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| sebsebseb | hi | Oct 27 18:31 |
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| schestowitz | hi sebsebseb | Oct 27 20:24 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hi | Oct 27 20:24 |
| schestowitz | what's up? | Oct 27 20:25 |
| schestowitz | We moght record a new ep tonight | Oct 27 20:25 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok | Oct 27 20:25 |
| sebsebseb | not much | Oct 27 20:25 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: cold really don't like this time of year | Oct 27 20:26 |
| schestowitz | :/ | Oct 27 20:27 |
| schestowitz | I had a weird day muself | Oct 27 20:27 |
| schestowitz | rose in the rain | Oct 27 20:27 |
| schestowitz | and my bag's punch part, where I keep my wallets and stuff, got torn | Oct 27 20:27 |
| schestowitz | I need to take it to the shop to get it fixed. | Oct 27 20:27 |
| sebsebseb | rose in the rain? | Oct 27 20:28 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84720950 http://identi.ca/conversation/84659615#notice-84720950 | Oct 27 20:31 |
| TechrightsBot | @Johnny Null (johnnynull)'s status on Thursday, 27-Oct-11 19:20:05 UTC - Identi.ca: Nonsense. | Oct 27 20:31 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.02 KB | Oct 27 20:31 |
| schestowitz | I get some flak today for my remarks about Firefox | Oct 27 20:31 |
| schestowitz | "when you take $ from MS they will always try to demand more Influence or they cut their funds.They will corrupt Mozilla. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/682577 | Oct 27 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot | @: | Oct 27 20:32 |
| schestowitz | The financial dependence on Microsoft, for example, is more troubling than on Google (GSoC). | Oct 27 20:32 |
| schestowitz | "Mozilla should select their default search engine by good randomness" | Oct 27 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Sorry, thought you used chrome.https://joindiaspora.com/posts/682577 | Oct 27 20:33 |
| TechrightsBot | @: | Oct 27 20:33 |
| schestowitz | http://joindiaspora.com/posts/681666 | Oct 27 20:33 |
| TechrightsBot | @: | Oct 27 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Chrome is a search bar (ads)with a browser 'around' it | Oct 27 20:33 |
| MinceR | isn't it better if they depend on multiple sources? | Oct 27 20:34 |
| schestowitz | who, FF? | Oct 27 20:50 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, mandriva used konq to refer to ask or something | Oct 27 20:50 |
| MinceR | Mozilla | Oct 27 20:53 |
| schestowitz | ah | Oct 27 21:01 |
| schestowitz | well... good question | Oct 27 21:01 |
| schestowitz | IMHO, Mozilla could make its own meta-search | Oct 27 21:01 |
| schestowitz | and label it approppriately | Oct 27 21:02 |
| schestowitz | But it would not get the Google kickbacks | Oct 27 21:02 |
| MinceR | browser-side metasearch? | Oct 27 21:02 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, Mozilla depended on that money heavily | Oct 27 21:02 |
| MinceR | i think so too | Oct 27 21:02 |
| schestowitz | Google gave them a wad of cash around the very same Chrome was announced | Oct 27 21:02 |
| schestowitz | as a way of perhaps saying, " we make our own browser, but worry not, we won't leave you to rot" | Oct 27 21:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: IIRC: | Oct 27 21:03 |
| schestowitz | From that time | Oct 27 21:03 |
| schestowitz | The Lizard wrangler tingie.. | Oct 27 21:03 |
| schestowitz | She said they did not depend on Google | Oct 27 21:03 |
| schestowitz | And emphasised this | Oct 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 27 21:03 |
| schestowitz | But the statement is public | Oct 27 21:03 |
| schestowitz | They are a foundation or some kind | Oct 27 21:03 |
| MinceR | what do they depend on, then? | Oct 27 21:03 |
| schestowitz | So they showed like IIRC... 70% of their revenue coming from Google | Oct 27 21:03 |
| schestowitz | And I didn't hear much about Google paying them since | Oct 27 21:03 |
| schestowitz | And many high--prized mozilla employees left | Oct 27 21:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the search thing | Oct 27 21:04 |
| schestowitz | That by default it links to Google, in the address bar too | Oct 27 21:04 |
| schestowitz | They got millions this way | Oct 27 21:04 |
| schestowitz | One million a yera can pay 20 people's wages | Oct 27 21:04 |
| schestowitz | I think Mozilla is less than 100 people | Oct 27 21:04 |
| schestowitz | And IIRC from office footage I saw the core team is a few dozens | Oct 27 21:05 |
| schestowitz | I think their turnogver/income was somewhere around $5 | Oct 27 21:05 |
| schestowitz | ml | Oct 27 21:05 |
| schestowitz | > Hi COLA contributor, | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | > I don't know whether you remember but I | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | > annouced a little competiton about a month ago. Best three | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | > contributors get free Entropy Key. I have no connection to | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | > manufacturer. Just wanted to test whether this kind of activity | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | > changes the quality of posts. | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Hi, | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | I got the key and like it very much. I wrote about it in http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/10/27/entropy-key/ | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | ^^ | Oct 27 21:13 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Entropy Key .::. Size~: 34.52 KB | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Nice gguy | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Linux advocate | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Trying to help the caUse :-) | Oct 27 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Real proponents of GNU/Linux oughtn't help Microsoft's recommended version of GNU/Linux, which is also taxed by Microsoft. There are many projects more worthy of volunteer effort. These projects are not coordiated by people's on Microsoft payroll, either (indirectly). | Oct 27 21:54 |
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