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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 75 Gambia-US embassy cables! http://t.co/8Pzsm5rAug 27 00:01
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schestowitzWeather for the next few days looks pretty bad and not good enough to permit outdoor activities http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9Aug 27 00:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 1,364 Italy-US embassy cables! http://t.co/tbB7LqFAug 27 00:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lubuntu/@lubuntu] Lubuntu 11.10 testing http://tinyurl.com/3o6g42cAug 27 00:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lubuntu 11.10 testing | lubuntu .::. Size~: 18.09 KBAug 27 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 193 Cameroon-US embassy cables! http://t.co/Q5TidZsAug 27 00:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Astonishing 2008 April Fools cable: US Ambassador threatens hunger strike to force (corrupt) India nuclear deal http://t.co/GVKj8zwAug 27 00:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 722 Haiti-US embassy cables! http://t.co/pnTiX7xAug 27 00:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 119 Grenada-US embassy cables! http://t.co/aqyJ8KeAug 27 00:25
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye95hYH992EAug 27 00:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Worst Classroom Ever       - YouTube .::. Size~: 109.95 KBAug 27 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #OggcampSessions http://is.gd/3xQ3Q5 - every vid I try maxes the CPU out & give a whopping like 3 frames per min, will try again laterAug 27 00:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Watch OggCamp episodes on blip.tv .::. Size~: 31.41 KBAug 27 00:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 26/8/2011: Twenty Years of Linux Celebrated, KDE SC 5.0 Foreseen http://ur1.ca/4z0y0 !techrightsAug 27 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 26/8/2011: Twenty Years of Linux Celebrated, KDE SC 5.0 Foreseen http://ur1.ca/4z0y0 #techrightsAug 27 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Ambassadors & sex - what WikiLeaks cables say: http://t.co/02xheuLAug 27 00:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 1,210 Austria-US embassy cables! http://t.co/KX0CHWRAug 27 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 493 Ireland-US embassy cables! http://t.co/o2n88kiAug 27 00:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] wind is starting upAug 27 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 462 Malaysia-US embassy cables! http://t.co/437PHpfAug 27 01:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 424 Saudi-US embassy cables! http://t.co/Wc6JsJtAug 27 01:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 388 Cyprus-US embassy cables! http://t.co/dONc9kbAug 27 01:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jargon the US Fukushima 2tu.us/3gw1 !ussaAug 27 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 366 Sweden-US embassy cables! http://t.co/TpZ9y4oAug 27 01:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @oscon Social, mapping and mobile data will tell the story of Hurricane #Irene http://oreil.ly/rlMVXlAug 27 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @csmart "Make The Move" (to free software) gets Romanian translation :-) http://makethemove.net !Linux Thanks to Szilard Baranyi!Aug 27 01:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Social, mapping and mobile data tell the story of Hurricane Irene - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 57.87 KBAug 27 01:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: We welcome you to 'Make The Move' .::. Size~: 4.37 KBAug 27 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 67 UAE-US embassy cables! http://t.co/mBq95tnAug 27 01:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Joy, joy, joy. You got to love Unix.Aug 27 01:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 208 Bahamas-US embassy cables! http://t.co/4ideMGEAug 27 01:25
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Diablo-D3wikileaks is doing one of their big releases again?Aug 27 01:27
twitterImap is good for mobile devices that you don't want to use as an archive.  pop is good for your archive.  outlook is the worst piece of garbage you can put on you desktop to screw up and lose your mail - worthless search unless you opt in for spyware and feed all of your mail to bing and then it's still worthless, no useful threading and, of course, a stupid database format that reaches it's size limit and implodes.  Exchange is only goodAug 27 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] (correction: new 1,275 cables for UAE)Aug 27 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good Morning Singapore! It's Presidential Election Day. It's raining & overcast. Let's vote in someone we can be proud of. #sgelection #fbAug 27 01:47
twitterha ha, Steve Jobs legacy 330 patents, mostly about look and feel.  http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/26/technology/apple-patents-show-steve-jobss-attention-to-design.htmlAug 27 01:53
TechrightsBot-trMissing content type. Ignoring.Aug 27 01:53
twitterthat's 313 but who's counting ?Aug 27 01:53
twitterNo real inventions mentioned.Aug 27 01:54
twitterUS Federal Government shredding legal history.  http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/law_profs_worry_that_plan_to_pulp_millions_of_federal_court_files_will_dest/Aug 27 01:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Law Profs Worry That Plan to Pulp Millions of Federal Court Files Will Destroy Historical Goldmine - News - ABA Journal .::. Size~: 31.62 KBAug 27 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] It is true that your vote is secret. But that does not mean you cannot tell you friends, family, the world, Be bold & stand up. #sgelectionAug 27 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 795 Nepal-US embassy cables! http://t.co/oZJWlzdAug 27 02:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @climagic youtube-dl -q -o- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJS76Bf-ZYo | mplayer -cache 1000 - # Watch youtube streaming directly to ...Aug 27 02:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SMBC Theater - Dating Solutions       - YouTube .::. Size~: 104.94 KBAug 27 02:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] cool tip on using youtube-dl and mplayer - http://wp.me/pj2fj-to #fbAug 27 02:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cool tech tip « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 43.28 KBAug 27 02:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 27 Papua New Guinea-US embassy cables! http://t.co/Y9Y45PbAug 27 02:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 40 Macau-US embassy cables! http://t.co/FMCqHUDAug 27 02:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 516 Hong Kong-US embassy cables! http://t.co/mFftpJMAug 27 02:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I've just signed up to be a coach at khanacademy.org http://www.khanacademy.org/ Let's make a real difference. #fbAug 27 02:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sameerverma Two remarkable things about my!ARM powered !OLPC XO 1.75 test unit. Its barely warm and once charged, runs for a *very* ...Aug 27 02:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Global Helium 3 shortage has stymied the global Megaport nuclear smuggling detection system http://t.co/pPoZFfy #wlfindAug 27 02:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I want a president with a heart, a heart that is compassionate. Not only a symbolic. But really. #fb #sgelection #sgpoliticsAug 27 02:37
twitterhttp://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/07/13/267754/heat-wave-nbc/Aug 27 02:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: After Story on Monster Heat Wave, NBC Asks “What Explains This?”  The Answer:  “We’re Stuck in a Summer Pattern”! | ThinkProgress .::. Size~: 39.1 KBAug 27 02:39
ender_2600twitter - pop is rather useless actually, imap for the winAug 27 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks editor detained now for 263 days without charge http://t.co/O7xJWdmAug 27 02:45
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ender_2600What do people think of Khan Academy? Secret Microsoft front?Aug 27 02:50
ender_2600Bill Gates did boost themAug 27 02:50
ender_2600must beAug 27 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] while #fedora says it needs a 400 MHz processor, that does not mean it runs well on 500 MHzAug 27 02:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 979 Vatican-US cables in searchable format http://t.co/TtR3CPrAug 27 03:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WIKILEAKS-RELEASE: 1,523 Bahrain-US cables in searchable format http://t.co/1yC4gY7Aug 27 03:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Cablegate tools: http://t.co/xtlwCgbAug 27 03:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bunker-busting GBU-28 bombs secretly delivered to Irsael by US in 2009 http://t.co/2L81WWGAug 27 03:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Pelegrín confirma EE.UU. rechazó ley derribo de aviones como evidenciaron cables Wikileaks. http://t.co/uf70CiXAug 27 03:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cable: Vatican urged US not to prosecute bishops for sex abuse of minors http://t.co/1NoBrDa #wlfindAug 27 03:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] It's all James #Gosling's fault.Aug 27 03:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Walked away from the last Bolt Bus out of Saigon...uh, I mean New York. Things are just going get too interesting this weekendAug 27 03:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Shake IT up" really shaken up! http://www.meritalk.com/video.php?user=SteveOKeeffe&video_id=158 #fbAug 27 04:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeriTalk - Steve O'Keeffe's video - Innovation Nation Shaken by Earthquake .::. Size~: 26.61 KBAug 27 04:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Backed up the computer of the Poet Laureate for the Temiskaming District, getting ready to publish her books this fall. #poetlaueateAug 27 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Jave EE 6 for PaaS now with OpenShift. - http://ur1.ca/4z24w #fbAug 27 04:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I Think I’ll PaaS on Heroku for Java: Overcompensating for Technical Inadequacy? | Red Hat Openshift Forum .::. Size~: 19.08 KBAug 27 04:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @shakthimaan TinyVM is a small, fast, lightweight virtual machine written in pure ANSI C https://github.com/GenTiradentes/tinyvm/tree ...Aug 27 04:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GenTiradentes/tinyvm - GitHub .::. Size~: 45.6 KBAug 27 04:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fontana or #sun giving him the freedom to do so?Aug 27 05:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] which image/photo sites are indexed/preferred by baidu? #seo #lazyweb !chinaAug 27 05:19
DaemonFChttp://www.jonobacon.org/2011/08/26/ubuntu-11-10-so-far-screenshot-tour/Aug 27 05:24
DaemonFChehAug 27 05:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.10 (So Far) Screenshot Tour  |  jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 147.76 KBAug 27 05:25
