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schestowitz | abushcrafter: it's mostly gor SIP | Sep 10 00:00 |
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schestowitz | *for | Sep 10 00:00 |
abushcrafter | Yes but that does not mean it can't be used for podcasts | Sep 10 00:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 We're fund-raising. You can book a talk from Julian Assange (sat from house arrest) here: http://t.co/Og78toH | Sep 10 00:00 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 10 00:00 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/83261160 | Sep 10 00:00 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Danny (tekk)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 22:52:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I was questioning the release of 5 anyway. 3 series lasted what, 6 years? | Sep 10 00:01 |
abushcrafter | It's a popular use for it. | Sep 10 00:01 |
schestowitz | re "#KDE insists that #KDE5 is not really KDE5 but a framework aside... well, the X in 4.X releases soon exceeds 9." | Sep 10 00:01 |
schestowitz | abushcrafter: for a reason | Sep 10 00:02 |
abushcrafter | Which it is very good at. | Sep 10 00:02 |
schestowitz | It now takes about 1.5 hours to encode each file on dual-core | Sep 10 00:02 |
schestowitz | making another file would require showing interest | Sep 10 00:02 |
schestowitz | The low-quality mp3 file is about 8 mb/hour | Sep 10 00:02 |
schestowitz | and the quality is decent | Sep 10 00:02 |
schestowitz | for music too | Sep 10 00:02 |
abushcrafter | Ouch. Still getting data... | Sep 10 00:02 |
schestowitz | what data? | Sep 10 00:03 |
MinceR | gn | Sep 10 00:03 |
schestowitz | nn | Sep 10 00:03 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/112297621112094720 | Sep 10 00:03 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @wikileaks: We're fund-raising. You can book a talk from Julian Assange (sat from house arrest) here: http://t.co/Og78toH | Sep 10 00:03 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 10 00:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Birds fly into windows all the time... its why skycaraper windows are often decorated with hawk silhouettes. It's a biggie. | Sep 10 00:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Just finished a fun five weeks teaching programming and #Python to year 11s at Brunswick Secondary College. | Sep 10 00:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Birds can see really well. They can catch bugs in flight; they can see #windmills. I can't see it as a problem at all really. FUD | Sep 10 00:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Next week we'll have some different focus in #cablegate analyses. We've only gone through 0.1% of the whole. !techrights | Sep 10 00:05 | |
abushcrafter | Music encoded at Q10 is a little bit worser that mp3 Q9 | Sep 10 00:06 |
XFaCE | Hi jono | Sep 10 00:06 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Next week we'll have some different focus in #cablegate analyses. We've only gone through 0.1% of the whole. !techrights | Sep 10 00:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How did Bruce Willis make a living in the film industry? | Sep 10 00:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] For Remembrance Day - Heather Borean performing Unknown Canadian Soldier: http://youtu.be/0mcpnIKXTB8 #folkmusic #canadiana #greatmusic | Sep 10 00:07 | |
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jono | hi XFaCE | Sep 10 00:07 |
schestowitz | oddly enough I got some mass-mailed message regarding 9/11 from meetup.com today. Never got message from them in 5 years! | Sep 10 00:07 |
XFaCE | jono: Do you follow Xubuntu? | Sep 10 00:07 |
schestowitz | XFaCE: Jono is BUSY !!! | Sep 10 00:07 |
jono | XFaCE, yep | Sep 10 00:07 |
jono | but I am busy, as schestowitz says :-) | Sep 10 00:08 |
schestowitz | :-) | Sep 10 00:08 |
XFaCE | ok, not a joke then. :P | Sep 10 00:08 |
schestowitz | it was a joke | Sep 10 00:08 |
schestowitz | more like banter | Sep 10 00:08 |
XFaCE | ok, doesn't really work as I am clueless of the context. | Sep 10 00:08 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: 9/11 stuff hmm, just seen some, News Night was dedicated to that | Sep 10 00:08 |
schestowitz | bl;ech | Sep 10 00:08 |
sebsebseb | from New York as well thist ime | Sep 10 00:08 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @magicfab Speaking of avoiding SaaS services, is there a FLOSS alternative to meetup.com ? #free !#sf #autonomous | Sep 10 00:09 | |
schestowitz | I'll keep my telly shut... h wait.. I got rid of my telly years ago | Sep 10 00:09 |
DaemonFC | Unspecified threat | Sep 10 00:09 |
DaemonFC | red alert | Sep 10 00:09 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah TV been going on about it a lot this week | Sep 10 00:09 |
DaemonFC | polarize the hull plating and load photonic torpedoes | Sep 10 00:09 |
DaemonFC | phase cannons on standby | Sep 10 00:09 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Sep 10 00:09 |
schestowitz | yearning for more mass-suicide attack those politicians | Sep 10 00:09 |
schestowitz | Still hanging on to 2001 | Sep 10 00:09 |
schestowitz | For us to be fearful and thus obedience | Sep 10 00:10 |
sebsebseb | so is most of the world when it comes to computers, yep WIndows XP | Sep 10 00:10 |
sebsebseb | most computer users | Sep 10 00:10 |
sebsebseb | above I mean | Sep 10 00:10 |
XFaCE | DaemonFC: Why do you use port 7070 for IRC and not simply 7000? | Sep 10 00:10 |
schestowitz | 10 years since 9/11 is actually proof that we are quite safe | Sep 10 00:10 |
abushcrafter | Is it just the music at the beginning? If so that is crucifiable in my opinion. Though you could have a HTML5 player that automatically switches between speex and ogg. now to compleate cheaking/reminding myself on speex bowser support | Sep 10 00:10 |
DaemonFC | XFaCE: Just because | Sep 10 00:10 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh, but there's an idea, that there will be another attack | Sep 10 00:10 |
schestowitz | if for 10 years no major incident except MASSIVE Iraq war has happened | Sep 10 00:10 |
sebsebseb | soon | Sep 10 00:10 |
DaemonFC | it drives my ISP crazy | Sep 10 00:10 |
schestowitz | Ahnd it was invoked by Western terrorism | Sep 10 00:10 |
schestowitz | Based on a lie | Sep 10 00:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Melbourne Free Software discussion on this Thurs 15 Sept. This month, my favorite free software games. http://ur1.ca/saq5 | Sep 10 00:10 | |
XFaCE | DaemonFC: Does it matter otherwise? | Sep 10 00:10 |
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schestowitz | More people die from cancer every day than people who died in 9/11 | Sep 10 00:10 |
schestowitz | How about a War on Cancer? | Sep 10 00:11 |
schestowitz | Cheaper than multi-trillion dollar wars and many kids "in parts" | Sep 10 00:11 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: thee are always attacks | Sep 10 00:12 |
schestowitz | Like from people who claim he war will end | Sep 10 00:12 |
schestowitz | and then cling onto something someone saw | Sep 10 00:13 |
schestowitz | to claim it almost ended | Sep 10 00:13 |
schestowitz | They're badly drawn on card | Sep 10 00:13 |
schestowitz | *cards | Sep 10 00:13 |
XFaCE | DaemonFC: Is it more/less secure? Do you know many things I don't? | Sep 10 00:13 |
schestowitz | So they want all those whom they hate to die with them | Sep 10 00:13 |
schestowitz | And maybe have a wasteland apocalyptic scenario in which to have a lawless anarchic state where they can stone people they don;t llke without getting arrested | Sep 10 00:14 |
DaemonFC | XFaCE: it's just one of the two ports Freenode supports SSL on | Sep 10 00:14 |
DaemonFC | I don't know why I went with 7070, I just did | Sep 10 00:14 |
DaemonFC | :) | Sep 10 00:14 |
XFaCE | ok | Sep 10 00:14 |
XFaCE | thanks for clarifying | Sep 10 00:14 |
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XFaCE | DaemonFC: Also, can you make more email commentary posts? They're hilarious. | Sep 10 00:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @wayneborean Moving. I look forward to the day when soldiers are not needed. | Sep 10 00:15 | |
DaemonFC | well, I can only comment to stupidity as it happens | Sep 10 00:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks news update http://t.co/9YoiVNA | Sep 10 00:17 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 10 00:17 |
schestowitz | http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2011/09/09/workshop-%e2%80%9cstandards-in-the-cloud-a-transatlantic-mindshare%e2%80%9d/ | Sep 10 00:21 |
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schestowitz | abushcrafter: are you tekk? | Sep 10 00:21 |
schestowitz | just got this: | Sep 10 00:21 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/83262385 http://identi.ca/notice/83262396 | Sep 10 00:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Danny (tekk)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 23:14:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz as a (if my random guess from a few seconds of podcast is right), you're a german(or the area) in the UK... | Sep 10 00:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Danny (tekk)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 23:14:57 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz so why would you be interested O.o(ah, not even using the data you have on your own servers...) | Sep 10 00:22 |
schestowitz | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Šestajovice_u_Jaroměře | Sep 10 00:23 |
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abushcrafter | There is a reference in the document "W3C - HTML5 - A vocabulary and associated APIs for HTML and XHTML - W3C Working Draft 4 March 2010" of" Speex audio alone in Ogg container | Sep 10 00:23 |
abushcrafter | <source src='audio.spx' type='audio/ogg; codecs=speex'>" | Sep 10 00:23 |
abushcrafter | Thats what I rememberd | Sep 10 00:23 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/homembit/status/112301087733710848 | Sep 10 00:23 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @homembit: @schestowitz please be the first to read this: http://miud.in/VR8 (you'll enjoy that a lot !) | Sep 10 00:23 |
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abushcrafter | Needed to find more info but never did. | Sep 10 00:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk http://ur1.ca/51sn0 | Sep 10 00:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @psquid: @thistleweb Timmeh! | Sep 10 00:24 | |
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abushcrafter | no thats not me | Sep 10 00:24 |
abushcrafter | I use the same name | Sep 10 00:24 |
abushcrafter | I think browser support is pending. Can't remember my source. | Sep 10 00:25 |
abushcrafter | So it would be very cutting edge. | Sep 10 00:25 |
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schestowitz | when it's used by people I can encode in it | Sep 10 00:30 |
schestowitz | it already takes over 5 hours | Sep 10 00:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mostly pointless patent reform bill goes to Obama for signature http://ur1.ca/51snh Change we can all laugh at. #swpats | Sep 10 00:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Assigned the ISBN for Volume 3 of Copyright Wars #amwriting | Sep 10 00:32 | |
schestowitz | huh? http://identi.ca/notice/83263097 | Sep 10 00:33 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Danny (tekk)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 23:29:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ah, explains why it was so odd to me. don't think I've ever actually heard any czech accents before you | Sep 10 00:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Will Ubuntu #Linux Switch to a Monthly Release Cycle? http://tinyurl.com/3d4zf5h | Sep 10 00:34 | |
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schestowitz | I'm not czech | Sep 10 00:34 |
schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/microsofts-online-services-briefly-go-dark/1437] | Sep 10 00:35 |
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schestowitz | LOL | Sep 10 00:35 |
schestowitz | Typical | Sep 10 00:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk haven't seen that. These days the only movies i see are usually remaindered or whatever Harold discontinues at the video store #cheap | Sep 10 00:37 | |
DaemonFC | Office 364 and counting? | Sep 10 00:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @kevie (dream happy thoughts, not Brruce Willis films full of #violence) | Sep 10 00:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] made me laugh, @bananabob http://identi.ca/notice/83263423 | Sep 10 00:39 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @James Eaton (bananabob)'s status on Friday, 09-Sep-11 23:35:37 UTC - Identi.ca: "Holy cow, it's bovine bingo" The strange things that pass as entertainment in !NZ !bananas http://is.gd/QpFpPP | Sep 10 00:39 |
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abushcrafter | but if long term one could use it. It, I think you would save you a lot of bandwidth. Though I need to listen to a few pod's to know if it is just some music at the beginning and end or if you use all sorts of audio though-out the podcast. Remember GNU/Linux uses can use it. It just came to me, I have audio books on cds. ought to see how long it would take to encode my self. I shall now shutup and leave you in peace from speex. | Sep 10 00:41 |
sebsebseb | jono: Ubuntu isn't going to do a Firefox right? http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/239804/will_ubuntu_linux_switch_to_a_monthly_release_cycle.html | Sep 10 00:42 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @araceletorres: Mas quem reza pelas vítimas no Iraque, Afeganistão, Oriente Médio? Por todas as vítimas da tirania norte-americana? | Sep 10 00:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @lxoliva @araceletorres: Mas quem reza pelas vítimas no Iraque, Afeganistão, Oriente Médio..todas as vítimas da tirania norte-americana? | Sep 10 00:44 | |
schestowitz | office 360 | Sep 10 00:44 |
schestowitz | now with office live | Sep 10 00:44 |
schestowitz | office 360 live | Sep 10 00:44 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Xbox Live will soon be joined by Office 360 (365-5 days downtime) and Office Live -> Office Live 360? http://ur1.ca/51svb | Sep 10 00:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google's proprietary office suite is said to be accessible offline now too (still, files offsite) and with #ODF support http://ur1.ca/51sy4 | Sep 10 00:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Germany Bans Samsung Galaxy Tab; Also Bans All TV Sets, Cars & Drinks http://j.mp/r1cLkG #hypepad #cult #apple | Sep 10 00:52 | |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/swapnilbhartiya/status/112309391897800704 | Sep 10 00:53 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @swapnilbhartiya: Germany Bans Samsung Galaxy Tab; Also Bans All TV Sets, Cars & Drinks http://j.mp/r1cLkG @schestowitz | Sep 10 00:53 |
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schestowitz | fruityware | Sep 10 00:53 |
