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schestowitzStudy: Privatizing government doesn’t actually save money Sep 16 00:25
schestowitzLOLSep 16 00:26
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/83970559Sep 16 00:26
TechrightsSocial@Qubit ArkHive (qubitarkhive)'s status on Thursday, 15-Sep-11 21:55:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz gardasil has recombinant dna and mass marketing, and you defend governmentSep 16 00:26
schestowitzBradndon is being odd todaySep 16 00:27
qu1j0t3:)Sep 16 00:40
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's a full moon.Sep 16 00:40
schestowitz!google thriller youtubeSep 16 01:14
TechrightsSocial[1] - Michael Jackson - Thriller - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DsOnqjkJTMaASep 16 01:14
TechrightsSocial[2] - "Thriller" (original upload) - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DhMnk7lh9M3oSep 16 01:14
TechrightsSocial[3] - Michael Jackson - Thriller - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DK1pwhR75eQ0Sep 16 01:14
TechrightsSocial[4] - Michael Jackson's Thriller (Full Version) Part 1 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D-9DEkFWt3igSep 16 01:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/keithccurtis/status/114493183706136576Sep 16 01:19
TechrightsSocial@keithccurtis: @schestowitz http://t.co/dUC6n2I5 This is missing a number of countries and too long but it might be good enough. Thanks.Sep 16 01:19
TechrightsSocial@: Sep 16 01:19
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schestowitzender again... http://twitter.com/qubitarkhive/statuses/114509509044600835 http://twitter.com/qubitarkhive/statuses/114510380960722944Sep 16 08:03
TechrightsSocial@qubitarkhive: @schestowitz - Nike is donating money from the BTTF2 shoes to MJF's charity http://t.co/h2Kujah8Sep 16 08:03
TechrightsSocial@: Sep 16 08:03
TechrightsSocial@qubitarkhive: @schestowitz who is the asshole now http://t.co/VVHyORloSep 16 08:03
TechrightsSocial@: Sep 16 08:03
schestowitzthe Microsofter too...Sep 16 08:04
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/keithccurtis/statuses/114550487210143745Sep 16 08:04
TechrightsSocial@keithccurtis: @schestowitz I hope you see how cataloging a list of Microsoft high-level government interactions is very interesting!Sep 16 08:04
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/keithccurtis/statuses/114550965260128257Sep 16 08:04
TechrightsSocial@keithccurtis: @schestowitz A few paragraphs for every country in one big list is ideal. Fewer pages is better.Sep 16 08:04
schestowitzHehe... http://twitter.com/qubitarkhive/statuses/114506282769199105Sep 16 08:06
TechrightsSocial@qubitarkhive: #Techrights should be more like #HeliOS - real action, real stuff - not just propagandaSep 16 08:06
schestowitzender pulls legs againSep 16 08:06
schestowitzhttp://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=08TALLINN326&q=comptiaSep 16 08:43
TechrightsSocialTitle: Cable reference id: #08TALLINN326 .::. Size~: 29.23 KBSep 16 08:44
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84121504Sep 16 17:23
TechrightsSocial@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Friday, 16-Sep-11 14:47:19 UTC - Identi.ca: He cannot include !IBM's #OS/2 in list of “ #fail” operating systems if he cannot even spell it http://ub0.cc/rS/ns {♺ @schestowitz, @zdnet}Sep 16 17:23
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Why desktop computing failed | ZDNet .::. Size~: 118.73 KBSep 16 17:23
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84137172Sep 16 18:47
TechrightsSocial@Sidney Charles Witherjay (ajpaulson)'s status on Friday, 16-Sep-11 17:32:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz it will be up and down over the entire weekend. This is just the start.Sep 16 18:47
ender_2600Ken Hess wrote that article for ZDNetSep 16 18:52
ender_2600hes a huge idiot, I wonder how he got on payrollSep 16 18:52