*DaemonFC sets MinceR's desktop to Unity 2dAug 27 05:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] So *that's* what all the noise outside was about. http://ur1.ca/4z29jAug 27 05:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] In receipt of email from #Mozilla explaining GNU/Linux distros (incl. !Ubuntu) are "built without any auto-update code" http://ur1.ca/4z2caAug 27 06:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] exhausted from getting ready for a family barbeque ... made more difficult by the fact I've ignored the yard in favour of !InconstantMoonAug 27 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Got 17 minutes to get to work.Aug 27 06:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Can't keep my hands out the cookie jar.Aug 27 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Late. In trouble.Aug 27 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Football - Handegg http://www.nastyhobbit.org/details.php?image_id=1606Aug 27 06:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Saturday's !InconstantMoon serialization installment is online: http://ur1.ca/4z2gq !selfPubAug 27 06:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "I don’t know what’s worse, the ones that wanna hang out with us or the ones that read Boingboing."~Detective Lewis http://ur1.ca/4z2gq !qAug 27 06:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] nitey night !IdentiverseAug 27 07:01
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/81761891Aug 27 07:13
TechrightsBot-tr@Marjolein Katsma (marjoleink)'s status on Saturday, 27-Aug-11 06:00:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz 'protect from' it doesn't, it's actually a form of terror itself.Aug 27 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android conference announces speakers http://ur1.ca/4z2kg #android #linuxAug 27 07:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android conference announces speakers - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.58 KBAug 27 07:26
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/If-your-business-is-in-Hurricane-Irenes-path-take-these-steps-now/?kc=rssAug 27 07:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: If your business is in Hurricane Irene's path, take these steps now - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.61 KBAug 27 07:29
schestowitzNot much coverage these daysAug 27 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sony Ericcson unveils Xperia Neo V, promises Gingerbread for other phones too http://ur1.ca/4z2l1 #linux #sony #SonyEriccsonAug 27 07:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sony Ericcson unveils Xperia Neo V, promises Gingerbread for other phones too - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 58.75 KBAug 27 07:32
schestowitzjono in lwn http://lwn.net/Articles/456500/Aug 27 07:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.10 (So Far) Screenshot Tour [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 23.2 KBAug 27 07:42
DaemonFCMesa just shrank by over 120,000 lines of codeAug 27 07:44
DaemonFCthey removed all dri 1 drivers, some legacy Windows crap, and beos supportAug 27 07:44
DaemonFCas well as some orphan files Aug 27 07:44
schestowitzyeah, heard about it...Aug 27 07:45
DaemonFCthe voodoo cards only did 3d acceleration, 2d was done via a pass through to the integrated chipsetAug 27 07:46
DaemonFCso I suppose that anyone with a voodoo card may as well just take it out now since it's not going to do anything at allAug 27 07:47
DaemonFCbut their opengl support was minimal anyway since they were designed with GLIDE in mindAug 27 07:47
Diablo-D3thats not right.Aug 27 07:47
DaemonFCmine only operated that wayAug 27 07:47
DaemonFCI had a Voodoo 2Aug 27 07:47
DaemonFCdid later ones do 2d acceleration?Aug 27 07:48
Diablo-D3voodoo 2s didnt use an intergrated chipset at allAug 27 07:48
Diablo-D3it used a user supplied 2D video cardAug 27 07:48
Diablo-D3vodooo 2s had a vga input and signal combinerAug 27 07:48
DaemonFCright, mine had a pass through cableAug 27 07:48
DaemonFCI had to connect it to the onboard vga output Aug 27 07:49
Diablo-D3banshees had their own 2D core designed by banshee, although inferior 3D hardwareAug 27 07:50
schestowitzbungee?Aug 27 07:50
Diablo-D3er, designed by 3dfxAug 27 07:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cybercrime Treaty Pushes Surveillance and Secrecy Worldwide http://ur1.ca/4z2nu what's left to protect you from those who 'protect' you?Aug 27 07:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dangerous Cybercrime Treaty Pushes Surveillance and Secrecy Worldwide | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 30.32 KBAug 27 07:51
Diablo-D3voodoo 1/voodoo rush had the problem where other companies made the cards and put whatever 2D chip they wanted on, but used 3Dfx's 3D chipAug 27 07:51
Diablo-D3voodoo 3/4/5 were normal GPUs in the modern sense.Aug 27 07:51
DaemonFCso you could run into hardware bugs on one card that did not happen on another card which claimed to be the same model?Aug 27 07:52
DaemonFCcoolAug 27 07:52
Diablo-D3DaemonFC: they didnt claim to be the sameAug 27 07:52
Diablo-D3and I wouldnt say hardware bugsAug 27 07:52
Diablo-D3they were completely different 2D chipsetsAug 27 07:52
Diablo-D3and rather normal ones tooAug 27 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @lcafiero: Larry the Free Software Guy writes on Microsoft's 800-pound gorilla in the living room http://t.co/HVvaPORAug 27 07:52
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Diablo-D3DaemonFC: like, imagine how voodoo 2s workAug 27 07:52
Diablo-D3but on a single cardAug 27 07:52
Diablo-D3any 2D chip you want, combined with a 3D chip Aug 27 07:53
Diablo-D3remember, this was at a time 3D chips were basically gigantic math accelerators plugged into framebuffersAug 27 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Spotify is Defective by Design http://ur1.ca/4xrs6 #dbd #drmAug 27 07:54
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DaemonFCI remember mine was boasting about having 12 MB of vramAug 27 07:54
Diablo-D3oh sorryAug 27 07:54
Diablo-D3voodoo 1s were like voodoo 2sAug 27 07:54
DaemonFCand that you could overclock it safely to 100 mhzAug 27 07:54
DaemonFCB-)Aug 27 07:54
Diablo-D3voodoo rushes are like I described, voodoo 1 + manuf chosen 2D chipAug 27 07:55
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/tracyrreed/statuses/106940981194129408Aug 27 08:01
TechrightsBot-tr@tracyrreed: And my slashdot ID is 3563. Just sayin'. :)Aug 27 08:01
schestowitzwowAug 27 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @tracyrreed ..Linux's birthday. Can't believe I've been using it 18 of those years.Every dollar earned my whole adult life is due to LinuxAug 27 08:04
schestowitzI guess we're doing something right because another anti-Linux troll has created another anti-techrights siteAug 27 08:04
schestowitzThey don't seem to understand that such sites would only /amplify/ usAug 27 08:04
schestowitzIt's like Huff and Puff to FoxAug 27 08:05
DaemonFCschestowitz: Jono forgets to mention that there's no way to change your screensaver Aug 27 08:16
DaemonFCand that any application that still expects to close to the system tray is broken, stillAug 27 08:16
DaemonFCand now there's only one theme, the one Unity comes with :)Aug 27 08:17
DaemonFCkind of makes me wonder why they try to redo everything when they don't want to get the little things rightAug 27 08:18
schestowitzcanonical copyrightsAug 27 08:18
schestowitz"we need our IP"Aug 27 08:18
DaemonFCKubuntu Oneiric isn't too badAug 27 08:19
DaemonFCreally, Unity only has a few major things wrong with itAug 27 08:19
DaemonFCbut the problem is that those design flaws are intentional, so they are not considered problems to be fixed Aug 27 08:20
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DaemonFCin that regard, it is very much like GNOME 3Aug 27 08:20
schestowitzwhat's wrong w/ gnome3?Aug 27 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top 10 Announcements to Expect from HP CEO Leo Apotheker http://ur1.ca/4z2rzAug 27 08:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Top 10 Announcements to Expect from HP CEO Leo Apotheker « FOSS Force .::. Size~: 83.74 KBAug 27 08:22
DaemonFCthe way they are improving the traditional desktop metaphor, in the sense of a metaphor, is like rewriting an entire book is a way to fix a few typosAug 27 08:22
DaemonFCoverkillAug 27 08:23
DaemonFCalso, a one size fits all approach is hardly ideal Aug 27 08:24
DaemonFCsome have pointed out, for example, that there's no way to move the dockAug 27 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu 11.10's Default Wallpaper http://ur1.ca/4z2s9 possibly their best one ever and it's blue for a changeAug 27 08:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 11.10's Default Wallpaper - Softpedia .::. Size~: 55.15 KBAug 27 08:24
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DaemonFCtheir default wallpaper is just something GNOME has defaulted to for a while nowAug 27 08:25
DaemonFCstill, it's nice to see something that isn't brown and purpleAug 27 08:25
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DaemonFCmy body has produced more attractive color schemes when I was illAug 27 08:26
DaemonFC:)Aug 27 08:26
schestowitzyes,  I know it's the gnome wallpaperAug 27 08:28
DaemonFCschestowitz: GNOME 3 and Unity just pick out of a grab bag of stupid things that should never be done to a desktop environmentAug 27 08:28
schestowitzIt's the humane theme ;-)Aug 27 08:28
schestowitztell jono when he's hereAug 27 08:29
DaemonFCUnity breaks the system tray, but GNOME SHell won't let you put shortcuts and files on your desktopAug 27 08:29
schestowitzWe spoke to him some days ago about how ubuntu doesn't get much exposure anymoreAug 27 08:29
DaemonFCit's like someone literally played pin the tail on the shitty GUI ideasAug 27 08:29
DaemonFCand GNOME got half and Unity got the otherAug 27 08:29
schestowitzAnd then he crated some screenshots galleryAug 27 08:29
schestowitzgnome3=fedora/redhatAug 27 08:30
DaemonFCschestowitz: People complain, they respond by doubling downAug 27 08:30
DaemonFCit's insane I know :)Aug 27 08:30
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'll eat my hat if GNOME 3 ever ends up in RHELAug 27 08:31
DaemonFCwhy would they do that to paying customers?Aug 27 08:31
DaemonFCdo they want to make them go away?Aug 27 08:31
DaemonFCGNOME Shell just strikes me as totally inappropriate for RHELAug 27 08:32
DaemonFCit's barely good enough to be a curiosity for someone with a CD to wasteAug 27 08:33
DaemonFCit's not horrible, it's just not goodAug 27 08:33
DaemonFCthey've taken a huge step back from GNOME 2.32Aug 27 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Did The Guardian intentionally pick a scary picture of Schmidt? http://ur1.ca/4z2u7Aug 27 08:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eric Schmidt, chairman of Google, condemns British education system | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 238.96 KBAug 27 08:34
DaemonFCschestowitz: "One million dollars!"Aug 27 08:34
DaemonFC:PAug 27 08:34
DaemonFCsomeone took a screenshot including one of their pirated bittorrent moviesAug 27 08:35
DaemonFChttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/images/stories/canonical_dash_home_1110.pngAug 27 08:35
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeAug 27 08:35
DaemonFCoh look, right next to SkypeAug 27 08:36
schestowitz:-)Aug 27 08:36
DaemonFCand Jono's pictures had Adobe Air in them, which is abandonedAug 27 08:36
schestowitzDoes ubuntu's site still sport ms skype in the front page?Aug 27 08:36
DaemonFCyesAug 27 08:36
schestowitzadobe air is dead on all platforms, they just didn't pass around the memo yetAug 27 08:36
schestowitzthey failed to gain tractionAug 27 08:37