schestowitz | oh, that might be a nice one for use to look into, _Goblin http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/493974:podcasting-from-wordpress | Sep 10 01:00 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FreeBSD 9.0 Beta 2 screenshots [img] http://ur1.ca/51t29 | Sep 10 01:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !tzaf identizens (should have done this half an hour ago) | Sep 10 01:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unnecessarily sensationalist headline from @phoronix http://ur1.ca/51t5x news is slow these days, but still... | Sep 10 01:04 | |
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schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20103854-94/samsung-were-not-buying-meego/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 | Sep 10 01:04 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] don't dream of electric sheep, @satipera :) | Sep 10 01:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Samsung: We're not buying !MeeGo http://ur1.ca/51t9g #Amazon Should Buy #WebOS http://ur1.ca/51t9h | Sep 10 01:07 | |
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XFaCE | hi schestowitz | Sep 10 01:08 |
schestowitz | hey mate | Sep 10 01:12 |
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XFaCE | schestowitz: The wiki account still has the same name | Sep 10 01:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/9/2011: NASA and Linux, Samsung Not Buying MeeGo http://ur1.ca/51tn6 !techrights | Sep 10 01:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 9/9/2011: NASA and Linux, Samsung Not Buying MeeGo http://ur1.ca/51tn6 #techrights | Sep 10 01:27 | |
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schestowitz | itcarries edit histor | Sep 10 01:28 |
schestowitz | thus cannot be changed | Sep 10 01:28 |
schestowitz | gn | Sep 10 01:28 |
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XFaCE | good night schestowitz, I understand | Sep 10 01:30 |
XFaCE | hi Thistleweb, long time no text-based conversation | Sep 10 01:30 |
ThistleWeb | do I know you? | Sep 10 01:31 |
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GoForbes28 | yes | Sep 10 01:34 |
ThistleWeb | oh | Sep 10 01:35 |
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XFaCE | Thistleweb: Decided a change | Sep 10 01:48 |
XFaCE | A PCLOS review had the guy calling XFCE "Xface", hence the inspiration | Sep 10 01:48 |
XFaCE | lol | Sep 10 01:49 |
XFaCE | Thistleweb: are you going to by on an IM anytime soon? | Sep 10 01:49 |
XFaCE | I find conversations with you quite enlightening | Sep 10 01:49 |
ThistleWeb | I only log onto IM stuff when I arrange a convo | Sep 10 01:57 |
_Goblin | that was a long coffee.... | Sep 10 02:02 |
_Goblin | back again.... | Sep 10 02:02 |
XFaCE | hi _Goblin, you know who I am | Sep 10 02:02 |
XFaCE | Thistleweb: Saturday? | Sep 10 02:02 |
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ThistleWeb | maybe | Sep 10 02:04 |
_Goblin | Yeah.... | Sep 10 02:04 |
_Goblin | I read about 6 lines above | Sep 10 02:04 |
DaemonFC | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/846090 | Sep 10 02:05 |
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XFaCE | Thistleweb: were you going to answer? | Sep 10 02:11 |
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GoForbes28 | _Goblin: It's me | Sep 10 02:11 |
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ThistleWeb | <ThistleWeb> maybe | Sep 10 02:11 |
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Ballmer | thats me too | Sep 10 02:11 |
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XFaCE | Thistleweb: Sorry, disconnected before I got your message; bad internet | Sep 10 02:12 |
XFaCE | _Goblin: It makes perfect sense now! | Sep 10 02:12 |
ThistleWeb | I also hide join / part / rename messages | Sep 10 02:12 |
XFaCE | Seriously though, I am GoForbes28 with a name change | Sep 10 02:12 |
DaemonFC | you forgot DEVELOPERS!!!!! | Sep 10 02:13 |
XFaCE | _Goblin: Ask me a question only I would know. | Sep 10 02:13 |
DaemonFC | easy to spot the fake | Sep 10 02:13 |
_Goblin | Er.... | Sep 10 02:14 |
_Goblin | right....Ive lost the plot.... | Sep 10 02:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Sex, Drugs... And Facebook? Moral Panic Police Blaming Social Networks For Kids Being Kids http://goo.gl/IAGGf #facebook #diaspora | Sep 10 02:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] House passes resolution to give the finger to everyone that died on or responded to 9/11 http://is.gd/ld0WgC | Sep 10 02:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Microsoft online services hit by major failure - http://goo.gl/MD5Sb ---Question is, would anyone notice? ;) #microsoft #windows #fail | Sep 10 02:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] EU Officially Seizes The Public Domain, Retroactively Extends Copyright http://is.gd/2tgqft | Sep 10 02:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Google lawyer dumbs down the !Java case for jurors because Oracle loves to use big words http://is.gd/Xg7Ybr | Sep 10 02:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Well I stuck an HDMI cable from the laptop to a bog standard lcd telly. The result of which is I am not very happy with laptop display. | Sep 10 02:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Even More worrying my working !linux laptop does not appear over HDMI onto the telly. | Sep 10 02:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Interesting. RT gave different dates for both the first and second world war. | Sep 10 02:35 | |
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XFaCE | I missed a lot of good messages didn't I? | Sep 10 02:36 |
DaemonFC | I'm downloading a Fedora 16 nightly with LXDE now | Sep 10 02:37 |
DaemonFC | see if they did any better | Sep 10 02:37 |
XFaCE | LXDE? Ick. Why not XFCE? | Sep 10 02:37 |
DaemonFC | too fat | Sep 10 02:37 |
XFaCE | BS. | Sep 10 02:37 |
DaemonFC | if you use XFCE lately you're only a stone's throw from KDE | Sep 10 02:38 |
DaemonFC | in resource use | Sep 10 02:38 |
XFaCE | As I said before, it;s only because it's bundled with unnessary crap | Sep 10 02:38 |
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XFaCE | Ala GNOME libraries, etc. | Sep 10 02:38 |
DaemonFC | the Ubuntu version is probably not a good reference | Sep 10 02:38 |
ThistleWeb | some xfce distros do make it kinda heavy | Sep 10 02:38 |
DaemonFC | indicators and that software center nonsense | Sep 10 02:38 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @clacke "Michael Hart: Prophet of Abundance" http://ur1.ca/51nfu @glynmoody takes a look back at one of the true pioneers of free kno ... | Sep 10 02:39 | |
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ThistleWeb | yeah xubuntu and the ubuntu based mint xfce are not that far away from gnome | Sep 10 02:39 |
XFaCE | DaemonFC: Xubuntu has gotten better, ever since the Distrowatch story | Sep 10 02:39 |
XFaCE | which compared Debian XFCE and Xubuntu | Sep 10 02:39 |
DaemonFC | which story was that? | Sep 10 02:39 |
XFaCE | !google distrowatch debian xfce xubuntu 8 | Sep 10 02:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Xubuntu 9.04 vs Debian 5.0.1 Xfce | http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php%3Fissue%3D20090427 | Sep 10 02:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - DistroWatch.com: Xubuntu | http://distrowatch.com/xubuntu | Sep 10 02:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Xubuntu vs. Debian Xfce Distrowatch articles (Page 1) - Off Topic ... | http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/2625/xubuntu-vs-debian-xfce-distrowatch-articles/ | Sep 10 02:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Goodbye, Microsoft®: Xubuntu vs. Debian Xfce | http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php%3Fitem.467.9 | Sep 10 02:39 |
ThistleWeb | xubuntu is pretty decent, it's quite heavy though | Sep 10 02:40 |
DaemonFC | http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090504#feature | Sep 10 02:40 |
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XFaCE | ThistleWeb: At least they don't include so many GNOME components or Mono | Sep 10 02:40 |
DaemonFC | this one? | Sep 10 02:40 |
XFaCE | better, but not perfect | Sep 10 02:41 |
XFaCE | yeah | Sep 10 02:41 |
XFaCE | (DaemonFC) | Sep 10 02:41 |
ThistleWeb | the ubuntu based mint does have gnome stuff | Sep 10 02:41 |
XFaCE | Looks like you'll have to Google Cache :S | Sep 10 02:41 |
XFaCE | The mint Xfce debian edition was insane in terms of bloat | Sep 10 02:41 |
ThistleWeb | that's the last LTS mint xfce though, they've switched to debian based | Sep 10 02:41 |
DaemonFC | ouch | Sep 10 02:42 |
XFaCE | I got as far as the live cd | Sep 10 02:42 |
DaemonFC | Xubuntu is a pig | Sep 10 02:42 |
XFaCE | Better now, though not perfect. | Sep 10 02:42 |
ThistleWeb | not sure about that, although the mint menu is a gnome panel applet and about 40mb | Sep 10 02:42 |
XFaCE | I meant in terms of install applications and GNOMe components | Sep 10 02:42 |
ThistleWeb | switch that out and you drastically reduce the bloat | Sep 10 02:42 |
XFaCE | and it include Mono | Sep 10 02:43 |
DaemonFC | well a lot of the GNOME components are even less appealing now | Sep 10 02:43 |
DaemonFC | since they have more GNOME dependencies than ever | Sep 10 02:43 |
DaemonFC | and they all need GTK 3 | Sep 10 02:43 |
XFaCE | ThistleWeb: True, but plain vanilla Debian Testing/Sid can allow me to start off with less to begin with | Sep 10 02:43 |
ThistleWeb | mint is aimed at being user freindly, stuff ready and listening out of the box, not lightweight | Sep 10 02:43 |
ThistleWeb | of course | Sep 10 02:43 |
XFaCE | ThistleWeb: Of course | Sep 10 02:43 |
ThistleWeb | mint is a heavier distro, but that said, they are snappier than they have any right to be | Sep 10 02:44 |
XFaCE | DaemonFC: I looked at a GNOME 3 review. Icky, makes LXDE look good. :) | Sep 10 02:44 |
DaemonFC | GNOME 3 is a ZOMGWTFBBQ | Sep 10 02:44 |
DaemonFC | brb | Sep 10 02:45 |
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XFaCE | ThistleWeb: I can understand the target audience, but the implementation is so Windows 7/Vista, bundle everything | Sep 10 02:45 |
XFaCE | At least with Mint you can actually remove components rather than just simply hide them | Sep 10 02:45 |
ThistleWeb | it does have stuff like bluetooth enabled by default yes | Sep 10 02:45 |
XFaCE | ThistleWeb: It's a good looking distro for sure. | Sep 10 02:46 |
ThistleWeb | I usually work through and disable extra stuff that I don't need | Sep 10 02:46 |
ThistleWeb | ubuntu is the same in that respect | Sep 10 02:46 |
XFaCE | Thistleweb: That can work. I just for once want to start small | Sep 10 02:46 |
ThistleWeb | lots of daemons enabled to detect and do stuff for the average joe, but it all adds up for those who don't need it | Sep 10 02:47 |
XFaCE | ThistleWeb: But not to the level of Arch or Slackware. Let alone Gentoo. :P | Sep 10 02:47 |
ThistleWeb | it's a different audience, in those distros you have to manually add what you need | Sep 10 02:47 |
XFaCE | Yep. Sounds good on paper, but doesn't work for me in practice. | Sep 10 02:48 |
XFaCE | Debian is a nice middle ground | Sep 10 02:48 |
XFaCE | some hand holding, but still quite dynamic | Sep 10 02:48 |
ThistleWeb | bottom line is if you want that functionality, it comes with some resource cost | Sep 10 02:49 |
ThistleWeb | no matter what OS you have | Sep 10 02:49 |
XFaCE | ThistleWeb; Between Mint and Xubuntu though, I think Xubuntu comes closer to the goal of a true spirit XFCE distro | Sep 10 02:49 |
XFaCE | that is easy to use | Sep 10 02:49 |
XFaCE | ThistleWeb: Absolutely | Sep 10 02:50 |
XFaCE | It's a matter of compromises | Sep 10 02:50 |
XFaCE | updating from the command line vs. GUI | Sep 10 02:50 |
XFaCE | etc. | Sep 10 02:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] WikiLeaks Cable dictates Canadian Copyright Law C-32: http://is.gd/JJSRTd #wikileaks #cables #c32 #copyright #wl #copyrightforartists | Sep 10 02:50 | |
ThistleWeb | it's the same idea as a standard install blasted to the HD, or a netinstall that polls your hardware and gives you only what you need | Sep 10 02:50 |
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ThistleWeb | mint has a lot going for it, but it's kinda lost it's way in recent releases | Sep 10 02:51 |
ThistleWeb | it will pull through, but for now it's less than I'd expect | Sep 10 02:51 |
XFaCE | rb | Sep 10 02:51 |
XFaCE | brb | Sep 10 02:51 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @schestowitz: #Germany Bans Samsung Galaxy Tab; Also Bans All TV Sets, Cars & Drinks http://j.mp/r1cLkG #hypepad #cult #apple | Sep 10 02:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @jessenovels FIGHTING FOR A REASON when looking for a reason to live sometimes you look for it in blood & bones wp.me/p8Pv4-lN #poetry | Sep 10 02:57 | |
DaemonFC | I never noticed, but Ubuntu used to have a link to the FSF in Firefox | Sep 10 02:58 |
DaemonFC | they removed it | Sep 10 02:58 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @AntoniaZ !Canada unprepared for Arctic Oil spill Pew Environment grp says http://ur1.ca/51vf4 !cdnpoli #drillbabydrill via @PopeShakey | Sep 10 03:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] change to 224 color tux; have to rebuild entire kernel....on 500 mhz......aren't makefiles supposed to avoid this? | Sep 10 03:07 | |
DaemonFC | I noticed Lancelot takes quit a lot of RAM | Sep 10 03:11 |
DaemonFC | ~40 MB | Sep 10 03:12 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @cwebber @mattl NC = No-Community, ND = No-Dialogue | Sep 10 03:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Typical #USA - !Canada relations? David Frum: Why Bush didn’t mention Canada in 9/20 speech http://ur1.ca/51vls !cdnpoli #taken4granted #war | Sep 10 03:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @jessenovels RED MOON voice actors/comic artist /musicians needed 4 this new project. Locked: Loren Boyer & Kitty Starr @Redmoon_2012 | Sep 10 03:24 | |
DaemonFC | [22:01] <Getty> but he cant just "standard way" shit in your face | Sep 10 03:54 |
DaemonFC | [22:21] <-- marenostrum has left this server (Quit: Leaving). | Sep 10 03:54 |
DaemonFC | [22:50] <DaemonFC> Getty: If someone shits in my face, I want them to do it in a standard way, if they do it in a proprietary way it will really annoy me | Sep 10 03:54 |
DaemonFC | [22:51] <DaemonFC> in fact, call up the ISO, I think I have a few million dollars in bribe money for them | Sep 10 03:54 |
