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amarsh04actually no, about AUD$120 each day - less than what I paid for a David Bowie concer Aug 26 00:00
amarsh04t ticket  a few years backAug 26 00:00
schestowitzBut Tokyo hotels must cost a fortuneAug 26 00:03
amarsh04I'm paying about 6300 yen per night - less than what I paid in Sydney, less than $100 per nightAug 26 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New Text Search Uncovers Disease Ties and Safety Data Hiding in Electronic Health Records (SciAmerican): http://bit.ly/nLPnb6Aug 26 00:05
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amarsh04 anyway, I must go and let others use this pcAug 26 00:06
amarsh04this hotel room is the cleanest I have ever stayed in - Annex Katsutaro RyokanAug 26 00:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] {VIDEO} Waiting for your personal tour? Wait no longer! #linux20th Gallery here: http://bit.ly/nNZwuk (who drank all the whiskey?)Aug 26 00:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://t.co/3aG6H2JAug 26 00:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] NYC shop worker arrested for selling intentionally fake items. https://eff.org/r.5AWAug 26 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Check out my Ubuntu 11.10 (So Far) Screenshot Tour - http://is.gd/MYa5Jo #ubuntu #locoteams #ugjAug 26 00:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Rockin'!! xD http://ur1.ca/4yurgAug 26 00:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Rockin'!! xD http://identi.ca/attachment/51880064Aug 26 00:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Rockin'!! xD http://file.status.net/i/identica/jankusanagi-20110825T232518-s3hdk4e.jpegAug 26 00:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Appears #linux shares a birthday with Tim Burton. Happy Birthday Tim Burton is trending. Can Linux? Go!Aug 26 00:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ohhhh i am in pain.... gardening muscles i've been ignoring all summer don't access as easily as they used to <must be an old broad !silverAug 26 01:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks supporters' favourite video http://t.co/rODiGLpAug 26 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bobjonkman See @kaz, the Cyborg Lawyer Running On Proprietary Software http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFZGpES-St8 #faifAug 26 01:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "I don't want to rely on one company for any part of my life."~@kaz !q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFZGpES-St8 !fsw #heart #fdaAug 26 01:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rms Unpublished Wikileaks http://ur1.ca/4yvoyAug 26 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] For attendees of the Linux Security Summit, it will be held in the Sonoma Mountain conf. room - http://is.gd/fHU5PeAug 26 01:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan and since Riker butchered the movie Thunderbirds, more so :(Aug 26 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Finally received the new !android market update!Aug 26 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @quaid http://i.imgur.com/jUwht.jpg < My work day in a nutshell. Thanks, Internet!Aug 26 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 18 US diplomatic cables on sex slavery http://t.co/rNb5Oe9sex+slaveAug 26 01:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] people called me insane... 'don't forget he is from Holland'! I waded the car though more than 30cm's of water this morning. Insane rainfallAug 26 02:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] and yes... I have the video to proof it! will upload this later today...Aug 26 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 18 US diplomatic cables on sex slaves http://t.co/ZolMRMMAug 26 02:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] one photo of the situation before entering the crossing #rainfall #beijing #shilihe http://is.gd/04aFTKAug 26 02:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Brief pictorial history of toilets. :-) http://www.scientificamerican.com/slideshow.cfm?id=health-brief-history-of-toilet #fbAug 26 02:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Post-Jobs, Apple Needs to Open Up http://tinyurl.com/3hqqzlkAug 26 02:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] It's weird now whenever I code without the #Drupal API. Feels like my legs are flailing in thin air.Aug 26 02:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] heavy rainfall in !Beijing, crossing at shiliheqiao http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kZqP4bvTJk < feels like I bought a boat! #insaneAug 26 02:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rahulsundaram Got #SELinux? http://is.gd/eDf5ou #Fedora < In response to Breaking out of !KVM http://is.gd/qzngAh #blackhatAug 26 03:15
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twitterha ha, not even Forbes can hide the hit HP backing out of the market represents.Aug 26 03:30
twitterhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2011/08/22/microsoft-seeing-pc-weakness-davenport-downgrades-to-hold/Aug 26 03:30
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twitter-> “Given Dell and HP’s sharp reduction in their annual guidance, we are concerned that PC unit sales may remain flat or decline this year,” he writes. “There is potential risk that Hewlett Packard’s announcement that it is pursuing strategic alternatives for its PC business  could contribute to lower consumer and enterprise demand for Hewlett Packard’s PCs and could contribute to lower industry PC demand.”Aug 26 03:31
twitter[Davenport & Co. analyst F. Drake Johnstone]  is now concerned about a decline in public sector spending, a sharp fall in consumer spending, and a slowdown in corporate IT spending.Aug 26 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke so you too are an #EPL hater?Aug 26 03:42
twitterHmm, Google is just as big as Microsoft, by market cap.  http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:MSFTAug 26 03:43
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twitterGoogle, 205.9, Microsoft 205.9 billion US dollarsAug 26 03:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke I remember some of my contemporaries worrying about a #DesertStorm draft for a day or soAug 26 03:44
twittererrr, scratch that.Aug 26 03:44
twitterGoogle is at 167 billionAug 26 03:44
twitterthe display of related stocks seems to have been in errorAug 26 03:45
twitternope, I read the table wrong.Aug 26 03:45
twitterIBM is almost as bigAug 26 03:45
twitterAs Microsoft implodes, the value will be transferred Aug 26 03:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @douglasawh perhaps one of these days #EPL will not mean English Premier League to me...or perhaps they'll just go GPLAug 26 03:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @fontana Ah, thanks for the inspiration to look it up. As I had guessed, #vietnam was the last time people were drafted. http://ur1.ca/4ywdqAug 26 04:02
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Ziomatrixeveryone is pannicking over a hurricane hitting major east coast cities in the US. Some are accessing the potential infastructure and fiscal impact on major trans-Atlantic lines or backbones as well as one of the biggest "blogging" capitals of the world, Aug 26 04:13
ZiomatrixNYC.Aug 26 04:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fontana supposedly not enforced though. Either way I'm hoping to be out of the country by the time I have to reg for ssAug 26 04:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke I think it would have been politically unthinkable then (despite #DesertStorm popularity)Aug 26 04:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @clacke Only post- #Vietnam moment where draft was politically viable was immediate aftermath of 2001-09-11Aug 26 04:19
twitterI'm sure NYC will do just fineAug 26 04:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fontana though a kind of sexism we're not very used to :PAug 26 04:22
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DaemonFChttp://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=caeb3cdf2f6295b1b82ace2ad3ca6f7c9970fe17Aug 26 04:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library .::. Size~: 54.98 KBAug 26 04:26
DaemonFC+ * Copyright (C) 2010 Fernando Navarro (fernandn@microsoft.com)Aug 26 04:26
DaemonFChehAug 26 04:26
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: lol I thought it said, Copyright (C) 2010 Fernando Noriega.Aug 26 04:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ... and Ronald #Reagan campaigned to end #SelectiveService in 1980 but never actually did, and no one ever did subsequently.Aug 26 04:27
DaemonFC"Only for use in the Mesa project"Aug 26 04:27
DaemonFCdoesn't that make it nonfree?Aug 26 04:27
DaemonFCand it also violates the OSI open source definitionAug 26 04:28
twitterthey put in a banner add for themselves, is that common?Aug 26 04:31
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twitterlooks like the point 2 is only for the naming of "technique" after one of the authorsAug 26 04:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fontana but it obviously falls under the punishment exception: you were born in the US, therefore you must do #SelectiveServece ;PAug 26 04:34
twitterleave it to Microsoft to make things impossible to understandAug 26 04:34
twitterIf there's a problem understanding the headers, the whole diff should be rejected.Aug 26 04:34
twitterLOL, one match http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Afreedesktop.org+Jorge+Jimenez&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8Aug 26 04:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: site:freedesktop.org Jorge Jimenez - Google Search .::. Size~: 78.35 KBAug 26 04:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @shaunmallette: you can post something to only share w/ your circles on G+ but you can search your name on google search & there they areAug 26 04:35
DaemonFConly mesa can use itAug 26 04:37
DaemonFCand they have to stick in an advertising clause Aug 26 04:37
DaemonFCthat's free/open how?Aug 26 04:37
twitterI'm not sure only mesa can use itAug 26 04:37
twitterit may be that only mesa has to have the advertising and only mesa has to call it after Jorge Aug 26 04:38
twitterbut if that's not acceptable or clear then free desktop should reject the patch as non freeAug 26 04:38
twitterJorge only seems to have shown up in this one patch, though there seems to be a lot from other Jimenez's in the project.  I wonder if they want to be blamed for the Jimenez Masia Echevarria Navarro Guiterrez Kasanen patch.Aug 26 04:40
twitterthanks for the brain foodAug 26 04:40
DaemonFCit's weird that one patch shows up with Microsoft in the email address of one of the contributors, and has two stipulations which are unclear and possibly make it nonfreeAug 26 04:41
DaemonFCyet they are quick to merge itAug 26 04:41
twitterwere they, or was it slipped in at a strange time?Aug 26 04:42
twitterWhen Microsoft is involved and something is odd, it's Microsoft's fault.Aug 26 04:42
SnitParanoia is cute.  :)Aug 26 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fontana problem being that there aren't even any #FedoraFree bsd distros ;)Aug 26 04:44
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twitterYou are not paranoid when they really are out to get you.Aug 26 04:44
twitterMicrosoft really hates free software.Aug 26 04:45
twitterand they plan as much harm as possibleAug 26 04:45
SnitBut you, as the scared one, are not in a good position to judge.  Esp. when you make statements like the above.Aug 26 04:45
SnitAh, by all means support the idea that MS hates free software.Aug 26 04:45
twitterI'm not afraid and I don't need their code.Aug 26 04:45
DaemonFCwhat's also interesting is that AMD claims only the RadeonHD 6000 series can do MLAAAug 26 04:46
DaemonFCand that's true with CatalystAug 26 04:46
SnitYou fear MS... it shows in the comment "When Microsoft is involved and something is odd, it's Microsoft's fault."Aug 26 04:46
twitterhttp://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/219107Aug 26 04:46
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DaemonFCbut my 5670 and 4670 cards do it fine with MesaAug 26 04:46
SnitIf you do not need their code why do you care if it is free?Aug 26 04:46
SnitSlight change of topic: Is it OK to take other's ideas, modify them some, and then sell them as your own? Aug 26 04:46
DaemonFCI wonder if that means it's an intentional crippling of the hardware by AMDAug 26 04:46
DaemonFCvia their driver disabling it on anything but their newest cardsAug 26 04:47
SnitEven if they do not approve... obviously if they approve it is OK.Aug 26 04:47
SnitCurious what people thinkAug 26 04:47
twitterIck.  It's DirectX crap.  What the hell is that doing in MESA?  http://www.geeks3d.com/20101023/tips-what-is-the-morphological-anti-aliasing-mlaa/Aug 26 04:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [TIPS] What is the Morphological Anti-Aliasing (MLAA)? - 3D Tech News, Pixel Hacking, Data Visualization and 3D Programming - Geeks3D.com .::. Size~: 89.55 KBAug 26 04:49
twitterLooks like a really basic technique.Aug 26 04:50
twitterMicrosoft probably has a patent on it.Aug 26 04:50
DaemonFCthere's a directx state tracker for mesaAug 26 04:50
twitteris this what AMD refers to the technique asAug 26 04:50
twitter?Aug 26 04:50
twitteror is Microsoft just trying to shove a name in so they can sue later?  Aug 26 04:51
SnitIs it OK to take other's ideas, modify them some, and then sell them as your own?  Even if they do not approve... obviously if they approve it is OK.Aug 26 04:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @quaid http://i.imgur.com/jUwht.jpg < My work day in a nutshell. Thanks, Internet!Aug 26 04:52
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twitterthat page links back to "mainly open source" code http://igm.univ-mlv.fr/~biri/mlaa-gpu/index.php?idmenu=1Aug 26 04:53
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twitterimplemented on PS3, beats Xbox... ha ha.... http://www.highdefforum.com/gaming-systems/107094-mlaa-technique-can-give-results-4x-better-than-16x-msaa.htmlAug 26 04:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MLAA technique can give results 4x better than 16x MSAA - High Def Forum - Your High Definition Community & High Definition Resource .::. Size~: 114.87 KBAug 26 04:54
twitter-> " The screenshots may not be showing MLAA, and it's almost certainly not a technique as experimental as we thought it was, but it's certainly the case that this is the most impressive form of this type of anti-aliasing we've seen to date in a console game. Certainly, as we alluded to originally, the concept of using an edge-filter/blur combination isn't new, and continues to be refined. This document by Isshiki and Kunieda published inAug 26 04:55
twitter"Aug 26 04:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] NoSQL offers scalability, flexibility, speed (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/rkqlLkAug 26 04:55
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DaemonFCmlaa is much less computationally expensive than msaa, but I can't say I like the results as muchAug 26 04:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @markey Interview with Aaron Seigo of !KDE : http://derstandard.at/1313025130807/Interview-Aaron-Seigo-talks-about-the-KDE-SC-50---an ...Aug 26 04:57
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twitterI can see above that the idea is sorta obvious, having been presented at least as early as 1999. Aug 26 04:58
twitterThat makes the naming banner pretentious.Aug 26 04:58
twitterthey claim a name for something that's been around for a whileAug 26 04:58
twitterperhaps the method or code is clever, I can't tell without a lot more lookingAug 26 04:59
twitterpeople familiar with the project will know.Aug 26 04:59
twitterhow did you dig this diff up, DaemonFC?Aug 26 05:00
DaemonFCit could be called blur and smudge antialiasing Aug 26 05:00
DaemonFCbut that doesn't sound as niceAug 26 05:00
DaemonFCmesa's git commit log Aug 26 05:01
DaemonFC:)Aug 26 05:01
twitteryou watch it?Aug 26 05:01
DaemonFCyeahAug 26 05:01
twittercool for youAug 26 05:01
twitterI'd like to chat more, but it is time for me to hit the road and sleepAug 26 05:01
twittergnAug 26 05:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Was Tony involved with the Temasek CEO turnaround? http://wikileaks.org/cable/2009/07/09SINGAPORE695.html#fb #sgpoliticsAug 26 05:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] Where, oh, where is that excellent blog post from 1-2 years ago about culling the #cc license herd? Help me #lazyweb, you're my only hope!Aug 26 05:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] @tekk #SS gives ... interesting connotations.Aug 26 05:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @clacke ;PAug 26 05:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @clacke they're roughly equivalent #GodwinsLawStrikesAgainAug 26 05:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @mattl: I hope you'll join myself and everyone else at the FSF when we thank Jonathan Nadeau @frostbite for his internship this summerAug 26 05:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @f4bs: "Android is open too. See?" http://va.mu/EQTxAug 26 05:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @zahra: While #Arabs got busy with revolutions, #Somalia died of poverty.Aug 26 05:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] CNN Arab expert: "#Gadaffi was delusional for seeing himself as an african"Aug 26 05:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @yaso: Ferramenta pra streaming sem flash não é um mito. #fikadicaAug 26 05:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fontana: @bkuhn #Cygwin "Proprietary relicensing" inaccurate. #GPL additional permission for $.Aug 26 05:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @cwebber: @osamak I admire your courage and tenacity. Keep fighting and speaking out for good!Aug 26 05:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @coyo @tekk i think !pidgin is one of the best things to ever happen to messagingAug 26 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] no decent internet access in this office and they expect us to test services #LOLAug 26 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] This sums it up very well :) https://twitter.com/#!/html5douche/status/106950590562713600Aug 26 06:15
