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sebsebsebHiOct 29 00:05
schestowitzhelloOct 29 00:09
qu1j0t3olaOct 29 00:36
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: nice Ubuntu is losing it's popularity :DOct 29 00:47
qu1j0t3to what? W7?Oct 29 00:51
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: to other distros I guessOct 29 00:53
sebsebseband I have something now that is telling me it's losing pouplarity :DOct 29 00:53
sebsebsebthe big Ubuntu channel isn't as active by a long wayOct 29 00:53
qu1j0t3oddOct 29 00:54
sebsebsebgoing by me being in there now forOct 29 00:54
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: it used to be the largest channel on freenodeOct 29 00:54
sebsebsebnearly an hourOct 29 00:54
sebsebseband also by the log of yesterdayOct 29 00:54
sebsebsebif you look at the times of messages you see for yourselfOct 29 00:54
sebsebsebthe log of the 28thOct 29 00:54
qu1j0t3but why do u go there if you don't use ubuntu?Oct 29 00:54
sebsebsebhttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/28/%23lubuntu.htmlOct 29 00:55
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sebsebsebstill got al ot of people in it, but not that many messagesOct 29 00:55
sebsebseband Ubuntu was my distroOct 29 00:55
sebsebsebfor yearsOct 29 00:55
qu1j0t3what made you change?Oct 29 00:57
qu1j0t3and what do you use now?Oct 29 00:58
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sebsebsebqu1j0t3: Mandriva 2010.2 with old Gnome SHell preview form last year mainly for nowOct 29 01:20
sebsebsebwith Mageia 1 on here as wellOct 29 01:20
sebsebsebI am waiting for Mageia 2 alpha 1 next month :DOct 29 01:20
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sebsebsebqu1j0t3: Hmm turns out I was looking at a Lubuntu channel log earlier, so nope not what I said.Oct 29 02:16
sebsebseb:(Oct 29 02:16
qu1j0t3hehOct 29 02:57
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schestowitz"Same here. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/687124Oct 29 07:18
TechrightsSocial@: Oct 29 07:18
schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, Ubuntu loses to Mint tooOct 29 07:18
schestowitzSee distrowatch for 7 past daysOct 29 07:18
schestowitzMint wins by about 3000 to 2000Oct 29 07:18
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/687098Oct 29 07:19
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schestowitz"Oct 29 07:19
schestowitzIt should all be free software, or it will do nasty things to the owner. Already automotive black boxes store driving histories for insurance companies to review and most now come with a remote activated kill switch. Auxiliary systems, such as OnStar, have been used as wiretaps and the company announced it would keep track of drivers whether they subscribed to the service or not. Those are malicious features that would be Oct 29 07:19
schestowitzremoved by the free software community.Oct 29 07:19
schestowitzBMW used a lot of Microsoft in their cars and it was a big mess.Oct 29 07:19
schestowitz"Oct 29 07:19
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/686560 "nice but they only got one of the explosions. there were several. "Oct 29 07:20
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v04IdNPuMlc&feature=digest_monOct 29 13:51
TechrightsSocialTitle: Everyone's A Cry Baby       - YouTube .::. Size~: 112.2 KBOct 29 13:51
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schestowitzLinks 29/10/2011: Google TV 2.0, Orion 0.3 http://techrights.org/2011/10/29/links-29102011-google-tv-2-0-orion-0-3/ #techrightsOct 29 13:57
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schestowitzI go on a break in December... Manchester Airport was a little weird about duty free tax when I last tried some years ago (buying Chivas Regal), saying that a flight I was taking was not long enough for this because I flew into Belgium. I hope the rules have been relaxed.Oct 29 17:50
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Oct 29 17:54
schestowitz> Oct 29 17:54
schestowitz> I don't know why the Linux Foundation is so soft on the proposedOct 29 17:54
schestowitz> changes to UEFI.  M$ does not deserve the benefit of the doubt in mostOct 29 17:54
schestowitz> things and especially in areas where they have acted less than legalOct 29 17:54
schestowitz> before:Oct 29 17:54
schestowitz> http://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/Oct 29 17:54