DaemonFC | [22:51] <DaemonFC> we'll get this rammed through | Sep 10 03:54 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Judge Sanctions Copyright Troll Attorney in EFF case for "Staggering Chutzpah" https://eff.org/r.B8H | Sep 10 04:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Spread the word: now that it's been 10 years, it's officially a #PostPost911World. The war on sanity is over! | Sep 10 04:14 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Judge Sanctions Copyright Troll Attorney in EFF case for "Staggering Chutzpah" https://eff.org/r.B8H | Sep 10 04:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff Judge Sanctions Copyright Troll Attorney in EFF case for "Staggering Chutzpah" https://eff.org/r.B8H | Sep 10 04:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "$20,000 Open Textbook Challenge from the Saylor Foundation" - https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/28893 #fb | Sep 10 05:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Biological imperative forces Oscar to increase his pace. He doesn’t catch up exactly..." ... Saturday's !InconstantMoon http://ur1.ca/51woj | Sep 10 05:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah RD: @schestowitz: ♻ @anivar: Oscar-Winning Video Editor ‘Lightworks’ To Land On Linux In December http://t.co/gPshBg8 /cc @nj3ma | Sep 10 05:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah "As long as you have a good browser, your device won't become a brick." > http://nd.gd/wg #web #Apps #opera #mini /cc @nj3ma ... | Sep 10 05:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah @nj3ma Though this may be of interest to you ... and your fast internet :P > http://nd.gd/wh | Sep 10 05:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] in the future we'll all be using hurd running on top of an exokernel virtualizing plan9 which runs only google uranium | Sep 10 05:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] RT @chrisjrn: Going to #lca2012? Have an interesting developer-related topic to talk about? http://t.co/1bgsmAx #php #python | Sep 10 05:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk !linuxlibre makes minimal changes to make it FSDG-compliant, but we have a patch that adds the 100% GNU/Freedo logo and Kconfig | Sep 10 06:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk look no more: http://fsfla.org/svn/fsfla/software/linux-libre/lemote/gnewsense/branches/3.0/100gnu+freedo.patch :-) | Sep 10 06:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night !identiverse !tzag | Sep 10 07:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] or !tzaf <too tired 2 dent | Sep 10 07:45 | |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/83266314 | Sep 10 08:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Stefan (faither)'s status on Saturday, 10-Sep-11 00:26:07 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Not only do we have weather like in April over here atm but this really smells like a belated April's fools prank -.-' | Sep 10 08:07 |
schestowitz | it is | Sep 10 08:08 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/83267356 | Sep 10 08:08 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Claudio (claudiom)'s status on Saturday, 10-Sep-11 00:43:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz LOL! Nah, more casual than that. No Tux required & margaritas for two & dinner to boot. ;-) | Sep 10 08:08 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/83267562 | Sep 10 08:09 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Saturday, 10-Sep-11 00:47:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Misread as @moronix re fear-mongering that Ubuntu power usage up ~ 50%. It isn't even a slow news day e.g. NBCnews hack | Sep 10 08:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] !tzag !identiverse, good morning to people in or near my timezone :) | Sep 10 08:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] I agree with #Mozilla; precautions and measures are needed for #CA certificate issuance | Sep 10 08:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Chumby preps IPTV set-top that uses Android devices as remote http://ur1.ca/51xhf #linux at all ends | Sep 10 08:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Student facing extradition to US over TV website is bailed - http://tgr.ph/qeZI19 good to see TV-Links case being mentioned #odwyer | Sep 10 09:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sacrificing gratis for libre http://ur1.ca/51xjm #foss #freedom | Sep 10 09:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @JLBMedia #BART cops are telling journalists to leave or be arrested...I can't support that. #opBART // #fascism is entrenched in USA now | Sep 10 09:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vanishing Shangri-La - http://bit.ly/p4xZCb really depressing #china #tibet | Sep 10 09:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Unemployed lumberjacks are sawing the legs off chairs because they have nothing better to do." | Sep 10 09:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt ♻ @ @rtaibah: Android to overtake Apple in app downloads | News - Wireless - CNET News http://t.co/aAbZ7aP | Sep 10 09:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Microsoft’s attack on Brazilian national sovereignty: Wikileaks, #ODF and OpenXML - http://bit.ly/qFtrYc more on disgraceful saga | Sep 10 09:17 | |
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schestowitz | re germany https://identi.ca/notice/83291667 | Sep 10 09:21 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 10-Sep-11 08:12:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Yes, but so does a sensible social and education policy. | Sep 10 09:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt ♻ @SenatorSanders: Corporations today are making record profits while their effective tax rate is at or near a 60-year low. | Sep 10 09:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Natural Gas Bombshell: Switching From Coal to Gas Increases Warming for Decades, Has Minimal Benefit Even in 2100 - http://bit.ly/n8v2vd | Sep 10 09:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Monsanto Denies Superinsect Science - http://bit.ly/pbMTYK the usual denial of evolution: maybe its run by creationists? | Sep 10 09:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Entire staff of TechCrunch threatening to commit suicide unless Arrington gets his way, on everything, forever - http://bit.ly/raXaNf ha! | Sep 10 09:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Monsanto Denies Superinsect Science - bit.ly/pbMTYK the usual denial of evolution: maybe it's run by creationists? | Sep 10 09:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Intel Still MeeGos, #Apple Loses Again, #Yahoo Presents 'The Charlie Sheen Show' http://ur1.ca/51xm4 | Sep 10 09:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] You must have a #Klout score of 40 or more to get into this Fashion’s Night Out party - http://tnw.co/oVZyjZ hmm, our reputational future? | Sep 10 09:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody: #Monsanto Denies Superinsect Science - bit.ly/pbMTYK the usual denial of evolution: maybe it's run by creationists? | Sep 10 09:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Soliloquy | Sep 10 09:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If A Kid Grabs Your Camera In The Street And Snaps Some Photos, Who Owns The #Copyright - http://bit.ly/qQx7sN absurd it has to be asked | Sep 10 09:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Tipping Point of Print Quality (Open Source for the win) - http://bit.ly/ofshel the irresistible rise of #RepRap #3dprinters | Sep 10 09:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] AOL Eyes Merger With Yahoo - http://on.mash.to/pFghza AOL-Time-Warner 2.0? truly a disaster made in heaven... | Sep 10 09:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice to see rapid progress with 3d printing. http://blog.reprap.org/2011/09/tipping-point-of-print-quality-open.html #fb | Sep 10 09:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Intel Still MeeGos, #Apple Loses Again, #Yahoo Presents 'The Charlie Sheen Show' http://ur1.ca/51xm4 | Sep 10 09:59 | |
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schestowitz | Stereotypes http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr54sjBIEF1qcwni9o1_500.jpg | Sep 10 10:04 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why should open geospatial data and software be taken seriously? - http://bit.ly/qTi0Fc useful intro #opendata #opengeo | Sep 10 10:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The LazyBoy 6000 [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/fyNUf.jpg | Sep 10 10:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is #Android forking – and does it matter? - http://bit.ly/rgwBvg lots of big moves happening here - notably in #china | Sep 10 10:10 | |
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schestowitz | http://wimp.com/guyscartoon/ | Sep 10 10:14 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “Hiring Was Easy After We Open-sourced Our Code” [ERPNext, Open Source ERP Solution] - http://bit.ly/qw22Hp interesting effect | Sep 10 10:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] LexisNexis open sources code for #Hadoop alternative - http://bit.ly/oeUhqY “We’re now really open source" | Sep 10 10:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Intel Not Selling !MeeGo, Says Manager http://ur1.ca/51xsr | Sep 10 10:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice Portable 3.4.3 available: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/3.4.3/ !libo !tdf | Sep 10 10:19 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Righthaven: We Might Have To Declare Bankruptcy - http://bit.ly/pxiqCN what a bunch of jokers #copyright | Sep 10 10:19 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Index of /libreoffice/portable/3.4.3 .::. Size~: 3.73 KB | Sep 10 10:19 |
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MinceR | geekings | Sep 10 10:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @docufoundation LibreOffice Portable 3.4.3 available: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/3.4.3/ !libo !tdf | Sep 10 10:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] http://www.cablegatesearch.net/search.php?q=kroes+microsoft&sort=1 interesting cables. #justsayin | Sep 10 10:34 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate's cables: Full-text search for “kroes microsoft” .::. Size~: 21.88 KB | Sep 10 10:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] As has been noticed by many I get to the MS desktop and nothing works for a while. #windoze | Sep 10 10:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] We all knew that MSFT would fight hard against ODF. But calling it an un-american standard? Geez. http://homembit.com/2... http://b1t.it/AVT | Sep 10 10:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Applications, Riding High on #Linux http://ur1.ca/51xva "Linux adoption rates in the enterprise have increased considerably." | Sep 10 10:42 | |
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TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - We all knew that MSFT would fight hard against ODF. But… .::. Size~: 43.43 KB | Sep 10 10:42 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @reality: ..Ayah! But really, I thought Ruby was supposed to be able to seduce all with its dynamic, limpid pools of syntactic sexyness? | Sep 10 10:44 | |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/CajunTechie/statuses/112454719049433088 | Sep 10 10:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @CajunTechie: It's just a matter of time I'm afraid. It'll get the axe. RT @schestowitz: #Intel Not Selling #MeeGo, Says Manager http://t.co/Cp7c8Bf | Sep 10 10:47 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Moving around in Metro 2033 does not feel good. I will investigate further. | Sep 10 11:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When you realise competition is shite, cooperate or buy a politician. #politics | Sep 10 11:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @satipera When you realise competition is shite, cooperate or buy a politician. #politics | Sep 10 11:15 | |
MinceR | http://redd.it/kalft | Sep 10 11:16 |
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MinceR | hm, that bot used to be able to handle short reddit urls | Sep 10 11:16 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My laptop transformer gets so hot that I do not like to leave it horizontal. This involves slotting it vertically into polystyrene. | Sep 10 11:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] I hate it when this happens | Sep 10 11:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @reality @joshix Shut your cavernously incurvated face. | Sep 10 11:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] [ #PHOTO ] Free #Software in #Romania: "Informatica la Castel" Summer School http://tinyurl.com/3gwtjeq #gnu #linux #egovt #foss #microsoft | Sep 10 11:32 | |
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iophk | http://homembit.com/2011/09/microsofts-attack-on-brazilian-national-sovereignty-wikileaks-microsoft-odf-and-openxml.html | Sep 10 11:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Eye candy. | Sep 10 11:37 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft’s attack on Brazilian national sovereignty: Wikileaks, Microsoft, ODF and OpenXML | void life(void) .::. Size~: 26.1 KB | Sep 10 11:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @danishka LibreOffice Portable 3.4.3 available: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/3.4.3/ !libo !tdf | Sep 10 11:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Applications, Riding High on #Linux http://ur1.ca/51xva "Linux adoption rates in the enterprise have increased considera ... | Sep 10 11:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jwildeboer We all knew that MSFT would fight hard against ODF. But calling it an un-american standard? Geez. http://homembit.com/2.. ... | Sep 10 11:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Intel Not Selling !MeeGo, Says Manager http://ur1.ca/51xsr | Sep 10 11:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] AP review finds no threatened US State Department informants http://t.co/3mMhPBE | Sep 10 11:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody AOL Eyes Merger With Yahoo - http://on.mash.to/pFghza AOL-Time-Warner 2.0? truly a disaster made in heaven... | Sep 10 11:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Cables point to Indonesian State Intelligence role in murder of human rights campaigner http://t.co/XMLpEHA | Sep 10 12:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] feverish | Sep 10 12:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Können bitte alle Konzertbesucher eine Wunderkerzenapp installieren? So retro-mässig? Euer Geblitze und Handyhochhalt... http://b1t.it/AW1 | Sep 10 12:17 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Können bitte alle Konzertbesucher eine Wunderkerzenapp… .::. Size~: 37.93 KB | Sep 10 12:17 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cablegate2 and the Records Continuum http://t.co/MmR8wJg | Sep 10 12:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Home office is paying Afghans to produce poppies. Sensible intermediate measure but it will not go down well with some. | Sep 10 12:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Howdy! | Sep 10 12:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !capitalism is killing nationalism but there could be a backlash. | Sep 10 12:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Old politicians never die they become well paid lobbyists. #corruption | Sep 10 12:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks affect in Kashmir | Tehelka http://t.co/ATrGMpz | Sep 10 12:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 10th anniversary of 3,000 people being killed. Small beer compared to what NATO does. | Sep 10 12:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Some arse on the telly. "It is very good than Bin Laden is dead" | Sep 10 12:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "The Europeans and other left people" | Sep 10 12:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nice one via +Foo Haa - http://www.microsoft.ba - made me LOL. | Sep 10 12:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I hear so much **** on the telly maybe the best place for it is the bathroom. | Sep 10 13:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Senseo + Nicotine + Sun == quite nice. | Sep 10 13:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: US lobbied against breastfeeding in the Philippines http://t.co/YyZTTuF | ABSCBNews #news | Sep 10 13:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Informatica la Castel" Free Software Summer School, 2011 edition, #Romania - http://bit.ly/oXC3eS this looks fun... | Sep 10 13:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The final UN declaration on NCDs - http://bit.ly/pc5v30 US "would have rather walked away than concede any ground on intellectual property" | Sep 10 13:17 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BMJ Group blogs: BMJ » Blog Archive » Deborah Cohen: The final declaration for the UN summit on NCDs .::. Size~: 53.28 KB | Sep 10 13:17 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @satipera @davidmarsden Fuck off you twat. | Sep 10 13:19 | |