schestowitzanf the promise their have of cross-platformAug 27 08:37
schestowitzThey kill that promise tooAug 27 08:37
schestowitzSo all you have now is a dependency layer nobody would conceivably wantAug 27 08:37
schestowitzlike building apps in xamlAug 27 08:37
schestowitzWhich is a dead effortAug 27 08:37
schestowitzxul..Aug 27 08:37
DaemonFCMiguel emphatically promotes XAMLAug 27 08:38
Diablo-D3XMLAWLAug 27 08:39
Diablo-D3ftfyAug 27 08:39
schestowitzsyfyAug 27 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I went on my mom's computer and this was in the search bar." http://imgur.com/7JJQKAug 27 08:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I went on my mom's computer and this was in the search bar.  - Imgur .::. Size~: 23.88 KBAug 27 08:41
schestowitzhttp://imgur.com/HqHuiAug 27 08:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: imgur: the simple image sharer .::. Size~: 8.72 KBAug 27 08:41
schestowitzIt's gonna rain today :/ Aug 27 08:42
schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9Aug 27 08:42
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DaemonFCschestowitz: the only problem with Kubuntu is all the Unity crap that spills over if you forget to use --no-install-recommends when installing things like Firefox and ThunderbirdAug 27 08:42
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DaemonFCNew York City issued an evacuation order for certain areasAug 27 08:43
DaemonFCdue to the hurricane Aug 27 08:43
DaemonFCfirst time that's ever happenedAug 27 08:44
DaemonFCstrange path that will take it up most of the east coast and into CanadaAug 27 08:45
DaemonFCfreaks of nature seem to be normal latelyAug 27 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Hey and don’t start bragging about the 60% market share Linux has on the server front." http://ur1.ca/4z2vsAug 27 08:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux a threat to Microsoft? No way! .::. Size~: 44.79 KBAug 27 08:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dream Studio 11.04 Official Release http://ur1.ca/4z2wf the number says what it's based onAug 27 08:52
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schestowitzDaemonFC: so it'll be a slow news weekAug 27 08:54
schestowitzHad this been in China, nobody would pay attentionAug 27 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wrap Up - Desktop Summit 2011 Berlin http://ur1.ca/4z2wk group photo shows how big the development team isAug 27 08:54
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schestowitzCause the hurricane of thisn force only can matter if there is a 'high-priority' targetAug 27 08:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/107359912333557761Aug 27 08:55
TechrightsBot-tr@zoobab: L'australien belge a 13deg #mttb2011 #cold http://t.co/GfIAWugAug 27 08:55
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schestowitz0_oAug 27 08:55
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/107362003705794560?iid=am-114009196113144320711410536&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Aug 27 09:03
TechrightsBot-tr@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz Mueller blocked me on G+ .http://t.co/w3BI2UsAug 27 09:03
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schestowitzHe doesn't like criticismAug 27 09:03
DaemonFCschestowitz: My permanent ban seems to have been removed finally on #kubuntuAug 27 09:05
DaemonFCI could have sworn the demanded apology be something involving standing on one leg, blindfolded, reciting the night before christmas Aug 27 09:05
DaemonFC*would beAug 27 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @schestowitz Wrap Up - Desktop Summit 2011 Berlin http://ur1.ca/4z2wk group photo shows how big the development team isAug 27 09:06
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schestowitzyou got banned, eh?Aug 27 09:06
schestowitzWhat did you do?Aug 27 09:06
DaemonFCthat's the thing, it's been so long I don't even rememberAug 27 09:06
DaemonFCI remember thinking it was something trivial thoughAug 27 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Just a comment before I block you here..." --Microsoft Florian http://ur1.ca/4z2yh running away from critics, closing comments in his blog.Aug 27 09:07
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DaemonFCschestowitz: being "rude" in the opinion of a moderator is enough to get people banned from their forumAug 27 09:08
DaemonFCtalking about Mono in a negative way is also groundsAug 27 09:08
DaemonFCit's probably easier to list things they won't ban you forAug 27 09:09
DaemonFCalways agreeing with whatever they say is a good startAug 27 09:09
DaemonFCit's always safe to agree with themAug 27 09:09
schestowitzyesAug 27 09:10
schestowitzthank youAug 27 09:10
schestowitzyes, daddyAug 27 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ultimate Edition 2.6.3 http://ur1.ca/4z2ys "2.6.3 the 2.6 series is based on Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04 a Long Term Support (LTS)."Aug 27 09:11
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schestowitzanyway, if it's a kubuntu help forum, maybe you misused itAug 27 09:11
schestowitzit's not a place then to complain about development inAug 27 09:11
DaemonFCschestowitz: It's also safe to post howtos that will blow up someone's systemAug 27 09:11
DaemonFClike recommending ways to install nonfree driversAug 27 09:11
schestowitzit can blow xAug 27 09:12
schestowitznot the whole systemAug 27 09:12
DaemonFCif you suggest that the nonfree drivers are dangerous, you're being rudeAug 27 09:12
schestowitzalthough without x some people fumble in the darkAug 27 09:12
DaemonFCschestowitz: That's not the problemAug 27 09:12
schestowitzDaemonFC: depends on the circumstanceAug 27 09:12
schestowitzThe safe thing, isAug 27 09:12
schestowitzWhen setting up a machine afresh, install the drivers firstAug 27 09:12
DaemonFCthe problem is X is messed up and they've rigged it to always restart itself if there's troubleAug 27 09:12
schestowitzBefore getting it all set up entireluAug 27 09:13
DaemonFCso there's usually no way to get to a terminal and work things outAug 27 09:13
schestowitzJust to ensure you get past that barrierAug 27 09:13
schestowitzDaemonFC: the xorg  conf file is usually backed upAug 27 09:13
schestowitzyou just need to copy it, overriding the current one for exampleAug 27 09:13
schestowitzDaemonFC: I gave up trying to get full res on this other machineAug 27 09:14
schestowitzthe free intel driversAug 27 09:14
schestowitzThey don't give proper resolution 1920px wideAug 27 09:14
schestowitzand I can't think of something to install without risk that would get around thatAug 27 09:15
DaemonFCthe last time I used onboard Intel graphics, Windows XP had just come outAug 27 09:15
DaemonFC:)Aug 27 09:15
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/107364544749387777?iid=am-85321533413144326769737915&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Aug 27 09:21
TechrightsBot-tr@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz do you suggest I leave him alone and instead exposing/engaging with him cover the other side of the story without his mention?Aug 27 09:21
schestowitzA bit of bothAug 27 09:21
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/107367077010083840?iid=am-18336062913144332807083567&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Aug 27 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr@swapnilbhartiya: @schestowitz Thanks.Aug 27 09:42
schestowitzhehAug 27 09:42
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81771697Aug 27 09:45
TechrightsBot-tr@Dayo (jargon)'s status on Saturday, 27-Aug-11 08:42:35 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz desktops are about to become extinct,remember? ;)Aug 27 09:45
schestowitzprobably not extinct, but they're in declineAug 27 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Look Through !Fedora 16 Alpha http://ur1.ca/4z33h looks quite nice so farAug 27 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Speed Dial Coming In Firefox 9 http://ur1.ca/4z33p Nine? That's 3 times the branch 3.x I'm on...Aug 27 09:47
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DaemonFC"A vulnerability in F-Secure's Anti-Virus and Internet Security products allows systems to become infected with malicious code when users visit a specially crafted web site. "Aug 27 09:52
DaemonFCPrompting Microsoft to issue the alert that your system may be unsafe because you DO have antivirus software installed?Aug 27 09:52
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Threat-presented-by-F-Secure-ActiveX-component-1331871.htmlAug 27 09:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Threat presented by F-Secure ActiveX component - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 38.01 KBAug 27 09:52
schestowitzhttp://lwn.net/Articles/456513/Aug 27 09:53
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DaemonFCnginx is growing popular Aug 27 09:54
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/81772137Aug 27 09:57
TechrightsBot-tr@Dayo (jargon)'s status on Saturday, 27-Aug-11 08:48:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz possibly. but i doubt they're being replaced by smartphones/tabs as some suggest. more by laptops/netbooks,imo.Aug 27 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is rather odd that eWEEK puts proprietary Web-based software in a Linux site. Not even written by the Linux staff http://ur1.ca/4z34tAug 27 09:57
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schestowitzNo doubt, even based on HP's decision, it's like the sales of analogue cameras in the 1990sAug 27 09:57
schestowitz^^desktopsAug 27 09:57
schestowitzDaemonFC: where though?Aug 27 09:58
schestowitzapache keeps growingAug 27 09:58
schestowitzwith groth of sitesAug 27 09:58
schestowitzand AFAIK IIS is still fallingAug 27 09:58
DaemonFCIIS has never been the majorityAug 27 09:58
DaemonFCnot even closeAug 27 09:58
schestowitzI knowAug 27 09:58
schestowitzMaybe 15% based on what some people would tell you (not netcraft)Aug 27 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Adobe Unwanted Application Installation Draws Fire http://ur1.ca/4z35l #AdobeTrash #FlashAug 27 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Voted at Qifa Pri School. Dr Tan Cheng Bock it is. #sgelection #fbAug 27 10:02
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DaemonFCschestowitz: To be fair, Adobe Flash has probably sprung more leaks than any Windows program with the possible exceptions of Internet Explorer and OutlookAug 27 10:12
