racism. Religion can be changed. So it is stupid when someone says that criticizing islam is racist. | Jul 25 18:17 |
MinceR | i thought it was stupid because religion is not race. :> | Jul 25 18:17 |
schestowitz | msb: ok, let's see | Jul 25 18:17 |
ender_33 | 12:41 < gnufreex> msb: Muslims goal is to destroy all other religions, it is written in Quran and that is God given for them. They are allowed to lie, kill, enslave, and do anything to non-muslims as long as it help spread of Islam. To look like victim, they use fake greavences. | Jul 25 18:17 |
MinceR | sounds just like scientology | Jul 25 18:17 |
ender_33 | Many religions carry that 'outsiders are evil' stipulation | Jul 25 18:17 |
schestowitz | gnufreex: it's not racist | Jul 25 18:17 |
schestowitz | It's a game against critics | Jul 25 18:18 |
schestowitz | Religion can be moicked as it's usually not correct | Jul 25 18:18 |
MinceR | ender_33: that's no excuse though | Jul 25 18:18 |
schestowitz | You cannot forbid pointing out flasehoods | Jul 25 18:18 |
gnufreex | ender_33: Yes, but no religion makes it as sharp as Islam. | Jul 25 18:18 |
schestowitz | Racism is against something people cannot change | Jul 25 18:18 |
schestowitz | Examples: | Jul 25 18:18 |
schestowitz | Do not tell a black person something about race | Jul 25 18:18 |
schestowitz | However to tell something about lifestyle is not racist | Jul 25 18:19 |
schestowitz | Some people afraid of the latter being interpreted as a race stereotype | Jul 25 18:19 |
gnufreex | ender_33: Read this http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm | Jul 25 18:19 |
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schestowitz | As if having a race necessitates the acts or vice versa | Jul 25 18:19 |
msb | "Christians" murdered millions of pagans -- often of Goddess religion -- in the witch hunts / inquisitions. | Jul 25 18:19 |
schestowitz | [18:17] <ender_33> Many religions carry that 'outsiders are evil' stipulation | Jul 25 18:20 |
schestowitz | And reproduce aplenty | Jul 25 18:20 |
schestowitz | If not by convertion then by reproduction | Jul 25 18:20 |
schestowitz | But Islam radicalises a bit with apostasy | Jul 25 18:20 |
msb | Judaism, "Christianity", and Islam are very similar in their basic beliefs. | Jul 25 18:20 |
schestowitz | Monotheism | Jul 25 18:21 |
gnufreex | msb: no, they are not | Jul 25 18:21 |
schestowitz | Peronally, I like multiple Gods more | Jul 25 18:21 |
msb | A male god who demands worship, and orders his followers to murder anyone who refuses to worship him. | Jul 25 18:21 |
schestowitz | They're more fun | Jul 25 18:21 |
schestowitz | Like Gods arguing | Jul 25 18:21 |
schestowitz | Some are female | Jul 25 18:21 |
schestowitz | And looking kind of foxy | Jul 25 18:21 |
schestowitz | But the consensus now is thar there is only one | Jul 25 18:21 |
gnufreex | msb: Christinity doesn't allow murder in any case. | Jul 25 18:21 |
schestowitz | Maybe in my lifetime the consensus will be 0 Gods | Jul 25 18:22 |
msb | gnufreex: ever hear of the Inquisitions, or the Thirty Years War? | Jul 25 18:22 |
schestowitz | msb: so far the video is reasonable | Jul 25 18:22 |
schestowitz | 3 mins | Jul 25 18:22 |
schestowitz | I will point out bad points | Jul 25 18:22 |
gnufreex | msb: Yes I heard that, but that is not what chrisitanity teaches. Pope ordered that, so it is a sin of Catolicism only. | Jul 25 18:23 |
schestowitz | it's kind of abstract new age | Jul 25 18:23 |
schestowitz | No clear messages so far... fluff and quotes | Jul 25 18:23 |
schestowitz | LOL | Jul 25 18:23 |
schestowitz | Now they show illuminati eye... *sigh* | Jul 25 18:23 |
gnufreex | msb: Btw, many non-catholic churches view Pope as an Anti-Christ because he claims he is infallable. | Jul 25 18:23 |
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schestowitz | They have compeittion | Jul 25 18:24 |
schestowitz | The Pope is like the Microsoft of Catholism | Jul 25 18:24 |
gnufreex | msb: Protestants called Pope an AntiChrist, and Ortodox church too. | Jul 25 18:24 |
gnufreex | infallability of the pope is not natively Christian concept | Jul 25 18:24 |
ender_33 | 12:55 < gnufreex> msb: No, that enemy exist for 1400 years. it is older than usa. | Jul 25 18:24 |
ender_33 | Older than Islam too | Jul 25 18:24 |
schestowitz | They branch out into other groups and factions | Jul 25 18:24 |
ender_33 | 12:58 < msb> The banking cartel plus European royalty plus the Vatican have together controlled many nations for a long time. | Jul 25 18:25 |
ender_33 | +1 | Jul 25 18:25 |
msb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War -- protestants and catholics fighting. | Jul 25 18:25 |
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gnufreex | msb: I know about that, and I know about Sack of Constantinopole. I blame the pope for both. | Jul 25 18:26 |
ender_33 | its not limited to us, uk and israel | Jul 25 18:26 |
ender_33 | those who control the vatican are older | Jul 25 18:26 |
msb | ender_33: I meant us uk and israel recently, since 1990. | Jul 25 18:27 |
ender_33 | 13:02 < schestowitz> China has not assaulted militarily any large nations recently | Jul 25 18:27 |
msb | ender_33: CHeck out that video, I think you'll like it. | Jul 25 18:28 |
ender_33 | yet they recently passed a lot making it easier to mobilize | Jul 25 18:28 |
ender_33 | ie taking the property of business for war | Jul 25 18:28 |
ender_33 | 13:04 < schestowitz> I guess God *Does* love money.. and needs it... to collect it via his servaNTS | Jul 25 18:28 |
schestowitz | msb: they need citations | Jul 25 18:28 |
ender_33 | neanderthallers = deans of dollars (they are accumulators) | Jul 25 18:29 |
schestowitz | No way to validate claims | Jul 25 18:29 |
ender_33 | servANTS | Jul 25 18:29 |
schestowitz | A lot of the rest of obvious | Jul 25 18:29 |
schestowitz | They make clear observation and then sneak in dubious stuff I cannot verify as it may not be true | Jul 25 18:29 |
msb | THis video is very good too: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4788106431016278751 | Jul 25 18:31 |
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msb | Also this one about the history of banking -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU | Jul 25 18:33 |
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schestowitz | Ah.... | Jul 25 18:33 |
schestowitz | Now the video blames bankers for wars | Jul 25 18:33 |
schestowitz | I know *that* fallacy | Jul 25 18:33 |
msb | They control major Western govts and have financed both sides of some wars. | Jul 25 18:34 |
schestowitz | Now he says "banksters" | Jul 25 18:36 |
schestowitz | Seems like the video just goes towards blaming bankers for wars | Jul 25 18:37 |
schestowitz | Some of the wars were not unnecessary | Jul 25 18:37 |
schestowitz | Negotiations don't always work | Jul 25 18:37 |
schestowitz | See what happened in Cambodia | Jul 25 18:37 |
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schestowitz | Then the connection attempts between West and Nzais | Jul 25 18:38 |
schestowitz | far fetched and weakly linked | Jul 25 18:38 |
msb | Didn't Cambodia happen because of the US Vietnam War? | Jul 25 18:38 |
schestowitz | DOn't think so | Jul 25 18:39 |
schestowitz | You need to explain how so | Jul 25 18:39 |
msb | Which was to prevent socialism and loss of profits to American business. | Jul 25 18:39 |
msb | IIRC, Prince Sihanouk was destabilized. | Jul 25 18:39 |
schestowitz | It was the war on communism | Jul 25 18:40 |
schestowitz | But I think there was already a bloody war | Jul 25 18:40 |
schestowitz | tessier would know this better than we do | Jul 25 18:40 |
tessier | I don't think Cambodia happened because of the US Vietnam war. | Jul 25 18:40 |
tessier | Pol Pot would have been a butter either way. Trying to impose his own kind of soclialism. | Jul 25 18:41 |
tessier | socialism | Jul 25 18:41 |
schestowitz | msb: the video you linked to tries to blame bankers for all wars | Jul 25 18:41 |
msb | Wiki: "The Vietnam War extended into Cambodia, giving rise to the Khmer Rouge, which took Phnom Penh in 1975." | Jul 25 18:41 |
tessier | Although if the US had somehow scored an early win in Vietnam maybe it could have been prevented. As it was Vietnam went in and ended it themselves after the US war. | Jul 25 18:41 |
schestowitz | which wiki? | Jul 25 18:42 |
tessier | I don't see how that gave rise to the Khmer Rouge. | Jul 25 18:42 |
msb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodia | Jul 25 18:42 |
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schestowitz | msb: the video tries to blame 7/7 on government | Jul 25 18:44 |
schestowitz | Just because the bankers would manage to benefit | Jul 25 18:45 |
schestowitz | But this does not imply causality | Jul 25 18:45 |
schestowitz | If my mother dies, I might get money | Jul 25 18:45 |
schestowitz | This would not imply that I killed my mother | Jul 25 18:45 |
schestowitz | If an asteroid hits the US, it would make China more dominant | Jul 25 18:45 |
msb | Was that the one where a train was blown up, and the bomb could only have been planted in the guarded train yard? | Jul 25 18:45 |
schestowitz | This would not mean that the asteroid was Made by China{tm} | Jul 25 18:45 |
msb | Maybe a bus? | Jul 25 18:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] whoever took the group #cls11 photo on Sat, could mail it to me at jono AT ubuntu DOT com - thanks! | Jul 25 18:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Howdy, how's your week coming? | Jul 25 18:45 | |
schestowitz | arthquake in Haiti was exploited by ,many | Jul 25 18:46 |
schestowitz | This does not imply HAARP has something to do with it | Jul 25 18:46 |
msb | "[Sihanouk] was ousted by a military coup led by Prime Minister General Lon Nol and Prince Sisowath Sirik Matak, who had the support of the United States." | Jul 25 18:46 |
schestowitz | Just because the US exploited Bin Laden (like pointed out in the video you advoxcated) doesn't mean that he is still (was still, he's dead) under US control | Jul 25 18:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh man do I love #SSH and X-forwarding. it even works across multiple login hops (machine A to B, B to C...) :D | Jul 25 18:47 | |
msb | "journalist William Shawcross and Cambodia specialists Milton Osborne, David P. Chandler and Ben Kiernan argued that the bombing drove peasants to join the Khmer Rouge." | Jul 25 18:48 |
schestowitz | msb: I've close Konq qith the video | Jul 25 18:48 |
schestowitz | The video make moany claims | Jul 25 18:48 |
schestowitz | I was open in general, but they don't provide backing sufficient to actually be credible | Jul 25 18:48 |
schestowitz | And if they insinuate that 7/7 was "an inside job", then they totally fail by just looking at "who benefits" as the explanation | Jul 25 18:49 |
msb | Please watch it and the other videos I mentioned. They cover various aspects and give details. | Jul 25 18:49 |
schestowitz | To the bombers, the 73 virgins in 'heaven' are a benefit | Jul 25 18:49 |
schestowitz | So they missed the point | Jul 25 18:49 |
msb | What bombers? | Jul 25 18:49 |
schestowitz | msb: is the latter video better backed by arguments (never mind the evidence for now)? | Jul 25 18:50 |
schestowitz | Otherwise these just pollute my brain cells | Jul 25 18:50 |
schestowitz | msb: 7/7.. London | Jul 25 18:50 |
ender_33 | schestowitz - thats what Brain Dumbing is for ;) | Jul 25 18:50 |
