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| schestowitz | hmmm... I'm hungry, but I mistakenly brushed my teeth too early | Sep 17 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | I hate when that happens | Sep 17 00:00 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: So eat and then brush again? | Sep 17 00:01 |
| lol. Vista has flunked out twice, despite the Microsoft vapor lock on OEM and retail channels, and the gnu/linux desktop has already materialized unless I'm a fiction of your imagination. DrPizza: I'm sure Win8 will materialize before linux on the desktop | Sep 17 00:02 | |
| DrPizza | So, Windows 7, with 450 million users, has "flunked", but Linux, with a few million desktop users, has made it? | Sep 17 00:02 |
| Android has already gained dominance on smart phones and tablets. | Sep 17 00:03 | |
| Chrome OS will take what's left of Vista's share. | Sep 17 00:03 | |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: Vista and Windows 7 are both failures when it comes to market share really, since most computers are still running XP that aer used today | Sep 17 00:03 |
| MinceR | m$'s oem agreements will sell 450 million of anything to unwitting or unwilling buyers | Sep 17 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: I do think however that Windows 8 might be a big XP Killer, with hardly any XP computers still being used | Sep 17 00:04 |
| MinceR | so long as their anticompetitive, anticapitalistic practices are allowed to continue | Sep 17 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: however XP will still be supported | Sep 17 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | since the extended support | Sep 17 00:04 |
| nah, it's over. | Sep 17 00:04 | |
| sebsebseb | when they will really be trying to get people using WIndows 8 | Sep 17 00:04 |
| DrPizza | sebsebseb: that's because windows XP had 6 years of sales, and unsurprisingly, you sell more computers in 6 years than you do in 3. | Sep 17 00:04 |
| Microsoft has been losing money and will soon go bankrupt. | Sep 17 00:04 | |
| DrPizza | lol | Sep 17 00:04 |
| Long term plans based on them are foolish. | Sep 17 00:04 | |
| MinceR | ah, so you admit it's about selling computers, not OSes | Sep 17 00:05 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: yes Microsoft do bad stuff with patents and all that, but just want to be clear about something, I am not really really really anti Microsoft, like most of these guys are | Sep 17 00:05 |
| schestowitz | ?? | Sep 17 00:06 |
| Windows XP has been around for nearly a decade and can still be purchased. It's the rate that matters. XP was a slower seller than 98. Vista was slower than XP and Vista 7 was slower still. | Sep 17 00:06 | |
| DrPizza | sebsebseb: I think it's absurd to call windows 7 a failure. It's not even 2 years old yet, and it's already overtaken XP in consumer markets. | Sep 17 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: anyway when XP runs out of support, then those reamining computers that are still being used that run XP, well won't be as many | Sep 17 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | and people will be pretty much forced to upgrade to a later Windows | Sep 17 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | or | Sep 17 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | to use some alternative OS | Sep 17 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. More fake numbers from the Microsoft booster | Sep 17 00:06 |
| DrPizza | twitter: er, Windows 7 has sold faster than XP | Sep 17 00:06 |
| schestowitz | He must be thinking he's that PR head of Microsoft that it hired from W-E | Sep 17 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Fake number | Sep 17 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: what? as far as I know most of the worlds computers still run XP | Sep 17 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | that are still being used by people | Sep 17 00:06 |
| schestowitz | DrPizza: Fedora made 450,000,000,000 sales | Sep 17 00:07 |
| schestowitz | But they're not all used yet | Sep 17 00:07 |
| schestowitz | They have serial numbers :-) | Sep 17 00:07 |
| Microsoft's bottom line keeps falling down. It's because of slow sales. | Sep 17 00:07 | |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: Windows 7 is not all over the place, XP is though | Sep 17 00:07 |
| DrPizza | sebsebseb: in non-corp usage, XP was oveertaken in the last mnth or so | Sep 17 00:07 |
| Vista 7 was way too slow. | Sep 17 00:07 | |
| DrPizza | XP still leads in corp usage | Sep 17 00:07 |
| schestowitz | I produced 4,000,000 copies of my novel | Sep 17 00:07 |
| MinceR | windows is so great many copies that are sold never get used :> | Sep 17 00:07 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: maybe that's true, but Microsoft mainly care about the companies | Sep 17 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Now it's time for them to go off the digital shelf | Sep 17 00:07 |
| DrPizza | sebsebseb: no, they care about both | Sep 17 00:07 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure Ars Technica will happily parrot fake Microdsoft figures | Sep 17 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Gotta beat the PR drum | Sep 17 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't matter if the numbers oare bogus | Sep 17 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Gotta attract advertisers | Sep 17 00:08 |
| cubezzz | I always liked VM/SP :) | Sep 17 00:08 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: it's mainly about comapnies I think, hence why the versions of Windows that are meant to be used by companies, are useauly better than the consumer versions | Sep 17 00:08 |
| lol | Sep 17 00:08 | |
| DrPizza | sebsebseb: most home users have little need for active directory, etc. | Sep 17 00:08 |
| "professional" | Sep 17 00:08 | |
| no one needs active directory | Sep 17 00:08 | |
| schestowitz | all ubuntu releases are professiona | Sep 17 00:08 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: in fact I know a guy online who wil use Windows Server 2003 as his OS at home, instead of XP, becasue 2003 is made better | Sep 17 00:08 |
| schestowitz | There's also Ultimate Edition | Sep 17 00:09 |
| schestowitz | With lots of stuf preloaded | Sep 17 00:09 |
| schestowitz | !google ultimate edition | Sep 17 00:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Ultimate Edition | http://ultimateedition.info/ | Sep 17 00:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Ultimate Edition 2.9 | Ultimate Edition | http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition/ultimate-edition-2-9/ | Sep 17 00:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - DistroWatch.com: Ultimate Edition | http://distrowatch.com/ultimate | Sep 17 00:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Ultimate Edition Oz | http://www.ultimateeditionoz.com/ | Sep 17 00:09 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i use gnu/linux as my os at home, instead of windows, because gnu/linux is made better :> | Sep 17 00:09 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: so yeah he uses Server 2003 as a Desktop OS | Sep 17 00:09 |
| schestowitz | It used to be called Ubuntu Ultimate Edition, I rekon the trademark cleanup of Canonicla set them straight | Sep 17 00:09 |
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| *schestowitz back to reading cables | Sep 17 00:09 | |
| DrPizza | sebsebseb: great, but so what? The 2003/XP split is not really mirrored with Vista/2008 or 7/2008 R2 | Sep 17 00:09 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well Ubuntu isn't that great anymore really, but yeah laods of great altenraitve distros still :D | Sep 17 00:10 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: indeed | Sep 17 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: some of which are actsaully based on Ubuntu though such as Mint | Sep 17 00:10 |
| MinceR | that's why i switched to fedora | Sep 17 00:10 |
| DrPizza | sebsebseb: 2003 had things like IIS6 which were a big deal to devs | Sep 17 00:10 |
| MinceR | i don't see much point in basing on ubuntu | Sep 17 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: same here | Sep 17 00:10 |
| DrPizza | sebsebseb: but vista/2008 and 7/2008R2 are synced | Sep 17 00:10 |
| developers don't care about IIS | Sep 17 00:10 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR:same stufff | Sep 17 00:10 |
| schestowitz | prepackaged differently | Sep 17 00:10 |
| schestowitz | different repos too | Sep 17 00:10 |
| MinceR | admins might care about IIS, when they need to remove all the malware it gathered if they forgot to disable it :> | Sep 17 00:11 |
| MinceR | or when they need to put a gnu/linux reverse proxy in front of it to make it perform less like a blob of molasses | Sep 17 00:11 |
| schestowitz | In roday's news http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/09/16/microsoft-iis-web-server-market-share-loss/ | Sep 17 00:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Royal Pingdom: Microsoft’s web server is losing ground: IIS market share back to 1997 levels .::. Size~: 47.42 KB | Sep 17 00:11 |
| if they have to disable it, they are running the wrong OS | Sep 17 00:11 | |
| MinceR | (that's what microsoft does anyway) | Sep 17 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft... the single-digit brute | Sep 17 00:11 |
| MinceR | two-bit company | Sep 17 00:11 |
| DrPizza | lol | Sep 17 00:11 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: ok fine you seem to like Windows, I kind of like XP still really for example at times. Anyway just curious why are you in here? I mean most of the people who come to this channel, don't like Microsoft much at all. | Sep 17 00:11 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: 2-bit | Sep 17 00:11 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: he's here to troll, like ender was | Sep 17 00:12 |
| schestowitz | only one is used | Sep 17 00:12 |
| DrPizza | sebsebseb: because they like to insult me on their pissant Web site, and I like to laugh at them | Sep 17 00:12 |
| schestowitz | dd | Sep 17 00:12 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: maybe he came to sell mpeg-la patents to us | Sep 17 00:12 |
| schestowitz | zeroing the parrtition | Sep 17 00:12 |
| MinceR | licenses, i mean | Sep 17 00:12 |
| who's insulting you, DrPizza? | Sep 17 00:12 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: nah I woudn't call DrPizza a troll from what I have seen, except for maybe just now in a way, but then again, it's ok to express opinion here normally? freedom of speech? | Sep 17 00:12 |
| DrPizza | twitter: schestowitz does quite regularly. | Sep 17 00:12 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i wouldn't call his style "normal" | Sep 17 00:13 |
| schestowitz | DrPizza: calling you Microsoft booister is not an insult | Sep 17 00:13 |
| really? who are you? | Sep 17 00:13 | |
| ThistleWeb | how can anything be a success if people dont actually opt to buy it, but buy a new pc with it on by default and can't opt out | Sep 17 00:13 |
| schestowitz | It's a factual statement | Sep 17 00:13 |
| schestowitz | And now you do this in IRC too | Sep 17 00:13 |
| MinceR | twitter: some editor at Arse Technica, iirc | Sep 17 00:13 |
| lol | Sep 17 00:13 | |
| DrPizza | ThistleWeb: they can opt out. | Sep 17 00:13 |
| *sebsebseb thinks ThistleWeb made a interesting point | Sep 17 00:13 | |
| DrPizza | ThistleWeb: they just don't. | Sep 17 00:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: writer/contrib | Sep 17 00:13 |
| ThistleWeb | consumers cant | Sep 17 00:13 |
| *MinceR thinks m$ boosters will never get ThistleWeb's point | Sep 17 00:13 | |
| schestowitz | if he edited the site, it would be dead | Sep 17 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: as far as I know, most OEM's pre isntall, WIndows, on the computers they sell to consumers, and that's it | Sep 17 00:14 |
| schestowitz | ars has some god sections | Sep 17 00:14 |
| schestowitz | like their coverage of copyright matters | Sep 17 00:14 |
| schestowitz | I notice that emil quit peter's section | Sep 17 00:14 |
| if that guy is an editor at Ars Technia, Ars Technia is a rag. | Sep 17 00:14 | |
| schestowitz | just a sign of failure IMHO | Sep 17 00:14 |
| ThistleWeb | you buy a PC, it comes with windows, not even listed as a chargable part, they won't sell it without windows | Sep 17 00:14 |
| schestowitz | He went to work for the tabloid called zdnet | Sep 17 00:14 |
| ThistleWeb | so you buy a PC, you pay for windows | Sep 17 00:14 |
| schestowitz | yellow it blogs | Sep 17 00:14 |
| ThistleWeb | even if you dont want it | Sep 17 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: You get insulted on a website? You mean the Techrights blog? | Sep 17 00:15 |
| cubezzz | you can buy a computer without a hard drive, that solves the problem | Sep 17 00:15 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: not always | Sep 17 00:15 |
| ThistleWeb | of course, buy in parts an build, but prebuilt | Sep 17 00:15 |
| ThistleWeb | it's windows or windows | Sep 17 00:15 |
| MinceR | i suspect it depends on what class of computer it is and what country you're ordering from | Sep 17 00:15 |
| schestowitz | twitter: ars has god sections | Sep 17 00:15 |
| schestowitz | and tim b lee used to write there | Sep 17 00:15 |
| schestowitz | now he's in forbes | Sep 17 00:15 |
| cubezzz | or buy used... save a lot of $$$ that way | Sep 17 00:15 |
| schestowitz | nate anderson is still at arse | Sep 17 00:15 |
| cubezzz | the world is drowning in used computers | Sep 17 00:16 |
| So, DrPizza, you think insulting people here will convince Roy that you are not a clown? | Sep 17 00:16 | |
| DrPizza | twitter: insulting who? | Sep 17 00:16 |
| cubezzz | ah, it's Friday FIght Night I see :) | Sep 17 00:16 |
| schestowitz | foul language | Sep 17 00:16 |
| schestowitz | as noted by the op, goblin | Sep 17 00:16 |
| promotion of garbage like Windows 2003 | Sep 17 00:16 | |
| DrPizza | lol | Sep 17 00:16 |
| DrPizza | "foul language" | Sep 17 00:16 |
| DrPizza | lol | Sep 17 00:16 |
| schestowitz | lol indeed | Sep 17 00:16 |
| that's insulting. | Sep 17 00:16 | |
| DrPizza | twitter: no it isn't. | Sep 17 00:17 |
| schestowitz | today he's not using foul language | Sep 17 00:17 |
| schestowitz | he softened with age :-) | Sep 17 00:17 |
| DrPizza | ThistleWeb: there are OEMs who sell PCs without Windows, people are free to buy their products | Sep 17 00:17 |
| I've seen some of his comments. | Sep 17 00:17 | |
| DrPizza | ThistleWeb: but it turns out that, guess what, lots of people want Windows. | Sep 17 00:17 |
| it's not worth researching | Sep 17 00:17 | |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: they want WIndows since that's what they know, since all the lock in there is out there | Sep 17 00:17 |
| MinceR | guess what, lots of people don't want windows | Sep 17 00:17 |
| tessier | Nobody who sells any real volume sells without Windows. | Sep 17 00:17 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: they are brought up using a computer iwth WIndows, at schools, and jobs, and so on, so that's what they know | Sep 17 00:18 |
| DrPizza | MinceR: then they're free to not buy it | Sep 17 00:18 |
| MinceR | DrPizza: sure, they're free to not buy a laptop, for example | Sep 17 00:18 |
| eek, he did it again. my intelligence is insulted -> DrPizza: ThistleWeb: but it turns out that, guess what, lots of people want Windows. | Sep 17 00:18 | |
| MinceR | DrPizza: also, i've put cyanide in your water, but you're free to not drink any | Sep 17 00:18 |
| DrPizza | MinceR: or they could buy a laptop witout Windows | Sep 17 00:18 |
| MinceR | not here, at least not nearly in the same variety | Sep 17 00:18 |
| schestowitz | next thing you know, he;'s tell us that many kids want genital mutilation | Sep 17 00:19 |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: and not many OEM's sell many if any computers that have no OS on them pre installed, and hardly any sell Linux distros pre installed, and some do, but made it hard to buy that, and don't really make it clear to all their customers that they can, for example Dell when it comes to Ubuntu | Sep 17 00:19 |
| MinceR | they might still sell dHells with freedos, but they're still dHells... | Sep 17 00:19 |
| DrPizza | OEMs have tried selling machines with Linux preinstalled | Sep 17 00:19 |
| DrPizza | guess what | Sep 17 00:19 |
| cubezzz | some Dells are OK | Sep 17 00:19 |
| MinceR | guess what, they didn't try it here | Sep 17 00:19 |
| DrPizza | they only managed server sales | Sep 17 00:19 |
| cubezzz | I'm using a Optiplex GX110 right now and it works fine | Sep 17 00:19 |
| MinceR | and guess what, dHell tried hard to make it fail | Sep 17 00:19 |
| DrPizza | MinceR: they tried it in the UK and US, and IDGAF about any other market | Sep 17 00:19 |
| MinceR | very classy | Sep 17 00:19 |
| Actually, Asus is putting out another nice EEE PC. It still conforms to Microsoft's hardware limitations for gnu/linux and "netbooks" but it's a computer without Windows. | Sep 17 00:19 | |
| MinceR | you can't buy an Eee PC without windows in hungary | Sep 17 00:20 |
| schestowitz | asus abandoned windows in soem areas | Sep 17 00:20 |
| it's a new one. | Sep 17 00:20 | |
| sebsebseb | DrPizza: and if they start making it clear that people can buy Ubuntu, yep Dell for example, or Acer even, and make it all clear to all their customers, and provide quite a lot of machines with it pre installed, I guess Micrsooft won't be very happy at all, and then get stupid about them pre installing Windows want more money to do that | Sep 17 00:20 |
| will come with mego | Sep 17 00:20 | |
| schestowitz | Including its new tablets | Sep 17 00:20 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is now working on limiting those too | Sep 17 00:20 |
| schestowitz | And extorting Android makers | Sep 17 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | !google acer ubuntu | Sep 17 00:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - AspireOne - Community Ubuntu Documentation | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne | Sep 17 00:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Ubuntu on Acer | Ubuntu | http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Acer | Sep 17 00:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Linux on Acer Laptops & Notebook Computers | http://www.linux-laptop.net/acer.html | Sep 17 00:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Ubuntu Netbook Remix on the Acer Aspire One | Linux Journal | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ubuntu-netbook-remix-acer-aspire-one-netbook | Sep 17 00:20 |
| schestowitz | But some are laughing Microsoft reps out of the building | Sep 17 00:20 |
| http://liliputing.com/2011/09/hands-on-with-the-asus-eee-pc-x101-meego-netbook.html | Sep 17 00:20 | |
| sebsebseb | !more | Sep 17 00:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hands on with the Asus Eee PC X101 MeeGo netbook - Liliputing .::. Size~: 40.78 KB | Sep 17 00:20 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft doesn't scare them like it used to | Sep 17 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | !google dell ubuntu | Sep 17 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Ubuntu on Dell | Ubuntu | http://www.ubuntu.com/dell | Sep 17 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Desktop Computers & All-In-One Computers – Home & Home ... - Dell | http://www.dell.com/us/p/desktops | Sep 17 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Dell - Dell Linux - Community Web | http://linux.dell.com/ | Sep 17 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Has Dell Dropped Ubuntu Linux? | News & Opinion | PCMag.com | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2366953,00.asp | Sep 17 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | !more | Sep 17 00:21 |
| Microsoft has run out of bribe money. | Sep 17 00:21 | |
| schestowitz | maybe it need to haul some out of other HQs | Sep 17 00:21 |
| cubezzz | anyways using different operating systems is interesting | Sep 17 00:21 |
| schestowitz | Instead of borrowing billions in the US | Sep 17 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: I think so to, but not used that many really. | Sep 17 00:21 |
| cubezzz | got Unix v7 and 2.11BSD running, plus a bunch of others | Sep 17 00:21 |
| I thought buying an older macbook air would be nice. soon enough, Asus and others will have nicer models. | Sep 17 00:22 | |
| schestowitz | if Microsoft market cap falls further it'll have insufficient amount to back loans with | Sep 17 00:22 |
| schestowitz | twitter: it's not just bribe money, android is out of control | Sep 17 00:22 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft can no longer contain it | Sep 17 00:22 |
| right | Sep 17 00:22 | |
| schestowitz | so it uses trolls and patent trolls now | Sep 17 00:22 |
| schestowitz | And extorts | Sep 17 00:22 |
| Microsoft can still punish "partners" | Sep 17 00:23 | |
| schestowitz | Companies also choose Android because it's better than the one-legged camel called WP7 | Sep 17 00:23 |
| DrPizza | yeah, better for being taken to court. | Sep 17 00:23 |
| schestowitz | twitter: like who? | Sep 17 00:23 |
| schestowitz | HP? | Sep 17 00:23 |
| Like they punished Asus. | Sep 17 00:23 | |
| schestowitz | here we have the new talking point | Sep 17 00:24 |
| schestowitz | Abou Android being "illegal" | Sep 17 00:24 |
| schestowitz | Because Microsoft's cartel organises many lawsuits against it | Sep 17 00:24 |
| schestowitz | passing patents to trolls | Sep 17 00:24 |
| DrPizza | lol | Sep 17 00:24 |
| schestowitz | anyway, I don't have time to argue with Internet trolls | Sep 17 00:24 |
| schestowitz | I need to get back to cables and posts | Sep 17 00:24 |
| CableGate is showing collusion to make gnu/linux illegal | Sep 17 00:24 | |
| DrPizza | p. sure it's Apple who's had the galtab 10.1 blocked | Sep 17 00:24 |
| cubezzz | make GNU/Linux illegal? | Sep 17 00:25 |
| anything that lacks DRM will get a trade slap | Sep 17 00:25 | |
| cubezzz | how would they do that? | Sep 17 00:25 |
| Ask Brazil. | Sep 17 00:25 | |
| MinceR | or read the cable about it | Sep 17 00:25 |
| MinceR | http://homembit.com/2011/09/microsofts-attack-on-brazilian-national-sovereignty-wikileaks-microsoft-odf-and-openxml.html | Sep 17 00:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft’s attack on Brazilian national sovereignty: Wikileaks, Microsoft, ODF and OpenXML | void life(void) .::. Size~: 30.11 KB | Sep 17 00:25 |
| Brazil moved towards gnu/linux. Microsoft called it "piracy" and put up trade restrictions. | Sep 17 00:25 | |
| cubezzz | but it's not piracy | Sep 17 00:26 |
| That's really an attack on software freedom. | Sep 17 00:26 | |
| MinceR | see, this is the company these m$ boosters champion | Sep 17 00:26 |
| MinceR | it's not only an attack on software freedom | Sep 17 00:26 |
| It's not piracy, but they say it is and were able to punish. | Sep 17 00:26 | |
| cubezzz | more Linux use would mean less piracy | Sep 17 00:26 |
| MinceR | it's also an attack on standardization and the sovereignty of Brazil and other states. | Sep 17 00:26 |
| attacks on software freedom are all of those attacks at once | Sep 17 00:26 | |
| cubezzz | I was always worried they would lock up the BIOS somehow | Sep 17 00:26 |
| see ACPI | Sep 17 00:27 | |
| MinceR | then again, the m$ booster mentioned "christ" -- maybe this is just part of the fabled "christian morality" | Sep 17 00:27 |
| MinceR | (as in, fuck kids, offer virgin girls for rape, hold people guilty for the sins of their ancestors, etc.) | Sep 17 00:27 |