DaemonFCusers should be grateful that they have to stop what they're doing and kill their browser every 2-3 days because a new batch of Flash vulnerabilities have been patched :)Aug 27 10:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Back around 2007 Google distributed an applications bundle that included a lot of FOSS and Google blobs. Google no longer promotes this.Aug 27 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Telstra Cloud Gets Red Hat http://ur1.ca/4z38n #gnu #linux at a Microsoft allyAug 27 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Brand PAP is toxic" http://atans1.wordpress.com/2011/08/27/divining-tonites-results/ lol! #fb #sgpoliticsAug 27 10:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unlike Desktops, Demand for Servers Continues to Improve Around the World. http://ur1.ca/4z3aj Linux revenue growing 47.5%Aug 27 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #IDC only measures 'market share' in a way that belittles Linux, assuming that money is more important than usage/share.Aug 27 10:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Demand for Servers Continues to Improve Around the World - X-bit labs .::. Size~: 44.29 KBAug 27 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @bobduffy RT @IntelAppUp: I don’t know how Moodagent works, but I know it always has the perfect song to fit my mood. http://t.co/5SiIA0BAug 27 10:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 Secure Linux Distributions You Need Know About http://ur1.ca/4z3b8 it's not as though others are vulnerableAug 27 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Liqmandel - Mandelbrot fractal generator for the N900: http://t.co/kshWxOiAug 27 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Sandora - falling sand game for Maemo: http://t.co/92gz9W9Aug 27 10:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: SDLHana - Japanese Hanafuda card game for the N900: http://t.co/0XfI7usAug 27 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Iter Vehemens ad Necem (IVAN) - graphical roguelike game for the N900: http://t.co/Jhv1tQHAug 27 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_MeeGo: DOF Calc - Depth Of Field and hyperfocal distance calculator for the Nokia N9 / N950: http://t.co/cU4xPW0Aug 27 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_MeeGo: qTickSize for N9/N950 - mobile interface for the Swedish broker site: http://t.co/Sqdt0EJAug 27 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Today 456 of the world’s biggest supercomputers run a variant of Linux." http://ur1.ca/4z3dg #linux #hpcAug 27 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can I make Windows more like GNU/Linux? http://ur1.ca/4z3doAug 27 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Engineers looked carefully at Linux [...] but Jobs refused to use someone else's software." http://ur1.ca/4z3dx Steve Jobs, control freakAug 27 10:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finnish city's Red Hat virtualisation roll-out illustrates open source in local government http://ur1.ca/4z3em #Linux powered governmentAug 27 10:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Finnish city's Red Hat virtualisation roll-out illustrates open source in local government - 8/24/2011 - Computer Weekly .::. Size~: 64.03 KBAug 27 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source key to faster #Firefox releases: #Mozilla founder http://ur1.ca/4z3es "has been helpful for us as we accelerate our development"Aug 27 10:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source flight sim, #FlightGear , reaches 2.4 http://ur1.ca/4z3ey runs under #gnu #linuxAug 27 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Free and Open Source Software Downloads http://ur1.ca/4z3f1 all of them run well/better under GNU/Linux.Aug 27 11:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source storage users break free of vendor lock-in http://ur1.ca/4z3f9 #storage #lockinAug 27 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "old-fashioned corporation trying to come to terms with open source.. contributor agreement... churlish and contrarian" http://ur1.ca/4z3fiAug 27 11:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Collaboration does not mean absorption of other people's volunteer labour. That's laboration, not collaboration.Aug 27 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unity seems to have been created for reasons similar to Microsoft's Ribbon: ownership (patents/(c)), "ease of use" nonsense, annoying usersAug 27 11:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Report: Chinese military developing cyberwarfare tools http://ur1.ca/4z3fu Report: Microsoft developing honeypot tool. It's called Windows.Aug 27 11:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Update on the Home Secretary's social media 'riot summit' http://ur1.ca/4z3gc Britain is banning unrest. What's wrong with this picture?Aug 27 11:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google TV Coming to the UK…Finally! http://ur1.ca/4z3gp #linux in living roomsAug 27 11:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] On way to ORA dinner. I wonder what the topic of discussion will be? May the best RI boy win! #fb #sgelectionAug 27 11:26
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eefS0gayKFcAug 27 11:26
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schestowitzjust uploaded it seemsAug 27 11:27
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TVU2B_SmH0Aug 27 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Wondering why - after some !fedora updates - the Desktop moves from CTRL+F1 to CTRL+F7 ?Aug 27 11:29
MinceRgeekingsAug 27 11:32
schestowitzgeeksAug 27 11:33
schestowitzi'll do some posts shortlyAug 27 11:34
schestowitzthen coding... finally got access to a repo I neededAug 27 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @mdim Nina Paley wants a principled #FreeCulture movement, embraced by the #FreeSoftware community, including #FSF: ur1.ca/4yz8dAug 27 11:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 27/8/2011: Telstra and Finnish City Choose Red Hat http://ur1.ca/4z3i8 #techrightsAug 27 11:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A frog around the world - sun-java6 packages removed soon from !Debian !Ubuntu (and all other !linux distros) http://ping.fm/vNtTLAug 27 11:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !wl | Microsoft lobbies Thai Govt against !opensource "as a means to curb piracy" #wlfind http://goo.gl/CY05BAug 27 12:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How !FreeSoftware Contributed to the Success of Steve Jobs and Apple from O'Reilly Radar by Andy Oram http://goo.gl/0Ma0EAug 27 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @silner !wl | Microsoft lobbies Thai Govt against !opensource "as a means to curb piracy" #wlfind http://goo.gl/CY05BAug 27 12:06
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xjasonxbeen studying this sorting code and I think I'm starting to understand itAug 27 12:10
xjasonxanyone awake?Aug 27 12:10
xjasonxdon't really understand why he has his own version of memcpy thoAug 27 12:12
*MinceR is awakeAug 27 12:15
MinceRi think the answer to your question from last time was that code determined how well aligned the region was in memoryAug 27 12:16
MinceRthat could also be a reason for a custom memcpy, if the standard one doesn't strive to use the biggest integers it can to copy (but i suspect that it does)Aug 27 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] On the other hand, the way Apple has treated the !FreeSoftware community is an absolute disgraceAug 27 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US State Department Attacks Free Software on Microsoft’s Behalf http://ur1.ca/4z3oy #microsoft !wikileaksAug 27 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] US State Department Attacks Free Software on Microsoft’s Behalf http://ur1.ca/4z3oy #thailand #asia #bsa #lobbyingAug 27 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Klyuchnikov briefed on Microsoft's and BSA's ongoing IPR outreach campaign in the regions" http://ur1.ca/4z3pa #bsa #ukraine #lobbyingAug 27 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In #spain - Microsoft's own propaganda (own 'studies') cited to exaggerate the 'threat' of 'piracy' http://ur1.ca/4z3pe politicians misled.Aug 27 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In #egypt too - #Microsoft coopts the government for protection http://ur1.ca/4z3pkAug 27 12:29
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xjasonxMinceR: hmm, thanksAug 27 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft estimated that the GOE conducts 150 raids a month against software pirates." http://ur1.ca/4z3pm attacking own users in #egyptAug 27 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft Egypt described its relations with Egyptian enforcement authorities as "fruitful and long-term"" http://ur1.ca/4z3pxAug 27 12:31
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xjasonxI refuse to accept that a mono booster can come up with something faster than a glibc guy, but his code is faster  than if I substitute in memcpy()Aug 27 12:32
xjasonxso something is upAug 27 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the annoying thing about looking for a font for one project is there's so many that you get distracted & start thinking about other projectsAug 27 12:32
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xjasonxfwiw, his qsort() implementation is also faster than glibc'sAug 27 12:33
xjasonxwait, maybe that was a fluke. it was slower this time.Aug 27 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft was hoping to reengage with the government soon." http://ur1.ca/4z3qd #ukraineAug 27 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] decided to freshen up the wallpapers for the !DSP with a bit of a new lookAug 27 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft has noted improved cooperation with the GOT" (Government of #tunis ) http://ur1.ca/4z3r2Aug 27 12:37
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xjasonxMincerR: any ideas why his MEMCPY macro is faster than memcpy()?Aug 27 12:38
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MinceRi haven't even looked at the source of memcpy()Aug 27 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "representatives form the U.S. Embassy, Microsoft.. organized Trainings of Trainers on Microsoft's Unlimited Potential" http://ur1.ca/4z3r6Aug 27 12:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who needs marketers and lobbyists when taxpayers fund them? #microsoft #statedeptAug 27 12:42
schestowitz "Microsoft has noted improved cooperation with the GOT" (Government of #tunis ) http://cablesearch.org/cable/view.php?id=08TUNIS172Aug 27 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's great, isn't it? US taxpayers are forced to give portion of their wage to people who go around the world lobbying for Microsoft profit.Aug 27 12:44
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xjasonxschestowitz: hehAug 27 12:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] just ate tortillas. has been almost 2 years ago. I feel stuffed!Aug 27 12:49
xjasonxouch, my dad lost 20 grand in the past few weeks in the stock marketAug 27 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] HDD of my Laptop has gone nuts. Installed #Kubuntu 11.04 on Samsung 1.5 TiB USB drive. Almost forgot how beautiful the Air Plasma Theme is.Aug 27 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @lohang RT @vvillenave If #copyright infringement *was* theft... then most of us would actually be better off http://ur1.ca/4z3qvAug 27 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] #Kubuntu Natty has become rock solid stable. Alpha and Beta released crashed for no apparent reason. Not the case with the final release.Aug 27 12:54
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DrumScumman, ipv6 is great once you've got your head wrapped around itAug 27 13:03
DrumScumvery much like the large address space and the full routable nature of itAug 27 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Installing a distribution is usually quite a time consuming process for me, since I install a lot of applications, tools and games.Aug 27 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Now I'm also copying all my data to the Samsung 1.5 TiB USB drive, including my entire movie collection. Yes, I have a back up fetish :-)Aug 27 13:09
schestowitzxjasonx: it's like a casinoAug 27 13:17
schestowitzboth places have people in suitsAug 27 13:17
