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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84421335Oct 05 00:11
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Oct-11 22:43:33 UTC - Identi.ca: #Fedora 16 Reaches Beta http://ur1.ca/5asepOct 05 00:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Fedora 16 'Verne' beta released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.21 KBOct 05 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 62 – 03/10/11 – “I told you so!” http://ur1.ca/5asn9 http://ur1.ca/5asnbOct 05 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 62 – 03/10/11 – “I told you so!” « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 40.61 KBOct 05 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » TechBytes Episode 62: Nokia, Google, Diaspora, Etc. .::. Size~: 36.77 KBOct 05 00:11
_GoblinIm just looking at that on another rig (Fedora 16 that is)Oct 05 00:12
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schestowitzoh, coolOct 05 00:18
schestowitzhm... I might try xfce shortlyOct 05 00:18
schestowitzwill have to rsync some code over to it firstOct 05 00:19
schestowitzrunning some experiment since 6pmOct 05 00:20
schestowitz_Goblin: btw, in case you don't read colsOct 05 00:21
schestowitzyou got too deep in itOct 05 00:21
schestowitzyou're still brought up there a lotOct 05 00:21
schestowitzit's like terry porter after he leftOct 05 00:21
schestowitzhe was a legendOct 05 00:22
schestowitznow he does very well selling linux-based wirelessOct 05 00:22
_Goblintoo deep in what?Oct 05 00:22
schestowitzinvolvementOct 05 00:22
_Goblinlol...Oct 05 00:22
schestowitzsome trolls there obsess over youOct 05 00:22
schestowitzyou can at least read itOct 05 00:22
_Goblinim flatteredOct 05 00:22
_GoblinI occasionally look at some of the posts with outragious titles.Oct 05 00:22
schestowitzRick Flare was it who said something about it?Oct 05 00:23
_Goblinbut more like you would read a tabloid on a train...something to pass the time and giggle at.Oct 05 00:23
_GoblinyepOct 05 00:23
schestowitzor was it another pseudo-wrestler?Oct 05 00:23
schestowitzick Flare is a fake name, right?Oct 05 00:23
_Goblin"To be loved is fine, to be hated is fine....its indifference thats the killer"Oct 05 00:23
_GoblinRic FlairOct 05 00:23
schestowitzyeah, I knew I got it wrongOct 05 00:23
schestowitzis it his real name?Oct 05 00:24
_Goblinnearly...Oct 05 00:24
_GoblinI can't remember his real name but its similarOct 05 00:24
schestowitzRemember Razor Ramone?Oct 05 00:24
schestowitzIS he still around spitting toothpicks?Oct 05 00:24
_Goblinyep...Oct 05 00:25
_Goblinhe's in TNAOct 05 00:25
schestowitzAnd Randy the Macho ManOct 05 00:25
schestowitzRemembr that takes me back to pre-age 10 daysOct 05 00:25
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schestowitzok, sfce time...Oct 05 00:26
schestowitz*xfOct 05 00:26
_GoblinxOct 05 00:26
_Goblinbeat you!Oct 05 00:26
schestowitznaaOct 05 00:26
schestowitzI show up as coming first hereOct 05 00:26
schestowitzdepends on travel timeOct 05 00:26
_GoblinIve just been reading about that....sort of.Oct 05 00:26
_Goblinworm holes.....Oct 05 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Nominations are open for the 14th annual Free Software Awards -- http://ur1.ca/5asa1 !gnu !linux !fsf !lp !ccOct 05 00:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nominations are open for the 14th annual Free Software Awards — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 26.83 KBOct 05 00:26
schestowitzcoaxOct 05 00:27
_GoblinhOct 05 00:27
_Goblin?Oct 05 00:27
schestowitzhelium?Oct 05 00:27
schestowitzor are you just H to see me? :-)Oct 05 00:27
_Goblinno...I was trying to be clever....Oct 05 00:27
_GoblinI thought you did a typoOct 05 00:27
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_Goblinand you were trying to say "hoax" in relation to wormholes....Oct 05 00:28
_GoblinI jumped in with the hOct 05 00:28
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schestowitzno, coaxOct 05 00:28
schestowitzcablesOct 05 00:28
_Goblinyou see you jumped from the worm holes...that threw me.Oct 05 00:28
schestowitzsilly tipsOct 05 00:29
schestowitzwhy would xfce have them up by default?Oct 05 00:29
schestowitzewwwOct 05 00:29
schestowitzso uglyOct 05 00:29
schestowitzlike back 10 years ago when I used itOct 05 00:29
_Goblinsame reason why KDE hides its 24h clock option under layers of other options.... ;)Oct 05 00:30
schestowitzat least it's fastOct 05 00:30
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schestowitzcan I do some transluency?Oct 05 00:30
_Goblinyep....Oct 05 00:30
_Goblinwhat the taskbar?Oct 05 00:30
schestowitzeverythingOct 05 00:30
schestowitzi don't see the optionsOct 05 00:30
_Goblincoming from a seasoned KDE user you should be used to that.Oct 05 00:31
_Goblin;)Oct 05 00:31
schestowitzClearlooks is OKOct 05 00:31
schestowitzlooks like GNOME in FedoraOct 05 00:31
_Goblinany reason for an xfce examination?Oct 05 00:31
Diablo-D3clearlooks is the least shitty gtk theme.Oct 05 00:31
Diablo-D3_Goblin: other than I use it?Oct 05 00:31
_Goblin?Oct 05 00:32
_GoblinWho you talking to Diablo-D3 ?Oct 05 00:32
Diablo-D3I use xfce.Oct 05 00:32
Diablo-D3[07:29:03] <_Goblin> any reason for an xfce examination?Oct 05 00:32
_Goblinyep to RoyOct 05 00:32
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_Goblinnot you.Oct 05 00:32
schestowitzok, back to jkdeOct 05 00:32
Diablo-D3yes, but roy is some weirdo kde fagOct 05 00:32
schestowitz[00:32] <Diablo-D3> I use xfce.Oct 05 00:33
schestowitzmy deepest condolencesOct 05 00:33
_Goblinschestowitz: He's having a lozza tonight.....I wouldn't bother.Oct 05 00:33
Diablo-D3feh, its faster, lighter, and less ugly than your kde shitOct 05 00:33
Diablo-D3kde doesnt even work unless you use nvidia proprietary drivers, and I refuse to let nvidia hardware in the houseOct 05 00:34
schestowitzHey, if I wanted my desktop to look like it's from 2000, I'd use WindowsOct 05 00:35
Diablo-D3schestowitz: well, yeah, exactlyOct 05 00:35
Diablo-D3my desktop looks like win2k before microsoft trashed it upOct 05 00:35
schestowitzsfce-de2Oct 05 00:36
Diablo-D3no distracting elements, a pleasing shade of gray, tiny icons, etcOct 05 00:36
schestowitzah, that one I could try to pretend it me going back to being an undergradOct 05 00:36
Diablo-D3and no wasting of screen space with two taskbarsOct 05 00:36
schestowitzTaqua is niceOct 05 00:37
Diablo-D3well, two panel bar thingiesOct 05 00:37
schestowitzI'll give it another goOct 05 00:38
Diablo-D3seriously, microsoft should have just kept with win2k and not touched shitOct 05 00:38
Diablo-D3but they're fucking moronsOct 05 00:38
schestowitzDiablo-D3: they live up to their nameOct 05 00:39
schestowitzWhich says a lotOct 05 00:39
Diablo-D3you know, gnome 3 might not be as bad as Ive said thoughOct 05 00:39
Diablo-D3you know why?Oct 05 00:39
Diablo-D3it seems they've basically removed everything De Icaza has ever touchedOct 05 00:40
Diablo-D3and gnome shell squashes unity like a gnatOct 05 00:40
schestowitzshsOct 05 00:40
schestowitzJust did a preview of experiments I;ve run for 6 hoursOct 05 00:41
schestowitzand it's going in the right directionOct 05 00:41
Diablo-D3I might unlazy at some point and throw gnoem 3 on hereOct 05 00:41
schestowitzgive a warning firstOct 05 00:41
schestowitzif you throw a gnomeOct 05 00:41
schestowitzso people can walk awayOct 05 00:42
Diablo-D3well its not like it matters what I run on my desktopOct 05 00:42
Diablo-D3but some of the gnome shell features look easily abusable for diabloificationOct 05 00:42
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sebsebsebhiOct 05 00:43
Diablo-D3triplesebOct 05 00:43
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: hiOct 05 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Running #XFCE for a a bit. First time in about 10 years. It's hardly evolving, but it's super-fast.Oct 05 00:46
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Intel-N2600-N2800-D2500-D2700/?kc=rssOct 05 00:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intel unveils smaller, power-sipping Atoms - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 61.14 KBOct 05 00:47
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjF2D6XqKPw&feature=digest_refresh_friOct 05 00:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: F*CK WALL STREET       - YouTube .::. Size~: 107.51 KBOct 05 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: Paragraph 29 by the Italian government threatens Wikipedia and the entire web: ur1.ca/5apm6Oct 05 01:11
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USiaeXzYkOE&NR=1Oct 05 01:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will it Blend? - iPad 2       - YouTube .::. Size~: 93.85 KBOct 05 01:14
Diablo-D3heh, yes, it will blend if you can get the damned thing to fitOct 05 01:24
Diablo-D3seriously, 10 inches? now I know what some women Ive dated feel likeOct 05 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Camp FEMA: American Lockdown - FULL MOVIE - 86 min - YouTube - #usa #policestate #wwii http://ur1.ca/5aubjOct 05 01:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Camp FEMA: American Lockdown - FULL MOVIE - 86 min       - YouTube .::. Size~: 93.06 KBOct 05 01:26
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84422108Oct 05 01:26
TechrightsBot-tr@Johnny Null (johnnynull)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-11 00:06:51 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz yeah, sometimes moving slowly is best. Still modular, still rock solid. Will be interesting to watch Rodent.Oct 05 01:27
schestowitzOct 05 01:27
schestowitzsome say it is better than gnome3. i don't think so but each to his poison Oct 05 01:27
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/566836Oct 05 01:27
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 05 01:27
schestowitzDiablo-D3: why? you fist your girlfriends?Oct 05 01:27
Diablo-D3the implication is I have a 10 inch dick.Oct 05 01:28
schestowitzno, that's your arm's lengthOct 05 01:29
Diablo-D3my arm is much longer than 10 inches dudeOct 05 01:30
schestowitzso you can use an iPad2 then..Oct 05 01:30
Diablo-D3you lost meOct 05 01:30
schestowitzyou're obsessed with bringing up prick sizes in IRCOct 05 01:31
schestowitzNot the first timeOct 05 01:31
schestowitzand it's sillyOct 05 01:31
schestowitz!google wetherman youtube 9 inchOct 05 01:32
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - WeatherMan show off his dick cock LIVE ( Pete bouchard 9 inches ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DmOrnJ5LUjiQOct 05 01:32
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - weatherman anxiety fail freak out - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DdNc21FrbkbEOct 05 01:32
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - WHDH weatherman inches into some trouble - Boston Herald | http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/news/mediaBiz/index.php/2010/01/21/whdh-weatherman-inches-into-some-trouble/Oct 05 01:32
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Nine Inch Weatherman Update: The Takedown - Bostonist | http://bostonist.com/2010/02/04/nine_inch_weatherman_update_the_tak.phpOct 05 01:32
Diablo-D3but why else would an ipad be 10 inches if not to be compared to dick sizes?Oct 05 01:32
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schestowitzno, the 7 inch tablets get those chucklesOct 05 01:33
Diablo-D3why? 5 and 7 inch tables are rather normal sizedOct 05 01:34
schestowitzthe classic joke would say somwthing like 6 inchOct 05 01:34
Diablo-D3ipads are clearly for dickless moronsOct 05 01:34
schestowitzrather:Oct 05 01:34
schestowitzpeople who choose iPad for the brandOct 05 01:34
schestowitzdeserve no penisOct 05 01:34
schestowitzThe joke would goOct 05 01:34
schestowitzit would just go away like a tail.. as a process of iEvolutionOct 05 01:35
schestowitzfeminisation of the Apple speciesOct 05 01:35
Diablo-D3hehOct 05 01:35
schestowitzeventually they'll all become sissyOct 05 01:35
schestowitzAnd speak like people speak in the apple storeOct 05 01:36
schestowitzI have this Linux channel that I watcghOct 05 01:36
schestowitzAnd this guy explined why he quit appleOct 05 01:36
schestowitzAnd he said it was this couplem of guys he saw at the temple chatting (Apple Store)Oct 05 01:36
schestowitzsome psople buy computer gear like they buy clothesOct 05 01:38
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84422205Oct 05 01:38
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-11 00:19:41 UTC - Identi.ca: Links 4/10/2011: Parted Magic 6.7, Red Hat’s Latest Takeover, Fedora 16 Beta http://is.gd/xBAhyI #techrightsOct 05 01:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #TimCook, Let's talk.... Seriously, is that the #4S? snail mail app? innovation stalled I would say...Oct 05 01:41
schestowitzhttp://www.bgr.com/2011/10/04/apple-iphone-4s-fails-to-impress-wall-street/#.7518-stage-hero1-11Oct 05 01:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple iPhone 4S fails to impress Wall Street .::. Size~: 86.85 KBOct 05 01:42
schestowitzNo wonder Apple is just suing. It has a MicrosoftMoment{tm}.Oct 05 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] AFISRA debuts one-of-a-kind cryptologic display - #ussr #crypto #coldwar http://goo.gl/GrI2COct 05 01:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] pre-release plasma active meego image up for testing: http://ur1.ca/5auhvOct 05 01:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AFISRA debuts one-of-a-kind cryptologic display .::. Size~: 36.69 KBOct 05 01:43
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Jx233WXICpAOct 05 01:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will it Blend - Kinect for Xbox 360       - YouTube .::. Size~: 90.52 KBOct 05 01:48
schestowitzlame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7TK_8RiVj8&NR=1Oct 05 01:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will It Blend? - Justin Bieber       - YouTube .::. Size~: 90.56 KBOct 05 01:48
schestowitzit has gotten repetitiveOct 05 01:48
schestowitzwatched all the types...Oct 05 01:49
schestowitzthis is crap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na5MS9HgQHk&NR=1Oct 05 01:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will it Blend? - Paintballs       - YouTube .::. Size~: 94.47 KBOct 05 01:49
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CJHHSArZQk&feature=relmfuOct 05 01:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will It Blend? - Noodle (Facebook contest finale)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 88.84 KBOct 05 01:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] SurvivalMedicine #13 -- Med Shelf Life - YouTube - #preppers http://ur1.ca/5auonOct 05 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @qihardware !Milkymist One is available from Sharism Ltd. now, and sells for 499 USD plus shipping from Taipei - http://ow.ly/6MsVJOct 05 02:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Tuesday's !InconstantMoon chapter is online: http://ur1.ca/5ae8l !SelfPubOct 05 02:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Inconstant Moon – 128 .::. Size~: 26.39 KBOct 05 02:08
_GoblinRight...Oct 05 02:09
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_GoblinI think I'm going to nominate De Icazza for: http://www.fsf.org/news/14th-nominationOct 05 02:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nominations are open for the 14th annual Free Software Awards — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 26.83 KBOct 05 02:09
_GoblinDe Icazza FTW.Oct 05 02:10
balzacwhat's goin on here? People are clinging to their digital rights or something?Oct 05 02:10
_Goblin?Oct 05 02:10
balzac#techrights ? What's it all about?Oct 05 02:10
balzacOh I remember. We're all opposed to software patents.Oct 05 02:11
_Goblinand Sprouts.Oct 05 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Before you vote ask: should Ontario keep buying into Nuclear Power? http://ur1.ca/5a2wd !voteON !ONelxn !ONpoli !CDNpoliOct 05 02:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ontario Nuclear Power Debate - 2011 Democracy Week       - YouTube .::. Size~: 81.56 KBOct 05 02:11
balzacAnd our moderator is Roy Schestowitz PhDOct 05 02:12
DaemonFCbalzac: I trust Microsoft to manage my digital rightsOct 05 02:12
DaemonFCI know they can be trusted :)Oct 05 02:12
_Goblinbalzac: no moderation....Oct 05 02:12
_Goblinbalzac: and if there is, I exercise it far more than Roy.... he takes very much a back seat.Oct 05 02:12
balzacI would only trust the code I reviewed myself on some old hardware.Oct 05 02:12
DaemonFCWindows is the only platform that supports licensed Windows Media in HTML 5Oct 05 02:13
DaemonFCso it wins by defaultOct 05 02:13
DaemonFCB-)Oct 05 02:13
_GoblinDaemonFC: thanks for that link earlier...its all sorted now!Oct 05 02:13
DaemonFCwhat link?Oct 05 02:13
_Goblinthe KDE conversationOct 05 02:14
_Goblinthe battleOct 05 02:14
_GoblinI think Ive finally tamed it.Oct 05 02:14
_Goblinafter years of Gnome/Xfce it wasn't easyOct 05 02:14
DaemonFCoh, your 24 hour clock?Oct 05 02:14
_GoblinlolOct 05 02:14
_GoblinyepOct 05 02:14
_Goblinthey are regional you knowOct 05 02:15
_Goblin24hour clocks.......Oct 05 02:15
