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| TechrightsSocial | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Oct-11 10:38:57 UTC - Identi.ca: Eric S Raymond Defends Richard M Stallman Over #SteveJobs http://ur1.ca/5d7p7 !fsf !gnu | Oct 11 11:47 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84530913 | Oct 11 11:47 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Oct-11 10:45:01 UTC - Identi.ca: FOSS Force Defends Richard Stallman's Remarks on Steve Jobs http://ur1.ca/5d7jp !fsf !gnu | Oct 11 11:47 |
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| schestowitz | The Mac users who use GOSS are angry at RMS | Oct 11 11:47 |
| schestowitz | But it's expected | Oct 11 11:47 |
| schestowitz | They have a lot of respect for Jobs | Oct 11 11:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weRvsGMYEns&feature=digest_refresh_sat | Oct 11 11:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhKiN2PBI6E&feature=digest_refresh_sat How to inject Steve Jobs PR into coverage of the economic crisis (a few minutes in) | Oct 11 12:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Naomi Klein "I Think The President Doesn't Understand People Don't Want Empathy They Want Action!" - YouTube .::. Size~: 92.08 KB | Oct 11 12:04 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I've just come back having spoken to another company head who is apparently interested in us building his next big project, which is a store needing some Web development. He hadn't signed or shaken my hand on it yet, but it seems like yet another potential client (a big one) on the way, motivating a quicker pace forward. | Oct 11 15:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: client for whom? i'm a bit confused... | Oct 11 15:31 |
| schestowitz | a company that imports from the East to the UK | Oct 11 15:32 |
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| schestowitz | The point, for me anyway, is that even though you wouldnt mind handing everything you do in teh interwebs to some corporate interest to do what they please with it, I cant see any reason why such corporate spying should be allowed or legal in anyway. I think of my data going in and out as snail-mail. Nobody shouldnt have right to seize and "read" it, just like the postman Pat has no right to read through my post. I find it | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | hard to believe that in few decades weve forgotten that nobody has the right to read our letters or that in just few years people have started to use their real names instead of nicks. This was unthinkable few years back. | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | To your argument on ISPs, Ive no proof they arent doing this right now. Other than their word and theres nothing I can do. I usually use vpn and thats risky as well but what is one to do? In fact, would it be far fetched if Id start accusing people like you for this sticky situation? People became so relaxed with their privacy and now we find ourselves in this post patriot act time where you have no choice but to reveal your | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | data flow to everyone? | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | written in bus with n900, sorry for the typos. | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/598652 | Oct 11 15:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | Well said | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | The point, for me anyway, is that even though you wouldnt mind handing everything you do in teh interwebs to some corporate interest to do what they please with it, I cant see any reason why such corporate spying should be allowed or legal in anyway. I think of my data going in and out as snail-mail. Nobody shouldnt have right to seize and "read" it, just like the postman Pat has no right to read through my post. I find it | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | hard to believe that in few decades weve forgotten that nobody has the right to read our letters or that in just few years people have started to use their real names instead of nicks. This was unthinkable few years back. | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | To your argument on ISPs, Ive no proof they arent doing this right now. Other than their word and theres nothing I can do. I usually use vpn and thats risky as well but what is one to do? In fact, would it be far fetched if Id start accusing people like you for this sticky situation? People became so relaxed with their privacy and now we find ourselves in this post patriot act time where you have no choice but to reveal your | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | data flow to everyone? | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | written in bus with n900, sorry for the typos. | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | oops | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | double pasted | Oct 11 15:34 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84533276 | Oct 11 15:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Joel Adamson (trashbird1240)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Oct-11 13:29:37 UTC - Identi.ca: "his piss probably smells like urine" That