schestowitzand the rules are bent in favour of those who run the placeAug 27 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Funded by Gates, the Seattle Times Anonymously Lobbies for Gates Foundation Agenda http://ur1.ca/4z3wf #billgates #lobbying #educationAug 27 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Funded by Gates, the Seattle Times Anonymously Lobbies for Gates Foundation Agenda http://ur1.ca/4z3wf #gatesfoundation #seattle #astroturfAug 27 13:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: the Armenian Genocide: Letter from the President of Armenia to Turkish PM Erdoga http://t.co/GoxG5WHAug 27 13:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Patent war hits small app developers http://is.gd/8CdrZBAug 27 13:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hey this is getting boring. Stop it Josephine Teo #ORA #fbAug 27 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: VISA, MasterCard, banks fined by EU for cartel behavior - US embassy http://t.co/MG3U3ngAug 27 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Astroturf Alert: “Vibrant Schools Tacoma Coalition” and “Alliance for Education” Lobby for Privatisation (Profit!) http://ur1.ca/4z3ylAug 27 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #Astroturf Alert: “Vibrant Schools Tacoma Coalition” and “Alliance for Education” Funded by Bill Gates http://ur1.ca/4z3yl #gatesfoundationAug 27 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables on #Greece's corrupt media: http://t.co/JEvdvpv http://t.co/f2FkCso http://t.co/JcE0P5gAug 27 13:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables: India share scam - Swiss bank laundry scheme detailed http://t.co/igUKEnF #wlfindAug 27 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables: Blackberry espionage trojan installed by UAE government, developed by US firm http://t.co/iNEFGK2Aug 27 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Amplifying !Techrights http://ur1.ca/4z409Aug 27 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks: VISA, MasterCard, banks fined by EU for cartel behavior - US embassy http://t.co/MG3U3ngAug 27 13:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks: U.S State Dept keeps close tabs on pro-Palestine demonstrations in Australia http://t.co/EABUtIf #wlfindAug 27 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Wikileaks: Mossad agreement: US$30 billion in "security assistance" from 2008-2018 http://t.co/eK4zWWvAug 27 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks: Saudi elite have "refined their methods of control over editors and journalists" http://t.co/Jw1ALyU #wlfindAug 27 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WIKILEAKS RELEASE: 142,978 US embassy cables Bittorrent archive magnet:?xt=urn:btih:EJUD6232Y34VBPYQABXBUG4N3HUJPDHLAug 27 14:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: U.S State Dept keeps close tabs on pro-Palestine demonstrations in Australia http://t.co/EABUtIf #wlfindAug 27 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks: Saudi elite have "refined their methods of control over editors and journalists" http://t.co/Jw ...Aug 27 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks: VISA, MasterCard, banks fined by EU for cartel behavior - US embassy http://t.co/MG3U3ngAug 27 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #Amsterdam Visa Viper Female telephone operator subject of FBI investigation for browsing anti-USG websites http://t.co/0lx7gr5 #wlfindAug 27 14:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Wow! Unity now #14 in the Electronica Chart on #soundclick. Thank you! #ubuntu #canonical #unity #gnu #linux http://ur1.ca/4xlpyAug 27 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables: #Amsterdam Female telephone operator got FBI investigation for browsing anti-USG websites http://t.co/0lx7gr5 #wlfindAug 27 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @nightrose Anyone up for writing #KDE's #GSoC summary for #Google's #OpenSource Blog?Aug 27 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks cables: Political background to Greece's forest fire crisis http://t.co/VoiH16o #wlfindAug 27 14:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] journalistic red lines Blackberry spyware cable shows media fear of intelligence agencies http://t.co/ksduga7 #wlfindAug 27 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Had strange dream: @bkuhn was at some #FLOSS conference performing athletic feats while Dries #Buytaert watchedAug 27 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @schestowitz Amplifying !Techrights http://ur1.ca/4z409Aug 27 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @royhugo Awesome. We need this for other places. http://www.oldsf.org/#Aug 27 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google Sets Will Be Shut Down ⚫ from Google Operating System ⚫ by Alex Chitu http://goo.gl/hqNsmAug 27 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] #Australia: Greg Smith & Maxine McKew keeping US embassy updated with private meetings http://t.co/dXiU1Fv #wlfindAug 27 14:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Saudi elite have refined their methods of control over editors and journalists http://t.co/Jw1ALyU #wlfindAug 27 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] VINTAGE Romanian car for SALE - Dacia 1100 http://tinyurl.com/3j5ardm #romania #dacia #auto #vintage #collector #renault #sale #bucharestAug 27 15:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks: Kenya still paying ghost Anglo leasing Companies | Standard http://t.co/NqPPYMFAug 27 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks press review August 15-24 http://t.co/PUGrnlhAug 27 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kgosztola: US Embassy staff in Belarus accused by state-controlled TV channel of espionage & revolutionary activities http://j.mp/nH ...Aug 27 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Programul Școlii de vară „Informatica la Castel” 2011http://tinyurl.com/3s27yag #software #foss #gnu #linux #romaniaAug 27 16:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kgosztola: Armenia let FBI extra-judicially transfer Armenian suspected of LA gangland murder, asked US to keep secret http://j.mp ...Aug 27 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] There's gonna be a real clash at some point between the UK's oppressive libel laws and social networking … reading http://ur1.ca/4z4ctAug 27 16:02
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iophkAny word on how the Google migration away from Windows has gone during the last year or so?Aug 27 16:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Can I make Windows more like GNU/Linux? http://ur1.ca/4z3doAug 27 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Spotify is Defective by Design http://ur1.ca/4xrs6 #dbd #drmAug 27 16:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz A Windows user’s guide to Linux http://ur1.ca/4z0ki "This is your first step. Linux is not homogeneous like Windows or O ...Aug 27 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kgosztola: For entire US insurance industry, diplomat sought to exploit AIG dispute w/ Bahrain during FTA negotiations http://j.mp/o ...Aug 27 16:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kgosztola: Hong Kong & Macau police have received trainings from basically every US intelligence/law enforcement agency http://j.mp/ ...Aug 27 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @kgosztola: JFK Airport security allegedly mistreated Libyan UN Perm Rep & wife, put in room & subjected to strip searches http://j ...Aug 27 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @GuantanamoAndy: #WikiLeaks and the #Guantanamo Prisoners Released from 2002 to 2004 (Part Ten of Ten) - Includes five Afghan juvenil ...Aug 27 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Happy to see TCB leading. Disappointed that TT is a close 2nd. TT should not win! #sgelectionsAug 27 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] 4 GB micro sdhc Nokia cards at 1.99 € is a nice way to upgrade all my 2 GB ones. For comparison, same make 2moro GB is at 8.99 €Aug 27 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks US spying on Palestine - US Embassy wish list ; comments now enabled http://t.co/V3rvUyGAug 27 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @evan I just pushed StatusNet 1.0.0beta3 for the BSP http://status.net/downloadAug 27 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] rt \o/ @todayonline Tan Cheng Bock's press secretary says 'Tan Cheng Bock is leading all over the island' #sgpresidentAug 27 16:37
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iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/238068/how_linux_mastered_wall_street.htmlAug 27 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UN: No torture in Jamaica - police murder suspects straight away! (US embassy cable) http://t.co/CMRTD7mAug 27 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @robmyers The UNIX way: write the simplest possible tool. The Apache way: write the most complex XML and Java layer cake possible. Th ...Aug 27 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UN: No torture in Jamaica - police murder suspects straight away! (par 13, US embassy cable) http://t.co/CMRTD7mAug 27 16:46
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iophkhttp://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/radiorahim/2011/08/how-patent-abuse-crushes-innovationAug 27 16:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The ultimate crowd sourcing competition: 143,014 secret US diplomatic cables, search, comment and tweet! http://t.co/FWDeoKMAug 27 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[baptistredbloom/@baptistredbloom] ♺ @wikileaks: 143,014 secret US diplomatic cables, search, comment and share! http://is.gd/AVlLdz !wikileaksAug 27 16:59
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pieterchey Guys, about the unitary patent in Europe at the time it was being decided... Just wanted to say: told you so! ;)Aug 27 17:01
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iophkpieterc: link?Aug 27 17:06
pietercOh, last year I came here really upset about the European patent and asked some things about it. Does this channel have logs?Aug 27 17:08
pietercoh, it does! Cool, let me see ;)Aug 27 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Pessoal, posso usar o Aptana Studio pra editar templates Joomla ? Folks, can I use Aptana Studio to edit Joomla templates ?Aug 27 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] For a live streaming of the MSM reporting of the results http://pe.channelnewsasia.com/ . #fb #sgelectionAug 27 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US marine kills Romanian rockstar. President promises to US embassy won't serve a single day in prison http://t.co/E7BBDsvAug 27 17:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US diplomat checked out Cuban internet cafes for censorship: Cubian media perspective http://t.co/u9IZPWFAug 27 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Got through #Irene ok a few days ago. Still in cleanup mode. Those of you still facing her be safe...Aug 27 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] apps that have promise (good idea, nice directon) i try every few releases, regardless of previous experience with them.Aug 27 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] software takes time to mature, and they don't mature without usage and development.Aug 27 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] The former PAP cronies are at Toa Payoh supporting their favourite crony. #fb #sgelectionAug 27 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] huh? CNA reports on following cnalatest? Pwnd! FAIL. #fbAug 27 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] CNA of course would not report of any other tweets. FAIL. #fb #sgelectionAug 27 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Does CNA stand for Clueless News Asia, @cnalatest? #fb #sgelectionsAug 27 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: #China refuses to discuss one child policy, even with 30 million unmarriageable males http://t.co/geBZxRL #wlfindAug 27 17:46