_Goblin?!?!?Oct 05 02:15
DaemonFCI've never had any reason to careOct 05 02:15
_GoblinNiether had I previously.Oct 05 02:15
DaemonFCnormally if a 24 hour clock is the default I'm looking for the button to push to get rid of itOct 05 02:15
_GoblinI merely right clicked on the time widgetOct 05 02:15
_Goblinon any other DEOct 05 02:15
_Goblinhaving said that....it all seems to be going very well this kde beastieOct 05 02:16
DaemonFCreally the 24 hour clock is wrongOct 05 02:16
_Goblingo onOct 05 02:16
DaemonFCit should be something like the 23 hour and 56 minute clockOct 05 02:16
DaemonFCbut humans are so ridiculousOct 05 02:16
DaemonFCthey demand everything in even unitsOct 05 02:17
DaemonFCGeorge Carlin mentioned this in his tear on the Ten CommandmentsOct 05 02:17
_Goblinthats probably similar debates the KDE devs have....... "users are so ridiculous, why do they demand simple to access/find features?"Oct 05 02:17
_Goblinten?Oct 05 02:18
_Goblinwhy not 7 and a half?Oct 05 02:18
_Goblinyou know....Oct 05 02:18
DaemonFCinstead of using a clock that really measures the length of a day, we insert bandaid fixes like leap years and leap seconds Oct 05 02:18
DaemonFCshit that's just there to fuck with peopleOct 05 02:18
_GoblinI think youre onto something there DaemonFC .... you should write a book or something...Oct 05 02:18
Diablo-D3well 7 is vista and a halfOct 05 02:18
_Goblin;)Oct 05 02:18
Diablo-D3so 8 is... vista and three quarters?Oct 05 02:18
_GoblintrueOct 05 02:18
_Goblinyep, Im liking it....Oct 05 02:19
_Goblinyou listening DaemonFC ?Oct 05 02:19
_Goblinwhy have 2 stereo speakers?Oct 05 02:19
_Goblinwhy not three?Oct 05 02:19
DaemonFCWhen I am king, the day will be 23 hours and 56 minutes long (and however many seconds are needed, I haven't looked that upOct 05 02:19
DaemonFCthere will be no time zonesOct 05 02:19
_Goblinlets give guitars 7 strings....Oct 05 02:19
DaemonFCthere will be Earth Standard TimeOct 05 02:19
DaemonFCwe have this thing called technology nowOct 05 02:20
_Goblincars with 5 wheelsOct 05 02:20
_Goblinno sorry....Oct 05 02:20
DaemonFCand we have no need to live by where the sun is in the skyOct 05 02:20
_Goblin5 is too convenient...Oct 05 02:20
Diablo-D3they make 7 string guitars.Oct 05 02:20
_GoblinDiablo-D3: I was being flippant...Oct 05 02:20
Diablo-D3no, what you need is 13 string guitarsOct 05 02:20
_Goblinnot with a single high e thenOct 05 02:20
_Goblinif you want to be specific..Oct 05 02:20
Diablo-D3or maybe some double necked monstrosityOct 05 02:21
_GoblinohOct 05 02:21
DaemonFCwe'll compromise on which side of the road to drive onOct 05 02:21
_GoblinI have double necked...given as a giftOct 05 02:21
DaemonFCthere will be three lanes but both directions of traffic must use the center laneOct 05 02:21
DaemonFCB-)Oct 05 02:21
Diablo-D3YO DAWG I HEARD YOU LIKE GUITARS, SO I PUT A GUITAR IN YOUR GUITAR SO YOU CAN PAUL GILBERT WHILE YOU PAUL GILBERTOct 05 02:22
_Goblinthis is reminding me of when Holly decimalized music (red dwarf)Oct 05 02:23
balzacwho is that, a musician?Oct 05 02:23
DaemonFCwe don't need guitars or anythingOct 05 02:23
Diablo-D3yes, a very insane oneOct 05 02:23
DaemonFCwe'll just use synthesizers Oct 05 02:24
_Goblinbalzac: no...its a sci-fi comedy show.... Holly was the senile "super computer"Oct 05 02:24
DaemonFCcall it electronicOct 05 02:24
Diablo-D3I think he was asking about paul gilbertOct 05 02:24
Diablo-D3everyone knows who holly isOct 05 02:24
DaemonFCand it doesn't need to have any coherency, it's not supposed toOct 05 02:24
_GoblinlolOct 05 02:24
balzacNot familiar with the showOct 05 02:24
DaemonFCevery radio station will be Daft PunkOct 05 02:24
Diablo-D3bloody hellOct 05 02:24
*Diablo-D3 changes the lightbulb to blueOct 05 02:24
_Goblinor worse than punk.....Oct 05 02:24
_GoblinjazzOct 05 02:24
_Goblinblue alert!Oct 05 02:25
DaemonFClyrics will be replaced by one line repeated over and over againOct 05 02:25
DaemonFCeven jazz is better than countryOct 05 02:25
Diablo-D3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPGA3vjMLgEOct 05 02:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Paul Gilbert - Scarified       - YouTube .::. Size~: 89.14 KBOct 05 02:25
_Goblin" lyrics will be replaced by one line repeated over and over again" - what like in comp.os.linux.advocacy?Oct 05 02:25
DaemonFCI'd listen to Jazz all day long and be like "At least it isn't country"Oct 05 02:25
DaemonFCCountry music is all like Jerry Springer: The MusicalOct 05 02:26
DaemonFCCountry music fans are what you see in Walmart on Saturday nightOct 05 02:26
_GoblinIs that a bad thing?Oct 05 02:26
DaemonFCI just think it's stupidOct 05 02:26
_GoblinahOct 05 02:26
Diablo-D3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYlx5gW90AwOct 05 02:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Paul Gilbert Insane guitar       - YouTube .::. Size~: 85.04 KBOct 05 02:26
DaemonFCstupidity offends meOct 05 02:26
DaemonFCit's one of those "it burns!!!!" things for meOct 05 02:27
DaemonFC_Goblin: Even Dave Lister's choice of music is superior to CountryOct 05 02:28
DaemonFCeven "Colostomy Explosion"Oct 05 02:28
_Goblincome on... there is one country track that was great.....Oct 05 02:28
_Goblinthe one from Grand theft auto (the original)Oct 05 02:29
DaemonFCCountry music is an answer to "What is shittier than pure refined 100% shit?"Oct 05 02:29
_Goblin"Men folk found their women scary.. cause they were so big and hairy...."Oct 05 02:29
Diablo-D3Ive never played gtaOct 05 02:29
_Goblinits a classicOct 05 02:29
DaemonFCI need to bust out San Andreas and play it againOct 05 02:29
DaemonFCSony is never going to have another console as good as the PS2Oct 05 02:30
_GoblinFound it.....yay!Oct 05 02:30
_Goblinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9uQ7qIxAgwOct 05 02:30
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DaemonFCseriously, it was their high water markOct 05 02:30
DaemonFCgood games, 100% backwards compatible with the PS1Oct 05 02:30
DaemonFCthis PS3 is just an amalgam of cost overruns, bad ideas, greed, and to a certain extent, the XBOX 360 is making it worse because it's a lowest common denominator for developersOct 05 02:31
_GoblinPS3 = greatOct 05 02:31
_GoblinSpace Marine = FantasticOct 05 02:32
Diablo-D3already dont like.Oct 05 02:32
DaemonFCyeah, it has Linux, now it doesn'tOct 05 02:32
_Goblinits good...Oct 05 02:32
DaemonFChaha, fooled you!Oct 05 02:32
DaemonFCfuckersOct 05 02:32
DaemonFCthat alone is enough to keep me awayOct 05 02:32
_GoblinDiablo-D3: if you are meaning the country trackOct 05 02:32
Diablo-D3very bad countryOct 05 02:32
DaemonFCeven the Wii can easily be made to run LinuxOct 05 02:32
Diablo-D3nuke it from orbit, its the only way to make sureOct 05 02:32
_GoblinDaemonFC: I never bought it for its other os.....thats what my desktop unit is forOct 05 02:32
DaemonFCNintendo doesn't go out of their way to brick your console for doing it eitherOct 05 02:33
*DaemonFC has a Debian variant on his Wii :)Oct 05 02:33
DaemonFCwell, they oversold the PS3Oct 05 02:33
_GoblinNo, you'll pass out before it has a chance or you'll be seriously injured...(re: WII)Oct 05 02:33
DaemonFCthe idea was that you weren't just buying a toyOct 05 02:33
DaemonFCyou reboot and it's a real computer as wellOct 05 02:34
_GoblinDaemonFC: have you ever seen the WII in the hands of a young family?Oct 05 02:34
_GoblinDaemonFC: its not pleasant...Oct 05 02:34
DaemonFCI just think they went back and robbed everyone who bought a PS3 with that feature being a part of the overall purchasing decisionOct 05 02:34
_GoblinDaemonFC: and its rather dangerous.Oct 05 02:34
DaemonFCwhat if you bought a TV and then the store came back, stole it, and left you a smaller TV with less features?Oct 05 02:35
_Goblinthats fair enough for those people.....I can't though say that it bothered me when it didnt.Oct 05 02:35
DaemonFCthat's what Sony did to every PS3Oct 05 02:35
_GoblinDaemonFC: as I say, I never bought it for the linux.....Oct 05 02:35
_GoblinDaemonFC: I wanted the console for LBPOct 05 02:35
_GoblinDaemonFC: for the wifeOct 05 02:35
DaemonFCI like the Wii just fineOct 05 02:36
DaemonFCtheir failure rate is basically non-existentOct 05 02:37
DaemonFCthe motion controller is gimmicky but niceOct 05 02:37
DaemonFCit's not a tankOct 05 02:37
DaemonFCit doesn't double as a space heaterOct 05 02:37
DaemonFClets see, what else.....Oct 05 02:37
DaemonFCthe performance of the XBOX 360, at its best, was just terribleOct 05 02:38
DaemonFCwith most games in 1080P (even if it's just upscaling them from lower resolutions, which is often, since the space constraint on the discs don't support a lot of huge textures), it's struggling to maintain 30 fpsOct 05 02:38
DaemonFCwhich is just terribleOct 05 02:38
DaemonFCthe PS3 is probably a step up from thatOct 05 02:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Wikipedia shuts down Italian site because of Berlusconi's "Wiretapping Act" http://identi.ca/url/53985766 !effOct 05 02:40
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balzacMy left pinky is about half numb for some reason. I can barely type sometimes.Oct 05 02:41
balzacIt's been like this over a week.Oct 05 02:41
Diablo-D3have a doctor look at it, it could be indicative of a serious disorderOct 05 02:41
DaemonFCbetter hope you're not in the USA, they'll stick a smiley face bandaid on it and send you home with a bill for $10,000Oct 05 02:46
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_Goblinbalzac: I'd guess its a trapped nerve, aggravated by bad posture on the computer....Oct 05 03:07
_Goblinbalzac: its certainly not a symptom of something more serious in my view unless its accompanied by other complaints.Oct 05 03:08
_GoblinI'm thinking RSI too....Oct 05 03:09
_Goblinbalzac: But I suppose to cover myself in the ambulance chasing culture we live it ---> Always refer to your local gp or hospital for advice, never self diagnose nor rely on diagnosis by an online handle called Goblin.Oct 05 03:11
_GoblinThere....I'm covered....If your hand drops off you can't sue me.Oct 05 03:11
_Goblinand with that.... Dr Goblin's surgery is closed for the evening.Oct 05 03:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Business as usual then :) http://ur1.ca/5av1dOct 05 03:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bad Financial News Keeps Pouring In: 14 Facts That Just Might Scare The Living Daylights Out Of You - #collapse http://goo.gl/rrMzXOct 05 03:51
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balzac@_Goblin, yeah, sounds about rightOct 05 04:21
balzacI've been so stressed, I never want to be sitting at a desk.Oct 05 04:21
balzacIt's social media sleep walkers interfering in the most pernicious ways they can think of. Oct 05 04:22
balzacAlright, ttyl guysOct 05 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Look ma... !Canada is famous⇒ Gawker: Canadian Newspaper Runs Full-Page Anti-Gay, Anti-Transgender Ad http://ur1.ca/5avhs !ONpoli !CDNpoliOct 05 04:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #SSL Was Broken by Design - #surveillance #intel http://ur1.ca/5avj9Oct 05 04:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Anonymous Analytics on targeting a company’s share price | FT.com http://goo.gl/YSmlB http://ur1.ca/5avldOct 05 04:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @diablod3 Wikipedia shuts down Italian site because of Berlusconi's "Wiretapping Act" http://identi.ca/url/53985766 !effOct 05 04:58
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DaemonFChttp://www.winsupersite.com/blog/supersite-blog-39/zune-2/microsoft-formally-kills-zune-hardware-140813Oct 05 05:03
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Zune is officially deadOct 05 05:03
DaemonFC"Your device will continue to work with Zune services just as it does today. And we will continue to honor the warranties of all devices for both current owners and those who buy our very last devices."Oct 05 05:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Not the death of a traffic jam I was expecting.Oct 05 05:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rsd “Love is the only sane and satisfactory answer to the problem of human existence.” - Eric FrommOct 05 05:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: © law turns kids into criminals - Reform will enrich artists&public http://bit.ly/reCYtZ do we want to criminalise our future?Oct 05 05:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Itabidi mzoee!Oct 05 05:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Cuando mi hijo era pequeño y no podía dormir, le pedí que cerrara los ojos y fingir. Pronto fue realmente dormido. /via google translateOct 05 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Finally there!Oct 05 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @webmink: LibreOffice Is One - you should switch to it: http://wmk.me/pzhp0R [by me, on CWUK]Oct 05 05:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #iPhone #4S updates bring the iPhone to par with some #Android phones and ( gasp! ) some #Symbian ones as well.Oct 05 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Airtel is 3G in my office cc @eebrah @kelzokoOct 05 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Sent rather urgent emails your way @kelzoko @eebrahOct 05 05:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Now how do I log on to this ncomputing bitch?Oct 05 05:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @eebrah #iPhone #4S updates bring the iPhone to par with some #Android phones and ( gasp! ) some #Symbian ones as well.Oct 05 05:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Morning partner!Oct 05 05:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @q4td “It is expecting too much for a politician to be sincerely interested in the free flow of information.”~Graham Perkins !q !CDNpoliOct 05 06:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Some days. :)Oct 05 06:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma morning!Oct 05 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @marjoleinkOct 05 06:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Tuesday's !InconstantMoon novel serialization chapter is online: http://ur1.ca/5awif !SelfPubOct 05 06:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #Linux #kernel 3.1-rc9 is out http://bit.ly/o4ejUI "[…] not a huge amount of changes […] back in the traditional location […] new key […]"Oct 05 06:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Couldn't have put it any better > http://nd.gd/y9 #Palestine #IsraelOct 05 06:56
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DaemonFChttp://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=rev&revision=101453Oct 05 07:15
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DaemonFCfinally Oct 05 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] You have been memo'd!Oct 05 07:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Doesn't rain it pours!Oct 05 07:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] 60,000 micro-entrepreneurs in 60 months. #thenetivitychallenge cc @eebrah @kelzokoOct 05 07:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] #phonegap to become #apachecallback http://ur1.ca/5awsi -- an interesting tool, which approaches the !b2g idea from the opposite directionOct 05 07:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] #ACTA is now a reality http://ur1.ca/5aw8b !eff !faifOct 05 07:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clacke/@clacke] RT @phunehehe ♻ @arnebab #Wikipedia shuts down Italian site because of Berlusconi's "Wiretapping Act" http://ur1.ca/5auusOct 05 07:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @ufa: Não leve desaforo de empresa. Dê o troco - no blog do @sakamoto http://ur1.ca/5aryyOct 05 07:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fsf: Nominations are open for the 14th annual Free Software Awards -- http://ur1.ca/5asa1 !fsfla !softwarelivreOct 05 07:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nominations are open for the 14th annual Free Software Awards — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 26.83 KBOct 05 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links – ACTA SIGNED! http://ur1.ca/5ax8v #techrightsOct 05 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @schestowitz: Links – ACTA SIGNED! http://ur1.ca/5ax8v #techrightsOct 05 08:16
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/p6gaB.pngOct 05 08:45
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schestowitzChange coiour http://i.imgur.com/O9tTW.pngOct 05 08:46
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schestowitzhttp://i.imgur.com/B6SyJ.jpgOct 05 08:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Every birthday after your 21st http://ur1.ca/5axiaOct 05 08:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patent Evil http://ur1.ca/5axkc #swpats #usptoOct 05 08:58
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schestowitzhttp://news.techworld.com/operating-systems/3307877/ubuntu-one-users-get-windows-client-at-last/Oct 05 09:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "How can technology help people working to uphold human rights in the face of unlawful detention?" http://ur1.ca/5axn2Oct 05 09:06
