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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/merenbey/status/111935285373317121Sep 09 00:09
schestowitzhmm..Sep 09 00:09
TechrightsSocial@merenbey: @schestowitz hey, I guess you misread this one: http://t.co/WlfL9O4 (Turkey and Turkmenistan are different countries).Sep 09 00:09
TechrightsSocial@: Sep 09 00:09
schestowitztoby need to see this http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2011/5/24/4823976.htmlSep 09 00:55
TechrightsSocialTitle: Gates Keepers :: Is it the policy of the Gates Foundation to change the way the war is conducted in Afghanistan? .::. Size~: 23.32 KBSep 09 00:55
schestowitz*needsSep 09 00:55
schestowitzmy cousin has just manages to get 4 touchpads on the cheapSep 09 00:58
schestowitz"Hey Roy, got 4 TouchPads for the family. LOVE webOS. A Honeycomb dual boot will be nice for more optimized apps. Keep on microblogging "Sep 09 00:58
schestowitzhttp://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=07LIMA2106&q=linuxSep 09 09:12
schestowitz"Sep 09 09:12
schestowitz Two models were initially offered under the PC PeruSep 09 09:12
schestowitzprogram at over 300 points of sale, with the lower pricedSep 09 09:12
schestowitzpackage costing $399. Each PC included a 40GB hard drive, aSep 09 09:12
schestowitz15" monitor, a 52x CD-ROM, a keyboard, a mouse, two 240wSep 09 09:12
schestowitzspeakers, a 1.44MB disk drive, free anti-virus software, theSep 09 09:12
schestowitzLinux operating system, three months of free InternetSep 09 09:12
schestowitzservice, a warranty, and free training. To make the PCs evenSep 09 09:12
schestowitzmore accessible, Intel provided a 36-month payment planSep 09 09:12
schestowitzoption. One model included an Intel Celeron 1.8 processorSep 09 09:12
schestowitzand 128MB RAM, while the other included an Intel P4 2.26Sep 09 09:12
schestowitzprocessor and 256MB RAM.Sep 09 09:12
schestowitz"Sep 09 09:12
TechrightsSocialTitle: Cable reference id: #07LIMA2106 .::. Size~: 25.32 KBSep 09 09:12
schestowitz"http://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=07TOKYO2251&q=linuxSep 09 09:13
schestowitz"Sep 09 09:13
TechrightsSocialTitle: Cable reference id: #07TOKYO2251 .::. Size~: 45.34 KBSep 09 09:13
schestowitz¶24.  (U) U.S. and Japanese IT Firms Consortium to sell LinuxSep 09 09:13
schestowitzSystems in JapanSep 09 09:13
schestowitz----------------Sep 09 09:13
schestowitzIn response to recently adopted GOJ government procurementSep 09 09:13
schestowitzguidelines which give preference to open source systems, a groupSep 09 09:13
schestowitzof major U.S. and Japanese IT firms have formed a consortium toSep 09 09:13
schestowitzproduce servers and software running an identical form of LinuxSep 09 09:13
schestowitzoperating system. The consortium includes Oracle, IBM, Hewlett-Sep 09 09:13
schestowitzPackard, Dell, NEC, Hitachi, and NTT Data. Oracle will manageSep 09 09:13
schestowitzthe maintenance of the operating system thus lowering costs forSep 09 09:13
schestowitzthose are considering switching to Linux.Sep 09 09:14
schestowitzThe Communications Ministry is concerned about over-reliance onSep 09 09:14
schestowitzMicrosoft Windows systems and claims that the fact that theSep 09 09:14
schestowitzWindows' source code is not open might limit freedom inSep 09 09:14
schestowitzdeveloping new systems. According to Nikkei, currently, 78Sep 09 09:14
schestowitzpercent of the servers in Japan run Microsoft Windows, comparedSep 09 09:14
schestowitzto 14 percent that run Linux. (ECON: Marilyn Ereshefsky)Sep 09 09:14
schestowitz¶25.  (U) Japanese MLB UpdateSep 09 09:14
schestowitz"Sep 09 09:14
schestowitzhttp://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=07GUANGZHOU562&q=linuxSep 09 09:14
schestowitz"|Sep 09 09:14
schestowitz¶13. (U) The School of Software Engineering of SCUT cooperatesSep 09 09:14
schestowitzextensively with multinational IT companies such as IBM China Ltd.,Sep 09 09:14
schestowitzMicrosoft Asia Research Center, HP China Ltd., Intel China Ltd.,Sep 09 09:14
schestowitzOracle Beijing, BEA, CISCO, and SUN. The school currently has anSep 09 09:14
schestowitzIBM mainframe education center, a Linux education training center,Sep 09 09:14
schestowitzeight labs which work jointly with the companies, three studentSep 09 09:14
schestowitzinnovation studios and one student industrial practice center.Sep 09 09:14