schestowitz | no, he's OK | Jul 25 18:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Announcing… Text Camp 2011 - http://bit.ly/qnC3Ov "relationship between digital technologies and literature" #openknowledge #london | Jul 25 18:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Novacut Pro Video Editor - http://kck.st/ilkj81 open source project needs a bit more dosh on #kickstarter | Jul 25 18:50 | |
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ender_33 | He's one of the more silent B's | Jul 25 18:51 |
schestowitz | He makes more sense to me, he also provides decent evidebnce | Jul 25 18:51 |
ender_33 | he's like the welfare version of mythbusters but with weaker conclusions | Jul 25 18:51 |
schestowitz | I still don't know if he made up ** about Ike | Jul 25 18:51 |
schestowitz | But I gather he didn't | Jul 25 18:51 |
schestowitz | But he only focused on one thing | Jul 25 18:51 |
schestowitz | And also generalised | Jul 25 18:51 |
schestowitz | To imply conpiracy theorists all thing that alien raptoids are in government | Jul 25 18:52 |
schestowitz | So it was a silly and weak one from him... | Jul 25 18:52 |
schestowitz | Cheat shot of sorts | Jul 25 18:52 |
msb | schestowitz: The video I listed by David Icke has nothing to do with reptiles. | Jul 25 18:53 |
msb | It's very good. | Jul 25 18:53 |
schestowitz | http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2011/07/22/cote/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tecosystems+%28tecosystems%29 | Jul 25 18:53 |
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schestowitz | "Those of you who’ve worked with Cote over the last half decade plus understand this; we have yet to find a client that doesn’t love his unique brand of insight, self-deprecating humor and homespun wisdom. He’s been, in short, a perfect hire. Not bad for our first time out of the gate. Which is why we’re sad to be losing him. " | Jul 25 18:53 |
schestowitz | "You heard that correctly: one week from today is Cote’s last day as a ‘Monk. " | Jul 25 18:54 |
schestowitz | The money from Redmond wasn't enough for Redmonk | Jul 25 18:54 |
schestowitz | I was always a bit sceptical about them | Jul 25 18:54 |
schestowitz | msb: no, I was mentioning skeptoid | Jul 25 18:54 |
msb | Re 7/7 -- the bombs were placed under some of the vehicles which could only have been done in the guarded trainyard. | Jul 25 18:54 |
schestowitz | http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4264 | Jul 25 18:55 |
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schestowitz | It's an audiocast | Jul 25 18:55 |
schestowitz | msb: link? | Jul 25 18:56 |
msb | schestowitz: Did you read everything I just posted about Cambodia? Pol Pot regime was caused by the US supporting opposition that overthrew Sihanouk, and then by US bombing. | Jul 25 18:56 |
schestowitz | Notice that again, just like with your claims about 9/11, nobody who would supposedly be involved in a 'plot' blew the whistle, so it's unlikely to be substantiated | Jul 25 18:57 |
msb | The 911 stuff is absolutely proven by the physical evidence, which you simply refuse to accept. | Jul 25 18:57 |
schestowitz | cause it's not evidence | Jul 25 18:57 |
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msb | You accept the govt story on much poorer evidence. | Jul 25 18:58 |
schestowitz | A couple of people's mere words about seeing some metal is not proof of anything | Jul 25 18:58 |
schestowitz | And even if they saw such a thing, it would not imply what you suggest | Jul 25 18:58 |
schestowitz | [18:57] <msb> The 911 stuff is absolutely proven by the physical evidence, which you simply refuse to accept. | Jul 25 18:58 |
msb | The analysis of the thermite inthe dust implies the same thing. | Jul 25 18:58 |
schestowitz | The physical evidence we have are two massive planes crashing into 2 buildigns | Jul 25 18:58 |
MinceR | people who were involved didn't blow the whistle? well, i never! | Jul 25 18:58 |
schestowitz | Have the therorists yet made up some theory about the Norway thign being 'arranged by the govt'? | Jul 25 18:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Back in Portland after many years. Nice to see PDX is also now international airport. perhaps it was all along. #OSCON here I come. #fb | Jul 25 18:59 | |
msb | You accept the govt story on much poorer evidence. | Jul 25 18:59 |
schestowitz | [18:58] <msb> You accept the govt story on much poorer evidence. | Jul 25 18:59 |
schestowitz | It's not a governmnt story | Jul 25 18:59 |
schestowitz | It's the story my relatives saw | Jul 25 18:59 |
schestowitz | Two massive planes | Jul 25 18:59 |
schestowitz | 2 buildings | Jul 25 18:59 |
schestowitz | Bam | Jul 25 18:59 |
schestowitz | Buildings fall | Jul 25 18:59 |
schestowitz | That's evidence | Jul 25 18:59 |
schestowitz | It's not a "government story" | Jul 25 18:59 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: Breivik is Free Mason by his own admition. | Jul 25 18:59 |
msb | Roy, you are hopeless. | Jul 25 19:00 |
schestowitz | Yes, but so what? There are many other cults. | Jul 25 19:00 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: And see my last dent, there is video why he killled Leftist youth on that island. | Jul 25 19:00 |
schestowitz | msb: because I don't accept your plea to accept a poorly backed story? | Jul 25 19:00 |
schestowitz | IIRC, there are nearly 10 million freemasons | Jul 25 19:01 |
msb | schestowitz: It is very well backed. You just reject the evidence because you don't want to accept the conclusion that the US govt can be that evil. | Jul 25 19:01 |
schestowitz | one of them did something horrible | Jul 25 19:01 |
schestowitz | msb: no, I didn't say that | Jul 25 19:01 |
schestowitz | You change the implication pyramid | Jul 25 19:02 |
msb | schestowitz: Of course you didn't _say_ it. But it is what you are doing. | Jul 25 19:02 |
schestowitz | Just because I don't accept "govt. took the buildings down" does not imply "US can cannot be evil" | Jul 25 19:02 |
schestowitz | That's just dishonest debating teachnique | Jul 25 19:02 |
schestowitz | Either you're against Iraq of you're "a terrorist"? | Jul 25 19:02 |
schestowitz | Either you like carrots of you're "a terrorist"? | Jul 25 19:03 |
schestowitz | *or | Jul 25 19:03 |
msb | The reports of molten metal, the thermite analysis -- you say "they might be lying". But you don't say the govt might be lying. | Jul 25 19:03 |
schestowitz | msb: it's not what I'm doing,. | Jul 25 19:03 |
schestowitz | I didn't say these were lies | Jul 25 19:03 |
schestowitz | Maybe they believe it | Jul 25 19:03 |
schestowitz | But it doesn't imply what you suggest | Jul 25 19:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Producing culture in weak intellectual property environment - http://bit.ly/pyVzwQ good sense about thriving amidst abundance (v @mbauwens) | Jul 25 19:04 | |
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schestowitz | People who think they hovered about their body during surgery are not lying | Jul 25 19:04 |
msb | It implies that you are being irrational. | Jul 25 19:04 |
schestowitz | They are just short of oxygen, it's normal for this to happen in the brain | Jul 25 19:04 |
MinceR | "That's crazy. The government doesn't lie to people." | Jul 25 19:04 |
schestowitz | Here is a good new ep about it BTW http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4261 | Jul 25 19:05 |
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ender_33 | schestowitz - made up? | Jul 25 19:05 |
schestowitz | Same patterns of plea for junk claims | Jul 25 19:05 |
ender_33 | schestowitz - you ignore funding | Jul 25 19:05 |
schestowitz | Sot his applies here | Jul 25 19:05 |
msb | Does the sun rise in the East? "No -- people just think it does. You can't prove it. Where's the evidence." | Jul 25 19:05 |
schestowitz | WHat's east? | Jul 25 19:05 |
schestowitz | In absolute terms? | Jul 25 19:06 |
schestowitz | The Earth rotates in a certain direction now | Jul 25 19:06 |
msb | Why don't you apply the same objections to the govt story? | Jul 25 19:06 |
schestowitz | That might change after some billions of years if more objects enter the Solar System | Jul 25 19:06 |
msb | The planes hitting did not cause the towers to collapse. | Jul 25 19:06 |
schestowitz | 9/11 is not a "government story" | Jul 25 19:07 |
msb | The govt says it was the fire. | Jul 25 19:07 |
schestowitz | It's an event | Jul 25 19:07 |
schestowitz | Which is observable | Jul 25 19:07 |
schestowitz | You could theorise about whether the terrorists were assisted or let to do their thing | Jul 25 19:07 |
msb | The towers stayed up after the planes hit. | Jul 25 19:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] $283M Lobbying Cost; $62B Benefit; ROI = 22,000% - http://bit.ly/pN5czz #lobbying by numbers (v @EllnMllr) | Jul 25 19:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Watch the #OSCON live stream http://red.ht/r9Yz0l | Jul 25 19:07 | |
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schestowitz | But we already have eye evidence from many cameras that planed hit the builindg | Jul 25 19:07 |
schestowitz | There is no eye evidence of explosions inside, except maybe fuel tanks | Jul 25 19:08 |
msb | schestowitz: Are you baiting me because it's fun for you as you said once before? | Jul 25 19:08 |
schestowitz | [19:07] <msb> The towers stayed up after the planes hit. | Jul 25 19:08 |
msb | schestowitz: Because if so I have a lot of real work to do. | Jul 25 19:08 |
schestowitz | Building 7 also stayed up for a while, but it was on fire.... majorfire | Jul 25 19:08 |
schestowitz | The side facing the WTC | Jul 25 19:08 |
schestowitz | And it was a matter of time before it was out of control and it lost rigidity at the frame | Jul 25 19:09 |
msb | Except that steel-frame buildings do not fall from fire. | Jul 25 19:09 |
msb | schestowitz: Did you read everything I just posted about Cambodia? Pol Pot regime was caused by the US supporting opposition that overthrew Sihanouk, and then by US bombing. | Jul 25 19:10 |
msb | schestowitz: You were the one who questioned that. Did you read the evidence I posted? | Jul 25 19:10 |
schestowitz | You and I talkd about whether the US caused it | Jul 25 19:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unigine OilRush Game Receives More Enhancements http://ur1.ca/4sday High-gend Linux gaming | Jul 25 19:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody $283M Lobbying Cost; $62B Benefit; ROI = 22,000% - http://bit.ly/pN5czz #lobbying by numbers (v @EllnMllr) | Jul 25 19:10 | |
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schestowitz | Intentionally | Jul 25 19:11 |
schestowitz | It could be an outcome | Jul 25 19:11 |
schestowitz | And I said tessier would know better | Jul 25 19:11 |
schestowitz | But this alone does not imply the US' intent was to cause genocide in Cambodia | Jul 25 19:11 |
schestowitz | Or a war | Jul 25 19:11 |
msb | schestowitz: You didn't even read it, did you? | Jul 25 19:11 |
schestowitz | I read the portions you posted | Jul 25 19:11 |
schestowitz | There might be other reporters and historians who don't hold the same position, I haven't surveyed that | Jul 25 19:12 |
schestowitz | "For the first time since 2005, I will not be attending OSCON." | Jul 25 19:12 |
schestowitz | http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2011/07/24/oscon-2011/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tecosystems+%28tecosystems%29 | Jul 25 19:12 |
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schestowitz | Seems like they are going kaput | Jul 25 19:12 |
schestowitz | Sad in a way | Jul 25 19:12 |
schestowitz | But inevitable since they left their office | Jul 25 19:13 |
msb | So the US bumps off the peaceful leader, knowing that crazed commies are poised to take over if they do. But you think Pol Pot was an unpredictable accident. Unintended. | Jul 25 19:13 |