schestowitzThis implies they are not "Ubuntu users" but WindowsOct 05 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenIDEO - How can technology help people working to uphold human rights in the face of unlawful detention? - Inspiration .::. Size~: 88.92 KBOct 05 09:06
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schestowitz"This is horrible. The shackles of the world just got a lot heavier. " http://joindiaspora.com/posts/568009 Oct 05 09:11
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schestowitza sad day Oct 05 09:11
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/568009Oct 05 09:11
schestowitzACTA passedOct 05 09:11
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schestowitzThe sociopaths wanted itOct 05 09:11
schestowitzAnd they got itOct 05 09:11
schestowitzAs alwaysOct 05 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @schestowitz: Patent Evil http://ur1.ca/5axkc #swpats #usptoOct 05 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Brazil Drafts An 'Anti-#ACTA': A Civil Rights-Based Framework For The Internet - http://bit.ly/pCpohQ we could learn a lot from itOct 05 09:15
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/10/us-signs-international-anti-piracy-accord.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rssOct 05 09:18
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MinceRwell, at least the EU didn't sign it yetOct 05 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Classifying #Patent and #Copyright Law as “Property”: So What? - http://bit.ly/paTjdZ debunking the "IP" trick #intellectualmonopoliesOct 05 09:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear VodafoneDE, if you want to filter and rewrite my traffic, please use some beefy hardware for it. #kthxbaiOct 05 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why I believe AAPL will crumble ... - http://bit.ly/n0pjsR excellent: provocative & thought-provoking #apple #ecosystemsOct 05 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate politician: We want open, online government - http://bit.ly/pIBs7R hmm, not sure that pic quite conveys the right image...Oct 05 09:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firebird 2.5.1 is officially released http://ur1.ca/5axul #databaseOct 05 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Officer accused of terrorizing citizens, still on force - http://bit.ly/n73WLB man in diabetic coma "beaten to a pulp"; disgustingOct 05 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Two bars on 3G.Oct 05 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Nokia Needs #Linux Back, #Elop Out http://ur1.ca/5axwbOct 05 09:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hats off to the Global Text Project! - http://bit.ly/pzP3mf "engaging academic communities to help build library of free online textbooks"Oct 05 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Government Watchdog Report Confirms #Canada's Failures on Tar Sands Monitoring and Climate Action - http://bit.ly/mRBolE on the naughty stepOct 05 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @shakthimaan Complete Comprehensive Open Source Infrastructure and Management Virtualization Platform for the Data Center http://www. ...Oct 05 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @fsf Nominations are open for the 14th annual Free Software Awards -- http://ur1.ca/5asa1 !gnu !linux !fsf !lp !ccOct 05 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] California wants to put #GMO labeling on 2012 ballot - http://bit.ly/ngHjZ1 outrageous that USians aren't allowed to know what they eatOct 05 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “Fossil Fuels Are Wonderful,” Claims U.S. Documentary - http://bit.ly/nqshHM called "Spoiled" - just like the environment #fud #energyOct 05 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kickstarter Hit With #Patent Claim Over Crowd-Funding - http://tcrn.ch/qMgt23 no comment necessary (v @Beautyon_ ) #trollsOct 05 09:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I wonder who in http://ur1.ca/5ay1l is leading this effort with Rice U? iSlate. http://ur1.ca/5ay1mOct 05 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Digital Monopolies A Bigger Threat Than #Piracy, Says Miramax CEO - http://bit.ly/qsrfvo more people get it #copyrightOct 05 09:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @telecomix: Meanwhile in Sweden: Right wing party MP wants the state to fund copyright lobby (swe) http://t.co/QysrtGj3Oct 05 10:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear !choqok - as #twitter started changing all the urls to their own to track users, could we please have choqok show the original urls? :)Oct 05 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] CSS Fonts Module Level 3 Draft Published http://ow.ly/1eYt5tOct 05 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Web applications: discovering and binding to services http://ow.ly/1eYDOJOct 05 10:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Happy 5th Birthday, #Wikileaks - http://rww.to/nU25zJ how time flies when you're having funOct 05 10:13
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schestowitznyt is multi-lingual now? http://nbtimes.it/prime/12480/open-document-format-v1-2-ufficialmente-pronto.htmlOct 05 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Document Format v1.2 ufficialmente pronto - The New Blog Times .::. Size~: 87.34 KBOct 05 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Wikimedia Foundation to Launch #Arabic Catalyst - http://bit.ly/qSunw1 excellentOct 05 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nominations are open for the 14th annual Free Software Awards -- http://is.gd/I64Utd #fsf #freeswOct 05 10:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikimedia blog  » Blog Archive   » Wikimedia Foundation to Launch Arabic Catalyst .::. Size~: 22.06 KBOct 05 10:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nominations are open for the 14th annual Free Software Awards — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 26.83 KBOct 05 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "italian version of Wikipedia...protest against yet another attempt to censor the Internet by the Italian Government." http://is.gd/ypj0YDOct 05 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IBM open sources Blue Spruce to aid medical research - http://bit.ly/o3exDT more pleaseOct 05 10:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikipedia Italia closes up. .::. Size~: 21.07 KBOct 05 10:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IBM open sources Blue Spruce to aid medical research • The Register .::. Size~: 25.23 KBOct 05 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] zdaje się, że Kościół ma ciut za dużo kasy: ur1.ca/5aybf opodatkować Kościół! !polska !atheismOct 05 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU faces down #tarsands industry - http://bit.ly/pYZB2N kudos to European Commission (can't believe I wrote that...) #energy #lobbyingOct 05 10:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Companies like IBM that call code "technology" just further legitmise #swpatsOct 05 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Samsung asks European trademark agency to void #Apple’s iPad design rights - http://tnw.co/r3ttD3 think of the money being wasted hereOct 05 10:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Massive #privacy issue with new #Norway law to tackle #copyright infringement - http://bit.ly/rmk2hm this is seriously bad newsOct 05 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] intredasting. according to my tests, pure file-based cache is *faster* than a nice memcached-based one. ah well, more tests underway !webdevOct 05 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Aww, #Italy, what the hey! You used to be cool! ur1.ca/5ayepOct 05 10:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New UK Banknote Celebrates James Watt, #Patent Bully and Monopolist - http://bit.ly/nLQx81 innovation? not so muchOct 05 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] A robot that can play Angry Birds! http://ur1.ca/5ayibOct 05 10:51
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DaemonFChttp://torrentfreak.com/return-of-the-high-court-and-low-court-111002/Oct 05 10:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Return Of The High Court And Low Court | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 30.36 KBOct 05 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: @janhusar not sure you got your figure right there - 1.3trn sounds more like overall proposed EU budget 201 http://p.ost.im/p/e6FqeJOct 05 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @RobertHarm: #etech11 Public Domain Calculator http://t.co/g98aDVNM Flowcharts for all countries http:/ http://p.ost.im/p/ejc3JwOct 05 10:55
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DaemonFCThe all-new att.net Mail has not been tested with your operating system.Oct 05 10:58
DaemonFCYou can choose to continue anyway, or simply go to att.net Mail Classic.Oct 05 10:58
DaemonFCI thought that's why there were standardsOct 05 10:58
DaemonFCand browsers that do the same thing on every platformOct 05 10:58
DaemonFC:)Oct 05 10:58
DaemonFCschestowitz: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OpPb0-XF-zs/TomiGYGkVcI/AAAAAAAAFac/ffs5fJHksjs/s800/openSuSE_Menu.pngOct 05 11:00
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeOct 05 11:00
DaemonFCIt's not exactly the same as Fedora 16Oct 05 11:00
DaemonFCthere's Mono and the background is greenOct 05 11:00
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DaemonFCand I'm pretty sure a few GNOME 3.2 features don't work without systemdOct 05 11:01
DaemonFC:)Oct 05 11:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] well, yes...Oct 05 11:11
DaemonFCuTorrent is being ported to LinuxOct 05 11:12
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84427674Oct 05 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-11 09:31:22 UTC - Identi.ca: Metaphysical things cannot and should not be a "property". Property rights do not extend to them. #intellectualmonopoliesOct 05 11:12
DaemonFCI didn't even noticeOct 05 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] TDF publishes details of LibreOffice 3.4.3 security fixes: http://bit.ly/penSYy !libo !tdfOct 05 11:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ANNOUNCE: Further upgrades to Cablegate search: http://t.co/5MsZW9mYOct 05 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Venture Capital will dry up, claims http://ur1.ca/5ayw9Oct 05 11:41
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DaemonFChttp://www.ubuntu.com/Oct 05 12:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Homepage | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 34.9 KBOct 05 12:24
DaemonFCnow advertising Skype and Windows 7Oct 05 12:24
MinceRi'm sure monobacon will explain this tooOct 05 12:25
MinceRor at least act indignantOct 05 12:25
DaemonFChttps://one.ubuntu.com/downloads/windows/Oct 05 12:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu One : Downloads : Windows : More Info .::. Size~: 13.41 KBOct 05 12:25
DaemonFChttp://www.ubuntu.com/sites/www.ubuntu.com/files/active/natty-consumer-pages/ubuntuforyou-main.pngOct 05 12:27
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DaemonFChttp://www.ubuntu.com/sites/default/files/active/whyfree/quotesGuardian.pngOct 05 12:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bradley Manning has been detained for 498 days without trial. 1 year, 4 months, 10 days http://t.co/vvEllh5hOct 05 12:28
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DaemonFC“#iuseubuntubecause it allows me to be in full control over my computers: it looks, talks and reacts exactly like I tell it to.”Oct 05 12:30
DaemonFCRadu Cotescu, via TwitterOct 05 12:30
DaemonFCit talks?Oct 05 12:30
DaemonFCI'm sure it does look and act like you tell it to, as long as you tell it to look and act like it doesOct 05 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #Romania: 15 out of 22 non-!freesoftware bugs fixed. So sucess rate of 68% for #pdfreaders in RO http://ur1.ca/5ayey !gnu !fsfeOct 05 12:31
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DaemonFChttp://www.ubuntu.com/sites/www.ubuntu.com/files/active/natty-consumer-pages/overview-fast-quote.gifOct 05 12:32
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/gif typeOct 05 12:32
DaemonFC7 seconds? on what?Oct 05 12:32
DaemonFCnothing I have boots it in less than 30 :)Oct 05 12:32
MinceRSSD?Oct 05 12:32
DaemonFCUbuntu Muslim Remix Oct 05 12:33
DaemonFCIs that the one where Unity Ululates before it explodes and takes out the X server? Oct 05 12:34
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DaemonFChttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/DerivativesOct 05 12:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DerivativeTeam/Derivatives - Ubuntu Wiki .::. Size~: 52.65 KBOct 05 12:35
MinceRit's the one where they advertise yet another set of superstitions from the bronze ageOct 05 12:35
MinceRlike the christian versionOct 05 12:36
DaemonFCthey still list Linspire and Freespire, which don't existOct 05 12:36
DaemonFCIchthux - Kubuntu for Christians Oct 05 12:38
DaemonFCThere's something for you MinceROct 05 12:38
DaemonFChttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives/Ubuntu%20Satanic%20EditionOct 05 12:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DerivativeTeam/Derivatives/Ubuntu Satanic Edition - Ubuntu Wiki .::. Size~: 8.5 KBOct 05 12:42
DaemonFCisn't that the one they threatened with legal notices to stop using the Ubuntu name and trademarks?Oct 05 12:42
MinceRafaik it isOct 05 12:44
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=21283Oct 05 12:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Add a ‘Force Quit’ Applet to Ubuntu’s Unity Launcher | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 86.13 KBOct 05 12:45
DaemonFCfinally, something you can use, a lotOct 05 12:45
DaemonFC:)Oct 05 12:45
MinceR:>Oct 05 12:47
MinceRuntil it crashes, that isOct 05 12:47
DaemonFCno, Unity has this neat featureOct 05 12:49
DaemonFCwhen it crashes every hour or less, it automatically restarts itself, minus all your unsaved workOct 05 12:49
DaemonFCB-)Oct 05 12:49
DaemonFCI would call it Windows Vista but that would just insult Windows VistaOct 05 12:50
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=21324Oct 05 12:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Native Netflix Client Coming to Linux ‘In The Next 12 Months’ | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 85.17 KBOct 05 12:52
DaemonFCSteam is coming to Linux: Netflix EditionOct 05 12:52
DaemonFCthis guy I don't name tells me that they might have something in a year, but they're not actually committed to it and it will probably blow overOct 05 12:53
DaemonFClet me post it as factOct 05 12:53
DaemonFC:)Oct 05 12:53
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=21432Oct 05 12:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adobe Flash 11 Released, Ready for Download | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 64.11 KBOct 05 12:55
DaemonFC"And nobody is 'switching to Arch™'? "Oct 05 12:55
DaemonFCMe: "No, the rest of us know how to mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and can't be bothered spending 12 hours installing a Linux distribution with no signed packages support. :) "Oct 05 12:55
DaemonFCwhere do they find these people?Oct 05 12:56
MinceR:>Oct 05 12:57
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=21041Oct 05 12:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME 3′s Default Wallpaper – Ubuntu Style | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 69.59 KBOct 05 12:57
DaemonFCsome more default wallpaper porn for schestowitz to linkOct 05 12:57
DaemonFC:DOct 05 12:57
DaemonFCI wouldn't mind running GNOME Shell on Ubuntu but a lot of those stupid Unity things bleed overOct 05 12:58
DaemonFClike overlay scrollbarsOct 05 12:58
DaemonFCif you ask how to decontaminate it (like I watched someone do on Ubuntu Forums), you get the standard "zomg just use Windows already!!!!111"Oct 05 13:00
DaemonFCalways the sign that you've picked the right distributionOct 05 13:00
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=21441Oct 05 13:01
MinceRthe only thing from gnome3 i care about now is the SSB capability of the new EpiphanyOct 05 13:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Mono Set As Terminal Font in Ubuntu 11.10  | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 53.82 KBOct 05 13:01
MinceR:>Oct 05 13:01
DaemonFCThis font is unreadableOct 05 13:01
DaemonFCit hasn't made its way to Kubuntu but I'll set it back to monospace if it doesOct 05 13:01
DaemonFCUbuntu Mono font makes letters look crammed togetherOct 05 13:03
Diablo-D3that poor botOct 05 13:06
Diablo-D3why does it keep outputting page titles like that? no one has given it any urlsOct 05 13:07
MinceRperhaps you have whoever wrote the url on ignoreOct 05 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Official GNOME Shell Extensions Available In The WebUpd8 GNOME 3 PPA For Ubuntu 11.10 http://identi.ca/url/53992331Oct 05 13:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Official GNOME Shell Extensions Available In The WebUpd8 GNOME 3 PPA For Ubuntu 11.10 ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 69.4 KBOct 05 13:08
