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| schestowitz | one reader is unhappy about the jobs articles | Oct 24 00:20 |
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| schestowitz | [00:03] <bloggs> Death frightens people. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:03] <schestowitz> not atheists | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:03] <bloggs> You have been going thermonuclear against steve jobs. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:03] <bloggs> yes, atheists don't want to die either. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:04] <bloggs> You are expending all of your reputation in attacking him. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:04] <bloggs> It's bad for the cause. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:04] <bloggs> It would be much better if you waited a while. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:04] <schestowitz> yes, the early accusations were premature | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:05] <schestowitz> but now even the news airs it | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:05] <bloggs> People think: Jobs is dead -- he's not experiencing anything any more. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:05] <bloggs> Death is terrifying. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:05] <schestowitz> It varies between people | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:05] <bloggs> People feel sympathetic toward him, just because he's dead. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:05] <schestowitz> Some people told me to leave it alone | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:05] <bloggs> Lots of people do. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:05] <bloggs> Even I do. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:06] <bloggs> And I never liked macs or anything from apple. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:06] <bloggs> (but the apple II was nice at the time, with the color tv circuit) | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:06] <bloggs> Anyhow, it makes you look very bad. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:06] <schestowitz> depends to whom | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:06] <bloggs> And even quoting bs like LSD addiction. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:07] <schestowitz> it's in an autobio he approved | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:07] <bloggs> yes, but to enough people that it is injurious to the accomplishments of techrights. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:07] <schestowitz> I did not delve into it | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:07] <bloggs> even so. | Oct 24 00:21 |
| schestowitz | [00:07] <schestowitz> 7 and Homer did | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:07] <schestowitz> I just mentioned that | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:07] <bloggs> But you then quoted one of them. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:08] <bloggs> Look, you can come up with various arguments about why it shouldn't matter to an objective person. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:08] <schestowitz> righyt.. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:08] <bloggs> But death is regarded by many people, including me, as a very bad thing, personally. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:08] <schestowitz> but that's part of the objective | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:08] <schestowitz> I'm no PR person | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:08] <bloggs> What objective? | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:08] <schestowitz> But I don't believe death grants people the right to long-term respect | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:08] <schestowitz> Edison was an ass | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:09] <schestowitz> Should we pretend he was an American hero? No. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:09] <schestowitz> Objective of setting truth straight | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:09] <bloggs> Yes, but you should just lay off him in the short term, for a couple of months. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:09] <schestowitz> Watch how Billy is doing PR for himself | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:09] <bloggs> That is, you should have. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:09] <bloggs> Gates? | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:09] <schestowitz> it works on many people, we can counter that... the many Gates critics on the Web;... and that too works | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:10] <bloggs> You should just stop attacking Jobs now. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:10] <schestowitz> ok | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:10] <bloggs> You should not have started. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:10] <bloggs> People are not rational about death. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:10] <bloggs> It is the worst thing they can think of. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:11] <bloggs> I'm not saying this because I think you should have respect for jobs. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:11] <bloggs> But because it is injuring your reputation, and thus your readership and the effect you will have in the future. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:12] <schestowitz> I have not seen such an effect | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:12] <bloggs> I don't care about Jobs at all. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:12] <bloggs> How would you know? | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:12] <schestowitz> If I did, I would rethink it | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:12] <schestowitz> It's something one can feel based on feedback in general | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:13] <bloggs> I feel it's ugly and nasty when I see it. | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:13] <schestowitz> Nobody who is supportive of my cause has yet said what you say now | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:13] <schestowitz> ok, so I will stop now | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:13] <schestowitz> Cannot undo what you saw before | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:13] <bloggs> OK | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:13] <schestowitz> I have other topics to cover anyway | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:14] <bloggs> I'm still fully supportive. But I'm afraid it may affect others who don;'t give you feedback | Oct 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | [00:14] <bloggs> ok | Oct 24 00:26 |