TechrightsBot-tr@html5douche: HEY YOU KNOW WHAT WILL STILL BE AWESOME EVEN WITHOUT STEVE JOBS? THE INTERNET.Aug 26 06:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @gbraad RT @rahulsundaram Got #SELinux? http://is.gd/eDf5ou #Fedora < In response to Breaking out of !KVM http://is.gd/qzngAh #blackhatAug 26 06:44
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Snit_MinceR: I was told it was a 24 hour banAug 26 06:55
Snit_So I came back in the next dayAug 26 06:56
Snit_But whatever... Aug 26 06:56
MinceRthe original ban was still thereAug 26 06:56
MinceRi haven't heard of it being time-limitedAug 26 06:57
Snit_The request yesterday was for a one day ban.Aug 26 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana why not Establishment++, as if it was a counter? ;-)Aug 26 06:57
Snit_Because I responded to Roy's comments about Apple in a way he did not likeAug 26 06:57
Snit_Anyway, I am heading to sleep soon... so I will not be here tonightAug 26 06:57
Snit_Weird how offended cubezzz was because I noted a mistake of Roys.  And you back him on this.  Just odd.Aug 26 06:58
Snit_But I can discuss this with Roy soon.  Does not need to be re-hashed here.Aug 26 06:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @johnsu01: Burning !Trisquel discs to hand out in downtown #Boston on #FreeSoftwareFriday (first one Sep 2nd) // cool!Aug 26 06:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Why have Google Apps email [Gmail] then go ahead and set up Outlook for everyone? #plainretarded #failAug 26 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @wikileaks2: Magnet link to the latest full 220 Mbytes cablepackage as torrent: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:77DHQ3AKERTGI54V3UAHSHWPNXZUWDTHAug 26 07:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "Now that Steve Jobs and his reality distortion field have stepped down at Apple, I would like to remind ... http://b1t.it/x50Aug 26 07:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @eff: Troubling Brazilian cybercrime bill rises from the dead, threatens #privacy and #netfreedom: https://eff.org/r.2AV #meganao #AI5.1Aug 26 07:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] synchronicity: Friday's !InconstantMoon serialization takes place on the fictional friday online http://ur1.ca/4yx1zAug 26 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] rt @quimgil RT @ariyahidayat time to bring it to #N950 #Harmattan what I did a year ago (and still demo) http://t.co/T26Suek !qtAug 26 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I need some sleep, so good night !IdentiverseAug 26 07:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Wikipedia article on #CLA's horrifyingly bad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contributor_License_AgreementAug 26 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk seems like @ikaruga2099 is another victim of the misleading “open source” phraseAug 26 07:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @jmorav: Realmente es una muy buena adaptación de #KDE la de #Triskel rápida, eficiente, estable y eso que aún está en alpha! #TrisquelAug 26 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk get yourself a lemote yeeloong :-)Aug 26 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: #ASUS Eee PC-X101 Unboxing, Hands On and Review – #MeeGo http://mge.bz/lnAug 26 07:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Develop4AppUp: The deadline to submit for a "Group Talk" at #AppUpElements is tomorrow, August 26th. Go Apply! http://t.co/MXRBOMhAug 26 07:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGo_OS: #MeeGo Quim Gil: How quick I got started with Qt Quick http://t.co/juWKcBtAug 26 07:50
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twitterI'm not happy about the death of i810 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTgzMgAug 26 07:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: RT @Texrat: Congratulations @sivangreenberg , @nokiadeveloper Champion of the month for August 2011! #MeeGoAug 26 07:54
twitterThis means my X30 will have to stay at Lenny or I'll have to deliberately install an older version of x.orgAug 26 07:54
twitterand no, the 10 year old beast did not run at a snail's pace with a good window managerAug 26 07:54
twitterI'm relatively disappointed by Intel's newer chip set, which has funny edge problems with composite in E16 and seems a little buggy where i810 was very stable. Aug 26 07:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sankarshan redhat.com Careers - https://careers.redhat.com/int/detail?jobid=redhat7341 : Partner Technical Evangelist http://b1t.it/x5jAug 26 08:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Firefox on the #N950 is actually quite an improvement in speed (if compared to the #N900)Aug 26 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @nernie I hope one day they will sell packages of hot-dogs/brats and buns in equal quantities so that it makes sense...Aug 26 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] #FSCONS now only 77 days away :DAug 26 09:05
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MinceRit's a pity that they throw out drivers for old hardware at allAug 26 09:16
MinceRthey should know better than thatAug 26 09:16
MinceRgeekingsAug 26 09:17
schestowitz"Their drivers are crap from what I can seeAug 26 09:17
schestowitzThey freeze the screen, leaving only the cursor to moveAug 26 09:17
schestowitzLOL that "s*it" idiot needs to get out moreAug 26 09:18
schestowitzHe doesn't know the phrase, "when did you stop beating your wife"Aug 26 09:18
schestowitzThat baffoon took it literallyAug 26 09:18
schestowitzSo that he and COLA scum can accuse me of stuff I can't be accused ofAug 26 09:18
schestowitzThis reminder me of when Obama said "lipstick on a pig" and Repugnicans riled up the masses saying that he was calling Palin a pig :-)Aug 26 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: !Ubuntu 11.10 (So Far) Screenshot Tour http://goo.gl/mQ4ByAug 26 09:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #iloveubuntu: !Unity 3D 4.10 released with new controls, improved design, performance enhancements and more http://goo.gl/990qg !uAug 26 09:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ars Technica - March of the #Penguin: Ars looks back at 20 years of !Linux http://goo.gl/HNmIhAug 26 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: !Ubuntu 11.10 Update: New Software Center Icon, !Unity Changes, Window Controls, More http://goo.gl/okACpAug 26 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @neustradamus Do not forget that there is a !StatusNet bug party tomorrow for the 1.0 RC1 release http://tinyurl.com/SN110827-bugpart ...Aug 26 09:35
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schestowitzMinceR: I will post a cOLA clarificationAug 26 09:47
schestowitz"Exploiting People's Illness to Defend Sociopathic Behaviour"Aug 26 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] #lo224 let lol happen as @fabsh is jokingly accused of ddosing !identica :-)Aug 26 09:49
schestowitz> The trolls have sunk to new lows where they try to mis-portray legitimateAug 26 09:49
schestowitz> criticism of someone who is a sociopath, piggybacking cancer. Moreover,Aug 26 09:49
schestowitz> as I found out some minutes ago, S*it needs to get out more. Seriously.Aug 26 09:49
schestowitz> Aug 26 09:49
schestowitz> He doesn't know the phrase, "when did you stop beating your wife?" ThatAug 26 09:49
schestowitz> buffoon took it literally and the Microsoft troll whom he clings on toAug 26 09:49
schestowitz> played along with his lack of social orientation and defunct sense ofAug 26 09:49
schestowitz> humour.Aug 26 09:49
schestowitz> Aug 26 09:49
schestowitz> This reminded me of when Obama said "lipstick on a pig" and RepublicansAug 26 09:49
schestowitz> riled up the masses saying that he was calling Palin a pig.Aug 26 09:49
schestowitz> Aug 26 09:49
schestowitz> The trolls can't win the arguments, so now they try to paint everyoneAug 26 09:49
schestowitz> who advocate Linux a "sociopath" -- which is in fact what *Steve Jobs* is.Aug 26 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links – Wikileaks Betrayed, Germany’s East Texas, Spying http://ur1.ca/4yxm9 !techrightsAug 26 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links – Wikileaks Betrayed, Germany’s East Texas, Spying http://ur1.ca/4yxm9 #techrightsAug 26 09:54
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gbin/status/106973076343881728Aug 26 09:55
TechrightsBot-tr@gbin: This is good news the initial setup is long and boring after 5x RT @schestowitz #Gentoo Gets an Installer http://t.co/0dpGYrtAug 26 09:55
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MinceRi thought gentoo had an installer for agesAug 26 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Looking Back at 15 Years of Weight Training http://ur1.ca/4yxmb a bit off topic, but...Aug 26 09:55
MinceRsabayon even uses anaconda, and it's set up better there than in fedora, afaictAug 26 09:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: RELEASE: 97,152 US diplomatic cables from every corner of the globe now available in searchable format http://t.co/FWDeoKMAug 26 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Britain sheltered Chilean dictator Pinochet from trial for human rights abuses but holds Assange without charge.Aug 26 09:57
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MinceRthat said, i liked the stage1 install methodAug 26 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: 2010 Korea sells "experimental" Nuclear Reactor to Jordan, wants to sell to Turkey and the UAE http://t.co/2tDGs2X #wlfindAug 26 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] #lo#lo224 let lol happen as @fabshAug 26 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @tracyrreed CmdrTaco resigning? End of slashdot is nigh?Where o where will I go for my hot grits on a naked and petrified Natalie Portman?Aug 26 09:59
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schestowitzanaconda used to be a ram hog at its timeAug 26 09:59
MinceRit seems to be a configuration issueAug 26 09:59
schestowitzI like how debian has gtk option and ncurses optionAug 26 09:59
MinceRanaconda in f15(?) needs more than 512GB RAM, but not in sabayonAug 26 10:00
schestowitzubuntu lost thatAug 26 10:00
MinceRand afaik fedora knows the issue and are fixing itAug 26 10:00
schestowitzwhen i  installed ubuntu 4.10 it was only like old debianAug 26 10:00
schestowitzMinceR: I see..Aug 26 10:00
schestowitzwowAug 26 10:00
schestowitzhalf a gig?Aug 26 10:00
MinceRyesAug 26 10:00
schestowitzTo install something possibly headless?Aug 26 10:00
schestowitzI read about that like 4 years agoAug 26 10:00
MinceRthey load a lot of stuff into memory obligately in that versionAug 26 10:00
MinceRnot sure whyAug 26 10:00
schestowitzBack when half a gig RAM for a whole machine was very commonAug 26 10:00
MinceRi gave my VMs half a gigAug 26 10:01
schestowitzheck, it's like copying the whole CD to RAMAug 26 10:01
MinceRschestowitz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=682555Aug 26 10:02
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MinceRstill, sabayon installed just fine with anaconda in a 512GB VMAug 26 10:02
schestowitzhttp://meta.slashdot.org/story/11/08/25/1245200/Rob-CmdrTaco-Malda-Resigns-From-SlashdotAug 26 10:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda Resigns From Slashdot - Slashdot .::. Size~: 166.14 KBAug 26 10:02
schestowitzresigned sounds badAug 26 10:02
schestowitzLike something specific upset himAug 26 10:03
MinceRi don't care, /. became irrelevant ages ago :>Aug 26 10:03
schestowitzmaybe he just wants to escape Detroit :0-)Aug 26 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Exclusive: How Facebook is open-sourcing its data centers and servers http://ur1.ca/4yxnt utter BS. They are openwashing, not open-sourcingAug 26 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] just tried #rofox demo on grob (N950 webbrowser) and the #firefox beta. firefox runs more smooth, but both show glitches #mozilla #css3Aug 26 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What We Know For Sure on Linux’s 20th Anniversary http://ur1.ca/4yxnx http://ur1.ca/4yxny http://ur1.ca/4yxo0 #linux #anniversary #kernelAug 26 10:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Five Things the Enlightenment Desktop Does Best http://ur1.ca/4yxpw #enlightenment #gnu #linux #desktopAug 26 10:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Aaron Seigo talks about the !KDE SC 5.0 http://ur1.ca/4yxq5 "why the traditional desktop won't be killed by the mobile space"Aug 26 10:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 11.10 (So Far) Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/4yxqn "This cycle has been very much focused on integrating GNOME3 into Ubuntu"Aug 26 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Sad State Of GPU Drivers For #BSD , #Solaris http://ur1.ca/4yxr2 #graphicsAug 26 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ten things to do after installing Ubuntu (humor) http://ur1.ca/4yu6k pretty well doneAug 26 10:39
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schestowitzhttp://osdir.com/Article10905.phtmlAug 26 10:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] vAug 26 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @violajack: Forget Jobs, this is the real resignation news: Slashdot creator "CmdrTaco" steps down http://t.co/5TeuH5XAug 26 10:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/einfeldt/status/106780249257283584Aug 26 10:41
TechrightsBot-tr@einfeldt: RT @Spiegelmania: Steve Jobs Announces Retirement, All My Friends Pre-Order RetirementAug 26 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Obviously, this is big news and it's important, but should everyone cover it?" http://t.co/tyajUvH #stevejobs #hype #dronesAug 26 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Wikileaks has released hundreds of thousands potential big stories, but the corporate media prefers to cover a non-event about tech 'celeb'Aug 26 10:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Assuming he was OK with suing the world instead of innovating, I won’t miss him." http://ur1.ca/4yxsvAug 26 10:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz Aaron Seigo talks about the !KDE SC 5.0 http://ur1.ca/4yxq5 "why the traditional desktop won't be killed by the mobile s ...Aug 26 10:54
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/81698190Aug 26 10:54
TechrightsBot-tr@Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clacke)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 09:48:20 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And here's the meta-meta-coverage.  :-)Aug 26 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Apple Shouldn't Allow Itself To Be A Victim Of Robin Hood" … but surely no one was a "victim" of Robin Hood http://ping.fm/cMLA4Aug 26 10:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Brings Down Cost of Tablets to $199 http://ur1.ca/4yxtxAug 26 10:59
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schestowitzis glyn moody on vacation?Aug 26 11:00
schestowitzhe vanishedAug 26 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Us ambassador meets with BigPharma & agrees to persuade #Turkey to change its patent law #wlfind http://goo.gl/cbXi7 v @ferayebendAug 26 11:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RealNetworks crushes Dutch webmaster for hyperlink http://is.gd/gmcOaTAug 26 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] A Legal Analysis For Why BART's Mobile Phone Shutdown Was Illegal http://is.gd/sfxsaFAug 26 11:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] No one is going to show up for #GlennBeck 's bullshit Israel tour http://is.gd/Jel5noAug 26 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "DNSSEC support isn't finished yet, and if PROTECT IP is implemented Paul Vixie says it never will be" http://goo.gl/czmMjAug 26 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Clearwater fines #Scientology $413,500 http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgovernment/clearwater-fines-scientology-413500/1187852 #terroristsAug 26 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] SEC Hit With Data Destruction Complaint http://is.gd/DO1pL7Aug 26 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@fosspatents it is very unusual for you to respond only in #identica ... and 5 times within minutes. Do you not want people to see critics?Aug 26 11:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Capped Deepwater Horizon well is leaking http://blog.al.com/live/2011/08/deepwater_trouble_on_the_horiz.html #terroristsAug 26 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@fosspatents this is also why you disabled comments in your blogs after a few weeks.You want to talk nonsense without people calling it outAug 26 11:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 40,000hrs of #ukriots #cctv will take ages for Police, how many hrs per min uploaded to #YouTube? #MPAA insist on real time protectionAug 26 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Cloud computing" is what happens when an individual (or company) is too thick to set up own infrastructure with the help of ISPsAug 26 11:17