DaemonFChttp://pastebin.com/8Vk4YwbpOct 05 13:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Perhaps Diablo-D3 is just an idiot.  - Pastebin.com .::. Size~: 13.19 KBOct 05 13:09
DaemonFC:)Oct 05 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] ACTA has been signed into law, why does the US support corporate #terrorism? http://identi.ca/url/53989297Oct 05 13:10
MinceR:>Oct 05 13:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US signs ACTA .::. Size~: 32.5 KBOct 05 13:10
Diablo-D3well whoevers doing that, stop abusing the botOct 05 13:11
Diablo-D3no one gives a shit about your ubuntu obsessionOct 05 13:11
MinceRthey're not abusing the bot, they're talking about something and linkingOct 05 13:15
MinceRthe bot is being helpful by telling us what's behind the linkOct 05 13:15
Diablo-D3maybe the bot should ignore him tooOct 05 13:15
MinceRif someone ignores someone, they should expect that sometimes they'll see only half of a conversation or bot replies to things he doesn't seeOct 05 13:15
MinceRor you could ignore the bot as wellOct 05 13:15
Diablo-D3I dont spam  a dozen urls in 10 minutesOct 05 13:16
DaemonFCthat's why /ignore is ridiculousOct 05 13:20
DaemonFCand I use it sparinglyOct 05 13:20
MinceRi wanted to write a script that instead of ignoring presents such lines in darkgray, but never got around to writing itOct 05 13:20
DaemonFChow about one that translates to lolcatOct 05 13:21
DaemonFCat least that way you have something to enjoyOct 05 13:21
MinceRthat wouldn't help me visually ignore the lines while being aware of their presence :>Oct 05 13:21
DaemonFCBanshee 2.2 is outOct 05 13:22
DaemonFCcollective yawn timeOct 05 13:22
DaemonFCzomgemusicstoreOct 05 13:22
Diablo-D3that requires unlazying.Oct 05 13:22
DaemonFCthis is the same shit that pays to be in WinampOct 05 13:22
DaemonFCthe thing that never has any decent musicOct 05 13:22
DaemonFChas mono gotten much smaller or something?Oct 05 13:24
DaemonFCAfter this operation, 42.6 MB of additional disk space will be used.Oct 05 13:24
DaemonFCif I was to install BansheeOct 05 13:24
DaemonFCI don't have MonoOct 05 13:24
iophkDaemonFC: banshee is problem because it has been injected into Ubuntu's default setup.Oct 05 13:26
DaemonFCwho cares?Oct 05 13:26
DaemonFCUbuntu has more problems than thatOct 05 13:26
MinceRthe problem is that ubuntu is one of the most widely used distrosOct 05 13:26
iophkIMHO it is a problem that contributes to other problems.Oct 05 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 3.1-rc9 http://ur1.ca/5azprOct 05 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel prepatch 3.1-rc9 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.9 KBOct 05 13:26
MinceRinjecting a mono-dependent application and mono itself into the default setup makes many unknowing users dependent on m$'s patent/api trapOct 05 13:27
iophkIt affects the desirability of the distro and thus people's willingness to work on it / for itOct 05 13:27
DaemonFCMono was already in UbuntuOct 05 13:27
DaemonFCsuch critical things as a note widgetOct 05 13:27
DaemonFCand gbrainyOct 05 13:27
iophkNot in the default until recentlyOct 05 13:27
DaemonFCno, it's been in the default install for some time nowOct 05 13:28
iophktime passesOct 05 13:28
MinceRyes, tomboy is another part of the problemOct 05 13:28
Diablo-D3well noOct 05 13:29
Diablo-D3who the fuck uses notes apps like that to begin with?Oct 05 13:29
Diablo-D3I tried using that tomboy clone that that guy wrote because he just hates monoOct 05 13:29
Diablo-D3the problem is...both apps are identically clunky and uselessOct 05 13:29
MinceRi don't, i just use gvim+DotOutlineTreeOct 05 13:29
iophkTomboy drags down the overall quality of the distro, not just because of mono.Oct 05 13:31
iophkThere's a way of thinking that goes with M$ / MonoOct 05 13:31
DaemonFCI'm not sure how Banshee is a trapOct 05 13:32
DaemonFCit's not like all is lost if Microsoft sues and we lose...BansheeOct 05 13:33
iophkIt uses monoOct 05 13:33
Diablo-D3iophk: tomboy has an identical clone written in COct 05 13:33
Diablo-D3so its not actually an issueOct 05 13:33
iophkRight. it's called GnoteOct 05 13:33
Diablo-D3yeah thatOct 05 13:33
Diablo-D3its just... .blaaarghOct 05 13:33
Diablo-D3why clone a shitty appOct 05 13:33
Diablo-D3I dont get itOct 05 13:33
iophkBetter are Basket, Knote, ZimOct 05 13:33
iophkgnote/tomboy are bad apps periodOct 05 13:33
MinceRDaemonFC: banshee and tomboy are m$'s foot in the doorOct 05 13:33
iophkIn more ways than one.Oct 05 13:34
MinceRsince they're in, they justify adding more mono apps with it, without counting the size of the runtime (though they might not have counted that before either)Oct 05 13:34
iophkIt's a foot in the door for the M$ way of thinking.Oct 05 13:34
iophkI should probably move to FedoraOct 05 13:35
MinceRthat's what i did :)Oct 05 13:35
iophkI suspect that Mono drove many from Ubuntu to Fedora.Oct 05 13:36
DaemonFCdoubtfulOct 05 13:36
iophkThen why the decrease in Ubuntu?Oct 05 13:36
DaemonFCUnity maybeOct 05 13:37
DaemonFC:)Oct 05 13:37
iophkBefore Unity.Oct 05 13:37
DaemonFCdistributions come and goOct 05 13:37
DaemonFCI doubt Canonical will be doing well in 10 years, if they exist at allOct 05 13:38
iophkRight, but some actions can accelerate the decline.Oct 05 13:38
iophkIMHO use of mono is a major factor.Oct 05 13:38
DaemonFCthey picked a bad target audienceOct 05 13:38
DaemonFCone there's almost no money inOct 05 13:38
iophkToo bad.  I like APT better than RPM.Oct 05 13:39
DaemonFCit doesn't matter how many users you have if none of them pay you anythingOct 05 13:39
DaemonFCit's why Mandriva is where they areOct 05 13:39
DaemonFCand lucky they didn't go out of business like all the others that tried going after home user desktopsOct 05 13:39
MinceRrpm is not the counterpart to apt. yum is.Oct 05 13:39
MinceR(and some others, like urpmi -- but fedora uses yum with rpm)Oct 05 13:39
iophkyum is an improvementOct 05 13:40
DaemonFCthey're roughly the sameOct 05 13:40
MinceRyum has some nice features missing from apt, such as package groupsOct 05 13:40
MinceRi suspect the converse is also trueOct 05 13:40
DaemonFCthe commands are differentOct 05 13:40
iophkthe function of the commands are a little different, tooOct 05 13:41
MinceRbtw, there's also apt-rpm in at least one distroOct 05 13:42
*Diablo-D3 goes to bedOct 05 13:46
Diablo-D3night allOct 05 13:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] HDMI cable shopping with @eebrahOct 05 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @johnfmoore !GovInTheLab UK: Conservative Party gives up party political broadcast http://bit.ly/pGsWobOct 05 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Nominations sought for the 14th FSF Free Software Awards http://ur1.ca/5b071Oct 05 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Check out the most beautiful thing on the web http://b1t.it/FUjOct 05 14:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Awesome! Upgrading !arch and I'm getting !gnome 3.2Oct 05 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if yer band is dead & part of history, become a #patent bully http://goo.gl/ApshK #Journey #KickstarterOct 05 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] perhaps bands should use #Kickstarter instead of #ArtistShare to send the message to this jackass that #patent bullying ain't coolOct 05 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The iPhone 4S: #Apple grows its walled garden http://gu.com/p/32ckb turn loyalty into controlOct 05 14:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The iPhone 4S: Apple grows its walled garden | Dan Gillmor | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 254.72 KBOct 05 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] try http://ur1.ca/5anp4 .. apparently he replaced the old broken screencast with a new entry :)Oct 05 14:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Be there in a fewOct 05 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It's kind of weird that Mark Pilgrim bothered to delete his Identi.ca account.Oct 05 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @telecomix: Telecomix supports Operation Occupy Wall Street!! http://t.co/N2RyNKvVOct 05 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Success: Barbie and Mattel drop #deforestation! - http://bit.ly/oTQgv1 ah, isn't that just so *sweet*? #packagingOct 05 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @hackerspacepl: Warsaw Hackerspace meeting! Tomorrow, 7pm at Instytut Tele- i Radiokomunikacji, ul. Długa 44/50. Bring friends and beer :)Oct 05 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Creating a web literate planet (summary) - http://bit.ly/oEQujY a great idea, I think - provided we drop the badges... #mozillaOct 05 15:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @glynmoody Creating a web literate planet (summary) - http://bit.ly/oEQujY a great idea, I think - provided we drop the badges... #mo ...Oct 05 15:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Thanks! All little patches though -- hoping to work on something more substantial soon...Oct 05 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New $60 Aakash Promises To Kick-Start Indian #Tablet Market - http://bit.ly/qAQPJx based on #androidOct 05 15:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @usman Introducing #CSS shaders: Cinematic effects for the web. http://adobe.ly/po6fZ4 #css3 #html5 #web #kickassOct 05 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] anyone running Replicant, SHR or any other Free OS on an HTC Magic willing to share recommendations?Oct 05 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Princeton Tells Its Academics Not to Hand Over #Copyright When Publishing In Scholarly Journals - http://bit.ly/rgoYu1 big #openaccess winOct 05 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Princeton Tells Its Academics Not to Hand Over #Copyright When Publishing In Scholarly Journals - http://bit.ly/rgoYu1 big #opOct 05 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pay-Per-View Science for the Scholarly Poor is unacceptable: immoral, unethical and encourages bad science - http://bit.ly/oPTOMA yupOct 05 16:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Well, except for ours. Our monopolies are OK and not a threat. ???Oct 05 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You mean, forcing our application to use an HTTPS mode we didn't design in doesn't work smoothly? Whodathunkit?!Oct 05 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] We're fine with HTTPS; it's just hard to make it work with load-balanced machines. We've never had time to make it work.Oct 05 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #India launches "world's cheapest" #tablet computer - #gnulinux #floss http://goo.gl/wMaAJOct 05 16:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #neptune78 Thank you!Oct 05 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Urgent crowd-source request: social media, privacy & super-injunctions - http://bit.ly/oDfuTy "for written evidence to the Joint Committee"Oct 05 16:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] LibreOffice 3.4.3 includes important security fixes - best go get it if you have OpenOffice or LibreOffice: http://wmk.me/oy67oDOct 05 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @tlhote French presidential election poll favorite, not so sure about dropping #Hadopi 3 strikes goo.gl/FWq1X >>quelle honteOct 05 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Simple LightDM Manager: Change The LightDM Background Or Logo Using A GUI http://identi.ca/url/53994680Oct 05 17:16
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iophkxhttp://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/05/politics/occupy-wall-street/Oct 05 17:17
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iophkhttp://gcn.com/articles/2011/09/29/ecg-samsung-and-microsoft-partner-for-android-patent-deal.aspx?s=gcndaily_031011&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitterOct 05 17:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Politics is out of my system for now. Time to get back to !amwriting !listening to Aló Django http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/61449Oct 05 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] cameras in cars pointing at it's occupants? http://goo.gl/lvyO3 the #US takes another step towards becoming a #PoliceStateOct 05 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New US Postal Service Ad Campaign: Email Sucks, So Mail Stuff Instead http://goo.gl/dQ9PF lol equally predictable & patheticOct 05 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Wilderness Water Purification: The 5 Contaminants You Need to Know About | Paul Kirtley's Blog - #preppers #bushcraft http://goo.gl/I4yBcOct 05 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] German #Pirates on 8% - http://bit.ly/oNtkwi this is getting interesting; wonder when the politicians will notice? #deOct 05 17:56
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schestowitzNothing crashed and burned todayOct 05 18:00
schestowitzI didn't make any posts or anythingOct 05 18:00
schestowitzBut I have the next 8 hours or so mostly freeOct 05 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Net Neutrality: the Plum report on the Open Internet - http://bbc.in/mY7U9o commissioned by BBC, but looks sensible #opennessOct 05 18:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Oh wow, what a wonderful looking day!Oct 05 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/5b267Oct 05 18:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] welcome setup for plasma active one -> http://ur1.ca/5b29z hot! check out how fast the video pops :)Oct 05 18:20
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/73418.htmlOct 05 18:36
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schestowitz_Goblin: are you around? Maybe we can record (I sure can)Oct 05 18:36
schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-20115761-93/google-senior-management-not-using-google/?tag=cnetRiverOct 05 18:45
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schestowitzthey don't hire idiots?Oct 05 18:46
MinceR:>Oct 05 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Speak 4 urself, @JimCarrey Chances are excellent that they won't even be able to see your site b/c its locked behind proprietary software :(Oct 05 18:46
MinceRonly to develop google earthOct 05 18:47
schestowitzGoogle developed it?!Oct 05 18:47
schestowitzIt bought itOct 05 18:48
MinceRthen maybe they don't hire idiotsOct 05 18:48
MinceRthen again, google earth did get worse after i first tried itOct 05 18:48
schestowitzTHey buy someOct 05 18:49
MinceRwhich is why i got rid of itOct 05 18:49
schestowitzI never install itOct 05 18:49
schestowitzit crashs kwin for me once or twice in 2008Oct 05 18:49
schestowitzThat was enoughOct 05 18:49
schestowitzyou install it, your find your house, then go mehOct 05 18:49
schestowitzalso, street view is web-based nowOct 05 18:49
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koolhead17hey allOct 05 19:04
koolhead17Kryczek: schestowitz Oct 05 19:05
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84434223Oct 05 19:06
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-11 17:55:03 UTC - Identi.ca: The $35 #android tablet, a snip at $50 http://ur1.ca/5b2oz #india #linuxOct 05 19:06
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: The $35 android tablet, a snip at $50 • The Register .::. Size~: 27.02 KBOct 05 19:06
MinceRkoolhead17: schestowitz!Oct 05 19:07
koolhead17schestowitz dude its a Chinese  shit  costs more than 50$ :)Oct 05 19:07
schestowitzchinese products are not ***Oct 05 19:08
schestowitzlots of stuff is made thereOct 05 19:08
MinceRpft, resistive touchscreenOct 05 19:08
schestowitzeven Apple's "i" ****Oct 05 19:08
MinceRalmost all stuff is made in chinaOct 05 19:08
schestowitzwe make... orderOct 05 19:08
schestowitzwe make... ordersOct 05 19:08
schestowitzWe order them to manufacture MOAROct 05 19:08
MinceRIn Soviet Russia, order makes YOU!!Oct 05 19:08
schestowitzAnd we order products, ship them in containersOct 05 19:09
schestowitzIN ORDER!Oct 05 19:09
MinceRon the upside, that tablet runs a free software version of android, apparentlyOct 05 19:09
MinceRor at least largely freeOct 05 19:09
schestowitzdoes it? Well, it's for schools..Oct 05 19:09
schestowitzkoolhead17: coming near youOct 05 19:10
schestowitzit does't explode like iPhones, don't worryOct 05 19:10
MinceRthat's what she said.Oct 05 19:10
schestowitz3 hours battery lifeOct 05 19:10
schestowitzthat doesn't pack much explosive powerOct 05 19:10
koolhead17schestowitz heheheOct 05 19:10
schestowitzMinceR: how about an iPhone bomb?Oct 05 19:10
MinceRit's unreliableOct 05 19:10
schestowitzYou pack thousands of those piece of rubbish and assume one will explodeOct 05 19:10
MinceRyou can't know when it will blow upOct 05 19:11
schestowitziChain reactionOct 05 19:11
koolhead17the thing is its fucking indian economyOct 05 19:11
