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schestowitz<http://practical-tech.com/?p=4497>Sep 22 00:25
schestowitzNow I agree with you on SJVN... :-)Sep 22 00:25
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Linux desktop is dead. Long live the Linux desktop. .::. Size~: 38.22 KBSep 22 00:25
TechrightsSocialNow I agree with you on SJVN... :-)Sep 22 00:25
schestowitzhe's trolling for hitsSep 22 00:25
schestowitzsutor actually made a detailed post for a change http://www.sutor.com/c/2011/09/mobile-native-vs-hybrid-vs-html5-1/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BobSutor+%28Bob+Sutor%29Sep 22 00:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: Mobile app development: Native vs. hybrid vs. HTML5 (part 1) | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 51.13 KBSep 22 00:53
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schestowitz____/ Homer on Thursday 22 Sep 2011 03:28 : \____Sep 22 09:52
schestowitz> Verily I say unto thee that Snit spake thusly:Sep 22 09:52
schestowitz> Sep 22 09:52
schestowitz>> So what does that say about GNU / Stallman?  Do you really thinkSep 22 09:52
schestowitz>> GNU/Linux folks are more likely to support child porn and pedophiliaSep 22 09:52
schestowitz>> than are other groups?Sep 22 09:52
schestowitz> Sep 22 09:52
schestowitz> You missed it. In fact I don't think anyone who read those comments hadSep 22 09:52
schestowitz> the faintest idea where Stallman was coming from, or perhaps they justSep 22 09:52
schestowitz> feigned ignorance as an excuse to attack him.Sep 22 09:52
schestowitz> Sep 22 09:52
schestowitz> Stallman is an academic nerd who considers issues empirically and withSep 22 09:52
schestowitz> complete dispassion.  Or to spell it out: the female human body isSep 22 09:52
schestowitz> biologically capable of reproduction at the age of ~12, and indeed bothSep 22 09:52
schestowitz> marriage and procreation at that age was historically very common, givenSep 22 09:52
schestowitz> that the average life expectancy in those days was much lower thanSep 22 09:52
schestowitz> today. Stallman was simply challenging the proposition that sexualSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> activity between those old enough to procreate should be defined asSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> "abuse" per se, based purely on some arbitrary number. He wasn'tSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> expressing a sexual preference, he was simply answering an academicSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> question, with the same dispassion a veterinary surgeon would considerSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> the appropriate age to neuter a cat.Sep 22 09:53
schestowitz> Sep 22 09:53
schestowitz> Personally, I'm sexually indifferent to the human form until it hasSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> reached sufficient definition that it is unambiguously an adult female,Sep 22 09:53
schestowitz> indeed one which exudes sexuality, and I have little interest inSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> pursuing a romantic relationship with anyone who can't communicate withSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> me at my own level of maturity and intelligence.  But I really don'tSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> know how I'm supposed to pick a number from that, given that every humanSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> is a unique individual who matures at his or her own rate. If I had toSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> guess, I'd say anyone less than half my age would be far too young forSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> me, emotionally, but that's still well within the legal limit. TheSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> question becomes far more contentious when one is at or near the legalSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> age of consent, when someone just one day younger than oneself mightSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> technically be a "minor". Is that "abuse"? No, but the law says it'sSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> "paedophilia".Sep 22 09:53
schestowitz> Sep 22 09:53
schestowitz> Unfortunately society is filled with abusive people, or at least thoseSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> who lack good judgement, and therefore we need laws to stop or punishSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> that abuse. It's for that reason the law settled on an arbitrary numberSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> to define the legal age of consent, or in fact several arbitrarySep 22 09:53
schestowitz> numbers, in several jurisdictions. In practice this means that perfectlySep 22 09:53
schestowitz> legal sexual relations in one jurisdiction are illegal in another, andSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> that sexually mature people might be guilty of breaking the law based onSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> some number that has no relevance to their situation. But that is theSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> only effective means we have to deal with predators who abuse children.Sep 22 09:53
schestowitz> Sep 22 09:53
schestowitz> Consider this: at some point lawmakers had to sit down and discuss theSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> very issues that Stallman addressed. What if they'd settled on theSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> number 14 instead of 16? Would they have been "paedophiles" too? By thatSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> definition, the entire States of Arkansas, Indiana, and Iowa must alsoSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> be full of "paedophiles". Indeed the residents of Arizona, California,Sep 22 09:53
schestowitz> Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Virginia and Wisconsin mustSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> consider the remaining parts of the US to be "paedophile states":Sep 22 09:53
schestowitz> Sep 22 09:53
schestowitz> http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htmSep 22 09:53
schestowitz> Sep 22 09:54
TechrightsSocialTitle: Worldwide Ages of Consent .::. Size~: 158.16 KBSep 22 09:54
schestowitz> But like most people who keep labouring Stallman's comments, you're notSep 22 09:54
schestowitz> really interested in academically debating the subject matter, you'reSep 22 09:54
schestowitz> only interested in capitalising on any opportunity to attack someone whoSep 22 09:54
schestowitz> doesn't share your extremist politics in other, unrelated issues.Sep 22 09:54
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84224714Sep 22 18:12
TechrightsSocial@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-11 16:59:41 UTC - Identi.ca: #CloudLinux Now Running on More Than 5,000 Servers  http://is.gd/cv5Fwp commendable milestone, anyone can #RHEL his/her own waySep 22 18:12
TechrightsSocial-> Title: CloudLinux Now Running on More Than 5,000 Servers .::. Size~: 22.41 KBSep 22 18:12
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84224137Sep 22 18:13
TechrightsSocial@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-11 16:11:24 UTC - Identi.ca: It is unfair to extrapolate constructive criticism of Android to an "attack" on the whole of "Open Source"->just inciting against messengersSep 22 18:13
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sebsebsebhiSep 22 21:01
sebsebsebMinceRSep 22 21:02
MinceRsebsebsebSep 22 21:02
sebsebsebMinceR: so anyway you know what a MinceR is right?Sep 22 21:24
sebsebsebit's used in food I belive?Sep 22 21:24
sebsebsebto mash/stir things round?Sep 22 21:24
MinceRyesSep 22 21:24
MinceRto turn meat into tiny bitsSep 22 21:25
sebsebsebMinceR: so also in a way to destroy thingsSep 22 21:25
sebsebsebexactly  yeahSep 22 21:25
sebsebseband so when I put MSincer earlier in #techrightsSep 22 21:25
sebsebsebwellSep 22 21:25
sebsebsebMinceR: that could have meant thatSep 22 21:25
sebsebsebyour a Microsoft destroyerSep 22 21:26
sebsebsebor  Mark Shuttleworth destroyerSep 22 21:26
sebsebsebor I think there's a diesae even that is MS for shortSep 22 21:26
sebsebsebnot sure quiteSep 22 21:26
MinceRicSep 22 21:27
sebsebsebMinceR: so yeah that was the joke reallySep 22 21:28
sebsebseb:DSep 22 21:28
sebsebseb,but of course one you coudn't just pick up onSep 22 21:28
MinceRyeah, i didn't get it entirelySep 22 21:28
sebsebsebMinceR: hmm my Dad will probably be around when I do Techbytes tommorow, but he'll probably leave me alone so :DSep 22 21:29
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: Multiple SclerosisSep 22 21:50
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schestowitz:-)Sep 22 23:57
schestowitzqu1j0t3: btw, I need to show the site tomorrow to the clientSep 22 23:57
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schestowitzif you've not had a chance to do the logo yet, I'll make one nowSep 22 23:57

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