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81699830Aug 26 11:17
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:15:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The problem is not that you're a "critic". I have about 4 times as many Twitter followers as you do. No need to promote you.Aug 26 11:17
schestowitzLOLAug 26 11:17
schestowitzHe counts them like trophiesAug 26 11:17
schestowitzAnd since you think it's a numbers game, I tweeted more than 10 times what you didAug 26 11:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fosspatents And since you think it's a numbers game, I tweeted more than 10 times what you didAug 26 11:19
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81699978Aug 26 11:19
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:17:59 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Re. nonsense, you say Apple lost most of its claims in Düsseldorf. The only claim they brought there and won is tablet design.Aug 26 11:19
schestowitzre cloud computingAug 26 11:20
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81700032Aug 26 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr@Dayo (jargon)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:18:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz or they can't afford toAug 26 11:20
schestowitzThe cost of lockin is very high, but it's procrastination-inducedAug 26 11:20
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81700072Aug 26 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @davidgerard: Breaking a dependency on Google http://t.co/GQs46DN http://t.co/Tg5RBBL lovely apps, just give yourself a way outAug 26 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:19:34 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Your high number of tweets shows you *want* to be listened to. My high number of followers, however, shows actual relevance.Aug 26 11:20
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schestowitzWhatever floats your ego, FlorianAug 26 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fosspatents Whatever floats your ego, FlorianAug 26 11:22
schestowitzHeheAug 26 11:23
schestowitzhe's upset\Aug 26 11:23
schestowitzHe hates criticismAug 26 11:23
schestowitzIt lowers his impact as a lobbyistAug 26 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I thought #Rackspace was giving access to hardware, not fluff http://ur1.ca/4yxyg (Rackspace Hosting’s Uncertain Future in Cloud Computing)Aug 26 11:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rackspace Hosting cloud computing open source software development | InvestorPlace .::. Size~: 64.4 KBAug 26 11:24
iophkOn the sound mixing in TechBytes, the volume for Tim is much louder than that of Roy.  Is there a way to equalize the audio better in upcoming shows?Aug 26 11:24
schestowitzyes, it was FAR worseAug 26 11:25
schestowitzI'm thankful I made it possible to hear me at allAug 26 11:25
schestowitzWe messed out the recordingAug 26 11:25
Diablo-D3s/out/up/Aug 26 11:25
schestowitzI tried to fix it as much as I couldAug 26 11:25
schestowitzNext time we'll run a quick test before starting, we were neglectfulAug 26 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Human Body Might Adapt to Radiation Exposure | LiveScience http://ping.fm/xShTQAug 26 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IPFire open source firewall improves network throughput http://ur1.ca/4yxyv uses #LinuxAug 26 11:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Human Body Might Adapt to Radiation Exposure | Doctors Who Use X-Rays Often Have Higher Antioxidant Levels | LiveScience .::. Size~: 38.27 KBAug 26 11:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IPFire open source firewall improves network throughput - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 37.63 KBAug 26 11:26
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81700289Aug 26 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:23:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz My "ego" doesn't matter. What matters is that I provide useful information to many people. Sometimes you do, too. *Sometimes*.Aug 26 11:26
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81700342Aug 26 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr@Dayo (jargon)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:24:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz unfortunately,the lockin issue only ever seems to matter to the technical people,not the management people.Aug 26 11:26
schestowitzSo they oughn't make decisions in such areasAug 26 11:26
schestowitz*oughtn'tAug 26 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fosspatents/@fosspatents] The 1st sentence of this IDG article debunks your "spam" theory: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/082511-florian-mueller-250111.htmlAug 26 11:27
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81700675Aug 26 11:32
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:29:34 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I don't deny that I sent out and sometimes still send out email to many journalists in rapid-response situations. But...Aug 26 11:32
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81700714Aug 26 11:32
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:30:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz (cont) ...by now, enough of them follow me by Twitter, Google+, LinkedIn, Facebook RSS subscriptions etc. anyway.Aug 26 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source continues to thrive in health care http://ur1.ca/4yxzm @TheTechScribe on a lesser-explored area of FOSS success. #health #ossAug 26 11:32
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schestowitz"I don't always spam journalists... but when I do, I say they're on Twitter!"Aug 26 11:32
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81700798Aug 26 11:33
schestowitzYou poor puppy :-)Aug 26 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:31:34 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Believe it or not, but it's a fact that recently I've had to decline several interview requests for lack of time.Aug 26 11:33
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81700870Aug 26 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:32:34 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz In most of those cases, I just declined to schedule phone calls but was happy to answer by email. I have too many appointments.Aug 26 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fosspatents "I don't always spam journalists... but when I do, I say they're on Twitter!"Aug 26 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fosspatents You poor puppy :-)Aug 26 11:34
schestowitzYes, I know, you're so so important and amazing.  You told us all how much of a celeb you are in LWN http://lwn.net/Articles/437650/Aug 26 11:36
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81700900Aug 26 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr@Dayo (jargon)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:32:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz in an ideal environment,they wouldn'tAug 26 11:37
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81700938Aug 26 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:33:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz My Twitter followers list is open for inspection by you and everyone else. Hundreds of journalists, incl major news agencies.Aug 26 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fosspatents Yes, I know, you're so so important and amazing. You told us all how much of a celeb you are in LWN http://ur1.ca/4yy07Aug 26 11:37
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schestowitzAh, thanks for paying attention to poor wee me then /sarcasmAug 26 11:37
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81701087Aug 26 11:38
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:35:51 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz In other words, you're wasting energy by trying to tell a "spam" story. People bash me in forum comments. Reporters don't care.Aug 26 11:38
schestowitzThey don't read those forums. You hide criticism _to the extent that you can_ and sometimes threaten critics.Aug 26 11:38
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81701146Aug 26 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:36:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz In your view of the world, I'm on a mission to hurt GNU/Linux. All I do is report the truth, even if often inconvenient.Aug 26 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fosspatents Ah, thanks for paying attention to poor wee me then /sarcasmAug 26 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fosspatents They don't read those forums. You hide criticism _to the extent that you can_ and sometimes threaten critics.Aug 26 11:39
schestowitzYou spin stories and ignore crucial facts to bias the outcome and then mass-mail that for influence, bentAug 26 11:39
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81701243Aug 26 11:39
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:38:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It's not like that. I think you sometimes really raise good points on your blog but often waste energy on the wrong targets.Aug 26 11:39
schestowitzThe target is a distortion of the truthAug 26 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @clacke Interests me how journos always argue as if Microsoft were the bad guys and Apple were the heroes. I always thought Apple were worseAug 26 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fosspatents You spin stories and ignore crucial facts to bias the outcome and then mass-mail that for influence, bentAug 26 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fosspatents The target is a distortion of the truthAug 26 11:40
schestowitzI guess the bot picks it up anyway, despite being a reply...Aug 26 11:40
schestowitzHe's being defensive this timeAug 26 11:41
schestowitzHe gets aggressive when he feels corneredAug 26 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Options Available for Mobile Open Source Apps on USB Drives http://ur1.ca/4yy0w working one's way out of lockinAug 26 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] New blog post: iSixtir http://serkokatsikian.net/?p=499Aug 26 11:45
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: hitchiking the digital universe » iSixtir .::. Size~: 38.33 KBAug 26 11:46
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81701410Aug 26 11:46
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:41:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz My posts are way too balanced to be labeled "spin". But you don't want to recognize that balance.Aug 26 11:46
schestowitzBalanced? Like "Fidel Moglen"?Aug 26 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Apple created a fork of KHTML" http://ur1.ca/4yy1d and on the 7th day said, "innovation!"Aug 26 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fosspatents Balanced? Like "Fidel Moglen"?Aug 26 11:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP Should Put WebOS into the Open Source Pot http://ur1.ca/4yy1s problem is,HP's new software chief was appointed from Microsoft. #hp #webosAug 26 11:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP Should Put WebOS into the Open Source Pot | John C. Dvorak |  PCMag.com .::. Size~: 103.79 KBAug 26 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Steve Jobs the hypocrite http://serkokatsikian.net/?p=499Aug 26 11:50
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schestowitzhttp://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/8/25/dutch-court-grants-apple-preliminary-injunction-against-samsung.aspxAug 26 11:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dutch Court Grants Apple Preliminary Injunction Against Samsung - Bright Side Of News* .::. Size~: 75.85 KBAug 26 11:52
schestowitz"according to FOSS Patens blogger Florian Müller. In ten of those cases Apple acts as the plaintiff, in the rest as defendant."Aug 26 11:52
schestowitzHe keeps polluting the newswAug 26 11:52
schestowitzThe real news is that Apple failed to block thoseAug 26 11:52
schestowitzOnly a minor victory but a major loss overallAug 26 11:53
schestowitzAnd all those headlines making Android seem riskyAug 26 11:53
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81701751Aug 26 11:53
TechrightsBot-tr@Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:47:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @fosspatents why not publish those threatening emails?Aug 26 11:53
schestowitzlike... privacy?Aug 26 11:53
schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/082511-florian-mueller-250111.htmlAug 26 11:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Q&A: How tech patent expert Florian Mueller sees smartphone suits shaking out .::. Size~: 127.6 KBAug 26 11:54
schestowitzSee what he;'s doing?Aug 26 11:54
schestowitzLobbying interjecting himself into the patent newsAug 26 11:54
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/81701856Aug 26 11:56
TechrightsBot-tr@Florian Mueller (fosspatents)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 10:49:59 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I said that in connection with an unbalanced, ultra-leftist, speech of his.Aug 26 11:56
schestowitzLOL, that's richAug 26 11:56
schestowitzNow he backtracks a bit cause it looks bad on himAug 26 11:56
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81702491Aug 26 12:08
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 11:02:07 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz not another MS infiltration. Jeez whois next?Aug 26 12:08
schestowitzIf only the future could be predicted. Well, Microsoft's BillV runs HP Software... since less than a year ago.Aug 26 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Steve Jobs, especially in recent months as he’s pulled out his patent portfolio and declared war on Android." http://ur1.ca/4yy50Aug 26 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: The following Reuters story, by Mark Hosenball, on WikiLeaks, uses entirely fabricated sources http://t.co/rDJzkFqAug 26 12:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Florian Mueller is an unpleasant piece of work as demonstrated by his comments in this thread." http://ur1.ca/4yy5lAug 26 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @schestowitz HP Should Put WebOS into the Open Source Pot http://ur1.ca/4yy1s problem is,HP's new software chief was appointed from M ...Aug 26 12:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Even the OIN recognised that it needed multitude of Linux-based mobile platforms, but companies like Nokia got infiltrated and "neutralised"Aug 26 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Nokia was going to ship hundreds of millions of GNU/Linux phones. That was too good for Microsoft to permit.Aug 26 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mark Hurd planned to put Linux-based WebOS on almost every HP device and beyond. He got set up, tossed, replaced by Microsoft ex-partner.Aug 26 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jerry Yang almost signed a search deal with Google (a lot of people no longer remember this). [...]Aug 26 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [...] Microsoft -- with Icahn's help -- tossed him out (from HIS OWN COMPANY). He was replaced by a former Microsoft partner, Bartz.Aug 26 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] LOL! "If PHP were British" - http://www.addedbytes.com/blog/if-php-were-british/ #fbAug 26 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's the difference between a Windows virus and a Microsoft virus? You can remove the former with a Linux ISO, the latter hard to remove.Aug 26 12:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP’s webOS Decision Sends Shock Waves Through Developer Community http://ur1.ca/4yy6i like they give a damn. Watch HP's stock. Bartz 2.0.Aug 26 12:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android is on fire http://ur1.ca/4yy6r in a good way, unlike #Elop and his "pouring gasoline" analogy (when he burned down Nokia). !meegoAug 26 12:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android is on fire | Linux User .::. Size~: 48.17 KBAug 26 12:24
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81703497Aug 26 12:26
TechrightsBot-tr@Kenneth Burling (burlingk)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 11:21:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz :P You could remove both with the same ISO I think, just a matter of how aggressive you are about it. ^__^Aug 26 12:26
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81703749Aug 26 12:26
TechrightsBot-tr@Sayed Hashem Masoud (hashemmasoud)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 11:24:55 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And now they (Nokia) regret it because they will sell far less Microsoft+Nokia handsets.Aug 26 12:26