schestowitzCompanies like IBM and Microsoft not only provide funding andSep 09 09:14
schestowitzequipment to the research centers, but also work with the centers toSep 09 09:14
schestowitzdesign courses for the students. To keep up with the development ofSep 09 09:14
schestowitzinternational software, the school also incorporates courses fromSep 09 09:14
schestowitzuniversities like North West University from U.S., York UniversitySep 09 09:14
schestowitzfrom U.K., SAP from Germany, and IIT from India.Sep 09 09:14
schestowitz"Sep 09 09:14
TechrightsSocialTitle: Cable reference id: #07GUANGZHOU562 .::. Size~: 26.59 KBSep 09 09:14
schestowitzhttp://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=07NEWDELHI1120&q=linuxSep 09 09:14
schestowitz"Sep 09 09:15
schestowitzMedia server RHS, one S8720 Media server RHS, one HW DUP S8720 MediaSep 09 09:15
schestowitzserver RHS, and two CM3.1.2 Linux unity software controlled underSep 09 09:15
schestowitzECCN 5A002 and 5D002. The license applicant was Celestica Inc.,Sep 09 09:15
schestowitzSalem, NH.Sep 09 09:15
schestowitz"Sep 09 09:15
TechrightsSocialTitle: Cable reference id: #07NEWDELHI1120 .::. Size~: 15.22 KBSep 09 09:15
MinceRhttp://www.dilbert.com/2010-02-16/Sep 09 10:17
TechrightsSocialTitle: The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' color comic strips, animation, mashups and more! .::. Size~: 28.06 KBSep 09 10:17
schestowitzGood video, Paul is fun.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJqsZYD8MPI&feature=digest_refresh_monSep 09 14:07
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Ego Answers - Part 4       - YouTube .::. Size~: 91.52 KBSep 09 14:07
schestowitztechrights is aflood with traffic today, links like theseSep 09 18:57
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/NeoSting/statuses/112151198584422400Sep 09 18:57
TechrightsSocial@NeoSting: .@framaka C'est de s'en rendre compte 15 ans après qui fait peur #microsoft http://t.co/6MSXv2R #lobbyingSep 09 18:57
TechrightsSocial@: Sep 09 18:57
schestowitzfront page in linuxtoday tooSep 09 18:57
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/framaka/status/112040984287780864Sep 09 18:57
TechrightsSocial@framaka: Cablegate Wikileaks : Le lobbying de Microsoft à l'échelle mondiale est impressionnant http://t.co/bH6bFv2 On demande le boycott ?Sep 09 18:57
TechrightsSocial@: Sep 09 18:57
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/lwh/statuses/112162503781384192Sep 09 18:58
TechrightsSocial@lwh: @schestowitz helping apple for free sucks. Maybe if they used GPL people would be more inclined to test it?Sep 09 18:58
schestowitz"#FreeBSD 9.0 Beta 2 Released; Needs Installer Testing http://t.co/0uys0dr #bsd #unix"Sep 09 18:59
TechrightsSocial@: Sep 09 18:59
schestowitzI don't want to say things that upset the bsd communitySep 09 18:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/112204294719156224Sep 09 18:59
TechrightsSocial@keithccurtis: @schestowitz U need less paranoia. A basic fact that MS has people working on both things. Can't defeat what U don't understand.Sep 09 18:59
MinceRthey gladly say things to upset the free software communitySep 09 18:59
schestowitzI have better things to look a than the 'gentle' side of Microsoft, i.e. PRSep 09 19:00
schestowitzMinceR: not much anymoreSep 09 19:00
schestowitzas far as I can tellSep 09 19:00
schestowitzWhen did de raadt last throw a hissy?Sep 09 19:01
MinceRdunnoSep 09 19:01
MinceRit either was a long time ago or people ignore him so much it doesn't even propagate anymoreSep 09 19:01
schestowitzI think he portrayed himself as anti-FSF trollSep 09 19:06
schestowitzBy only getting publicity when doing *that*Sep 09 19:06
schestowitzI saw him in a docuSep 09 19:06
schestowitzAnd I know what he generally doesSep 09 19:06
schestowitzBut most I know about him is the trollingSep 09 19:06
schestowitzand the rants against inte./marvelSep 09 19:06
schestowitzthen there's the recent openbsd holeSep 09 19:06
schestowitzto which he respondedSep 09 19:07
schestowitzso he makes the impression of being a poisonous personSep 09 19:07
schestowitzand openbsd is seen by some as arrogantSep 09 19:07
MinceRas far as i can tell, most if not all the talking points favoring *bsd over gnu/linux are liesSep 09 19:08