is priceless! Btw @rms is not a jerk, but an easy target | Oct 11 15:35 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84533333 | Oct 11 15:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Joel Adamson (trashbird1240)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Oct-11 13:32:54 UTC - Identi.ca: I just read @rms's actual words http://bit.ly/qrBRon He said "I'm not glad he's dead." I felt similarly when my wife told me the news | Oct 11 15:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: 2011: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 840.6 KB | Oct 11 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Yes, basically some pro-Mac circles claimed that @rms had said the very opposite | Oct 11 15:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | why does it matter anyway? | Oct 11 15:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | i don't really care about person A's opinion of person B | Oct 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | yeah. | Oct 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | but... | Oct 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | That's 'news' these days | Oct 11 15:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | and particularly not when it's being waved around to prove point X | Oct 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | where names are like brands | Oct 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates says.. | Oct 11 15:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | for example, the last person i want to hear from is Billg | Oct 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Oct 11 15:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | anything he says is purely for brand building purposes | Oct 11 15:38 |
| schestowitz | the expert in everything | Oct 11 15:38 |
| schestowitz | he never fisniehd college | Oct 11 15:38 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84530606 | Oct 11 15:38 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Sergio Tridente (tioduke)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Oct-11 10:14:35 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @schestowitz: Eric Raymond: On Steve Jobs’s passing http://ur1.ca/5c8er | Oct 11 15:38 |
| schestowitz | Two celebs in one headline | Oct 11 15:38 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Armed and Dangerous » Blog Archive » On Steve Jobs’s passing .::. Size~: 219.43 KB | Oct 11 15:38 |
| schestowitz | omg, celebwar | Oct 11 15:39 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I agree with what you said | Oct 11 15:39 |
| schestowitz | Which is what I tried to get across in techrights | Oct 11 15:39 |
| schestowitz | the "Bill Gates" rband is build with $1m/day PR campaign | Oct 11 15:39 |
| schestowitz | aside from all the investment | Oct 11 15:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | like toothpaste | Oct 11 15:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | or sugar water | Oct 11 15:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | and about as much use | Oct 11 15:40 |
| schestowitz | Then they use him to charitywash oil, drug patents, etc. | Oct 11 15:40 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: fluoride pastes? | Oct 11 15:40 |
| schestowitz | !google clgate sues india | Oct 11 15:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Colgate sues Glaxo over toothpaste nurdle | Reuters | http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/07/29/us-colgate-glaxo-nurdle-idUSTRE66S41B20100729 | Oct 11 15:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Church & Dwight Sues Colgate Over Toothbrush Packaging - WSJ ... | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704615504576172360509745644.html | Oct 11 15:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Sanofi, Facebook, Colgate: Intellectual Property - Bloomberg | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-20/sanofi-facebook-colgate-vivendi-apple-hokie-intellectual-property.html | Oct 11 15:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Translations that are Marketing Mistakes | http://www.i18nguy.com/translations.html | Oct 11 15:40 |
| schestowitz | !google clgate sues crecipe | Oct 11 15:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Translations that are Marketing Mistakes | http://www.i18nguy.com/translations.html | Oct 11 15:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Colgate Palmolive Accused of Patenting Ancient Indian Recipe For ... | http://jonathanturley.org/2010/10/24/colgate-palmolive-accused-of-patenting-ancient-india-recipe-for-toothpaste/ | Oct 11 15:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Colgate-Palmolive Company -- Company History | http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/ColgatePalmolive-company-company-History.html | Oct 11 15:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Murphy Oil Soap - Colgate | http://www.colgate.com/MurphyOilSoap/products/original-formula | Oct 11 15:40 |
