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schestowitzLOL http://twitter.com/dmacvicar/statuses/124957831546929152Oct 15 00:33
TechrightsSocial@dmacvicar: Who the hell is Christine Hall and why the F*** her FUD matters? What are her contributions? @schestowitz 2.0?Oct 15 00:33
schestowitzSUSE staff gets angryOct 15 00:33
schestowitzand cursesOct 15 00:33
schestowitzDoes AttachMSFT approve?Oct 15 00:33
qu1j0t3'This is indeed the most depressing time in my 15 years with the company. The new review system is the clearest sign so far that Microsoft is now a company run by number crunchers rather than a company run for the benefit of its customers, shareholders and employees. On the contrary, Microsoft now seems to exist solely for the empowerment of its board and the SLT.Oct 15 00:43
qu1j0t3'The new review system ruthlessly elminates about 20% of the company each year (eventually), and completely dehumanizes its employees into a frenzied competition to see who can "outrun the bear". With our livelihoods at stake, such an environment will only bring out the worst in every one of us. If you're not willing to do whatever it takes, playing games to subtly or not-so-subtly Oct 15 00:44
qu1j0t3undermine your coworkers at every opportunity, the "bear" will soon be nipping at your heels.Oct 15 00:44
qu1j0t3'Instead of focusing on creating great products that amaze our customers, we're now really focused on strategies to outwit, outplay and outlast everyone else in our level bands. It's no wonder that you often look around at product teams and wonder, why do they need X number of devs to produce that?Oct 15 00:44
qu1j0t3'Here's a quote from a veteran ex-softie (and this was about Microsoft circa 2002):Oct 15 00:45
qu1j0t3"And I found that increasingly difficult to do within Microsoft, and I didn't appreciate that such a large percentage of my time was spent fighting political battles within the company as compared to developing great products."Oct 15 00:45
qu1j0t3http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/02/ex-microsoft_developer_mike_koss_on_why_hes_now_a_google_fanboy.htmlOct 15 00:45
TechrightsSocialTitle: Ex-Microsoft developer Koss on why he's now a 'Google fanboy' .::. Size~: 68.2 KBOct 15 00:45
qu1j0t3'Unlike desktop Windows, the brand new Metro OS has no "lock in", no legacy apps that only run on it. It will have to compete on merit, and judging from Microsoft's past success in competing on merit, the odds are not in our favor.Oct 15 00:46
schestowitzsame for WP7Oct 15 01:54
schestowitzAnd see how *that* wentOct 15 01:54
schestowitzNow they try bribing blackberry devs with phonesOct 15 01:54
schestowitzWhich I find patheticOct 15 01:54
schestowitzBut..Oct 15 01:54
schestowitzBHOct 15 01:55
schestowitzEven thouigh I still write about MS..Oct 15 01:55
qu1j0t3the next paragraph was about WP7 :)Oct 15 01:55
schestowitzThey don't scare it because their future is mistyOct 15 01:55
schestowitzI'd be worried if they actually started gaining in pgones and searchOct 15 01:55
qu1j0t3it said almost exactly what you just saidOct 15 01:55
schestowitzBut even by subsuming Yahoo they haven;tOct 15 01:55
qu1j0t3schestowitz: you don't have to worryOct 15 01:55
schestowitzNow they try ti tax Linux and use lobbying to attacj GoogleOct 15 01:55
schestowitzI supposre youy read mya rticle sbout MS FlorianOct 15 01:55
qu1j0t3schestowitz: they are structurally unable to surviveOct 15 01:56
schestowitzTurns out that, as I said all along, Microsoft funds himOct 15 01:56
qu1j0t3i never doubted itOct 15 01:56
schestowitzbut..Oct 15 01:56
schestowitzWe needed the smoking gunOct 15 01:56
qu1j0t3i remember you trying to get him to admit who his "clients" wereOct 15 01:56
schestowitzNow we have itOct 15 01:56
schestowitzo show journos twho quote his anti-Android FUDOct 15 01:56