schestowitzApple fans could use that to bomb FSF's HQ in BostonOct 05 19:11
schestowitzfor dissing rheir churchOct 05 19:11
schestowitz[19:11] <MinceR> you can't know when it will blow upOct 05 19:12
schestowitzThat's Apple's featureOct 05 19:12
schestowitzJust put 10 bumbers on it, to bushion the ear if it doesOct 05 19:12
schestowitz*bumpersOct 05 19:12
schestowitz*cusionOct 05 19:12
schestowitzcushion evenOct 05 19:13
schestowitzSteve Blows: no explosion resistance? Use other hand, buy a bumper or get one free from our churchOct 05 19:13
MinceRalso known as the GlassCrackerOct 05 19:14
schestowitzin iPocalyse Jobs starts counting your iProducts (good deed) and determines if you're left behind in the iRaptureOct 05 19:14
MinceRwill they also sell iScream?Oct 05 19:15
schestowitzLegentds say 1 trillion iphones will fall from the sky... the defective onesOct 05 19:15
MinceR(only in Kool-Aid flavor)Oct 05 19:15
schestowitzAnd they'll explode randomly over time, like land minesOct 05 19:15
schestowitziPad is more explosive, a child could lose a limb from itOct 05 19:15
schestowitzIt'll be like HellOct 05 19:15
schestowitzMeanwhile, gooddoers will hang out on the iCloud getting free bumpers for eternityOct 05 19:16
schestowitznew http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/100411-novell-qa-251556.htmlOct 05 19:17
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schestowitzSounds like "new Microsoft"Oct 05 19:18
schestowitznew anything means that the old suckedOct 05 19:18
schestowitzand the new will suck tooOct 05 19:18
schestowitzGood things don't need newsOct 05 19:18
schestowitzcase of point: hypePhone4AssOct 05 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jordigh/@jordigh] Man, !Octave stable release is abou to happen. Exciting!Oct 05 19:20
MinceRmeet the new novell, same as the old novellOct 05 19:21
MinceRthat interview revealed nothingOct 05 19:24
MinceRhm, better name for the bumper: iSeeCracksOnTheGlassOct 05 19:25
schestowitzMinceR: it insinuates changeOct 05 19:26
schestowitz"Honey, give me another chance"Oct 05 19:26
schestowitzMicrosoft evoked "new Microsoft" after all the crimesOct 05 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Leading GNU/Linux Desktop Distributions Compared (Mageia, Mandriva)Oct 05 19:26
schestowitzEach time looking for another banner to holdOct 05 19:27
schestowitzWow. Disapora can be a real POS.Oct 05 19:27
schestowitzMakes me cuss at the screen sometimesOct 05 19:27
schestowitzhttp://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2011/10/flashless-future.htmlOct 05 19:31
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schestowitzIs it just me, or is the page coming up blank?Oct 05 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Message for Protestors on Wall Street: We Need a Distributist Economy (via @LucianSavluc )http://ur1.ca/5b4gs #ows #ny #revolutionOct 05 19:31
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MinceRit's not just youOct 05 19:32
schestowitzI thought maybe the page was just one massive flash object :>Oct 05 19:32
schestowitzwouldn't *that* be ironic?Oct 05 19:32
MinceRallowing scripts lets it load a page with textOct 05 19:32
MinceRbloat-tasticOct 05 19:32
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schestowitzSome sites are designed not to work with JSOct 05 19:36
schestowitzSome of them auto-redirect to a junk page if you doOct 05 19:36
schestowitzDisregard for standardsOct 05 19:36
schestowitzBut there's no law against that :-)Oct 05 19:36
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sebsebsebhiOct 05 19:36
MinceRhayOct 05 19:36
schestowitzahoyOct 05 19:37
MinceRyarrOct 05 19:37
schestowitzsebsebseb: behead all those who insult konqueror /sarcasmOct 05 19:37
sebsebsebMinceR: schestowitz hiOct 05 19:37
sebsebsebschestowitz:  Oh?Oct 05 19:37
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/parbg.jpgOct 05 19:37
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sebsebsebschestowitz: I don't think that many people use Konqueror anymore, but yeah it's goodOct 05 19:38
schestowitzMC HAmmerOct 05 19:38
MinceRi occasionally use konquerorOct 05 19:39
schestowitzMsster of ceremony.. didn't envision *that* kind of ceremonyOct 05 19:39
MinceRas a fallback when i can't use firefox :>Oct 05 19:39
schestowitzI'm the opposisteOct 05 19:39
schestowitzBTW, I tied xfce last nightOct 05 19:39
schestowitzqt comes up nicely in itOct 05 19:39
schestowitzand overall it's much fasterOct 05 19:39
schestowitzI just missed some plasma stuffOct 05 19:39
schestowitzI aklso tried openboxKDEOct 05 19:40
schestowitza sort of hybrid in DebianOct 05 19:40
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin  XFCE and LXDE, uhmm no thanks, it's Gnome 2 or Gnome 3 for me and sure might use KDEOct 05 19:40
schestowitzit does window decorators differently, didn't see much difference apart from thatOct 05 19:40
sebsebsebsometimes might use XFCE or LXDE thoughOct 05 19:40
schestowitzI don't always use xfce, but when I do... it's not all that badOct 05 19:41
MinceRthe most interesting user in the world?Oct 05 19:41
MinceRhttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QavdFlgXm1k/Toxvl9FJeJI/AAAAAAAAAfg/FB5-9dcudGU/w439-h514-k/scaled_full_9d74cbfc132462e9dfd0.pngOct 05 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] follow-up to "New UK Banknote Celebrates James Watt, Patent Bully and Monopolist" - http://bit.ly/nijDgs links to monopoly scepticsOct 05 19:45
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_Goblinschestowitz: just got back to keyboard....thursday is ok...tonight Im on and off the computer for various tasksOct 05 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OLPC India head disappointed with govt’s $35 tablet http://is.gd/KpQhPc it's coming... http://is.gd/7grQGaOct 05 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OLPC India head disappointed with govt’s $35 tablet http://is.gd/KpQhPc it's coming... http://is.gd/7grQGaOct 05 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Deep in the heart of TexOS http://is.gd/2G7Svc Ken "Helios" in on a roll. #linux #gnu #texasOct 05 19:46
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_Goblinsebsebseb: KDE is (dare I admit it) far favorable to Gnome 3 for me.Oct 05 19:47
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schestowitz_Goblin: let's do thursdayOct 05 19:47
_GoblincoolOct 05 19:47
schestowitz_Goblin: happy to har fair comparative praise for kdeOct 05 19:47
*sebsebseb according to _Goblin I am a nice guy :DOct 05 19:48
sebsebsebby the wayOct 05 19:48
schestowitznow you can do an article on why you dumped xfce for kde and get heaps of traffic ;-)Oct 05 19:48
schestowitzand thenrise and repear, dump kde for gnomeOct 05 19:48
schestowitzlike BerangerOct 05 19:48
schestowitzpretending to dump linux over and over againOct 05 19:48
sebsebseb_Goblin: you said so in voice :DOct 05 19:48
schestowitzcausing a sceneOct 05 19:48
sebsebsebon yeahOct 05 19:48
schestowitzsebsebseb: you areOct 05 19:48
schestowitz!Google green day nice guysOct 05 19:49
schestowitz!google green day nice guysOct 05 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Nice Guys Finish Last - Green Day (Official Music Video) [HQ ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D1nDq1HoNm-EOct 05 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - GREEN DAY LYRICS - Nice Guys Finish Last | http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/greenday/niceguysfinishlast.htmlOct 05 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Nice Guys Finish Last Lyrics - Green Day | http://www.lyricsfreak.com/g/green%2Bday/nice%2Bguys%2Bfinish%2Blast_20062743.htmlOct 05 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Dailymotion - Green day - nice guys finish last - a Music video | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4fd5_green-day-nice-guys-finish-last_musicOct 05 19:49
schestowitzoh, oopsOct 05 19:49
schestowitz:-pOct 05 19:49
_Goblinschestowitz: I think my overall assessment would be.....(Of KDE):Oct 05 19:49
schestowitzit's KDE SCOct 05 19:49
schestowitzfor desktop i find it goodOct 05 19:49
sebsebsebwell broke my listening to Techbytes in order thing this month heh heh.  since listended to episode 60 before I went on and yeah listended to thatOct 05 19:50
sebsebsebandOct 05 19:50
schestowitzit's also going for phones and tablets now... and apps for other des that support qtOct 05 19:50
sebsebseblistended to the begining of 61 a few times this morning :D very begining, but  yeah next one for me to listen to properly is really the Mac OS X vs Linux episodeOct 05 19:50
schestowitz_Goblin: my voice is back to normalOct 05 19:50
_GoblinKDE: Once you've battled the plethora of options hidden in a myriad of menus, you are given a stable powerful desktop, which makes the investment of time worthwhile....Oct 05 19:50
sebsebsebif going to in order as I say, or pretty much in orderOct 05 19:50
schestowitz_Goblin: yes, can take a bit of timeOct 05 19:51
schestowitzbut worth it afterwardsOct 05 19:51
sebsebseb61?  I meant 62 I think above, the latest episodeOct 05 19:51
schestowitzmy debian machine I customed to act just as I please, you can eeven assign each app type to use one workspace, size, etc. Set once, enjoy foreverOct 05 19:51
schestowitzsaves loads of timeOct 05 19:51
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin Just thought of something since talking about it in my channel, but the WIndows 8 secure boot and Linux stuff, is a lot of that FUD really?Oct 05 19:51
schestowitzsebsebseb: year 2 starts soon... 3 weeks from nowOct 05 19:51
schestowitzwe'll have a new banner, I think. Maybe a redone introOct 05 19:52
_GoblinI'd like to experiment with local recording too...Oct 05 19:52
schestowitzand we'll plan shows betterOct 05 19:52
schestowitz_GureOct 05 19:52
sebsebsebFear Uncertainity and Doubt, so worrying about something to do with tech, worrying about what will happen, not being sure, reading loads of bad stuff?  FUD???Oct 05 19:52
schestowitz_Goblin: sureOct 05 19:52
sebsebsebthat's what FUD is?Oct 05 19:52
schestowitzI wanted to try that tooOct 05 19:52
schestowitzbut then we need to make a high-quality (large) versionOct 05 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Correction: Do not attack NYSE using deprecated (read: DANGEROUS) tools! http://redd.it/l1ie9 !OWSOct 05 19:53
schestowitzif we downsample a good music track, then we have the same problemOct 05 19:53
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schestowitzand monofy theseOct 05 19:53
schestowitz_Goblin: TLLTS and some other shows I know have atrocious sound squality, ours is fairly averageOct 05 19:54
schestowitzblogtv shows have like 8hz samplingOct 05 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @trisquel Our counter just got over 100.000 !Trisquel direct downloads since we started it for the 2.0 release! Keep 'em going!Oct 05 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Newzbin2 Team Up With The Pirate Bay To Defeat Site Blocking - http://bit.ly/nq4LZJ copyright enforcement drives evolution: it's that simpleOct 05 19:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Glossary of #Survival and #Preparedness Acronyms/Terms - #preppers http://ur1.ca/5b5e3Oct 05 19:56
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/vbyyt.jpgOct 05 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another Tablet Takes the Linux+Free Software Route http://is.gd/gIrutd same with the $35 tablet. #linuxOct 05 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] MeeGo becomes Tizen - maybe http://ur1.ca/5b5g1Oct 05 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Food Storage Calculator - #preppers http://ur1.ca/5b5gdOct 05 20:03
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_Goblinschestowitz: We have an interviewee...... a distro dev....Oct 05 20:08
schestowitzExcellent!Oct 05 20:09
_Goblinschestowitz: I'll email the details....suffice to say Im just confirming it with him nowOct 05 20:09
schestowitzhttp://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/2011/10/hyperinflation.htmlOct 05 20:10
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schestowitz"o be fair, it's gotten a lot better than it was in the past. Occasionally, I'll run into some hiccup, but it's been a pretty great platform so far, and the community around here really sells the experience as a positive thing. "Oct 05 20:14
schestowitzhttp://joindiaspora.com/posts/571068Oct 05 20:14
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schestowitzTechrights has a new Microsoft shill in the comments:Oct 05 20:22
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/10/04/windows-live-gallery-is-dead/#comment-130801Oct 05 20:22
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_Goblin"How on earth did you achieve a “doctorate” using this level of critical thinking?"  - I think he's answered his own question..... follow the brainwashing, you end up at Microsoft.....think for yourself, you get a doctorate!Oct 05 20:24
schestowitzYes, it was a funny claim from himOct 05 20:27
schestowitzHe repeated Microsoft PR verbatimOct 05 20:28
schestowitzHead of MS marketing is now from W-EOct 05 20:28
schestowitzThey can lie, it's part of their occuptionOct 05 20:28
schestowitzno shameOct 05 20:28
schestowitzthen they have people lik DrPizza repeat it and it's labelled "news"Oct 05 20:28
schestowitz!google crikey news is prOct 05 20:28
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Crikey -- On politics, media, business, the environment and life | http://www.crikey.com.au/Oct 05 20:28
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Over half your news is spin | Crikey | http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/03/15/over-half-your-news-is-spin/Oct 05 20:28
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Crikey Blogs | http://blogs.crikey.com.au/Oct 05 20:28
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Op-Ed: 55% of Australian news articles sourced from PR firms | http://digitaljournal.com/article/289146Oct 05 20:28
schestowitzsee [4]Oct 05 20:29
MinceRi'm not sure if being brainwashed by m$ prevents one from getting a doctorate, thoughOct 05 20:29
_GoblinMinceR: On the basis that no educated person would believe the crap MS spouts then I say its a very good indicator.Oct 05 20:31
_Goblinremember: MS is the one who thought good PR would be an iPhone funeral as a PR stunt.....Oct 05 20:32
_Goblinwith that type of thinking who needs a doctorate?Oct 05 20:32
MinceRremember, m$ is good at infiltrating organizationsOct 05 20:32
_Goblinthats true....Oct 05 20:32
_Goblinbut then there is no doctorate in dishonesty, so I suppose they are self taughtOct 05 20:33
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MinceRthey also have a lot of money they can bribe universities withOct 05 20:33
_Goblinvery true again.....although they cannot buy the mind of an educated person.Oct 05 20:33
MinceRand even valueless things that don't cost them anything (licenses for extremely shoddy software)Oct 05 20:33
schestowitz_Goblin: if they still have the coffin from that fake funeral, maybew they can fit all the kins they ever sold in it :-)Oct 05 20:34
_Goblinyou could use a shoebox for that.Oct 05 20:34
schestowitzLOLOct 05 20:34
schestowitzmake by one kid in ChinaOct 05 20:34
schestowitzin one monthOct 05 20:34
_GoblinI'd say I've spent more times in my life vomiting then Microsoft sold kins.Oct 05 20:35
schestowitzLOLOct 05 20:35
_Goblinand one could draw a relationship there.....both unwanted both bile.Oct 05 20:35
MinceRone doesn't need to be particularly educated to direct a university. case in point: the university in budapest that's allegedly focused on economics, used to be named after Marx and honored SweatyBOct 05 20:35
schestowitzhonoured with eggs :-)Oct 05 20:36
MinceRno, that was a studentOct 05 20:36
schestowitzMaybe it's a special ritual ij Hungary... eggs are considered holy like cows in IndiaOct 05 20:36
MinceRthe organization decorated himOct 05 20:36
_GoblinI think we should all honour SweatyB.....the mans a legend.... how to take a massively profitable company and flush it down the bog (slowly)....he should write a book.Oct 05 20:36
schestowitz"Hey you!! You're such an egg head!"Oct 05 20:36
MinceRoh, and the rubber-stamping android that's the current president of hungary got his degree from that place tooOct 05 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] The next Ubuntu: P is for... Precise Pangolin! http://ur1.ca/5b5ol #linuxOct 05 20:36
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MinceRhe doesn't even know hungarian wellOct 05 20:37
MinceRhe can't even spell the name of his current job correctlyOct 05 20:37
schestowitzLOLOct 05 20:37
schestowitz!google germany politician plagiarismOct 05 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Second German politician resigns over plagiarism allegations ... | http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,15068482,00.htmlOct 05 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - German School Confirms Politician's Plagiarism - WSJ.com | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704810504576307123104365338.htmlOct 05 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Band of Academic-Plagiarism Sleuths Undoes German Politicians ... | http://chronicle.com/article/Band-of-Academic-Plagiarism/127481/Oct 05 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - German politician loses doctorate for plagiarism | World news | The ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/14/plagiarism-row-jorgo-chatzimarkakis-germanyOct 05 20:37