schestowitzBur Elop did the right thing. As one Microsoft's top 10 shareholders, he and his family cash in.Aug 26 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft and its employees now think it is indeed the Master of the Universe." -Stewart Alsop, FortuneAug 26 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz Five Things the Enlightenment Desktop Does Best http://ur1.ca/4yxpw #enlightenment #gnu #linux #desktopAug 26 12:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] "list of various recreational drugs and the way they make you act like a hard-core Facebooker" http://ur1.ca/4yy9mAug 26 12:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Mobile patent wars and Linux in context | http://red.ht/qKiKbA #patents #android #appleAug 26 13:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] More confusion over #Romania's position on !opensource - The H http://ping.fm/npinkAug 26 13:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm struggling to find significant !Linux news over the last few days. I'll have to work harderAug 26 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Eerie: Nov 29, 2010 WikiLeaks cablegate FAQ on the possibilities of an Arab Spring (see end) http://t.co/J2ff09IAug 26 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] i've got a lot of Google+ invites sitting idle. If anyone wants any let me knowAug 26 13:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How and Why to Root your !Android: 15 Worthwhile Apps - by Eric Geier http://goo.gl/cNZz0Aug 26 13:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "do crabs think we walk sideways?" #brilliantAug 26 13:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !wl #wlfind | Some clandestine copyright stuff happening in Venezuela? …seen this @glynmoody ? http://goo.gl/5yKruAug 26 13:26
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xjasonxhey, any programmers about?Aug 26 13:28
amarsh04I haven't programmed in about 9 yearsAug 26 13:29
xjasonxI was googling for info on sortingAug 26 13:29
xjasonxand came across a mono guy's blog as the #1 search resultAug 26 13:30
amarsh04crazyAug 26 13:30
xjasonxyeaAug 26 13:30
xjasonxanyway, looks like he's got some good stuffAug 26 13:30
xjasonxbeen reading these: http://jeffreystedfast.blogspot.com/search/label/sortingAug 26 13:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Moment of Zen: sorting .::. Size~: 155.76 KBAug 26 13:31
amarsh04I learned sorting from Wirth's Algorithms + data structures = programsAug 26 13:31
xjasonxI am trying to understand some of his optimizationsAug 26 13:31
xjasonxbut his code is way over my headAug 26 13:31
xjasonxbut pretty impressive how fast he got his sort functionsAug 26 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !OpenSource for America: Nominate an individual or project for an OSFA award by Melanie Chernoff http://goo.gl/dOmOtAug 26 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !fs | Software Freedom Day – 4 Weeks and Counting | FrenchFortuneCookie http://ping.fm/AqQJ2Aug 26 13:35
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xjasonxnever even heard of some of these sortsAug 26 13:36
xjasonxlike shell sortAug 26 13:36
xjasonxbubble sort is the only one I could probably do from memoryAug 26 13:38
xjasonxany idea wtf this is doing?Aug 26 13:40
xjasonx    if ((((char *) base) - ((char *) 0)) % sizeof (long) == 0 && (size % sizeof (long)) == 0)         copy_mode = 1;     else if ((((char *) base) - ((char *) 0)) % sizeof (int) == 0 && (size % sizeof (int)) == 0)         copy_mode = 2;     else         copy_mode = 0;Aug 26 13:40
xjasonxhe uses that for some optimizationAug 26 13:40
xjasonxbut it is so beyond meAug 26 13:41
xjasonxsurprises me that a mono guy actually knows this stuffAug 26 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Mozilla Won’t Ditch !Firefox Version Numbers After All ⚫ Favbrowser.com http://ping.fm/HLNjcAug 26 13:45
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xjasonxsuch a waste for him to be working on monoAug 26 13:46
xjasonxwith a bunch of loser drag&drop programmersAug 26 13:46
xjasonxwhen is this channel more awake?Aug 26 13:48
xjasonxeverytime I come here it seems so dead:(Aug 26 13:48
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iophkhttp://www.npr.org/2011/08/26/139924549/patent-wars-could-dull-techs-cutting-edgeAug 26 13:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Information on the upcoming LibreOffice Hackfest: http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org/msg15144.html !libo !tdfAug 26 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open health with the quantified self | http://red.ht/o8ygHi #opendata #patientslikemeAug 26 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] How to create Slidecasting http://code.narendrasisodiya.com/slidecast/Tutorial-SlideCasting.ogv #eduvid #slidecastingAug 26 14:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When finished this will be a lovely building. http://bit.ly/rcfbzb #architectureAug 26 14:22
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iophkhttp://www.democracynow.org/2011/8/24/pioneering_internet_archivists_brewster_kahle_andAug 26 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] A Happy Birthday Linux Post Written By A #Linux Script http://tinyurl.com/3b38xxaAug 26 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] #mileaday experiment complete: 47 days, 2 mulligans (long day of travel and hangover, respectively). Lost 10 lbs and lowered my heart rate!Aug 26 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] At 20, Linux is invisible, ubiquitous http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/08/25/linux.20/Aug 26 14:49
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iophkhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/feature/2103890/linuxAug 26 14:50
iophkhttp://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2010/04/the-first-linux-announcement-from-linus-torvalds/Aug 26 14:50
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iophkhttp://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201115/7043/Linux-celebrates-20-years-Torvalds-to-judge-best-anniversary-videoAug 26 14:50
iophkhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/twenty-years-of-linux-according-to-linus-torvalds/8663Aug 26 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] HP Should Put WebOS into the Open Source Pot http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2391878,00.asp Like I said! http://tinyurl.com/3m6md5mAug 26 14:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP Should Put WebOS into the Open Source Pot | John C. Dvorak |  PCMag.com .::. Size~: 103.79 KBAug 26 14:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Exclusive: How Facebook is open-sourcing its data centers and servers http://tinyurl.com/3roeu7qAug 26 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Money for #Romanian public #IT projects - where do they go? http://tinyurl.com/3qv625q #software #computer #politics #windows #anaf #egovtAug 26 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Financial literacyAug 26 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eightyeight "I admire these phone hackers. I think they have a lot of patience. I can't even be bothered to check my OWN voicemails. ...Aug 26 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Open source continues to thrive in health care http://tinyurl.com/3jkgdxsAug 26 14:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Open government policy developments in Australasia: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/28813Aug 26 14:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] ChillingAug 26 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] So THAT is why Red Hat has totally dug itself into a hole that Oracle can slowly fill with water: http://is.gd/uSmOid #strategy #failAug 26 15:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open Source for America: Nominate an individual or project for an OSFA award http://red.ht/r04PA8 #gov20 #opensourceAug 26 15:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @docufoundation Information on the upcoming LibreOffice Hackfest: http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org/msg15 ...Aug 26 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @silner !fs | Software Freedom Day – 4 Weeks and Counting | FrenchFortuneCookie http://ping.fm/AqQJ2Aug 26 15:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jamesvasile @changemaker announcement about !freedombox winning #citizenmedia early entry prize: http://ur1.ca/4xpziAug 26 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @dwa Watched "704 !FreedomBox Progress Report" ... this and other DebConf11 videos available at http://ur1.ca/4xdow !Debian !Linux #e ...Aug 26 15:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @greve imo it was an interview gimick to push their virtualizations solutions. who needs data and/or reality :)Aug 26 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] holy moly, flash 11 comes with a KDE Control Module for System Settings http://blog.romainperier.org/?p=90Aug 26 15:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] A Windows user’s guide to #Linux http://tinyurl.com/3slx97vAug 26 15:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Hair today,gone tomorrow cc @eebrah @kelzokoAug 26 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Afrika Investment Bank,formerly known as #Ashbhu Securities.Aug 26 15:22
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iophkhttp://www.h-online.com/open/features/The-history-of-Linux-1331088.htmlAug 26 15:36
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iophkI too would like to get an unaffiliated cloak, pleaseAug 26 15:38
MinceRask a freenode staffer :>Aug 26 15:42
iophkokAug 26 15:42
MinceRthis channel has nothing to do with themAug 26 15:42
MinceR(unaffiliated cloaks, that is)Aug 26 15:42
MinceRthey might require you to do the nick setup as per their FAQ first, thoughAug 26 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Hey there dude!Aug 26 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #RealNetworks crushes #Dutch webmaster for hyperlink http://is.gd/gmcOaTAug 26 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Free net and nothing to do with it. Should have carried my External HDDAug 26 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] My flickr stream is beautifulAug 26 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @Nj3ma Hey back, Work week over?Aug 26 15:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Scientific Linux's Troy Dawson leaves #FermiLabs for #RedHat http://is.gd/4TqLe8 !sciencelinAug 26 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @Nj3ma Got the ISO's? #good_netAug 26 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Nah ,not yet. on a dumb terminal. No hard disk to hook up to the server. Also please send linksAug 26 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @thistleweb one day I expect to see a distro called UNL (#Ubuntu is Not !Linux), perhaps with a fUNLweb spider as it's logo #hunourAug 26 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US Copyright Group Lawsuits Based On Highly Questionable Evidence http://is.gd/cGpDVPAug 26 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah need an addonAug 26 15:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ubuntu 11.10 (So Far) Screenshot Tour http://lwn.net/Articles/456500/rssAug 26 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Kama ni firefox, jaribu chatzillaAug 26 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma There is also a web client for freenodeAug 26 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah It's bloody ChromeAug 26 15:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Gani hiyo?Aug 26 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah nah. I work Saturdays. But still, TGIF!Aug 26 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] At the Chrome Web Store searching for an IRC clientAug 26 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma http://webchat.freenode.netAug 26 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fosspatents/@fosspatents] Excellent, balanced article by TheRegister on Android being a blessing and a curse for GNU/Linux: http://bit.ly/qIIUqxAug 26 15:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Should carry a laptop or netbook to come download stuffAug 26 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] of course, understanding a complex software system and taking a non-selfish viewpoint on feature composition is not easy.Aug 26 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma I heard that they are getting Ubuntu to work on the Touchpad, your prayers may be answeredAug 26 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @greve i think they can't figure out how to monetize the trad desktop very effectively, so they downplay it.Aug 26 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: Window Controls For Maximized Windows Hidden By Default, More Updates http://goo.gl/8L5I2 !uAug 26 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @greve not that that makes it any better / less frustrating, of course :)Aug 26 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma There is a 7" tablet out for $199, not badAug 26 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #xkcd: Empirical http://xkcd.com/943/Aug 26 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am on doze 7.Aug 26 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @mohanpram Top 10 Ubuntu 11.10 Features http://is.gd/FyuyDr !ubuntuAug 26 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @eightyeight "I needed a password with eight characters so I picked Snow White and the Seven Dwarves." Nick Helm !qAug 26 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Fuck the touchpad :-)Aug 26 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah WhereAug 26 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Patent war hits small app developers http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14682700 #technology #patentsAug 26 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @beffroilille twing twing twing twing twingAug 26 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma checki http://linuxfordevices.com One of todays top storiesAug 26 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] 2 -- The number of time I have checked #Tw*tter today, breaking dependancyAug 26 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] 85 and 41 KBps. Connection split among 6 dumb terminalsAug 26 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] 85 and 41 KBps. Connection split among 6 dumb terminals @eebrahAug 26 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Logged in but can't chatAug 26 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Iza, saw you there, @-ted youAug 26 16:15
roy_http://identi.ca/notice/81704414Aug 26 16:16
TechrightsBot-tr@Sayed Hashem Masoud (hashemmasoud)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 11:37:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz But a CEO must be under monitoring for deals having 'conflict of interest', right?Aug 26 16:16
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81716835Aug 26 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr@Răzvan Sandu (rsandu)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 15:16:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Please, do you recommend Acer Iconia A500 ? http://www.laptopmag.com/review/tablets/acer-iconia-tab-a500.aspxAug 26 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Money for #Romanian public #IT projects - where do they go? http://tinyurl.com/3qv625q #software #computer #politics #windows #anaf #egovtAug 26 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also I forgot my freenode passwordAug 26 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @jargon not sure why #VOA would list news on #Rwanda in their West Africa section. is it *that* bad with geography knowledge over the ...Aug 26 16:19
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schestowitzI don't know it, maybe someone else knows better. @openbytes like Acer.Aug 26 16:19
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81703749Aug 26 16:20
TechrightsBot-tr@Sayed Hashem Masoud (hashemmasoud)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 11:24:55 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz And now they (Nokia) regret it because they will sell far less Microsoft+Nokia handsets.Aug 26 16:20
schestowitzthe system failed re NokiaAug 26 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Web apps. Web Aps.Web AppsAug 26 16:20
schestowitz[15:27] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [noyesk/@noyesk] Google+ gets passive-aggressive with new ‘ignore’ feature http://tinyurl.com/3vs72l7Aug 26 16:21
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schestowitziophk: thanks for all those linksAug 26 16:23
schestowitzSadly for Finland, a microsoft mole prevented it from being a Linux/Meego paradiseAug 26 16:23
schestowitzThe OIN's CEO mentioned this mole to me on the phoneAug 26 16:23
schestowitzThey generally know what he is and what Microsoft didAug 26 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Registration open for Mozilla Festival on Media, Freedom and the Web, Nov 4-6 in London: http://t.co/HwzRjQg #mozfest via @thornet #openwebAug 26 16:24
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iophkschestowitz: no problemAug 26 16:24
iophkI wish that some mainstream sources would pick up the topic, too.Aug 26 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @davidmarsden: 'Back home' is like real life Facebook. Full of people you don't want to meet anywhere else and you can never _really_ ..Aug 26 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @x11r5 Yargh, possibly my worst exam performance ever. Now, off to drown the \nsorrow in japanese, alcohol, and networkingAug 26 16:27
schestowitzindeedAug 26 16:28
schestowitza few hours ago I told a friend Linux turned 20Aug 26 16:28
schestowitzHe used several Linux distros beforAug 26 16:28
schestowitzBut he didn't know it turned 20Aug 26 16:28
schestowitzHe did 'know' about Samsung/Android devices being "banned"Aug 26 16:28
iophkMost don't know it's been around that longAug 26 16:29
schestowitzFlorian and gang help distort the newsAug 26 16:29
schestowitziophk: and they think it's a desktop OSAug 26 16:29
iophkThe Apple/Samsung fiasco has been distorted with a lot of disinformation from FMAug 26 16:29
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schestowitzAnd was not existent before 1991 (GNU)Aug 26 16:29
