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sebsebsebschestowitz: hiOct 18 12:09
schestowitzi just went back to firefox for nagios, konqueror acted funny with some sites/servicesOct 18 13:16
schestowitz"We're currently experiencing technical problems." http://www.fsf.org/news/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot-in-windows-8Oct 18 13:22
TechrightsSocialError processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 504 Gateway Time-outOct 18 13:22
schestowitz> [quote]Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> LinuxWorld Today: I've heard you described as a socialist, or aOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> communist. Do politics enter into the Free Software Foundation?Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> Richard Stallman: Politics do, but I'm not a socialist or a communist.Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> LinuxWorld Today: How would you describe yourself?Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> Richard Stallman: Well, I guess I am a sort of combination between aOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> liberal and a leftist anarchist. I like to see people working together,Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> voluntarily, to solve the world's problems. But, if we can't do that, IOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> think we should get the government involved to solve them.Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> The idea of democracy is that it enables the citizens in general to putOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> a check on the power of the richest, and these days in America we areOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> failing to use that tool, which of course, leads to a harsh life forOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> most people.Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> LinuxWorld Today: Especially the contrast between the world's wealthiestOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> man, Bill Gates, who has derived his wealth entirely from proprietaryOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> software, where people have no choice at all in the selection on the oneOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> hand..Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> Richard Stallman: Well, I should point out that people who areOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> determined enough do have a choice. I was in the same position as lotsOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> of people said they were in, and I decided I wasn't going to use that.Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> When I started the GNU project, Microsoft was not particularly importantOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> or particularly large, but what you can accurately say is that the onlyOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> other choices were difficult ones. Most people look at those difficultOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> choices and say that's too hard for me. Because they are not absolutelyOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> determined to get freedom. The most important thing about the GNUOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> project is that it is giving people an alternative to proprietaryOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> software that is easier, and because it is easier, more people feel theyOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> can choose it. So that's the way it spreads freedom to people, by givingOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> them a less heroic way they can get freedom.Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> Anyway, the people who call me a communist are engaging in Red-baiting.Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> It's a standard thing. If anybody criticizes something about whatOct 18 23:20
schestowitz> business is doing, at the present, they get called a communist.Oct 18 23:20
schestowitz> Oct 18 23:21
schestowitz> When people said, "Don't pour poison in the river," they were calledOct 18 23:21
schestowitz> communists. But they didn't want to abolish business. They wanted toOct 18 23:21
schestowitz> abolish pouring poison into the river. The free software movement is aOct 18 23:21
schestowitz> lot like that. It's a lot like the environmental movement because theOct 18 23:21
schestowitz> goal is not to abolish business, the goal is to end a certain kind ofOct 18 23:21
schestowitz> pollution. But in this case, it's not pollution of the air or the water,Oct 18 23:21
schestowitz> it's pollution of our social relationships.Oct 18 23:21
schestowitz> Oct 18 23:21
schestowitz> When somebody says, here is this nice thing that you will enjoy usingOct 18 23:21
schestowitz> but if you share it with your neighbor we'll call you a pirate and putOct 18 23:21
schestowitz> you in jail, they are polluting society's most important resource, whichOct 18 23:21
schestowitz> is goodwill, the willingness to cooperate with other people.Oct 18 23:21
schestowitz> [/quote]Oct 18 23:21
schestowitz> Oct 18 23:21
schestowitz> http://tinyurl.com/6kk7pzf (LinuxWorld Today interview by Joe Barr, viaOct 18 23:21
TechrightsSocialTitle: LinuxWorld Today .::. Size~: 46.13 KBOct 18 23:21
schestowitz> archive.org)Oct 18 23:21

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