schestowitz | No, my original point was, not all wars are caused by bankers | Jul 25 19:13 |
schestowitz | I raised an issue with the video you posted a link to | Jul 25 19:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/452802/rss | Jul 25 19:14 | |
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schestowitz | It's more like incitations against bankers and an oversimplification that's gross | Jul 25 19:14 |
schestowitz | it would be convenient to embrace for those who: | Jul 25 19:14 |
schestowitz | i. have a mortgage | Jul 25 19:14 |
schestowitz | ii. lost a child/spouse in a war | Jul 25 19:14 |
schestowitz | iii. look for scpegoat that's a 4 letter work | Jul 25 19:15 |
msb | schestowitz: I know it also says the ruling bloodline. I just watched it. So it is you who are oversimplifying. | Jul 25 19:15 |
schestowitz | *word | Jul 25 19:15 |
schestowitz | No, I am saying many wars and conflicts are complex | Jul 25 19:15 |
schestowitz | Sometimes over religion, too | Jul 25 19:15 |
msb | schestowitz: You are hopeless. But you're great on Microsoft and swpats. From each according to his ability... | Jul 25 19:16 |
schestowitz | If bankers benefit, this does not mean they are the catalyst2 | Jul 25 19:16 |
schestowitz | If the US can enter Iraq after 9/11, it does not imply that it was behind the 9/11 attacks | Jul 25 19:16 |
cubezzz | bankers are not your friend :) | Jul 25 19:16 |
schestowitz | That's the logical fallacy I try to get you to at least recognise | Jul 25 19:16 |
schestowitz | But you evade the issue | Jul 25 19:16 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: neither are lawyers :-) | Jul 25 19:17 |
msb | The physical evidence proves planted thermite. Arabs couldn't have done that. | Jul 25 19:17 |
schestowitz | and PR people.. and... | Jul 25 19:17 |
schestowitz | you failed to show me this evidence | Jul 25 19:17 |
schestowitz | We've been through this before | Jul 25 19:17 |
cubezzz | I'm really impressed with the efficency of amigados and intuition | Jul 25 19:17 |
schestowitz | And you sort of failed cause all you yielded was some link to firefighters mumblign about something that claim to have seen, which is not thermite | Jul 25 19:18 |
msb | Yes, and every time you say "the guys who saw the molten metal just thought they did", and "the scientists who analyzed the dust may be lying". | Jul 25 19:18 |
schestowitz | molten metal does not mean domolition | Jul 25 19:19 |
msb | It isn't "mumbling" Roy. | Jul 25 19:19 |
msb | Yes it does, because kerosene can't melt steel. | Jul 25 19:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ist das jetzt Realsatire wenn das Erste gerade den Naturfilm "Wildes Skandinavien" zeigt? | Jul 25 19:19 | |
schestowitz | Even /if/ that thing existed, it does not follow that the "government" did it | Jul 25 19:19 |
schestowitz | Your story is hinged on weak evidence | Jul 25 19:19 |
schestowitz | Of the weakesxt form | Jul 25 19:19 |
msb | Somebody got in there, past the security run by Bush's brother. | Jul 25 19:19 |
schestowitz | Had it been true, there sure would be evidnece | Jul 25 19:19 |
schestowitz | Like some disgruntled person who blows the whistl | Jul 25 19:20 |
schestowitz | msb: what's her name? | Jul 25 19:20 |
schestowitz | Or his name? | Jul 25 19:20 |
schestowitz | And what is the evidence that "Somebody got in there, past the security run by Bush's brother." | Jul 25 19:21 |
msb | What's the evidence that you are thinking rationally? | Jul 25 19:21 |
msb | schestowitz: You'll just go on forever like this, just like Snit. | Jul 25 19:22 |
schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-sequitor | Jul 25 19:22 |
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msb | Can't spell. Must be a scientologist. | Jul 25 19:23 |
cubezzz | we should stick to the basics.... FOSS and alternative operating systems and all that | Jul 25 19:23 |
cubezzz | at least I feel I can contribute to that | Jul 25 19:24 |
cubezzz | we had a kind of FOSS in the 80's that was overlooked | Jul 25 19:24 |
cubezzz | amiga fish disks collected a lot of programs and distrubuted them to various BBSes | Jul 25 19:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @arkblitz: Paraphrasing a certain movie, "May the #FairUse be with you". #cc | Jul 25 19:27 | |
schestowitz | I remember BBSes.... | Jul 25 19:27 |
schestowitz | The days when disk space was valued | Jul 25 19:27 |
schestowitz | download 1.44MB files... | Jul 25 19:27 |
schestowitz | get coffee | Jul 25 19:28 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, a lot of the old amiga code was quite efficient | Jul 25 19:28 |
schestowitz | Keep computer on all night | Jul 25 19:28 |
schestowitz | 9mb/hour at best | Jul 25 19:28 |
schestowitz | Did anyone here play FIFA or warcraft over modem? | Jul 25 19:28 |
cubezzz | I played Empire over a modem | Jul 25 19:29 |
schestowitz | Even FPSss | Jul 25 19:29 |
cubezzz | not a big first person shooter fan | Jul 25 19:29 |
*MinceR is a big FPS fan | Jul 25 19:29 | |
cubezzz | Heretic 2 was OK though | Jul 25 19:30 |
cubezzz | had a bit more to it | Jul 25 19:30 |
MinceR | Heretic 2 was a TPS, not an FPS | Jul 25 19:30 |
MinceR | one of the best TPSes around, though | Jul 25 19:30 |
MinceR | (with actual aiming and good controls) | Jul 25 19:30 |
cubezzz | what does the T stand for? | Jul 25 19:30 |
MinceR | third | Jul 25 19:30 |
cubezzz | ah | Jul 25 19:30 |
cubezzz | you played the Loki version I presume? | Jul 25 19:31 |
MinceR | nope | Jul 25 19:31 |
MinceR | the winblows version | Jul 25 19:31 |
cubezzz | :-/ | Jul 25 19:31 |
cubezzz | Majesty Gold is pretty fun | Jul 25 19:32 |
schestowitz | What about Heroes? | Jul 25 19:32 |
MinceR | when was H2 ported to gnu+linux? | Jul 25 19:32 |
schestowitz | Anyone played any in the series? | Jul 25 19:32 |
cubezzz | umm | Jul 25 19:32 |
schestowitz | [of Might and Magic] | Jul 25 19:32 |
cubezzz | I played King's Bounty :) | Jul 25 19:32 |
schestowitz | I played 1 and 2 over nwtwork | Jul 25 19:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Fed Audit http://ur1.ca/4rccn "the U.S. provided a whopping $16 trillion in secret loans to bail out American and foreign banks"~sanders | Jul 25 19:32 | |
schestowitz | Lag is not an issue in those games | Jul 25 19:32 |
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cubezzz | I think I played Might and Magic 3 | Jul 25 19:32 |
cubezzz | whatever the Loki version had | Jul 25 19:33 |
cubezzz | a shame I never got any Loki source code | Jul 25 19:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] The good news about Any Winehouse's death is that the Copyright mafia only gets a few more decades of pimping her out. | Jul 25 19:34 | |
schestowitz | with DRM? | Jul 25 19:34 |
schestowitz | activation codes? | Jul 25 19:34 |
cubezzz | I don't think Loki used DRM | Jul 25 19:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] /me doesn't like this headline from @noyesk which is clearly link bait http://ur1.ca/4sdjc | Jul 25 19:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Apple has US $76 in cash, at the bank. It's worth US $350 billion | Jul 25 19:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Amy, I mean. Damn auto correct. | Jul 25 19:35 | |
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MinceR | ah, another headline which is a question with the obvious answer "no" | Jul 25 19:36 |
cubezzz | dare I ask what BFF is? | Jul 25 19:36 |
MinceR | best friends forever | Jul 25 19:36 |
schestowitz | http://mrpogson.com/2011/07/24/christian-stretched-in-the-mind-of-a-madman/ | Jul 25 19:36 |
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schestowitz | gnufreex: ^^ | Jul 25 19:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] London's museums warned of rhino horn theft risk - http://bbc.in/nTHuc2 some seriously sad people around | Jul 25 19:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Facebook: Tilera Boosts Memcached Efficiency (DataCenter Knowledge): http://bit.ly/mUFrn4 | Jul 25 19:37 | |
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gnufreex | schestowitz: Reading now | Jul 25 19:38 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF is looking for a new Legal Intake Coordinator! https://www.eff.org/about/opportunities/jobs | Jul 25 19:39 | |
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schestowitz | gnufreex: I thought you already read is blog | Jul 25 19:39 |
cubezzz | foolishness... | Jul 25 19:39 |
schestowitz | I started reading it after he supported us | Jul 25 19:39 |
schestowitz | When we got DDOSed he offered to find server space for us | Jul 25 19:39 |
gnufreex | schestowitz: Who, Pogson? I read him time to time, but didn't read this. | Jul 25 19:40 |
schestowitz | it's new | Jul 25 19:40 |
cubezzz | lol, I actually have windows 1.01 | Jul 25 19:40 |
cubezzz | just realized | Jul 25 19:40 |
schestowitz | me has windows | Jul 25 19:40 |
schestowitz | they're open at the moment | Jul 25 19:40 |
schestowitz | It's like 22 Celsius today | Jul 25 19:40 |
schestowitz | Relatively hot for this month (so far) | Jul 25 19:40 |
schestowitz | Today I printed out 6 journal papers | Jul 25 19:41 |
cubezzz | I have a bunch of arachic stuff | Jul 25 19:41 |
schestowitz | I'll have fun reading those out in the wild :-) | Jul 25 19:41 |
cubezzz | archaic even | Jul 25 19:41 |
schestowitz | No computer, no IRC | Jul 25 19:41 |
schestowitz | No flashign icons | Jul 25 19:41 |
cubezzz | I have AWARD modular BIOS too | Jul 25 19:42 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh where do I send my hat picture? | Jul 25 19:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Study: #Piracy Increases The Quality Of Content - http://bit.ly/qPb7mr makes sense if you think about it | Jul 25 19:44 | |
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cubezzz | Microsoft Cobol version 3... | Jul 25 19:44 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] In case you missed it: "When Patents Attack!," This American Life's insightful take on patent trolls. https://eff.org/r.86U | Jul 25 19:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @meegoexperts Speculation mounts for Nokia N9 Release date – August 19 ? http://mge.bz/h2 #Nokia #MeeGo #Harmattan #N9 #Russia | Jul 25 19:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Since I started using Google+ I am less active on !identica. Anybody else experiencing the same? !googleplus | Jul 25 19:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @toros I have no interest in silos/walled gardens, so... no. | Jul 25 19:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @toros Kinda.... | Jul 25 19:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Producing culture in weak intellectual property environment - http://bit.ly/pyVzwQ good sense about thriving amidst abunda ... | Jul 25 19:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @meegoexperts Put Your Music Shelf in Your Pocket – With MeeGo Harmattan or N900CE http://mge.bz/h1 #Nokia #N9 #N950 #Maemo | Jul 25 19:50 | |
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ender_33 | 14:19 < schestowitz> Had it been true, there sure would be evidnece | Jul 25 19:52 |
ender_33 | 14:19 < schestowitz> Like some disgruntled person who blows the whistl | Jul 25 19:52 |
ender_33 | the whistle-blower falacy | Jul 25 19:52 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: those show figures....how do they compare to previous episodes? | Jul 25 19:52 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @toros: Since I started using Google+ I am less active on !identica. Anybody else experiencing the same? !googleplus -- ask @fabsh! | Jul 25 19:52 | |
