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schestowitz"Sep 15 00:27
schestowitz----------------------------- Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzAnd Who is Bill Gates Anyway? Sep 15 00:27
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schestowitz Sep 15 00:27
schestowitz¶6. (C) In fact, questions about the alleged U.S. ties to the Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzMB were probably the least of Akef's worries during his Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzappearance on Orbit.  Early on the show, the interviewer set Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzhim up with several questions clarifying the MB's calls for Sep 15 00:27
schestowitztransparency in Presidential elections and its support for Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzterm limits.  The interviewer then led Akef into explaining Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzthe process by which he was selected Supreme Guide, (by the Sep 15 00:27
schestowitz15-member Guidance Bureau), acknowledging that details of the Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzgroup's by-laws were not public, and conceding that the MB Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzitself imposed no term-limits on its leadership.  Going in Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzfor the kill, the interviewer stated that, in sum, a group Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzthat called for democracy, transparency, and term limits Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzapplied none of these principles to its own governance.  Akef Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzappeared rattled. Sep 15 00:27
schestowitz Sep 15 00:27
schestowitz¶7. (C) Later in the program, the interviewer asked Akef if he Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzknew what "Windows" was and who Bill Gates is.  An annoyed Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzAkef asked, "Is this live? ....Are you trying to show off?" Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzAkef conceded he knew nothing about either Windows or Bill Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzGates but asserted "When I need to know something, I have Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzhundreds and even thousands of assistants who can provide me Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzwith information on any topic." Sep 15 00:27
schestowitz"Sep 15 00:27
schestowitzhttp://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=05CAIRO2877&q=bill-gatesSep 15 00:27
TechrightsSocialTitle: Cable reference id: #05CAIRO2877 .::. Size~: 25.44 KBSep 15 00:28
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC2YDNiBxeM&feature=digest_refresh_monSep 15 00:55
TechrightsSocialTitle: Teh Wedding       - YouTube .::. Size~: 103.43 KBSep 15 00:55
schestowitzHe's got a good channelSep 15 00:55
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sebsebsebqu1j0t3: Windows 8Sep 15 02:00
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: ???????Sep 15 02:01
sebsebsebyeahSep 15 02:01
sebsebsebjust seen a screenshot a little while agoSep 15 02:01
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: you ain't speakin my languageSep 15 02:01
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: hehSep 15 02:01
sebsebsebwell WIndows 8 from a screenshot I saw a little while ago, looks quite nice to me Sep 15 02:01
*qu1j0t3 waits for Windows "No Windows This Year, they're all in Jail"Sep 15 02:01
sebsebsebfor WindowsSep 15 02:01
sebsebseband yeah better than UbuntuSep 15 02:01
sebsebseboh yeahSep 15 02:01
sebsebsebUbuntu;'s new branding since 10.04 really don't like it :(Sep 15 02:01
sebsebsebi'll rahter have the old brown look any day :DSep 15 02:02
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/83853461Sep 15 07:56
TechrightsSocial@George Hostler (ghostler)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 02:16:48 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Roy, that video is very logical and makes sense. "Some people" reminds me of c.o.l.advocacy trolls ignoring facts spouting FUD.Sep 15 07:56
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rex1ballard/status/114148936943550464?iid=am-114009196113160502032349860&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Sep 15 07:56
TechrightsSocial@rex1ballard: @schestowitz As usual, Microsoft clones Linux & competitor technology, releases it years later,r and calls it "Innovation". But breaks it.Sep 15 07:56
schestowitzComes exhibits shows this to be deliberateSep 15 07:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/114129576808022016Sep 15 08:06
TechrightsSocial@wikileaks: Recent statement by the New York based CPJ is misleading. The Ethiopian journalist, Argaw Ashine, mentioned by (cont) http://t.co/47H4ZUmLSep 15 08:06
TechrightsSocial@: Sep 15 08:06
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Sep 15 08:25
schestowitz> Sep 15 08:25
schestowitz> Would the acronym "Sensitive But Unclassified" fit?Sep 15 08:25
schestowitz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_but_unclassifiedSep 15 08:25
schestowitz> Sep 15 08:25
TechrightsSocialTitle: Sensitive but unclassified - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 33.64 KBSep 15 08:25
schestowitz> I can't tell from how they are used in the ones you've published soSep 15 08:25
schestowitz> far, but it might be the case.Sep 15 08:25
schestowitzI mostly ignore the classification also sometimes it provides a clue into the likelihood of a smoking gun being inside.Sep 15 08:25
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schestowitzToday my mate Kieran got a job where I do exerciseSep 15 20:51
schestowitzWhich is kind of cool staff/friendSep 15 20:51
schestowitzThere's this sick stalker who seems to think my life outside IT is some kind of secretSep 15 20:52
schestowitzAnd he struggles to make 'dirt' out of it, which is abundantly amusingSep 15 20:52
SnitWho?Sep 15 21:00
SnitSounds aweful.Sep 15 21:00
SnitYour personal life has nothing to do with your work on your site or in COLA.  Whoever is doing this is just flat out wrong.Sep 15 21:00
SnitIt is not a matter of it being a secret, it is a matter of it not being relevant and completely inappropriate for this person to use against you.  Whoever it is I will back you and speak up on your behalf.  Sep 15 21:01
SnitOr, wait... are you saying this "stalker" is not willing to talk about your private life?  Are they doing anything in terms of your private life?  If not, how are they a "stalker"?Sep 15 21:03
qu1j0t3Snit: what would their motives be?Sep 15 22:30
SnitTo target someone's personal and professional lives outside of the context of a discussion?Sep 15 22:32
qu1j0t3their personal life, yes.Sep 15 22:32
SnitWell, I have had stalkers and trolls tie their own lying to my personal and business life - seeding Google with my business name and their liesSep 15 22:32
SnitI have had people contact family members and lie to them.Sep 15 22:32
SnitEven to mention that type of stuff is a form of intimidation.  Why else would it even be mentioned?  Sep 15 22:33
qu1j0t3exactlySep 15 22:33
qu1j0t3"You drive a green Corolla. Isn't that interesting?"Sep 15 22:33
SnitSO I want to know who Roy is talking about.  As much as I disagree with him, I would back him on this.Sep 15 22:34
qu1j0t3"Funny how you stop at the same coffee shop every morning, isn't it?"Sep 15 22:34
SnitRight... Sep 15 22:34
qu1j0t3schestowitz tends to tick off some pretty nasty people.Sep 15 22:34
qu1j0t3i've had brushes with extremely dishonest people.Sep 15 22:34
SnitI have had people talk about when I teach specific classes, the names of my neighbors, etc.  Sep 15 22:34
SnitTo be clear: I am *not* referring to Roy on that.Sep 15 22:34
qu1j0t3when somebody's scam is uncovered, they bite back. I've seen people victimised for calling out fraud.Sep 15 22:34
qu1j0t3attackedSep 15 22:35
SnitI respond to trolls and give them attention... and that leads to them sometimes attacking me.Sep 15 22:35
qu1j0t3in various waysSep 15 22:35
SnitDittoSep 15 22:35
qu1j0t3whistleblowers tend to attract flakSep 15 22:35
SnitYes.Sep 15 22:35
SnitAnd note, even though Roy has at least danced on this line in terms of me, if someone has crossed it in terms of him I will back him and note it is wrong for anyone to do this to him.Sep 15 22:35
qu1j0t3of course.Sep 15 22:36
SnitBy the way, how did you know I drive a green corolla?  Sep 15 22:37
qu1j0t3LOL!Sep 15 22:37
SnitI am just kidding... of course.  Before that is taken out of context by someone.Sep 15 22:38

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