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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh look, #Google screws not only the users, but also the govrnments: ur1.ca/52ab7Sep 12 00:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ssh should be a librarians appSep 12 00:31
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> I'll be honest with you, I don't know where I'll put my penis if I'm electedSep 12 00:33
DaemonFC<klh> ...Sep 12 00:33
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> and if that costs me the vote, then I'm sorry I was so honestSep 12 00:33
DaemonFC:)Sep 12 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @Catelli_NQU Oh Fuck You "Voltage Pictures LLC"!! Do you want CDNs to stop going to the movies? http://ur1.ca/51oqeSep 12 00:34
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DaemonFC<DaemonFC> I wonder where gay atheists would end up if they put Mexican lesbian satan high priestesses on the listSep 12 00:38
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> if I lose the election to a Mexican lesbian high priestess of Satan, I've lost all faith in AmericaSep 12 00:38
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> :(Sep 12 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @doctorow @jkdegen @russellmcormond @Kim_Bruning @giuliaforsythe Man in UK doesn't fly to Canada for AC meeting shock horror! < lolSep 12 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @russellmcormond @jkdegen Can a retail outlet claim to politically "represent" anyone they sell products for?Sep 12 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] maybe it's time to boycott ALL hostile studios doing the copyright extortion thang, with LOADS of 0 star reviews #MPAA #RIAASep 12 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hurt Locker? It's shit, 0 stars, save your moneySep 12 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] refuse to go see their movies in the cinema, refuse to rent / buy their DVD's, BluRays etc send em brokeSep 12 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @jezra do what ya need to do to get betterSep 12 00:57
schestowitzhttp://reverendted.wordpress.com/2011/09/07/my-republican-debate-rundown/Sep 12 01:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My Republican Debate Rundown « Reverend Ted’s Blog .::. Size~: 36.96 KBSep 12 01:01
schestowitzDaemonFC: coulf be worseSep 12 01:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Foundation Hijacked By Crackers http://ur1.ca/52axb @LinuxFoundation statementSep 12 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CUBRID #database management site down. How ironic: "Error establishing a database connection" http://blog.cubrid.org/Sep 12 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Foundation Hijacked By Crackers | Muktware .::. Size~: 24.98 KBSep 12 01:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] We've done a page to help you convince your Pointy Haired Boss to send you to #LCA2012. Anything we've missed? http://bit.ly/pq8x4P Thx!Sep 12 01:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Convincing your boss to send you to linux.conf.au -  linux.conf.au 2012 | 16 - 20 Jan | Under the stars .::. Size~: 22.79 KBSep 12 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Attention! We've announced quite a few miniconfs so far! Get your submitty hats on! That is all, carry on http://bit.ly/q2vVHg #LCA2012 :-)Sep 12 01:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mini-Confs -  linux.conf.au 2012 | 16 - 20 Jan | Under the stars .::. Size~: 20.4 KBSep 12 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @boycottnovell "The Free Software Movement is Building Support Within the Government of Brazil” http://ur1.ca/526e6 #brazil //cc @age ...Sep 12 01:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: “The Free Software Movement is Building Support Within the Government of Brazil and Throughout Brazil” | Techrights .::. Size~: 197.2 KBSep 12 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It’s an Android future, with or without Google http://ur1.ca/52b7i "provides smartphone manufacturers with a free,powerful and customisable"Sep 12 01:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: It’s an Android future, with or without Google - TNW Google .::. Size~: 120.37 KBSep 12 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] it costs 10 times more, but... [IMG] http://ur1.ca/52b98Sep 12 01:22
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83460858Sep 12 01:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Mohan P Ram (mohanpram)'s status on Monday, 12-Sep-11 00:42:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @lstench: HEHE tell @schestowitz now me ;)Sep 12 01:48
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/83460439Sep 12 01:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Mohan P Ram (mohanpram)'s status on Monday, 12-Sep-11 00:37:31 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz: it costs 10 times more, but... [IMG] http://ur1.ca/52b98Sep 12 01:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice API documentation available http://ur1.ca/52bsh #odf #tdfSep 12 01:49
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schestowitzand the caption is, Apple: we're full of itSep 12 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Joke of a decade: Apple is an innovative company. Hard to keep one's face straight.Sep 12 01:52
schestowitzMicrosoft booster roots for ban of Android http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2015985278_microsoft_vs_motorola_patent_case_goes_before_inte.htmlSep 12 01:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Pri0 | Microsoft vs. Motorola patent case goes before International Trade Commission | Seattle Times Newspaper .::. Size~: 81.43 KBSep 12 01:55
*sebsebseb is now known as PeterPanSep 12 01:58
schestowitzHey, PeterPanSep 12 01:58
PeterPanschestowitz: HiSep 12 01:59
PeterPanschestowitz: changed to this name, becaue of someone :DSep 12 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Personally I think the whole driver model for #Windows is a huge mess" http://ur1.ca/52c12Sep 12 02:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 7 driver signing conundrum | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 50.26 KBSep 12 02:02
schestowitzTinkerbell?Sep 12 02:02
PeterPanschestowitz: yepSep 12 02:03
schestowitzare you going out with her?Sep 12 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Justice Department Reports Drug Seizures Do Little to Stop Cartels http://ur1.ca/52c3c #cartel !wikileaksSep 12 02:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Justice Department Reports Drug Seizures Do Little to Stop Cartels |  The Dissenter .::. Size~: 88 KBSep 12 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TSA Agent Threatens Woman With Defamation, Demands $500k For Calling Intrusive Search 'Rape' http://ur1.ca/52c4c #tsa #airpornSep 12 02:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA Agent Threatens Woman With Defamation, Demands $500k For Calling Intrusive Search 'Rape' | Techdirt .::. Size~: 720.45 KBSep 12 02:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] What happened? *First* time in years I get seat in the mrt train on way to office. It's not a public holiday I hope. #fbSep 12 02:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is it Legal to Photograph or Videotape Police? http://ur1.ca/52c6r not when the police has a monopoly on enforcementSep 12 02:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is it Legal to Photograph or Videotape Police? » Blog of Rights: Official Blog of the American Civil Liberties Union .::. Size~: 39.85 KBSep 12 02:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Clothing brands agree to look into mass faintings in #Cambodia http://ur1.ca/52c92 "global brands such as Gap, H&M, Wal-Mart and Puma."Sep 12 02:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Clothing brands agree to look into mass faintings in Cambodia | Asia | Deutsche Welle | 08.09.2011 .::. Size~: 38.42 KBSep 12 02:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice to see proactive innovation on video privacy - https://guardianproject.info/2011/09/10/progress-on-mobile-video-privacy-tools/Sep 12 02:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Progress on Mobile Video Privacy Tools | The Guardian Project .::. Size~: 25.74 KBSep 12 02:37
DaemonFChttp://www.zimagez.com/full/560ed592a3eb10678302d8b06046bee3d1d987e36b394fc526a1fcbd0408a4be46ad329cf0dc9f04527e91f2fff6d59e57157588f407920d.phpSep 12 02:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz "Personally I think the whole driver model for #Windows is a huge mess" http://ur1.ca/52c12 #microsoftSep 12 03:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 7 driver signing conundrum | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 50.26 KBSep 12 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lol! New Linux 3.1 logo - http://djwong.org/docs/31-tuxlogo.pngSep 12 03:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks @kennethh for DuckDuckGo Infographics on !privacy http://donttrack.us/ & explaining filter bubbles http://dontbubble.us/Sep 12 03:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google tracks you. We don't. An illustrated guide. .::. Size~: 15.52 KBSep 12 03:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Escape your search engine Filter Bubble! .::. Size~: 7.11 KBSep 12 03:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] md @russellmcormond @jkdegen But Access Copyright is a royalty collective society (As defined by Act and copyright board), not a unionSep 12 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 11/9/2011: Xonotic 0.5, Plasma Active http://ur1.ca/52e08 !techrightsSep 12 03:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Links 11/9/2011: Xonotic 0.5, Plasma Active http://ur1.ca/52e08 #techrightsSep 12 03:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] it is going to take a while to get used to your new avatar @psquidSep 12 03:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @sameerverma: 0% of #OLPC XO laptops run #Windows. http://t.co/pZ7QiuaSep 12 03:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 11/9/2011: Xonotic 0.5, Plasma Active | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.1 KBSep 12 03:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 11/9/2011: Xonotic 0.5, Plasma Active | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.1 KBSep 12 03:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @lohangSep 12 03:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] md @ggreenwald AP finds claims about !WikiLeaks damage are wildly exaggerated: how 9/11-era propaganda functions: http://ur1.ca/52e67Sep 12 04:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Orwell, 9/11, Emmanuel Goldstein and WikiLeaks - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 84.72 KBSep 12 04:06
*schestowitz back tomorrowSep 12 04:19
schestowitztake careSep 12 04:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "I can't explain it. It's a miracle!", "Seriously?! You just haven't reached the technological and intellectual level to explain it."Sep 12 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] 吉拉德祝您中秋快乐Sep 12 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Just had possibly the most frustrating technology experience of my life. Webcam going out of sync while recording. Annoyed.Sep 12 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fosspatents/@fosspatents] AFP: No truce expected in global #patent wars http://ur1.ca/529bvSep 12 06:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AFP: No truce expected in global patent wars .::. Size~: 33.43 KBSep 12 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Monday's !InconstantMoon chapter is posted: Maggie: “Go away Amelia. I’m sleeping.” http://ur1.ca/52etf !SelfPubSep 12 06:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Inconstant Moon – 108 .::. Size~: 16.25 KBSep 12 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Some of us are visual thinkers... I navigate by landmarks too @psquid ... but really, It's the goofy glasses that get me :)Sep 12 06:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @neptune78 Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin -- more even than death.... Thought is subversive.. ...Sep 12 06:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Sweet dreams Identicats !tzag !IdentiverseSep 12 06:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @buddhabadges: If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything. ~ Mark TwainSep 12 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] http://ompldr.org/vYWJicw/wikipedia.el wikipedia lookup in #emacs via w3m. yes, you can use spaces in the article nameSep 12 07:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk I waive any copyright on my actual function to be clear, though pretty sure it's too short to actually be copyrightableSep 12 07:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] just unwittingly stumbled upon M-x irc. I prefer itSep 12 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Unseen Studio Has Launched http://is.gd/2MshNU #Linux #FreeCulture #FOSS #fbSep 12 07:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unseen Studio Has Launched | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 21.5 KBSep 12 07:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New HPR Ep | An interview with myself & Klaatu on a #FreeCulture #Torrent Tracker project @Cobra2 & I are starting http://is.gd/BXrQsTSep 12 07:36