| schestowitz | amazing! | Oct 11 15:40 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/84515783 | Oct 11 15:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Marvin Gómez (elbek)'s status on Monday, 10-Oct-11 15:05:51 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz: Richard Stallman nos dice la razón para tomar las calles el 15 de Octubre http://is.gd/UqTJMO #my15oct | Oct 11 15:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Richard Stallman tell us the reason for taking to the streets on October 15th. #my15oct - YouTube .::. Size~: 93.21 KB | Oct 11 15:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/123236024712306689 | Oct 11 15:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | @jmcest: RT @schestowitz: ♻ @wikileaks: Video of journalists & politicians calling for the assassination of Julian Assange http://t.co/pmtd26pT | Oct 11 15:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Oct 11 15:41 |
| schestowitz | But remember | Oct 11 15:41 |
| schestowitz | Assange is a villian | Oct 11 15:41 |
| schestowitz | He fights power | Oct 11 15:41 |
| schestowitz | He's not power | Oct 11 15:41 |
| schestowitz | so he's the "bad guy" | Oct 11 15:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EnigmaticDev/status/123623169457274881 | Oct 11 15:42 |
| TechrightsSocial | @EnigmaticDev: RT @schestowitz Proprietary s/w is good for some *companies*.More profits, more control over the state.But it's not good for actual *people* | Oct 11 15:42 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Applebaum pwned by Google? Not based on what I've seen (I have am handful of web browsers installed) | Oct 11 15:43 |
| schestowitz | All this harvesting of data and then... https://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/123690142824271872 | Oct 11 15:43 |
| TechrightsSocial | @CajunTechie: NOT shocked! RT @schestowitz: #Google hands over WikiLeaks data to US government without search warrant http://t.co/71XayMiw do know evil? | Oct 11 15:44 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Oct 11 15:44 |
| schestowitz | in identica I can at least trust evan | Oct 11 15:44 |
| schestowitz | He's in canada | Oct 11 15:44 |
| schestowitz | But he's afraid from law enforcers, he sort of suggested to me | Oct 11 15:44 |
| schestowitz | twitter gave the details of wikileaks activists | Oct 11 15:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ArmAnon/status/123692864134852608 | Oct 11 15:44 |
| TechrightsSocial | @ArmAnon: @CajunTechie @schestowitz no warrant, but court order. Its a simple case of CYA | Oct 11 15:44 |
| schestowitz | Quora has pushed this to everyone by Email today: http://www.quora.com/Steve-Jobs/What-are-some-great-stories-about-Steve-Jobs#ans748151 | Oct 11 15:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Steve Jobs: What are some great stories about Steve Jobs? - Quora .::. Size~: 688.41 KB | Oct 11 15:46 |
| schestowitz | Using the Jobs brand to promote quora | Oct 11 15:46 |
| schestowitz | Steve Jobs in the subject line | Oct 11 15:46 |
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| MinceR | SteveJobs(r) | Oct 11 15:54 |
| schestowitz | More like Apple (with picture) | Oct 11 16:01 |
| schestowitz | They don't market it with the name much | Oct 11 16:02 |
| schestowitz | just the logo and steve's face | Oct 11 16:02 |
| schestowitz | in the post-cacner days, with turtleneck sweaters | Oct 11 16:02 |
| schestowitz | he keeps the same outfit | Oct 11 16:02 |
| schestowitz | for uniform branding | Oct 11 16:02 |
| schestowitz | symbolic | Oct 11 16:02 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 11 16:02 |
| schestowitz | true | Oct 11 16:02 |
| schestowitz | same for the "mac" guy | Oct 11 16:02 |
| schestowitz | from mac vs pc | Oct 11 16:03 |
| MinceR | crApple could adopt jobs in a turtleneck as the official logo :> | Oct 11 16:03 |
| schestowitz | keeping the imagery and associations in one's brain | Oct 11 16:03 |
| schestowitz | BillG uses sweater | Oct 11 16:03 |
| schestowitz | which is why I often call him "the guy in the weater" | Oct 11 16:03 |
| schestowitz | *sweater | Oct 11 16:03 |
| schestowitz | or bully/rich man in a sweater | Oct 11 16:03 |
| schestowitz | it's part of the image the PR experts built for him decades ago | Oct 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Read the Book Brabrians Led by Bill Gates | Oct 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | It was written by the daughter of the head of W-E, MS' longtime PR Department (official) | Oct 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | They also trained him in how to behave and speak | Oct 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3 would know that | Oct 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Gates, for example, is not allowed to bring up ceratain subjects | Oct 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Politicians are trained similarly | Oct 11 16:05 |
| schestowitz | And they have known tricks for dodging questions about it, assuming they cannot use their agents to do pre-screening of interview questions | Oct 11 16:05 |
| schestowitz | Gates walked out on a TV interview in the 90s or 80s | Oct 11 16:05 |
| schestowitz | Cause they asked a hard question | Oct 11 16:05 |
| schestowitz | About his illegal tactics | Oct 11 16:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Oct 11 16:06 |
| MinceR | the court should ask him such questions | Oct 11 16:07 |