| Microsoft will continue to insist that gnu/linux is piracy because it lacks digital handcuffs. They want it to be illegal. | Sep 17 00:28 | |
| Because they have succeeded in getting trade restrictions based on gnu/linux use, I'd say they have succeeded in making gnu/linux illegal. | Sep 17 00:29 | |
| cubezzz | anyone can download it and install it though | Sep 17 00:29 |
| DrPizza | MinceR: fyi, fucking kids is more a catholic thing than a christian one, and there a replenty of protestants who regard catholics as non-christian due to their veneration of mary and the saints | Sep 17 00:29 |
| MinceR | DrPizza: yay | Sep 17 00:29 |
| MinceR | that makes you a saint, then | Sep 17 00:29 |
| cubezzz | the genie is out of the bottle twitter | Sep 17 00:29 |
| cubezzz | even local computer stores put out live CDs here | Sep 17 00:30 |
| I would hope so. | Sep 17 00:30 | |
| DrPizza | linux: so bad that even if you give it away, nobody wants it | Sep 17 00:30 |
| MinceR | DrPizza: the person who likes to talk to people he claims don't exist | Sep 17 00:31 |
| ThistleWeb | mary & the saints sounds like a 60's mowtown band | Sep 17 00:31 |
| DrPizza | ThistleWeb: heh | Sep 17 00:31 |
| What do you make of Android, DrPizza? | Sep 17 00:31 | |
| MinceR | it isn't from microsoft, so it's unholy | Sep 17 00:32 |
| MinceR | obviously | Sep 17 00:32 |
| it looks like an easy to use Linux that everyone uses and wants. | Sep 17 00:32 | |
| DrPizza | twitter: there are some interesting parts (e.g. the whole intents system) but of little value on the desktop | Sep 17 00:32 |
| ThistleWeb | choice means allowing people to choose windows if they like, but not forcing them | Sep 17 00:32 |
| Chrome OS has little value? | Sep 17 00:32 | |
| cubezzz | let's see, HDTVs, ereaders, routers, etc, etc | Sep 17 00:32 |
| cubezzz | I think that refutes DrPizza | Sep 17 00:33 |
| MinceR | he's trying to avoid the question | Sep 17 00:33 |
| DrPizza | twitter: chromeOS isn't Android | Sep 17 00:33 |
| MinceR | DrPizza: what do you make of the success of Android? | Sep 17 00:33 |
| DrPizza | twitter: I think ChromeOS would be quite a bit better if it were Android | Sep 17 00:33 |
| DrPizza | twitter: then at least it could run local apps and so would function properly when disconnected from a network | Sep 17 00:33 |
| It's free software, what makes you think ChromeOS won't have local aps? | Sep 17 00:34 | |
| DrPizza | uhhh | Sep 17 00:34 |
| It already functions away from a network. | Sep 17 00:34 | |
| DrPizza | the sandboxing? | Sep 17 00:34 |
| MinceR | he isn't familiar with html5, apparently :> | Sep 17 00:34 |
| you don't think people will make what they want with that sandbox if Chrome OS is free software? | Sep 17 00:35 | |
| or run their own management programs that install the software they want? | Sep 17 00:35 | |
| MinceR | no wonder -- standard html is yet another synonym for devil in the m$ cult | Sep 17 00:35 |
| DrPizza | twitter: it will not really be Chrome OS, but rather a fork, no? | Sep 17 00:35 |
| yes, so what? | Sep 17 00:35 | |
| DrPizza | so you're changing the subject? | Sep 17 00:35 |
| DrPizza | you asked about chrome OS | Sep 17 00:36 |
| DrPizza | not forks of Chrome OS | Sep 17 00:36 |
| Android forks have done nothing to slow down Android's rise to dominance. | Sep 17 00:36 | |
| MinceR | that's rich | Sep 17 00:36 |
| MinceR | DrPizza talks about someone changing the subject | Sep 17 00:36 |
| We're talking about the coming dominance of free software ... on the desktop. | Sep 17 00:36 | |
| DrPizza | lol | Sep 17 00:36 |
| I see, that explains everything. | Sep 17 00:36 | |
| MinceR | ah, the standard m$ fanboy argument, "lol" | Sep 17 00:36 |
| MinceR | we know that all too well here | Sep 17 00:36 |
| DrPizza | twitter: you asked about chrome OS, I answered. | Sep 17 00:36 |
| DrPizza | you are now talkin gabout hypothetical ChromeOS forks | Sep 17 00:37 |
| there's nothing hypothetical about software freedom | Sep 17 00:37 | |
| DrPizza | which ChromeOS forks allow regular local apps? | Sep 17 00:37 |
| !ChomeOS mod | Sep 17 00:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @laurelrusswurm: that's 1 reason 4 yesterday's #DemocracyDay & #DemocracyWeek *now* Most people know something's wrong not what #fairvote | Sep 17 00:37 | |
| !google ChromeOS mod | Sep 17 00:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Chrome Os Hacks | Hack N Mod | http://hacknmod.com/tag/chrome-os/ | Sep 17 00:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Download Google Chrome OS (Virtual Machine) | Hack N Mod | http://hacknmod.com/hack/download-google-chrome-os-virtual-machine/ | Sep 17 00:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - CR-48 notebook pilot program - Chrome OS Forum | http://www.chromeosforums.net/forum/chromebook-forum/36-cr-48-notebook-pilot-program.html | Sep 17 00:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Chrome OS: Cherry modded for Wi-Fi Support | http://techie-buzz.com/foss/chrome-os-cherry-wifi.html | Sep 17 00:37 |
| !google ChromeOS mod local application | Sep 17 00:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - UltraVNC • View topic - Google Chrome OS | https://forum.ultravnc.net/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D4%26t%3D28199 | Sep 17 00:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Chrome OS to get Native Applications [Chromoting] | http://geeknizer.com/chrome-os-native-applications/ | Sep 17 00:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - CR-48 notebook pilot program - Chrome OS Forum | http://www.chromeosforums.net/forum/chromebook-forum/36-cr-48-notebook-pilot-program.html | Sep 17 00:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Google Shows First Chrome OS Laptops - WSJ.com | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703296604576005741472538656.html | Sep 17 00:38 |
| MinceR | http://www.w3.org/TR/offline-webapps/ | Sep 17 00:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Offline Web Applications .::. Size~: 11.83 KB | Sep 17 00:38 |
| DrPizza | MinceR: heh | Sep 17 00:38 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd love to see Microsoft be forced to refund the Windows license for EVERYONE who bought a PC with windows preinstalled and didn't explicitly state they wanted windows, and knew it was a chargable extra | Sep 17 00:38 |
| so, DrPizza, what makes you think ChromeOS won't follow the Android trajectory ? | Sep 17 00:38 | |
| ThistleWeb | with no cut off date, right from day 1 | Sep 17 00:39 |
| *MinceR guesses "blind hope" | Sep 17 00:39 | |
| Steve Ballmer says so. | Sep 17 00:39 | |
| MinceR | that too | Sep 17 00:39 |
| ThistleWeb | let the retailers bring prrof of customers actually seeing an option to buy with or without windows and choosing windows | Sep 17 00:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Busy week at work? Missed the news?! Early bird registrations are now open for #LCA2012 linux.conf.au! bit.ly/pw29oC #linux #opensource | Sep 17 00:39 | |
| DrPizza | twitter: so when do you think ChromeOS will gain a 50% market share? | Sep 17 00:39 |
| three years | Sep 17 00:39 | |
| DrPizza | MinceR: NaCl would be a more relevant link. That's closer to real apps, but still not as good as what Android offers. | Sep 17 00:40 |
| ThistleWeb | anything they can't prove like that, assumes they didn't choose windows, they simply chose a new PC, which only came with windows | Sep 17 00:40 |
| MinceR | DrPizza: you said "local apps" and "offline" | Sep 17 00:40 |
| MinceR | you also complained about "changing the subject" | Sep 17 00:40 |
| DrPizza | MinceR: right, I want apps at least as good as Android offers, which ChromeOS doesn't support | Sep 17 00:40 |
| DrPizza | but Android does | Sep 17 00:40 |
| MinceR | define "good" | Sep 17 00:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged "Democracy Week" http://ur1.ca/53trw .... trying to get a plug in for tonight's event , published w/o all photos ... still adding :) | Sep 17 00:41 | |
| ChromeOS will offer things Microsoft and Apple can't match. It already does cool things like remote printing. | Sep 17 00:41 | |
| MinceR | also, the discussion isn't about what you want, but about market share and installed base | Sep 17 00:41 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 17 00:41 |
| like printing from your cell phone. | Sep 17 00:41 | |
| to your desktop | Sep 17 00:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Democracy Week « Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 44.29 KB | Sep 17 00:41 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd love to see every retailer list with / without windows, including the price of windows as a separate item.....THEN they can say people CHOOSE windows | Sep 17 00:42 |
| DrPizza | MinceR: native-level performance, filesystem access, persistent, disconnected operation, etc. | Sep 17 00:42 |
| advantages like that will put ChromeOS on top of purchasing lists. It's already been there at Amazon. | Sep 17 00:42 | |
| DrPizza | MinceR: stuff that HTML5 only really offers a subset of. | Sep 17 00:42 |
| ThistleWeb | what they can't do is call it a "windows sale", when it's a license | Sep 17 00:43 |
| Microsoft's continuing decline and ChromeOS advantages will make ChromeOS a no brainer at big business. | Sep 17 00:43 | |
| DrPizza | twitter: in 3 years? lol | Sep 17 00:43 |
| yes | Sep 17 00:43 | |
| DrPizza | I don't think ChromeOS will even crack 10% in 3 years | Sep 17 00:43 |
| you don't think so much as you curse | Sep 17 00:44 | |
| MinceR | he hopes, i just don't know for what | Sep 17 00:44 |
| anyone who can still say things about "linux" after the rise of Android is not thinking at all | Sep 17 00:44 | |
| MinceR | in general, what do microsoft fanboys expect from microsoft's success? nothing will trickle down to them from anything m$ ever does, just crappy products and diminished freedom | Sep 17 00:44 |
| MinceR | cheering for windows in general requires "not thinking at all" | Sep 17 00:45 |
| an editor at Ars Technia will get a few perks. | Sep 17 00:45 | |
| MinceR | but for how long? | Sep 17 00:45 |
| maybe a ride on Paul's big boat. | Sep 17 00:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz that's a lovely idea (always in the mood for steak tho pinned down by sleeping cat and thus unable 2 get even a peanutbutter sandwich) | Sep 17 00:46 | |
| I imagine Paul's boat will be sailing for quite some time. | Sep 17 00:46 | |
| MinceR | what if microsoft takes over all the governments of the world using monopoly and backdoors? | Sep 17 00:46 |
| they already have | Sep 17 00:46 | |
| those governments need to liberate themselves | Sep 17 00:46 | |
| MinceR | what if they gain 100% market share in all computer-based devices and issue an ultimatum "set up the new world government with us in all the leading position or we're shutting all your electronics down"? | Sep 17 00:48 |
| someone would nuke them | Sep 17 00:49 | |
| MinceR | it's folly to think that they'll give anything to the little people who propped them up | Sep 17 00:49 |
| that's true | Sep 17 00:49 | |
| a ride on a boat is cheap | Sep 17 00:49 | |
| MinceR | yet they go around chanting praises for not only m$'s products but also their conduct | Sep 17 00:49 |
| almost as cheap as the whores on it | Sep 17 00:49 | |
| Such perks go a long way to buying favorable press. | Sep 17 00:50 | |
| If that does not make sense, it's because it does not make sense for people to fall for it. | Sep 17 00:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/slashdot/status/114808890666926080 | Sep 17 00:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @slashdot: 6.6 Magnitude Earthquake Off the Coast of Japan http://t.co/iqn5ds8Q | Sep 17 00:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 17 00:54 |
| schestowitz | another ms advert from /. this evening https://twitter.com/slashdot/status/114826213339570177 | Sep 17 00:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @slashdot: Ballmer Hints At 'Metro-ization' of Office http://t.co/z4aujr6C | Sep 17 00:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 17 00:54 |
| uh oh | Sep 17 00:54 | |
| MinceR | wow | Sep 17 00:54 |
| MinceR | the ribbon didn't make office unusable enough? | Sep 17 00:54 |
| schestowitz | wait until some skyscraper in japan falls... and people like brandon might call it "controlled demolition" | Sep 17 00:55 |
| schestowitz | "it fell too beautifually!" | Sep 17 00:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I'm not sure it's causal at /. | Sep 17 00:55 |
| schestowitz | maybe the devils saw the metroffice | Sep 17 00:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Lord Mandelson Meets the Qaddafi Family and Dates the Copyright Lobby http://is.gd/HQ74Ca after hours of reading. #wlfind | Sep 17 00:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Lord Mandelson Meets the Qaddafi Family and Dates the Copyright Lobby http://is.gd/HQ74Ca #mandelson #uk #debill #deact !wl | Sep 17 00:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: Lord Mandelson Meets the Qaddafi Family and Dates the Copyright Lobby | Techrights .::. Size~: 226.87 KB | Sep 17 00:56 |
| schestowitz | and cause the tactonic plates to shake a littkle | Sep 17 00:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: Lord Mandelson Meets the Qaddafi Family and Dates the Copyright Lobby | Techrights .::. Size~: 226.87 KB | Sep 17 00:56 |
| schestowitz | who would actually choose office when it's online? | Sep 17 00:58 |
| schestowitz | there's no compelling reason anymore | Sep 17 00:58 |
| schestowitz | unless you'e an OOXML fan like Miguel dePizza | Sep 17 00:58 |
| MinceR | there are many irrational reasons | Sep 17 00:59 |
| MinceR | such as "the company it's from is really rich, therefore it must be great" | Sep 17 00:59 |
| schestowitz | It is | Sep 17 00:59 |
| I'm not sure how the Microsoft people get away with saying "stick with what's familiar" while changing everything users care about. | Sep 17 00:59 | |
| schestowitz | its cofoudner sat next to Jesus Jobs | Sep 17 00:59 |
| MinceR | twitter: users are stupid, that's how | Sep 17 00:59 |
| some are | Sep 17 01:00 | |
| MinceR | they probably don't know they could look for alternatives | Sep 17 01:00 |
| but it's more a monopoly trick | Sep 17 01:00 | |
| cubezzz | people are more savvy now, it's just that everyone uses computers now | Sep 17 01:00 |
| schestowitz | oh, and don't use the "poor jobs is dying" to defend jobs from criticism btw | Sep 17 01:00 |
| http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110912/13500315912/hollywood-accounting-darth-vader-not-getting-paid-because-return-jedi-still-isnt-profitable.shtml | Sep 17 01:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hollywood Accounting: Darth Vader Not Getting Paid, Because Return Of The Jedi Still Isn't Profitable | Techdirt .::. Size~: 265.17 KB | Sep 17 01:00 |
| schestowitz | I'm ted of this | Sep 17 01:00 |
| schestowitz | I started teasing mac isiots by justust doing this on purpose to test their reactions | Sep 17 01:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 17 01:00 |
| schestowitz | Hey, I'm sure that even if he died, he'd be resurrected after a fw days and ascend to Heaven | Sep 17 01:01 |
| MinceR | "ban cancer, because cancer is killing jobs" | Sep 17 01:01 |
| through the shiny glass doors | Sep 17 01:01 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: | Sep 17 01:01 |
| schestowitz | !google apple is killing jobs | Sep 17 01:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Apple is Killing Jobs, Killing Products | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/08/10/apple-destructive-company/ | Sep 17 01:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Steve Jobs Doesn't Want to Kill Publishers, But Apple's Subscription ... | http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/19/apple-kill-publishers/ | Sep 17 01:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Apple IPad Killing US Jobs, Says Clueless Congressman | The Daily ... | http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed/2011/04/18/apple-ipad-killing-us-jobs/ | Sep 17 01:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Jesse Jackson Jr | iPad Kills Jobs | Video | Mediaite | http://www.mediaite.com/online/rep-jesse-jackson-jr-says-apples-ipad-kills-american-jobs/ | Sep 17 01:01 |
| Jobs' spirit fills the empty spaces of Apple stores everywhere | Sep 17 01:02 | |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 17 01:02 |
| schestowitz | mind the date | Sep 17 01:02 |
| schestowitz | that was when he still served as CEO | Sep 17 01:02 |
| schestowitz | so att hen time it wasn't tasteless | Sep 17 01:02 |
| !google jobs is killing apple | Sep 17 01:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Apple is Killing Jobs, Killing Products | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/08/10/apple-destructive-company/ | Sep 17 01:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Jon Bon Jovi: 'Apple's Steve Jobs is killing the music business ... | http://www.nme.com/news/bon-jovi/55450 | Sep 17 01:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Steve Jobs is killing Apple - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DD0S9J0oJjNc | Sep 17 01:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Jesse Jackson Jr | iPad Kills Jobs | Video | Mediaite | http://www.mediaite.com/online/rep-jesse-jackson-jr-says-apples-ipad-kills-american-jobs/ | Sep 17 01:02 |
| MinceR | considering jobs' conduct, it never is tasteless | Sep 17 01:02 |
| !google you are killing me | Sep 17 01:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Stop, You're Killing Me! | http://www.stopyourekillingme.com/ | Sep 17 01:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Urban Dictionary: You're killing me | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3DYou%27re%2520killing%2520me | Sep 17 01:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - You Kill Me (2007) - IMDb | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796375/ | Sep 17 01:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - You Killing Me's sounds on SoundCloud - Create, record and share ... | http://soundcloud.com/youkillingme | Sep 17 01:03 |
| schestowitz | to some people who worship apple it is | Sep 17 01:03 |
| MinceR | they can get screwed | Sep 17 01:03 |
| schestowitz | and riling them up to test the warer can be interesting | Sep 17 01:03 |
| schestowitz | it's like when you insult someone's religion | Sep 17 01:03 |
| schestowitz | or yaweh, or naild son | Sep 17 01:03 |
| MinceR | it's exactly insulting someone's religion | Sep 17 01:03 |
| Jobs got cancer and died, how gauche | Sep 17 01:03 | |
| MinceR | apple and microsoft are religions | Sep 17 01:03 |
| MinceR | twitter: maybe he'll make cancer cool | Sep 17 01:04 |
| schestowitz | many people die frommcancer all the time | Sep 17 01:04 |
| schestowitz | probably hundreds of thousands a day | Sep 17 01:04 |
| like black shirts and sneakers ? | Sep 17 01:04 | |
| MinceR | "die from cancer different"? | Sep 17 01:04 |
| schestowitz | some of them were harmless to civilisation | Sep 17 01:04 |
| schestowitz | unlike jobs | Sep 17 01:04 |
| die different | Sep 17 01:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Want to go to #LCA2012 linux.conf.au? Not sure how to convince your boss to send you? We can help! http://bit.ly/pq8x4P | Sep 17 01:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @boycottnovell Cablegate: Lord Mandelson Meets the Qaddafi Family and Dates the Copyright Lobby http://is.gd/HQ74Ca #mandelson #uk #d ... | Sep 17 01:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Convincing your boss to send you to linux.conf.au - linux.conf.au 2012 | 16 - 20 Jan | Under the stars .::. Size~: 22.9 KB | Sep 17 01:04 |
| get the gaunt look | Sep 17 01:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: Lord Mandelson Meets the Qaddafi Family and Dates the Copyright Lobby | Techrights .::. Size~: 226.87 KB | Sep 17 01:04 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 17 01:04 |
| schestowitz | so why should I care about a cancer patient in his 60s more thana child with cancer? | Sep 17 01:04 |
| schestowitz | I lost family mambers to cancer | Sep 17 01:04 |
| schestowitz | members | Sep 17 01:04 |
| MinceR | you might lose your freedom to this one | Sep 17 01:05 |
| pediatric cancer is far more distressing that the injustice that happens to old people | Sep 17 01:05 | |
| schestowitz | liekke pension of baby boomers? | Sep 17 01:05 |
| schestowitz | I know some old people who have no retirement fund | Sep 17 01:06 |
| schestowitz | I can imagine they'd have to leave on meager benefits enough barely for food... till they die | Sep 17 01:06 |
| I was referring to the ordinary cancer I look at every day. | Sep 17 01:06 | |
| schestowitz | One heck of a "retirement" to look forward to, eh? | Sep 17 01:06 |
| The other stuff is distressing. | Sep 17 01:06 | |
| schestowitz | cancer takes many forusms | Sep 17 01:07 |
| According to Obama, retirement and medical care are "entitlements" | Sep 17 01:07 | |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure why it's classified as it is | Sep 17 01:07 |
| schestowitz | today I met a friend of mine who's a heart surgeon and deals with one type of it | Sep 17 01:07 |
| schestowitz | some people get cancer from smoking | Sep 17 01:07 |
| schestowitz | in which case they partly have themselves to blame | Sep 17 01:07 |
| smoking gives lots of people cancer, it should not be legal to sell that trash. | Sep 17 01:08 | |
| schestowitz | but for other forms of cancer it's more likely that they contributed nothing towards the fate, not knowingly anyway | Sep 17 01:08 |
| burning coal is next in line | Sep 17 01:08 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: well, banning it is taking away one's freedom | Sep 17 01:08 |
| schestowitz | I'm against banning it | Sep 17 01:08 |
| MinceR | why not let people choose? | Sep 17 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Just respecting peopl's freedom not to be subjected to other peoipel's smoke | Sep 17 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Which is where laws have been heading anyway | Sep 17 01:09 |
| banning sales is different from banning the thing | Sep 17 01:09 | |
| MinceR | the information is available, they should be able to make an informed decision | Sep 17 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Freedom is OK, but when it takes away the freedom of others, then... | Sep 17 01:09 |
| MinceR | not very different | Sep 17 01:09 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: twitter schestowitz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hq95vtoS28 | Sep 17 01:09 |
| my neighbors smoke. | Sep 17 01:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Reimagines Windows, Presents Windows 8 Developer Preview - YouTube .::. Size~: 93.8 KB | Sep 17 01:09 |
| I'm not free to escape it. | Sep 17 01:09 | |
| sebsebseb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hq95vtoS28 | Sep 17 01:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Reimagines Windows, Presents Windows 8 Developer Preview - YouTube .::. Size~: 94.06 KB | Sep 17 01:09 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: what's this one about? | Sep 17 01:09 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: them showing it at some thing heh heh | Sep 17 01:09 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: it's not slashddot here | Sep 17 01:09 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: heh heh | Sep 17 01:10 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather than bask in the idiocy of marketing from Microsoft | Sep 17 01:10 |
| but few would say that people can't smoke in their homes | Sep 17 01:10 | |