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badpatentsHey, I have a question: Facebook claims to use its patents only "defensively", but TechRights wrote an article (now almost a year ago, but got cited in a recent post) claiming that it was an aggressorSep 12 07:36
badpatentshttp://techrights.org/2010/11/11/facebook-swpats-aggression/Sep 12 07:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook is Now Officially a Patent Bully | Techrights .::. Size~: 109.1 KBSep 12 07:36
badpatentsHowever, afaict, the case described in that article is in fact Facebook using patents defensivelySep 12 07:37
badpatentsi.e. countersuing someone who patent-sued themSep 12 07:37
badpatentswhich is the conventional meaning of "defensive use" of patentsSep 12 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ican haz nervesSep 12 07:38
badpatentsso am I misunderstanding the case described, or do I and schestowitz have different understandings of what "defensive" patents mean?Sep 12 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I lol'd ur1.ca/52f3j - three cheers for the TSASep 12 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] To Tame a Land by Iron Maiden just came on. Filled with nostalgia about moving to the south of England from Yorkshire and listening to it.Sep 12 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] BBC's #Sherlock is also being broadcasted on #AXN: BeyondSep 12 08:02
badpatentsanyone have any comments on what I said?Sep 12 08:05
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badpatentsto me that issue significantly affects where facebook falls on the evil/non-evil continuumSep 12 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Retired Sampling+ niche licenses http://goo.gl/UjZ0O as @freesounddev (only significant user) v2 now uses CC0/BY/BY-NC!Sep 12 08:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Celebrating Freesound 2.0, retiring Sampling+ licenses - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 25.2 KBSep 12 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] que tá na região de Campinas, não perca @cascardo hoje 16h na Unicamp palestrando sobre “Hardware Livre” http://ur1.ca/470vtSep 12 08:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Main Page - mc039 .::. Size~: 15.44 KBSep 12 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: "When parents sent letter in mail, nobody was allowed to open it to check if it contained a copied poem" http://bit.ly/nEh6FQSep 12 08:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: On Panel in Wroclaw, Poland - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 229.03 KBSep 12 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sankarshan Gee ! lmacken/openshift-quickstarter - https://github.com/lmacken/openshift-quickstarter http://b1t.it/BgsSep 12 08:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: lmacken/openshift-quickstarter - GitHub .::. Size~: 29.27 KBSep 12 08:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @unhosted: "Separate the Applications from Storage" - @timbl, long before the #unhosted project even existed: http://ur1.ca/529e0Sep 12 08:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Socially aware cloud storage - Design Issues .::. Size~: 23.75 KBSep 12 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @clacke or perhaps the broader meaning of lease is just creative accounting to avoid sales taxes ;-)Sep 12 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @cwebber: A good name for a FOSS replacement for Unity would be "Mutiny" ;) #fossgamingSep 12 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @harishpillay: lol# New Linux 3.1 logo - http://djwong.org/docs/31-tuxlogo.pngSep 12 09:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Claims Copied Code Means No Infringement - http://bit.ly/oW1KPF this looks v. clever - will the judge go for it? (v @opensourcerer)Sep 12 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Courthouse News Service .::. Size~: 11.27 KBSep 12 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag identizens.Sep 12 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #Copyright on music is set to rise from 50 to 70 years in the EU. Where is the sense in this? Next stop average EU lifespan? Infinity?Sep 12 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Celebrating Freesound 2.0, retiring Sampling+ licenses - http://bit.ly/o8cZHz great project, interesting move #ccSep 12 09:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Celebrating Freesound 2.0, retiring Sampling+ licenses - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 25.2 KBSep 12 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Brazilian expats are moving back home to work with startups - http://tnw.co/nA0s2g interesting straw in the wind #brazilSep 12 09:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Brazilian expats are moving back home to work with startups - TNW Latin America .::. Size~: 88.63 KBSep 12 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Twitter To Support #Hindi - http://bit.ly/r9FnM9 I'm surprised it's taken this long for such an important market #indiaSep 12 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] maybe Samsung should call the Galaxy's shape "rectangled ellipsis"? ur1.ca/52fl0 #crapple #patents #failSep 12 09:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter To Support Hindi .::. Size~: 37.75 KBSep 12 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] interesting: #opendata portals in #Singapore - http://bit.ly/rkeJ95 - and South #Korea - http://bit.ly/qjgtzcSep 12 09:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Install the Classic Desktop in #Ubuntu 11.10 - http://bit.ly/q9Fgbl this will be me #linuxSep 12 09:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Install the Classic Desktop in Ubuntu 11.10 | Tombuntu .::. Size~: 24.8 KBSep 12 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Climate Scientists Defense Fund – Please Help - http://bit.ly/opNtAp sad that it has come to thisSep 12 09:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Climate Scientists Defense Fund – Please Help | ThinkProgress .::. Size~: 43.47 KBSep 12 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Latindex Portal of Portals - http://bit.ly/paBLai "10e6 scientific articles from Latin America & the Caribbean, Spain & Portugal" freeSep 12 09:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: University World News - IBEROAMERICA: Portal of journals goes online .::. Size~: 30.85 KBSep 12 09:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] There goes great hashing country! http://app.lta.gov.sg/corp_press_content.asp?start=rj2i4o1u3d7018466v86y82epxjj32mwbvnhu6rpwt8lplkgo6 #fbSep 12 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Land Transport Authority - What's New :: Content .::. Size~: 13.34 KBSep 12 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Owning the #stack: The legal war to control the #smartphone platform - http://bit.ly/n9yeTs excellent, detailed summarySep 12 10:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Owning the stack: The legal war to control the smartphone platform .::. Size~: 42.98 KBSep 12 10:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] useful list of #opendata portals in Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Georgia, Albania, Thailand, UAE, Hong Kong, Kenya [ru] - http://bit.ly/pHje0ESep 12 10:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Порталы открытых данных в неожиданных странах | Иван Бегтин .::. Size~: 41.12 KBSep 12 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just reading emails. It appears that security on Linux.com and LinuxFoundation.org has been badly compromised.Sep 12 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "50,000 jobs to go in the NHS and the profit motive to be injected." #savetheNHSSep 12 10:29
MinceRhttp://www.dilbert.com/2010-05-20/Sep 12 10:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' color comic strips, animation, mashups and more! .::. Size~: 28.06 KBSep 12 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Sanctioned: #P2P lawyer fined $10,000 for "staggering chutzpah" http://goo.gl/gK7Kc - only $10000? he'll make that back in a weekSep 12 10:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sanctioned: P2P lawyer fined $10,000 for "staggering chutzpah" .::. Size~: 33.61 KBSep 12 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I found my exercise weights diary shortly after finding the dusty weights in the attic. Not lifted for 9 years, how time flies.Sep 12 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ars Technica about Scott James Remnant's proposal: !Ubuntu technical board member proposes monthly Ubuntu release cycle http://goo.gl/XknjnSep 12 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Unity Mail Gets !Ubuntu Messaging Menu Support, More http://goo.gl/0zhEsSep 12 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Linaro Landing Team makes great progress http://goo.gl/aRAlTSep 12 10:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu technical board member proposes monthly Ubuntu release cycle .::. Size~: 38.42 KBSep 12 10:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unity Mail Gets Ubuntu Messaging Menu Support, More ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.58 KBSep 12 10:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linaro Landing Team makes great progress | Linaro - Open source software for ARM SoCs .::. Size~: 35.39 KBSep 12 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT from yesterday - link now working] RSS died for your sins - http://bit.ly/pSzzUo I found this very witty, very wise piece in my RSS feedSep 12 10:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Danny O’Brien’s Oblomovka  » Blog Archive   » RSS died for your sins .::. Size~: 29.91 KBSep 12 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #AVG jumping into snake oil mode with #WP7 and got caught lol http://goo.gl/qwBx8Sep 12 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] [RE: TEDxKids] @alek robimy w Bramie / na WEiTI? no joke. najchętniej gdzieś po Nowym Roku. /cc @mpaluchowski @zstanskaSep 12 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Delightfully the Liberal Democrats have a Lord Newby in their ranks.Sep 12 11:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Government: Open Standards Must be #RF, not #FRAND - http://bit.ly/nybMq5 this is big: finally a definitive answer #opensourceSep 12 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I'm confused, #Google! I though Real Name Policy is a good thing! ur1.ca/52g42Sep 12 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @forteller: RT @glynmoody #opendata portals in S Arabia, Morocco, Georgia, Albania, Thailand, UAE, Hong Kong, Kenya [ru] bit.ly/pHje0ESep 12 11:16