ender_33 | you don't always get whistleblowers | Jul 25 19:52 |
ender_33 | 14:27 < schestowitz> 9mb/hour at best | Jul 25 19:53 |
ender_33 | what kind of ritzy connection did you have | Jul 25 19:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Google cares if you use your real name - http://bit.ly/nNUJYo "2 cross-relate your account with buying behavior with their partners" | Jul 25 19:54 | |
ender_33 | I've seen 7KBPS with compression on via dialup | Jul 25 19:54 |
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ender_33 | a far cry from 9MB an hr | Jul 25 19:54 |
ender_33 | 14:34 <@cubezzz> I don't think Loki used DRM | Jul 25 19:55 |
ender_33 | Loki just used proprietary binaries that don't work on any modern linux system anymore | Jul 25 19:56 |
ender_33 | due to none of the libraries they used being that obsolete | Jul 25 19:56 |
ender_33 | A major problem for gaming on linux, is that devs don't want to have to maintain their games forever | Jul 25 19:56 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: better every month, I think we get more regulars | Jul 25 19:57 |
schestowitz | And it has only been 9 months, not 4.5 years | Jul 25 19:57 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] !festival is amazing | Jul 25 19:57 | |
ender_33 | schestowitz - did your rich parents get you ISDN or something? | Jul 25 19:57 |
schestowitz | show feedback is hard because it's hard to point to specifics and people usually download and take away t car/walk/gym/etc | Jul 25 19:58 |
schestowitz | [19:54] <ender_33> what kind of ritzy connection did you have | Jul 25 19:58 |
schestowitz | 14k | Jul 25 19:58 |
schestowitz | maybe 28k | Jul 25 19:58 |
ender_33 | I don't think so | Jul 25 19:58 |
ender_33 | not 9mb an hour | Jul 25 19:58 |
ender_33 | you must be guessing | Jul 25 19:58 |
schestowitz | I seem to recall this ule of thumb | Jul 25 19:58 |
schestowitz | About 10 an hour | Jul 25 19:59 |
schestowitz | 100kb webpage in well less than a minute | Jul 25 19:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CalculateLinux 11.6.1 released http://ur1.ca/4sdn0 Calculate Linux Has a New Release With !KDE 4.6.5 | Jul 25 19:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @eff In case you missed it: "When Patents Attack!," This American Life's insightful take on patent trolls. https://eff.org/r.86U | Jul 25 19:59 | |
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schestowitz | maybe 3kb/sec? | Jul 25 19:59 |
schestowitz | IIRC | Jul 25 19:59 |
schestowitz | without compression | Jul 25 19:59 |
schestowitz | that would be about 200k/minute | Jul 25 19:59 |
schestowitz | 2mb in 10 minutes | Jul 25 20:00 |
schestowitz | like s tiny youtube viz with just audio | Jul 25 20:00 |
schestowitz | there was viv format back then for video | Jul 25 20:00 |
schestowitz | vry good compression | Jul 25 20:00 |
schestowitz | .rm was also widely used | Jul 25 20:00 |
schestowitz | [19:57] <ender_33> schestowitz - did your rich parents get you ISDN or something? | Jul 25 20:01 |
ender_33 | thats more like it | Jul 25 20:01 |
ender_33 | :) | Jul 25 20:01 |
schestowitz | I never had ISDN or rich parents | Jul 25 20:01 |
schestowitz | some older modeme were 9600 (baud?) | Jul 25 20:01 |
ender_33 | I'd see Netscape Communicator download in about 30 minutes to an hour | Jul 25 20:02 |
schestowitz | then stardard pcs came with the 218k ones | Jul 25 20:02 |
cubezzz | old is 300 baud | Jul 25 20:02 |
schestowitz | IIRC, that was also the capacity of phone lines | Jul 25 20:02 |
ender_33 | I had a phone line with issues too | Jul 25 20:02 |
schestowitz | *28k, not 218 (typo) | Jul 25 20:02 |
ender_33 | couldn't hit 56k if I wanted to | Jul 25 20:02 |
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ender_33 | usually 48666k | Jul 25 20:02 |
schestowitz | my current line support up to 17mb/sec | Jul 25 20:03 |
schestowitz | *supports | Jul 25 20:03 |
ender_33 | thats digital | Jul 25 20:03 |
schestowitz | Only for fast UK-to-UK transfer I sometimes get this speed | Jul 25 20:03 |
ender_33 | of course it does | Jul 25 20:03 |
schestowitz | For overseas it's like 50k/sec usually | Jul 25 20:03 |
cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_coupler | Jul 25 20:03 |
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ender_33 | :) | Jul 25 20:03 |
ender_33 | I remember BBS's | Jul 25 20:03 |
ender_33 | I know *one* that is still running | Jul 25 20:04 |
schestowitz | mati runs one | Jul 25 20:04 |
schestowitz | He's hanging out here sometimes | Jul 25 20:04 |
schestowitz | And I think maybe _Goblin set one up | Jul 25 20:04 |
ender_33 | yeah but this one is still running the original board it did 20 years ago | Jul 25 20:04 |
cubezzz | 1200 baud limit on those | Jul 25 20:04 |
ender_33 | os/2 warp 4 | Jul 25 20:04 |
ender_33 | 4 nodes | Jul 25 20:05 |
ender_33 | oh wait, 3 nodes now | Jul 25 20:05 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: I had one in the amiga days, but it was Marti who set up a bbs recently. | Jul 25 20:05 |
ender_33 | 1 phone line, 2 telnet nodes | Jul 25 20:05 |
ender_33 | free email | Jul 25 20:05 |
cubezzz | the amiga days are now :) | Jul 25 20:05 |
ender_33 | http://homeward.homestead.com/ | Jul 25 20:05 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] School Teacher Could Take #HADOPI to Court Over False Disconnection - http://bit.ly/p3QARY let's hope he gets the support he needs | Jul 25 20:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Telco’s Next Evolution by Norman Fekrat and Tim Zeller http://tinyurl.com/3zz3uju #telco #redhat #software #4G | Jul 25 20:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @meegoexperts Put Your Music Shelf in Your Pocket – With MeeGo Harmattan or N900CE http://mge.bz/h1 #Nokia #N9 #N950 #Maemo | Jul 25 20:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @bkuhn @fontana, That's my point! I'm betting !Canonical is banking on most people not *realizing* the #CLA in question is essentiall ... | Jul 25 20:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Pakistan Says Yes to Open Source Software http://www.muktware.com/hacksheet/2003 #foss #microsoft #windows #linux #gnu #office #msoffice | Jul 25 20:05 | |
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ThistleWeb | they should rebrand it with a mexican theme and call it Amigo | Jul 25 20:06 |
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ender_33 | The Homeward Bound BBS http://homeward.homestead.com/ | Jul 25 20:06 |
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schestowitz | ThistleWeb: I just thought that too! | Jul 25 20:06 |
cubezzz | Spanish female friend == amiga | Jul 25 20:06 |
ender_33 | Has 50+ Door games | Jul 25 20:06 |
ender_33 | (LORD, Trade Wars, etc) | Jul 25 20:06 |
ThistleWeb | cubezzz: yeah the a & o is used a lot in spanish for male / female | Jul 25 20:06 |
ender_33 | Lots of DOS and Win3.1 software, OS/2 software | Jul 25 20:07 |
ender_33 | lol | Jul 25 20:07 |
ThistleWeb | it's odd to think of an object being male or female, but plenty of langauges do it | Jul 25 20:07 |
schestowitz | Vista is Visto in female. | Jul 25 20:07 |
schestowitz | Visto means crap :-) | Jul 25 20:07 |
cubezzz | windows visto :) | Jul 25 20:07 |
ThistleWeb | spanish also adds the "i" or "you" onto the end of words too, which bakes my mind in trying to learn | Jul 25 20:08 |
cubezzz | well there's Natami, hopefully that will appear at some point | Jul 25 20:08 |
ThistleWeb | not only do you have to remember that a door is either male or female, but flip the pronoun backwards | Jul 25 20:08 |
ThistleWeb | on the other hand, it's probs english that got it backwards, many do it the other way | Jul 25 20:09 |
cubezzz | I really need some dsdd diskettes :-/ | Jul 25 20:10 |
cubezzz | I might have to try using hd ones | Jul 25 20:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Microsoft/Novell agreement renewed http://lwn.net/Articles/452847/rss | Jul 25 20:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CentOS 6.0 (LiveCD) is out http://ur1.ca/4sdqn #redhat #rhel #gnu #linux | Jul 25 20:10 | |
schestowitz | Mo-Javah!! | Jul 25 20:10 |
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schestowitz | Mo-havee | Jul 25 20:11 |
schestowitz | ThistleWeb corrected _Goblin on the show | Jul 25 20:11 |
ender_33 | Jesus = He's us | Jul 25 20:12 |
ender_33 | http://www.eagleman.com/incognito | Jul 25 20:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Jul 25 20:12 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Police forces come together to create new regional #surveillance units - http://bit.ly/npq4gA how about a little oversight first? | Jul 25 20:12 | |
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_Goblin | I think in future I will boycott any application with a name I'm unsure how to pronounce. | Jul 25 20:13 |
ender_33 | "Neuroscientist and polymath David Eagleman argues that the actions of the unconscious are so powerful and pervasive that they 'dethrone' the conscious mind... Eagleman argues his case in an appealing and persuasive way." - Wall Street Journal | Jul 25 20:13 |
ender_33 | I actually suspect he doesn't know hes dealing with remote control | Jul 25 20:13 |
ThistleWeb | mojave is a mexican word, the j is silent in many mexican words | Jul 25 20:13 |
ThistleWeb | well, pronounced as an h | Jul 25 20:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @lwnnet Microsoft/Novell agreement renewed http://lwn.net/Articles/452847/rss | Jul 25 20:14 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZorinOS 5 Lite is now available http://ur1.ca/4sdr7 "The Zorin OS Team are proud to release the Zorin OS 5 Lite" #gnu #linux | Jul 25 20:14 | |
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ender_33 | ThistleWeb - yes, hence why the name 'Jesus' really means 'He's us' and is in reference to us, not some diety | Jul 25 20:14 |
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ender_33 | The death and resurrection of humanity via genetic engineering and non-anthropogenic climate change | Jul 25 20:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #CentOS 6.0 (LiveCD) is out http://ur1.ca/4sdqn #redhat #rhel #gnu #linux | Jul 25 20:16 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #ZorinOS 5 Lite is now available http://ur1.ca/4sdr7 "The Zorin OS Team are proud to release the Zorin OS 5 Lite" #gnu ... | Jul 25 20:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody School Teacher Could Take #HADOPI to Court Over False Disconnection - http://bit.ly/p3QARY let's hope he gets the support ... | Jul 25 20:17 | |
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ender_33 | msb_ Roy is using words that Brain Dumbing was using such as 'reptoid' and refering to Icke | Jul 25 20:21 |
ender_33 | http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4264 | Jul 25 20:21 |
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schestowitz | with bait headline there | Jul 25 20:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Why Google cares if you use your real name - http://bit.ly/nNUJYo "2 cross-relate your account with buying behavior with t ... | Jul 25 20:25 | |
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ender_33 | bait what? | Jul 25 20:26 |
ender_33 | 15:25 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Why Google cares if you use your real name - http://bit.ly/nNUJYo "2 cross-relate your account with buying behavior with t ... | Jul 25 20:28 |
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ender_33 | personality profiles for the gov't | Jul 25 20:28 |
schestowitz | "Conspiracy Theorists Aren't Crazy" | Jul 25 20:29 |