| schestowitz | I did some denting about it, never actually linked to the Microsoft PR | Sep 17 01:10 |
| schestowitz | intentially | Sep 17 01:10 |
| schestowitz | (intentionally | Sep 17 01:10 |
| I'd like to make it difficult for people to profit from selling poison that stinks up my day, every day. | Sep 17 01:10 | |
| sebsebseb | twitter: Windows 8 you mean? | Sep 17 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | oh smoking | Sep 17 01:11 |
| schestowitz | same thing | Sep 17 01:11 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Sep 17 01:11 |
| no, for Vista, I'd rather remove government protection : copyright on binary files | Sep 17 01:11 | |
| that would take care of a lot | Sep 17 01:11 | |
| only source code should enjoy government copyright protection | Sep 17 01:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/slashdot/status/114826213339570177 | Sep 17 01:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @slashdot: Ballmer Hints At 'Metro-ization' of Office http://t.co/z4aujr6C | Sep 17 01:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 17 01:12 |
| because only source code is human readable and can enter the public domain. | Sep 17 01:12 | |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: now i know throwing a GUI designed for people who are too stupid to understand the file system on top of something is "reimagining it from the bottom" | Sep 17 01:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLL41FlIMsQ | Sep 17 01:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Brett Keane and/or Poop - YouTube .::. Size~: 94.58 KB | Sep 17 01:12 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2005/11/21/windows-is-smoking/ | Sep 17 01:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Windows is Like… Smoking .::. Size~: 31.59 KB | Sep 17 01:13 |
| MinceR | wow, "applications can be side by side" | Sep 17 01:13 |
| "Ballmer goes Metro" the low stuff that Microsoft dips to for buzz. | Sep 17 01:13 | |
| MinceR | it's really this, after all >> http://charlie.amigaspirit.hu/temp/windows-1-vs-8.jpeg | Sep 17 01:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Sep 17 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah one of those Micrsooft's videos, it's like, here's the file system, your photos go there | Sep 17 01:14 |
| bbl | Sep 17 01:15 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's a matter of taste, but vista8 looks like **** to me | Sep 17 01:15 |
| schestowitz | It looks uglier thqan the vista mockups (llnghorn) Microsoft shows in a 2002 demo) | Sep 17 01:16 |
| schestowitz | "Coming in 2003" LOL | Sep 17 01:16 |
| schestowitz | Vista came in 2007 and bombed | Sep 17 01:16 |
| MinceR | finally, your pc can display as little data on a 22" screen as on a 3" screen | Sep 17 01:17 |
| MinceR | because that's what you always wanted! | Sep 17 01:17 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Sep 17 01:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why trying to control culture doesn't work: “http://twitpic.com/462u37” | Sep 17 01:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | Sep 17 01:17 |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*brandon@d72-38-2-153.commercial1.cgocable.net | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| MinceR | fixing our current shortage of trolls? :> | Sep 17 01:18 |
| *schestowitz removes ban on Fike!*@* | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on 30BAAVSPC!*@* | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on 14WAASEE8!*@* | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*q@31.64.32.229 | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*q@31.64.32.* | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*None@*.upc-e.chello.nl | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*Fike@*.modeltele.com | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*@rev-crew.info | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*@gateway/*/ip.71.209.128.196 | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*@gateway/*/ip.24.117.* | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*@gateway/*/ip.24.116.* | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*@*.cpe.cableone.net | Sep 17 01:18 | |
| schestowitz | load the bb gun | Sep 17 01:19 |
| MinceR | you mean the ban gun? | Sep 17 01:19 |
| schestowitz | It's beter to keep tight lists | Sep 17 01:19 |
| MinceR | it would be better to keep an AKICK list | Sep 17 01:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @reality @psquid what counts though, i lump daft punk in with prodigy etc usually | Sep 17 01:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @reality @psquid MORE THAN EVER HOUR AFTER . OUR WORK IS NEVER OVER | Sep 17 01:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why trying to control culture doesn't work: http://twitpic.com/462u37 /via @neptune78 | Sep 17 01:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: If you've ever "walked in" on your parents, yo... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 11.68 KB | Sep 17 01:19 |
| schestowitz | I don't even know what those bans are | Sep 17 01:19 |
| MinceR | that doesn't go against the channel ban list limit | Sep 17 01:19 |
| MinceR | well, the gateway bans were on snit | Sep 17 01:19 |
| MinceR | and the cableone one was too | Sep 17 01:19 |
| schestowitz | I think there's only one trolls till actively purusing diruption of channels | Sep 17 01:19 |
| MinceR | the others were probably bot abusers, flooders and such | Sep 17 01:20 |
| schestowitz | You have another chance to show why they're banned | Sep 17 01:20 |
| schestowitz | I personally don't like banning people, it backfires... but sometimes others get fed up | Sep 17 01:21 |
| MinceR | if we bumped into a limit on the AKICK list (i'm not sure if it does), we can still maintain a bot to remember bans and enforce them | Sep 17 01:21 |
| schestowitz | And then that ruuins the channel | Sep 17 01:21 |
| schestowitz | see /. | Sep 17 01:21 |
| MinceR | i don't see it backfire | Sep 17 01:21 |
| schestowitz | They were too open | Sep 17 01:21 |
| schestowitz | Open to Apple | Sep 17 01:21 |
| schestowitz | Open to Microsoft | Sep 17 01:21 |
| MinceR | i saw the noise from trolls ruin the channel | Sep 17 01:21 |
| schestowitz | And it become Noise for Geekls | Sep 17 01:21 |
| MinceR | having to explain the same old simple things 20x to various idiots who pretended to be ignorant | Sep 17 01:21 |
| MinceR | and turned out to be cultists | Sep 17 01:21 |
| schestowitz | News in Greek | Sep 17 01:21 |
| MinceR | when we could discuss technology and legal threats instead | Sep 17 01:21 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 17 01:22 |
| schestowitz | If they troll, it'll be evident right away | Sep 17 01:22 |
| MinceR | it always was | Sep 17 01:22 |
| MinceR | yet we didn't ban them most of the time | Sep 17 01:22 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 17 01:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] and then TAKE her TO THE HOSPITAL #Prodigy | Sep 17 01:22 | |
| schestowitz | they moved on to trolling elsewhere | Sep 17 01:22 |
| MinceR | i think we'd have a nicer and smoother experience if we banned people like snit and ender more quickly | Sep 17 01:22 |
| MinceR | that's Someone Else's Problem | Sep 17 01:23 |
| schestowitz | I think ender -- like daemon -- improved over time because he saw some boundaries | Sep 17 01:23 |
| MinceR | i don't think so | Sep 17 01:23 |
| schestowitz | Remember how daemon used to trolls here radivcally? | Sep 17 01:23 |
| schestowitz | He does less trolling these days | Sep 17 01:23 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 17 01:23 |
| schestowitz | I saw other channels he's in | Sep 17 01:24 |
| schestowitz | kde | Sep 17 01:24 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu | Sep 17 01:24 |
| schestowitz | kubuntu | Sep 17 01:24 |
| schestowitz | xfs iirc | Sep 17 01:24 |
| schestowitz | they don't ban him, either | Sep 17 01:24 |
| MinceR | ender, on the other hand, just keeps calling free software proponents "communists" and the like | Sep 17 01:24 |
| schestowitz | back in the days he got banned from everywhere | Sep 17 01:24 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Sep 17 01:24 |
| schestowitz | I think xchat to him as usefless | Sep 17 01:24 |
| schestowitz | Won't connect to any channel with people in it | Sep 17 01:24 |
| schestowitz | Like he was a leper | Sep 17 01:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: na, he just uses "communist" as a dog whistle | Sep 17 01:25 |
| schestowitz | Gets him more attention | Sep 17 01:25 |
| MinceR | "getting attention" is all he ever does | Sep 17 01:25 |
| schestowitz | But only dogs bark back at him | Sep 17 01:26 |
| ThistleWeb | interesting term "appologist", in the context of "Microsoft apologist" it means making excuses for Microsofts bad behaviour, rather than recognise it.....does the word "apologist" change when it enters here in terms of long term regular trolling? | Sep 17 01:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I think so... don't remember who, but I'm pretty sure someone said Monday @reality | Sep 17 01:26 | |
| schestowitz | Th rest ignore, or don't hear/see him (/ignore) | Sep 17 01:26 |
| MinceR | trying to come up with the vilest stupid stuff just to get a flamewar started | Sep 17 01:26 |
| MinceR | ThistleWeb: i think it's sense 2 of http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/apologist | Sep 17 01:26 |
| ThistleWeb | what I'm seeing now is an apologist for ender etc and their trolling, argueing | Sep 17 01:26 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: I think in the context of religious itn was originally used | Sep 17 01:26 |
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| schestowitz | the "aplogistics" | Sep 17 01:27 |
| ThistleWeb | trolling = well it's ok because it's not as bad as it was before, or he only does it sometimes | Sep 17 01:27 |
| schestowitz | "out of context!" "God was just testing him" (apologising for god like a PR agent) | Sep 17 01:27 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: if you expect everyone to ignore a given troll, then it's almost certainly better to ban him instead | Sep 17 01:27 |
| MinceR | anyone who does not ignore him will feed him | Sep 17 01:27 |
| schestowitz | ender can be asked nicely | Sep 17 01:28 |
| ThistleWeb | can't really out and complain about apologists for others bad behaviour when you don't deal with it on your own patch | Sep 17 01:28 |
| ThistleWeb | so can microsoft | Sep 17 01:28 |
| schestowitz | or to keep OT stuff in social channel | Sep 17 01:28 |
| schestowitz | he was told this before, maybe he forgot | Sep 17 01:28 |
| ThistleWeb | it will get the same response | Sep 17 01:28 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft just gives OEM what they want" | Sep 17 01:29 |
| ThistleWeb | you can ask anyone to do anything | Sep 17 01:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] starting the day off with 'Omen'... thanks to the @reality kick to the head! | Sep 17 01:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @JorgeStolfi As the royalty extortion mafia extends its claws, people are gradually realizing !copyright ... is a crime against mankind. | Sep 17 01:29 | |
| ThistleWeb | the key is whether or not they actually care enough to do as asked | Sep 17 01:29 |
| schestowitz | "users don't need tethering, Microsoft is right for not supporting it..." | Sep 17 01:29 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: there's a mactroll in all channels other than this | Sep 17 01:30 |
| schestowitz | And he seems to have chosen to show STFU | Sep 17 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Because he knows the limits | Sep 17 01:31 |
| MinceR | he'll be back, since you unbanned him | Sep 17 01:31 |
| ThistleWeb | and they say others change the subject | Sep 17 01:31 |
| schestowitz | It's like dspanking without the spanking :-) | Sep 17 01:31 |
| MinceR | and he doesn't know the limits | Sep 17 01:31 |
| ThistleWeb | I thought the trigger for this discussion was ender in this channel | Sep 17 01:31 |
| MinceR | he evaded the ban and come back and personally attacked someone present immediately | Sep 17 01:31 |
| schestowitz | he also created a site dedicated to attacking me | Sep 17 01:31 |
| ThistleWeb | not a mactroll inothers | Sep 17 01:31 |
| MinceR | s*it was here too | Sep 17 01:31 |
| schestowitz | I think he wakes up in the morning just thinking about techrights and making a mmmmwahaha-styl;e laugh | Sep 17 01:31 |
| MinceR | before cubezzz (iirc) got fed up with him | Sep 17 01:32 |
| schestowitz | remember mutex? :-) | Sep 17 01:32 |
| ThistleWeb | as I said, when you refuse to take action, and apologise for someone elses bad behaviour, you do exactly what other apologists do | Sep 17 01:32 |
| MinceR | yes | Sep 17 01:32 |
| schestowitz | He would choose nicks that are insults | Sep 17 01:32 |
| schestowitz | And try to insult merely by entering the chnnel | Sep 17 01:32 |
| schestowitz | he's gone... | Sep 17 01:33 |
| MinceR | there might have been a ban on him | Sep 17 01:33 |
| schestowitz | maybe thry'll get glued onto Pogson | Sep 17 01:33 |
| ThistleWeb | not only that, but by standing on a soapbox bemoaning the other apologists, you scream to the world that you're a hypocrite | Sep 17 01:33 |
| schestowitz | Some of the same trolls attacking COLSA, this channel, other Linux advocacy sites, SJVN.. | Sep 17 01:33 |
| schestowitz | They even use the same nick, like they're some kind of taskforce | Sep 17 01:33 |
| schestowitz | Mono groupies used to work like this | Sep 17 01:33 |
| schestowitz | Tryint o dismantle oppisition | Sep 17 01:34 |
| MinceR | i wonder what they hope to gain from it | Sep 17 01:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Not ready to do a major linux.conf.au presentation but interested? Submit to a Miniconf instead! http://bit.ly/q2vVHg #LCA2012 | Sep 17 01:34 | |
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| schestowitz | I wonder what cables to look at next | Sep 17 01:34 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to look at just one single subject at the time, we will be better off diversifying | Sep 17 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Just got this: http://twitter.com/wayneborean/status/114853752107839488?iid=am-22609974913162182433600904&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Sep 17 01:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @wayneborean: @laurelrusswurm @schestowitz @eebrah @windigo @HSM_Satan We should make #BoycottSony official. #Sony treats customers like thieves. | Sep 17 01:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder how much demand there is for an apologists club | Sep 17 01:41 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=08LONDON1991 | Sep 17 01:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[funtoo/@funtoo] #funtoo is growing! See http://forums.funtoo.org/viewtopic.php?id=745 | Sep 17 01:56 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Sep 17 02:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] melamine enriched white rabbit! | Sep 17 02:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Are Mobile-Style Interfaces Leaving Desktop Power Users Behind? http://tinyurl.com/4xme5ug #windows8 #linux | Sep 17 02:16 | |
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| I'm toying with a replacement for the term "legacy software" which gives undeserved dignity and gravity to garbage like Windows. | Sep 17 02:20 | |
| Relic | Sep 17 02:20 | |
| I think that works better than antique | Sep 17 02:21 | |
| it also has overtones of institutionalism, inquisition and other madness | Sep 17 02:21 | |
| relicware | Sep 17 02:22 | |
| http://onlinedealsandoffers.com/303/ast-relicware-laptop-computer-for-sale-on-ebay-what-junk/ | Sep 17 02:23 | |
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| "That bank's IT department is a real Microsoft reliquary." | Sep 17 02:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Judge attacks car insurer's repair costs http://is.gd/JIZIbK #profiteering at the very least #RSA | Sep 17 02:29 | |
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| "Various versions of Microsoft Word and other relics of the non free software world may be preserved in virtual machines for decades until the documents are liberated" | Sep 17 02:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Lawyers In Hell - Volume 13 of the #HeroesInHell Shared Universe Series Created By Janet Morris - Review: http://is.gd/bKiH67 | Sep 17 02:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Looks like it's a Star Wars Original Trilogy Weekend at our house :) #starwars | Sep 17 02:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @glynmoody: Open Source Drug Discovery for Malaria - http://bit.ly/q6I64Y a bit old, but important; don't miss the "6 laws" at the end | Sep 17 02:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @laurelrusswurm: #NotW Phone hacking: Scotland Yard seeks Official Secrets Act court order 2 reveal Guardian sources http://ur1.ca/53reh | Sep 17 02:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @wayneborean funny you mention that now; Why #StarWars should be left to the fans http://is.gd/5HQVVe | Sep 17 02:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #iPhone Developer Creates App Criticizing The iPhone; App Is Quickly Pulled http://is.gd/atnBd8 - another #Apple #controlfreak story | Sep 17 02:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Conservative MP piloting legal aid cuts may profit from the changes http://gu.com/p/32xbh they try hard to earn the "self serving bastards" | Sep 17 02:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] #FF @TanyaHuff @Vryka @CJCherryh @JaneSFancher @Chevenga @karinlow @KristenLambTX @manon_eileen @RASJacobson | Sep 17 02:47 | |
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| schestowitz | tessier: that apache issue happend again, last hours before noticd and rstarted | Sep 17 08:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Identica will go down tonight, back up Monday: Upgrading Identi.ca and other StatusNet cloud sites http://ur1.ca/53d0o ...thanks @lohang :) | Sep 17 08:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] F/OSS & IT Consultant in !China, follow http://weibo.cn/gbraad #OpenSource #Linux #Fedora #MeeGo #Firefox #JavsScript #HTML5 | Sep 17 08:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] I'll be giving a talk at SFD Boston (http://ur1.ca/4zp3u) on getting involved in Debian. The day looks awesome! You should come! #sfd2011 | Sep 17 08:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Last Breath #Torchwood | Sep 17 08:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #PlanB #Torchwood | Sep 17 08:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @delparnel: On this week's @SlightlySauced we interview #KitWat #NDP @IsabelCisterna http://ur1.ca/53vg0 !ONpoli !ONelxn Please RT! | Sep 17 08:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This is kind of fun.... every det I make I get to hold my breath to see if it goes or if !Identica is down yet :o | Sep 17 08:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] det = dent (cat sleeping on lap puts me 1 cat-width farther from my screen (pushes the boundaries of my glasses, makes abysmal typing worse) | Sep 17 08:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren (D-CA): Protect IP provisions are a mess https://eff.org/r.C7f #pipa #copyfight | Sep 17 08:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone know of a #mumble 1.2.3 deb for #debian stable? I'm struggling to compile | Sep 17 08:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] alright, I now have all of my home machines registered at http://is.gd/W52iDe ; bask in the computational glory http://is.gd/EpFvL7 | Sep 17 08:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Stop the Execution of Troy Davis http://signon.org/s/4dKLZq | Sep 17 08:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell DA Larry Chisolm there's #toomuchdoubt to execute #TroyDavis http://is.gd/4r6L0m | Sep 17 08:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Don’t let Congress sweep the #Murdoch scandal under the rug. Take action and demand an investigation: http://bit.ly/rsqpu1 | Sep 17 08:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] FDA admits rich people try to kill Americans http://is.gd/jTVLCS | Sep 17 08:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @linuxtoy #FAD 2011 北京主题演讲材料准备 http://linuxtoy.org/archives/fad-2011-beijing-slide-preparation.html < !Fedora !China !Beijing | Sep 17 08:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Dr Conan T. Barbarian Ph.D http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0915/breaking36.html | Sep 17 08:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] What is your Member of Parliament is spending? Visit Library and Archives Canada - Proactive Disclosure http://is.gd/SAJGAC #cdnpoli | Sep 17 08:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @brashley46: CRTC Takes First Step to Force Big Telecom Giant to Play Fair | OpenMedia.ca - http://to.ly/b9t4 http://b1t.it/Ck1 | Sep 17 08:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Home made bombs sent to physicists in Mexico http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110822/full/476373a.html !science | Sep 17 08:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @wxl Epic Rap Battles Of History #7: Einstein v. Stephen Hawking http://v.gd/y7cYoe !science #physics #fb | Sep 17 08:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: Oh !Canada: #Democracy Week ~ Waterloo Region http://ur1.ca/53trw !CdnPoli !ONpoli !Fairvote | Sep 17 08:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !InconstantMoon: Chapter 113 ~ Saturday's novel serialization is online: http://ur1.ca/53wa6 | Sep 17 08:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] w00t! made it in the nick of time ;D | Sep 17 08:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Should word-of-mouth be child's play for advertisers? http://is.gd/jIMvLI | Sep 17 08:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @fairvotewrc !DemocracyWeek is an initative of @FairVoteCanada, not Elections Canada http://is.gd/n8BceO #FactFreeNews from @thestaro ... | Sep 17 08:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] When the Star makes a factual error, they can't even say "thanks" for doing for giving them free what they used to pay proof readers for? | Sep 17 08:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Maybe Jay Rosen got it wrong... maybe the watchdog #press isn't dead, it's just incompetent. In !Canada, anyway. | Sep 17 08:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] RT @fairvotewrc: !DemocracyWeek is an initative of @FairVoteCanada, not Elections Canada http://is.gd/n8BceO #FactFreeNews from @TorontoStar | Sep 17 08:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A call to civic action - thestar.com .::. Size~: 91.57 KB | Sep 17 08:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] shame you can't sue a company on the grounds of lying to the public, newscorp would be out of business in a week... | Sep 17 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @tekk @laurelrusswurm interestingly enough, comedy show(daily show) is better news than most news | Sep 17 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 no kidding man, i'm sure if @deejay1 wanted to do a good war, or a socratic one ? | Sep 17 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] my gosh, @x11r5, that was rather profound. | Sep 17 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk you *should* be able to. If they are selling us the news, and they give us lies instead, it