MinceRthis idiot >> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/P%C3%A1l_SchmittOct 05 20:38
_Goblin"hot under the collar" - A book by the man who failed as a CEO and to find an antipersperant that worked...Oct 05 20:38
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schestowitzMinceR: precedent of hungary /(Stalin)Oct 05 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ur1.ca/5b5t9 A czy to Polska kancelaria prawna jest? To nie patriotyczne Niemcowi dawać zarobić!Oct 05 20:38
MinceRjust an android who signs every paper orban's friends write into lawOct 05 20:38
schestowitz_Goblin: a picture of smelly pits?Oct 05 20:39
schestowitzwith odour shown as steamOct 05 20:39
_GoblinI was thinking more on the lines of a shirt on a hangar outside a shop front saying "closed for business" - that would make a good cover....Oct 05 20:39
sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz Why do you say audiocast not Podcast, remind me?Oct 05 20:40
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYJBISKWrXAOct 05 20:40
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_Goblinwhats a pod?Oct 05 20:40
MinceRa thing peas grow inOct 05 20:40
sebsebseb_Goblin: Apple Ipod?Oct 05 20:40
MinceRfor exampleOct 05 20:40
_Goblintheres your answerOct 05 20:40
MinceRpart of many plantsOct 05 20:40
sebsebseb_Goblin: ok yeah since it's so AppleOct 05 20:40
sebsebsebsaying podcast?Oct 05 20:40
_GoblinyepOct 05 20:40
_Goblinlike hooverOct 05 20:40
_Goblinor domestosOct 05 20:40
sebsebsebyep that's the reason I gave to someone just now in my channelOct 05 20:40
sebsebsebwhy I say audiocast now as wellOct 05 20:40
sebsebsebnot podcastOct 05 20:40
schestowitzaudio broadcastOct 05 20:44
schestowitzor videocastOct 05 20:44
schestowitzwe haven't done that in a while..Oct 05 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is psquid with 51 dents!Oct 05 20:53
schestowitz51 a record in the weekday period?Oct 05 20:55
schestowitzThat indicates decreased activity indeedOct 05 20:56
schestowitzI think it's becoming like diggOct 05 20:56
schestowitzWhere fewer people would start conversations about the newsOct 05 20:56
schestowitzthere was still news in..Oct 05 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Putting girl power into technology - my blog on #womeninICT: http://ow.ly/6O7DX @marthal http://p.ost.im/p/e6Bv3qOct 05 20:56
schestowitzBut not much of a communityOct 05 20:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @larryrusswurm Every election cycle an intolerance scandal strikes the same Canadian party. #humourless http://ur1.ca/5b5xqOct 05 20:58
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cubezzzthinking about getting a tivoOct 05 21:05
schestowitzwhat for? :-)Oct 05 21:11
cubezzzmy computers are too old to record hdOct 05 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MarketWatch has just been made inaccessible without JavaScript. With JS, it puts full page ads... before PRESS RELEASES too.Oct 05 21:11
schestowitz;-)Oct 05 21:12
schestowitzso record in lqOct 05 21:12
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin Oh just read the new name of UbuntuOct 05 21:12
schestowitzUbuntu is struggling at the momentOct 05 21:14
_Goblingo on...what is it....Oct 05 21:14
sebsebseb_Goblin: just saw a dent on IdenticaOct 05 21:15
sebsebsebin the public time lineOct 05 21:15
sebsebseblet's see if I can see that again before it disappearsOct 05 21:15
sebsebseboh lost that dent it seemsOct 05 21:17
sebsebsebanywayOct 05 21:17
sebsebsebMark has annoucned itOct 05 21:17
sebsebsebso he'll have a blog post about itOct 05 21:17
sebsebsebthe 12.04 nameOct 05 21:17
schestowitzIt's justa  nameOct 05 21:18
schestowitzit doesn't mean jackOct 05 21:18
schestowitzI'm sure some journos willclamour and coverOct 05 21:18
schestowitzlike a name is newsOct 05 21:18
sebsebsebIt does mean something to a lot of Ubuntu peopleOct 05 21:18
schestowitzsame bs when Microsoft names a numberOct 05 21:18
schestowitz"next version will ve x+1"Oct 05 21:18
schestowitzNEWS!!Oct 05 21:18
schestowitzWowOct 05 21:18
schestowitzVista 8!!Oct 05 21:18
schestowitzsebsebseb: maybe cause they lack real newsOct 05 21:19
schestowitzSo they start browsing silly wllpapersOct 05 21:19
schestowitzWhich are just jpegs like billions of others on the webOct 05 21:19
schestowitzthey can choose others and are encouraged to do soOct 05 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I was responding to, " I think #identica does not really like HTTPS." We don't dislike HTTPS; just don't support it well.Oct 05 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Foundation has three new joiners http://is.gd/EX7auKOct 05 21:21
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sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz  Precise Pangolin is the new name, and jono has already known for quite a while, I remember his last ustream, and he woudn't tell anyoneOct 05 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Participation among Identica and Twitter members seems to be declining. But people won't dare say it. Opinions?Oct 05 21:23
_Goblinsebsebseb: sounds ok to me...Oct 05 21:24
sebsebseb_Goblin: and he's got a blog post explaining the name as wellOct 05 21:24
_GoblinJust D* it.Oct 05 21:29
_Goblinand G+Oct 05 21:30
_Goblinwith a picture of a PangolinOct 05 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Evening !Identiverse !tzagOct 05 21:33
sebsebseb_Goblin: and I just done a dent about it :DOct 05 21:34
sebsebsebheh hehOct 05 21:34
sebsebsebto do with itOct 05 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: REVIEW: Altitude – Linux flies with multiplayer retro-style plane combat! http://goo.gl/TFysoOct 05 21:38
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/571644Oct 05 21:38
TechrightsBot-tr@: Oct 05 21:38
schestowitz"you mean posting to the different platforms?"Oct 05 21:38
schestowitz"in the case of identi.ca I have to point out that for Android users, Mustard has been buggy for weeks now... hence I'm posting a bit more on Twitter. But I hope it gets fixed soon."Oct 05 21:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: what was you r dent about just now,  Identica not being used as much?Oct 05 21:39
schestowitz"Last year it felt like there were more lively discussions, in a way that's even measurable. While still sharing as many good stories, I just don't seem to be getting as much feedback as before on them. it seems to be applicable to other posters too, some of whom left."Oct 05 21:41
schestowitz_Goblin: if you comp[ared this year to last year\Oct 05 21:41
schestowitzAre you getting less interaction in twitter/identica?Oct 05 21:41
schestowitzsebsebseb: what about you?Oct 05 21:41
_GoblinIve just commented on your Diaspora posting!Oct 05 21:41
_Goblinbut I haven't really monitored it to be fairOct 05 21:42
sebsebsebschestowitz: we already talked about thatOct 05 21:42
sebsebsebto me it seems that since Google+ came alongOct 05 21:42
sebsebseband got quite popularOct 05 21:42
_Goblinsebsebseb: when you coming over to diaspora??Oct 05 21:42
sebsebsebthere has been much less dents on Identica, even though I also unsubscribed to quite a few peopleOct 05 21:42
schestowitz"Oct 05 21:42
schestowitzI haven't monitored it myself, however what I did find was a personal reluctance to engage in conversation due to the 140 char limit. I think Diaspora fills that gap, with all the benefits of Identi.ca and the ability to type what you need.Oct 05 21:42
schestowitzI do however like the new look Identi.ca.....Oct 05 21:42
schestowitz"Oct 05 21:42
sebsebsebschestowitz: also there doesn't seem to be much Linux outlaws stuff on Identica anymore, I think since it's mainly moved to Google+Oct 05 21:42
schestowitzyes, exavctlyOct 05 21:42
sebsebsebschestowitz: used to get a lot of LInux Outlaws stuff coming inOct 05 21:43
sebsebsebby the way I stil haven't heard one of thoseOct 05 21:43
_Goblinfabs moved to G+Oct 05 21:43
sebsebseb_Goblin: yep bingoOct 05 21:43
sebsebsebthat's why so little LInux outlaws stuff on Identica nowOct 05 21:43
_Goblinand I suppose that means Dan will mostly migrate tooOct 05 21:43
sebsebsebschestowitz: and in the time line, I can now keep on going back daysOct 05 21:43
sebsebsebschestowitz: not just one day or two days or so and the 52 pages are all filled upOct 05 21:44
schestowitzThat's just how social networks goOct 05 21:44
_GoblinIve nothing against G+ as a service or from Google.....however I do prefer Diaspora, mainly because of the most important thing being present - Community.Oct 05 21:44
schestowitzYour;'e always ojn the moveOct 05 21:44
schestowitzhopping between shipsOct 05 21:44
sebsebsebwell now it's  like 28 or 31 pages or something instead, since the new time linesOct 05 21:44
schestowitzused to be myspaceOct 05 21:44
schestowitzdigg also used toi be okOct 05 21:44
schestowitzand redditOct 05 21:44
sebsebseb_Goblin: I have had a disapora acocunt for momths it's there stillOct 05 21:44
schestowitzfacebook became a giantOct 05 21:44
sebsebseb_Goblin: just need a password resetOct 05 21:44
sebsebseband could use itOct 05 21:44
_Goblinwhats your username?Oct 05 21:44
sebsebseb,but ehOct 05 21:44
sebsebsebI am happy enough with IdenticaOct 05 21:44
sebsebseb_Goblin: sebsebseb of courseOct 05 21:44
_GoblindogOct 05 21:44
_Goblin*dohOct 05 21:44
sebsebsebIdentica is enough for me for nowOct 05 21:45
sebsebsebI don't erally like social networks muchOct 05 21:45
sebsebseband well yeah I got Facebook as well, but don't use that muchOct 05 21:45
schestowitz_Goblin:  see http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/08/11/social-networks/Oct 05 21:45
sebsebsebas for Googlehype I'll eventaully get an accountOct 05 21:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Social Networks/Content Hosting Always Evolved .::. Size~: 36.12 KBOct 05 21:45
schestowitzI wrote that recentlyOct 05 21:45
sebsebsebjust to have a lookOct 05 21:45
sebsebseb,but it may be like Twitter, hardly adding anyone, and then not really using itOct 05 21:45
_Goblinthere...following you....you better start posting!!!! :)Oct 05 21:45
schestowitzsebsebseb: I don't see much about mageia in news/blogs/identicaOct 05 21:46
sebsebseb_Goblin: well kevie  has it so he sends stuff to both Identica and Disapora some howOct 05 21:46
sebsebsebschestowitz: uh well I am about to dent something on Identica to do with it :DOct 05 21:46
schestowitza bit like libreofficeOct 05 21:46
schestowitzir odfOct 05 21:46
schestowitzsebsebseb: he doesOct 05 21:46
schestowitzhe's a diaspora pimp :-)Oct 05 21:46
schestowitzi brought 2 more users to diaspora so farOct 05 21:47
schestowitzfrom techrightsOct 05 21:47
schestowitzremember gnu social?Oct 05 21:47
schestowitzdidn't seem to have gone anywhereOct 05 21:47
schestowitzI think matt lee (fsf) worked on itOct 05 21:48
sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz I saw some dents on Idetnica about fabsh on Google+ seems to me he doesn't care much about software freedom reallyOct 05 21:48
sebsebsebfrom fabsh about GOogle+Oct 05 21:48
schestowitz_Goblin: when disapora becomes stable, does it stay on joindiaspora.com?Oct 05 21:48
schestowitzit seems like a temporary nestOct 05 21:48
schestowitzis fabsh enjoying g+?Oct 05 21:48
schestowitzor did he go there thinking he'd find a bigger audience?Oct 05 21:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin  as for Mageia stuff, most of it is on TwitterOct 05 21:49
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin and a lot of them don't really care much about IdenticaOct 05 21:49
sebsebsebif at all reallyOct 05 21:49
schestowitzHe's bald now.. https://plus.google.com/105047371315992982745#105047371315992982745/postsOct 05 21:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Proposed legislation threatens free expression and innovation in Italy: https://eff.org/r.D7t #netfreedomOct 05 21:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Italy: Internet press freedom under threat | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 54.78 KBOct 05 21:50
_Goblinschestowitz: thats the "official" pod I assume....I don't think joindiaspora will go anywhere, think Wordpress...they give out their software and host themselves....Oct 05 21:50
_Goblinschestowitz: with the exception being other pods join one big network...Oct 05 21:50
_Goblinschestowitz: thats how I read it.Oct 05 21:50
schestowitz_Goblin looks cooler than fabOct 05 21:50
_Goblinlol...Oct 05 21:51
schestowitzalso has no locksOct 05 21:51
_Goblinnot in a cowboy hatOct 05 21:51
_Goblinmaybe a pirate hatOct 05 21:51
schestowitzhe looked like jaron from microsoftOct 05 21:51
schestowitzthat anti-foss guyOct 05 21:51
schestowitzjaron lanierOct 05 21:51
_Goblinsounds like a sith lordOct 05 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ElizabethMay @natnewswatch Standing by a falsehood is not a sign of leadership. Disturbing and appalling. #VoteON #ONpoliOct 05 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 30 Uncommon Uses for Aluminum Foil | Life Hackery - #preppers http://goo.gl/4ZoSbOct 05 21:51
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_GoblinIve just had a good point raised to me....Oct 05 21:52
_GoblinWhy didn't ubuntu use "Pengiun"Oct 05 21:52
_GoblinPrecise Penguin?Oct 05 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia #Mageia http://ur1.ca/5axhyOct 05 21:53
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schestowitzpenguin is LinuxOct 05 21:54
schestowitzUbuntu is UbuntuOSOct 05 21:54
schestowitzUbuntu 12.04: Proprietary PenguinOct 05 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ooh, spooky. If I navigate to Google+ homepage (I did by accident) they have a form _all filled in_ with my details! Red button says "join".Oct 05 21:55
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84436018Oct 05 21:56
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-11 20:10:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz nice, so I don't even have to set up my browser to block the site like I do with NYT, that's convinience!Oct 05 21:56
schestowitzNYT became a very major nuisance recently with more paywalls/"give us your details" wallsOct 05 21:56
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/84436338Oct 05 21:56
TechrightsBot-tr@حالة lnxwalt280 (lnxwalt280) في يوم Wednesday, 05-Oct-11 20:29:51 UTC - 280: @schestowitz I think several people have moved more of their online presence to #gplus, #diaspora, etc. 140 char is pretty limiting.Oct 05 21:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/trmanco/status/121687848167546880Oct 05 21:59
TechrightsBot-tr@trmanco: @schestowitz People are running to Google Plus...Oct 05 21:59
schestowitz:/Oct 05 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Short URL since the client or how it's set up, but didn't want a short URL, oh well. !Mageia #MageiaOct 05 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Make Your Own Solar Cooker » UberPest's Journal #preppers #bushcraft http://goo.gl/ibVAyOct 05 22:00
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84435066Oct 05 22:01
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-11 19:01:25 UTC - Identi.ca: Free Software Migration Pays Off for #Kerala http://is.gd/xjIU4ZOct 05 22:01
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: The Kerala State Electricity Board Saves a Whopping Rs 8 Crore, Using FOSS – LINUX For You Magazine .::. Size~: 90.15 KBOct 05 22:01
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84434887Oct 05 22:01
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-11 18:53:41 UTC - Identi.ca: #trisquel says: "Our counter just got over 100.000 Trisquel direct downloads since we started it for the 2.0 release! Keep 'em going!"Oct 05 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @telecomix @jerezim: #Brazil government smashes #ACTA on freedoms, privacy, internet! ur1.ca/5b639 What will the #EU Parliament do? #MEPsOct 05 22:01
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/84434522Oct 05 22:02
TechrightsBot-tr@Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-11 18:23:19 UTC - Identi.ca: Leading GNU/Linux Desktop Distributions Compared (Mageia, Mandriva) http://is.gd/Ti3jk7 #Mageia #MandrivaOct 05 22:02
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schestowitzthew identica API doesn't work well with the botOct 05 22:03
schestowitzit misses lots of stuffOct 05 22:03
schestowitzI can't figure out the reason/patternOct 05 22:03
schestowitz"Google may use my information to personalise content and ads on non-Google websites"Oct 05 22:04
schestowitzNice way to say:Oct 05 22:04
schestowitzwe'll build a profile of youOct 05 22:04
schestowitzone you cannot access, see, modifyOct 05 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @carolaik RT @GreenpeaceCA Choose #green energy, not #nuclear! Sign the #Darlington Declaration! http://ur1.ca/5b6jl !ONpoli #ONelxnOct 05 22:05
