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schestowitz"Defamation and Intimidation: All That Linux Foes Have Got Left"Oct 25 09:35
MinceRthey've also got tivoization (UEFI "secure" boot)Oct 25 09:35
schestowitz"Oct 25 09:39
schestowitzLet's face it. When all that trolls and monopolists can do it insultOct 25 09:39
schestowitzAndroid, litigate against Linux, and attack its supporters, then weOct 25 09:39
schestowitzknow they are "fighting". Next we win. I have got many holiday entitlementsOct 25 09:39
schestowitzleft until December (3 weeks off in total), so I'll get back to postingOct 25 09:39
schestowitzmore in COLA. That's what they hate the most -- true stories about LinuxOct 25 09:39
schestowitzsuccesses. They attack people who help the cause, using defamation, blackmail,Oct 25 09:39
schestowitzand libel. FWIW, not replying to the trolls does not mean they are right.Oct 25 09:39
schestowitzIt just means they are proven trolls, not deserving a reply.Oct 25 09:39
schestowitz"Oct 25 09:39
schestowitzMinceR: yeahOct 25 09:39
schestowitzBut I'm talking mostly about trollsOct 25 09:39
schestowitzReferring to a USENET incidentsOct 25 09:39
schestowitzThey attack one avocate's wifeOct 25 09:39
schestowitzTrying to pressure him into quitting to stop unwarranted abuse of the wifeOct 25 09:40
schestowitzAmazing..Oct 25 09:40
schestowitzMinceR: remembr thunderf00t?Oct 25 09:40
schestowitzThe atheist woith that channel on atheismOct 25 09:40
schestowitzSome musliams who are not so radical threatened his familyOct 25 09:40
schestowitzSo he stopped making videos on the topicOct 25 09:41
schestowitzIt's not just about himself bputting himself at riskOct 25 09:41
schestowitzThey startb thretaening to hurt lpeople who have nothing to do with his videoOct 25 09:41
schestowitzAnd he produced evidence of thisOct 25 09:41
schestowitzPressure by proxyOct 25 09:41
MinceR:/Oct 25 09:43
MinceR"religion poisons everything"Oct 25 09:43
MinceR(Christopher Hitchens)Oct 25 09:44
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84771387Oct 25 09:51
TechrightsSocial@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Oct-11 08:32:05 UTC - Identi.ca: Three years on the GNU/Linux road http://is.gd/tBI6cJ an example to be followed?Oct 25 09:51
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Three years on the GNU/Linux road | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 50.8 KBOct 25 09:51
schestowitzMinceR: does Apple and Microsoft qualify as a religion?Oct 25 09:51
schestowitzIs it duotheistic?Oct 25 09:52
MinceRyes; dunnoOct 25 09:55
schestowitz>> You made that up.Oct 25 11:26
schestowitz> Oct 25 11:27
schestowitz> The Microsoft Corporation is the only entity in the worldOct 25 11:27
schestowitz> with:Oct 25 11:27
schestowitz> Oct 25 11:27
schestowitz> 1. the motivation to prevent people from listening to Roy,Oct 25 11:27
schestowitz> because he posts info about Microsoft's crimesOct 25 11:27
schestowitz> Oct 25 11:27
schestowitz> 2. the resources to pay people for years to post lies aboutOct 25 11:27
schestowitz> Roy anonymouslyOct 25 11:27
schestowitz> Oct 25 11:27
schestowitz> 3. a proven history of paying people to write fraudulentOct 25 11:27
schestowitz> articles and letters in its supportOct 25 11:27
schestowitz> Oct 25 11:27
schestowitz> 4. a huge long history over more than ten years and withOct 25 11:27
schestowitz> the expenditure of more than $100million to suppressOct 25 11:27
schestowitz> Linux in the dozens of different ways that Rex BallardOct 25 11:27
schestowitz> listed recentlyOct 25 11:27
schestowitz> Oct 25 11:27
schestowitz> So no, I didn't make it up.Oct 25 11:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/669342Oct 25 11:28
schestowitzRepublican bloggerOct 25 11:28
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 25 11:28
qu1j0t3expenditure of more than $100 million to crush linux?Oct 25 13:58