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schestowitz[16:05] <iophk> Any word on how the Google migration away from Windows has gone during the last year or so?Aug 27 17:47
schestowitz80% off windowsAug 27 17:47
schestowitzbrin in juneAug 27 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] why are the CNA presenters, panelists and onsite reports all ladies except for one? Hmm. I wonder, wonder, wonder. #fb #sgelectionAug 27 17:47
schestowitziircAug 27 17:47
iophkAny articles on the progress?  80% is a good s tart.Aug 27 17:47
schestowitznot since juneAug 27 17:49
iophkone would think that they would rub it inAug 27 17:49
iophkfor many, seeing a high profile migration might be the right nudge forwardAug 27 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] only enough beans for one cup of coffee #firstworldproblemAug 27 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] While killing time, can the CNA team interview Patrick Tan about his NS drama? #fb #sgelectionAug 27 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Yay! West Coast giving strong mandate to TCB. I voted in the west! #fb #sgelectionAug 27 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] hah! May Wong got brushed off my TT. CNA carries no weight! #fb #sgelectionAug 27 18:04
schestowitziophk: they sort of didAug 27 18:08
schestowitzalong the wsyAug 27 18:08
schestowitzsooner or  later they'll become the case study IBM wanted to beAug 27 18:09
schestowitzWindowsless enterpriseAug 27 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] rt @fakeRaffles Hmmm..hopefully we get a holiday if TCB wins since he's a Rafflesian :) #GreenBlackWhite #SgEdu #SgPresidentAug 27 18:09
iophkhas IBM published results yet — something along the lines of Ernie Ball?Aug 27 18:09
schestowitza few years ag zdnet said ibm used 6% linuxAug 27 18:11
schestowitziircAug 27 18:11
schestowitzdesktop that is...Aug 27 18:11
schestowitzin google, non-engs sometimes use macsAug 27 18:11
schestowitzsorry for lowercaseAug 27 18:12
schestowitzone-hand typingAug 27 18:12
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/81799935 http://identi.ca/conversation/79130079#notice-81799935Aug 27 18:13
TechrightsBot-tr@Srinivas V (srini)'s status on Saturday, 27-Aug-11 15:08:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz thats exactly what I have been commenting on Mark's blog consistently and been flamedAug 27 18:13
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schestowitz"Unity seems to have been created for reasons similar to Microsoft's Ribbon: ownership (patents/(c)), "ease of use" nonsense, annoying users"Aug 27 18:13
iophkIMHO, Unity is ok.  Not great, just OK.Aug 27 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @Alvinologist: #sgpresident ultimate winner is PEC. By letting TJS qualify to run, TT & TCB close fight. if only 3, believe TT wld lose.Aug 27 18:14
schestowitzjust got "VINTAGE Romanian car for SALE - Dacia 1100 http://tinyurl.com/3j5ardm #romania #dacia #auto #vintage #collector #renault #sale #bucharest"Aug 27 18:14
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schestowitziophk: I wanted to try itAug 27 18:14
schestowitzdidn't get a chance.. not yetAug 27 18:14
iophkIt needs a little work still but is nice and cleanAug 27 18:15
iophksimpleAug 27 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I am wondering if the PAP is now planning to sue TJS for telling the truth about ISA being used against political opponents. #fb #sgelectionAug 27 18:16
schestowitznext time it'll be better it seems...Aug 27 18:17
schestowitzThey rushed it out the doorAug 27 18:17
schestowitzAnd debugged all nightAug 27 18:17
iophkIt's worth looking atAug 27 18:26
iophkhttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/08/join-us-patent-trolls-and-you-eff-virtual-bootAug 27 18:32
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schestowitzyes, I saw thatAug 27 18:33
iophkexcellentAug 27 18:33
schestowitzDidn't manage to blog it though I plannedAug 27 18:33
schestowitzI forgot to take the PDA to the gymAug 27 18:34
schestowitzI planned to do my posts there, but forgot the key thingAug 27 18:34
schestowitzended up chatting with friends thereAug 27 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] rt @sgnetter Let's trend this worldwide RT @dk: Come on, Let's trend this on Twitter #AnyoneButTonyTan #sgpresident #fbAug 27 18:34
schestowitzAnd sauna for an hour..Aug 27 18:34
schestowitzOne friend of mine has former colleagues (rugby players) who want to create sites for themselvesAug 27 18:34
schestowitzMonday I'll find out if I can get into some of these contractsAug 27 18:35
schestowitzjust spoke to him on the phone 5 minds agoAug 27 18:35
schestowitz*minsAug 27 18:35
schestowitzI really ought to get back into good posting pace in techrighs thoughAug 27 18:35
iophkIt take a while to come back from holidaysAug 27 18:36
schestowitznews has been slowAug 27 18:44
schestowitzI caught up this mornign with just about everythingAug 27 18:44
schestowitzSo then I turned to wikileaksAug 27 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] http://coffee.jezra.net/coffee/20110827 #sip_and_clickAug 27 18:44
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schestowitzAnd caught up a bit with Gates' scamsAug 27 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @stav OK, !tinap blokes. What's the story? Are we ever going to get an episode 8 or do we have to keep !listening to @rpcutts over an ...Aug 27 18:47
iophkThat was a good catch about the US State Dept fighting FOSS in the EastAug 27 18:48
iophkTragicAug 27 18:48
iophkhttp://techrights.org/2011/08/27/state-controlled-by-companies/Aug 27 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] thank you @theru!Aug 27 18:49
schestowitzit was rather predictableAug 27 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] magic number - 5504 <- # of overseas voters. #fb #sgelectionsAug 27 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] This State Dept. cable says that Saudi King Abdullah himself issues directives to Saudi media outlets http://t.co/rAF1aT8Aug 27 18:56
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schestowitzLikethe IPCC r whatever it was...Aug 27 18:56
schestowitzBut it's good to have some classified evidenceAug 27 18:56
iophkEvidence is good alwaysAug 27 18:56
schestowitzyesAug 27 18:56
schestowitzLike "vendor commends Vista" being an ad.Aug 27 18:56
schestowitzSHuts up people who use labels like "conpiracy theory"Aug 27 18:57
iophkcollusion or malfeasance != conspiracyAug 27 18:57
schestowitzit's justa  loaded termAug 27 18:58
schestowitzthe theory is key partAug 27 18:58
schestowitzoit's no longer a theoryAug 27 18:58
schestowitzwhen you have evidenceAug 27 18:58
schestowitzJust a proven illegal cinporacyAug 27 18:58
schestowitz*conspiracyAug 27 18:58
iophkagain evidence is goodAug 27 18:58
schestowitzThe hypothesis is proven to be trueAug 27 18:58
iophkthe hard part is tracking all the evidenceAug 27 18:58
iophkand bringing up old evidence when old disinformation resurfacesAug 27 18:59
iophkevery 18 months or soAug 27 18:59
iophktechrights site does a good job of pulling the old data forwardAug 27 18:59
schestowitzwith corss-refsAug 27 19:00
schestowitzSome people use those to ridicule the siteAug 27 19:00
iophkbecause they workAug 27 19:00
schestowitzAs though choosing to link to something rather than rpeat old facts is eomehow badAug 27 19:00
iophkcross refs are effectiveAug 27 19:00
schestowitzIt keeps the reporting tighterAug 27 19:00
schestowitzNewspapers can't do thatAug 27 19:00
schestowitzPeople get the newsAug 27 19:00
iophkwithout a link, it loses its authorityAug 27 19:00
schestowitzAnd to get contect they may lack they can click some stuff, opening in tabvs the missing infoAug 27 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Apple, es reicht" - http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/gadgets/0,1518,781811,00.htmlAug 27 19:01
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schestowitztodsy I didn't need to repeat the cable about VietnamAug 27 19:01
schestowitzIt was covered beforAug 27 19:01
schestowitzAnd those who did not see it can see Clinton personally involved tooAug 27 19:01
schestowitzThus the imageAug 27 19:01
iophkClinton is very effective, too bad she's not pushing or at least neutral on  FOSSAug 27 19:02
iophkFOSS == Pro USAug 27 19:06
iophkor any other country for that matterAug 27 19:06
schestowitziirc, clinton's web site is aspxAug 27 19:07
schestowitzLinux is developed in the USAug 27 19:07
schestowitzPortland to be preciseAug 27 19:07
schestowitzMicrosoft is made in India, China, other placesAug 27 19:07
schestowitzThe managers live in Kirkland areaAug 27 19:08
schestowitzApple has very few employeesAug 27 19:08
schestowitzShop keepersAug 27 19:08
schestowitzThey contract Asian forms to actually make their stuff and stick Apple logos on itAug 27 19:09
schestowitzApple counts the cash in the USAug 27 19:09
schestowitz57th floorAug 27 19:09
schestowitzIIRC 17bn from iPhone in one year... say 100 million at $333Aug 27 19:09
schestowitzassuming they take like 50%Aug 27 19:09
schestowitzGoogle has some tablets going for $199 nowAug 27 19:10
schestowitzI posted a linkAug 27 19:10
schestowitzApple is not an Amrican companyAug 27 19:10
schestowitzIt's just a labelAug 27 19:10
schestowitzLike k-swissAug 27 19:10
iophkIt's againAug 27 19:10
schestowitzmade in China, marketed as "made in Cali"Aug 27 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Wertschöpfungskreislauf, Freiheitsberaubung und Datensaugen sind bei Apple längst eins." - http://www.spiegel.de/net... http://b1t.it/ynfAug 27 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Perhaps CNA should run a "Origins of Curry" documentary in the meantime. #fb #sgelectionAug 27 19:14
iophk$199 might be the right price point for tabletsAug 27 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] How can enlistees pledge allegiance to a "Prez Tony Tan" if his own son was able to manipulate the stint? #fb #sgelectionAug 27 19:19
schestowitzto pressure APpleAug 27 19:19
schestowitzRemember when he leftAug 27 19:20
schestowitzSame day as EU decisionAug 27 19:20
schestowitzSamsung has 7 weeks to make changes and avoid all bansAug 27 19:20
iophkGood timingAug 27 19:20
schestowitzSo Apple lost pretty muchAug 27 19:20
iophk7 weeks for only one model.Aug 27 19:20
iophkthe other models are not affectedAug 27 19:20
schestowitzAnd in the sauna someone said he read about Apple's CEO leaving as sign of Apple's coming fallAug 27 19:20
schestowitzGates left before Vista, he acnnouned it at that time anywayAug 27 19:20
schestowitzHe knew vista would bombAug 27 19:20
iophkI would prefer they stop the patent nonsense rather than fallAug 27 19:21
schestowitzthen he left officially, sort ofAug 27 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] IF TT becomes prez, sets bad omen. 2nd DPM to become prez. Next time it could be Wong "Mas Salamat" Kan Seng :-( #fb #sgelectionAug 27 19:21
schestowitzTo start nw moonpoliesAug 27 19:21