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schestowitz_Goblin: "Resistance is futile..." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/571834 <<< not when it comes to directories like FBOct 05 22:05
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_Goblinschestowitz: unless of course a "friend" of yours decides to share pictures of you without your consent, you could find yourself a "star" of Facebook without even being a member.Oct 05 22:21
schestowitzI heard soOct 05 22:21
_Goblinschestowitz: worse still, ownership of those images doesn't even belong to your friend anymore.Oct 05 22:21
schestowitzThere are people who make wrong assumptionsOct 05 22:21
_Goblinschestowitz: exploited by proxy.Oct 05 22:21
schestowitze.g. that if they stay low-profile, they'll be invisibleOct 05 22:21
schestowitzMy aunt thought soOct 05 22:22
schestowitzbut then she found out what grandkids do with photos they takeOct 05 22:22
schestowitzit's why many people who are outsiders to FB hate itOct 05 22:22
schestowitzThey are sort of forced to be seen publicly without their controlOct 05 22:22
schestowitzFor people like us who don't hide so to speak, it's not a problemOct 05 22:23
_GoblinIf we agree that a companies stock is its most important asset we can see why nobody is invisible on Facebook...they are the stock...they are all important they are all audited and exploited for maximum profit.Oct 05 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AJEnglish: Video: 'Horrific aftermath' of Syria clashes http://t.co/5dHtvvDWOct 05 22:23
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schestowitzAs I said last year (IIRC), those who 'hide' are most liklely to have just negative stuff (not of their choice) occupy their presenceOct 05 22:23
schestowitzSee Gates for exampleOct 05 22:23
schestowitzLoads of thingd explosing himOct 05 22:23
_GoblinI'm sure Facebook would like to see a law passed that would make Google guilty of theft everytime a user migrates from Facebook to G+Oct 05 22:23
schestowitzso he pays PR a million dolalrs a day to flood it awayOct 05 22:23
schestowitzbrube-froce attack on truthOct 05 22:24
_Goblinafter all "Google+ is taking our stock and not paying for it"Oct 05 22:24
schestowitzMicrosoft does similar thingsOct 05 22:24
schestowitzUsing PR to bully away those who speak truthOct 05 22:24
schestowitzAndit has enough moles to inject their lies into blog posts,. comments, rticles, etc.Oct 05 22:24
schestowitzSo it's then perceived as "truth"Oct 05 22:24
schestowitzI could give examples of thatOct 05 22:24
_GoblinI think its backfiring though for two reasons.....Oct 05 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] An odd vulnerability report for LibreOffice http://ur1.ca/5b6pmOct 05 22:25
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 302 FoundOct 05 22:25
_Goblin1. people do not so much blindly follow or believe what they are spoon fed...Oct 05 22:25
schestowitzinterestingOct 05 22:25
schestowitzyour hypotheses on ms astroturf are based on years of experience since mswatch daysOct 05 22:25
_Goblin2. advocates of software freedom are given extra incentive by witnessing the underhanded practices.Oct 05 22:25
schestowitzbefore nick came in to just parrot the prOct 05 22:26
schestowitzjoe was at least willing to challenge some of it sometimesOct 05 22:26
schestowitzmary jo foley used to challenge itOct 05 22:26
schestowitzin zdnet she doesn't do itOct 05 22:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: I am reading that darkduck linkOct 05 22:26
schestowitzlike ms jack, she became a parroting machineOct 05 22:26
_Goblinschestowitz: but then ask an average user, a consumer what they think of Microsoft....I don't think you will be able to say the MS pr machine is working.Oct 05 22:26
cubezzzI think this is the post-Microsoft era Oct 05 22:27
_Goblinthe threat now is apathy to patent issues by the mainstream....thats the backdoor MS will fleece them from.Oct 05 22:27
schestowitz_Goblin: I hope you are rightOct 05 22:27
schestowitzBut I think there is also a tinge of hopeful thinking thereOct 05 22:27
schestowitzcause it does fool some people, the porportion yet it to be determinedOct 05 22:27
_Goblinalot don't know....Oct 05 22:27
_GoblinIve had countless conversations where the "licensing" of Android phones was completely unknown to themOct 05 22:28
cubezzzthe OEMs need to give us more choice thoughOct 05 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Full film censored from Western TV, mentioned in today's Assange-Turkey talk: Valley of the Wolves: Palestine http://t.co/b0wGowcGOct 05 22:28
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_Goblinaptly named......Oct 05 22:28
_Goblinlicensing of AndroidOct 05 22:28
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh the main Mageia founder apparnatly she replied and the guy they interviewed recently as well, interestingOct 05 22:28
cubezzzI still think the OEM's are the main bottle-neckOct 05 22:28
_GoblinLice of AndroidOct 05 22:28
sebsebsebschestowitz: anyway that link was just a rant realyOct 05 22:28
schestowitzlolOct 05 22:29
schestowitzliceOct 05 22:29
_Goblinvery much the relation Microsoft has in the phone world.Oct 05 22:29
schestowitzlolOct 05 22:29
_Goblinit is the lice on the scalp of every provider who ships products people want.Oct 05 22:29
schestowitzMicroLiceOct 05 22:29
_Goblinlike itOct 05 22:29
schestowitzyou should type it as a headlineOct 05 22:29
MinceRgnOct 05 22:29
_Goblinmany have said Microsoft have led a parasitic existance for years...Oct 05 22:29
schestowitzthey squeeze small portions of bloodOct 05 22:29
_Goblinand munch on small scraps of skinOct 05 22:30
schestowitzbut in large numbers (of hair/android) they can extract a lot of "value"Oct 05 22:30
cubezzz...plus they don't invent... they takeOct 05 22:30
MinceRm$'s entire existence was parasiticOct 05 22:30
cubezzzeven BASICOct 05 22:30
cubezzzit isOct 05 22:30
schestowitzandroid sells hundreds of millionsOct 05 22:30
MinceRthey started with stealing time on some computers and continued with buying and reselling stolen codeOct 05 22:30
schestowitzMicrosoft maybe sold a millionOct 05 22:30
schestowitzlice compared to headOct 05 22:30
cubezzzhow much does microsoft get for each Android device?Oct 05 22:30
_Goblin$5 I heardOct 05 22:31
_GoblinI would expect more like $10...Oct 05 22:31
schestowitzi think it's beyond a speculation nowOct 05 22:31
schestowitzthere are other speculative thingsOct 05 22:31
schestowitzbut I can believe $5Oct 05 22:31
cubezzzthat means I'll probably never get androidOct 05 22:31
schestowitzMicrosoft sent in some trolls to get some moreOct 05 22:31
schestowitzone army of lice calls the leechesOct 05 22:32
schestowitzthey all shout for "blood"Oct 05 22:32
_Goblincubezzz: thats what MS hopes.....ever thought of WP7 said the MS salespersonOct 05 22:32
schestowitzandroids have no blood thoughOct 05 22:32
schestowitz[I think]Oct 05 22:32
cubezzz_Goblin, of course I'll never get WP7Oct 05 22:32
cubezzzI don't even own a cell phoneOct 05 22:32
_Goblin:)Oct 05 22:32
schestowitzGASPOct 05 22:32
_Goblinprobably not a bad way to liveOct 05 22:32
schestowitzcubezzz: you don't exist!!!!!Oct 05 22:33
cubezzzI own amiga 500 :-POct 05 22:33
schestowitzfunny how people say that apologetically sometimesOct 05 22:33
_Goblinso your an iphone man? cubezzz ;)Oct 05 22:33
schestowitz"I'm not attached to an antenna, sorry"Oct 05 22:33
cubezzzI own a zaurusOct 05 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Sorry !amarok, you're just too heavy and overengineered... been a good ride, but - well, testing #clementineOct 05 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Firefox Advises Users To Disable McAfee Plugin - Slashdot - http://goo.gl/MlWMTOct 05 22:33
schestowitz[not yet anyway]Oct 05 22:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox Advises Users To Disable McAfee Plugin - Slashdot .::. Size~: 133.85 KBOct 05 22:33
schestowitzcubezzz: I use a Palm PDAOct 05 22:33
cubezzzand tivo is no good, bad idea ... I can't believe I ever considered itOct 05 22:33
schestowitzEven at the gym, that's where I write most of techrightsOct 05 22:33
schestowitzon a proprietary OS (Palm OS)Oct 05 22:33
_Goblinif Microsoft could get away with it, they would license two cups on a piece of string as a smartphone.....Oct 05 22:34
cubezzzthere must be a true FOSS hand-held thingieOct 05 22:34
schestowitzshow meOct 05 22:34
schestowitzbut anyway, needs to have full sized QWERTY kbOct 05 22:34
cubezzzthen get a panasonic toughbook, and forget about hand-heldsOct 05 22:35
schestowitzwhen I type keyboard I slide my fingers and often I wonder if others do that tooOct 05 22:35
cubezzzbooo to hand-heldsOct 05 22:35
schestowitzwhen typing QWERTY keyboardOct 05 22:35
schestowitzone hand on shiftOct 05 22:35
schestowitzWYSIWYG is hard to type quicklyOct 05 22:35
schestowitzWRTYU is easyOct 05 22:35
schestowitzQRTYOct 05 22:36
schestowitzWERTYOct 05 22:36
schestowitzmehOct 05 22:36
cubezzzqwertyOct 05 22:36
schestowitzqwertyOct 05 22:36
schestowitzbut press shift toOct 05 22:36
schestowitz*tooOct 05 22:36
cubezzzI'm on a full sized keyboard :)Oct 05 22:36
schestowitzQWERTY?Oct 05 22:36
schestowitzor DVORAK?Oct 05 22:36
cubezzzqwertyOct 05 22:36
schestowitzqwertyOct 05 22:36
cubezzzI said that :)Oct 05 22:37
schestowitzit's fun to typeOct 05 22:37
schestowitzsliding towards the ENTR keyOct 05 22:37
cubezzzI'm a traditionalist for some thingsOct 05 22:37
schestowitzYou could open a computer memorabilia storeOct 05 22:40
schestowitzif there is a market for itOct 05 22:40
schestowitzpeople would seek you for knowledge of what they are looking forOct 05 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[noyesk/@noyesk] As LibreOffice Turns One, a Peek Ahead at What's to Come http://ur1.ca/5b6thOct 05 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: As LibreOffice Turns One, a Peek Ahead at What's to Come | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 73.96 KBOct 05 22:40
cubezzzthere's the folks on #classiccmpOct 05 22:40
cubezzzaside from that I don't see a lot of interest in old computersOct 05 22:40
cubezzzsome are into PDP restorationOct 05 22:41
schestowitzunless they're old macs maybe?Oct 05 22:41
cubezzzwell very old... yes there is interestOct 05 22:41
schestowitzI think these are most sought after... like some lost scrolls of the cultOct 05 22:41
cubezzzlike micro-PDPOct 05 22:41
cubezzzCP/M era stuffOct 05 22:41
cubezzzanything DECOct 05 22:42
cubezzzold stuff becomes interesting since it's so different from modernOct 05 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There's A #Linux 3.1-rc9 Kernel Release http://ur1.ca/5b6v1Oct 05 22:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] There's A Linux 3.1-rc9 Kernel Release .::. Size~: 17.74 KBOct 05 22:43
cubezzzschestowitz, check out the cool computer room:Oct 05 22:45
cubezzzhttp://maxhost.org/other/computer/computer-room-1.jpgOct 05 22:45
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schestowitzThis must be you in your laundry roomOct 05 22:53
sebsebseb_Goblin: schestowitz Someone from Australlia who listended to that audiocast episode with me in it, said that he loved the intro song.Oct 05 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cardinal Quest free for 24 hours! http://ur1.ca/5b6y2 #linux #gamesOct 05 22:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cardinal Quest free for 24 hours! | Gaming On Linux .::. Size~: 27.31 KBOct 05 22:55
_Goblinsebsebseb: send him over to Tom Smiths site.......Oct 05 22:55
sebsebseb_Goblin: what's the link?Oct 05 22:56
schestowitzMarti made a theme song for usOct 05 22:56
sebsebsebschestowitz: I knowOct 05 22:56
sebsebsebschestowitz: it was in one of the episodes, but you never used itOct 05 22:56
sebsebsebanyway I was thinkingOct 05 22:57
sebsebsebI have an ideaOct 05 22:57
sebsebseband I'll say it now, whilst on this subjectOct 05 22:57
schestowitzI think _Goblin was not a major fanOct 05 22:57
sebsebsebtry this for an eposide I think or a few see what people think?Oct 05 22:57
schestowitzfor this being an opening trackOct 05 22:57
sebsebsebhave the nromal oneOct 05 22:57
sebsebseband then do the other one after it as wellOct 05 22:57
sebsebsebthen start chatting :DOct 05 22:57
_Goblinschestowitz: I wanted a breaker track for between sections....the track was very good, but far too long.Oct 05 22:57
_Goblinhowever....Oct 05 22:57
schestowitzwe have song to break sections apartOct 05 22:58
schestowitzdoing more than that requires editingOct 05 22:58
schestowitzwhich is hard unless there is silence to mark itOct 05 22:58
_GoblinMarti's latest track is great......sort of a retro amiga demoscene type affair with samples from 2001 a space Odyssey Oct 05 22:58
cubezzzthe IBM 7094 had 32K 36-bit word memoryOct 05 22:58
cubezzzhttp://maxhost.org/other/computer/computer-room-3.jpgOct 05 22:59
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schestowitzyou're oozing nostalgiaOct 05 23:02
schestowitzcubezzz: looks goodOct 05 23:02
schestowitz(the girl)Oct 05 23:02
cubezzzand chinese workers made the magnetic core Oct 05 23:03
cubezzzeven in that eraOct 05 23:03
schestowitzthe guy in the tie is learningOct 05 23:03
schestowitzhe watches her programOct 05 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Computer-Aided Engineering in Linux http://ur1.ca/5b71b #linux #gnu #cad #engineeringOct 05 23:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Computer-Aided Engineering in Linux  | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 51.54 KBOct 05 23:03
schestowitzthe buttons are funnyOct 05 23:03
schestowitzit looks like old Star TrekOct 05 23:04
schestowitzand she's the DJOct 05 23:04
cubezzzit is 60's just like original star trekOct 05 23:04
schestowitzWith those tapes rolling in synchronicityOct 05 23:04
schestowitzeach tape plays one channelOct 05 23:04
schestowitzdrums on the rightOct 05 23:04
schestowitzvocals on the lftOct 05 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.2 Beta is out now http://ur1.ca/5b71r #redhat #linux #gnuOct 05 23:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.2 Beta is out now | ZDNet .::. Size~: 99.47 KBOct 05 23:05
schestowitzthe buttons she has are volume for each emplifierOct 05 23:05
cubezzzCobol and Fortran on that oneOct 05 23:05
schestowitzlike a DJ she moves them up and downOct 05 23:05
cubezzzwith the IBSYS operating systemOct 05 23:05
schestowitzThey're doing rehearsalsOct 05 23:05
schestowitzCobol and Fortran - good band?Oct 05 23:06
cubezzzyeahOct 05 23:06
cubezzzCobol and the Fortrans :)Oct 05 23:06
schestowitzimperative bandOct 05 23:06
schestowitzmostly played in a loopOct 05 23:06
cubezzzkind of boring with no video terminalsOct 05 23:06
schestowitzActually, I'd love to see this photo presented to some uneducated peopleOct 05 23:07
schestowitzAnd see what they think the picture is /of/Oct 05 23:07
schestowitzI reckon some actually would think it's a music sceneOct 05 23:07
cubezzzI think most would figure it's a computer :)Oct 05 23:08
cubezzzbut who knows...Oct 05 23:08
cubezzzyou could be rightOct 05 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Over on Diaspora: I love this..... http://ur1.ca/5b72eOct 05 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A camera in every car - pointed at the occupants: ur1.ca/5b72i #LandOfTheFreeOct 05 23:08
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cubezzzit does say IBM on there after allOct 05 23:08
cubezzzI'm not 100% sure it's 7094... could be 7090Oct 05 23:09
schestowitzsome people can't tell apart ibm from korgOct 05 23:10
schestowitzhttp://www.korg.com/Oct 05 23:11
cubezzzNASA used 7090'sOct 05 23:11
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cubezzzand 7094's Oct 05 23:11
cubezzzused during the Apollo 11 moon landingOct 05 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Mint 11: The "Un-Unity" Ubuntu desktop Linux http://ur1.ca/5b73k #gnu #linux #mint #desktopOct 05 23:15
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Guest95270I just was targetted by a special kind of "denial of service attack".Oct 05 23:16
Guest95270helloOct 05 23:17
schestowitzhiOct 05 23:17
*Guest95270 is now known as balzacOct 05 23:17
balzacschestowitz: there are hackers on my caseOct 05 23:18
schestowitzahaOct 05 23:18
schestowitzi'm a hackerOct 05 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Bine Ati Revenit, Majestate Si Continuitate...! http://ur1.ca/5b74e #romania #monarchy #royalOct 05 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Rap News #7 - Occupy Wall Street http://t.co/BjPr7krJOct 05 23:18
schestowitznot a crackerOct 05 23:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bine Ati Revenit, Majestate Si Continuitate...! .::. Size~: 94.05 KBOct 05 23:18
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balzacIn addition to the social media "sleep walkers"Oct 05 23:18
cubezzzhold on... hacker? :)Oct 05 23:18
schestowitz:-)Oct 05 23:18
schestowitz!google wp-hackers schestowitzOct 05 23:19
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Re: [wp-hackers] Referrer Spam [s] - schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Selected_Mail/2005/September_October_2005/msg00053.htmlOct 05 23:19
