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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/82880600 | Sep 06 16:57 |
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| TechrightsBot | @agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 06-Sep-11 14:04:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I guess Meego is the one shot for Intel, if it wants to have a strong presence in the Arm's niche. | Sep 06 16:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/explodingwalrus/status/111079920607838208 | Sep 06 16:58 |
| TechrightsBot | @explodingwalrus: @schestowitz I thought there was a compiz plugin to do that ages ago? | Sep 06 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Canonical 'owns' key compiz development now | Sep 06 16:58 |
| MinceR | they can't do much harm there anyway, can they? | Sep 06 16:59 |
| MinceR | i mean compiz is even less stable than kde4 | Sep 06 17:00 |
| schestowitz | I haven't use compiz for ages | Sep 06 17:00 |
| MinceR | neither have i | Sep 06 17:03 |
| schestowitz | I used it in Mandriva 2008.1 | Sep 06 17:04 |
| MinceR | after using realtime zoom on a dualhead setup resulted in the pointer getting stuck, i gave up on compiz | Sep 06 17:04 |
| schestowitz | on KDE | Sep 06 17:04 |
| schestowitz | It wasn't *very* stable | Sep 06 17:04 |
| schestowitz | But it looked great | Sep 06 17:04 |
| ender_2600 | 12:51 <@MinceR> i mean compiz is even less stable than kde4 | Sep 06 17:06 |
| ender_2600 | ha | Sep 06 17:06 |
| schestowitz | kde4 is stable | Sep 06 17:06 |
| schestowitz | plasma-desktop maybe crahses a few times a year | Sep 06 17:07 |
| ender_2600 | everything on mincer's computer (which he has distaste in) crashes | Sep 06 17:07 |
| schestowitz | kwin never crashes for me | Sep 06 17:07 |
| MinceR | sure. it's only kwin, plasma-desktop, krunner and kxkb that need a manual restart from time to time | Sep 06 17:07 |
| MinceR | and plasma-desktop also needs reconfiguration, since it likes to forget panel settings | Sep 06 17:07 |
| schestowitz | depends | Sep 06 17:07 |
| schestowitz | plasma-desktop no longer has leaks | Sep 06 17:07 |
| schestowitz | BUt... | Sep 06 17:07 |
| ender_2600 | get a computer that works | Sep 06 17:07 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't get restarted much | Sep 06 17:07 |
| MinceR | ender_2600 never connects/disconnects extra monitors | Sep 06 17:08 |
| MinceR | ender_2600 never turns 3d compositing on/off | Sep 06 17:08 |
| schestowitz | So after months using it with a lot of applications moving RAM out of the way it get get heavily swpaped | Sep 06 17:08 |
| ender_2600 | I do all the time | Sep 06 17:08 |
| ender_2600 | 3d effects is a check box in system-settings | Sep 06 17:08 |
| MinceR | it's also alt+shift+f12 | Sep 06 17:08 |
| schestowitz | 3d makes many things faster | Sep 06 17:08 |
| schestowitz | at least with nvidia drivers | Sep 06 17:08 |
| schestowitz | It sort of texturiss some apps | Sep 06 17:08 |
| MinceR | that helps avoid some of the bugs that are triggered by adding/removing monitors | Sep 06 17:09 |
| schestowitz | texturises | Sep 06 17:09 |
| schestowitz | ANd then you don't need to redraw apps, not even over SSH, when you move around | Sep 06 17:09 |
| schestowitz | with kwin+composite off it's slow and annoying to get work done | Sep 06 17:09 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i suspect you can do that even with just forcing all windows to use SaveUnder | Sep 06 17:09 |
| MinceR | oops | Sep 06 17:09 |
| MinceR | BackingStore or what it's called | Sep 06 17:10 |
| MinceR | iirc fvwm could force that setting | Sep 06 17:10 |
| schestowitz | never tried it | Sep 06 17:10 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if i tried it, but i think i've heard of it from someone who knows x internals better than i do | Sep 06 17:10 |
| MinceR | (former coworker) | Sep 06 17:10 |
| schestowitz | x internals | Sep 06 17:11 |
| schestowitz | "Excuse me, waiter, I'd like to have some X internals" | Sep 06 17:11 |
| schestowitz | "with cogwheels?" | Sep 06 17:11 |
| MinceR | your x has cogwheels? must be an ancient version :> | Sep 06 17:12 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/wikileaks-sep-6-2011-1616 | Sep 06 17:16 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Wikileaks - Sep 6, 2011 - 16:16 | Al Jazeera Blogs .::. Size~: 37.21 KB | Sep 06 17:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/111067716223373312 | Sep 06 17:17 |
| TechrightsBot | @wikileaks: Azerbaijan attacks WikiLeaks, "lies" about government corruption | al Jazeera http://t.co/d7y5PvK | Sep 06 17:17 |
| TechrightsBot | @: | Sep 06 17:17 |
| ender_2600 | im including google-droid-sans-fonts | Sep 06 18:49 |
| ender_2600 | google-droid-sans-mono-fonts | Sep 06 18:49 |
| ender_2600 | google-droid-serif-fonts | Sep 06 18:49 |
| ender_2600 | wicked fonts | Sep 06 18:52 |
| MinceR | sever the wicked | Sep 06 19:05 |
| schestowitz | WeKid, we kid.. | Sep 06 19:06 |
| ender_2600 | best fonts since mscorefonts | Sep 06 19:22 |
| MinceR | nice | Sep 06 19:40 |
| MinceR | i wonder if i'll want to replace ZapfElliptical711, Charter/Charis, Vera/DejaVu Sans and Vera/DejaVu Sans Mono with them | Sep 06 19:40 |
| MinceR | maybe a modified Droid Sans Mono with slashed zero | Sep 06 19:43 |
| ender_2600 | I really dislike Vera | Sep 06 19:48 |
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