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schestowitzA Brand DiesOct 06 01:10
schestowitz"Oct 06 01:10
schestowitzApple's Jobs was not an "evil" person. There were far worse people out there. Some people here mistook my provocation of the troll (deliberate) with disregard for life.Oct 06 01:10
schestowitzIf Apple cares for ethics, it will undo the direction it took. Based on a 2009 war of words with Palm, it was Cook (Apple's current CEO) who came up with the idea of patent aggression, but it's hard to tell for sure.Oct 06 01:10
schestowitzIf Apple competes with Linux without dealing punches under the belt, it will lose. But to be fair to Jobs, he did an OK job until several years ago. Rather than soften he/his company went M.A.D. It only alienated many potential customs -- ones who will never become Apple cult members.Oct 06 01:10
schestowitz"Oct 06 01:10
qu1j0t3they had no choice -> public company.Oct 06 01:11
schestowitzthat's a god excuseOct 06 01:13
schestowitzI don't really accept that, unlless you're parrtlycynical thereOct 06 01:13
schestowitz*good excuseOct 06 01:13
schestowitzremember the "order from above" excuseOct 06 01:13
qu1j0t3you should really accept it.Oct 06 01:13
schestowitzYou don't live your brain in a jar when you go to warOct 06 01:13
schestowitzWhre would we get Assange and Mannings from?Oct 06 01:13
qu1j0t3schestowitz: no, really. a public company is, by definition, insane.Oct 06 01:13
schestowitzhe could qqit itOct 06 01:14
qu1j0t3schestowitz: they have to pursue profit at all costsOct 06 01:14
schestowitzand become activist for reformOct 06 01:14
schestowitzgreengdp and the likeOct 06 01:14
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yes, he could. but i'm not discussing jobs.Oct 06 01:14
schestowitzthere are good causes out thereOct 06 01:14
qu1j0t3i'm talking abotu the company.Oct 06 01:14
qu1j0t3i fault all these CEOsOct 06 01:14
schestowitzoh, that..Oct 06 01:14
qu1j0t3Benioff is a great example.Oct 06 01:14
schestowitzyuckOct 06 01:14
qu1j0t3right.Oct 06 01:14
qu1j0t3i just finihsed his book, "Behind the Cloud"Oct 06 01:15
schestowitzhe's one pompous douche... which makes a good CEOOct 06 01:15
qu1j0t3yes, he's the perfect CEOOct 06 01:15
qu1j0t3you should read that book, know thy enemyOct 06 01:15
schestowitzhe canappeal to other CEOsOct 06 01:15
schestowitzsocipaths are drawn in to like-minded peopleOct 06 01:15
schestowitzThey validate their own ebhaviourOct 06 01:15
schestowitzit's contagiousOct 06 01:15
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84438669Oct 06 01:17
TechrightsSocial@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-11 23:44:30 UTC - Identi.ca: Spending on US health, not army (new video)  http://ur1.ca/5b7xuOct 06 01:17
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Why America is SCREWED!       - YouTube .::. Size~: 107.72 KBOct 06 01:17
schestowitzKoch Industries Exposed for Bribery, Secret Iran Sales and More http://is.gd/KimVXKOct 06 01:18
TechrightsSocialTitle: Koch Industries Exposed for Bribery, Secret Iran Sales and More | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 55.56 KBOct 06 01:18
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84437457Oct 06 01:18
TechrightsSocial@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-11 21:51:14 UTC - Identi.ca: Cardinal Quest free for 24 hours! http://ur1.ca/5b6y2 #linux #gamesOct 06 01:18
schestowitzlast chanceOct 06 01:18
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Cardinal Quest free for 24 hours! | Gaming On Linux .::. Size~: 28.8 KBOct 06 01:18
MinceRnot an evil person because there are worse people? what a load of fucking bullshitOct 06 07:13
MinceRas if there could be by definition only one evil person in the universeOct 06 07:13
schestowitzSome trolls already harass me over Jobs' deathOct 06 08:38
schestowitzIncluding some stalkers... they have nothing better to doOct 06 08:38
schestowitzFrankly, I intend to just post news as though nothing happened (cause nothing really happened)Oct 06 08:39
MinceRi'm sure it activated the fanboysOct 06 09:09
MinceRnow they try to make everyone worship their cult leader or make them look bad for daring to say bad things about a dead guyOct 06 09:10
MinceRhow pathetic, as alwaysOct 06 09:10
schestowitzI had this thing I wanted to say last nightOct 06 09:36