is fraud. | Sep 17 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @johanv Software freedom day! http://labs.cre8tivetech.com/2011/07/celebrate-software-freedom-day-song/ | Sep 17 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk i know our government was looking at changing the law so facts are not required so FoxNews could open a branch here ;) | Sep 17 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @fairvotewrc @wlchronicle Another event: "Democracy In the New Millennium" film is part of !DemocracyWeek, Sat at 7:00pm First United ... | Sep 17 08:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Celebrate Software Freedom Day Song | It's a World Full of Sharing .::. Size~: 27.96 KB | Sep 17 08:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @pehjota Why do so many !fs authors add "All rights reserved" to their copyright notices, then disclaim those exclusive rights in a l ... | Sep 17 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk :) | Sep 17 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Notice needs only say "copyright" and you have the foundation. Saying "all Rights Reserved" conflicts w/ !CC type licensing #IANAL | Sep 17 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz that's it for me. See y'all Monday :) !tzaf !identiverse | Sep 17 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @milot R.I.P. Gary Birkett (@lcuk). We will never forget your contribs to !MeeGo 1.2 CE, liqbase and liqflow on !N900 /via @jukkaeklund | Sep 17 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Precious and fragile things... need special handling" #Precious - #DepecheMode | Sep 17 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Today is Software Freedom Day and also #OccupyWallStreet #Sep17 | Sep 17 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @glynmoody: Open Source Drug Discovery for Malaria - http://t.co/UipMiNiW don't miss the "6 laws" at the end (v @petersuber) | Sep 17 08:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 17 08:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @einfeldt: RT @lessig: Perry's Former Staffers Made Millions As Lobbyists http://t.co/apgS5PPY #rootstrikers | Sep 17 08:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 17 08:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rugged #Linux field computer acts as mission-critical video server http://is.gd/izu4fB "4GB of DDR3 RAM" | Sep 17 08:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rugged Linux field computer acts as mission-critical video server - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.02 KB | Sep 17 08:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Top 10 #GNOMEShell Themes http://is.gd/UTYQUh some really nice one in there. Apropos change: http://is.gd/aPz3WY #gnome #desktop #gnu #linux | Sep 17 08:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why #Ultrabooks Should Run #Ubuntu 11.10 http://is.gd/GzYy8m #gnu #linux | Sep 17 08:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Top 10 GNOME Shell Themes | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 55.99 KB | Sep 17 08:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Are Mobile-Style Interfaces Leaving Desktop Power Users Behind? | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 79.33 KB | Sep 17 08:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Ultrabooks Should Run Ubuntu 11.10 | TechSource .::. Size~: 93.42 KB | Sep 17 08:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ȘCOALA VIRTUALĂ despre Free #Software, #Linux și #Moodle, chiar acum, la http://edu.moodle.ro #romania | Sep 17 08:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: edu - Moodle Romania .::. Size~: 70.85 KB | Sep 17 08:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Testing #EXT4 & #Btrfs On A Serial ATA 3.0 SSD http://is.gd/T7Gx9x | Sep 17 08:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Happy !SoftwareFreedomDay everyone! !fsfe !fsf !gnu | Sep 17 08:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Testing EXT4 & Btrfs On A Serial ATA 3.0 SSD .::. Size~: 19.54 KB | Sep 17 08:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PinguyOS 11.04 Review http://is.gd/s1mIpW another one to watch out for | Sep 17 08:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PinguyOS 11.04 Review .::. Size~: 73.74 KB | Sep 17 08:51 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/b7YMl.png | Sep 17 08:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Sep 17 08:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] You're doing it wrong [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/WdULx.gif | Sep 17 08:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | Sep 17 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nerve.com/movies/five-ways-emstar-wars-em-hurt-science-fiction | Sep 17 08:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Five Ways Star Wars Hurt Science Fiction | Nerve.com .::. Size~: 60.64 KB | Sep 17 08:59 |
| schestowitz | meh | Sep 17 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, did you see omgubuntu give Windows 8 a glowing review? | Sep 17 09:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 17 09:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's the chance that #swpats proponents will start calling them "computer-implemented inventions" (CII) to dodge the bad connotation? | Sep 17 09:11 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/windows-8-interesting-competition/ | Sep 17 09:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows 8: Competition For Linux? | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 424.68 KB | Sep 17 09:11 |
| iophk | There are questions about actual ARM support. | Sep 17 09:13 |
| iophk | in Vista 8 | Sep 17 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/banshee-news/ | Sep 17 09:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Banshee News In Brief | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 102.94 KB | Sep 17 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | they want to make a GTK 3-Sharp | Sep 17 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | and a Gstreamer-Sharp | Sep 17 09:14 |
| iophk | "the news that Banshee’s lead developer Gabriel Burt has taken a job with the http://twitter.com/#%21/gabaug/status/80103372090388480." | Sep 17 09:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter .::. Size~: 43.15 KB | Sep 17 09:15 |
| iophk | Infiltrating the campaign :( | Sep 17 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | Rhythmbox isn't exactly getting a lot of love lately | Sep 17 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's only on life support because Fedora doesn't want to use Banshee | Sep 17 09:17 |
| schestowitz | iophk: taken a job with who? | Sep 17 09:23 |
| iophk | "I've joined the Obama campaign as a software engineer" says | Sep 17 09:23 |
| iophk | http://twitter.com/gabaug/statuses/80103372090388480?_escaped_fragment_=/gabaug/status/80103372090388480#!/gabaug/status/80103372090388480 | Sep 17 09:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @gabaug: I've joined the Obama campaign as a software engineer, and it is blowing my mind :) | Sep 17 09:23 |
| schestowitz | so maybe less time for banshee | Sep 17 09:24 |
| iophk | It's going to hurt Obama's chances. | Sep 17 09:24 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Sep 17 09:24 |
| schestowitz | should I worry? | Sep 17 09:24 |
| schestowitz | TBH, nothing other than the Business Parties can win the next election | Sep 17 09:24 |
| schestowitz | Obama is the lesser terrible | Sep 17 09:24 |
| iophk | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122843894 | Sep 17 09:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Campaign Finance Ruling: Hard To Reverse : NPR .::. Size~: 68.55 KB | Sep 17 09:25 |
| schestowitz | I have 3 posts coming and 5 cablegate ones | Sep 17 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Will get them out now, I'm meeting a friend whom I haven't seen in years larer... | Sep 17 09:25 |
| schestowitz | brb | Sep 17 09:25 |
| iophk | Remember to highlight the appropriate text in the cables, they are long to wade through otherwise | Sep 17 09:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @rsd: it is September 17th in my time zone. Happy Software Freedom Day to all of you. !softwarelivre !fsfla !gnull | Sep 17 09:26 | |
| iophk | and if there are multiple cables in one post, then searching forward for strings can be problematic | Sep 17 09:26 |
| iophk | in that method it is not clear whether the text is in the same cable or you have jumped forward to another. | Sep 17 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora still has an active Mono SIG | Sep 17 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME is recommending Banshee | Sep 17 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Sep 17 09:27 |
| iophk | I gave up on Gnome years ago | Sep 17 09:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Payola Works Today... Or Why You Only Hear Major Label Songs On The Radio - http://bit.ly/rtSqMu another reason they hate the Net | Sep 17 09:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 3 Million Texts for Free - http://bit.ly/nSmbxq "bringing over 1,000 new books online every day." totally fab #ebooks | Sep 17 09:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Payola Works Today... Or Why You Only Hear Major Label Songs On The Radio | Techdirt .::. Size~: 53.79 KB | Sep 17 09:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 3 Million Texts for Free | Internet Archive Blogs .::. Size~: 24.74 KB | Sep 17 09:29 |
| iophk | http://edition.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/14/dixie.chicks.reut/ | Sep 17 09:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CNN.com - Dixie Chicks pulled from air after bashing Bush - Mar. 14, 2003 .::. Size~: 31.03 KB | Sep 17 09:31 |
| iophk | http://www.tmz.com/2006/09/12/dixie-chicks-to-bush-youre-a-dumb-f-k/ | Sep 17 09:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dixie Chicks To Bush: "You're a Dumb F**k" | TMZ.com .::. Size~: 107.81 KB | Sep 17 09:32 |
| iophk | IIRC the same company owned most of the stations | Sep 17 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dixie_Chicks#2003.E2.80.9305:_Political_controversy | Sep 17 09:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Sep 17 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | censor yourself or we'll do it for you | Sep 17 09:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Breakfast at Arduino - http://bit.ly/qSwyep four major announcements, making #arduino even more wonderful #openhardware | Sep 17 09:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Arduino Blog » Blog Archive » Breakfast at Arduino .::. Size~: 25.97 KB | Sep 17 09:34 |
| schestowitz | musicians expressing political opinion? | Sep 17 09:35 |
| iophk | Yes and they were shut down for it. | Sep 17 09:36 |
| schestowitz | That's like a nab menstruating | Sep 17 09:36 |
| schestowitz | I know | Sep 17 09:36 |
| schestowitz | I was being cynical | Sep 17 09:36 |
| schestowitz | It became a famous case | Sep 17 09:36 |
| schestowitz | Where texas would boycott their stuff | Sep 17 09:36 |
| schestowitz | for saying the truth | Sep 17 09:36 |
| schestowitz | singers are not allowed to talk around certain areas | Sep 17 09:36 |
| schestowitz | The labels would see them as bad apples | Sep 17 09:37 |
| schestowitz | !google justin briber healthcare | Sep 17 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Justin Bieber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Bieber | Sep 17 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Justin Bieber Says US Health System Is 'Evil' ("You guys are evil.") | http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/2674728/posts | Sep 17 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Justin Bieber's 'Never Say Never' movie - for more than just fans ... | http://www.examiner.com/teen-idol-in-dayton/justin-bieber-s-never-say-never-movie-for-more-than-just-fans | Sep 17 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Britney Spears, Justin Bieber and Ellen Degeneres join Twitter ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019872/Britney-Spears-Justin-Bieber-Ellen-Degeneres-join-Twitter-campaign-Berry-children.html | Sep 17 09:37 |
| schestowitz | bieber | Sep 17 09:37 |
| schestowitz | How dare they express an opinion? | Sep 17 09:37 |
| schestowitz | Or write a song? | Sep 17 09:37 |
| schestowitz | They are just tasked with the idea of moving their mouths for lyrics and music written by other people. That's their "Contract" :-) | Sep 17 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's OK if you're not expressing opinions that anyone disagrees with | Sep 17 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 17 09:38 |
| schestowitz | God Bless America | Sep 17 09:38 |
| schestowitz | Because the Taliban was never the target market for CDs anyway | Sep 17 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | maybe a DVD HowTo for female genital mutilation | Sep 17 09:41 |
| iophk | http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/sep/14/here-comes-trouble-michael-moore-review | Sep 17 09:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Here Comes Trouble by Michael Moore - review | Books | The Guardian .::. Size~: 138.1 KB | Sep 17 09:42 |
| iophk | http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/michaelmooreoscaracceptance.htm | Sep 17 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Michael Moore - 2003 Oscar Award Acceptance Address for Best Documentary .::. Size~: 7.03 KB | Sep 17 09:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Rep: #Copyright has actually been an "impediment" to rightsholders - http://bit.ly/pSuDb4 a glimmer of hope, here? | Sep 17 09:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: CERGE-EI “American-style” Education With UNIX Labs http://is.gd/DIFqT9 #wlfind #unix #cz | Sep 17 09:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: CERGE-EI “American-style” Education With UNIX Labs http://is.gd/DIFqT9 #europe #eu #library #education | Sep 17 09:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Huge Oil Palm Plantation Puts African Rainforest at Risk - http://bit.ly/oaCPj3 #palmoil's blight spreads further | Sep 17 09:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US Rep: Copyright has actually been an "impediment" to rightsholders .::. Size~: 33.99 KB | Sep 17 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: CERGE-EI “American-style” Education With UNIX Labs | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.53 KB | Sep 17 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: CERGE-EI “American-style” Education With UNIX Labs | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.53 KB | Sep 17 09:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Huge Oil Palm Plantation Puts African Rainforest at Risk by Rhett Butler and Jeremy Hance: Yale Environment 360 .::. Size~: 55.2 KB | Sep 17 09:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Why Public and Private Records Keeping Systems Should Use Free Software. http://is.gd/jBOo2X | Sep 17 09:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Public and Private Records Keeping Systems Should Use Free Software. http://is.gd/jBOo2X | Sep 17 09:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: Italy’s Decade of Antagonising Patent Colonialism http://is.gd/V15qln #swpats #eurpe #italy | Sep 17 09:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: Italy’s Decade of Antagonising Patent Colonialism http://is.gd/V15qln #epo uspto #harmonization #colonialism #imperialism | Sep 17 09:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Public and Private Records Keeping Systems Should Use Free Software. | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.28 KB | Sep 17 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Public and Private Records Keeping Systems Should Use Free Software. | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.28 KB | Sep 17 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: Italy’s Decade of Antagonising Patent Colonialism | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.16 KB | Sep 17 09:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: Italy’s Decade of Antagonising Patent Colonialism | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.16 KB | Sep 17 09:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An open letter to J.R. Salamanca - http://bit.ly/oNIYAy addressing an orphan work's author... | Sep 17 10:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: An open letter to J.R. Salamanca .::. Size~: 58.34 KB | Sep 17 10:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: USPTO, JPO, and EPO Prepare a Global Patent System http://is.gd/7KGx24 #USPTO #JPO #EPO #swpats #globalization #imperialism | Sep 17 10:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Digital Scholar: How Technology Is Transforming Scholarly Practice - http://bit.ly/rkiPfp cc-by-nc; can be read online | Sep 17 10:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: USPTO, JPO, and EPO Prepare a Global Patent System http://is.gd/7KGx24 #monopoly #eupatent #law | Sep 17 10:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | Sep 17 10:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Digital Scholar: How Technology Is Transforming Scholarly Practice : Bloomsbury Academic .::. Size~: 64.49 KB | Sep 17 10:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: USPTO, JPO, and EPO Prepare a Global Patent System | Techrights .::. Size~: 113.26 KB | Sep 17 10:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Saturn: New photos from Cassini’s recent Enceladus flyby - http://bit.ly/mOJgly wow #space | Sep 17 10:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Saturn: New photos from Cassini’s recent Enceladus flyby – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 20.54 KB | Sep 17 10:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Defra Approval of UK #GM Wheat Trial a Mistake - http://bit.ly/qLGW2w this seems a very odd move | Sep 17 10:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GM Freeze | News releases .::. Size~: 15.55 KB | Sep 17 10:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: In 2010, Patent Harmonisation “Not Welcomed by Developing Countries” http://is.gd/nbdTsa #patent #monopoly #asia #africa #wlfind | Sep 17 10:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: In 2010, Patent Harmonisation “Not Welcomed by Developing Countries” http://is.gd/nbdTsa #law #cablegate #eu #wipo #wto | Sep 17 10:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: In 2010, Patent Harmonisation “Not Welcomed by Developing Countries” | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.98 KB | Sep 17 10:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: In 2010, Patent Harmonisation “Not Welcomed by Developing Countries” | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.98 KB | Sep 17 10:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What the 2001 #Doha Declaration Changed - http://bit.ly/r3vm1c & how the West is trying to undermine affordable medicines for the poor | Sep 17 10:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Be Careful when Speaking to Federal Agents - 18 U.S.C. Section 1001 http://library.findlaw.com/2004/May/11/147945.html | Sep 17 10:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What the 2001 Doha Declaration Changed | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 30.88 KB | Sep 17 10:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to Avoid Going to Jail under 18 U.S.C. Section 1001 for Lying to Governme... .::. Size~: 30.77 KB | Sep 17 10:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Now it's illegal to write down prices in Tesco supermarket - http://bit.ly/qbc7Ux so crowdsource remembered prices online (v @rlancefield) | Sep 17 10:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Now it's illegal to write down prices in a Tesco supermarket | Money | The Guardian .::. Size~: 193.94 KB | Sep 17 10:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sarkozy Promotes Monopolies in China, French Government Backs ‘Community Patent’ (aka EU Patent, Harmonisation) http://is.gd/Ta6wwU #wlfind | Sep 17 10:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: Sarkozy Promotes Monopolies in China, French Government Backs ‘Community Patent’ (aka EU Patent, Harmonisation) | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.34 KB | Sep 17 10:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Sarkozy Promotes Monopolies in China, French Government Backs #CommunityPatent (aka EU Patent, Harmonisation) http://is.gd/Ta6wwU #swpats | Sep 17 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Tzag identizens. What a great close came between Ireland & Australia. Rugby world cup. | Sep 17 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ireland pull further ahead 12-6 :-) | Sep 17 10:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: Sarkozy Promotes Monopolies in China, French Government Backs ‘Community Patent’ (aka EU Patent, Harmonisation) | Techrights .::. Size~: 104.34 KB | Sep 17 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: EU Negotiations About EU Patent/Community Patent http://is.gd/AZeoOq #swpats #eu #europe | Sep 17 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Cablegate: EU Negotiations About EU Patent/Community Patent http://is.gd/AZeoOq #epo #uspto #geneva #belgium | Sep 17 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] More Irish pressure results in yet another penalty conceded by Australia. #Rugbyworldcup | Sep 17 11:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: EU Negotiations About EU Patent/Community Patent | Techrights .::. Size~: 174.09 KB | Sep 17 11:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: EU Negotiations About EU Patent/Community Patent | Techrights .::. Size~: 174.09 KB | Sep 17 11:04 |
| iophk | How do the Cablegate cables fit strategically into Techrights? | Sep 17 11:05 |
| iophk | They are very high volume. | Sep 17 11:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @randomcolour: black | Sep 17 11:07 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Sep 17 11:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Exciting last 4 minutes Ireland/Australia #Rugbyworldcup | Sep 17 11:11 | |
| schestowitz | patent policy | Sep 17 11:12 |
| schestowitz | culprits | Sep 17 11:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] that was close | Sep 17 11:13 | |
| iophk | culprits for sure | Sep 17 11:13 |
| schestowitz | How else? | Sep 17 11:13 |
| schestowitz | Some people think violent acts and protests would do | Sep 17 11:13 |
| schestowitz | I think it's better to incentivise political to not be arseholes -- transparency can lead to it | Sep 17 11:13 |
| schestowitz | *politicians | Sep 17 11:14 |
| iophk | transparency is better, but there is very little of it | Sep 17 11:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Good Irish victory over a good Australian team. #rugbyworldcup | Sep 17 11:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Tzaf Identizens | Sep 17 11:18 | |
| iophk | The 14000 − 15000 posts need a better tagging system than they currently have. | Sep 17 11:18 |
