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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: this utter crap is being put into code I need to work with in linux http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/z8y1yy88.aspx | Sep 21 01:06 |
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| TechrightsSocial | Title: inline, __inline, __forceinline .::. Size~: 41.62 KB | Sep 21 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Now I need to learn Microsoft syntax just to undo it? | Sep 21 01:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | you can remove it | Sep 21 01:10 |
| schestowitz | I have | Sep 21 01:10 |
| schestowitz | But I can't brute-force this... need to watch case by case | Sep 21 01:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t291050-how-to-force-inline-with-gcc-or-icc.html | Sep 21 01:11 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: How to force 'inline' with GCC or ICC .::. Size~: 63.54 KB | Sep 21 01:11 |
| schestowitz | not the only exampe of microsoft stuff that needs removal.. | Sep 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb759942.aspx | Sep 21 01:27 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: StrCmpI function (Windows) .::. Size~: 45.61 KB | Sep 21 01:27 |
| schestowitz | it's not even datatype compatible http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2024895/how-should-i-handle-cast-from-void-to-int-loses-precision-when-compiling-3 | Sep 21 01:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: c++ - How should I handle "cast from ‘void*’ to ‘int’ loses precision" when compiling 32-bit code on 64-bit machine? - Stack Overflow .::. Size~: 70.3 KB | Sep 21 01:33 |
| schestowitz | I've finally compiled FMM successfully, although with the following compromises: | Sep 21 02:01 |
| schestowitz | __inline, __forceinline etc. got removed as the compiler does not support them. It ought to be possible force 'inline' with GCC or ICC, but it would take further work that may not be a top priority. | Sep 21 02:01 |
| schestowitz | The StrCmpI function (Windows) is not supported, so I use StrCmp instead. The same goes for some preprocessors and type definitions that needed to be rewritten in an ISO C++-compatible way. | Sep 21 02:01 |
| schestowitz | Finally, attempts to cast fmm to ‘unsigned int’ made the compiler very angry, insisting that it loses precision perhaps because it assumes we are compiling 32-bit code on 64-bit machine. So anyway, I changed that to long. | Sep 21 02:01 |
| schestowitz | Is any of this critically problematic? | Sep 21 02:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: gcc supports inline. | Sep 21 02:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the correct type for integers that might hold pointers is intptr_t | Sep 21 02:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: that's safe on 32 or 64 | Sep 21 02:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and uintptr_t | Sep 21 02:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: for a case-insensitive strcmp, see strcasecmp | Sep 21 02:14 |
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| schestowitz | [02:13] <qu1j0t3> schestowitz: the correct type for integers that might hold pointers is intptr_t | Sep 21 09:12 |
| schestowitz | I did try it | Sep 21 09:12 |
| schestowitz | but the compiler didn't like it, so I did long | Sep 21 09:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 21 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has had two serious problems. One has been the lack of real innovation in the markets that make a significant portion of Microsoft's revenue stream. | Sep 21 09:54 |
| schestowitz | The Kinect interface to the XBox was brilliant, truly innovative, an an extraordinary accomplishment, but Microsoft hasn't been able to leverage that innovation into something that will impact it's key revenue streams, PCs and Business software. | Sep 21 09:54 |
| schestowitz | On the flip side, Microsoft is suffering from compatibility problems. Back in the early 1990s, the PC was mostly self-contained, needing very little in terms of connectivity or interaction with corporate business systems. Microsoft Office documents were simply attached to e-mails, sent out to the mailing list, an the reviewers sent back their comments an revisions, which then had to be manually merged back into the | Sep 21 09:54 |
| schestowitz | master documents. | Sep 21 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Many reviewers just printed out the document, market it up with red pen, and sent the hard-copy back via inter-office mail. Others would just add comments which then had to be redistributed to the entire distribution to be answered, and then the responses to the comments had to be integrated back into the master document. | Sep 21 09:54 |
| schestowitz | All of this was very labor intensive, storage intensive, and very difficult to track accurately. Critical information got lost, key decisions were forgotten or ignored, documented assumptions and identified risks were edited out, and the lack of an audit stream and reliable tracking led to serious legal problems which often hinged on who had the best audit trail on their personal computer. | Sep 21 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Corporate e-mail and file systems were bloated with the hundreds of copies of a document in all it's different versions, all nearly impossible to find. | Sep 21 09:54 |
| schestowitz | As a result, corporations began moving more and more of their business processes to servers running Linux or UNIX with Apache web server and Tomcat, WebSphere, or WebLogic application servers, a database such as MySQL, DB2, or Oracle, server side scripting such as PHP, or Java Servelet Pages. | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | The result was that more and more corporate information has been migrated from the wasteland of personal PC hard drives to controlled and managed corporate servers. | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Many of the business interactions that had been done with Microsoft Office have been moved to Twitter, Chat, LinkedIn, SalesForce.com, and Wikis, as well as corporate counterparts where confidential corporate information could be discussed and managed. | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Regulatory changes such as Sarbane's Oxley and HIPPA forced corporations to move from the renegade Excel spreadsheets an Word Documents embedded in e-mail to web fronted databases, structured XML documents presented by AJAX and Web 2.0, and document management systems that forced a full complement of metadata with any form of attachement, as well as the use of, and generation of PDF documents that could not be modified and e- | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | mailed out as "final documents with unaccepted revisions accepted by the the person trying to hide them in the documentation. | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Electronic publishing of pretty Word documents and static PowerPoint slides has given way to Blogs, Tweets, Flash, as well as Eclipse based design tools that allow graphical models to generate working systems with minimal coding and specialized development. | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | And the flood of e-mails with embedded Microsoft Office documents has lost favor because of the massive flood of spam and other non-critical e-mail and promotional materials which cause critical documents to get "Lost in the Mail". | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Today, more and more corporations are looking for ways to manage work-flow, and use Wikis, Blogs, work queues, and shared databases to provide places for members of different teams to quickly get the information