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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Sep 21 09:21 |
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| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 09:21 |
| schestowitz | > I undid some more vandalism from yet another IP address in San Diego. | Sep 21 09:21 |
| schestowitz | Interesting that of all pages it's the mono one being vandalised. | Sep 21 09:21 |
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| roy | The wiki spammer counter-attack is backfiring a bit today... | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > Hi, Roy, | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > Is this something with Varnish? In blocking the spammer, I've managed | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > to lock myself out. Can you unblock #1236? | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > Your user name or IP address has been blocked. | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > The block was made by Needs Sunlight. The reason given is Removing | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > content from pages: . | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > Start of block: 05:51, 21 September 2011 | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > Expiry of block: 05:51, 24 September 2011 | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > Intended blockee: 216.105.40.99 | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > You can contact Needs Sunlight or another administrator to discuss | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > the block. You cannot use the 'e-mail this user' feature unless a | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > valid e-mail address is specified in your account preferences and you | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > have not been blocked from using it. Your current IP address is | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > 216.105.40.99, and the block ID is #1236. | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | Almost all the traffic comes from the one Varnish server, which also acts a bit like HAproxy. We must really never block that address, otherwise all visitors will be greeted with the insult of having been banned. | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > I made this edit from my home machine and not in San Diego. Do you | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > have any ideas what's up and how to debug it? Canyouseeme.org shows | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > that I have my regular home address, but when I use Safari or Firefox, | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > the Wiki thinks that I'm connecting from San Diego. Opera works as | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > normal, though. | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | I can get to the wiki ok now, but I am really worried that the ban -- if any -- is not blocking genuine visitors. Was the block undone. | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | >> When I unblocked the address, within 2 minutes the vandal was | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | >> back. So I've re-blocked it. | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | >> | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | >> I'm coming from San Diego, according to the Wiki, even when I use | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | >> Tor. | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | Abusive commenters also come through vanrish. It makes trolling and abusive inevitable. | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > I tried a clean install of Xubuntu and on two routers and the problem | Sep 21 17:06 |
| roy | > still persists. Ideas? | Sep 21 17:07 |
| roy | Are genuine visitors being blocked? I haven't made any changes. We really need to ensure varnish is not banned. | Sep 21 17:07 |
| *roy is now known as schestowitz | Sep 21 17:11 | |
| schestowitz | > If I block 216.105.40.99 then I am banned unless I connect via Opera | Sep 21 17:14 |
| schestowitz | > on OS X. Safari and Firefox on OS X are blocked. Firefox on Xubuntu | Sep 21 17:14 |
| schestowitz | > is blocked. I am blocked even if I use a proxy in the US or use Tor. | Sep 21 17:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 17:14 |
| schestowitz | > If I unblock 216.105.40.99, then the vandal is back within minutes. | Sep 21 17:15 |
| schestowitz | I keep track oft he vandal via RSS and can swat him within 4 hours _at most_. So I think it's better not to use blockers. I panicked a bit when I read the first E-mail about a ban being applied to Varnish IP. IPTables too needed to have a special rule for it. | Sep 21 17:15 |
| Snit | I am happy to keep an eye on the wiki from time to time and make sure the information their is valid. | Sep 21 18:23 |
| Snit | Help keep trolling / FUD from being posted. | Sep 21 18:23 |
| Snit | Though I am not volunteering to do so on a regular basis... just to be an extra set of eyes and help reduce problems with the information there. | Sep 21 18:24 |
| Snit | Sounds like fun. | Sep 21 18:24 |
| schestowitz | > It also blocks me if I use a machine in the US to access it , not just | Sep 21 19:10 |
| schestowitz | > proxy. Or when I use Konqueror on Xubuntu. | Sep 21 19:10 |
| schestowitz | This oughtn't happen AFAIK, Generally, Gordon blacklisted quite a few spammer IPs from the wiki. | Sep 21 19:10 |
| MinceR | and then the wolf volunteered to guard the sheep | Sep 21 19:39 |
| schestowitz | It's not a wolf, it is a troll :-) | Sep 21 20:03 |
| schestowitz | A troll in wold clothing | Sep 21 20:03 |
| MinceR | "troll" doesn't work with that metaphor so well :> | Sep 21 20:03 |
| Snit | Why engage in such name calling? | Sep 21 21:18 |
| Snit | Notice: I came in and made a kind offer. No name calling or trolling or anything. | Sep 21 21:19 |
| Snit | Not that you have any examples of my actually trolling. | Sep 21 21:19 |
| *schestowitz yawns | Sep 21 21:24 | |
| Snit | Yes: your name calling and the like is boring. | Sep 21 21:25 |
| Snit | In any case, you said you would welcome me on your show. Clearly we have some differences - let's ask each other questions in a format where running is a challenge. When can I be back on the show? | Sep 21 21:26 |
| Snit | I would love to give you a chance to prove me wrong about some of the things I say about you. | Sep 21 21:26 |
| Snit | Love to give you a chance to prove yourself right about what you say about me. | Sep 21 21:27 |
| Snit | So pick a date. | Sep 21 21:27 |
| *schestowitz LOLs | Sep 21 21:39 | |
| Snit | Are you backing down from your word that I could be on the show again? Don't you want a chance to show how right you are? | Sep 21 21:49 |
| Snit | I welcome it. | Sep 21 21:49 |
| Snit | I want to give you a full chance to back up your claims about me. To my face (or my ear, I suppose). You will get to listen to me be stuck. | Sep 21 21:50 |
| Snit | So what day do you want me on the show? | Sep 21 21:52 |
| Snit | This weekend is tied up... but next is free. | Sep 21 21:52 |
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