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schestowitzThe Linux Foundation plays a PR role. The OIN is similarly spineless. I learned this by talking to them. I'm friends with them on LinkedIn and stuff, but I also know what they are trying to achieve. They are not the FSF. They try to appeal to some businesses that find the FSF repellent, either by playing less hostile towards patents or showing themselves to be cooperative with MSFT and Apple. Fair enough, they are still on Oct 29 17:56
schestowitzour side really (LF and OIN).Oct 29 17:56
qu1j0t3amen. M$ does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.Oct 29 18:02
schestowitz> Skype runs on Linux servers...I would really like to see experiment toOct 29 18:08
schestowitz> run it on Windows Server instead. It would fail and wipe out of Skype,Oct 29 18:08
schestowitz> which would not be bad at all because it is owned by MS.Oct 29 18:08
schestowitz:-)Oct 29 18:08
qu1j0t3:)Oct 29 18:20
qu1j0t3agreedOct 29 18:20
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2011/10/28/one-place-firefox-beats-chrome-is-thin-clients/Oct 29 18:55
TechrightsSocialTitle: One Place FireFox Beats Chrome is Thin Clients at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 34.38 KBOct 29 18:55
schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15052030Oct 29 18:56
TechrightsSocialTitle: BBC News - Women in Saudi Arabia to vote and run in elections .::. Size~: 92.5 KBOct 29 18:56
schestowitz>> ... or showing themselves to be cooperative with MSFTOct 29 19:16
schestowitz> Oct 29 19:16
schestowitz> Unfortunately that not something that could ever be excusable seeingOct 29 19:16
schestowitz> as what a mess M$ makes of not just IT but anything.Oct 29 19:16
schestowitz> Oct 29 19:16
schestowitz>> ... and Apple. Fair enough, they are still on our side really (LFOct 29 19:16
schestowitz>> and OIN).Oct 29 19:16
schestowitz> Oct 29 19:16
schestowitz> The UEFI discussion is coming along slowly even after one week:Oct 29 19:16
schestowitz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11406706Oct 29 19:16
schestowitzThere is a long time to go before Vista 8 is finalised. Blogs are still talking about this. I don't think we can achieve much by focusing more on something that others do quite thoroughly (Groklaw didn't touch this). I try to focus on patent issues, for now (lacking much time to write).Oct 29 19:16
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schestowitz> Best not to get spread too thin.Oct 29 20:20
schestowitzSeems like a high priority issue to tackle the main barrier to FOSS and software eng.Oct 29 20:20
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/130359867532779520?iid=am-37327486213199151891454579&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Oct 29 20:21
TechrightsSocial@yuhong2: @schestowitz http://t.co/eqanaarx points to a broken PDF.Oct 29 20:21
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schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/px04528.pdf Oct 29 20:26
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting application/pdf typeOct 29 20:26
schestowitzJust fixed it..Oct 29 20:26
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schestowitzWeird.... someone I just spoke to thought I was from ArizonaOct 29 20:55
schestowitzAn English teacher.. :/Oct 29 20:55
schestowitz> http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/harveyt-1235337-norman-rockwells-america/Oct 29 21:08
schestowitz> Oct 29 21:08
TechrightsSocialTitle: Norman_Rockwells_America Ppt Presentation .::. Size~: 113.64 KBOct 29 21:08
schestowitz> The Rockwell paintings will appear on my web log tomorrow.Oct 29 21:08
schestowitz> Words cannot express what he was able to capture in his paintings, perhapsOct 29 21:08
schestowitz> that is why we value his art.Oct 29 21:08
schestowitz> Oct 29 21:08
schestowitz> Some critics complain that he was not on the same level as the old masters,Oct 29 21:08
schestowitz> I disagree. His paintings give me pleasure and that is enough.Oct 29 21:08
schestowitz> Oct 29 21:08
schestowitz> The (solo) attachment is one I personally love; I bought a fine copy whichOct 29 21:08
schestowitz> hangs in my son Andrew's office. Oct 29 21:08
schestowitz"I've just realised that your son's name can be pronnouned like "Drew even", which is pretty clever. :-)"Oct 29 21:09
schestowitzhttp://identi.caOct 29 22:35
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