iophkGNU's been around since 1984Aug 26 16:29
iophkor 1983 depending on what you countAug 26 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @reiter !LiMux in Munich already saved 5.6M Euros compared to the alternative: http://is.gd/QsjkgE (in !DE) Using GNU systems and !Fr ...Aug 26 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice! Red Hat's original PO - http://ur1.ca/4yz07 #linux #fbAug 26 16:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Great post by @DelisaAtRedHat - Fueling Passion: The employee-led evolution of memo-list at Red Hat Great post by http://t.co/7k0B9E4Aug 26 16:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] An updated Apache DOS advisory http://lwn.net/Articles/456513/rssAug 26 16:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @reiter !LiMux in Munich already saved 5.6M Euros compared to the alternative: http://is.gd/QsjkgE (in !DE) Using GNU systems and !Fr ...Aug 26 16:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] NYC.gov Goes Down When We Need It Most: Here Are Some Alternative Info Sources (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/rdNWCHAug 26 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Biz Stone: Tech’s Most Useless Big Shot http://gaw.kr/mZBV5PAug 26 16:44
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schestowitziophk: yeah, I was gonna sayAug 26 16:45
iophkI'm hoping that Canonical, Red Hat or IBM can break the OEM monopoly so we can see Linux on netbooks and desktops en masse.Aug 26 16:47
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81717841Aug 26 16:47
TechrightsBot-tr@Răzvan Sandu (rsandu)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 15:32:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Thanks !  :)Aug 26 16:47
schestowitziophk: or GoogleAug 26 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Romania Under Pressure to Allow Free/Libre Software http://ur1.ca/4yz2x #romania #eu #gpl #freesoftwareAug 26 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Romania Under Pressure to Allow Free/Libre Software http://ur1.ca/4yz2x #procurement #windows #microsoftAug 26 16:47
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iophkGoogle might do it too, if it does more to weaken SW patents.Aug 26 16:48
iophkM$ probably makes more money from Android now than it does from its own phone software.Aug 26 16:48
iophkThat's got to end.Aug 26 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Inside the secret world of #hackers http://tinyurl.com/3wngy9f #computers #security #networkAug 26 16:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Repay Value http://is.gd/QNk8Iy #fb #MPAA #RIAAAug 26 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Romania Under Pressure to Allow Free/Libre Software http://ur1.ca/4yz2x #romania #eu #gpl #freesoftwareAug 26 16:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @reiter !LiMux in Munich already saved 5.6M Euros compared to the alternative: http://is.gd/QsjkgE (in !DE) Using GNU systems and !Fr ...Aug 26 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Twitter releases Bootstrap, a set of CSS and HTML conventions for rapidly developing web applications: http://bit.ly/plZbAvAug 26 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Censorship under Mubarak: A personal WikiLeaks story for the Arabist http://t.co/GycmeVNAug 26 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Tomorrow’s #Windows is Yesterday’s Computing, a #GNU #Linux Catchup Job http://ur1.ca/4yz5b copying kde as usual http://ur1.ca/4yz5h #win8Aug 26 17:07
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/107096547552002050Aug 26 17:09
TechrightsBot-tr@aaronsw: Pointing out that Apple has a gay CEO isn't outing, it's reporting: http://t.co/ctepiws /by @joeclarkAug 26 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: #Wikileaks reveals Saudis "marry" Yemeni underage girls to force them into prostitution in Saudi http://t.co/Xthsy0v #wlfindAug 26 17:09
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schestowitzit's intentional. They try to make Android "uneconomic"Aug 26 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks: Cuban "doctor defectors" face tough times according to Guyana-US secret cable http://t.co/OuXCBUAAug 26 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #Wikileaks reveals Saudis marry Yemeni underage girls to force them into prostitution in Saudi http://t.co/Xthsy0v #wlfindAug 26 17:10
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schestowitz"Thanks! If interesting for you, there are another five episodes on Microsoft's Romanian adventures. Episode 1 http://tinyurl.com/3zwjdc2 " our informant in .roAug 26 17:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cocaine #fail [IMG] http://ur1.ca/4yz6bAug 26 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @jimmy_wales: Why Bing will fail - censorship is not what customers want http://ow.ly/6drObAug 26 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Philippines: US sees el Shaddir, INC as king makers http://t.co/rvQeVyJAug 26 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Cuban doctor defectors face tough times according to Guyana-US secret cable http://t.co/OuXCBUAAug 26 17:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cine se află în spatele megașmenului de 100 de milioane de euro marca Gabriel Sandu http://tinyurl.com/43sj7dp #mcsi #romania #softwareAug 26 17:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: NO CNN CAMERA CREWS! - secret US cable on child prisoners in the Philippines. http://t.co/atXtlzjAug 26 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #wlfind Horrific eye-witness report from a teenaged boy on his time in Srebrenica http://t.co/eRgEb6a via @HomoCarnulaAug 26 17:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The Entrepreneur’s Dilemma: Contributor Agreements are NOT a mandatory part of an open source business. http://wmk.me/p9JYluAug 26 17:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Megaşmenul DIM Soft SRL revine în forţă http://tinyurl.com/3gtan99 #mcsi #romania #software #computerAug 26 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlfind: #NOSDRA officials estimated on average 3 #oil spills take place every day in the #NigerDelta http://t.co/Y0zDdNG via @Gorhil ...Aug 26 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Firmele megaşmenului Gabriel Sandu-Microsoft: tranzacţii, acţionariat, conexiuni http://tinyurl.com/3zkl56q #microsoft #romania #softwareAug 26 17:39
eebrahsebsebseb how's mageia doing socially :PAug 26 17:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlfind: #Pattaya filled w/ fugitives, crazies, traffic & heartbroken loners http://t.co/Hen5qv4 #wlfind via @Furrygirl #Thailand #USNavyAug 26 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Megaşmen Gabriel Sandu II. “Internet în şcoala ta”, fără Daniel Funeriu http://tinyurl.com/33fhdya #romania #mcsi #funeriu #software #schoolAug 26 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlfind: #Pearlriver polluted, citizens w/ cancer, bone diseases from exposure 2 arsenic, cadmium.. http://t.co/MZGd0H8 #wlfind via @ ...Aug 26 17:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I'm endorsing & voting for Dr Tan Cheng Bock as the 7th President of the Republic of Singapore. http://wp.me/pj2fj-th #fb #sgpoliticsAug 26 17:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlfind: Some pointed to International Commission Against Impunity n #Guatemala wr contractors n #Iraq http://t.co/mION2SI #wlfind vi ...Aug 26 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Megaşmen III: Sandu şi-a încălcat propriul regulament ca să atribuie bani europeni… propriului minister http://tinyurl.com/4ytjwyd #mcsi #euAug 26 17:54
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schestowitz"Episode 2 http://tinyurl.com/3uq39vt "Aug 26 17:54
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schestowitz"Episode 4 (involves European money) http://tinyurl.com/3m7bezo"Aug 26 17:54
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schestowitz"Episode 5 (involves European money, too) http://tinyurl.com/3ls5at3 "Aug 26 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft/Novell Software Patents Strategy Failed to Submerge Red Hat, Patent Trolls Do the Job Better http://ur1.ca/4yzbu #swpatsAug 26 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Microsoft #Novell Software Patents Strategy Failed to Submerge #RedHat , Patent Trolls Do the Job Better http://ur1.ca/4yzbu #androidAug 26 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] China pollution monitoring falls short - #Wikileaks reveals http://t.co/2MNAuxyAug 26 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Best Games for !Google Chrome | TechSource http://ping.fm/eoXTMAug 26 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Open government policy developments in Australasia • by Jane Park http://ping.fm/lzLZNAug 26 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Online defamation cases in England and Wales 'double' http://is.gd/7flbJp wanting sites held accountable for user generated contentAug 26 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Megaşmen IV. Gabriel Sandu face conexiunea banilor europeni cu buzunarele #PDL. Broadband http://tinyurl.com/2vnvfbd #eu #mcsi #broadbandAug 26 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @silner Open government policy developments in Australasia • by Jane Park http://ping.fm/lzLZNAug 26 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Crunch time on the Enterprise Desktop « !Canonical Blog http://ping.fm/3OBg2Aug 26 18:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Stay tuned for details of 45,000 more US diplomatic cables.Aug 26 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Dr Web is another Windows recovery LiveCD based on Linux (Suse it looks like) http://ping.fm/OlnmRAug 26 18:19
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twitterComander Taco left slashdot.  Aug 26 18:20
twitterare any of the original founders around?Aug 26 18:20
iophkIIRC Hemos is still thereAug 26 18:21
twitterI thought he left last year.Aug 26 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I love the smell of Star Trek in the morning...Aug 26 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @reality: "God is an asshole"Aug 26 18:22
iophkI see that Hemos posts commentsAug 26 18:22
twitterone recent change is that I'm no longer able to update jounalsAug 26 18:29
iophkIs that part of their pro-M$ strategies?Aug 26 18:29
ender_2600lol slashdot pro-m$?Aug 26 18:30
ender_2600hahahaAug 26 18:30
iophkIn recent years, yes it is.Aug 26 18:31
twitterit makes the site less useful, which helps Microsoft, but I'm not sure they intended it that wayAug 26 18:31
ender_2600not at allAug 26 18:31
twitterSlashdotAug 26 18:31
twitter's clue factor has fallen over the yearsAug 26 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Nice article on Linux's 20th birthday on CNN - glad I made the cut - http://is.gd/HsZDVnAug 26 18:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: At 20, Linux is invisible, ubiquitous - CNN.com .::. Size~: 50.06 KBAug 26 18:32
ender_2600slashdot just became mainstream, including the support of pro UN climage change theoriesAug 26 18:32
ThistleWebender_2600: how many nicks do you have?Aug 26 18:33
ender_2600twoAug 26 18:33
ender_2600how many ad hominem techniques do you have?Aug 26 18:34
twitterAnyway, anyone who can take Microsoft seriously is reality impaired in a pro Microsoft way.Aug 26 18:34
ThistleWebEnder_nothome Ender2070 ender2070_33 and ender_2600 makes 4Aug 26 18:35
iophkM$ makes a mess of the media Aug 26 18:35
ThistleWebjust wondering why I keep ignoring you, only to find you appear under another new nickAug 26 18:35
twitterthey make a mess of themselvesAug 26 18:35
ThistleWebunless 2 of that 4 are not youAug 26 18:36
ender_2600ThistleWeb ignore me? because I don't buy the official disinfo?Aug 26 18:36
ender_2600I've only registered ender_2600 and ender_33Aug 26 18:36
ThistleWebI shoulda asked how many you use, sorry, my bad, politicians answer and all thatAug 26 18:37
ender_2600err ender_2070 not _33Aug 26 18:37
ender_2600why does it matter?Aug 26 18:37
ender_2600the ender_ part mattersAug 26 18:37
ThistleWebjust curious, k, I'll wildcard that and hope it worksAug 26 18:37
ender_2600anything else is just you talking out loud about your ignore listAug 26 18:37
ender_2600which is just you covering your ears "I don't want to hear the truth. Let's just keep attacking ms"Aug 26 18:38
ThistleWebthe fact that I saw you talking despite knowing I'd ignored you made me wonder at how many nicks you have, that's why I askedAug 26 18:38
ThistleWebI knew I'd been through this before with you tooAug 26 18:39
ThistleWebthat's why I knew it wasn't 2Aug 26 18:39
ender_2600the number is a suffix which represents something going on in my lifeAug 26 18:39
twitterToday's security absurdity.  http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/08/26/1247257/Was-This-the-Phishing-E-mail-That-Took-Down-RSA?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkuser&utm_medium=feedAug 26 18:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Was This the Phishing E-mail That Took Down RSA? - Slashdot .::. Size~: 141.42 KBAug 26 18:39
ThistleWebnot the convo part, the "Oh, I see him again, he's changed nicks again" partAug 26 18:39
twittersomeone sent RSA a booby trapped  excel sheet, lolAug 26 18:40
ThistleWebso ender* and ender_* should about cover it?Aug 26 18:40
ender_2600sure ThistleWebAug 26 18:40
ThistleWebk tyAug 26 18:40
ender_2600ThistleWeb - you might also want to invest in a bibleAug 26 18:41
twitter-> "a first step in a complex attack that ultimately threatened the security of major U.S. defense contractors including Lockheed Martin, L-3, and Northrop Grumman."Aug 26 18:41
ThistleWebI prefer fiction with less plot holesAug 26 18:41
ender_2600ThistleWeb - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.htmlAug 26 18:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Software Should Be Free - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 55.84 KBAug 26 18:42
ender_2600ThistleWeb - RE: The part where programmers are currently evil rich crooksAug 26 18:42
twitterif those contractors are also running Windows, they had no security in the first partAug 26 18:42
ender_2600that's some nice fictionAug 26 18:42
ender_2600twitter - what OS are they running?Aug 26 18:43
twitterprobably one that uses excelAug 26 18:43
ender_2600they all doAug 26 18:44
ender_2600so which oneAug 26 18:44
twitterwho cares, they are all insecureAug 26 18:44
ender_2600insecure just because of whatAug 26 18:44
ender_2600give reasonsAug 26 18:44
ender_2600because its Microsoft?Aug 26 18:44
iophkyesAug 26 18:45
ender_2600they have EAL 4+ from the NSAAug 26 18:45
ender_2600on server versionsAug 26 18:45
iophkrubber stamp onlyAug 26 18:45
twitterI can cite remote proceedure calls, browser help objects and a host of other stupid stuffAug 26 18:45
ender_2600redhat and ibm had to work hard for EAL 4+Aug 26 18:45
ender_2600which is in RHELAug 26 18:45
iophkbecause they were actually evaluated rather than rubber stampedAug 26 18:45
twitterand this is why virtually all of the fortune 500 have botnetsAug 26 18:45
ender_2600twitter - citation?Aug 26 18:46
iophkOne of many:Aug 26 18:46
iophkhttp://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/04/almost-all-fortune-500-companies-show-zeus-botnet-activity.arsAug 26 18:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Almost all Fortune 500 companies show Zeus botnet activity .::. Size~: 30.25 KBAug 26 18:46
ender_2600A zeus botnetAug 26 18:47
iophkAs stated, one of manyAug 26 18:47
iophkzeus is just oneAug 26 18:47
ender_2600someone could do the same thing for GNU/LinuxAug 26 18:47
iophknot yetAug 26 18:47
ender_2600you won't know it if they didAug 26 18:47
ender_2600who is watching for linux malwareAug 26 18:48
iophkhttp://www.switched.com/2010/03/03/massive-mariposa-botnet-dismantled-mario-to-social-network-but/Aug 26 18:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Massive Mariposa Botnet Dismantled, Mario to Social Network (But Skips Facebook) .::. Size~: 88.04 KBAug 26 18:48
ender_2600like i said earlier, redhat and ibm worked hard for eal4Aug 26 18:48
ender_2600if you want *more* secure than you'll need IBM System Z which has eal5Aug 26 18:49
twitterah thanks iophkAug 26 18:49
ender_2600or Open Kernel Labs seL4 which is EAL7Aug 26 18:49
twitterif you want something more secure than Windows, all you need is anything elseAug 26 18:50
ender_2600the security flaw is the people running the servers which get infectedAug 26 18:50
ender_2600not windowsAug 26 18:50
iophkblaming the user is so old and inappropriate Aug 26 18:50
ender_2600its a factAug 26 18:50
twitterbut only free software can protect you from malwareAug 26 18:50
ender_2600security's biggest weakness is the userAug 26 18:50
ender_2600twitter, free software can also have malware in itAug 26 18:50
ender_2600firefox has malwareAug 26 18:50
iophkwrong, the biggest weakness is the user that installs windowsAug 26 18:50
ender_2600no thats just zealotryAug 26 18:51
twitterthe only user weakness common to windows is windows useAug 26 18:51
ender_2600you can make windows only run exe files which are signed by youAug 26 18:51
ender_2600that elimates viruses right thereAug 26 18:51
ender_2600unless you're dumb enough to sign a virusAug 26 18:51
ender_2600hence, user stupidityAug 26 18:51
iophksome bypass those so-called controlsAug 26 18:51
ender_2600cite oneAug 26 18:51
iophkhttp://arstechnica.com/security/news/2008/08/the-sky-isnt-falling-a-look-at-a-new-vista-security-bypass.arsAug 26 18:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The sky isn't falling: a look at a new Vista security bypass .::. Size~: 39.14 KBAug 26 18:52
twitteranti-virus makers had to bypass vista's weak signing policy the same way spy ware authors doAug 26 18:52