ender_2600http://www.zdnet.com/blog/virtualization/why-desktop-computing-failed/3747Sep 16 18:52
TechrightsSocialTitle: Why desktop computing failed | ZDNet .::. Size~: 117.47 KBSep 16 18:52
ender_2600"As a former desktop support engineer, I can tell you that supporting full-blown desktops is not fun. Nor is it fulfilling. It.s a losing battle against malware, poor software, viruses and the ever-tinkering user."Sep 16 18:54
ender_2600See, an idiotSep 16 18:54
ender_2600Not hard to lock down a workstationSep 16 18:54
ender_2600"And, the more complex something is, the easier it is to destroy via viruses, inadvertent actions and your neighbor the computer .expert.s. expertise."Sep 16 18:55
ender_2600starting a sentence with 'And' ?Sep 16 18:55
ender_2600as well as using too many comma splicesSep 16 18:55
ender_2600as if hes William ShatnerSep 16 18:59
ender_2600"Well, my friend, I'm not sure, but I think, that you can do this, am I right?'Sep 16 19:00
schestowitzhehSep 16 19:04
schestowitzI'm no fan of his articles eitherSep 16 19:04
schestowitzhe has provocative ones on VMsSep 16 19:04
schestowitz!google don't throw your hardware ken hessSep 16 19:05
TechrightsSocial[1] - Don't Throw Away Your Physical Servers Just Yet | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/virtualization/dont-throw-away-your-physical-servers-just-yet/3232Sep 16 19:05
TechrightsSocial[2] - On Virtualization and The Cloud: The Most Ridiculous Article I've ... | http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2011/06/the-most-ridiculous-article-iv.htmlSep 16 19:05
TechrightsSocial[3] - LXer: ZDnet needs to shut up about Linus: Linus Torvalds needs to ... | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/32017/Sep 16 19:05
TechrightsSocial[4] - LinuxDevCenter.com | http://linuxdevcenter.com/Sep 16 19:05
schestowitzread [1]Sep 16 19:05
schestowitzand headeskSep 16 19:05
schestowitzthan read ]2Sep 16 19:05
schestowitzI remember itSep 16 19:05
schestowitzender_2600: tomorrow I meet that mate from CanadaSep 16 19:08
schestowitzHaven't seen him since 2008Sep 16 19:08
ender_2600I guess if you want to write for zdnet you have to be an idiot.Sep 16 19:27
schestowitznoSep 16 19:38
schestowitzyou just need to get trafficSep 16 19:38
schestowitzthey hired Microsoft Emil recentlySep 16 19:38
schestowitzAssigned him to facebook topicSep 16 19:38
schestowitzodd..Sep 16 19:38
schestowitzBTWSep 16 19:38
schestowitzAs Blankenhorn said it:Sep 16 19:38
schestowitzThey pay based on views and commentsSep 16 19:39
schestowitzSo if they fail to get attention, no matter the ACCURACY of the reporting, they're outSep 16 19:39
schestowitzThat, IMHO, is a guarantee for inaccurate reportingSep 16 19:39
schestowitzHaving their paycheck depend on drawing a crowd, e.g. by provocationSep 16 19:39
ender_2600Ken also writes saucey repliesSep 16 19:46
ender_2600"Sorry about that. Actually, you can't prevent people from getting malware and viruses or tinkering. You know why? Because they're people and they break things. And, there's nothing wrong with starting a sentence with 'and' or any other word. And, who really cares if spelled OS/2 wrong? Everyone knows what it is. And, I've actually used it. A lot of people mispronounce Linux and I don't bother correcting them. Do youSep 16 19:57
qu1j0t3hhaSep 16 19:58
ender_2600mispronounce vs spellingSep 16 19:59
ender_2600different!Sep 16 19:59
ender_2600then he saidSep 16 19:59
ender_2600"People who get really upset by things like this need more to do with their time. A job perhaps would fill the void.Sep 16 19:59
ender_2600You could always pitch your own articles if you don't like mine.  ;-)"Sep 16 20:00
ender_2600I replied:Sep 16 20:00
ender_2600I guess you've never heard of:Sep 16 20:00
ender_26001) Group Policy and Active DirectorySep 16 20:00
ender_26002) The ability to block all executables from running if they are notSep 16 20:00
ender_26003) IDS Software can also do #2Sep 16 20:00
ender_2600in a whitelist, which can be signed with a certificate or a hash.Sep 16 20:00