schestowitzAnd I didn't write it downOct 06 09:36
schestowitzNow I can't possibly remember what it was.. but I guess that was expectedOct 06 09:36
schestowitzMaybe it will come back to me laterOct 06 09:37
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/121863014919061505?iid=am-212786989413178893821421168&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Oct 06 09:43
TechrightsSocial@CajunTechie: @schestowitz You have quite a job in front of you. But thankfully the #Diaspora team is *very* responsive and open to patch submissions.Oct 06 09:43
schestowitzMinceR: dying must be fun, you get praised even if you have been an arsehole (no, that's now what I had in mine)Oct 06 09:56
schestowitzI really ought to have typed down what I was thinking.... afkOct 06 09:56
MinceRindeedOct 06 09:59
schestowitzhe saw iphone4assOct 06 10:07
schestowitzdied laughingOct 06 10:07
schestowitz____/ Anonymous on Thursday 06 Oct 2011 09:41 : \____Oct 06 10:09
schestowitz> Now that Jobs has croaked I believe Apple will quickly fall intoOct 06 10:09
schestowitz> disrepair and continue its death spiral. It's striking how quicklyOct 06 10:09
schestowitz> after his departure the company has foundered. The iPhone 4S was aOct 06 10:09
schestowitz> complete disappointment with none of the showmanship that characterizedOct 06 10:09
schestowitz> Jobs.Oct 06 10:09
schestowitz> Oct 06 10:09
schestowitz> The Apple fanbois will be silent henceforth. Linux will continue itsOct 06 10:09
schestowitz> march towards world dominance...Oct 06 10:09
MinceRi'm afraid they won't be silentOct 06 10:10
schestowitzyou're trying it?Oct 06 10:16
schestowitzoopsOct 06 10:16
schestowitzwrong windowOct 06 10:16
schestowitzMinceR: you should see the reactions to this posterOct 06 10:16
schestowitzNew show from Seth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIJYTSZCMD0&feature=digest_refresh_friOct 06 10:49
TechrightsSocialTitle: Cults: Indoctrination & Exploitation - The Thinking Atheist Radio Podcast #30       - YouTube .::. Size~: 103.82 KBOct 06 10:49
schestowitzI don't see how cults truly differ from religions, they just have rarer ritualsOct 06 10:49
schestowitzThe story os Seth too is intrestingOct 06 10:59
schestowitzGrewup a mormon to preachersOct 06 10:59
schestowitzSnd then  turned from religious radio to atheisticOct 06 10:59
schestowitzMaybe he saw a crowd/audience in itOct 06 11:00
schestowitzAnd another avenue to speak out about the crock he had been promoting beforeOct 06 11:00
schestowitzSome Microdoft boosters that turn to Apple fans are a little like thiOct 06 11:00
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schestowitztomorrow afternoon seems good for a pint :-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/9Oct 06 17:59
TechrightsSocialTitle: BBC Weather | Manchester .::. Size~: 65.71 KBOct 06 17:59
MinceRa pint of rainwater?Oct 06 18:16
MinceR:>Oct 06 18:16
schestowitzwould need a funnel for thatOct 06 18:22
schestowitzit's stormy outside right nowOct 06 18:22
schestowitzsince I do my jobs from home I typically plan the right hours to be outsideOct 06 18:22
schestowitztechrighs is not a job obviously, but I have customers for technical things and I also work for a university and for a company in London areaOct 06 18:23
schestowitzsometimes I need to travel a bit, but SSH mostly makes that a thing of the pastOct 06 18:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/trmanco/status/121695756561301504Oct 06 18:59
TechrightsSocial@trmanco: @schestowitz Do you have a Google account? If yes, then that's why :)Oct 06 18:59
schestowitzGoogle is profiling usersOct 06 18:59
schestowitznot newsOct 06 18:59
schestowitzbut...Oct 06 18:59
schestowitzstill, people underestimate the impact on their freedokmOct 06 18:59
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MinceRschestowitz: nice show (Thinking Atheist #30)Oct 06 20:08
schestowitzMinceR: they're all quite goodOct 06 20:10
schestowitzif you can spare time listening to themOct 06 20:10
schestowitzObama issues a press release about JobsOct 06 20:16
schestowitzShows who runs the countryOct 06 20:16
schestowitzI think it's pathetic TBHOct 06 20:16
MinceRindeedOct 06 20:16
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schestowitz"Oct 06 20:21
schestowitz> What's a tactful way to say that Ubuntu should deal with the monoOct 06 20:21