twitterbut Google proved that Windows itself is spyware, so no one should used it.Aug 26 18:53
twitterthe issue is a general problem of non free software - the owner demands trust they don't deserveAug 26 18:53
iophkhttp://securitywatch.pcmag.com/apple/283935-google-dropping-windows-for-internal-useAug 26 18:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Dropping Windows For Internal Use .::. Size~: 56.78 KBAug 26 18:53
twitterhttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-bing/Aug 26 18:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My thoughts on this week’s debate .::. Size~: 366.64 KBAug 26 18:54
iophkhttps://duckduckgo.com/html/Aug 26 18:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DuckDuckGo .::. Size~: 1.86 KBAug 26 18:54
twitterThat's basically the end of the story for anyone who wants any privacy.Aug 26 18:54
ender_2600iophk thats not what im talking aboutAug 26 18:55
twitterCisco is being sued for helping the Chinese government track and harm dissidents.  Microsoft is also close to them and deserves similar exposure.Aug 26 18:56
iophkhttp://www.techrepublic.com/blog/window-on-windows/bypass-the-windows-vistas-logon-procedure/590Aug 26 18:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bypass the Windows Vista's logon procedure | TechRepublic .::. Size~: 284.51 KBAug 26 18:56
iophkno one should be running windows ; it's bad for the countryAug 26 18:56
twitterVista/Windows 7 are the same old Microsoft security failure.  Non free software will always be full of holes and Windows is Frankenstien monster of acquired non free code.Aug 26 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF's two NSA warrantless wiretapping cases are back in court on August 31 https://eff.org/r.1AY #stopthespying #privacyAug 26 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] USC uses IBM's Big Sheets to predict movie blockbusters by analyzing Twitter (GigaOm): http://bit.ly/mV2l38Aug 26 18:57
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ender_2600what im talking about is using your certification authority to sign an exe file, then you have a whitelist of signed programs that windows will allow to runAug 26 18:57
ender_2600anything that isnt in the whitelist and signed won't runAug 26 18:58
ender_2600you have to turn this feature onAug 26 18:58
iophkhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Download-Tool-to-Bypass-Driver-Signing-on-32-bit-and-64-bit-Windows-Vista-61405.shtmlAug 26 18:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Download Tool to Bypass Driver Signing on 32-bit and 64-bit Windows Vista - Softpedia .::. Size~: 52.44 KBAug 26 18:58
twitteryou don't know what you are talking about ender_2600 if you trust Windows to do what you want.Aug 26 18:58
ender_2600nothing to do with driver signingAug 26 18:58
ender_2600twitter - the thing is im not a zealotAug 26 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Pound for pound, Pandora ads now worth more than radio (GigaOm): http://bit.ly/rumes7Aug 26 18:59
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twitteryou are filled with irrational faith and trust of MicrosoftAug 26 18:59
ender_2600no i'm notAug 26 18:59
ender_2600you're filled with the irrational hate and distrust of anything MicrosoftAug 26 18:59
iophkhttp://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/080406-microsoft-blue-pill.html?fsrc=rss-securityAug 26 18:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft looks for ways to combat Blue Pill, code-signing bypass .::. Size~: 121.3 KBAug 26 18:59
ender_2600thats vista againAug 26 19:00
iophkvista, vista 7, vista 8 — all the sameAug 26 19:00
ender_2600what about server 2008 and certificatesAug 26 19:00
iophksameAug 26 19:00
twitterI hate the bad things they do and know not to trust them.  Having a memory and using it is one of the first steps towards rationally evaluating the world.Aug 26 19:00
ender_2600this isn't 1998 with windows 9xAug 26 19:01
twitterCutts and Google proved that Windows keylogs users, the other holes are just icing on the cake.Aug 26 19:01
iophkDebian was way ahead of Windows98 even back thenAug 26 19:01
ender_2600firefox spies on your http requestsAug 26 19:01
ender_2600sends them off to googleAug 26 19:02
twitterand websites, the horrorAug 26 19:02
ender_2600you have to do an about:config hackAug 26 19:02
twitteroh myAug 26 19:02
ender_2600which is the same as doing something in the windows registryAug 26 19:02
twitterWindows keylogs everythingAug 26 19:02
ender_2600where can I find that log twitter?Aug 26 19:03
ender_2600I want to see for myselfAug 26 19:03
twitterexcept about:config configuration won't brick your computer like a mistyped registry entry willAug 26 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google offers a peek behind its search results (Google blog): http://bit.ly/pxD1g0Aug 26 19:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Official Google Blog: Another look under the hood of search .::. Size~: 56.32 KBAug 26 19:04
twitterI'm not sure where you can find it, just look at the screenshots from Cutts for a practical demonstration of the resultsAug 26 19:04
twitterVista/Windows 7+N send the information back encrypted, so you won't ever be able to see it for yourself.Aug 26 19:05
ender_2600link itAug 26 19:05
ender_2600so I won't ever be able to prove or deny the claim?Aug 26 19:05
twitterI already did, thank you.Aug 26 19:05
iophkhttp://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/08/25/linux.20/index.htmlAug 26 19:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: At 20, Linux is invisible, ubiquitous - CNN.com .::. Size~: 50.06 KBAug 26 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RT @mairin happy birthday, Tux! you can drink legally in the US next year :)Aug 26 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Poking more holes in the first sale doctrine https://eff.org/r.5A7 #copyrightAug 26 19:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Poking More Holes in the First Sale Doctrine | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 21.38 KBAug 26 19:05
ender_2600where?Aug 26 19:06
twitteronly a service like Google can prove the rusult when Microsoft leaches off themAug 26 19:06
twitterhttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-bing/Aug 26 19:06
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twitterhttp://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/02/bing-copies-google/Aug 26 19:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Catches Bing Copying; Microsoft Says ‘So What?’ | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 52.47 KBAug 26 19:07
twitterwhat more do you want?Aug 26 19:07
ender_2600thats bing copying google resultsAug 26 19:09
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twitterright, but they scraped the terms off Windows user's home computers.  That's how Google ran the sting.Aug 26 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/456529/rssAug 26 19:10
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ender_2600thats internet explorer, we know that is insecureAug 26 19:12
twitterCutts and others went home and typed nonsense search terms into their Windows computers, nonsense that Google had arranged a fake page of results for.  Microsoft took the bait and copied the results, inadvertently proving that they spy on users.Aug 26 19:12
ender_2600just one of the thousands of other reasons not to run IEAug 26 19:12
ender_2600but the OS is just as secure as you make itAug 26 19:12
iophkyou can't avoid MSIE if you run Windows, it's part of the systemAug 26 19:12
twitterwhen challenged on stage, they admitted that they logged users search termsAug 26 19:12
iophkyou have to drop windows to be rid of MSIEAug 26 19:12
iophkUbuntu minus mono is a good choice thereAug 26 19:13
twitterand you can't avoid the logging.  the principle proved is that microsoft spies on users.Aug 26 19:13
ender_2600im sure the IE is not recording the keyword search of Chrome usersAug 26 19:13
ender_2600Google isAug 26 19:13
twitterMicrosoft later denied everything, only a zealot would trust them.Aug 26 19:13
iophkhttp://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com/2011/04/ubuntu-1104-removing-mono-intentionally.htmlAug 26 19:13
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ender_2600it seems that saying "YEs, turn on suggested sites" enables the spyingAug 26 19:13
ender_2600"I don.t think an average consumer realizes that if they say .yes, show me suggested sites. that they.re granting Microsoft permission to send their queries and clicks on Google to Microsoft, which will then be used in Bing.s ranking. I think my Mom would be confused that saying .Yes. to that dialog will send what she searches for on Google and what she clicks on to Microsoft. I don.t think that IE8.s disclosure is clear and Aug 26 19:14
twittersureAug 26 19:14
twitterwhatever you want to believeAug 26 19:14
ender_2600thats from the site you linkedAug 26 19:14
ender_2600im not an ms zealot, im a freedom activistAug 26 19:14
twitteror you could use free software, which allows verification Aug 26 19:15
ender_2600openbsd had an fbi backdoor in it for how long?Aug 26 19:15
iophklink?Aug 26 19:15
ender_2600http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/43995-openbsd-backdoor-claims-code-audit-beginsAug 26 19:15
twitteranyone who uses Windows must also trust Microsoft not to spy on themAug 26 19:15
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ender_2600twitter - i dont trust anyone not to spy on meAug 26 19:16
twitterif you advocate freedom, you would never advocate that kind of power over usersAug 26 19:16
twitterand therefore, you could never recommend Windows use Aug 26 19:16
ender_2600twitter - if they want to use windows, its their freedomAug 26 19:16
twitteryet here you are defending Microsoft's vile practices Aug 26 19:16
ender_2600im notAug 26 19:16
ender_2600im just saying windows server isn't as insecure as you're saying it is just because its microsoftAug 26 19:17
ender_2600if microsoft released it under the gplv3 along with all applicable patents and people would still trash itAug 26 19:17
twitternow you are putting words in my mouthAug 26 19:17
ender_2600im not defending vile practicesAug 26 19:18
ender_2600you're putting words in my mouthAug 26 19:18
twitterIf Windows had been released under gpl, it would look exactly like gnu/linux becuase that's  what users do with freedomAug 26 19:18
ender_2600it wouldn't look like linux or windowsAug 26 19:18
twitterI did not put words in your mouth, I said you were wrong.Aug 26 19:19
twitterand showed howAug 26 19:19
ender_2600with enough knowledge and third party software you can turn windows into as secure a box as linuxAug 26 19:19
twitternow, I'm going to ignore you because this conversation goes nowhere.Aug 26 19:19
ender_2600that was the only point I was makingAug 26 19:20
ender_2600really if you want privacy though you're going about it all wrongAug 26 19:20
ender_26001) You're not using your computer in a faraday cageAug 26 19:20
ender_26002) You're using your real name onlineAug 26 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ultimate break in deterrent sign - "Burglar Burgers on sale here"Aug 26 19:20
ender_26003) You're not using TOR to get into IRCAug 26 19:20
ender_26004) You're not using i2pAug 26 19:21
ender_26005) You don't have network firewall hardware you're using to packet inspect all your netwrok trafficAug 26 19:21
ender_26006) You're using someone elses precompiled binariesAug 26 19:21
ender_26007) You're not using an encrypted partiion and an encrypted home directoryAug 26 19:22
ender_26008) You don't have an amiga or a c64 running code in a loop to generate RF radiationAug 26 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #watching #HotelRwandaAug 26 19:22
ender_26009) You're not using a secure browserAug 26 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @rbanffy RT @MenteBinaria: #EuUsoLinux porque não tem "Clique aqui para iniciar". E continuamos no #TT!Aug 26 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @rbanffy RT @PiadasNerds: Um computador sem Windows é o mesmo que um bolo sem mostarda. #EuUsoLinuxAug 26 19:24
ender_260010) You didn't add physical ground wires to metal rods or plates b uried in the groundAug 26 19:24
ender_260011) Your window screens are not groundedAug 26 19:25
ender_260012) You transmit personal information to others sans a one time padAug 26 19:25
ender_2600and othersAug 26 19:25
ender_260013) Unencrypted voice telephonyAug 26 19:26
ender_2600there are far bigger things to worry about than the default security settings in an OSAug 26 19:27
ender_2600does ubuntu enable a firewall by default yet?Aug 26 19:27
ender_2600Fedora and openSUSE doAug 26 19:27
ender_2600I'd like to see a firewall/selinux or apparmor tie-inAug 26 19:28
ender_2600only allow apps outbound internet if they are in the selinux or apparmor db'sAug 26 19:28
ender_2600which are updated when you use your package managerAug 26 19:28
ender_2600fedora and opensuse also does partition encryptionAug 26 19:29
ender_2600ubuntu does home dir encryptionAug 26 19:29
ender_2600fedora is probably the safest and most secureAug 26 19:29
ender_2600that's what i'm using in my i2p vmAug 26 19:29
ender_2600not windowsAug 26 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Digging deeper with Gentoo Linux (The H) http://lwn.net/Articles/456535/rssAug 26 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Facebook and Windows Security Breach http://bit.ly/ruEcPH #Windows #Virus #security #facebookAug 26 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: NTorch – DUAL LED http://mge.bz/lq #Nokia #N900 #Maemo #ApplicationAug 26 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGoExperts: Update Configurator For #Nokia #N900 – #Maemo http://mge.bz/lrAug 26 19:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: EFF's two NSA warrantless wiretapping cases are back in court on August 31 https://eff.org/r.1AY #stopthespying #privacyAug 26 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Poking more holes in the first sale doctrine https://eff.org/r.5A7 #copyrightAug 26 19:37
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ender_2600http://sourceforge.net/projects/cherimoya/files/Aug 26 19:39
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ender_2600Cherimoya GNU/Linux :)Aug 26 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Who's familiar with Contact (contactcon.com)? Tell us about it--do you think it's something opensource.com should attend and cover?Aug 26 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Firefox Version Numbers Are Here to Stay, Mozilla Says http://tinyurl.com/3ltjvk8Aug 26 19:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox Version Numbers Are Here to Stay, Mozilla Says | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 77.48 KBAug 26 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110826 #sip_and_clickAug 26 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "The Innovator's Dilemma was mandatory reading [at Nokia] – and a fat lot of good it did them (Register): http://bit.ly/nGNsbmAug 26 19:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: coffee.jezra: a coffee a day photo project | 2011-08-26 .::. Size~: 3.91 KBAug 26 19:50
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ender_2600iophk - you can whitelist softare based on hashes, certificates and paths and even file types using Group PolicyAug 26 19:58
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iophkand it's all bypassableAug 26 19:59
ender_2600says who?Aug 26 20:00
ender_2600it even blocks windows DLL's if you set it up wrongAug 26 20:00
MinceRjust because it can be broken doesn't mean it's secure :>Aug 26 20:01
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ender_2600I've seen no evidence it's brokenAug 26 20:01
MinceRneither have iAug 26 20:03
MinceRthen again, i (thankfully) never had anything to do with it :>Aug 26 20:03
ender_2600the real bad guys have better ways of getting info out of youAug 26 20:04
ender_2600they get your friends to sell you out on facebookAug 26 20:04
MinceRyes, for instanceAug 26 20:05
MinceRthough if group policy is insecure then it isn't just a privacy issue :>Aug 26 20:05
ender_2600true but if privacy is your concern, replacing your OS is just *ONE* thing you need to doAug 26 20:09
ender_2600i dont know a single person with a faraday cageAug 26 20:09
ender_2600or even RF shielding paintAug 26 20:10
ender_2600there are companies that use the stuff to protect against external wifi accessAug 26 20:10
MinceRindeedAug 26 20:10
ender_2600im not sure if RF shielding paint works against a TEMPEST scanAug 26 20:10
ender_2600http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEMPESTAug 26 20:11
MinceRthough i trust ethernet more when it comes to physical isolation of my LAN :>Aug 26 20:11
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ender_2600yes same hereAug 26 20:11
ender_2600the only wifi I *could* ever trust is probably WPA2 Enterprise (Which uses LDAP and usernames/passwords, not one key)Aug 26 20:11
ender_2600but still, insecureAug 26 20:12
ender_2600someone could hold onto the packets for 20 years and break them laterAug 26 20:12
MinceRwhat about VPN over wifi?Aug 26 20:12
ender_2600the tunnel might be secureAug 26 20:13
ender_2600i'd be more satisfied using wifi with tor/vpn to a i2p vps in a safe countryAug 26 20:14
ender_2600lolAug 26 20:14
MinceRwhich country is safe?Aug 26 20:16
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ender_2600sweden and iceland are probably pretty safeAug 26 20:23
ender_2600according to what I read it's a good place to get a vpn serviceAug 26 20:24
MinceRagreed on iceland, not sure about swedenAug 26 20:24
ender_2600yeah i'm skeptical on sweden too because of the raid on piratebayAug 26 20:25
ender_2600however, they *are* still around :)Aug 26 20:25