sosmanCan't believe I just got a letter home from primary school that they want every student to buy an iPad!!Sep 12 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] RT @adainitiative Haecksen miniconf @linuxconfau calling for participation, this year with new focus on supporting women. http://is.gd/J ...Sep 12 11:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !KDE plasma active: crunching towards one http://goo.gl/j50K5Sep 12 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Robert Ancell on the !GNOME OS http://goo.gl/3hLAoSep 12 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jason Gerard DeRose: Our apps should all launch instantly http://goo.gl/Fv7uoSep 12 11:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Plasma Active: Crunching towards One «  vizZzion.org :: sebas' blog .::. Size~: 40.4 KBSep 12 11:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bob's development blog: GNOME OS .::. Size~: 131.47 KBSep 12 11:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: road to measurably superior: Our apps should all launch instantly .::. Size~: 65.34 KBSep 12 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jeremy Bicha: Getting Started with !GNOME Shell & Fallback in !Ubuntu 11.10 http://goo.gl/yotMLSep 12 11:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Getting Started with GNOME Shell & Fallback in Ubuntu 11.10 | Just Jeremy .::. Size~: 22.65 KBSep 12 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Interesting. Talking to a manufacturer who tells me Google have changed page rankings method, meaning his company is now working flat out.Sep 12 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Remember the good old days? Mike looks back on 11 years of Linux Format, as issue 150 approaches: http://tinyurl.com/3wtoex5Sep 12 11:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Format issue 150 is approaching! | TuxRadar Linux .::. Size~: 15.77 KBSep 12 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Market Share of Internet Explorer is below 20 percent in Hungary (IE 6 is under 1%). FIrefox has 53%, Chrome 23,5%. http://goo.gl/O2DmUSep 12 11:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Syndicate and Syndicate 2 were a strategy game. sequel is gonna be f*cked up as a #FPS?!?!!???Sep 12 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #Diaspora seems mighty sluggish right now. Sing of popularity? ;)Sep 12 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody UK Government: Open Standards Must be #RF, not #FRAND - http://bit.ly/nybMq5 this is big: finally a definitive answer #ope ...Sep 12 11:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] To the consumption cathedrals.Sep 12 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @sandersch Smartphones out-ship feature phones in Europe, Samsung leads the way http://is.gd/AAndTg !androidSep 12 12:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Smartphones out-ship feature phones in Europe, Samsung leads the way -- Engadget .::. Size~: 62.57 KBSep 12 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #Pinta Revived, New Release Planned http://goo.gl/8S1jhSep 12 12:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pinta Revived, New Release Planned | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 43.89 KBSep 12 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice launches extension and templates repository for public beta test: http://is.gd/ZLXtDS !libo !tdfSep 12 13:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice launches extension and templates repository for public beta test « The Document Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 34.35 KBSep 12 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US Air Force blocks WikiLeaks, NYTimes, Le Monde, El Pais, Guardian, Spiegel, OWNI, OLPC: http://t.co/jXffjO2 more: http://t.co/s2B7q4QSep 12 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New extended interview with Julian Assange http://t.co/HBF8MMT translated by @HomoCarnula http://t.co/eda3hOaSep 12 13:17
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DrumScum12:14 < sosman> Can't believe I just got a letter home from primary school that they want every  student to buy an iPad!!Sep 12 13:23
DrumScumWTF?Sep 12 13:23
sosmantell me about it.Sep 12 13:24
sosmanSent home a "Q&A" which was mix of cheerleading and apologetics.Sep 12 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I would like before & after buttons at the top of the page as well.Sep 12 13:24
sosmanbedtime for me - ciaoSep 12 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Fench nuclear waste explosion today. The MOX plutonium cables: http://t.co/kDJep6GSep 12 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @toros: #OMG #Ubuntu: #Pinta Revived, New Release Planned http://goo.gl/8S1jhSep 12 13:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pinta Revived, New Release Planned | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 47.01 KBSep 12 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] LibreOffice launches extension and templates repository for public beta test: http://wmk.me/qukPTMSep 12 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice launches extension and templates repository for public beta test « The Document Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 34.72 KBSep 12 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Najgłupsze z najgłupszych - 37 "najciekawszych" artykułów Faktu i Super Expressu: ur1.ca/52gs6 !polskaSep 12 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruceperens/@bruceperens] The Covenant, A New Approach to Open Source Cooperation. http://hpccsystems.com/community/white-papers/the_covenant_bperensSep 12 13:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Covenant - A New Approach to Open Source Cooperation | HPCC Systems .::. Size~: 49.57 KBSep 12 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Używasz OpenSource - według organizacji IIPA jesteś piratem. Yarr! ur1.ca/neawSep 12 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] With a mix of steely determination and it was closed I did not go in the chippy at lunchtime.Sep 12 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [Updated] UK Government: Open Standards Must be RF, not FRAND - http://bit.ly/nybMq5 more interesting stuff from UK gov on #opensourceSep 12 13:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK Government: Open Standards Must be RF, not FRAND - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 78.48 KBSep 12 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @AbsintheSyringe @BiellaColeman Shuttleworth & I are off to a meeting with President of Republika #Srpska. Topic? Migration to #Linux.Sep 12 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Announcing my war on having wars on things. #cliche #lackofimagination #soundbite #slogan #languageSep 12 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The only way that was a Cumberland sausage is if it was made in Cumberland by someone with a shed load of pate to ged rid of. #poorSep 12 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] How open and transparent can a public company really be? with @bhorowitz by @cdgrams | http://red.ht/q7kQTB #transparencySep 12 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Linux and the Giant Breach http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Linux-and-the-Giant-Breach-73261.html #linuxSep 12 14:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How open and transparent can a public company really be? | opensource.com .::. Size~: 44.32 KBSep 12 14:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux News: Community: Linux and the Giant Breach .::. Size~: 56.6 KBSep 12 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Another 59 Defenders Of Copyright Monopoly And Locked-Down Society Just Lost Their Jobs - http://bit.ly/nA7267 cool #germanySep 12 14:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another 59 Defenders Of Copyright Monopoly And Locked-Down Society Just Lost Their Jobs - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 225.05 KBSep 12 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Social network lets people with same gut flora hook up - http://bit.ly/ro6tT7 is it just me, or is this vaguely disquieting?Sep 12 14:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: One Per Cent: Social network lets people with same gut flora hook up .::. Size~: 63.24 KBSep 12 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Former RIAA Lobbyist, Now Judge, Says Lowest Possible Statutory Damages For Single Case Of Infringement Is $3,430 - http://bit.ly/rnV4MNSep 12 14:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Former RIAA Lobbyist, Now Judge, Says Lowest Possible Statutory Damages For Single Case Of Infringement Is $3,430 | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.89 KBSep 12 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Perens: The Covenant - A New Approach to Open Source Cooperation http://lwn.net/Articles/458515/rssSep 12 14:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Perens: The Covenant - A New Approach to Open Source Cooperation [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.82 KBSep 12 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Will Ubuntu #Linux Switch to a Monthly Release Cycle? http://tinyurl.com/3d4zf5hSep 12 14:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will Ubuntu Linux Switch to a Monthly Release Cycle? | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 79.57 KBSep 12 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Tablets com #Android já estão mais baratos por causa dos incentivos do governo? - http://bit.ly/pPdUtV lucky old #BrazilSep 12 14:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tablets com Android já estão mais baratos por causa dos incentivos do governo? | Gizmodo Brasil .::. Size~: 28.96 KBSep 12 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Term extension is a cultural disaster - http://bit.ly/potGjh what a surprise: the #copyright #ratchet turns another notch... #euSep 12 14:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Rights Group | Term extension is a cultural disaster .::. Size~: 12.5 KBSep 12 14:42
ender_2600im wondering if anyone has run into thisSep 12 14:45
ender_2600you have two lists of names and want to subtract one list from the otherSep 12 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Draft schedule announced for linux.conf.au! Tentative, subject to change, but you'll agree it's awesome! #LCA2012 http://bit.ly/nK2ecASep 12 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How #China kept lid on Ramadan - http://lat.ms/pnIUkU "more people see religion as a form of resistance" (v @farwestchina @markmackinnon)Sep 12 14:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Draft schedule announced for linux.conf.au 2012 -  linux.conf.au 2012 | 16 - 20 Jan | Under the stars .::. Size~: 19.72 KBSep 12 14:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How China kept lid on Ramadan - latimes.com .::. Size~: 199.48 KBSep 12 14:46
ender_2600at the very least i'd like the duplicatesSep 12 14:47
ender_2600i cant think of a simple way of doing thisSep 12 14:47
MinceRiirc i've coded something like thatSep 12 14:48
MinceRthere's a perl script called "lines-of" in http://winnie.nik.bmf.hu/mincer/filez/doc-dev/doc-dev-1.1.tar.bz2Sep 12 14:49
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MinceRiirc it handles two files as sets and outputs the lines from the first that are in or not in the secondSep 12 14:49
ender_2600excellent thanksSep 12 14:50
MinceRywSep 12 14:50
ender_2600thats exactly what I was looking for :)Sep 12 14:50
ender_2600tired of doing these little things in calcSep 12 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU_US: A partnership to eradicate illegal fishing - http://bit.ly/n2GtsY we shall see...Sep 12 14:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU-US: A PARTNERSHIP TO ERADICATE ILLEGAL FISHING «  Maria Damanaki\'s blog .::. Size~: 27.75 KBSep 12 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] One Mark of a Good Distro http://ostatic.com/blog/one-mark-of-a-good-distro #linuxSep 12 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @webmink: LibreOffice launches extension and templates repository for public beta test: http://wmk.me/qukPTMSep 12 14:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: One Mark of a Good Distro .::. Size~: 41.4 KBSep 12 14:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice launches extension and templates repository for public beta test « The Document Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 36.04 KBSep 12 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Great Wintel Divergence (PC mag): http://bit.ly/o6ti1cSep 12 14:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Great Wintel Divergence .::. Size~: 60.6 KBSep 12 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Mobile operators will lose voice services to mobile platforms (GigaOm): http://bit.ly/pv2HVsSep 12 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Medical Association for Prevention of War estimate that 90% of casualties in a war are now civilians. 100 years ago it was 10%.#progressSep 12 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] HTC mulling purchase of operating system: report http://tinyurl.com/6jyn7yz Maybe webOS??Sep 12 14:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mobile operators will lose voice services to mobile platforms — Mobile Technology News .::. Size~: 133.75 KBSep 12 14:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HTC mulling purchase of operating system: report - CNA ENGLISH NEWS .::. Size~: 53.4 KBSep 12 14:59