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Re: WordPress Openness (was Re: [wp-hackers] UI ... - schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Selected_Mail/2005/May_June_2005/msg00028.htmlOct 05 23:19
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - RE: [wp-hackers] TinyMCE issues - schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Selected_Mail/2006/March_August_2006/msg00116.htmlOct 05 23:19
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - [wp-hackers] WordPress Architecture | http://lists.automattic.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2007-February/010762.htmlOct 05 23:19
balzacIt was brutal. First a long slow build up of slow internet service, Twitter rejecting my tweets, and finally a crescendo of complete disconnection from the internet, followed by a shutdown of my computer. Oct 05 23:19
cubezzzwe better get a snapshot of the screen then :-POct 05 23:19
balzacI nearly smashed my computer.Oct 05 23:19
cubezzzbefore the info scrolls off Oct 05 23:20
balzacMeanwhile, social media "sleep walkers" are using people as props in a propaganda campaignOct 05 23:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin  I used to really like SJVN's articles, not so sure now at times, take this one for example: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/mint-11-the-un-unity-ubuntu-desktop-linux/8956Oct 05 23:20
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sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin sometimes he's like Ubuntu is great, then he's like Mint is great,  and stuff like that you knowOct 05 23:20
schestowitzyeaOct 05 23:21
cubezzza 2nd ip address is always usefulOct 05 23:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: _Goblin  and he used to say how great OpenSuse was as wellOct 05 23:21
balzacI'm being hated on because I only walked the length of a block in the "solidarity march"Oct 05 23:21
balzacFeminists and progressives are absolutely ruthlessOct 05 23:22
sebsebsebschestowitz: why doesn't he write about less known distros?Oct 05 23:22
sebsebsebMageia :DOct 05 23:22
sebsebsebfor exampleOct 05 23:22
sebsebsebhe seems to just be cattering a lot now to the like main streame Linux user, so Ubuntu and Mint and suchOct 05 23:22
_Goblinsebsebseb: I think its one of those things now where someones opinion on Unity will only be considered if the person reading has tried it themselves....theres things I would have liked to see Unity be but its impossible for Canonical to be expected to cater for everything for everybody....Microsoft tried to do that and people ended up with Windows.Oct 05 23:23
balzacRuthlessness is not as bad as the malicious deceptionOct 05 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Copepod up close http://identi.ca/url/53997869 !scienceOct 05 23:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Copepod up close  – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 24.03 KBOct 05 23:23
sebsebseb_Goblin: Mac OS X try to target everyone as wellOct 05 23:23
sebsebsebwell everyone who is willing to buy their stuff :DOct 05 23:24
sebsebsebspend alll that money you  knowOct 05 23:24
balzacI really can't say it's McDonalds, since a hacker could disable their service from outside.Oct 05 23:24
balzacEven twitter could have some kind of man-in-the-middle attack used to make their service fail me. Oct 05 23:24
schestowitz[23:22] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: why doesn't he write about less known distros?Oct 05 23:24
schestowitzless trafficOct 05 23:25
schestowitzit's zdnetOct 05 23:25
schestowitzthy pay for ads, not newsOct 05 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] BoA says #Anonymous hasn't owned it, lies out its ass http://identi.ca/url/53997879Oct 05 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] India launches Aakash tablet computer priced at $35, runs !Linux http://identi.ca/url/53993273Oct 05 23:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Update: BofA site outages called 'unprecedented' - Computerworld .::. Size~: 130.52 KBOct 05 23:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - India launches Aakash tablet computer priced at $35 .::. Size~: 68.63 KBOct 05 23:25
sebsebsebschestowitz: he used to write for computerworld though, and things were still like thisOct 05 23:25
_Goblinsebsebseb: but because they control the hardware too to a greater extent you can argue that whilst wrong, it produces a vastly superior product to Microsoft.Oct 05 23:25
balzacAnd there's one prominent hacker I can think of who, in retrospect was probably mislead and he's trying to yank me around, perhaps dispatching some of his alcolytes to mess with me. Oct 05 23:26
balzacHe too thought I was a fag, having been misled. Oct 05 23:26
balzacI wondered if he was a fag, probably because he had been told I was a fag.Oct 05 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Citi is following BoA in stealing from customers http://identi.ca/url/53997894Oct 05 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Severe Arctic Ozone Loss http://identi.ca/url/53966334 !scienceOct 05 23:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Et tu, Citi? Bank Raises Balance Requirements and Fees | Moneyland | TIME.com .::. Size~: 71.69 KBOct 05 23:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Arctic ozone loss at record level .::. Size~: 67.65 KBOct 05 23:27
schestowitzbalzac: When I was alseepy I saw you mentioned nominating techrights for FSF awardsOct 05 23:28
schestowitzbalzac: do you still rock and shake daily kos?Oct 05 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Telecomix Releases 54GB of #Syrian Censorship Logs http://identi.ca/url/53997901 !eff !wlOct 05 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Comic about upcoming referendum on muni broadband in Longmont, CO http://identi.ca/url/53997903Oct 05 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Could Electron Counts Detect Major Earthquakes? http://identi.ca/url/53997906 !scienceOct 05 23:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Telecomix Releases 54GB of Syrian Censorship Logs - Slashdot .::. Size~: 89.49 KBOct 05 23:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Comic about upcoming referendum on muni broadband in Longmont, CO – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 24.01 KBOct 05 23:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Did the atmosphere signal March Japan earthquake before it happened? - Capital Weather Gang - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 111.22 KBOct 05 23:28
schestowitzKucinich is now allowed, you should know that. He can't raise the funding cause he's not some cheap salesman like people who win election for being phony 'representatives'Oct 05 23:29
schestowitzBusiness oligarchs groom their croniesOct 05 23:29
schestowitzNader and Kuciinich only get defamed by themOct 05 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Governor Rick, !Science Hick http://identi.ca/url/53997908Oct 05 23:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TOM THE DANCING BUG: “Governor Rick, Science Hick,” starring Rick Perry!!! – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 16.67 KBOct 05 23:30
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balzacanyway, I didn't mean to drag RMS into thisOct 05 23:36
balzacSomeone else dragged him into it. Oct 05 23:37
balzacHe must have run a background check and got misinformation from some feminist cunt woman.Oct 05 23:37
schestowitzRMS is being defamed all the timeOct 05 23:38
schestowitzToday I saw a nasty troll writing ,a lengthy post comprring RMS to someone who likes incest with the daughterOct 05 23:38
schestowitzBut I'd rathr not feed this defamationOct 05 23:38
schestowitzSo don't askOct 05 23:38
schestowitzBut the same prick who did this also created an anti-techrigts siteOct 05 23:38
schestowitzNot the first site dedicated to attacking techrights, evenn with my name at the top bannerOct 05 23:39
schestowitzAnyway, don't use the word "cunt" hereOct 05 23:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Interactive map of Occupy Wall Street protests http://identi.ca/url/53997965Oct 05 23:40
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balzacSoon after our correspondence had begun.Oct 05 23:41
balzacI have an idea of which feminist cunt too.Oct 05 23:41
balzacFurthermore, I have the opinion that there isn't one woman I can trust. Oct 05 23:41
balzacI already understand I was born to a feminist.Oct 05 23:41
balzacI don't trust her anymore.Oct 05 23:41
balzacAll I can say is that I encourage my father to smack her once. It's well deserved after all these years.Oct 05 23:41
balzacAlso, the other woman I have in mind, it would be the duty of her ex-husband to smack her insolent face. Oct 05 23:42
schestowitzWhat does that have to do with techrights?Oct 05 23:43
_Goblinschestowitz: You have to admit though Roy, its very satisfying to read on "that group" the attempts....to think someone would take the time to write to a group only a few people read about a person or site....it must make them very angry....I chuckle at the thought of someone boiling with anger behind a computer screen.... Oct 05 23:43
schestowitz2 years ago you used the channel to rave about sripper girls you saw at a clubOct 05 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Big Brother Calls 'Shotgun' In Illinois http://identi.ca/url/53997976Oct 05 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bletchley Park gets a £4.6m grant, financed by government pro-innumeracy programme http://identi.ca/url/53997984 !scienceOct 05 23:43
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_Goblin?Oct 05 23:43
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schestowitz_Goblin: I can find his photosOct 05 23:44
_Goblinwhose?Oct 05 23:44
schestowitzthat famous heavy gun sitting nakes in front of the PCOct 05 23:44
schestowitzthe classicOct 05 23:44
_Goblinah....Oct 05 23:44
balzacAll I can say is, I'll sooner die than get rolled by a bunch of sanctimonious feminist cunts who see only what they want to see. Oct 05 23:44
_GoblinI think Ive missed something....Oct 05 23:44
balzacBut only after I reveal exactly what they're all about. Oct 05 23:44
schestowitz"hot under the dollar" --a book by SteveOct 05 23:44
_GoblinlolOct 05 23:44
_Goblinyep....Oct 05 23:45
schestowitz"my war against Linux" (bylineOct 05 23:45
_Goblinon a serious note though I wonder if Ballmer will write a bookOct 05 23:45
schestowitzMein Micro-softOct 05 23:45
_GoblinlolOct 05 23:45
_Goblinlice Roy Lice....Oct 05 23:45
_GoblinMein MicroliceOct 05 23:45
schestowitzlolOct 05 23:45
schestowitzthen it loses meaningOct 05 23:45
_Goblinyou do know though that the comment will be used against us.Oct 05 23:45
schestowitztoo far from being possible to decipherOct 05 23:46
schestowitzunder he collar too is a bit crypticOct 05 23:46
schestowitz_Goblin: oh noes. They'll link to irc. Duck!!Oct 05 23:46
schestowitzI remember some trolls getting upset at other trolls because they kept obsessed with IRCOct 05 23:46
schestowitzAnd said it was actually helping the IRC channelOct 05 23:47
schestowitzit's funny cause it's trueOct 05 23:47
_GoblinIts most entertaining when two trolls argue....Oct 05 23:47
_Goblinyou can't pay for that type of entertainmentOct 05 23:47
schestowitzthe mentallyh morbid ones vs the more reasonabkle ones who still trolls by attacking people in a group which they do not agree with in principleOct 05 23:47
_Goblinand I say troll as a compliment....if they are not trolling it means that in real life they are actually like that, that in my view is far worse.Oct 05 23:48
schestowitzconfronttational and running away to the InternetOct 05 23:49
schestowitzWhere they are harder to avoid bcause cola is not moderatedOct 05 23:49
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schestowitzso they can falsely accuse people of psedophilia for exampleOct 05 23:49
schestowitzThey did that to me tooOct 05 23:49
schestowitzUtter libelOct 05 23:49
schestowitzcalling me child molester and then linking to some fake URL that wouldn't workOct 05 23:50
schestowitzAll just to kill the messenger with defamatory wordsOct 05 23:50
_GoblinI think though its very transparent to everyone.....Oct 05 23:50
schestowitzI'm still not sure what's going on with AssangeOct 05 23:50
schestowitzseems like a setup thereOct 05 23:50
_Goblinhave you seen the wikipedia news?Oct 05 23:50
_Goblin(italy related)Oct 05 23:50
schestowitzItaly yesOct 05 23:50
schestowitzTheir crazy govt wants to censor the webOct 05 23:51
schestowitzthe populaion got ahead of the mafiaOct 05 23:51
schestowitzSo now it needs to be silencesOct 05 23:51
schestowitz*cedOct 05 23:51
schestowitzbefore a constructive revolution comes aboutOct 05 23:51
schestowitzthrowing silvio out for good measuresOct 05 23:51
schestowitzsending him back to his 15 year old belly dancing girldfriend from MoroccoOct 05 23:52
schestowitzRocco defended himOct 05 23:52
schestowitzRocco for MorocooOct 05 23:52
schestowitz!google rocco defends silvioOct 05 23:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Rocco Siffredi defends Silvio Berlusconi | http://www.rjkoehler.com/2011/01/24/rocco-siffredi-defends-silvio-berlusconi/Oct 05 23:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Italian porn star Rocco Siffredi defends embattled Italian prime ... | http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-01-23/news/27096466_1_silvio-berlusconi-italian-prosecutors-underage-womenOct 05 23:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi still having bunga-bunga ... | http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-06-06/news/29648575_1_bunga-bunga-parties-wiretaps-italian-prime-ministerOct 05 23:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Silvio Berlusconi defended by Italian porn star | World news | The ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/22/silvio-berlusconi-porn-star-rocco-siffrediOct 05 23:52
schestowitzSee?Oct 05 23:52
schestowitzWhen you're PMOct 05 23:52
schestowitzand you need to be defended by the mafiaOct 05 23:52
schestowitzAnd buy them with rubelsOct 05 23:52
schestowitzAnd then get defence from pr0n peopleOct 05 23:52
schestowitzWhat does that say about your reign?Oct 05 23:53
_GoblinI say ban ban ban....Oct 05 23:54
_Goblinban everything....Oct 05 23:54
_Goblinban banningOct 05 23:54
schestowitzbenOct 05 23:54
schestowitznice nameOct 05 23:54
_Goblinyep him tooOct 05 23:54
schestowitzben banOct 05 23:54
schestowitzthe UK does that tooOct 05 23:54
schestowitzWhat's it called here?Oct 05 23:54
schestowitzsomethijng "Watch"Oct 05 23:54
schestowitzthe one that removed killer virginOct 05 23:55
schestowitzor virgin killerOct 05 23:55
schestowitzit's getting worse over timeOct 05 23:55
schestowitzbut..Oct 05 23:55
_Goblinnot too clear though....Oct 05 23:55
schestowitzI am also concerned about disinfo sitesOct 05 23:55
_Goblinvirgin killer....Oct 05 23:55
schestowitzlike those about moon landing being a hoaxOct 05 23:55
_Goblina killer of virgins...(whatout trolls)Oct 05 23:55
schestowitzand some 9/11 theoriesOct 05 23:55
_Goblinor a killer who is a virginOct 05 23:56
schestowitzThe Internet made wishful thinking a possible parallel realityOct 05 23:56
schestowitz[23:55] <_Goblin> a killer of virgins...(whatout trolls)Oct 05 23:56
schestowitzCOLA trolls are not virginsOct 05 23:56
schestowitzThey group in a room once a yearOct 05 23:56
schestowitzAnd unitedOct 05 23:56
_Goblinwould they know what to do?Oct 05 23:56
schestowitzNoOct 05 23:56
_Goblinif its not typing naughty text, I think they will be stuck...Oct 05 23:57
schestowitzI'd rather not think about what you get if putting all those creatures in one roomOct 05 23:57
_Goblinmaybe they pass notes to each other in a darkened room...Oct 05 23:57
schestowitzI bet they'll kill one another and then turn necrophilesOct 05 23:57
schestowitzthat's what their behaviour in COLA is likeOct 05 23:57
_Goblinyou'll probably regret that comment!!!!!Oct 05 23:57
schestowitzSome of them..Oct 05 23:57
schestowitzThere are two classes of trolls there (more really)Oct 05 23:58
_GoblinI love to see what the COLA trolls can do with these comments...Oct 05 23:58
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schestowitzOne simple division is the poite troll or those what make you wonder if Microsoft hires trolls who work from prisonOct 05 23:58
schestowitzLuckily:Oct 05 23:58
schestowitzIn a way...Oct 05 23:58
schestowitzthe polite ones vanishedOct 05 23:58
schestowitzmost of them didOct 05 23:58
schestowitzSo you're left with trolls that repel the readersOct 05 23:58
schestowitzBut...Oct 05 23:58
schestowitzThey repel peoiple from themselvesOct 05 23:59
schestowitzbut also potentially from the groupOct 05 23:59
_Goblinwell politeness tends to go out of the window (no pun intended) when they realize that a reasoned argument is beyond them.Oct 05 23:59
schestowitzHowever, nobody would take them seriouslyOct 05 23:59
_Goblinand lets be fair..... how can you defend Microsoft and its products....?Oct 05 23:59
schestowitz_Goblin: yes,t hat's why they stoppedOct 05 23:59
schestowitzI think some felt defeatedOct 05 23:59
schestowitzthey bought a phoneOct 05 23:59
schestowitzand it had androidOct 05 23:59

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