| MinceR | and he should be shackled | Oct 11 16:07 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: In general, if you know of someone who needs computer help with something very technical that you don't have time to do, refer him/her them to us. We're all well qualified... CS degrees and all :-) | Oct 11 16:19 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: LOL | Oct 11 16:19 |
| schestowitz | shackled? | Oct 11 16:20 |
| MinceR | so he can't "walk out" | Oct 11 16:20 |
| schestowitz | That's like asking Obama to punish Wall Street bankers | Oct 11 16:20 |
| schestowitz | or asking pigs to fly | Oct 11 16:20 |
| schestowitz | same thing | Oct 11 16:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah that's accountability | Oct 11 16:20 |
| schestowitz | heh | Oct 11 16:20 |
| schestowitz | did you see Obama's remark about the occupation? | Oct 11 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Not Israel's | Oct 11 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Wall Street | Oct 11 16:21 |
| schestowitz | He admits it exists | Oct 11 16:21 |
| schestowitz | but didn't say he'd do anything | Oct 11 16:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | right | Oct 11 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Which is bettet than nothing | Oct 11 16:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's a calculation | Oct 11 16:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | for him | Oct 11 16:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | his bran | Oct 11 16:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | d | Oct 11 16:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhKiN2PBI6E&feature=digest_refresh_sat | Oct 11 16:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Naomi Klein "I Think The President Doesn't Understand People Don't Want Empathy They Want Action!" - YouTube .::. Size~: 92.93 KB | Oct 11 16:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | damn right he doesn't | Oct 11 16:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's paid not to understand that | Oct 11 16:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | if he believed in action he wouldn't be president | Oct 11 16:22 |
| schestowitz | goldman pays hima lot | Oct 11 16:22 |
| schestowitz | and is among his staff | Oct 11 16:22 |
| schestowitz | the same people who created the bubble | Oct 11 16:22 |
| schestowitz | he speaks of them as "them" | Oct 11 16:22 |
| schestowitz | but it's "us" | Oct 11 16:22 |
| schestowitz | to obama | Oct 11 16:22 |
| schestowitz | it's his circle of people | Oct 11 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Rubin... | Oct 11 16:22 |
| schestowitz | For example | Oct 11 16:22 |
| schestowitz | [16:22] <qu1j0t3> if he believed in action he wouldn't be president | Oct 11 16:22 |
| schestowitz | Not for long anyway | Oct 11 16:23 |
| schestowitz | !google keneddy secret societies | Oct 11 16:23 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - President John F Kennedy Secret Society Speech version 2 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DxhZk8ronces | Oct 11 16:23 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - John F. Kennedy - Wikiquote | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy | Oct 11 16:23 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Selected ... - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum | http://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/Ready-Reference/JFK-Speeches.aspx | Oct 11 16:23 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Kennedy Speech, April 27, 1961 - Internet Archive | http://www.archive.org/details/jfks19610427 | Oct 11 16:23 |
| schestowitz | typos ojn kennedy | Oct 11 16:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | quite | Oct 11 16:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | also there was some criticism recently of all his financial advisers | Oct 11 16:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | particularly Summers | Oct 11 16:29 |
| *qu1j0t3 wonders where he read that | Oct 11 16:29 | |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://news.techeye.net/internet/david-cameron-encourages-web-censorship# | Oct 11 16:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Bad Request .::. Size~: 0.32 KB | Oct 11 16:33 |
| schestowitz | this just in | Oct 11 16:33 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://news.techeye.net/internet/david-cameron-encourages-web-censorship | Oct 11 16:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: David Cameron encourages web censorship - Signs deal with four big ISPs | TechEye .::. Size~: 19.84 KB | Oct 11 16:33 |
| schestowitz | not to worry | Oct 11 16:33 |
| schestowitz | just a routine thing :-) | Oct 11 16:33 |
| schestowitz | crushing society with pen and paper | Oct 11 16:33 |
| schestowitz | next: HAARPer | Oct 11 16:33 |
| schestowitz | Conservativs | Oct 11 16:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | you should see the PR campaign of offensive lies about tar sands | Oct 11 16:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's incredible, the chutzpah | Oct 11 16:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/600517 | Oct 11 16:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Oct 11 16:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | Harper should be jailed along with everyone who is part of it | Oct 11 16:34 |