MinceRhttp://www.dilbert.com/2010-07-06/Sep 12 14:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' color comic strips, animation, mashups and more! .::. Size~: 28.06 KBSep 12 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why I Insist On Saying “The Copyright Monopoly” - http://bit.ly/qDEre4 of course, like patent monopoly: they're intellectual monopoliesSep 12 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Bonjour !Identiverse !tzagSep 12 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♺ @satipera: The Medical Association for Prevention of War estimate that 90% of casualties in a war are civilians. 100 years ago it was 10%Sep 12 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @threethirty: ♻ @webmink: LibreOffice launches extension and templates repository for public beta test: http://wmk.me/qukPTMSep 12 15:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why I Insist On Saying “The Copyright Monopoly” - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 241.99 KBSep 12 15:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice launches extension and templates repository for public beta test « The Document Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 37.45 KBSep 12 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Another 59 Defenders Of Copyright Monopoly And Locked-Down Society Just Lost Their Jobs - http://bit.ly/nA7267 cool #germanySep 12 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] The many faces of #Linux http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3293689Sep 12 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Former RIAA Lobbyist, Now Judge, Says Lowest Possible Statutory Damages For Single Case Of Infringement Is $3,430 - http:/ ...Sep 12 15:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another 59 Defenders Of Copyright Monopoly And Locked-Down Society Just Lost Their Jobs - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 234.04 KBSep 12 15:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ENT: The many faces of Linux - Online with Bob Vaillancourt - The Sudbury Star - Ontario, CA .::. Size~: 83.06 KBSep 12 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @evan http://ur1.ca/52h1t #YARR #votelikeapiratedaySep 12 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Tails: One more distro for the privacy-conscious http://tinyurl.com/6ywm725 #linuxSep 12 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera The Medical Association for Prevention of War estimate that 90% of casualties in a war are now civilians. 100 years ago it ...Sep 12 15:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another 59 Defenders Of Copyright Monopoly And Locked-Down Society Just Lost Their Jobs - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 232.93 KBSep 12 15:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tails: One more distro for the privacy-conscious - Open Source - Techguide .::. Size~: 58.97 KBSep 12 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Why we still love open source http://tinyurl.com/5s3748k #opensourceSep 12 15:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why we still love open source | Open source software - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 108.98 KBSep 12 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera #Copyright on music is set to rise from 50 to 70 years in the EU. Where is the sense in this? Next stop average EU lifespan ...Sep 12 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Open-source policy formulation for Sri Lanka's capital http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/fullstory.php?nid=1804290644 #opensourceSep 12 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] PostgreSQL 9.1 released http://lwn.net/Articles/458520/rssSep 12 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] The Covenant - A New Approach to Open Source Cooperation http://lwn.net/Articles/458515/ #opensourceSep 12 15:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open-source policy formulation for Sri Lanka's capital - LANKA BUSINESS ONLINE .::. Size~: 32.79 KBSep 12 15:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PostgreSQL 9.1 released [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.85 KBSep 12 15:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Perens: The Covenant - A New Approach to Open Source Cooperation [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 9.64 KBSep 12 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The EU. Extension of !Copyright w/damage !Canada's #CountryMusic heritage; BACM can't reissue music like this http://ur1.ca/ts4x !CdnPoliSep 12 15:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jack Kingston, The Canadian Playboy  « lothlaurien's lore .::. Size~: 58.25 KBSep 12 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cameron signs a deal in Russia to open a chain of Bullingdon clubs. #riotsSep 12 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Blair=Iraq. Cameron=Bullingdon Club, this is how they will be remembered.Sep 12 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Better Swatch What You Say - http://bit.ly/naZsUS remember, this is the logical conclusion of #copyright (v @normative)Sep 12 15:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Volokh Conspiracy    » Better Swatch What You Say .::. Size~: 118.4 KBSep 12 15:32
MinceRthat swatch claim is ridiculousSep 12 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @satipera: Blair=Iraq. Cameron=Bullingdon Club, this is how they will be remembered.Sep 12 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @noyesk: The Covenant - A New Approach to Open Source Cooperation http://lwn.net/Articles/458515/ #opensourceSep 12 15:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Perens: The Covenant - A New Approach to Open Source Cooperation [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 12.28 KBSep 12 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Am I the only one being turned off by constant #911 repetition? Yeah, it happened. So what? Unless incompetents rule it won't happen again.Sep 12 15:42
MinceRincompetents do rule :>Sep 12 15:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ellison, Page have to attend lawsuit settlement talks - http://cnet.co/mUd6qO oh, to be a fly on the wall for those...Sep 12 15:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ellison, Page have to attend lawsuit settlement talks | Politics and Law - CNET News .::. Size~: 68.58 KBSep 12 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] "The Covenant - A New Approach to Open Source Cooperation" #Perens !puzzling http://ur1.ca/52gygSep 12 15:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Covenant - A New Approach to Open Source Cooperation | HPCC Systems .::. Size~: 49.57 KBSep 12 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Rugby when faced with deaths and paralysing injuries changed the rules. American football faced with same issues adopted body armour.Sep 12 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @cyberunions New post: http://t.co/lZUCtyWSep 12 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] but they do, @wayneboreanSep 12 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] How Beer Helped Human Civilization! http://vimeo.com/23278902 #fbSep 12 16:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Beer Saved The World on Vimeo .::. Size~: 45.94 KBSep 12 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Funeral Home." How weird is that?Sep 12 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Al Jazeera: 9/12 changed the world, not 9/11 http://ur1.ca/52hkpSep 12 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Any country with straight line on a map boarders is more likely to be unstable.Sep 12 16:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 9/12 changed the world, not 9/11 - Opinion - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 118.67 KBSep 12 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Better Swatch What You Say - http://bit.ly/naZsUS remember, this is the logical conclusion of #copyright (v @normative)Sep 12 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Bulgarian Ambassador in Washington - Trusted Informant of USA | http://t.co/AASpD3cSep 12 16:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Volokh Conspiracy    » Better Swatch What You Say .::. Size~: 121.23 KBSep 12 16:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Why I Insist On Saying “The Copyright Monopoly” - http://bit.ly/qDEre4 of course, like patent monopoly: they're intellectu ...Sep 12 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Why I Insist On Saying “The Copyright Monopoly” - http://bit.ly/qDEre4 of course, like patent monopoly: they're intellectu ...Sep 12 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @laurelrusswurm Al Jazeera: 9/12 changed the world, not 9/11 http://ur1.ca/52hkpSep 12 16:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 9/12 changed the world, not 9/11 - Opinion - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 118.67 KBSep 12 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @neptune78 @laurelrusswurm Bookmarked that for later. But going to check out !InconstantMoon. Right now.Sep 12 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Met Police stop sale of Met styled checquered caps with pig on the front instead of police.Sep 12 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♺ @mvdan: First time ever I use !cyanogen (in my #sensation). I am so happy and amazed that it blows my mind open. Thanks, really. !androidSep 12 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] rms in Wired UK: http://ur1.ca/52hof on War on Sharing: "One way people can resist is by removing the keys from their wireless networks."Sep 12 16:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Q&A: Richard Stallman on free software, the UK riots, and 'malicious' DVDs (Wired UK) .::. Size~: 82.24 KBSep 12 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks, @copyrightgirl, I knew that but had misplaced it in the corridors of my mind... copyright is such a mess it is easy to misfile bits.Sep 12 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good you're feeling better @marjoleink ... we humans are a funny lot; we often don't know what's good or important 'til it's gone.Sep 12 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Competition ends when a competitor knows the politicians. !capitalismSep 12 16:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hogan-Howe the new police equivalent of General Custer's PR machine? I hope it does not end as badly.Sep 12 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week: Hurricane Katia's strong winds batter Britain - http://bit.ly/rnt034 not what you might have expected #pixSep 12 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bloco quer referendo sobre privatização da água - http://bit.ly/mULNXj "As águas são um domínio público": well, quite (v @remixtures)Sep 12 17:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hurricane Katia's strong winds batter Britain - in pictures | UK news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 56.62 KBSep 12 17:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bloco quer referendo sobre privatização da água | Esquerda .::. Size~: 26.67 KBSep 12 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @RealHughJackman Who knew robots could do interviews?? Meet scrambled eggs the kitchen robot. twitpic.com/6jy4yw < cc @x11r5Sep 12 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That shot of Saint Paul's along the millenium bridge....yawn. Turn the camera around to Tate Modern. My favourite building in London.Sep 12 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] hm... just noticed I've exceeded 20,000 dents when I wasn't looking .. seems I talk too much. Shutting up now & back to !InconstantMoonSep 12 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mcnalu If you don't understand your limitations, you're unlikely to remove them and grow beyond them.Sep 12 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Comics - a rebirth: http://is.gd/IHfujG #comicsSep 12 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana seems like a reasonable solution to a problem no one had.Sep 12 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Whoever the government is the message is the same. Poor people pay the bills for the rich. !capitalismSep 12 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British banks......"If we were not ripping you off some foreign bank would be." !capitalismSep 12 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ... contributors are worried corp. might abandon #opensource version < 3 years from time of contribution? Or do I misunderstand? (2/2)Sep 12 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies @mlinksva Seems to me specific case is yet another misuse of !AGPL by a proprietary software company. !disturbingSep 12 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bankers, stop blackmailing