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schestowitz[20:21] <sweetandy> Well, people worship Jobs... it's rare for somebody to worship Stallman :POct 10 00:16
schestowitz[20:21] <rm> they haven't appovred any of those afaikOct 10 00:16
schestowitz[20:21] <sweetandy> I don't understand why people feel they need to defend Jobs as if it were they themselvesOct 10 00:16
schestowitz[20:21] <leo_rockway> I think that saying anything different would've been hypocritical of rms.Oct 10 00:16
schestowitz[20:22] <sweetandy> rms will fight for software freedom regardless of the circumstances, I'm convincedOct 10 00:16
schestowitz[20:22] <sweetandy> Nothing wrong with consistencyOct 10 00:16
schestowitz[20:22] <leo_rockway> he didn't say he's glad that SJ died, just that he's glad that his days of creating iJails are over.Oct 10 00:16
schestowitz[20:22] <sweetandy> Sorry if this has been rehashed a zillion times in this channel :POct 10 00:16
schestowitz> It's not much of a secret any more:Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> [quote]Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> Gateway also faulted another provision of the new licensing agreement,Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> which requires PC makers to pay a Windows royalty on every PC shipped,Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> even if it didn't include Windows. To top it off, to qualify for marketOct 10 01:56
schestowitz> development funds, PC makers have to put a Microsoft OS on every PC. AsOct 10 01:56
schestowitz> a result, trying to sell non-Windows PCs, or even PCs without software,Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> is a financial loser for computer makers.Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> [/quote]Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> http://news.cnet.com/Gateway-exec-Microsoft-too-powerful/2100-1016_3-868413.htmlOct 10 01:56
TechrightsSocialTitle: Gateway exec: Microsoft too powerful - CNET News .::. Size~: 67.84 KBOct 10 01:56
schestowitz> Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> And more recently:Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> [quote]Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> Yes, UEFI 'secure boot' could lock out Linux from Windows 8 PCsOct 10 01:56
schestowitz> Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> Summary: Microsoft’s demand that ’secure boot’ is enabled on Windows 8Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> PCs means that you might not be able to install Linux.Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> An interesting story doing the rounds that, at first glance, looks likeOct 10 01:56
schestowitz> FUD, but it’s not. Microsoft could indeed use the fact that WindowsOct 10 01:56
schestowitz> 8-compliant PCs must replace the BIOS with the more modern UEFI, andOct 10 01:56
schestowitz> this could be used to lock Linux (and even previous versions of Windows)Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> out from new PCs.Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz> Oct 10 01:56
schestowitz>     Note: This also applies equally to tablets running Windows 8 as wellOct 10 01:56
schestowitz> as PCs.Oct 10 01:57
schestowitz> [/quote]Oct 10 01:57
schestowitz> Oct 10 01:57
schestowitz> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/yes-uefi-secure-boot-could-lock-out-linux-from-windows-8-pcs/14897Oct 10 01:57
TechrightsSocialTitle: Yes, UEFI 'secure boot' could lock out Linux from Windows 8 PCs | ZDNet .::. Size~: 139.71 KBOct 10 01:57
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/conformingrrr/statuses/123209967405760512Oct 10 09:09
TechrightsSocial@conformingrrr: It's not a good source at all, but you might be able to glean some leads from techrights.org http://t.co/S1L7OPAs </grain of salt>Oct 10 09:09
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schestowitzUnfortunately, one of her most counted-on apps will not run in Wine or Crossover.  Efficient PIM is a great little all-around calendaring app with a ton of features.  She has now upgraded to the full version just so she has a license, should she ever have to reinstall.  I had a legit license for WinXP SP3 and I installed it via VirtualBox on her Linux side.Oct 10 14:45
schestowitzFrom what I understand, she is now working more than half the time in Linux.  Microsoft is in the position to abuse their customer base this way because people think they have to endure it to access their computer.Oct 10 14:45
schestowitzI am glad to report there is one less of them today.Oct 10 14:45
schestowitzhttp://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2011/10/small-victories-ill-take-em.htmlOct 10 14:45
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Blog of Helios: Small Victories?  I'll Take 'Em... .::. Size~: 75.58 KBOct 10 14:45
schestowitz:-)Oct 10 14:45
schestowitz> Emily and Rachelle were good friends. Is that still the case?Oct 10 14:45
schestowitz> Oct 10 14:45
schestowitz> Is Truffle still around?Oct 10 14:45