ender_2600Real pro there. I do have a job and my users can't tinker or installSep 16 20:01
ender_2600things which get them infected. We also have automated malware scansSep 16 20:01
ender_2600*just in case* something exploits Flash. I'm even referring toSep 16 20:01
ender_2600Windows!Sep 16 20:01
ender_2600Linux can be locked down even harder. SELinux, AppArmour, preventingSep 16 20:01
ender_2600executable programs from running in the user's /home directory.Sep 16 20:01
ender_2600OS/2 is a product name (I've used it too). How about I call you KenSep 16 20:01
ender_2600Idiot, everyone will know whom I'm referring to (the idiot who thinksSep 16 20:01
ender_2600everything can be virtualized).Sep 16 20:01
ender_2600lolSep 16 20:01
schestowitz> Hi Roy: The first few weeks in October, NGINX, a prominent open sourceSep 16 20:30
schestowitz> player, will announce its commercial plans around its technology.Sep 16 20:30
schestowitz> Currently the second most popular open source web server andSep 16 20:30
schestowitz> accelerator, Nginx is quickly growing to be a forefront competitorSep 16 20:30
schestowitz> against the likes of Apache, Microsoft, and Google. 17% of the top 1,000Sep 16 20:30
schestowitz> most trafficked sites and 7% of the top 1,000,000 trafficked sites useSep 16 20:30
schestowitz> their technology, including numerous well known online properties likeSep 16 20:30
schestowitz> Groupon, Facebook, Hulu, and Zappos.Sep 16 20:30
schestowitz> Sep 16 20:30
schestowitz> Co-Founder Andrew Alexeev, will be in the Bay Area the week of OctoberSep 16 20:30
schestowitz> 5th and, if possible, would like to talk with you via conference call orSep 16 20:30
schestowitz> a face-to-face meeting (if you're in the area) to discuss Nginx's plans.Sep 16 20:30
schestowitz>  Sep 16 20:30
schestowitz> If possible, he would like to discuss:Sep 16 20:30
schestowitz> -Nginx's company strategy around this open sourced, high performance webSep 16 20:30
schestowitz> serverSep 16 20:30
schestowitz> -their plans on creating a commercial product and their product strategySep 16 20:30
schestowitz> including a US presenceSep 16 20:30
schestowitz> -how they plan on straddling the open source/commercial product fine lineSep 16 20:30
schestowitz> -product roadmap and timelinesSep 16 20:30
schestowitz> Sep 16 20:30
schestowitz> Please let me know if you may be interested in talking. I would be happySep 16 20:30
schestowitz> to set up a call or meeting.Sep 16 20:30
schestowitzWhy does NGINX need PR agents?Sep 16 20:30
ender_2600they be open sourceSep 16 20:35
ender_2600hehe ken admits itSep 16 20:39
ender_2600"And, as a writer, it's my job to be provocative. If everyone just wrote crap that echoed everyone else's opinion, there'd be no reason to read."Sep 16 20:39
ender_2600"Diplomacy comes with age and wisdom. But, if it's any consolation at all, I am an asshole. So, at least on that point you were spot on.  ;-)"Sep 16 20:39
MinceRso he's unable to disagree without being provocative?Sep 16 20:41
qu1j0t3rightSep 16 20:42
qu1j0t3:-XSep 16 20:42
ender_2600I think this means that he purposely writes stuff to anger people because it increases his hits or somethingSep 16 20:45
qu1j0t3CONTROVERSIALSep 16 20:45
qu1j0t3pageviews. eyeballs.Sep 16 20:45
qu1j0t3blah de blahSep 16 20:45
ender_2600ad revenueSep 16 20:45
qu1j0t3yeahSep 16 20:45
qu1j0t3money in the bank, manSep 16 20:45
ender_2600lol those non-desktop devices you use to read the site don't have ad blockersSep 16 20:45
ender_2600afaikSep 16 20:46
MinceRin other words, he's a trollSep 16 20:46
ender_2600or a standard journalistSep 16 20:46
ender_2600they're all trollsSep 16 20:46
ender_2600same with the editors who modify their headlines to attract readersSep 16 20:48
schestowitzdyesSep 16 20:51
schestowitzyesSep 16 20:51
schestowitzThe Reg does htis wildlySep 16 20:51
schestowitzand then I'd ask the writersSep 16 20:51