ender_33 | you linked that | Jul 25 20:30 |
schestowitz | bait]he says the opposite | Jul 25 20:30 |
cubezzz | sometimes it's clear enough to be called conspiracy fact | Jul 25 20:31 |
cubezzz | at least where Microsoft is concerned | Jul 25 20:31 |
schestowitz | collusion | Jul 25 20:31 |
cubezzz | BeOS and Toshiba got beatdown by the big M | Jul 25 20:31 |
schestowitz | Where we have leaked documents | Jul 25 20:31 |
schestowitz | Actually, mostprice-fixing schemes are conpiracies | Jul 25 20:32 |
schestowitz | The word take two meanining now | Jul 25 20:32 |
schestowitz | The derogatory one is not literal | Jul 25 20:32 |
schestowitz | just means "unsubstantiated story" | Jul 25 20:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Quemalo - http://bit.ly/pyppbJ rather fine little number from "La Real Academia del Sonido", Colombia, with v right-on lyrics (v @SinkDeep) | Jul 25 20:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Google+ and the loss of online anonymity http://tinyurl.com/3ux2xxm #google #privacy #security | Jul 25 20:32 | |
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schestowitz | The proprer meaning is congragation of some people or companies to harm others. It happens all the time | Jul 25 20:32 |
schestowitz | One could argue that this channel is a "conpiracy" of people who want to spread Linux, or conspire to achieve it, transparently | Jul 25 20:33 |
cubezzz | not really | Jul 25 20:33 |
cubezzz | my only conspiracy is to promote FOSS | Jul 25 20:33 |
schestowitz | Inionise? | Jul 25 20:33 |
cubezzz | not much of a conspiracy :) | Jul 25 20:33 |
schestowitz | Unionise | Jul 25 20:34 |
schestowitz | maybe you conspire with anoher person | Jul 25 20:34 |
schestowitz | Some kids conpire with their siblings to persuade a parent to do something | Jul 25 20:34 |
cubezzz | e.g i advocate Plan 9 and haiku and amiga foss, bsd, etc, etc | Jul 25 20:34 |
schestowitz | the pro-Plan 9 cabal!! | Jul 25 20:34 |
schestowitz | Yeah, heard of those :-) | Jul 25 20:35 |
cubezzz | lol | Jul 25 20:35 |
schestowitz | !google "Linux cabal" | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - www.linuxcabal.org/indexOK.php - Un Lugar Donde Confiar | http://www.linuxcabal.org/ | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - www.linuxcabal.org/indexOK.php - Un Lugar Donde Confiar | http://www.linuxcabal.org/indexOK.php%3FLang%3Den%26DD%3D./ | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Consortium of All Bay Area Linux | http://linuxmafia.com/cabal/ | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Cabal: Linux Cabal | http://www.lycos.com/info/cabal--linux-cabal.html | Jul 25 20:35 |
cubezzz | yeah evil plans 1 through 8 were unsucessful | Jul 25 20:35 |
schestowitz | !google "Linux mafia" | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Linuxmafia | http://www.linuxmafia.com/ | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Linuxmafia.com Knowledgebase - | http://www.linuxmafia.com/kb/ | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Linuxmafia | http://linuxmafia.net/ | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Gaming In Linux : Mafia - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D0jyEHMXpdF4 | Jul 25 20:35 |
schestowitz | !google "Linux conpiracy" | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | No Google results | Jul 25 20:35 |
schestowitz | !google "Linux conspiracy" | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Linux Today - A Microsoft Windows/Linux Conspiracy Theory | http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2007100101626OPMS | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - A Microsoft Windows / Linux Conspiracy Theory ~ Chris Pirillo | http://chris.pirillo.com/a-microsoft-windows-linux-conspiracy-theory/ | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Linux Conspiracy! lol, page 1 | http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread710707/pg1 | Jul 25 20:35 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Suits vs. Linux-- Conspiracy, Malice, or Clueless? - The IT ... | http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/7261/1 | Jul 25 20:35 |
schestowitz | [4] sounds like it's Byfield | Jul 25 20:36 |
schestowitz | Let's see... | Jul 25 20:36 |
cubezzz | yes, I conspire to take over the world with my amiga | Jul 25 20:36 |
schestowitz | LOL | Jul 25 20:36 |
schestowitz | I was righyt | Jul 25 20:36 |
schestowitz | Byfield | Jul 25 20:36 |
schestowitz | He uses the word "conpiracy" to dismiss his opposition | Jul 25 20:37 |
schestowitz | Florian M does the same | Jul 25 20:37 |
schestowitz | MS Jack too | Jul 25 20:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux thin client taps new Marvell ARM http://ur1.ca/4sdv6 "announced a Linux thin client based on Marvell's new 1GHz PXA510" | Jul 25 20:39 | |
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ender_33 | DaemonFC - opera is a stupid piece of shit | Jul 25 20:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] DebConf video streams available http://lwn.net/Articles/452850/rss | Jul 25 20:40 | |
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ender_33 | it will not obey defaults | Jul 25 20:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Now online in Science: Counting the dead in Afghanistan http://t.co/ZZyeXSU | Jul 25 20:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 [..] 'embedded' job selling Libya war to Canadians, DiManno frantically peddles neocon image of Breivik as 'lone vigilante'. | Jul 25 20:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @slashdot: Iran Forced To Replace Centrifuges To Stop Stuxnet http://bit.ly/nLnjH4 \ | Jul 25 20:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Iran could, in principle, replace Windows, not the hardware. | Jul 25 20:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is marjoleink with 101 dents! | Jul 25 20:44 | |
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ender_33 | DaemonFC - no add/remove programs entry | Jul 25 20:45 |
ender_33 | ignores the default browser settings and keeps coming up and asking | Jul 25 20:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another reason to Boycott SUSE, not just to boycott Novell http://ur1.ca/4sdwa #suse #sellout | Jul 25 20:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rcweir ...SUSE renews interop agreement with Microsoft, will work together to target RedHat http://prn.to/pn8tAB http://bit.ly/r5zs1D | Jul 25 20:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@rcweir and why again does IBM support SUSE in Lotus servers and mainframes? #swpats #novell | Jul 25 20:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @slashdot: Microsoft Extending Linux Patent Deal With SUSE http://bit.ly/p5fQoK #swpats | Jul 25 20:50 | |
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gnufreex | So we need to hate Attachmate even more. | Jul 25 20:51 |
ender_33 | Roy has that one down pat | Jul 25 20:52 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/95581352832925696 | Jul 25 20:53 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz ♻ @slashdot #Iran Forced To Replace Centrifuges To Stop #Stuxnet worm…☝replace Windows, not the hardware http://bit.ly/nLnjH4 | Jul 25 20:53 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @zoobab: The FFII is more or less dead today but it has spawned many successors and imitators http://t.co/lZVij96 | Jul 25 20:54 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A User's Guide to the Digital Revolution - Software and Silicon .::. Size~: 34.86 KB | Jul 25 20:54 |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/95581382599909376?iid=am-209358414613116233522320530&nid=4&uid=26603208 | Jul 25 20:55 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @schestowitz Iran is not short of extremely smart people. It's entirely unclear what's stopping them. What have I failed to understand? | Jul 25 20:55 |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/rcweir/status/95582608225873920?iid=am-82952056813116236444956096&nid=4&uid=26603208 | Jul 25 20:55 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @rcweir: @schestowitz Our use of Java allows us to support almost any server platform our customers ask for. | Jul 25 20:55 |
schestowitz | IBM usually uses the Microsoft-taxed SLES for Lotus AFAIK | Jul 25 20:55 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SUSE is not run by SUSE/Novell people. The management is from Attachmate, a Microsoft Gold Partner. | Jul 25 20:59 | |
ender_33 | Opera is fucking retarded | Jul 25 21:00 |
ender_33 | UUUUGGGH!! | Jul 25 21:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] interesting discussion on the latest !TechBytes with Michael about OSX | Jul 25 21:02 | |
schestowitz | does it force ALL CAPS? | Jul 25 21:06 |
MinceR | CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL | Jul 25 21:08 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Don't let Congress order Internet companies to spy on you—act now to block the data retention bill: https://eff.org/r.87W via @eff | Jul 25 21:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @debian DebConf 11 started - http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110725 | Jul 25 21:15 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Debian -- News -- DebConf 11 started .::. Size~: 8.74 KB | Jul 25 21:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Morala furtunii mediatice din Marea Britanie http://tinyurl.com/3l63cpj #media #murdoch | Jul 25 21:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Don't let Congress order Internet companies to spy on you—act now to block the data retention bill: https://eff.org/r.87W via @eff | Jul 25 21:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: In case you missed it: "When Patents Attack!," This American Life's insightful take on patent trolls. https://eff.org/r.86U | Jul 25 21:19 | |
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*username is now known as Chips | Jul 25 21:20 | |
schestowitz | hi Chips | Jul 25 21:20 |
schestowitz | whatcha got? | Jul 25 21:20 |
*Chips is now known as Guest19735 | Jul 25 21:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Another reason to Boycott SUSE, not just to boycott Novell http://ur1.ca/4sdwa #suse #sellout | Jul 25 21:20 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft and SUSE Renew Successful Interoperability Agreement -- REDMOND, Wash. and NUREMBERG, Germany, July 25, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- .::. Size~: 100.31 KB | Jul 25 21:21 |
Guest19735 | seems Icahn had tried to put people on Motorola's board back in 2007 and 2008 also | Jul 25 21:21 |
schestowitz | aha.. | Jul 25 21:21 |
schestowitz | but.. | Jul 25 21:21 |
schestowitz | what does he say about patents and android cases? | Jul 25 21:21 |
ender_33 | 16:06 < schestowitz> does it force ALL CAPS? | Jul 25 21:21 |
ender_33 | yes | Jul 25 21:21 |
ender_33 | it also eats babies | Jul 25 21:21 |
schestowitz | :-D | Jul 25 21:21 |
Guest19735 | newer computer will not let me use my old id | Jul 25 21:21 |
schestowitz | ender_33: yummy? | Jul 25 21:21 |
ender_33 | Isn't opera in oslo? | Jul 25 21:21 |
schestowitz | yes | Jul 25 21:21 |
schestowitz | Opera shoots the users | Jul 25 21:22 |
ender_33 | the terrorists weren't impressed with opera's fail uninstaller | Jul 25 21:22 |
schestowitz | And then gives them another one in the head "to make sure" | Jul 25 21:22 |
Guest19735 | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/144211/motorola_icahn_reach_agreement_on_board.html | Jul 25 21:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Motorola, Icahn Reach Agreement on Board | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 84.22 KB | Jul 25 21:22 |