schestowitz> boosters?  Do you have a phrase handy?  How can Canonical improve theOct 06 20:21
schestowitz> community?Oct 06 20:21
schestowitzOver the years we saw Microsoft embracing things to extinguish them. Among them: open source and "cloud". For Ubuntu communities to defend themselves from getting diluted to the point of just being another Microsoft sandbox it will have to develop a defensive and reactionary resistance to who it lets in. Sites like Techrights are already heckled by several Microsoft-affiliated people masquerading as "Ubuntu" members. This is Oct 06 20:21
schestowitzkilling Ubuntu's identity.Oct 06 20:21
schestowitz"Oct 06 20:21
schestowitz> Sorry. The context is that I'm answering a survey from Canonical.Oct 06 20:21
schestowitzwthOct 06 20:28
schestowitzI can't even read activist blogs without some noiseOct 06 20:28
schestowitzlike this http://www.goldmansachs666.com/2011/10/steve-jobs-may-never-be-equaled.htmlOct 06 20:28
TechrightsSocialTitle: Goldman Sachs Information, Comments, Opinions and Facts: Steve Jobs "may never be equaled" .::. Size~: 214.16 KBOct 06 20:28
schestowitzoff topicOct 06 20:28
schestowitzMinceR: http://libreoffice.hu/2011/10/05/lively-alphabet-%E2%80%93-coloring-book-and-dtp-example/Oct 06 21:13
TechrightsSocialTitle: LibreOffice.hu –   Lively Alphabet – coloring book and DTP example .::. Size~: 31.28 KBOct 06 21:13
schestowitzhttp://libreoffice.hu/2011/10/05/new-fonts-unique-features/Oct 06 21:13
schestowitznew site?Oct 06 21:13
TechrightsSocialTitle: LibreOffice.hu –   New fonts, unique features for LibreOffice DTP .::. Size~: 32.78 KBOct 06 21:13
schestowitz.huOct 06 21:13
MinceRdunnoOct 06 21:13
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84453687Oct 06 21:17
TechrightsSocial@satipera (satipera)'s status on Thursday, 06-Oct-11 19:40:51 UTC - Identi.ca: If the law ceases to fuck the common good at the expense of elites, something will have to be done about it & it will #democracy.Oct 06 21:17
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schestowitz"I mourn and grieve deeply for scientists who died prematurely due to poor health (and with no money for doctors) after Edison-type folks had ripped them off. There are many injustices in the world and one of them is the lack of appreciation for good people who choose to produce rather than gain patents and glory. One such person recently died. He had founded the amazing project that put heaps of literature in the public Oct 06 21:55
schestowitzdomain. No profit motive. He too died quite obscure and didn't have the US president issue a press release for him. This revolutionary won't be televised... by CNN, or CBS, etc. He was not an honourable super-capitalist."Oct 06 21:55
schestowitz-meOct 06 21:55
schestowitzin disaporaOct 06 21:56
schestowitz*disapora evenOct 06 21:56
schestowitzLinux Journal: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/steve-jobs-passes-away-age-56?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+linuxjournalcom+%28Linux+Journal+-+The+Original+Magazine+of+the+Linux+Community%29Oct 06 22:35
TechrightsSocialTitle: Steve Jobs Passes Away at age 56 | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 56.25 KBOct 06 22:35
schestowitzand a religious euphemism tooOct 06 22:36
schestowitz"yeah, that would be nice but a bit idealistic (which I try to be) but life keep showing you that the majority don't have the same view. Which means each person gets the choice about who they value and why. Dont depend on the media for that. "Oct 06 22:40
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/577738Oct 06 22:40
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 06 22:40
schestowitzMichael m Jackson had that done for him tooOct 06 22:40
schestowitzGates... LLOLOct 06 22:40
schestowitzWhat a satanic PR whoreOct 06 22:40
schestowitzWatch the top rightOct 06 23:15
schestowitzJobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Oct 06 23:15
schestowitzhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-love/steve-jobs-dead_b_997714.htmlOct 06 23:15
TechrightsSocialTitle: James Love: Steve Jobs: Great Insights for Software and Hardware. What Was the End Game? .::. Size~: 186.21 KBOct 06 23:16
schestowitzall the papers sorts of treat it like a holiday for a dayOct 06 23:16

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