schestowitz | iophk: yes, I wrote about it | Sep 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | today at the gym | Sep 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | 4 new posts coming | Sep 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | he actually said I was the first one to know about his post )Jomar) | Sep 10 13:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #Google uses its #FacebookPlus service to catalogue people's real names and connections, does that make Google a sovereign country? | Sep 10 13:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] @wikileaks2 Problem with breastfeeding is no middle man gets a cut. 99-year nipple leases would allow us all to profit from the bust boom. | Sep 10 13:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WikiLeaks: US lobbied against breastfeeding in the Philippines - http://bit.ly/nFLEjt heartwarming stuff (v @jmcest @wikileaks) | Sep 10 13:24 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks cable: US lobbied vs breastfeeding in the Philippines | ABS-CBN News | Latest Philippine Headlines, Breaking News, Video, Analysis, Features .::. Size~: 48.71 KB | Sep 10 13:24 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody: WikiLeaks: US lobbied against breastfeeding in the Philippines - http://bit.ly/nFLEjt heartwarming stuff (v @jmcest ) | Sep 10 13:25 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks cable: US lobbied vs breastfeeding in the Philippines | ABS-CBN News | Latest Philippine Headlines, Breaking News, Video, Analysis, Features .::. Size~: 48.71 KB | Sep 10 13:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @freemjd Problem with breastfeeding is no middle man gets a cut. 99-year nipple leases would allow us all to profit from the bust boom. | Sep 10 13:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google will use Zagat's (so you don't have to) - Computerworld http://bit.ly/o67r0E | Sep 10 13:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Huh....Facebook notifications show up a lot sooner on an iPhone app than by email, especially during times of heavy usage | Sep 10 13:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AP review finds no threatened WikiLeaks sources http://ur1.ca/51yh6 well, then, let the floodgates open. #cablegate | Sep 10 13:29 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google will use Zagat's (so you don't have to) - Computerworld .::. Size~: 129.95 KB | Sep 10 13:29 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks: Cables point to Indonesian State Intelligence role in murder of human rights campaigner http://t.co/XMLpEHA | Sep 10 13:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 9/11: The day we lost our privacy and power - http://bit.ly/pg5PUd how we were tricked into giving up our liberty; maybe time to get it back | Sep 10 13:34 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Truth out... http://ur1.ca/51yhi | Sep 10 13:34 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 9/11: The day we lost our privacy and power • The Register .::. Size~: 30.85 KB | Sep 10 13:34 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @davidgerard: After 10 years, the 9/11 Truthers finally figure out the Pentagon was hit by a plane. Well done. http://t.co/oIjdAEL | Sep 10 13:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody: 9/11: The day we lost our privacy and power - http://bit.ly/pg5PUd how we were tricked into giving up our liberty... | Sep 10 13:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dissapointing, @AjEnglish ♻ @wikileaks: Al Jazeera head agreed to remove website content secretly for US http://t.co/kjOZYNp | Sep 10 13:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Carol Bartz: Her Job is Done http://ur1.ca/51yk1 #yahoo #nokia #novell #microsoft #elop #hovsepian #mole #search #antitrust | Sep 10 13:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Carol Bartz: Her Job is Done http://ur1.ca/51yk1 #google #android #linux #suse #novell #apple #entryism #bartz | Sep 10 13:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Al Jazeera head agreed to remove website content secretly for US http://t.co/kjOZYNp | Sep 10 13:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2011 Patent ‘Reform’: Change We Can’t Believe in http://ur1.ca/51ymb #swpats #uspto #reform #apple #android #linux #embargo #germany | Sep 10 14:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] 2011 Patent ‘Reform’: Change We Can’t Believe in http://ur1.ca/51ymb #obama #kappos #monopoly #protectionism #blockade #lipstickOnAPig | Sep 10 14:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Turkey may have purged the Armenian holocaust archives: http://t.co/XRxFZrx | Sep 10 14:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Cablegate Makes Considerable Difference in IT http://ur1.ca/51ynw #wlfind #brazil #odf #ooxml | Sep 10 14:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate Makes Considerable Difference in IT http://ur1.ca/51ynw !wikileaks #diplomacy #us #microsoft #corruption #openxml #opendocument | Sep 10 14:15 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/83307939 | Sep 10 14:15 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate Makes Considerable Difference in IT | Techrights .::. Size~: 92.44 KB | Sep 10 14:15 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 10-Sep-11 12:48:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz That was a while ago. | Sep 10 14:15 |
schestowitz | Yahoo CEO firing ^ | Sep 10 14:15 |
schestowitz | was a while back, but the commentary is not intended to be news | Sep 10 14:16 |
iophk | Yahoo had a mole place at the top after the takeover of the board | Sep 10 14:17 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The film "Gangs of New York" is a model for !capitalism. | Sep 10 14:17 | |
schestowitz | Yes, Icahn tossed Yang out | Sep 10 14:17 |
schestowitz | And sort of bragged about it | Sep 10 14:17 |
schestowitz | Then Susan Decker (IIRC) was a candidate for taking his place | Sep 10 14:18 |
schestowitz | But she was too much on Yang's side | Sep 10 14:18 |
schestowitz | All along | Sep 10 14:18 |
schestowitz | So they had to bring a Microsoft partner from the outside | Sep 10 14:18 |
schestowitz | They got one from autodesk | Sep 10 14:18 |
schestowitz | Icahn was happy | Sep 10 14:18 |
schestowitz | Microsoft signed a Yahoo dea | Sep 10 14:18 |
schestowitz | ANd Yahoo died | Sep 10 14:18 |
schestowitz | But Yahoo climbed intially | Sep 10 14:18 |
schestowitz | Made money for the raider | Sep 10 14:18 |
schestowitz | Who killed the company for profit and for Ballmer | Sep 10 14:19 |
schestowitz | So both camps were happy.. the two raiders | Sep 10 14:19 |
schestowitz | Too bad for the FOSSer who worked in Yahoo | Sep 10 14:19 |
schestowitz | Like Jeremy. | Sep 10 14:19 |
schestowitz | They had some famous FOSS staff | Sep 10 14:19 |
iophk | Which Jeremy? | Sep 10 14:19 |
schestowitz | Projects too | Sep 10 14:19 |
schestowitz | Some Russian -ish surname | Sep 10 14:19 |
iophk | Which FOSS projects were most important there? | Sep 10 14:19 |
schestowitz | can't recall it | Sep 10 14:20 |
iophk | IIRC there was a lot of work on PHP | Sep 10 14:20 |
schestowitz | Yahoo had zimbra | Sep 10 14:20 |
schestowitz | Now it's owned by Microsofters | Sep 10 14:20 |
schestowitz | And they do nothing with it | Sep 10 14:20 |
schestowitz | it's competiting with Outlook, it would pay off for them to shoot it in the head | Sep 10 14:20 |
schestowitz | also competes with exchange | Sep 10 14:21 |
schestowitz | and by extension windows 'server' | Sep 10 14:21 |
iophk | Zimbra has the name recognition. Too bad | Sep 10 14:21 |
iophk | otherwise Kolab and Citadel are better. | Sep 10 14:21 |
schestowitz | Yahoo hosted my geocities site | Sep 10 14:21 |
schestowitz | it's dead now | Sep 10 14:21 |
iophk | Citadel is getting more attention lately | Sep 10 14:21 |
schestowitz | how will flickr end? | Sep 10 14:22 |
iophk | Is flickr owned by Yahoo? | Sep 10 14:22 |
schestowitz | yes | Sep 10 14:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: We really slaughtered them! - Turkish diplomat after reading secret Armenian archives http://t.co/Q9xj4oL | Sep 10 14:30 | |
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amarsh04 | schestowitz, have you submitted any Cablegate stories to groklaw.net? | Sep 10 14:31 |
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wow | Sep 10 14:31 | |
http://homembit.com/2011/09/microsofts-attack-on-brazilian-national-sovereignty-wikileaks-microsoft-odf-and-openxml.html | Sep 10 14:32 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft’s attack on Brazilian national sovereignty: Wikileaks, Microsoft, ODF and OpenXML | void life(void) .::. Size~: 27.59 KB | Sep 10 14:32 |
" The first question that I leave here is on how many other countries that voted NO to OpenXML the same kind of initiative also happened, and how much of these countries “have accepted” an eventual intervention by the U.S. government. ... the general line of argumentation used here in Brazil, the national technical decision is presented as being an initiative against the Intellectual Property Rights (IPR), and one of the things that | Sep 10 14:33 | |
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but for sure we know the US government threatened Brazil with trade sanctions over OOXML and ODF, and described ODF as anti-American. | Sep 10 14:34 | |
Diablo-D3 | dude | Sep 10 14:36 |
Diablo-D3 | documents like that in xml are anti-american | Sep 10 14:36 |
Diablo-D3 | I mean, you'd think it'd be an actual legitimate use of xml and all | Sep 10 14:36 |
Diablo-D3 | but anyone who says openoffice isnt just as shitty as new ms offices is lying | Sep 10 14:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Wikileaks: Stepping Out of Ottoman Archives, Diplomat Says ‘We Really Slaughtered Them!’ - http://bit.ly/osm9aP if only they could admit it | Sep 10 14:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "We all knew that MSFT would fight hard against ODF. But calling it an un-american standard? Geez. http:/... http://b1t.it/AYg | Sep 10 14:37 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wikileaks: Stepping Out of Ottoman Archives, Diplomat Says ‘We Really Slaughtered Them!’ | Armenian Weekly .::. Size~: 57.95 KB | Sep 10 14:37 |
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Diablo-D3 | if anything, this proves foss won | Sep 10 14:37 |
Diablo-D3 | we can make shit just as bloated as they do :D | Sep 10 14:37 |
nothing is as shitty as having to use Vista/Windows 7 just to be able to use Microsoft's really crappy Office program. Open Office is nowhere near as bloated. I use version 3.0 every day and it works just fine. | Sep 10 14:38 | |
More from Brazil, " I am greatly angered to see Microsoft claims that the Brazilian government was pressuring ABNT (Brazilian National Body and Standards Organization) to adopt ODF. Microsoft was a member of the ABNT’s committee at the time, and I have here the minutes of a meeting where the company agrees to open the ODF adoption process in Brazil. I was responsible for that process inside the ABNT and rely on the collaboration of var | Sep 10 14:38 | |
Diablo-D3 | I havent been impressed with OO | Sep 10 14:38 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Cost of Using #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/51yqz #hotmail #twitter #azure #office365 #bpos | Sep 10 14:39 | |
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The lesson to learn there is to kick Microsoft off your technical committees because they are acting in bad faith, always. | Sep 10 14:39 | |
Diablo-D3 | the only reason I have it installed is to handle the wayward ms documents that get set my way | Sep 10 14:39 |
Diablo-D3 | twitter: not really | Sep 10 14:39 |
Diablo-D3 | why would ms be on a technical committee anyhow? | Sep 10 14:40 |
Diablo-D3 | they havent had anyone with a clue working for them for years | Sep 10 14:40 |
iophk | The lesson is to shut out MS from everything because all they do is in bad faith. | Sep 10 14:40 |
Diablo-D3 | iophk: thats somewhat disingenious to begin with | Sep 10 14:40 |
iophk | It's like Charlie Brown and that football | Sep 10 14:40 |
Diablo-D3 | the lesson is to quit talking about microsoft outside of historical contexts, they are no longer relevant and old hat. | Sep 10 14:41 |
schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/Ueaax.jpg | Sep 10 14:41 |
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Diablo-D3 | its kinda funny | Sep 10 14:41 |
Diablo-D3 | Ive been living in a post-microsoft world longer than I've been living in a post-9/11 world. | Sep 10 14:42 |
iophk | http://www.h-online.com/open/features/We-won-and-we-didn-t-notice-a-conversation-with-Jeremy-Allison-of-Samba-1334992.html | Sep 10 14:42 |
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Diablo-D3 | iophk: yeah I read that | Sep 10 14:42 |
Diablo-D3 | hes right | Sep 10 14:42 |
Diablo-D3 | although I kinda feel sorry for the samba project | Sep 10 14:42 |
Diablo-D3 | who needs samba when you have sshfs ;) | Sep 10 14:42 |
iophk | SSHFS rocks | Sep 10 14:43 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/83309922 | Sep 10 14:43 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 10-Sep-11 13:19:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I thought it unlikely I had heard something before you. | Sep 10 14:43 |
iophk | Samba is for backwards compatibility with legacy clients | Sep 10 14:43 |
Diablo-D3 | yeah, but WHAT legacy clients? | Sep 10 14:43 |
Diablo-D3 | I can run sshfs on windows too. | Sep 10 14:43 |
iophk | Didn't know that. Cool | Sep 10 14:44 |