schestowitzin Android articlesOct 15 01:56
schestowitzNow they can be shown the conflict of interetsOct 15 01:56
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the next paragraph is:Oct 15 01:57
qu1j0t3'The brand new Metro OS is really Windows Phone 7 part deux. And we all know how well that's going.Oct 15 01:57
schestowitzyeah, which is why..Oct 15 01:58
schestowitzAs you can tell fromTR and USENET/Twitter (if you read those), I shifted more attention to Apple's threatOct 15 01:58
schestowitzApple is becoming a srious issueOct 15 01:58
schestowitzon the OS frontOct 15 01:58
schestowitzesktop OSOct 15 01:58
schestowitzon the server OS Linux+apache+haddop etc. already reignOct 15 01:58
schestowitzon phones there is a patent battle nowOct 15 01:59
schestowitzMS+Apple+their trollsOct 15 01:59
schestowitztechrights turned 5 in 3 weeks from nowOct 15 01:59
schestowitzIU can run it for a while to comeOct 15 01:59
schestowitzwe covered the right subjects all alongOct 15 01:59
schestowitzstarting with the MS+Novell patent dealOct 15 01:59
schestowitzWe help diminish NovellOct 15 01:59
schestowitzby turning public opinion the way it ought to beOct 15 02:00
schestowitzNow we also warn about AppleOct 15 02:00
schestowitzExposing Microsoft lobbyists in the area, e.g. Gartnenberg, Muller...Oct 15 02:00
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schestowitzJust getting ready to go to the gym by 6... spent too much time on the computer over the past day even though I went out last night. I wonder, will it be as sunny as predicted tomorrow? Maybe a bike ride would be possible :-)Oct 15 15:42
schestowitzWe're recording another ep today...Oct 15 15:42
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/621627Oct 15 20:46
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/621215Oct 15 20:46
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 15 20:46
MinceR:)Oct 15 21:02
schestowitzUbuntu has a new releaseOct 15 21:16
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/10/hands-on-new-ubuntu-one-cloud-storage-client-for-windows.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rssOct 15 21:16
TechrightsSocialTitle: Hands-on: new Ubuntu One cloud storage client for Windows .::. Size~: 35.01 KBOct 15 21:16
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/13/ubuntu_one_available_windows/Oct 15 21:20
TechrightsSocialTitle: Ubuntu One client now available for Windows • The Register .::. Size~: 26.54 KBOct 15 21:20
schestowitzthink  twice before saying "ubuntu linux"Oct 15 21:20
schestowitzIt's just Ubuntu nowOct 15 21:21
schestowitzUbuntu OneOct 15 21:21
schestowitzUbuntu cloudOct 15 21:21
MinceRUbuntu MacOS GratisOct 15 21:21
schestowitzthe headline is mostly lowercaseOct 15 21:22
schestowitzoopsOct 15 21:22
MinceR:)Oct 15 21:22
schestowitzToday the plan was to spend some at the gym, then record an episode with Tim...Oct 15 22:15
schestowitzBut he has gone somewhat..Oct 15 22:15
schestowitzUnepectedOct 15 22:15
schestowitzMuch of the time is being spent writing and accumulating material for writing about by reading... but that's the boring stuffOct 15 22:16
qu1j0t3'The members of the Class of 2011 live with an average burden of $22,900. Their median debt load is $18,000. That's 8% more than 2010 and 47% more than a decade ago, as the Wall Street Journal reports.Oct 15 23:15
qu1j0t3Insane.Oct 15 23:15
qu1j0t3http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/10/signs-of-dissent-help-us-read-occupy-wall-street/246521/Oct 15 23:15
TechrightsSocialTitle: Signs of Dissent: Help Us Read Occupy Wall Street - Derek Thompson - Business - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 107.77 KBOct 15 23:15