Guest19735 | thats from 2008 | Jul 25 21:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 25/7/2011: Calculate Linux 11.6.1, CentOS 6.0 LiveCD http://ur1.ca/4se2u !techrights | Jul 25 21:22 | |
schestowitz | thank you, mr. icahn, for running the industry | Jul 25 21:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 25/7/2011: Calculate Linux 11.6.1, CentOS 6.0 LiveCD | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.27 KB | Jul 25 21:23 |
Guest19735 | more like ruining the industry | Jul 25 21:23 |
ender_33 | the so-called 'right wing' nut was really just peeved that opera took over his computer without admin rights | Jul 25 21:23 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/95583837790285824 | Jul 25 21:23 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz: .@rcweir and why…does #IBM support [Microsoft-loving] #SUSE['s #GNU/ #Linux] in #Lotus servers & #mainframes #swpats #novell | Jul 25 21:23 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rcweir/status/95583916538343425 | Jul 25 21:23 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @rcweir: @schestowitz We generally support both SLES and RHEL, see for example: http://bit.ly/qrVfpJ | Jul 25 21:23 |
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ender_33 | IE gives up so easily when it comes to being default browser | Jul 25 21:24 |
ender_33 | Opera on the other hand, refuses to let you setup another browser | Jul 25 21:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 25/7/2011: Calculate Linux 11.6.1, CentOS 6.0 LiveCD http://ur1.ca/4se2u #techrights | Jul 25 21:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody The open internet and its enemies - http://bbc.in/nRsDHp @billt weighs in on crucial topic (v @technollama) #openness | Jul 25 21:24 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 25/7/2011: Calculate Linux 11.6.1, CentOS 6.0 LiveCD | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.27 KB | Jul 25 21:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - The open internet and its enemies .::. Size~: 56.86 KB | Jul 25 21:24 |
Guest19735 | from the 2008 link: "cahn owns about 6.4 percent of Motorola. He has been pressuring the wireless network and handset maker for several months, at first waging an unsuccessful battle for shareholders' proxy votes to get elected to the board himself. He also has argued that Motorola would be worth more broken up than as a whole. Icahn attacked while Motorola was suffering weak financial results after profits from its popular Razr handset faded and | Jul 25 21:24 |
Guest19735 | it failed to come up with another hit phone." | Jul 25 21:24 |
ender_33 | In an ALL CAPS voice Opera shouted "I MUST CONTROL HTTP ON YOUR BOX! UBUNTU SHOULD HAVE BROWSER CHOICE DIALOG BOXES TOO!" | Jul 25 21:25 |
Guest19735 | so he has been a busy boy and increased his holdings in Motorola since to 11.36% | Jul 25 21:25 |
schestowitz | http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/1314539/Novell-SUSE-Linux-price-cut-may-target-Red-Hats-mainframe-aspirations "We already have 85% of the mainframe market," Novell on mainframe | Jul 25 21:25 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Novell SUSE Linux price cut may target Red Hat's mainframe aspirations .::. Size~: 53.84 KB | Jul 25 21:25 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/95586008170627072 | Jul 25 21:25 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz #SUSE isn't run by SUSE/Novell people. The management's from #Attachmate, a Microsoft Gold Partner.☝a la #Citrix's #XenServer | Jul 25 21:25 |
schestowitz | yes | Jul 25 21:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF analysis of @Wikileaks cables show how surveillance tech is misused in Latin America https://eff.org/r.99c #privacy #netfreedom | Jul 25 21:25 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Politics of Surveillance: The Erosion of Privacy in Latin America | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 35.36 KB | Jul 25 21:26 |
MinceR | ubuntu does have browser choice dialog boxes, it's called synaptic :> | Jul 25 21:26 |
schestowitz | "Don't worry..... Mr. Ballmer will take care of *that*" | Jul 25 21:26 |
ender_33 | Really? | Jul 25 21:26 |
schestowitz | xen | Jul 25 21:26 |
schestowitz | Crosby left | Jul 25 21:26 |
ender_33 | Don't you mean 'THe *buntu software *store*' | Jul 25 21:27 |
MinceR | that too | Jul 25 21:27 |
MinceR | though i don't care for that | Jul 25 21:27 |
schestowitz | Now the micromob van par-tey! | Jul 25 21:27 |
Guest19735 | http://www.intomobile.com/2010/08/06/carl-icahn-takes-biggest-stake-in-motorola/ | Jul 25 21:27 |
MinceR | anyway, you can even choose your own package manager frontend :> | Jul 25 21:27 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Carl Ichan, Motorola become a lot closer .::. Size~: 72.84 KB | Jul 25 21:27 |
schestowitz | brb, making some posts | Jul 25 21:28 |
Guest19735 | this is last year Aug 5, 2010 | Jul 25 21:28 |
MinceR | any relation to iichan? | Jul 25 21:28 |
schestowitz | seems like BN is needed again | Jul 25 21:28 |
schestowitz | ichan on 4chan | Jul 25 21:28 |
schestowitz | with a tail and horns | Jul 25 21:28 |
Guest19735 | "Icahn has already been influential in how Motorola was run, as his proxy fight gave his reps two seats on the board of directors. Icahn is also well-known for pushing the company to spin off its struggling cell phone division into its own public company." | Jul 25 21:29 |
schestowitz | Guest19735: a match made in Hell,but only Carl enjoys it | Jul 25 21:29 |
Guest19735 | So Icahn already had 2 reps on the Board last year | Jul 25 21:29 |
schestowitz | yet motorola sued back against MS | Jul 25 21:29 |
Guest19735 | http://www.gurufocus.com/news/106616/carl-icahns-favorite-stock--motorola | Jul 25 21:30 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Carl Icahn's Favorite Stock -- Motorola .::. Size~: 82.44 KB | Jul 25 21:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Extensions to the CSS Object Model http://ow.ly/1dXyE1 | Jul 25 21:30 | |
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Guest19735 | another 10 month old article but very good one with some insite as to his plans | Jul 25 21:31 |
Guest19735 | "(Motorola's wireless network assets are set to be sold to a joint venture run by Nokia (NOK) and Siemens (SI) later this year). " | Jul 25 21:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Police forces come together to create new regional surveillance units http://is.gd/JwIfYl #WTF #UK | Jul 25 21:32 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Police forces come together to create new regional surveillance units | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 234.5 KB | Jul 25 21:32 |
Guest19735 | He maybe right about the stock price going up though | Jul 25 21:33 |
Guest19735 | notice the selling of wireless assets to Nokia soft | Jul 25 21:34 |
Guest19735 | could those be patents? | Jul 25 21:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is #Gestapo a German word? does it have an English translation? or do we just call it the Gestapo2.0? | Jul 25 21:34 | |
Guest19735 | so this stock buy of Motorola may actually make Icahn money unlike the Yahoo venture | Jul 25 21:38 |
ender_33 | msb_ http://articles.latimes.com/1998/apr/10/news/mn-38008 | Jul 25 21:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Empty reply from server ( http://articles.latimes.com/1998/apr/10/news/mn-38008 ) | Jul 25 21:38 |
ender_33 | Leslie Helm says that program was shut down after the article came out | Jul 25 21:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] O'Reilly: Sexual Harassment at Technical Conferences: A Big No-No http://lwn.net/Articles/452859/rss | Jul 25 21:39 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: O'Reilly: Sexual Harassment at Technical Conferences: A Big No-No [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.17 KB | Jul 25 21:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Online backups starting @5/- per month. | Jul 25 21:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: El Cartel de Patentes de los EE.UU. Reconocido, Impugnado ante los tribunales, las #swpats http://ur1.ca/4se6t EN: http://ur1.ca/4se6t | Jul 25 21:42 | |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/95592739298746368 | Jul 25 21:42 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ES: El Cartel de Patentes de los EE.UU. Reconocido, Impugnado ante los tribunales, las Patentes de Software Mueren Gradualmente | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.16 KB | Jul 25 21:42 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ES: El Cartel de Patentes de los EE.UU. Reconocido, Impugnado ante los tribunales, las Patentes de Software Mueren Gradualmente | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.16 KB | Jul 25 21:42 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @davidgerard: @rcweir @schestowitz large chunks of notes claim to work on linux (from the debs) but just don't. I deal with this every day. | Jul 25 21:42 |
schestowitz | [21:39] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [lwnnet/@lwnnet] O'Reilly: Sexual Harassment at Technical Conferences: A Big No-No | Jul 25 21:43 |
schestowitz | Haven't read it | Jul 25 21:43 |
schestowitz | I am guessing | Jul 25 21:43 |
schestowitz | Sexual Harassment = coming on to someone | Jul 25 21:43 |
schestowitz | !google elevatorgate | Jul 25 21:43 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - search.twitter.com | http://search.twitter.com/search%3Fq%3D%2523elevatorgate | Jul 25 21:43 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Elevatorgate | DLandonCole.com | http://dlandoncole.com/node/75 | Jul 25 21:43 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Enterprise Elevator Products | http://www.elevatorgates.com/ | Jul 25 21:43 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Atheist Experience™: Oh hell, is Elevatorgate going to ruin TAM9? | http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2011/07/oh-hell-is-elevatorgate-going-to-ruin.html | Jul 25 21:43 |
schestowitz | This one is also a new inident http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JA4EPRbWhQ | Jul 25 21:44 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: It's Only Sexist When Men Do It - YouTube .::. Size~: 175.96 KB | Jul 25 21:44 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] «Wow, an Open Source potato!» Nathan Ford in #Leverage. Lol. Microsoft, we get there as good guys even when you pay for ads in the series. | Jul 25 21:49 | |
ThistleWeb | not to be confused with cumming on top of someone | Jul 25 21:52 |
*gde33 (kvirc@546A1A51.cm-12-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights | Jul 25 21:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] thwart the UK secret police - use #Linux, lock yer screen while the workmen are in, & watch them like hawks | Jul 25 21:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] http://www.hackerbus.eu/ Support Moritz in his hackerspace travels. | Jul 25 21:55 | |
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ender_33 | That's a great quote -- "DrPizza" blames Microsoft Windows vulnerability to millions of viruses on "user stupidity". | Jul 25 21:59 |
ender_33 | I do too | Jul 25 21:59 |
Guest19735 | as in stupid to use windows? | Jul 25 22:00 |
ender_33 | yes | Jul 25 22:00 |
schestowitz | :-) | Jul 25 22:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Disc deathbed: Is the optical drive obsolete? (MSNBC): http://on.today.com/mPSNqy | Jul 25 22:01 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Disc deathbed: Is the optical drive obsolete? - TODAY Tech - TODAY.com .::. Size~: 67.35 KB | Jul 25 22:01 |