qu1j0t3nonsense. as the single greatest threat, they have certainly spent tens of billions to crush linux.Oct 25 13:58
qu1j0t3which is a losing tacticOct 25 13:59
MinceRimagine if they spent that kind of money on developing a product that does not totally suckOct 25 14:02
MinceR:>Oct 25 14:02
qu1j0t3rightOct 25 14:02
qu1j0t3there's no way there from hereOct 25 14:02
qu1j0t3it's like expecting an elephant to be able to live like a whaleOct 25 14:03
qu1j0t3MS is headed for extinction :)Oct 25 14:03
MinceR:>Oct 25 14:04
schestowitzqu1j0t3: some business still are locked inOct 25 14:20
MinceRand there's the UEFI "secure" boot issueOct 25 14:21
schestowitzMicrosoft also has a lot of power over government and can force its way into some contracts for years to come, although there too they will lose.Oct 25 14:21
schestowitzGoogle seems to have taken a lot of their pie along with Red Hat and IBMOct 25 14:21
schestowitzNot as much revenue for themOct 25 14:21
schestowitzOffice and Widnows profits have been declining, tooOct 25 14:21
schestowitzMinceR: it'll blow in their face.... like iPhoneOct 25 14:22
MinceRi hope soOct 25 14:22
qu1j0t3schestowitz: "some business" still locked in? Still the majority.Oct 25 14:23
qu1j0t3schestowitz: there is much to be done...Oct 25 14:23
schestowitzyeahOct 25 14:29
schestowitzMicrosoft still cheats and bribes in governmentOct 25 14:29
schestowitzWe need to expose them moreOct 25 14:29
schestowitzlike in Tamil-NaduOct 25 14:30
schestowitzThen the corrupt politicians backtrack or resignOct 25 14:30
schestowitzLinux Takes Stage in Indian Education http://is.gd/G2zAk0Oct 25 14:30
schestowitz#india #android #schoolOct 25 14:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: World’s Cheapest Tablet Running Android for educational institutions | Linux Tips .::. Size~: 45.91 KBOct 25 14:31
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schestowitzI wrote to Google about Microsoft patentsOct 25 17:08
schestowitz"I know you are not associated with Google's legal department, but Google's reluctance to engage in legal action or invoke the RICO Act in defence of Android seems to be disappointing many people who are cheering for the success of the platform (the "desktop Linux dream come true" as you put it). By neglecting to take legal action and also accumulating its own patents (some months ago you told me Google was exploring the Oct 25 17:08
schestowitzpurchase of patents, shortly before the Motorola news came in) GNU/Linux platforms such as Ubuntu are left ever more vulnerable to extortionate moves from Microsoft, which the latter will use as "precedence" -- a sort of credibility test for assertions made without substantiation. Google does have the pocket to stand up to abusive behaviour that constitutes antitrust violations."Oct 25 17:08
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/84714017#notice-84779274 http://identi.ca/notice/84779274Oct 25 17:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.56 KBOct 25 17:09
TechrightsSocial@Johnny Null (johnnynull)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Oct-11 15:53:52 UTC - Identi.ca: I find this unlikely. Too useful in terms of info for the Fed.Oct 25 17:09
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84779453 http://identi.ca/notice/84779464Oct 25 17:10
TechrightsSocial@silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Oct-11 16:02:38 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Honestly? I think Google Reader is the best RSS reader around, but Liferea and Akregator are pretty good, latter being fasterOct 25 17:10
TechrightsSocial@silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Oct-11 16:03:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Sorry. I completely misread that question :(Oct 25 17:10
qu1j0t3/b 4Oct 25 17:16
schestowitzre http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/50589-foss-luminaries-ignore-ritchies-passingOct 25 18:12