qu1j0t3'What happens to a generation living with this kind of hangover? We're only now beginning to find out. Multi-generational homes are up, marriages are down, and dissatisfaction is on the rise. In a textual analysis of the OWS Tumblr "We Are the 99 Percent," Mike Konzal found that student loan debt was the movement's greatest concern. You can understand why.Oct 15 23:16
schestowitzqu1j0t3: I thought debt was greater. Is it personal debt alone?Oct 15 23:21
schestowitzWhat about national debt?Oct 15 23:21
schestowitzThe Toeries here are worried that people can't even pay back their credit card debtOct 15 23:21
schestowitz[23:16] <qu1j0t3> 'What happens to a generation living with this kind of hangover? We're only now beginning to find out. Multi-generational homes are up, marriages are down,Oct 15 23:22
schestowitzWhat about biths?Oct 15 23:22
schestowitz*birthsOct 15 23:22
MinceRbitches?Oct 15 23:22
schestowitzbirthsOct 15 23:22
schestowitzby the way, coupiling might be upOct 15 23:22
schestowitzlike multi-generational accomodationOct 15 23:22
schestowitzYesterday at the pub I met some people who spoke of hostelsOct 15 23:22
schestowitz>  Mike Konzal found that student loan debt was the movement's greatest concern. You can understand why.\Oct 15 23:23
schestowitzThat's another issue that came upOct 15 23:23
schestowitzTuuition fees her go up throught he roofOct 15 23:23
schestowitzAnd it was a bunch of us post-docs basically asserting that teaching staff will get overworked for the same wageOct 15 23:24
schestowitzworking outside normal hours, e.g. supervisingOct 15 23:24
schestowitzIt'll suck for everyone, not just studentsOct 15 23:24
qu1j0t3student loans are an outrageous concept.Oct 15 23:30
qu1j0t3it's part of an agenda that has created a slave class.Oct 15 23:31
qu1j0t3intentionallyOct 15 23:31
schestowitzhttp://money.cnn.com/2011/10/14/technology/google_buzz_shut_down/?source=cnn_binOct 15 23:32
TechrightsSocialTitle: Google kills off Buzz, its ill-fated social network - Oct. 14, 2011 .::. Size~: 40.56 KBOct 15 23:32
schestowitzqu1j0t3: why at this age?Oct 15 23:32
schestowitzSo that they get married and then get a mortgage? It makes no sense.Oct 15 23:32
schestowitzAre you suggesting free higher education like in some places in Europe?Oct 15 23:33
schestowitzhttp://www.geekwire.com/2011/open-source-developer-drops-news-hackathon-confronted-11page-contractOct 15 23:35
TechrightsSocialTitle: Open source developer objects to news hackathon’s 11-page contract - GeekWire .::. Size~: 85.65 KBOct 15 23:35
schestowitzHe no longer helps expose Microsoft's tax evasion?Oct 15 23:35
qu1j0t3schestowitz: think about itOct 15 23:42
qu1j0t3schestowitz: they have no options. it gets them either way: either they cannot afford education -- instant low wage slavery -- or they are enslaved by debt. plutocrats checkmate.Oct 15 23:43
qu1j0t3schestowitz: and it's all avoidable, but ensured by the overall agenda Oct 15 23:43
qu1j0t3schestowitz: "education reform" plays into it as wellOct 15 23:43
schestowitzqu1j0t3: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/12/progressive-major-league-baseball-glenn-beck_n_1008136.html?ir=PoliticsOct 15 23:46
TechrightsSocialTitle: Progressive Group Pressures Major League Baseball To Drop Glenn Beck .::. Size~: 375.22 KBOct 15 23:46
schestowitzamplifying?Oct 15 23:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/626361Oct 15 23:53
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/124898936996638720Oct 15 23:57
TechrightsSocial@rcweir: @webmink I don't see the LibreOffice Online code in git. Can you point me to it?Oct 15 23:57
schestowitzIBM wants OOo to itselfOct 15 23:57
schestowitzSod does Microsoft/NovellOct 15 23:58
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/124907047350317056Oct 15 23:58
TechrightsSocial@rcweir: @BartHanssens Oracle Cloud Office did not come to Apache. No idea what happened to it.Oct 15 23:58

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