Diablo-D3 | the thing with sshfs isnt that its secure, infact if I could turn off encryption for cross LAN stuff I would | Sep 10 14:44 |
amarsh04 | twitter, I forwarded that link to the groklaw News Picks suggestions | Sep 10 14:44 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] The Cost of Using Microsoft http://ur1.ca/51yqz #windows #server #FogComputing #downtime | Sep 10 14:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Don't upset the driver ahead [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/iyHhv.jpg | Sep 10 14:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: Al Jazeera head agreed to remove website content secretly for US http://t.co/kjOZYNp | Sep 10 14:44 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "The dollar is the leper with most fingers" #economics | Sep 10 14:44 | |
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Diablo-D3 | the fact is it takes zero tweaking for it to saturate gigabit. | Sep 10 14:44 |
Diablo-D3 | samba with zero tweaking no matter what the host and client are tops out around 12mbps | Sep 10 14:44 |
Diablo-D3 | and nfs also has that problem PLUS its a horror to work with | Sep 10 14:45 |
Diablo-D3 | and Ive never been able to get nfsv4 to run | Sep 10 14:45 |
Diablo-D3 | and afs is absolute fucking overkill | Sep 10 14:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks: WikiLeaks: Turkey may have purged the Armenian holocaust archives: http://t.co/XRxFZrx | Sep 10 14:45 | |
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amarsh04 | nfs took me a while | Sep 10 14:46 |
iophk | Samba has to follow the old M$ protocols and the recent one is designed to make a mess and be hard to work with | Sep 10 14:46 |
Diablo-D3 | yeah, but gotta admit they pulled it off | Sep 10 14:48 |
iophk | Diablo-D3: AFS rocks, but you're right, in most SMB cases, it's overkill | Sep 10 14:48 |
Diablo-D3 | from everyone I know whats stuck using samba in corp world, samaba has the host usually outperforms everything windows has | Sep 10 14:48 |
schestowitz | [14:31] <amarsh04> schestowitz, have you submitted any Cablegate stories to groklaw.net? | Sep 10 14:48 |
schestowitz | no | Sep 10 14:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] LMAO "20% of rioters were gang members, near 100% of serious fraud in the last few years was committed by bankers" | Sep 10 14:49 | |
iophk | schestowitz: some of the patent-related Cablegate stories could be relevant for Groklaw | Sep 10 14:49 |
Diablo-D3 | "So, clearly, 20% of the rioters should eat the bankers." | Sep 10 14:50 |
amarsh04 | twitter's link was worth forwarding, given it was written by someone on the ground at the Brazil OOXML standards process | Sep 10 14:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Given that Microsoft OOXML led to anti-American sentiments across the world, can we call #ooxml "anti-American"? | Sep 10 14:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Meet The PayPal 14, The Alleged Scary Face Of #Anonymous Incarnate http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/anonymous/the-paypal-14-896451 | Sep 10 14:52 | |
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Wow, this blog from 2009 is equally explosive. http://homembit.com/2009/10/openxml-what-i-havent-told-yet-about-the-brm.html | Sep 10 14:53 | |
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schestowitz | [14:49] <iophk> schestowitz: some of the patent-related Cablegate stories could be relevant for Groklaw | Sep 10 14:53 |
schestowitz | Maybe you should recommend them? | Sep 10 14:53 |
schestowitz | I don't want to do a sort of self-linkage there | Sep 10 14:53 |
schestowitz | Webbink and I get along, but I don't want to just show up in their forums just to drop a link | Sep 10 14:54 |
Everyone knows that OOXML is a sham but the insider perspective from Brazil is really damning. | Sep 10 14:54 | |
schestowitz | Microsft is corruption | Sep 10 14:54 |
amarsh04 | I slogged through a lot of the ooxml stories on groklaw.net, and this later clarification from the cables is worth noting | Sep 10 14:54 |
schestowitz | So I doubt it would surprise anyone here | Sep 10 14:54 |
schestowitz | LOL "it was my idea" | Sep 10 14:54 |
schestowitz | What? Monopoly? Corruption? | Sep 10 14:54 |
-> The end result is that we couldn’t present our proposal, and the whole world missed the opportunity to hear from the mouth of ECMA delegates: “We didn’t study the compatibility of OpenXML and Microsoft’s legacy binary format.” Anyone out there have any doubt about the outcome of the vote, if this discussion had taken place? | Sep 10 14:55 | |
schestowitz | No, thanks, not my idea at all. And those whose idea it was should be locked up. | Sep 10 14:55 |
schestowitz | Jomar said I was the first person he informed of this post | Sep 10 14:55 |
yes, amarsh04, I agree | Sep 10 14:55 | |
schestowitz | in twitter | Sep 10 14:55 |
schestowitz | I remember what Microsoft mob attacked his blog | Sep 10 14:55 |
schestowitz | Alex Brown and his lackey from Denmark | Sep 10 14:56 |
schestowitz | And they also tried to attack my character there | Sep 10 14:56 |
schestowitz | But Jomar defended me | Sep 10 14:56 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: mail Mark or Pamela about it | Sep 10 14:56 |
schestowitz | I don't want to link to myself | Sep 10 14:57 |
schestowitz | I onyl covered it last week after Jiomar had passed me a link | Sep 10 14:57 |
the battle is still on because Microsoft is still trying to shove their phoney OOXML on everyone. | Sep 10 14:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] SAP pleads guilty for downloading Oracle software, would have never happened if they used FOSS http://is.gd/S0VLG4 !fsf !java | Sep 10 14:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Inside Netflix's WebKit-Based UI For TV Devices http://is.gd/kyuoWc | Sep 10 14:57 | |
schestowitz | It hasn't gone mainstream yet | Sep 10 14:57 |
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schestowitz | Glyn Moody linked to it today | Sep 10 14:57 |
schestowitz | And Jamie Love did coverage last week | Sep 10 14:57 |
schestowitz | But no major online news iste covered it | Sep 10 14:57 |
schestowitz | Maybe we run through these too fast | Sep 10 14:57 |
no Microsoft funded news will cover the issue | Sep 10 14:58 | |
I don't think you are going too fast with the cables. You are giving them the attention they need. | Sep 10 14:58 | |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/83311674 | Sep 10 14:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 10-Sep-11 13:51:40 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz How can the actions of a company lead people to be against the country where the company is located? | Sep 10 14:59 |
schestowitz | The country's government sometimes acts as a butler for that company | Sep 10 14:59 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wood5y/status/112523398504128514 | Sep 10 14:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @wood5y: "It’s not just that Microsoft is an abusive monopolist; its products are inferior too and it shows." http://t.co/RLeg8Hg (via @schestowitz) | Sep 10 14:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 10 14:59 |
Depth of coverage will come when people with the correct background and perspective comment on them | Sep 10 14:59 | |
schestowitz | on Monday I won't cover any, I'm in London all day | Sep 10 14:59 |
schestowitz | Maybe I'll take some cables to the train to work on | Sep 10 15:00 |
US Government favoritism of Microsoft is an outrage for every other US company, both those with competing software and those forced to use Microsoft's shit by government selection of non free garbage. | Sep 10 15:01 | |
That's something pointed out here too http://homembit.com/2011/09/microsofts-attack-on-brazilian-national-sovereignty-wikileaks-microsoft-odf-and-openxml.html | Sep 10 15:02 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/09/apple_purges_diginotar_certificates/ | Sep 10 15:02 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How kind of #apple to put fruity loopy marketing aside for a day and actually address technical problems http://ur1.ca/51yu6 | Sep 10 15:05 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Huawei-Impulse-4G-and-Kyocera-Milano-/?kc=rss | Sep 10 15:06 |
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schestowitz | I wonder if Kyocera-Mita only pays MSFT for FAT | Sep 10 15:07 |
iophk | "Maybe we run through these too fast" — there's no easy way to roll back and see old posts | Sep 10 15:07 |
schestowitz | Quite likely | Sep 10 15:07 |
amarsh04 | I've emailed pj2 at groklaw dot net schestowitz | Sep 10 15:07 |
schestowitz | iophk: there is | Sep 10 15:07 |
iophk | It's not obvious | Sep 10 15:07 |
schestowitz | the side bar has 50 latest posts lisred | Sep 10 15:07 |
schestowitz | And you can go to next page | Sep 10 15:07 |
schestowitz | The wiki lists latest 15 IIRC | Sep 10 15:07 |
schestowitz | then again, there are many cables | Sep 10 15:08 |
schestowitz | I don't want to slow it down too much | Sep 10 15:08 |
schestowitz | In fact, let me do a triplet now.. | Sep 10 15:08 |
iophk | I'm talking about being able to browse back an arbitrarily long time into the past | Sep 10 15:08 |
schestowitz | News is slow today | Sep 10 15:08 |
iophk | You're making news. | Sep 10 15:08 |
schestowitz | iophk: how would you like it to be listed? | Sep 10 15:08 |
schestowitz | There's already search and archives pages | Sep 10 15:08 |
iophk | Just being able to go backwards like in any search engine results list | Sep 10 15:09 |
schestowitz | Let's see what the US/MSFT say about Neelie | Sep 10 15:09 |
iophk | or being able to see previous "days" like in /. | Sep 10 15:09 |
schestowitz | /. became a relic | Sep 10 15:09 |
schestowitz | tried to reinvent itself | Sep 10 15:09 |
schestowitz | as web 2.0 and css | Sep 10 15:09 |
schestowitz | didn't work | Sep 10 15:09 |
iophk | Yes, it is lame | Sep 10 15:10 |
schestowitz | Also added Microsoft and Apple topics | Sep 10 15:10 |
schestowitz | Readers lost, Malda quits | Sep 10 15:10 |
iophk | M$ doesn't belong on /. | Sep 10 15:10 |
iophk | but that might have been a reason Malda had to quit. | Sep 10 15:10 |
schestowitz | They foolishly though that broadening topics would broaden the audience. Digg.com made the same mistakes | Sep 10 15:10 |
schestowitz | It brought political dogma and trolls in this wat | Sep 10 15:10 |
schestowitz | *way | Sep 10 15:11 |
amarsh04 | back in a moment, restarting gogoc | Sep 10 15:11 |
schestowitz | And the site got diluted around 2007 | Sep 10 15:11 |
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iophk | Kroes is more or less out of the way now with her new job | Sep 10 15:11 |
schestowitz | They daemonise her, still | Sep 10 15:11 |
schestowitz | Ircj lady and all | Sep 10 15:11 |
schestowitz | Majoriras called her "Sentsitive" | Sep 10 15:11 |
schestowitz | I pinged Kroes about it | Sep 10 15:12 |
iophk | Of course, M$ did not like her policies, which were rather good for business otherwise | Sep 10 15:12 |
schestowitz | IIRC, Majoras went to work for P&G | Sep 10 15:12 |
schestowitz | Revolving doors like that.. | Sep 10 15:12 |
schestowitz | And her husband was a conflict of interest | Sep 10 15:12 |
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iophk | What role did her husband have? | Sep 10 15:13 |
amarsh04 | I'd like to have a better (ie IPV6 capable) router and not have to run gogoc | Sep 10 15:14 |
for personal research, use the excellent rss feed. for educational purposes make a wiki page. -> iophk: "Maybe we run through these too fast" — there's no easy way to roll back and see old posts | Sep 10 15:16 | |
iophk | right but the site should support browsing through old posts easily | Sep 10 15:16 |
iophk | there are a lot of work arounds but hacks are ugly and should be unnecessary | Sep 10 15:17 |
The wiki page works well enough and can be linked from current pages. Now is the time to get the news out rather than make a Slashdot mistake. | Sep 10 15:19 | |
It's funny how Groklaw kept chugging along with a really old version of slashcode while slashdot itself got lost with modifying display code | Sep 10 15:20 | |
iophk | javascript in web pages sucks | Sep 10 15:21 |
iophk | that's part of what got /. | Sep 10 15:21 |
iophk | Groklaw has not made that mistake | Sep 10 15:21 |
iophk | it still works with real HTML | Sep 10 15:22 |
I think you are right about that. Slashdot's modifications ate a lot of resources and the pages got slow. | Sep 10 15:22 | |
Other changes were worse. They made it harder to search the Firehose and recently have killed the ability to edit older journal entries. | Sep 10 15:23 | |
None of my older journals can be updated now. | Sep 10 15:24 | |
So it is time to move them to Techrights wiki but I don't have the time for that. It's very disruptive. | Sep 10 15:24 | |
Overall, I'm glad I put my time into Techrights rather than continuing on with Slashdot over the last four years. | Sep 10 15:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Blair knew immediately that 9/11 attacks 'changed everything' - http://bit.ly/oUL4tK yes, in terms of his trampling of liberties in the UK | Sep 10 15:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @linuxaria [repost] Roundup on compression programs on !Linux #shell #tar #gzip #xz #bzip2 http://ur1.ca/51yhq | Sep 10 15:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: Expecting Civilian Deaths, US Embassy Approved Deadly Attack on Crowded Haitian Slum, by @Ansel. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http ... | Sep 10 15:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] German Retailers Can Continue To Sell, Restock Galaxy Tab 10.1http://bit.ly/nkSkw7 #android | Sep 10 15:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: US Government Assesses Value of New EU Commission to Itself http://ur1.ca/51z10 #wlfind #eu #europe #government | Sep 10 15:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: Nigerian Supreme Court Justice Ibrahim Kutigi rejected .6m bribe offer from President Obasanjo. #WikiLeaks #Cablgate http ... | Sep 10 15:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: US Government Assesses Value of New EU Commission to Itself http://ur1.ca/51z10 #politics #antitrust #regulation | Sep 10 15:47 | |
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amarsh04 | that link on Brazil and OOXML http://homembit.com/2011/09/microsofts-attack-on-brazilian-national-sovereignty-wikileaks-microsoft-odf-and-openxml.html has already made groklaw newspicks | Sep 10 15:52 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: France armed Cameroon to fight over oil-rich the Bakassi peninsula at the border with Nigeria. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http:/ ... | Sep 10 15:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A whole new way or using !Linux - the name alone is enough to protect against this latest Windows scam http://goo.gl/Jd9eU | Sep 10 15:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] don't suggest this though, re:upgrades. it breaks things enough going from stable to stable... | Sep 10 15:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: European Commission Worried About Microsoft’s Browser Ballot Screen Being Inappropriate http://ur1.ca/51z3t #wlfind #microsoft | Sep 10 16:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: European Commission Worried About Microsoft’s Browser Ballot Screen Being Inappropriate http://ur1.ca/51z3t #antitrust !wl | Sep 10 16:05 | |