| schestowitz | that's what they need eavesdroppign for | Oct 11 16:35 |
| schestowitz | RIM (Canada) agreed to help the UK crack down on protest organisers | Oct 11 16:35 |
| schestowitz | Now it'sa.a crimre to organise protests | Oct 11 16:35 |
| schestowitz | !google water gun fight uk | Oct 11 16:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Flash mobs or splash mob? UK man arrested for planning water ... | http://www.csmonitor.com/World/2011/0815/Flash-mobs-or-splash-mob-UK-man-arrested-for-planning-water-pistol-fight | Oct 11 16:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - UK Man Arrested for Coordinating Water Gun Fight over Facebook | http://www.tmcnet.com/topics/articles/208533-uk-man-arrested-coordinating-water-gun-fight-over.htm | Oct 11 16:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Englishman Arrested for Planning Water Gun Fight on Facebook ... | http://mashable.com/2011/08/15/water-gun-bbm/ | Oct 11 16:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Thailand breaks world record for water pistol fight - Telegraph.co.uk | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/8448745/Thailand-breaks-world-record-for-water-pistol-fight.html | Oct 11 16:35 |
| MinceR | looks like the bot doesn't handle fragments properly | Oct 11 16:35 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: true, not a big deal | Oct 11 16:35 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3 did an excellent job coding it up | Oct 11 16:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | fragments? | Oct 11 16:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | can you explain? i can fix the bot | Oct 11 16:39 |
| MinceR | the part of the URL from the # | Oct 11 16:41 |
| MinceR | it seems it's sent to the web server as part of the location | Oct 11 16:41 |
| MinceR | iirc it's supposed to be handled on the client side (though in this case that means simply dropping it) | Oct 11 16:41 |
| schestowitz | hash for <a id | Oct 11 16:48 |
| schestowitz | identican is being lame | Oct 11 16:52 |
| schestowitz | it ticks me up for "trueSend me notices of new subscriptions through e-mail." | Oct 11 16:52 |
| schestowitz | Which is dine | Oct 11 16:52 |
| schestowitz | But... | Oct 11 16:52 |
| schestowitz | then it sends me mail every time someone joins a GROUP I'm part of | Oct 11 16:52 |
| schestowitz | No way to disable that | Oct 11 16:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: yes, but how is the bot getting this wrong? | Oct 11 16:53 |
| MinceR | 173635 < schestowitz> qu1j0t3: http://news.techeye.net/internet/david-cameron-encourages-web-censorship# | Oct 11 16:53 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Bad Request .::. Size~: 0.32 KB | Oct 11 16:53 |
| MinceR | 173637 < TechrightsSocial> Title: Bad Request .::. Size~: 0.32 KB | Oct 11 16:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm interesting. o | Oct 11 16:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | ok | Oct 11 16:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah i don't think it strips that off | Oct 11 16:54 |
| MinceR | seemed like the request might have failed because the server received the # | Oct 11 16:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: make a ticket! :) | Oct 11 16:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 11 16:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | seriously though, bitbucket may support tickets... | Oct 11 16:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | and it's phirce on bitbucket | Oct 11 16:54 |
| schestowitz | [17:21] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Boston police try to break up Occupy Boston, arrest around 100 protesters | WLCentral http://t.co/8pQCDUJH #OWS | Oct 11 17:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Oct 11 17:29 |
| schestowitz | They like to make it seem like they arrest anarchists | Oct 11 17:29 |
| schestowitz | and sometimes will show a person confronting police | Oct 11 17:29 |
| schestowitz | withouitn showing that they peppersprayed his friend | Oct 11 17:29 |
| schestowitz | So that the friend would approach the police and ask, "why did you do that?" | Oct 11 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Luckily they all come equipped with cams now | Oct 11 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Which apralyses the police | Oct 11 17:30 |
| schestowitz | it knows it can blow back | Oct 11 17:30 |
| schestowitz | On the net | Oct 11 17:30 |
| schestowitz | and then peope like officer blair are at risk of being sacked | Oct 11 17:30 |
| schestowitz | with apple's phone they can disable the cam remotely | Oct 11 17:30 |