| iophk | Right now there's just full-text searching to go through old posts. | Sep 17 11:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Impact of America Invents Act on Patent Trolls http://is.gd/vgZ8ql patent policy is still broken. #swpats #us #redhat #mosaid #acacia | Sep 17 11:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] Impact of America Invents Act on Patent Trolls http://is.gd/vgZ8ql #patentpolicy #uspto #monopoly #government #protectionism | Sep 17 11:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The special trick that helps identify dodgy #stats - http://bit.ly/ruYZq6 I've always found Benford's Law rather wonderful #numbers | Sep 17 11:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Impact of America Invents Act on Patent Trolls | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.21 KB | Sep 17 11:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Impact of America Invents Act on Patent Trolls | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.21 KB | Sep 17 11:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The special trick that helps identify dodgy stats | Ben Goldacre | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 188.65 KB | Sep 17 11:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The #SoftwareFreedomDay event, organised by #Moodle Romania in a few high schools in #Arad and Baia Mare, #Romania, was a total success #sfd | Sep 17 11:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] rano Spotkanie Śniadaniowe na VI OFIP (www.ofip.org.pl); teraz znów na #CCSummit2011, streamujemy dzielnie, @piorekf przepycha pakiety ;) | Sep 17 11:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Pupils participated to GNU/Linux labs, received CDs with distros and OpenDisc, [...] | Sep 17 11:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] [...] listened to online presentations (via Moodle platform, virtual class) and, of course, had fun. [...] | Sep 17 11:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] More details to follow http://edu.moodle.ro/course/view.php?id=256 | Sep 17 11:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @bramalab: Lawrence @Lessig will be speaking today at 5PM CEST (in ~4.5h) at #CCSummit2011, join us live: ur1.ca/53dzg #cc | Sep 17 11:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GTK 3-Sharp and Gstreamer-Sharp http://is.gd/obAEnO #swpats #mono #banshee #fedora #ubuntu #gnu #linux #vista8 | Sep 17 11:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] GTK 3-Sharp and Gstreamer-Sharp http://is.gd/obAEnO #novell #lockin #dotnet #infiltration #gtk #gnome | Sep 17 11:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Keep reloading http://identi.ca hoping that the #Statusnet 1.0 upgrade has kicked in! so far, not | Sep 17 11:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Public timeline - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 46.9 KB | Sep 17 11:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have not seen BPC's Click for weeks. This week it is sponsored by Fraunhofer-Gesellshaft. | Sep 17 11:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear @diaspora, why u no have API? /srsly guys, we need the API. any news on that? #Diaspora | Sep 17 11:44 | |
| *DaemonFC (~ryan@99.181.227.206) has joined #techrights | Sep 17 11:45 | |
| DaemonFC | this time my GNOME 3 / Fedora 16 experience was great for about 2 minutes | Sep 17 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | then it popped up some sad computer icon and said "Uh oh, something went wrong" | Sep 17 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | and so I logged back in and got the same thing | Sep 17 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 17 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | I think Fedora compiles everything with --enable-really-broken | Sep 17 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 17 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | it took over a week for them to admit that the reason nobody could use their kernel was because they had all the debug stuff enabled so that if someone managed to use the kernel it would give them a lot of really nice crash data | Sep 17 11:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Some bint on Click thinks that the style of sunglasses is now as important as function. Really? | Sep 17 11:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Which is just as well when you consider how little content there is for the windows phone." | Sep 17 11:54 | |
| DaemonFC | there's plenty of content for windows phone | Sep 17 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft pays by the app, so it stands to reason it is or will be a content mill | Sep 17 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 17 11:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Sick to death of "accessible business programmes" Like the BPC's bottom line with Evan Davies. | Sep 17 12:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bloody hell! Looking at the pictures of the mine where the Welsh miners died. It looks like something from the 19th century. | Sep 17 12:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] On the Web, Microsoft is Dying, GNU/Linux and FOSS Are Winning http://is.gd/9nMng1 #server #gnu #linux #microsoft #iis | Sep 17 12:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: On the Web, Microsoft is Dying, GNU/Linux and FOSS Are Winning | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.83 KB | Sep 17 12:09 |
| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz | Sep 17 12:13 | |
| *DaemonFC gives schestowitz a copy of Ubuntu, or maybe it's Windows Vista | Sep 17 12:14 | |
| DaemonFC | still can't tell them apart | Sep 17 12:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] On the Web, Microsoft is Dying, GNU/Linux and FOSS Are Winning http://is.gd/9nMng1 #apache #foss #www #suse #yahoo #bartz #search | Sep 17 12:14 | |
| DaemonFC | twins separated at birth | Sep 17 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: On the Web, Microsoft is Dying, GNU/Linux and FOSS Are Winning | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.83 KB | Sep 17 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to get a new daily CD with the new version of Unity on it to review so maybe it'll crash less | Sep 17 12:16 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84163522 | Sep 17 12:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 17-Sep-11 11:13:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Prospering rather than winning/ | Sep 17 12:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Good interview with alleged Swiss-bank WikiLeaks whistleblower Rudolf Elmer | Liberte http://t.co/9OQwPWPc | Sep 17 12:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody: 3 Million Texts for Free - http://t.co/d2ZsZC4V "bringing over 1,000 new books online every day." totally fab #ebooks | Sep 17 12:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RudolfElmer – the man who exposed the dark side of global finance http://is.gd/b996lZ | Sep 17 12:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84163536 | Sep 17 12:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 17 12:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 17 12:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Liberté info - Publications .::. Size~: 25.24 KB | Sep 17 12:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 17-Sep-11 11:14:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Substitute ? for / | Sep 17 12:18 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/06/linus_torvalds_dumps_kernel_for_github/ | Sep 17 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Torvalds dumps Kernel.org for Github after breach • The Register .::. Size~: 25.74 KB | Sep 17 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | another changed headline? | Sep 17 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/16/windows_8_bsod/ | Sep 17 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Blue Screen of Death gets makeover for Windows 8 • The Register .::. Size~: 29.47 KB | Sep 17 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | ""Your PC ran into a problem that it couldn't handle, and now it needs to restart." | Sep 17 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | your PC, not Windows | Sep 17 12:24 |
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| DaemonFC | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/303498_271674969519070_184357191584182_1053845_281074497_n.jpg | Sep 17 12:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My Samsung DVD player/recorder can copy recorded programmes from the HDD to optical disc but not to SD card, yet another way it is a lemon. | Sep 17 12:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Do you remember when you were young and used to root for the British when watching "Zulu", me too. | Sep 17 12:36 | |
| *DaemonFC (~ryan@adsl-99-181-227-206.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights | Sep 17 12:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Jellybean to Follow Ice Cream Sandwich http://is.gd/i6cmcD #android #linux | Sep 17 12:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jellybean to Follow Ice Cream Sandwich | GooGeZ .::. Size~: 80.79 KB | Sep 17 12:44 |
| schestowitz | DrPizza: gavin pushed the vapurware into hedliens | Sep 17 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Let's just ignore this hypefest | Sep 17 12:45 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC I meant | Sep 17 12:45 |
| schestowitz | *headlines | Sep 17 12:46 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they blame the hardware | Sep 17 12:46 |
| schestowitz | "must be a driver" | Sep 17 12:46 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Sep 17 12:46 |
| schestowitz | PC | Sep 17 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | you mean like the drivers Microsoft ships with Windows now? :) | Sep 17 12:47 |
| schestowitz | :) | Sep 17 12:48 |
| schestowitz | THe unready ones | Sep 17 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Like in Vista | Sep 17 12:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In future versions of Windows the hardware will be blamed for faults. "Your PC", not "Windows". http://is.gd/vCL51I | Sep 17 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Affordable Duke of Holland Honeycomb Tablets http://is.gd/8TKi80 "adds several features the iPad doesn't have." #linux | Sep 17 12:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @trashheap What's !Gnome 's long term plan for desktops with no hardware acceleration ? Is there one ? | Sep 17 12:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google Releases #Chrome 14 Stable for Linux http://is.gd/d64FYJ | Sep 17 12:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Releases Chrome 14 Stable for Linux - Softpedia .::. Size~: 50.26 KB | Sep 17 12:54 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84163966 | Sep 17 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 17-Sep-11 11:45:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Us desire owners did not even get as far as gingerbread. | Sep 17 12:58 |
| schestowitz | I doubt I'll own an Android, ever. | Sep 17 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | they picture it in Unity | Sep 17 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | typical | Sep 17 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | Linux Mint KDE has gone silent | Sep 17 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | I just realized they said they'd be moving to Debian because of problems basing on Kubuntu | Sep 17 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | and then nothing ever materialized | Sep 17 12:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Under management of former Microsoft employees/execs, Spring now betrays the GPL. How predictable. | Sep 17 12:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Just recieved feedback from #kde bugs.kde.org, bugreport on #Choqok #kubuntu needs to upgrade to Choqok 1.1 reported bug solved in 1.1 | Sep 17 12:59 | |
| schestowitz | Has it eally gone silent? | Sep 17 13:00 |
| schestowitz | I last saw it mentioned a few months abck | Sep 17 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | Mint KDE 10 is still up | Sep 17 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | but that was the last release | Sep 17 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | I never really got the point of basing on Ubuntu | Sep 17 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is meant as a finished product not to be useful to use as a base for others | Sep 17 13:01 |
| schestowitz | [12:59] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [ml2mst/@ml2mst] Just recieved feedback from #kde bugs.kde.org, bugreport on #Choqok #kubuntu needs to upgrade to Choqok 1.1 reported bug solved in 1.1 | Sep 17 13:01 |
| schestowitz | yes, chokoq is more polished in 1.1 | Sep 17 13:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: debian hasn;'t the same installer and firmware | Sep 17 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | there's a few things that bothered me about the Unity GUI, it's not just the fact that the thing crashes a lot | Sep 17 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | applications available for install should not clutter the list of installed applications | Sep 17 13:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @doctorow: Tesco threatens journalist with arrest for writing down prices http://t.co/oFW2cWe3 < one other reason I won't shop in #tesco | Sep 17 13:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 17 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | especially not the random crap it brings up | Sep 17 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | it makes the menu much less useful when it devotes half of it to installed software and half to things you don't want to install | Sep 17 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | "openSUSE also announced that it will include OpenJDK from now on, rather than the binary Java JDK coming from Oracle." | Sep 17 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | there's a plus | Sep 17 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | though Oracle took away the right to redistribute theirs | Sep 17 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | good riddance either way | Sep 17 13:06 |
| schestowitz | "schestowitz : Under management of former Microsoft employees/execs, Spring now betrays the GPL. How predictable." | Sep 17 13:07 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84164235 | Sep 17 13:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Saturday, 17-Sep-11 12:01:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz well duh ;-p | Sep 17 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's under a free license still | Sep 17 13:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Identi.ca (y otros sitios StatusNet) preparan mantenimiento: http://ur1.ca/53d0o !eol | Sep 17 13:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Tails Project's The Amnesic Incognito Live System (Tails) http://is.gd/k17gFd "based on Debian Live and runs directly from CD.." | Sep 17 13:08 | |
| MinceR | 133958 < DaemonFC> ""Your PC ran into a problem that it couldn't handle, and now it needs to restart." | Sep 17 13:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Upgrading Identi.ca and other StatusNet cloud sites to 1.0.0rc1 | StatusNet .::. Size~: 18.87 KB | Sep 17 13:08 |
| MinceR | 134002 < DaemonFC> your PC, not Windows | Sep 17 13:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Tails Project's The Amnesic Incognito Live System (Tails) | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 50.75 KB | Sep 17 13:08 |
| MinceR | yes, and the problem is called "windows" | Sep 17 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | openSUSE KDE has a nice change in 12.1 | Sep 17 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | they stopped managing the network with Yast and let network manager do it instead | Sep 17 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | Yast is a pain in the ass to manage software from | Sep 17 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | it would be nice if they split that off and just gave it to kpackagekit | Sep 17 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | the rest of it is a nice system management tool though | Sep 17 13:10 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: so is dawn | Sep 17 13:11 |
| schestowitz | you are encouraged to share with your neighbour | Sep 17 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | Dawn is licensed under the MIT X11 license | Sep 17 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | every's had a chance to "manage" her | Sep 17 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | and all that's left is a total mess | Sep 17 13:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The state of #Gentoo http://is.gd/CXK9az still popular | Sep 17 13:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Aid from the Magic Kingdom - http://bit.ly/pketD2 send in the dwarfs/dwarves... | Sep 17 13:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Raghuvansh Prasad Singh: BRAI Bill - Bulldozing public opinion - http://bit.ly/pl3XTw bullying, more like... #india #monsanto | Sep 17 13:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it seems putting unapproved comments on the toolbar of #Drupal7 doesn't have any benefits, it doesn't update the number to match the queue | Sep 17 13:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Raghuvansh Prasad Singh: BRAI Bill - Bulldozing public opinion .::. Size~: 134.2 KB | Sep 17 13:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Appeals Court Reinstates $675,000 File-Sharing Decision Against Joel Tenenbaum - http://bit.ly/r03FUb "case grinds on" | Sep 17 13:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Appeals Court Reinstates $675,000 File-Sharing Decision Against Joel Tenenbaum | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 27.55 KB | Sep 17 13:26 |
| MinceR | geekings | Sep 17 13:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @trisquel: Celebrate #SFD with the new #Trisquel GNU/Linux 5.0: http://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-50-release-announcement #gnu #linux #fsf | Sep 17 13:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Trisquel 5.0 Release announcement | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free! .::. Size~: 15.35 KB | Sep 17 13:29 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/XRsUP.png | Sep 17 13:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/rhMa9.jpg | Sep 17 13:32 |
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| MinceR | :) | Sep 17 13:32 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ml2mst/status/115036456237547520 | Sep 17 13:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ml2mst: @schestowitz Thanks Roy, I'm still using the stock Kubuntu version, which does nothing but crash, time and again. Using Qwit now :-( | Sep 17 13:34 |
| schestowitz | choqok | Sep 17 13:34 |
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| *schestowitz off to town | Sep 17 13:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Troll comment [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/9BJpn.png | Sep 17 13:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cablegate: #EU-#US Negotiations on trade, health etc - http://bit.ly/n2FPmW nausea-inducing chumminess as they stitch us up | Sep 17 13:43 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: EU Negotiations About EU Patent/Community Patent | Techrights .::. Size~: 174.01 KB | Sep 17 13:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "would create the impression of a deal being struck behind closed doors": Italian WIPO rep of EU patent harmonisation - http://bit.ly/olsbV5 | Sep 17 13:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cablegate: Italy’s Decade of Antagonising Patent Colonialism | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.77 KB | Sep 17 13:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WTO Rules Against Dolphin-Safe Tuna Labels - http://bit.ly/qNvLb7 US consumers want it, dolphins want it...but WTO says no: time to go, #WTO | Sep 17 13:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WTO Rules Against Dolphin-Safe Tuna Labels | Common Dreams .::. Size~: 29.91 KB | Sep 17 13:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NYTimes.com Strikes False Balance On Climate Change - http://bit.ly/nFzNU2 "climate-realist perspective": lipstick on the denialist pig | Sep 17 13:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NYTimes.com Strikes False Balance On Climate Change | ThinkProgress .::. Size~: 37.56 KB | Sep 17 13:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #FSF speaks against patent and DRM provisions at Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiators' meeting - http://bit.ly/qfwXva good to see #tpp | Sep 17 14:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FSF speaks against patent and DRM provisions at Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiators' meeting — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 28.85 KB | Sep 17 14:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Companies ejected from London arms fair for 'promoting cluster bombs' http://gu.com/p/32x7j - #ScoobyDoo "I would have gotten away with it" | Sep 17 14:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Companies ejected from London arms fair for 'promoting cluster bombs' | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 88.5 KB | Sep 17 14:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Martin McGuinness willing to meet the Queen if elected Irish president - http://bit.ly/pg4x6b my, how things change #ireland #ira | Sep 17 14:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Martin McGuinness willing to meet the Queen if elected Irish president | Politics | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 133.04 KB | Sep 17 14:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why the #Pope must face justice at The #Hague http://gu.com/p/32xc4 | Sep 17 14:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Outsourcing porn http://gu.com/p/32v5q #interesting | Sep 17 14:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why the Pope must face justice at The Hague | Barbara Blaine | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 120.94 KB | Sep 17 14:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Outsourcing porn | Jill Filipovic | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 239.72 KB | Sep 17 14:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] Are Mobile-Style Interfaces Leaving Desktop Power Users Behind? http://tinyurl.com/4xme5ug #windows8 #linux | Sep 17 15:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Are Mobile-Style Interfaces Leaving Desktop Power Users Behind? | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 78.85 KB | Sep 17 15:11 |
| abushcrafter | GNU is a system and a project. Ignore the credit reason. now look again at the articles on the GNU website and maybe FSF? | Sep 17 15:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Went to SFD celebrations at MIT,chennai. Nice to see lot of students explaining free software! | Sep 17 15:38 | |
| abushcrafter | Android is NOT GNU/Linux it is VERY different! http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#linuxsyswithoutgnu | Sep 17 15:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GNU/Linux FAQ - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 74.58 KB | Sep 17 15:41 |
| abushcrafter | http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html | Sep 17 15:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Words to Avoid (or Use with Care) Because They Are Loaded or Confusing - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 40.98 KB | Sep 17 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @wayneborean: indeed | Sep 17 15:41 | |
| abushcrafter | Good read: http://www.nuxified.org/article/linux_not_os | Sep 17 15:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux is not an OS | Nuxified.org .::. Size~: 61.6 KB | Sep 17 15:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] To set up our connection at work yesterday, the ISP wanted us to install ActiveX control (blocked). #Stupid #Bozos | Sep 17 15:43 | |