us and carry out your threats and leave the country. I almost phrased that differently. !capitalism.Sep 12 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana yes, that seems right. i don't think most devs are concerned about *when* but *whether* the product will be made proprietary.Sep 12 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies I agree, which is why this proposal is #pointlessSep 12 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] A água está para ser privatizada em Portugal. Cuidado Brasil, somos os próximos. http://ur1.ca/52hvqSep 12 17:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bloco quer referendo sobre privatização da água | Esquerda .::. Size~: 26.67 KBSep 12 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Remix Polish bands' tracks for the CC Salon at the #ccsummit2011 this Saturday @ccmixter: http://bit.ly/nVVDBFSep 12 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What do you call a USA politician guilty of war crimes...not even suspected.....not charged...not prosecuted...not guilty...not justice.Sep 12 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dziennik Internautów o przetargach publicznych na software w Polsce: ur1.ca/52hxc - na podstawie raportu #FWiOO: ur1.ca/52hxzSep 12 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Kienzle.Sep 12 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Lehman Brothers: three years of denial http://gu.com/p/3xzctSep 12 17:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @methoddan The Linux Outlaws podcast is 4 years old today. Wow, doesn't seem that long. 1st episode - Sept 12th 2007 !loSep 12 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Sharism Makerlab Exhibition Sprint at Creative Commons Global Summit 2011; ht @sharism http://goo.gl/JuM38Sep 12 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] poor you! @lstenchSep 12 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Iraqi interrogators rape juveniles to get confessions http://t.co/Y0cUokxSep 12 18:19
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ender_2600http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-09/06/richard-stallmanSep 12 18:22
ender_2600One way people can resist is by removing the keys from their wireless networks. If you have a key on your wireless network then you're acting as an enforcer. You've been conscripted into the war on sharing. [If everyone has open networks] they can't really tell who's doing anything.Sep 12 18:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Q&A: Richard Stallman on free software, the UK riots, and 'malicious' DVDs (Wired UK) .::. Size~: 82.05 KBSep 12 18:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Enquiry into non custodial sentences.. for low level offenders which is most they are more effective.Sep 12 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Before I forget I did make that up about policestaff hats. #HumourSep 12 18:24
iophkThe digital economy bill punishes people for being *accused* of copyright infringmentSep 12 18:26
ender_2600If I did that I would have all kinds of people using up my bandwidthSep 12 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 WikiLeaks: Iraqi interrogators rape juveniles to get confessions http://t.co/Y0cUokxSep 12 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why does US #DOJ want to silence !WikiLeaks: Iraqi interrogators #rape juveniles to get confessions http://ur1.ca/52i60 /via @wikileaks2Sep 12 18:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks Cable: Iraqi Interrogators Rape Juveniles to Get Confessions |  The Dissenter .::. Size~: 61.46 KBSep 12 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] HAHAHA --- > Fernando Torres angrily denies complaining Chelsea players are "Old & slow", blames mistranslation as he a... http://b1t.it/Bn9Sep 12 18:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - HAHAHA --- > Fernando Torres angrily denies complaining… .::. Size~: 41.12 KBSep 12 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Life the three f's fighting, fucking and feeding. At my time of life the one and a half f's :-)Sep 12 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Too bad @satipera I thought it was funny. I could see Roy pulled over for speeding and having the officer approach wearing one of your hatsSep 12 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The price of bonds go down and metals go up. What does this tell us?Sep 12 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If you have a crime you have a problem with... organise a raid and get in touch with BPC...gets the message out.Sep 12 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rofl @mcnaluSep 12 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] How to Hire the Linux Talent You Need http://tinyurl.com/3v9v6xr #linuxSep 12 18:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to Hire the Linux Talent You Need | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 82.66 KBSep 12 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] SPARKcon: Igniting creative thinkers with open source | http://red.ht/oo1MgL #collaborationSep 12 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] that's what i get for cutting and pasting a correction... i'll stop now :)Sep 12 18:52
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2366Sep 12 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Free market medicine"..no cash suffer. "Social democracy medicine"...treat the citizen he/she is one of ours.Sep 12 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The greatest casualty of 9/11: The America we knew https://eff.org/r.3BJSep 12 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @bramalab: Laboratorium BRAMA jest na mikroblogach, dzięki @mczyzewski :) teraz podpiąć tylko wpisy ze strony głównej... ur1.ca/52icdSep 12 19:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: People’s Blog for the Constitution  » The greatest casualty of 9/11: The America we knew .::. Size~: 46.59 KBSep 12 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @r7 @sandersch yes you did :oSep 12 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] << back to workSep 12 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff The greatest casualty of 9/11: The America we knew https://eff.org/r.3BJSep 12 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/458574/rssSep 12 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] NYU prof Biella Coleman on DDoS attacks as nonviolent protest, the difference being the medium. https://eff.org/r.B62Sep 12 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh wow. I just realized UUPC has been naming quite a few of their episodes after Iron Maiden songs. #payattentionSep 12 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When the bubbles go up your nose it is intense but not long enough.Sep 12 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @fontana why wouldn't it be enforceable, at least as far as any contractual term is? "OSS" too vague? specific performance disfavored?Sep 12 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies Certainly seems practically unenforceable. If I'm copyright assignor, think of all I have to do to try to get this enforcedSep 12 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies But also, sure, "open source" is vague and specific enforcement disfavored remedy.Sep 12 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @copiesofcopies Similar objection applies to #Harmony and !FSF copyright assignment, but FSF can be trusted to keep code !freeSep 12 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just had take 1 of the basic encryption episode - 45+mins but packed with infoSep 12 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks world impact Sept 1-7, 2011 http://t.co/d8KlrIOSep 12 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] foodSep 12 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fontana oh cool, didn't know that there was an @bruceperensSep 12 20:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @laurelrusswurm Interviews for the 4th time this morning. *Goes to grab some lunch. Anyone need anything?Sep 12 20:14
-christel-[Global Notice] Hi all, it's that time again.. we're about to get in the ring, ready for round two. I'll be killing off another handful of servers to carry out some upgrades, hang tight and we'll see you on the other side. Thank you for using freenode and have a smashing evening!Sep 12 20:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Kees Cook is leaving !Canonical, will be working at Google on ChromeOS http://goo.gl/M8sFbSep 12 20:22
sebsebseboh ^Sep 12 20:24
sebsebsebthe thing that just came in from IdenticaSep 12 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @fontana plus isn't it in legally binding terms that they can't make proprietary?Sep 12 20:26
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-christel-[Global Notice] Hi all, that was relatively painfree, I am all done (for now) -- take three will be coming to a server near you this coming wednesday. Thank you for your patience whilst we noisily upgrade the network.Sep 12 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Newbie Tip: before asking a question in a forum, try searching the forum 1st; it pisses regulars off to see the same questionsSep 12 20:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] RT @robynbergeron: Cloudy things coming in @Fedora 16: Aeolus, HekaFS, pacemaker-cloud, OpenStack, and sheepdog, just to name a few.Sep 12 20:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] PostgreSQL 9.1 Released - Slashdot http://bit.ly/osTUjLSep 12 20:37
ender_2600That was a nice splitSep 12 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @evgenymorozov: Kremlin to avoid an Arab Spring by building an equivalent of China's 50 Cent Party to spin public opinion online ht ...Sep 12 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Free!Music!Contest! 2011 winners announced by @musikpirat 19 songs all under CC-BY or BY-SA http://goo.gl/V3MMZ + sources for remix!Sep 12 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Thx again to the community for its support while we work aggressively to restore services. A few updates now avail: http://bit.ly/nIbXPcSep 12 20:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !tzaf identizens fun as always to talk to you.Sep 12 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's been so long since I uploaded a new screencast I've forgotten how, need to refresh my memorySep 12 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mfat with 68 dents!Sep 12 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] this is the first one done in #Crunchbang !dpsSep 12 20:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "Open Ed Content: Addressing Challenges & Seizing Opportunities" #OER online focus session (9/14-15) http://bit.ly/nFC2SlSep 12 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mozilla as teacher - http://bit.ly/ob0tYp sounds perfect to me #education #codingSep 12 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Would you like to see more support for WebM, Ogg, Vorbis,Theora and other free codecs? Join the PlayFreedom list! http://ur1.ca/52iw2 !gnuSep 12 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Libertarian Think Tanks Oppose #Patents On Abstract Ideas - http://onforb.es/o13cDk interesting, possibly quite significant #scotusSep 12 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RD @mattl Would you like to see more support for WebM,Ogg,Vorbis,Theora and other free codecs? Join the PlayFreedom list http://ur1.ca/52iw2Sep 12 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] just converted emacs tea-time mode to use emms, giving me a ton more codec options :DSep 12 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] literally done more !emacs elisp work in the last 24 hours than ever before. next up: change tea-time to let me pick type of teaSep 12 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @tekk & set time from that(black, green, herbal, etc.) !emacsSep 12 21:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @mattl Would you like to see more support for WebM, Ogg, Vorbis,Theora and other free codecs? Join the PlayFreedom list! http://ur1.c ...Sep 12 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @tekk Thank you.Sep 12 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #MPAA: Bad At Math & Bad At Economics - http://bit.ly/nUX9sZ and guess what? they just don't care...Sep 12 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] ♺ @johndrinkwater: 2 passes over Office exported HTML file shaved 20K off 36K file. *shiver* Would be easier to write in notepad then styleSep 12 21:34
XFaCEschestowitz: I got an email about a propoganda MAFIAA ad that's circulating, explaining why the PROTECT-IP bill is necessarySep 12 21:34