schestowitz | He's not that Bright, is he? | Jul 25 22:01 |
Guest19735 | I was discussing Windows 8 ARM edition vaporware with a friend in the linux community the other day. Stating that it is supposed to be malware free using net or html software only (maybe) from MS Market. | Jul 25 22:04 |
MinceR | also use case-free | Jul 25 22:05 |
Guest19735 | The friend said it will not be malware free for long, as IE would be its browser, and therefore drive by internet malware will quickly be written for the future ARM 8 Windows | Jul 25 22:05 |
MinceR | then only use case-free | Jul 25 22:06 |
MinceR | oh well, i guess it will be a bit like chrome os, only a lot worse | Jul 25 22:06 |
Guest19735 | as it is doubtful MS will use proper sercurity as default | Jul 25 22:06 |
ender_33 | Windows 8 is Windows Phone 7 + Windows 7 | Jul 25 22:06 |
ender_33 | 7+7 = 8 | Jul 25 22:06 |
ender_33 | ;) | Jul 25 22:06 |
ThistleWeb | Microsoft long ago decided to enable stuff by default instead of teaching users what it was, so they could run their own services without the user saying "it's broken" | Jul 25 22:07 |
ThistleWeb | hence the active x hassle | Jul 25 22:07 |
Guest19735 | they added the metro (wp7) menu on the front end and some newer wallpaper, that will be about it for the intel version | Jul 25 22:07 |
ThistleWeb | didn't take a genius to spot that malware writers would hook into that "enabled by default" to install malware on people's pcs | Jul 25 22:08 |
ThistleWeb | but then again, Microsoft never saw the internet coming, so maybe it's plausable that they didn't spot that logical extension | Jul 25 22:08 |
Guest19735 | The point is to expect MS to say that Windows ARM 8 will be malware free | Jul 25 22:09 |
MinceR | they never cared anyway | Jul 25 22:09 |
Guest19735 | as a selling point | Jul 25 22:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Apparently Mac OSX Lion has these new amazing shiny magical [TM] features http://gotu.me/lion [Warning: may cause hair loss] #crapple | Jul 25 22:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google+ is a SPAM machine masquerading as your friends trying to share links with you. Why should I have to opt out? I never opted _in_. | Jul 25 22:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 100,000,000 Reasons to Boycott #SUSE http://ur1.ca/4sebx proving yet again that @boycottnovell was right and we need to antagonise #sellout | Jul 25 22:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] 100,000,000 Reasons to Boycott #SUSE http://ur1.ca/4sebx #opensuse #novell #microsoft #swpats #mono #compiracy #collusion | Jul 25 22:09 | |
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ThistleWeb | malware supports an industry of companies | Jul 25 22:09 |
ThistleWeb | if it was designed to last, they wouldn't get people buying new PCs every few years | Jul 25 22:10 |
Guest19735 | have already seen posted comments now from suspected MS shills promoting Windows Arm 8 as malware free | Jul 25 22:10 |
MinceR | there's a way it could be malware-free | Jul 25 22:11 |
ThistleWeb | while it's non existent, it's hard for even the most determined malware writers to get to work, so maybe it is...for now | Jul 25 22:11 |
MinceR | if they never release it | Jul 25 22:11 |
Guest19735 | it could be trojan free at first | Jul 25 22:11 |
Guest19735 | yes, for now | Jul 25 22:12 |
Guest19735 | http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-07-icahn-motorola-patents-cash.html | Jul 25 22:13 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Icahn pushes Motorola to turn patents into cash .::. Size~: 61.03 KB | Jul 25 22:13 |
Guest19735 | "Shares of cellphone maker Motorola Mobility Holdings jumped to a four-month high Thursday after activist investor Carl Icahn disclosed that he's pushing the company to squeeze profits from its vast patent portfolio." | Jul 25 22:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] This week's Leverage plays against Monsanto with 'open source' potatoes. Lol | Jul 25 22:14 | |
MinceR | can't squeeze profits from products anymore? | Jul 25 22:15 |
Guest19735 | Motorola is not doing too bad with Android | Jul 25 22:15 |
Guest19735 | "Motorola said Thursday that it continues to review its options and that the turnaround of its cellphone sales is in part due to its 17,000 patents." | Jul 25 22:16 |
Guest19735 | "Though Motorola is now only small player in the global cellphone market, it was a pioneer of the technology and was the second-largest phone maker in the world just five years ago. That means it has far more phone patents than its size suggests." | Jul 25 22:17 |
Guest19735 | Could it be that Motorola has a very good legal defense against the MS lawsuit? | Jul 25 22:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Microsoft apologizes for 'vile' Amy Winehouse tweet http://tinyurl.com/44y5nwk #microsoft #fail #mvpbuzz #mvp #windows #xp #wp7 | Jul 25 22:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh I have a hat, but I'm at work in the office right now | Jul 25 22:21 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft apologizes for 'vile' Amy Winehouse tweet | Technically Incorrect - CNET News .::. Size~: 135.64 KB | Jul 25 22:21 |
Guest19735 | So you were all discussing the Suse extended deal with MS when I got here? | Jul 25 22:29 |
*ThistleWeb was teaching his imaginary hamster to tap dance | Jul 25 22:29 | |
Guest19735 | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/25/microsoft_suse_deal_renewed/ | Jul 25 22:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft kicks SUSE another $100m • The Register .::. Size~: 29.09 KB | Jul 25 22:29 |
ThistleWeb | no time for SuSE ;P | Jul 25 22:30 |
Guest19735 | AttachSUSE | Jul 25 22:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Not right now! We haven't even begun the show yet.... ;) | Jul 25 22:30 | |
MinceR | gn | Jul 25 22:31 |
Guest19735 | "As El Reg went to press, Rego did not know how much of the 2008 $100m deal had been burned through by Novell and now SUSE, but he said that the new $100m deal supersedes the old $100m deal, which was set to expire in January 2012. The new $100m deal runs through January 2016." | Jul 25 22:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh well hurry it up bub! ha! I'll start collecting some gear | Jul 25 22:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] damn, I should never have listened to Bron-Y-Aur-Stomp - it's stuck in my head | Jul 25 22:32 | |
Guest19735 | "An interesting tidbit appeared in the joint Microsoft-SUSE announcement on the new deal: only 725 customers have bought SUSE Linux support under the agreement. That's a lot of money for a relatively small number of customers" | Jul 25 22:33 |
ender_33 | http://www.physorg.com/news184484254.html | Jul 25 22:33 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Darwin descended from Cro-Magnon man: scientists .::. Size~: 59.7 KB | Jul 25 22:33 |
ender_33 | he sure did | Jul 25 22:33 |
Guest19735 | only '725 customers'? is this on the same order as the Kin and WP7? a failure | Jul 25 22:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Cool. @methoddan and I just came up with the concept a few hours ago.... ;) | Jul 25 22:34 | |
Guest19735 | Suse sure has fallen on the Distrowatch ratings, although those are not a great way to measure the popularity of a distro. | Jul 25 22:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh And the first episode isn't out yet? #slacker | Jul 25 22:37 | |
Guest19735 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Icahn | Jul 25 22:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Carl Icahn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 79.22 KB | Jul 25 22:38 |
Guest19735 | "He has taken substantial or controlling positions in various corporations including RJR Nabisco, TWA, Texaco, Phillips Petroleum, Western Union, Gulf & Western, Viacom, Uniroyal, Dan River, Marshall Field's, E-II (Culligan and Samsonite), American Can, USX, Marvel Comics, Revlon, Imclone, Federal-Mogul, Fairmont Hotels, Blockbuster, Kerr-McGee, Time Warner and Motorola." | Jul 25 22:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @x11r5 @tekk Again, i said yes. 10 Minutes of nyan cat is all i can see you using pidgin itself for that, any pointers?? | Jul 25 22:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] http://ur1.ca/4sehk at least we're not detroit! | Jul 25 22:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra LOL. You better come on as a guest or YOU are the slacker. ;) | Jul 25 22:41 | |
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Guest19735 | "Icahn was a director of Blockbuster until January 2010, and the chairman of Imclone, Icahn Enterprises, XO Communications, WestPoint Home, Cadus, and American Railcar Industries." | Jul 25 22:41 |
Guest19735 | when he raided and took over blockbuster, they started steaming movies using MS DRM | Jul 25 22:42 |
_Goblin | "An interesting tidbit appeared in the joint Microsoft-SUSE announcement on the new deal: only 725 customers have bought SUSE Linux support under the agreement." ---> Thats about as many as the amount of Kin's that were sold.... ;) | Jul 25 22:47 |
Guest19735 | 100 milliion for 725 customers, those be expensive licenses | Jul 25 22:51 |
Guest19735 | But why should Ballmer care? He blew 8.5 billion on Skype, billions on the Nokia deal, when Nokia is most likely to implode and go broke or sellout soon. | Jul 25 22:53 |
_Goblin | I still think he bought Skype to secure his job.....thats his Skype vision and after blowing all that money will they want to cut him loose? They will want to see what he does with it.... | Jul 25 22:54 |
_Goblin | ballmer goes......Microsoft is left with an expensive Skype purchase. | Jul 25 22:54 |
Guest19735 | Online is bleeding 2.5 billion a year now (Bing/MSN), and Window Phone is a failure like the Kin, In fact, Windows Phone only thing it has going for it is the future Nokia vaporphones. | Jul 25 22:56 |
Guest19735 | Nokia is fast becoming a ghost of itself with Elop at the helm. By the time it rolls out WP, an system that has worse than poor sales, Nokia will have almost no market share left. | Jul 25 22:58 |
Guest19735 | Nokia is now thanks in part to Elop, the number 3 producer of smartphones behind Samsung | Jul 25 22:59 |
_Goblin | I think its long since been the case of Microsoft sustaining itself (mostly) from Office/Windows | Jul 25 22:59 |
_Goblin | oh and apparently making more money from Android than its own WP7 | Jul 25 23:00 |
_Goblin | brb.... | Jul 25 23:00 |
Guest19735 | yes, and I would say that server is still windows, and corporate sales are still sales of windows, windows server and office mostly | Jul 25 23:01 |
Guest19735 | so really Windows is the underpinning pony and windows and office are the cash cows | Jul 25 23:02 |
Guest19735 | MS is really only a one trick pony | Jul 25 23:02 |
Guest19735 | The increase in MS Office sales are the results of putting MS Office Trial on all new computers | Jul 25 23:03 |
Guest19735 | at some point the increase from that will start to fade | Jul 25 23:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @bkuhn @fontana, That's my point! I'm betting !Canonical is banking on most people not *realizing* the #CLA in question is essentiall ... | Jul 25 23:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Microsoft renews agreement to prop up Novell/SUSE: http://wmk.me/nxBJiy | Jul 25 23:07 | |
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Guest19735 | In fact, the dismissal Online divison at MS (Bing/MSN) is so bad that it impacts Yahoo revenues. | Jul 25 23:08 |