| abushcrafter | ender_2600: "The FSF should make its own distro" It already has! Do some research! You fool! | Sep 17 15:43 |
| iophk | http://www.gnewsense.org/ | Sep 17 15:45 |
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| iophk | metad is the latest version | Sep 17 15:45 |
| iophk | There are even MIPS-based netbooks that have Free BIOS, too | Sep 17 15:46 |
| iophk | http://lemote.kd85.com/ (Warning for heavy images at that site) | Sep 17 15:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Vasile Lupu, noul preşedinte al PNŢCD, propune revenirea la monarhia constituţională http://tinyurl.com/5vwa67x #romania #monarchy #politics | Sep 17 15:48 | |
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| iophk | The only flaw with the Yeeloong is that the ctrl and fn keys are swapped on the keyboard, at least as far as what I'm used to. | Sep 17 15:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @iurie A fost lansat #Trisquel 5.0 - http://is.gd/o1W6YK !ceata !cmep | Sep 17 15:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Trisquel 5.0 Release announcement | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free! .::. Size~: 15.58 KB | Sep 17 15:49 |
| MinceR | doesn't the BIOS let you swap them? | Sep 17 15:50 |
| iophk | I haven't explored that much of the BIOS | Sep 17 15:50 |
| iophk | How would they be swapped there? | Sep 17 15:50 |
| MinceR | then again, at least you won't have to reach so far for the Ctrl key :> | Sep 17 15:51 |
| MinceR | well, ThinkPad BIOSes have a setup option to swap Fn with Ctrl | Sep 17 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Uh oh, something went wrong. [Log Out] | Sep 17 15:51 |
| MinceR | i chose to just get used to Ctrl not being the left bottom key, though | Sep 17 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 3 error screen | Sep 17 15:51 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 17 15:51 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: still better than PalmOS 5's "Out of memory. [ Reset ]" where that reset button may or may not work | Sep 17 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | we won't tell you what went wrong or possible fixes, we'll just keep displaying these every time the shell crashes | Sep 17 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | what's that? it crashes after you log in? | Sep 17 15:52 |
| MinceR | nope | Sep 17 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | damn dude, uh, that like, sucks | Sep 17 15:52 |
| MinceR | it crashes when an app asks for too much memory :> | Sep 17 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | that's elegant | Sep 17 15:53 |
| abeNd-org | i used to use the heck out of palmos stuff, what apps were you using that did that? | Sep 17 15:55 |
| MinceR | can't remember anymore | Sep 17 15:55 |
| abeNd-org | hopefully someone picks up webos, seems like a nice lawsuit free (so far) alternative to android/iOS/mango (blackberry is dead) | Sep 17 15:57 |
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| MinceR | hopefully someone picks up MeeGo | Sep 17 15:59 |
| abeNd-org | never touched it | Sep 17 15:59 |
| abeNd-org | i think i d/l it once, forgot about it | Sep 17 15:59 |
| abushcrafter | What Microsoft's hardware limitations for gnu/linux? | Sep 17 16:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @ark74 If you celebrate the #SFD by supporting !hnode, please let us know, we would like to hear it out loud \o/!! !gnu !fsf !lp !tri ... | Sep 17 16:16 | |
| abushcrafter | schestowitz: On banning smoking. What about my freedom to not breath that rubbish in. | Sep 17 16:17 |
| MinceR | that's an issue with smoking in public places, not with smoking in general | Sep 17 16:18 |
| MinceR | but it is indeed an issue | Sep 17 16:18 |
| MinceR | as for m$'s hardware limitations, i think he meant stuff like being limited to 1GB of RAM due to m$ licensing requirements. | Sep 17 16:19 |
| abeNd-org | they are banning smoking around the restaurants here | Sep 17 16:20 |
| abeNd-org | i am all for it, smokers have no respect for others | Sep 17 16:21 |
| abeNd-org | yes, ms products like the basic free sql express server do have artificially imposed memory limits | Sep 17 16:22 |
| abushcrafter | I am interested in meego too. | Sep 17 16:26 |
| abushcrafter | 1gb of ram is ok for me | Sep 17 16:26 |
| iophk | abeNd-org: can the same strategy the eliminated smoking be used to eliminate M$ and similar pollutants of the IT ecosystem? | Sep 17 16:26 |
| abushcrafter | lol :01:21:15 - schestowitz: They were too open | Sep 17 16:28 |
| abushcrafter | 01:21:15 - schestowitz: Open to Apple | Sep 17 16:28 |
| abushcrafter | 01:21:15 - schestowitz: Open to Microsoft | Sep 17 16:28 |
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| abushcrafter | schestowitz: "01:31:20 - schestowitz: he also created a site dedicated to attacking me." Where is it I want to see. | Sep 17 16:31 |
| iophk | A few decades ago, smoking was ubiquitous. It was on airplanes (couldn't see the ceiling) and even in hospitals and elevators. | Sep 17 16:32 |
| abushcrafter | Glad I didn't live then. | Sep 17 16:54 |
| iophk | Sometimes doctors would smoke while with patients. It was bizarre. | Sep 17 16:58 |
| iophk | Ash trays every where. | Sep 17 17:01 |
| iophk | Anyway, smoking is like M$: a hazard to ones self and a hazard and nuisance to everyone else. | Sep 17 17:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Marcos Marado opening #sfd2011 in Lisboa, Portugal http://ur1.ca/541gk | Sep 17 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] #sfd2011 Gustavo Homem, from ESOP and Angulo Solido, talking about system administration with GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/541h9 | Sep 17 17:11 | |
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| iophk | Cars used to have ashtrays in each armrest in the doors. | Sep 17 17:15 |
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| iophk | I think people will look at PCs about the same way and look back on the mess of having Windows on so many desktop PCs. | Sep 17 17:22 |
| iophk | Just like smoking used to be ubiquitous. | Sep 17 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to coerce GNOME 3.2 into starting | Sep 17 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | not bad, but Fedora 16 is still way too buggy to consider installing | Sep 17 17:23 |
| MinceR | http://www.dilbert.com/2011-06-30 | Sep 17 17:40 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.ascendos.org/about.html | Sep 17 17:41 |
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| DaemonFC | another rhel clone | Sep 17 17:42 |
| MinceR | with a shouty website :> | Sep 17 17:44 |
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| iophk | Jono's away at his b-day? | Sep 17 18:25 |
| iophk | Or celebrating Software Freedom Day? | Sep 17 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | Someone should send him a Unity cake | Sep 17 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | it looks delicious then it's full of dead fish | Sep 17 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 17 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | a screenshot tour of something can be very (deliberately) misleading | Sep 17 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Hello friends | Sep 17 18:50 |
| schestowitz | iophk: it's both | Sep 17 18:50 |
| schestowitz | I told him happy birthday yesterday IIRC | Sep 17 18:50 |
| iophk | He was on briefly today | Sep 17 18:51 |
| schestowitz | abushcrafter: hi there | Sep 17 18:51 |
| schestowitz | good to see you back | Sep 17 18:51 |
| schestowitz | iophk: we need to befriend ubuntu people | Sep 17 18:51 |
| schestowitz | ubuntu is not an enemy as some people try to paint ir | Sep 17 18:51 |
| schestowitz | *it | Sep 17 18:51 |
| schestowitz | And I worry that Canonical is getting weak | Sep 17 18:51 |
| iophk | I like and use Ubuntu | Sep 17 18:51 |
| schestowitz | They have a little exodus going | Sep 17 18:51 |
| iophk | Yes, I share that worry a little. | Sep 17 18:51 |
| schestowitz | I use kubuntu right now | Sep 17 18:52 |
| iophk | Is it mostly Google that is poaching? | Sep 17 18:52 |
| schestowitz | I told my friend today to install ubuntu | Sep 17 18:52 |
| schestowitz | he uses vista | Sep 17 18:52 |
| schestowitz | And he asked me about a BSoD | Sep 17 18:52 |
| schestowitz | He thougyht it was a computer problem | Sep 17 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Someone told him | Sep 17 18:52 |
| iophk | I have no pity for Windows users | Sep 17 18:52 |
| iophk | I ran into someone asking for help with a (then) new laptop | Sep 17 18:52 |
| schestowitz | So I told him it's a Windows problem, just hours after I had dented something about Microsoft changing BSoD to blame the "PC" | Sep 17 18:52 |
| iophk | Vista didn't leave enough RAM for Photoshop to run | Sep 17 18:53 |
| schestowitz | This friend of mine had his bro become a sociopath | Sep 17 18:53 |
| schestowitz | Paintful stuff | Sep 17 18:53 |
| schestowitz | I met him about 10 years ago | Sep 17 18:53 |
| schestowitz | He did his MBA at the time | Sep 17 18:53 |
| schestowitz | They teach and train them to become sociopath | Sep 17 18:53 |
| schestowitz | Now he works as a manager at Google and doesn't help his patents who funded him | Sep 17 18:53 |
| schestowitz | That changes my perception of Google | Sep 17 18:54 |
| iophk | The have to start a little that direction on their own first | Sep 17 18:54 |
| iophk | The degree just nurtures the bad tendencies | Sep 17 18:54 |
| iophk | I was hoping that Google avoided that type. | Sep 17 18:54 |
| schestowitz | I generally heard many things about MBA and what their conditioning/p;programming involved | Sep 17 18:54 |
| iophk | "Don't be evil" and all that | Sep 17 18:54 |
| schestowitz | heh | Sep 17 18:54 |
| schestowitz | they hired him also for being eccentric | Sep 17 18:55 |
| schestowitz | my friend was here until an hour ago and he said it's his brother who came to Google | Sep 17 18:55 |
| schestowitz | I thought Google only ever hird people that it actively went after | Sep 17 18:55 |
| schestowitz | But this guy really turned hostile towards his family | Sep 17 18:55 |
| schestowitz | just cause he gets a wage near 200k/year | Sep 17 18:55 |
| schestowitz | So much for "Evil" | Sep 17 18:56 |
| schestowitz | You'd think he'd help out his family | Sep 17 18:56 |
| iophk | "patents" above -> "parents" ? | Sep 17 18:56 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 17 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Tendency | Sep 17 18:56 |
| schestowitz | I wrote this word thousands of times | Sep 17 18:56 |
| iophk | muscle memory | Sep 17 18:56 |
| schestowitz | It really upsets me how corporations ruin some families | Sep 17 18:56 |
| schestowitz | I see it around me a lot | Sep 17 18:57 |
| schestowitz | iophk: that too | Sep 17 18:57 |
| iophk | How so? | Sep 17 18:57 |
| schestowitz | like "Weird" | Sep 17 18:57 |
| schestowitz | iophk: they create an artificial mentality | Sep 17 18:57 |
| schestowitz | A mindse of "higher wage,, the better the person" | Sep 17 18:57 |
| schestowitz | And some people aplply that in revrse | Sep 17 18:57 |
| iophk | An artificial alternate reality. | Sep 17 18:57 |
| schestowitz | as in, "this person makes more, therefore is smarter" | Sep 17 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | iophk: yes | Sep 17 18:58 |
| schestowitz | scoting based on wages | Sep 17 18:58 |
| iophk | I think SCA has a better grip on reality than the MBAs in their shared fantasy. | Sep 17 18:58 |
| schestowitz | I loathe that | Sep 17 18:58 |
| schestowitz | *scoring | Sep 17 18:58 |
| schestowitz | iophk: yeah, but.. | Sep 17 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Theyn *need* sociopaths* | Sep 17 18:58 |
| schestowitz | People who make those beneath them nervous | Sep 17 18:58 |
| iophk | I used to know a highly educated person who excelled at her job but was constantly badgered by MBAs | Sep 17 18:58 |
| schestowitz | And diligent | Sep 17 18:58 |
| iophk | no one needs sociopaths | Sep 17 18:59 |
| schestowitz | And the mainstream television programmes encourage this | Sep 17 18:59 |
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| iophk | Even companies don't | Sep 17 18:59 |
| schestowitz | The ideas that you need to strive to be more into this mindset. I see what it does to people sense of self here and it's bad. | Sep 17 18:59 |
| iophk | I would posit that there is a positive correlation between insolvency and MBA presence. | Sep 17 18:59 |
| iophk | — especially back during the dot-com | Sep 17 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Remember that in the UK there is a huge disparaity beween weahty and poor, maybe more so than in the US, which is worse in that regard than ANY middle eastern and north African country | Sep 17 19:00 |
| iophk | and the disparity is growing ... | Sep 17 19:00 |
| iophk | :( | Sep 17 19:00 |
| schestowitz | [18:58] <iophk> I used to know a highly educated person who excelled at her job but was constantly badgered by MBAs | Sep 17 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Maybe that's old Google | Sep 17 19:00 |
| iophk | part of it is the spread of the zero sum game ideology | Sep 17 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Does Google still give employees the famous sapce they gave, like 1 day a week to "do something cool"? | Sep 17 19:00 |
| _Goblin | but then I think the definition of "poor" is far better off than "poor" in other countries. | Sep 17 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Around depression time they cut that off | Sep 17 19:01 |
| schestowitz | And also removed the chafs | Sep 17 19:01 |
| iophk | the badgering was "If you're so smart why ..." | Sep 17 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Not sure these were ever restored | Sep 17 19:01 |
| _Goblin | poor in the UK is probably a decent living in some countries. | Sep 17 19:01 |
| iophk | "..aren't you rich?" | Sep 17 19:01 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: true | Sep 17 19:01 |
| iophk | "...don't you have an MBA?" | Sep 17 19:01 |
| schestowitz | I think they measure in terms of % difference | Sep 17 19:01 |
| msb | That huge disparity of wealth is due to the prevalence of sociopathy in capitalism -- to grab as much money for oneself leaving as little as possible for everyone else, e.g., working people. | Sep 17 19:01 |
| schestowitz | as in, how one feels about $neighbour | Sep 17 19:01 |
| schestowitz | msb: somethign like that... | Sep 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Race to the bottom | Sep 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz | That's why the Western capitalists love communist chaina | Sep 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz | *china | Sep 17 19:03 |
| msb | Benefitting oneself by harming others is pretty much the definition of sociopathy. | Sep 17 19:03 |
| schestowitz | in Austrlia it's pronnounced Choina | Sep 17 19:03 |
| schestowitz | *pronounced | Sep 17 19:03 |
| msb | Governments of capitalist nations attack socialist nations -- invade, bomb, mass murder. Because socialism gives workers the benefit of their work instead of giving it to corporation owners. | Sep 17 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think Iraq or Afghanistan were great examples of social equality | Sep 17 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 17 19:10 |
| msb | Capitalist businessmen use predatory business and economic practices, and then also control the governments of their nations to use military force on other countries. | Sep 17 19:11 |
| msb | DaemonFC: No, they were attacked mostly for reasons involving oil. | Sep 17 19:12 |
| msb | Also just to have wars, which are extremely profitable for weapons manufacturers (falsely called "defense" companies). | Sep 17 19:12 |
| MinceR | so long as the benefit of workers' work is oppression and poverty | Sep 17 19:13 |
| msb | Capitalism always wants to have a war going on, for profit and to keep better control of their own people -- "Don't you know there's a war on?" | Sep 17 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, can tell you all about what "socialists" did to his country | Sep 17 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | they call themselves that.... | Sep 17 19:17 |
| MinceR | i already did | Sep 17 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | until they get into power | Sep 17 19:17 |
| MinceR | but msb behaves like any other religious zealot does and ignores all information that doesn't confirm his beliefs | Sep 17 19:17 |
| msb | The U.S. government always says that its soldiers are protecting the country, even though the ones it attacks -- Korea, Vietnam, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc, etc, have never attacked the U.S. | Sep 17 19:17 |
| MinceR | i even suggested he move to a socialist country and enjoy the benefits he keeps advertising | Sep 17 19:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | dont blame the soldiers, msb | Sep 17 19:18 |
| msb | MinceR: No, I say that Soviet socialism mutated into sociopathic dictatorship and was very bad. | Sep 17 19:19 |
| MinceR | it actually was sociopathic dictatorship the entire time | Sep 17 19:19 |
| MinceR | just like everywhere else | Sep 17 19:19 |
| MinceR | and that is the only thing putting all property into the hands of the state guarantees | Sep 17 19:20 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: I don't blame the soldiers, but rather the rulers and their media propaganda for the lies. | Sep 17 19:20 |
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| Diablo-D3 | carry on then | Sep 17 19:20 |
| PawnStar | hi | Sep 17 19:20 |
| msb | However, I think the lives of US soldiers are no more valuable than those of the people they murder in the invasions. | Sep 17 19:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | but they are no less valuable. | Sep 17 19:22 |
| PawnStar | do you folks remember c.o.l.a before roy started flooding it | Sep 17 19:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | PawnStar: that question is nonsensical | Sep 17 19:23 |
| *schestowitz smells a fish | Sep 17 19:23 | |
| Diablo-D3 | cola didnt exist until microsoft decided to attack roy | Sep 17 19:23 |
| *MinceR smells a troll | Sep 17 19:23 | |
| msb | Diablo-D3: But our media propaganda always emphasizes the deeds of our great soldiers and never the people they slaughter in the countries they invade. | Sep 17 19:23 |
| PawnStar | Diablo-D3: you're kiddinh, right\/ | Sep 17 19:23 |
| schestowitz | msb: not mutually exclusive | Sep 17 19:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | PawnStar: dude, if you're going to troll, I get to troll right back | Sep 17 19:24 |
| PawnStar | c.o.l.a was around long before roy started posting there | Sep 17 19:24 |
| _Goblin | and considerably longer than you will be here if you provoke... | Sep 17 19:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | PawnStar: and just think, Roy is the ultimate troll. Just by you being here, hes winning. | Sep 17 19:24 |
| PawnStar | i've been on c.o.l.a for many years | Sep 17 19:24 |
| msb | Roy posts info that is relevant to the purpose of cola. That is not "flooding". | Sep 17 19:24 |
| PawnStar | Diablo-D3: i came here to chat with Snit, mainly | Sep 17 19:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yet you brought up cola | Sep 17 19:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | Thus, Roy is winning. | Sep 17 19:25 |
| msb | PawnStar: What name do you post under in cola? | Sep 17 19:25 |
| PawnStar | Roy is not even human. he's a spam-bot. no bot has ever defeated me | Sep 17 19:25 |
| schestowitz | flatPrawn? | Sep 17 19:25 |
| _Goblin | PawnStar: I'm sorry Snit is not here, you can find him on G+ as well as COLA. | Sep 17 19:25 |
| PawnStar | i'm not a fan of Snit, btw | Sep 17 19:26 |
| PawnStar | he seems mad to me | Sep 17 19:26 |
| _Goblin | PawnStar: and I believe he took an invite from me for Diaspora | Sep 17 19:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | cola has never been any good | Sep 17 19:26 |
| PawnStar | i think Snit has anger issues | Sep 17 19:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | I tried following it back in the mid 90s, it was mostly anti-GNU shit | Sep 17 19:26 |
| PawnStar | most people in c.o.l.a are insane | Sep 17 19:26 |
| _Goblin | but you came here to talk to him? | Sep 17 19:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | I guess it hasnt changed | Sep 17 19:26 |
| PawnStar | c.o.l.a wasn't anti-gnu shit | Sep 17 19:26 |
| PawnStar | with the exception of a few trolls | Sep 17 19:26 |
| PawnStar | c.o.l.a was fantastic before Roy started flooding it | Sep 17 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Linus Torvalds posted in COLA | Sep 17 19:27 |
| msb | Diablo-D3: I think cola is a fine forum, except that it's full of Microsoft propaganda agents, which do flood it with anti-Linux attacks. | Sep 17 19:27 |
| schestowitz | he's not vehemently anti-gnu | Sep 17 19:27 |
| _Goblin | so why not just killfile if you feel so strongly? | Sep 17 19:27 |
| _Goblin | why come into the techrights channel? | Sep 17 19:27 |
| _Goblin | ah yes I forgot... | Sep 17 19:27 |
| msb | PawnStar: What name do you post under in cola? | Sep 17 19:27 |
| _Goblin | to talk to Snit, the one you say have anger issues. | Sep 17 19:28 |
| schestowitz | msb: dont' ask | Sep 17 19:28 |
| schestowitz | He'd flood the channel | Sep 17 19:28 |
| schestowitz | It can't take a list that big :-) | Sep 17 19:28 |
| PawnStar | no, i'm not flatfish | Sep 17 19:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | msb: well no one uses usenet anymore | Sep 17 19:28 |
| PawnStar | i don't post much nowadays | Sep 17 19:28 |
| _Goblin | does it matter... | Sep 17 19:28 |
| _Goblin | does anyone really care about cola? | Sep 17 19:28 |
| _Goblin | maybe the 10 or so that post.... | Sep 17 19:28 |
| schestowitz | the fda | Sep 17 19:29 |
| PawnStar | i used to post under the name 'mbp' | Sep 17 19:29 |
| _Goblin | not mvp? | Sep 17 19:29 |
| _Goblin | ;) | Sep 17 19:29 |
| PawnStar | lol | Sep 17 19:29 |
| msb | Cola has thousands of subscribers just through google. | Sep 17 19:29 |
| _Goblin | yep I'm sure.... | Sep 17 19:30 |
| _Goblin | and just loads of different and influential people write to it. | Sep 17 19:30 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/search?group=comp.os.linux.advocacy&q=mbp&qt_g=Search+this+group | Sep 17 19:30 |
| PawnStar | Roy, i think that what you said about Steve Jobs was in very, very bad taste | Sep 17 19:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 41.73 KB | Sep 17 19:30 |
| PawnStar | he quit because of cancer, and you claimed that he quit because he sucked at his job | Sep 17 19:30 |
| msb | Usenet is the canonical worldwide forum for its vast variety of subjects. | Sep 17 19:30 |
| _Goblin | its a place for bickering, reciprocated by both sides of the "fence"..... | Sep 17 19:30 |
| schestowitz | I prpovoked trolls | Sep 17 19:30 |
| _Goblin | msb: Im talking COLA | Sep 17 19:31 |
| schestowitz | I didn't actually take plasure in the Jobs thing | Sep 17 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Just seeing the trolls' reaction | Sep 17 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Justifies his Jesus-like image | Sep 17 19:31 |
| PawnStar | that says a lot about your character | Sep 17 19:31 |
| _Goblin | msb: theres still some other great NG's | Sep 17 19:31 |
| PawnStar | you make nasty comments about someone with ill health | Sep 17 19:31 |