ender_2600anonymous has a list of vpn providers and it says who logs IPsAug 26 20:26
ender_2600funny thing is their list of free providers says "if they aren't selling a service they are selling you"Aug 26 20:26
ender_2600which is true but I like the way they put itAug 26 20:28
ender_2600http://tanasinn.info/index.php?title=Cherimoya_GNU/LinuxAug 26 20:29
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MinceR:)Aug 26 20:31
ender_2600on my i2p vm, I got firefox 3.x configured to not send google info, and duckduckgo ssl is the default searchAug 26 20:32
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ender_2600google is actually annoying on i2pAug 26 20:33
ender_2600they hate not being able to track you tooAug 26 20:33
MinceRwhat do they do on i2p?Aug 26 20:37
ender_2600tries to autodetect your country and failsAug 26 20:37
ender_2600lolAug 26 20:37
ender_2600everytime I did a search it would load about 10% of the timeAug 26 20:38
MinceRlol @ "cruise control" @ tanasinnAug 26 20:38
ender_2600if it did load, I got another countryAug 26 20:38
ender_2600I read up on it and found out Google blocks i2p nodes when it finds themAug 26 20:39
MinceRicAug 26 20:39
ender_2600there aren't as many exits into clearnet as there are i2p usersAug 26 20:40
MinceRwhat if you use a search "engine" that proxies google through i2p?Aug 26 20:40
MinceR(startpage or scroogle)Aug 26 20:40
ender_2600duckduckgo does that in effectAug 26 20:40
MinceRDDG does not use google, afaikAug 26 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 107 dents!Aug 26 20:40
ender_2600DDG uses everythingAug 26 20:41
ender_2600google, bing, wolfram, wikipedia, imdb, blog search, etcAug 26 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Our friends @openvideo are offering discount registration for all our followers! http://ow.ly/610Dc Promo code: commonsatovcAug 26 20:42
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ender_2600DDG also runs their own tor exit nodesAug 26 20:42
ender_2600I don't know how it makes DDG on i2p faster but it isAug 26 20:44
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ender_2600http://www.gabrielweinberg.com/blog/2010/08/duckduckgo-now-operates-a-tor-exit-enclave.htmlAug 26 20:44
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ender_2600I think anon is better with politics than techrights, not negativity but constructive criticism. Roy is just one person and anonymous is legion.Aug 26 20:57
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MinceRafaict TR is not just negativityAug 26 20:59
ender_2600no I mean my comment towards TRAug 26 20:59
schestowitzender_2600: trueAug 26 21:02
schestowitzJust been driving around town for 3 houesAug 26 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Revelar los WikiLeaks de Guatemala | Plaza Publica http://t.co/m08uUS9Aug 26 21:02
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schestowitzdrove around many different parts with different ethnics and class fabricsAug 26 21:02
schestowitzto basically\ understand and discuss what might happenAug 26 21:03
ender_2600throwing apples at yobs?Aug 26 21:03
schestowitzMy friend uses the 2-million march in the UK against the Iraq war to make the point that we cannot win by campaigning with just wordsAug 26 21:03
schestowitzBut I told him thw  war was hugeAug 26 21:03
schestowitztrillions at stakeAug 26 21:03
schestowitzSo we *can* make a difference at smaller scaleAug 26 21:03
schestowitzFor instanceAug 26 21:03
schestowitzGE=~500,000 peopleAug 26 21:03
schestowitzNovell=~5000Aug 26 21:04
schestowitzNations are millionsAug 26 21:04
schestowitzSo to counter a nation, e.g. with a boycott, you need massive effortsAug 26 21:04
schestowitzThere was a building on fire todayAug 26 21:04
schestowitzin salfordAug 26 21:04
schestowitzwe stopped just 50 yards from itAug 26 21:04
schestowitzNot sure if it was arson, but the police detained some youngester, maybe unrelatedAug 26 21:05
schestowitzand it seems likely that unrest will increase, esp. where unemployment is rampantAug 26 21:05
schestowitzanyway, another discussion was the difference between exposition public figures with mass impact versus those whom it actually can shakeAug 26 21:06
schestowitzBottom line is, we do need legions at least of informed people to make a real impactAug 26 21:06
schestowitzAnd he said I should do more to expose bankers, however I am not an export or one with credentials in the areaAug 26 21:07
schestowitzSo we do have some people like Elmer doing this activismAug 26 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] fedora > debian, that is all *hides and watches*Aug 26 21:07
schestowitzAnyway, back to the news-reading now..Aug 26 21:07
ender_2600not many attack the bankstersAug 26 21:13
schestowitzseriously?Aug 26 21:15
schestowitzcare to say more?Aug 26 21:15
schestowitzi do notice something though. I get some people sub'ing to me when I do post a link on the topicAug 26 21:16
ender_2600in what regards?Aug 26 21:16
schestowitzexposing the evils they doAug 26 21:16
schestowitzi sub'ed to some sites critical of bankersAug 26 21:16
schestowitzdecent sitesAug 26 21:16
schestowitzthey give melinks to key nesAug 26 21:16
schestowitzevery day I post some links on the topicAug 26 21:16
ender_2600I saw some todayAug 26 21:16
schestowitzand I feel better about it... not ignoring some other issues eitherAug 26 21:17
schestowitzbut my focus is clearAug 26 21:17
schestowitzi can offer more knowledge in areas where I fathom ideas and don't just repaat someAug 26 21:17
schestowitzit's easy to become one side's parrotAug 26 21:17
schestowitzas safly many people become, e.g. tea partAug 26 21:18
ender_2600http://www.zerohedge.com/news/rothschild-now-tbtf-plunge-protection-businessAug 26 21:18
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schestowitzI had to explain earlier that what I do is share abut 70 links a day and come up with about 10 posts of my ownAug 26 21:18
schestowitzthe linkage part is mostly a mere nodAug 26 21:18
schestowitzAnd an attempt to give one's voice that you agree with "higher score"Aug 26 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] All along had been wondering what was up, kumbe I had switched off data.Aug 26 21:19
schestowitzcerohedge is goodAug 26 21:19
schestowitzmy mate reads it tooAug 26 21:19
schestowitzhe used to read another siteAug 26 21:19
schestowitzbut the site got infiltratdAug 26 21:19
ender_2600Rothschild is profiting off of other peoples misfortuneAug 26 21:20
ender_2600http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2011/08/19/usda-signs-mou-with-rockefellers-council-of-foundations-to-exploit-rural-america/Aug 26 21:20
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ender_2600Rockefeller is a big banker family tooAug 26 21:20
ender_2600LOL and in the UK, politicians using public funds for themselvesAug 26 21:23
ender_2600http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23980759-former-home-secretary-used-day-release-prisoners-to-paint-her-house.doAug 26 21:23
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ender_2600not the first time she has done thisAug 26 21:25
ender_2600she claimed expenses for two pornographic pay per view movies for her husband tooAug 26 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Admiration and glamourisation of wealth has allowed some financial 'firms' to bet on/against food and raise the prices (starving people)Aug 26 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman Sachs VP Moonlighting as Issa Staffer, Working Hard to Make Elizabeth Warren Look Bad http://ur1.ca/4z032 attacking good peopleAug 26 21:25
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schestowitzender_2600: thanks for the linksAug 26 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Prof. Elizabeth Warren said in an interview recently that she had avoided entering politics (despite invitations) because of this junkAug 26 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Regulation bad, greed good. Is this not a recipe for a financial collapse?Aug 26 21:29
MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2349Aug 26 21:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @okfn EU Travel Bursary for Open Government Data Camp 2011 bit.ly/p7CVdRAug 26 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spent 3 hours tonight driving around impoverished parts of the city. Saw a house set on fire (from 50 yards away). It's not improving,is it?Aug 26 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables: How various countries manage their terrorist watch lists http://t.co/HxG1G7TAug 26 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mac Lion blindly accepts any LDAP password http://ur1.ca/4z049Aug 26 21:34
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ender_260017:25 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mac Lion blindly accepts any LDAP password http://ur1.ca/4z049Aug 26 21:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mac Lion blindly accepts any LDAP password • The Register .::. Size~: 30.28 KBAug 26 21:34
ender_2600bamAug 26 21:34
ender_2600that's the *real* super insecure OSAug 26 21:34
ender_2600loses pwn2own every yearAug 26 21:34
MinceRindeedAug 26 21:34
MinceRwho knows, maybe apple is just a conspiracy to make microsoft look goodAug 26 21:35
ender_2600LOLAug 26 21:35
ender_2600then why is iOS kicking their ass?Aug 26 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Now is your chance to meet up with @EFF at @burningman! https://eff.org/r.3BaAug 26 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] #linux20th episode on the Linux Action Show: bit.ly/nY7AU2Aug 26 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spoke to a Mac fan today. Asked him what's unique about Mac. He used some abstract adjectives. Asked to name actual features, he gave up.Aug 26 21:35
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cubezzzMinceR, I'm not sure that's possibleAug 26 21:35
ender_2600they're making windowsphone7 look pretty badAug 26 21:36
ender_2600if there is a conspiracy its probably to keep people on an Apple or MS platformAug 26 21:36
ender_2600an 'authorized' platformAug 26 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It takes ignorance to fail to choose a technology which technically works better. To choose hobbled technology & pay extra.. it takes a Mac.Aug 26 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jonobacon: Nice article on Linux's 20th birthday on CNN - glad I made the cut - http://t.co/sftkXHuAug 26 21:37
MinceRmaybe it failedAug 26 21:37
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MinceRafter all, wm5 and wm6 were better than hypeOSAug 26 21:37
ender_2600not reallyAug 26 21:38
MinceR(or, to be more exact, they sucked less than it)Aug 26 21:38
ender_2600wm5 and 6 were even worseAug 26 21:38
MinceRnopeAug 26 21:38
MinceRthey had real multitasking and copy/pasteAug 26 21:38
MinceRand native applicationsAug 26 21:38
ender_2600no comparision when you include blackberry and palmAug 26 21:38
MinceRwith install packages that you could installAug 26 21:38
MinceRblackberry is just javaAug 26 21:38
ender_2600which were killing it when wm6 was popularAug 26 21:39
MinceRpalm didn't even have multitasking before webOSAug 26 21:39
ender_2600true but multitasking on a slow device doesn't make it betterAug 26 21:39
MinceRactually it doesAug 26 21:39
MinceRbeing able to quickly switch between a pdf reader and a note taker, for example, was indeed usefulAug 26 21:40
ender_2600I could also switch between a music player and the other apps on my Palm TXAug 26 21:40
MinceRand being able to run just about any music player in the background was even more usefulAug 26 21:40
MinceR(as opposed to the two or three music players that supported the horrible hacks that let you play music in the background on palmos)Aug 26 21:40
ender_2600the best one for palm was also the best one for wm6Aug 26 21:41
MinceRi don't remember what i used on themAug 26 21:41
ender_2600i cant remember eitherAug 26 21:41
ender_2600iAug 26 21:41
ender_2600i've owned a wm6 deviceAug 26 21:41
ender_2600an htc touchAug 26 21:41
MinceRi still have a wm5 device somewhere, not sure if i could still boot itAug 26 21:41
MinceRi didn't get into wm6Aug 26 21:42
ender_2600my gf has a wm hp ipaq that was her dadsAug 26 21:42
ender_2600wm5Aug 26 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Secrecy, leaks, and the real criminals http://ur1.ca/4z05c !wikileaks #secrecyAug 26 21:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Secrecy, leaks, and the real criminals - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 78.17 KBAug 26 21:42
ender_2600the UI is so uglyAug 26 21:42
ender_2600the apps suckAug 26 21:42
MinceRthe clock sucksAug 26 21:42
MinceRthe alarm is unreliableAug 26 21:42
ender_2600yeah, Bell replaced the clock on mineAug 26 21:43
MinceRthe home screen is unreliable and you can't restart it without rebooting when it crashesAug 26 21:43
ender_2600I had to reboot that thing quite oftenAug 26 21:43
MinceR(at least symbian got that part right)Aug 26 21:43
MinceR(at least in s60, that is)Aug 26 21:43
ender_2600even opera crashed it sometimesAug 26 21:43
ender_2600poor choice of twitter clientsAug 26 21:44
ender_2600the msn client they give you fucks with your contacts tooAug 26 21:44
ender_2600it used to create duplicate entries for people I had on msn who didnt have phone numbers in their msn profileAug 26 21:45
ender_2600now im on blackberry, the apps still suck but at least it has someAug 26 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 533 Australia-US embassy cables! http://t.co/ysAlBGyAug 26 21:45
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 21:45
MinceRblackberry has no support for native code though, afaikAug 26 21:46
ender_2600I use gtalk on my blackberry to post to identicaAug 26 21:46
ender_2600blackberry os is being replacedAug 26 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @greve RT @reiter !LiMux in Munich already saved 5.6M Euros compared to the alternative: http://is.gd/QsjkgE (in !DE) Using GNU syste ...Aug 26 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @doctorow: 15 minutes off the plane in Toronto and we've already been stopped by the copsAug 26 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @NickBallard: BlackBerry handsets will be able to run Android apps http://t.co/UfowoWO via @regvultureAug 26 21:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OB Ude schwört auf Linux und enthüllt peinliche Migrationsdetails im AA .::. Size~: 85.77 KBAug 26 21:47
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ender_2600they purchased QNXAug 26 21:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FernandeGunsolu/status/107187838528917504Aug 26 21:49
TechrightsBot-tr@FernandeGunsolu: @schestowitz Lol RT @AbdulHamidAhmad: Interesting read: Found at Gadhafi compound: Condoleezza Rice photos. http://t.co/pjC4HYtAug 26 21:49
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 21:49
ender_2600it would be awesome if Google purchased RIM tooAug 26 21:49
ender_2600giving Android BES supportAug 26 21:49
MinceRwell, at least they couldn't do much harm with itAug 26 21:49
ender_2600they need ammo against Apple/MSFTAug 26 21:50
MinceRindeedAug 26 21:50
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81736428Aug 26 21:50
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 20:46:55 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz isn't that mounties?Aug 26 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RMS and Nina Paley panel: http://questioncopyright.org/appearances/2011/scranton_book coming up on October 1st, in PA !fsf !gnuAug 26 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 466 Bulgaria-US embassy cables! http://t.co/aWtzCZdAug 26 21:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nina Paley and Richard M. Stallman at the Pages & Places Book Festival in Scranton, PA | QuestionCopyright.org .::. Size~: 18.26 KBAug 26 21:50
ender_2600BES currently uses exchange, im wondering if Google would be able to adapt that to Google Apps for Domains which also uses exchangeAug 26 21:50
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 21:50
ender_2600I think it uses their own version of exchangeAug 26 21:51
schestowitzI think @qu1j0t3  would like to know about thisAug 26 21:51
schestowitzToronota a cop cityAug 26 21:51
schestowitz*toAug 26 21:51
MinceRwhy would they insist on exchange?Aug 26 21:51
MinceRexchange is the shittiest excuse for a mail server i've ever usedAug 26 21:51
ender_2600its better than pop3Aug 26 21:51
ender_2600I'd rather they use an exchange cloneAug 26 21:51
sebsebsebDownloading Fedora 16 alphaAug 26 21:52
sebsebsebhopefuly the Live CD will work properly on this computerAug 26 21:52
ender_2600im not sure of imap vs exchange thoughAug 26 21:52
MinceRat least pop3 doesn't eat my attachments because it doesn't like the filename extensionAug 26 21:52
sebsebsebwhich didn't happen with the Fedora 15 Live CD, but that one did on the other computerAug 26 21:52
MinceRand it doesn't mangle all the headersAug 26 21:52
ender_2600what about imapAug 26 21:52
MinceRand at least pop3 is a standardAug 26 21:52
MinceRimap is preferable, of courseAug 26 21:52
ender_2600I don't know much about exchange, other than that I like it better than pop3Aug 26 21:53
MinceRwell, i'm not sure if i'd prefer pop3 or imap for the case when i'm aiming to download messages from the server for local storageAug 26 21:53
ender_2600imap seems to do the same jobAug 26 21:53
ender_2600is ldap user lists something thats part of imap?Aug 26 21:54
MinceRalso, exchange tends to require outlook, which is also horribly crapAug 26 21:54
ender_2600contact list bookAug 26 21:54
MinceRfor example, it completely and utterly fails at inline responsesAug 26 21:54
MinceRender_2600: not sureAug 26 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Congratulations to @KrisBuytaert, our #linux20th T-shirt winner! Two of these gems are on their way to him now: http://bit.ly/qGGIIJAug 26 21:54