Guest19735 | MS Online has lost money for the last six years. | Jul 25 23:08 |
Guest19735 | Remember those MS shills sites that said Nokia/WP7 would surpass iPhone and be number 2 by 2013? | Jul 25 23:10 |
Guest19735 | http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/7/25/microsoft-nokia-best-case-scenario-825-market-share-in-2013.aspx | Jul 25 23:10 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Nokia Best Case Scenario: 8% Market Share in 2013 - Bright Side Of News* .::. Size~: 92.89 KB | Jul 25 23:10 |
Guest19735 | best case* worse case they will be bankrupt. | Jul 25 23:11 |
Guest19735 | Ballmer is probably holding on with this nokia will save WP7 deal. At least until shareholders and maybe the board wakes up. | Jul 25 23:13 |
Guest19735 | Windows Phone is a complete Kin type of failure, that along with the failure of Online should have been enough for Ballmer to have found the door one last time. | Jul 25 23:14 |
Guest19735 | Bada sales are almost twice the sales of WP7 | Jul 25 23:16 |
Guest19735 | "We know Nokia will end this year with about 7% market share and about 11 million smartphone sales (generating massive losses) as it launches the first Microsoft based smartphone a little before Christmas." | Jul 25 23:17 |
Guest19735 | that from the last link | Jul 25 23:17 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[michaelgeist/@michaelgeist] mgeist: York University announces that it plans to opt-out of Access Copyright interim tariff effective Sept 2011 h... http://ping.fm/82ZYO | Jul 25 23:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft extends SUSE Linux partnership (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/qlV4Zm | Jul 25 23:17 | |
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Guest19735 | The future of Ballmer as MS CEO is directly tyed to the health of Nokia sales of wP7 | Jul 25 23:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good evening !identica | Jul 25 23:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM speeds storage with flash: 10B files in 43 minutes (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/pC06sS | Jul 25 23:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] feeling somewhat better, bad migraine day today :( | Jul 25 23:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @michaelgeist mgeist: York University announces that it plans to opt-out of Access Copyright interim tariff effective Sept 2011 h... ... | Jul 25 23:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Super Collision At Studio Dave: The New World of SuperCollider3, Part 1 (Linux Journal) http://lwn.net/Articles/452875/rss | Jul 25 23:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Mozilla Prepares Its Own Web-Based Operating System | Phoronix http://goo.gl/etP7z | Jul 25 23:26 | |
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Guest19735 | http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/clendenin-says-nokia-will-never-dominate-market-again/2011/07/21/gIQAv6vtSI_video.html | Jul 25 23:28 |
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Guest19735 | http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/samsung-smartphone-sales-surpassed-nokia-possibly-apple/ | Jul 25 23:28 |
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Guest19735 | http://www.businessweek.com/technology/as-bad-as-it-seems-now-nokias-future-looks-worse-07222011.html | Jul 25 23:32 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: As Bad As It Seems Now, Nokia's Future Looks Worse - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 62.97 KB | Jul 25 23:32 |
Guest19735 | "After revising its earnings estimates downward in May, Nokia on Thursday shared abysmal results for the second quarter. The onetime clear leader of the first smartphone era has tumbled down to what looks like the third spot for smartphone sales, definitely behind Apple and likely behind Samsung as well. With a new chief executive in Stephen Elop, Nokia is surely in transition, but a transition to what?" | Jul 25 23:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rage Against the Masochist http://ur1.ca/4serp #intellectualventures #swpats #uspto #npr #microsoft #lodsys | Jul 25 23:34 | |
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Guest19735 | http://gigaom.com/2011/07/21/nokia-on-the-ropes-as-it-posts-692m-loss/ | Jul 25 23:34 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia on the ropes as it posts $692M loss — Tech News and Analysis .::. Size~: 91.12 KB | Jul 25 23:34 |
Guest19735 | "Announcing its second quarter results today, the Finnish handset maker said that from April to June it posted a loss of ?487 million ? or $692 million ? on revenues of ?9.275 billion ($13.2 billion). Not only does that send the company crashing into the red, but it also means sales are down 11 percent on the previous quarter, and down 8 percent, or more than a billion dollars, from the same time last year." | Jul 25 23:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Rage Against the Masochist http://ur1.ca/4serp #cartel #patenttroll #android #oracle #google #android #amazon #monopoly | Jul 25 23:36 | |
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Guest19735 | http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2011072543828 | Jul 25 23:39 |
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schestowitz | [22:10] <Guest19735> have already seen posted comments now from suspected MS shills promoting Windows Arm 8 as malware free | Jul 25 23:39 |
schestowitz | Well, when only 10 apps run on your OS, then not many malicious software exists :-) | Jul 25 23:39 |
Guest19735 | true | Jul 25 23:39 |
schestowitz | Let's see. MineSweeper for ARM, Solitaire, Paint.. | Jul 25 23:40 |
schestowitz | RedEdit for ARM | Jul 25 23:40 |
schestowitz | Scandisk for ARM | Jul 25 23:40 |
schestowitz | All those goodies | Jul 25 23:40 |
schestowitz | Wow. I need a new pair... so excited... dre | Jul 25 23:40 |
schestowitz | defrag for arm | Jul 25 23:40 |
schestowitz | Now I can defrag the drive and use up less electricity | Jul 25 23:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] S'okay. If the denting is too loud i can always climb back under an icepack @gomerx | Jul 25 23:41 | |
schestowitz | Take THAT, Linux! | Jul 25 23:41 |
_Goblin | Roy, when are you going on hols? | Jul 25 23:41 |
Guest19735 | "A U.S.-based website last month released a list of brands that will likely disappear next year due to mergers and acquisitions, putting Nokia?s mobile phones on top. Rumors say Microsoft or Samsung Electronics could take over the Finnish company. Nokia?s earnings and prospects, however, demonstrate that the company holds little attraction for acquisition." | Jul 25 23:42 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[O]nly 725 customers have bought SUSE Linux support under the agreement." http://ur1.ca/4setm they just about beat KIN. Success! #novell | Jul 25 23:44 | |
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schestowitz | [23:02] <Guest19735> MS is really only a one trick pony << let by a one-trick donkey (throwing a chair is the trick) | Jul 25 23:45 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: tomorrow early | Jul 25 23:45 |
_Goblin | ah..... | Jul 25 23:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] good evening @laurelrusswurm | Jul 25 23:46 | |
_Goblin | you going to be online at all or is it a total holiday from everything? | Jul 25 23:46 |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/homembit/status/95624126777135104?iid=am-203724525013116335434977849&nid=4&uid=26603208 | Jul 25 23:46 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @homembit: @schestowitz and also put MS formats in OpenOffice.... This is my question: What is *the real* Suse role at LibreOffice right now ! | Jul 25 23:46 |
schestowitz | They are dominant in the IRC channel, development too | Jul 25 23:47 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/homembit/status/95624350123827200 | Jul 25 23:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @homembit: @schestowitz I trust on the Suse folks at TDF, but I don't trust on the people receiving their reports and giving orders. | Jul 25 23:47 |
schestowitz | Me neither | Jul 25 23:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I don't think it matters what fans want if the copyright holder corporation chooses to keep the original work locked under copyright | Jul 25 23:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz as it was, the principals shut down the fan interest. Whether because of copyright holder or fan pressure it is hard to know | Jul 25 23:51 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 'evening @eebrah :) | Jul 25 23:51 | |
Guest19735 | http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/2011/07/22/nokia-goes-disastrous-with-q2-results/ | Jul 25 23:51 |
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Guest19735 | "Well we all had been anticipating that, quite frankly. With the Q2 results of Nokia made public, even the blind can see the future." | Jul 25 23:52 |
Guest19735 | "The operating profits have sunk to 44% since Q1 of this year, down 44% from 704 million Euros to 391 million Euros. Sales are down, way down. The net sales have plummeted 23% since Q1 2011 and 20% from Q2 last year." | Jul 25 23:52 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: while you are away I may be able to get sorted with my solo effort....so if you get a chance try to catch it whilst you are away | Jul 25 23:53 |
Guest19735 | http://articles.boston.com/2011-07-22/business/29803959_1_ericsson-nokia-new-plan | Jul 25 23:56 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Empty reply from server ( http://articles.boston.com/2011-07-22/business/29803959_1_ericsson-nokia-new-plan ) | Jul 25 23:56 |
Guest19735 | Title: Nokia, Ericsson speed cost cut plans | Jul 25 23:56 |
Guest19735 | "Nokia, the largest seller of mobile phones by volume, said it planned to cut more than the $1.43 billion it had previously planned to trim from its operating expenses by 2013. The company, based in Espoo, Finland, did not specify a new target. It revealed the new plan as it reported a loss of $530 million in the second quarter." | Jul 25 23:57 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: excellent, we need to support these efforts too | Jul 25 23:57 |
Guest19735 | We know what the term cost cutting means. It means more layoffs for Nokia. | Jul 25 23:57 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @davidgerard: Stay classy, Microsoft. http://t.co/HZg5GuU | Jul 25 23:57 | |
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sebsebseb | Hi | Jul 25 23:57 |
schestowitz | Guest19735: or moving to CHina more | Jul 25 23:58 |
Guest19735 | yes, offshoring too | Jul 25 23:58 |
schestowitz | but that's where they already make most phones | Jul 25 23:58 |
schestowitz | send ELop's job to China | Jul 25 23:58 |
schestowitz | Anybody would do better than a mole | Jul 25 23:58 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] hey there @maloki :) | Jul 25 23:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] friend of freedom, yes, fearless, not so much ;) @cer | Jul 25 23:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody New Study: #Piracy Increases The Quality Of Content - http://bit.ly/qPb7mr makes sense if you think about it | Jul 25 23:59 | |
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Guest19735 | Elop's burning platform memo, sure burnt the profits of Nokia shareholders down quickly. | Jul 25 23:59 |
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