| schestowitz | [00:14] <bloggs> You're doing a great job in general! | Oct 24 00:26 |
| schestowitz | [00:15] <schestowitz> techrights only did 2 articles about jobs after he died | Oct 24 00:26 |
| schestowitz | [00:15] <schestowitz> that covered everything pretty much, I can move on | Oct 24 00:26 |
| schestowitz | [00:15] <schestowitz> I lost track of Gates stuff | Oct 24 00:26 |
| schestowitz | [00:15] <bloggs> I dunno, I've been seeing a whole lot more than that! | Oct 24 00:26 |
| MinceR | funny he should choose the word "thermonuclear". | Oct 24 07:03 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Oct 24 08:00 |
| schestowitz | I thought so too | Oct 24 08:00 |
| schestowitz | people fried | Oct 24 08:00 |
| schestowitz | then cancer | Oct 24 08:00 |
| schestowitz | Cancer.. geddit? | Oct 24 08:00 |
| schestowitz | Quite the charming word to use... thermonuclear... not just nuclear | Oct 24 08:00 |
| MinceR | no, i mean the patent abuser vowed to go thermonuclear against android before he kicked the bucket | Oct 24 09:11 |
| MinceR | ironic that someone would use the exact same word to defend him | Oct 24 09:12 |
| schestowitz | if he goes thermonuclear against android, some Google staff will evaporate | Oct 24 09:35 |
| schestowitz | the rest might get cancer over time | Oct 24 09:36 |
| schestowitz | so basically he's wishing cancer and death to Google | Oct 24 09:36 |
| schestowitz | !google death life changing agent | Oct 24 09:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Death is Life's Change Agent | dancing cripples | http://www.dannold.com/%3Fp%3D3340 | Oct 24 09:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Steve Jobs: Death is a life changing Agent | Diaspora Kenyan | http://diasporakenyan.se/2011/10/steve-jobs-death-is-a-life-changing-agent/ | Oct 24 09:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Steve Jobs' 2005 Stanford Commencement Address - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUF8uR6Z6KLc | Oct 24 09:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Steve Jobs on Death as Life's Change Agent | Flickr - Photo Sharing! | http://www.flickr.com/photos/sujatha_fan/2779680388/ | Oct 24 09:36 |
| schestowitz | "Change" | Oct 24 09:36 |
| schestowitz | Obama used that slogan too | Oct 24 09:36 |
| MinceR | change we can believe in | Oct 24 09:36 |
| schestowitz | Change can be bad and good | Oct 24 09:36 |
| schestowitz | Which is what makes it clever use of words | Oct 24 09:37 |
| schestowitz | No news here either: | Oct 24 12:18 |
| schestowitz | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1867923 | Oct 24 12:18 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: [ubuntu] Does Dell Sell Ubuntu machines - Ubuntu Forums .::. Size~: 94.89 KB | Oct 24 12:18 |
| schestowitz | >>Who cares if he's being paid to advocate linux and point out the crimes | Oct 24 13:45 |
| schestowitz | >>of the opposition as long as he's open about doing that, and he's doing | Oct 24 13:45 |
| schestowitz | >>it primarily to and for advocates of linux? | Oct 24 13:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 24 13:45 |
| schestowitz | > Indeed. Micro$oft has $billions to spend to get their version of the | Oct 24 13:45 |
| schestowitz | > "truth" across. But they still seem frightened of "Big Bad Roy". | Oct 24 13:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | lol | Oct 24 14:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | of course. criminals are always afraid of honest people. | Oct 24 14:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | they try to eliminate them any way possible | Oct 24 14:10 |
| schestowitz | daemonisation works | Oct 24 14:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | they'll try anything until something sticks. look at Assange. | Oct 24 14:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | btw, did you get the news? Wikileaks is challenging the payment blockade | Oct 24 14:15 |
| *qu1j0t3 got email about it this morning | Oct 24 14:15 | |
| qu1j0t3 | @Specimen | There's one good reason not to buy an Android phone, you'll be likely paying up to $15 to MS for royalties... :( | Oct 24 14:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | qu1j0t3 | hehehehhahrhahrahrhahra | Oct 24 14:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | qu1j0t3 | wow, so they have the 'oem tax' in that market too. | Oct 24 14:44 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz | they push this FUD | Oct 24 14:53 |
| schestowitz | fake cost too | Oct 24 14:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | hehe | Oct 24 14:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | well this person is a fairly pro-MS guy | Oct 24 14:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | a pragmatist | Oct 24 14:54 |
| MinceR | hardly pragmatic, that | Oct 24 14:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | you know what i mean | Oct 24 14:54 |
| MinceR | i know they call themselves "pragmatic" | Oct 24 15:02 |
| MinceR | while sticking to shoddy, badly supported, undocumented systems :> | Oct 24 15:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | right | Oct 24 15:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | i know, it's a typical example of things-being-the-opposite-of-what-they-claim | Oct 24 15:04 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 24 15:06 |
| *gnufreex (~quassel@178-223-110-241.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Oct 24 19:25 | |
| schestowitz | I can come and visitrelative in Florida this year. I get vacation from work..... one month's worth | Oct 24 23:18 |
| schestowitz | *elatives | Oct 24 23:18 |
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