ender_2600well, google uses exchange for syncing contacts on your windows mobile phoneAug 26 21:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux.com Store .::. Size~: 35.33 KBAug 26 21:54
ender_2600for email itself they have an app for that which works better than most phones built in clientAug 26 21:54
MinceRalso, there seems to be no way to get a tray icon notification on messages that you sort into another folderAug 26 21:55
MinceReven for the popup window you need to explicitly ask for it in the ruleAug 26 21:55
MinceRotherwise outlook just forgets about itAug 26 21:55
ender_2600yeah outlook does suckAug 26 21:55
ender_2600I had to spend a few hours moving mail around to fix a 2gb mailbox size limitationAug 26 21:56
ender_2600the person had outlookxp/2002 mailboxesAug 26 21:56
MinceRmust have been easy, with all those standard mailbox formats m$ uses :>Aug 26 21:56
ender_26002003 increased the limit in the new formatAug 26 21:56
ender_2600people hold onto too much emailAug 26 21:56
ender_2600my users archive their deleted items lolAug 26 21:57
MinceRno, people insist on using software that can't handle email properlyAug 26 21:57
MinceRand keep it in stupid proprietary formats instead of MaildirAug 26 21:57
ender_2600despite its problems its easy to useAug 26 21:57
ender_2600thats why people stick with itAug 26 21:57
MinceRthen again, Maildir won't work so well on a m$ filesystemAug 26 21:58
MinceRsince filesystems is yet another thing m$ totally sucks atAug 26 21:58
ender_2600outlook needs exchange or it sucksAug 26 21:58
ender_2600exchange stores the calander, tasks and emailsAug 26 21:58
MinceRtranslation: outlook sucksAug 26 21:58
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MinceRoutlook 2010 actually managed to suck even more than outlook 200x, which i wasn't aware was possibleAug 26 21:59
ender_2600they can also send out invites using the proprietary standardAug 26 21:59
ender_2600yeah outlook 2010 is the worst client i've ever seenAug 26 21:59
ender_2600for anythingAug 26 21:59
MinceRthey've implemented the Ribbon, which combines the weaknesses of toolbars with the weaknesses of menusAug 26 21:59
ender_2600ribbon makes it impossible to do anythingAug 26 22:00
ender_2600more support calls = $$$Aug 26 22:00
ender_2600since support is not freeAug 26 22:00
MinceRand they've changed the interface to the tasks, making it extremely easy to lose the distinction between two categories of tasksAug 26 22:00
MinceRribbon also makes the titlebar look butt ugly, with all sorts of crud fighting for space on itAug 26 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 678 Greece-US embassy cables! http://t.co/CYRKhR4Aug 26 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As Steve Jobs Steps Down, #Linux Turns 20: Which Changed the World More? http://ur1.ca/4yu11 better question: who changed for better/worse?Aug 26 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 283 Hungary-US embassy cables! http://t.co/Kca00LWAug 26 22:00
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 22:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: As Steve Jobs Steps Down, Linux Turns 20: Which Changed the World More? .::. Size~: 47.74 KBAug 26 22:01
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ender_2600the ui even slows down the remote connection latencyAug 26 22:01
ender_2600i have to wait forever for it to draw everythingAug 26 22:01
ender_2600over and overAug 26 22:01
MinceRindeedAug 26 22:02
MinceRsometimes windows gets tired of waiting and draws the default titlebar over itAug 26 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Most viewed this week: Photos: Gallery presenting the first twenty years of Linux | http://red.ht/oitAPm #linuxconAug 26 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Glenn Mulcaire names News of the World staff behind phone hacking http://is.gd/HHVOTGAug 26 22:02
ender_2600then draws white over the appAug 26 22:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Photos: Gallery presenting the first twenty years of Linux | opensource.com .::. Size~: 44.28 KBAug 26 22:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Glenn Mulcaire names News of the World staff behind phone hacking | Media | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 97.1 KBAug 26 22:02
ender_2600"Not Responding"Aug 26 22:02
MinceRindeedAug 26 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quick Look at #BodhiLinux 1.1.0 http://ur1.ca/4z07u "lot has been written about Bodhi Linux in its short existence." #ubuntu #enlightenmentAug 26 22:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux, BSD, and everything else...: Quick Look at Bodhi Linux 1.1.0 .::. Size~: 135.28 KBAug 26 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 2,221 India-US embassy cables! http://t.co/RnIF7oHAug 26 22:07
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 22:07
ender_2600Bodhi is niceAug 26 22:09
ender_2600ubuntu with enlightenmentAug 26 22:09
ender_2600http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/10/x-reasons-to-give-e17-try.htmlAug 26 22:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thoughts on Technology: Eight Reasons to give E17 a Try .::. Size~: 136 KBAug 26 22:12
ender_2600schestowitz - you should give Cherimoya GNU/Linux some attentionAug 26 22:13
ender_2600http://tanasinn.info/index.php?title=Cherimoya_GNU/LinuxAug 26 22:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cherimoya GNU/Linux - Tanasinn.info .::. Size~: 31.49 KBAug 26 22:13
ender_2600It's the tin foil hat version of Arch/ChakraAug 26 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #HotelRwanda is an excellent nut harrowing movie, well worth watchingAug 26 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 1,006 Pakistan-US embassy cables! http://t.co/MiZthXAAug 26 22:22
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DrumScum23:01 <@MinceR> sometimes windows gets tired of waiting and draws the default titlebar over itAug 26 22:24
DrumScumhehe, see that a lot tooAug 26 22:24
DrumScumlousy MS OfficeAug 26 22:24
*DrumScum doesn't like office programs at allAug 26 22:25
*MinceR neitherAug 26 22:25
DrumScumnot even open/libreAug 26 22:25
MinceR(except for spreadsheets)Aug 26 22:25
MinceR(though those would be benefited by throwing WYSIWYG out as well)Aug 26 22:26
DrumScumfor simple spreadsheets i use scAug 26 22:26
MinceRsc?Aug 26 22:27
DrumScumi think that's short for sheet calculator or somethingAug 26 22:27
ender_2600<--google docsAug 26 22:28
DrumScumyeah, that's ok tooAug 26 22:30
DrumScumalthough i'm not to comfortable with my stuff 'in the cloud'Aug 26 22:30
DrumScumbut yeah, i do have some stuff on there...Aug 26 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @x11r5: @djurasan Get the hell you wasted all that i what anything to hardcoreAug 26 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF offers "Patent Trolls and You: EFF Virtual Boot Camp for App Developers" on Sept. 9: https://eff.org/r.5BbAug 26 22:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Join Us for "Patent Trolls and You: EFF Virtual Boot Camp for App Developers" | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 19.97 KBAug 26 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @mlinksva Seems #BarTab obsoleted by browser.sessionrestore.restore_hidden_tabs=false thx for yrs of awesomeness! #Firefox http://ur1 ...Aug 26 22:34
ender_2600lol thistleweb really hates meAug 26 22:36
ender_2600hes reporting me to statusnet for 'spamming him'Aug 26 22:37
schestowitzwot?!Aug 26 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Notice how #Mono and #Xamarin are mostly unheard of. The promise of continued development was empty. Why depend on Mono then? Unsafe.Aug 26 22:52
MinceRhttp://www.qdb.us/60330Aug 26 22:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: QDB: Quote #60330 .::. Size~: 12.2 KBAug 26 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Support NY @AGSchneiderman and other AGs fighting to hold banks accountable for criminal activity. http://bit.ly/r0bisiAug 26 22:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Don't let Wall Street crooks get a free pass .::. Size~: 14.83 KBAug 26 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @schestowitz Notice how #Mono and #Xamarin are mostly unheard of. The promise of continued development was empty. Why depend on Mono ...Aug 26 22:59
MinceRgnAug 26 22:59
schestowitzDiablo-D3: thanksAug 26 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] anyone interested in a live dent of the hurricane? don't wanna be spamming if no one wants it.Aug 26 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The !EFF Reflects On ICE Seizing a Tor Exit Node http://is.gd/k0IKiDAug 26 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Minimized Window Thumbnails in the Switcher http://ur1.ca/4z0fw Sam from Canonical. Also see #Ubuntu Development Update http://ur1.ca/4z0fyAug 26 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Running #Wayland On #Ubuntu 11.10 http://ur1.ca/4z0g9 applies to some other distros as well. #gnu #linuxAug 26 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The EFF Reflects On ICE Seizing a Tor Exit Node - Slashdot .::. Size~: 159.56 KBAug 26 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Minimized Window Thumbnails in the Switcher | be careful, he might break your display .::. Size~: 35.11 KBAug 26 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.10 Development update .::. Size~: 38.34 KBAug 26 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Running Wayland On Ubuntu 11.10 .::. Size~: 18.97 KBAug 26 23:04
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81736691Aug 26 23:05
TechrightsBot-tr@Marjolein Katsma (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 20:52:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz so even *public* information is "classified"? 1984^2!Aug 26 23:05
schestowitzTo protect us from all the TERROR~1Aug 26 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #mandriva Getting to Gold http://ur1.ca/4z0gf #gnu #linuxAug 26 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @diablod3 The !EFF Reflects On ICE Seizing a Tor Exit Node http://is.gd/k0IKiDAug 26 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @marjoleink: @schestowitz so even *public* information is "classified"? 1984^2!Aug 26 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 590 Ghana-US embassy cables! http://t.co/acAs1CfAug 26 23:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Getting to Gold | Mandriva Blog .::. Size~: 39.41 KBAug 26 23:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The EFF Reflects On ICE Seizing a Tor Exit Node - Slashdot .::. Size~: 159.54 KBAug 26 23:06
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 23:06
schestowitzThe macroll wants to alunch an anti-Techrights web siteAug 26 23:10
schestowitzThat would be funnyAug 26 23:10
schestowitzAdvertise us like that..Aug 26 23:10
schestowitzLike the boycott-boycottnovell siteAug 26 23:10
schestowitzThey really don't know how opposition should workAug 26 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 503 Belarus-US embassy cables! http://t.co/6tRh03WAug 26 23:10
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 23:10
schestowitzAnd follow scummy trolls support this troll http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/17873fdb8062a7f7#Aug 26 23:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups .::. Size~: 43.07 KBAug 26 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 238 Liberia-US embassy cables! http://t.co/CjjAPTxAug 26 23:15
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who uses !Fedora as a server? http://ur1.ca/4z0hn "I think it all depends on the situation."Aug 26 23:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who uses Fedora as a server? «  Code Ghar .::. Size~: 42.59 KBAug 26 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SCOracle Does Some Open-Source Good With TTM http://ur1.ca/4z0hsAug 26 23:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Oracle Does Some Open-Source Good With TTM .::. Size~: 18.46 KBAug 26 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Flash 11: It contains a kcmodule for !KDE ! http://ur1.ca/4z0i0 #Flash just needs to be killed with fire when all users have #webm supportAug 26 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] masked udev-171 and linux-headers-2.6.38 due to potential issues. You can still test them.... :)Aug 26 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 929 Albania-US embassy cables! http://t.co/evtKATAAug 26 23:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Romain Perier's blog | Flash 11: It contains a kcmodule for KDE ! .::. Size~: 33.22 KBAug 26 23:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Distro Breakdown in the Netflix/Linux Petition http://ur1.ca/4z0i8 curious graph/pie chart. #gnu #linux #netflixAug 26 23:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From the Canyon Edge - :-Dustin Kirkland: Distro Breakdown in the Netflix/Linux Petition .::. Size~: 54.93 KBAug 26 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters http://ur1.ca/4z0ih We Are All Linux UsersAug 26 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 494 Lesotho-US embassy cables! http://t.co/CUxtEdFAug 26 23:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters .::. Size~: 167.37 KBAug 26 23:25
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some mentally-retarded anti-Linux troll has just started an anti-Techrights Web site. Why? He got banned for trolling.Aug 26 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 372 Madagascar-US embassy cables! http://t.co/vzYiGGNAug 26 23:30
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 23:30
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81741680Aug 26 23:31
TechrightsBot-tr@Claudio (claudiom)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 22:24:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Why is PacMan yelling? :-pAug 26 23:31
schestowitzAsk MarkSAug 26 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat will move to downtown Raleigh http://ur1.ca/4z0j6 Where?! http://ur1.ca/4z0jaAug 26 23:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat will move to downtown Raleigh -            Technology  - NewsObserver.com .::. Size~: 126.33 KBAug 26 23:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Petula Clark - Downtown       - YouTube .::. Size~: 98.02 KBAug 26 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot frozen http://ur1.ca/4z0jd preparing for release in 2 months. #gnu #linux #desktopAug 26 23:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot frozen - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 36.99 KBAug 26 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 1,853 Kuwait-US embassy cables! http://t.co/oUXkgW7Aug 26 23:35
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Digging deeper with #Gentoo #Linux http://ur1.ca/4z0k7 "Gentoo is not like other Linux distribution. The Gentoo swims faster"Aug 26 23:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Digging deeper with Gentoo Linux - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.29 KBAug 26 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Windows user’s guide to Linux http://ur1.ca/4z0ki "This is your first step. Linux is not homogeneous like Windows or OS X."Aug 26 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 108 Fiji-US embassy cables! http://t.co/2S8J1M7Aug 26 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] have #EA finally gone too far with #DRM as to commit commercial suicide? http://goo.gl/8WSMzAug 26 23:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Windows user’s guide to Linux « Software « MyBroadband Tech and IT News .::. Size~: 50.19 KBAug 26 23:41
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 23:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EA's Origin Service Wants To Exchange Games For Your Personal Data | Techdirt .::. Size~: 214.23 KBAug 26 23:41
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81742574Aug 26 23:44
TechrightsBot-tr@Nick "Dhraakellian" Tryon (dhraak)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 22:39:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Either that, or Adobe needs to free the flash player. This could actually help them keep flash relevant #keepdreamingAug 26 23:44
schestowitzFlash will stay necessary to some who play online games, for now.Aug 26 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #ArchLinux Update Has Linux3 http://ur1.ca/4z0l5Aug 26 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 104 Burkina Faso-US embassy cables! http://t.co/vwlLs9DAug 26 23:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Arch Linux moves up to Linux 3.0 .::. Size~: 19.96 KBAug 26 23:46
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @MorinToon: Big govt is the satellite that tells you where the hurricane is going. Big Govt is the shelter you to go to save your life.Aug 26 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 1,336 Dominican Republic-US embassy cables! http://t.co/I9iU7AtAug 26 23:50
TechrightsBot-tr@: Aug 26 23:50
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81735115Aug 26 23:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 26-Aug-11 20:22:15 UTC - Identi.ca: What's Really Bugging Goldman Sachs Investors: The Ticker http://ur1.ca/4z02r the media does not encourage antagonism towards greed, so..Aug 26 23:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: What's Really Bugging Goldman Sachs Investors: The Ticker - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 80.15 KBAug 26 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] State Dept brings US IT companies to #Thailand to criticize #OpenSource Paras 9-12 http://t.co/vqucamf #wlfindAug 26 23:55
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