XFaCEBecause as we all know, the best way to help a chaotic economic and political situation is to charge and convict more people of petty, irrelevant "crimes"Sep 12 21:35
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XFaCEschestowitz: via Demand Progress  http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/pipa_letter/?akid=858.349123.1weeHP&rd=1&t=1Sep 12 21:36
XFaCEhi ender_2600Sep 12 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Just saw the proof for new, improved, heavy-duty "GNU/Linux Inside" stickers for laptops etc. Much better.Sep 12 21:39
amarsh04http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=246293Sep 12 21:40
amarsh04Crikey: 'Internet shock: huge cost of cybercrime revealed by … cyber security firm', Bernard KeaneSep 12 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @mattl Would you like to see more support for WebM, Ogg, Vorbis,Theora and other free codecs? Join the PlayFreedom list! http://ur1.c ...Sep 12 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Off to sleep! great ideas that my fingers just cannot translate into code will further develop as dreams. !tzaf !identiverseSep 12 21:42
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XFaCEamarsh04: classicSep 12 21:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @mattl Would you like to see more support for WebM, Ogg, Vorbis,Theora and other free codecs? Join the PlayFreedom list! http://ur1.c ...Sep 12 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] !emacs !tea I have black green and herbal options for tea times in my tea-time, anything I missed?Sep 12 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USPTO decides two #Rambus #patents are invalid - http://bit.ly/nq6SIi "After it won lawsuits with them"Sep 12 21:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anti-Piracy Lobby Misleads Aussie Press for Three-Strikes Campaign - http://bit.ly/phzC5v making fools of journos - smart moveSep 12 22:02
*schestowitz backSep 12 22:04
ender_2600heySep 12 22:04
ender_2600xface - elections timeSep 12 22:04
schestowitzhow goes it?Sep 12 22:04
schestowitzany major news today?Sep 12 22:04
schestowitzI've been catching up for a few minutesSep 12 22:05
ender_2600rms was on wiredSep 12 22:05
MinceRwhere are elections?Sep 12 22:05
ender_2600mincer - ontario provincial (Canada)Sep 12 22:05
schestowitz[11:16] <sosman> Can't believe I just got a letter home from primary school that they want every student to buy an iPad!!Sep 12 22:06
schestowitztablet would make sense.Sep 12 22:06
schestowitzBut why a brand?Sep 12 22:06
ender_2600xface - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Se9kewCdUSep 12 22:06
schestowitzit's like saying "buy a Burger King for lunch"Sep 12 22:06
*amarsh04 misses the botSep 12 22:06
schestowitzohSep 12 22:06
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ender_2600his school IT department will probably support the ipadsSep 12 22:07
schestowitz[18:26] <iophk> The digital economy bill punishes people for being *accused* of copyright infringmentSep 12 22:07
MinceRender_2600: icSep 12 22:08
schestowitzthanks to mandelson and his buddy geffenSep 12 22:08
schestowitzender_2600: they could add android to supported listSep 12 22:08
MinceRwell, the nazis blew a lot of tax money on hypePads, yet the dictator held his speech with a scribbled-over printed sheetSep 12 22:08
schestowitzit's not hardSep 12 22:08
MinceRin hungaristanSep 12 22:08
ender_2600schestowitz - do you actually work in IT support?Sep 12 22:08
ender_2600noSep 12 22:08
MinceR231934 < ender_2600> his school IT department will probably support the ipadsSep 12 22:09
schestowitzMinceR: need to do a downfall of hitler finding out someone else makes rectangles with glassSep 12 22:09
MinceRlolSep 12 22:09
MinceRschestowitz: lolSep 12 22:09
MinceRschestowitz: not one about how everyone made better tablet pcs before them for ages?Sep 12 22:09
ender_2600we all know any device will be fine but when these kids want someone to call for helpSep 12 22:09
ender_2600you can't expect the staff to be trained for every type of tablet out thereSep 12 22:10
MinceR(with full-featured OS-es, not some crippleware)Sep 12 22:10
schestowitzthat's dineSep 12 22:10
schestowitzdineSep 12 22:10
schestowitzBut they standarise on one product onlySep 12 22:10
MinceRender_2600: i'm sure IT departments are both trained and equipped to support hypePadsSep 12 22:10
schestowitzThey could standardise on an OS that comes from 90+ companiesSep 12 22:10
ender_2600that wasn't their choiceSep 12 22:10
schestowitzMinceR: they are stilled at RRRSep 12 22:10
schestowitz*skilledSep 12 22:10
MinceRschestowitz: they could standardize on XO-1 with SugarSep 12 22:10
ender_2600where I work for example we only support blackberrySep 12 22:10
schestowitzblackberry stinks cause it's canadian < baitSep 12 22:11
ender_2600androids work, but we dont help those usersSep 12 22:11
ender_26001) dont have timeSep 12 22:11
schestowitzwill RIM make that tablet after allSep 12 22:11
schestowitzIt's got no chanceSep 12 22:11
ender_26002) less phone calls not supporting random devicesSep 12 22:11
ender_2600RIM did make a no chance tablet alreadySep 12 22:11
MinceRender_2600: they could go one step further: by not supporting anything at allSep 12 22:11
MinceRthey could set an answering machine with the text "IT support does not support anything, hang up."Sep 12 22:12
MinceRand operate a staff of 0Sep 12 22:12
schestowitzjoySep 12 22:12
schestowitzfor the IT people anywaySep 12 22:12
ender_2600IT isn't a magicianSep 12 22:12
schestowitzIT is a bad  termSep 12 22:12
schestowitzsome of us in the UK don't like itSep 12 22:12
ender_2600thats niceSep 12 22:12
MinceRschestowitz: "informatics" isn't widely used :>Sep 12 22:12
sebsebsebschestowitz: ICT Sep 12 22:12
schestowitzThis belittles the skills of people who know how to really hack and dismantle thingsSep 12 22:12
MinceRICT is just IT+communicationsSep 12 22:12
schestowitzsebsebseb: ICT is not much betterSep 12 22:13
sebsebsebICT is what the schools and colleges in UK teachSep 12 22:13
MinceRschestowitz: experts with axes?Sep 12 22:13
ender_2600it takes time and money to support thingsSep 12 22:13
schestowitzask people who use terms like engineerSep 12 22:13
schestowitz"support engineer" usualyl means helpdeskSep 12 22:13
MinceRender_2600: then they should their time and money to support something that isn't proprietarySep 12 22:13
ender_2600im glad we dont support android because it means less calls - i already receive enough calls for the settings and half of those people call back with issues putting those settings inSep 12 22:13
ender_2600proprietary or notSep 12 22:14
MinceRsupporting only crackberry means if RIM goes belly-up, they can all go learn something elseSep 12 22:14
ender_2600you need to help users use this stuffSep 12 22:14
amarsh04what I felt was never solved in the academic environment schestowitz was supporting basic services for all (file storage/backup, email, web...) whilst allowing those with particular technical needs (whether computer science, engineering or other areas) to use specialised softwareSep 12 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] At #TPP Negotiating Round, USTR Holds Firm on Secrecy and IP Maximalism - http://bit.ly/pWEf8h more details of US bad behaviourSep 12 22:14
schestowitzBTWSep 12 22:14
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schestowitzBuig nes todaySep 12 22:14
MinceRsupporting only crApple means (besides being ludicrous, seeing how locked-down they are and how even crApple doesn't support their own stuff) if jobs finally kicks the bucket, so does the IT departmentSep 12 22:14
schestowitzJust got a 20-page PFSep 12 22:14
MinceRschestowitz: NES?Sep 12 22:14
schestowitzFrom a friend and the OINSep 12 22:14
schestowitzI think they prepare to sue AppleSep 12 22:14
schestowitzFor the rectangle with glassSep 12 22:15
MinceRabout timeSep 12 22:15
ender_260018:04 <@MinceR> supporting only crApple meansSep 12 22:15
ender_2600less callsSep 12 22:15
MinceRapple needs a taste of their own businessSep 12 22:15
MinceRender_2600: of course, since the antenna doesn't workSep 12 22:15
schestowitzThis guy whim I met (see social channel logs) has the patents, I convinced him to strike at AppleSep 12 22:15
MinceRthey can't callSep 12 22:15
schestowitzhe has just mailed me again, I ned to read itSep 12 22:15
ender_2600can you leave your zealotry aside and have a rational discussion?Sep 12 22:15
ender_2600the users I support dont careSep 12 22:15
MinceRender_2600: can you?Sep 12 22:15
MinceRthe users you support don't care if their stuff works? that must be easy support thenSep 12 22:16
ender_2600we're fighting with users right now that want to trade in their blackberry for an iphoneSep 12 22:16
MinceRthen again, that's what the RDF doesSep 12 22:16
ender_2600the user themselves aren't asking for android at allSep 12 22:16
ender_260018:06 <@MinceR> the users you support don't care if their stuff works? that must be easy support thenSep 12 22:16
MinceRif they're so smart, they can support themselvesSep 12 22:16
ender_2600their stuff does workSep 12 22:16
MinceRsureSep 12 22:16
MinceRlike the hypePhone antennaSep 12 22:17
ender_2600that was fixedSep 12 22:17
ender_2600so no need to be a zealot about itSep 12 22:17
MinceRno, it actually wasn't fixedSep 12 22:17
ender_2600yes, the new iphone4's dont have that issueSep 12 22:17
MinceRthey do, only the software fakes the signal strength displaySep 12 22:17
ender_2600however here is the thing, they want to trade in proprietary blackberry for proprietary iphoneSep 12 22:18
MinceRand they might hand out bumpers.. which crack the glass on the front _and_ the backSep 12 22:18
ender_2600mincer - ive never seen thatSep 12 22:18
MinceRender_2600: you should start opening your eyesSep 12 22:18
ender_2600they are openSep 12 22:18
MinceRi guess the easiest to support part is when the hypePhone just explodesSep 12 22:19
ender_2600i have a number of coworkers with iphones and ipads, my gf has an iphone4, her friend has version 3Sep 12 22:19
MinceR"buy another one."Sep 12 22:19
ender_2600mincer, everything you don't like 'crashes', 'has random issues', 'explodes' or 'just doesn't work'Sep 12 22:19
MinceRender_2600: guess why i don't like themSep 12 22:19
MinceR(it really isn't hard...)Sep 12 22:19
ender_2600because of zealSep 12 22:20
MinceRwrongSep 12 22:20
ender_2600you make up reasons to hate stuffSep 12 22:20
MinceRbut thanks for playingSep 12 22:20
MinceRno, i prefer stuff that worksSep 12 22:20
ender_2600or you just parrot the issues of othersSep 12 22:20
ender_2600the stuff _does_ workSep 12 22:20
ender_2600its just not as goodSep 12 22:20
MinceRand i dislike shoddy stuff, especially if it's advertised to me directly every day as the redeemerSep 12 22:20
MinceRand an object of worshipSep 12 22:20
ender_2600there are technician reasons and there is zealotrySep 12 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Commissioner on Trade Discusses IP and Development, Asks IPR Owners to Increase Lobbying - http://bit.ly/oXcJ7b how about working for us?Sep 12 22:21
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MinceRyes, becoming an apple fanboy when someone nearby says there are problems with apple products is your kind of zealotrySep 12 22:21
MinceRzealous trollingSep 12 22:21
ender_2600i'm an apple fanboy now?Sep 12 22:22
MinceRapparentlySep 12 22:22
ender_2600just because im not an irrational zealot?Sep 12 22:22
MinceRat least so long as you believe you can troll me with itSep 12 22:22
MinceRor anyone elseSep 12 22:22
ender_2600not at allSep 12 22:22
MinceRthen it's the next thing, probably m$ fanboyismSep 12 22:22
ender_2600people don't understand what its like being the guy on the other end of the phone who has to help a user do something with their hardwareSep 12 22:23
ender_2600we're nerds, we can figure it out ourselvesSep 12 22:23
MinceRand they deserve to suffer?Sep 12 22:23
ender_2600dont they have the freedom to suffer if they are asking for it?Sep 12 22:24
MinceRif they pay for the increased costs of supporting, sureSep 12 22:24
MinceRbut why standardize on the crappiest alternative?Sep 12 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] does anyone have a script to not only reload .emacs, but all the stuff you required? !emacsSep 12 22:24
ender_2600crappiest alternative is your own opinionSep 12 22:24
ender_2600this stuff wouldn't sell if people didnt like itSep 12 22:24
MinceRit's plain technological factSep 12 22:24
ender_2600people arent forced to use apple hardwareSep 12 22:25
MinceRdoes the IT department make decisions based on what's fashionable or what's best on basis of technological merit?Sep 12 22:25