| schestowitz | basis on geo-data | Oct 11 17:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/598652 | Oct 11 17:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | @: | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | "Where it gets nastier is when it's done in a way that harms the uninformed and makes it harder on the people who do care. " | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | And this is the problem, apathy by the mainstream. Forgetting about browsers for one minute, Facebook users signed away these rights volunarily and even when, you tell a Facebook user about these issues, you are usually met with disinterest or dismissal. | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | "Chromium means that more websites are developed to work well for Chrome and less for more privacy respecting browsers like Firefox / Rekonq. " | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Cant argue with that at all.. Problem comes when the browser wars will be decided by the mainstream masses... try getting a mainstream user to go with Rekonq..... In relation to Firefox, that is seeing a migration of sorts away (rightly or wrongly) If the mainstream prefer Chrome, no amount of telling them about privacy will change their minds. Ive said before, the greatest threat to software freedom and privacy is apathy. | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | "[your] argument overlooks the consequences to others." | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | It probably does, but then if others share my view about their online privacy and find that Chrome is better for them, then by dissuading them from using Chrome you are doing them a disservice. Software choice on the basis of informed opinion is the best way to go and if we are to have true software freedom then there must be the right to choose whichever package is best for you. | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | "Personally, I feel that the direction Google seems to be working towards, has the potential to be profoundly hurtful to huge number of people" | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Completely agree. But since the successes or failures of their tech are decided by the largely uncaring masses, there's very little (if anything) you/we can do anyway. | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | " In fact, would it be far fetched if Id start accusing people like you for this sticky situation? " | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | I wouldn't mind if you did. Maybe, possibly, But then if you are stop me from using Chromium on the basis of fears of privacy that I don't share with you, are you not infringing on a freedom of mine? Am I not then having to settle for a second best (in my view) browser, just to conform with your personal concerns. | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | I think in reality (as I said to bugs) the decision of which browser is made by the mainstream masses who neither care about privacy or are interested enough to read our words, in respect of being relaxed about privacy, that was voluntarily given up by the masses along time ago when this celebrity culture started and people decided they would post their entire lives online whilst indulging in some celeb fantasy to bolster | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | their own self esteem. More followers = better person etc etc..... | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | I'm pleased you mentioned about VPN's and you seem to suggest that they too do not give the anon status they seek to suggest, in addition HMAmail wasn't anon is it advertised since it was quick enough to give over peoples details when a court order came a calling and their admission that they recorded your IP was a bit of a shock when the entire service was pimped as being completely anon. | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Great discussion though. | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Basically I don't agree with him... | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | All just excuses to do what those in power want | Oct 11 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Compromising one's /controlled/ privacy | Oct 11 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Without their knwoledge | Oct 11 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Selling this as a 'feature;' | Oct 11 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Very typical | Oct 11 17:42 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84537832 | Oct 11 19:51 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Oct-11 18:14:28 UTC - Identi.ca: #Linux 3.1 is Nearly Here http://ur1.ca/5dfk0 | Oct 11 19:51 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Kernel Log: Linux 3.1 approaches - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.58 KB | Oct 11 19:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2011/10/07/248100/Bristol-Council-gets-open-source-go-ahead-after-CESG.htm | Oct 11 22:25 |
| schestowitz | "Mark Taylor, who as chief executive of open source supplier Sirius helped Bristol formulate its IT policy last year, said: "If you look at the actual rules, there aren't the inhibitors to open source adoption some people claim there are. Some people are not playing with a straight bat. Of course councils are risk averse. They play it safe, so they accept what is actually FUD [fear, uncertainy and doubt]."" | Oct 11 22:25 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Bristol Council gets open source go-ahead after CESG discussions - 10/7/2011 - Computer Weekly .::. Size~: 69.05 KB | Oct 11 22:25 |
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