they need without having to search through the 300 e-mails they got this morning, some of which were buried by the e-mail spam filter that sorted critical contract information into the "Read sometime later this month" | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | folder, or worse, the "Junk" folder. | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has tried to keep pace, with SharePoint, and better integration with SQL Server, but their entire business strategy has been centered around keeping all of the user's personal and business information on their personal computer. | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Meanwhile, applications like Google Docs, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Wikipedia, Google, and Web 2.0 have shifted more and more of the market away from the "Windows Only" platforms. As these companies track their users, tracking which browsers each individual uses, which operating systems, and which resolutions, they have learned that Windows-only strategies would substantially limit their market. Because they can see | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | behind the firewalls, NAT routers, and DHCP addresses, they can see the Linux/Unix systems, including Android Tablets, Kindles, Cable Boxes, iPhones, iPads, Android Phones, WebOS phones, and corporate and personal Linux/Unix systems installed on everything from PCs to PDAs. They have quickly discovered that platform independent technology such as truly multi-platform Java, Eclipse, and Web 2.0 and Dojo are critical to | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | their success. | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Meanwhile, those parts of the industry that have become totally dependent on Microsoft, Windows, and Office for their success have been struggling with Hard Times. For almost 5 years now, profits have turned to losses, PC retailers have gone bankrupt, PC Manufacturers have gone bankrupt. Mergers and consolidation have reduced the number of US manufacturers to 2 companies, with more of the PC makers being owned and | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | managed by Asia, where Linux-ready computers are a big part of their market. | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Today, Retailers, manufacturers, and Microsoft fight ruthlessly for the few scraps of profit - the Antivirus, the support program, and the damage replacement program. It's quite easy to buy a PC for $430 and pay $400 for these little "Extras" as well as $150 for Microsoft Office Activation, and a thousand dollars or more for corporate software like Visio, Project, and Visual Studio. | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | This makes Android, with it's $2-5 applications and thousands of free applications look like a huge bargain. And with hundreds of thousands of applications under $5, and about 2/3 of them free, Microsoft is facing a market where the old "License Fees up front" model just doesn't cut it. | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | (rex ballard) | Sep 21 09:55 |
| MinceR | holy wall of text, batman! | Sep 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, we both can think of several reasons. I'm concerned that one of | Sep 21 10:45 |
| schestowitz | > the mono-using developers of (Beagle? was it?) recently joined the | Sep 21 10:45 |
| schestowitz | > Obama campaign. That's a sure sign that they've set their sites on | Sep 21 10:45 |
| schestowitz | > the government from the inside. | Sep 21 10:45 |
| schestowitz | What does the campaign use other than Drupal? | Sep 21 10:45 |
| schestowitz | > I don't know but it was on my list of things to do to suggest to the | Sep 21 11:02 |
| schestowitz | > FSF a campaign to reach out to the two parties and help set up their | Sep 21 11:03 |
| schestowitz | > campaign offices with FOSS. The campaigns both got cracked in the | Sep 21 11:03 |
| schestowitz | > 2008 election towards the end. Without guidance they'll both end up | Sep 21 11:03 |
| schestowitz | > running Windows desktops and e-mailing eachother large files. Barf. | Sep 21 11:03 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: how's the logo? | Sep 21 11:31 |
| schestowitz | owned by a geek ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObAMfhEcR04 | Sep 21 11:45 |
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| schestowitz | I wrote some posts this afternoon. I'll publish them as soon as I can and then I need to code the rest of the day, so not much time for news or IRC :-( | Sep 21 17:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | same here | Sep 21 17:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | did some quick sketches | Sep 21 17:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | need to do some more | Sep 21 17:24 |
| schestowitz | You didn tweet much this month and last month | Sep 21 17:28 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: if you don't have time for the logo, let know and I'll do one myself | Sep 21 17:28 |
| schestowitz | I meet the client on Friday, so need it done by the | Sep 21 17:28 |
| schestowitz | *then | Sep 21 17:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no, I have time. | Sep 21 17:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's only a small job. i just want to make sure i have something decent. | Sep 21 17:51 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Sep 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, I don't have the gmds code that uses it yet. | Sep 21 21:48 |
| schestowitz | > This is the main goal of the present project. | Sep 21 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Yes, just making sure that's the case. I will debug the FMM issue that I have tonight, as a baseline from which build up. | Sep 21 21:48 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... red hat's PR people have just contacted me | Sep 21 21:49 |
| schestowitz | I don't like being treated like PR victim | Sep 21 21:49 |
| schestowitz | > Roy, | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > This afternoon, Red Hat announced its second quarter financial results. | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > Total revenue for the quarter was $281.3 million, an increase of 28% | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > from the year ago quarter. Subscription revenue for the quarter | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > was $238.3 million, up 28% year-over-year. | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > The earnings call will be held at 5:00pm ET, and can be accessed at | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://investors.redhat.com/eventdetail.cfm?EventID=102208. | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 21:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Red Hat, Inc. - Events & Presentations .::. Size~: 28.94 KB | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > The full earnings release is below, and available online at | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > http://bit.ly/oKF9ph. If you have any questions, or would be interested | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > in speaking to one of Red Hat’s executives about the company’s growth | Sep 21 21:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Red Hat, Inc. - Red Hat Reports Second Quarter Results .::. Size~: 269.93 KB | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > and future strategy, please let me know. | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks, | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > Stephanie | Sep 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 21 21:51 |
| schestowitz | > 703-287-7819 | Sep 21 21:51 |
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