MinceR(usually qualified with "that stuff is not part of the default install, therefore it doesn't count")Sep 09 19:08
schestowitzgot examples?Sep 09 19:10
schestowitzI notice in phoronixSep 09 19:10
schestowitzLarabel proprs up freebsd this weekSep 09 19:10
schestowitzand then did a provocative headlineSep 09 19:10
schestowitzsomething about bsd better for gaming then linux, with question mark in headlineSep 09 19:10
schestowitzI think phoronix is running low on newsSep 09 19:10
schestowitzso larabel scrapes a little off the bottom, I can't blame himSep 09 19:11
schestowitzI'm happy that we have cablegate nowSep 09 19:11
MinceRi've heard the "freebsd is so well documented" so many timesSep 09 19:11
MinceRthen i had to use itSep 09 19:11
schestowitzwe have like 505% more traffic than usuaul todaySep 09 19:11
schestowitznew visitors tooSep 09 19:11
MinceRturned out the arcane, never-used process of "getting mysql to work" was never documented anywhereSep 09 19:11
schestowitzMinceR: maybe it's well documentedSep 09 19:11
schestowitzat code level tooSep 09 19:11
MinceRi couldn't figure out how to convince the damn thing to start itSep 09 19:11
schestowitzcompared to windowsSep 09 19:11
schestowitzthe blobSep 09 19:12
MinceRand of course they changed everything so gnu/linux oriented guides won't workSep 09 19:12
schestowitzlinux has comments on the code in multiple languagesSep 09 19:12
MinceRwhen larabel props up bsd, that's just standard m$ pro-bsd bullshitSep 09 19:12
MinceRlarabel works for idgSep 09 19:12
schestowitzit's notSep 09 19:12
MinceRidg is a flunky of m$Sep 09 19:12
schestowitzcause he hardly propped it upSep 09 19:12
MinceRconnect the dotsSep 09 19:12
schestowitzthe issue is IDG ads thereSep 09 19:12
schestowitztthey advertise MS in Linux storiesSep 09 19:13
MinceR"we love bsd because it's free code we can take any time, but we can't admit that so we'll just make up random bullshit to advertise bsd"Sep 09 19:13
schestowitzohSep 09 19:13
schestowitzyou beat me to itSep 09 19:13
schestowitzre IDGSep 09 19:13
schestowitzbut..Sep 09 19:13
schestowitzhe insists it does not affect his contentSep 09 19:13
schestowitzand I believe himSep 09 19:13
schestowitzbut they still would pay him to provoke for hitsSep 09 19:13
schestowitzit's like the SOEMTHINGWorld sitesSep 09 19:14
schestowitzThey get paid by views/commentsSep 09 19:14
MinceRi don't believe himSep 09 19:14
schestowitzSo nobody does good invetigationsSep 09 19:14
schestowitzJust some appeal to emotionSep 09 19:14
schestowitz"Linux is dying"Sep 09 19:14
MinceRi always doubted it and he proved me right with his first troll headlineSep 09 19:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/112224714059026432Sep 09 19:20
TechrightsSocial@keithccurtis: @schestowitz I'm not telling you what to look at, I'm telling you there are multiple reasons for their success. Massive army of top ppl.Sep 09 19:20
schestowitzThis 'former' Microsofter keeps bugging meSep 09 19:20
MinceRformer microsofter like stephen elop?Sep 09 19:21
MinceRis he talking about m$ there?Sep 09 19:22
MinceRbecause in that case, i'd like to see what they have to show for all those "top" people. all the products i've seen from them were mind-bogglingly shoddy so far.Sep 09 19:22
MinceRin the "i'm pretty sure it took special training to fuck up things this badly" categorySep 09 19:23
MinceRtheir decisions tooSep 09 19:23
MinceR"i'm a "top" person and i say that building the windowing system into the supposed "microkernel" is a "top" idea! HERP DERP"Sep 09 19:24
schestowitz[19:22] <MinceR> is he talking about m$ there?Sep 09 19:25
schestowitzyesSep 09 19:25
schestowitzpretends to be flosserSep 09 19:25
schestowitzlobbying foss devs Sep 09 19:26
schestowitzpro-msSep 09 19:26
schestowitzpr0-mono]posts in lkmlSep 09 19:27
ender_2600http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=topSep 09 20:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: Urban Dictionary: top .::. Size~: 30.16 KBSep 09 20:05
MinceRoh.Sep 09 20:07
MinceRthat explains it, then.Sep 09 20:07
MinceRwell, half of it, anyway.Sep 09 20:07
MinceR(the "why is it not good?" part, but it doesn't explain the "why is it so bad?" part)Sep 09 20:08
schestowitzewww..Sep 09 21:10
MinceRhttp://redd.it/kabooSep 09 21:20
TechrightsSocialMissing content type. Ignoring.Sep 09 21:20
schestowitz[nsfw] http://i.imgur.com/Jd70N.jpgSep 09 21:24