schestowitz!google youtube gates says vista suvcksAug 27 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Bill Gates says "Vista Sucks" - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dp6qIETRCxbwAug 27 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Bill Gates said Microsoft Vista Sucks?? - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D3a2zqRc1jvsAug 27 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Bill Gates says Youtube SUCKS You Tube YOU SUCK ! is my life ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DxcmWvy2JvvMAug 27 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Why Windows Vista Sucks | http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/why-vista-sucks/Aug 27 19:21
iophkthey've made some good with OS X and naively I would like to see it continuedAug 27 19:21
schestowitzNow I can dedicate less time to fighting Microsoft and Novell (doesn't exist anymore)Aug 27 19:21
schestowitzyesterday I was granted access to the data files and functions I needed access to. For people who are interested in WordPress skills, I have 7 years of experience and 6 WordPress sites. I was an active part of the development community for a few years and still have few responsibilities there.Aug 27 19:22
MinceRcrApple is dyingAug 27 19:22
MinceRand it's a good thing, of courseAug 27 19:22
schestowitznot yetAug 27 19:22
schestowitzThey're still powerfulAug 27 19:22
schestowitzBecause of the brandAug 27 19:22
MinceRthe person they've built the cult around left the companyAug 27 19:22
schestowitzthe brand value is aid to be half the worth of the companyAug 27 19:22
MinceRlast time this happened, they became marginalAug 27 19:22
schestowitzAnd they've just lost a major brandAug 27 19:22
iophkApple is in a position to do a lot of good - if they go back towards being more open like they were before Jobs got sick.Aug 27 19:22
schestowitz"jobs"Aug 27 19:22
MinceRall the apple stories are about how jobs is everything to themAug 27 19:23
iophkHe probably is everything to themAug 27 19:23
MinceRall they think about is what jobs would want and what would not make jobs scream their heads offAug 27 19:23
MinceRthey're headless nowAug 27 19:23
schestowitzThey have k00k as CEOAug 27 19:23
iophkI hope he's not responsible for the patent shenanigansAug 27 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Hangover II, Final Destination 5: will the summer of sequels never end? http://gu.com/p/3xe3n - is THIS is the "creative output"? #MPAAAug 27 19:24
MinceRiophk: they never did anything good in that position, though. what makes you think that would ever change?Aug 27 19:24
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schestowitziophk: I think he isAug 27 19:24
schestowitzAnd I'll show you whyAug 27 19:24
schestowitz!google palm webos cook threatAug 27 19:25
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TechrightsBot-tr[2] - HP to Acquire Palm in $1.2 Billion Deal - Mac Rumors | http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/28/hp-to-acquire-palm-in-1-2-billion-deal/Aug 27 19:25
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Palm Brushes-Off Apple's iPhone Patent, Says it Can Defend Itself ... | http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/kit-eaton/technomix/palm-brushes-apples-iphone-patent-says-it-can-defend-itselfAug 27 19:25
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 10 must-have free Palm webOS apps - Computerworld | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9171378/10_must_have_free_Palm_webOS_appsAug 27 19:25
iophkApple could go down if it gets too deep into patent litigation and lets innovation slideAug 27 19:25
schestowitzit's him who amde that remarkAug 27 19:25
MinceRapple hardly ever did any innovation outside marketingAug 27 19:25
schestowitzIn some post-results call IIRCAug 27 19:25
schestowitzSaying they would see Palm if they succeedAug 27 19:25
schestowitzLater they did that to Google's partnersAug 27 19:25
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schestowitzDespite the utter whitewash from Daniel Eran and other key cultistsAug 27 19:25
iophkMinceR: Darwin was very good.Aug 27 19:25
schestowitzWho tried to pretend APple would never resort to patent  abuseAug 27 19:26
MinceRhardlyAug 27 19:26
MinceRit was a pointless hybrid kernel which was also slowAug 27 19:26
schestowitzspple's legal head was fired or left recentlyAug 27 19:26
iophkPatent abuse threatens to take overAug 27 19:26
MinceRfreebsd crudely bolted on top of machAug 27 19:26
schestowitzMeaning he was apparently not pleased with what had gone onAug 27 19:26
iophkyes, freebsd on machAug 27 19:26
MinceRjust so that the marketing drones and fanboys can claim it's a microkernel (even though it's not)Aug 27 19:26
iophkbut on a mainstream brandAug 27 19:26
MinceRwell, you can see how much good that mainstream brand did to free softwareAug 27 19:27
iophkroy: why did the legal head leave?Aug 27 19:27
MinceRsupport for software patent schemes, lots of FUD, bullying and lawsuitsAug 27 19:27
iophkit was doing good for a few years, it's just that the last few have been badAug 27 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @expatpaul: @thistleweb The creativity is in the accounting #MPAAAug 27 19:27
schestowitziophk: it never said where I read about itAug 27 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] What we need is a run-off election between the top two if the margin is less than 10%. Current scheme stupid. #fb #sgelectionAug 27 19:29
schestowitzonly that he leftAug 27 19:29
schestowitzabout a month and a half agoAug 27 19:29
iophkokAug 27 19:29
iophkthere could be something thereAug 27 19:29
schestowitzmaybe worth looking into, researching for answers or clues at leastAug 27 19:30
iophkthe move towards patent litigation may have not set well with himAug 27 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Copyright Infringement and Theft – The Difference" - http://torrentfreak.com/copyright-infringement-and-theft-%E2%80... http://b1t.it/ynuAug 27 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #iloveubuntu: !Gwibber 3.1.6 released with rounded corners for avatars and thumbnails, performance improvements and more http://goo.gl/Eo826Aug 27 19:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #iloveubuntu: "Alt+Tab"-ing gets preview for minimized windows and new shortcuts in !Ubuntu #Oneiric http://goo.gl/0wBNI !unityAug 27 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #iloveubuntu: !Ubuntu Software Center released with completely new redesigned GTK+3 UI http://goo.gl/VbuHBAug 27 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #iloveubuntu: New design and features for !Ubuntu !Oneiric's indicators http://goo.gl/VbuHBAug 27 19:52
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schestowitz[19:30] <iophk> the move towards patent litigation may have not set well with himAug 27 19:53
schestowitzk00k?Aug 27 19:53
schestowitzLike I said, it was him who was fist (AFAIK) to suggest suing things that like like iPhoneAug 27 19:53
schestowitzHe was COO as I understand it at the time (around 2009)Aug 27 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Launchpad news: Matthew Revell is the new Launchpad Product Manager http://goo.gl/UeCBTAug 27 19:56
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iophkso the current mess may be his fault?Aug 27 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Full Circle magazine #52 is out! http://goo.gl/D0bBp !uAug 27 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @mohanpram A Look Through Fedora 16 Alpha http://bit.ly/nHQcUi !fedoraAug 27 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @kondziu Behold Hamstur, Eater of Worlds. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4405730/DSCN2646.JPGAug 27 19:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 103 dents!Aug 27 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Just as I respect the office of the PM not the person, I'll do the same for the Office of the President not the person. #fb #sgelectionAug 27 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] P-III autopsy http://www.sciencystuff.com/?p=24Aug 27 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] AT&T Now Charging You For Not Using Enough Long Distance http://is.gd/qNJJQF #wtfAug 27 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] whatever happened to the #FreeAsInNode #Audiocast? #FreenodeAug 27 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @Politicoptimist: Of all, only Tan Cheng Bock's campaign team & supporters consists of PAP & Opposition members. #SGPresident #fbAug 27 21:09
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/08/26/visit-to-walmart-whats-on-shelves/Aug 27 21:14
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schestowitz"Assuming Walmart stocks its shelves according to what sells, Linux as Android is doing well. A clerk with whom I spoke said Android is doing very well. "Aug 27 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Is the world's connectivity leading to wild hype-swings, such as the calls to assassinate Assange, and now, hurricane Irene?Aug 27 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Back on track. Finally fixed my MythTV box and queued a few recordings. 1.8TB to fill! ;-)Aug 27 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Hurricane Irene has been downgraded to a level 1 storm for the New York area.Aug 27 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] That's it. It's President Tony Tan. Congratulations. #fb #sgelectionsAug 27 21:26
schestowitzwhat's the swpats situation like in scandinavia?Aug 27 21:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] OK, President-elect Tony Tan, please come clean about Patrick Tan's NS magic. #fb #sgelectionAug 27 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Catching up with work email and projects.Aug 27 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Am sure that the PAP-cabal is happy with this result. #fb #sgelectionAug 27 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It looks like Apple is planning to buy off all the Jailbreakers http://goo.gl/ePZ2YAug 27 21:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Hype free weather forecasts on hurricane Irene from the NOAA http://t.co/UUITOVbAug 27 21:46
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schestowitzhi, _GoblinAug 27 21:52
_Goblinhi mateAug 27 21:52
schestowitzhow are things?Aug 27 21:57
_Goblinyeah good...Aug 27 21:57
_Goblinseen Ive missed out on some action here....Aug 27 21:57
schestowitzwhich one? :-)Aug 27 21:58
_GoblinI read a cryptic post, so I assume you've had issuesAug 27 21:58
_Goblinthe latest techrights articleAug 27 21:58
schestowitz:-)Aug 27 21:58
schestowitzno issues reallyAug 27 21:58
_GoblinahAug 27 21:59
_Goblinschestowitz:  I am away for two days (FYI) ....may not have time to come back on until tuesdayAug 27 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Want a Faster Firefox? Pale Moon 6.0 Can Help http://tinyurl.com/3nbqn94 #opensourceAug 27 22:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlfind: US worries about press safety/freedom in Democratic Republic of Congo http://t.co/39EiS47 #wlfind via @TomWatson #DRCAug 27 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlfind: #Humantrafficking from #Mozambique to #SouthAfrica - #sexualexploitation, #forcedlabour ... http://t.co/yVUT076 #wlfind via ...Aug 27 22:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlfind: After #cocaine plane bust, #SierraLeone min. said foreign security agencies spy 4 drug runners http://t.co/CkkVZZa #wlfind ...Aug 27 22:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlfind: US lobbied legislators to protect interests of US pharmaceutical firms in #Phillipines http://t.co/7tMaHdO #wlfind via @Nato ...Aug 27 22:21
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schestowitz_Goblin: oh, that's s shame..Aug 27 22:28