MinceRalso, who pays up if some proprietary apple patented hardware trick lets them claim it's your fault for ruining the device, even though it isn't?Sep 12 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] 11-Sep-2001 — 11-Sep-2011 Ten Years in a Day. http://ur1.ca/52j4i #911 #HenryRollins #war #USASep 12 22:26
ender_2600strawmenSep 12 22:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: News - Henry Rollins .::. Size~: 48.5 KBSep 12 22:26
MinceRnot at allSep 12 22:26
ender_2600haven't had RIM do that to us at allSep 12 22:26
MinceRi'm talking about appleSep 12 22:26
ender_2600well if i dont see others doing it its a strawmanSep 12 22:26
MinceRyou're making even less sense now than before, which is quite the featSep 12 22:27
ender_2600not at allSep 12 22:27
ender_2600you need to find a case where that actually happenedSep 12 22:27
ender_2600otherwise its a straw man arguementSep 12 22:27
ender_2600i can invent all kinds of whatif'sSep 12 22:27
MinceRhttp://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/08/06/apple_working_on_device_abuse_detection_technology.htmlSep 12 22:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AppleInsider | Apple working on device abuse detection technology .::. Size~: 93.87 KBSep 12 22:28
ender_2600have you returned hardware before?Sep 12 22:29
MinceRi have attempted to return hardware beforeSep 12 22:30
ender_2600every electronics manufacturer does this, without you knowing, and can void your warranty for bullshit without tracking youSep 12 22:30
MinceRi have had shops claim that their shoddy manufacturing and material defects aren't subject to warrantySep 12 22:30
MinceRand i couldn't protect my interestsSep 12 22:30
ender_2600intel knows what speeds you run their chips at apparentlySep 12 22:30
MinceRand as you can see, apple goes further than others at thisSep 12 22:30
ender_2600they'll know if you overclock and try to claim warrantySep 12 22:31
MinceRtheir generally shoddy designs and production quality doesn't help, of courseSep 12 22:31
ender_2600made in china syndromeSep 12 22:31
MinceRmost stuff that's made in china isn't full of risky and pointless gimmicks like the MagUnsafe connector (a fire hazard)Sep 12 22:31
ender_2600i gotta go but here is where I end the arguement. I don't disagree with users choosing their own devices but a support call can't cover every deviceSep 12 22:32
ender_260018:21 <@MinceR> most stuff that's made in china isn't full of risky and pointless gimmicks like the MagUnsafe connector (a fire hazard)Sep 12 22:32
MinceRit takes special stupidity to make products so shoddy as apple doesSep 12 22:32
ender_2600yes, everything made in china is a health riskSep 12 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Back from London, wrote lots of posts on the train. Will try catching up & punishing them tonight while they're fresh. Any major news today?Sep 12 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Big shoutout to South Americans who have been linking heavily to !techrights in recent days, esp. to #cablegate posts. #colonialism exposed.Sep 12 22:32
ender_2600you're also supporting a tyrannical communist government that is exploiting workers for the 'people'(state)Sep 12 22:33
MinceRgood thing that you aren't, thenSep 12 22:33
ender_2600china should be banned from exportingSep 12 22:33
MinceRby the way, where are crackberries made?Sep 12 22:33
ender_2600HungarySep 12 22:33
ender_2600:)Sep 12 22:34
MinceRi doubt itSep 12 22:34
MinceRthen again, hungary has a tyrannical national socialist governmentSep 12 22:34
ender_2600my 8310 isSep 12 22:34
MinceRone that has recently introduced a new form of slaverySep 12 22:34
MinceRand proclaimed red china to be its allySep 12 22:34
ender_2600lolSep 12 22:34
MinceRnot a joke!Sep 12 22:35
schestowitzslavery still existsSep 12 22:37
schestowitzit takes other formsSep 12 22:37
schestowitz"gentle slavery:"Sep 12 22:37
schestowitz!google "gentle capitalism"Sep 12 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Mujeres Libres - Fair Trade | http://www.mujereslibres.org/FairTrade.htmSep 12 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Capitalism with a Human Face: A Proposal for the Establishment of ... | http://www.thesolutionsjournal.com/node/545Sep 12 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Capitalism is dead. Long live capitalism. | opensource.com | http://opensource.com/business/11/2/capitalism-dead-long-live-capitalismSep 12 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Pressure on Authors and Journals/Journalists to Push Bill Gates ... | http://techrights.org/2011/08/23/whitewashing-in-journals/Sep 12 22:37
schestowitz!google "gentle bribery"Sep 12 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Video Library | http://www.kingsleynapley.co.uk/home/video_library/%3Fvideo%3D790493Sep 12 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - How to Convince a Sibling to Clean Their Room - wikiHow | http://www.wikihow.com/Convince-a-Sibling-to-Clean-Their-RoomSep 12 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Jun Figure Design by *Gasara on deviantART | http://gasara.deviantart.com/art/Jun-Figure-Design-252747919Sep 12 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The BabySitter's Club | Scholastic.com | http://www.scholastic.com/thebabysittersclub/adviceArea.htmSep 12 22:37
schestowitz!google "gentle bribe"Sep 12 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - How to Convince a Sibling to Clean Their Room - wikiHow | http://www.wikihow.com/Convince-a-Sibling-to-Clean-Their-RoomSep 12 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - George | Monster Factory | http://monsterfactory.net/monsters/georgeSep 12 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - ABKHAZIA'S AUTHORITIES DO NOT INTEND TO CONSIDER ... | http://www.abkhaziagov.org/en/news/detail.php%3FID%3D28041Sep 12 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Absolute Japan - Zen garden photography in Japan | http://www.phototravels.net/photo-guides/travelogue-gardens.htmlSep 12 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USTR Release of White Paper on “Trans Pacific PartnershipTrade Goals to Enhance Access to Medicines” - http://bit.ly/r0X2Kc good debunkingSep 12 22:37
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schestowitzoff results, I think the parentheses+ are not supported by the botSep 12 22:37
MinceRthe new form of slavery is a form of "communal work" where the workers don't count as employees, aren't protected as such, are paid less than the minimum wage, and if their work is far from their home, they're kept in barracks -- and the state is allowed to "lend" them to companies for moneySep 12 22:41
MinceRi think that last part is especially interestingSep 12 22:43
schestowitzBeing an old style slave might be betterSep 12 22:45
schestowitzUnless in the biblical senseSep 12 22:45
schestowitzWhere you can get beated upm  just not to deathSep 12 22:45
schestowitzolder slaves did not have to worry about bankers threatening themSep 12 22:45
schestowitzThey could just plow the fields and liveSep 12 22:45
cubeman_wage slave? Sep 12 22:46
cubeman_most people are in that situationSep 12 22:46
schestowitzMany people these days are slaves and denial and some commit suicide cause they can't take itSep 12 22:46
*cubeman_ is now known as cubebsdSep 12 22:46
schestowitzcubebsd: mortgages, yesSep 12 22:46
schestowitzEsp. in recent yearsSep 12 22:46
schestowitzThey can be wage slaves for decades without an option to take a cessationSep 12 22:46
cubebsdif you look at 18th century history though... people really are better offSep 12 22:46
schestowitzkeeping up appearancesSep 12 22:47
schestowitzcubebsd: not sureSep 12 22:47
cubebsdit's just that recently things aren't quite as good as say the 70sSep 12 22:47
schestowitzThey has loads of painful diseasesSep 12 22:47
schestowitzAmd surgery without anaestheticsSep 12 22:47
cubebsdschestowitz, no I mean people are better off nowSep 12 22:47
schestowitzah, sureSep 12 22:47
schestowitzbut..Sep 12 22:47
schestowitzThey work relativelySep 12 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] RT @kennethh @laurelrusswurm Don't forget to sign-up for your free #DuckDuckGo #jabber / #xmpp account http://dukgo.jottit.com/ !duckitSep 12 22:47
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schestowitzThey look at their neighboursSep 12 22:47
schestowitzAnd here in the UK it's hard to be abjectly miserable unless you do drugs or alcohol (drugs)Sep 12 22:48
schestowitzBenefit system exists here, the NHS, and people who are poor here live like a king 500 yeras agoSep 12 22:48
cubebsdexactly soSep 12 22:48
schestowitzHot water, processed food, etc.Sep 12 22:48
schestowitzBut they look at what others are doingSep 12 22:48
schestowitzClass inferiority here is prevalentSep 12 22:48
cubebsdthe general quality of life is better, generally speakingSep 12 22:48
schestowitzand the press DOES encourage thisSep 12 22:48
schestowitzThat's the travestySep 12 22:49
schestowitzThat the press could make peiple happySep 12 22:49
schestowitzBut uin morning shows here they appeal to emotionSep 12 22:49
MinceRdon't worry, it's going downSep 12 22:49
MinceRfascism is on the riseSep 12 22:49
schestowitzMaking people feel like "chavs" to motiuvte them to work very hardSep 12 22:49
cubebsdwell cheap gas is long goneSep 12 22:49
schestowitzVeyr extremely capitalistic cutrltureSep 12 22:49
MinceRslave-using states are rising in power, especially red chinaSep 12 22:50
schestowitzto the pojt of driving people intomedication that breeds suide effects, which leads to more ant-depressantsSep 12 22:50
schestowitzMinceR: and hugarisanSep 12 22:50
schestowitz*stanSep 12 22:50
MinceRi think hungaristan is dyingSep 12 22:51
schestowitzThe West is dyingSep 12 22:52
schestowitzToday I spoke to a colleague from GermanySep 12 22:52
MinceRthey're scaring away all the intellectuals and investors who aren't in the inner circle of the nazisSep 12 22:52
schestowitzShe won't move to the UKSep 12 22:52
schestowitzBecause of the ecnomySep 12 22:52
cubebsddying is a bit harshSep 12 22:52
MinceRthey're also destroying the economy because they're absolutely incompetentSep 12 22:52
schestowitz!google orban greeze bankruptcySep 12 22:52
TechrightsBot-trNo Google resultsSep 12 22:52
schestowitz!google orban greece bankruptcySep 12 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Hungary must avoid drifting on Greek path -PM Orban | Reuters | http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/29/hungary-orban-idUSL5E7JT0BC20110829Sep 12 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Autumn of our discontent | http://www.budapesttimes.hu/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D20336%26Itemid%3D219Sep 12 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Viktor Orbán - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%25C3%25A1nSep 12 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Prime minister: Hungary to fight way out of economic "danger zone ... | http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/business/news/article_1659714.php/Prime-minister-Hungary-to-fight-way-out-of-economic-danger-zoneSep 12 22:52
MinceRanyone who can and isn't a nazi will fleeSep 12 22:53
cubebsdthere were two periods of starvation in Ireland in the 18th and 19th centuriesSep 12 22:53
MinceRin the end there will be a feudal society with nazis ruling over the extremely poorSep 12 22:53
schestowitzpotato lack of diversitySep 12 22:53
schestowitzLike MonsantoSep 12 22:53
MinceRwith no technology or healthcareSep 12 22:53
schestowitzFaminesantoSep 12 22:53
MinceRhungary will be even less capable of competing with other statesSep 12 22:53
schestowitzMinceR: who did Orban drive away?Sep 12 22:53
MinceRthe nazis will destroy everything and then they'll move awaySep 12 22:53
schestowitzThe Germany Nazis sure drove away some people to the USSep 12 22:53
MinceRschestowitz: mostly physicians, so farSep 12 22:53
schestowitzAnd some prominent Nazis also ended up in the US laterSep 12 22:54
MinceRand other doctorsSep 12 22:54
cubebsdwhich European countries are doing well?Sep 12 22:54
schestowitzMinceR:  I bet Hungarian doctors are very skilledSep 12 22:54
MinceRhopefully the land will recover and then someone will be able to settle it again (and act a little more responsibly than these barbarians)Sep 12 22:54
schestowitzMinceR: you will still be able to visit witches when they all fleeSep 12 22:55
MinceRschestowitz: certainly more skilled than what they're paid, generallySep 12 22:55
schestowitzAnd people to read your coffee and palmsSep 12 22:55
MinceRi see absolutely no hope for these people anywaySep 12 22:55
schestowitznot just a .hu issueSep 12 22:55
schestowitzother countries tooSep 12 22:55
schestowitzDoctors who work 80 hours a weekSep 12 22:55