| schestowitz | No, about a public figure | Sep 17 19:31 |
| schestowitz | A billionaire who is suign Linux | Sep 17 19:32 |
| schestowitz | A lot | Sep 17 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Aiming to embargo | Sep 17 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Don't paint his as a frail poor man when it suits you | Sep 17 19:32 |
| PawnStar | so? who cares if he's public | Sep 17 19:32 |
| PawnStar | he's suing Linux? | Sep 17 19:32 |
| schestowitz | yes, through Android vendors | Sep 17 19:32 |
| msb | _Goblin: COLA is fine except for the Microsoft propaganda agents. Roy improves it greatly by introducing a lot of relevant discussion areas. | Sep 17 19:32 |
| schestowitz | The Inquirer taunts Jobs worshippers every day | Sep 17 19:33 |
| schestowitz | It does that flamboyantly | Sep 17 19:33 |
| schestowitz | To show how radical they are | Sep 17 19:33 |
| PawnStar | then post about that. lying, by saying that he's leaving because of bad performance, is not on | Sep 17 19:33 |
| PawnStar | if you just lie, nobody takes you seriously | Sep 17 19:33 |
| schestowitz | PawnStar: combination of both | Sep 17 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Health depends on compusure to | Sep 17 19:33 |
| schestowitz | *too | Sep 17 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he though he's not as needed anymore, Cook is the litigation dunce | Sep 17 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Always been | Sep 17 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Since 2009 | Sep 17 19:34 |
| PawnStar | you're saying that he got cancer because he sucked at his job? | Sep 17 19:34 |
| schestowitz | When he threatened Palm | Sep 17 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Now Job leaves the company in the heands of a socipth bigget than him | Sep 17 19:34 |
| schestowitz | To escape and dodge being seen as a bully | Sep 17 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Same with Gates | Sep 17 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Gates left in July 2007 IIRC | Sep 17 19:34 |
| schestowitz | And then Microsoft started extorting Linux | Sep 17 19:35 |
| PawnStar | you're saying that he got cancer because he sucked at his job? | Sep 17 19:35 |
| _Goblin | msb: Im sorry I disagree.....with the exception of a few the Linux "advocates" enjoy the bickering as much as the Microsoft trolls.... its merely arguing....what on earth can be gleamed from COLA that you can't find in a more adult forum elsewhere...its not like COLA is the place for breaking news or sensible adult discussion... | Sep 17 19:35 |
| schestowitz | The July 2007 attacks | Sep 17 19:35 |
| PawnStar | Roy, you'd be more convincing if you stopped lying/deceiving | Sep 17 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:34] <PawnStar> you're saying that he got cancer because he sucked at his job? | Sep 17 19:35 |
| schestowitz | What a silly argument from a dishonest mind | Sep 17 19:35 |
| PawnStar | i'm asking you to clarify your statement | Sep 17 19:35 |
| PawnStar | "<schestowitz> Health depends on compusure to" | Sep 17 19:36 |
| PawnStar | you seem to be saying that his getting cancer was related to his poor form at work | Sep 17 19:36 |
| schestowitz | PawnStar: you claim to havebeen in COLA for ages | Sep 17 19:36 |
| schestowitz | And I can't see your posting history there | Sep 17 19:36 |
| schestowitz | And then you try to daemonise me | Sep 17 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Claiming I said things I never did | Sep 17 19:36 |
| PawnStar | answer the question | Sep 17 19:36 |
| PawnStar | you're saying that he got cancer because he sucked at his job? | Sep 17 19:36 |
| _Goblin | show the quote and link PawnStar | Sep 17 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I think you're just trolling under an imaginary credential | Sep 17 19:36 |
| _Goblin | then let Roy answer | Sep 17 19:37 |
| PawnStar | okay, so you refuse to answer the question | Sep 17 19:37 |
| _Goblin | no.... | Sep 17 19:37 |
| PawnStar | because it's yet more lies from you | Sep 17 19:37 |
| _Goblin | show the quote and link Pawnstar | Sep 17 19:37 |
| iophk | Don't feed the troll | Sep 17 19:37 |
| PawnStar | Roy, you know those politicians everyone hates because they just lie, lie, lie? | Sep 17 19:37 |
| PawnStar | yeah, that's you | Sep 17 19:37 |
| _Goblin | lets all see Roy answer | Sep 17 19:37 |
| PawnStar | good luck with that | Sep 17 19:37 |
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| schestowitz | [19:36] <PawnStar> you're saying that he got cancer because he sucked at his job? | Sep 17 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Did your wife go to the clinic cause you hit her? | Sep 17 19:37 |
| _Goblin | well he couldn't show his link or your quote Roy so I think that answers the question. | Sep 17 19:38 |
| _Goblin | not only the liar of his handle, but the liar on what he was claiming you said. | Sep 17 19:38 |
| schestowitz | I think it's one of the exusting trolls | Sep 17 19:38 |
| msb | _Goblin: I think the Linux advocates in COLA would much more enjoy discussing Linux, but they feel they have to respond to the Microsoft propagandists, to prevent visitors to the newsgroup from being influenced by their lies. | Sep 17 19:38 |
| _Goblin | another one #fails. | Sep 17 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Just nymshifting | Sep 17 19:38 |
| schestowitz | so anyway, msb, I agree with your points about foreign policy | Sep 17 19:39 |
| schestowitz | But people typically cannot see it | Sep 17 19:39 |
| _Goblin | msb: Really...I see many of them saying "don't feed the trolls" then go on to do it themselves...or they create convenient new nyms to do so as they can't challenge directly because they have already claimed to killfile. | Sep 17 19:39 |
| schestowitz | So they don't need to have an element off guilt | Sep 17 19:39 |
| schestowitz | What should evoke shame is actually spun as a source of national pride | Sep 17 19:39 |
| schestowitz | cas eof point: military proganda called air shows | Sep 17 19:39 |
| schestowitz | And they end up with a hole in the ground | Sep 17 19:40 |
| msb | There are no posts in COLA by "mbp" in the google database. | Sep 17 19:40 |
| schestowitz | of course not | Sep 17 19:40 |
| _Goblin | msb: And really, visitors to COLA? You really think a Linux newb is going to find anything of value in COLA? Most modern end-users don't even know what Usenet is.... | Sep 17 19:40 |
| _Goblin | msb: Ive seen more adult conversation and Linux advocacy in one week of the Diaspora Alpha then Ive seen in a year of COLA...... | Sep 17 19:41 |
| iophk | Usenet used to be part of the basic ISP subscription packages. | Sep 17 19:42 |
| _Goblin | yep.... | Sep 17 19:42 |
| _Goblin | Ive a subscription with Tiger now.... | Sep 17 19:42 |
| _Goblin | but its not for COLA> | Sep 17 19:42 |
| iophk | It is probably out of favor with the powers that be because it cannot be throttled or censored. | Sep 17 19:42 |
| iophk | ISPs want a walled garden, governments want subservience | Sep 17 19:43 |
| _Goblin | or its becoming more niche and not a feature the vast majority of their customers want. | Sep 17 19:43 |
| iophk | It is now definitely niche. | Sep 17 19:43 |
| _Goblin | I would guess out of the mainstream at best 1 in 10 would even have heard about Usenet. | Sep 17 19:43 |
| _Goblin | and thats being generous. | Sep 17 19:43 |
| iophk | The absolute numbers of knowledgable IT users is decreasing. | Sep 17 19:44 |
| iophk | The number of novices increases. | Sep 17 19:44 |
| _Goblin | apathy is the biggest enemy of software freedom.... | Sep 17 19:44 |
| iophk | It strikes in many populations. | Sep 17 19:44 |
| _Goblin | right..brb dinner | Sep 17 19:45 |
| schestowitz | [19:44] <iophk> The absolute numbers of knowledgable IT users is decreasing. << define "IT" | Sep 17 19:45 |
| iophk | By any definition, | Sep 17 19:45 |
| iophk | the skilled users are decreasing. | Sep 17 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Does paper-pusher count? Digital one? | Sep 17 19:46 |
| schestowitz | In the UK IT means somethijng different maybe | Sep 17 19:46 |
| msb | _Goblin: Yes, non-posting visitors. As I said, there are 2480 subscribers to COLA via google -- http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?sel=usenet%3Dcomp.os.linux | Sep 17 19:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Groups .::. Size~: 41.38 KB | Sep 17 19:46 |
| iophk | I'd say that no matter how you look at the definition, the number that know what they are doing is decreasing. | Sep 17 19:47 |
| schestowitz | I remember when it was 1500 some time after I had started posting in COLA | Sep 17 19:47 |
| iophk | Take web development. | Sep 17 19:47 |
| iophk | The number of unusable sites is growing. | Sep 17 19:47 |
| iophk | brb | Sep 17 19:47 |
| msb | schestowitz: Me too. It's increasing. | Sep 17 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Number of ub site is growing | Sep 17 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Walled gardens: FB, Twitter, etxc. | Sep 17 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Rather than opening with more and more blog | Sep 17 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Had a chat today about what those sites are doing and how people view them. Some people don't give a damn, they just want to upload photos of whatever | Sep 17 19:48 |
| schestowitz | They leave the thinking until later, when they lose their puzzle pieces | Sep 17 19:48 |
| msb | Unfortunately people are educated -- by religion, TV, etc. -- to avoid thinking. | Sep 17 19:50 |
| msb | That makes them easier to control. | Sep 17 19:50 |
| MinceR | thankfully there are a few people on whom this "education" fails :> | Sep 17 19:50 |
| msb | Yes! | Sep 17 19:50 |
| schestowitz | Shame on us | Sep 17 19:51 |
| schestowitz | !google bush shame on me | Sep 17 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - President Bush -- Fool me Once - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D8Ux3DKxxFoM | Sep 17 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bush "Fool Me Once..." - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DeKgPY1adc0A | Sep 17 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bushisms - Top 10 Stupid Bush Quotes | http://politicalhumor.about.com/cs/georgewbush/a/top10bushisms.htm | Sep 17 19:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Trinicenter.com - More Shame on Bush. Fool Me Once... | http://trinicenter.com/modules.php%3Fname%3DNews%26file%3Darticle%26sid%3D27 | Sep 17 19:51 |
| schestowitz | http://status.net/2011/09/16/status-of-upgrade-to-statusnet-1-0-0-on-identi-ca-and-statusnet-cloud | Sep 17 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Status of upgrade to StatusNet 1.0.0 on Identi.ca and StatusNet Cloud | StatusNet .::. Size~: 20.7 KB | Sep 17 19:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 17 19:54 |
| schestowitz | Hope the service is back up soon. | Sep 17 19:54 |
| schestowitz | I am getting withdraw symptoms. | Sep 17 19:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 17 19:54 |
| msb | schestowitz: No shame on you. You broadcast essential information in many forums to alert people to what's going on in the computer/Internet world. | Sep 17 19:54 |
| schestowitz | I should have added "/sarcasm" | Sep 17 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Linux is winning now | Sep 17 19:56 |
| schestowitz | But not GNU | Sep 17 19:56 |
| schestowitz | GNU is like the divorved/estranged wife of a singer making a breakthrough | Sep 17 19:56 |
| schestowitz | She's still around to claim some glory and hang out with hold friends, but she doesn't get much appreciation | Sep 17 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Android is now the main new victor | Sep 17 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Unclear what would happen if Android took over laptops as well | Sep 17 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu is losing mostly o Android | Sep 17 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Not Windows | Sep 17 19:57 |
| schestowitz | or mac os X | Sep 17 19:58 |
| schestowitz | So Android becomes the onyl standing mobile Linux | Sep 17 19:58 |
| schestowitz | And also the Linux with most impact | Sep 17 19:58 |
| schestowitz | !google dibona android linux dream come true | Sep 17 19:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Google: Android is “the Linux Desktop Dream Come True” | http://lxnews.org/2011/07/18/android-is-the-linux-desktop-dream/ | Sep 17 19:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Chris Dibona On Free Software and Google ... - Linux - Slashdot | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/07/12/1723224/Chris-Dibona-On-Free-Software-and-Google | Sep 17 19:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Google: "Android is the Linux desktop dream come true ... | http://derstandard.at/1308186313932/Interview-Google-Android-is-the-Linux-desktop-dream-come-true | Sep 17 19:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Google: Android Is The Linux Dream Come True | http://digitizor.com/2011/07/12/google-android-linux-dream/ | Sep 17 19:58 |
| msb | " <_Goblin> msb: Really...I see many of them saying "don't feed the trolls" then go on to do it themselves" Debunking the Microsoft anti-Linux propaganda lies in COLA is called "feeding the trolls" by some, but it really isn't. The MS agents post their lies regardless of whether anyone responds. They are not actually "trolls". | Sep 17 19:58 |
| MinceR | 211309 < schestowitz> Unclear what would happen if Android took over laptops as well | Sep 17 19:59 |
| MinceR | dumb laptops? :> | Sep 17 19:59 |
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| DaemonFC | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Windows_8 | Sep 17 20:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Sep 17 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | "On September 16, 2011, Microsoft announced that the Immersive Version of Internet Explorer 10 will not work with Adobe Flash or any other Active X plugins. Instead it will use HTML5. The Desktop Version of IE10 will continue to support Active X plugins including Flash" | Sep 17 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Sep 17 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | PR agents use Wikipedia | Sep 17 20:01 |
| schestowitz | to announce stuff | Sep 17 20:01 |
| schestowitz | and MVPs too | Sep 17 20:01 |
| schestowitz | It's absurb when the PR industry and media/informarion industry work so tightly together | Sep 17 20:02 |
| iophk | It's made a mess of Wikipedia | Sep 17 20:02 |
| schestowitz | You don't know the difference between ads/endorsements and actual analysis | Sep 17 20:02 |
| msb | The modular set of tools which is GNU/Linux and its apps has no equal for intelligent people who want to accomplish complex tasks. | Sep 17 20:02 |
| schestowitz | iophk: see the Zune pages | Sep 17 20:02 |
| iophk | Only those with the resources to camp on pages get heard | Sep 17 20:02 |
| schestowitz | It's all just like toned down marketing | Sep 17 20:02 |
| iophk | Why the zune pages? | Sep 17 20:02 |
| iophk | !google zune turd | Sep 17 20:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Who got the turd (brown Zune) for Christmas? - iLounge Forums | http://forums.ilounge.com/lounge/184939-who-got-turd-brown-zune-christmas.html | Sep 17 20:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft unveils Zune 30GB player, Zune Marketplace; declines to ... | http://macdailynews.com/2006/09/14/microsoft_unveils_zune_30gb_player_zune_marketplace/ | Sep 17 20:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Urban Dictionary: zune crap | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dzune%2520crap | Sep 17 20:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft and IT Latest News | http://www.microsoftshitbrick.com/ | Sep 17 20:03 |
| schestowitz | iophk: or get herd | Sep 17 20:03 |
| schestowitz | at some stage searching google for waggener put techrights' wiki about it in page 1 | Sep 17 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | So now it's only Spyware Toolbar Explorer on the classic desktop, and on the Metro desktop it won't play your favorite porn sites.....I mean, "youtube" | Sep 17 20:03 |
| MinceR | so i herd you like mudkips | Sep 17 20:03 |
| schestowitz | W-E must not have liked it | Sep 17 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they could hire sme blackhat SEO to cancel those out | Sep 17 20:04 |
| iophk | did you save a screen shot of the search? | Sep 17 20:04 |
| MinceR | who's W-E? | Sep 17 20:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: do not want | Sep 17 20:04 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 17 20:04 |
| iophk | MinceR: one of the main PR firms working for M$ | Sep 17 20:04 |
| schestowitz | !google waggener edstromm | Sep 17 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - PR Agency | Digital Communications | Waggener Edstrom Worldwide | http://waggeneredstrom.com/ | Sep 17 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Careers | Waggener Edstrom Worldwide | http://waggeneredstrom.com/careers | Sep 17 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Contact | Waggener Edstrom Worldwide | http://www.waggeneredstrom.com/contact | Sep 17 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Waggener Edstrom Worldwide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waggener_Edstrom_Worldwide | Sep 17 20:04 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 17 20:04 |
| schestowitz | PR Watch has a page on them | Sep 17 20:05 |
| schestowitz | CMD (PR Watch parent) has just won a journalism award | Sep 17 20:05 |
| schestowitz | I'm onlin friends with some people there | Sep 17 20:05 |
| msb | So GNU/Linux has a niche appeal, but it is to intelligent thinking people. While we are unfortunately a minority, we seed ideas into the rest of the population. And we certainly are not going away. | Sep 17 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Their organisation oft he wiki is something we need to emulate in TR, eventually | Sep 17 20:05 |
| iophk | It's a small portion of the population that thinks. | Sep 17 20:05 |
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| schestowitz | msb: or intelligent companies | Sep 17 20:06 |
| schestowitz | They foist it | Sep 17 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Sotrage servers, tomtom, etc. | Sep 17 20:06 |
| schestowitz | We don't need to market Linux to people, escept where there is rampant OEM corruption (desktop) | Sep 17 20:06 |
| schestowitz | *Except | Sep 17 20:06 |
| msb | iophk: Unfortunately so. But we encourage everyone to think. We fight against the programming of minds. | Sep 17 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Imet my mate from Canada today and told him to install Linux | Sep 17 20:07 |
| schestowitz | I guess I could do that whil;e he was here, but to him the price point was an appealing point, so he'll get it done | Sep 17 20:07 |
| schestowitz | I told him about OOo and Firefox | Sep 17 20:07 |
| schestowitz | People know these, esp. Firefox | Sep 17 20:08 |
| schestowitz | he mostly works through the web browser | Sep 17 20:08 |
| iophk | Nearly everyone I run into uses Firefox | Sep 17 20:08 |
| schestowitz | many people do, so they get tablets and netbooks | Sep 17 20:08 |
| msb | Microsoft's secret contract with computer vendors forbids them from from installing any other OS along with Windows on their machines, and dual-booting. | Sep 17 20:08 |
| iophk | Apparently it is the plugins that make it extra attractive. | Sep 17 20:08 |
| schestowitz | or put another shell on top of Windows | Sep 17 20:08 |
| schestowitz | like KDE | Sep 17 20:08 |
| schestowitz | It has to be MSIE by default | Sep 17 20:08 |
| schestowitz | WMP by default | Sep 17 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Metro/Fisher Price by fdefault | Sep 17 20:09 |
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| iophk | You can't get rid of MSIE without first getting rid of Windows. | Sep 17 20:09 |
| msb | But fortunately one can install Firefox and just not use MSIE. | Sep 17 20:09 |
| schestowitz | I saw some ditry B0ng tricks | Sep 17 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Friends whose machine forcs them to use B0ng | Sep 17 20:09 |
| iophk | 2GB of RAM in a Netbook with Linux makes a big difference. | Sep 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Or cancels out their Google prefs whenever they close the browser | Sep 17 20:10 |
| iophk | How does their machine force them into Bung? | Sep 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | The vole is not being punished for these clear abuses | Sep 17 20:10 |
| iophk | Is that a WIndows thing? | Sep 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | yes | Sep 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | the solution is to get rid of OEM corruotion | Sep 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | And then let people PAY for Windows | Sep 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | See if they buy it | Sep 17 20:10 |
| iophk | The more I learn about Windows the more disgusting it seems. | Sep 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | $200 for BSOD thing | Sep 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Or just default fre OS with firefox | Sep 17 20:11 |
| iophk | Yes it is the choke hold on the OEMs that is the problem in market share | Sep 17 20:11 |
| schestowitz | AND an office suite | Sep 17 20:11 |
| schestowitz | here in the UK this company I bought sa serve for advertises OpenOfifce.org | Sep 17 20:11 |
| schestowitz | On rfurbished boxes | Sep 17 20:11 |
| iophk | If security were a concern, M$ would drop MSIE and just license Opera. | Sep 17 20:11 |
| schestowitz | For both Windows and Linux | Sep 17 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Both boast preinstalled OOoo | Sep 17 20:11 |
| schestowitz | But WIndows is charged for separately | Sep 17 20:11 |
| schestowitz | so one is better off going with the default (Linux) | Sep 17 20:12 |
| iophk | Good. It should be a separate charge. | Sep 17 20:12 |
| schestowitz | iophk: Opera has just improved native gtk support | Sep 17 20:12 |
| iophk | If only OEMs were that way. | Sep 17 20:12 |
| schestowitz | but having proprietary code would be a selling point for MS | Sep 17 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Having Windows web chat packages didn't stop MS from buying skype | Sep 17 20:12 |
| schestowitz | They might want to hide behind another brand | Sep 17 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Like Opera | Sep 17 20:12 |
| schestowitz | !google dvorak microsoft opera | Sep 17 20:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Is Opera in Microsoft's future? - John Dvorak's Second Opinion ... | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-opera-in-microsofts-future | Sep 17 20:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Dvorak: Microsoft should buy Opera | http://operawatch.com/news/2005/12/dvorak-microsoft-should-buy-opera.html | Sep 17 20:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - What Will Become of Opera? | http://gadgetopia.com/post/3313 | Sep 17 20:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft or Google to buy Opera? | 456 Berea Street | http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200512/microsoft_or_google_to_buy_opera/ | Sep 17 20:13 |
| iophk | M$ can only stay on top in the desktop as long as the overwhelming majority get no hands on experience with other systems. | Sep 17 20:14 |