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 25 18:12
schestowitzI spoke to RMS about it. It is respectful enough to not say a word when the media already does that. To berate someone for lack of comment seems unnecessary.Oct 25 18:12
schestowitzYou know what I've notice...Oct 25 19:35
qu1j0t3whatOct 25 19:35
schestowitzA lot of people these days use digital cameras differently from analogue days...Oct 25 19:35
schestowitzThey use the abundance of photos wierdlyOct 25 19:35
schestowitzto be sleectiveOct 25 19:35
schestowitzThey would take like 5 shotsOct 25 19:36
schestowitzThen delete 4 Oct 25 19:36
schestowitzthose that don't reinforce their self imageOct 25 19:36
schestowitzSome delete them on the spotOct 25 19:36
schestowitzKilling the evidenceOct 25 19:36
schestowitzSome just don't publish the majorityOct 25 19:36
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schestowitzBut those who are most selective like to pretend they don't withhold the l;east flattering shotsOct 25 19:36
schestowitzJust a thought I've had for a while having generally observed that many people -- unlike me -- don't mind archival even, if that harms their self esteemOct 25 19:37
schestowitzSimilarly, some businesses work in a similar fashionOct 25 19:37
schestowitzminimalist sitesOct 25 19:37
schestowitzfew articlesOct 25 19:37
schestowitzWorking on reputationOct 25 19:37
schestowitz'quality' vs wualityOct 25 19:37
schestowitzBut all that is, well... it's a bit  like an illusionOct 25 19:38
schestowitzHiding behind one's best works while denying access to the restOct 25 19:38
schestowitzAnd this is why open access and open data scare some peopleOct 25 19:38
schestowitz"Is there supposed to be a link with this? Otherwise, what "thermo-nuclear blow" is this?" http://joindiaspora.com/posts/673341Oct 25 19:38
schestowitzThe context is this...Oct 25 19:38
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 25 19:39
schestowitz!google therrmonuclear jobsOct 25 19:39
TechrightsSocial[1] - Aikichi Kuboyama – Free listening, concerts, stats, & pictures at Last.fm | http://www.last.fm/music/Aikichi%2BKuboyamaOct 25 19:39
schestowitz!google thermonuclear jobsOct 25 19:39
TechrightsSocial[1] - Steve Jobs had pledged “thermonuclear war” on Android | Android ... | http://androidcommunity.com/steve-jobs-had-pledged-thermonuclear-war-on-android-20111021/Oct 25 19:39
TechrightsSocial[2] - Steve Jobs Was Ready For "Thermonuclear War" With Google | http://gizmodo.com/5851937/steve-jobs-was-ready-for-thermonuclear-war-with-googleOct 25 19:39
TechrightsSocial[3] - Steve Jobs Said He'd 'Go Thermonuclear War' On Google Over ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-google-grand-theft_n_1023111.htmlOct 25 19:39
TechrightsSocial[4] - Steve Jobs was “willing to go thermonuclear” to destroy Android ... | http://tabtimes.com/news/ittech-os-android/2011/10/21/steve-jobs-was-willing-go-thermonuclear-destroy-androidOct 25 19:39
schestowitz:I'd say that here "Jobs" refers to all the people who aim to think/act like him, which given his media image, is plenty. Though Jobs may be gone, his imitators will surely do the same things given half the chance. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/672538Oct 25 20:04
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 25 20:04
schestowitz"my gosh yes they will do... " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/672538Oct 25 20:04
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qu1j0t3lolOct 25 20:06
qu1j0t3imitatorsOct 25 20:06
qu1j0t3like BallmerOct 25 20:06
schestowitzyeah :-)Oct 25 20:12
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJmKCg2MFWY&feature=relatedOct 25 21:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: George Carlin -- I Dislike their Corporatocracy..       - YouTube .::. Size~: 87.89 KBOct 25 21:05

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