DrumScum22:57 <@_Goblin> I read a cryptic post, so I assume you've had issuesAug 27 22:32
DrumScumwhat madness that isAug 27 22:32
DrumScumthis site by snit i meanAug 27 22:33
DrumScumnot that i always agree with what you write (why would i), but we're clearly dealing with one obsessed guy here...Aug 27 22:34
schestowitzyesAug 27 22:35
schestowitzhe went very obsessive-compulsive after he invited himself to the showAug 27 22:35
schestowitzhe'd never reply to me in COLA, not he's just trolling everything I write even though he knows he's blacklisted by meAug 27 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Britain enacts blanket ban on protests | PressTV http://t.co/t9QD9zCAug 27 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if Paul #Lambert has an assistant called Mr #Butler do they get into trouble for cigarette advertising on mainstream sports TV? !footballAug 27 22:37
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sebsebsebhi _GoblinAug 27 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @SufficiencyMAF: @wlfind #Uganda 's All-you-can-eat corruption buffet http://t.co/3VwxFOK #wlfindAug 27 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @SufficiencyMAF: @wlfind #China World Bank Official The signs of an asset bubble are there para 3 http://t.co/iY8gUSk #wlfindAug 27 22:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: 12 Things New in !Ubuntu 11.10 #Oneric - Screenshot Tour http://goo.gl/NvWT3Aug 27 22:54
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schestowitzinteresting wikileaks stuffAug 27 22:56
schestowitzlike China on the economyAug 27 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @SufficiencyMAF: @wikileaks 2009 #China officials knew dairy was still selling #Melamine tainted milk, covered it up for a year http: ...Aug 27 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Saurez is looking like a damn fine acquisition for #Liverpool !footballAug 27 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @didiermisson: All these crimes deemed less serious than the sharing of culture #partage goo.gl/AbNLj #hadopiAug 27 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @SufficiencyMAF: @wikileaks Niger embassy suspicious powder incident with classified pouches http://t.co/5REttl4 #wlfindAug 27 23:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] methinks #Suarez is gonna be the difference between dropping points & not over quite a few games this season, either scoring or assistingAug 27 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @SufficiencyMAF: @wlfind #Saudi launches copyright show trials after being placed on #US IP watchlist http://t.co/J7xwqAn #wlfindAug 27 23:06
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_Goblinhi sebsebseb sorry...I was catching up with Dr WhoAug 27 23:09
DrumScum23:34 < schestowitz> he went very obsessive-compulsive after he invited himself to the showAug 27 23:10
DrumScumare you guys really going to have him on it again?Aug 27 23:10
_GoblinDrumScum: as far as Im concerned....of course.Aug 27 23:14
_GoblinDrumScum: I wont censor anyone's povAug 27 23:14
_Goblinits no good claiming to believe in freedom of expression if you silence those who may have differing opinions....  Aug 27 23:15
MinceRthey have their own outlets to publish their opinionsAug 27 23:16
_Goblinvery true....but then we offer a platform for expression so its only right we have responsibility for freedom of expression on it.Aug 27 23:17
_Goblincertainly thats my opinion....I can't speak for roy since he's not here.Aug 27 23:17
_GoblinI think people are very able to make their own minds up on who is right or wrong....let those people be the judge.......personally I don't care what guests say....their judge will not be me nor Roy, it will be the people who listen.  That may favour any one of us, but its not my place to stop people expressing themselves when I am providing an outlet for expression.Aug 27 23:19
MinceRit could become an outlet for noiseAug 27 23:23
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_Goblinsorry afkAug 27 23:36
DrumScumMinceR: exactly, it's just a bunch of noiseAug 27 23:36
DrumScumand this glasser guy is spewing enougAug 27 23:36
DrumScumh noise as it isAug 27 23:37
_Goblinyes I agree and I think a balance has to be made....in saying that though, having a guest who may have distinctly opposing views is a rare occurance...Aug 27 23:37
_Goblinwhen I say agree (for clarity) I don't mean Michael creating noise...thats up to others to decide on not me...Aug 27 23:37
DrumScumi don't mind distinct and opposing viewsAug 27 23:37
DrumScumbut i do mind trollingAug 27 23:38
_Goblinif Michael comes on and destroys the arguments put to him - thats fine.  If Michael comes on and doesn't, thats fine too.  At the end of the day, I would assume there will be people who agree with both sides...Aug 27 23:38
DrumScumand that's all glasser's interested inAug 27 23:38
_Goblinbut then can you honestly say that last time he was on the show he trolled?Aug 27 23:39
_Goblinand if he didn't then shall people not wait and see how he conducts the second outing before making a decision?Aug 27 23:39
DrumScumno, the show was fineAug 27 23:39
DrumScumi have to admid thatAug 27 23:40
_Goblinif, as you say he comes on and trolls, makes noise....then he will defeat his own position.  If he comes on and puts forward his points and arguments well then that will benefit him..Aug 27 23:40
DrumScumheyAug 27 23:41
_Goblinand I don't care either way....I merely want to give the opportunity for everyone to put their points across.Aug 27 23:41
DrumScumit's your show ;-)Aug 27 23:41
_Goblin:)Aug 27 23:41
_Goblinbut I appreciate your opinion and would not seek to silence it....Aug 27 23:42
_Goblinif you want to say "Tim you are being a tit by letting him on" please say so...I won't be offended at all.....as I say, I fully support freedom of speech..Aug 27 23:42
DrumScumin any case, if you have him on again, i'll listen to it again ;-)Aug 27 23:42
_Goblinthats the idea!Aug 27 23:43
_Goblinyou never know, you may agree with Snit.Aug 27 23:43
DrumScumas i've been doing to most of the recent onesAug 27 23:43
MinceRi don't mind well-reasoned opposing viewsAug 27 23:43
cubezzzbut not FOSS bashingAug 27 23:43
_Goblinand the people who listen are the judge....you are the ones that make the decision.Aug 27 23:43
MinceRi just haven't ever seen any :>Aug 27 23:44
DrumScumheheAug 27 23:44
DrumScumwell, i doAug 27 23:44
DrumScumdid, i meanAug 27 23:44
_Goblinwhat bash foss or listen? or both? ;)Aug 27 23:44
DrumScumno, i mean i have seen glasser make ok pointsAug 27 23:45
DrumScumwell reasoned and allAug 27 23:45
_GoblinI'm quite happy to bash bad foss.... I don't support foss because its foss, I support it because its better software.Aug 27 23:45
DrumScumhahAug 27 23:45
DrumScumi bash foss all the time :-pAug 27 23:45
_GoblinI bash Facebook users....and Mark ZuckerbergAug 27 23:46
_Goblinoh and the copyright parasitesAug 27 23:46
DrumScumi bash bashAug 27 23:46
_Goblinlol....Aug 27 23:46
DrumScumas tcsh is way better :-pAug 27 23:46
_Goblinoh and I bash KDEAug 27 23:46
cubezzzreallyAug 27 23:47
DrumScumpuhAug 27 23:47
_Goblinwell bash is strongAug 27 23:47
DrumScumKDE is fineAug 27 23:47
_GoblinI just have openly said my distaste for it.Aug 27 23:47
cubezzzis there anything you don't bash?Aug 27 23:47
DrumScumbloated, but fineAug 27 23:47
_Goblinoh and I bash Cliff Richard fans.Aug 27 23:48
DrumScumpuhAug 27 23:48
DrumScumcliff rocksAug 27 23:48
_Goblinand Gnome-shell advocates.....Aug 27 23:48
MinceRi find bash to be vastly superior to tcsh :>Aug 27 23:48
_Goblinnot sure which is worseAug 27 23:48
DrumScumbash superior to tcsh?Aug 27 23:48
cubezzzKDE is fine, you have the source, change it if you don't like itAug 27 23:48
DrumScumbwahahaAug 27 23:49
cubezzzdon't understand why you bash KDEAug 27 23:49
MinceRtcsh still has many of the parser weaknesses of cshAug 27 23:49
DrumScumin scripting you mean?Aug 27 23:49
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MinceRand it doesn't let you specify an environment variable for a command you run ("DISPLAY=:0.1 whatever")Aug 27 23:49
MinceRyes, in scriptingAug 27 23:49
_GoblinCubezzz: Ive never liked that argument..... I don't know about anyone else but I choose software on what it good for me, not what I can make it if I fiddle with the source....firstly I don't have the time and secondly there are alternatives that already meet my needs.Aug 27 23:50
DrumScumonly idiots script in tcshAug 27 23:50
MinceRlolAug 27 23:50
DrumScumscripting is done properly /bin/sh compliantAug 27 23:50
DrumScumportability and all that jazzAug 27 23:50
MinceRwell, i know at least one company that does script in cshAug 27 23:50
cubezzz_Goblin, uh huhAug 27 23:50
DrumScumMinceR: what one?Aug 27 23:51
MinceRcan't tellAug 27 23:51
_Goblincubezzz: For me that argument is akin to creating a Jaguar emulator that doesn't work.....when people complain I turn around and say "well you have the src make it yourself".....I think the basic expectation is that software is fit for purpose for you, not "you can't say that because you can mod the src yourself if you don't like it"Aug 27 23:51
cubezzz_Goblin, still not getting why you _bash_ KDEAug 27 23:52
Diablo-D3well theres a small problemAug 27 23:52
_Goblinah.....Aug 27 23:52
cubezzzwhy not just not use it then?Aug 27 23:52
Diablo-D3you _cant_ fix KDEAug 27 23:52
_GoblinlolAug 27 23:52
Diablo-D3many people have triedAug 27 23:52
Diablo-D3KDE keeps rejecting patchesAug 27 23:52
_Goblinmany people think it doesn't need fixes....I know many happy end users.Aug 27 23:52
Diablo-D3and/or dumping the code for something brand new and even shittier ala KDE3->4Aug 27 23:52
Diablo-D3KDE's problem isnt codeAug 27 23:52
_Goblinit all comes down to personal preference and fit for purpose.Aug 27 23:53
cubezzzthat's why I'm still on >= 3.5.10Aug 27 23:53
Diablo-D3its the developers running it.Aug 27 23:53
DrumScumcubezzz: i'm running 3.5.10 on my second X session right nowAug 27 23:53
ThistleWindjust when you think KDE is complete in it;s transformation from 3.5 to 4.x they announce another sweeping change with the move to 5.xAug 27 23:53
MinceRgnAug 27 23:53
DrumScumsuch a sweet desktop :-)Aug 27 23:53
cubezzzI don't bash mwm, see what I'm getting at?Aug 27 23:53
_GoblingnAug 27 23:54
cubezzzI just use other window managersAug 27 23:54
_Goblinanyway, KDE or not....nobody has managed to justify a Cliff Richard fan....with or without src included.Aug 27 23:54
Diablo-D3ThistleWind: they already announced it actuallyAug 27 23:54
cubezzzKDE 4 is too fat... but I don't use itAug 27 23:54
Diablo-D35.x is another 4.x scale failureAug 27 23:54
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cubezzzok, I retro-fitted new KDE to fc1, I didn't really make any code changesAug 27 23:56
cubezzzbut I couldn't even do that if it wasn't FOSSAug 27 23:56
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cubezzzif I could find something that could do everything KDE 3.5.10 does but it was lighter, I'd switch to thatAug 27 23:57
cubezzze.g. if there was a kweatherservice for icewm or xfce Aug 27 23:58
ThistleWindkde went in a direction that lost them a lot of users, then even more by the fact that it wasn't really feature complete until about 4.6Aug 27 23:59
ThistleWindjust when they finally have a really good product, what do they do? build on it? no......all change with kde5 with a whoile lot of new under the hood changesAug 27 23:59
MinceRhttp://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/Aug 27 23:59
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