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schestowitz> Rachelle is 17 and Emily is almost 12; as you can guess the age differenceOct 10 14:45
schestowitz> sets them a bit apart and so does the distance between their homes.Oct 10 14:45
schestowitz> Oct 10 14:45
schestowitz> Truffle is a lucky dog! She has diabetes and I guess is about 11-years-old,Oct 10 14:45
schestowitz> but she is a survivor and even has her very own doctor in the person of myOct 10 14:45
schestowitz> son Andrew who injects her with insulin daily. She can't walk up stairs orOct 10 14:45
schestowitz> jump up on a couch and she is not real frisky but her coat of hair looksOct 10 14:45
schestowitz> shiny and overall she looks good for her age. Oct 10 14:45
schestowitz> Oct 10 14:45
schestowitz> I am in about the same condition as Truffle. Hahaha!Oct 10 14:45
schestowitzI recently learned that there is an alleged leak in Wikileaks which shows Steve Jobs as HIV positive. While I don't think the evidence is necessarily authentic or that the issue is really important, it does shed light on the absence of privaOct 10 14:45
schestowitzc these days. Oct 10 14:45
schestowitzqu1j0t3: do you know if that leak is real/fake?Oct 10 14:45
schestowitzbeen having some discussions about it. The medical profession would seem dodgy if such a thing really leakedOct 10 14:46
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: it seems utterly implausible. it's some idiot looking at the tmz pic of him dying of cancer and thinking it looks like advanced aids (whcih of course it does)Oct 10 15:18
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the existence of the tmz pic (which i have not looked at, obviously) does say something about the loss of privacyOct 10 15:18
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: yes, exactlyOct 10 16:30
schestowitzrecently in the UK many medical records leakedOct 10 16:31
schestowitzGPs used IE6 here last time I checkedOct 10 16:31
schestowitzthat was ages ago, maybe 2008Oct 10 16:31
schestowitzBut still...Oct 10 16:31
qu1j0t3hmOct 10 17:17
qu1j0t3still using IE.Oct 10 17:17
qu1j0t3Windows infests government...Oct 10 17:17
schestowitzyupOct 10 17:18
schestowitzusing corruption tooOct 10 17:18
schestowitzhttp://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/10/11059/occupy-movement-comes-madison-wisconsinOct 10 17:20
TechrightsSocialTitle: "Occupy" Movement Comes to Madison, Wisconsin | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 44.9 KBOct 10 17:20
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Oct 10 19:37
schestowitz> Oct 10 19:37
schestowitz> On IRC we were looking at Dell's website where it is possible only toOct 10 19:37
schestowitz> choose from 3 types of MS Windows, no Ubuntu.  That's even if I go toOct 10 19:37
schestowitz> www.dell.com/ubuntu  Is there any truth to the rumor that you can buyOct 10 19:37
schestowitz> a desktop or laptop with Ubuntu?  If so, is that something that JonoOct 10 19:37
schestowitz> can straighten out?  He logged off before I could ask him.Oct 10 19:37
schestowitz> Oct 10 19:37
schestowitz> PSOct 10 19:37
schestowitz> The Dell search does not work.  IMHO that is because they areOct 10 19:37
schestowitz> attempting to use IIS in place of a real web server:Oct 10 19:37
schestowitz>  http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://configure.us.dell.comOct 10 19:37
schestowitzI comes we have evidence that microsoft pressures partners like Intel to drop Linux servers and pick asp for bragging rights.Oct 10 19:37
TechrightsSocialTitle: Site report for configure.us.dell.com .::. Size~: 10.31 KBOct 10 19:37
qu1j0t3yes, business as usualOct 10 19:38
qu1j0t3there is a section in Benioff's book where he says that the #1 customer request to Dell was to offer linux pre-installedOct 10 19:38
qu1j0t3he's close friends with Michael Dell and the rest of the scumOct 10 19:38
qu1j0t3so, what happened thar?Oct 10 19:38
qu1j0t3customers lost interest? doubt that.Oct 10 19:38
schestowitz> Which exhibits?Oct 10 19:42
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/01/12/bill-gates-jihad-vs-linux/Oct 10 19:42
schestowitz"I also have a personal ask that if we do the 64bit work that we get INTEL.COM to be a 64bit ASP.NET sites."Oct 10 19:42
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bill Gates: “Where Are We on This Jihad?” (Against Linux at Intel) | Techrights .::. Size~: 132.38 KBOct 10 19:42
schestowitzqu1j0t3: they didn't promote itOct 10 19:43
qu1j0t3and it's sort of dead isn't it.Oct 10 19:43
qu1j0t3as an option.Oct 10 19:43
qu1j0t3surprising nobodyOct 10 19:43
schestowitzwell, android keeps gainingOct 10 19:55
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=ks&q=ssh+then+runOct 10 20:16
TechrightsSocialTitle: ssh then run - Google Search .::. Size~: 102.27 KBOct 10 20:16
schestowitzis there any way to run a command after ssh connection like one can do with many programming languages and even mysql?Oct 10 20:17
schestowitzlike ssh, the ls for instance?Oct 10 20:17
schestowitzI could edit the bashrc on the remote machine, but not a suitable solutionOct 10 20:17

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