schestowitzAnd get paid less than some easy jobsSep 12 22:55
cubebsdhmmmSep 12 22:56
schestowitzDoing it for the principle, living like an average personSep 12 22:56
cubebsddoctors do pretty well hereSep 12 22:56
schestowitzThe uS has a healthcare catrtelSep 12 22:56
schestowitzSo they are paid better thereSep 12 22:56
schestowitzAt the expense of the populationSep 12 22:56
MinceRafter 20 years of democracy, they handed 2/3 of the parliament to these assholes, and there were practically no protests when they destroyed rule of law, freedom of speech, the constitutional state, the constitution and democracySep 12 22:56
cubebsddentists do very well\Sep 12 22:56
schestowitzmy relatives who are doctors in the US do wellSep 12 22:56
MinceReven if somehow the nazis lose power, these people will be no smarter than beforeSep 12 22:57
schestowitzThe rates there are high and it's not state-fundedSep 12 22:57
MinceRwhich means nothing will ever be safe in this stateSep 12 22:57
schestowitzmotherlandSep 12 22:57
MinceRthere were no voices raised about retroactive lawmaking!Sep 12 22:57
schestowitzEnjoy Orba's nippleSep 12 22:57
schestowitzMinceR: there are some comoplaints about it hereSep 12 22:58
schestowitzinc. from Tim/GoblinSep 12 22:58
MinceRsure, there were a few complaints, nothing moreSep 12 22:58
schestowitzThe other day he compared it to what German Nazis doSep 12 22:58
MinceRcompare this to what happened when gyurcsany admitted he lied to get electedSep 12 22:58
schestowitzLike new laws that passed secretlySep 12 22:58
MinceRthe barbarians burned the TV HWSep 12 22:58
schestowitzAnd the publlc does not yet know aboutSep 12 22:58
MinceRs/W/Q/Sep 12 22:58
MinceRnow it was leaked that orban admitted _before_ the election that he's going to lieSep 12 22:58
MinceRnothing happenedSep 12 22:58
schestowitzThank Orban for beating JobbikSep 12 22:59
schestowitzhe just needd some radicalsSep 12 22:59
MinceRand when the nazis destroyed freedom of speech, all the EU could say was that they aren't pleased with the ideaSep 12 22:59
schestowitzSo that people don't call *him* the NaziSep 12 22:59
schestowitz!google eo commision orbanSep 12 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - László Orbán | http://wn.com/L%25C3%25A1szl%25C3%25B3_Orb%25C3%25A1nSep 12 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Agency Compliance with Executive Order 13272 | http://archive.sba.gov/advo/laws/eo13272_03.pdfSep 12 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Cable reference id: #09BUDAPEST766 | http://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php%3Fid%3D09BUDAPEST766Sep 12 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - President of the European Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_European_CouncilSep 12 22:59
MinceRthere was no ultimatum, no threats that they'll kick hungary from the EU if hungary does not uphold the principles it's contractually obligated to upholdSep 12 22:59
schestowitz!google eu commission orbanSep 12 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Leonard Orban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_OrbanSep 12 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Orbán waves off concerns about constitution | European Voice | http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/2011/april/orban-waves-off-concerns-about-constitution/70853.aspxSep 12 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The EU's Hungary headache – and a whiff of double standards ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jan/20/hungary-eu-media-lawSep 12 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Joseph Daul confident Orban will respect EU views on Media Law ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DGfZnVSN81B8Sep 12 22:59
MinceRas usual, the EU did practically nothingSep 12 22:59
schestowitzit can't, it's too weakSep 12 23:00
MinceRthe only time the EU ever does anything is when their real masters from the USA tell them to do somethingSep 12 23:00
MinceRthey're oh-so-forceful thenSep 12 23:00
MinceRcorrupt fuckersSep 12 23:00
schestowitzthey are pressure the COmmissionSep 12 23:00
schestowitzWe have evidence in the cablesSep 12 23:00
cubebsdEU fined Microsoft Sep 12 23:00
schestowitzalso in Microsof case, the US pressure NeelieSep 12 23:00
MinceRyeah, a slap on the wristSep 12 23:00
MinceRguess what, hungaristan is still bleeding tax money to m$Sep 12 23:00
cubebsd:-/Sep 12 23:01
MinceRand now even to crAppleSep 12 23:01
schestowitzMinceR: Hungary compensates MicrosoftSep 12 23:01
schestowitzFor the egg attackSep 12 23:01
MinceRhungary owes them nothingSep 12 23:01
schestowitzGuilt reparations to SteveSep 12 23:01
MinceRin a civilized state, orban and his partners in crime would have been lynched alreadySep 12 23:01
MinceRbut this is the land of barbariansSep 12 23:02
schestowitzOrban the BarbarianSep 12 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Secretive thinktanks are crushing our democracy http://gu.com/p/3xpxySep 12 23:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Secretive thinktanks are crushing our democracy | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 242.96 KBSep 12 23:02
MinceRand all his voters who still support himSep 12 23:03
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schestowitzit's all PRSep 12 23:05
schestowitzAnd if he controls the media, then he gets to keep them brainwashedSep 12 23:06
schestowitzIs there no rule there on 8 year max?Sep 12 23:06
MinceRif they had a brain, they wouldn't let himSep 12 23:06
MinceRi don't knowSep 12 23:06
MinceRbut even if there was, with the 2/3 they can change itSep 12 23:06
MinceRthey've replaced the constitution with some fundamentalist bullshit alreadySep 12 23:06
MinceRwithout asking anyone elseSep 12 23:06
MinceRthey're also taking power away from the municipalitiesSep 12 23:07
MinceRthey've made the constitutional court powerless, and the constitutional court didn't say anything about itSep 12 23:07
MinceRthey've fired all the old judges and hired their own people in their placeSep 12 23:08
MinceRthey've also put their people in the constitutional courtSep 12 23:08
MinceRthey've long ago co-opted most media organizationsSep 12 23:08
MinceRlike i said, it's a dictatorshipSep 12 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] perhaps a safe approach would be to assume any think tank who hides their funding IS a corporate front group & dismiss their "reports"Sep 12 23:09
schestowitzMinceR: escpate to South KoreaSep 12 23:10
MinceRsouth korea is a m$ thrall, isn't it?Sep 12 23:10
schestowitzYou know how the dictators workSep 12 23:10
schestowitzThey kill the intellectualSep 12 23:10
MinceRthey use activex and all that shitSep 12 23:10
schestowitzThey could 'suicide' you :-) :-pSep 12 23:10
schestowitzskorea uses a lot of linux indevicesSep 12 23:11
MinceReven m$ doesSep 12 23:11
MinceR(they hide their shitty web servers behind it)Sep 12 23:11
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schestowitzyeahSep 12 23:26
schestowitzso does jonoSep 12 23:26
schestowitzIn case Can0onical collapses, he leaves the door to MS UK open, I thinkSep 12 23:26
schestowitzI hope notSep 12 23:27
schestowitzOkay, time for bloggingSep 12 23:27
schestowitzI had  dupe in my pak recordsSep 12 23:27
schestowitzturns out I mad eocnflicting editsSep 12 23:27
schestowitztook 10 minutes to find out where and resolve the conflictSep 12 23:28
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MinceRmaybe he thinks he can make a fortune selling windowsSep 12 23:30
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MinceRgnSep 12 23:31
XFaCEhi daemonfc, msbSep 12 23:31
schestowitzhi, XFaCESep 12 23:32
DaemonFChelloSep 12 23:32
XFaCEand schestowitz :)Sep 12 23:32
schestowitzI saw your earlier pointerSep 12 23:32
XFaCEJust something I found egregiousSep 12 23:32
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DaemonFCschestowitz, what is that exactly? :)Sep 12 23:33
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XFaCEuhSep 12 23:33
XFaCEwhy was he going all...Sep 12 23:33
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XFaCEI assume that wasn't on purpose on his partSep 12 23:34
schestowitzI kid, I kidSep 12 23:34
schestowitzhe wouldn't purposely do thatSep 12 23:34
XFaCEI thought soSep 12 23:34
XFaCEbrb, supperSep 12 23:34
schestowitzI see your ಠ_ಠ and I raise you twoSep 12 23:35
DaemonFCmy ulcer has been acting up all daySep 12 23:35
DaemonFCfeels like I'm being stabbedSep 12 23:35
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schestowitzThe Baconator is baci in da hausSep 12 23:36
DaemonFCI had my tonsils taken out back in 1994 and the doctor apparently wasn't washing his hands, because I picked up a nasty form of gastroenteritis Sep 12 23:36
DaemonFCturns out his wife had itSep 12 23:36
DaemonFCit kept me in the hospital for another two weeksSep 12 23:37
DaemonFCthe only way they could keep fluids in me was through an IVSep 12 23:37
DaemonFCand somehow, a bunch of blood pooled in my stomachSep 12 23:37
DaemonFCI ended up throwing it all upSep 12 23:37
DaemonFCbut not before it ate a hole in my stomach liningSep 12 23:37
DaemonFCwhich apparently will never healSep 12 23:37
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DaemonFCand likes to act up randomlySep 12 23:38
DaemonFCfucking doctorsSep 12 23:38
DaemonFCthey can turn any minor problem into something life threatening Sep 12 23:38
DaemonFCbut they can't cure the coldSep 12 23:38
DaemonFC:)Sep 12 23:38
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msb_Hello?Sep 12 23:39
DaemonFCthe pepto business people make a killing off of meSep 12 23:39
msb_Sorry about the previous transmission.  Sep 12 23:39
msb_Apparently konversation4 had some kind of problem.  I've killed and restarted it.Sep 12 23:40
schestowitzmsb_: np, mateSep 12 23:40
msb_All I did was hit Enter on a blank line.  If it was somehow a long blank line it should have warned me, but didn't.Sep 12 23:41
msb_schestowitz: ok, thanks!Sep 12 23:41
schestowitzmweanwhile, I see that COLA turned into a 9/11 battlegroundSep 12 23:41
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schestowitzThis was inevitableSep 12 23:41
schestowitzLike the arguments there over religionSep 12 23:41
schestowitzWhich is what led to the former :/Sep 12 23:41
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msb_Haven't looked at COLA lately, but here's the best 911 video I've ever seen.  However, it does require some previous knowledge of the subject.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98Sep 12 23:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory       - YouTube .::. Size~: 95.58 KBSep 12 23:43
DaemonFCschestowitz, I think my favorite part of the Tea Party platform is repeal of Sarbanes Oxley. Apparently it costs Microsoft too much to have their CEO and CFO sign a form under penalty of perjury that they didn't engage in fraudulent accounting. Errrr "it crushes businesses with insane compliance costs and damn those SEC people for making sure investors aren't putting their life savings into someone's pipe dream"Sep 12 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Rise and Fall of Rise and Fall http://ur1.ca/52jhd #android #linux #swpats #phone #desktopSep 12 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] The Rise and Fall of Rise and Fall http://ur1.ca/52jhd #formfactor !techrightsSep 12 23:47
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msb_Didn't Sarbanes-Oxley put some restrictions on derivatives, of which there are now something like 2.5 quadrillion dollars worth?Sep 12 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF Analysis: From the Ashes of Righthaven, the Promising Future of Digital Media https://www.eff.org/n/15587Sep 12 23:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From the Ashes of Righthaven, the Promising Future of Digital Media | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 23.59 KBSep 12 23:49
DaemonFC"Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shaSep 12 23:53
DaemonFCll be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both."Sep 12 23:53
DaemonFCI can see what Ballmer doesn't like thatSep 12 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The Qt Project is about to launch http://lwn.net/Articles/458635/rssSep 12 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2011-08-30 - 2011-09-11 http://ow.ly/1eF0saSep 12 23:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Qt Project is about to launch [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.63 KBSep 12 23:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Humm, I think I found a way to troll Wikipedia: create something very notable with the name "Main Page" ;) ur1.ca/9Sep 12 23:56
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