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| MinceR | DDG has their own bot, too | Sep 09 06:31 |
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| MinceR | also, DDG, startpage and scroogle all support HTTPS | Sep 09 06:31 |
| MinceR | the first two also choose HTTPS links for stuff like wikipedia :> | Sep 09 06:32 |
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| ender_2600 | schestowitz - regarding HTTPS and efforts like HTTPSEverywhere | Sep 09 21:27 |
| ender_2600 | schestowitz - I think you should give these more coverage, your readers would benefit | Sep 09 21:27 |
| ender_2600 | people should be using as much encryption as they can on the net | Sep 09 21:27 |
| ender_2600 | even just for reading | Sep 09 21:28 |
| MinceR | agreed | Sep 09 21:31 |
| schestowitz | yeah, someone said we should use https for TR | Sep 09 21:40 |
| schestowitz | But then there's lots of complication, not just cert-related | Sep 09 21:40 |
| schestowitz | For online payment it's crucial | Sep 09 21:41 |
| schestowitz | google made encryption an option too, for search | Sep 09 21:41 |
| schestowitz | But it still logs you | Sep 09 21:41 |
| MinceR | your ISP can't, though | Sep 09 21:46 |
| MinceR | also, it might help bog down any spooks trying to break into HTTPS transmissions | Sep 09 21:46 |
| ender_2600 | yes, it will give the spooks extra work | Sep 09 21:56 |
| ender_2600 | like adding echelon keywords to your email sig | Sep 09 21:57 |
| ender_2600 | takes time | Sep 09 21:57 |
| ender_2600 | costs money | Sep 09 21:57 |
| schestowitz | they use automated tools | Sep 09 22:01 |
| schestowitz | But I guess then reading to see it's stuffed with decoy will waste manhours | Sep 09 22:01 |
| schestowitz | And maybe make their efforts as a whole obsolete | Sep 09 22:01 |
| schestowitz | the terrorists will win /sarcasm | Sep 09 22:02 |
| MinceR | even automated tools need CPU/GPU time | Sep 09 22:02 |
| schestowitz | guess who pays for it? | Sep 09 22:03 |
| schestowitz | WE pay for this | Sep 09 22:03 |
| ender_2600 | and a lengthy wait in lockheed martin's queue of stuff to brute force | Sep 09 22:03 |
| MinceR | yes, but they can't go to the public and beg for more funding admitting that they need more computing power to crack everyone's SSL transmissions | Sep 09 22:04 |
| ender_2600 | +1 | Sep 09 22:04 |
| MinceR | a lot of business depends on the security of SSL/TLS | Sep 09 22:04 |
| MinceR | admitting that they try to crack all of it would probably result in a scandal | Sep 09 22:04 |
| MinceR | or adding some magnitudes of bits to the standard key lengths at least :> | Sep 09 22:05 |
| ender_2600 | it might even cause them to go over their budget and not have money for other things | Sep 09 22:05 |
| ender_2600 | what if it causes the cops to purchase one less taser | Sep 09 22:05 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 09 22:05 |
| MinceR | or one less camera to record all your movements and actions in public spaces with | Sep 09 22:06 |
| ender_2600 | isn't there a tv commerical 'one less' | Sep 09 22:07 |
| ender_2600 | lol | Sep 09 22:07 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Sep 09 22:42 |
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