| iophk | If they do, then their FUD is exposed and people will start to ignore them. | Sep 17 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Does someone here use Integrated Lights-Out ? | Sep 17 20:14 |
| schestowitz | I'm trying to find some material on it | Sep 17 20:15 |
| iophk | You mean a tiny computer piggybacked onto the main computer? | Sep 17 20:15 |
| iophk | I used it briefly a few years ago. | Sep 17 20:16 |
| msb | iophk: Exactly! That's why MS prevents dual-booting, censors publications with its advertising money, attacks Linux with the SCO lawsuit and patents, and floods COLA with lying propaganda. | Sep 17 20:16 |
| iophk | You can also buy kits that allow you to start/stop power over the web. | Sep 17 20:16 |
| iophk | msb: agreed | Sep 17 20:16 |
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| goblin_ | schestowitz: Am I right in thinking Sebsebseb will be coming on TechBytes next ep? | Sep 17 20:28 |
| schestowitz | yes, if possible :-) | Sep 17 20:30 |
| schestowitz | btw, auitojoin the techbytes channel | Sep 17 20:31 |
| schestowitz | to avoid us talking about stuff out of context here :-) | Sep 17 20:31 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/nealmcb/status/113329940572811264 | Sep 17 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @nealmcb: @totn "America Invents" patent "reform" act is a sham. We need a ban on software patents which are BAD for innovation! http://t.co/WwuwBJv | Sep 17 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Sep 17 20:32 |
| goblin_ | schestowitz: didn't realize we still ran that..... | Sep 17 20:33 |
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| iophk | gtg | Sep 17 20:44 |
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| abushcrafter | schestowitz: pong (you ping I pong) :) | Sep 17 21:10 |
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| abushcrafter | !google c.o.l.a | Sep 17 21:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - COLA - Laboratory Accreditation | http://www.cola.org/ | Sep 17 21:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Cola - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cola | Sep 17 21:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Coca-Cola Global: Soft Drinks & Beverage Products | http://www.coca-cola.com/ | Sep 17 21:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Cost-of-Living Adjustment (COLA) Information | http://www.ssa.gov/cola/ | Sep 17 21:19 |
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| koolhead17 | hi guys | Sep 17 21:27 |
| schestowitz | Hello | Sep 17 21:30 |
| schestowitz | Happy Software Freeodm Day | Sep 17 21:30 |
| abushcrafter | !google c".o.l.a" | Sep 17 21:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Coca-Cola Global: Soft Drinks & Beverage Products | http://www.coca-cola.com/ | Sep 17 21:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Cola - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cola | Sep 17 21:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - COLA - Laboratory Accreditation | http://www.cola.org/ | Sep 17 21:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - 2011 Cost-of-Living Allowance (COLA) | Military.com | http://www.military.com/benefits/content/military-pay/allowances/cost-of-living-allowance-cola.html | Sep 17 21:31 |
| abushcrafter | !google "c.o.l.a" | Sep 17 21:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - COLA - Laboratory Accreditation | http://www.cola.org/ | Sep 17 21:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Cola - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cola | Sep 17 21:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Coca-Cola Global: Soft Drinks & Beverage Products | http://www.coca-cola.com/ | Sep 17 21:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Cost-of-Living Adjustment (COLA) Information | http://www.ssa.gov/cola/ | Sep 17 21:31 |
| schestowitz | Google doesn't index like this | Sep 17 21:32 |
| schestowitz | It's not compatible with its tokenisation | Sep 17 21:32 |
| schestowitz | And IIRC the quotes syntax does not adhere to what the bot, TechrightsBot-tr, is programmed to do | Sep 17 21:32 |
| abushcrafter | I have seem refs to cola before and I don't get it. | Sep 17 21:32 |
| abushcrafter | oh | Sep 17 21:32 |
| schestowitz | it's a newsgrup | Sep 17 21:33 |
| schestowitz | USENET | Sep 17 21:33 |
| schestowitz | comp.os.linux.advocacy (COLA) | Sep 17 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Some of our post news there and chat | Sep 17 21:33 |
| abushcrafter | must find out more about usenet | Sep 17 21:33 |
| schestowitz | You needn't | Sep 17 21:33 |
| schestowitz | USENET is dying | Sep 17 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Think of it like MySpace | Sep 17 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Sooner or later it'll be like ARPANET | Sep 17 21:33 |
| abushcrafter | oh | Sep 17 21:33 |
| abushcrafter | though, Is it a website? | Sep 17 21:34 |
| schestowitz | No, it predates the Web | Sep 17 21:34 |
| schestowitz | It uses nntp | Sep 17 21:34 |
| schestowitz | not http/www | Sep 17 21:34 |
| _Goblin | Usenet is dying..however, I think we will see an increase in subs to providers because of the increasing popularity of the binaries. | Sep 17 21:34 |
| schestowitz | The binaries are nother matter | Sep 17 21:35 |
| schestowitz | They're just using rhe same protocol | Sep 17 21:35 |
| schestowitz | They're not quite newsgroups per se, just a twist on the framework/infrstructure | Sep 17 21:35 |
| schestowitz | decntralised distribution on nodes | Sep 17 21:35 |
| _Goblin | yep....and still posted to Usenet, indexed in multiples by nzb | Sep 17 21:35 |
| schestowitz | It's one of the last-standing peer to peer (with nodes) methods | Sep 17 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Cause MAFIAA is attacking torrent and p2p | Sep 17 21:36 |
| _Goblin | no such attacks can be made on Usenet...or at least not as far as the "end-user" is concerned. | Sep 17 21:36 |
| _Goblin | ho hum... | Sep 17 21:39 |
| _Goblin | what to do..... | Sep 17 21:39 |
| _Goblin | been playing around with Dyne:Bolik | Sep 17 21:39 |
| abushcrafter | any advantages over other decentralized communication? there's disploma, statusnet? what else is there? | Sep 17 21:40 |
| _Goblin | disploma? | Sep 17 21:40 |
| _Goblin | diaspora? | Sep 17 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Bolic? | Sep 17 21:40 |
| _Goblin | lol | Sep 17 21:40 |
| _Goblin | yep | Sep 17 21:40 |
| abushcrafter | sorry can't spell | Sep 17 21:40 |
| _Goblin | neither can I! | Sep 17 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Dyne:Borat | Sep 17 21:40 |
| abushcrafter | byoric | Sep 17 21:40 |
| schestowitz | isnice | Sep 17 21:40 |
| schestowitz | really | Sep 17 21:40 |
| schestowitz | my dad watched it yesterday | Sep 17 21:41 |
| _Goblin | http://www.dynebolic.org/ | Sep 17 21:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: dyne:bolic GNU/Linux | The instant bootable operating system .::. Size~: 26.35 KB | Sep 17 21:41 |
| schestowitz | is nice | Sep 17 21:41 |
| _Goblin | .... | Sep 17 21:41 |
| schestowitz | is nice? | Sep 17 21:41 |
| _Goblin | we'll see | Sep 17 21:41 |
| schestowitz | "your wife is beautiful. And she...." | Sep 17 21:42 |
| _Goblin | "Free software is about having control over the technology we use...." - Ive a few comments on that statement. | Sep 17 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Been ages since I watched it in the cinema... | Sep 17 21:43 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: it's about many thigns | Sep 17 21:43 |
| schestowitz | To different people | Sep 17 21:43 |
| schestowitz | to a lot of people like me it's about control | Sep 17 21:43 |
| _Goblin | Yep, I'm sure... | Sep 17 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Cause we know how to change the programs | Sep 17 21:43 |
| schestowitz | with proprietary you need to ask someone else to do it and it's unlikely tro get done as those with the source code restrain such stuff so as to keep more control over the customer | Sep 17 21:44 |
| _Goblin | tell me though, if you have a user who has migrated to linux and has a dependency on relics from Windows (say a collection of WMV files) how is it having control over the tech if the distro won't support it? | Sep 17 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Free software is also a consumer rights elevator | Sep 17 21:44 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: linux can handle those files | Sep 17 21:45 |
| schestowitz | In fact, it can handle most such things | Sep 17 21:45 |
| schestowitz | With wine too | Sep 17 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Some people are too lazy to try that | Sep 17 21:45 |
| schestowitz | !google fsf priority list | Sep 17 21:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - High Priority Free Software Projects — Free Software Foundation ... | http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/ | Sep 17 21:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - FSF reboots its High Priority list with a grant and call for input — Free ... | http://www.fsf.org/news/FSF_reboots_hpp_list | Sep 17 21:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - High Priority Free Software Projects - Free Software Foundation | https://my.fsf.org/donate/directed-donations/high-priority | Sep 17 21:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Linux.com :: FSF high priority list becomes a campaign, seeks ... | http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/149424 | Sep 17 21:45 |
| _Goblin | Im talking the distro's that don't out of the box...nor do they encourage it....I know Linux can handle WMV...Ive used it myself. | Sep 17 21:45 |
| schestowitz | These are some of the areas where impasse remains | Sep 17 21:45 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: wmv is proprietary | Sep 17 21:46 |
| schestowitz | So to have control over the technology you probably want to start by running lame -[opt] * | Sep 17 21:46 |
| schestowitz | This way all you need to play the files is some freely-downloadable binary and accompanying source code | Sep 17 21:46 |
| schestowitz | The whole stack beneath is free too | Sep 17 21:47 |
| schestowitz | gcc, toolchain, linux... | Sep 17 21:47 |
| _Goblin | The fight to rid the world of proprietary file formats/codecs should be taken to the distributer of materials/products not the end-user....you aint gonna convince someone to use ogg if Lady Gaga is only consumed in mp3. | Sep 17 21:47 |
| schestowitz | This means you can make a media player without asking anyone permission for some "licence"... hardware player or s/w plater | Sep 17 21:47 |
| schestowitz | *yer | Sep 17 21:47 |
| schestowitz | ogg has critical mass issue | Sep 17 21:48 |
| schestowitz | but... | Sep 17 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Webm is succeeding | Sep 17 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Already billions of files | Sep 17 21:48 |
| schestowitz | in youtube | Sep 17 21:48 |
| schestowitz | they star with critical mass at least for video | Sep 17 21:48 |
| schestowitz | And youitube drove some other video hosting sites out of biz | Sep 17 21:48 |
| schestowitz | !google soapbox shuts down | Sep 17 21:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft's Soapbox shuts down, Broadband continues to grow ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DIguTPdYqX1w | Sep 17 21:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft closing YouTube rival | Microsoft - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10292031-75.html | Sep 17 21:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Video: Microsoft Shuts Down Soapbox | http://videos.webpronews.com/2007/03/23/microsofts-soapbox-shuts-down-broadband-continues-to-grow-googles-simple-site-pays/ | Sep 17 21:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - ModelMayhem.com - Government Shut Down | http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php%3Fthread_id%3D743622 | Sep 17 21:48 |
| _Goblin | the content providers need to be encouraged first to adopt ogg, the end-user will then fall in to place. As it stands with the mainstream works its mostly mp3...thats why you will never convince the mainstream... | Sep 17 21:48 |
| schestowitz | I find youtube very handy as a viewer and also cintroibutor | Sep 17 21:48 |
| schestowitz | mp3 patrnts expire soon | Sep 17 21:49 |
| schestowitz | and there are codecs for these in repos | Sep 17 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Soon these will be legal to download everywhere | Sep 17 21:49 |
| schestowitz | The patent treadmill doesn't last on that one | Sep 17 21:49 |
| schestowitz | FLAC on the other hand.. | Sep 17 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Actually, codecs are soon not going to be an issue | Sep 17 21:49 |
| schestowitz | MPEG-LA is worried | Sep 17 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Google moves its video empire to vp8 | Sep 17 21:50 |
| zoobab | hi | Sep 17 21:50 |
| schestowitz | and audio patents on mp3 are nearly over | Sep 17 21:50 |
| schestowitz | hi, zoobab | Sep 17 21:50 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: I have some more cables coming | Sep 17 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Lots on the EU patent | Sep 17 21:50 |
| schestowitz | From 2009 and 2010 even | Sep 17 21:50 |
| zoobab | ahah | Sep 17 21:50 |
| schestowitz | I'll organise these in a wiki later | Sep 17 21:50 |
| zoobab | The Nokia and Microsoft patents were bundled into a Luxembourg-based holding company called Core Wireless Licensing S.a.r.l. before the holding company was sold to Mosaid. Specific details about Core Wireless are shrouded in mystery. | Sep 17 21:59 |
| zoobab | Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Mosaid+deal+raises+worry+anti+trust+probes/5416913/story.html#ixzz1YFIABKK9 | Sep 17 21:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mosaid deal raises worry of anti-trust probes .::. Size~: 192.13 KB | Sep 17 21:59 |
| zoobab | ur1.ca down? | Sep 17 22:01 |
| schestowitz | yes | Sep 17 22:02 |
| schestowitz | probably | Sep 17 22:02 |
| schestowitz | statusnet/identica is upgrading this weekend | Sep 17 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Moving to version 1.0.0 with some new features | Sep 17 22:02 |
| schestowitz | A friend of mine (and colleague) who is a developer of an app that works with them is still trying to ensure it stays compatible | Sep 17 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Evan said that they had few bugs/glitches migration and they still work on it | Sep 17 22:02 |
| schestowitz | That's why you don't see TRIdentica outputting anything | Sep 17 22:03 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: good article. I'll write about it tomorrow | Sep 17 22:08 |
| schestowitz | I also have two more cables on the EU Patent | Sep 17 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Cables from Brussels | Sep 17 22:09 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/4DFBN.jpg | Sep 17 22:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Sep 17 22:10 |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/Wr5XO.jpg | Sep 17 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Sep 17 22:11 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I'll be in London next month, I think | Sep 17 22:14 |
| _Goblin | Hopefully I'll have better luck | Sep 17 22:14 |
| schestowitz | We need to take some photographs | Sep 17 22:14 |
| _Goblin | :) | Sep 17 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Even for our web site | Sep 17 22:14 |
| _Goblin | yep....its amazing how quickly time passes...those photos are old now! | Sep 17 22:14 |
| _Goblin | heres something I forgot to tell you.... | Sep 17 22:15 |
| schestowitz | The site served 12k pages last month | Sep 17 22:15 |
| schestowitz | bytesmedia | Sep 17 22:15 |
| _Goblin | if you needed an example of Ms Linton's integrity......her site tuxmachines linked my rebuttle of her views on Jono.....very fair and honest lady... | Sep 17 22:16 |
| schestowitz | I'm making a DB backup at the moment | Sep 17 22:16 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: she is | Sep 17 22:16 |
| schestowitz | I used to chat with her | Sep 17 22:17 |
| schestowitz | I remember back when I wrote for an online magazine she also asked me for ways of getting in | Sep 17 22:17 |
| schestowitz | She now writes for DW, LJ, OStatic | Sep 17 22:17 |
| _Goblin | Now she would be a good guest for the show... | Sep 17 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Ostatic lost many of its writers | Sep 17 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Kristin, Joe, Lia, load more | Sep 17 22:17 |
| schestowitz | It's mainly Sam and Susan now | Sep 17 22:18 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: she's not into that... voice | Sep 17 22:18 |
| schestowitz | or photos | Sep 17 22:18 |
| schestowitz | She doesn't publicise herself | Sep 17 22:18 |
| schestowitz | More like PJ | Sep 17 22:18 |
| schestowitz | But do ask her | Sep 17 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Seopher once got her to do an interview with him... in text | Sep 17 22:18 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber also looks forward to being on the show | Sep 17 22:19 |
| schestowitz | We're just bad at setting those meetings up | Sep 17 22:19 |
| schestowitz | RMS.. | Sep 17 22:19 |
| _Goblin | I'll can certainly ask her. | Sep 17 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Better you than I cause she likes your blog | Sep 17 22:21 |
| schestowitz | But we have to actually set those up | Sep 17 22:22 |
| schestowitz | We take people on the list but neglect to agree on times to record with them | Sep 17 22:22 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Possible_TechBytes_Guests | Sep 17 22:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Possible TechBytes Guests - Techrights .::. Size~: 13.92 KB | Sep 17 22:22 |
| schestowitz | I'll add susan | Sep 17 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Youtube countes are odd | Sep 17 22:27 |
| schestowitz | They only count as "view" cases where the user/visitor opens the video ina standalone tab | Sep 17 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Not channel or embed | Sep 17 22:28 |
| abushcrafter | but mp3 is rubbish | Sep 17 22:34 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/#!/Groklaw | Sep 17 22:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Groklaw (@Groklaw) on Twitter .::. Size~: 36.98 KB | Sep 17 22:34 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/#!/groklawnews | Sep 17 22:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Groklaw (@groklawnews) on Twitter .::. Size~: 34.79 KB | Sep 17 22:34 |
| schestowitz | I wonder which one is Mark | Sep 17 22:34 |
| schestowitz | The older one they put up when the RSS feeed broke | Sep 17 22:34 |
| _Goblin | "but mp3 is rubbish" - Maybe so in your opinion abushcrafter, however you have a hell of a lot of people to tell that too... | Sep 17 22:39 |
| _Goblin | *to | Sep 17 22:39 |
| abushcrafter | _Goblin: I know. I will be keeped busy then | Sep 17 22:41 |
| abushcrafter | echo "1 down [*-*] to go" | Sep 17 22:42 |
| abushcrafter | lol | Sep 17 22:42 |
| abushcrafter | or > echo "1 down * to go" | Sep 17 22:43 |
| abushcrafter | Just have a listen your self. | Sep 17 22:44 |
| _Goblin | abushcrafter: thats why I say, the campaign should be taken to the content providers not the end-user....as long as Lady Gaga is vomiting out its rubbish on mp3, then thats what the mainstream will suck up. | Sep 17 22:56 |
| abushcrafter | There is that. | Sep 17 22:57 |
| _Goblin | talking of music.....been really into Alestorm...shame we can't play it on TechBytes... :( | Sep 17 22:57 |
| _Goblin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2tU3UJ9xJ8&feature=fvst | Sep 17 22:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Alestorm- Wolves of the Sea - YouTube .::. Size~: 89.27 KB | Sep 17 22:58 |
| abushcrafter | But then they say only if the customers/zombies ask for it. :( | Sep 17 22:59 |
| _Goblin | Yeah I suppose... | Sep 17 22:59 |
| DrumScum | _Goblin: why can't you play alestorm on techrights? | Sep 17 23:04 |
| *sebsebseb (~3seb@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #techrights | Sep 17 23:08 | |
| sebsebseb | hi | Sep 17 23:08 |
| *DaemonFC (~ryan@99.181.227.206) has joined #techrights | Sep 17 23:12 | |
| _Goblin | DrumScum: Copyright | Sep 17 23:14 |
| _Goblin | DrumScum: and we don't have a ppl. | Sep 17 23:15 |
| MinceR | ppl? | Sep 17 23:16 |
| *XFaCE (~freakazoi@unaffiliated/xface) has joined #techrights | Sep 17 23:16 | |
| _Goblin | public performance licence. | Sep 17 23:17 |
| XFaCE | It's a beautiful day in my IRC room | Sep 17 23:17 |
| XFaCE | lol | Sep 17 23:17 |
| XFaCE | interesting way to open this chat | Sep 17 23:17 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: All I saw was "public performance licence." | Sep 17 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | I have 585 messages in my Yahoo mail apparently | Sep 17 23:19 |
| XFaCE | Dunn-dunn-dunnn! | Sep 17 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | 585 of which are no doubt spam | Sep 17 23:19 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: I looked at GMX and thought it was ok I guess. | Sep 17 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | beats gmail, hotmail, or yahoo | Sep 17 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | the last time I used that Yahoo mail for actual mail was probably around 2004 | Sep 17 23:21 |
| XFaCE | web 1.1 :D | Sep 17 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | my Yahoo profile says I've been a member since 1999 | Sep 17 23:21 |
| msb | For music, how about Uprising by Muse? Official version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog&ob=av2n "Enhanced" version, very powerful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTDwIN9oLvY | Sep 17 23:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Muse - Uprising - YouTube .::. Size~: 102.93 KB | Sep 17 23:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Muse - Uprising (HQ) - YouTube .::. Size~: 87.96 KB | Sep 17 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | that was when Yahoo was neat | Sep 17 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | before they became crappy and eventually an arm of Microsoft | Sep 17 23:22 |
| XFaCE | Yahoo Music Videos, etc. | Sep 17 23:24 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: an old post of yours has just been linked on Diaspora...http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2005/11/21/windows-is-smoking/ | Sep 17 23:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Windows is Like… Smoking .::. Size~: 31.59 KB | Sep 17 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | Our free trial of Kung Fu has expired! | Sep 17 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | (from The Matrix Runs on Windows) | Sep 17 23:29 |
| abushcrafter | System Syn: Here's To You. Describes the feelings have about school,"people". http://www.dependent.de/media/audio/mp3/System_Syn_Heres_to_You.zip http://www.systemsyn.com/ mp3 Yuck! need do "ask for flac" plan B | Sep 17 23:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting application/zip type | Sep 17 23:36 |
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| abushcrafter | Me mem is low btw | Sep 17 23:36 |
| abushcrafter | That was me on diaspora. | Sep 17 23:37 |
| _Goblin | oh right | Sep 17 23:41 |
| _Goblin | never knew....sorry | Sep 17 23:41 |
| _Goblin | you liking Diaspora? | Sep 17 23:42 |
| _Goblin | I think its fantastic. | Sep 17 23:42 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: thanks :-) | Sep 17 23:57 |
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