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iophk | The "browser ballot" is inappropriate because it does *nothing* to address the bundling of MSIE in all Windows systems | Sep 10 16:06 |
schestowitz | " | Sep 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | (SBU) Oracle stated that the Commission is pressuring it to | Sep 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | divest MySQL as a condition for approval of the merger. Oracle | Sep 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | claims such a divestiture will destroy the merger for two reasons: | Sep 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | 1) Oracle's business case for the merger depends on keeping MySQL to | Sep 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | make the merger economically viable, since Oracle plans to expand | Sep 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | the market for MySQL and its associated support contracts; and (2) | Sep 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | Oracle would be forced to take a huge accounting loss if it sold | Sep 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | MySQL, since it believes that Sun overpaid in paying nearly $1 | Sep 10 16:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] European Commission Worried About Microsoft’s Browser Ballot Screen Being Inappropriate http://ur1.ca/51z3t #internetexplorer #monopoly | Sep 10 16:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: Human Rights First: Gray Companies Enabled Sudan Atrocities. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http://t.co/6J4FAUg | Sep 10 16:07 | |
schestowitz | billion for MySQL in 2008, and it would only be able to sell it for | Sep 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | a fraction of this sum. | Sep 10 16:07 |
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schestowitz | [15:20] <twitter> It's funny how Groklaw kept chugging along with a really old version of slashcode while slashdot itself got lost with modifying display code | Sep 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | Groklaw uses geeklog | Sep 10 16:07 |
Diablo-D3 | they used to use slashcode iirc | Sep 10 16:08 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: Simba Makoni’s 2008 Zimbabwean presidential bid was in part funded by the UK government. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http://t.co/ ... | Sep 10 16:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: El Faro: El Salvador dejó que al diputado Eliú Martínez se lo llevara Estados Unidos. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http://t.co/ac11Fdw | Sep 10 16:17 | |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/wood5y/status/112525551721381889 | Sep 10 16:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @wood5y: courtesy of @schestowitz, I just discovered a great new disparaging term for the latest IT bandwagon: Fog Computing :) | Sep 10 16:24 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/83312225 | Sep 10 16:25 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 10-Sep-11 14:01:30 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Nice turn of phrase. I withdraw my objection to your previous dent. | Sep 10 16:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Will !Ubuntu Linux Switch to a Monthly Release Cycle asks @noyesk « But why not just make it a rolling release, I ask? http://goo.gl/2y9bC | Sep 10 16:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Competition Commissioner Neelie Kroes Accused of “Undermin[ing] Support for Intellectual Property” in #Microsoft Case http://ur1.ca/51z68 | Sep 10 16:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @carlopiana I wonder about which "IP" they put on it #justasking http://b1t.it/AZi [Google's new language] | Sep 10 16:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Competition Commissioner Neelie Kroes Accused of “Undermining Support for Intellectual Property” in MS Case http://ur1.ca/51z68 #wlfind !wl | Sep 10 16:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Algeria's language crisis; a nation of Tri-Lingual Illiterates - US http://t.co/6E0egBP | Sep 10 16:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Kids do know what they're talking about after all - who knew http://goo.gl/ZkVE2 | Sep 10 16:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "The judge basically said only Apple is allowed to sell thin square tablets with round edges. That's just insane" http://goo.gl/SWmxv | Sep 10 16:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell Congress: Pass an emergency #jobs bill, not #Medicare cuts! http://bit.ly/oFx8sm | Sep 10 16:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google Issues Gmail Security Advice Following SSL Attack from News ≈ Packet Storm http://goo.gl/5EJ56 | Sep 10 16:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning !Identiverse !tzag | Sep 10 16:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Chumbawamba 'outraged' after Ukip's Nigel Farrage adopts 'Tubthumping' from NME News http://goo.gl/0yF9e | Sep 10 16:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] third time today gnome-shell crashed | Sep 10 16:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Director of MS Netherlands Thought an Honorary Doctorate to Bill Gates Would Appease the Competition Commissioner http://ur1.ca/51zaf | Sep 10 16:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Director of MS Netherlands Thought an Honorary Doctorate to Bill Gates Would Appease the Competition http://ur1.ca/51zaf #wlfind !wl | Sep 10 16:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !LibreOffice Draw -- my new favorite application from Steven Rosenberg http://goo.gl/ofRXH | Sep 10 16:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Something tells me that tomorrow's flight SCQ - MAD - DUS won't be much fun. Perhaps flying on 9/11 + 10 wasn't a great idea after all. | Sep 10 16:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "President Olusegun Obasanjo offered Justice Ibrahim Kutigi $1.6m bribe" http://ur1.ca/51zb3 | Sep 10 16:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So cool. #stunning http://www.youtube.com/user/UntitledTitle#p/c/F6DF06BAB94531A1/10/goVuP5TJIUU | Sep 10 16:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] biPartisan support for America Invents Act b/c stifling innovation bolsters corporate monopolies http://ur1.ca/51zab !copyright | Sep 10 16:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Makoni party funded by UK: WikiLeaks http://ur1.ca/51zba installing leaders. #imperialism | Sep 10 16:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Makoni party funded by UK: WikiLeaks http://ur1.ca/51zba installing leaders. #imperialism | Sep 10 16:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: Arctic ice at lowest recorded levels. Corporations blocking climate law (!!). What do? http://t.co/VOR7XyC via @greenpeaceuk | Sep 10 17:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Director of MS Netherlands Thought an Honorary Doctorate to Bill Gates Would Appease the Competition Commissioner http:/ ... | Sep 10 17:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hopefully a gimmick and not a real cat [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/jUCR8.jpg | Sep 10 17:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Samsung Beats Apple In Europe, Android Leads The Market http://ur1.ca/51zdi #linux triumph was inevitable. | Sep 10 17:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] German Retailers can continue To Sell, Retock Galaxy Tab 10.1 http://ur1.ca/51zfc careful of German #mobbyists | Sep 10 17:24 | |
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schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/83320434 | Sep 10 17:30 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | @Marti van Lin (ml2mst)'s status on Saturday, 10-Sep-11 16:17:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: Mrs. Kroes is a member of the Bilderberg group, so what else did you expected? NL Gov and Educational system is p0wn3d by Vole | Sep 10 17:30 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/83320723 | Sep 10 17:30 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Marti van Lin (ml2mst)'s status on Saturday, 10-Sep-11 16:21:22 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: Don't you remember my exitement about all the Dutch FOSS initiatives? Vole cried foul and bribed entire NL | Sep 10 17:30 |
schestowitz | any documents to show this? | Sep 10 17:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Cablegate teaches people about #Microsoft #corruption http://ur1.ca/51zgh | Sep 10 17:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "...make a good complaint to the US Justice Dept. that Microsoft is violating the foreign corrupt practices act." http://ur1.ca/51zgm | Sep 10 17:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @edythemighty How to open !books http://ur1.ca/51zfj | Sep 10 17:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz "...make a good complaint to the US Justice Dept. that Microsoft is violating the foreign corrupt practices act." http:/ ... | Sep 10 17:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz #Cablegate teaches people about #Microsoft #corruption http://ur1.ca/51zgh | Sep 10 17:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Next thing I need to figure out with !Fedora 15 is how to edit the !Gnome 3 menu (want to add some cli shortcuts) | Sep 10 17:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Think I have the the !Gnome 3 menu thing sort with !Fedora 15 - I needed to install alacarte (clever name) | Sep 10 17:42 | |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ml2mst/status/112564747169300480 | Sep 10 17:45 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @ml2mst: @schestowitz Hold on a minute please, I think it is documented on ether wikipedia or wikileaks. | Sep 10 17:45 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/112564820536066048 | Sep 10 17:45 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz Just think... if enough people complain, the US gov't will have to hire more people to deal with it #jobcreation ;) | Sep 10 17:45 |
schestowitz | #jobcreation is euphemism for "let companies run the nation" | Sep 10 17:45 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ml2mst/status/112565332765450241 | Sep 10 17:46 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @ml2mst: @schestowitz: yep, hold on another seccond please... | Sep 10 17:46 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ml2mst/status/112566015103205378 | Sep 10 17:46 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @ml2mst: @schestowitz: OK: "roes attended conferences organized by the Bilderberg Group in 2005 and 2006." http://t.co/NckroGi | Sep 10 17:46 |
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schestowitz | I knew that and Techrights covered it | Sep 10 17:46 |
schestowitz | Steve Jobs Dead? No, Just a CBS Tweet Gone Bad http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/211661/20110910/steve-jobs-dead-twitter-tweet-cbs-lazar-what-s-trending.htm | Sep 10 17:50 |
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sure, that's where I got it. I thought it was so good that I jumped on here and passed it on right away. -> amarsh04: that link on Brazil and OOXML http://homembit.com/2011/09/microsofts-attack-on-brazilian-national-sovereignty-wikileaks-microsoft-odf-and-openxml.html has already made groklaw newspicks | Sep 10 18:02 | |
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amarsh04 | no worries twitter... glad that PJ had already found and posted it | Sep 10 18:03 |
me too | Sep 10 18:03 | |
the author is well informed. there will, hopefully, be more bombshell realizations like that. | Sep 10 18:04 | |
That's why it's good that Techrights is digging through and publishing the cables. Others should do the same for their area of interest. Eventually the right words will hit the right readers. | Sep 10 18:05 | |
amarsh04 | the whole cablegate affair illustrates the need for more transparency of process to avoid corruption | Sep 10 18:05 |
I knew that Microsoft had a powerful lobby but even I'm shocked by how perverse and pervasive the influence was. | Sep 10 18:06 | |
Even if we accept the flawed view that us diplomatic efforts should push US economic interests, what we see in the cables is a travesty. | Sep 10 18:07 | |
While IBM and Google were building the future, US diplomatic effort was pushing technology from the 90's. | Sep 10 18:09 | |
amarsh04 | my argument is that rather than degregulation we need open competition - ie keep unfair competition laws strong and uniformly applied and let competition work on fair merits | Sep 10 18:09 |
there's enough anti-trust evidence to shut what's left of Microsoft's pieces down, if the US will live up to it's own laws. | Sep 10 18:10 | |
amarsh04 | agreed, but now even what broke up at&t has effectively been reversed | Sep 10 18:10 |
Open spectrum will take care of ATT and that's what people should be working to implement. | Sep 10 18:12 | |
amarsh04 | one of my acquaintances Dr Paul Gardner-Stephen at Flinders University has been doing just that (e.g. mobile handsets communicating between each other without base-stations) | Sep 10 18:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 10/9/2011: Apple Loses to Linux in Europe, MeeGo Not for Sale http://ur1.ca/51ziw | Sep 10 18:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 10/9/2011: Apple Loses to Linux in Europe, MeeGo Not for Sale http://ur1.ca/51ziw !techrights | Sep 10 18:15 | |
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ha ha http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/medianews-righthaven-dumb-idea/ | Sep 10 18:16 | |
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hopefully, they get a big bill for all the trouble they made | Sep 10 18:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz: #Cablegate teaches people about #Microsoft #corruption http://ur1.ca/51zgh | Sep 10 18:17 | |
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amarsh04 | wow, I just checked my email and PJ replied to me nearly an hour ago | Sep 10 18:17 |
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We owe Michael Hart yet another debt of gratitude. PJ writes of him, "PJ: I knew Michael, and it's safe to say I wouldn't have tried to do Groklaw if I had not met him. So, thank you, Michael, for the inspiration. I never met anyone even one byte like him." | Sep 10 18:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Catching up with @larryrusswurm, "Truth In Adverising" appropos for the looming Ontario provincial election http://ur1.ca/51zod | Sep 10 18:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bobjonkman @edythemighty How to open !ebooks (from http://ur1.ca/51zlw ) http://ur1.ca/51zlz | Sep 10 18:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @bobjonkman How to open !ebooks (from http://ur1.ca/51zlw ) http://ur1.ca/51zlz !SelfPub | Sep 10 18:39 | |