schestowitzWho shyly try to blame their bossSep 16 20:51
schestowitzthe editorSep 16 20:51
schestowitzMy editor in datamation did this too, changing all the headlines, just asking for permissionSep 16 20:51
ender_2600important to note I did send Ken a list of workloadsSep 16 21:06
ender_26003d games can't be virtualized, and stuff that uses more than one cpu is insanely slowSep 16 21:06
ender_2600can't as in, too slow if you do get it workingSep 16 21:06
ender_2600i'm waiting for the day where I can dump windows and virtualize it instead for my gamesSep 16 21:07
qu1j0t3i'm waiting for software that isn't targeted to windows any moreSep 16 21:08
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ender_2600sure that would be nice tooSep 16 21:09
ender_2600they would need to target one of the RHEL's or Ubuntu LTSSep 16 21:09
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/fcassia/status/114792882593988608?iid=am-37327486213162037307432590&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Sep 16 21:12
TechrightsSocial@fcassia: #FF @schestowitz the pro-competition, anti-Microsoft caped crusader, and sometimes ninja, too.Sep 16 21:12
ender_2600game developers want to finish their games and not have to provide updates till the end of timeSep 16 21:21
ender_2600lol!Sep 16 21:21
ender_2600"By the way, if you have any ideas for posts, let me know. Always up for suggestions. Of course, they'll have my special spin on them. ;-)"Sep 16 21:21
ender_2600It's amazing what you can get out of people when they drop their guard.Sep 16 21:22
qu1j0t3lolSep 16 21:43
ender_2600Thats him being friendly with me after I changed my tone and started to agree with him a little bit.Sep 16 21:48
*schestowitz is now known as inSep 16 22:08
*in is now known as schestowitzSep 16 22:08
schestowitzInteresting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITsYUjv_aEA&NR=1Sep 16 22:26
TechrightsSocialTitle: Barack Obama is not a believer       - YouTube .::. Size~: 89.94 KBSep 16 22:26
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFsB1Jk1OQ0&NR=1Sep 16 22:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: Barack Obama On Science And Charles Darwin       - YouTube .::. Size~: 104.3 KBSep 16 22:30
schestowitzLOL Close   Watch now Big Boi performing live at Austin City Limits Music FestivalSep 16 22:32
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFsB1Jk1OQ0&NR=1Sep 16 22:32
TechrightsSocialTitle: Barack Obama On Science And Charles Darwin       - YouTube .::. Size~: 104.3 KBSep 16 22:32
schestowitzvs http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=wMHTCNUj8cY&NR=1Sep 16 22:32
TechrightsSocialTitle: George Bush on Evolution       - YouTube .::. Size~: 96.89 KBSep 16 22:32
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=LCRyO6JP6OcSep 16 22:38
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bush drunk in Beijing       - YouTube .::. Size~: 99.63 KBSep 16 22:38
ender_2600you can even ban me goblin if that gets your dick hardSep 16 22:40
ender_2600 If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.Sep 16 22:41
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qu1j0t3:~|Sep 16 22:41
MinceRwell, that's the end of the troll's rants for today, i hopeSep 16 22:42
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sebsebsebhiSep 16 22:52
schestowitzhelloSep 16 22:53
sebsebsebschestowitz: you totally ignored something I said to you earlier in #techrights hmmSep 16 23:03
qu1j0t3NIVAHSep 16 23:03
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: Ender just got banned from #techrights and you missed it by the waySep 16 23:04
qu1j0t3it's not smth i needed to see :)Sep 16 23:04
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: yeah probably notSep 16 23:05
schestowitzI'm looking at cables tonightSep 16 23:54
schestowitzbeen watching mandelson mischief tonightSep 16 23:55
schestowitzabout 20 cablesSep 16 23:55
schestowitzdidn't find much thoughSep 16 23:55

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