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeSep 09 21:24
schestowitzact as though they don't exist and /ignore if that helpsSep 09 21:49
schestowitzMinceR: yes, each time they come here it's tio '\resarch' for an articleSep 09 21:49
schestowitzIt's to collect some irt they want createdSep 09 21:49
schestowitzto fill gapsSep 09 21:49
schestowitzMinceR: post my respons to that :-)Sep 09 21:49
schestowitz ^^ about trollsSep 09 21:50
MinceRadopting a policy of banning trolls might helpSep 09 21:54
MinceRstopping public logging might help alsoSep 09 21:55
MinceRor starting a channel without public logging, perhaps even a secret oneSep 09 21:55
schestowitzRe: Nokia's début "Tiles 7" phone will be a flop, suggests Microsoft developerSep 09 22:01
schestowitz____/ Homer on Friday 09 Sep 2011 15:42 : \____Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> Another stillborn product for the Vole:Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> [quote]Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> Those looking forward to a stunning début device from Nokia's WindowsSep 09 22:01
schestowitz> Phone division might want to look away now: even Microsoft doesn't giveSep 09 22:01
schestowitz> the handset more than eight out of ten.Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> In a teaser posted to Twitter late last night, Joe Marini - a principalSep 09 22:01
schestowitz> programme manager for Microsoft's Windows Phone web platform - claimedSep 09 22:01
schestowitz> to have early access to the first Windows Phone 7 device to come out ofSep 09 22:01
schestowitz> his company's partnership with ailing Finnish mobile maker Nokia.Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> ...Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> Sadly for any Nokia or Windows Phone fans hoping to be blown away by theSep 09 22:01
schestowitz> company's début device, it's not sounding anything special. AlthoughSep 09 22:01
schestowitz> described as 'the slickest looking' phone to have ever come out of theSep 09 22:01
schestowitz> Finnish company's factories, Marini - a man for whom the success ofSep 09 22:01
schestowitz> Windows Phone is everything, remember - was only willing to score it asSep 09 22:01
schestowitz> an eight out of ten.Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> [/quote]Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> Sep 09 22:01
schestowitz> http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/9/8/microsoftie-gives-nokias-wp7-debut-8-out-10Sep 09 22:01
TechrightsSocialTitle: Microsoftie gives Nokia's WP7 début 8 out of 10 | thinq_ .::. Size~: 25.67 KBSep 09 22:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/NavinChauhan/status/112284933887762432Sep 09 23:08
TechrightsSocial@NavinChauhan: @schestowitz Hi Roy , :-) to you aswell. I am now in Manchester and we should meet up soon. When might be you available? NavSep 09 23:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/NavinChauhan/status/112285362512068608Sep 09 23:09
TechrightsSocial@NavinChauhan: @schestowitz Good point Roy. Please reply to message re: meeting just sent to twitter . ThanksSep 09 23:09
schestowitz"Whereabouts are you? Can meet now in City Centre."Sep 09 23:09
schestowitzToday I also got bavck in touch with this girl who used to flirt with me ages ago. She started following me in twitter... quite odd this social network thingSep 09 23:10
schestowitzPeople from a decade ago popping back into existenceSep 09 23:10
schestowitzIf not by name then by groupings that reveal names you forgot about....Sep 09 23:11
schestowitzBut this can be freaky as well when you try to avoid some old friends who were trouble..Sep 09 23:11
schestowitzender_2600: this is a friend I have from CanadaSep 09 23:18
schestowitzHe left the UK, I think his brother is hereSep 09 23:19
schestowitzSee? Even some Canadians prefer the UK...Sep 09 23:19
schestowitzYet you love mocking the UK... I think cause of CCTV... or maybe it's just Ryan who mocks itSep 09 23:19
schestowitzAfter Toronto g20 the myth about canada was shattered a bitSep 09 23:20
schestowitzhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/64417045/Julian-Assange-and-How-He-Sees-the-WorldSep 09 23:24
TechrightsSocialTitle: Julian Assange and How He Sees the World .::. Size~: 114.44 KBSep 09 23:24

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