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_Goblin | anyone here????? | Sep 10 18:43 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Ubuntu #Linux - About change http://tinyurl.com/3g9bf2j | Sep 10 18:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Doesn’t the bastard sweat at all? Oscar reaches for his non-existent cigarettes again, then realizes what he’s done. " ~ !InconstantMoon !q | Sep 10 18:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Bolton 0-4 Manchester United (still half an hr to play) !mufc | Sep 10 18:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why I love the Internet: I knew about the Vancouver Earthquake from my New Zealand friend @bananabob before my brother living in VCR did :) | Sep 10 18:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] EU Officially Seizes The !PublicDomain, Retroactively Extends !Copyright http://ur1.ca/51mt7 << now *this* is theft | Sep 10 19:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Another hat trick for Wayne Rooney !mufc :) | Sep 10 19:00 | |
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sebsebseb | hi | Sep 10 19:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] should probably get used to emacs-w3m, much ligher than midori | Sep 10 19:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stav TODAY IS THE OLDEST YOU'VE EVER BEEN, YET THE YOUNGEST YOU'LL EVER BE, SO ENJOY THIS DAY WHILE IT LASTS. !silver !q | Sep 10 19:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Eddie Griffin - You can tell them I said it. | Sep 10 19:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] today i saw a beaver .. and three eisvogel (kingfishers) ... soon off to meet some people at the free thinkers conf happening in town | Sep 10 19:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] note to self; file a #patent on #LolPups with the unique part being "with dogs", then sue #LolCats for infringement #brokenpatentsystem | Sep 10 19:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @sixgun Just released: http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/228 | Sep 10 20:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] OK Netlanders I'm off to watching movies CUL8ter ;-) | Sep 10 20:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] isn't "Shock & Awe" the very definition of terrorism? use fear & terror to further a political agenda #WarOnTerror #hypocrisy | Sep 10 20:05 | |
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iophk | Google opened a new data center in Finland | Sep 10 20:10 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] I am not sure what @reality is on right now but I want some! #hugs | Sep 10 20:14 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @trisquel: For testers: #Trisquel 4.5 users can now upgrade to Trisquel 5.0 beta by running "update-manager -d" in the terminal. | Sep 10 20:22 | |
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_Goblin | hello all | Sep 10 20:24 |
schestowitz | Hi, _Goblin | Sep 10 20:24 |
schestowitz | I'll call you tomorrow and on Monday | Sep 10 20:25 |
_Goblin | cool | Sep 10 20:25 |
schestowitz | We need to go to some restaurant somewhere, i'll pay... and we'll have a change to talk about the show and the trolls | Sep 10 20:25 |
_Goblin | not sure how much lag is on my messages....do us a favour.... | Sep 10 20:25 |
schestowitz | sms messages? | Sep 10 20:25 |
_Goblin | eh? | Sep 10 20:26 |
schestowitz | oh | Sep 10 20:26 |
schestowitz | irc messages | Sep 10 20:26 |
schestowitz | it's cool that IRC is quite so versatile and accessible from anything | Sep 10 20:26 |
_Goblin | here...lets see how realistic this lag is.... | Sep 10 20:26 |
schestowitz | test | Sep 10 20:26 |
schestowitz | ping | Sep 10 20:27 |
_Goblin | respond back with "Pong" | Sep 10 20:27 |
_Goblin | cool | Sep 10 20:27 |
_Goblin | thats fine..... | Sep 10 20:27 |
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_Goblin | Im on the netbook at the moment....android wifi hotspot running on my HTC | Sep 10 20:27 |
schestowitz | a babushka of computing | Sep 10 20:27 |
schestowitz | netboom connects to phone connects to server connects to your pc | Sep 10 20:28 |
_Goblin | Its because im in the countryside currently that there is little signal | Sep 10 20:29 |
iophk | the Google computer center in Hamina / Fredrikshamn is open | Sep 10 20:29 |
_Goblin | Still....this connection is better than nothing.... | Sep 10 20:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Good luck to @brettcsmith, in Chicago today explaining !FSF opposition to #TPP to its negotiators (http://www.ustr.gov/tpp) | Sep 10 20:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks has caused no harm: FDL http://t.co/wOB0uSH | Sep 10 20:30 | |
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DrumScum | rofl, testing irc lag dudes? | Sep 10 20:34 |
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_Goblin | yeah | Sep 10 20:36 |
_Goblin | sorry....was afk there....writing a Dr Who rant (of sorts) on Diaspora | Sep 10 20:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Right now I hate @pwgraner and David Mandala. Not feeling especially breezy this morning. | Sep 10 20:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange extended interview (video) | SBS http://t.co/uYllLye | Sep 10 20:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 84 dents! | Sep 10 20:45 | |
_Goblin | Im sure I could beat 84 dents If I put my mind to it! ;) | Sep 10 20:47 |
MinceR | sure | Sep 10 20:48 |
MinceR | especially with a script :> | Sep 10 20:48 |
_Goblin | :) | Sep 10 20:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @yareckon @laurelrusswurm No shame in using a Microsoft mouse. I think we should all encourage them to become a hardware company :) | Sep 10 20:54 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @johnsu01: Good luck to @brettcsmith, in Chicago today explaining #FSF opposition to #TPP to its negotiators (http://www.ustr.gov/tpp) | Sep 10 21:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Whoever wrote/writes #Californication is. a. freaking. genius! | Sep 10 21:09 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @rajitsingh: To flash, or not to flash, that is the question - !Android ROM hopper. | Sep 10 21:42 | |
_Goblin | ah... | Sep 10 21:45 |
_Goblin | a disconnection | Sep 10 21:45 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: remember how many mp3 downloaders we used to have? | Sep 10 21:55 |
schestowitz | used to be a fraction of ogg ones | Sep 10 21:55 |
_Goblin | yep | Sep 10 21:55 |
schestowitz | I've just checked what's not varnished (cached) | Sep 10 21:55 |
schestowitz | It says 1350 in the past 6 days, just mp3s | Sep 10 21:56 |
_Goblin | whats the ogg stats? | Sep 10 21:56 |
schestowitz | I think it used to be something like 12k ogg and maybe 200-300 mp3 | Sep 10 21:56 |
schestowitz | ogg says 6143... we haven't made many new shows for months | Sep 10 21:56 |
_Goblin | I wonder what prompts the increase in mp3? | Sep 10 21:57 |
schestowitz | overall the site had 1.5 million hits directly on apache in 6 days | Sep 10 21:57 |
schestowitz | usually it's more like 1.2 million | Sep 10 21:57 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: maybe people who subscribe who aren't into FOSS | Sep 10 21:58 |
_Goblin | I think thats because you have a celeb on the TechBytes show... | Sep 10 21:58 |
schestowitz | at the start it was a lot of Linux followers from your site and mine | Sep 10 21:58 |
_Goblin | a handsome dashing young man with a cowboy hat and beard. | Sep 10 21:58 |
schestowitz | We didn't have to start from zero like some shows do | Sep 10 21:58 |
schestowitz | No, it's you who drive the show | Sep 10 21:59 |
schestowitz | I just edit | Sep 10 21:59 |
_Goblin | lol... | Sep 10 21:59 |
schestowitz | Anyway, did you hear ep 200 of Linux Outlaws? | Sep 10 21:59 |
_Goblin | I steer you power it. | Sep 10 21:59 |
schestowitz | They said they had 4 listeners for many of the early shows | Sep 10 21:59 |
_Goblin | and no I haven't | Sep 10 21:59 |
_Goblin | I might download that.... | Sep 10 21:59 |
schestowitz | Imagine the lack of motivation to make new ones | Sep 10 21:59 |
schestowitz | I see people with the same issue when they blog or vlog | Sep 10 22:00 |
_Goblin | oh re: tomorrow....don't bother calling...I'll be driving for most of it. | Sep 10 22:00 |
schestowitz | until they fatigue | Sep 10 22:00 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: ok | Sep 10 22:00 |
_Goblin | I'll be on here later on sunday anyway | Sep 10 22:00 |
_Goblin | I have to say.... | Sep 10 22:01 |
_Goblin | Google Groups is a much more convenient medium for my usenet viewing. | Sep 10 22:01 |
schestowitz | Oh, ogg was actually 7400, I forgot to merge file types | Sep 10 22:01 |
schestowitz | we only record like 2-3 a month now | Sep 10 22:01 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: COLA has been a tad messy | Sep 10 22:02 |
schestowitz | But many of the trolls are leaving | Sep 10 22:02 |
schestowitz | Just the lowest form of scum stayed | Sep 10 22:02 |
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schestowitz | And nobody would take them seriously | Sep 10 22:02 |
schestowitz | because they curse a lot and can't even type right | Sep 10 22:02 |
schestowitz | those who were coherent are mostly gone | Sep 10 22:02 |
schestowitz | one of them came back recently | Sep 10 22:02 |
schestowitz | But I think we stand a chance of taking back the newsgroup | Sep 10 22:03 |
schestowitz | then jono will rejoin :-) | Sep 10 22:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Chávez backstabbed by former wife Herma Marksman http://t.co/xjhKyc9 | Sep 10 22:07 | |
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_Goblin | I think the newsgroup is lost | Sep 10 22:08 |
_Goblin | I think that the Linux posters there need the trolls... | Sep 10 22:09 |
_Goblin | take a look....except for a few links about linux...theres nothing but bickering...for far more relevant links you can find them on Identi.ca and in greater number | Sep 10 22:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: US: Aeropostal drug-traffic airline cocaine air http://t.co/YRa8MVZ | Sep 10 22:12 | |
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_Goblin | and I think Jono has better things to do than go to COLA...thats not a community, its a playground. | Sep 10 22:17 |
schestowitz | Depends to whom and depends onn your killfile | Sep 10 22:28 |
schestowitz | to me -- I don't see trolls | Sep 10 22:28 |
schestowitz | I see insightful people there and good links that I use | Sep 10 22:28 |
schestowitz | Also, I don't think anyone 'needs' the trolls | Sep 10 22:28 |
schestowitz | We brag about Linux winnings also among ourselves | Sep 10 22:29 |
schestowitz | Just like some of us do in identica | Sep 10 22:29 |
schestowitz | Not to upset trolls | Sep 10 22:29 |
schestowitz | But to share our success, just like many Mac sites and their visitors do | Sep 10 22:29 |
_Goblin | with the exception of one or two who mainly post links, the other Linux advocates are just there for the bickering....they have done nothing to further advocate Linux....how can they? they bicker in a NG which has no interest for the vast majority of users, Linux or not... | Sep 10 22:33 |
_Goblin | Ive yet to find a name in the Linux/Foss world that reads COLA... | Sep 10 22:34 |
ThistleWeb | why not start a new group called PEPSI | Sep 10 22:35 |
ThistleWeb | or a slimmed down group called DIET | Sep 10 22:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Plumbers conference next year, plans & rfc - http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2011/plumbers-conference-next-year | Sep 10 22:37 | |
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schestowitz | the group is a good way of getting information provides you eliminate noise. | Sep 10 22:37 |
_Goblin | Agreed... | Sep 10 22:37 |
schestowitz | It's not about who else is reading it | Sep 10 22:37 |
_Goblin | :) | Sep 10 22:37 |
_Goblin | although.... | Sep 10 22:37 |
schestowitz | if it was only a group of 5 people and they were insightful, then fine | Sep 10 22:38 |
_Goblin | You wouldn't get the "Linux advocates" from COLA unless you could gaurantee them childish bickering with equally childish Microsoft "advocates" | Sep 10 22:38 |
ThistleWeb | your face | Sep 10 22:38 |
schestowitz | I like posts from Homer, "Hardon", bbgruff | Sep 10 22:38 |
_Goblin | agreed | Sep 10 22:38 |
_Goblin | completely | Sep 10 22:38 |
ThistleWeb | erm....sorry, channeled an autochild response to any argument there | Sep 10 22:38 |
schestowitz | where else can one get quick linux discussion? | Sep 10 22:39 |
schestowitz | Nontechnical | Sep 10 22:39 |
_Goblin | they are the exception....I would hope thye would move to Diaspora or similar...I would continue to read their text | Sep 10 22:39 |
schestowitz | And using a newsgroup reader | Sep 10 22:39 |
schestowitz | With quick navigation? | Sep 10 22:39 |
schestowitz | IRC is not post-based, it's real-time | Sep 10 22:39 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: diaspora, even G+....Ive had better conversations on them. | Sep 10 22:39 |
_Goblin | theres nothing quick.... | Sep 10 22:39 |
schestowitz | diaspora is not decentralised | Sep 10 22:39 |
schestowitz | Unless you install your own instance | Sep 10 22:39 |
_Goblin | yes it is..... | Sep 10 22:40 |
schestowitz | it's just going and hopping onto someone else's snadbox | Sep 10 22:40 |
_Goblin | already there are pods | Sep 10 22:40 |
schestowitz | and the people behind dispora are mac users | Sep 10 22:40 |
schestowitz | They're not like identica | Sep 10 22:40 |
ThistleWeb | before I go, I'd point out one flaw in your thinking.......normal users don't use newsgroups, they are old school, technical things that most users have never heard of, let alone know how to join, or want to follow technical based discussions | Sep 10 22:40 |
schestowitz | so it's not intended for Linux users to have their platform of choice | Sep 10 22:40 |
schestowitz | BTW | Sep 10 22:40 |
_Goblin | so? its a great service with a great tech and ethos | Sep 10 22:40 |
schestowitz | IDentica seems to be declinugn in activity | Sep 10 22:40 |
schestowitz | BTW | Sep 10 22:40 |
schestowitz | Diaspora might explode one day | Sep 10 22:41 |
schestowitz | Like Prelpeller | Sep 10 22:41 |
_Goblin | ThistleWeb: and I'd add to that, even the pro's have found other avenues and moved on | Sep 10 22:41 |
ThistleWeb | those who are interested in that will find it outside newsgroups | Sep 10 22:41 |
schestowitz | They're not so well established | Sep 10 22:41 |
ThistleWeb | exactly | Sep 10 22:41 |
schestowitz | So you could lose all your posts there | Sep 10 22:41 |
_Goblin | so? | Sep 10 22:41 |
_Goblin | its throwaway text | Sep 10 22:41 |
schestowitz | your work.. | Sep 10 22:41 |
schestowitz | Presveration | Sep 10 22:41 |
schestowitz | servatin | Sep 10 22:41 |
_Goblin | what if you decide to delete all your IRC logs... | Sep 10 22:41 |
_Goblin | all my text I've typed would be gone | Sep 10 22:42 |
ThistleWeb | so why bother trying to address COLA at all? let it die and set up something similar but positive in areas that regular users DO go....like facebook and G+ | Sep 10 22:42 |
schestowitz | you have it on your PC | Sep 10 22:42 |
schestowitz | In fact, many of us do | Sep 10 22:42 |
schestowitz | It's more decentralised | Sep 10 22:42 |
_Goblin | no, I don't log | Sep 10 22:42 |
schestowitz | The platform just handles the messaging | Sep 10 22:42 |
schestowitz | Not the long-term storage, just interim | Sep 10 22:42 |
schestowitz | Same with USENET | Sep 10 22:42 |
_Goblin | so if you decided to delete the logs Ive lost all my text | Sep 10 22:42 |
_Goblin | not that I would mind... | Sep 10 22:42 |
ThistleWeb | if you only hold conversations in areas that technical people go to, you're preaching tot he choir and wasting your time with the trolls for no gain | Sep 10 22:43 |
_Goblin | I don't ask for a conversation I have back with someone on the street. | Sep 10 22:43 |
schestowitz | cubebsd and other have the text too | Sep 10 22:43 |
schestowitz | Same for USENET | Sep 10 22:43 |
schestowitz | Google keeps copies of USENET | Sep 10 22:43 |
schestowitz | Deja News | Sep 10 22:43 |
_Goblin | diaspora, G+, identi.ca is what I call throwaway data......just like a real conversation. | Sep 10 22:43 |
schestowitz | ThistleWeb: nobody is obliged to feed trolls | Sep 10 22:43 |
schestowitz | it's not telemarketing | Sep 10 22:43 |
_Goblin | and in any case....what good could I do with 2 years of Diaspora or Identi.ca text? What possible use would it be to me...out of date links, old views...... | Sep 10 22:44 |
schestowitz | speaking ofd identica | Sep 10 22:44 |
ThistleWeb | doesn't stop them from flooding the site to cause trouble | Sep 10 22:44 |
schestowitz | I see fewer real convos there | Sep 10 22:44 |
schestowitz | In the past there would be dialogue trees | Sep 10 22:44 |
schestowitz | Now there's not as much interaction, IMHO | Sep 10 22:44 |
ThistleWeb | even if you don't talk to the trolls in COLA you have to wade through reams and reams of attacks, slurs etc | Sep 10 22:44 |
schestowitz | no, you can use filters | Sep 10 22:44 |
ThistleWeb | all to find the odd post that's not | Sep 10 22:44 |
ThistleWeb | again, the technical solution | Sep 10 22:45 |
ThistleWeb | on a technical platform | Sep 10 22:45 |
schestowitz | no, filter based on names | Sep 10 22:45 |
schestowitz | You killfile troll posts | Sep 10 22:45 |
schestowitz | It's actually looking good when you do that | Sep 10 22:45 |
_Goblin | but take away the bickering....what do you have? | Sep 10 22:45 |
ThistleWeb | yes, the average joe knows usenet, and how to killfile | Sep 10 22:45 |
schestowitz | very polite discussion | Sep 10 22:45 |
schestowitz | and long posts too soemtimes | Sep 10 22:45 |
_Goblin | a few links that you can find on Identi.ca | Sep 10 22:45 |
ThistleWeb | that's who you're targetting right? the average user | Sep 10 22:45 |
_Goblin | I challenge you to find a polite conversation other than a I agree post. | Sep 10 22:46 |
schestowitz | I use identica more than USENET | Sep 10 22:46 |
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_Goblin | Ive seen no conversations just vulgar retorts. | Sep 10 22:46 |
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schestowitz | _Goblin: what? From Linux advocates? | Sep 10 22:46 |
schestowitz | They're not vulgar | Sep 10 22:46 |
schestowitz | The trolls try to take the unfiltered forum down to their level | Sep 10 22:46 |
_Goblin | Really? | Sep 10 22:46 |
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schestowitz | _Goblin: yes, really | Sep 10 22:47 |
schestowitz | I'm talking about real adovxates | Sep 10 22:47 |
schestowitz | Not forgers | Sep 10 22:47 |
schestowitz | Or rude people who come there justt o insult | Sep 10 22:47 |
schestowitz | I think you lost track of who's who and who's faking who | Sep 10 22:47 |
_Goblin | With the exception of the names you mentioned earlier.....I can find you all the others posting vulgarity,..infact as recently as today | Sep 10 22:47 |
schestowitz | You thought the advocates insulted you | Sep 10 22:47 |
_Goblin | no | Sep 10 22:48 |
_Goblin | they didn't insult me. | Sep 10 22:48 |
schestowitz | Maybe directed at those who libel them | Sep 10 22:48 |
schestowitz | Who can blame them? | Sep 10 22:48 |
_Goblin | I don't beleive they were rude either | Sep 10 22:48 |
_Goblin | Im talking about the tit for tat between Linux users and the Microsoft advocates. | Sep 10 22:48 |
_Goblin | and I can blame them. | Sep 10 22:48 |
schestowitz | Petrer for example was libelled extensively | Sep 10 22:49 |
schestowitz | He does not curse at Linux folk | Sep 10 22:49 |
_Goblin | you just don't sink to their level.....its the sign of maturity...something which I said to the Microsoft advocates many times. | Sep 10 22:49 |
schestowitz | there are no Microsoft advoxates there | Sep 10 22:49 |
schestowitz | Maybe there used to be | Sep 10 22:49 |
schestowitz | There are vandals | Sep 10 22:49 |
schestowitz | People who want to destory everything | Sep 10 22:49 |
_Goblin | I don't have to be vulgar to someone to flatten them in a counter. | Sep 10 22:49 |
schestowitz | Calling them Microsoft advocates is like calling the riots who put shops on flames "government sceptics" | Sep 10 22:50 |
schestowitz | *rioters | Sep 10 22:50 |
_Goblin | I try to normalize their behaviour.......giving a motive...its makes them easier to segregate. | Sep 10 22:50 |
_Goblin | the alternative is that they post the way they do just for devilment.... | Sep 10 22:50 |
_Goblin | in that case the NG is definately lost since they won't stop, its how they get their kicks. | Sep 10 22:51 |
schestowitz | some did stop | Sep 10 22:51 |
schestowitz | some vanished | Sep 10 22:51 |
_Goblin | and that is unbeatable...which makes the vulgarity that thrown back at them look rather silly. | Sep 10 22:51 |
schestowitz | Only the scum is left | Sep 10 22:52 |
schestowitz | And a mactrol | Sep 10 22:52 |
_Goblin | and more turned up....COLA to me looks as childish now as it did this time last year | Sep 10 22:52 |
schestowitz | the anti-Android trolling is gone | Sep 10 22:52 |
schestowitz | For now.. | Sep 10 22:52 |
_Goblin | different names, same potty mouth | Sep 10 22:52 |
schestowitz | if you refer to it as a collective, unfiltered | Sep 10 22:52 |
ThistleWind | you need to involve Bryan from LAS, he's mastered the Seseme Street slang, with the "Mr Poopypants" stinger | Sep 10 22:53 |
_Goblin | I wont post there again, I maybe glance at it once a week and I certainly won't mention it to anyone Im introducing Linux to... | Sep 10 22:53 |
_Goblin | I really hope Homer et al set up shop elsewhere... | Sep 10 22:54 |
schestowitz | I've just looked | Sep 10 22:54 |
schestowitz | Kari posted lots of good stuff | Sep 10 22:55 |
schestowitz | Tomorrow I'll go through these | Sep 10 22:55 |
schestowitz | ThistleWind: I don't like Bryan, in fact we never got along | Sep 10 22:55 |
_Goblin | and if you joined Diaspora you would see that there are 100's of Kari's (I assume Kari is a good poster on COLA) | Sep 10 22:55 |
ThistleWind | out of curiosity, you are planning on rebuilding this in a place regularpeople actually visit right? | Sep 10 22:55 |
_Goblin | I thought we were joking | Sep 10 22:56 |
ThistleWind | I was joking about Bryan | Sep 10 22:56 |
_Goblin | Roy, are you creating a NG? or forum? | Sep 10 22:56 |
schestowitz | no, why? | Sep 10 22:56 |
_Goblin | oh... I misread | Sep 10 22:57 |
_Goblin | my fault | Sep 10 22:57 |
_Goblin | yep...my error.... | Sep 10 22:57 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Gaza: US Army directly, physically, secretly, enforced Gaza blockade http://t.co/DPUH8Tl | Sep 10 22:57 | |
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schestowitz | There's Jabbaboy | Sep 10 23:17 |
schestowitz | Catman! | Sep 10 23:18 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2wMsnE2cvI | Sep 10 23:18 |
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DaemonFC | his royal flatulence is currently sleeping | Sep 10 23:23 |
DaemonFC | http://www.razor-qt.org/screenshots/ | Sep 10 23:23 |
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MinceR | interesting | Sep 10 23:24 |
*MinceR switched to XFCE today | Sep 10 23:25 | |
DaemonFC | MinceR is enjoying his indicators and ubuntu software center in the Xubuntu desktop | Sep 10 23:25 |
DaemonFC | which takes more RAM than KDE | Sep 10 23:25 |
DaemonFC | :D | Sep 10 23:25 |
MinceR | nope :> | Sep 10 23:26 |
_Goblin | that was never my experience of Xfce either.... | Sep 10 23:27 |
_Goblin | ran it for about a year with Wolvix | Sep 10 23:27 |
ThistleWind | xfce being heavy or not is deoendent on the distro, wolvix is closer to what it should be, xubuntu is heavy | Sep 10 23:30 |
ThistleWind | is wolvix still alive? | Sep 10 23:31 |
ThistleWind | when debian can do a perfectly functional xfce idling at around 85mb, you have to wonder what xubuntu do, to make it around 300+ | Sep 10 23:33 |
_Goblin | I don't think Wolvix has been worked on since last year (March) | Sep 10 23:34 |
_Goblin | could be wrong.... | Sep 10 23:34 |
_Goblin | I switched 2010 I think for Sabayon | Sep 10 23:35 |
ThistleWind | I know it floundered for a while, when Wolven had real life stuff that sapped his time | Sep 10 23:35 |
ThistleWind | that was wolvix 1 | Sep 10 23:35 |
ThistleWind | then it jolted back to life with wolvix 2 beta | Sep 10 23:35 |
ThistleWind | no idea if it's still alive | Sep 10 23:36 |
ThistleWind | if wolvix 2 ever made it out of beta | Sep 10 23:36 |
ThistleWind | but hey, beta works for google | Sep 10 23:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @arnebab: ♻ @cwebber: @mattl #NC = No-Community, #ND = No-Dialogue — on #creativecommons #licenses #cc | Sep 10 23:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Like Father Like Son (or Like Phone Like Tablet) http://tinyurl.com/6cr7qwt #microsoft #windows #android #apple #wp7 #iphone | Sep 10 23:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @speeddefrost: Hugs are a special kind of drug. There's a reason they rhyme with each other. | Sep 10 23:47 | |
DaemonFC | [18:43] <DaemonFC> hmmm, good price | Sep 10 23:48 |
DaemonFC | [18:44] <DaemonFC> but it should have panned out like this | Sep 10 23:48 |
DaemonFC | [18:44] <DaemonFC> 444.99 Less Windows = $354.99 After Rebate $299.99 | Sep 10 23:48 |
DaemonFC | [18:44] <DaemonFC> :) | Sep 10 23:48 |
DaemonFC | [18:44] <DaemonFC> (assuming OEM price of Windows 7 Home) | Sep 10 23:48 |
DaemonFC | [18:45] <DaemonFC> those are some expensive plastic discs | Sep 10 23:48 |
DaemonFC | [18:46] <DaemonFC> but you get the cardboard box thrown in for no additional fee | Sep 10 23:48 |
DaemonFC | [18:46] <DaemonFC> *Except in Nebraska! :) | Sep 10 23:48 |
DaemonFC | :) | Sep 10 23:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @frozenfire: Anything that smiles needs to be reminded that the world is a cruel, dark place. | Sep 10 23:49 | |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: what's with Nebraska? | Sep 10 23:49 |
schestowitz | Will they deliver to Alaska and not Nebraska? | Sep 10 23:49 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Nebraska state law at one time required call centers to be located in Nebraska to serve Nebraska customers | Sep 10 23:50 |
DaemonFC | so businesses would need an 800 number for the rest of the US | Sep 10 23:50 |
DaemonFC | and one for Nebraska | Sep 10 23:50 |
DaemonFC | so Except in Nebraska was pretty common to hear on infomercials | Sep 10 23:50 |
DaemonFC | that law has since been repealed | Sep 10 23:51 |
DaemonFC | now Nebraska can call Microsoft Support and get the same quality Indian call centers as the rest of the United States | Sep 10 23:51 |
schestowitz | What's the history of this?\ | Sep 10 23:52 |
schestowitz | Keeping jobs in the States? | Sep 10 23:52 |
schestowitz | I wonder how long till you guys dial 911 and get some call cenre in Mumbai... | Sep 10 23:52 |
schestowitz | You would bleed to death by the time they comprehend the peoblem | Sep 10 23:53 |
schestowitz | Buy hey, it's cheaper... logn term | Sep 10 23:53 |
schestowitz | They kill jobs in the US.. | Sep 10 23:53 |
schestowitz | Saves money | Sep 10 23:53 |
schestowitz | Kills kobs | Sep 10 23:53 |
schestowitz | I.e. less money in the same ecnomony | Sep 10 23:54 |
schestowitz | > inflation | Sep 10 23:54 |
DaemonFC | a burglar breaks into your house and you have an Indian on the other end reading through a checklist | Sep 10 23:54 |
DaemonFC | Have you asked him to leave sir? | Sep 10 23:54 |
DaemonFC | :) | Sep 10 23:54 |
schestowitz | "Hlld on.. I will tranafer you to another department [with another list of questions]" | Sep 10 23:54 |
schestowitz | It's like one phone number for each error type | Sep 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | High job turnover... so need to be trainable quickly | Sep 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | Like BT.. | Sep 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | It's like they filter with electronic prerecorded messages, trying to channel you into the right pigeon hole | Sep 10 23:56 |
schestowitz | Oj BTW | Sep 10 23:56 |
schestowitz | Good news | Sep 10 23:56 |
schestowitz | I got a letter from Virgin Trains today | Sep 10 23:56 |
schestowitz | After ranting twice abvoutn them in the blog | Sep 10 23:56 |
schestowitz | 3 visits, 3 letters, 3 calls... | Sep 10 23:56 |
schestowitz | They sent me the money I deserve | Sep 10 23:57 |
schestowitz | And also compensated with a 20-pound voucher | Sep 10 23:57 |
schestowitz | So it wasn't ALL bad... | Sep 10 23:57 |
DaemonFC | if you're being murdered by a guy with an ax, press one. | Sep 10 23:57 |
DaemonFC | if he's dressed up like a clown and raping your wife, press 2... | Sep 10 23:57 |
schestowitz | beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep | Sep 10 23:57 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Sep 10 23:57 |
MinceR | iirc the nebraska thing had to do with some phone network trickery | Sep 10 23:57 |
schestowitz | who's government of nebraska | Sep 10 23:58 |
schestowitz | IIRC they had some radicals in the US govt. | Sep 10 23:58 |
MinceR | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OfferVoidInNebraska | Sep 10 23:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Offer Void In Nebraska - Television Tropes & Idioms .::. Size~: 61.77 KB | Sep 10 23:58 |
schestowitz | Where was Clinton from again? | Sep 10 23:58 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Nebraska's legislature is different from all other states | Sep 10 23:58 |
schestowitz | some eastern state | Sep 10 23:58 |
DaemonFC | they only have one chamber | Sep 10 23:58 |
DaemonFC | no house of representatives | Sep 10 23:58 |
DaemonFC | only senators | Sep 10 23:58 |
schestowitz | wearing cowboyt boots? | Sep 10 23:59 |
DaemonFC | hell if I know | Sep 10 23:59 |
schestowitz | how about updike? | Sep 10 23:59 |
DaemonFC | things probably get done quicker without two layers of bureuacracy | Sep 10 23:59 |
schestowitz | Does he wear high heels? | Sep 10 23:59 |
DaemonFC | as for whether they do the right or wrong things more often, I don't know | Sep 10 23:59 |
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